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Wow you made a reasonable post holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 05:26 AM
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You have pretty much zero understanding of gender dynamics which is why you think men being skeptical of women that are promiscuous is unfair and sexist. You literally have no clue. It's not only the black community but it's the worst in the black community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzVKJLKosFM Notice how many of the women selected both drug dealers and scammers before 9-5's? Women select for losers then complain about it to men that had to be ignored while laboring for a future. It's wom…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 10:23 PM
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I think you should quarantine yourself in Trollxchromosomes or gendercritical or something and stay there.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 05:45 PM
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LOL okay
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 05:36 PM
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Sexism detected. It's not sexism. Women in general favor men that they believe will be successful with women because it's difficult for men to be successful with women. A man that's successful with women must have earned it while the same isn't true with a woman that's had a lot of male partners. Any woman can do that even undesirable women. Men and women aren't the same. They should have equal rights and opportunity under the law but they are not the same. A large part of what's causing the des…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 05:32 PM
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Women are expected to not be extremely promiscuous, like having had 30 sexual partners by the age of 30 and not be obese. Those are the only 2 major expectations. And notice that you couldnt refute any of the point that I have mentioned about the risks women have to think about while being a man. Don't interact with men, then. Date women. It's not hard. As far as DV goes women initiate more DV cases but violent women get treated less seriously than violent men do. I actually don't care about the…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 05:19 PM
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I think his point about DV was that it's very rare and films like the color purple allowed women to latch on to this idea that it's pervasive. Bm who are creating a high numbers of single mothers in every community at this time. That's not really the case. Most women ignore men who are gentle, kind providers until their 30's when their value to men is at its lowest. The reason there are so many single moms is most women are giving the same small percentage of men attention and getting pregnant b…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 05:06 PM
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It is the case, kevin samuels isnt the first of his type on youtube. Theres a whole industry on critizing black women, exploiting us and copying us ( music industry, Steve harvey, women of other races copying us, etc) I'm not getting constantly rejected. I just know KS is right because I've had a ton of female friends and plenty of relationships. Women don't have to be anything for a man to sleep with them just not extremely obese. The bar for women is pretty much non-existent. So women develop …
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 04:58 PM
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A lot of average/below average women are like that though. I mean it's probably most women actually. Women hold a lot more value over men when they are young. All they have to do is not be proactively repulsive and they can get free male sexual attention. Most women confuse this for thinking they can get a real relationship or a husband that is on the same playing field as the most desirable man they were with. Because women never really have to initiate until their late thirties and most of the…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 04:51 PM
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A lot of average/below average women are like that though. I mean it's probably most women actually. Women hold a lot more value over men when they are young. All they have to do is not be proactively repulsive and they can get free male sexual attention. Most women confuse this for thinking they can get a real relationship or a husband that is on the same playing field as the most desirable man they were with. Because women never really have to initiate until their late thirties and most of the…
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 04:04 PM
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I came to this conclusion a while ago, too. Most women would rightfully not let someone speak to them the way KS does regardless of whether or not he's right.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 04:01 PM
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Now, he says not a single mom though, his OWN kids from a woman that is pure. Based like a turkey.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 07:01 AM
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It's not really about money. It's about income, your social network and the value you provide to other people. If all you have is money but your social network is entirely hoodboogers and gang bangers then you're just a loser with money.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 07:00 AM
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This isn't really the case. A lot of women that are 5's aren't interested in men that are 5's because they mistake the fact that an 8 or 9 will sleep with them once every fortnight for him being interested in dating/marriage when in reality men have sex with less desired women for the sake of abundance/fun.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 06:58 AM
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Still going strong. His message resonates with a lot of people.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 06:57 AM
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Good advice but KS is addressing a reality that is very pervasive.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 06:55 AM
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Is there anything women have to do to work on themselves?
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 06:22 AM
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If you think her “giving it up” on the first date makes her easy, apply it yourself too. That's silly. The entire reason there is no stigma on men for doing it is women prefer men that do it. Do you think men give eachother medals for having sex or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:48 PM
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And the lie detector test determined...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:46 PM
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Hypergamy is bad in a society where men and women are equals legally and women believe that having sex with men they desire might lead to a relationship. Other than that it's not actually bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 12:29 AM
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The media suppresses stories of blacks committing crime against white women? Exactly how much crack are you on rn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:50 AM
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Guess that brings her down to a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 01:39 AM
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he smacked her hard, and she died rofl oh my god. imagine having that kind of power i would end so many people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:21 PM
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Debatable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:20 PM
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He's right the woman is a solid 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:19 PM
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Fuck...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:18 PM
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Ah, so you're both a lesbian and catastrophically retarded. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:48 PM
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initiated solely for the other person’s benefit? This is a lot of the problem with modern feminism. You have women that are clearly autistic lesbians trying to convince heterosexual women that any invitation to sex is inherently unwanted and a threat. Like, are you actually catastrophically fucking retarded in real life? Maybe. Maybe not. But you're definitely a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:19 PM
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why don't you just stop posting forever
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 04:16 PM
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Every DnD group I knew of had at least 1 giga chad or giga tyrone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 03:32 PM
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I'm over 30 Gross don't say shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:11 PM
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You'll also say the healthy meal you avoided because it didn't look as good was probably gross and poisoned Haha. Women always say that men that are nice and kind were never really nice just to rationalize their desire for eating rat poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:37 PM
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To complete your comparison, women will eat a meal with rat poisoning if it looks tasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:35 PM
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And the end of capitalism is fascism. So to say Capitalism isn’t allowing monopolies to drive people into poverty. Is quite wrong. Capitalism would annihilate and enslave the average man on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 01:07 PM
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Men typically have a floor for what kind of women they'll marry and that floor is always far beneath what they themselves are. For women that floor is above what they are. So a man marrying a woman that makes as much as him is making a mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:55 PM
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I don't even know if 10 partners is that high. But I'm quite certain women that are currently 25-35 currently in the west easily break 20 by the time they're in their early 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:26 PM
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Are you okay? I'm trying to explain that women that are older tend to do things that cause them to lose value like gain weight, get tattoos, become masculine to climb a corporate ladder, or be promiscuous. That's why younger women are desired. Because society gives them inherent value while men have to earn their value. Women don't have to earn their value. So it's not really a symmetrical comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:18 PM
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😂😂😂 Are you emotionally invested in this conversation or something? Women are given inherent value by society and men have to earn theirs. It's a byproduct of hypergamy. That's why older women are less desired and younger women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:16 PM
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Don't even know what you're saying or trying to say. I also don't know why we're talking about virgins. Most men aren't looking for virgins exclusively, just not women who are constantly having sex outside of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:59 PM
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They know what men want I don't think they do. Most modern women bring everything to a relationship that they would want a man to bring then demand a man that brings more than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:55 PM
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30 year old with an n count of 5 Some people think 5 is high, but I think it's pretty low. Most women of my generation are probably averaging 30-40 by that age, though. I haven't spoken to a woman over 30 in such a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:52 PM
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But you're acting as if men want younger women because younger women are improving the lives of men so much. The reality is that women from 25-35 tend to have destroyed whatever value that a woman can add to a man's life, leaving younger women as better choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:47 PM
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The thing is slim virgins aren't so incredibly valuable, but a lot of the ways women change over a decade lower her value or increase her value in ways that are meaningless to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:29 PM
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Those are extremely low standards for women. Just be fit, not super promiscuous, feminine. How are those high standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:28 PM
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just because a handful of men reap the rewards. Right, it's still a patriarchy. Women prop it up by their nature with hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:53 AM
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Patriarchy ensured that even men with suboptimal genes could continue to breed Untrue. Patriarchy is a byproduct of hypergamy. It serves no real benefit for most men. What ensured everyone 'bred' was smaller scale social groups and communities, definitely not patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:45 AM
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People are making insane money with a joke coin of a dog for cry out loud. The idea that random common people are making money trying to find alternative currencies screams 'impending collapse' to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:42 AM
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I've watched his show a bunch of times. He specifically tells women that 100k isn't enough to raise a family and have a stay at home mother in most parts of the U.S. So you're totally wrong on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:39 AM
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Meanwhile women don't actually have to be anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 04:20 PM
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Holy shit that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:55 AM
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Obama right now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 10:48 PM
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hey man nice onesie
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:02 PM
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u/Spacechichen_1990 is calling up Obama right now to drone you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:09 AM
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I got banned from Askmen and added to a no fly list for saying this. Also Obama is drone striking my house right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:47 AM
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Yeah, I mean a lot of women are terrible people. For all I know it could be all of them. :O
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:45 PM
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Are they all fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:53 AM
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I’m a woman and I’m reluctant to get into relationships unless the man is exceptional. You don't fucking say? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:40 AM
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So they facilitate sex to try and stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 04:39 AM
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Most women stop maturing around the age of 15 and never start again. It's not just pretty women with shitty attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:27 AM
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Do these shows cast women who do these as common behavior among women or extreme aberrations?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:10 AM
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Found the guys boofing crack
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 01:48 AM
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Why is it that everything you say paints it as if the women have 0 accountability and 0 authority but the man that these women are pursuing has 100% accountability and responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:07 PM
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The bar for women is at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:27 PM
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Probably tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 04:25 PM
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Wow. So as a woman you think men not dating until their mid 30's is so common you need to consciously think about avoiding them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:11 AM
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Imagine being this capable of lying. Scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:30 PM
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:>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:28 PM
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Can I get an upvote though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:25 PM
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Oh really? Incels are such a common problem you have to start proactively avoiding them now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:11 PM
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So it's really women with the madonna whore problem, not men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 09:01 PM
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This is why so many single mothers continues having struggles finding even half decent men as even something as simple as co parents Is that why? Or is it because a single mom does nothing that a childless woman can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:48 PM
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Do they? Get the fuck-- Come on. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:42 PM
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Imagine thinking ugly women have good personalities and contribute more than attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:40 PM
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Interesting points. I wonder if those NY doormen would have been fired if they were doorwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:31 PM
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He has to be a player but faithful to her and have 'chemistry' rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 08:26 PM
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What's wrong gaming? Huh? You a fuckin nerd or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:11 AM
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Right. His channel blew up when he criticized a below average looking woman that thinks because she owns a small business she can get a man that will financially support her lifestyle. A very large portion of women of all races tend to think their pool of available men is larger than it is because a lot of men would sleep with them. It's way worse in women that are also high earners because they tend to think they can get a guy that earns even more, while being sexually attractive while having c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:05 PM
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Well yeah if you have 200k in debt and you make 30k a year guess what happens to a guy that marries you? All women have to do is not make a man's life harder. Men have to actually make a woman's life better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 09:42 PM
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And the guy doesn't give them good tips and it seems that he just pushes the ideas that would benefit him/his social group specifically. It's totally fair of me to say that the women in this thread percieve him to be giving those women poor advice as if they have no choice but to demand men that will finance their lifestyles. He constantly tells these women to be realistic and date men closer to their age who haven't taken off yet or who are average earners but these breathtakingly below average…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:15 AM
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Treating a woman who isn’t sexually attracted to you like shit isn’t going to make her want to have sex with you either lol Right, but actually being nice to women and trying to get to know them is the hardest way to date as a man. It's probably the worst by far. It's so bad that if a guy tells a woman he treated another woman well, what will she say? She'll say this, because all women have to do is not be a cunt and they can date. Just be a decent human being This is woman level advice, I.E. sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:17 PM
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Men only know how to pleasure other men. Hahahahahah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 09:05 PM
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Good, most women are garbage and don't deserve orgasms. Fuck em. Actually, don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:51 PM
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There's other ways connect with a woman without sex. Actually, there really, really isn't. Men and women live different kinds of lives because men and women are different. So trying to share a connection deeper than sex with most women is kind of a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:49 PM
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A woman can be the devoted partner and she will be get cheated on. Great. Don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:48 PM
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Sure, but these are often average to below average, over weight women sometimes with kids trying to find men that are rare even for desirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:47 PM
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Right. Other men have to wait. That doesn't invalidate the reality that eventually that woman will pretend to be a virgin when looking for a HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:46 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:45 PM
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Oh, I misread what he wrote. My fault. Actually, it's your fault. Why did you do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:43 PM
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There is no way a couple without children would need $350K/Yr in any city unless you wanted literally the most desirable housing, services, and luxury. Then to assume each kid costs $50K/Yr with a stay at home mom? Ridiculous. Are you effing crazy? In LA? NYC? SF? Austin? Atlanta? One man raising a family and a stay at home wife in 2021? You understand we've been in non-stop insane housing bubbles since way before 2008, right? on less than six figures combined. Sure, combined. Not with one guy r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:42 PM
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You just mentioned a woman that got cheated on. She dated a man that makes less than 100k and got cheated on. She couldn't be desirable enough for low value men to not get cheated on but now she wants a high value man and expects that she won't get cheated on. How does that make any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:37 PM
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I'm not nice guy. Acting like a fuckboy is what guarantees men will have vast options. Actually being polite and friendly to women, trying to get to know them as individuals and allowing yourself to be truly vulnerable around them is probably the worst possible way to get any relationship with any particular woman unless she already thinks you're sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:34 PM
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Just because someone positions themselves as a guru doesn't mean that they should be acknowledged as one. He actually doesn't. He started off giving men advice, then a woman barged onto his show on the wrong day and demanded advice when that wasn't what that particular show was about. He tried to get her to disconnect and asked her if she could book a consulting session so that he could not embarrass her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:30 PM
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He tells women to date men around their age almost every show, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:27 PM
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He probably literally beats women with sticks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:26 PM
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He should push both at younger ages to start a family if they want one for the healthiest babies. He tells women that all the time, but they are the ones that exclude men that are young. Their only option is dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:25 PM
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Kevin Samuels wants more young women to chase men his age. That's why he's telling young women to date older men. He tells women that are looking for men that earn in the top 10% that that is their only option. Most of the women calling in would be uncomfortable dating a man that makes less than 100k so what choice do they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:24 PM
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His show doesn't have 22 year old supermodels He's had quite a few and politely hung up on them because they agreed with what he was saying and it wouldn't be an interesting conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:22 PM
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Depends on where. He always tailors that answer to location and from what I can tell he's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:21 PM
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He is often telling women that in order to support 3 kids and her, the man needs to bring in $400-500K/yr. If you start the conversation with the assumption that a man must bring in that much, of course only older men would qualify. He actually is pretty accurate. He asks the women what city they live in and customizes it according to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:20 PM
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Yes, very very true. Sometimes he yells at the women for no reason in order to get a reaction it's the most ridiculous aspect of his show, but he does it on purpose just like the thing he does where he turns off the mic and lights mid sentence and demands upvotes. And I think the women that call him are a bit weird a lot of the time. Who would do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:18 PM
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which makes your whole point moot. Not really because the majority of women want men that are making a lot of money, not men who have average incomes. no. two different things. For men it's pretty much the same. For women women it has no relationship because women are hypergamous and men will fuck most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:16 PM
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It's like 60%. And I've never met a woman that didn't get extreme pleasure out of sex. I'm pretty sure that's an incredibly big lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:12 PM
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It's entirely possible she wasn't putting out enough or being supportive enough. Don't know what to tell you. I wouldn't advise a woman to stay with a guy that cheated if they don't have kids, but if a guy like that cheated on her why would a guy making more with more options stay exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:11 PM
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No, it's not. If they want to get with him they have to give him sexual attention or he's going to lose interest fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:08 PM
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Men don't really care. The girl that's hotter probably already has a boyfriend anyway. Kelly Stamps is a 6 or a legitimate 7 and will probably have as much options as an 8 or 9 with guys that are looking for something other than a woman that's just pretty, especially if she dates young. But she's still competing with girls that are hotter and don't have her money or wit for the kinds of guys most women(not her I don't know her preferences) want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:07 PM
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then its cheating. Well not really. All of the women calling his show have no idea what a man wants. Most women don't understand what men want and don't care because women get endless validation for no reason. Women dont have dicks, so women don't prioritize sex like men. There's really no evidence that women need sex less than men, but there's a massive amount of evidence to show that the reason women need sex less is they are passive and get sexual attention for free. that's why women have lis…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 07:02 PM
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Most nerdy girls I've met in all my jobs or school were sought after by all kinds of men and ended up dating a guy that owned a successful business or taught at a major famous art school or owned a series of successful YT channels or something. Nerdy women with average looks are like...giga alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:51 PM
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Zactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:48 PM
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An NYC woman called into his show once claiming guys in IT were low value, while setting her parameter for a high value man at being income. Can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:47 PM
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But those men earning that much are even rarer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:46 PM
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Right but if 100% of women want a man that's making 200k that means that a in order to get that man's attention they have to give that man what he wants, which is sex. So...a man's RMV is his SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:44 PM
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Being a skilled lover is completely irrelevant to being in a relationship with a woman. Most women have a guy they can just call up if they want sexual satisfaction. That's not what women get into relationships with HVM for. So a lot of women call into KS's show saying they want a guy earning 2x what she's making but there also has to be chemistry and he has to be exclusive and a good lover. While she has absolutely no idea what he wants in return and only wants to learn from KS how to fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:41 PM
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because they don't care about our happiness. Well the women that call him don't actually care about the happiness of men they're seeking out. They're looking for a man to facilitate their lifestyle. Because male happiness is not required for reproduction either. It's not really equivalent. The men these women are calling about are widely desired by other women. So their happiness is actually required for anything to happen in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:40 PM
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you really think graying, balding old men are more sexually attractive compared to men in their 20s or even early-mid 30s? Most men in their 20's aren't getting this kind of attention from women on a regular bass. So I dunno. You be the judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:35 PM
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What's the percentage of women that stop having sex after marriage? 37 year old fat woman with kids wants a man that's 'high value' yet she doesn't know what a high value man would want. She doesn't know what a low value man would want. That's probably why a low value man would cheat on her too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:26 PM
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He said they exercise options. If a woman is highly feminine, cooperative, supportive etc, the guy will have no time or energy to cheat. But all of these women are making demands of things men need to bring to the table, bringing nothing to the table other women can't bring, then ignoring the needs of their men. Most women stop having sex after marriage. And aside from kids that's the one thing a man can't get from any other kind of relationship other than casual sex. So women are expecting to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:24 PM
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Kevin Samuels is looking out for men like himself. He has no interest in helping these women out. As a young black woman with no kids, I don't take advice from a 2x divorcee. Right. He tells women to marry a guy that's making a normal income. A guy that fills potholes or works as an engineer or works in construction or a plumber or a car mechanic or a guy that drives trucks or busses. But most women reject those men and push them to be extra ambitious so that the woman can live a lifestyle on hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:22 PM
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He's right though. They want to have a guy in the top 10 percent of men, while trying to get that man to pay the price he would get for a young virgin, while simultaneously not bringing anything that man would want, while also not knowing what that man would want. On top of that bullshit they want 'chemistry and love and orgasms' but they want him to stay completely loyal to her when she's catastrophically below average. A woman that earns 60k or so, twice the average man, thinks she can get a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 06:20 PM
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So women would rather assume a guy that's genuinely trying to get to know a woman as a person is pretending to be nice just to 'get into her pants' and fuck someone just because they're hot so that they can not feel bad bout themselves. Wow, gotta hand it to you. Despite your best efforts to shitpost you actually validated the opposing point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:50 PM
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Yeah, like when guys say “Nice Guys Finish Last” what they actually mean is “Im mad that opening doors for women didnt give me a One Night Stand with 10s.” Why do you have to communicate like that? I don't understand the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 11:10 PM
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yeah makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 06:14 PM
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y
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:52 PM
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Wow I really should have fucked the creepy overweight HR lady at my first job that kept touching me inappropriately!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:49 PM
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What you’re saying implies that the age preference trends between men and women should be inverse. Yet it’s not. It's not inverse because what women desire from men and men desire from women are not the same things or even really related. So men and women both desire youth and fertility from each other. But on top of that women are hypergamous. So men have to wait by increasing their value to be good enough for average women, right? All women have to do is not destroy their value over time by be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:09 PM
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It was pretty clear. What women want out of men takes years to accrue. If men didn't have to climb patriarchal hierarchies women would want men around their own age and men would want women around their own age. A woman that's 35 would not be less desirable than a woman that's 18. But because women demand so much of men there really isn't anything a woman that's older can bring to a man that a younger woman can't bring that a man can't also bring himself or get from someone that's not a woman. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 02:06 AM
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This comment isn’t related to the thread at all. It’s just an off-tangent rant about unfairness. ​ How did your views about women with a history of casual sex change? My views changed because I realized they don't have to do anything to acquire a long list of past partners. And then they will compare men they later sleep with to men that didn't even see them as more than something short term. The reason I used the ugliest woman I dated and not the extremely attractive ones(not very many tbh) as …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:57 PM
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I think it's every woman based on every woman I've dated whether they were hot or average or below average being like that to one degree or another and the fact that women are passive. So women that are hot average or below average don't actually have to achieve anything to compare you to boyfriends that had something they wanted in the past, right? No women has to do that but all women get to compare. All the woman has to do is conse-- well they don't even need to consent, you understand? It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:38 PM
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Sure, but the things women value in men accrue over time. Money status power etc. Men gain value over time if they choose to acquire those things. Guys that are young and don't have those things guess what? They have to be good looking, just like women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:35 PM
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You seem to have deluded yourself about the current state of college liberal women. I know exactly what the current state of women that are 18-28 are. It's a wonderland for men that only want to have casual sex, even better if you're complete fuckboy. Women just happen to find the nearest stone or surface, lay upon it supine with their legs wide open. novelty of sex with a younger women There is no novelty that comes from sex with younger women because all you want is the vagina, right? So once …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:32 AM
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Sure. IDC. Women's experiences outside of directly being abused have very little meaning to me because most of it is passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 06:25 AM
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Based on the fact that men never force women to climb patariarchal or matriarchala hierarchies in order to be deemed valuable by society while women are simultaneously mostly passive. Women are given inherent value whereas men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:55 AM
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sure buddy, you just know Yeah, I mean I had one ex that was a fat unpretty lesbian who bragged about having an ex that was ridiculously hung and another that could pick her up and twirl her around. Despite her being 6'4 and like 220 lbs. Every normal appearing woman that had too many partners and started to compare other men to them were like that to a greater or lesser degree. The only women that were not like that were way younger, prettier and, well, tighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:19 AM
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You can always, always tell, partially because they will find a way to let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:53 AM
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artsy type girl who is "not really sexual" and according to her words lies in bed all day. Before her was a hoe and everybody knew. hahaha it's an archetype
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:40 AM
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Had a lot of female friends that were in and out of casual relationships and they were average/below average with hyper unrealistic standards. That's just one of the things. There's also working in different industries and realizing that women that are average and below average get elevated by men at the top so easily it's effing ridiculous. The same thing isn't happening for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:38 AM
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The reason men are like that is women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:53 PM
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but I’ll keep this in mind if we don’t work out. dont keep it in mind idiot LOL forget about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:52 PM
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They would probably all mysteriously disappear in a fucking CIA drone strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:28 AM
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There definitely is, I've checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:23 AM
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That doesn't mean they're going to. I'm 30. There aren't that many 30 year old women to meet out in the world casually. Most of the women I meet are pretty young, like 17-24ish? Yeah. Outside of a workplace or some other institution here it would be inappropriate to talk to women aren't really out and about in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:16 AM
