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I guess that's his problem lmao
/r/askTRP15/09/19 06:53 PM
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Well that's the thing - those emotions are exactly what you get off with. As I said its masochism on an emotional level. That's why it's probably left to fantasy because it actually happening would fuck you up. I'm not a possessive or jealous person, and I'm confident enough that I can wander around and bump into someone interesting - if you value genuinely see yourself highly enough, not much really scares you. I just think everyone should have a wicked time of life, and I'm against conventiona…
/r/askTRP14/09/19 06:20 PM
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I agree that it's a good thing to have self respect and actualise that, who wouldn't? But then you get posts where people are being given tips about how to emotionally manipulate their partner into being the perfect submissive wife. It's a horrific way to treat a person.
/r/askTRP14/09/19 05:56 PM
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Why is having a fetish having a mental illness? That's absurd. This isn't the 50s. I think you're taking what I'm saying and kinda straw-manning going on about table tennis and stuff - it's a comparison that doesn't make sense in any way. You can fantasise about something or even do it and it doesn't really have any baring on anything, it doesn't matter.
/r/askTRP14/09/19 05:19 PM
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Idk man, I'm pretty happy. It seems like you're projecting a lot of things onto my own personal idea of life. We're all bitches in the face of mortality, so fuck it, if you get off on something, why not enjoy that? What if fetishes are part of a good sex life? You are arresting the narrative. You create the situation, which means, ultimately, the situation in which you appear to be losing your power, comes as a result of your own power. So you're saying that cucks are infact powerful? I mean tak…
/r/askTRP14/09/19 03:03 PM
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If you already had a good sex life you would just have a good sex life and not desire anything more. Who are you to tell me what a good sex life consists of? This makes no sense - life is a world of infinite possibilities, you can't do everything, and for some people, the idea of variety and experimentation is what they enjoy. Perhaps you want a pretty wife to bang over and over, whatever, that's your thing. That's not what everyone desires. you willingly engage in the cuck fetish I don't, it's …
/r/askTRP14/09/19 01:19 PM
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the most credible guys here, like CainPrice How the fuck is he "credible"? He's just some person desperately trying to defend a fucked ideology. Reading his posts he sounds like a nasty and vindictive individual. People are people, if you act like that ofc you're probably going to attract nasty and vindictive women and such the cycle continues. because you come where with an agenda Yeah because TRP is manipulative and it runs contrary to the way I see the world, it runs contrary to a kind existe…
/r/askTRP14/09/19 08:36 AM
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I explained the root cause of the cuck fetish in my original post - it's a fetish based on power exchange. I get off on the idea of it because I've got a great sex life - so the idea of having the power taken away for me is exciting, much like any kind of BDSM - often it's people who the most successful and powerful that like submissive kinks because it explores an element to having power taken from them. If you don't understand kink or masochism you wont get it. Someone who's happiness depends …
/r/askTRP14/09/19 08:32 AM
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Ok so I will start. I just got out a 1.8yr relationship but before this it was a bunch of being single, had a lot of sex parties back in my flat in Brighton, fucked a lot of amazing people, did a lot of fucking amazing drugs. I'm out of the relationship now and have been on a lot of successful dates since last wedneday. I see the red pill as this thing that is for people that are quite worried about women and the things they could legally do but for me I am going to just truck through life, fuck…
/r/askTRP13/09/19 10:47 PM
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If you are honest with yourself are you truly ok with who you are?
/r/askTRP13/09/19 10:30 PM
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Ok right you fuck. I'm going to posit one of us is in a cult. The red pill is a strange thing because it lets people (mostly dudes) explain the world is about getting things for them, for, quite usefully, a way in which you can get the world to work a way that you might might manipulate and come inside a woman. And control them. Because you are all horrifically insecure. You are terrified. You are scared nobody will ever love you for you. BUT TRP gives you an avenue where life can make sense bec…
/r/askTRP13/09/19 10:21 PM
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Honestly I'm reading your post and I can't believe if you write the shit you write and actually fucking think it's true or you are some grafter prick pushing this absolute nonsense they're already beta losers who think sexual liberation of women is the best thing ever, so they embrace watching the women they support fuck other guys while they touch themselves and call this special brand of loser-dom a cool liberated kink. this feels like an extreme projection of ur own insecurity
/r/askTRP12/09/19 10:45 PM
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Honestly if you can't bring yourself to suck dick but you're on the fence, do a decent coke binge, try it. Give a few days for it to wear off. Figure if you want to still do that, if not, you're probably not that gay
/r/askTRP12/09/19 10:35 PM
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Hey due I went to the depths of strange thing, I mostly jerk off to softcore now. Just an experience in exploration.
