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CMVhana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:29 AM
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hana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 06:32 AM
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Debatehana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:33 PM
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LIES MEN TELLhana9emi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy12/09/19 02:20 AM
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hana9emi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/09/19 02:14 AM
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Discussionhana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 11:37 AM
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hana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:59 AM
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hana9emi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy06/10/19 07:20 AM
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Question For Womenhana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:27 AM
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Question For Womenhana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:12 AM
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hana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:10 PM
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Question For Menhana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 09:58 AM
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hana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 02:35 PM
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hana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:49 AM
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hana9emi/r/RedPillWomen27/05/19 06:16 AM
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hana9emi/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:37 PM
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hana9emi/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/10/19 09:17 PM
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DISCUSSIONhana9emi/r/RedPillWomen04/09/19 03:07 AM
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lol yeah I did cosplay modeling after losing weight, I am surely 3/10 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:00 PM
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Unsolicited d*ck pics are for retards and loser. It happened to me with a guy I had a crush on, and it made me feel like he was an idiot who thought only about sex, so my crush ended. I also do not like sexting in general. Only phone sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:24 PM
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There is no feminime or masculine except maybe magenta which is very bold. I think a woman should choose colors according to her seasonal palette. I am an autumn so I tend to choose beige, orange, dark green, dark red, turquoise, teal, mustard, dark brown, purple etc.
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/19 06:55 AM
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I am 24F and having the same problem! For now I am dating guys who I met online. I recommend you joining a meetup group, going to a course like foreign language or cooking, speed dating
/r/RedPillWomen06/07/19 06:53 AM
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So in order to avoid cancer we should have tons of babies? Lmao even birth control reduces ovarian cancer and some other cancers. Also, pregnancy increases the risk of having autoimmune diseases come up and leukemia risk as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 04:24 PM
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You said that car travel poses risks yet we do not refrain from it. We women can refrain to have children. We can be childfree or adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:56 PM
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They do not always repair, most of them takes years and/or surgery. And such things bring incontinence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:54 PM
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It happes to one out of 10 women. Not like some rare diseases like ameba meningitis which happen to 1 person out of 1 million people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:35 PM
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lol yeah stretch marks, uterine prolapse, saggy boobs and abdomen, weight gain, hair loss, melasma etc makes you beautiful! why 82% of cheaters cheat after having a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:55 PM
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It is not mandatory to have kids. also, there is adoption or foster care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:54 PM
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My grandparents fought and enjoyed their lives after world war. They traveled in the 1970s. They opened a shop (nowadays you need much more money to do so). They were able to pay uni for their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:53 PM
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there are plenty of old people who die alone in nursing homes. Having a kid is not a garantee. If you have enough money for a good retirement home it is better than an ungrateful kid. Also, in 2019, we women also work full time. How can we care 24/7 for a sick parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 12:30 PM
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Lol what? Hyperemesis gravidum exist. Many women end up having a uterine prolapse, incontinence, episiotomy, vaginal tears, feeling numb. Some women even got strokes or colostomies due to pregnancy and childbirth. ​ As the user Jr Milton wrote, A new study by Kaiser Permanente found that one-third of women suffer from one or more pelvic floor disorders, which include symptoms such as the frequent urge to urinate, dropped pelvic organs, and incontinence. The study consists of the broadest age ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 12:09 PM
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:) Thank you for proving I was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 12:08 PM
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Exactly. Also called husband stitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:44 AM
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Depends on the woman. One out of 10 women will get a vaginal tear. Most women need to get a episiotomy. Most women end up peeing while sneezing or laughing after having a baby. There are even women who ended up having a colostomy, a stroke or dying while giving birth. It is not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:17 AM
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I wanted to give support and validation to OP though as it is clear most people sugarcoat pregnancy and babies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:16 AM
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Bullshit. Most women need to get a episiotomy (literally they cut your vagina while you give birth) or get a vaginal tear (one out of 10 woman) or even worse a uterine prolapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:16 AM
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That is why we middle class are dying Why living a life where you just work eat sleep and reproduce? No hobbies, no fun at all for another person when we are already 8+ millions? Not worth it if you can not have a decent life anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:14 AM
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Yeah sorry typo. Actually it does exist. Many women have to do episiotomy. Basically they cut your vagina if it is too tight and the head of the baby can not pass properly. It happens to a lot of women. After an episiotomy you need stitches. Many husbands ask for a little bit tighter than before vagina. This brings vaginal scarring and painful intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:13 AM
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Welfare in most countries is just for single moms. That is why single moms are increasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:09 AM
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It is because many people have babies without any financial or emotional planning that there are many criminals or not well adjusted adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:00 AM
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There is no more class mobility in 2019 late stage capitalism. Very few poor people end up becoming rich. Most rich people were already rich or middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:59 AM
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Have you ever heard of uterine prolapse? Vaginal tear? 3rd and 4th degree vaginal tear basically makes vagina and anus a single hole. And they happen one every ten woman. Not so few If vagina always bounced back, why does the "husband stitch" or vaginoplasty exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:59 AM
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I am leaning to childfree because of all the reasons you listed. I think in 2019, with automatization (which will make blue collars and even some white collars unemployable or payed even less... in 2030 800 million jobs wordlwide will be lost because of it), overpopulation, recruiting hell/fierce competition in job market, global warming etc, only rich people could benefit / be able to have kids and give them a decent, enjoyable life, and I think governements should encourage couples everywhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:53 AM
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Yeah they are very rare. Of course it would be positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:38 AM
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Yeah I forgot a comma Saving money to visit Japan or Mexico at least once in a lifetime is much more realistic than "becoming the new Bezos"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:08 PM
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Saving up to visit x countries in the world is a project Studying to get into grad school is a project Working as a chef in a new restaurant is a project
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:49 AM
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It would feel creepy and thirsty I want a man who has a solid project and not too much unrealistic dreams like saving up money to visit x countries, or working in x field, something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:38 AM
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Such men whose main goal is women are usually polygamous.
/r/RedPillWomen30/06/19 07:25 AM
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1) your money is your money 2) you are not married so he has no right to know He is borderling controlling..
/r/RedPillWomen29/06/19 05:06 PM
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I feel 90% childfree for the time being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 09:09 AM
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What kind of business did you start? If you have just a high school diploma there is not much you can do online
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:38 AM
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In 2019 multigenerational teen pregnancies are a recipe for perpetual poverty.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/19 09:54 PM
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Younger men do not make a good prospect as providers, stable figures if we are talking of a 18 years old VS a 27 years old woman If we talk about a 32 years old woman and a 28 years old man then yes, it can work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:04 AM
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For wrinkles there are hyaluronic acid fillers, botox or lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:20 PM
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The problem is that nowadays you need two full time jobs for a barely lower middle class lifestyle in urban cities. In the past one person working 9-5 was more than enough for 2-4 kids ane a Sahm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:14 PM
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"""This is true for me. I don't like competing where I am not obligated to do it. I want to be my partner's best option and I want her to know that I am exactly that.""" <--- so basically you are advocating to keep women always at home or with you? Sounds like an extremist muslim. Perhaps you could make your woman wear burqa when she is in public places
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:04 PM
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More men want children because most of them do not ever do childcare lol also men do not have to deal with pregnancy or painful childbirth. Hence why there are more childfree women than men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:57 PM
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So according to your way of thinking if the men works 8-10 hour a day is ok? How many hours should a woman with a school aged child could work to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 05:49 PM
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She has a child. It's written on her profile.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/19 03:30 PM
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Sounds logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:05 PM
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Well, if a woman studies a major or in at university where most students are women, it is not as easy. For such women it is easier to meet a man from another uni or major on Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:38 PM
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You can search on the internet anything against career women sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:28 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:28 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:27 PM
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Exactly. If men fear divorce rape, they should not get married with a bimbo with no education, interests and job
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:27 PM
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yeah indeed I feel like a purple pill. I agree that both some men and women have crazy high standards yet they have low value themselves, but for the rest I more liberal than conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:25 PM
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1) There is a middle way between being a leech who never works in entire life and asks for a luxurious life and between a super career rich women who works every day 12+ hours 2) Many career women are very good mothers. Especially once children start to go to school, a career woman can come back with her career with no penalty if she did not stop working for too much time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:24 PM
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Anyone stuck with baby care with no nursery/school breaking it has a much lower level of life. If she earns well, can't she pay sometimes for sitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:04 PM
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I've read these tropes a lot sadly, both in American and European websites/social media. Indeed. But going to university just to land a husband is not really a good idea. One person should both study and try to date/make connections while at uni
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 02:01 PM
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Among red pillers and trad con guys, yes. They think it's a waste of time and money for women as they will become mothers sooner or later lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:50 PM
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I know yet I read many American or European red pillers saying one income is more than enough, and women who want like 1 vacation per year or basic skincare are entitled princesses lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:47 PM
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I live in Milan, Italy, and even if it's full of hot 20 years old women, almost none of them are getting married. Median age of marriage here is 31 for women, 36 for men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:45 PM
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How psychology is a bullshit degree? Does not sounds like a "hawaiian dance" degree. It's difficult. I have a friend majoring in psychology to treat people with anorexia and bulimia and she has many difficult exams.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:44 PM
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I agree. Also here in Europe it is the same. Surely there are few girls like that, but they are like 10% of all classroom? And surely they do not fuck during lessons lol. They meet outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:43 PM
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I am European and live in Europe, here universities are much cheaper, in some cases almost free.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:43 PM
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If you study in a college where most students are women, it is difficult to find a husband in college. Most medium class men will marry a younger woman, but not a 20 years old younger woman. Most men marry 3-7 years younger women. Big age gap brings significant risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:39 PM
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There is a middle way between marrying at 22 and marrying at 35
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:21 PM
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What's unintelligent in my comment lmao?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:36 PM
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I will soon start grad school and I graduated with honors from undergraduate. so you are talking with the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 10:07 PM
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Why don't you settle for a middle class girl? lmao. You want a rich girl without offering her the same lifestyle?
/r/askTRP25/06/19 03:26 PM
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Such men who put down every action a woman takes are just envious and mysoginist
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:58 PM
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I guess sadly this happen a lot when women get pregnant. Sadly many husbands stop treatin their wives well once she is pregnant/gives birth
/r/RedPillWomen25/06/19 12:44 PM
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Exactly. Being thin is deeply linked to being middle/upper middle class, being rich enough to have time and money for gym, dietician, healthy food such as salmon, avocado, fresh veggies, nuts (pizza or hamburgers are much cheaper but fattening) + money for future plastic surgery to bounce back in case of pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:15 AM
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In Italy, especially Northern Italy, indeed men prefer thin stick women. I dropped from a US size 10 to a US size 4 (European Size 36) yet I am still called chubby. Maybe that is why many Italian men drool other Sweds or other Nordic girls. They like really tall and thin women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:14 AM
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Then how she got his property? In Italy alimony is given only for older spouse. Like, 50/60+ woman/man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/19 08:48 AM
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Then he outearned his ex wife. In this case it was the opposite :)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/19 07:46 AM
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Us size 6 is a Uk size 10. European size 38. Not fat but neither skinny.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/06/19 06:22 AM
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The social safety net is bullshit except for health.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:57 PM
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I have already dropped from a size 10 to a size 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:56 PM
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I am 168 and 55 kg. US size 4 is equal to European size 36. I wear EU size 36, UK size 8. Is that obese? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 04:53 PM
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Surely no. Me neither. That is why we women initiate divorce. We much prefer being alone than with a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:03 PM
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I used to be a size us 10, now I am a us size 4, so I know discipline, idiot. You are not a woman. You have no idea how it is difficult to manage a baby and bounce back at the same time. Starving oneself is not enough to bounce back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 03:02 PM
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Because women prefer to be single than staying married with a cheater or abusive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:43 PM
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Excuse? Lol. If you are already not stick thin with a super fast metabolism, you need time and money for a sitter, gym trainer, dietician and healthy food to get back in shape. Still, many women have a permanent weight gain after pregnancy. Also, other aesthetical problems such as saggy boobs or diastasi recti require plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:43 PM
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Get fat. Lol. Maybe she had kids? Not all women are cheaters. Most cheaters are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 01:33 PM
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For successful I do not mean Bezos-like rich. I mean like moderately solid middle or upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:08 AM
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Indeed. Men who put too much emphasis on youth often are the ones who end up replacing their wife once she is 30-40
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:06 AM
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I know, it looks like redpillers live in 1960 or in some third world country
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:04 AM
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Thank you. I am single since a few months and have been in nun mode, lol. Guess I will start dating again in a few weeks with no rush/anxiety but being careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 08:04 AM
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Sadly it still depends vastly on genetics so the age is not so important. Also, very young mothers tend to get more stretch marks as they also have puberty hormones going. I am not worried about me becoming a starter wife. I am 24. I am already ""past my peak""" lool. But I was wondering if this redpill statement is not really good during this time and age
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:02 AM
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Lol I was much worse at 18 than now at 24. I had a lot of acne, still did not develop completely in height and boobs, had a horrible fashion sense. Plus I was chubby. Many women who are more beautiful later were much worse during the red pill peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:59 AM
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When you are older looks count less so you have less to lose. Children of older parents are more intelligent and also wealthier. Having children before 30 in a urban city in the West in 2019 is a recipe for poverty and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:22 AM
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They initiate divorce because they have pride. Most men cheat, especially after the birth of a baby. Many men want to keep both wife at home and mistress outside. Women prefer divorcing than having to deal with this bullshit. That is why divorces are more often initiated by women For a man a wife is very useful ad she cooks, cleans, take care of children and have sex with you. So they will divorce only if you are not useful to them anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:14 AM
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But redpillers and incels hate educated women and they consider every 25+ woman as expired...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:12 AM
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Age gap in most marriages is of 3-5 years Marriage with a big gap usually do not last Also, if a man has a sort of youthness fetish, he is more likely to ditch his wife for a even younger model. Like when he is 50 and she is 40, he could leave her for a 25 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:09 AM
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She could have a MBA, that does not mean she is working. I even know a SAHM who has a phD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:04 AM
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Pregnancy does ruin the body of a woman. Weight gain (that sometimes is permanent despite dieting and exercising), saggy boobs, protruding belly, stretch marks, hair loss, melasma... There are surely women who bounce back but they are a tiny percentage and most of the women who bounce back are UMC with enough time and money for gym/dietician/plastic surgery (as saggy boobs and belly pot can be fixed only with surgery) Not to talk about pain, incontinence and many other problems many women have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:01 AM
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Actually the second reason for divorce is economical problems. Which usually get worse after the birth of a child
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:59 AM
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Sugar babies, not wives
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:57 AM
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It is important but men get tired with starter wife because she is not as hot as she used to be.. not because of her lack of education or career..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:57 AM
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That is bullshit. Most early marriages have indeed children earlier. And children is the biggest factor which brings male adultery and economical problems 82% of men cheaters cheat right after having children
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:55 AM
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With this economic crisis where even people with a master or 10 + years work experience struggle?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 05:50 AM
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Sadly my grad school has 90% female students (language major you know..) but never say never lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:04 PM
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As I said here in Italy alimony is given only if the starter wife is 50-60+ If you get married at 20-25 and your husband leaves you at 30-40, you will not get alimony (only the child will, and very few money. Like 300 euro a month) because the law says that a 30-40 years old woman can go back to uni/trade school with good future employement prospects lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 10:03 PM
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No I am 24 and single. I started dating again recently and I wanna more cautious and understand the red flags for bad LTR soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 08:42 PM
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RP says marry a beta bux because alpha will not commit. A successful man to me is a alpha, not a beta
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:20 PM
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I have already lost 25 lbs, I am now a size US 4, used to be US size 10. I am still into my usual nerdy and artsy hobbies, graduated from undegraduate and soon will start with graduate. I am no low quality. I guess medium quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 05:03 PM
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Interesting. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 05:02 PM
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Exactly, I am really scared it might happen to me so I am extracautious My mom and dad are still together and I guess my mom did not become a starter wife even if she was mostly a housewife because: my dad is a huge introvert nerd they met after he graduated, and she did not know he was an engineer while dating. He told her much later he was in order to avoid "goldigging" my dad is 7 years older my dad prefers slightly overweight women so the weight gain from aging and pregnancy did not affet th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:28 PM
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In Italy in the last 10-5 years a man has to give alimony to uneducated wife only if she is quite old and can not train herself anymore (like if she is 50-60+ with no degrees and/or relevant job experience) So if you marry at 20-25 and he leaves you at 30-40, the judge will not give you alimony because you will be considered young enough to restart university or trade school (even if you are poor and/or have young children...)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:25 PM
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Thank you. I agree with that. Nowadays both parties in a couple should make decent money and be educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:23 PM
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This. Also, the upgrade wives are usually young hot golddiggers... not some accomplished women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:23 PM
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Lol I will start grad school soon. Why do you assume I am a leech?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:21 PM
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I wanna her advice from every pill. Blue, red, purple, black, pill..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:34 PM
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Divorce rates are lower because marriage rates are lower
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:33 PM
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My dad is a huge nerd and he is still with my mom after 30+ years. They met after he graduated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:33 PM
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Thank you for the tips
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:32 PM
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Thank you. I will soon start grad school :) working on my future career but also looking to date. I am sorry for your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 01:31 PM
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Sounds good
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 09:20 AM
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That is why I think betting on potential is very risky because 1) if he does not become successful/at least medium earned, goodbye to middle class. In order to be middle class nowadays both partners need to be at least medium earners 2) if he ends up succesful he may leave you for a younger model once he is rich
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 09:20 AM
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So engineers/programmers usually stick with their wives even when they get old?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:38 AM
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A man with the same height as me is ok, lol. I am 168 and dated men as tall as me. I have already dropped in size from a size 10 to a size 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 07:37 AM
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At least not shorter than me (170). I dated 170 men in Japan, also in Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 05:55 AM
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Body shape is about both bone structure + fat distribution. Not just fat. I am a hourglass, according to Kibbe I am a soft dramatic woman. So both my bone structure and fat distrubution is hourglass. When I was fat I also had much bigger breast (now a cup C, used to be a cup E)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:39 PM
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I have already lost 25 lbs. My BMI is 20. I am a US size 4. If I wanted to be a size 0, I would need to regularly skip meals forever or start smoking. Lol. My dietician confirmed I can not get less than that as my bone structure is a hourglass. A rectangle or an apple shaped woman can surely have small hips. But that is impossible for a hourglass or a pear shaped woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:38 PM
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Men does not do it, not women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 03:52 PM
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I guess you are a pear. I am a hourglass. I think no one should starve themselves to lose weight. Eating more healthy and exercising is good instead. I lost weight because I was bullied and
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 03:03 PM
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We use little spoon method.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:49 PM
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Bullshit. There are plenty of researches about it. Also cortisone, anti depressants or anti breast cancer medication makes gain weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:49 PM
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I eat 1200 calories a day. Before I used to eat 1600
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:32 PM
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It does. That is why women who are on birth control pill gain weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:31 PM
2

