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Question for RedPillhauswyfetechno/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 03:13 PM
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This is good up till If a girl gets bitchy, you're getting through to her. which... no. Like sometime's that's the case but more often than not shes being bitchy because she finds you annoying and/or gross. This kind of advice is what leads socially clueless people to land themselves (and others) in gutwrenchingly awkward situations
/r/seduction08/09/17 05:16 AM
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I mean that really depends on the girl. Ime fucking in the street/in a scuzzyass bathroom isn't worth it though. Rather shell out for a motel. But I live in Asia so there are love motels on every street, I don't know what your situation is.
/r/seduction01/09/17 07:18 AM
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If it's normal in your country to live with your parents then at least it won't be embarrassing/weird... you could always ask to go back to her place (assuming she doesn't also live with her parents) or find a cheap motel somewhere (do those exist in Portugal?)
/r/seduction01/09/17 06:01 AM
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Sorry, what was that? Couldn't hear you over the sound of all the action you're not getting. Now don't you have a raid in wow to go to or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:45 AM
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Lol I'm not even a woman fam. Now crawl back to wherever you came from
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:43 AM
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kek LeaderofGamerGate Incel confirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:36 AM
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Inceldom really making you bitter huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 08:34 AM
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what does "low-t" even mean
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 07:33 AM
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You'll be first up against the wall kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 07:22 AM
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I'm being a bit hyperbolic, sure. But yeah, "white knight" or no these men make me sick to my stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 07:09 AM
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At the heart, a lot of them are just angry that they're not good looking and are incel or single. Well exactly! And I'm sorry but like, romantic rejection sucks but it's a drop in the ocean compared to what so many women have gone through. It's hard to stretch my sense of empathy that far.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:29 AM
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Right. If MRA was more than just a nonstop misogynistic circlejerk I might take them more seriously. It's sad, honestly, cause it just means that legitimate male issues will continue to go unrecognized and unaddressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:16 AM
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There are legitimate issues facing men. The problem is that these legitimate issues have been hijacked by the current incarnation of the Men's Rights Movement, which is fundamentally not actually pro-man, but rather anti-woman. Like, rather than advancing men's positions they seem to be more interested in attacking women. All the legitimate issues are drowned beneath a festering heap of hatred, misogyny and incoherent ranting. And these days mixed in with a healthy dollop of white supremacism an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 03:09 AM
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Explain for 15 marks?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:47 AM
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Fam, I know women who have been violently and repeatedly raped by men and they still don't actively hate and despise an entire gender consisting of billions of individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:41 AM
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They're proponents of a toxic and hateful ideology that has no place in a kind and just world. The world is worse off for their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:57 AM
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I do. Honestly I am not a violent man but I wish that most of the red posters on this sub would just die.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:55 AM
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See whatever I name you're going to pull apart for either not being conclusive or "scientific" enough, because you do not grasp the differences between social studies and hard sciences, so why should I waste my time? Also no offence but talking about gender dynamics with someone in India is kind of like talking nuclear physics with someone in Renaissance Florence; the conversation is interesting but ultimately the gap is pretty unbridgeable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:09 AM
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What you don't understand is the depth of contempt in which social "science" was and is held in at my end of the campus. In that case, your end of the "campus" (because like fuck do I believe you buddy but ok) are bad academics. A good academic understands the purposes and different ways of functioning of the full breadth of the academy, not just their own narrow little corner. Let me guess, you're an engineer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 12:00 AM
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If you were genuinely a "sweet guy" you would not be drawn to TRP in the first place. Two easy examples: "Dread game" (and to a lesser extent, "negging") is utilizing emotional abuse in order to manipulate others. "Pushing past LMR" is actively advocating that members ignore or disregard consent. What is your defence for these two pieces of terpy dogma?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:56 PM
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Sounds like someone doesn't understand how academia or social studies even work but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:54 PM
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None of that is TRUE though. You need to remember that the reds live in a deluded fantasy world of their own devising.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:51 PM
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Honestly, this is horrible but I've gotten into the habit of browsing r/incels and incel related threads every time I have sex. The smugness just adds to the afterglow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:50 PM
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This sub depresses the FUCK out of me because it makes me realize how many toxic, shitty, horrible people with toxic, shitty, horrible ideas there are in the world. After a day reading PPD I catch myself thinking things like "these men needed to be rounded up at gunpoint, sent to camps and gassed".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:48 PM
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I have to love how TRP would rather trust the ramblings of a bunch of bitter virgins on the internet to understand gender dynamics over the peer-reviewed findings of researchers working in fields specifically devoted to understanding gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:47 PM
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you aren't around here often enough then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:44 PM
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... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:41 PM
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Nice cult you have over there man. The Red Pill is fucking toxic . It straight up advocates for emotional abuse as a legitimate relationship strategy. It straight up advocates for ignoring or disregarding sexual consent as a sexual strategy. (which, oh wait, is supposed to be "amoral"... except no it fucking isn't you fucking sociopaths, sex is subject to morality the same as everything else). How do you think so much concentrated hate and bitterness is NOT going to have a harmful effect? Let's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 11:40 PM
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lol plenty of girls on Tinder want casual sex fam, trust
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 06:39 AM
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There is an entire compilation of posts on r/thebluepill detailing examples of how TRP is toxic for both men and women and ruins relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 03:53 AM
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yes I can So do so? it's not hurting anyone I beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:43 AM
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A lot of women pretend all they want is sex but secretly it's really hard on them emotionally to have a lot of casual sex with different men, it's not in the female nature to have disconnected sport sex. Ummmm citation needed? I still think it will catch up to the younger women that do have a lot of casual sex though. I don't think a woman can do that over time and not be somewhat negatively impacted. Catch up in what way? what negative impact?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:45 AM
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OK but can you give me an actual, concrete piece of actual advice - not vague and bitter theorizing - that TRP suggests that is not already mainstream dating advice? "Lift" doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 01:44 AM
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Life in general is better if you have a large social circle and actively go out with them IMO
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:43 AM
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THIS. Honestly the people whining about how girls go for "douchebags" just seem to think that "confident" = "douchebag"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:42 AM
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Is it such a hard and fast rule though? I think what you're saying there is culturally and perhaps generation-specific. I know far more women who are genuinely interested in casual sex qua casual sex than I do women who see casual sex as a means to enter into a relationship but that may just be the circles I move in. Either way I would be wary of anyone making such vast generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:38 AM
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It's genuinely good advice though. My own entire "game" strategy just rests on "visibly having fun". Women - like most people - like to have fun; they want someone who is fun to be with. If you're visibly and actively enjoying yourself, if you can demonstrate you're someone who is fun to be around, that's a magnetic quality, and women who like to have fun in the same ways you do will naturally be receptive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:35 AM
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I honestly feel bad for a lot of "terper" types of men out there. Some will get lucky, granted, but a lot of them will just fail hard, definitely more than once, and won't even understand why. If you adhere to far-right, tradititionalist bullshit and won't allow anything to contradict that narrative, you're fucked. And you don't even have the ability to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:30 AM
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Women do not value getting pumped and dumped, only damaged women and women that are hoping for a relationship out of it have casual sex, very few are doing it for their own pleasure, unless they just know that what u call a "Chad" will only fuck them and they are willing to make that sacrifice. i don't think this is true for everyone. I know a lot of women who simply enjoy casual sex for the pleasure of it and they're not all "damaged" or hoping to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:20 AM
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Being graceful when you get rejected is super important though, depending on context and social situation. Personally, I've managed to get with some girls because they were impressed at how well I took rejection from their friends, and in one case actually ended up dating someone who initially rejected me and was impressed with how cool and mellow I was about it. In a way, gracefully handling rejection is a natural and healthy extension of what TRP calls "abundance mentality" I think
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 12:05 AM
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Most of the actual advice that TRP gives though just boils down to "be more confident" and "work on your personal appearance", though. TRP just dresses everything up in a lot of unnecessary autistic jargon and throws in great huge helpings of hyper-misogynistic "theory". Honestly can't think of a single piece of workable TRP advice you can't find easily elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 11:57 PM
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Perhaps "personality issues" sounds too harsh, I mean it in a broader sense as in incorporating things like shyness/lack of confidence etc. And lack of game, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:24 PM
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Why is "the world is seriously fucked up" a more plausible explanation than "these guys have personality issues"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:11 PM
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Agreed. I reject RP for a number of reasons but chief among them is that RP theories do not match up to my own experiences of sex and dating, men and women, in the slightest way. Like honestly when I read RP stuff it feels like something beamed from a distant planet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:53 PM
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lol this kid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:51 PM
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I imagine the problem is that RP is too top heavy with closet Nazis for us to have any reasonable racial discussions here tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:49 PM
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Me and my ex used to engage in mutual masturbation a lot, primarily when we'd been fucking a lot and she was too sore to fuck but we were still horny. It's actually really fun, you should try it sometimes. Also done it a few times with ONSes where we ran out of condoms. EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not just randomly bragging here, I'm trying to explain why mutual masturbation is a thing and the sexual purposes it serves. It's definitely not just "a high school thing" I think
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:46 PM
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ONS anal is rare just because with unprepared anal there's often a slight chance of... accidents, and no one wants that, especially with a total stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:43 PM
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LOL today I learned that all of my sexual relationships for, like, the past 5 years have been "alpha deluxe". PPD sure is good for the ego. ATM is legit gross though I don't see the appeal at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:41 PM
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So why does the "20% of men are having 80% of the sex" still sound "not wrong" either? Sounds absolutely fucking ludicrous to me boyo but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:39 PM
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one thing I've noticed about RP dudes here is by and large you guys seem to really suck at having fun
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 11:36 PM
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Was first year at my university. Sartre and Existential Phenomenology, Phil 102
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 10:53 PM
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LOL someone's stoked about passing first year philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:28 AM
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OK at this point I am convinced that you are a dedicated and subtle troll
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 04:19 AM
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LOL at you getting so irritated at being asked to provide even basic support for your claims and dismissing everything that contradicts them as just "lol there are weirdoes so what". You have not shown, with anything approaching conclusive evidence, that the grand and innate differences in "drives" (what a loose and unhelpful word, btw) masculine and feminine stems from hormones or biology. Human attraction is incredibly complex - much more so than the mating rituals of other mammals- so to redu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 01:51 AM
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OK, but all you're pointing to here is some mild differences in aggression, competitiveness, muscle building, which don't seem to be the grand essentializing core differences you're making them out to be. Also, from the first article you posted: Men both high in testosterone and those who reported a high need for social dominance appeared able to beat out their competitors' ability to attract potential mates. However, when men reported a low need for social dominance, they were still able to att…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 12:30 AM
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And this difference in hormones determines how well each side can develop, probably what we focus on too. Citation needed? And our gender gives us some immutable things, women are valuable for their beauty and ability to create children by birth, men are worthless from birth. Women's femininity helps them achieve a family, men's masculinity helps them achieve becoming useful, valuable, and being accepted by a woman for family. I do not understand what you are trying to say here at all. How are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:54 PM
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What I don't get is WHY you are arbitrarily classifying these human traits as "masculine" or "feminine". Women have the capacity to build, destroy, command, and fuck. Men have the capacity to engage with people, rear children, create beauty, have fun, feel emotions etc. Like these are human things, not unique to either gender. A well balanced person will have developed all of these traits. What is the point of a priori designating them as "masculine" or "feminine"? To what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 11:40 PM
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Right, before we go any further do you mind giving me some kind of definition of what "masculine" even means to you? Cause right now it seems like you're just using "masculine" as a stand-in for "positive human qualities". I don't really want to pick apart your post until you can do that for me but just quickly Being a masculine man makes you a normal man with the ability to do anything, including develop your feminine side to your desire. LOL in what world? Traditionally masculinity is framed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 04:09 AM
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Strong geographic uncertainty is a BIG problem though. Source: met the perfect person for me in last year of grad school, we now live on different continents. Sucks hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:13 AM
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I just think we all have a 'type' that is hardwired into our brain. What evidence do you have to support this theory?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:55 AM
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I desperately wish people on this sub would stop speaking for "MEN" in general. You are not my representative and you have no right to speak for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:54 AM
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Studies add support, they're not the crux LOL I thought RP was supposed to be, like, super-empirical and scientific and based on biotroofs or something? Now you're saying it's really all just based on your feelings? Freedom to do what? Freedom to be as I want to be. I get to like videogames and sports, be competitive and self-reliant, fuck women, AND I get to express my emotions, be physically affectionate with male friends, and watch Project Runway and RuPauls Drag Race. Once you stop classifyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:31 AM
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Do you have a hundred studies to even give me, is the question? We tried the do what you want approach, denying gender norms and masculinity/femininity as legit or useful, and the result is TRP, men losing out on potential. I'll be bluntly honest: I do not think the majority of these men had much potential to begin with. You would have been losers in an earlier era too, though patriarchy may have propped you up a little and and maybe you could have had monthly starfish sex from some mousey littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:15 AM
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But like Do you not WANT your child to have as good a life as possible? Seriously though, I know plenty of people who've gone through divorces and none of them lost everything to their former spouse. This is a phenomenon I literally only every see brought up on Reddit so I presume it must be US-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 01:06 AM
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OK but like child support should be a no brainer. You should contribute to the rearing of your damn child. Honestly to me it sounds like this is (yet another) specifically American problem. I have never heard of "divorce rape" happening in the civilized world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:45 AM
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You deny male and female nature so, I don't even know where to begin with you. Do you believe testosterone had affects on the brain? I believe that gender identity is derived from a fairly complex interplay between socio-cultural and biological factors, and that it is particularly difficult to determine what is biological and what is cultural. I suspect that the biological bases for gender, their influence on identity formation/psychology, are relatively negligible, however, based on my experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:38 AM
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C I T A T I O N N E E D E D You're honestly babbling here man. "A general feeling state based on their past?" are you so removed from the lives of women that you think they're a radically different species or something? Women have egos mate. Confidence, as a phenomenon, does not differ so dramatically from men and women in its causes and its manifestations. This you would know if you ever talked to women. Are you what, incel or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:32 AM
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So you think that you, SetConsumes, have singlehandedly "figured out men"? That you are, what, some kind of Neomasculinist Prophet come to lead us back into the light or something? Look, you're just speaking from your own, inherently limited, perspective - as am I, as are we all. You have no grand insight into the deeper nature of gender dynamics and you aren't apparently even willing to bolster your viewpoints with any serious research, so... you'll excuse me if I approach your proclamations wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:30 AM
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It has a lot to do with adrenaline, viscerality, aggression, sure, death itself seems only abstractly related. As I said in another post here, I think you are projecting your individual neuroses and obsessions onto "masculinity" as a whole. Are you ex-military or something btw?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:20 AM
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Dude, you are making vastly over-generalized blanket claims about "masculine drives" and "feminine drives", making statements on behalf of billions of people, without a single shred of evidence. Now if you have any evidence to back up these claims, I'd be interested to read it; if not, you're simply masturbatorily splurging your own neurotic worldview onto the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:18 AM
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By whose authority do you feel you have the right to dictate what "matters for men" and what "men need"? Personally speaking, I lead a damn nice life without ever stopping to have existential crises about my "masculinity". And indeed, all the people I know who ever seem to actually stop and give stuff like this a second thought seem deeply unhappy and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:16 AM
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This is true of both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:15 AM
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People vs Worldly focus is what it comes down to Can you explain this? How is focusing on people somehow the opposite of being "worldly"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:09 AM
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Yet I've killed and watched people die. I've studied death for 15+ years in various forms. I worship death to some degree. Great, so you have an unhealthy obsession with death + some possible mental issues and now you think that this is somehow a laudable "masculine" trait? Miss me with that noise bro
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:08 AM
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Can of course. Women with a feminine core don't care however, it's a masculine drive. Citation needed. Money is a necessity so typically we get money from work, but money is not the purpose of a man's true work which derives from his true ambition and lifelong goals, purpose, his passion and specialization. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:06 AM
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Or you could just, you know, stop stressing your tits over whether you're "masculine" or "feminine" and just try and live a good life. Why are concepts such as "masculinity" and "femininity" so central to yourt identity anyway? Have you tried just being a person, instead of a MANtm?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:05 AM
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So you're simply defining "a masculine attitude" as "having self-confidence" now? Hamsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 12:01 AM
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fully half of all marred men have been through a divorce rape source on this magnificently hyperbolic preposterous claim Lewis? Also, I say this every damn time the question of "divorce rape" comes up but JUST GET A DAMN PRENUP PEOPLE. Also try marrying someone with an actual job/qualifications so they aren't financially dependent on you, that would also help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 11:49 PM
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Oh yeah sure, I feel you. I think thats the wrong approach though, one shouldn't judge sex acts by some kind of taboo/kink hierarchy (ie this is freakier than this thus it is what I want/is more enjoyable... I feel that a lot of guys do this with threesomes and anal, in particular). Better to judge each pleasurable act on its own merits imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:22 PM
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You'd think that but then also I find the overlap between people open to the idea of something like a threesomes and people who are generally kinky in other dimensions is quite high. All of the threesomes I've had have been pretty high on the kink scale... though I guess if you're into super specific fetish shit then it could be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:17 PM
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Good job confirming all of the stereotypes about the sleazebag western guys who are drawn to SE Asia
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 01:16 PM
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Had a few FFM threesomes, almost had an MMF threesome but the other dude ended up being an asshole at the last minute about things. Threesomes are awesome though they require a lot of physical and mental effort to pull off satisfactorily ime
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 03:30 AM
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Now That's What I Call Edgytm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:54 PM
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This is an interesting analysis but it's going to fly over the heads of 99% of the people here since honestly understanding post-structuralism/Lacananian psychoanalysis requires an extensive grounding in these theories to make proper use of them... for what it's worth I enjoyed it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 11:49 PM
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Honestly no. In the circles I move in the pattern is generally "fuck a few times first, then date maybe"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 02:04 AM
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Whew lad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/17 01:59 AM
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Groovy if u were a girl i would date u
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 08:36 AM
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Must be someone I can do drugs with
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:08 AM
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Haha that's funny, facial piercings are my kryptonite (especially septum rings). More metalfaced girls for me I guess mates
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 12:00 AM
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You know I think you're onto something there. My university had a 3:1 female to male ratio and it was generally pretty easy to get a gf/get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 01:15 PM
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??? I've dated virgins and I've dated women with 60+ previous partners, it's never been a thing that's concerned me. Maybe if I met someone with a count, like, in the quadruple-digits I may raise an eyebrow but I think I would be more impressed than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 04:18 AM
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I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:00 AM
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that's very specific
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:00 AM
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I usually just lead with something like "hey so, want to fuck?" Hasn't failed me yet tbh. Nor "ruined the mood". It's all about delivery though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 11:59 PM
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You lost me at The whole idea of consent is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:29 AM
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Look, when I hear people complain about political correctness it's usually dumb shit like "OMG they cast a black guy in Star Wars!" "OMG I'm not allowed to call gay people faggots!" "OMG I get shouted at for catcalling!". It comes across that the anti-PC crowd are just assholes who hate the fact that they're finally being called out for being assholes. Hence the comments about respect/decency. Now I don't know you, and I want to believe you are NOT an asshole, so can you give me a better example…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:28 AM
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Sorry, but whenever I hear people complain about political correctness I'm never sure what exactly they're complaining about. Can you give me a concrete example of what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:06 AM
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PC culture IS pretty great tbh. Also fuck tradition, fuck conservatism. No need for it in today's world
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:53 AM
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you know that you can be a sexually open high sex drive male and still have maintain the basic decency and respect and consideration for others that you lot call "political correctness", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:49 AM
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why is being empathetic and caring incompatible with having a work ethic and a sense of personal responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:46 AM
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getting consent can be a complete mood killer You know I hear this repeated a lot on here and I just don't get it. Maybe it's just a generational thing or whatever but I'm relatively sexually successful and I have never, outside of committed relationships, NOT asked for explicit verbal consent. And not once has it ever "killed the mood". A lot of the trick lies in how you ask, though of course
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 06:44 AM
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It's not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 05:32 AM
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you realize that "liberalism" isn't passed on through genetics right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:49 AM
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Like I know that the statistics bear this out but these findings are always so strange to me. Everyone I know of in my generation bones like bunnies... where are all these sexless millennials? America? It's America isn't it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 03:48 AM
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Fam, the people who are attracted to RP in the first place are neurotic as fuck and the ramblings you lot spew out reflect that. RP concepts have no basis in or relation to reality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 02:45 AM
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Real talk: why is such a powerful and developed country so backwards in so many ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:55 AM
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TRP is 100% neurotic down to its basic principles. Sane, healthy, well-adjusted people do not believe in concepts like "awalt", "80/20" etc etc. The entire sidebar is awash with examples of paranoia and extreme insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 01:54 AM
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Is this not already the case in most of the affluent Western world?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/17 12:01 AM
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I'll take r/thathappened for 1000 Alex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:56 PM
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I presume you're based in the states?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:50 PM
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TIL that believing that men and women can be friends is "incredibly liberal". Do people really feel this is the case? That makes me really, really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:36 PM
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TRP is inherently neurotic though. Like sure, maybe you can conceal that underlying bed of neuroses but you're still kind of shooting yourself in the foot by taking it all on and thus having to conceal it in the first place I would imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:20 PM
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out of interest could you link me to some "nuanced" manosphere stuff? Cause I've never encountered anything at all under that label that's not hyper-toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:17 PM
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I wouldn't say that cases where people have anonymously helped each other on Reddit are actually enabled by anonymity per se though...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 11:09 PM
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Got a new one actually. New job necessitated a more boring hairstyle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 08:28 AM
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Do you believe reasonable discussion is possible on PPD? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:32 AM
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Jesus Christ this thread is so fucking stupid. Yes, of all the many, many threats to our current civilization - geopolitical instability, rampant environmental degradation and destruction, depletion of resources, a failing global economy, ever-widening economic inequalities, the looming threat of nuclear war - it is definitely "dudes not getting their dicks wet" that will undoubtedly be THE leading cause of the fall of the West. Read a fucking book for fucksakes. Morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 05:31 AM
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This is legitimately surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:23 AM
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Blue Pill 11 out of 50 I'm normie af yo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/17 12:22 AM
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You just used a whole bunch of words to say nothing at all mate. America, as a whole, skews more right than the rest of the West. Basic fact. Americans don't realize this because as a nation you are incredibly inward-looking and myopic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:30 PM
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Idk man I have the body of a holocaust survivor and it hasn't stopped me from getting action, and I've met plenty of girls who are all over this skeletal frame. Your one experience with one women does not a trend make.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 05:59 AM
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lol what LewisCross has kids??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 05:36 AM
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Economics are all that actually matter. Everything else is superstructure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/17 03:45 AM
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Do Americans really not realize how right-wing their "leftist" political party is? The Democrats would be considered centre-right just about anywhere outside of the USA. You guys really need to pay closer attention to the rest of the world, give yourself more points of comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/17 11:46 PM
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Fam, being used as a useful hole by some douchey jockbros isn't affirming or validating. Teenage boys will fuck anything that lets them. Tick-infested sheep standing in raining fields get action when there's desperate horny boys around
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 04:58 AM
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she may have fucked them but did any of them want to date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:59 AM
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all humans are social creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:57 AM
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Speak for yourself man, I find dating quite fun. Maybe this perspective of "dating is just a boring, irritating means to an end" is why you're bad at dating in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 03:49 AM
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You talking circumcision? Yeah that's messed up I agree fam. I don't really know enough about it to make a statement about it though. Outside of religious reasons I don't get why it's practiced at all but I believe it's huge in the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:53 PM
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When I am in game mode black is the new black and my uniform is a jacket, slacks and a collared shirt. . .usually white, sometimes blue but if I am feeling CRAZY, it is pink. . .and I OWN IT. LOL you sound basic af to be honest. None of the women I know and love would look twice at you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:07 PM
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can you name a male issue that isn't "wahhh my penis isn't getting touched" that isn't framed as structural?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 02:01 PM
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I didn't realise that "not having enough game to get laid" was "every single male problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:52 AM