/r/askTRP12/09/19 10:34 PM
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Just embrace it dude. Nothing actually matters. Maybe take a break if you want to enjoy pussy again but whatever. Life is too short for judgement
/r/askTRP12/09/19 10:32 PM
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This is a fucking stupid analysis. Cuckold fetish is basically an emotional masochism based on having power (that you have) taken away from you in a way that breaks you mentally. It's like the grass is always greener. You have power in your life, often sexually, and being able to play around with mentally that gives you a flow into something you don't have. The idea of a preferred partner taking the sexual power away from you and then effectively buffing it by demonstrating that they can have it…
/r/askTRP12/09/19 10:23 PM
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You must be people that date really terrible people and thus most likely also be really terrible people.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 03:22 PM
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Perhaps we have different ways of seeing manipulation but i see it as deceitful and undermining
/r/TheRedPill05/06/17 12:24 AM
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CBA to get into it about feminism, but either way I think TRP is still manipulative as fuck
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 11:14 PM
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maybe nobody should be dicks
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 11:13 PM
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Thing is, you already see this as oppositional as opposed to being dialectic. When you get spaces like this and the whole MRA stuff, you get sucked into this mindset that feminism is out to get you, a bunch of liberal cucks want you to be effectively submissive in life, and deny you of the existence you feel that you deserve. I'm not saying that at all. It's important to think about the issues we have as blokes, it's important to be confident and self assured, but it's also really important to l…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 11:06 PM
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People are not maths. At best it's pseudoscience, it's a shitty analysis of something so fluid and organic that it's beyond such garbage analysis as this is. Life isn't about finding a fucking hot and sexy mate. If that's what you're going for you are missing the point. Life, at least for me, is about finding a person that you can connect to and find solace in, that you don't feel alone with, that you can have sweet and lovely enjoyable times with and do quality and amazing stuff with. Trying to…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 11:00 PM
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I'm an alright looking bloke who's finished university and spent at least the last eight years just you know, meeting people and interacting with them. The worst feminists I've met were from university. I helped found a feminist group ages ago and it was great and about empowerment and great stuff, the university cunts ruined it and made it all about this 3.5wave tumblr shit. I have my own personal beef with many many aspects of internet feminism. I was called a racist for trying to shield trans…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:51 PM
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I used to read the fastseduction forums when I was a kid because I legit had no idea what to do or how to behave around women. I saw them as this other thing. It sucked. Then I grew up a bit and met more and was like holy fuck, revelation, they are just other people. I just wish people would also kinda get this as opposed to seeing them as this weird either projected fantasies or tools for satisfaction.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:45 PM
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Well I just don't agree with what the subreddit is perpetuating. I've gone through many places and philosophies and whatnot to get where I am now, it just saddens me that some desperate people who don't know what to do will reach out and find this place that devalues the fuck out of humans.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:42 PM
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I don't feel like I'm being shit on. I have a decent job, a few fucking amazing people I'm shagging...I'm not sure if I'm going wrong somehow but I'm actually quite happy.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:40 PM
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No, what my argument is, is that there it's possible to achieve a balance in the world and be a sexy awesome human without the need to somehow manipulate others and be a general fuckhead. This subreddit does not promote said balance, in my humble fucking opinion. And to be quite honest if you really hate the social trends that make people act certain ways as a group perhaps you should look at least in a fleeting way at feminism, because that tries in it's earnest to deconstruct the bullshit prog…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:36 PM
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It's a legitmate post from a like nine year old account are you actually threatened by this? I want people to be happy, suck my dick.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:34 PM
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So you met some women that were dickheads cool
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:29 PM
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Well I mean that's your problem, I think she's great, you don't have to agree.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:28 PM
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If I was to give you some credit, yeah society may be shit, but we don't fight fire with fire. Sure it's a good idea to wear flame retardant clothing but fuck me, the sweeping generalisations about how people exist and work blows my mind as to how fucking stupid it is
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:27 PM
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This post seems like a poor reversal of what I was actually saying in an attempt to debase my argument and is thus irrelevant.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:26 PM
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Yes but the red pill seems innately self centred, and also projecting a load of ideas about how people are onto people. I've been a happy person in life because I've found that giving a shit about others is kinda central to how I act, and seeing people on an individual basis because everyone is different and strange in their own ways and nobodys experience is the same.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:19 PM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. She is fit as fuck mate.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:16 PM
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You just learn that people are individual entities that have their own conditioning and make their own decisions based on that, and not everyone is the same. It's called growing the fuck up. People grow and change. Are you the same shithead that you were when you were 16 or did you manage to figure out how to not be that shithead at some point?