I have many hobbies since my teenage years. I got my bachelor degree one year ago and in October I will start graduate school. I have also studied abroad in Japan. It is not like I just did looksmax and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:28 PM
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I guess I need to get used to salty breakfast. In Italian culture salty breakfast is really rare. But I will give it a try
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:24 PM
2

I have already lost weight. From 70 kg to 55 kg (from Us size 10 to Us size 4). I am already eating few and exercising.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:14 PM
1

Make concret examples of food good for breakfast. Avocado? Salmon?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:10 PM
1

I am not diabetic. My sugar level used to be 100 when I was 70 kg. After getting to 55 it is now 80. Pain from hunger is not psychological. Starving is painful. Skipping meals if you already eat few is painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:03 PM
0

So what should i eat for breakfast, air?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:59 PM
1

I use apps, I always check portions except Saturday where I eat a more caloric breakfast. I also stopped drinking soda for good and drink only a glass of wine every 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:58 PM
2

Estrogen makes people fat. In fact birth control pill is made of estrogens and make gain weight and/or cellulitis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:57 PM
1

I am not. I use an app for it and always measure stuff except Saturday.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:56 PM
1

My face is not as good. Also my colors are different. I have brown eyes, ivory beige skin, red blonde hair (autumn girl). Think of Julia Roberts or Isla Fischer colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:56 PM
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I have 3 very light meals a day. I eat Whole grains cereals with nuts, low fat milk and a fruit per breakfast Protein and vegetables or lunch. Usually breast chicken with tomato sauce or tuna salad. Twice a week I eat pasta or pizza (small portion) with simple tomato sauce (no ham or other greasy stuff) Same for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:54 PM
1

Many women are fat due to medication or hormonal problems. Not all fat women are lazy pigs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:49 PM
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I wish I had her face but at least the body I have now is very similar to her. But still not good enough I guess. I need to starve myself according to the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:48 PM
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Of course I struggle with insecuriy since when I was a US size 10 I was bullied and men always avoided me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:47 PM
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Men are shallow if they want girls to starve themselves to look skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:46 PM
1