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We not tho fam
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 10:45 AM
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This is the face of MGTOW/RP/The manosphere folks. "Men" so bitter and spiteful they would disadvantage/abandon their own children just to get back at the evil wimminz
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 08:22 AM
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They don't belong to anyone. They are human beings. Are you so mentally and emotionally damaged that you struggle to understand the concept of parents having a moral obligation to care for their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 07:14 AM
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careful not to cut yourself on that libertarian edge there boy EDIT: like a few posts up you were singing the praises of fascism which is one of the most authoritarian-statist political forms out there, your political views seem to be completely schizophrenic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 01:17 AM
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Source on that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 01:08 AM
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child support you don't think men have any obligation to support their children? welfare is available to both men and women? divorce court/alimony JUST GET A GODDAMN DECENT PRENUP FOR FUCKS SAKE LIKE WHY IS THIS A CONSTANT THING HERE ITS SOOOOO EASY TO AVOID
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:03 AM
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Lily and Marshall's relationship sickens me to be honest. So much toxic codependence being framed as a romantic ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 12:23 AM
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The fuck did I just read
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/17 12:15 AM
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What if I told you that you can be respectful and kind and polite AND outgoing AND get laid? You're setting up a whole load of false dichotomies there my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:31 AM
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You are confusing "niceness" with "deferrence" or "spinelessness"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:36 PM
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Lol I'm a male. Just fyi
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 04:35 PM
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The problem is that they grew up in Bizarro World and are just attempting to replace their Bizarro World conditioning with Even-More-Bizarro world conditioning (eg RP). It's like these kids aren't even interested in trying to become well-adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:45 AM
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you don't understand sex very well I think mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:41 AM
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Just because someone is loud and boisterous does not mean that they are necessarily a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:38 AM
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feeeeemales REEEEEEE! Do you guys not yet realise how spergy that word choice makes you sound
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 05:35 AM
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? I don't really understand your answer. By that logic isn't all of the systematizing and theorising of RP largely useless
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:09 AM
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wait so do you admit that RP lacks nuance and is attractive to people who inherently struggle with nuanced and subtle thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:01 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 12:00 AM
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Twenty-six. i don't know if I consider any count "appropriate". People can bone as many people or as few people as they like, their business not mine. Edit: Male, 26 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:28 AM
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OK so I have four female friends (that I know of) with a count of over 50: Friend 1 is my closest friend. We've known each other for close to a decade and lived together for a year. Wonderful, compassionate, smart, funny person. Currently completing a PhD in philosophy (funded through scholarship), has several papers published already and attends a couple conferences every year. Likes tea and cats. Currently in a long-term relationship with a guy she's been seeing for 3 years now. Friend 2 is on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 06:25 AM
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Fuck me I just agreed with something Archwinger said. Is this a sign of the end times?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 01:59 AM
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Is it though? Like how discerning are we being here? I mean if you only bang 10/10 supermodels and law degrees from Harvard with their own yachts who also love anal then maybe....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 10:18 PM
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For most men, getting a very high N count is a rare and unusual feat Depends on how you define "high" or "very high" I suppose but it's really not some kind of grand feat to get a lot of notches on your belt dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 05:06 AM
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Autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 05:04 AM
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This about sums it up
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 11:48 PM
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LOL just had a fun little tour through your post history. You're a nutter! Good day sir xxx
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 11:43 PM
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I've literally never seen "#fragilemasculinity" used to shame men who express emotion or weakness, could you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:21 AM
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what better term do you suggest than "fragile masculinity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:20 AM
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LOL this comment. Unintentional comedy gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:14 AM
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Yes, I know they aren't going away. I just wish they would. Also, the right doesn't do shit. "Counter" or "balance" my ass all you do is hold back human progress. To the trashcan of history with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 11:47 PM
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Well, consider the bitter generational and cultural divides gripping the west right now. One of the main reasons why we have such a logheaded clash between conservative and progressive values is, well, conservatives still exist, even though the world they're trying to "conserve" is long gone and not coming back. You're not going to re-instate patriarchy, for instance, outside of the complete collapse of civilization. Stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 05:22 AM
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those traditional views/morals/ways etc are not appropriate for or compatible with or new context though. Which is why we need new ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:56 AM
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Meaning that our social and cultural norms, values and ways of being do not adjust rapidly enough in order to accommodate the massive social change wrought by technological advancement. Eg men still wanting women to be subservient or w'e even though the advent of technologies like the Pill, household appliances have liberated women from household drudgery and the potential of being enslaved to their wombs. (if you want an example more pertinent to the sub).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 03:57 AM
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it's DarkLordOmyChinnyChinChin of course it wasn't made in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 11:46 PM
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LOL he's being emotional? You literally just threw a hissing spitting tantrum on being told that having a better understanding of historical context would allow you to have a better understanding of feminist talking points and, therefore, make better arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 11:43 PM
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Sure, but I'm not arguing that technological change doesn't speed up cultural and social change; I'm arguing that it doesn't speed it up enough. We only have to look at the way that, for instance, religion is still a huge force in so many billions of people's lives despite scientific advances having arguably catapulted us into a "post-God era" some time ago. (Sorry for the suuuuper neckbeardy example but was the first thing that came to mind). Also: a good (if now somewhat dated) book to read on…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 11:42 PM
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Sure but culture and society often changes far less rapidly than technology does- a well documented problem of the modern world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 01:48 PM
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OK bud, let me rephrase: "In order to understand what concepts like patriarchy are and why they are still relevant, and in order to have reasoned, worthwhile conversations on the subject, people need to first grasp the idea that historical change is a slow process". Better, incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 11:19 PM
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People need to understand that historical change is a slow, slow process. A generation or two is nowhere near long enough to get dismantle millennia-old systems of inequality and oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 09:56 PM
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RPs basic premises make debate impossible in any case. When you set out believing that everything NOT RP is a lie or a fabrication and that you are one of an enlightened few exposed to THE TRUTHtm you aren't going to be able to actually have a decent argument with anyone. RP is a cult, not a coherent worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/17 04:51 AM
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Around 25 I suddenly got hot as dick (I'm 26 now). I don't know how. Born out by the amount of female attention I received that year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 05:11 AM
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Jesus I want to respond but also I sense it's pointless. For the love of Christ go to a shrink dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 02:17 PM
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You believe that there is a conspiracy by good-looking promiscuous people to destroy romance by "fake flirting" with people. That is not the belief of a sane person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 12:52 PM
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LOL O O L L My friend you are a LONG way from sane
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 12:25 PM
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What makes you think that high N people are sociopaths? Also, your posts are screaming "persecution complex!". Trust, there is no wide-ranging conspiracy by good-looking promiscuous people to "destroy romance" just to spite you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 12:21 PM
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Well I think therein lies it's appeal- a simplistic easy-to-digest approximation of a far more complex and difficult and murky world. At least you're bright enough to know it's BS though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 10:20 AM
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Newsflash: real men aren't scared of women and getting your dick wet doesn't make you a "cuck", incel.
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:18 AM
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He has one of the most followed accounts on Facebook and Twitter. That's a pretty damn bi accomplishment, arguably more so than appearing in Star Trek
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 09:21 AM
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ancient Greece, for example, was a patriarchy and not an oligarchy What? Ancient Greece was extremely oligarchic. The democratic process was restricted to a very small segment of the total population.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 08:44 AM
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... why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/17 06:33 AM
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logical reality focus No one who believes RP can claim to be logical or have any attachment to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 06:32 AM
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That's dumb. Some things in life - hell, many things in life- are not easily quantifiable, that doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't worth of thought and study. To believe otherwise is spergy in the extreme tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 06:25 PM
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Lol a whole three nipple hairs were enough to put you off of having sex entirely? That is HIGHLY neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 10:20 AM
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Why would you date someone if you can't take an interest in what she's passionate about and vice versa? Does not compute
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/17 08:15 AM
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Me and my gf talk about our respective exes all the time. It's interesting and as OP says tells you a lot about the other person. I don't understand the aversion most of the people here seem to have to talk of exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:13 PM
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so you don't exchange stories about your life with your partners? or ever talk about emotions or feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:08 PM
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Lol I loved how you jumped from "women don't feel validated by being pumped and dumped" to "women derive no pleasure from sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:04 AM
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Plenty of stupid guys, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 05:01 AM
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Hmmm. I forgot the bit where said strangers were all significantly physically stronger than you and wanted to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:13 PM
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Oh yes? Do you have a particularly dangerous job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 06:09 PM
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Nooooooooo Source: experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:36 PM
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This is the kind of thing that only someone who's never actually been put in a position where they're alone and vulnerable with someone with the capacity to badly physically harm them would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/17 04:29 PM
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Groovy, I like the cut of your jib. That is all
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:07 PM
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TIL all the women I've slept with must have only existed in my imagination because my wrists are tiny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:03 PM
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Are you trolling kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:02 PM
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Lol what? What is an ideal childhood anyway? I know people who've had truly brutally awful childhoods and who still manage to be more chipper, positive and successful than most of the whingers of r/incels
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 04:01 PM
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Right? It's delusional and extremely sad to think you "peak" at 15-18
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/17 03:59 PM
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Ok, fair enough, I misinterpreted your comment. My apologies!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:56 PM
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It cries outlier Implying that hyperactive girls are somehow more "abnormal" than hyperactive boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 04:41 PM
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Am I tripping or have you posted this exact same comment before?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 03:49 PM
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wait wait wait are TRPs arguing that women can't have ADD/ADHD now? God give me strength
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 05:07 PM
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Mate, what you just described sounds like fairly severe mental illness/personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:22 PM
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Can you show a causal relationship between economic depression in the USA and feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:26 PM
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do you UNDERSTAND the PURPOSE of the AUTOMOD?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 05:23 PM
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how do you define "works" in this instance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 08:37 PM
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This seems to be a common assumption of Red Pill - that boys need male role models in order to be sexually successful - but I don't know how true it is. Maybe I'm a snowflake or whatever but my own experiences suggest otherwise. I was raised by a single mother with pretty much zero male influence most of my life and I've never had many troubles with women. If anything I seem to understand women a lot better than most men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 12:27 PM
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Are you making the argument that the the Time Before Feminism was somehow better? Cause from all your descriptions it sounds pretty damn shitty man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:33 AM
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Fellow Saffa?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 08:28 AM
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I'm 5 foot 6 and I look like this. Physically I'd classify myself as pretty average, hell on the ugly side if anything. Yes, I go out to bars "and other stuff", so does pretty much every other average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:35 PM
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Straight up not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:46 PM
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"Some of its your fault, some of it isn't" is helpful in the sense that it prevents OP from taking on the full burden of responsibility onto himself which is counter-productive while also encouraging him to do some self-reflection in order to ascertain how and why he might bear some culpability- which is something no one can determine or work through but himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:35 PM
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Eh. Anecdotally, I don't struggle and nor does anyone I know. Only dudes I've ever encountered who feel so hard done by are you lot on Reddit. Surely if the "vast majority" of younger single men were undergoing such trials and tribulations I would have met at least some of them irl?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:29 PM
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... except u/lollygagyo has no idea what the specific details of OPs life are and thus can't actually deliver detailed advice like that? and neither can you. So your analogy is pretty poor m8
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:24 PM
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What evidence do you have to support the idea that most men are "struggling silently?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:14 PM
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It's "you're not entirely at fault, but there probably is some degree of culpability on your part; you should do some self-reflection and try and see to what extent and why that may be the case". What is so hard to understand there?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 04:02 PM
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shit has gone way south for most men that arent Chad or exceedingly wealthy. See this, though, is where you guys go wrong. You assume that every man in the world is going through the same struggles as you are, that every man finds sexual and romantic relationships so difficult and arduous and destructive to navigate. We're not, and we don't. You - the men of the Red Pill - are a minority. A loud minority but a minority nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:48 PM
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I don't doubt its common. I just don't think it's so widespread or devastating that it requires THE SEGREGATION OF BILLIONS OF PEOPLE FROM ONE ANOTHER TO RESOLVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:46 PM
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Lots of detail is not equivalent to "nuance". Also, I really don't think u/lollygagyo 's comment is that unclear or hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:44 PM
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That's dystopian af. We're not too different and those differences do not lead to as much conflict and pain as you seem to think. Most people in the normal world get along just fine with members of the opposite sex. Sexual partners aside, many of my best friends and colleagues are women; I wouldn't like to be cut off from them entirely. Anyway, on a simple practical level segregating entire genders would be such a massive logistical headache to achieve. Your idea is similar to the premise of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:38 PM
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How on Earth do you think society would be better off if half the population of the planet just straight-up ignored the other half? Like I'm baffled. How do you even reach this conclusion? Do you mind walking me through your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:30 PM
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-shrug- there are very few absolutely clear messages in life. Most things are a little of one thing, a little of another, and require some understanding of nuance and complexity to navigate. Which seems to be a major stumbling block for a lot of the people attracted to the Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 03:02 PM
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It's not actually contradictory. There's a difference between "you probably hold some culpability for this thing" and "you are 100% entirely to blame for this thing; it is all your fault". Nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:55 PM
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who is having all this sex?? me ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:46 PM
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... like, where do you live and what kind of social circles do you move in that MOST men you know are incel? and that you don't know any women engaging in casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:19 PM
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... so what is your criteria for historical accuracy? Things that don't contradict your worldview? I would actually love to know where you get your knowledge of history from
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 02:16 PM
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The idea that primitive hunter-gatherer societies were fairly egalitarian and peaceful is born out by extensive research both of the archaelogical record and by observation of extant hunter-gatherer societies. This is not an article of faith, it is a conclusion supported by literal mountains of peer-reviewed academic study across multiple disciplines, nations and generations. Humans in the past WERE incredibly warlike... following the advent of agriculture, which increased the rate and scale of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:22 PM
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You have no sense of humour nor sense of . . .reality. Gay men fill in the gaps in male superiority, in areas like art or fashion for instance. ... you can make a claim like this and accuse other people of having no sense of reality? Sheesh. Self-awareness really is in short supply among the denizens of terp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:19 PM
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Yep, yep, men were out hunting and the women who had the extensive knowledge of the plants and seeds and growth patterns weren't the ones to actually plants anything. As an aside the idea that in prehistoric hunter gatherer societies men were hunters and women were gatherers is an erroneous one. Men took charge over large game hunting but large game only constituted a very small percentage of a given groups food intake. Most of our nourishment would have come from gathering and small game huntin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:18 PM
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TRP exposes the problems with this in an attempt to reset a man's consciousness to be more inline with the state of nature that allowed humans to become the most successful species on the planet. This sentiment makes little sense. Much of what enabled us to become such a hyper-successful species lies in our technological and social evolution rather than any biological "state of nature".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:16 PM
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after all we hear tons of stories where men don't get sexual best and discover how their wives love sex and certain sexual acts, just not with them? Do we though? This is a really common piece of RP rhetoric but I've pretty much never heard of this happening irl. Hell I barely ever see concrete examples of it happening on the Internet- its spoken about as if it's a super common occurrence but has this actually happened to you? To anyone you know irl or online?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:05 AM
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Who is the "she" in this instance? You're playing a rather tiresome little game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:12 PM
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Lending support to someone and calling out idiocy and bigotry when you see it is not equivalent to denying anyone's agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:49 AM
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More action than you're getting chum ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:49 AM
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what majority, where? Because all the people I know in the real world will readily admit that looks and confidence are pretty damn important in dating. RP projects their naivete onto the general populace but most people are not this naieve, just as most men are not this bad with women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 11:03 AM
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It's grown out into a shaggy unmanageable mop. Debating shaving it all off but I'm super skinny so I worry I might look a little concentration camp-y
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:58 AM
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calling women who call men entitled entitled is projection PROJECTIONCEPTION
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:34 AM
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Bro I'm as white a knight as they come and I've never had trouble getting laid. I know it fits your narrative to assume that all male feminists are craven spineless incels-in-denial but, once again, reality begs to differ
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:28 AM
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"Confidence is attractive" is something said by literally every dating advice site though? And "muscles look good" is also pretty self-evident
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:26 AM
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See this is the thing though. The "reality" described by Red Pill has absolutely zero connection to the reality I perceive and exist in. From my point of view (and that of many other blues I think) the issue with Red Pill isn't just the misogyny, it's the level of (what seems from my point of view as) utter delusion. Like you guys live on a different planet entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:21 AM
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nah we really don't mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:19 AM
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you can be lazy and still look good though. I'm one of the most slothful individuals alive but I still dress well and keep myself groomed- requires minimal effort compared to 99% of the rest of the exasperating slogfest that is life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 10:13 AM
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OK. What grounds do you have for believing in universal eternal virtues? And how do you differentiate between universal values and culturally contingent ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:46 AM
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And as a blue if your experiences contradict red pill dogma you're told by terps that you're either a special snowflake or lying. And round and round the wheel goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 08:17 AM
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The ratios mainly depend on what kind of social environment you travel in. In conservative ones women are generally more covert I have a suspicion that TRP only really applies at all to women in conservative America.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 01:15 PM
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So you in fact have no views or arguments of your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 10:51 AM
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OK mate. Do you want to explain then what you mean, exactly, when you say that children of single parent homes suffer from a lack of adequate parental time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:33 AM
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OK. So am I right in saying that according to this logic Children in households where both parents work are equally disadvantaged by this lack of adequate parental time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:41 AM
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OK. So am I right in saying that according to this logic Children in households where both parents work are equally disadvantaged by this lack of adequate parental time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 06:41 AM
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... why does having casual sex necessarily imply that one is impulsive or not future-oriented though? That's a leap I do not understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 05:34 AM
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FTO?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:45 AM
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Yes; it says that they like sex. The horror!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:02 AM
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Well as long as you're aware that you're being irrational. Also dude... "I'm not below average in my metrics"... there's more to attractiveness than looks mate. Indeed I'd say the only real "metric" to measure attractiveness with IS n.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 04:00 AM
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What you're describing is benevolent sexism and is something that most feminists actively speak out against. The "women are wonderful" effect is not a consequence of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:02 PM
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Lol most men have at least a few casual hookups dudes. It's only on Reddit that people think tis isn't the case because the average redditor is, well, below average. I can't feel respect for a woman who let multiple dicks inside her Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 09:21 PM
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But like you're not necessarily being settled for dude. Everyone, male and female, cycles through a few relationships and hookups as the mature and develop. That doesn't make them "sloppy seconds" and it doesn't make you "plan b". All you're doing for yourself with this kind of attitude is closing yourself off from potentially good relationships on the basis of what, fear? That's "valid" only insofar as letting your insecurities drive your actions is valid I guess, and letting your actions be di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:59 PM
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But like you're not necessarily being settled for dude. Everyone, male and female, cycles through a few relationships and hookups as the mature and develop. That doesn't make them "sloppy seconds" and it doesn't make you "plan b". All you're doing for yourself with this kind of attitude is closing yourself off from potentially good relationships on the basis of what, fear? That's "valid" only insofar as letting your insecurities drive your actions is valid I guess, and letting your actions be di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:59 PM
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That's so... cowardly, though. Do you live the rest of your life like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:39 PM
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I suppose drug use is a hard no for you? everyone I know indulges in substance use so it's never really even crossed my mind that it might not be normal. Question: if you met a girl who was perfect for you in every way - whatever your vision of the ideal woman is - but you found out three weeks into courting her that she had an N of, say, 35, would you nope out of there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:22 PM
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you also can't tell if someone has underlying mental or emotional issues just by asking them how many dicks they've had up them either though bro. Sidenote: You seem absolutely TERRIFIED of women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:20 PM
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OK this is a long and thought out answer so I want to give it a long and thought out response: To me, a woman who has a lot of casual sex doesn't believe sex really means anything. It isn't really special to her. It's just a recreational activity, like playing video games or going to a movie. Sex is complex and doesn't necessarily have to be attributed the same level of meaning across each and every sexual experience. Sometimes sex is just simple recreation for me, as with casual sex or one nigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 05:16 PM
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No worries this place often gets heated. Now again I don't dispute that there is a correlation but I doubt there are any causal links there. So yes, the kind of woman who is drawn to substance abuse is also likely to be promiscuous but it does not follow therefore that all promiscuous women are substance abusers. Are these results adjusted for things like social class, educational level etc? Because those factors are also relevant. I don't doubt that sexual promiscuity can be correlated to thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:25 PM
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Sorry perhaps I'm not following but how is lack of economic security NOT an economic problem? And the lack of adequate parental time I'm presuming comes from the fact that single mothers have to work longer hours in order to support their child, is that not a fair assumption? You did a good job of providing evidence, I'm just trying to examine your evidence to see why this may be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:19 PM
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Dude if you can't tell someone's crazy on the first date then you're either a teenager or incredibly unpercetive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:04 PM
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Calm down fam, I was complimenting you. Now, again, does this research suggest a causal or correlative relationship between promiscuity and psychological issues in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 03:03 PM
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Well both economic security and lack of adequate parental time are both fundamentally economic problems, no? The problem isn't single mothers per se but rather a socio-economic system that makes being a single mother difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:56 PM
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I mean, at least you back your statements up with research. I still don't think there's a direct causal relationship there - it seems more likely that women with various psychological problems tend to be promiscuous, not that promiscous women tend to have psychological problems. And again... you should if you have any sense be able to spot such a woman from a mile off, regardless if you know her n-count or not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:40 PM
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Both problems are primarily economic ones though. Fix the economic system so that it's possible to support a child financially and actually spend time with said child and the problem vanishes. I'd be interested to see if the same problems occur in countries with better labour laws and social security systems
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 02:37 PM
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Are you comparing having casual sex to smoking crack? Dude... At the end of the day it comes down to this: casual sex is no big deal and says nothing more about a person's character than that they like to fuck. That's it. Bam. Finito. Doesn't mean that they have commitment issues, doesn't mean they're damaged goods, doesn't mean shit. You can tell crazy people from a mile off if you are even a little bit perceptive, you don't need to know someone's n-count to know if they have issues or not. Ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:46 PM
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Are you comparing having casual sex to smoking crack? Dude... At the end of the day it comes down to this: casual sex is no big deal and says nothing more about a person's character than that they like to fuck. That's it. Bam. Finito. Doesn't mean that they have commitment issues, doesn't mean they're damaged goods, doesn't mean shit. You can tell crazy people from a mile off if you are even a little bit perceptive, you don't need to know someone's n-count to know if they have issues or not. Ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:46 PM
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Fair enough. Speaking as someone from a single parent home, I know plenty of people who turned out fine raised by just one parent and plenty of screw ups who had both parents in the picture, so the RP narrative of "single mothers are bad for civilization" holds little water for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:42 PM
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It's an indirect observation of past behaviour. Why not judge someone by your own actual interactions with them? Direct observation>indirect observation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:29 PM
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Your "basic reasoning" (ie "projecting your own narrow assumptions and preconceived ideas onto the distant past") does not trump actual research on the subject. Sorry bud. On mobile now but if you like I can drop by with some reading later if you want verification for the points I posted above. I did actually tell you where you were wrong if you'd care to read my post again. "Common sense is akin to nonsense".
