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handoforion/r/MensRights18/03/10 02:37 AM
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handoforion/r/seduction13/03/10 10:29 PM
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As women look for their ideal romantic male then men must conform to female expectations just to start a relationship with them. This is what men training to be pick up artists are- learning and training how to go from Joe Schlmo to Romeo. PUA is simply putting what the top %2 Romeos know and what %90 of female women expect into training and knowledge that the %80 Joe Schlmo's can access. There is simply no other alternative in this culture.
/r/seduction07/10/10 01:17 AM
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If you want to go to where it is easier to start a relationship with someone then I suggest doing Yoga. For God's sake though, turn into the 'positive committed boyfriend dude' not the 'Oh my God he slept with three of my friends' guy.
/r/seduction08/09/10 07:52 PM
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Thanks!
/r/seduction19/05/10 08:20 PM
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What sort of places do you go out to? Which celebrities do you keep your eye on?
/r/seduction19/05/10 07:16 PM
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Excellent.
/r/MensRights19/03/10 02:02 AM
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I never heard of it being $1.90 Man Released After 14 Years in Prison for Not Paying Alimony (2009) http://www.avvo.com/news/man-released-after-14-years-in-prison-for-not-paying-alimony-348.html
/r/MensRights18/03/10 09:17 PM
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You might still be able to leave the country through private marinas but finding a private international yacht to take you might be difficult. It would be iffy if the French Foreign Legion or the Israel Defense Force would take you but I know the French would give you citizenship in a few years and they don't extradite over marriage debt.
/r/MensRights18/03/10 06:28 PM
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I've noticed that.
/r/MensRights18/03/10 01:38 PM
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Debtors prison was abolished 200 years ago... now it's back to catch any male that a woman decides she wants money from 'for her child'. Marriage used to be protected legally, it was difficult to end it, and adulterers punished. Now divorce is protected legally. Divorce is the new marriage. It's all fucked up. Dude at this point you may be better off fleeing the country and spending some time working the organic farms in Costa Rica, two hours a day for room and board and bicycling from farm to f…
/r/MensRights18/03/10 01:06 PM
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Too many citizens are abused by extortion, fraud, and racketeering. We need pro-men movies and guy heroes who deal with this kind of shit. The same way Lifetime has movies for every conceivable white woman problem under the sun.
/r/MensRights18/03/10 01:01 PM
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That's quite interesting there's never been a statistical study of the total number of fathers jailed after the divorce. And its also quite interesting for such a masculine country we don't have lifetime-style movies showing what a hard time men have it especially with getting jailed after the relationship breaks down.
/r/MensRights18/03/10 12:56 PM
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Exactly. Divorced dudes bunking with guys caught with several ounces of pot in their pockets.
/r/MensRights18/03/10 04:03 AM
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Amen to that!
/r/seduction16/03/10 03:25 AM
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Amen to that.
/r/seduction15/03/10 03:38 PM
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Your more a master at this then I am. Thank you.
/r/seduction15/03/10 03:38 PM
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Where are the jobs that would hire me? Is it just the military or bust?
/r/seduction15/03/10 06:03 AM
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I know. My social circle has about 500 people in it. It may be a step up from the <5000 old people, married couples, and children (and about three single women I could date) from my 20's but most of my life appears to have been lived away from mass quantities of single women my own age.
/r/seduction15/03/10 05:31 AM
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Okay, no more negs after the initial flirting and only during the initial flirting if she's a 7+ and wouldn't talk to me otherwise. The relationship I was talking about with all of the negs was with a former female employer. She was a old gal I used to work with, not a girlfriend. She got me to sign contracts in exchange for training that never materialized. I spent my own money while working and never got paid from her until I started berating her after she 'fired' me. Several months after we u…
/r/seduction15/03/10 05:18 AM
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I think that would actually help.
/r/seduction15/03/10 05:13 AM
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I live in the suburbs near charlotte, an hour from the bus lines, no bicycle, no car.
/r/seduction15/03/10 05:13 AM
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Yes I do like to keep a woman at arm's length sometimes. I think its related to fear of the unknown which has only accumulated over time like a calcium deposit.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:11 AM
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I absorb them like a reflector dish covered with a doily and basking in the warmth of your warm hearted feelings like good news from the Pleides constellation that Elvis is Alive and Well and that he is the Messiah and will be coming again.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:09 AM
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I've done the meditation and reflection thing when I was a teenager and didn't have any friends. I would like to think I don't have to go back to that passive lifestyle.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:06 AM
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There's dating without sex. It's just not the same though.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:06 AM
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I need to develop relationship skills, pick up skills, I need to develop myself. I can't learn these by paying someone for a emotionless sex act. I'm still 30. If I ever grow old and never find anyone, I can still accumulate money, go to Thailand, and experience that sort of thing.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:05 AM
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;)
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:03 AM
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I really should attempt to meet more women. It's hard to get out of my comfort zone sometimes.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:02 AM
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I really should attempt to meet more women. It's hard to get out of my comfort zone sometimes.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:02 AM
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That was up until I turned thirty. I'm now in a suburb of a much larger town. I just never seem to... go downtown. I am in therapy.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:01 AM
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I'm not going out enough and meeting enough women.