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it almost sounds like a lot of men will instantly dump their wives once they hit their 40s for some hot piece of college ass even if there wasn’t big conflicts in their marriage, simply because the wife has lost so much worth from aging. I think that's pretty rare. It's just that an older woman can't really do anything that a younger woman can't. And a younger woman is less likely to be extremely opinionated, combative, have stds, kids, tons of sex partners and experience that leads her to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:10 AM
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I had a few slow months and fucked less than attractive women in their mid 40's - early 50's on a few occasions i got to see inboxes. The difference is hilarious. I put 0 effort into OLD anymore after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 07:02 AM
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Totally reasonable. Unfortunately the loudest voices really aren't reasonable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:04 PM
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Mmmm no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:48 PM
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The thing is men never had paper abortions anyway. All they're seeing is women demanding rights while ignoring the reality that men need certain rights as well. Women should be able to get abortions any time they want to sure but if anyone says women should only be getting child support in cases of rape where they kept a child or inside of a marriage women will fight you tooth and nail. And this is part of what I mean where feminism doesn't encourage responsibility or accountability. There's abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:40 PM
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oh okay
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:31 PM
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We should just take away women's abortion rights then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:07 PM
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Jeffrey Epstein?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 03:04 PM
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And abortions only for women that have a hysterectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 02:53 PM
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whats wrong with richmond
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:05 AM
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The recent capital riots basically blow up the entire idea that minorities really commit more crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 05:03 AM
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In an age where women demand that it's entirely rational to judge men based on appearance while selecting future partners based solely on appearance it's entirely reasonable for men to assume that the only thing separating what constitutes predatory behavior from non-predatory behavior is whether or not a woman thinks a man is sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 04:52 AM
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Pretty much any interaction with any man all the way from initiating up to having children. Women pretty much have all of the authority to dictate the reality of what happened even if it's not really what happened and it's actually kind of always been like that, but it's much worse today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:23 AM
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It's true. Feminism granted women authority but didn't encourage them to claim responsibility or accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:19 AM
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wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:17 AM
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Try talking to a woman about allowing men to get paper abortions holy shit. You can be talking to a dainty princess but it's almost as if you asked Sauron to borrow his ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:15 AM
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I mean I've had 3 different women I was completely uninterested in imply that I was doing something inappropriate. In my mind this kind of thing is extremely common because there's no real way to question it. It's not asinine to compare the two. There are real rapists and murders in prison, right? The problem is that men don't bring them up on their own time and with genuine concern. There is no authority to go to. Men aren't the authority. What women perceive to be this patriarchal cabal is rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:11 AM
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No, i got yelled at by female friends for not swiping right on fat women. And the women yelling at me were fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:08 AM
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Because in the same decade where women are saying that rape is everywhere women are perfectly comfortable inviting a guy to her place for sex if he has the perfect abs and jawline and has nothing to offer but punny innuendos and sex. :D There's really no good reason to be sympathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:59 PM
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I don't know. I'm still not sure about asking fish about fishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:50 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:27 AM
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Yeah, the average income for black males isn't 73k. That's for college educated white men. The fact that you don't understand that is probably why you don't understand how KS is actually helping women. It's really not his fault women are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:20 AM
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It means to do drugs through your angus.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:19 AM
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Don't boof too much cocaine now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:02 AM
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Oh okay nice talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 03:01 AM
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They don’t have to have a movement to eat more soy. Right, because men haven't changed. Women changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:57 AM
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They’re no more assertions than your claims Women changed to start out earning men thanks to the feminist movement. There would be absolutely no problem with this if feminism had pushed women to relinquish the infantilism that patriarchy lets them get away with. So they're still hypergamous while largely out earning men. So it really isn't men that have changed, right? Just because testosterone levels are dropping doesn't mean that's something that normally happens in large societies or that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:36 AM
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when he knows they come to him for relationships. They come to him and try to figure out how to game men that have worked extremely hard in their lives to commit to them in relationships while being unwilling to change in order to get that man. A single mom in her 40's with 3 kids called in confused as to why she couldn't get a man earning over 100k to stick around despite all she 'brought to the table.' He explained that she brings liabilities to the table and has nothing to offer the man that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:33 AM
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These are just assertions though. The only one I'll address is that men are controlling. We would be happy with equals. It's just that women that are your equals tend to be hypergamous. In highschool when dating starts boys aren't often dating women in college. But the opposite is rather common, right? I changed careers multiple times and each time I knew women that entered the career same as me with no skills but was propped up by a man she was dating that had been in the field for a decade. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:11 AM
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Uhhh... is this your explanation of how men changed? Where did I say that men have changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:41 AM
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They do now and you realize you quoted the part about age and being childfree? Also, you didn’t answer the questions. At the end of my reply right after you asked how have men changed. The woman doesn't have equal RMV even though men will sleep with her. The 32 year old man has more leverage. They should be equal legally but as far as dating, no. Not really. The man doesn't care about the woman's money. And before you ask, many women care about his money. I don't see what you're talking about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:16 AM
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If you’re both 32 year old 5s with no kids, would you consider her your equal? Men never cared about women's income. So a 32 y/o women wouldn't be a man's equal, since the youngest man that women would get involved with is probably 30. I already told you in which ways men have changed and you yourself have inadvertently said they’ve changed, Sure tell me where?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:54 AM
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Nah. It’s the same rehashed pimp culture. His point wasn't really that men should cheat. It's that because women have unrealistic expectations of men they should not expect that men would be completely faithful to them, and that's completely reasonable. So because women think 73k is average, 6'0 is average, 7 inches is average, etc, men who are or surpass those things women should not be surprised that those men do not commit to them. It's pretty much the same as women saying a girl that's 18 an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:35 AM
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Well, look. 73K isn't common in reality and you're trying to pretend it is. Women claim they want equals then immediately discard men that are equals. And KS was never saying men should cheat. Just that the men women want are likely to never commit and more likely to exercise options. It really isn't men's fault. That's why it's so difficult communicating with you because you're insisting men have changed while not actually providing any real evidence they are becoming more unrealistic while ign…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 09:22 PM
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Because if it’s the latter my stance has been that he’s not right as far as women are concerned and he has nothing of value for them and he’s not trying to help them. Who cares about helping women? They have feminism for that, right? WGTOW has been a thing for like 50 years, right? Why are women so solipsistic that they think a man that's been talking to men for 3 years should make a show that's catered to women? Can you name any shows on mainstream TV that are catered to men? Women have gotten …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 09:19 PM
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You know the difference between those two words but you can't fucking figure out that men that make that much are uncommon? 'The apex average ultimate super penultimate median black male income is 700k if you don't make that you're gay'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 07:03 PM
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I know. I just can't imagine something that stupid exists. She put her fingers in the soap, then it cut to her licking her clean hand. WTF made this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:26 PM
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Maybe you missed it? RP guys that focus on relationships are really an offshoot because RP is about not being obligated to relationships and only being obligated to yourself. Also if the guy is a 9 and earning less she as a 6 will still be happy. So if you’re a man that doesn’t have the salary a high earning woman wants you can still get her with looks. But that's exactly what men do. They earn and then try to attract mates that are sexually desirable and women claim that's misogyny and oppressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:13 PM
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For divorcing a fat woman? What do you have to say to THIS?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1rpr0Afhfg It's a video about a woman that eats detergent btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:01 PM
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Some of the women that call in don’t specify income. If they don't specify income KS asks them if they want to have kids with their future partner, what city do they live in and how much income would their partner need to raise a family in that city. And the women typically have completely unrealistic answers. Black men’s median wage is about 73K. L O L O L O L. Extreme delusion. That's the median income for white male college graduates not black males in general. There isn't much else I need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:45 PM
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Was I wrong though?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:41 PM
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I'm not, but it's what women select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:24 PM
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Yeah, whatever. People will start believing you when women stop being hypergramous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:17 PM
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It's not misogyny or evil. It's what women select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:10 PM
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If a guy said he divorced his wife because there was moldy overgrowth creeping out of her super fat FUPA he would be added to a watch list and given an anal pat down every time he went to an airport.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:56 PM
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They all don’t. That's objectively untrue. I can recall only one show where a woman said she was willing to entertain a guy that made 50k, which is already over the median income for most men. Most women that call in seem to think 90k+ is average and they're settling if they date a guy that makes that. but outside a lot of the things that make a man high value are just normal adult mile stones Earning over 100,000 for 5 years, having a large social network of men that are also doing the same and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:46 PM
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I don't know what guy you're talking about. Most guys that talk about RP content do not talk about having relationships. They talk about making yourself desirable enough so that you can have endless casual relationship just like women can. That's actually the entirety of what RP is about. KS talked about men being allowed to cheat because so many women have unrealistic expectations of average men are earning and are hyperfocused on a very small percentage of men that have all the options. So obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:14 PM
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Most want to plate spin and have a harem. Others want a girlfriend to have their kids and raise them well and side chicks to have fun with. You completely invented the second part. Rp is about not cohabitating or committing while maximizing your potential to continually date women casually the same way any woman can try to date casually her entire life. Men have to earn that because society doesn't give them inherent value like it gives women inherent value. They push them into the “woman’s” rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:14 PM
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oh. it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:11 PM
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Also they don’t all want high value men. They all do. That doesn't mean all women are this delusional, but this kind of woman is common in all races. The only reason I've watched his show is I've noticed the same mentality and behavior among all kinds of women. For men it’s a higher level hyper-fixation on youth The reason younger women are more desired is not because they're more valuable. It's because old women of certain generations have ruined a large portion of prospective relationships wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:57 AM
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Men were fine taking criticism. It's only when he dared criticize a woman that called into his show demanding advice on a day where he was only taking calls from people that were disagreeing that he became controversial. She demanded advice and he clearly said he didn't want to give it to her on the show(he wasn't trying to publicly humiliate her) but she kept demanding it. And what she was asking for was pretty silly. Men that earned way more than her, even though she lacked everything that man…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:53 AM
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uh whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:46 AM
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I just did? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:46 AM
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Well women wanted to be equals with men. But they don't want to date or fuck equals because of hypergamy. Hypergamy is the reason the men that women select for belong to men. That's what women select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:45 AM
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He does make a lot of sense. The women calling into his show want 'HVM.' But all women want HVM. These women want men in the top .001% of men when you factor everything in statistically, then demand the relationship be exclusive. isn’t an impossible It's based on whatever she's earning. So if she's making 100k she expects a guy to earn 150. A woman called into his show the other day thinking that because she made 50k she could get a guy making 500k. It's almost like these are paid actresses. mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:46 AM
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easily find masses of women to rotate through and discard. But that's exactly what women have by default, and what women do. The handful of men who are looking for partners are looking because they want kids but they want a woman who will happily accept poor treatment and let them have a bunch of side chicks. NO. That is the men that the women who proactively call into his show and seek his advice in finding a 'high value male' want. The entire reason there are men with harems is those men are w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:40 AM
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When I say he's accurate I don't mean he helps women get what they want, because that's never been what his show is about. What I mean is that when a woman says she hasn't been in a relationship for 12 years that means she was just having 12 years of short term casual relationships. Or a woman that's saying men need to get on her level being 5'10 220 pounds with herpes working at a call center. Or a woman saying he's wrong about everything literally being a 60 year old woman with no husband with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:19 AM
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Even if it is, he's consistently right about the women that come on their show, how frequently they try to portray men as evil and how easily he exposes them as being full of shit. The reason men that have lots of options are successful is that's what women select for. That's why if you walk into a club and you're the tallest one there women will give you lots of attention. Not just because you're tall but because women think other women will give you the same attention. It's stupid but it's how…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:05 AM
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His advice isn't really like that and most RP isn't. It's about not settling for a woman and getting committed to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 03:03 AM
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They'd probably try to tie him up and drag him behind a truck or something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:50 AM
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Once women find you attractive enough you have to proactively dissuade them like being feminine or beta. But it can be done. Maybe if women find out he's a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:46 AM
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Okay. I believe you, but it doesn't matter if I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:43 AM
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Oh, I thought you said owner. Women will probably date/fuck the taller guy into their 30's until they realize he's fucking 10 other women and won't settle for any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:40 AM
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I am very unwilling to have hookups with men who are above my league. And I'm very unwilling to have hookups with 18 year olds with fat asses. :() Stop demonizing me. I'm not. You're insisting you don't want something many women seem to want while sounding like you secretly do want that. I was just trying to say men that are very high earners and high status and powerful tend to meet a lot of women that are like you. It's like a person working at a modeling agency with 50 people lined up outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:39 AM
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"Officer, I WASN'T masturbating in public." You keep saying it's not what you want, but the more you talk the more it sounds like you're willing to have casual hookups with men that will never marry you for a few years like most modern women. It's not 'awalt' it's going based on what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:33 AM
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Still not clear on why that's a factor for men but whatever. It's kind of weird that the lowest end of your wealth value for men is owning a business. And for looks, how rare do you think a guy that's not just 6'5, but 9/10 in looks with a perfect body on top is compared to a slim 18 year old that's a 'beautiful' waitress? That height is 99.95 percentile and his income probably 95 percentile and his looks/physique, probably 95 percentile as well. You can't just separate the 3 things, you must co…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:31 AM
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I will NOT be jumping into a bed with a man who does this (PUAs included.) Riiiight. Okay. Dunno why you needed to say that outloud. "I DON'T have herpes and gonorrhea!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:23 AM
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Derrik Jaxn was just outed as being a rapacious cheater like a week ago
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:21 AM
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You don't have to need harems for his advice to be applicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:20 AM
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He's right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:19 AM
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And the people calling into Kevin's show these days are mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:18 AM
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Why does the race matter all of a sudden?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:17 AM
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I get how that comes off a certain way, but I was literally just saying that they probably have a lot of partners to choose from that are not very distinguishable from you, because tons of women are earning degrees and trying to leverage something that men don't care about to get a HVM, while there are very, very few HVM to go around. Make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:16 AM
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Probably because he's been beating the shit out of men for years and nobody really cared because he was giving men advice and they were accepting it. He gained popularity when he told a woman that's honestly a 2 in the looks department that having a dog daycare doesn't mean she's likely going to find a partner that makes way more money than her. And he wasn't being an ass about it. She called in at the wrong time asking for advice that he usually gets paid to give, while she was a business owner…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:12 AM
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Kevin Samuels has a lot of good content but the idea that someone is entitled to commit to a relationship then step outside of it is silly. I think most men can agree that cheating on a loyal partner is messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:09 AM
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Yeah, saying that cheating is fine for guys but not for women is a bridge too far.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:06 AM
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I think that's something pretty silly he's said. HVM simply shouldn't commit if they're going to cheat. There's no reason to marry a woman and/or have kids then cheat on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:05 AM
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Depends. They probably have a ton of women to choose from like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 01:00 AM
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Almost all women are passive in dating, and hypergamous, and modern feminism have given them the freedom to live without having to meet any expectations men would have on a female partner. So when a woman gets a super high earning degree and starts making 300k she might start to realize that dating a guy that makes money doesn't matter anymore, and the only thing that matters is...that he's good looking and has a hot body and is a partner that' s supportive in a masculine way. Except...that's wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:59 AM
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Well, you shouldn't move to a big city and expect that just because HVM will sleep with you that they will commit to you. I mean, I wouldn't take advice from me since I'm not a woman but men that are considered high value usually have tons of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:47 AM
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Sure it's a factor but the likelihood of a woman being 30 and not having had that many partners is pretty low because women get attention for free and are hypergamous at the same time. Virgins and young women aren't inherently valuable. They're only valuable in comparison to older women that have usually destroyed everything that makes women attractive to men in the first place. So both of these women would probably get passed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:41 AM
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If a woman can't find someone wherever she is when she's young moving to a big city isn't going to help. Might make finding a partner way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:30 AM
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Sure, that's great. A lot of women date short guys. Maybe that means you have to be more proactive in finding a partner. What city are you in?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:14 AM
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Women get treated like children because they want all the freedom of a matriarchy and lack of accountability of patriarchy. So in your first post you mention having advanced degrees or blah blah blah as if men are supposed to care. The entire reason degrees is exist is women make men climb hierarchies in order for them to be given value. Men don't make those women climb hierarchies. Women do. It's not our fault it's women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:13 AM
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The two are simply competing on factors other than their career. The guy is already a lawyer. He knows that the woman lawyer probably has 30+ sexual partners from a decade of having a degree be her priority and never being in a real relationship. On top of that when they started working on a degree in the same class this same woman would have likely ignored him while hooking up with someone that already was out of college and had a real job, or someone that was just sexually appealing for whatev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:06 AM
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Being hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:44 PM
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knows that the CEO is well out of her reach, Well women should have all the freedom in the world to be anything they want. It's just that when women got that freedom they didn't stop being hypergamous. So a woman can become a CEO and nobody would be mad obviously, but sshe's going to have to date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:38 PM
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Right. And most women are that to a greater or lesser degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:34 PM
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He sounds based. Feminine isn't just a looks thing, it's a personality thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:34 PM
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Wow. Doesn't that mean her worklife comes first and her home life second?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:32 PM
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It's probably your terrible personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:25 PM
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Disadvantage because women with advanced degrees aren't really worried about dating til they get their degree which will be when they're closer to 30. If they want kids, they don't have much time to find a quality partner. So many of the women that call into KS's show claim to have not been in a relationship for like 12 years or so because they were pursuing a career or something. Were they celebrate the entire time? Ofc not. So they want a guy to wait until they're ready to have sex, treat them…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:25 PM
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Right. But most women don't really think that way. Or at least they don't proactively pursue men that aren't 666. They expect those men to perform a massive amount of emotional labor while all the men are really getting in return is sex. Everything else a woman can give a man he can get from other relationships, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:14 PM
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Yeah, I mean. That's why RP isn't narcissism. It makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:01 PM
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How do you know they were RP? Sounds like you just aren't a feminine partner. Men don't want to marry a woman that's competing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:56 PM
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Right. So women are hypergamous meaning they're looking for a leader, and they haven't become less hypergamous now that society allows them to have as much casual sex as they want and pursue any kind of degree or political office or career they want, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:39 PM
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Work on your personality? Date men that aren't trying to pump and dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:36 PM
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It's really not true. Women changed to get the authority of women in a matriarchy and the lack of accountability of women in a patriarchy. A lot of women behave like children but want the power of a judge jury and execution it makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:35 PM
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But most women are like that to a greater or lesser degree. Women dont' tend to be hypogamous, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:30 PM
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The thing is, all women are like that to a greater or lesser degree. Most women aren't going to marry 'down.' And the entire men go out of their way to climb hierarchies is women are the ones that made them climb hierarchies in order to be deemed desirable. Men never really made women climb a hierarchy. Just don't be fat, and you can easily get laid. Don't be too promiscuous and you can get a husband. Everything else a woman can do a man can do in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:27 PM
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Women with high income tend to want men with much higher income. I didn't learn this from RP I learned this from dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:24 PM
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Yeah because your most defining traits make you fall into a category with a lot of undesirable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:23 PM
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Men ten to increase in value after their 30's because what women desire from men increases in value. Women tend to decrease in value because the only thing women offer men decreases in value. So a lot of why there's confusion for you might be that this past generation has been fed a lot of propaganda that men and women are equals which isn't really true. We should have completely equal rights but we're not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:16 PM
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Sounds like an outlier. Most women aren't like tht.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:52 PM
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The reason men are forced to desire women is women are hypergamous from the moment dating start.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:51 PM
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Those are as much tricks as women telling men that the best way to get a girlfriend is to be their friend first. RP is really not about manipulation which is why I find it appealing as opposed to PUA, which is about manipulation and I never liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:49 PM
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Like I mentioned to another person, their ideal type of woman is usually a submissive 18-year-old slim-curvy white ISFJ Stepford Wife who looks like an Instagram model. That's not really true. Men haven't changed to become more demanding and desire women that are more rare. Women are the ones that changed to become more demanding of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:01 PM
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lying and manipulating women like TRP suggests men do I've never read anything RP that's about lying and manipulating. Just avoiding commitment and improving yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:51 PM
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They're not really dating the 18 year old just having sex with multiple women over the age of 18 and not marrying them. The reason men often say women that are careerists have nothing to offer is men already need to be that in order to get any woman to stick around anyway. So you marry a woman that has a great career and makes 100k. She will expect that you make 150k. I've experienced this first hand many times. So if you actually marry a woman like that by mistake what happens if she starts mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:40 PM
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Usually women like that are going to expect that he's really ambitious and constantly try to change him to be someone she actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:33 PM
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No response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:26 PM
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Are you so fucking stupid you think I'm the one that invented the term 'nice guys finish last?' The amount of effort men have to put in in order to get the one thing most women can offer, sex, is extreme, if they're kind, polite, nice, gentle and make a serious effort to give the woman attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:12 PM
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OH OKAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:03 PM
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Hahah. See this asshole calls me an incel for no reason: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/mbonek/sluts_arent_bad_people_they_are_just_poor_choices/gsoa67b?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Am I involuntarily celibate? No, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 05:03 PM
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but mcdickhead with a Toyota ruined it because he keeps cheating on us and wont marry us Lol. That's all you really need to know about why women go to FDS. You played yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:26 AM
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Men were always willing to fuck women that are available because women are the ones that demand men climb hierarchies in order to be considered valuable enough to partner with. Men really haven't changed. Women set the goalpoast at vagina, then decided that caring about what men want isn't important because there's always a new man to have a short term relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:22 AM
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I don't have a problem with women I'm just answering your question. Women changed. Men didn't change.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 04:01 AM
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Men haven't really changed in modern times. It's women that changed and set the bar at casual sex. This lumpy idiot here is complaining about all the men she has casual sex with on tinder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PD5WG1QDQ Notice how remarkably unattractive she looks, while also having a repulsive personality? She's still having sex without any effort on her part. Bra burners like these set the goalpost at 'vagina', don't offer anything else to a relationship then think that society wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:51 AM
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I mean, look at this fucking lump with mental illness, gratuitous fat, saggy tits, giant nose and a vertical canthal tilt saying men are trash on Tinder. Because she wants tons of casual sex and she doesn't have to do or be anything a man would find appealing to get it. And she gets angered that she resents them for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PD5WG1QDQ And that's where most modern women set the bar and it's not actually men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:45 AM
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So repulsive. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:25 AM
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It's for women, by women, why would the man be in the calculation? That's why modern women are only good for sex. That's where modern women set the final goalpost. After that they basically explicitly tell you they have nothing else to offer and can add nothing to your life. And because they're fundamentally useless they never have to consider how they might be valuable to a man. And here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:19 AM
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Derrick Jaxn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:16 AM
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my point is people will sleep with women at practically any age. they won't have relationships with promiscuous women though and would prefer the opposite Yup. Women withhold sex and men withhold relationships. Women 'spin plates' by having orbiters. And they do it to men all the time. The women in that video think they're all eventually going to land one of the guys they're sleeping with and get a relationship out of him. They're the ones getting spun. And because they're hypergamous, have noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:29 AM
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friendships do more than enough except for when i'm horny Lol. You figured out something important. It's only when women start earning the same as men they realize that the other gender does nothing for them but offer sex and kids. Except it's always been that way for men. Women offer them nothing but sex and children that they can't get elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:54 PM
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Not to mention, there is a documented decrease in casual sex in current times. Here is the study: I was talking about what's the easiest way to get attention from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:52 PM
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So you're saying women aren't passive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:44 PM
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So women are making the majority of payouts to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:34 PM
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It's really not a revenge fantasy. I seriously doubt most men hate women or have any real ill will towards women. What you're misunderstanding is that female expectations of men are often extremely unrealistic because most women at least of my generation, have set the bar at 'will this guy that I'm attracted to have sex with me' and not 'will this guy commit.' Most men will have sex with a woman as long as she's not proactively repulsive. it's an accomplishment to hold one down It's not. You're …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 05:32 PM
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This makes absolutely no sense. Try and structure it better. It makes absolute sense precisely because women are passive and shame men who aren't virgins. Given those two facts how would a guy know that being a fuckboy actually isn't the easiest way to make a connection with women and 'just being yourself' is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:46 PM