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 08:54 AM
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Out of wedlock births and diseases can be prevented through proper use of contribution and abortion. I also don't see how a more conservative sexual system would necessarily lead to more "stability" nor do I think that two parent homes are necessarily better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:44 AM
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So yes, you're talking out of your ass. Prehistoric hunter gatherer societies worked nothing like you seem to think they did (gathering was a task performed by both men and women, large game hunting was performed by men but happened fairly rarely, with gathering and small game - which women also hunted- making up the bulk of food intake, some other details). All the evidence suggests that the genders were more or less equal in prehistoric hunter-gatherer societies and that defined gender roles a…
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 08:37 AM
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So yes, you're talking out of your ass. Prehistoric hunter gatherer societies work nothing like you seem to think they did (gathering was a task performed by both men and women, large game hunting was performed by men but happened fairly rarely, with gathering and small game - which women also hunted- making up the bulk of food intake, some other details). All the evidence suggests that the genders were more or less equal in prehistoric hunter-gatherer societies and that defined gender roles and…
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 08:37 AM
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-sigh- Tell me, where do you draw your information on hunter-gatherer lifestyles? Can you cite a single book you've read on the subject?
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 08:16 AM
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I see practicality in a more reserved sexual environment Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 08:13 AM
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I find it interesting that you define virtues as eternal universal categories And then a paragraph down you cite Macintyre, whose primary contribution the field of virtue ethics was the notion that virtues themselves were contingent upon particular cultural and historical contexts (in moral relativism). I think you need to go back and read After Virtue more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:55 AM
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I find it interesting that you define virtues as eternal universal categories And then a paragraph down you cite Macintyre, whose primary contribution the field of virtue ethics was the notion that virtues themselves were contingent upon particular cultural and historical contexts (in moral relativism). I think you need to go back and read After Virtue more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 07:55 AM
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Right? As it happens two of my best female friends both have phDs in philosophy. I'd love to see this neckbeard try and engage either of them in "deep" conversation.
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 07:43 AM
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You guys need to actually do some actual reading about how actual hunter-gatherer societies actually operated. Women weren't just sitting around the camp all day while the men went and hunted.
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 07:39 AM
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Thank you! This is exactly why I find this argument so dumb. Most of the negative traits that terps thing n-count is indicative of can be observed much more accurately and directly just by observing a person's behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:19 AM
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You seem madder than a March hare so I may regret asking this but I'm bored so: how do you define "virtue"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 06:05 AM
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To each his own I guess but I find that super weird. Insecurity is literally one of the most unattractive attributes in a person that I can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 01:38 PM
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I don't think you understood the post very well tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:55 AM
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Thoughtful post. Too bad most people here won't bother reading or understanding it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:54 AM
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Women do not tend to care about lofty civilization building concepts like morality and virtue I think Martha Nussbaum, Hannah Arendt, Julia Kristeva, Judith Butler and others may disagree. Also feminism by definition is a moral philosophy. But sure, women somehow just don't ever think of or care about morality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:34 AM
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and that insecurity just makes them more attractive to me ... why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:29 AM
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and that insecurity just makes them more attractive to me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:29 AM
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High effort post
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 08:28 AM
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Idk bro I just associate psychedelics with higher levels of self-awareness than we see with the average terp. Also I think you accidentally a word in your last sentence, also among the most famous users of hallucinogens in ancient Greece were the (female) Delphic oracles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 06:54 AM
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I can't imagine a terp on mushrooms for some reason. Concept breaks my brain a little
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 12:02 PM
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Eh, just repeating what my gf said on the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 05:53 AM
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What? It's dumb. Why would A) the concern that someone could, potentially, somehow be of concern in the first place and why would a person with a promiscous past be more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:23 PM
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That's dumb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 09:16 PM
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If it's such a natural intrinsic reaction how do you explan men simply do not care? Are we inhuman or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 11:50 AM
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It makes a difference for women with longer vaginas though. For women with longer vaginas longer penises are obviously more satisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:38 PM
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There's no need for a solution because there is no problem to begin with. RP takes the sexual and romantic challenges faced by the bottom 10% of men and assumes that they are some kind of far-reaching societal crisis. They're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 06:54 AM
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Low energy comment, 1/10
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:20 AM
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Lol. You can keep your slackjawed basic bitches "bro". Human behaviour is predictable, but only a sperg tries to bse their decisions on statical probabilities rather than their own experiences and judgment. You can keep your judgments to yourself mate. I find my partner gorgeous and she's a damn good women :) Trust me I'm almost certainly a much happier man than you. How old are you anyway, 19?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:51 PM
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Be specific. You're speaking in vague metaphysical terms, I want a concrete and tangible example. Else you could use the same line of argument to defend literally any category no matter how arbitrary or absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:22 PM
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Human beings denote and categories. Yes, I agree, and you expressed yourself very eloquently do. But what is the point, specifically, of categorising behaviours into masculine and feminine? What good does it achieve? I have yet to find a satisfactory answer to this question
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 11:51 AM
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Lol as soon as a terp busts out the "special snowflake" line I know there's no point continuing. If someone's so far down the rabbit hole that they no longer believe that human beings are individuals... Numale and hipster sure but I'm relatively confident that I've slept with more women, and much hotter women, than you have. And I've never lifted a day in my life. Don't that make you mad chum? That for all your lifting and obsessive theorising and frame there's still faggy little Femboys getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:01 AM
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Sperg.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 08:06 AM
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Jesus fuck I just threw up in my mouth and little. I don't like to throw out this term in an insulting fashion but that is literally THE most autistic thing I have ever read. Protip: PEOPLE ARE NOT COMMODITIES.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 07:39 AM
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There is no such thing as "cultural Marxism" outside of the fevered imagination of alt-righters Got any science to back up the idea that Un-masculine men are simply low testosterone? I am fairly feminine in my behaviours, mannerisms and interests but my testosterone levels are very high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 06:08 AM
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There is no such thing as "cultural Marxism" outside of the fevered imagination of alt-righters Got any science to back up the idea that Un-masculine men are simply low testosterone? I am fairly feminine in my behaviours, mannerisms and interests but my testosterone levels are very high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 06:08 AM
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There is no such thing as "cultural Marxism" outside of the fevered imagination of alt-righters Got any science to back up the idea that Un-masculine men are simply low testosterone? I am fairly feminine in my behaviours, mannerisms and interests but my testosterone levels are very high
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 06:07 AM
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OK, first of all, sexual orientation have very little to do with one another. You can be gay and masculine at the same time. Secondly, let's say for arguments sake that you're right, that 63% of women do not want partners who have had same sex experiences and that same sex experiences = Femboy. That leaves behind 37% who are at least open to dating these men, which in the USA would mean around 46 million women. If you're a particularly feminine man or not comfortable being traditionally masculin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 05:52 AM
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You sound like fun at parties
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 05:28 AM
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Ah yes, every one who contradicts terp dogma = an outlier. I forgot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:19 PM
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What is the point of categorising your behaviours into "masculine" and "feminine" anyway? What good does it do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:33 PM
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Like 5 foot 7 or 8 I think. On the short side
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:32 PM
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There are options though. The option is simply: be what you want to be and be a good person in the process. Stop getting so hung up on being a MANtm and focus on being a human instead. Honestly my masculinity is something that jut never crosses my mind 98% of the time and I'm happier for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:19 PM
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Women aren't attracted to Femboys Ohhhh yes they are. Source: Am Femboy, get laid a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:10 PM
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Yet it is by and large men who police maculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 05:09 PM
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Sounds like she either just wasn't ever attracted to you or your game is just hella weak. 9 months is a loooong time to just be hovering around someone without progressing things any further.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:17 PM
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Did you ever actually pluck up the courage to make your interest known or ask her out directly though?
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 12:54 PM
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Tinder isn't the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:54 AM
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I've actually been toying with the idea of creating a similar thread myself. I really don't think Red Pill ideology or tactics apply very well at all to subcultural/countercultural scenes. My experience is more with the underground rave/alternative dance music scenes so pretty different from Atlas's but I've made similar observations. And I'm a millennial as well so I don' think it's just a generation thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:50 AM
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Yes. Gang members use violence to achieve rational ends (self-enrichment, social status primarily).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:05 PM
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That's... sad. Really sad. You are fetishizing and attributing meaning to n-count that it doesn't actually have, and in doing so you run the risk of losing out on potentially wonderful relationships because you are scared of shadows on a wall. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 06:44 AM
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I really don't understand that reasoning though. Are you saying if you met a girl who was perfect for you in every way- kind, caring, beautiful, loyal, whatever you want out of a life partner- but you found out that she'd slept with, say, 50 people before you you'd turn her down? Re: commitment issues... girls with commitment issues are obvious. You don't need to know some arbitrary factor like partner count to know if she has problems committing or not, those problems will manifest in her inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 06:22 AM
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My apologies but you're spouting some very stereotypically red views so I assumed you were red. Your analogy is still a false equivalence. Fucking around while unattached is not equivalent to cheating and does not necessarily indicate "commitment issues". Now if a woman has a history of cheating on here partners I could get behind this "red flag" argument, but some casual sex before you feel ready to settle down- a stage which pretty much everyone, male and female, goes through (or wants to anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 06:00 AM
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I would argue that most men do care about a woman's n-count Says who...you? We can go in circles like this all day I can say at least that I don't care, and nor does any man I know irl. Men are not a single homogenous group and TRP is not the voice of all men everywhere. About as rational as a woman wanting to know if her boyfriend beat any of his exes Buddy. Seriously. Seriously. Are you comparing promiscuity to domestic abuse? Your analogies are absurd. In the case of domestic abuse a partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 05:20 AM
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That analogy makes zero sense buddy. Apples and oranges. There's no "cost" to promiscuity (assuming safe sex practices of course) other than judgment from dudes like you which is entirely irrational. Fortunately most men aren't so neurotically hung up on n count and dgaf how many partners the women they love have had before them. If you want someone whose sexual values are compatible with yours that's fine, but don't go around claiming women who like a bit of casual sex are somehow "Ill discipli…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 04:58 AM
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I don't understand your reasoning here: either this person lacks discipline and self-control, or they have a hard time making people want them and holding on to relationships. Why are those the only two options? Is there not a third (and far more likely) explanation- that she simply enjoys casual sex (just like you or I) and decided to have a lot of it before settlin down (just like you or I?). I don't see why you consider this a "lack of discipline and self control".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:47 AM
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You guys literally ban everyone who disagrees with you though. How is RP not narrow minded or collectivist?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 01:38 PM
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Tripping is a whole different ballgame friend. That being said I wouldn't want a partner I couldn't get hammered with either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:31 AM
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I understand a free thinker as one who is able to understand and appreciate many worldviews and whose thought is as free of unnecessary constraints and biases as humanly possible. Simply taking a contrarian position doesn't qualify you as a "free thinker"; by that definition conspiracy theory whackjobs who think Reptilian shapesshifting Eddie Murphy did 9/11 are also "free thinkers"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:29 AM
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That's an odd definition of "free thought" then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 09:14 AM
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Because Red Pillers are SO internally consistent in their views and beliefs...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 07:39 AM
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Any man who doesn't share your worldview = an idiot. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:30 AM
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If you want to be a minority or freethinker, TRP is your place Just because TRP views are in the minority does not make you "freethinkers". On the contrary it's one of the most doctrinarian and hostile to dissidence ideological movements I have ever encountered. Also, everyone I know uses "slut" as a gender neutral term, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:28 AM
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"Cringe factor?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:22 AM
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Ja TRP views sex as a transaction/commodified process operating according to the same logics as market capitalism. You're right, it's really gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 06:19 AM
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Mid 20s, South Africa. It's pretty simple, still takes a modicum of effort but it's not the arduous task that TRP makes it out to be. I struggled a bit a few years back because I'd just gotten out of a three year super toxic LTR and I'd forgotten how to be single but that came right with a bit of practice. I'm also pretty deep in the club scene though which definitely helps. Interestingly, all of the last 5 casual sexual encounters I've had were instigated by the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:45 AM
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... or neither party particularly feels like dealing with the admin that comes with a serious relationship at that point in time, which ime is far more common
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:33 AM
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What makes Toronto specifically such a tough place to get girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/16 05:26 AM
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Let me rephrase: Any man who is not actually ugly, has reasonable social skills and lives in a reasonably populated area can get laid fairy easiy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 07:54 PM
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If it is exceptionally difficult for a man to achieve something as basic as getting laid then he is below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 07:41 PM
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Jesus fuck but you guys don't understand women at all. It's like watching seahorses trying to play croquet
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 07:34 PM
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they really think it's easy for an average guy to get casual sex That's because it is easy for an average guy to get casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 07:01 PM
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Lol. Because an incels respect is so important to me. Byeeeee! Xx
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:27 PM
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Yes? And how does this prove that humans are no more complex than animals? You're rambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:16 PM
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Oh yes? And why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 06:14 PM
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So you are a basement dwelling neckbeard then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:28 PM
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You're delusional. Also I should have checked your post history before engaging with you, would have realised you are full tinfoil. Byeeee! xx
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:20 PM
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You know you aren't doing much to combat the "all terps are basement dwelling neckbeards" stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 03:51 PM
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What about when a human goes through the same routine in a zombie state? That's exactly what I'm saying- that even when our brains are mush and we're half a sleep there's still a bare minimum of conscious engagement going on. Thinking and self-awareness doesn't just turn off. You've never experienced when you just stop thinking and let your instincts guide you? Maybe in certain exceptional circumstances, like getting injured and instinctively applying pressure to the wound. Again I don't deny th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:20 PM
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Most of our behaviours and actions are repetition unto muscle memory and then it becomes instinctual Disagree. As an example of think of an average persons morning routine. The wake up, they shower, they brush their teeth, get dressed, make coffee, eat breakfast, go to work etc. Repeat the same pattern every day for years. Now at some point the routine becomes fairly automatic but it never stops being a conscious process. It consists of a series of repeated decisions which the individual is awar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 01:48 PM
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Everything we do goes back to a basic instinct based on how we would have had to survive based when we were cavemen. No, it doesn't. Basic survival had not been a major concern for most of modern humanity for some time now and in any case the majority of human behaviour is considered not instinctual. The complexities are mostly abnormalities because the population is so huge That doesn't make any sense. If the context of larger populations results in shifts and changes in our behaviour (which I …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 12:15 PM
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Before we continue- how are you defining complexity and how are you defining behaviour? Also I'd like to add that the simple fact that human behaviour has to be broken down in the firs place is testament to its complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:10 AM
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Dude. Put this in perspective. You and I are having this conversation from thousands of miles away, by stringing together sequences of symbols utilising complex machines that are the result of the combined specialised labour, physical and intellectual, of thousands of other humans across the globe and over a span of decades. We literally rule the fucking planet and won evolution so hard we're in danger of actually self-destructing out of sheer boredom. But yes, we're no more complex than dogs /s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 04:19 AM
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OP I love you. The Phantom of the Opera is my favourite piece of theatre ever and in fact I was just re-watching the film the other day and thinking how it was relevant to the whole Red Pill debate. Even considered making a thread but then thought it was a silly idea..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:39 PM
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Bro you're a lost cause if you think any animals psychology comes even near to the complexity of even the dullest humans. Language alone changes the game completely and that's just the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:25 PM
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Holy crap that could have gone horribly. I had a similar experience where I accidentally took too much acid and lost my mind very dramatically and publicly at a party and my ex took very good care of me both during and in the aftermath of the trip. Ability to trip together is a very good yardstick of how compatible two people are ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:22 PM
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Yeah if you don't think there's a qualitative difference between a human being and any other animal than idk fam. You're way out of touch with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 01:00 PM
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You're weird man. Totally reasonable about just about everything except this single minded obsession with Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:59 AM
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Anakin Didn't act like a brat Come ON fam. Anakin is famously one of the most whiny, irritating characters in film history. The way you guys are unable to even have valid opinions about movies without them being warped and twisted by your neurotic fear of women... sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 10:41 AM
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the intrinsic the problems of that ideology started at least with the 2nd wave Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:48 AM
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Well, yes? We're human beings not animals. The bar is set a little higher
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:45 AM
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That's what makes it so appealing. The ultimate reassertion of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:43 AM
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Based on my social circle pretty much no one. I don't think I know any guy who really struggles to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:53 PM
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I know I'm in a minority here but I'm a straight male and lesbian porn does nothing for me. There's no point of identification you know? Mind you I also grew up around lesbians so I don't think they've ever been "exoticized" for me the way they have for most dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:51 PM
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I read your post chum. You do realize that a significant majority of rape cases end up being thrown out simply because it's a damn difficult crime to prosecute, right? Just because the cases are closed does not mean the rapes did not happen. Re: video footage, less than 100 seconds of the entire event was caught on film and a lack of physical resistance is not the same as actual consent. Let's also take into account the fact that the woman went into a separate room with the original two men, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:49 PM
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Ah, the TeRPs of PPD play yet another round of "let's defend rapists!". Just because she consented to sex with two of the men involved DOES NOT mean that she consented to sex with all five who eventually got involved. Why is that so difficult to understand? A woman deciding to have a threesome with two dudes is not an open invitation for every other dude there to jump in. And even if she did want to bang all five of them (unlikely), she still has the right to withdraw consent at any time- if aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 05:21 PM
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OK, well I've had one year long dry spell before, do I count?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:24 PM
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I love romcoms. I'm also feminized as fuck though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:22 PM
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and for many men, cross sex friendships are part of the problem. They are female brained men who are more comfortable around women because they were socialized by women and feminized men. They need to get around more men and have more male friends and do more masculine things with other men, instead of relying on female friends and "friends first" and other such silly notions of dating and mating. And because they are socialized by women and become female brained, women don't see them as sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:12 PM
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... what? Are you saying that women only talk about their sexual pasts with guys that they are interested in hooking up with? Because that's flat out wrong, from my experiences at least. My best friend in the world is a woman (we actually lived together for a while) and we've never even remotely considered the possibility of getting together- just don't see each other in that way. Yet we know EVERYTHING about each other's sex lives. And I have a few other good female friends who I don't see in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:06 PM
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Define "chronically" rejected and single. How many times do you have to be rejected for it to be considered "chronic"? And how long do you have to be single for it to be considered the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 10:41 PM
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If a man tells you to "just get over it" will you listen? Just get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 09:45 AM
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Probably because fame and fortune does a metric fuckton for confidence and game friend. Also allows one to move in circles where one just has more access to attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:14 PM
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Yeah fam. Like obviously she's a little better looking than him but not massively so. He's not as ugly as you seem to think he is and she's not as pretty as you seem to think she is. Now factor in the fact that he's probably smart and witty and charming as all hell given his profession, well, it's not hard to see how they'd end up together. I don't think his wealth or status played nearly as much a role as you would suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:53 AM
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You do not see this sort of guy dating a woman who is clearly in the top 10% of women in terms of attractiveness on a regular basis. Honestly I think Merchant and Marzano are fairly looksmatched. I wouldn't bat an eye if I passed that couple in the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 11:35 AM
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men like you maybe. Please stop assuming that every one of us shares the same vile worldview as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:02 AM
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Bit of a side-rant but as a diehard techno head it irks me how much clubbing seems to get looked down on here (on reddit in general and ppd in particular). People seem to miss the point. Clubbing - if you're doing it "right", anyway - really isn't about hooking up. Like you can hook up fairly easily at a nightclub/festival, obviously, if you have good game and good looks it's almost guaranteed, but it's not the point . The point is the music. I've spent 8 hours + out dancing continuously and not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:53 AM
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Irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 07:50 AM
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ymmv but I know far more women who don't enjoy going out than I do men who don't enjoy going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 07:45 AM
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Do you really think so? I think that "bad" may be more universally applicable than "good". To go back to the food example: No one likes bland, tasteless, stodgy meals, or food that's off, or whatever. But some people love sushi and others can't stand it, some people live for insanely spicy curries while others blanch at even the prospect of a mild sprinkling of chilli. People's tastes vary quite significantly, in romance as well as in food. This is obvious and I really don't know why Red Pillers…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:48 PM
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Egg, meet chicken. Chicken, meet egg?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:25 PM
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Terrible example though given most people have pretty varied opinions as to what counts as "delicious" food. Sex is as universal as food and as subjective as food tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:24 PM
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LOL, what is a "pseudo-type"? Also "hipster" is a meaningless pejorative these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:50 PM
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You can do both though. Most of the razor-sharp academic friends I have who very much enjoy sitting around listening to weird music on good soundsystems and having deep af conversations are people I met in bars/while partying. This idea that intelligent, cultured people are incapable of enjoying "pleb" activities like drinking or sports doesn't really hold up to scrutiny and is, to be honest, very neckbeardy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:57 AM
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YES. This is how I've gotten with pretty much all of my past hookups post high school and how I met my current gf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:55 AM
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Hmmm, I'm a DotA player myself (dotamasterrace!) with only a little experience in League so maybe its different (League seems to be less dependent on teamwork than DotA from what I can tell) but I find playing without mic incredibly frustrating, and I definitely do better in games where I'm able to have easy fluid communication with my team. Then again I also tend to play supports and initiators and I think in those roles clear communication is even more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 01:05 PM
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Communication with your team? Stopping to type is incredibly slow and clunky and means that you're sitting there like a tool while you try and organize something, and pings only communicate so much. Like obviously it's very possible to enjoy and play the game without voice communication but especially at higher levels of play a mic is kind of essential. P.S I should have know you were League trash OncleJulian ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:50 PM
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Suffrage and womens rights in the civic tree, unsexualized female leaders Why should historical movements like suffrage and women's rights not be included in a historical RTS? And why do the female leaders need to be sexualized? The male ones aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:22 PM
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You can play hours and hours with no mic not revealing your sex either way, male or female. Depends on the game. In competitive MOBAs like LoL or DotA 2 playing without a mic places you at a huge disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 12:20 PM
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Love them. My partner's ink is one of the my favourite things about her body
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:29 AM
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Which women, where and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:55 PM
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So Chad is just "any man who doesn't experience all of the woman trouble that TRP does?" 3/4 of the planet is "Chad" by that definition mate...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:45 PM
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They expect more attention, more money spent on them, they expect the man to do all the planning, men to fawn over them, men to lead the relationship (or else they get bored). Women basically bring nothing to the table except sex, and to a lesser extent a pleasant personality. You know, I've had several long and short-term relationships and I've never felt this crushing burden of expectation of which you speak. All the romantic partnerships I've been in are based on the premise of equality- equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:35 PM
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I'm a man, actually. Why do you think women expect to receive more in courtship, dating and relationships? What more are they expecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:03 PM