I have no double chin (even when I was 70 kg I never had it) neither cellulitis (i had it but removed it with creams). I dress feminime, mostly a line skirt or dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:45 PM
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I know but meny men are clueless about women bodies. They think that wide bony hip structure can be changed by diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:44 PM
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They were not low value, some of them were decent. The fact that before losing weight yet having the same hobbies (videogames, cartoons, art, traveling) and same personality I got no interest from anyone is it a proof of how men sadly do care about thinness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:43 PM
1

I eat dinner very early since starting my weight loss, around 7 pm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:41 PM
1

I indeed quoted Jennifer Lawrence. My weight loss physique is very similar to hers. Yet I am called chubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:41 PM
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Now that I lost weight my phisique is similar to the one of Jennifer Lawrence during Hunger Games. Or Sabrina (the blonde witch girl, 90s drama, not the remake). I am a hourglass so I have broad shoulders and broad hips + thin waist. I am not petite, I am 5'6'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:40 PM
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Women are naturally prone to fat after puberty because of estrogen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:39 PM
1

I was unhealthy, now I eat very healthy except one breakfast per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:38 PM
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I am a hourglass. Maybe your woman is more like a rectangle or banana shape woman with naturally few fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:38 PM
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I am the op and I am a woman! Can't you read what I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:37 PM
1

I calory count for real. I am 168 so neither tall neither short.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:36 PM
1

My thyroid is fine. My TSH is between 2 and 1.5
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:36 PM
2

I do regular check up of hormones every 6 months, they are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:35 PM
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Not where I lived (Milan and Tokyo)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:09 PM
2

Men in Northern Italy are into thin stick women. In Southern Italy they prefer more voloptous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:08 PM
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When I was a US size 10 I was a virgin with no dates! I started having relationships and flirts after I got close to my actual weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:08 PM
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I lost that weight very slowly. Like in 3 years, gradually. I can not go under 1200, I tried and it made me faint and drop my university grades. Also it stopped my period. I just hope to keep stable at Us size 4 but it looks like it is still borderline chubby for esigent moids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:07 PM
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I eat whole grain cereals with low fat milk + a fruit. Once a week I eat a cornetto with cappuccino. If I ate typical Italian breakfast more than once a week, I would slowly gain weight back. I usually eat breakfast between 7 and 8.30 I ate a tuna salad. So as you can see I am not gorging myself neither starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:05 PM
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Thank you. I am from Italy (Milan) and studied in Tokyo for a while. I got fatshamed even after dropping to a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:56 AM
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I have tried to regularly skip breakfast. My grades worsened a lot and almost fainted at the underground station. Never again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:56 AM
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Yeah that is the problem... not that the fact women consider worthy only models nowadays. I have already lost weight. I have already improved myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:36 AM
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Thanks for your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:22 AM
1

I eat 1200 calories a day. When I was 25 lbs more, I ate 1600. I would really need to skip meals to become a size 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:21 AM
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That sucks. I have some Japanese friends and indeed they always worry about weight
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:20 AM
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So we should live like in a third world country to stay skinny?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 11:20 AM
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Here in Italy (and also Japan where I studied abroad) a US size 6 is considered borderline fat. I was a US size 10, now I am a US size 4 and sometimes I still get called chubby. Also, if you check the post I linked, you will see how many men proclaim to love thin stick women even if they need to starve themselves to stay super skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:47 AM
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I do understand it, otherwise I would have never lost weight I eat maximum 1200 calories per day. It's really few. Mostly protein and vegetables. If I wanted to get to a size 0, I would really need to starve myself. I would faint, get dizzy. I am already at my maximum tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:38 AM
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Thanks for reporting your experience. You sound like a good man, I am glad you understand how constantly dieting does ruin social opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:36 AM
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I dated Japanese men in Japan and had 2 Japanese boyfriends, with I split up from for other reasons, but some of the men I dated kept nagging me to "diet" when I was already dieting. Saying I could get smaller hips by simpling eating less. Dude, I was already eating less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:35 AM
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Usually it's Northern Italians in fact who are quite thin. In Southern Italy I am considered stick thin. in Milan/Turin area I am considered borderline chubby at 168 cm x 55 kg. When I was almost 70 kg I was considered obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:35 AM
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I've already improved. I have lost 25 lbs, from size 10 to size 4. Should I starve myself to become a 2?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:34 AM
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I am really thinking to move sometimes lol. But I have my university, my friends, my family here. I also lived in Japan for a while and encountered similar problems (being called fat even after losing weight).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:19 AM
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Glad to hear so. I think it's good to keep a minimum of calorie counting in the head, but not with calculator and not when socializing. It ruins the mood totally. Sadly, many men are into 0-2 size women despite the fact that after 20-25 in order to keep that size you need to starve yourself unless you are one of the very few fast metabolism women or with East Asian heritage etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:17 AM
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I am a hourglass and I am considered fat because here men prefer rectangle women (Milan, Italy).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:12 AM
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indeed that makes them shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 10:07 AM
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So you recommend women to skip meals for a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 08:19 PM
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So women should get to the point of starving themselves all the time in order to be considered decently attractive? Good. Horrible citing the holocaust. You disgust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:48 PM
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Also here in Italy it is terrible. You see pizza, nutella, gelato, pasta, pasticcini everywhere. There is a giant foodie culture. In Milan as it is an international city there are also many ethnic restaurants like sushi bars, ramen bars, hamburger places... and in order to socialize you need to get there. No one wants to socialize eating a apple or a salad. Yet men wonder why it is difficult to stay skinny. We women need to keep out every time how much we eat. Men have a much faster metabolism a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:46 PM
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THIS. I lost 25 pounds in 2 years during my looksmax journey. I now I am 55 kg x 168 height, UK size 8, US size 4. Before I used to be a US size 8. My natural body shape (a concept that many men DO NOT understand) is hourglass. I will always have broad shoulders, thin waist, broad hips. Because of my shape sometimes I am still called "fat" by stick thin lovers (I am from Milan which is a city full of thin models so maybe that is why). They think I could be a size 2 or 0 and reduce my hips if I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:31 PM
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If a girl is a hourglass or pear shaped, she will never be able to be under a size 4-6 as such women have wide boned hips.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:01 PM
1

how will you deal with your woman if she gets pregnant? since that brings weight gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:01 PM
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Looks and personality > how much a man earns. I work full time and pay all my own bills. Not looking for some man to do that for me. <-- You made the assumption I want a man to pay my bills. And that's not correct. I want to work. I just want my partner to work a good enough wage for a middle class lifestyle with a decent schedule like I do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:39 PM
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How will you raise children if you do not both earn enough for childcare? Their education? If you do not have children, how will you pay pension? If a couple is barely over poverty line, they would need to work forever. I guess many women do not want to end up poor and working forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:56 PM
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With the rising daycare cost and rising education cost, having a kid with a man who earns very few is really difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:45 AM
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I know. That is why indeed why marriage and birth rate are falling down. We women do not want to reproduce with so much uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:43 AM
2

I am 24.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:43 AM
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Bullshit. Many incels or normaloids complain they can not get a decent woman... then you see their ideal GF and they are supermodels LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:08 AM
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These women were good. Cute enough, well educated. They were not baby mammas, white trailer park trash, overweight, with no education, no interests etc. They wanted to date someone equal to them. And that is not even hypergamy because indeed they wanted an equal! A plumber to me is not equal to a successful journalist or teacher His female counterpart would be a hairdresser or a tailor.. not a journalist or a office worker.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/19 09:26 AM
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Waitresses rarely gets married with doctor or lawyers in 2019.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/19 09:25 AM
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Bullshit. Most plumbers or factory workers here are overweight because there is no lookism in trades (while office jobs in urban cities want at least decent looking workers), junk food due to irregular shifts, night shifts which slow down metabolism...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/06/19 09:24 AM
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Lol but creams can make the difference. Also, sun screen and smoking. My mom has very good skin. She has been doing skincare since her early 20s, always use sunscreen, non smoker. Her sister who smokes and always tans have a much worse skin.
/r/RedPillWomen21/06/19 06:57 AM
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The same could be said for men. Men say they look for a cute (not super hot), modest, simple, loving, hardworking, patient woman Yet many of men fall in love with female Alphas/Stacys (usually on the slutty side) with shit characters all the time lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:43 PM
1

The "first wrinkle" anti age creams are for 25-35 years old women. They are less greasy compared to "full" anti age creams for 35-50 years old women.
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/19 06:50 PM
4

How would she take most of his income if she outearned him by a lot?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/06/19 05:25 PM
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In Italy anyone could get such perks until 2008.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 02:06 PM
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In the 50s you wanted to enjoy the best 50s was offering and almost anyone could afford such things (like 1 month holiday, second houses at the seaside, cars, latest fridge) In 2020 you want to enjoy the best of 2020 (international travel, technology...) but only few people can afford that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:50 PM
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Yeah they do. But mostly middle class or UPM who can afford gym, fish and nuts. Working poor in Italy and France end up eating a lot of carbo so they get fatter. Also being poor increases stress and stress increases wrinkles.
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/19 01:45 PM
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In urban big cities decent looking engineers and programmers are considered a very good catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:14 PM
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It is. Before a man with a high school diploma had enough money for a home + his family with SAHM and 3 kids. Now in 2019 a man with a high school diploma, except unicorns, can only do minimum wage job forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:13 PM
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Yeah, for 4 college graduates there are 4 women and 3 men. So men are less educated than women. If a woman does not want children/wants 1 or 2 in her mid30s, she can do better by waiting instead of settling right after school. Most divorces happen when people get married before 23.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:12 PM
1