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women understood their motives. Yeah? It's so weird that women ITT are saying that 'yeah women totally want to have casual sexual relationships forever' but at the same time other women are pretending it's men being predatory by wanting casual sex. Women also want casual sex, to their detriment, so they tend to give fuckboys easy access because they 'understand their motives.'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:39 PM
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Lol. It's highly likely that women lose a significant portion of their income?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:37 PM
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If it is a generalization men would never know because women rarely initiate, right? Women wanted all the 'privileges' of being a man but the lack of accountability of being a woman. And here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:14 AM
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Well, yeah. Trust me. Women of all ages and backgrounds will give you a massive amount of attention when you get a fuckboy car and a fuckboy attitude and a fuckboy haircut. Grandma teachers, 18 year olds with giant tits, chubby latinas, nazi-lite wasps, bulldykes, cops, you name it. You don't even have to try at that point, it's fucking depressing. You're basically a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:12 AM
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Yeah, there's being a fuckboy, paying for it, faking relationships with women and just being 'hot.'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:04 AM
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Aaaand what's the likelihood of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:03 AM
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But it really isn't a revenge fantasy. Modern women were told lies that they can live lifestyles of apex men in order 'liberate themselves' from being in average relationships with average men. They were told these lies by the writers of magazines like Cosmo. I was going to write a long post but why bother: most are not in relationships and won't be in relationships with men more than a decade older I said sex. Men don't really need relationships from women. We want sex. The reason you think men…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:06 PM
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Absolutely necessarily. Female sexual attention falls off around their mid 30's, and they stop getting anywhere near as much attention as they did in their 20's. What a lot of women that are young and think they'll enjoy casual sex forever is that having an endless supply of sexual partners is a completely empty existence for promiscuous men and women. So just because men don't shame other men for being promiscuous doesn't mean men are privileged for being able to more easily get away with being…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:45 PM
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They're the ones being spun on the carousel. At some point they're the ones that have to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 03:56 AM
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Until sex becomes the only thing women want out of interacting with men it really isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 03:46 AM
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they can "spin plates" too. That's not how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 02:48 AM
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they do the pumping and dumping themselves Women can't pump and dump. And who cares what you think, women are passive. So even if 90% of them wanted to date another virgin nobody would know, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 02:35 AM
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Certainly not the norm and it's certainly not what men learn because women are typically passive. So there's really know what to know if what you're saying is true. It's basically a social blackbox.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 02:08 AM
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That's not an insult. I was suggesting that men mostly ignore women that are extremely fat although it's a sliding scale. I've desired a few fat women before but not a woman that was catastrophically overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:37 PM
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I don't have to validate your experiences because this thread is about men that have had many partners not wanting to be with women that have had many partners. It has nothing to do with what women want and what their experiences are? Why can't you understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:36 PM
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No one said anything about women cheating more just that when they do cheat a man can be divorced then robbed. Women typically don't lose their wealth when a divorce happens and they're usually the ones filing. So why would a man enter a long term contract with a woman that's had 30 partners and liable to get bored? There are a million reasons men don't want promiscuous women even if they are promiscuous and it's not a double standard. And you can tell men value promiscuity in men because they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:33 PM
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That sounds like complete horseshit. Women want a guy who has the choice to be a slut but will only be a slut for her. :O
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:18 PM
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I’m telling men that if they’re a slut, don’t demand your partner be chaste. It's not a double standard to be promiscuous and seek out a partner that isn't. That's like saying men are hypocrites for wanting to date women and not other men. It doesn't actually logically follow when you apply the same reasoning to anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 09:14 PM
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Yeah, maybe I'm the one boofing crack and not you. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:39 PM
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So? What did they learn? They finally learned self control? It's fine for men to not want to be with women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:33 PM
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I'm not. There's nothing wrong with being something and deciding you wouldn't want to date what you are. That's like saying men are hypocritical for being men and not wanting to date men. It's not a doublestandard anywhere else, but the reason men get beaten over the head with the idea that not wanting promiscuous women is a double standard is women put promiscuity on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:31 PM
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Women aggressively select for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:30 PM
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Sure, but they're called fuckboys because women let them fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:28 PM
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Those men are called rakes. But the reason that term never gets used is women put promiscuity on a pedestal. So nobody gets called a rake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:36 PM
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If you do the math someone that's had 30 partners by 30 is really bad at relationships or has a lot of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:35 PM
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And? So what? The only ones who are impressed by the number of partners a guy has is other guys. Women care way more than men. I've gotten laid so many times because my ex was extremely hot and other people found out about it. It's actually super gross, but that's the truth. Part of my problem is being sensitive to the reality that the easiest way to impress women is by being fundamentally mediocre. That's probably why men, particularly men that are promiscuous, don't care for promsicuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:14 PM
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It's not a double standard because the standard is being placed on a your partner. If you were to walk down the street and tell a young girl in your neighborhood not to talk to a man because she's talking to another man while ignoring the fact that the man she's talking to is talking to multiple women that's a double standard. Wanting your wife to not be a slag is not. If you want this 'double standard' to go away start telling women that they need to desire virginal men as much as men desire vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:13 PM
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Yeah men having to perform massive amounts of emotional labor to get everything that women get for free is the reason that men do not value women whose only remarkable characteristic is how much sex they're having for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:06 PM
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It's not at all. The only thing that is hypocrisy is being promiscuous for over a decade having 30+ partners by the age of 30 then deciding you're a born again virgin and going to start making men wait for you to have sex and perform much more emotional labor in order to get sex. Women say it all the time. By they turn 30 they're tired of all the fuckboys and bad boys and they want a 'nice guy' meanwhile they had sex with 60+ 'fuckboys' who sent her texts like this. The reason they want a nice g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:58 PM
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He's totally right. Women always try to discredit the idea that man is capable of acquiring women like sexual property especially on this sub. You're claiming he's trying to mansplain but you're the one outright denying his experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:33 PM
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Women can be anything and be sexually active. A woman can be an obese quadrupole amputee who rolls around like sanic and still find someone willing to make her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:28 PM
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A double standard is "I have a high N-count but I want a low N-count partner", That's not even true. It's neither a double standard nor hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:12 PM
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How psychopthic women react when men bring up the idea that all children should be paternity tested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpkzw-DAk_0 that's just how it works. That's AWESOME, but men being promiscuous and not wanting a woman that's promiscuous for a long term relationship is neither a double standard nor hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:05 PM
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You're not a hypocrite for being promiscuous and not wanting a woman that's promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:00 PM
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That's not really a double standard or hypocrisy. A double standard would mean that the guy thinks women in general shouldn't be promiscuous. He just wants his partner to not be promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:00 PM
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There's nothing at all wrong with being a promiscuous man and wanting a woman that isn't promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 02:58 PM
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hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 12:32 AM
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The fact that you're a lesbian is not our problem and we shouldn't all be forced to entertain the details of your incredibly unusual lifestyle of being a lesbian woman that feels some sort of external pressure to be in a relationship with a gay bottom man then pretend you have anything in common with normal fucking people and that your life experience is anything but an extreme outlier. I claimed that women enjoy having sexual attention for free and you likened it to a man getting pegged. No, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:39 PM
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Women are being paid with either money time or attention for things they already want. Don't act like you don't understand. Or maybe you really don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:31 PM
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I think you're lying because you and many women on this sub routinely describe heterosexual relationships as something someone wouldn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:30 PM
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It's extremely uncommon and you're probably lying anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:06 PM
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I would prefer a man leave me than have sex with other women on the side. This is what I don't understand. Women want men to men to value sex so little that they are willing to have a relationship without sex. Yet despite sex being so meaningless you would want the man to leave you rather than having allegedly meaningless sex with other people? Maybe the problem is women get so much sexual attention for free that they've started to feel entitled to emotional labor. "Oh, I don't like this fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 11:02 PM
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Women get sex for free. So they assume that it's fair to just decline sex but demand romantic attention. That just means the man isn't getting anything, because men certainly aren't getting romantic attention from women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:55 PM
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Women value them at least as much as men. It's just that women ALREADY get sex for free so then you start hearing about women charging men for sex. And then when women find they can actually get that you start hearing about women charging men for their company and no sex. So women, being the passive gender, get what they want. They just want someone to pay them to get something they already fucking wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:51 PM
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Sex is the only thing with men can do with women they can't do with other men or friends. So why be more than friends with a woman if you can't have sex with her? The entire reason this is a debate in woman's minds is they get sex for free, so it has no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 10:50 PM
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You did said slightly overweight not so fat her body is growing fungus in the crevices where sweat accumulates. And that's the thing, men dumpster dive all the time for women just for the sake of abundance. So women that are fat will question why some men reject them when in reality no men really want them more than if they were thin. It's just that men aren't picky to the same magnitude women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:02 AM
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The thing is all most women have to be to be considered a viably partner for somebody is not be catastrophically overweight. All women have to do to get laid is not be aggressively repulsive. Like don't be overweight, wear dirty clothes be bald and fat and goth and covered in tattoos and behave worse than someone might at an average customer service job. There are tons of women out there who refuse to meet very low standards then blame men for not desiring them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:06 AM
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AlwaysOver found the inkpot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:44 AM
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Sounds too butthurt to be a woman tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 04:30 AM
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well the logical endpoint of that perspective is "men bad" so that must be the right perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 03:50 AM
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Not only are we a long way from the kind of sophisticated brain/computer interface able to completely replicate the sensation of something as nerve dense as genitalia Doubtful. ML is incredibly powerful these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:44 PM
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GPT3, BAY-BE. https://youtu.be/nnuSQvoroJo?t=264 People underestimate AI. I remember talking to a dude that is a neuroscientist, and I was explaining to him that fairly soon we'll be able to use BCI and neural networks to talk to animals and read minds. He looked at me like I was crazy. The writing is on the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 10:37 PM
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Men paying to facilitate a woman's lifestyle in exchange for sex. Don't look at or talk to women on the street or in public. Date a woman ugly or enough so that she 'enthusiastically' reciprocates interest. Women are the sole shareholders of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 11:45 PM
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Hmm. I think a lot of the RP conversations on this sub mostly revolve around the reality that men and women are not the same, women have changed to be more masculine, and men should not have to change to desire women that are more masculine. Meanwhile men are still expected to do a ton of heavy lifting and emotional labor when it comes to initiating relationships and keep conforming to masculine gender roles. On top of that, at any stage of approaching and escalating there can be steep consequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:48 PM
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Well, not really. Your sexual market value is not the same as your relationship market value. So a woman can have high SMV and low RMV. Some have high SMV and RMV. I think most men are low SMV high RMV. And I think a lot of the conversations in this sub are about people trying to understand what drives these two values in which direction, not necessarily explaining anything happening in their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:11 PM
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hence why patriachal society(ies) exist. You're just kind of throwing assertions out there as fact while it would be entirely valid to say societies everywhere give women intrinsic value because one high value alpha can reproduce with many women while one high value woman cannot reproduce with many men. The entirety of society revolves around protecting women, because society gives them inherent value while men have to earn it. Where does resentment fit into the picture? Your entire post you mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:10 PM
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Explain how it's simple?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 11:47 AM
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Everything on this sub is cringe even a significant number of my posts describing dating. People are more complex than all the posts in this sub make them out to be but the dating market needs to be explained somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 11:13 AM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:42 AM
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Err. You misread that. It would be blue pilled to say that it was the most valuable thing that a man could receive. What he's saying is vagina is the most valuable thing a woman can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:41 AM
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However hard you assert that men aren't experiencing certain things doesn't make it true. Women absolutely get visibly disappointed when a man they want to pursue stops applying pressure and listens to a 'no' regardless of whatever you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:35 AM
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He's right it's fairly common
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:32 AM
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Not as in a random dusty man raping her. So you're implying women fantasize about being raped, but the man that's raping them has to psychically predict whether or not the woman wants him in particular to rape her? So you're saying women want psychic rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:30 AM
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It's not a game. No means no. This is actually the reason men resent women. No means no, sometimes. Othertimes it means 'chase me.' And when a man messed up in pursuing the right way the consequences are steep. For women there are no consequences for messing up and they don't have to lift a finger when it comes to interacting with men or finding a boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:29 AM
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cancer aids and alphanumeric hepatitis all rolled into one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:26 AM
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But you're positing the idea that men simply resent women because men want sex which boosts female SMV. Women's SMV being elevated and men being expected to pursue is arguably what enables hypergamy. That's not really what was being discussed though, was it? Men aren't being hypocritical by being promiscuous and not wanting to date women that are promiscuous seriously because it's women that desire men that are preselected by other women or are promiscuous. So that literally doesn't fit the defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 01:38 AM
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Virginity wasn't mentioned but what you're implying is that male desires are leading them to be resentful of women, as if men suddenly changed, causing all of the problems in dating. What you're missing is that Cosmopolitan writers lied to women in order to condition them into a lifestyle and ultimately better sell things to them over a lifetime as an isolated individual. KS has said it repeatedly, but I was skeptical until I watched this interview where a Cosmo writer adamantly admits it, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:05 AM
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You're assuming they're feeling that way because they want an innocent virgin that's only a "slut" for them, when there's no real evidence that men over the past 50 years have changed to want more virginal women, and there's a ton of evidence to suggest women have become free to climb male hierarchies then exclude men that aren't 'on the same level as them' in those hierarchies, while simultaneously refusing to behave in ways that men traditionally desire, being obese, promiscuous, refusing to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 10:28 PM
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And predictable. Like the other poster, all 30+ women have 60+ partners, diseases, single mom, and are hateful. Convenient. That's really not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that's more likely to be true of those women, not that it's always true. Women think that men should find the same things women find desireable in men desireable in women, which doesn't make any sense. And you're trying to demonize men for not wanting to be women. It's silly. I don't want a girlfriend who had an STD ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:44 PM
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I'm not actually trying to prove anything. What I was saying was that it's totally valid for men to not want women that are older, more promiscuous, obese, etc. Men tend to want younger women because women are hypergamous, not because younger women are inherently better. As a result of female hypergamy their promiscuity isn't really the same as male promiscuity at all, and it damages their ability to be viable partners to someone that's actually at an equal or similar stage in life. You can see …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:16 PM
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Women kind of did ruin the dating market, though. Men haven't really changed at all. Women changed. If anything, men have changed only as far as being less shaming or caring about what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:02 PM
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they are super cringe terms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:19 AM
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Women want the same things men do, and then some. Women also want sex. They just get it for free, so they want relationships, affection and attention. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:18 AM
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Maybe. But what a lot of men discover works in getting abundant experiences with women are the least positive traits of masculinity, ...and that's kind of what we're all talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:16 AM
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chicks with dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:01 AM
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That wasn't really the point. The point was that there are lots of women in their late 20's, 30's that made poor choices as far as partners 'doing dumb shit' when they were young, then realize they want a 'nice guy' to take care of them and marry them eventually. And he'll have to put way more effort into a relationship than everyone else did to get a fraction of the affection they got.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:00 AM
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I think men sometimes resent women because in order to be successful with them it's often the worst attributes of male behavior that get you the most success. While being kind, friendly and caring, not even a doormat or a simp, just someone that tries to be good to other people, will tank your chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:50 AM
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Err. That's bullshit. This is a more accurate reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjpihAGVY6s Female promiscuity and male promiscuity aren't the same. Men have to practice, train, and perform in order to be desired for sex. All women have to do is not proactively be repulsive. The end result of this is any woman can be promiscuous with dozens or hundreds of men while most men labor very hard to get a sliver of that. So a woman can easily spend 15 years hooking up with 'assholes' and 'fuckboy…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:46 AM
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so all woman ever then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:35 AM
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oh shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 03:59 AM
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I've had a lot of women IRL tell me they think it's average.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:56 AM
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Do you go to locker rooms and just stare at dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 01:47 AM
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I bet that's true, but it's not just that. But women really don't understand that whether or not you're percieved to be harassing is a relationship with how attractive a woman perceives you to be before you open your mouth. You don't have to actually say anything to a woman to be considered harassing or predatory or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:24 PM
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here's a funny video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U4Ha9HQvMo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:16 PM
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Believe it or not, I really don't need you to explain female behavior to me while trying to pretend that men do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 06:29 PM
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TRP is scary accurate about female nature (want what you can’t have, if she wants to bang you you’ll know, she’ll resent you if you put her on a pedestal, she’ll resent you for showing emotions, you can’t buy attraction with being nice, etc)... but TRP community is toxic as hell so I just take what I know to be true and disregard all the other LARPing BS I agree with a lot of this. I don't really follow TRP or incel content(i know you didn't mention incels) but a lot of what they say are super a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:41 PM
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Treating women with neglect and being a fuckboy...And then I realized that women react so positively to being discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:36 PM
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You’re not getting a whole lot of second helping takers are you? Literally only once but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:23 PM
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And when your wife has her own you have even more and can retire earlier if you play your cards right. Uh, wrong. When your wife has her own you're getting divorced. A woman's income outpacing her partner's is the strongest indicator of an impending divorce. Most women that out earn their partner expect him to not compensate with house chores, but to become more ambitious and earn more. Maybe things are changing, but the fact that society is 'changing' means there's possibly a huge portion of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 12:30 AM
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You keep repeating yourself, but not understanding that a woman that makes a lot of money doesn't really do anything for men because wealth, status, power etc are what men are already expected to bring to the table for women and their families. Men don't become feminine, protect their virginity, put on makeup and act feminine, then demand women that are doing the same. The things you're claiming women are 'bringing to the table' they're just bringing for thesmelves then demanding more from men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 12:05 AM
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I think we should just start covering women in cheese
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:58 PM
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But women also understand if a man does absolutely nothing to get feedback during sex there’s never gonna be a second or third time. We're talking about casual sex here. Some women will never say what they want, fake an orgasm and ghost, because they think g-spots are fake and men that aim for them are living in the dark ages. It’s a lot more work to constantly have to meet game coordinate and get new women into bed. It's not. That's the easiest way to get it unless women think you're hot to beg…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:26 PM
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And if it were arbitrary, getting different women would be the exact fucking opposite of what you’d want to do, because every woman would be so different that you’d have to re-learn every time. Because what works is not caring about women and practicing seducing them to the point where they are replaceable, not trying to form a genuine friendship and connection with a particular dinner, pay for her dates, in order to get sex, which btw, she also wants, is likely getting from another man in excha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 07:13 PM
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But that's what women expect. The sheer discrepancy between the two posts above is why men call women solipsists. What they believe is appropriate is totally arbitrary, but they think should be law.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:40 PM
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Wow a reasonable person that's telling me I shouldn't be put on a terrorist watch list for not wanting to eat pussy. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:39 PM
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Sure, some women like that, but as the two posters above illustrated, it's totally arbitrary what they like, even down to a physiological level. The best way for a man to be sexually successful is learn how to get women repeatedly, not try to please a particular woman, then not care too much about their pleasure so long as there isn't pain they're having a good time. Do you think there's any real benefit to caring about what makes u/Full_Cod_539 cum? What if you're wrong and she decides you're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:33 PM
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but it's not worth risking bad/painful sex. Yeah, that's one of the things you really have to watch out for...I've never been with someone that said it was painful. That sounds awful. Still not eating pussy, though. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:17 PM
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A man and a woman's orgasm aren't symmetrical. Why does everyone pretend they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:16 PM
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It's simply that there's no point in caring that much about getting a woman off that you're having a ONS with or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:06 PM
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Exactly. If you let them know you can move on they'll actually put effort into pleasing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:04 PM
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Used to care. Realize there's no point. It's better to be able to catch new fish than keep the same fish unless she's worth building with outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:03 PM
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Imagine...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:59 PM
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Every woman is different and many women refuse to participate in sharing with men what gets them off. The man has to have incredible stamina and magically figure out what she's into because this one particular woman thinks g spots are fake while another woman insists they're real. And this is actually what a lot of dating is like for men, because they're the ones that constantly have to initiate and escalate, while one woman says doing it X way is bad and the guy doing it is an asshole and needs…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:58 PM
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That’s literally not what a patriarchy is. That literally is what it is. Women ultimately pick the men who they chose to reproduce with even if there is no marriage involved. Women demand more because they now have more themselves. Women always demand more because they're hypergamous. So they expect to earn 100k then marry a man that's making 150k. Meanwhile feminism has liberated women to not need to conform to beauty standards that men have traditionally desired. Women want to be extremely pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 05:38 PM
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Everything you just said is bullshit: You can get that with any neurotypical, emotional stable guy who is into you all the woman has to do is reciprocate. With this being the case other stuff with start to matter to women when choosing a partner. Men have to bring a lot to the table because whatever women get for free becomes the new baseline and they demand more. That's it. They get attention and demand men perform emotional labor and generate wealth in exchange for something women also want, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 06:55 AM
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I would assume the normal bullshit like losing friends or not being invited to social gatherings then finding out it's because of a boyfriend the group doesn't approve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 06:27 AM
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Women will ostracize them and stop inviting them to gatherings if their boyfriend isn't up to par? I don't know what the penalties are, I've only had women tell me that there's a lot of pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 05:12 AM
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It's entirely about women being given inherent value. Otherwise they wouldn't expect commitment in return for sex and the value of a woman wouldn't decline as she approached her mid 30's, where her ability to reproduce becomes increasingly compromised. People would simply be enjoying sex with one another, and there would be no such thing as a gold digger. Also don't compare a man's orgasm to a woman's they're not the same at all. If they were, women would also ejaculate when orgasming or have so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:43 PM
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If women are raising the bar by being educated and gainfully employed Women consider it raising the bar by bringing to the table what men already bring to the table, then expecting they can find a boyfriend that's not only high earning, but immediately sexually attractive, too. A woman's income is something that men have never cared about, but women want men to care about, so women are simply eliminating a large portion of men from the dating pool by 'raising the bar' so that men can't reach it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:34 PM
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Women tell each other they can have everything, homestly. That's the pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:29 PM
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It's 200% like that in tech. Get a job. Make 100k. Never get a raise. Go somewhere else in 8 months. Make 120k. Never get a raise. Go somewehere else...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:49 PM
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Wow. I wonder what the effects of a society transitioning to the point where men need work in order to mate but women don't will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:45 PM
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Most women don't get jobs to attain men, just like how most men don't get jobs to attain women. Wrong? Patriarchy is a hierarchy that men must compete in in order for women to determine which men are worth reproducing with. So yeah, men have to get jobs, or status, or power. Do women have to do that? No. And what happens when they do? They leave a man if he falls behind her. And you're acting like 50% of women that are married and get cancer are divorced by their husbands. People who are dying f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 07:39 PM
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yaaas kahweeeen
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:06 AM
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yeah who cares about that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:43 AM
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I wasn't trying to be rude, btw. I was dead serious. Guys will be salty because of the extreme amount of effort they sometimes must put in to get mediocre returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:46 PM
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Or crazy thought, they are passionate about their work and want a career that allows them to be self sufficient. Unlikely. Women for the most part, are historically unhappy as a result of replacing family life with careers. Very many women thought they could climb hierarchies set up by women for men to climb, then leverage those resources to get a man that's even higher up the hierarchy than where they are. They don't become nurses so they can date plumbers or janitors, or else there would be tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 09:27 PM
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They really aren't the same at all. When a man has sex with a woman the woman is also getting sex. It's just that society gives inherent value to women's bodies so when they have sex they also feel entitled to be compensated on top of that sex. So in order for women to determine which man is best deserving of sex, women designed this hierarchy called 'the patriarchy' that men have to spend years competing in in order to get sex. Alternatively, you can just have a good looking face and spend all …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:55 AM
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It...doesn't exist for the same reasons. Men have to work really hard to get the gold to be dug. Women really don't have to do much in order to spend their 20's chasing and complaining about fuckboys, then spend their 30's 'settling down.' That's why men don't want those women. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjpihAGVY6s Women themselves telling you they ignored guys that respected them in favor of guys that didn't. So women will set the bar unreasonably high for average men while men that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 05:05 AM
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The same is really true of below average looking women. I've dated a bunch. They're still shitty, hypergamous and have expectations of men they can't meet themselves or can't qualify for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:31 AM
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usually said something disgusting to me when we matched or sent dick pics or just generally put no effort into the convo until I unmatch. Considering my experience on OLD this kind of behavior makes all the sense in the world, although I've never sent a dick pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:29 AM
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The absolute best way to get women is to treat them like they're disposable tbh. Treating them kindly doesn't do anything as far as forming a connection with them and building up to intimacy unless they already wanted sex to begin with. In fact, acting that way can turn women off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:28 AM
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Maybe you have mediocre vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:15 AM
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When you think about it logically, it makes a lot of sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:13 AM