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because it would make you sound slightly less like an obsessive nutjob? Seriously the ONLY people on the internet who seem to talk about "forward grown maxilla" and "compact midfaces" and whatnot are incels. Idk why that is but when I hear people use this kind of terminology I immediately think less of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 04:03 PM
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what bullshit is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:36 PM
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forward grown maxilla can't you just say "a handsome jawline" ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 03:36 PM
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I see your points but I find the over-use of hyperbole on this sub in general to be immensely irritating and inimical to actual worthwhile discussion. So I like seeing the hyperbole called out and picked at in the hope that people will stop leaning so heavily on it. I don't think it's "autistic" to finding sweeping generalizations and hysterical over-exaggeration to be useless irritations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:29 AM
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Perhaps the red side of the debate should stop over-indulging hyperbole to such a laughable degree and actually try and have some nuanced arguments for a change then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:10 AM
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but like who DID hurt you, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:31 PM
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Oh hey dude! I remember you from the south africa sub. Didn't know you frequented PPD Yeah, all your points are valid. I definitely think that racial bias skews the dating game significantly and that it's much harder in general for black men to get into relationships with white women and vice versa, I just think that OP's original point- that the only white women who get into relationships with black men are "fat white trash" or something along those lines- is untrue and hyperbolic in the extrem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:12 PM
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So just to clarify: you're not talking about non-attraction to attraction, you're talking about going from actual repulsion to attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:00 PM
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Earnest chortling coming from this side of the world ;) All I'm saying is if black dudes are regarded as desirable here, of all places, I think that they can be reasonably said to be desirable almost anywhere. So I don't think race is as much of a deciding factor as you're making it out to be and it has more to do with other factors or with you being in an especially conservative or racist area than it does to do with general or universal stereotyping, you see what I'm getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 09:51 PM
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/u/hauswyfetechno's girlfriend here: Objectively, I am sure he was attractive. However, to my mind, he was merely a platonic interaction. Only given the correct circumstances did I begin to factor in his appearance and personality as sexual entities. I regarded him as - a wonderful, but entirely "friend-like" - casual interaction until such a time as I decided to be open to getting to know him in another capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 09:49 PM
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So yes, there's heavy, heavy racism among many white South Africans, especially Afrikaners. But even despite that interracial relationships happen all the time. If black dudes can get into relationships with white girls here, one of the most racially divided societies in the world- then black dudes can get into relationships with white girls, period. You should spend a weekend in my town dude. Black dudes are desired. Some of the hottest most sexually successful guys around are black. One of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 09:35 PM
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For the first while, my current SO 'rejected' me. Not because she didn't want me, but because, given her situation, us moving from good friends to sexual partners would have created uncomfortable ripples in our social circles. However, once situations changed, we became rapidly attached and have been engaged in a wonderful interaction ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 09:31 PM
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I live in South Africa. This ingrained racial bias shit is laughably false. This is the perspective of a sheltered, inexperienced man-baby. Even in my country, where, trust me, we have arguably THE most difficult and contentious racial relations in the world, mixed-race relationships are relatively common and happen across looks- and social boundaries. OP I can only assume that you come from a very isolated, hyper-conservative community if you think that only "white trash" will LTR black dudes. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 09:09 PM
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You're right. Penile contact diminishes value. Penises are just like the bubonic plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 08:45 PM
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Insofar as I can recall the founder and main contributor to that sub is quite severely mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:57 AM
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The "logic" is simple basic observation of a world in which most normal people don't find the basic act of finding a sexual partner nearly as seemingly impossible and arduous as the socially maladjusted knuckledraggers of TRP seem to find it. EVERY man I know has no real issue finding sex or relationships, bar one or two outlier cases. Either me and all my friends are in the top 20% of men (which I find unlikely given that I know a lot of dudes I consider more "alpha" than myself and my social c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 09:52 PM
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It's not even close to 70/30 though. It's maybe 60/40, at a stretch, and even that is a dubious figure. Every time I see anyone here insisting on 80/20 I assume that either A) they don't get outside much or B) they're part of the 1% of dudes who can't get laid for love or money (incels) and want to pretend that their problem is more widely spread than it is in order to make themselves feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:30 PM
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If it isn't literally 80/20 and in fact may not even be close to 80/20 why do you still keep using 80/20. TRPs insistence on the whole "80/20" thing just makes y'all look dumb and out of touch with reality given that it isn't even vaguely true. "the most attractive subset of men get exponentially more female attention than the majority of men" is a pretty obvious statement which I don't think would generate much controversy. I get that it's all about "MUH HEURISTIKZ" but your guys (mis)use of he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:59 PM
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I pretty much always go wizard in RPGs. In MOBAs I gravitate towards tank roles though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:54 PM
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I've jerked it to Chelsea Clinton before
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 01:46 PM
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Not everything has a by-the-numbers evopsych explanation. Evolution isn't the grand teleological plan you lot make it out to be, it's a ramshackle jumbled mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 06:46 PM
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Yeah but that's just to drive up traffic to the article. It's not as if they're actively misleading anyone. Not the author's fault if the readership is scientifically illiterate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:18 PM
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are there things that work better than other things? What do you mean by things? Are you talking sexual strategies here? Are they universal? Pretty much nothing is universal, so no. At least apply to the majority? Possibly, but irrelevant. Apply to a subgroup? Ditto. Can you make it up as you go? YES. That is exactly the best approach imo. Look, people are individuals. Individual lives, histories, wants, desires, tastes, etc etc. They may share a lot of their traits in common with others but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:01 PM
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That's your prerogative. Can I ask what your professional/educational background is? I also find it interesting that your immediate assumption is "this person doesn't think science can be applied to certain areas ergo he doesn't understand science". It's more of a case of "this person understands science very well and therefore acknowledges that it is not applicable to certain areas".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:43 PM
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Well, as it happens History of Science was one of my majors sooooooo... -_- Seriously I've been studying epistemology/ontology for years. I don't want to come across as an elitist dick here but there's a very good chance I am MUCH more qualified to talk about science and the scientific method than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:31 PM
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LOL. We're not one homogenous blob you know. I just have a particular personal perspective on the uses and misuses of science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:27 PM
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From now on I am picturing you as Ben Stiller in Along Came Polly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:21 PM
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Meh, me, personally, I'm very skeptical of the applicability of the scientific method to human interactions, especially romantic ones. People are too complex, there are too many variables at play and no possibility for controlled experimentation. My background is also in the humanities, rather than the social sciences, an important distinction which a lot of people here don't seem to adequately understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:21 PM
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You have to teach it as a science to some guys before they can practice it as an art. But perhaps dating/flirtation just isn't a science at all though? Perhaps it is an art? You can teach someone to paint by numbers by filling in little squares on a page with prescribed pigments but don't expect them to do anything world-changing or breathtaking that way. Sex and relationships are, fundamentally, a creative, not a scientific, pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:11 PM
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If this was me? I'd simply pass. I don't need another good story to tell. I think this is one of the biggest differences between the Red and the Blue actually. A lot of Red Pill types seem to be extremely risk-averse
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:08 PM
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Key counterpoints: Social science is not one singular unified field. It is a vast umbrella of interconnected disciplines with as much disagreement as agreement within its ranks. Economics is A) nowhere close to being a "hard" science B) also not a single unified field with a singular dogmatic position. There are plenty of economists who vehemently dispute the benefits of laissez-faire capitalism and unregulated free markets. Even the IMF has recently expressed doubts over the viability of neolib…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:04 PM
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Is a casual link actually being proposed here though? Insofar as I can tell the authors of the study are just detailing a correlation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 01:58 PM
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If there was any more straw in this post it'd be heading off to Emerald City in search of a brain. I don't even know where to begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:32 AM
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Apologies for my assumption. But... speaking as a historian, the idea that we have been living in a patriarchal society for 5000 years, that social conditioning has a way of sticking around and that a few generations of feminism aren't quite enough to level the playing field isn't exactly a controversial opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 03:36 PM
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Why do people on the right struggle so much with accepting peer-reviewed expert opinion when it contradicts their personal beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 02:59 PM
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Love in my view is more involved and complex than simply wanting to make your partner happy. Also I get that atm you feel sexually un-fulfilled but try take a step outside of that and consider what other dimensions there may be to "love". Anyone can get their dick wet, you don't need love to manage that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:22 PM
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Sure, but shallowness is in itself a negative quality. If people express shallow and vapid desires I'm going to judge them by it. Love, in particular, involves a lot more than just sexual gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:21 PM
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As a species we passed judging ourselves and our actions by "biological purpose" a little while back. Seems a weird thing to judge our actions and desires by in the 21st century
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:20 PM
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So basically for you "love" is just having all your sexual wants fulfilled? Like I know that's not all you said but 4/6 lines in that paragraph have to do with attractiveness or sex... pretty shallow m8
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 01:46 PM
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Sorry, but that's just the way it is. It really fucking isn't though? I've never had a relationship in which I have been the sole initiator of sex and if I found myself in such a relationship I'd be pretty damn unhappy. In all of my sexual relationships thus far initiation seems to be a 50/50 deal, which seems to be a much better situation than what you're suggesting. This is why we need feminism folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 01:02 PM
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You mean "don't expect social sympathy from ass-backwards Midwestern hicks who still think it's 1955". Seriously, what kind of man is ok with a woman who NEVER initiates sex and can't make basic decisions for herself? Is that really what you guys want?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:35 PM
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Oh, yeah, we have a great sex life. We fuck like rabbits and she always orgasms. It's just that I always have to initiate it. Well, there is one thing. She always wants my input on things. When she buys clothes, she always wants to know if I like them and think that they're sexy. She hates making decisions for herself, and she's always going out of her way to please me. Everyone would conclude in this scenario that the man is being an utter idiot and that there are no problems in the relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:29 AM
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It's for this reason that I've found the Left in the developing world to be much more smart, savvy and sensible than the Left in (especially) the States.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:13 AM
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I'm dating a feminist right now who does pretty much all of this though. Explain for 20 marks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 11:06 AM
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Intelligence is not simply "a mass acquisition of knowledge" and if you think that it is then you aren't very intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 10:54 AM
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Anecdote/brag time: so I'm an historian. A few weeks ago I was sitting at a bar with my SO and somehow ended up talking about the socio-economic status of settlers in the Cape colony in the early 19th century. Not exactly the most arousing of subjects. Midway through what I was starting to self-conciously perceive as a pretty boring monologue she leaned over the table, grabbed my face and pulled me towards her for a long, passionate kiss. When I asked her what that was about, she responded with …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 10:52 AM
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I wish you luck, dude. Sincerely. I hope that you find avenues of self-improvement that don't involve RP and I hope that you find somebody who makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:59 PM
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Have you tried being less average?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:54 PM
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True. You are The One Good Terp, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:54 PM
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To the Terps moaning on about "but TRP teaches all this anyway!", I read these findings as more of a rebuttal against manosphere assertions such as "the 80/20 rule", "all girls are interested in is Chad", etc. etc. OP do you concur?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:53 PM
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but literally every time anyone on the Blue side says the word "individual" we get drowned out by Terps sneering ""hurr durr special snowflake".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 05:51 PM
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Sounds like a miserable way to live fam.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:54 PM
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Nah, I disagree. It's an indication of weakness and a lack of self-assuredness in the person in question and ought to be stamped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:29 PM
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I can't even get into your guys headspace at all. How do you manage to pursue and maintain relationships if you're so damn paranoid and fearful all the time? I've never even considered the possibility of a partner cheating on me. If it happens it sucks, but why should that be a concern when you're choosing a partner over the thousands of other important factors to take into account?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:28 PM
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If that visceral disgust is irrational though it's the kind of thing one ought to condition oneself not to feel. do you not think?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 03:50 PM
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Again you're twisting words and purposefully misunderstanding. "Women are less likely than men to engage in casual sex" is not in any way equivalent to "only a tiny minority of women engage in casual sex". 80/20 is a laughable bit of pseudoscience easily disproven by walking into any busy bar or nightclub. In any case, even if it were true "Chadsex" is still sex, mate. Just because women may not enjoy sex with you and men like you does not mean that they do not enjoy sex, period. That you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:59 PM
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Nah not necessarily. Cheating isn't inherently irrational. Immoral yes but not irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:44 PM
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Proof? 80/20 rule is not a rule, it's a piece of TRP dogma with no basis whatsoever in the real world. In any case, even if women only want to have sex with "Chads", they still, you know, want to have sex. Again, this is a problem of thirsty dudes, socialisation and the cost-benefit ratio of sex for women. Has nothing to do with women's sex drives. Just because women won't have sex with any sperg who asks does not mean that they do not enjoy sex, a point which should be fairly obvious but clearl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:37 PM
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Like, you're just stating your baseless opinion as fact dude. How do you square this with all of the women out there who enjoy sex and all the men whpo've encountered women who enjoy sex? How do you square this belief with the fact that women have casual sex, for no reward other than the sex act itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:21 PM
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I kind of get what you're trying to say but there is a BIG difference between "women do not like sex" to "women do not like sex quite as much as men do". In any case the problem here seems to be not women's sex drives but rather in most men's sexual abilities. Pick up your game boys! I'm no Chad either but nor do I really struggle to get sex. Idk maybe I've been lucky and I've only had the fortune of encountering high-libido women so far
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:12 PM
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I mean, fair. But the chances are fairly low, especially if your partner uses protection with whoever they cheat with (which would be the sensible thing to do). I'm more concerned with how people seem to consider the possibility of potential cheating to be a major concern when it comes to picking a partner. Like, when I go into a relationship I don't think "I like X person because they don't possess these certain negative qualities", ie "I like this girl because I think she's not very likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:58 PM
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Well, for one, I'm a dude. But it's manifestly obvious that women enjoy sex. If they didn't casual sex wouldn't happen at all. And it's absurd to think that just because you don't enjoy sex with bad lovers that you don't enjoy sex at all. I don't like eating gristly, undercooked, flavourless meat but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy eating at all. Question, DarkLord0ChinChin, are you incel perchance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:54 PM
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why are all you guys so petrified of cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:37 PM
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It's more like saying "I like driving Formula 1, and I can actually handle a car very well; the problem is that 1 in every 3 Formula 1 cars I'm given the opportunity to drive either won't start, goes slower than a crippled autistic tortoise, and has a good chance of spontaneously exploding". You clearly don't understand women and have made never made any attempt to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:36 PM
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FFS this has been gone over like a million times on this sub. Women are less likely to engage in casual sex than men because of societal censure/conditioning ie, slut shaming. Which you lot do a hell of a lot to perpetuate btw Women are less likely to engage in casual sex than men because of the potential dangers/difficulties involved, including pregnancy, STIs, rape, creepy crazy dudes etc. Women are less likely to engage in casual sex than men because a lot of men are really crap at sex and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:28 PM
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Excessive vulnerability/dependence. Passive aggressiveness. Bitchiness. Vapidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:23 PM
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Where does this belief that women don't like sex come from? I see it cropping up on incel forums a ton. It flies in the face of all logic and evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:21 AM
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I don't think Man Up! and Be In Touch With Your Feminine Side are mutually exclusive though. I think in today's post-gender world the ideal is a person (male, female or other) who can incorporate good traits from both genders and minimize bad traits from both as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:17 AM
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Acting out of insecurity, or letting insecurity dictate your thoughts and feelings, is honestly one of the weakest, most pathetic, "beta" things a man can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:09 AM
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Except whenever anyone BP brings up these kind of things every TERP for a thousand miles screeches "REEEE FEELZ BEFORE REELZ REEEE!" , visibly orgasming from their own sense of hyper-rationality. What's good for the goose is good for the gander chum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:08 AM
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I thought TRP was just a form of sexual strategy??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:02 AM
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Blue pill. That's the reddest of red flags. If someone can't manage to form and maintain at least a basic social circle I seriously doubt their ability to form and maintain a healthy romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:30 AM
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Also a green flag in that it would make for a stronger relationship when I'm her main friend and she mostly spends time with me, and she will also be less likely to cheat or trade up hypergamously, simply due to a lack of enticing options. Really? Do you actually think like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:27 AM
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Yes, it is. It's a negative force that erodes one's ability to become a strong, confident, self-reliant individual and indulging in or acting out of insecurity is the height of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:26 AM
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"Visceral" or emotive reactions are not pre-rational though- the reason for them is just not always immediately apparent. All of our gut-reflex, instinctive reactions have some rationale behind them, but that rationale is not necessarily good and needs to be interrogated. Also, how do you explain men who don't have this reaction at all? What is it that makes some men instinctively averse to promiscuous women and others just not give a fuck or even find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:25 AM
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To be fair, I don't think there could be any MGTOW who legitimately loves himself and is happy in his life and feels like a real man either. Chances are this "cuck" is happier in himself than you are m8
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 01:30 PM
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Jesus Christ but this post just reeks of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 09:34 AM
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Maybe you just see it once you tune in to it. or maybe your selective cognitive biases are warping your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:49 AM
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Ja, people keep saying this but honestly I find the total opposite to be true. What Red Pill says about the world is so vastly at odds with what I experience and observe around me that it seems like TRPs are living on a completely different planet most of the time. Perhaps it's just because I move in feminist circles where people are more open and progressively minded about gender norms and sex and things. Then again, we're also a lot happier and seem to have more satisfying sexual and romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can notice a guy escalating past your comfort point in the bedroom - nobody's going to go straight from missionary to cucumbers in your asshole in 5 seconds flat :/ You'd be surprised. EDIT: Why the downvote? Like every female friend I have has an anecdote or two about the weird shit guys try on them with absolutely no warning and that's clearly porn-inspired. Surprise anal, object insertion, facefucking etc. Perhaps the most common (and dangerous) example is the perception c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:03 PM
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Like most people my generation I've been watching porn since I was a teenager and I don't expect real life sexual experiences to reflect it in the same way I don't expect my real life driving experiences to reflect a car chase scene in an action movie. Pretty much everyone understands the difference between fiction and reality. I think pretty much everyone does understand this but remember that when talking TRP we're discussing people who have quite severe difficulties in properly understanding …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:02 PM
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You don't have to be attractive to the majority of women though. Just to enough women. I'm a fairly feminine dude. I know I'm not attractive to the vast majority of women out there, but population size being what it is and niches being what they are I've never really struggled to find sex or relationships. I've been able to pick and choose the women I want. TRP is really bad at understanding niche attractions. They try to play an absolute numbers-and-averages game which has always struck me as e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 11:13 AM
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I see your argument but I'd argue that sex and porn are the same type of thing, with the one being a watered-down unsatisfying version of the other. If you give porn a huge amount of value you're implicitly giving sex a huge amount of value. Tbh my interpretation of the above dude equating sex and porn is of a frustrated guy who can't get laid or who has a bad sex life trying to make himself feel better by pretending sex isn't all that great which we ALL know it. fucking. is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 03:46 PM
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The comment was intended satirically, hence why it was posted under automod. I wouldn't consider myself a hateful person (quite the contrary), however I do have a lot of contempt and distaste for advocates of the Red Pill "philosophy", because I find your way of thinking idiotic, potentially harmful and highly regressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 11:01 AM
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Bra if you really think sex and porn are equivalent, you've been having some truly terrible sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:13 PM
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I've got a dick, babe. Statistically speaking it's most likely larger than yours as well ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:04 PM
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Not trolling, just responding to u/KrispyMcSockingtons' snide "hurr durr y shud we lissen 2 da bl00ps" comment. If he can say such, I'm allowed to respond in kind. Why should ANYONE ever listen to people from TRP? You guys ARE damaged. By definition almost. If you weren't unhappy/poorly-adjusted you wouldn't have been attracted to TRP in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:54 PM
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I kind of get what you're saying. But then by that logic are you saying that danger, adversity, evil etc are good things in themselves, for the good qualities in humanity they're able to evoke?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:47 PM
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Because I am a sane, well-adjusted member of society who is happy and has fulfilling interpersonal relationships? Seriously. You guys are all so damaged and neurotic and you pretend that WE'RE the deluded ones? You need therapy, not TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:46 PM
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That's a good attitude but I feel if one doesn't have positive experiences to chase after than solving the problems is rendered ultimately purposeless. I don't see simply "existing" to be a strong enough motivating factor. Nah, for me the best things in life are A) meaningful and positive human connection, of whatever kind and B) creation/innovation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:17 PM
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LOL, even me I'm a Jew buddy. You know, considering our fucking history I'd think you'd be a little less OK with galloping racism. I have nothing more to say to you and quite frankly I hope you die a wretched, miserable, lonely death. EDIT: WE HAVE A WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY TO OURSELVES THAT ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE OF "AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" DUDE. How thick can you get, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:09 PM
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That's fucking sad. Goddamn plants and rocks and bacteria can "exist" dude, it doesn't take any special skill or talent or provide anyone with any significant meaning. Aim higher ffs you're a human being, act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:00 PM
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LOL. Typical reactionary, "I'm just going to ignore any evidence that disproves my warped worldview" "Reality" is what we make of it mate. Let's say you're correct. Let's say that on average men are smarter than girls and whites are smarter than blacks. What does this mean, realistically? You've already acknowledged that there are high-IQ high-achieving women and POC. How does acknowledging the "reality" of their inferiority change the fact that, actually, women and blacks are actually pretty da…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:59 PM
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Educate yourself on the academic consensus for why IQ tests are bullshit before you attempt to continue this argument kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:46 PM
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Buddy, if you believe in any of TRPs fundamental tenets and still think you "understand" women, you're the one deluding yourself. There is a reason that we LAUGH at you. Your viewpoints and beliefs are ABSURD and invite RIDICULE.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:39 PM
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So what is the best thing in life, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:38 PM
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LOL. IQ stopped being meaningful as a measurement of actual intelligence somewhere in the mid-70s bud. I love how in the face of the manifest reality of millions of highly successful POC and women- neurosurgeons, novelists, astrophysicists, rocket engineers, programmers, film directors, goddamn presidents- you still cling to this belief that they are somehow inherently inferior. what on earth do YOU do with your life, white man, that makes you so special? I know women and POC who have achieved m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:38 PM
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LOL. be Red Pill Understand women Pick one, chum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:05 PM
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In what way is "reality" sexist and racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:00 PM
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I agree except I think we need to go further. Herd all the subscribers of r/theredpill into camps and have them gassed. Only sane solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:38 PM
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so you concede that the Red Pill cannot exist without a strong foundation of toxic misogyny? So much for it just being a self-improvement sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:37 PM
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Sex as a rational function is OK, sex as a beatly instinct is not. You sound like a lot of fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:28 PM
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Do these polls account for age ranges and educational levels? I'm not surprised that older women might be more opposed to porn but I'd be quite surprised if the same was true for younger women. Also women != "feminists". The general female position is not necessarily the general feminist one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:27 PM
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Jesus bro Why not just castrate yourself then if sex is such an abominable evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 03:25 PM
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I think there is definitely a danger of this happening. But I think the risk is comparable to the risk of developing a drug addiction. A lot if not most drug users can use substances like LSD, MDMA etc on a fairly regular basis but not have it ruin their life. And a lot of guys can watch porn regularly without dehumanizing the women they encounter. But there will always be those prone to addiction and there will always be those prone to dehumanization I think, and drugs/porn bring out the worst …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:26 PM
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I don't know about that. I'm in a very sexually satisfying relationship but me and my SO are busy people and we can't be together every night. So on evenings when I'm not with her I'll sometimes watch porn if I'm horny and need the release.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:22 PM
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Idk bro. I move in some very feminist circles and all the hyper-feminist women I know love porn and see it as empowering. I wish TRP would realize that "feminism" does not mean the same thing now as it did in the 70s...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:18 PM
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Why and how?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:07 PM
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LOL really? That's sad dude. Porn and sex are as different as night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:04 PM
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wow. You sound bitter af dude. oh wait, I forgot which sub this was...