More workers than avaiable jobs is caused by overpopulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:00 PM
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For a moderately successful woman (not rich lawyers or engineers, I mean like teachers, nurses or office workers who are self sufficient) it is risky to get married and have kids with a lower earning working man as childcare is very expensive (so she will not be able to keep working for a while, and the husband's salary is too low to depend on it) and because once you stay out of the workforce with such crisis it is really difficult to re enter. Such women rightly prefer waiting or opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 12:55 PM
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In Southern Europe (Italy and France) women are reccommended to start hydra cream at 18, switch to first wrinkle anti aging at 25, full anti wrinkle at 35.
/r/RedPillWomen20/06/19 10:22 AM
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Yes. Also, I had strawberry blonde hair until puberty (I am Italian with some nordic ancestors, and for such people it is common to grow up blonde and then become darker). After puberty sadly my hair became a horrible mousy dark ash brown hair which looks almost grey. It really does not fit my golden brown eyes and ivory beige skin (my palette is autumn, so I look good with strawberry blonde hair, golden light brown or chocolate brown. Think Isla Fischer or Julia Roberts or Emma Watson or Bella …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 07:41 AM
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Cool! For me it was not that dramatic. But I think I got from 4.5/5 to 6.5/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:29 AM
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He did had work. I have been to his workplace many times and saw the schedule from the school.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:28 AM
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Because nowadays many men (men who are like Millennials or Gen X) wants a wife who works, earn money, keeps herself very sexy... yet still all the household cores and childrearing falls entirely on her. So basically many married women do not become stay at home wives/mothers yet are required to behave like one inside the house after work. Imagine a woman working 6-9 hours a day, coming back home and having to do all the chores by herself. That is terrible. Like extra unpaid work while the man do…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 09:09 PM
2

So you would accept him working almost every weekend till old age?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:22 PM
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Jobs does not come and go in Japan, not as easily as in the Us. Also, he said he would never change his schedule or workplace because he was fine with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:21 PM
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If they marry without cohabitation it is difficult to tell how the man will split bills, housework and childrearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:20 PM
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In urban cities successful men marry slightly younger women with a decent job and at least a bachelor's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:24 PM
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So true. Many plain Janes or ""losers""during high school are late bloomers who are better in their 25-35s compared to their high school-early 20s because they improved their diet and lost weght, skincare (bye bye acne), style/hair/fashion, or, in biggest cases, did plastic surgery. I am one of them. I lost weight, got ride of acne, started dressing more feminime and fashionable, dyed my hair blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:19 PM
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I guess like you pointed out this kind of partner can be ok for breadwinner woman or woman with irregular schedule. How you 2 can you plan trips or events outside with that little free time? Does he have weekends off?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:14 PM
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Even if he kept working horrible schedule forever with low-medium pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:08 PM
1

Italian people mostly eat chicken breast with tomato sauce, italian omelette (frittata), caprese salad, tuna salad... there are many other national dishes which do not have wheat lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:06 PM
1

Also ramen is made of wheat lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 05:05 PM
1

He never had a monthly schedule. His schedule changed weekly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 04:54 PM
1

If it works for you it is ok!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 04:53 PM
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Yeah... he said that even if we had kids (he wanted 3 lol in Tokyo with teaching salary...) he would have kept the same work schedule as now!! So I would be stick alone with childcare even in the weekends! So nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 04:52 PM
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Instant ramen is cheap, you do not need a kitchen to prepare it, and it is also fasts. But still also good traditional ramen is a tasty national dish which can not be eaten everyday. If you eat it everyday, you gain weight. So it is not just pizza lol. Also Americans should not cheeseburgers, another national dish, every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 04:04 PM
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The situation went like this for 3 years. I asked him to ask for a better schedule or change job (like same / similar position in another workplace). He said no because he loves his workplace, his schedule and his boss, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 03:46 PM
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Here in Milan, Italy, even small offices or schools have 9-5 (teaching is more like 8-2). Corporate jobs here requires more overwork so they are not 9-5 If musician lifestyle is OK for you, then it is good. You have compatibility. I would not have compatibility with that lifestyle. I am not boring, but I do want stability for a future couple/family and good quality time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 03:44 PM
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Yeah but then how will you live? Unless you are rich/UMC and are willing to support him, it would not work To me, I repeat, the ideal would be a middle class man with a decent, regular work schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:56 PM
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That's what happened with my ex BF as well He almost always had free time in the late evening in the week (when I had to study and sleep early to go to uni lessons who starts at 8.30). No free time during weekend. No energy for doing anything except a walk and Netflix. Planning a trip was basically impossible. Also, he was stingy with money despite earning (I was a full time student working occasionaly). So he was like: we do not need to do something special and spend money, let's just stay at h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:31 PM
1

That's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:27 PM
2

Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:27 PM
2

Interesting output. Yeah, I want to find someone in the middle who has a regular schedule which allows good quality time in the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:27 PM
1

thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:26 PM
1

thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:35 PM
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I liked his same hobbies, his interest in teaching, his looks. But I did not like how he worked long, inconvenient hours for no decent money without caring to spend quality time together and I did not like that he was cheap (no offers/gifts even during special occasions like bday). If it wasn't for these 2 problems, I would have married him. From the bullshit you say, it looks like a woman should sacrifice EVERYTHING for a man, lol. Conflicting schedule / opposite work schedule (which do not bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:33 PM
1

yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:20 PM
1

thanks for your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:20 PM
1

I hope he earns at least good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:20 PM
1

Not really if I never see him and he never offers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:19 PM
1

you are right. but sometimes I wonder if I made the right choice. I gave him almost 3 years to make his schedule better, but he did not, he did not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:19 PM
1

indeed. That would be the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:18 PM
1

great. my mom is a INFJ!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 01:18 PM
1

Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:45 PM
2

Meeting once a week on a Tuesday night for just 2 hours with Netflix and chill all the time? Wow, what a good quality time. I want to be able to go to do actual stuff in the weekend with my partner as I do with my friends and families when I am single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:01 PM
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There is nothing bad in wanting a partner with a similar/same work shift. It's difficult to have quality time together if you never see each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:00 PM
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Agree. I would never work nights. I would rather skip lunches and save money (I am honest)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:59 AM
1

I would prefer a man who works a regular schedule like Monday-Friday 9-5. I would accept a man working very long, inconvenient schedule only if he was a high earner. Like I said, doctor or engineer or pilot But if it's a office workers/accountant not earning much, he should have at least a decent schedule with free time on the weekends. I am sorry for that. Indeed, it is really difficult to have quality time with partner with opposite work schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:59 AM
1

Some men are workaholics even for free/very low paid jobs. There are many interns who work long hours for free or almost nothing. I don't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:58 AM
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I would prefer a man who works a regular schedule like Monday-Friday 9-5. I would accept a man working very long, inconvenient schedule only if he was a high earner. Like I said, doctor or engineer or pilot But if it's a office workers/accountant not earning much, he should have at least a decent schedule with free time on the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:58 AM
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I don't want a man who doesn't work I would want a man who earns decently/middle class with a decent work schedule like Monday Friday 9-5. I can accept an inconvenient schedule only if he is a very high earner. But yet, I would prefer the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:56 AM
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Indeed. An inconvenient, very long schedule can be accepted only with a very good income. If you work long hours yet earn very low salary, why bothering? Why working so much with no free time for partner or hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:55 AM
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I wrote low-medium earner but yeah XD I was mostly talking about unrewarded long and inconvenient work schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:54 AM
1

I think people with irregular schedule who do not earn much despite working a lot with inconvenient schedule should stay with people in their same situation. In this way they would have same schedule. ​ But most college educated women work regular schedule, like Monday Friday 9-5 or 9-6. For them dating such men, unless they were rich/UMC, is really unconvenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:24 AM
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The important is that they can have a bit of quality time with their partner once in a while. With opposite work schedules, it's really difficult to have quality time with partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:15 AM
1

Thanks for your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:09 AM
1

We do not have only pizza lol Also ramen, Japan's national dish, is not suitable everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:08 AM
0

I also want someone with a job, but I would prefer someone working Monday Friday with free weekends. Like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:06 AM
1

I was in this situation and I broke up because of this. I initiated the break up because after almost 3 years he never changed the schedule and told me had no intention because he loved his schedule and workplace lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:05 AM
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My ex bf was a cram school teacher in Tokyo and there schedules are horrible. Public/private normal school teachers have a much better schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:05 AM
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My ex never planned to end this crazy schedule because he loved the workplace and the kids (he was a cram school teacher in Tokyo). He said that even if we had children he would have kept this schedule even with no raise because he loves the workplace LOL Yeah the situation made me mad. He was also quite stingy with money, but the work schedule was the worst thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:59 AM
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I am also introverted (INTJ) but if I have a partner I want to have good quality time with him. I can read a book or play videogames during weekdays evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:51 AM
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It's cheap only for big families. If you are a single, it is more convenient to buy a takeout pizza. Also it tastes much better and it is already ready Like, pizza shops in Italy have already pizza ready to eat Frozen pizza needs at least 30 minutes to be prepared. If someone is hungry after work or wants a fast and cheap lunch break, pizza is the way to go. But if you eat it all the time, of course you are going to become fat. Thin Italians eat pizza only once a week, some girls even just once …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:41 AM
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Here in Italy not really. Pizza costs a lot if you do it by yourself, you also need a stone oven to do it, and it takes a lot of time. Frozen pizza costs almost the same as restaurant takeout pizza. Also, it takes much less time. So working poor prefer taking a takeout pizza than preparing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:34 AM
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Oh, so that is why. Like poor people in Eastern Europe really do not eat almost anything. In Western, Southern Europe and I guess US poor people can eat for very cheap pizza or other fast food like hamburgers, so they end up being fat/overweight and can end up having vitamin deficiency or poor muscle tone. Here thin people are usually the middle or upper middle class who can afford fish, nuts, dietician, gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:29 AM
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American are fatter (I am Italian and live in Italy and I see the exact trend) because cheap fast food is greasy full of fat Same in Italy. Pizza is cheap as fuck, it's good, but if you eat ONLY pizza all the time, like working poor do, of course you get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:23 AM
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You do not have to be super rich. At least middle class though. It is working class-poor single women who can not afford time and money required to bounce back.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:00 AM
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A Stacy can remain like she was before kids only if she or her partner has enough money and time for dietician, gym, personal trainer and cosmetic surgery (saggy boobs, diastasi recti and stretch marks can not be solved by diet loss or exercise) Better not to have kids if you do not have enough time and money to keep your looks good enough in case of divorce or becoming a widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 09:43 AM
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If you dodged them probably you have good elastic skin so even if you did not put oil you would not get them. But still better trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 09:34 AM
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Bullshit. Men skincare and shaving is much more less time consuming and cheaper. Even clothing is much cheaper. They do not need to have a good body, average body for men is ok. While we women are required to have a perfect thin toned body with big boobs and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 06:49 AM
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I know but we live in 2019 so we can not talk about how things worked in the 60s or the 90s because things do not work anymore like that time Also, if you marry young and then divorce at 30-35 after having kids as a woman, your dating pool will be horrible even if you are not that old.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:47 AM
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you said that people who marry early marry best. that is true if you consider early under 30. but people who marry before 23.. no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:30 AM
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Marriages before 23 have the highest divorce rates.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/19 05:48 AM
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The risks increase at 35, not at 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:37 AM
1