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It's a consequence of men having to bring more to the table than just themselves while women think saying 'i am the table' is valid. That's what make women so disposable. Women think men are disposable because men give them free sexual attention. But women also want sex. So they should be giving men equally free sexual attention. But they withhold it from men that are not just average, but average relative to the men they're getting attention from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 03:10 AM
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It's just garbage level advice. 'Your smile sucks.'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:14 AM
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Reminds me of this 'experiment' where a woman tried tinder as a dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:11 AM
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It's always creeped me out how much women care about my height too tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 02:07 AM
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imagine making this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 01:41 AM
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We know. Women get sex and emotional labor for free. So instead of actually trying to form real connections with people based on shared experiences they spend years chasing fuckboys while treating men that respect them like garbage. That's why TRP exists, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:42 AM
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Sounds like BS. A lot of the men that I know that are RP are RP because they genuinely believed in a lot of what feminists had to say only to find out that women only apply those rules and extraordinary standards of consent to men who aren't attractive or weren't preselected by other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 12:23 AM
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A lot of women are pissed that they can't make 100k then get a boyfriend that makes 150k or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:19 PM
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Like I've said before on this sub, even if men opt out of toxic masculinity or climbing patriarchal hierarchies it's still women that are picking winners and losers. Even below average looking rad feminists are picking winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:14 PM
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Wow you're right its one or the other irl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 07:08 AM
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Imagine wanting to date a business partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:16 PM
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The 9 who is also UMC will likely treat him worse or try to level up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:15 PM
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Women select for men around their level. That's why 'get on my level' or 'level up' is a typical female thing to say. Working really hard and studying to be a nurse is what women do to be in proximity to male doctors. There may be a floor men won't go below but that floor is a few flights down. For women that floor is their level or higher, with the exception of men that they perceive to be ambitious and eventually take the lead as primary provider. Most people do this. Mmmm. No, most people rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 09:10 PM
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I'm just trying to explain to you that the entire reason wealth status and power are valuable is women select for men that have those things. Men don't select for men that have those things. Women don't select for women that have those things. Men don't select for women that have those things. Women select for men that have those things. You're confused because you, yourself are using this analogy: You wouldn't tell a man to stop working out so he can have a wider range of women and you wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 06:20 PM
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I've met a decent number of obese women that are picky about dating slightly overweight men because they have a rotation of guys that spend all their day at the gym sleeping with them. So the analogy isn't really accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:34 PM
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What was even the point of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 05:33 PM
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Women are out earning men, I wonder if that has anything to do with why they are historically unhappy? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 03:56 AM
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Wow, so you think men are picking women on Tinder based on their education level?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 11:11 PM
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The entire reason there's a problem is women with your mentality are the problem. You want a man to make at least what you're making. And then you compete with men around you and exclude them based on your ever increasing income because there's always a better option out there. Then you say 'men are trash, i don't want to settle, I'd rather die alone.' It's like if men started losing weight and muscle mass, became super feminine, put on makeup and held on to their virginity for as long as possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:45 PM
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Men have tp be phds to get sex then and women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:36 PM
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Errr, men really don't care. The degree to which we don't care is pretty extreme. Women think men care because women care about male achievements (that's why patriarchy exists and women will ask a man his job to assess for income before asking his name), and because they don't actually care what men want. They care what they want. And they want men to care about what they think men should want while not providing anything that men actually want. Men don't care about your effing phds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:34 PM
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You yourself said you would not be willing to stay with a man that couldn't afford half of whatever arbitrarily expensive bullshit you wanted to spend money on. So your husband is constantly going to have to keep up with whatever you're earning. Nobody wants to work a full time job then come home to another full time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:26 PM
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I am into money. I make a lot because I value what money does for me. Not everyone values money the way I do. I won't date/marry FOR money, I just make it myself, but I also won't be compatible with a guy that can't afford to fly to New Zealand with me for a few weeks or can't afford half of a montessori education for our spawn or whatever. And that's the problem with modern dating in general. Women have always expected men to bring wealth to the table. So to even be considered you need to bring…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:14 PM
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But aren't you also kind of a bimbo? You, like most women, have a floor to the amount of money you'll allow your partner to make. And for most women that floor is higher than what they themselves earn. So it really doesn't make any sense to shame a man for not wanting a high achieving woman when she herself says that she wouldn't want a partner that's not able to spend money on expensive vacations or expensive private schooling for their children. Because anything can change, right? What happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 10:13 PM
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Literally everything women do is either to give me personally a boner or not so I can’t fathom this? That's not really accurate. Women get degrees then think they can exclude men that don't have degrees or have blue collar jobs. Women get masters or PhD's then exclude men that don't have PhD's. Seen it first hand multiple times. My ex who dumped a boyfriend every time she graduated keeps asking me about my job/career path, because my career makes as much as doctors or more. In fact, way more if …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 09:08 PM
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Imagine if he was short and had a weak chin
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:54 PM
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Who cares? Women ask men what they do for a living before asking them what their name is all the time. Women don't have meaning to men outside of sex. It's not the fault of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:21 PM
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They hide them from women, because women reject men who show them. Women act like men own and run patriarchy. In reality if men are the executives of patrarichy women are the shareholders.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 07:05 PM
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dude stfu
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:40 PM
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Well then maybe that is something men should get to together and change about male culture. It has nothing to do with male culture and everything to do with how women select winners sand losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:31 PM
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In the future if you express emotions as a man women will report you to the CIA and you'll be met with a drone strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:29 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/llzgob/how_sympathetic_are_men_to_womens_loneliness/gnty44t?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 This guy is an inkwell terrorist, you should report him to the Incel Hunters Unit at the FBI. Go! Go git em!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:26 PM
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If you don't know me, I'm not asking-- I don't care. And we're not talking about female friends, we're talking about people just meeting. Women evaluate men based on whether they're suitable to be someone of use when first meeting. Men aren't being treated like 'people' either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 06:18 PM
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Dead bedrooms happen for all sorts of reasons, but it starts with men treating women poorly or inequitably. It happens after pregnancy and has no correlation with abuse. Most women stop having sex after pregnancy for some period of time, 60% of women that have children stop having sex entirely. Your refusal to hold men accountable for any sort of negative action Women offer men pretty much nothing in a relationship other than sex and child birth. That doesn't mean that's all women are good for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:52 AM
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Men probably cheat more because women stop having sex after marriage 80% of the time. The women aren't being abused. They simply don't care what men want from romantic relationships and completely neglect men's needs, which are basically feminine support and intimacy. Women really don't care about men's needs then wonder why they get mistreated in relationships. The idea that it's the men being abusive is comical to anyone that actually examines the details.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:05 AM
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thats on him, not her. But women initiate 80% of divorces. :( Dunno what you think I'm saying is skewed and not backed up by reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:42 AM
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Men really don't get treated like human beings by woman at all. If a woman bothers to stop and talk to a man she'll ask him what he does for work before caring to ask his name. Women also treat men like sex objects, but it's a very, very small minority of men that get treated like that by all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:44 AM
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I don't give a shit if my partner makes less than I do. You in particular caring doesn't change the fact that the single greatest predictor of whether or not a divorce is imminent is whether or not a woman got a raise or a promotion. Times really aren't changing. Even among women that claim to be genderqueer or non-traditional. If someone dropped a big giant bomb on patriarchy tomorrow, the day after women would be desperately trying to reinstitute it or turn into lesbians. The patriarchy is a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 03:42 AM
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Don't just match with women that never expressed interest in that and then be gross. Women aren't offering anything else. Women have to be able to provide men with more than that for them to want that. If you don't get that, go be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:22 AM
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Succinct. Can you explain that to this clown u/alwaysonalongtrip
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:03 AM
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Why don't you go be gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 02:00 AM
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Women are starting to break free of it and not put up with it anymore. No, it doesn't. It exists because women select for 'successful men'. We don't judge male success by comparing them to women we judge them by comparing them to other men. Men cant meet our standards because theyre forcing each other into toxic emotional mindsets Oh my god. It's because women are outearning men and won't select men that make less than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:59 AM
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Women are seeking companionship and sex. It's just that they get sex for free so they want more. It's like someone came to your door every day and gave you chocolate, so you went on social media to complain about not getting chocolate and a teddy bear and got mad when the replies said 'YOU'RE GETTING FREE CHOCOLATE?'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:32 AM
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The entire reason there's a 'toxic patriarchy hierarchy' that doesn't give a shit about men is that's what women select for. Otherwise women would all be sleeping with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:29 AM
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Almost every time a strange man has been nice to me, or I to him, he tried to stick his dick in me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:28 AM
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Women select for a very narrow selection of men that are psychic rapists. It really isn't our fault. It's the fault of heterosexual women. Men can reject patriarchy and the need to be competitive/dominant over other men and guess what? No women would select those men because those women would rather date other women. Those men wouldn't reproduce. So whose fault is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:16 AM
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So you're basically communicating like a gay woman on the autism spectrum struggling to understand what men actually go through when interacting with heterosexual women then judging men for being the way they are. Or maybe you're just 11 or something and haven't reached puberty, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 01:01 AM
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What job do you think they are on? Women don't select to work anywhere that it is likely you will die on the job. They don't die during labor, they are murdered. I agree men are being murdered by the patriarchal hierarchy that women force them to compete in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:34 AM
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You're the one saying 77% of women experience violence during porn as if 90% of women don't want to be choked during sex. Great contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:16 AM
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The only time women are nice or personable is when they're stopping you on the street to sell you something or performing a customer service role. That's what most men experience, and then women expect men to be sympathetic because the only men that are nice to them only want sex. The only women that are nice to men only want money. At least when a woman has sex she still has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:13 AM
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Who cares? Men die on the job all the time. I guess we've discovered that humans are prone to dying during labor, right? Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:09 AM
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Women are given value by virtue of existing. Men have to climb a hierarchy that women have determined in order to be given value to society. Women don't have to climb that hierarchy, because that's not how the people selecting women determine the value of a woman. The entire reason there are male hierarchies is women create them because that's what they select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:07 AM
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I think you're quite mentally unfit. You should go checkout r/TwoXChromosomes or r/TrollXChromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:45 PM
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Not sure how that's observable or relevant. In a world where all men choose not to participate in patriarchy women would still select winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:44 PM
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Few men are nice to women just to be decent. 0 women are nice to men for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:37 PM
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You need therapy, sweaty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:35 PM
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That's why this question of empathy is so asinine. Empathy is only unidirectional.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 11:22 PM
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It should just be something the man says or presents to a court some time after being informed that a child is on the way or present. No one should have rights to child support outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:29 PM
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Because there are plenty of degenerates (I personally know many, including boyfriend of my sister) who would say they want a child either to get sex or just to impregnate People should only be having kids inside of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:05 PM
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If the man and the woman were both held responsible the woman would have to accept responsibility when a man didn't want to be a father to a child, but was forced into it by a woman that lied about being on birth control. So it really doesn't matter if there's allegedly a law about preventing predatory women from enslaving men, it's not something that's enforced. oh you consider stealthing rape? You're shocked that someone might be consistent in their beliefs? What people consent to is what shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 08:10 PM
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Imagine thinking we're debating whether not a guy only wanting 16 year olds is a pedophile when the definition of pedophile excludes wanting 16 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:56 PM
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Uh, I'm way beyond explaining to women that they're in favor of banning abortions. Anyone that's reading your arguments would come to the conclusion that if men don't really need the right to financially abort women don't need the right to have actual abortions. And it really has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do your inability to acknowledge that people that don't want to be parents shouldn't have to be parents. when science innovates a way for men to get pregnant Right, when scien…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 05:21 PM
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luckily, the court is required to determine paternity through DNA test before the child’s father has any rights or financial responsibilities to the child. Not true. Men can be made to pay child support if they were in the process of divorcing a woman but she had a child by someone else before the divorce was complete. I'm confused, what child? How are you confused? If there's no child at conception and it doesn't matter what the father says, it shouldn't matter that the mother wants to keep the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:50 PM
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Yeah, talking to you is a waste of time. Gonna go talk to my sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:45 PM
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Men can be forced to pay for a child that isn't theirs, or to lose a child that they wanted to keep. Or men can be forced to parent a child after a woman lied about being on birth control. It's about protecting men from predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:57 AM
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That's not actually congruent and it can never be, because men don't get a say in whether or not their child gets born. A woman always has a say. Men and women aren't equal and we should stop trying to make them equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:53 AM
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And you are free to not fuck around in order to avoid knocking someone up It's so telling that when women are confronted with an idea suggesting abortion be banned they double down rather than providing a reason it should exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:41 AM
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I agree with this. Forcing women to have abortions or not have abortions is pretty evil. But men need to have the right to protect themselves from predatory women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:35 AM
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You're making an excellent argument for banning abortions entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:28 AM
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The thing is men can't get abortions but they can be forced to be the father of children they never wanted by women that lied about being on birth control. A man can even be forced to pay for a child that isn't his if he's married but separated and his soon-to-be ex wife got pregnant by someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:26 AM
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or was a man who knew the risks also involved? Exactly? So why should a woman have extra abortion rights? They know the risks of getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:18 AM
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You know what the definition of that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:16 AM
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Then why is that same rationale used when a man wants to have a financial/paper abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:15 AM
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He should also not be held financially involved if his say doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:13 AM
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It really doesn't make that much sense that women should be owed child support outside of marriage. I mean, if a woman anticipated that a man might leave her if she got pregnant she would have waited for him to marry her before getting pregnant. Otherwise it just appears that the woman is using the child to siphon financial resources from a man. She's a deadbeat mom. Also, how is it reasonable that a woman can abort a child that a man wants but a man has to raise a child that a woman wants? END …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:12 AM
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I'm not saying dating 18 year olds make sense. I'm just saying wanting to date even 16 year olds doesn't make someone a pedophile because that's not actually what that means. Probably means they should reevaluate their lives, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 07:06 AM
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Eh. I disagree. The reason men like women that are younger is older women tend to obliterate their RMV trying to leverage their SMV in hypergamous ways. But when a guy says he only wants women out of highschool he probably means he wants a virgin or something, which has always been weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:51 AM
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I think it's morally shady to allow men to veto abortions, but men should be able to decline being a father at any time before the abortion period expires, just by saying it to the woman on record.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:20 AM
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Yeah, some people make too much of TRP. It's not like PUA, which is kinda repulsive imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:18 AM
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Just do a 360 and sprint through his body in half like The Juggernaut.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:12 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised. Most of them give pretty good advice, even the goofballs. But occasionally you'll get guys saying the only viable women are 18 which, I mean. Your life has to be a trainwreck if the only women you can date are 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 06:07 AM
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Hypergamy originates from the reality that a woman's vagina is given intrinsic value because 1 high value man can impregnate endless low value women. A guy that's an equal has to pay for dates, perform emotional labor, and invest his time before he gets the only thing she's really able to give that other people can't, sex. A guy that is better looking than her only has to have sex. Doesn't even have to eat pussy, I promise you that. Where hypergamy comes in is when women think they can leverage …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:24 AM
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I mean, this is what my experience talking to women that are feminists. My own personal experience is ignored, but I'm supposed to accept you saying I'm somehow expendable and I'm not masculine, while completely ignoring what I want out of a relationship? All I said is that women cannot provide anything to relationships that a man can't get from other relationships, so the things women can provide must not be available to everyone on demand. i.e a woman shouldn't be extremely promiscuous, and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:11 AM
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Well, yeah. It doesn't increase a woman's status or wealth by having sex with a guy that's an 8 in terms of looks. Being treated differently isn't some amorphous idea. Women expect additional attention, emotional labor, financial input from a guy that's not at the top. That's where the hypergamy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 01:36 AM
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But that's not hypergamy. Female hypergamy is what drives women to expect that a guy that's a 5 should have to give her additional time and attention, and romance and pay for dates when a guy that's an 8 shouldn't have to. So women will leverage the fact that society gives their vaginas intrinsic value and trade that in for a guy they deem sexually attractive enough. A guy that looks identical to her, is her height, has her income, etc, has to subsidize her, and he gets nothing out of it other t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 10:40 PM
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Hypergamy has nothing to do with looks or sex or anything like that, or even 'gold digging.' It's dating or marrying someone with higher wealth power or social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:22 PM
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Hypergamy has nothing to do with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:21 PM
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Funny but retarded. Hypergamy exists because women desire men with money status and power. When a woman has those things, what does she chase after? Men that have more while excluding those that have less. Men want younger women because as women age they tend to destroy everything that makes a person a valuable partner. So marrying someone that's younger isn't adding any kind of status or power to your life. It's just all that's left. A 35 year old woman with a PHD that's been sleeping around fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 06:20 PM
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Hooked up with a decent amount of hot women dated only a few long term mostly dated average/below average looking women out of choice. But all women are like that, even ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:30 AM
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Sure for some women. A good reputation won't help you when your wife gets bored and leaves. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:29 AM
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30 is too high for a woman that's 30. 15 is the max I'm open to dating long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 01:28 AM
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Just because you have female friends that are into that DOES NOT mean that you aren’t overestimating female promiscuity. I can also argue that I have friends that aren’t into that sort of thing. Does that give me the right to claim that all or most women are doing that? No. Your anecdotes mean what exactly? I'm a man interested in finding a female partner. So what I perceive matters. You're the one that needs to convince men that promiscuity doesn't matter, while men are the ones explaining to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:01 PM
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This idea seems to be fueled by male insecurities. It's not really fair to say it's just an insecurity. Most men don't want virgins. They simply don't want women who are promiscuous and cheap. Why would someone pay 50k for a used car that cost 20k new for someone else? Doesn't make sense. People aren't cars, but the value of a person doesn't increase over time, except for men because women give men that value over time. I'm not overestimating female promiscuity, either. I've had a good deal of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:44 AM
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Pfft. Well you can go on believing that women dictate your life as a man, but I personally am not going to. Wow, great idea. You go get a woman that's a -.5 in terms of looks pregnant and see if the state gives a fuck if you're a 10. The funny thing about this type of viewpoint is that you could just as easily flip it and suddenly the man is more valuable because he can impregnate more women instead of being limited to one every 9 months. Men have to earn that value or be comfortable not having …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:29 AM
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I presented extremes so that we understand which portion of the axis is negative and which portion of the axis is a positive. Women aren't necessarily claiming to be virgins but they seriously downplay their promiscuity and leave out sometimes a decade of casual, non-stop sexual activity, trying to give men the impression they were celibate for some period of time. Still the way you talk about men “paying” for sex when dating is ridiculous and women are right to leave these kind of men out in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 02:20 AM
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So what? Is that automatically supposed to apply value? Yes, exactly. Men do not get that value because their sperm is abundant and not discriminatory. They have to earn that value by climbing the hierarchy that women determine the bounds of. Again, nobody is given any inherent value unless they're attractive. That's probably the only form of inherent value that exists. If you have a village full of women all ranked 1-10, in a village with just one man that's a 10, the women automatically gain v…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 01:38 AM
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All women do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L-vGa69pzc https://youtu.be/pZaSi3XTdoI?t=117 Give sex to man A for free, then expect man B to want to wait for 5 dates, give her lots of attention, money, clothing, and potentially not get sex. When the roles are reversed and the woman is presented the idea that she pays for dates and probably won't get sex, what does she say? She wouldn't put up with that. And the only reason she wouldn't put up with that is women also want to have sex. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 01:29 AM
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Same goes for a valuable woman. What's your point? A valuable woman cannot immediately reproduce with 1000 different men at one time, if every in her life time. One valuable man can that's why your entire reply is bullshit. Men aren't given any inherent default value, they have to earn it through climbing a hierarchy. All women have to do is not destroy their own value over time and capitalize on it as soon as they reasonably can. ​ Nobody really decides that. If a woman is too promiscuous or us…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 01:07 AM
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They're given value by default if they can reproduce, not based on how attractive they are. A woman that's a 5 does not have the same value to society as a man that's a 5. One valuable man can reproduce with thousands of women regardless if they're a 1 or a 10. If a guy that's a 1 tries to reproduce with a woman that's a 10 he'll have a SWAT team with claymore mines taped to their faces trying to tackle him. Women lose value by becoming old (it would be the same for men if women didn't seek out …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 09:43 PM
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The entire reason there's patriarchy is men need to climb a hierarchy to be deemed valuable to society. Women do not need to climb a hierarchy because they are given value by society by default. That's why they feel as though they can charge for access to their genitals whereas most men can't. Patriarchy is just the hierarchy that men must climb in order to be deemed valuable to society and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:50 PM
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You're missing the point entirely. The reason men won't wife promiscuous women is women themselves and the fact that women put a price on their vaginas, and give men different prices for the same thing. X man pays 0 dollars while Y man pays 600. I listened to a woman the other day who thought she could get a guy to pay 5000 for her vagina, 60 times the cost of a full time escort and this woman was below average. If average women were having sex with average men and all men had to do was not be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:06 PM
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You wouldn't keep bringing up moralizing if you weren't trying to assign any kind of morality to behaviors that have none by calling them exploitative. There's nothing exploitative about TRP. Men want to have sex and women want to have sex. It's just that women expect certain men to pay for it with money, time investment or emotional energy, while other men get it for free. Here is a woman explaining to you why TRP has no morality and is not exploitative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=108 Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 09:01 PM
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Which shouldn’t be compared considering there are different expectations for both. And it’s not just women with those expectations. It is just women with those expectations. A man in an LTR gets the same thing as a man having casual sex except has to provide his life's worth of labor. That's why TRP comes off as misogynist to women. Women don't realize how much they get for free. When men decide not to play by broken rules that only benefit one side call it misogyny. Women will happily call a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 08:31 PM
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Uh, whatever lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:53 PM
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I did. The root of your problem is you can't distinguish between amoral behavior and immoral behavior. They actually mean completely different things. It's not even close, to be honest. So what you're doing absolutely is moralizing something that's completely amoral. https://youtu.be/pZaSi3XTdoI?t=108 Women don't want to be in the position of men because they know the status quo is very bad. Men want sex, women want sex, but women want most men to pay for it somehow while men that are attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:51 PM
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To say TRP is full of misogynistic rhetoric is like saying Wallstreetbets is full of hatespeech because they want to do exactly what Wall Street has been doing to the economy to Wall Street. My point exactly: https://youtu.be/pZaSi3XTdoI?t=108 It's not perceived to be wrong for women to lead men on, have men entertain them for a dozen dates only for the man to get nothing in return. It's just a norm. One guy might get a 0 dollar entry fee. The other guy will continually have to invest emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:50 PM
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You're right, there's nothing wrong with women wanting to avoid them but it's totally fair to assume those women are predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:41 PM
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Except they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:31 PM
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Many women would say most men are rapists and to listen to your 'gut' (what they really mean is listen to your pussy') So what's wrong with men observing the ways women are predatory and navigating around that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:30 PM
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Wew. I think this conversation has come to a close.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:29 PM
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You'll never be capable of forming meaningful relationships with women if you keep seeing them as a monolith. See, that's where you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:27 PM
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Lol. Really? You can drink wine, digest it, and drink it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:26 PM
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We need to start acknowledging how predatory the average woman is more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:24 PM
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I was arguing against the idea that it shouldn't be common sense. It should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:16 PM
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Nobody is like a car. Oh, wow. That blew my mind. Can you name me anything that accrues value over time with age and usage?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 07:14 PM
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So women have no value aside from sex, but if they do work towards gaining value, you don't like that? The thing is, men also have no value besides being young, fit, healthy, prolific reproducers. The reason men are so good at going out and gathering wealth is women train them to by sexually selecting for men that can do those things. The car analogy is bullshit because unlike cars, women don't have owners. Sweaty, men are also like cars, except women give them value over time and with experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:40 PM
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GAAAAAAY
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:30 PM
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None of that changes the meaning. Women want men that have more of those things than her effectively elevating her lifestyle. That's the meaning of hypergamy. If you watch interviews with women that have trouble finding men they often say they are comfortable taking a man that makes less than her, as long as he is ambitious and trying to make more. Men don't have that expectation, women do because women perceive themselves to have inherent worth, and society perceives that they have that worth b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:26 PM
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Sure, you couldn't possibly give a man the correct instructions he needs to form meaningful short term or long term relationships with women, but then you judge men that manage to find a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 06:19 PM
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"Women are creatures that live in the present, meaning they are incapable of taking ownership of their past and incapable of iterating and premeditate [..ing] the future consequences of their actions." In my experience that's true, especially in women that think men and women are the same. Just because they want a man they know is promiscuous men should want a woman that's promiscuous, when promiscuity is extremely easy for all kinds of women because all women have to do is not be proactively re…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:41 PM