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 04:02 PM
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K but don't you think it's a bit unreasonable to go see a children's movie in cinema and not expect to deal with children??
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 03:43 PM
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So I'm here from r/thebluepill and I'm probably going to regret opening this can of worms but: can any of you guys explain why you enjoy this story so much? All I see is some guy being a smug, annoying asshole for literally no reason. Why is this kind of petty spitefulness something you guys see as positive? Genuinely want to understand.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 02:16 PM
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Eh, ymmv I guess. Honestly I don't even see the "sorority babes" as sexual beings, they just look so... flat to me. I don't think everyone is as "enslaved to their biology" as TRP claims; I think TRP is maybe just more appealing to people who are already such and they think that their experience is representative. EDIT: Also note I'm not talking about looks not mattering- physical attractiveness is still very important - just that what's "hot" is not uniform. I don't find bleached blonde duckfac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 05:34 PM
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I'm not so sure about that. I mean I'm only speaking from personal experience here but as a guy pretty deep in "alternative" circles, basic looking girls really don't register on my radar, no matter how "objectively" attractive they might be. And my male friends are more or less the same. I think "status" plays a much bigger role in women's attractiveness than RP would believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 11:55 AM
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Don't care. Kids can have double-barrel names.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:01 PM
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you're a very strange individual. I'd hazard to guess that the majority of humans find conversation and socialization enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:54 PM
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I DJ techno music under the name "Hauswyfe".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:41 PM
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Because Trump is, not to put too fine a point on it, a moron. Like seriously. Listen to the things that come out of the man's mouth. It's not that he's evil or reactionary or quasi-fascist, it's that he's just. freaking. dumb. And by extension I just have to assume that if you support him you're equally idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:28 PM
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but that takes all the fun out of conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 10:10 AM
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Once you decide to stop caring about the only thing women have to trade in a relationship: sex, there's really no point. Fortunately for civilization, sane, well-adjusted men are capable of recognizing that women bring much more to a relationship than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:19 AM
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Wasn't intended as an attack, I genuinely do feel quite sorry for you. And I say "kid" because you may be a software engineer but your posts over the last few months demonstrate a significant degree of social and emotional immaturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:31 AM
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There's nothing about roleplay and sub/dom stuff in there? Also, from the article you just posted A recent study found that over two million gay American men had not had any sex in the last five years. Of which some are almost certainly "gay incels" . Kid, you really, really need to get off Reddit and go make some more irl friends or something. Like I find your posts funny as hell but this total lack of self-awareness and understanding of the world is also kind of sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:51 AM
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All gay men can have sex, there are no gay incels. Stop thinking they exist. Bullshit. You clearly know absolutely nothing about the homosexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:44 AM
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what? Where are you getting your understanding of gay sexuality from?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:42 AM
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The takeaway from this is that social intelligence and "covert methods of communication" (which are utilized by both men and women) are kind of essential when it comes to navigating sexual and romantic interaction. I understand that for a lot of aneurotypical dudes that sucks and it's difficult but that's how it is. I have severe difficulties doing basic arithmetic thanks to dyscalculia but that doesn't mean I don't have to do my taxes, you know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:38 AM
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People will say: well obviously go for it if she's telegraphing that she's interested! Well shit, some men aren't very good at telling body language or signals apart - just ask r/friendzone. Perhaps instead of "women want men to self-reject" it's more a case of "women want men to get better at correctly interpreting the situation?" .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:25 AM
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even the most bone headed attractive guys (Apollo is a creator/ruler) have a thirst for knowledge and research LOL what? In what world?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:22 AM
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They're three variants on the same basic douchebag. The life cycle goes incel - > twerp - > mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 07:35 AM
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LOL. And most normal dudes don't gravitate towards the Red Pill either. All socially awkward, maladjusted man-children who never learned how to handle rejection or set boundaries and would rather indulge in harebrained conspiracy theories than take responsibility for their own psycho-social problems. What's your point? Men on PPD are no more representative of "the norm" (whatever the fuck that is) than women on PPD are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 10:07 PM
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Cute. Didn't think you frequented other subs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:11 PM
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20 cm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:10 PM
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hey aren't you that weird guy who's always trying to push his little cult over on r/incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:54 PM
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But this is how terps think. If your own personal experience contradicts their's you're either an outlier or you're lying. Impossible to win with these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:27 PM
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"science" - rolls eyes -
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 04:44 PM
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and the rest of us- men and women- decided we were sick of just settling and wanted the option to be with a partner we actually want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 02:25 PM
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No. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:58 AM
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Well, having your teeth knocked out, skull shattered or bones broken isn't going to possibly leave you pregnant and/or with a potentially terminal STD, or with crippling psychological trauma that could leave you incapable of managing future romantic or sexual interaction. Alongside dozens of other differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 11:57 AM
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Are you in commited relationship/fwb arrangement, series of ons, on a dry spell/a virgin/etc.? In a committed relationship of +- 6 months (depending on when you take the start date to be). Are you dating up/down? Honestly, I think I'm dating up. She's definitely out of my league in terms of looks (I'm a 6 on a good day whereas she's easily an 8-9). She also comes from a much wealthier family than I do and has a lot more social capital. On the other hand I am a few years older than her and alread…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:18 AM
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Warped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 12:08 PM
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I'm sorry to say this, but it's not that difficult to see the type of men who are more prone to assault women, and those are the very types women keep going for. Bullshit. Abusers come in all shapes and sizes. I know abusive men who are surgeons, literary critics, journalists, men who come across as soft and gentle and charming and "beta" right up until the moment that they're not. This idea that all abusers can be detected from a mile away is nonsense and just another way in which the manospher…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 12:04 PM
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Just remember that although TRP claims to be some kind of mouthpiece for all men everywhere, they really, really aren't. TRP men aren't representative of men in general; they're a small, socially maladjusted subculture with a massive chip on their collective shoulder. Normal, sane, happy, healthy men, who are arguably in the majority, do not gravitate towards RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 11:56 AM
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A lot of Red Pill's issues with women seem to come down to the fact that so many guys are embarrassingly thirsty. Why this is women's fault somehow I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:17 AM
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It's a good book
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:15 AM
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I'm pretty sure I've seen you refer to yourself as "genetic trash" on this sub before though...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:14 AM
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No, because evopsych is a highly flawed school of research. It's less "science" and more "unfalsifiable and untestable guesswork".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:41 AM
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Tinder is not the be-all and end-all of the dating world All we're doing here is shouting dogma at each other. You're going "LOOKS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT!" with no real basis to believe such other than your own observations which are necessarily incomplete and tinged with confirmation bias. I'm going "SOCIAL SKILLS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOOKS!" and ditto. Pointless conversation, like every other one on this sub. Honestly everyone who posts here should just be exterminated in an atomic war. Irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 07:39 AM
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I keep having to double-check to make sure OP isn't that Oilpainter777 kid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:47 PM
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But I can't delude myself so...I don't have a choice. The irony being that judging by your posts you are one of the most-flat out delusional individuals on this sub. And that's saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 04:43 PM
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LOL. Do you want me to post a picture of me mid-hot-dicking with a placard saying "look u/DynamicLoser I am having teh secks now!" Just gonna have to take me on my word bud. Looks matter but they're nowhere near as important as you lot make them out to be. Good social skills, wit, a good personality etc go a lot further. As for fucking overweight or obese girls, I've had sex with three girls that might be considered a little chubby but definitely no obese ones. And those three are the exception …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 02:46 PM
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having good social skills without alpha looks doesn't get men laid. I have good social skills I don't by any means have alpha good looks I get laid a LOT. Social skills are way, way more important than looks dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:39 PM
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please tell me you reported him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:27 AM
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do you have a selective reading problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:27 AM
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isn't your entire philosophy based on sweeping generalizations tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:20 AM
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Cool story bro
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:21 PM
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Errrm. Isn't individualism itself an apex form of "special snowflake" thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 03:31 PM
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Firstly, do you have a source for that? Secondly, do you think the difference is great enough to be of any real significance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:30 AM
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How many guys is "lots" of guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:13 AM
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Like I'm not going to challenge your view cause it's probably true. But most people - men and women- have lots of casual sex in their college and early adult years. Is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:44 AM
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attractive WOMEN don't like feminine men plenty of attractive women LOVE feminine men fam. Trust
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:57 PM
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asking the real questions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:12 PM
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you don't even need "masculine" figures, just good strong-willed role models. That can be a burly lumberjack of a dad or a spunky non-nonsense lesbian aunty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:11 PM
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and MGTOW aren't accusing women of being "shitty and not good"? Those accusations seem to make up 90% of MGTOW forums
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:54 PM
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I mean, I see what you're trying to do but given that you and me aren't in an intimate relationship I'm not quite sure these points apply very well to this particular interaction. Context is kind of important, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure that porn is porn for women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:38 AM
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so what, the whole thing should be worded in gender-neutral pronouns? I admire your commitment to de-gendering language in the name of equity but that's a little arcane of a request don't you think? In any case, you could very easily have two versions of this poster with two different pronoun sets and the basic message would still be fine. Do you deny that all of the examples raised on this poster constitute abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 11:14 AM
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how do you square this belief with the existence of vast numbers of highly successful women in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:44 AM
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Umm, it's really, really not obvious to me how this can be construed as sexist in any way. Please "mansplain" this to me brother. I am very confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:26 AM
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So what choice do these men have? The easy way, continue your lonely life, play videogames, jerk off to porn and get laid by visiting pros. Or the hard way, go out of your way to build a social circle (which btw is like super hard), maybe find a girl to LTR, and possibly risk bitchiness, nagging and emotional abuse. Eventually get married, and become dependent on your wife for all your social needs. Most likely divorce, and end up just as alone, but feeling much shittier and depressed. Idk this …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:44 AM
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if women do the same thing, then yes, they are also being abusive and that is not a good thing. How is sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:36 AM
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how the fuck is this sexist? None of the things on that chart are ok. None of them are things you should be doing to your partner- regardless of gender. If you think someone telling you to not be abusive is sexist you have a very toxic understanding of gender relations mate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:35 AM
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Depends on the partner I think. My SO loves it when I tell her about random girls hitting on me because it makes her feel powerful- as in "all these bitches want him but he's all mine, mwuhahaha". Different strokes for different folks. I think actively trying to use that to make your partner insecure is scummy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 06:31 AM
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is this a Redpiller admitting that human beings are individuals with individual preferences and desires? Wonders truly never cease
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 07:47 AM
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i have never slept with a chubby girl. I have slept with attractive girls but it was more a miracle of nature than out of my own doing as it was a matter of hanging out with them and suddenly the girl got horny and I was around and trustworthy. What are you complaining about then boo? Sounds like you're doing pretty well for yourself there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:34 PM
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Back alley violent stranger rapes almost never happen Must be nice living in America or whatever fancy first world country you're based in. For most of the developing world (ie most of the world) back alley violent stranger rapes are distressingly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 02:06 PM
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Do you people really still live in a world where men are expected to pay for dates? I haven't had to do so ever. At least, not with people I've just started seeing. Usual rule is split bills on the first couple of dates. I might take a gf out and treat her to a nice dinner or something later on when the relationship's more established but that's just because it's fun to spoil people, and I know she's going to do the same or similar for me at some point. Honestly reading PPD it feels like half of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:28 PM
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OK... again, I see your argumentation but again I disagree on some basic fundamental points. Because a social construct is dominant does not make it any less of a social construct. And observing monogamy in animals has nothing to do with the "natural" or "unnatural" nature of monogamy, because honestly what's natural for animals has nothing to do with what's natural for humans. Do you take non-monogamous societies to be completely and utterly "unnatural", then? Even if in those societies those a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:04 AM
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I think we're talking past each other here. You seem to be under the impression that "natural" simply means "most commonplace" or "most widely spread". Which is not what I understand the word to mean. Simply because a social construct is very widely disseminated and accepted does not make it any less of a social construct. Money, for instance, is most definitely not a feature of the "natural" world and yet is utilized by just about every single extant human society. I don't think the claim that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:32 PM
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Do you talk to many women IRL? every female friend I have has similar anecdotes about creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 03:09 PM
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You make some fair points but why do you consider non-monogamous systems to be social constructs while monogamous ones are not? Simply because a particular way of organizing family and relationships is more common does not make it any more innate or natural- it simply means that the environmental and social conditions that gave rise to those kinds of patterns are more common. Monogamy, in particular, seems to have emerged as a consequence of settled agricultural society and the development of pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 02:47 PM
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These are not primitive 'tribals', they are settled people and their polygamy is influenced by culture. Well, yes. exactly. Sexual relationships are determined by culture and environment. That is my point. If mongamy were a biological feature as opposed to a cultural one this would not be the case. You can't make an argument against biological monogamy by using them as an example. 99% of cultures and societies observed are monogamous. Actually, you can. If you're claiming something as an innate …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:52 PM
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The rule I stated holds true for an overwhelming majority of people and cultures. Probably more than 99% of all people everywhere. Absent a better explanation, such a rule is good enough for hard sciences, like physics, and certainly good for softer sciences, like biology, or the even softer sociology. The several contradictions that you found do not undermine the rule. I don't think you understand how either biology or social constructivism works. If you're claiming that there is an innate, bio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:44 PM
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How do you define "honour"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:27 PM
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I'm not saying that they were egalitarian paradises, simply that non-monogamous societies exist in many places and have done for a long time. You are making the claim that somehow monogamy is physically innate to human beings. Were this the case these non-monogamous societies simply would not exist. Why do you consider the first link "full of ideology"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 01:11 PM
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Brief overview of sexual mores in pre-contact Polynesia Brief list of various forms of non-monogamous societies around the world It doesn't matter whether such cultures are an exception or not. If you're making the claim that human beings have some kind of innate, biologically-based imperative towards monogamy then the simple existence of these cultures undermines that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:46 PM
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Amazing book.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:39 PM
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Depends on how you define mayonnaise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:34 PM
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How do you explain decidedly non-monogamous societies then, such as could (and to a certain extent still can) be found in Polynesia and the Pacific?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:33 PM
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How do you define what "natural" is? Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:10 PM
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She needs to invest her body in him. But she can't do that because she's already given it to so many other men. How does this make any sense? Please explain
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 11:10 AM
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I'm really confused as to why you feel that unrealistic body standards placed on men are feminism's fault. Personally, I've experienced the greatest degree of body acceptance and praise for my unusual body from feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 10:25 AM
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It's not a paradox so much as a situation requiring varying degrees of fine-tuned compromise. But yeah, I agree the USA post-911 is pretty fucked up on that account.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:55 PM
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bush doofs ain't nothing like a sweet stomp in the wilderness
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:00 PM
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Not everyone wants a corporate job.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 04:46 PM
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Casual homophobia, classy. Personally, I have no interest in what you may or may not mean. Good evening to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:33 PM
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What is the point of making arguments to someone who seriously believes that Western Christendom was "chivalric"? The whole notion of the "chivalric" west is an innacurate and anachronistic Romantic invention with very little bearing on historical reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:24 PM
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If I lock you in an room and feed you three times a day, you're definitely secure, but you're not free. Yes, security necessarily entails some restrictions on liberty, the goal of a progressive society is to find ways and means of maximizing both liberty and security simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:22 PM
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Nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:16 PM
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"Chivalric Christian West?" Where do you get your history from, A Knight's Tale?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:15 PM
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My 2 cents: people who really enjoy sex tend to be better at sex. People who really enjoy sex also tend to seek out a lot of it. So its not necessarily the experience itself that makes her better at sex, the fact that she's sexually experienced is a consequence of her being sexually enthusiastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:01 PM
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Look, spare me the reply. As you wish babes xxx
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:16 PM
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See, I think the mistake you make is assuming that women only look for qualities outside of physical appearance when considering LTRs, which insofar as I see things isn't true. Even in casual hookups things like personality, interests, intelligence, personal compatibility, etc etc play a role. If this wasn't the case there'd be no point to "game" and none of us would ever have to, or be able to, seduce women with words and actions. And again, even giving paramountcy to physical appearance- women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:10 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's as simple as you make it out to be. There are extremely attractive people. There are extremely unattractive people. But the middle ground in between- once you pass "threshold attractiveness" the field opens up and then it becomes about women's personal preferences and your own swag and game rather than your position on a 1-10 scale. I'd say any guy who's, say, "5" and up can get any girl between "4" and "8" if he knows what he's doing. Also, do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:57 PM
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because that claim is not absurd? Why do you presume women are not sexually attracted to the men that they marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:53 PM
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Why should BP have to provide evidence when you are the one making an absurd claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:33 PM
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I agree but I don't see the point in stubbornly pigeonholing these traits as somehow intrinsically tied to "men" and "women" when, as you say, the best of people exhibit both. Wrt biology I''d say the simple fact that these traits are seen exhibited in both men and women is an indicator that they're acculturated rather than bio-determined.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:32 PM
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But it's less of an up-down scale and more of a horizontal network insofar as I see it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 06:29 PM
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Please cite yours? Honestly this back and forth is cringe-inducing to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:46 PM
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80/20 is one of the most perplexing parts of terp arcana for me for sure. It doesn't square up with my own experiences and what I've observed of the hookup culture around me whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:07 PM
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The problem I see there is that it's nowhere near close enough to be universal to be useful. The range of what is considered attractive is just too broad and varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:53 PM
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Those are, as you say, assumed rules though. What are the grounds for those assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:45 PM
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these just seem like generally good qualities for human beings to have, not qualities that are specifically good for men to have
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:41 PM
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but in that case is inceldom a cause or an effect? or a bit of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:58 PM
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Someone's an Ayn Rand fan I suspect EDIT: Also, isn't downvoting against the rules of the sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:40 PM
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I agree with DarkLord0chinChin for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:43 PM
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It's interesting that you consider the "lefty" culture all about the "me me me" game when one of the major points that differentiates the left from the right is its focus on social and communitarian values.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:43 PM
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Women don't have to suffer. You do know that not having sex is not the only cause of suffering in this world, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:40 PM
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Do you think that inceldom is a sole or even significant driver of male suicides though?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:39 PM
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If women were slut shamed less; more incels would get action. How does this make any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:38 PM
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Why can't incels be taught to have sex with women? why is the onus on women to fix your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:38 PM
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I think it's also important to note that the most sustained and thoughtful critiques of the problematic strands of feminism are emerging from feminists themselves, not from the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:37 PM
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That's an interesting observation but I wonder whether that problem may have been specific to a certain generation. In today's world information technology has become a vastly more social experience (through the rise of social media and multiplayer gaming, specifically) so I wonder whether, if indeed there is a causal link between poor social development and technological entertainment, that link will still hold true for later generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:35 PM
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Sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:27 AM
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She spends her most attractive years fucking the most attractive men she can get. She does so mostly for fun and validation ... but most men do exactly the same? For exactly the same reasons? Or they aspire to, anyway. with the outside hope that maybe one of these hot guys will get mesmerized by her magic pussy and wife her up. But a lot of women, if not most women, have no interest in getting married and serious committed relationships when they're young. Neither do a lot of if not most men. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:15 PM
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I think pedestalizing women and promoting women's rights over or at the expense of men's are slightly different things. Out of interest, what do you consider a law that benefits women over men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 03:53 PM
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out of interest what movie was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 03:07 PM
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Sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 02:11 PM
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Either/or. If y'all were really so concerned with defining yourselves as existing without women you wouldn't spend so much time talking about them, one would think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 02:00 PM
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Idk bro, as others have mentioned in this thread the MGTOW community spends a lot of time bitching about women. I presume you identify as one going by your responses in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:57 PM
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She's not that old and not that fat? Spend some time browsing more amateur porn and you'll see lots of average looking dudes banging average looking girls. You'll even see some average looking dudes banging some hot girls. Your confirmation bias is making you focus on examples that support your beliefs and ignore those that don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:54 PM
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so why do you need to spend so much time bitching about (your lack of) pussy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:51 PM
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Are you blaming feminism for the fact that a lot of men are really into sports and would rather watch a football game than a shuttle launch?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:50 PM
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Except that TRP/manosphere types consider their views to be "objective" when they very clearly are highly subjective. That's half of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:45 PM
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I hate to break it to you but if you're incel/mgtow you aren't by any means "ordinary" (in the sense of being "normal").