Also marriages before 23 years old have the highest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:37 AM
1

We should have babies as soon after high school? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:36 AM
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People who get married before 23 have the highest divorce rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 05:35 AM
1

I know. But how many YouTubers do not earn a penny from it? There are very few super successful ones, and then the others. If menial jobs ends, what would happen to the multitude of people who earn a living through that menial job and do a Youtube channel just for fun with no earnings?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:03 PM
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Boomers are still working either for greed /the succesful ones/, either because they lost their job and now they are working a lower level/lower income job just to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:50 PM
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so basically everyone will become a sort of late stage capitalism jester? who is gonna pay for that? there are already enough Youtubers and musicians. and not anyone is creative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:49 PM
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What will do this 800 billions people with no job? Will the State re-educate them? Or will they need to drown in debt to get education for such "future" jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:34 PM
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Make examples of this new jobs :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:34 PM
1

Chicken breast contains naturally estrogens. As well as soybeans. I was not referring to growth hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:34 PM
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Robot automation will 'take 800 million jobs by 2030' https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42170100 Yet you encourage people to reproduce with no limits, lol. Enjoy collapse. Earth does not have infinite resources, as well as jobs. Have you ever read about Rat Utopia experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:21 PM
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I am not talking about experiences, I am talking about education A 20 years old girl with no actual hobbies and interests and just high school diploma? What would you talk about? Nothing to share aside sex? To me that would be boring. I always dated men with similar hobbies and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:17 PM
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Chicken has hormones. Tuna has mercury. Best fish would be salmon, but that is expensive. Nuts is also a good source of protein, but they are expensive. Same for nutritious food such as avocado or goji berries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:16 PM
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Who will marry a 20 something? With enough money to buy a house and support babies and future education of their wife? Surely not one of her own age. Even 29 years old do not consider 20 as marriage material. Usual age gap is 3-5 years older husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:36 PM
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To me cancer is overpopulation which brings to unemployement, lower salaries, higher price of living, pollution, looser social ties (as there are many people, people are considered explandable/replacable). Not people itself. I prefer quality over quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:34 PM
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Not everyone is creative. It should not be encoraged to have tons of children. I think 2 children per couple are more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:33 PM
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Also, there is a difference between high end and low end skincare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:33 PM
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Eating good protein like fish and nuts is expensive nowadays. In order to achieve a hot thin thicc body you need protein and good fat from nuts. Poor women are less educated -> they take bad habits like smoking, alcohol, bad diet (fast food is much cheaper and less time consuming), no sun screen.. -> they age worse Also stressing constantly after bills does not make you beautiful. Cortisol, the stress hormone, makes skin thinner, make gain weight and lose hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:32 PM
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Stretch marks. I had them on my thighs due to overweight caused by medication (cortisone for asthma).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:30 PM
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Not if we talk about blue collar jobs/minimum wage jobs. Automation will make even truckers outdates, as well as fabric workers. Also, less people = better pay, more wealth redistribution Too many people growing up too fast is not good. Like a cancer which grows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 07:40 PM
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Indeed. Being rich or at least middle class brings to less stress, more money to slow down the wall with skincare/plastic surgery/gym and healthy diet. That is why natural young beauties from working class lose their looks very fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:52 PM
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We are already 7 billions. We do not need much fertility. Automation is also bringing less jobs, so a smaller human population would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:49 PM
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I think many men opt out just because of socioeconomics factors. Before a man with just a HS diploma could have easily supported a wife and 2-4 children with a middle income lifestyle, and he could keep some hobbies like cars, sports or music. Now even people with masters are struggling to support themselves. Home ownership is always more difficult. A man who can barely make it will not want to risk poverty for marriage and kids and forgo all hobbies entirely because of lack of money. Meny women…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:44 PM
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Here in EU software engineers are required to have a masters. Source: my dad who is an engineer, one of my ex and 2 friends who are engineers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:39 PM
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I agree but if someone has a terrible nose by birth or because of a car crash, you can not tell them "just gymmaxx" because the nose will be always noticeable.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/19 06:25 PM
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I was a former femcel. I ascended to Becky levels thanks to dieting, gym, skincare and cosmetic procedures (laser, not plastic). Natural beauties can not stop and do anything against aging. Once you reach 25-30 you need to put much more effort in keeping your apperance. If they really do not do anything to keep up apperance, they will lose their "natural beauty" soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 06:24 PM
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There are few software engineers. Most men are blue collars or low earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:34 PM
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Stretch marks appear with puberty and pregnancy. It is not an aging thing like wrinkles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:32 PM
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That is not true. Do you have any idea of how keeping up appearance works? It is not just basic makeup. After 30 in order to postpone the wall, you need more skincare. That means toner, washing gel, eye cream, anti wrinkle face cream, neck cream, masks, fillers. That is just to keep up. Then you need to add more gym and healthier diet as metabolism slows down. Then toning cream for breast and butt. Anticellulitis cream. Waxing. Then you need to add haircare. Most women get white hair starting du…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 05:31 PM
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And also money? Who has an established career and owns a house before 30 in 2019? Where jobless people and free interns are the norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 04:23 PM
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this. women who get married early have also a higher risk of becoming single moms and being broke (because if you skipped higher education for babies in 2019, it is impossible to escape poverty unless you marry really rich. And alimony, at least in Europe, is almost completely gone)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 04:18 PM
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THIS I think redpillers guys who consider unwanted any 25+ unwed women as a spinter who hit the wall are delusional. I could understand that logic only between highly religious individuals who live in a third world country where women are just incubators. Surely women get less attractive with age, but the wall 1) depends on the individual genetics, skincare, lifestyle (enough sleep, no smoke, no/few alcohol, pregnancy/hormonal changes) , healthy diet, gym, eventual plastic surgery or cosmetic tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:47 PM
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the face can be changed. If someone has a crooked nose or very bad teeth or very thin lips, plastic surgery can make the difference.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/19 09:40 AM
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so?? they are giving their husband a kid. Isn't that enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:16 AM
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maybe because women need to take time off work to make children??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:14 AM
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I am a woman. I can understand widows or divorcees. But making a kid without being married, to trap a man, is too risky for both the woman and especially the kid! I would never accept to do sex with no birth control protection if I was not married. I think such women are too naive. If a man does not marry you now that you are childless, he will not marry you for the baby. Maybe many decades ago it was like this, but in 2019 no.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/19 08:33 AM
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Thanks for the tip. My grandmom had breast cancer so indeed I am concerned of that. Also because of hormones in food young women with breast cancer are sadly increasing. Good to know.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/19 06:09 AM
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I can only " justify" (like consider it ok/not mutilating breast tattoo if it is to cover radiotherapy or breast cancer scars.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/06/19 07:40 PM
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Why did you break up then? Were you scared to have to support her financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 02:15 PM
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It is not 2 hours. Keeping your hair in a good shape does take much more time and effort, and you need to do it all the time. You know, we also start to get greys between 25 and 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 04:31 PM
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Average gal has the same dillema.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 08:35 AM
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Lol so basically we women are expected, in order to be considered datable (cute enough), spend time and money on hair products, hair removal, makeup, good clothing, healthy food, gym membership, supplements, skincare, we should also pay all? After all the time and money we spent to be asked out? The guy who want everything paid should be dating a sugar mama or a girl who do not bother making herself prettier for a date. But I bet you feel entitled to a 8/10 who also pays everything LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:23 AM
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In term of looks I would never date a man I do not find at least decently attractive (6/10 no shorter than me, I am 5'6', not overweight) The difference between STR and LTR is job prospects, debts/no debts, generosity, common hobbies and goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 03:24 PM
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Also. In that case it's because they wanna enjoy themselves or build a gigantic career. it's their choice. we should not force breeding lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 09:27 PM
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and that's why they are richer. having multiple kids you can not affors is stupid. better have 1 or 2 you can give everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 09:22 PM
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Usually UMC men like women who have at least a bachelor degree, does not depent (entirely) on parents for money, have a job and hobbies. Of course you also need to be attractive, in good shape, well dressed... but if you just have your looks, nowadays you can get only ONS from not much older UMC men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 09:13 PM
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I am an INTJ. I hate small talk. I like to talk about my hobbies. So I make friends and dates through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:36 PM
1

Women time is indeed more valuable because if we want children, we do not have infinite time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 06:24 PM
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Unconditional love does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:24 PM
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My mom dated potential - it turned really fine But indeed my dad was a slightly older guy of a working class family who thanks to scholarship and intelligence was majoring in engineering. Not some dude doing nothing and working minimal job, dreaming of becoming famous at 30+ years old. There is real potential (dating a student who soon will graduate, dating someone who just started a career) and fake potential (delusional dudes who want to get rich fast with no education, skills...)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:23 PM
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Women are more likely to cheat or leave their partner if their partner is fired/has significant income loss -> money problems Men are more likely to cheat or leave their partner if their partner gets seriously sick or after childbirth -> sexual attraction/luck of fun carefree time problems Both sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:21 PM
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Not genetic alone. Like, diseases which make people gain weight more easily are indeed genetic. Of course they are not alone, like, you need the genetic condition + bad lifestyle. But a person with a good metabolism, good thyroid function can eat more than such person and still not be fat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:41 PM
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But muscle decreases by 35-40. You surely can improve your metabolism, but it will never be as fast as it was in puberty or early 20s
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/19 05:39 PM
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I agree with that. Woman who play too easy usually can not get commitment. But also women who play too hard to get, except if they are 8+.A middle way should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:30 PM
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Aside for being more masculine due to aging, resources, stability, a clear career path.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:29 PM
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I assure these guys are lower level, like 6/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:26 PM
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yeah but better to have them when you are 30-35 and have solved your student debts and have some savings for their future education instead of having them at 20 with no degree/diploma and no place to go just because "it's better to have them young as nature wants"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:25 PM
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Best to have them young if you have a good partner and have at least a back up plan (like minimum skills for a decent job). If you have them young just for the sake of having kids young with the wrong person it can be really difficult to find another partner with kids, especially if you are a single woman with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:24 PM
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I honestly think the "wall" (like, latest time when you start aging a lot) depends on each person, lifestyle, plastic surgery/skincare/gym. So there is not an equal wall for everyone. But for marriage/kids the latest best time probably is 35 for women, 40 for men to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:20 PM
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Maybe she is Stacy-lite. Like 7/8. I assure you in urban cities there are many picky guys who consider only 8.5/9+ as there are tons of other cute/beautiful single women. Most women who were previously overweight do need such things. Even after pregnancy, many women end up with diastasi recti which can be corrected only by a tummy tuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:04 PM
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This works if you are a 5-6 from the start. If you are very overweight with strange body shape and can not lose weight you need liposuction. If you are very overweight and lose a lot of weight (like 50lbs+) you need skin removal which is a plastic surgery. If you have a very bad nose or cheeks or jaws, fillers are not enough, you need plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:24 PM
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What? Are you crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 03:23 PM
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so I should be OK with a guy much older than me yet much poorer/with no stable job, overweight, bald, with almost no education? XD No way. I don't ask for a male model rich genius. But someone equal to me. Someone with at least a bachelor, in decent shape, not hot but neither hideous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 12:04 PM
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Here in Milan most people need to speak at least B2 English in order to get hired, even shop assistants. that does not apply to older shop assistants (you know, baby boomers privilege. they just have a diploma and no language skills yet they earn much more than us millennials or generation z) recently for under 30 shop assistants they even require ielts 7 score lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 12:01 PM
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so only Stacy should get a decent BF? Weren't you guy obsessed with beauty standards? Only 10/10 women should get decent love?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 11:53 AM
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so Becky does not deserve a decent boyfriend? Only Stacy? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 11:52 AM
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I am a former femcel because I looksmaxed (I am nerd and introvert. I lost a lot of weight, toned up, cured acne, started skincare, learnt makeup, learnt how to dress lady-like, dyed my hair lighter..) All this looksmaxing was a big effort in time and money. I refuse to date a guy who can not stay in a decent shape (no six packs) and does not have basic sense of style and hygene.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 11:49 AM
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If you want to work with good shift hours you need to have at least 2 fluent languages, and that requires a bachelor + language certificates. Shitty shops require 3+ years experience. Usually such jobs are taken by older people who got jobless or high school dropouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 11:47 AM
1