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Am I a fucking retard? Maybe. Are you a fucking retard? Let's find out. riiiiiiight. refusing to be clear about your intentions, even when asked explicitly, is definitely being honest. lying to get sex is definitely being honest. acting like a completely different person than you really are to get sex is being honest. telling women you have other intentions for them when you intend to pump and dump is being honest for sure. maybe i had the definition of the word “honest” wrong. i will never unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:24 PM
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i’m saying there are men who proclaim to be red pilled and who admit that they lie to women in order to get sex; There are also male feminists that abuse the language of feminism to get sex from women or rape them. Guess we gotta quarntine TwoX and ban every man that shitposts about something his girlfriend did that day. Just because some or even most of the guys advocating for getting sex through pretending to be an ally or feminist doesn't mean none of them are. basically, seems like the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:40 PM
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Right, but the reality of the matter is single mothers don't add any value to a man's life that a woman that's never had a child can't. So, I mean. If a woman with one child is fine to date, how about a woman with 2? How a bout a woman with 4, with 3 different dads? And so on. When you enter a relationship with a single mom you're participating in a half finished relationship that someone else didn't want. And that's made evident by the fact that the woman you're dating will consistently talk ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:30 PM
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that's gay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:25 PM
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TRP isn't really about trying to get sex with women. It's about understanding that women are hypergamous, not chasing women and men understanding they need to do hard work and build things in order to make themselves desirable to women. Even someone like Kevin Samuels who seems really harsh to women is the one warning a lot of women that certain kinds of men are just manipulating them into sex for a long period of time but won't marry them. AMS tells men not to lie to women to get sex. Joker tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 05:38 AM
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RP gives men super powers like being able to call women on their bullshit. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 03:41 AM
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TRP has nothing to do with chasing women or manipulating them into sex. Also, I don't see what you're talking about as far as posts on this sub being about getting women to sleep with you. If it were that would be fine, there's nothing wrong with men wanting women to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:59 AM
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The blackpill is also true if you're short and not physically attractive in the face. It's nearly insurmountable to get the amount of experience and confidence with women necessary to be successful with any of them, especially because men have to approach. Hard to approach and convince a woman to consensually allow a man to escalate when the woman rejects the man based on looks. Blackpill teaches a lot of men that think it's possible to get to know a woman who is average or even below average lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:46 AM
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Maybe it's because women are completely passive in all aspects of forming relationships including having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:53 AM
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Women select for men based on traits they can't change about themselves like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:51 AM
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Oh okay sure
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:29 AM
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Frankly it’s stupid to avoid a person that has bettered themself from their past self. Most normal people understand this, Women kinda are like this from personal experience. They're disgusted by the thought that a man wasn't born able to get women and had to practice. That's why they're disgusted by TRP. If you actually read TRP sub sorted by top there's nothing there about manipulating women. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/top/?t=year
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:29 AM
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Really? This is the top post on TRP: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/f9buqh/the_female_dating_strategy_sub_inadvertently/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:19 AM
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Gay men have experience with gay men, not men interested in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:19 AM
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You're wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/f9buqh/the_female_dating_strategy_sub_inadvertently/ Just like this thread title says.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:17 AM
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I'm saying there's no aspect of TRP that's about manipulating women. It's about men achieving their best selves and not chasing after women because women are very frequently extremely hypergamous without providing anything of value to a man. It's really not that complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:08 AM
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He manipulated women really hard by figuring out how to get them to stop long enough to get to know him and exchange contact info what a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 01:06 AM
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i’ve actually seen more men promote being dishonest about it. Can you highlight any of these posts for me that are about manipulating women into having sex? https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/top/?t=year
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 12:31 AM
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Wow, this guy learned how to approach women from a costco salesman, what a manipulative insecure asshole: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/kr1lfv/theres_a_hidden_supply_of_hot_girls_all_around/ I'm very sensitive to people peddling advice on how to manipulate people, and I've watched a lot of RP channels, Kevin Samuels, AMS, Better Bachelor, Alexander Grace. None of them are about manipulating women, at all. If you disagree, show men any top post on TRP that's about getting women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 12:13 AM
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Never read anything in TRP teaching men to lie to women to get sex, that sounds like more PUA stuff which isn't really TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:48 PM
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Wow, you want to avoid men that don't want to be taken advantage of by women so that you can take advantage of those men. We need to start acknowledging how predatory the average woman is more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:46 PM
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Similar, to how men do not want to get used by women. That's actually a lot of what TRP is about, right? That's why they tell men not to date single moms? I've never read anything in TRP that teaches men how to use women. It's mostly avoiding being used by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:45 PM
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Women present themselves as being feminine and sexually interested in a man in order to get pregnant then stop having sex, all the time, in 60% of all relationships women stop having sex after kids. So I don't know what the fuck you're whining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:42 PM
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TRP says nothing about leading women on. I've seen many prominent RP channels even the guys that seem the saddest and most bitter always tell men to never fake being interested in a relationship just for sex. It's just that women feel they're owed a relationship or money just to have sex with them that leads men to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:39 PM
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Women think 'just be yourself' works because they never had to be anything to get male attention. That's not how life really works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 11:12 PM
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Yes, no shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 10:16 PM
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Isn't this insane? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TastJuDJHRg
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/21 02:54 AM
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That's a huge part of the problem with women not cumming drruing sex. They don't know how to make themselves cum without a jackhammer but they expect a man to do it and will fault him if he can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 08:21 PM
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Wow as if with perfect timing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L-vGa69pzc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 08:20 PM
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Sounds like complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 01:00 AM
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How is that relevant inside an LTR where a woman might lie about being on the pill in order to have a baby a man doesn't want? So a woman can lie about being on the pill and get pregnant without a man's consent and that's not even treated with the same seriousness of a man that stealths a condom, removing it during sex. So you can't get a woman pregnant without her consent, which is logical. But a woman can get pregnant without your consent then hold you accountable. How is that logical? Doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 08:03 PM
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It's not warped. Women react negatively to men opening up to them even if they say its what they want. And it's safest to not share that much information about yourself with any woman because they'll likely overshare with their friends which can harm all of your relationships. Opening up to women you're dating benefits you in absolutely no way. I think you're naive about the ways women communicate and use information about people to their social leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:59 PM
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Nobody is ever owed sex under any circumstances. But you're pretending women don't act like they're owed relationships when someone has sex with them. The idea that men that feel like they're cheated when they pay for a dinner is not men's fault exclusively, and it doesn't mean they're rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:57 PM
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Most women absolutely are like that and they don't really have control over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 05:40 AM
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Well she's going to tell everyone you know you're a bitch probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 05:26 AM
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Yes. Even your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 05:25 AM
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They take more precautions around men they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:05 PM
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if anything they do it more to men they’re not attracted to Right, because they perceive men they're not attracted to to be creepy and want them to go away while men they are attracted to are entitled to their bodies. You completely validated what I said, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:54 PM
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That women think they're owed resources for sex? That's what women say. You're way off the mark here. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:53 PM
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Most women are trying to go to gangbangs at fraternities then projecting that onto all men, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:48 PM
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Well, it's true. That's why the word incel is so popular these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:28 AM
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This is the kind of things that anihilate the reassons for men to support women in social scenarios. Absofuckinglutely. I used to be the kind of guy that would be open to hanging out with a woman that was drunk to keep her safe but that time has long passed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:27 AM
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Come on wtf? The reasons men think they're owed sex for paying for dinner is women think they're owed resources in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:26 AM
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high value men, with self-esteem, and a moral compass, aren't out raping women. They don't need to resort to force to get what they wan I remember that ask a rapist thread where that one super successful college kid bragged about raping women and never getting caught. I wonder if it was a larp
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:25 AM
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I wonder if women are more likely to have this doubt about men they're attracted to than men they're not attracted to. Everything about female sexuality points to certain men being entitled to their bodies while other men being inherently predatory by virtue of existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 01:47 AM
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maybe stranger violence is rare because they spend less time in alleys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 01:45 AM
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Wow, what a meaningful contribution to the conversation. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:48 AM
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Leftist doesn't mean 'womanist' or 'anti-man.' Womanists pushed for 'feminism' under the guise that it was about equal rights. It isn't. You want women to have extra special rights, and men to have no rights as if women are never predatory. There are predatory women everywhere, and men need rights to protect themselves from them. Yet here you are implying women are never predatory because men don't need rights to protect them from predatory women. If women can never be predatory or at the very l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 11:07 PM
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I hope they take away women's reproductive rights because the same reasoning you're using to block men from getting reproductive rights, right wing extremists use against women. So you're on their side. You're just not on their side when it comes to women getting abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 10:32 PM
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No, you didn't. I don't like terrorists and think all of the people involved in the riots should be charged with murder. I'm probably way left of you, but your mentality is the reason criminals like that gain power over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:50 PM
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That's obviously not what I said, but keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:29 PM
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Um, wtf? This stupid bullshit again. You're acting like I'm saying ignore what women say. You know that's not what I said, because you then acknowledge the entire statement. So why the stupid fucking indignation? I don't think women necessarily need to be believed, but they need to be taken seriously. Obviously, if her accusations can be proven, the guy deserves jail time. Sure. Can you reword this? I don't understand what you're trying to say. The desire to use sexuality to coerce men into doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 09:26 PM
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Hey, that's the kind of mentality you breed when you say men should just 'use a condom' and refuse to acknowledge that lots of desperate women out there trap men into fatherhood they weren't ready for by lying or manipulating them into not using a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 05:17 AM
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Are you assuming Jesus christ the child-like indignation stfu
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:58 AM
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Yeah. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:57 AM
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No one said anything about terrorists. You're the one that's probably a secret jihadist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/21 03:51 AM
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So you're demanding that women pretend to not desire attention, intimacy and sex, while selecting men that intentionally ignore that they perceive that women don't desire these things and pursue them anyway. That's actually the norm of dating, and why men that don't care about how women feel and treat them like objects are the most successful by far. Meanwhile all men get punished for the actions of men women select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:11 PM
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Never said anything about violent terorrists or taking over government.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:02 PM
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I mean, that makes you sound like a terrorist but ok. Hah, wow. If anything is going to make men do everything they can to eradicate women's rights it's this kind of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:05 PM
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Who cares? Hopefully right wing psychopaths take power and strip women of all of their rights since they're unable to share them with anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 09:36 PM
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Female orgasms and male orgasms are in no way equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 09:22 PM
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Uh, I certainly don't give a fuck. Goes both ways, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 09:18 PM
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When we get radical right wing extremists in power and women lose abortion rights, don't complain when men tell you to get a hysterotomy if you don't want to get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 09:13 PM
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I don't judge women in relationships, but in reality women are like this to varying degrees from the start all the way to the end of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:14 PM
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it's not so much the actual act of rape that turns me on, it's the idea of a man wanting me so badly (particularly me husband) he can't control himself. Women behave that way in every aspect of dating from the very initial stages of courtship all the way up to sex in marriage, then demand that men believe them whenever something happens, as if women are never baiting men to behave a certain way. We're not just talking about bdsm here. For the record I don't engage women that can't act like matur…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:34 PM
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Women are passive in every single aspect of forming relationships. It's what's so incredibly predatory about female behavior. They want men to approach and escalate everything. Except they also want the authority to call someone a rapist, have everyone believe them and have the man thrown in jail. Yet at the same time they secretly want someone they're attracted to to act like an entitled boundary crosser, borderline-rapist just to get very basic intimacy in return that both parties benefit from…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:14 PM
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Well it has everything to do with signaling because women's word can't be taken seriously because they're entirely passive even in the formation of relationships they themselves want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:10 PM
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That's not a real solution and everyone knows it. If a woman gets pregnant against her will she can go get an abortion. If a man gets a woman pregnant against his will he should not be responsible for the child unless he is married to the woman. Men should start assuming that women that tell men to 'wear condoms' are predatory by nature, because the same rational you're using to tell men to wear condoms is the same rational conservatives used to use on women when trying to keep abortion illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 02:20 PM
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You're not seriously stupid enough to think that's what I was implying, right? I was clearly saying women wanting men to desire them so deeply they can't control themselves is extremely toxic, yet completely normalized. It's the real reason women are passive in every aspect of dating and that's the real reason I resent a lot of female behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 02:17 PM
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So ignore what she says and wear a condom and pull out This is hardly enough. A guy could be in a long term relationship with a woman and she can lie about being on birth control as well. Women demand men have no reproductive rights then get angry when men treat all women with the same skepticism they might treat a stranger hiding under a sewer grate stabbing the air with a blade and avoid relationships entirely. It's fucking silly. Men have zero reproductive rights. If a woman wants to abort a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 08:17 AM
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Niceguys are completely unrelated to that post. Women that shout that they have a boyfriend are trying to signal to other people both that they're good enough to warrant male attention and are rejecting you. They're analogous to men that hit on women then call the woman ugly when they get rejected. Only diference is men are the one's that escalate at every junction of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 07:22 AM
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Holy shit, if you actually read what umnotard said, that's what many women demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:35 AM
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Right? It's fucking psychotic. I want to have sex with women that want to have sex with me. Am I a fucking rapist for wanting that and resenting women for wanting me to do everything, including manufacturing scenarios where they try to compel me to act like an entitled non-consentual predator?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:34 AM
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it's the idea of a man wanting me so badly (particularly me husband) he can't control himself. This desire manifests in toxic ways in some women that will drag you to bed then do everything to make you feel like she wants you have sex but you have to force yourself on her. It's gross and I find it pretty repulsive, since it's extremely selfish imho. My husband and I have done a lot of consensual sort of rape stuff. Like, I don't judge women for doing this in a relationship, but women do this in …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:29 AM
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I think men already understand this, especially when a woman takes them to bed then 'resists.'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:26 AM
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But sex still poses physical, emotional, and social risks to women that it doesn't to men. Just asking a woman out can be damaging to a man's reputation. You ask a woman out and she might shout that she has a boyfriend and act like you're harassing her. Just getting rejected by a woman nukes your chances with other women. Also, women lie about being on birth control to trap men into slavery on a daily basis. So I don't want to hear about pregnancy risks again ever in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:38 AM
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Then don't pretend that the reason men are having difficulty dating is they're all sending 'hey beautiful' messages. She has no idea what kind of messages men receive and that women put even less effort into their messages. It's kind of pointless to listen to her perspective, since what works isn't sending thoughtful messages. It's being hot or a good looking fuckboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 04:27 AM
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LOL. No, she can also, like, not be a fucking retard and message people first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 05:16 PM
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All this conversation and you still haven't even proposed anything that a man would want out of a relationship in order to be content being in a relationship with a woman. It's almost like you've assumed all women are entitled to relationships because they feel entitled to sex with men because it's so easy. And then you get surprised men only want sex, video games and no relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:53 AM
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I never heard a man saying a woman talking to him or approaching him and treating him like a human being is promiscuous. On the other hand, I've never had a woman approach me and show genuine interest or ask me out on a date, and offer to pay for the whole date. Like, do you think a man would call you a slut if you asked him out on a date, then paid, without asking anything from him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 02:04 AM
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What? Do you mean MGTOW? Like go then? Why do women say this? Men can be talking to eachother in the men's room about some bullshit a woman pulled back at the party and a woman will kartwheel into the bathroom, crawl ontop of the stalls lik General Grievous and tell them to 'like go then.' It doesn't matter if men 'go.' Women will invade their personal space, call it toxic and mysoginist, try to get it banned and tell the men to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:33 AM
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Hahah. Sure, but the main factors are women not approaching, while being hypergamous. Everything else comes second. Most men aren't going to get this kind of attention from attractive feminine women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyC70H4vYBw I've never seen any kind of evidence that dating is in any way dead because of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:27 AM
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I'm mad about 0. Men sending lazy messages isn't the problem with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:19 AM
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They're not disconnected. Men have to make the first move and escalate repeatedly. There's no expectation from women in building relationships. But women can shame a man for escalating or approaching in a way she simply doesn't like. What the other guy said about women is absolutely true. There's all these boundaries a man can't cross but when a woman thinks you're hot she'll do those things to you while your hands are tied. At the same time women can do anything wrong, even wildly illegal thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:18 AM
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I don't think so. This is the Urban Dictionary definition of boof: "Honestly, I don't know what it means but some kid in my Italian class keeps on threatening to do it to the teacher" So, I don't know, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:10 AM
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But this thread is about male dating problems. Sending bad openers can't be the problem since women who do send messages do the same thing, right? It seems like the problem there is mainly women not initiating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:08 AM
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Wanna go boof some crack?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:07 AM
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Hey, some asshole made a stupid thread about men not caring about women's orgasms or offering them amazing sex, and I'm just pointing out that caring about women's orgasms and giving them great sex doesn't get you more sex with more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:05 AM
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Women out earn men where I'm from, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, especially since you initiated with talking about men being more interested in video games and porn than relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 01:02 AM
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Aaaand women don't care is what I'm saying. Why should I care if a girl can't cum? I can't care. Every time I tell people that most women who can't cum because they have a big vagina, small clit, isn't cooperatively providing meaningful instructions or never masturbated, I get called names. I literally do not care at all anymore. And guess what? When women are attracted to you they don't care either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:49 AM
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It sounds like the problem is women not being attracted to most men tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:41 AM
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It seems like the problem is women have such abundance of available intimacy they just get picky about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:38 AM
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Who fucking cares is what I'm curious about? Why should anyone care?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:36 AM
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They're optometrists. WHAT did you call me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:32 AM
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This was your comment: How is that working both ways? I think men's behavior has changed from previous generations where porn and gaming werent daily things. I'm trying to tell you that isn't what happened. Women became more masculine, demanded more authority, while not demanding more accountability. You're saying everyone you know thinks women not lacking accountability is a bad thing meanwhile Amber Heard gave a huge speech in the middle of a city where I lived, even though all of the evidence…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:29 AM
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PrincessFKNPeach That's how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:25 AM
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It isn't guaranteed for men. That's what post nut clarity is. Most men feel cheated after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:24 AM
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Why do we have to offer men anything? You are the one talking about men simply opting out of relationships as if they prefer video games in porn, when that isn't what happened. All women really have to do is not be fat, be feminine, be cooperative, etc. The bar is at the bottom of the ocean for women, yet women get mad that men have a bar at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:14 AM
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I think it's safe to say that most men are having sex they don't want either. That's what post nut clarity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:10 AM
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The same behavior women provoke from men that leads men to being successful with women discourages men from giving too much attention to women. If women didn't find the majority of men unattractive like u/Blackwhatever said above this wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:06 AM
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got eem
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:06 AM
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You don't see how men being disincentivized by women to put energy into their orgasm is relevant to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 12:05 AM
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Hahah. Exactly. Exactly. It would be fine if you were. But then you would be struggling to date men, who have preferences of their own when it comes to dating women, because other than being feminine and sexual, women have pretty much nothing to offer men. Women on the other hand, want men to desire them for the same reason they desire men. And at the same time they want it to be totally acceptable to not bring anything to the table men want. THEN they want to exclude men that don't have as much…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 11:56 PM
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Maybe you're really fat or masculine? I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 11:34 PM
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Women never initiated, but at least men were getting from women what men wanted out of relationships with women. Now men aren't actually getting those things by and large, and women are still not initiating. At the same time women have felt entitled to have higher demands of men, simultaneously expecting men to desire women for the same reasons men desire women, like wealth, status, power, etc. Only problem is the only reason those things mean anything is women desire them from men. So there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 11:30 PM
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It's not really male behavior that changed initially. It's female behavior that's changed to such a degree that you they demand a man do all of the initiating and escalating up to and including marriage and having kids. And at the same time women want all of the authority to shame men who approach them in ways they personally don't like. On top of that, they want the option to avoid any kind of personal responsibility or accountability. Women grope men and nothing happens, women molest kids and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:46 PM
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rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:23 PM
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Imagine being so dense you don't know what's going to happen sending that message as a woman and then on top of that, having opinions about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:20 PM
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if youre talking to me just because you think im hot you would avoid someone because you think theyre ugly. Women behave this way and are far more extreme about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:16 PM
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The point is the problem with dating is that women are never expected to initiate or actually participate in any aspect of building relationships, yet at the same time they want the authority to shame men for doing any tiny thing incorrectly, while at the same time women suffer no consequences for anything from sexual assault, non-consensual sex, raping children, and forcing men to be fathers to children they didn't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:15 PM
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As with everything in dating that women tend to complain about, which could be resolved by women taking initiative, responsibility and accountability for literally any aspect of dating and relationships. There isn't just one factor, there are many, and it's totally dependent on individual woman, which means it appears totally arbitrary how a woman reacts to anything, to a man. So picking one thing like men saying 'hey beautiful' and putting it at the forefront is kind of ridiculous, especially s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 10:11 PM
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It's fun how we're pretending sending thoughtful messages is what gets men replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 05:19 PM
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Whichever one comes from the guy that makes her wettest? Sending thoughtful interesting messages doesn't ensure a reply on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 05:18 PM
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That's the thing, women's reactions to men talking to them is entirely dependent on whether or not they think the man is attractive and how much attention they're getting and from which men. That's not to say that men aren't saying/doing bad things, but a man can just exist and be treated like he's creepy, a creep or predatory, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 02:37 AM
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I don't understand the mentality and am not trying to rationalize it tbh. I'm just providing another perspective based on how women that are average or below average act even when you're just talking to them like a normal person about nothing related to relationships or sex or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 01:58 AM
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I did. Men don't care about wealth social status or power. It's women that care about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 12:26 AM
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Bad example. There's no evidence god exists just like there is no evidence that women are primarily hypogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 12:26 AM
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I guess there's a spectrum with all kinds of behavior, you know? Some women really do get offended when a guy approaches, plenty of women get offended when a guy that's merely not attractive is in the same vicinity, not approaching, not acknowledging or interacting with her at all. You're saying that when men approach you you have an expectation that one of them might be a psycho and stab you and men might be picking up on that and misinterpreting and thinking you think you're too good to talk t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 12:02 AM
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You have to provide evidence that women don't select for wealth status and power, which is what it means to be hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 11:28 PM
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You have to provide evidence that women don't select for wealth status and power, which is what it means to be hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 11:28 PM
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You're going to have to prove that the things men have that women want from male partners and dramatically increases male prospects, like wealth, status, power, are desired by women in equal or less quantity or quality than what each woman has on her own. These things are desired by women in abundance, which is what it even means for women to want them, and that's what makes hypergamy a pervasive thing, even though it varies from woman to woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 11:25 PM
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I dunno. Seems like women get treated like crap when rejecting men because they're rude or dismissive when rejecting as if they were too good for the man that approached them. Some women that really are average or below average will act upset when a guy they don't like approaches. So they get reminded they're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:59 PM
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Imagine being a prostitute and being upset your clients are boring. 'People should pay for access to my genitals. And-- and they need to be as interesting as the Dos Equis guy.'
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:52 PM
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Most if not all of your posts are massive shitposts tbfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:50 PM
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It's not fake niceness. It's the fact that women treat men positively or negatively based on physical attraction and the amount of attention they're getting from other men. Most of the women that complain about men calling them beautiful are complaining about too many men liking their looks, just like you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:35 PM
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You're assuming that someone that complimented your looks is doing it to hundreds of other people, just because of the amount of attention you're getting from men. So ten men send you a similar message you're assuming they're sending it to tens of women. It's a consequence of women being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:32 PM
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When you get 10+ messages a day from men saying "Hey beautiful" or "Hey gorgeous," it does not feel remotely sincere. Like most problems in dating this is entirely caused by women being passive in every stage of relationships from initiating all the way up to marriage and/or raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 07:30 PM
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You would be the one to have to present evidence that women are looking for partners that are equal or below earners and not hypergamous at this point. You're confused in thinking I'm the one that has to present evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/21 12:37 AM
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Men discuss characteristics of women that are best avoided because women certainly aren't going to tell them Why is that so confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 10:48 PM
2