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:40 PM
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Where to start? She's brilliant- honestly one of the smartest people I have ever met. She's eloquent, well-read and quick-witted and gives me a serious run for my money in our debates. She's also funny as hell, and very spontaneous and playful. We share a lot of common hobbies and interests and conversation with her is always interesting- we never really run out of things to talk about. In terms of political/social values we see eye to eye, as well. She's very loving, affectionate and supportive…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:38 PM
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Neoliberal capitalism and the concomitant atomization of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:28 PM
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well, yes, one does have personal feelings for one's friends. "Personal" is not synonymous with "romantic". And beta orbiters are not friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 01:26 PM
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Are you counting pornstars you've jacked off to? cause I don't think that's quite fair
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 12:07 PM
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is your dick like, diseased or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:56 AM
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Your intelligence, wit and charm is nature. I can maybe buy "intelligence" to an extent (though its often hard to see the boundary between innate intelligence and acculturated intelligence (education) ), but why do you think "charm" and "wit" are innate and not learned characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:51 AM
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dass some mighty fine straw you got there buddy. Is it harvest time out on the ranch or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:47 AM
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Just need to jump in and say that "women don't deserve pedestalization" is a very feminist idea, hardly something the Red Pill has a monopoly on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:43 AM
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Fair enough I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 11:04 AM
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how do you interpret it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:55 AM
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OK but are we talking about female friends here? How do women mates lead to financial loss? how does a woman's "hypergamy" (lol) affect you if you aren't dating or fucking her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:06 AM
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Do you seriously not understand the concept of learning and developing through experience? Honestly, more and more evidence that a significant majority of the people who identify as Red Pill have some very serious psychological issues
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:29 AM
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that seems like a massively broad and unverifiable generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:22 AM
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The moment you bring in personal feelings with a woman who is not your mother, sister, and daughter, she will use them against you. "Use them against you" how?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:18 AM
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... but like, why is the hookup/dating culture "shitty"? I do not understand
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 06:33 AM
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Except you guys speak in absolutes, where as we speak in conditionals. If you're going to be speaking in such black and white terms, you really ought to be able to back those assertions up with something a little meatier than "yeah, well, it's just, like, my opinion, man"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:17 PM
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How can you state that with such certainty? Perhaps they actually enjoy all of the many, many perks that come with a committed long term-relationship? Perhaps they met someone who is absolutely perfect for them, fell deeply in love and truly don't want anyone else? I know tons of very "high value" men who are perfectly happy and content with their partners and don't feel the need, or see the value, in sleeping around just for the sake of it. I wish TRP would drop this pretence that they are some…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:06 PM
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To the TERPs jumping on OP's point about representation: in a healthy, functioning democracy, different interest groups are ideally represented proportionally so that their interests are promoted by someone with the same set of interests. Women, as the largest under-represented "interest group", should ideally be receiving this kind of representation, so that issues that effect women can be adequately addressed by people who are women. This is basic political common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:00 PM
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but like... that's most men in their early 20s too man?
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 01:54 PM
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so wait, you don't like therapy because therapists tell you to treat women like people? Jesus Christ dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 11:53 AM
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Bruh I'm going to blow your mind here. There are attractive, successful, charismatic men ("alphas" or "Chads") who actually want to get into serious relationships, because - imagine this - there is more to a good relationship than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 11:34 AM
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So a woman who is, say, the CEO of a major company, a doctor, an engineer, etc. etc. doesn't add any additional value to her society?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 11:26 AM
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how does that account for the simple fact that women accomplish things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:34 AM
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in case you hadn't noticed, human beings are quite markedly different animal to lions or chimpanzees. One of the effects of consciousness is a dramatic increase in individual variability
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 06:16 AM
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Better in what way and for whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 08:06 PM
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for Christ's sake, why should we give a fuck about what's "natural?" Dying in your early 40s of curable diseases is "natural". Getting eaten by wolves is "natural". Living in a dark spider-infested cave is "natural". Conversely, modern healthcare and sanitation, electricity, the internet and so on and so forth ad nauseum are all entirely and most decidedly unnatural. Just because something is "natural" (and I'm dubious that this revulsion towards promiscuity is natural in the first place, do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:22 PM
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It both amuses and depresses me how Red Pill men, who place so much emphasis on "mastery" and "frame", will so gleefully let themselves be enslaved by base biological impulses a few million years out of date. To summarize: you have no rational justification why you, a 21st century male, are disgusted by "sluts". Am I to take it from now on that none of your views on gender have any rational basis whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 05:23 PM
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Very irrational. I'd say a better analogy would be the actions of a compulsive germaphobe (excessive handwashing and so on). Like it's rooted in something sure but it's still neurotic behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:27 PM
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why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 04:01 PM
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I teach a course on it as it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 03:20 PM
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that's waaaay too old to be chasing high school girls bruh. Yes. Emotional connection. Sharing of thoughts, worldviews and experiences. Stimulating conversation. Healthy, fulfilling relationships. You are aware that these things exist and are highly desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:24 PM
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Because due to a lack of life experience they're mentally and emotionally immature and in the majority of cases can't provide you with a truly satisfying sexual or emotional connection. How old are you, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:11 PM
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Well it worked on a 19 year old woman? Also, unless you're like 17-20 yourself you ideally shouldn't be trying to hook up with teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:57 AM
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I don't actually think debate is possible with Redpillers to be perfectly honest. Most of them are way too far down the rabbit hole, defend their (dubious) beliefs with dogmatic fervour, and dismiss any and all counter-evidence as either irrelevant outliers or outright lies. How can you "debate" with people like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:33 AM
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promiscuous, commitment-free sex with all manner of different partners and? So fucking what? It's only spineless, insecure "betas" (like, I'm guessing, yourself) who give a damn about this you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:21 AM
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well some (by no means all) women sleep around a lot in their 20s, it's true. But so do a lot of men. Having casual sex in your 20s is, like, a pretty normal thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:19 AM
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Just when I thought PPD couldn't get any weirder, a line like this one pops up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:17 AM
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by being interesting, charming and intelligent. By having good "game", I suppose. I should also add that in 4 out of those 5 cases the women approached me, not the other way round. You really overestimate how important looks are. Which doesn't mean that they aren't important at all, just that they're one factor out of many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 10:03 AM
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as in how hot were they? Subjective but I'd say the last 5 women I've slept with were between 7-9, if you believe in that kind of thing. My current SO (also the person with whom I'm having the best sex of my life) is the single most attractive woman I have seen in real life but I may be a tad biased there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:55 AM
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As a not-alpha male myself I can tell you that that is categorically not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:39 AM
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Why are drug dealers always considered to being not nice? Right? Some of the nicest people I know are drug dealers. TRP is exceptionally narrow-minded, not just in terms of how they view gender relations but in just about all things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:37 AM
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As long as I orgasm the sex is good enough So you have no interest in having good sex? you just want to cum and be done with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:34 AM
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good lord you set the bar low
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:22 AM
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One of the basic problems with TRP I think is that it tries to generalize "women as a group". In a "group" of 3+ billion individuals the degree of individual variance is just too high to actually make such generalizations supportable or useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 09:05 AM
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And of course if something analogous to the Stepford robots happen, there will be no man on Earth who would prefer a real woman to such a "perfect" being that never disagrees or causes problems. Ummm What about men who actually, you know, like women? And want a companion who is interesting and loving and challenging and who they can approach as an equal? Your Stepford utopia sounds like hell to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 07:34 PM
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Steve Jobs was pretty good looking though? Idk why you lumped him in with Gates
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:07 PM
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my mistake, the full comment thread didn't display correctly on my phone for some reason. Either way you still lack basic reading comprehension skills though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 04:59 PM
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sorry, responded to the wrong comment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:55 PM
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'LOL, so the only women that TRP doesn't apply to are "ugly and manly?" how did you reach this conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 01:53 PM
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what? but 6 inches is over 15 cm. About average. Slightly above average for the USA which is where you are I presume?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:35 AM
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you really are obsessed with physical appearance, aren't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:18 AM
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so you have absolutely no interest in your partner's happiness?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:14 AM
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One must often pretend to ignorance here at PPD to make the harlots and thieves condemn themselves with their own tongues. Dude are you like... amish or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:09 AM
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... what? I don't follow m8. Care to rephrase your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:57 AM
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You've encapsulated exactly what I dislike most about TRP. Zero nuance. No understanding of subtleties. Just massive sweeping generalizations that are barely tethered to reality, and massive hamstering/outright denial every time you contradict or call them out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:40 AM
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You know who's been combating the idea that women ought to be put on pedestals and treated like super special fragile princesses for waaaay longer than TRP has? Feminists, that's who
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:33 AM
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extreme standards hot girls Bruh do you REALLY not see what a horrid little hypocrite you are being? Good grief. Self-awareness much?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:24 AM
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the difference is that poverty constrains your life in everything from education to physical security to healthcare to the ability to freaking feed yourself. You are not going to die from not getting your dick wet. You are not oppressed. That you even think so is just an indication of how narcissistic and sheltered you must be. Spend some time in a slum or a developing world country and then come back here and see if you still feel oppressed because the pretty girls don't want to touch your pee-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:21 AM
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women would never give an intelligent man such an opportunity. Yeah so I'm going to brag a bit here. I'm smart af bro. Going to a prestigious university, on scholarships the entire way through, doing MA now, was on honour roll/Deans list the entire way through my university career. High school I was even smarter, if that can be believed. And guess what? I still go to parties and I still get with beautiful women at those parties. Girls aren't not going for you because you're smart, they're not go…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 07:17 AM
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ooooh boy we got an edgelord here fellas
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:17 AM
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... did you just compare the way some Red Pillers struggle to relate to women with drone strikes in Afghanistan? Like I get what you're trying to say but jesus man. Have some sense of perspective. Getting rejected by a girl or cheated on by your wife is NOT equivalent to having your limb blown off in an explosion or losing family members to air raids
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:34 AM
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maybe not. Honestly, TRP confuses the hell out of me. Like I'm genuinely puzzled by the existence of them. Their vision of reality seems completely skewed, it has almost no relation to mine at all- like we're living on different planets. I can't really imagine how fucked in the head someone has to be to think like this. Also there's, you know, all the vitriol and hate and misogyny. The promotion of actions and ideologies that are at best totally amoral and at worst actively immoral. That's kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:01 PM
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I attempt to but the frustration builds quickly. It's exceptionally difficult to have a good-faith discussion with a bunch of cult members who stubbornly dismiss any and every piece of information that goes against their preconceived ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:53 PM
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I honestly do not believe good faith discussion is actually possible on this sub. It's just a place for people to shout at each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:48 PM
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LOL. Did you really go through the trouble of saving that? In any case, I still maintain that all of y'all are fucking rapey.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:42 PM
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That's a dumb question. 1 singular trait does not attraction make. If you like boobs and you met a girl with absolutely fantastic knockers but a face like Freddy Krueger and huge swollen drumstick thighs would you find her sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:36 PM
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the same thing they say about terpers and reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:34 PM
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LOL. And you know this how? Anyway, if 80/20 is true I should be struggling to get sex at all, "buddy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 07:09 PM
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or maybe, just maybe, the Red Pill is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:32 PM
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MURICA
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:19 PM
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Well, most women and men in America at least. I don't notice a lot of overweight people around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 06:01 PM
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You wouldn't. It just occurred to me now that when I say "average" you may have interpreted "fat" because of the obesity problem in the USA. Which is not something I had considered before because obesity isn't much of an issue in my context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:46 PM
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Not by applying the Red Pill to anything, that's for sure. Honestly I think engaging with feminism (by which I mean actual, careful study of feminist theory, not tumblr feminism or TRP strawmanning) has probably helped my "game" more than anything else. But that's a discussion for another thread maybe EDIT:I mean I have a huge dick as well. Perhaps that helps. (sorry, couldn't resist)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:41 PM
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yeah, I don't know why you just assume that the difference made by men who have 100+ partners would be necessarily larger. As you say we need some actual statistics and not just thumb-sucked bias-confirming assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:38 PM
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can you read? I'm not talking about fat women. (I realize that the "average" woman in America is overweight but that's not the case where I live).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:06 PM
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I'm 5.6 inches, weigh just under 110 pounds. I'm not at all physically fit, and I'm certainly not an above-average income earner (struggling academic). My face is ok. I dress well. I can be charming when I want to be but a lot of the time I'm socially awkward as all hell. Yet I haven't really struggled to get sex in a long time and regularly get with women I consider to be 7-9/10. Do you really think I'm in the "top 20%" of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:02 PM
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Did you consider it's also skewed by men with very low numbers of partners, such as religious people who only ever sleep with their partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 04:58 PM
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Agree wholeheartedly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 12:35 PM
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Idk bro, I'm a dude and I've always been of the opinion that all of my fellow humans are due my respect until they actively lose it somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 08:13 AM
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Nope, with normal, average to attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 05:55 AM
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How is it useful? To my mind these stereotypes just seem to obscure more than they illuminate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 03:12 PM
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But I did explain though? These things people pigeonhole as "masculine" and "feminine" traits are by and large just personality quirks, more or less evenly distributed across the population. Sure, some might be more present or more muted in one gender than the other but that's down to socialization more than anything else. The point being that all humans, regardless of their genitalia, have the capacity to be aggressive, or empathetic, or manipulative, or logical. By pigeonholing these traits in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 02:08 PM
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what is bound? Physical attraction is a bare requirement, and often not even a totally necessary one. An unattractive guy with stellar social skills is going to have no trouble getting laid, a super attractive dude who's completely creepy and socially off is going to struggle. I know a large number of guys who are plain-looking or even ugly but don't struggle at all with women because they're friendly, witty, interesting and good conversationalists. And I've lost count of the number of times I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 01:57 PM
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I've never encountered any dude outside of Reddit who honestly struggles to get pussy. If you're at least average looking and have some basic social skills and some things going for you you can have sex. Getting laid is easy in modern society man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:34 PM
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Like... obviously? getting laid is THE test of good social skills brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:32 PM
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Except it's true dude. Normal people in the normal world, unlike the neckbeards of the manosphere, really don't struggle overmuch to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:28 PM
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Honestly I don't know how people in 2016 still believe in "masculine" and "feminine" traits. They're just "traits", people. All of the examples you listed above can be found as easily in both men and women. And intersex people for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:25 PM
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Perhaps if they stopped throwing around terms like "slut", "riding the cock carousel" or "post-wall hags" they might sound a little less hateful. Just a thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:23 PM
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why? what evidence do you have to suggest that it isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 06:24 PM
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like, do you understand morality as a concept, dude? Do you have any ethical considerations in your life at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 04:08 PM
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like TRP is, you mean? people in glass houses...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 09:23 AM
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You need to watch less porn friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 10:43 PM
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most women are pretty stupid, none of them are that special, and besides the occasional fuck, none of them are really that fun or interesting. Do you genuinely believe this? Do you have no female friends? or female colleagues or family members that you get along with?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:35 PM
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Intelligent people who realize that gender norms are unnecessarily constricting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:31 PM
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Sorry, but there is zero "nuance" to red pill thinking. You can't adhere to ridiculous concepts like "AWALT" and still claim to be q nuanced thinker
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:32 PM
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That's actually a pretty interesting and I'd say accurate analysis. I should say though that although I'm living in Africa my community is entirely culturally Western
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:19 PM
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nuance rp Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 05:06 PM
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But those qualities can very easily coexist in the same person. "Alpha" and "beta" by this logic are more of a spectrum than discrete categories
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:54 PM
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People also co-operate to gain resources. Conflict is no more inherent to the human condition than co-operation is. And food and sex are certainly not "evil" just because they can potentially provoke conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:30 PM
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by that logic most men are alpha then, since just about every man is able to provoke desire in some women. Your classification system is so vague and flexible it's basically meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:28 PM
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what, am I an alpha male then? TIL I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:26 PM
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You're just proving u/noxin_nixon 's point- that TRP just retroactively reclassifies any "beta" who gets laid as "alpha" or "having alpha qualities"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:20 AM
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OK... if that were true though, then why am I encountering feminist women who vehemently refuse to let men pay for their dates and find the offer to do so rather condescending? Obviously everyone's experiences are different, I'm just saying my experiences are quite radically at odds with the RP narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:36 AM
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Probably. The more I read PPD the more I realize that parts of America, in particular, seem shockingly old-fashioned when it comes to gender relations (and this is coming from someone in Africa).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:22 AM
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OK, that may be your experience but it definitely isn't mine. Perhaps gasp! all women everywhere are not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:21 AM
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That's... weird. I seriously don't know any women like that. All the dates I've been on it's been implicitly understood that we're going to split the bill, unless one of us specifically offers to pay (and I've had women buy me dinner as often as I've bought them dinner). I think a lot of this is really only true of traditional, conservative women who are a bit more... backwards in their thinking. Which is ironic given how TRP likes to demonize modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:03 AM
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I love how of all the many, many threats to contemporary civilisation - ecological collapse, economic instability, religious fundamentalism, war, escalating economic inequalities, resource depletion, racial tensions, geopolitical instability, war - you guys think "dudes not getting their dicks wet" is the number one problem. Do you not see how narrowminded, sollipsistic and flat-out stupid that is? Read a book ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 07:53 AM
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The people who are so scornful of trigger warnings have very obviously never experienced intense PTSD and associated triggers thereof, or ever known anyone who has. Basic lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 07:38 AM
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I know plenty of women who are comfortable making the first move. And I don't know any (modern, educated) women who seriously still expect men to pay for the first date. That's a very outdated, old-fashioned notion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 07:17 AM
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RPers have a problem with feminine men because women have a problem with feminine men by not dating and sleeping with them. Nonsense. Plenty of feminine men out there get laid. I should know, I am one
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 02:30 PM
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Seriously bro? You may as well say "food is evil". If sex is so evil why not just chemically castrate yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 12:01 PM
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The main difference is Seddit isn't batshit crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:03 AM
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If your friends are going to mock or shame you for your partner choice then they're shit friends though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:01 AM
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Cool. GJ then
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:39 PM
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Sure but I fail to see how not having to FUCKING GET MARRIED just to have sex is a bad thing for any dudes, anywhere. And before you cry "but what about TEH INCELS", we all know those bros wouldn't be getting laid pre-sexual revolution either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:28 PM
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Woman's sexual revolution is the single worst thing to happen to men as a group since World War II. Are you being serious? Sexual revolution is what lets me get my dick wet without having to get married first. I don't understand how this is a losing situation for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:13 PM
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Did you be sure to count "slut" and "cock carousel" as well? Because I swear to god those seem to show up in every. single. post on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:09 PM
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Twit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 09:54 PM
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Citation needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 05:46 PM
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So what, women who are in love with men are lying? or deluded?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 01:14 PM
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we have a whole sub dedicated to making fun of the stupid illogical codswallop spewing out of TRP dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:58 AM
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Advertising is also immoral though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:56 AM
1

So you don't believe women to be capable of romantic love? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:48 AM
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Can you have the two together? Perhaps, but I think it's difficult. The two tend to bash into each other. Could you expand on this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/16 07:47 AM
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Don't hurt me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 03:17 PM
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oh jesus, you again. There's more to attracting women than sheer physical appearance, you horrible little toad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 02:29 PM
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The smartest men will always tend towards red Hahahahaha hahahaha hahahah ha... Oh, you were serious? Redpillers are some of the most straight-up unintelligent motherfuckers I have ever encountered online.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 01:44 PM
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Good point, I concur.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 01:29 PM
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If you aren't capable of pursuing sexual/romantic interactions then I'd say you aren't socially well adjusted though, no matter how fine you might be in other fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 01:08 PM
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-sigh- you do not understand me. Red Pill isn't just making claims about the people on the subreddit, they are making claims about all people , everywhere. And they have no fucking right to. The "radical powertalk" is wrong. Like factually inaccurate. I get that Red Pill "heuristics" are framed in such a way to catch attention but that doesn't make them any less fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 12:45 PM
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because they aren't just making claims for "the audience", they're making claims for everybody. Red Pill can't distinguish between, say, "a lot of the women I have encountered have had certain similarities" and "ALL WOMEN EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT TIME ARE EXACTLY THE SAME". The lack of nuance is lank irritating and, frankly, makes TRPs look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 12:37 PM
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so why claim that they are universal/general trends? RPers seem to really, really struggle to grasp the idea that what is true for them is not true for everyone or even for most people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 12:16 PM
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socially well adjusted red pill Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/16 10:11 AM
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He's right though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:58 PM
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Don't cut yourself on all that edge kid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:38 PM
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Y'all need therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:15 PM
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Hopefully she doesn't laugh during sex. This is a sad sentence. Mid-sex giggle fits are the best
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 07:44 AM
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my word, is this a Terp arguing for nurture over nature? wonders never cease
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:00 PM
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There's plenty of grass boo. Trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:36 PM
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I grew up with the "women are wonderful" affect in play and actually believed women were morally superior to men and that they ALSO somehow knew naturally about "relationships" stuff. I'm curious, is this a common perception? Because I only ever hear of this idea from TRP types. Like, people are complaining about being fed this massive lie about how women are morally superior and intuitively good at relationships and so on but shucks, no one bothered to tell me that lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:34 PM