well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:09 AM
1

How can he outearn you if you have a graduate degree in STEM? What is his career?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:08 AM
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Lol you could apply the same to men, genius. Men used to hunt mammoth and live in caves. does it mean that since now we have technology we should resume our caveman practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:05 AM
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Men are more likely to enjoy kids because they do not deal with pregnancy, post partum problems, breastfeeding, and most childcare still falls on the woman lol. They get the Kodak moments. Women get the very bad and painful moments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:58 AM
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Yeah but you pay maximum 2000/3000 euro per year. Usually most people pay 500-1500 euro per year in good public uni in Europe. It is not such a big investment compared to US
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:41 PM
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He had to, otherwise they would not have hired him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:39 PM
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Exactly. And here in Europe there are a lot of good public universities. They are almost free no more than 2000-3000 euro per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:09 PM
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I dated a photographer for a while. He had to get a photography diploma, it is a 3 year creative school after high school!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:08 PM
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There are many women who do the same and yet can not get back to their pre pregnancy body. Also because one thing is to lose weight, one is to be toned up, stretch mark less before pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:07 PM
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Yeah. Most women get a graduate degree in mid/late 20s... so some men sadly say they are already too old to start dating seriously then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:44 PM
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If you work as a model or influencer sure, you do not need college But at least here in Western Europe as well as in Japan if you want to work in fashion as a seller, receptionist, showroom and so on they require at least a bachelor degree Source: I live in Milan and did an internship for a fashion firm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:35 PM
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Yet childcare is much more expensive, most normal jobs can not cover it. How can she keep working if childcare is always more expensive? Sometimes it is more convenient to work part time or Sahm because of that. But many man do not want their woman to do so because they find "it is not right that I go work and she stays at home with our kid" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:32 PM
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Body shape (where fat goes), metabolism rate and so on are influenced a lot by genetics and hormones.
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/19 01:31 PM
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Woman bear children. If she wants children, she can not be a breadwinner for some time. Who will support her and her newborn? The dead end job high school guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:22 PM
1