The only reason men prioritize younger women is because women are hypergamous. That's it. Men wouldn't care about particularly young women if women weren't hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 12:11 AM
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MMmmm. The reason men care about looks only is women are hypergamous and care about wealth/status irrespective of what men want. There's no reasons to care about those things because men already need those things in order to date. Women don't. Women want a sex object too, and eventually trade that in for a resource object if they can't find a man who is both or at least the prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 12:08 AM
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Oh, wow. Suddenly incel actually has a meaning other than rapist jihadist MISOGYNIST.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:14 PM
1

That's really not top 10% that's more like top 3% or 2% because you're combining properties.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:12 PM
1

It's not really the same. The only reason men have to earn so much is hypergamy. Most women out there want a man earning at least 1.5x what she is. So if you're making 200k and your wife is making 190k you can expect her to start pressuring you to earn more once she gets a raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:07 PM
1

But do women understand that if they were not hypergamous and imagining that earning 100k meant they were entitled to a 150k means all men can possibly care about is looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 10:03 PM
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Lol. You womanists always communicate in the same way. Deny deny deny reality until you have to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:37 PM
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Lol. You don't even recognize your own borderline mental illness. Me: You can't criticize women because when you do you're blamed for the woman's failings. You: It's your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:09 PM
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Yeah, I agree, I agree. That was an intentional overstatement. The nice girls you like want to be attracted to someone and there's nothing wrong with that and she probably isn't a ho. It's actually probably a lot healthier to just tell them there are other women out there like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 10:07 PM
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Even if it were a me problem my masculinity wouldn't be tied to making women cum because making women cum is so easy and trivial. The women that have a problem achieving orgasm usually have a physiological problem making it harder. Since we're not aloud to talk about those things without having it said that something is wrong with us, This sounds like a you problem it never gets talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:59 PM
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Hey, don't try to pull that shit on me. Women that can't cum are often at fault themselves, but men are the only ones that get blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:27 PM
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If you ask your mom how to get the average nice girl to reciprocate interest she'll probably tell you just be nice and be yourself instead of telling you she's probably a ho and you need to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:26 PM
1