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If you establish a dichotomy between men and women and then only focus on AWALT (which is pretty negative), people are going to establish the standard male characteristics in contrast to that. Many people seem confused re: what AMALT is -- they think it's the opposite of AWALT, a set of positive traits, rather than predatory sexuality etc This makes a lot of sense. It's also why "AWALT" as a concept is misogynistic, no matter how TRP tries to hamster that away
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 07:32 PM
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That is the most tragic misreading of American Beauty I have ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 10:45 AM
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You're ridiculous. How do you get through life with that level og paranoia?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 01:25 PM
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OK, but what if she's slept with 50 guys, has just been tested and is clean of all STDs? Would you still not hit it? Does her "count" still mean anything to you in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 10:04 AM
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Bro. You are not understanding me here. You have yet to actually explain rationally why sleeping with a "slut" is such a bad thing. Why "going where other men have gone before" actually matters. Can you do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:26 AM
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I didn't? Perhaps they got removed. I stand by what I said though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:08 AM
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Good lord. are you seriously concerned with catching some rare std that no one has ever heard of before? That's paranoid to such an absurd extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:07 AM
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If you're treating basic human interactions like a goddamn stock portfolio, you probably have some mental health issues
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:05 AM
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Sorry :/ I shouldn't go on ppd when drunk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:21 PM
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You aren't explaining anything. Why does her being a "hoe" matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 05:22 PM
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You are saying "men are different" I am saying "I, as a man, feel we are more the same than different". I want you to realize that you are not speaking for "men". You are only speaking for yourself and for men like you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 05:20 PM
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Oh don't worry, you don't need to be white to be trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 04:21 PM
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If your partner doesn't have any STDs then whats the problem? I really, really don't understand your point of view. This is as weird to me as young earth creationism or flat earthism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:43 PM
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Interesting to hear a female perspective. I'll be honest, I just do not understand why people care about their partners sexual histories. It's as meaningless to me as whether they played piano as a kid or whether they have a weirdly shaped mole on their foot: something I might notice or comment on, but not meaningful in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 02:51 PM
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Bra. She's a person, not a film franchise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 11:32 AM
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That "visceral repulsion" seems to stem from sexual insecurity. Insecurity is a highly unatttactive trait. CMV: the only men who have a problem with a woman's n-count are low value men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:41 AM
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If you're using statistical analysis to try and work out basic human interactions you already have some serious mental health issues I think
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:38 AM
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I'm a man and everything she's saying makes way more sense to me than all the weird drivel you guys are spouting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:36 AM
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Honestly, I think the vast majority of TRP respondants here are just VERY sexually and romantically inexperienced and don't know what they're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:34 AM
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Why though. Like can you actually explain why marrying "the neighbourhood ho" is a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:33 AM
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You can have casual sex and still respect and care about the woman you're sleeping with, you know. Not an either-or proposition. And no one likes to be treated like some indistinguishable disposable fuckpuppet, even if they are only looking for a ONS or whatever. Well, almost no one. Not ruling out certain kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 03:42 PM
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That's probably true. But indulging in and acting out of insecurity is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 03:39 PM
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Partly due to me wanting to be the best she ever had (I'm more likely to be the best if she hasn't been boned by a tonne of dudes) LOL, at least one of you has the balls to admit his insecurity. Guarantee THIS is the major reason why all these terp types feel so threatened by promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 03:05 PM
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Even before she accumulated the notches. She was lost already. She already had terrible self image, she already had no boundaries in put in place around her by stable adults (particularly men), she was already in a terrible state of mind that would have made her a terrible, terrible wife. Even as a virgin. How do you get from "has a lot of partners" to all of this? Maybe she just, like, enjoys sex? Just because your behaviour stemmed from poor self-image etc does not mean that this is true for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 02:57 PM
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1) women are naive enough to think men are romantically/sexually approached at the same rate women are so they believe it's normal for us to be pursued as well. Idk how true this is anymore. Especially with young, modern women. The last... 5? girls I hooked up with, as well as my current SO, all made the first move/pursued me. And I'm no Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 09:27 AM
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Yeah, that's fair I think. I'm opposed to systematization and generalization on philosophical grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:38 PM
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Don't bother. These guys are absolutely CONVINCED that the West is a barren, sexless wasteland and only, like, 5 dudes in the world ever have sex (all of them called Chad, weirdly enough). It's basically an article of faith for these guys, you'd have more luck arguing with a 6-Day creationist about carbon dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:35 PM
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Oh dear. Low level troll comment. Expected better redd ;) Patriarchy is a term used to identify a structural/ideological feature of our society, not an organized Illuminati-style group of men sitting cackling around a table. One of the things that makes the thing so devilishly hard to combat. As for people self-identifying with it, well, we have the entirety of TRP which seems pretty dead set on maintaining patriarchal norms, much as they refuse to use the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:25 PM
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OK. I still think it should be possible to construct a tight prenup with the aid of a good lawyer though? Similarly, maintaining a decent record of your purchases should be enough to protect your stuff. And in instances where both parties do purchase something together, be it a house or a car or stocks and investments, its only fair that they be divided in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:09 PM
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Interesting, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:06 PM
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... it's not a legit point? The point is that assuming arbitrary qualities based on sex organs is sexism- against men and against women. It's an attempt to cram people into neat little preconceived boxes in complete disregard of the context, strengths and weaknesses of the individual in question. What that comment shows isn't an example of how feminism is unfairly prejudiced against men, it is in fact an example of how patriarchy is damaging to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 03:04 PM
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K, cool, but how does that have any bearing on the day to day life of a 21st century man? The conditions under which we exist have changed, we need to adapt to those changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:58 PM
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I'm interested because I don't know a whole lot about this stuff, how do courts define "marital assets"? And why do pre-nups get thrown out of court- doesn't that defeat their purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:56 PM
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Fair enough, but you can have children outside of traditional marriage, and you can also build a lasting legacy for yourself without having children. It's not like the nuclear family is our only possible option as far as stabilizing forces go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:54 PM
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She was the unapologetic geek I dreamed up the steampunk internet with, as we figured out how pop-ad blockers killed the passenger pigeon. Damn, that's brilliant. Had a good chuckle reading this, sounds like a damn fine relationship. I hope that with the passage of time you can still look back on the good memories with a smile and that they don't sting too bad man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:49 PM
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This is the best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:46 PM
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Maybe this deserves a thread of its own but couldn't all this "divorce rape" stuff be avoided by A) having a spouse who also has a job and can provide adequately for herself and B) having a decent pre-nup?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:45 PM
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No wonder women control the majority of wealth in this country. ... is there a source for that? Very curious claim
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:44 PM
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Maybe it's an age gap thing but I really scratch my head at this whole notion that men ought to be "providers" for their women in this day and age. I can't imagine being in a marriage or LTR where both partners aren't working and financially independent of one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:42 PM
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Nature's fine, I love hiking, taking long drives out of town, things like that. I live in a beautiful country, we have gorgeous natural vistas around every corner. I do a lot of festivals and outdoor parties as well which usually take place in some pristine natural setting. Got some solitary pursuits, though they're not particularly masculine or strenuous. As for "pursuits with other men?" Sometimes I go and do things with my male friends, sometimes I go and do things with my female friends, mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:12 PM
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The point is that it's stupid to assume that people must necessarily be assumed to be inherently good or bad at something on the basis of something as arbitrary as the shape of their genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:09 PM
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Buddy As long as there are still out-and-out misogynists like you, who genuinely (and erroneously) believe that men are superior to women, there will be a need for feminism. The irony is rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:59 AM
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The funny thing is that most of those men's issues stem from patriarchy, not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:57 AM
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Osha is the hottest woman on GoT by a looooong way in my books.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:12 AM
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Most of them, to be honest. Conventional Hollywood looks leave me pretty cold. And personality (or at least, however much of someone's personality you can glean through the media they're in/produce) plays a big role in sexual attraction for me, so I tend to lust after musicians or artists rather than actresses. For reference I think the sexiest woman alive is Grimes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:09 AM
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LOL, dope. Thanks for that, made me chuckle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:04 AM
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-sigh- Right, so let's just list a handful of factors that lead to civilizational collapse: -Environmental degradation -Resource over-exploitation -Overextension of bureaucratic networks -Overpopulation -Economic recession -Saturation of local markets -Class instabilities -War Do you really think "dudes not getting their dicks wet" is more important in the grand scheme of things than any of the above? We live in a world where the majority of the Earth's populace still struggles to simply eat. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 10:53 AM
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Bruh, I really don't have the time or inclination to poke holes in your conspiracy theory, because arguing with whackjobs is inevitably a waste of energy. Out of curiosity, though, would you mind furnishing me with a reading list? I want to know from whence you've drawn your conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:52 AM
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You realize that a good relationship is a reciprocal thing, right? The woman has to put up with the man's "BS" just as much. That's the whole damn point- mutual emotional support. Also, it's perfectly damn possible to have casual sex/ONS's without being an 8/10. I'm 5' 6 and weigh 105 lb. My face is ok, not beautiful by any means but not ugly either. And I have, not to put it too crassly, made more than a few notches on the old bedpost. Serious question, Onclejulian: Are you yourself incel? Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:15 AM
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Bro, do you realize how ridiculous you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 08:05 AM
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Right? Arguing with terpers is exasperating as hell but at least it's an ego boost. Never thought I was "Chad" before but apparently I am
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:58 AM
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Bruh, women (not "females" ffs) give GREAT advice on getting some. You just need to actually listen and apply
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:28 AM
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traditional marriage (the most civilizing force in human history), Lol wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:20 AM
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Speaking as someone with actual post-graduate degrees in human history with a specific focus on the current decline of the West and modern world crisis: Y'all need to actually educate yourselves and not get all of your information off the internet. Also, a bunch of dudes not getting their dicks wet is NOT the most or even AN important factor in the rise and fall of civilization. Jesus. -shakes head in despair-
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 08:17 PM
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but you realize that women can learn these skills too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:30 PM
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How can someone's subjective taste be "just wrong"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:28 PM
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Sure buddy. I still suspect you're between 15-17 judging by the way you write but keep on living out this fantasy that you're some rugged manly man, I won't get in your way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:20 PM
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You know, I've seen your name about PPD a lot and of all the people who identify as Red Pill you're one of the only ones I have much respect or time for. You seem like a good bloke. Keep doing you man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:10 PM
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... yes? Are you just trolling now kid? I get outside plenty. I just don't find outdoorsy hobbies (hunting and fishing and whatnot) very interesting. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 05:07 PM
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I agree that self-reliance and being able to handle oneself in an emergency are good qualities to have but I don't think they're especially masculine, they're just general good traits for anyone if you have the time and inclination for that kind of thing. It's funny that you mention the Boy Scouts because my SO was a Scout for years and she's crazy good at survivalist stuff- tracking, firebuilding, first aid, all that sort of thing. Good person to have around in a disaster. I agree that our mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 04:48 PM
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Even though we can get in the car and drive to the grocery to get a steak, doesn't mean that will always be the case. Having the skills to survive without modern conveniences may be pointless most of the time, but when you find yourself in a situation where you need them, not having them can mean life or death. I mean yeah, but if you're living your life and defining your masculinity as "I can totally survive in the event of a zombie apocalypse" that seems a bit... daft? In any case, that statem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 04:30 PM
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Stare at screens all day?? LOL, you realize the irony of making a comment like this on reddit? Anyway, my day is a combination of staring at screens and hunting through stacks and stacks of dusty papers (historical research). You realize that the majority of middle class Westerners are white-collar intellectual workers right? You can't have an economy built on fat office workers but nor can you have an advanced civilization built on hunters and fishermen. We all have our place in this great teem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 04:22 PM
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LOL. Fishing? Hunting? What is this, the 19th century? As for fixing cars, that's what mechanics are for. What do you mean by "build things?" like put up shelves? Not exactly rocket science. EDIT: Also, what's a "SIMP"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 03:36 PM
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So my parents divorced when I was 2. Dad cheated on my mom, she filed for divorce and he went back to his home country. I had and still do have very little contact with him, see him maybe once a year if that, and we don't have the best of relationships. I was raised in a house full of women - mother, grandmother, aunt, aunt's partner- and had pretty much no male influence in my life up until my mother met her current boyfriend when I was 16. I'm a very feminine guy in a lot of ways and by RP sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/16 12:07 PM
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If I loved the person and we got along well, yeah sure, why not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 03:46 PM
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Good reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:56 AM
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It's not frowned upon for men to pursue women. It's just that specific modes and methods of pursuing women are no longer kosher in modern society. Not everybody else's fault if a bunch of dudes didn't get the memo, refuse to adapt and still get all their moves from shitty rom-coms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:52 AM
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LOL. In your world maybe. Still, TIL I'm at least an 8. Who knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:39 PM
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I'm curious, are you implying that only 8s and up receive love and attention from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:17 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 11:52 AM
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They might have sex with him, but they're not attracted to him - "lie back and think of England". See this is another fallacy I see cropping up a lot in these debates- that physical attraction necessarily correlates with sexual enjoyment. Just because you find someone aesthetically appealing is no guarantee that you'll actually be sexually compatible, and the reverse is also often true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 11:23 AM
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I'm going to save this comment and respond with it every time you say anything from now on Pem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 11:19 AM
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So a guy with no masculine qualities might get 1 or 2 women, but he will never be widely found attractive or have several beautiful women to sleep with. Except there are lots of guys out there who aren't conventionally attractive and exhibit few masculine qualities but still sleep with lots of beautiful women. They may be exceptions to a general state of affairs but when you're talking about billions of people those are a LOT of exceptions your theories need to account for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 11:19 AM
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I don't think you understand what "universal" means. Also AS A GENERAL RULE, the first guy has a better life in every way than the second two guys. You can't really support this statement. There's a lot more to happiness than just getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 11:17 AM
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I kind of see your point but you realize that A LOT of men get this idea and hit on unattractive women because they think they're "easy", and as a result unattractive women become quite accustomed to this and develop a very jaded attitude towards the men who hit on them? They know what you're doing bro. The game is quite transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:13 AM
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every person on this world finds David Beckham to be hot. What evidence do you have for this assertion? How do you know that David Beckham would still get laid with hot chicks even if he wasn't rich or famous ? Similarly, how do you know that no one thinks Manson looks hot. They would fuck him because he's rich and famous. Trust, spend any amount of time in a goth/metal scene and you'll see plenty of Manson lookalikes who aren't even close to rich and famous and can still get their dicks wet. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:11 AM
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Like you guys literally believe if you repeat the same lie often enough, it becomes the truth. You realize that is exactly what TRP looks like from over here, right? The same ridiculous lies repeated over and over again
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 06:39 AM
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Seriously? OK, let's look at some men widely considered to be attractive Channing Tatum James Franco David Beckham Johnny Depp David Bowie and some women widely considered to be attractive: Keira Knightley Ruby Rose Beyonce Knowles Ronda Rousey Miley Cyrus Now, looking at all of these individuals do you really, truly believe that there is only one kind of "sexy" that works for every single person and that the defining feature of "sexy" is simply femininity for men, masculinity for women? Trust m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 07:45 PM
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Femininity for women, masculinity for men. And women who find feminine men attractive? And men who find masculine women attractive? And androgynous types who are attractive to both? First you'll have to prove that people who find Manson sexy do not find Beckham sexy. Which is rather hard to believe. Well, hard to prove and I'm not about to go start a survey just on your behalf. But even if they do, that still means your point is null and void. The two individuals look nothing alike and yet both …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:17 PM
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... if that were the case, how do you account for the dizzying array of different kinds of sexy that exist in the world? Some people find David Beckham sexy, other people find Marilyn Manson sexy. Do you really think that they are the "same" kind of sexy? If your theory were true then EVERYONE would only be fucking people who look alike and everyone else would be left by the wayside, which is manifestly not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:57 PM
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Cool story bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:24 PM
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So, in essence, you have no interest in being a morally good person? You don't want to behave in an ethical fashion?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 01:58 PM
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Yes, yes, but -Morpheus voice- what if I told you that it's possible to have an acceptable sex life as a hetero male AND go about that sex life in a morally acceptable way, as well? It's not an either/or proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 01:23 PM
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A stereotypical nerd, has no muscle tone, poor style/fashion, is quite anti-social, isn't energetic around people etc. The nerds who do get laid are not the average nerds. Muscle tone and fashion/style aren't the big dealbreakers here, nor is introversion, necessarily. The main issue is the "anti-social" bit. Flirting and finding relationships is pretty much by definition a social activity. Someone who struggles socially or who finds it difficult to relate to other people is naturally going to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 01:06 PM
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LOL what? How can you support a theory like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 12:47 PM
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Sounds abusive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:33 AM
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modifying one's behavior to get better results in the mating game ("game") are manipulative, bad, immoral, and not kosher. Modifying behaviour/having game is not itself bad or immoral. The particular kinds of "game" advocated by TRP are immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:31 AM
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He's not required to provide her a running commentary on his feelings or to advise her of her precise status at any given time. Well, he may not be required but most normal sane people expect a degree of communication in a healthy relationship you know. Openness is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:28 AM
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Is the hotness of the woman the only thing you care about? Aren't you interested in going after people you actually, you know, like, as opposed to just arbitrarily choosing partners on the basis of their appearance/their "smv"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:27 AM
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So you had one shitty relationship and you now treat all relationships and all potential relationships as shitty? Seems pretty myopic to me dude. Still, I can't blame you I guess. Cycle of abuse and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:24 AM
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Even in the bedroom, this is a race! First to the finish line wins I hope this is satire (hard to tell with you lot) because otherwise I feel seriously sorry for the women you're sleeping with...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 08:46 AM
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How is what I write nonsense, exactly? You are the one making nonsensical claims. Also I don't know about the "average man" but no men I know have any issues having female friends. The only people I ever hear whine about that are you TRP lot, and to be honest it seems like most of you just have awful interpersonal skills in general. I had a good laugh at "postmodern hypergami harems" though, cheers m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:26 PM
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RP works on ALL women. LOL, I'd love to see you try to TRP my female friends. You'd be laughed out of town bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:44 AM
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Am feminist man Only date feminist women Never felt like my sexuality was viewed in anything but a positive light. Sexual objectification is NOT a necessary and inevitable part of male sexuality. It is possible as a man to still be a healthy sexual being and not be an objectifying creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:07 AM
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The average man tries in some degree to be noble, the average woman exclusively cares for herself Nonsense. This is why man-woman friendships do not work well for men. Also men tend to have a wider range of interests and skills than women And again, nonsense. I'm a man, most of my best friends are women, they're incredibly supportive and caring. And all the women I know have a wide range of skills, hobbies and interests. Hell, most of them have more skills, hobbies and interests than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 09:09 AM
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Perhaps not. I'll concede I don't have any evidence there aside from the experience of myself and my friends. But I was more interested in getting back to your statement you KNOW, or at least you should know, that most men don't have multiple women wanting them sexually. Because I don't know this, honestly, and I don't see how you can either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:50 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was you I had an argument with a while ago where you were adamant that love didn't exist? Perhaps I'm getting my twerps confused. If so I apologize. EDIT: Back on point though, have you seriously never been in a position where two or more women were into you at the same time? That's something that most men have experienced at some point, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:34 PM
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If men really did have that many options, they --would never marry --would have a lot more casual sex Firstly, people marry for a lot of reasons, one of the biggest of which is love. I know you don't believe it exists, but guess what, most normal, non-embittered people do. People actually do have the capacity to form deeply meaningful connections with other people and marriage is one of the ways in which that connection is strengthened and acknowledged. Secondly, a lot of guys are having a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:29 PM
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yall act like you're morally superior to RPers Because we are morally superior to RPers. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:25 PM
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My goodness, is that a terp I see accusing others of having no empathy? Fucking hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:24 PM
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Why are you so certain of that? How do you know they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 02:14 PM
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You're.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 11:00 AM
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All those scenarios except the first and the fifth constitute a violation of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:59 AM
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As an educated middle class intellectual I endorse this sentiment 100%. People need to realize that there's a lot more to intelligence than a university degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:54 AM
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most (not all) of the time nethier party is better off leaving their spouse in the long run. Specially the children.. There are plenty of cases where divorce is the best possible option for all parties, ESPECIALLY the children. Abusive spouses are a particular case in point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:53 AM
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You want to believe so bad that TRP is just some lounge full of loser guys sitting around bullshitting themselves and each other But that's exactly what TRP is. Seriously, you guys are every bit as sad and laughable as the incel community. And I'm guessing every bit as sexless 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:44 AM
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Give em a break, most were raised by single moms.. Being a man is new to them LOL. I was raised by a single mom and by most yardsticks I'm fairly confident that I'm more of a man than you'll ever be, kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:42 AM
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and men don't have the option of multiple women expressing sexual interest in them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:41 AM
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many guys are often told to just treat their lady like a queen who can do no wrong, don't argue, don't stand for yourself, and just do whatever you can to make her happy. Who tells you this? Who believes this? Me I'm a straight dude and I've never encountered any of this sort of stuff. And treating women as a queen who can do no wrong is obviously a dumb thing to do and, in its own way, every bit as objectifying as treating a woman like a fleshlight. The trick is to treat women like people. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 10:39 AM
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Not too sure. First proper conversation I can remember having with her was at a festival, we talked about Terry Pratchett books while she painted my face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 08:33 AM
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And every man does not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 06:30 PM
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When you see girls of any age use tears to get their way, how do you ignore it as not being manipulative? Tears one moment, smiles the next, it's completely controlled. But mate I've seen little boys do exactly the same thing? This is an honest question, I'm not being snarky: Are you, as I know a lot of the incel/TRP community is, somewhere on the autism spectrum?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 06:27 PM
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To say they are as likely to not control their emotions doesn't make sense. Why? It takes a woman significantly more training and effort to be able to control her emotions and be in the military. Got a source on that? Do you disagree that it is less natural and easy for women to be soldiers than men? Well, women are physically weaker on average so I suppose that makes soldiering a bit more difficult, but otherwise I don't imagine so. They learn to act like men, and military women feel a lot more…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 06:10 PM
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Right, reply take two: For your information, I am a heterosexual, cisgender man. I honestly don't know how you can believe that every woman on earth is some kind of manipulative sociopath. And if that is what you believe, I don't know how you can find it "beautiful". You sound a little sick in the head. Either that or an edgelord teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:43 PM
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Sorry, if you're going to toss around phrases like that I'm going to find it (even more) difficult to take you seriously. Let me look at your comment again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:41 PM