Exactly!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:21 PM
0

Here in Europe university is quite cheap. We do not get in debt for it, unless it is a very expensive private uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:21 PM
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Exactly, that is what I mean. Someone who quit learning anything (be it uni or trade school) after high school diploma sounds lazy to me Also Zuckenber and Jobs went to uni, they dropped out. It is not like they went straight from high school to their inventions. And they are the exception, not the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:20 PM
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Same in Italy / Western Europe and Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:19 PM
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Breasfeed makes boobs saggier, and not everyone can do it. I think women with fast metabolism have no problem after pregnancy. But most women have a normal or even slow metabolism and such women have more problems. How many hours a day do you work? If a woman works 4-6h per day, she will have the strenght to train after or before work But if a woman works 8-10h she will not be able to train properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:06 PM
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That's ok, it's interesting to learn how it works elsewhere. From what I read, it looks like in US (really American self made man trope) any man with talent can become an entrepreneur and rich without needing a degree. In Europe and Japan (I guess because there society is more hierarchic and has bigger agism) even entrepreneurs are needed to have some kind of title, otherwise they are not taken seriously by investors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:36 PM
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Lol, startups in Italy do not work because of crazy burocracy, not because of unskilled workers. In fact most intelligent Italian startuppers do move to UK or US.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:29 PM
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I am talking from an Italian/Western Europe dating scene. I also lived in Japan and so my perception also comes from Japanese situation. I don't know how it works in US, but in Western Europe and Japan basic jobs now all require a bachelor's.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:28 PM
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But how many other people are like him? He's an exception, not the rule for people with no tertiary education. Here in Italy 90% with no college or no trade school can work only as janitors or at fast food counters. Nowadays even for shop assistant jobs they require a bachelor lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:16 PM
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Indeed. Most men with no education can not get a decent job so they envy their more successful girlfriends lol. Also it becomes difficult to plan for children with such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:12 PM
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Yeah and they usually live in poverty. I do not envy them. Unless we are talking about the few startuppers/celebrities with no education, getting no education in 2019 is a good recipe for poverty. And for education I mean also trade school, not necessarily college.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 12:10 PM
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I think it is both metabolism slowing down (also from 35-40 years old human start to lose muscle, and then with menopause women tend to gain weight on the abdomen like men) + changing lifestyle due to kids. Less time and less money for gym, healthy diet (veggies, fish and nuts do cost much more than cheap greasy fast food, and they also require time to be prepared), less sleep and more stress due to kids... less sleep increases cortisone which increases fat storage. Also after childbirth many wo…
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/19 12:01 PM
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But metabolism also do slow down. And from 35-40 you start losing muscle -> less toned up, more prone to fat. Of course if you sum up less activity + more fast food + less sleep and more stress due to kids + metabolism slowing down + less time and money for gym and healthy protein (unless you and your husband are well off, having children is expensive nowadays), it's natural to get bitter sadly
/r/RedPillWomen29/05/19 11:57 AM
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For every Zuckenberg there are losers who dreamt of becoming the next one and failed. I am sure there are people like that, but they are the exception more than the rule. Here in Italy (as well as in Japan where I lived) most people who stopped studying after high school are stuck in dead end menial jobs at minimum wage forever. The startups here in Italy requires you to have at least a bachelor (in IT and so on)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:47 AM
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Yes exactly. A man (but also a woman) who did not do anything aside part time unskilled jobs after high school is really bad marriage material to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:41 AM
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It's not the piece of paper itself, it's 1) a requirement for better jobs 2) a proof that he is hardworking and finish what he started. A man (but also woman) with no college or no trade school after high school shows me to be lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:40 AM
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Yes but usually such men have at least trade school after college. Nowadays a man with just a high school diploma (and also a woman) can do only menial minimum wage jobs forever. Even bachelor's sometimes is not considered enough sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:39 AM
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I personally have a bachelor's and soon I will started graduate school. I'd be willing to date for LTR men with a bachelor's or with trade / professional school after high school, but I would never date for a LTR someone who barely finished high school, is barely educate, has no cultural interests/does not know anything and will be probably stuck forever in a dead end job. I agree with you though. Of course education is not the only dealbreaker, but to me it is important. so I would be willing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:32 AM
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Also here in Milan, Millennials men (even the older ones who are 35-37) can not provide SAHMs and their children unless they are VERY well-off. and that is a very tiny percentage of people here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:22 AM
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It is too expensive nowadays to have children, we are already too much. Overpopulation is also one of the cause of current unemployement and low wages. I think it is good if the current population shrinks. But the problem is that people in Third World country keep reproducing like rabbits I think there should be EVERYWHERE a limit: max 3 children per family. no more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:21 AM
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The generation of your parents, which I assume to be BabyBoomers, had secure jobs with benefits and great wages, little to no student debt, of course they had children young! ​ But in today's economy, unless you are rich, it is much better to have 1-2 children when you are 30-40 and provide them a good education/stable economic environment instead of having them at 20 with no job prospects
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:19 AM
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Because of economic crisis, stay at home wife route is always more difficult for lower-middle class men. They can not support wife + children with such high living cost and stagnant wages, that is why you have problems meeting such men (especially if you live in a big urban city)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:18 AM
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Most women can not get back in pre pregnancy body because going to gym and following a healthy diet requires money and time, which you usually do not have anymore after children (especially when they are babies and toddlers)... so usually it is the Upper middle class women who manage to get back in good shape : because they have time and money for nannies, stop working and focusing on getting back in good shape. ​ Also many post pregnancy problems like saggy boobs or diastasi recti (balooned abd…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:15 AM
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I think children change much more things than marriage. I think anyone, even if not childfree and wanting children, should enjoy a few years of marriage/LTR before having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:13 AM
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I think for very poor women with equally poor men as partners it is more convenient to have children out of wedlock so they can qualify for help from the state (like food stamps, free housing etc), which they would not be able to get if they were married with an equally poor man. Still I would NEVER do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:13 AM
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I think there is a middle way between very young girl who barely finished high school VS career woman with 2 masters, PHDs and so on. The between is probably a girl with a bachelor, maximum masters, with the intention of working until kids and then resuming part time work once the kids are older You are right. But most 20 years old women do not marry 40 years old men, they are usually their lovers. I've seen more 30 years old with 50 than 20 with 40 as married couples (at least here in Italy) I …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/19 11:05 AM
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And then what if he will resent her for not working or dump her for a younger woman once she is older? Nowadays even minimum wage jobs require a college degree.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/19 08:52 AM
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Yes but Baby Boomers had always a good job with benefits after college and no debt/very small debt. Also life expectancy and pension age was much lower compared to now. Nowadays Millennials need a master degree for a decent tertiary job, and most people get a master in their mid/late 20s and have a much higher debt. Also price of living has skyrocketed (especially housing) as well as childcare and education... yet salary did not grow up. so marrying and having kids is much more expensive than in…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/19 06:49 AM
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I guess best age for marriage in 2019 in modern countries, especially big cities is between 25 and 35, though probably 25-28 is the best among this line, and especially for women. ​ I don't believe redpillers who say the best age to get married is 18 straight of high school with no career prospects and just hot looks because 1) there are 7 billions people, a lot of hot young girls, you are not special only because of looks 2) your looks will probably worsen (unless you marry someone rich and wil…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/19 08:29 PM
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I am a woman and that's why I think marrying and having kids TOO early (like before 25), unless the partner is quite well off, responsible and possibly older, is always a bad idea. It brings to divorce and single motherhood -> even less chances of marrying again. ​ A woman with post pregnancy body + no time for dating + no money + kids has less chances than a 30 single years old with no children, decent apperance (not overweight) and a decent job (though some men keep telling they are equal in t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/19 07:55 PM
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Here in Italy blonde blue eyed women are quite rare so they are usually sought and treated better even if they are fatter/with uglier facial features Source: I am a 6.5/10 brown hair brown eyed girl, I got better ONS and dating prospects (but still not so good) after dying my hair blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:13 PM
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A woman literally wastes her depreciating beauty, time and fertility for a man. Also money and time to be cute/hot/keep in shape if she is 6+. So why should he not offer during the courtship phase a pizza or a cinema ticket?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:10 PM
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No, actually the more men were pickier, the uglier they were. Like, 6-7/10 men are usually less criticizing, it's mostly the bitter 5/10 guys. But yet such 6-7/10 men know their worth so they do not choose a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:55 PM
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the white blonde gets much better treatment and has much better prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:53 PM
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So these women are like 50+ now right? At that time there was no social media, less plastic surgery, so men's beauty standards were much lower. Also, many former hot / decent wives aged pretty badly due to kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:50 PM
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In Asia I saw only overweight women to have cellulitis, while in Europe almost all women have it more or less, even skinny ones. Like maybe 70-80% of women after puberty. Yes, sadly due to filters, photoshop and a lot of cosmetic and plastic surgery for minor defects, the standards are always higher even for decent men (like, a 6/10 man with a decent job nowadays is very rare, so in place with high women to men ratio he knows he can be picky, so he will refuse the 6-7/10 women for cellulitis or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:46 PM
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I am afraid It is because of where I lived, but both in Milan and Tokyo I saw many women get criticized by men for having cellulitis despite not being fat. Like "gross". I used to be bullied at middle school when I was fat and not cute, so I do not want to go through that again. I will do anything in my power not to lose (entirely) my looks because of aging. I guess cellulitis shaming is also due to many celebrities having treaments and photoshop which deletes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:38 PM
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I used to have cellulitis when my BMI was 24. I reached now BMI 21/20 (wanna get to 19/18 then I will stop). Using caffeine/seaweed creams against cellulitis do help women. But they cost money. The ones who work usually cost around 20-50 euro.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:34 PM
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I have a 21 BMI, wanna get to 19 BMI. Used to have a 24 one, so though not really overweight, I looked awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:33 PM
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In Milan you can find such ladies only among the bad areas of my city or among very elderly couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:32 PM
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I look similarly to Emma Watson and Lily James when blonde ( I have been told that). I am cute but not hot, slender, toned, well dressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:31 PM
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The natural beauties do use makeup. Just not heavy one. Heavy makeup is not good, because it looks tacky, cheap and hides true face/skin. Natural makeup enhances natural beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:31 PM
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They are happier if they have money, a decent career (no slaving) and good support network (lover, family, friends, good colleagues).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:30 PM
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I know, in fact toning up requires gym (time and money) + creams + supplements. Been through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:29 PM
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A pizza or a museum ticket should not big a big deal for a man looking for a LTR. If he can not pay a pizza or a museum ticket, how will he support his future wife if she gets pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:28 PM
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I have already looksmaxed in my past. I lost 20 lbs, went from an European size 42 to an European size 36-38, toned up, removed cellulitis with healthier diet and creams, made my hair longer and lighter, started makeup and dressing more feminime. My face is quite good, I have been to a plastic surgeon and he told me I am quite pretty and that for now I do not need anything, maybe I could just benefit from lip fillers as my lips are not thin but neither plump as now they are trending..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:27 PM
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Yeah from who? From psycopaths or people with paraphylias XD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:26 PM
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Birthday, Christmas, anniversary gifts? Nothing big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 01:25 PM
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For teaching you need a master degree. If they married very young, how did they attend uni?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/19 06:10 AM
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I am a woman in my mid20s, not a man. My problem is that most men interested in a LTR always split 50/50. The guys who offer just end up wanting a ONS. Can not a man interested in a LTR offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 05:36 AM
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No because they kept asking me out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 05:35 AM
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it shows like mental retard or something like that. why someone should take their pictures at their worst? I guess this man considers even cleaning as a fake thing which hides the "true looks of a woman" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:28 PM
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Because of economic crisis men expect us to accept them as broke or crippled by debt yet we women work hard at uni and on our careers lol. And they also expect us to be fucking hot like 8+ to have a good, non abusive relationship. If I am a hard working, studying woman, I expect my man doing the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:24 PM
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If a girl uses a terrible picture which shows all her defects, makeup less, with ruffy unkept and dirty hair, she will not receive any match at all. wtf. even at work you need to look at your best or at least nicely clean!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:23 PM
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If a girl uses a terrible picture which shows all her defects, makeup less, with ruffy unkept and dirty hair, she will not receive any match at all. wtf. even at work you need to look at your best or at least nicely clean!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:23 PM
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If someone is already on a healthy BMI range the diet suggestment is not going working
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:22 PM
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For the first dates (like 3-4 dates) the men should pay, it's chivalry and showing appreciation. After that taking turn would be OK to me. Also I expect gifts on special occasions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:20 PM
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Everyone should take best pictures as possible (not fake ones, but best pics mean good location, pic taken by a friend or a semi-professional/amateur with good clothing, grooming and makeup) as we compete with 10/10 Instagram models.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:19 PM
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then I would rather remain single with ONS, friends and family and a career than settling with a 4/10
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:10 PM
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sadly that is true I guess. We are wanted but only for either ONS or LTR with much worse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:14 PM
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Because most countries do not want someone who can not speak their native language. It is not as easy as to move inside US. If you can't master the local language, you can work only menial job forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:12 PM
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Thanks for the explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:14 PM
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In Milan not really. Usually only foreigner men, mostly middle eastern or african or latin american, catcall women, even fat ones.. In Naples catcalling is common even by Italians.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 04:13 PM
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Using my own body as a resistance does not work for me. I did so for years and never truly toned. Once I started using gym weights and tools, I finally started to get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:07 PM
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I have not such gym machines at home... I do not own a treadmill, a pool and machines to train inner leg and gluteus 😅 I wish I were rich so I could buy them and train at home 😁 my gym is also one of the cheapest in my city so.. Regarding waxing, shaving with razor is completely useless. It makes my hair much more hard and darker. Since I started waxing, I became much less hairy lol. So I would rather wax once a month my legs instead of shaving them twice a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:45 PM
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Cool. I usually spend the double. I have sensitive combination skin so I need two creams: one for cheeks/lines and one less oily for chin and forehead + one cream for eye coutour. Birth control is free in Italy only if you are basically homeless lol. So I need to pay it full. And hairdress and waxing once a month Then gym. I probably spend about 150 euro per month just to upkeep my current decent appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:19 PM