Definitely being sarcastic. Most women are mediocre at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:22 PM
1

Imagine saying people are more complex than men acknowledge, then saying the only people Trump grabbed by the pussy were gold diggers clout chasers and groupies as if that was the entire meaning of the lives of the women he grabbed like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:18 PM
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So they're just assholes then ...Elliot Rodgers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:16 PM
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No, you're right though. Having a vagina automatically makes you an god at sex and if it doesn't go perfectly it's the man that did something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:29 PM
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Most of the women I've been with are capable of having full body convulsions that last 10 or more seconds and multiple of them. One had an orgasm that lasted minutes the other had 11 orgasms back to back. Men really don't experience anything like this and we're claiming a male orgasm and female orgasm are the same when women are still getting the pleasure of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:08 PM
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Most men aren't doing that 5 times a day, though. I've known super feminine women not on T that did it 5-10 times a day. Sex hormones in men and women are different, and the main sex hormone in women isn't T, estrogen, and I'm pretty sure it isn't progesterone either. It's something else that influences their sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:03 PM
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Incorrect. The answer is nobody. Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:57 PM
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Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:54 PM
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Personally, every woman I've ever discussed this with that doesn't get off quickly or easily, has dealt with men like this. Every woman I've met that can't get off easily has a small clitoris, big vagina, refuses to participate in the sex, give direction or simply never masturbated or some combination of all of these things. Most women can cum from PIV and will want sex soon after that. It's usually lazy women or women not familiar with their own bodies that can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:52 PM
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Meanwhile if you say that women with big vaginas are forgettable and a waste of time for sex you're a rapist and jihadist literally coordinating Taliban raids on all girl schools.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:48 PM
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Or be so painful it makes us bleed? Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:45 PM
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Sex always comes with consequences for women. LOL. And feminists have been telling us for decades that there are no consequences and men should marry promiscuous women!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:45 PM
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Don't care. Women feel entitled for men to approach then deem it necessary that they get to publicly shame any man for approaching in a way they don't like. On top of that contradictory bullshit they want men to feel sympathetic to any experience they're not having, but imagine they might have. Meanwhile any woman uses Tinder like a food delivery service. So who the f should care? I certainly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:52 PM
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Dude who effing cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:41 AM
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And STILL people fuck grannies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:40 AM
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So we’re eliminating women over a certain weight, women over a certain age, and non-white women The only reason anyone is attracted to anyone of different ages is women are hypergamous and desire men with wealth status, which is mostly accrued over time. That's it. There's no reason to like old women or fat women. You can't FORCE men to want to date fucking fat women, they chose being fat. As far as race, if you're a black woman and you're having trouble dating in or out of your race, chances ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 07:40 AM
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But that's the same success rate with all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 04:05 AM
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Rofl. I watched this one now I'm high: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4xDKTQLuPM
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 08:43 PM
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Men's RMV and SMV are almost the same. If a man has SMV and low RMV he always, always, always has an opportunity to change it unless it's something like violent mental illness causing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 08:17 PM
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Well, they do want promiscuous men. It doesn't matter why. If they didn't want it, men wouldn't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 08:13 PM
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Are you still high? Here's a trip, I just got my first ever ad to take calc classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 08:12 PM
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oh wow okay good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 04:20 PM
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Pissing you off is pretty funny ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 04:33 AM
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I never made it past precalc, but I don't need to know Linear Algebra to use Tensorflow. What I do know is that anything divided by 0 certainly isn't fucking infinity. Maybe if you got rid of that yee yee-ass haircut you'd stop dividing by 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 04:11 AM
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Wow, this is the one I should have gotten banned for calling a dumb bitch for. What a missed opportunity. You literally don't understand anything about dating and are trying to shame men for how they behave when it comes to interacting with women. This is the most retarded shit I've ever read wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 02:02 AM
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Can you take your bullshit back to TwoXChromosomes? Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:56 AM
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You're a woman so you don't need to understand dating. Or maybe, just maybe, you develop the social capital before you try approaching. Wow, that person must have been talking about men and women both because women are approaching men all the time and treating them like human beings literally every day. Wrong. They were referring to men needing to constantly self improve and figure out how to apply to the job of being a woman's boyfriend, meanwhile women don't need to do anything and are complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:55 AM
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That's so pathetic, but to each its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:46 AM
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We like women with thin waists and big butts. That's not really the same as 'big' women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:38 AM
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Yeah it sucks. Women write you off when they think you look too young.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:35 AM
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He really isn't, he's just fucking famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:35 AM
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Sorry, that makes literally zero sense. Men who are manipulative, I.E. psychotic and take what they want are going to be far more successful than men who are empathic and socially awkward, 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:30 AM
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Mmmm, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:27 AM
1

Imagine being the living embodiment of irony? You're the one sitting in a corner calling all black men are Scottish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:20 AM
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Stop selecting bad black men and you won't have to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:13 AM
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but black men generally speaking are pretty bad and they project their faults onto others a lot. Meanwhile white men literally constructed a social movement revolving around hating black people for hating cops right before white terrorists try to murder a bunch of cops. But you're probably right I guess black men are super terrible right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:08 AM
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imagine being so stupid you think you need to post references on saying black people get diabetes more wtf is this an inside joke
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:06 AM
1

Isn't FDS a default sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:58 AM
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They are gullible, that's what blue pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:57 AM
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Women want promiscuous men though. That's what they select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:52 AM
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Fat men need to have money, be successful, or beat their wives to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:51 AM
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Women want all of the benefits of dating how the men they desire date and none of the consequences of dating how the men they desire date. That's why women are extremely unhappy. It has nothing to do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:35 AM
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That would solve 100% of dating problems that exist. Listen to the type of women that call Kevin Samuels. They completely misunderstand what makes relationships and think because they want a man that's super successful that man wants the same thing. I went to school with tons of women like that who were too good for everyone, and simultaneously acted like men they weren't attracted to were inherently predatory in order to justify behaving poorly towards them. Women cause most of their own unhapp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:21 AM
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God, shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:10 AM
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That’s sad. To be so scared of maybe making anyone a little uncomfortable. Wow, even without certain people taking feminism too far there's always consequences for a man approaching and failing, especially in real life. This is why I asked if you're gay the other day. You don't seem to be able to relate to basic aspects of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:06 AM
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Mmmm, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:03 AM
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Approach men more, stop treating all men like potential rapists, start using all that extra income they have outearning men and date men that make less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:03 AM
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Then it wouldn't be fucking common sense, now would it? Wow, it's almost as if the problem with dating is that women don't do anything proactive to interact with men. Wow, it's a crazy idea, it's almost like we keep having the same conversation again and again when there's one answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:57 PM
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It's not common sense because every man witnesses women treat men poorly who treat them well and chase men who treat them poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:56 PM
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It’s why your using straw mans ​ No it’s more like they marry someone at 22 get gradually successful often with her help. Then they cheat because men like variety and they love young beautiful women and their new status and wealth gives them access to women they didn’t have access to before. Women call into Kevin Samuel's show and tell him they were married to a man for 15 years, had 2 kids by him, got bored and divorced. And they're struggling to date at 35 because they have a PhD and think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:49 PM
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I'm not being obtuse. Women want complete authority and zero accountability. All of the lack of responsibility of patriarchy, and all of the power/authority of a matriarchy with a big abyss of a vagina in the sky watching over everyone. That's why RP content is so successful and efforts to ban it promulgate it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:10 PM
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Women tend to want men that inherently know and understand their sexual desires psychically and will be able to aggressively act on that knowledge without any direction or fear or resistance. That's why women can say they need men to perform the masculine act of being able to approach, while retaining the feminine authority to publicly shame men who do something the wrong way at any level, whether it be just talking, harassment, initial physical contact, assault, or sex, rape. Women select for p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:07 PM
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How is it misogynist for a man to tell a woman that's 38, has herpes, and has two kids, that having a phd doesn't make her more attractive to a man that's 38, has herpes, lots of money and no kids, because all the money her phd goes into her pocket, while half of the money he make will also go into her pocket, yet the scenario you're projecting onto all men is not misandrist? https://youtu.be/2VdaAOqaC6s?t=432 This is how I feel like when talking to most women from this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:03 PM
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I understand it exactly. Do you understand that SMV and RMV are not the same? An overweight woman in her 50's has higher SMV than men in their 20's. Doesn't mean the woman has anyone asking to marry her. Women confuse the idea that sex has some intrinsic, real value on it's own with the idea that men who will fuck them will enter a relationship with them. So a woman that's a 5 thinks she's better than a man that's a 5 because she can fuck guys she's immediately sexually attracted to without actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:51 PM
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Hey, man. I'm not one to put people down for anything or get into pissing contests, but you probably won't because of what I do, and you're the one that's claiming to have taken calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:44 PM
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This is bullshit. You think most men will marry a woman at 22, gradually become successful over 30 years and marry someone 30 years younger just because the woman got old? It's more than likely the woman was never all that into him, stopped having sex after the kids were born and only has starfish sex after that. Then when they get divorced she takes half because she never worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 10:39 PM
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No Tommy Sotomayor is horrible. Who would pay to listen to him talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 10:00 PM
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Those are exactly the men women want, and this is touched on quite a bit in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaGpSoLDUZs The entire reason men end up not selecting for these women are these are the women that are placing inflated value on these men, while these men know very well that women very cruelly exclude men that they perceive to be beneath them. Women riding the bus will only talk to men with a Ferrari, not other men riding the bus. So the entire reason women end up struggling…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:53 PM
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Black American women paid Tommy Sotomayor. wew that's a bridge too far
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:49 PM
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The guy...isn't misogynist. He simply plainly expresses to women that just because they value status, wealth and all this other bullshit that men take years to acquire, doesn't mean men value those things in women. Men don't need a woman that's popular and/or makes 6 figures. Those 6 figures are hers, unlike a man's money which is expected to be socialized. A lot of men never have an experience where they start off with nothing with a woman then build something together so that they're both succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:48 PM
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Men don't think sex ruins women, it's the fact that women are attempting to get relationshisp out of sex and are being hypergamous with sex while a man that's her equal has to wok much harder for much less enthusiastic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:24 PM
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Women want benevolent misogynists and psychic rapists, a tiny minority of men. That 3-tiered pyramid is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:20 PM
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I absolutely engaged her words. Most women want want entitled aggression, a benevolent chauvinist, and a psychic rapist. These are the men women select for, not guys that are polite, passive and ask for consent at every turn. Those guys will ruin every hookup they come across, doesn't matter how blue, green or purple some girl's hair is, ask me how I know. Women as a whole promote bad behavior while punishing men that aren't even participating in it the most. So whatever happened to her is sad o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:54 PM
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Actually, we definitely are, but everyone in this sub is perfectly happy to beat around the bush in every single thread without getting to the real core of the problem. I'm personally not a psychic rapist, who understands how every woman wants to be harassed, escalating into assaulted, then escalating into rape. Women want benevolent psychotic misogynist with 0 empathy, who read their minds and game them in exactly the right way. For most men that made the mistake of thinking women were more com…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:50 PM
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Oh wow, all of a sudden anecdotes are relevant when we've hit a factual wall that that men are neither psychics nor rapists and women are perfectly comfortable shaming men for expression affection. Should I just list off every woman I've ever held hands with or what? Rofl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:45 PM
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Well most women seem to want a psychic rapist and it's not men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:43 PM
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Being a moderator isn't going to save you from acknowledging the reality that women want the authority of matriarchy and the lack of responsibility of patriarchy, selecting only for benevolent misogynists that are psychic rapists, which causes most of everyone's dating problems, and it has nothing to do with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:40 PM
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oh yowzers I'm sorry m'lady
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:38 PM
1

Women want and need sex, they just feel entitled to get paid for something they already enjoyed because they have vaginas. 'Oh well that was a good movie. Everyone's leaving, wonder if there's any bonus scenes. Oh hey, where's the guy that comes around and pays you for coming to the fucking theater?' - a fucking woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:37 PM
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I'm not denying pregnancy, I just don't care. I know that when a woman gets pregnant she knows who the father is unless she's too promiscuous. The same doesn't apply to me. Women also have the right to trap men by getting themselves pregnant without a man's consent and suffering no consequences, then forcing that man into indentured servitude. Congrats on having a fucking vagina, what else do you want me to say? If women don't enjoy sex so much, why are they having it? Oh yeah, for the promise o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:35 PM
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The only worse thing that can come from sex for a woman is temporary. So yeah, women enjoy sex as well, they just want to get compensated for something they're already enjoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 08:13 AM
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No. Are you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:56 AM
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Look, genius, women select for a collection of traits that push men towards being entitled and boundary crossing. It's not men, trannies, ftms that select these traits, it's solely women. At some point that idiot probably grabbed a woman's pussy and she didn't even notice him until he did that, but liked it and let him escalate. And he probably did that with 2 or 3 women after that, and they probably all liked it and let him escalate. I don't do that and I don't know men who do that, so it's cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:55 AM
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Damn. Sounds like that falls squarely into the category of shit that's not my fucking fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:52 AM
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You sound like someone that's never been a heterosexual male interested in women is all I'm saying. I'm not calling you gay, just saying you don't sound necessarily straight. If I were calling you gay I would just call you gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:51 AM
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So women don't enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 07:50 AM
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Alright. Good. Then why should I give a shit when someone gets sexually abused or molested? I don't care. Those are the traits women as a whole are selecting for, then trying to come the other direction and tell men to teach men not to rape, as if rapists have monthly performance meetings that included non-rapists. This fucking conversation is stupid and repetitive. Women like SaBahRub simply wants absolutely no responsibility when it comes to dating or relationships at all, then want to be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:43 AM
3

Hey I just tried that and it worked thanks man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:13 AM
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I just feel like every conversation in this sub, when you factor out all of the bullshit, stems from the fact that women feel entitled to be hypergamous because they have vaginas, and consequently refuse to approach men, which in turn leads to most of the problems in dating. It's just a big fucking circle. They want all of the authority of a matriarchy with a big vagina in the sky watching everyone's every move, and a patriarchy, where they have no responsibility. It's the same conversation ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 06:04 AM
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It's not actually my fault that women feel entitled to get something out of sex whether it be money or commitment or social status, otherwise they feel used. The woman got sex. Isn't that good enough? Do you think it's my fault they feel that way? It's not my fucking fault. Imagine if every time I fucked a girl I acted like she used me for my penis if she didn't become my girlfriend and listen to all of my problems. Jesus fucking christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:48 AM
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Sad, but I really don't care anymore. There's a certain spectrum of men that women select for, and men that are passive and considerate are 100% not the men that women will ever encourage. Literally everything about female mating selection breeds very bad behavior in males. So ask women about it, okay? Men teaching men not to rape isn't going to solve anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:32 AM
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It's not rocket science for you because you know exactly what you want and may be biased in assuming the person u/GridReXX is referring to that is escalating with you as attractive to you. And that's escalating with someone they're already dating. Go on a sub full of autistic lesbians like TwoX and ask them where they think it's appropriate to be approached in public? Some of them are so brainless they'll tell you they don't want to be approached in a park while walking a dog or in a bar or in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:28 AM
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Easy if you're talking to a virgin that wants commitment when you just want to smash don't lie to her and fake an interest in a real relationship. I don't know any men who do that, and that's a pretty fucked up thing to do to somebody tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:22 AM
2

Sorry that whatever happened to you happened, but this is what women select for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:20 AM
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Wow, imagine thinking men that aren't both entitled and boundary crossers are successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:19 AM
2