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don't bother adhering to strict logic to begin with. What that I have said do you find illogical? These are entirely two different situations. How can you possibly conflate the two? Completely illogical. What two different situations are illogical? There's accounts of irrationality and drama in relationships started by men spewed forth on the Red Pill sub all the time. Though usually the men in question are typically too dense to see that they're the cause. Most men do not cause drama in relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:40 PM
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How the fuck would an army run if this is true? I don't know bro, why don't you go ask the IDF, the YPJ or any of the many, many countries in the world which have women serving in their armed forces? Not being able to control your emotions most of the time is childish regardless of gender. There is a big difference, however, between "having emotions" and "not being able to control your emotions"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:31 PM
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Except Reddit doesn't explicitly espouse the spreading of child pornography as part of its core mission statement like TRP does so your analogy doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:28 PM
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"The meek" LOL, 15 year old neckbeard confirmed. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:27 PM
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Why do you assume I'm a woman? Also, to claim that every woman on Earth, even little girls, is an emotional and psychological abuser is misguided and paranoid in the extreme. Guns are evil because they were invented with the sole purpose of killing. If you believe that the taking of life is evil, then yes, guns are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:57 PM
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Again, nonsense. Men are every bit as likely to be irrational, unreasonable and petty. Also, being sensitive and having emotions is not being "pathetic". It is being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:50 PM
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There is not one woman that exists that mostly thinks with logic over feelings Prove it. EDIT: Also, please. Men don't behave irrationally? Men don't cause shitstorms of drama? Absolute nonsense. If you want to see an example of men thinking entirely irrationally and causing unnecessary drama all over the place just hop on over to TRP, there are plenty cases over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:47 PM
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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were done here? ;) Go on about your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:24 PM
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You should care because you ARE a man and you don't want to be shitty in bed? Like, I know this is a radical idea guys but self-awareness and self-knowledge is pretty damn helpful when it comes to "sexual strategy"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:04 PM
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You might want to ask why its so important to you to deny your own capacity for neurosis, and why you refuse to countenance the idea that a little honest self-reflection might help your game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:02 PM
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My own personality foibles, whatever they might be, have little to do with learning about what women are like, the nature of women, how they react and what they respond to, and applying it to my interactions with them. But understanding your own personality foibles will help you understand yourself better and, therefore, enable you to have better and more effective interactions with others. Surely you can understand this? How can you expect to relate to others if you cannot even relate to yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:45 PM
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But, at the risk of sounding a bit new-agey, how can you expect to be able to deal with others if you are incapable of dealing with yourself? And if you're adhering to a worldview that frames your own problems as external to you- as things that women experience, not you- then you aren't going to be able to do that very well. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:23 PM
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The fact that you may be every bit as insecure, narcissistic, damaged, demanding, manipulative and shallow as women are but refuse to acknowledge it to yourself is irrelevant to your sexual strategy? OK bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:21 PM
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And whether men can be crazy, demanding, bitchy or unreasonable (IOW, acting like women) See, there you go again. You assume that these behaviours are in some way intrinisically female when the they're present in both genders. See the problem? To answer your question: Acknowledging these kinds of shortcomings is not a problem specific to women is relevant to having better intergender relationships because you need to be cognizant of the fact that YOU YOURSELF, as a man, are as prone to the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:05 PM
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can't blame the information presented in the 'sphere for individual men's bad behavior any more than you can blame a gun for killing someone. It's not "information", though. It's ideology, interpretation, and opinion. CMV: TRP provides an ideological framework that justifies and promotes emotional and psychological abuse and is therefore evil. Incidentally, I do consider guns to be evil creations, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:01 PM
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Fair enough I guess. Still, the way TRP describes women as being inherently and inevitably insecure, damaged, narcissistic etc. while refusing to acknowledge that these same qualities apply to men, even if only by omission, comes across as very dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:54 PM
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Except the way TRP phrases things makes it seem as if women and only women have these traits. I don't think I've ever seen anything coming out of TRP that acknowledges that men can also be crazy, bitchy, demanding, unreasonable etc. TRP positions these as gender-specific problems when they are in fact universal human problems and should be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:45 PM
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TRP tactics also will also massively hurt and eventually destroy a good woman if the man was lucky enough or happened to start out in a relationship with her first. This, in a nutshell, is why I am so vehemently opposed to TRP and why I think it is at a fundamental level quite evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:43 PM
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You can just replace "women" with "people" in this comment and it will be true, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:35 PM
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what about the girls you know? Are they getting laid with more frequency?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:26 AM
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Well, I also only have personal experience and anecdata to draw on. But the situation you describe is very at odds with the situations I experience. I don't know anyone who really struggles to find sex when they want it. The men and women I know seem to have sex in roughly equal proportion, as well, ie the women I know aren't having boatloads more sex than the men I know, which surely would be the case if 80/20 held true? Furthermore, in my experience the quality of sex in committed relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 08:26 PM
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K, so leaving relationships aside do you think that only 20% of men are able to hook up/have casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:42 PM
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Where do these rough metrics come from though? Like at least your and u/sardonis70 's explanations of this whole 80/20 thing are a little more nuanced but I still don't see the situation being nearly as dire as you guys paint it to be. Also, at one point you say: 50% of men get a little bit of sex every now and then, a rare ONS, some relationship sex. When you say "some relationship sex"... are you insinuating that men in relationships aren't getting as much sex as they want? or that relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:53 PM
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Can someone please explain where this whole 80/20 thing comes from? Out of all the many, many weird truisms espoused by TRP this is the one I find I'm most skeptical of and that is most far removed from my own experience and those around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:01 PM
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This is just an intuitive thing but I think if you're feeling guilt about it possibly being cheating it probably is cheating, whether it "technically" qualifies as such or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:47 PM
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Wow. That's depressing. I'm sorry you think that way, truly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 01:21 PM
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1 and 2 are devastatingly attractive, 3 I wouldn't even spare a second glance. Different strokes for different folks. Another thing TRP struggles to incorporate into its ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:28 PM
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You know some fakeass goth girls then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:27 PM
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I don't think TRPers are alpha males. If they were "natural" alphas they wouldn't need TRP. With that caveat, I would say women who respond to TRP would definitely be major outliers in my social/cultural context. Not sure whether they are outliers more generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:22 PM
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I don't know, in my experience a lot of people- men and women- tend to underrate, not overrate themselves. I was actually having this conversation with my SO this morning. I rate myself as a 5 (6 on a good day), her as a 9; but I found out to my surprise that she considers herself a 6, and me a 7. A lot of people have a lot of insecurities and honestly have no clue just how attractive they appear to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:18 PM
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It is pretty much a request to acknowledge feelings, and not to solve the problem. In what world are your partners feelings a "problem to be solved"? Why does TRP have such a problem with feelings and emotions? They are a necessary and vital part of life, for men as well as for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:00 PM
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Maybe not "most" but at least 50%, easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 01:54 PM
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The assumption in your analogy is that you're "starving" ie absolutely desperate for sex. Most men aren't so desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 04:57 PM
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And therein lies its beauty
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 01:30 PM
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Correlation and causation are not the same thing, and the factors influencing the success of one civilization over another are bewilderingly complex and are not easily reduced to such simple terms. Which should be fairly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 02:36 PM
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LOL, what does that have to do with anything? The successes of Western civilization have very little to do with the way in which we organize and understand sex and intimacy dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 10:28 AM
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Sex is not something that men want and women have. Both sexes need and enjoy sex. Sex is an activity that two people do together, not a commodity that is traded from one to the other (except in the case of sex workers, obviously, but that's not really relevant).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 07:27 AM
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Idk bro I'm an INTP and my experience has been pretty much identical to OP's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 07:25 AM
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Here. Read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 10:22 PM
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If you're going to limit your scope of inquiry to only things that can be detected by scientific instruments then I'm afraid you aren't going to be left with very much to talk about friend. Which, on reflection, is probably all for the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 10:04 PM
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You're the one that wants me to prove your own special snowflake view. I'm sorry, what? You were the one who made a truth claim to start with. I simply asked you for evidence to back up your claim. Do you not know how basic argumentation works? A CMV would be pointless because this sub is top--heavy with TRP types who are, again, not representative of the entire male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 09:02 PM
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You sound like a really loving and caring dad /s In any case, you still haven't answered my original question. You claimed that The MEAN of men don't have an interest in sluts or single mothers. And when I asked you for evidence of this claim all you did was spout your own opinion at me. You realize that you are not a chosen representative of all men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:53 PM
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Cheers, will go do some reading
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:46 PM
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Of course, everyone gets insecure. Insecurity is a pretty normal part of life. But it's incredibly, incredibly unattractive. Acting on insecurity, and letting your insecurities shape and define you and your worldview, is weak. And, again, it is your problem- no one elses. Insecurity festers because you let it fester, and foisting that onto everyone around you instead of working on improving yourself is no way to deal with it. I loathe using these terms because I think they're BS but that attitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:39 PM
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Calm down. I may not have any kids myself but I've, well, been a kid and had the experience of being raised between two very different families with very different approaches to childrearing. It's fairly obvious that there's a bit more to maintaining a happy and successful family than just making sure bills get paid and balls get drained. Also, as society changes the role of the family and the different pressures and challenges associated with managing a family will also, obviously, change. Fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:21 PM
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Nope, don't intend to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:10 PM
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Most men are simple. Speak for yourself mate. most other stuff follows pretty simply. It really doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:06 PM
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No, it just means they sucked at being partners. They fucked up the greatest thing in their lives OR that they chose a shit partner. Maybe so. People make mistakes. Relationships are hard. Don't you think people have the capacity to mature and grow and learn from their mistakes though? If bills get paid, stomachs are full and balls are drained, most other stuff follows pretty simply. Do you really think that's all that being part of a family entails?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:00 PM
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I am the son of divorced parents. I think I understand single parenthood a good deal better than you seem to. Sometimes, relationships don't work out and the best option for all parties concerned- especially the children- is divorce. Is it painful? Does it suck? Yes. Does it mean that both parents are now somehow terrible evil people forever soiled and damaged and consigned to misery and madness? Of course not. Real life and real relationships are not nearly as simple and black and white as you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:53 PM
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What's your basis for concluding that most women become single moms because she is a perfect, kind, conscientious, slightly naïve woman who did absolutely NOTHING wrong? Except u/utigers never made this claim. You're strawmanning hard here chap
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:43 PM
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This thread would not exist if it wasn't a commonly held belief amongst Red Pill believers. These subreddits are not the world. You are making an absolute claim on behalf of men, generally. I would like to see on what grounds you feel you can make this claim with such certainty. Hard evidence, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:41 PM
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And women are not apt at bringing much to the table besides it. yeahhhhhh this is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:39 PM
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Yo dawg I've been hunting around Google Scholar for a couple minutes and have yet to find anything to back up your claims, think I may be using the wrong keywords though. Can you at least give me a hint on what to google, if you don't want to link us a study yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:30 PM
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There aren't enough upvotes in the world for you. You're doing God's work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:21 PM
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"Common sense" is not universal or objective. What's common sense to me is not common sense to you and vice versa. Evidence, please. You've made a statement, back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:16 PM
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The word you're looking for is commoditizing women. That they are reduced to their sexual or relationship value. That I can agree with. Commodifying human beings and reducing them to nothing but sexual value is by default dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:13 PM
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The MEAN of men don't have an interest in sluts or single mothers. What evidence do you have for this, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:50 PM
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OK but as even you seem to realize that's just insecurity speaking. Your insecurities are your problem. Not society's, not modern cultures' and certainly not women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:35 PM
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And TRP relies on indoctrinating frustrated manbabies. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:34 PM
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Then why is there so much hatred of women all over TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:33 PM
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Do you really think that "equal" and "same" are synonymous? To a dictionary with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:32 PM
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Got any actual science to back up these claims breh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:31 PM
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Ah I see. Yeah, I don't think a global average is very helpful then. Too many variables with age, culture etc. that would influence partner count
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:20 PM
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Fair enough. TRP's use of heuristics is, imo, a priori idiotic. Satisfied? The accumulated observations and anecdotes of tens of thousands of men on TRP Does TRP really have that many subscribers? Vomit. Anyway, that says nothing about all or even most women. It only says things about the women encountered by TRP, and the confirmation bias is STRONG with y'all. Speaking for myself my own observations and anecdotes and those of my friends are so far removed from that of TRP that I often feel we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:14 PM
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Fair enough. Speaking for myself I wouldn't be able to make emotional or personal commitments to a woman before I was certain we got along sexually, but then I also have fairly particular kinks and sexual interests. Interesting to hear a different point of view though, ty for the comprehensive reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:05 PM
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Here's the thing though, just because you're claiming something as a heuristic doesn't actually mean that heuristic is correct. Making over-generalized and reductive statements about billions of people doesn't serve to clarify issues, it serves to further distort and confuse them. I understand that TRP uses heuristics, my issue is that they apply heuristics to a field of inquiry where heuristics are not helpful or appropriate . Even saying "most" instead of "all" women is unfounded. On what grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 02:03 PM
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Interesting. I honestly didn't think a lot of people still operated this way, it seems very foreign to me. Don't you worry about committing to a partner with whom you may not be sexually compatible though?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 01:31 PM
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You guys want to speak in sweeping generalizations and grandiose blanket statements? Then you open yourself up to a firing squad of reasonable pedantry. Either change your discourse or deal with the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 01:29 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 01:21 PM
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The average guy has 7 partners his entire life. What, really? That's crazy. I'm in my mid-20s and I don't think I know anyone who's had less than 10 partners. Is that a global average or just for the USA or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 01:10 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: TRP's obsession with trying to find general, universal truths where there are none is its most glaring weakness and one of the main reasons why Redpillers are incapable of understanding women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:01 AM
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Do people really still do this? For me and my mates it's the other way round- I find you need to have sex with someone a few times before emotional intimacy can be achieved. Eg. me and my current SO have been having sex regularly for about four months now but only decided we were ready for a long-term relationship a few weeks ago. Is this really not the case for most of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:57 AM
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There is, but money and social status are pretty big indicators of success. Isn't that what TRP preaches? Perhaps if single parenthood wasn't still so highly stigmatized and there was more societal and cultural support and acceptance of single parents the statistics wouldn't be as high as they are? I acknowledge that divorce is inevitably highly traumatic for children and can leave lasting psychological and emotional scars- I should know, I went through one- but everyone has trauma, everyone has…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:15 PM
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You found the son of the single mommy, actually. Guess my parents are nothing but trash then. I mean one's the CEO of a highly successful business and the other's a doctor of mathematics and they've been nothing but loving and supportive of me their entire life (and I'm not doing badly myself, btw), but hey, self-centred trash is self-centred trash, right? Children ARE important. And a single-parent household is a shitton better for a child's development than a toxic and unsustainable relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:41 PM
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So in other words you're just automatically blaming women for each and every single thing that ever goes wrong in a relationship? It's never the man's fault, ever? Also, why does going through a divorce or breakup automatically mean that both partners are "trash"? How do you come to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:48 AM
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If you go into a relationship assuming it's going to end in disaster, it will probably end in disaster. Again, everyone is different and every relationship is different. It's dumb to assume that each relationship is going to follow exactly the same trajectory as every other relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:18 AM
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Some of these points are valid but if a woman can't make a relationship last for the first few years of the child's life with the freaking father, what's that say about her long term prospects with any other man. why do you automatically assume it's the woman's fault if the father leaves? Also, all of the challenges associated with dating a single mom aren't insurmountable ones. Why pass up on the possibility of a potentially good relationship because of them? Bit shortsighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:12 AM
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Why does being a single mom make her worth any "less"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:07 AM
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Are you making accurate predictions, or are you behaving in such a way that you influence the relationship in the direction you "predict" it would go? The observer effect is a bitch, especially when dealing with something as messy and complex as human relationships. No one said anything about love conquering all. All I'm pointing out is that if you're ignoring specific contexts in favour of mass generalization you're going to come up short.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:06 AM
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Do you think 98% of reds are that unintelligent? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:02 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:01 AM
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Do you absolutely HAVE to refer to them as "bitches"? Like you can't just say "college women" or even "college girls"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:58 AM
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See you're making an assumption there that isn't necessarily founded. A woman who has a lot of sexual partners is not necessarily prone to looking for drama and attention, nor does having lots of casual sex mean that she's just bailing when things get rough or boring. If a woman has a lot of ONS at a point in her life that's in no way a reflection on how she would operate in a serious relationship if and when she wanted to get into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:46 AM
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Tried to reply to this last night but mobile reddit is lame: I'd say it's perfectly possible to hit on someone without either trying to befriend them or use a playbook of sketchy RP strategies? Normal people manage. As for your hypothetical situation, I don't think I would, because as I said before it'd be weird to engage with my friends in a sexual way and there's a good chance it might mess with the friendship. They're my friends; I don't think of them as sexual options anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:43 AM
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The reason it doesn't get old is because it's true dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:41 AM
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suppose I sit next to a girl in class who has the personality of a shoe, but she's super attractive. Happens all the time. You maintain that it would be shitty to "befriend" her (under false pretenses) and going all RP on her is a no-no. So what is the proper course of action? Should I just accept the fact that it's not meant to be, even if I find her attractive and she may want to have sex with me? Idk man I can't really conceptualize wanting to sleep with someone with a shitty personality no m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:52 PM
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I see what you're saying but I think you've misunderstood me. Let me try and clarify: I think it's shitty to befriend someone if you see them as a sex object and ONLY a sex object and have zero interest in them as a person, have nothing in common, don't actually like them that much etc. etc. If sex is the single motivation you have for wanting to get to know someone then you aren't actually their friend, you're only pretending to be their friend. That's the dishonest bit. But it's perfectly poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:30 PM
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Nah, that's not what I'm saying. But in a relationship you have no control over the other persons thoughts and actions, only your own. So all you can do is try not to bore her and be a good and loving partner in an effort to ensure she stays faithful. In any case guys, cheating happens. Divorces and breakups happen. It's not the end of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:28 PM
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It is. But where we disagree is on the point of whether having a high partner count is a negative thing in the first place, you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:22 PM
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His (your?) prerogative. I just think it's dumb to pass up on a relationship with someone if you dig them just because of their partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:18 PM
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Meh, marriage is for old people. Anyway, cheating happens, divorces happen. No big deal. Take it on the chin and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:11 PM
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Or, perhaps they genuinely don't care? I can only speak for myself but me I prefer sexually experienced partners. They tend to be better at sex, for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:45 PM
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Perhaps they don't share your worldview and don't consider these women "trash"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:27 PM
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What? First of all, a woman who's had multiple sex partners is not "used up". That's not how sex works. Secondly, plenty of guys have no problem with committing to promiscuous women. Just because it's an issue for you and other Red Pill types does not mean it's a problem for every man in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:44 PM
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Oh yeah, I forget how TRP dismisses everything that doesn't fit with their paradigm as "outliers"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:35 PM
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Why "lol" at intimacy and companionship? Shared experience = sharing experiences with another human. Doesn't seem hard to understand? Why do you say that love doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:35 PM
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Got to love the way TRP feels fully entitled to make sweeping unsupported judgments on the relationships of strangers on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:32 PM
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Regular sex, intimacy and companionship? Shared experience? Love?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:29 PM
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I'd also like to chime in and say that it's possible to be a drug-taking raver and still be responsible and future-focused. The party lifestyle and career/personal success are not necessarily incompatible. At a lot of the larger raves I attend a significant portion of attendees are either straight-A students or young professionals (including a surprising number of doctors).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:26 PM
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It's not an either-or thing though. The same person is more than capable of having both casual and meaningful sex. Depends on individual people and specific relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:22 PM
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It's not dishonest to be friends with a girl you want to fuck. It's shitty behaviour though to break off that friendship entirely if you then get rejected, because that means that you were only ever interested in her as a sexual object and not as a person. I've befriended several women who I had an interest in sleeping with and when I got turned down by some of them I made sure to handle it maturely and maintain the friendship. A couple of those women remain some of my best friends today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:36 PM
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I hear a lot of people using alpha/beta in everyday life but thanks to the circles I move in its exclusively used in a mocking and derisive manner. Never met an actual terper in real life.Dying to though, that shit will be funny as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:14 PM
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Well, if it's a personal turn-off for you that's fine, everyone has their own tastes and preferences. Just don't get why you need to then make sweeping statements about how these women are somehow worth less just because they've fucked a lot of people. Speaking from personal subjective experience (as we all do, no matter what TRP would like to pretend), one of the most stable, happiest relationships I've had was with a woman who'd had 50+ previous partners, and the absolute worst was with a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:08 AM
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OK. I don't agree but that's just my opinion. Also: who the hell downvoted my above comment? Was just asking a question guys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:54 AM
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You guys are obsessed with patterns and generalities to the point where you seem to totally lose the ability to appreciate specific interactions and contexts. It appears as if you can't- or won't- see the trees for the wood. Far more likely when she's had a massive amount of variety. So? Again, this is an insecurity thing. If you think that the only way you can satisfy/keep a woman is if you pick one who doesn't have many points of comparison you need to step up your game. If anything, it seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:52 AM
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So don't bore her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:48 AM
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If you're obsessing over your woman cheating on you, and you would rather fall back on general statistical possibilities than actually approach each relationship as a unique interaction, then that seems pretty insecure to me. People cheat when they're unhappy and unsatisfied in a relationship. If you can't satisfy your woman or make her happy, that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:59 AM
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That doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:41 AM
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high quality guys will avoid. "High quality guys" won't give a damn because they aren't cripplingly insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:37 AM
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Why do y'all consider those red flags, out of interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:36 AM
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it's pretty common knowledge that a high body count will have an adverse effect on your dating value if you do want to settle down. Common knowledge where, exactly? Bumfucknowhere, Alaska? I don't know anyone outside of the internet who thinks like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:34 AM
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no one is interested in working together; it is a constant power struggle where one tries to control the other. Plenty of people are interested in working together and relationships don't have to be constant power struggles unless you or your partner want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:32 AM
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Ever since around 6-7th grade I had made the conclusion that the only thing that mattered in life was what your face looked like (especially for males). Mate you probably shouldn't take "epiphanies" you had when you were 12 or 13 years old all that seriously later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:23 PM
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my deformities aren't noticeable. it's not so much about women as it is looking into the mirror and being happy. This sounds more like body dysmorphia than deformity to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:17 PM
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