/r/seduction15/03/10 02:00 AM
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I lived in a town of less then five thousand people for most of my twenties, and two or three years of that was spent living near the ocean and trees outside of the town with no transportation into town. 18 year olds graduated from high school and left because there were no jobs. Those that stayed tended to only hang out with people they knew from high school. I wasn't one of those people. There were only a handful of women in that town my age that I could meet and I dated most of them. My probl…
/r/seduction14/03/10 07:00 AM
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I could count them on the fingers of one hand. It's easier for me to ask someone to dance when the music on then to do pick-up only with a stranger. What I want is a companion/partner for shared activities such as going out to eat, listening to live music, going dancing.
/r/seduction14/03/10 06:57 AM
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Until I meet a woman where I am certain the memory of the relationship or affair will be a good one.
/r/seduction14/03/10 06:55 AM
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Thank you! I appreciate your support and assistance. If I could do it over again I would have hit being lead guitar and practicing my voice at a younger age. Now I'm just picking it up after realizing what a huge difference it will make in my social life. I'm downloading the material now. I'm used to warm approaches as well. It's less about the music and singing (which I've really got to practice more) but its more about me coming out of nowhere when they are on the rebound and need a guy like m…
/r/seduction14/03/10 05:28 AM
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Well my game has been improving slowly. Negs help break through any sort of female bullshit storm or ego-centric perspective but there's a whole lot more to a relationship then verbal teasing. My life as a single and virgin is a result of other factors. I only learned PUA around 25 and gained my first girlfriend in the first few months after that.
/r/seduction14/03/10 04:03 AM
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Well the first one is a friend in my social circle. She's already dated enough nerds in the past. She has some issues and would be a black hole for any affection. The reality is that I have more fun teasing her sometimes and it helps me keep my balance mentally since she's so hot I can get dizzy if I look at her too long.
/r/seduction14/03/10 04:01 AM
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It works out alright. She's a regular in my social circle but she's a black hole for any man that shows her too much interest. I have to keep a friendship with her because she is very valuable as a friend and her history of giving me social access to private parties but I have to maintain a distance because of that black hole thing.
/r/seduction14/03/10 04:00 AM
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Thanks for setting me straight on negs. I hadn't realized until tonight that it's for the initial meeting with a 8-10 to stand out. Your breaking down the standard format of meeting a woman to build comfort as well as opening up helps me. I've never thought opening up would be beneficial but now I'll step out more into that. 8-10... neg. Attraction, Isolate, Comfort, Open Up. Shoot, it sounds like you have a lot of experience meeting women. Field experience sounds beneficial to me. I've been exp…
/r/seduction14/03/10 03:59 AM
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There's no magic verbal entendere. Negs work best with beautiful women because they expect compliments on their beauty. When I was dating a 7- a Ghanan- she said she liked me because I never commented on her beauty like other men did. A neg with a beautiful woman might penetrate her bitch-shield and allow her to have a normal conversation. A neg with a plain looking woman might deflate her self-esteem and make her unhappy.
/r/seduction14/03/10 03:55 AM
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Yeah, but I didn't like her LOL.
/r/seduction14/03/10 03:53 AM
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I thought I had chosen the path I would regret least when I die. As I look back I now realize I was quite wrong. I thank you for your first few sentences. I've realized that creating fun takes more then the standard ideas and that sometimes I have to be really creative for the fun piece. It seems to attract a woman's attention when I can offer something no other man in their life can.
/r/seduction14/03/10 03:46 AM
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Sort out my... life? My life is already sorted. I have working in one area, reading in another. I have time to learn a foreign language in one part of my life, and walk along and take photography of pretty things I see while walking in another. In yet another sorted part of my life I'm writing several screen plays as well as directing short animation and live action with the neighbors. I cannot sort it any further without becoming over-scheduled. I can become more successful in various parts of …
/r/seduction14/03/10 03:37 AM
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Well- I used them to keep my self-respect rather then to woo her. Sometimes when I feel vulnerable and abused I prefer to use an appropriate tool to protect my ego. If I was a girl it would probably be a bitch-shield to protect myself from men throwing themselves at me like dogs. However since I'm a guy, it's the use of put downs when a meet a jerk of the estrogen variety. I do tend to put more velvet over the steel of it when I find the other person attractive though. I know it works when they …
/r/seduction13/03/10 10:41 PM
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