Don't do that that's cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:18 AM
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There's nothing so valuable about pussy that if someone had sex with you and didn't commit you should feel like you lost anything. Your vagina isn't magic or special.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:17 AM
1

That's absolutely not the truth, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:31 AM
1

Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:31 AM
2

The same traits women pick for in men to have sex with them are probably the same traits that ensure a man doesn't give a shit about her orgasm. It's actually kind of like that with most of the issues that exist in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:24 AM
1

Men don't take it seriously because women don't take it seriously since they're the ones doing it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:21 AM
1

The average woman is perfectly comfortable with committing sexual assault without a second thought then casually apologizing while trying to be cute only as a formality so that they don't betray their own deep hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:06 AM
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Men have a floor they won't dip below and women have a ceiling they call their standards. That's why the comparison is not really the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:48 AM
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That's fine. I think men have issues with women that are average or below average not realizing that wanting even one of these things excludes most men, and combining any 2 of these attributes will exclude 99+% of men. Given that women are hypergamous just because you think you're awesome doesn't mean excluding most men will work in your favor, since women that are average are doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:46 AM
1

Wow no shit the average woman doesn't understand boundaries?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:44 AM
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80% of women reproduce while 60% of men do, so, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 02:39 AM
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I was just giving you the opportunity to provide some combination of unrealistic demands that men have on women like be no taller than 5'3, weight 110lbs max, have C cups and only have fat in your buttocks. But you listed don't be an actual prostitute. Sure, okay. I don't think you made your point very well, so I'm just going to leave it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:57 AM
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Lol. Previously not worked as a sex worker and not a feminist are incredibly low bars but keep stretching. That's like me saying women are hypergamous because they want a guy that doesn't sell heroine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:51 AM
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Are you gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:45 AM
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The problem isn't pickiness, it's hypergamy. They're not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:43 AM
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Women’s requirements are post hoc rationalization, but if you want to get a date, you better check all the boxes. ...Right. But if she has even to of these requirements she could easily exclude 99% of men. And then men will lie to her to get a relationship or sleep with her, then she'll say all men are trash when she finds out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:42 AM
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But it's fundamentally retarded that women will put on heels then exclude men that are shorter than them. And when men say that's stupid, who do they have to respond to? Women that relinquish all accountability, claiming that men are forcing them to wear heels then getting upset when the woman is too tall. It's abnormal, extremely idiotic behavior regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:40 AM
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That's fine. His math is wrong, but his point is still correct, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:27 AM
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Right, but the point of the thread isn't to get an exact precise number on the probability of a woman rejecting a guy that wasn't tall or wealthy enough getting a guy that was tall and wealthy enough. It was to point out that once you select for more and more traits that are barely attainable, you start weeding out very large sections of any population. What you're arguing is the degree to which they're weeding out a larger portion of the population. But you don't find a woman that says she want…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:15 AM
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The difference between someone that's 6 foot and 5 foot is 5,000 dollars. That's not even the gap between a single tax bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:56 AM
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It's a bad strategy for men, and a great strategy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:12 AM
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I don't use instagram, your condescension and stupidity is not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:11 AM
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It's pretty obvious. Relationships aren't always public. So someone that meets with a drug dealer regularly isn't going to do it at a suburban coffee shop that everyone in their cul de sec goes to. Likewise women that just want someone hot to hookup with aren't going to be holding hands with that person publicly all of the time. What you're suggesting by using public hand holding as an example of what people might perceive and learn from is that people that are dating always express PDA which is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:48 PM
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with all the burdens of a relationship and none of the benefits But that's what men always have to do, so men are always settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:53 PM
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Literally everything you said ITT is a strawman. Someone says women told them to be a nice guy and try to make friends with women you say they're pretending to be women's friends for sex or they wore clothing 2x their own size. And I'm making fucking strawmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:50 PM
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Who women hold hands with on the street aren't the same people they met on MySpace or whatever and are willing to have casual short term relationships with. Most of that stuff is private and unless you own a social media company or live with/very near those people you'll never know. So your point is kind of stupid tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:49 PM
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Right, so you invented things that you believe he must not have done in order to be excluded from the dating pool despite him not providing any evidence he fell into that category?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:47 PM
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When women who make 6 figures or more call in he says men don’t care about a woman’s money. So if that’s true her working at a call center wouldn’t eliminate her from a 6 figure guy. That’s exactly what settling is. You don’t get what you want so you settle for what you can get. Right, because it's only women that expect men to have a huge income, nice house, nice car, career, etc. Men never, ever needed or expected any of these things from a woman. So a woman can actually be observing men walki…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:45 PM
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and actually presenting yourself in a clean, manner and being friendly was important then I'm sorry to say that you weren't very observant WOW, so people are just fucking hooking up on sidewalks for the past 20 years and people weren't paying attention? Where do you get off?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:36 PM
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Dude it has nothing to do with what grade level the man was in but the age of the woman that was telling him those things. The older and less desirable a woman gets the more likely she will be to tell a guy bullshit like this. He was probably told this nonsense by a teacher, mother or aunt or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:35 PM
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It's kind of retarded to shame men for 'faking being a woman's friend' when men are explicitly told that the best way to get a girlfriend is to be her friend first. I was just having a conversation on this sub with a solipsist woman said it works really well for her. It works well for her and most women because they're fucking passive and can get a collection of orbiters and choose from the very best one. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/kre6v3/q4all_do_men_actually_say_the_nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:33 PM
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Did you think dressing like a slob, not brushing your hair, teeth and wearing clothes 2x bigger for you, was going to get you a gf? Where did you come up with the ideas that he was doing those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:24 PM
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I'm not straw manning, I'm shortening an actual interview where a woman excluded most men that made less than a lawyer because she was going to be a lawyer eventually, even though she only worked at a call center. And many of these women openly say they aren't interested in single fathers. They want men that never had kids to pay for their own childrens' educations. Most women never end up settling. They merely use the word 'settle' to describe not being able to attain the man they wanted, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:19 PM
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But if you think being tall determines your income you're not participating in good faith either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:16 PM
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Wow, okay. Can you construct a list of exclusionary male needs beyond not being fat and not being overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:06 PM
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It really has nothing to do with progressivism tbh
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/01/21 10:03 PM
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Right, the problem is having this pointless superficial standards in the first place just like employers have. They want someone that has ridiculous qualifications and somehow only seem to be getting people who lied in order to get the position. They are only getting men who lie because their own standards exclude most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:57 PM
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We all understand what you're saying, but then you'd have to provide evidence that these things are all directly correlated, i.e, someone that's tall will also be smart with 100% certainty, or well endowed with 100% certainty etc etc. tall smart big dick 6 figure income man full head of hair The fact of the matter is that it's impossible to want a man that's tall, smart and well endowed and produce a coefficient that's greater than 1. The percentage of men that fit in whatever category will alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:55 PM
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just blame her for giving you her genetics. He should blame it on the misfortune of his birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:35 PM
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That's why sex is damaging to women. Men can be aroused a woman so long as she isn't proactively repulsive. For a woman to not be able to get over a man's bar for sex she has to put on some scuba gear, get in a compression chamber and dive to the bottom of the Marians Trench to find it. The fact that women are hypergamous is why sex is damaging to women, and men are not always interested in forming a connection with a woman despite being able to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:32 PM
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Most women want some kind of combination of at least two of the preferences mentioned above.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:28 PM
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A fit girl with no kids is usually men's only requirement. That's the bottom floor and for most men those things are negotiable. So the bar is really at the bottom of the ocean for women and they still demand it be lowered. Not a single one of the many traits women say they desire in men includes 25% of men, so it's not even close. When you start combining those traits the statistics get worse way faster. That's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:26 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:20 PM
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Just caring about income and height eliminates almost all men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:19 PM
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If women were honest about their intentions of baby trapping men dangerous and dishonest men pumping and dumping would be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:15 PM
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Now this is redditing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:11 PM
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The point of this thread is that women discard half of men on height alone, then discard them based on penis size, then income. Combining just those three things puts you at less than 1 percent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:09 PM
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The entire point of the post is that one of these variables makes finding a suitable mate rare enough. Combining it with other variables makes it even rarer. It doesn't say that all women want an 8 foot tall ogre millionaire with a 17inch prehensile penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:08 PM
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That's not at all what OP says
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:05 PM
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It's not at all saying that. It's saying that a woman wanting a guy that's 6'2 and hung excludes the overwhelming majority of men, let alone 6'2, hung, has a good job and a good car, loves kids etc. ONE of those things excludes most men, and that's the point. I've made this point in this sub many times and get called an incel for it. Even if she wants a guy that's my height, 6'3, that's like 1% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:04 PM
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Dude. Okay. So what you're doing is saying most women don't want all of those things, when the point of this thread is a woman wanting just one of those things let alone two of those things excludes most men. Women think they want an average man because they only want 4 of those things, when in reality, they excluded almost all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:00 PM
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Men aren't hypergamous at all since there's nothing women can offer men aside from their bodies, youth or looks. Hypergamy is the cause of most of women's dating problems, whether or not it's good for the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:54 PM
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The entire point of this thread is even a woman wanting 2 of these things excludes most men. Hell, wanting ONE of these things excludes most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:52 PM
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The OP may be exaggerating, He's not. He's pointing out that mixing any 2 of these things makes the chances of finding a suitable partner extremely rare, and most women want at LEAST 2 of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:51 PM
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I watch a lot of Kevin Samuels interviews with women and many of them say they want 2 or 3 of the things on this list. The point of this thread is that even one of these things is rare. Many women want 2, 3 sometimes even 4 of these things, and don't realize they're selecting for 1 in 10,000 men. But they don't need to know that, because they're finding the 1 in 10,000 on a dating app if they want to. They're just not going to keep him because most women want some combination of those superficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:49 PM
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Eh? Not really. Everyone compares approaching women to approaching an employer, but nobody acknowledges that a lot of what employers list on job reqs is a wish list. They want someone with 10 years of a language that only existed for 7, someone with a completely unrelated language that has nothing to do with that stack, unrelated database languages, and ops experience. They exclude people that are perfectly competent but don't have one of the things listed while accepting applications only from …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:45 PM
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This post doesn't even mention that. He's pointing out that when you multiply any two things a woman might want out of a man the odds become incredibly unrealistic with just two of the things women might want, height and income. Boom, 99% of men eliminated. That doesn't mean all women only want all of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:35 PM
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How? He just applied basic multiplication from like...a remedial level math class. The title of this post is 'Math.' Where is the framing? So next time I see a woman that wants a guy that's 6'2 and makes 100,000k a year I should call her an incel? I don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:31 PM
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You’re making a straw-man as does OP. A female law student is likely to meet a bunch of male law students with above average height and IQ, great income prospects, who aren’t bald yet. It's true though. But all of the women will be sharing the 7 foot tall law student, and that will just be one of his dozen harems, since men aren't hypergamous. So even if they were in a 'relationship' the chances that she'd keep a man with literally all of the options is 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:17 PM
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Damn everyone in a position of power at some of the tech companeis i worked for was my height or taller
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:14 PM
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It's really just math. Plenty of women want a guy that's 6'0, 8inches, 6 figure salary, etc. etc. They don't calculate how rare one of those things are and how rare multiple of those things are together. And then they don't figure in whether or not she meets that man's needs. How is that incel content?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:13 PM
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She's a woman of course she did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:08 PM
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Right, so abortion is completely superflous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:00 PM
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The fact that women never approach men is what pushes them towards being hypergamous. It's absolutely possible that women everywhere are just fucking random average looking guys they met pumping gas, but something tells me, women being that something, that is not happening at all and women are extraordinarily picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:58 PM
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Oooooooh, so you're saying we can have paper abortions and men can have rights to protect themselves from low quality loser women they don't want to have kids with, but you just don't want that to happen for some indiscernible reason? I got it. 😉😉
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:56 PM
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'Due to religious beliefs my sperm will only be available through direct insemination as it is not considered appropriate to store my seed however temporary the storage may be.'
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:53 PM
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Khloe Kardashian The chunky girl on the left? She's not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:50 PM
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The problem with women is that they perceive that any could give them sperm, then choosing a particular man is settling. Settling for a woman is merely talking to an equal man as if he's a person. It's literally the entire problem with dating and relationships. Single moms call into Kevin Samuel's show all the time thinking they can find a husband that makes multiple six figures is tall and good looking, with no kids of his own. "Maam, you want a man that is on your level. Okay, what do you do f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:46 PM
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sperm desiring women, even butch lesbians Butch lesbians that never saw a penis before are the biggest chad chasers of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:39 PM
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You said if you don't want to have kids use contraceptives. That makes abortion superfluous, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:36 PM
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It's not men's low standards. Cumulatively, men as a whole will fuck a woman as long as that woman isn't proactively repulsive. That's not the same as not being attracted to someone. The only other way a woman can be an incel is if a man never approaches her, because women value themselves too much to approach. They'll only approach if the man is borderline unattainable. For women casual sex is anything but casual it's a failed attempt at a relationship. Casual sex wouldn't be damaging to women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:34 PM
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Yeah, if you're dating someone long term you should be able to verbally tell a woman you're not interested in having kids with her and that should be binding enough. Child support should only be for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:31 PM
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What you're saying is abortion is superfluous and should be outlawed. I'm not the one advocating for that, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:29 PM
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But you're the one turning it around? The fact of the matter is a guy can be in a relationship with a woman that he trusts, and she tells him she's on birth control then force him to have a child, even though she knows he doesn't want to be a father. If women don't want babies they should use contraceptives. Why do they need abortion clinics on every corner?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:26 PM
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I was kind of joking. Do you really think Nicole Kidman is ugly? I think she's at least a 9. But this stupid scale I'm using is looks based and nothing else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw The woman in that video is a solid 8 imho. Women don't need to be prettier than that. There's this other woman on YT called 'Tiffany' who does comedy videos. I'd rate her an adjustable 5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84CoQ44WL1E
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:09 PM
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Predatory women can still grab the sperm from a recently disposed of condom. Your assumption that men are safe by taking very basic precautions tells me you probably think women aren't people capable of being selfish or predatory or dangerous or even evil. Like animals they can never do anything wrong, so men don't need to have rights to keep them safe from women. Shame on you for thinking women are animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:05 PM
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Yikes sweater
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:42 AM
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But there’s not much the other way around that men have which women want as badly. There is. Stability, better lifestyle, social status, good looking spouse to name a few. That's why women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:41 AM
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Uh, no. I'm trying to talk to other men and relay the importance of not placing their future in the hands of predatory women and for some reason you're trying to discourage me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:37 AM
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Well that's the reason sex is damaging to women. Women don't have casual sexual relationships with men they aren't attracted to, or couldn't conceivably bein a relationship with, but sex isn't really the same for men. So women assume that because they're getting attention from a lot of men they perceive to be high quality they could seriously keep that man, who will probably stay casual with her and a number of other women for years. That's why so many women perceive dating or marrying an equal …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:35 AM
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It's damaging because women who are having lots of casual sex are having casual sex with men they perceive they could be in a relationship with because he's attractive enough to have sex with on demand, or she perceives him to be high value (high income, well liked in a community etc), and thinks that because he's willing to have sex with her that might lead to a relationship. In reality, men will mostly have sex with women so long as they are hygienic and not obese. But that's an extremely low …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:34 AM
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Not nearly as foolproof as a legal document that allows a man to set the terms for when he becomes a father. I mean, a woman can still fish a used condom out of the trash and deposit the sperm, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:30 AM
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Sex is damaging to women because women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:25 AM
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STD’s are the risk and way grosser IMO. You haven’t convinced me that there’s cum residing in the vaginal canal days and days after a bareback encounter. I don't know why I need to convince you of something that's an observable fact. You know where that is right? Way past where any dick or tongue could go. Dude that's YOUR problem, not mine. Just because the drain for a urinal is on the bottom doesn't mean the handle is safe to lick. You're seriously chastising men for not wanting to eat a girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:01 AM
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Men need to get paper abortions. Women can tamper with condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:58 AM
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No? It's about the reality that men can get forced into fatherhood, and they have absolutely no rights regarding that, but we're having a fake conversation about men not caring about women's rights when in most places they do have abortion rights. Why should I put on my walking shoes for women who will turn around and tell me that not wanting to be a father with a woman makes me a deadbeat dad, when a woman can get an abortion when I want her to have a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:55 AM
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That’s the risk. For some guys eating a strange woman's pussy is not worth the risk. Just the idea of it is gross because there's a huge risk. So it has nothing to do with being a bad lover and everything to do with self respect and having different values as far as sex goes. But since you're the Galactus of simps you think a man with self respect just hates women and hates giving them the orgasms they're all entitled to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:50 AM
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Yeah, wtf is a dookie and a principality? Anyway, have fun eating cum caked on some bar sluts gash. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:49 AM
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You can't say this. It's terrorism. Are you from the Taliban? It's like you walked onto the set of The View, threw an IED in the crowd and spraying them with dual wielded RPDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:29 AM
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they are sex/babymaking things that are supposed to be purchased unused. I mean, I don't think that way but I respect your opinion. you’re horrified because other dicks have touched your sex possession A virgin 17 year old and a 35 year old single mom are no different to me, they're both just people. The problem with a 35 year old single mom is they're more often than not trying to get the highest value man with sex and couldn't keep him. And after years of chasing that, feel like they are settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:25 AM
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Right, but men are getting forced to be fathers or lied to by women who claim to be on birth control, literally every day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQryQhvuexc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:01 AM
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idgaf about any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:00 AM
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I had a FTM roommate that would bring dudes over then get pissed of when they'd leave. So rude. I don't get how CP having been male invalidates their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 06:14 AM
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I like his content but sometimes he comes off cruel to women that were somehow convinced they would be able to secure a 'HVM' by getting a high level of education or a high paying job when in reality they are more of a liability to a man that's their equal and spent decades ignoring men that weren't 'on their level' or on the level they perceived themselves to be headed towards. On top of that they so frequently say they weren't in a relationship for 10 years or something, but they were 'dating'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 06:10 AM
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Sounds like a “woman” problem Woman let's a guy that she's actually attracted to nut in her without a condom, then forces the beta she's not that into but buys her things to lap it up for an hour or he won't get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 05:08 AM
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This is why you're the duke from the duchy of Simpington, which pays fealty to the White Knights from the Principality of the Simpdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 05:06 AM
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Wow, this is alqaidism you can't say this!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 05:01 AM
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Vaginas are self cleaning, you do realise that sperm doesn't stay inside forever right? Sperm stays inside for 3 days up to a week. If a woman is having a casual hookup with a guy what's to say she isn't doing it with 10 other guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:59 AM
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I literally never expect blowjobs from a casual hookup, and never have since I first started dating. It's weird to expect that, but women get really disappointed because they know I'm not going to be eating them out. Some women even force you into their mouthes then expect you to return the favor. I had one woman that was having a genital herpes outbreak expect me to go down on her, and another that did the same while having a catastrophic category 5 yeast infection. Gross women are everywhere, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:55 AM
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All sperm/semen do not make it into the uterus. It pools around the posterior/anterior fornix and can stay there for days. So fi you're casually hooking up with a woman that wants to sit on your face, there's no reason to assume she wasn't having sex a few days or a few hours prior. I mean, why would a woman casually hook up with you and not a thousand other guys in her city? Doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:52 AM
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Are you 12? You seem to say 'lol' after a lot of your posts. I've personally witnessed it working twice, and knew other people who used it to success, bought a random product that was similar to ben wa balls that worked for someone else. I don't know if you're mad that there's something women can do to improve their sex lives so that sex with any man would be pleasurable, but it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:26 AM
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Yeah? Men get lied to about women being on birth control all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zts5Epm5wU That's why this post is absolutely ridiculous. Men can't get pregnant but they can be forced to be fathers without their consent. So the idea that there would be abortion clinics on every corner is ridiculous. Women seem to be getting STDs at skyrocketing rates today, that's probably why there's an urgent care clinic on every corner. This isn't the 50's or 70's, women have way more …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:24 AM
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Because you don't realize that if a man ejaculates in a woman it doesn't simply disappear in a few days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:19 AM
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The thing is women don't need to make you sign anything. They can just abort your baby even if you want it. And they can keep it even if you don't want to and force you to be a father even if you told them you weren't ready. So basically this thread is written from a perspective that women have less rights than men somehow when in some places its the other way around. Men have less rights. Men have been getting forced into fatherhood for ages just like women where I'm from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:03 AM
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ooo, so you're saying that women have sex because they want to have kids, and the only people they're willing to have sex with are those they might concieve of having relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:18 PM
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spacechicken is a twerf didnt you know
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:15 PM
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Well they themselves explained that as a male they never got any attention from women, but it was a 180 presenting as a woman. All sorts of trans people say this, including FTM who think life is going to be a cake walk as a man, then realize that it's complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:14 PM
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because that's when men do this shit the most IMO. how would you know
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:12 PM
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It's weird to me that you'd prefer the risk of rape, bring pursued/lied to for access to your genitals, and being treated like garbage for trusting someone that manipulated/lied to you. Women absolutely do all of these things to men, including lying to get men to not wear condoms, and treating men who were spurgled and forced to be fathers like it's their fault 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:11 PM
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Spend years in school to start a successful business or get a great job
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:08 PM
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I think that's why there are fewer female incels Somebody run me over with a car rn
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:07 PM
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You can't say that, that's terrorism
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 09:04 PM
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The reason men perceive sex to be damaging to women is because the overwhelming majority of men have to work for sex, even though all women want sex. It's really not that fucking hard to figure out. It's not like some spontaneous idea men came up with. So I don't know why keep misrepresenting the reasoning behind why men avoid promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:55 PM
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Yeah, but why can't men get paper abortions? Or sign a legal document with a woman saying he rejects the possibility of fathering one of her children before they have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:54 PM
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Well, men feel horrified about unwanted fatherhood, yet paper abortions are legal where exactly? This entire post is retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:53 PM
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I have no reason to think they were inaccurate, because they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:51 PM
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I also convinced a woman in her 50's to take it once and it worked out super well. Don't know what else to tell you. Women can improve their own sex lives in meaningful ways. They're just mostly lazy slags.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:51 PM
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18 year old Nicole Kidman, with smaller tits, a rap booty, and whipped cream on top. That's a solid 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:48 PM
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First woman I ever dated joked about using one and I think she compacted cars as a side gig.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:30 PM
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When I said biased I meant after asking women I knew or dated what they thought it was. I don't think I'm ignorant. There's no real reason to assume I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:22 PM
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I think she's personally hurt by hit. OP's post made a lot of sense and was pretty accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:53 PM
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???????? How old are you btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:45 PM
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I agree. It's second hand embarassing too, but the problem is that he's right. I mean, listen to this interview(and I have like 30 of these clips of this guy interviewing women): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaGpSoLDUZs Women cause the entire problem in dating by expecting resources, status, wealth, etc from men over time. It really has nothing to do with men. All men want is someone that's decently attractive, fit, takes care of herself and has good values. It's a bonus when a woman has some…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:28 PM
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Yipees, sweaty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:22 PM
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I'm...sorry? Where do you think sperm goes in a vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:16 PM
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You're like, the simp crusader. There's no experience a man can relate to you from a male perspective that you could possibly accept in good faith. The problem must by that my pride was hurt. No, my pride has no connection to my pp. She was a fucking hairy ogre, but she was funny and made effort to sleep with my so I went with it. It's not that complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:10 PM
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Try telling a casual dude to adjust his angle and the same thing happens. I do not care, even a teeny tiny bit, because it's the men women are choosing to have sex with. The characteristics that might make a woman want to have sex with a man may very well be the same characteristics that allow a man to not have to worry about her pleasure. I mean, did it seriously never occur to you that bitches ain't shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:07 PM
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Maybe I'm biased
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:57 PM
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It's a weighted ball women can carry around in their vaginas to make them tighter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:56 PM
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Most women don't wash inside their vaginas. And it doesn't matter how self cleaning a vagina is if a woman fucked a guy without a condom 3 days ago guess what you're licking down?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:53 PM
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redpill/MGTOW/incel ideas like hypergamy Hypergamy isn't an idea that derives from those groups, it's a behavior that women exhibit due to an abundance of sexual attention and not having to initiate. Incels didn't come up with the idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaGpSoLDUZs Female value depreciates over time because women demand things of men that men do not need from women, like high income, social status, great looks, being well endowed etc. There's a male hierarchy because women built i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:43 AM
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wowoz sweaty you sound like an incel jihadist me and my doggo funkos are going to report you to the secret service
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:40 AM
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Hardly every time. And a male orgasm isn't the same as a female orgasm. Stop comparing the two. Do you not understand that they're not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:35 AM
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No because I'm not an STD petri dish? That's disgusting. The Y is my favorite restaurant, but not when I hardly know a woman. Fucking sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:33 AM
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Did you know that men often refuse to go down on a woman in a casual setting? Oh my god, why would a guy go down on a woman during casual sex? That's disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:32 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaGpSoLDUZs The entire scope of dating problems are crated by female hypergamy. It has nothing to do with men. Women are hypergamous, never approach men and expect men to do all of the initiating and escalating, meanwhile men can get publicly shamed for even expressing love at the wrong time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:31 AM
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It's probably more like 90%. A more plausible explanation is that 75% of women women are retards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:25 AM
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The traits women select for when selecting a partner to have casual sex with ensure they're selecting a partner that doesn't care about their orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:23 AM
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That's the biggest lie I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:23 AM
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Male orgasm and female orgasm are not the same. That's why the overwhelming majority of men can't have back to back orgasms in rapid succession and women don't ejaculate every time they cum. It's apples and oranges, stop comparing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:19 AM
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Female sexual response isn't complicated. Get over yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:18 AM
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None of which you get in casual encounters Maybe you have dogshit choice in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:17 AM
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He's not wrong though. A woman I slept with over a year ago made fun of me to her friends for not being able to keep it up with her. The problem was that she was a rather ugly single mom. I only slept with her because she was quite funny, friendly, and the way we met made it super easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:17 AM
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imagine being you and calling someone else's posts simpy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:13 AM
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Not necessarily. It's not uncommon to encounter a woman with a vagina that's so loose having sex with her isn't really worth while and you might as well just use your hands on her. Also a male orgasm isn't really the same as a female orgasm. That's why women don't ejaculate every time they cum. Plenty of women experience very intense full body pleasure despite not orgasming, so it's not really the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:16 AM
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Most of women's difficulty orgasming comes from having a small clitoris, never having masturbated, having a big vagina, having poor vaginal muscle tone or being overweight. When you start combining more of these elements a woman might have an incredibly hard time orgasming. Even something as basic as buying ben wa balls to tighten up many women, especially feminists are unwilling to do that, even though they would directly benefit from being able to achieve orgasms much easier. So it's no compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:04 AM
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It's a false comparison. Male orgasm and female orgasm aren't the same. Plenty of women receive immense pleasure from sex even if they aren't orgasming. It's the same reason we don't think a woman didn't have a good time because she didn't ejaculate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 05:28 AM
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Wow, that's a very insightful point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaGpSoLDUZs Can you tell me of anything that exists on any market that goes up in value with usage and age?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:33 AM
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I'm basing it off talking to women without judging them, and them giving me their honest opinion. I guarantee they can guess size.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:31 AM
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Think of the most unattractive woman and most attractive man you can find casual amateur porn of, and search for it on Pornhub or Xhamster or something. When you get multiple pages of results you've found your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:24 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0W-cX2G4Ks Imagine being a man and being a sugar baby. Women are part of a gender that don't actually provide anything to the other gender other than their bodies and wombs. So a rich woman means nothing to a man but a rich man means everything to a woman. It's not really men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:15 AM
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OP, you're wrong about dick size. Women think average is 7ish inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:00 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:35 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:45 PM
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In my scenario where I said a man was lied to about a woman he was dating about being on birth control so she could trap him you called that man a deadbeat for not wanting to raise a kid. And you're the one that said life's hard, so who the fuck cares? Either women are people and they are capable of having self interest which might lead them to take advantage of vulnerable men(and children) and we need laws that allow men to protect themselves from predatory, deadbeat moms, or guess the fuck wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 07:19 PM
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I agree, a disease that's constantly underdiagnosed in women might explain why so many of them buy into Sex And The City.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:04 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:03 AM
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It's a bad strategy for men, great for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:12 PM
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Sorry, I was trying to call you a grandma or anything, I'm just saying 2-4 ltrs and a couple of hookups is extremely understated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:11 PM
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Yeah, assholes like you do a great job convincing men not to give a single fuck about women's rights. Congrats. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 08:26 PM
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Yeah, whatever. As with everything starting from a man initially approaching a woman all the way up to childbirth, marriage and divorce, women want all of the authority and rights, but no actual responsibility for their decisions. Just like religious nuts used to tell women they shouldn't be having sex if they didn't want to care for a baby, women are telling men the same. The fact that so many misandrists can't recognize that this is the way most interactions with women go when they have someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 08:24 PM
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AidsVictim wow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:11 PM
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Fact of the matter is a lot of women were lead to believe shows like Sex And The City were a model for how women should live their lives. Be super successful in school and a career and just have sex until you're 70. It's not every woman but it's common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:10 PM
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Men that don't want children should not be forced to be fathers through a system that was meant for forcing both genders to be parents. Women that want to have a baby even though they have a choice not to, despite the father not wanting to be a father are also deadbeats. They shouldn't have a kid if they can't care for the kid alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 05:39 PM
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It's pretty obvious that I'm talking about child support. It was a totally valid mechanism for getting a man to be responsible for a woman that didn't even have the option to have an abortion, but today it's an extremely abusive system of slavery that should only be applied to abandoned marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 05:33 PM
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Yeah, I mean. It works for women because women are passive. That's the entire problem with dating in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:05 AM
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There isn’t anything inappropriate or deceptive or wrong about that. I mean, again. I'm not actually accusing you or anything or saying you're a bad person or a 'slut' or that you're stupid or you're leading men on. I'm not even saying that you're the one saying that guys that want friendships to form relationships are niceguys. I was pointing out that nice guys are a byproduct of female advice that men should try to be women's friends before escalating into a relationship. I'm not saying you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 01:59 AM
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Oh, then why would men give a fuck about patriarchy? More men in prison and more men in poverty and more men homeless than women yet somehow if the we become a matriarchy it will get better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:57 PM
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But you're wrong. Nice guys approach as friends first, try to escalate into a relationship and are disappointed when it doesn't work, that's why they lash out. They're not just all randomly mentally ill assholes that want to lash out at women. They fail romantically because they're told by women to that friendship is a potential avenue for forming romantic relationships with women. For MOST men that's a potential avenue for becoming a discarded emotional tampon. For women, friendships are always…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:56 PM
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huh i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:41 PM
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That is not what I said at all. They warm up to a woman usually connected through some sort of social group, wait a while then make a move and get rejected romantically. What you described is someone attempting to form some sort of connection, I.E. a friendship with a woman, which usually fails and ends up with multiple men orbiting a woman who will have some facsimile of a unidirectional 'friendship' with them where she mostly uses them as an emotional tampon then evaporates when they need anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:40 PM
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Drink water and use lots of face cream man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:32 PM
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Errr. We're talking about nice guys. You don't understand how men are told they may be able to form a connection with women by first forming a friendship, because you don't need to know anything about how to form romantic relationships with people. Being a woman it's not really your responsibility. So your only contribution is 'ew who were these weird guys that tried to get to know me and got hurt when nothing happened. What a bunch of weirdos" right before you say you literally picked the one y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:25 PM
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Do you really want to do that with your mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:03 PM
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I'm just pointing out that since most women can get boyfriends through osmosis, saying your boyfriend was first your friend is like saying you walked into a car dealership and found a boyfriend. It's really meaningfless how you met.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:52 PM
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It's excellent advice for women since women are bystanders when it comes to dating. It's horrible advice for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 03:34 PM
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You mean as a woman you've always found it easy to find romantic partners by making friends with them first? You don't say?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:48 PM
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It doesn't mean they settle down it means they got their short term FWB or 'boyfriend' when in reality Tinder is a hookup app.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:47 PM
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Hell yeah, LOL. I could never take care of giant cows, normal sized cows are scary enough. Having pet cows seems like so much work and so much fun. That's so crazy. Congrats on your cows.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:43 AM
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But no, _Woodrow, there's a 100% chance you're going to downplay the reality that there are predatory women, everywhere in fact, and heterosexual men interested in forming real connections with heterosexual women run into them all the time, whether or not you ever do acknowledge that women are people with their own self-interest in mind. "Women who do those things are super rare or are only 2% of x y or z population and there are way more deadbeat dads out there etc etc etc." So if you're going …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:41 AM
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I mean, I absolutely understand abortion rights and never had any problem with it. The only problem I have is that men do not have a choice when it comes to fatherhood. So a man can explicitly say he does not want to be a father, but because a woman makes a choice about her body, a man no longer has his own bodily autonomy. So this leaves the door wide open for women to lie about being on birth control or tampering with condoms, or retrieving discarded condoms. A truly just system would only gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:38 AM
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So you're giving birth to cows? Do you have any mini or micro cows? I want 4 pet micro cows.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:30 AM
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Men have to actually work for sex even though women absolutely want it to. So when a man finds out a woman made him work extremely hard to get starfish sex, while everyone else got a wild wide for free, the man feels disappointed. On top of that a lot of women expect to be treated like virgins and be romanced non-stop over the entire course of a relationship. That's hard to do when you know your girlfriend used to be a toilet. Not that hard to figure out. What does your stupid flair mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:24 AM
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When you're expected to poop into your partner's butthole. That's disgusting and borderline gay but everyone does it it's so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:16 AM
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Yikes, how is this guy a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:14 AM
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Holy shit I need to try this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:12 AM
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I've read a lot that women say men are misleading them by being friendly when the man really wants sex. I mean, certainly the man wants to have sex with someone, but a lot of men were probably erroneously told by women to make friends with women before sleeping with them, which isn't really how it works at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:11 AM
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I had a roommate that was like that. This woman we both wanted to fuck picked me over him and he got really 'nice guy'ish over it. It was pretty funny because even though he was a dweeb, I was a way bigger dweeb at the time. That was the only time I've ever seen it. I've never seen it online, actually. Just guys that get pissed that women like criminals and drug dealers, because...guess what, women like criminals, and it's actually kind of the truth. Ask a woman why: https://www.youtube.com/watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 06:07 AM
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Both people aren't applying, that's why men approach. Also, I didn't say the things above, someone else did. He's right, though. Since men are the ones that are forced to approach women, show interest and escalate, promiscuous women are deemed less valuable. It's just the nature of dating dynamics. And it's exacerbated to extremes because of feminism shaming men for showing interest in women and online dating that makes dating like a buffet for women. So man A can approach a woman and she will t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:57 AM
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Women absolutely want sex, it's just that they get the attention for free. So they don't need to work for that. That's why men are the ones "applying" while women are completely passive. Why do you think their best advice is 'just take a shower, and be nice' and people will accept you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:44 AM
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Dude, plenty of women are okay with meeting up with a guy from an app for a one night stand trust me. The reason there are less women on it is because they find a partner then leave. They don't stay on the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:42 AM
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sorry your friends suck. Wow, they were women and feminists, and you're saying they suck? Wow, that's an amazing idea. Some women, even woman feminists are garbage. Acknowledging that is an important first step for many women, good on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:16 AM
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All of it's sad tbh. Buying a ring for yourself and making fun of someone that feels the need to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 12:13 AM
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I got banned from Askmen for saying a guy that was in his 20's shouldn't date a woman in her 30's with kids.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 12:07 AM
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Predatory AF.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 12:05 AM
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How is screenshotting people's face from Tinder allowed on this site. It's super bad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/01/21 12:02 AM
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It's a literal proven scientific fact that vaginal tightness or looseness is primarily determined by the woman's arousal at the time Provide sources or stfu? I'm telling you from first hand experience vaginas can be tight and wet or loose and wet. Hell, some vaginas are very loose and stay dry. Am I a liar? It might feel different for the woman from day to day, but how women feel is not scientific proof that it feels different to men. It sounds like this is simply a case of your entire knowledge…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:52 PM
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I've seen women I know personally talk about exes or friends that 'became incels' because they expressed dissatisfaction with the dating scene. When I explained to them that they would have no idea what the dating scene is because they get attention for free, guess what they said I sounded like? I know how women are based off my experiences with them, it has nothing to do with reddit sweaty. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 09:08 PM
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It is? Over 50% of dating happens on dating apps. That's the reason women are so comfortable with imagining that men approaching them in public are predatory. They don't need extra attention because they get to select whatever they want online for free. Dating was broken before dating apps, but dating apps exacerbated existing problems to extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 08:57 PM
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I would urge you to grow a penis and understand that all vaginas feel different without a condom, but no vagina simply feels different from day to day. The sensation of tightness/looseness is completely different from dryness/wetness. The tightest vagina I've experienced was the wettest by far and the loosest was also very wet. Regardless of relatively wetness or dryness how tight they feel stays the same. I also know from first hand experience dating women that were tight, and later found large…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 08:14 PM
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Does anything you just said change the fact that using pictures like this will get men responses on dating apps with the same ease a woman gets, whereas being an average man won't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:11 PM
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Sex does. As someone that actually interacts with vaginas using a penis, they don't get tighter or looser based on arousal. Some vaginas are just tighter and some are way larger. Never dated a woman that was on either end and would change from day to day or based on arousal. It's a feminist lie to make women feel like penises are always the problem if sex isn't perfect. So a woman can feel tight one day, loose the next, tight the next, etc depending on how into it the woman is at that time. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:08 PM
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Dating in the workplace is a bit tricky. Never take any advice from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:56 PM
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Woman: I want to choose whether or not to be a parent. Man: Yeah, that makes sense, you should be able to choose! Woman: Great, the law has passed! Man: Awesome, I'm so happy for you. I want to be able to get a paper abortion so that malicious actors can't use my-- Woman: IT TAKES TWO TO MAKE A BABY, YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO, DEADBEAT DAD, YOU SHOULD HAVE USED A CONDOM, ONCE IT LEAVES YOUR BODY ITS HER SPERM ​ Are you sure you're not retarded? You really seem to hate logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:50 PM
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I'm not hurt. It's true. It's not because women are stronger, it's socialization imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:39 PM
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oh okay
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:38 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:38 PM
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Who says?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:37 PM
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Sex does impact vagina size. It's just that some virgins and young women still have looser vaginas for whatever reason. Some women start off tight and after a few months they're not tight anymore. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:37 PM
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Yeah, they probably lie to you because you would call them incels and stop talking to them if they expressed any difficulty doing things that you get for free, shit for brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:35 PM
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Yeah. Every guy dreams of going to a party with his girlfriend he had to convince to date her, be continually charming and sexually desirable to get sex, maintain a well paying job for, prove his social worth to, profess his undying love for, only to go out in public with her and discover that she's 'good friends' with every guy on the block. Imagine going to a party with your girlfriend who you thought was a normal person and not extremely promiscuous only to find out that her nickname is Rimjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:34 PM
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you're right yo uwont bitch about eating my ass
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:31 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 05:46 AM
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you're clueless how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:45 AM
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man you really dont know what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:44 AM
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is it because the hot girl is just so lucky to get sex immediately, where the sweet girl has to work harder This is why you don't know wtf you're talking about. Either of them could get sex whenever they want to, and neither of them have to approach men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:44 AM
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I'm not buying into anything. Actually, can you please stop replying to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:32 AM
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Psh. Fuck off troll. Men not wanting promiscuous women is a byproduct of dating dynamics. It's not my fault it is the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:22 AM
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How would you know? I'm the one that knows men, and understand the reasons why they don't want a long term relationship with a promiscuous women. You only have the mindset of a woman, the gender that demands men be promiscuous, know women that are promiscuous, and a few men that are willing to tolerate them. You can't even articulate why men wouldn't want promiscuous women enough to prove that some men do want them, yet you're telling me that I'm wrong somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 04:07 AM
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Neither does yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:55 AM
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educated & thin like that girl either. So, that's def a misrepresentation. IMAGINE THINKING ONLY EDUCATED AND THIN GIRLS ARE FINDING RELATIONSHIPS
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:52 AM
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Never seen it in my life. But you do you, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:51 AM
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Yeah, I've never heard of that or seen that in real life. Only from women on PPD that insist that promiscuous women are desired and trying to justify their own lifestyle choices(to themselves btw because nobody cares)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:46 AM
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Seriously doubtful. I've had many female friends that are proudly promiscuous, and I'm basing my lack of desire for promiscuous women on them. Any woman that's had that number of partners by her early 20's is not a serious option in my mind and most men's minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:43 AM
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I know. Some virgins are like that, too. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:40 AM
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Ew. I don't care about punishing anyone. I know for a fact that most women want and need sex more than men. I also know that women that have had say, 30+ partners by her late 20's struggles because she's never been in a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:38 AM
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You don't need to justify your weight. It's just kind of funny that you're excluding 85% of men based on height. And that's just height. When you mix in penis size weight, income etc. When you add in just penis size that women think is average, 7 inches, you're down to less than 1% based on two factors. Women take decades to figure this out because they're the ones that aren't approaching men. Men approach women. Often times for sex, to see where it goes. So you can just sit around and wait for …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:34 AM
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They struggle to keep relationships and can only get into them in the first place by lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:26 AM
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High n count women aren't desirable to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:20 AM
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Are no-n women that only want their first experience to be with an experienced man predators too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:18 AM
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I mean, I'm not an incel. I'm just well aware that women care deeply about superficial qualities, are hypergamous, and never approach men. Most women aren't anything special and don't deserve male sympathy. When you tell a woman that men should have reproductive rights they're told the exact same things women were told when they wanted abortion rights. So, it's like feminists wanted the help of men to get the rights they wanted, but any male feminists that wanted the same rights were told by wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:14 AM
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youre a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:11 AM
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I've seen and met women like this from dating apps. It's not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:11 AM
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these are the assholes men are talking to on ppd. narcissistic solipsists who are desperately trying to disprove that men exist and actually experience things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:10 AM
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Women want sex more than men. If you don't understand that, you've never been desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:08 AM
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Well, no, actually. I wasn't equivocating anything. I was just saying life is hard and men shouldn't care about the struggles of non men. Life is hard, cry some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:06 AM
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How does men pointing out that using an image like this is the only way to get affirmative responses from women on OLD sites perpetuating the reality that women are like this? Women were like this before men started saying they were like this. That's why your post doesn't make sense. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 03:03 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. I don't have any of these problems, and I've opted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:16 AM
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It's accurate, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:06 AM
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Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:05 AM
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The patron saint of incels is blackops2cel
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:02 AM
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bro you dont need to take calculus, precalculus, trig, geometry or algebra to know that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:01 AM
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592 divided by zero is still zero ffs dude. i call you a retard from time to time but you didn't have to do it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 02:00 AM
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There's always a risk of blowing up a friendship doing that. Wow you're right. Men should just: you develop the social capital before you try approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:43 AM
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That's the exact response men should have had for women who were victims of rape or sex trafficked or being abused by an employer or being forced to have a child they didn't want or married to an adult as a child. Like, who cares anymore, right? Certainly, men shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:20 AM
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Do you believe that women are employers that should expect to hire male applicants?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:03 AM
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Not to mention the fact that women will reject men publicly and shame them just for approaching and expressing interest, to signal to other men that she's more desirable, and for their own ego. And it has nothing to do with how the guy approached, but how it made her feel. Consequently, a guy can lose any 'social capital' they needed to get a woman. Women don't understand any of this or need to because they get these things for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 12:21 AM
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Imagine being so extremely narcissistic as a woman that you think just because men are approaching you you're an employer and men are your employees? That's not even to mention the fact that women notoriously reject men just for their own ego, then parade around the fact that they rejected somebody to announce to the world that they're a more desirable woman, which effectively harms men's social prospects. Unbelievably fucking delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:53 PM
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Oh, so after literally being this meme, you started asking men out? Kevin Samuels is right, you can't make this shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:56 PM
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Unless you're going to be tounge-in-ass-cheek shut the fuck up please.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:37 PM
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You can't be 16-18 and be an incel. Inceldom has nothing to do with the fact that other people are having sex and you haven't had sex yet. It's a prolonged period of time without any relationships or sex. It's completely retarded to call young kids drafted into a war virgins, then claim the entire reason they committed terrorist acts is they were incels. You would have to be fucking stupid to even say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:37 PM
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Uh, no. Men aren't waiting around for women to approach them, that's the entire problem with dating. Women actually are the picture above.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:35 PM
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That's not really true. Women are on OLD for shorter amounts of time because they are immediately gifted a harem upon signing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:02 PM
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Women are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:00 PM
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Wow, they were young boys used for terrorism and the most distinguishing factor these retards from FDS can come up with to explain a motivation is that they were virgins? No shit, they were kids genius. Use your fucking brain. Most terrorists aren't virgins or incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:59 PM
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What does it matter when most terrorism is not carried out by incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:58 PM
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Whatever. Women sit around and wait for male approaches. That's the entire problem with modern dating. Women constructed rules that are designed to penalize men socially for approaching or escalating, when neither of those things are performed by women. The rules are constructed as if men should be the ones waiting for female approaches, yet women never approach. They actually do exactly what's in the meme. So how is it a good contribution? It's fucking retarded, like most of spacechicken's post…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:58 PM
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I don't understand how they thought this was a good meme. This is precisely what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:55 PM
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I’m a woman Who the fuck cares? Most of her contribution are incredibly myopic and are based in the notion that men aren't contributing in good face based on lived experiences. So what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:53 PM
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Specific characteristics that change depending on whichever woman is using them to shame a man at any given moment. So in essence a man can be called an incel despite having sex, because it's convenient to some political troll, but men in their early 20's that are ignored by women can't have an identity and aren't allowed to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:50 PM
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So most shooters are incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:47 PM
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