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When I had acne as a teen if my family could not afford expensive cream + special skincare + birth control I would have been acne scarred for sure. Most people do not have a good skin for nothing. If you have hormonal changes (common in women) or just eat not much green, your skin gets bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 01:22 PM
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I have no money problem, I am middle class. I was just stating my thought
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:39 PM
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That is bullshit honestly. Hyaluronic acid/vitamin c treaments + over 50 collagen + lifting do make a difference. My mom does regular skin care since she is 20 and she still looks 10 years younger now. As well as eating healthy, not having stress, drinking a lot, not smoking, drinking few, taking supplements
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:39 PM
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I will keep improving CV and looksmax/at least not get fat again at the same time 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:28 PM
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Yeah I guess so. Hope I can make it after master's.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:25 PM
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I used to be fat, lost 25 pounds. Before I had no relationship no ONS. After looksmaxing I started having ONS and LTRs but with either worse or better people, not pars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:23 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:22 PM
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I did not know that, sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:21 PM
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No. My looksmatch want women who always pay 50/50 (they only offer to 8+), men better than me use me just as a fuckbuddy and no thanks. Men who want LTR without 50/50 ard much uglier/older/with less education. Think about New York dating scene. The more good women, the more men become pickier
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:21 PM
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Due to unemployement I could not get a deceng job anywhere else my city after my bachelor's. The salaries I have been offered can not cover even a single room in a sharehouse. I am saving up to try to move after my master's I also studied abroad in Tokyo anyway. I had same problems but smaller (as I was foreigner I was perceived as more attractive, but not as attractive as the blonde blue eyed nordic woman) I am willing to move but I do not want to live in a small rural town with nothing to do (…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:13 PM
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Until you are young cheap skincare works fine But as you approach 30 you need stronger and better skincare not to get wrinkles. Here in Milan most UMC women start botox and hyaluronic acid fillers at 27-33. I am 24 and I am already saving for such treatments to prevent/slow aging. At this age you really start seeing the difference between the classes. If you do not have money to buy healthy protein you end up skinny fat, not toned. Which is not attractive. Same for the jogging thing. It makes yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:06 PM
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I have a bachelor degree in languages and communication. My field is translation, teaching Italian (done during an internship) and intercultural communication
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:52 AM
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I have applied for jobs related to my degree but they ended up hiring the 28 years old with a master (instead of me, at that time 23 with just a bachelor) :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:36 AM
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I have tried to look for jobs in such countries after my bachelor's, but they said I need a master. Which I am will geet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 11:16 AM
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Thanks for your confirmation. Being an average-cute average woman in a big city full of fashion models and money is indeed hard. I wanna keep living in a big town.. but less fashion oriented. If it were in Italy, I would say Firenze or Bologna.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:59 AM
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Japan (where I studied abroad), South Korea, Canada, US, UK, Malta, Spain/Portugal, Denmark, Switzerland. These are the counties I am considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:57 AM
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I mean I am a typical cute-average (not hot) with fair skin, brown eyes and light brown-reddish blonde hair. My body is probably better because I have natural bigger breast. I am surely no high end model, but neither a monster or average. Because I have some good things. Average means average = nothing particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:02 AM
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I have high cheekbones, good eyes, good nose and jaw. My problem is mostly lips which I will soon improve with hyaluronic acid fillers (for now I use plump lipgloss). I do not look for a model, but neither for someone full of defects. Some defects are fine. A small berry bell is ok. Height at least 170 (I am 168). So I am not that picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:00 AM
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Why me, 6/6.5 which worked hard to get a nice body (dieting, exercising, slimming cream) should date an obese/very overweight men with acne?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:47 AM
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I look similar to Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman / Emma Watson in the Bling Ring. When I dye my hair blonde I resemble Lily James. I am basically 168 cm tall, 55 kg, European size 36, natural cup D. I guess my biggest defects now after my looksmax is thin lips, not uptorn nose (it is just straight), not enough toned ass (which I am working on it)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:44 AM
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Perhaps you are right. But I encountered similar problems in Tokyo where I studied abroad. I am thinking to try to move once I get master degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:42 AM
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Many people tell me I look like Emma Watson or young Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman with red-brown hair. I indeed consider myself as average cute. Not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:41 AM
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Here in Milan a lot of men do so... only 4/10 men can not afford it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:40 AM
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The website is called "ilforumdeibrutti". It means ugly people forum lol. They rate people and give advice for looksmaxing. I have already looksmaxed (lost 3 sizes, toned up, skincare, haircare, better clothing) so I can not improve more 😂 unless surgery. But my jaw is ok, my nose is straight (not upturn for sure but neither witch like) and quite thin, I have very high cheekbones. I was just suggested lip fillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:05 AM
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I once had a one night stand with a male model. So I can recognize 9/10 men from a 6/10 men. To me a 6/10 man with a uni degree and decent job prospects would be ok for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:02 AM
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I used to have acne when I was a teenager, now thank goodness my skin is very cool (I have also done hair modelling). I am surely no 8,9,7 but neither 5. Most people rated me between a 6 and 7 in a famous Italian website which rates people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:53 AM
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No you did not get it. I would like a LTR with a looksmatch who studied at uni like me. They would be equal because I am also average cute with a a bachelor degree. Sadly for now except 2 exes I got only one night stand with my looks and status match. Or proposal of LTR with much uglier/older/poorer/less educated men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:51 AM
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Where is your SO from? Is he from a big city or smaller town?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:41 AM
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If I could move I would definitely do so. But sadly with the economic crisis in Italy I can not find jobs which would allow me to pay rent in another place. I am working to get my master degree to have better job prospects even abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:39 AM
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Yeah but it sucks. I read a lot of statistics on how men leave their women after childbirth or because of illness because they are not attractive anymore or how unsuccessful men turn successful dump their wife who helped them during their hard times for a younger and better looking model.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:38 AM
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Yes but if he works full time and I am a full time student/part time worker (that is what happened) why should I pay 50/50 if he earns more money than me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:36 AM
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Most men earn more than women so why 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:35 AM
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A model is a 6? Lol. I value a model as 8/9. To me a Gisele Bundchen or a Cindy Crawford is a 9, not a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:34 AM
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More quality men (like 6-7 looks with, like me, a university degree and job prospects, and not cheap) for a LTR. But all I got is quality men for one night stand + men much uglier/poorer/older
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:33 AM
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If it was easier I would have done already 😂 getting work permit outside Eu is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:31 AM
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I am 24. Yes, and here in Italy almost all Millennials (so even 35-37 years old) lack job security/decent wage and a lot of them either live with their parents, roommates or girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:08 AM
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Exactly. I was born and still living here. I also studied in Tokyo and same problem arose.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:06 AM
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I was an European size 42, now I am an European size 36. I toned up, got higher ass and firmer body, removed cellulitis with creams and healthy diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:05 AM
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Because I lost a lot of weight, started wearing more feminime clothing, makeup, dyed hair after such big change. I have already looksmaxed. Yet I do not see big improvements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:46 AM
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Sally starterwife lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:36 AM
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Here in Milan it works like that. Decent men are offering to cute average only if they look for a fuckbuddy or escort. They offer things only to 8+ if we talk of a long term relationship. A 6/7 here can have easily things offered for a LTR only by much older men (but yet most of them are poor because of divorce + Italian econom8c crisis) or much uglier men. So not decent men. The decent men will offer only to 8+ for a LTR. I guess it is a problem common in big cities where a lot of models/young …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:35 AM
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I have also had few guys offering but such guys were looking for a friend buddy or an escort lol. Not a girlfriend/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:31 AM
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Yet most of my friends who are like me cute normie (6-7) struggle finding men of our age or slightly older who are generous.. I guess maybe it is because we live in a city which hosts fashion week and have a lot of models living here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:30 AM
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I do not want people to know my identity. I can tell you I live in Milan, Italy, and there are many models here as it is a fashion city. So maybe that is why. I have other friends who are slightly worse or better than me and they have the same problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:29 AM
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I have few guys offering, but those kind of guys were looking only for fun. The ones who looked for a LTR almost always splitted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:19 AM
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Mm here in Italy there are healthy sorberts everywhere. If you eat ice cream or sorbet at home for the first dates it is not the same as doing so in a nice area of a city
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:14 AM
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I have done photo modelling and professional cosplays so I am sure I am average cute. Surely I am not a bombshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 07:13 AM
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That is why I will never marry unless my partner is very well off and generous. Because they will almost all end up leaving you for a younger version or cheating and treating you badly once you are not as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:12 PM
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http://www.oprah.com/relationships/why-men-leave-sick-wives-facing-illness-alone-couples-and-cancer/all Men are more likely to leave sick women because due to treatment sick women tend to gain weight, lose hair and have less sexual drive -> the man seeks another woman and abandons the sick wife. That is so horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:13 AM
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That is why I will never get married to a poor man. They are almost all going to cheat or abandon you because of illness, aging or childbirth... at least if he is not poor he will not a financial burden
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:09 AM
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Still it proves that it is not marriage which brings to cheating, it is mostly having kids. Indeee childless married couples report the highest level of happiness/satisfaction. DINK rules 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:17 AM
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Sorry, 82%, source https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2615991/Got-kids-Youre-likely-cheat-Having-children-main-reason-commit-adultery-82-cent-male-cheaters.html
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:35 AM
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More career single women, lesbian women on the rise. Eligible man means "an average looking man not too much older with an average status and an average income which can support wife and children" Sadly nowadays supporting a stay at home wife and kids decently (at least one vacation per year, good nutricious food, not only fast/cheap food, decent fast fashion clothing, decent education, decent home in a decent place) are really expensive and always less men can afford such things, especially in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 05:59 AM
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According to a study 83% of men do cheat after the birth of a baby So I am afraid usually most men, the most superficial / redpilled one (depending on how you think about it) dump their wife after she is not as sexually attractive as she used to. Pregnancy can cause heavy weight gain, diastasi recti (permanent protruding abdomen) stretch marks, saggy boobs, hair loss, vaginal tears even if you have a great body before getting pregnant (most of these problems are genetic and not relating to binge…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 05:56 AM
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Gotcha. I think it's respectful to teach children new things, but it is indeed very stressful. I don't like kids and I am childfree, I am considering teaching Italian to foreigners/abroad but I would never do it with kids, I would rather teach uni students or adults
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:25 PM
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It's not a trap, I had a bad experience with a teacher in Japan so, unless he works in a normal school with normal work schedule (like from 8/9 AM max 8 hours a day), I would prefer dating other intellectual fellows such as engineers (in my case they have better job schedules)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:20 PM
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yeah, I love Japanese subculture /anime videogames and so on) but their work culture is very very hard. and competition starts pretty early
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:18 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:16 PM
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that's good. but actually his classmates at uni are teachers as well and they all have better work schedule and/or salary. like they work in public school. he refused to try to work in public because he thinks public school is not good and because he likes his students too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:16 PM
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but actually his friends who majored with him in education have all better schedules and salaries because they chose to teach at other kind of schools (public/private). Like, they have 8 / 9 AM - 18 PM. I asked him to try to teach in one of these better schools but he refused saying "I love my school too much"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:15 PM
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Ah ok, thank you. So teachers in US and other EU countries do usually have normal schedules, right? In Italy schedules are still heavy but not as crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:11 PM
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He worked as a cram school teacher in Japan, so his schedule was 11 AM - 23 PM (yes, kids in Japan stay late at cram schools in Japan) and almost always worked on weekends and holidays (as cram school are lessons to get ahead of school for high school entrance exams). It was SO difficult to meet and date because when I studied abroad in Japan my schedule was 9-17 (university lessons) monday to friday.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:07 PM
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That's good. My ex worked 11 AM - 23 PM (in Japan), weekend almost always on (he taught in a cram school. I asked him to try teaching in a school with a more regular school as since I had university classes from M to F it would have been difficult to meet, but he never did in over 1 year of relationship)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:05 PM
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What kind of job schedule does he have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:01 PM
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My ex bf worked in Japan, he got just 220.000 yen per month in Tokyo for working 60+hours a week. In Tokyo that's almost peanuts
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:59 PM
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My ex boyfriend worked in a cram school in Japan (he is Japanese, I studied abroad there). Cram schools have very horrible job schedule + low pay. Add this to Japanese work culture and it was terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:59 PM
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In my case I would rather have a ONS and not ruin my relationship count (like, if they see you changing BF everytime and flauting it on social media they will consider you a "bad girl", while, if you have some lovers secretly while single, nobody can say anything bad and ruin your reputation). I admire you for your strenght.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:53 PM
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Because in my experience many teachers, especially if they teach to young students (so like under 14) have low pay and a lot of work hours unpaid. At least in Italy (where I am from) and Japan (where I lived). I don't know how in US it works
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:49 PM
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In my case he worked in a cram school with 10-12 years old, teaching basic English. High school professors definitely have more prestige and better salaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:43 PM
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Teaching to young kids have been mostly a female-dominated path. That's sadly why teaching salaries are still not that high. Many people still consider it a mostly female job (-> sidejob which merges with breadwinner husband's job
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:42 PM
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A school where people do additional lessons in order to get ahead, popular in Japan and South Korea (he was Japanese, I studied in Japan for a while where I met him)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:41 PM
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In my case he was working with 10-12 years old teaching basic English yet always burnout and nervous
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:41 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I also admired his knowledge (I also want to be a teacher but unlike him not in cram school and I would never accept unpaid overwork and crappy schedule unless I was one step to be homeless) and dedication, but to me working many hours (about 60 hours) with no time and energy left + no money and being bitter about it..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 05:31 PM
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