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 10:13 PM
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Don't be a dick. Be kind. Look after yourself but be kind, see women as equal people - some can be actual nightmares, some can be the most wonderful souls that ever touched the earth. Don't buy into this absurd gamification that TRP seems to teach. It's just people, there's lots of wonderful people out there.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 09:37 PM
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It feels like TRP is actually just a case of people who have been classically unassertive and feel like they've got the short end of the stick basically just massively overcompensating and seeing life as this hostile game that has to be won, whereas when you actually fucking grow up you realise that people are just people, some are dickheads, some want to shag you, some wont, but really if you work together with the humans that happen to come across your path you can end up being happy and meeti…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 09:35 PM
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So you fought manipulative bullshit with manipulative bullshit what could possibly go wrong
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 09:32 PM
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What is sex to you? Is it some sort of mental conquest you have gained or an actual connection between you and another person? I've had meaningless sex and meaningful sex...people care about people they care about and fucking with someone that you have a connection with is far better. Of course it's good to be confident and have options, but allowing yourself to fall into, at least in a moment, with a person is the most amazing thing.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/17 09:28 PM
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from girls who demonize manipulation I more take issue with it because manipulation is firstly fundamentally dishonest (and honesty is core to who I am), and secondly because it's a dark path and if you get used to doing it, can lead to abuse. It's perfectly easy to get with a pretty and interesting girl if you are confident and open minded and easy going, and do so on your own terms, too. Smoking and drinking helps, too, but I'd prefer to suck up the physical damage of those things than the men…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/13 09:09 AM
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Only when seduction is intentionally deceptive. You can seduce people by being awesomely fun and a bit flirty - and stay completely honest while doing it. I've never had to lie and pretend I'm interested in a relationship in order to get a girl in bed, because I find it much kinder to just be honest about it, and realise that yes, there are lots of girls who also just want a shag. If you are going to constantly go after snobby bitches in twatty posh cocktail bars then yes, I'd imagine you'd run …
/r/MensRights25/09/12 11:38 AM
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What up, I'm haywire. Do you believe that all feminism is bad? Or just parts of it?
/r/MensRights08/07/12 12:10 PM
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Well that's a shitty attitude.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 12:10 PM
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I read your comment as validating what she was saying by claiming that it's an accurate representation of what feminism is as opposed to a vast generalisation. If that was wrong, I apologise, perhaps we should start over.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 08:49 AM
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Well you started out with an accusatory comment and casting me as a type of person simply because I post on a certain forum. My original statement was because I thought you meant that her seeing feminism as this negative entity was the be-all and end all, whereas in reality it is multifaceted.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 08:07 AM
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Hell yeah man, I just wish MRAs and feminists could get along and we could all fight together for the betterment of humanity.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 08:02 AM
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Funnily enough, I've been browsing /r/MensRights this morning because I want to get a better idea of what it's like as opposed to just jumping on the bandwagon of assumption. If you look at my comment history you will also see that I've criticised SRS for various reasons. SRSDiscussion is just quite an interesting forum where some interesting issues are talked about. If you want to just pigeonhole me and childishly cast me as some sort of enemy, go ahead, but you will just be proving SRSers righ…
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:55 AM
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I don't think anyone thinks you would be being sexist and exclusionary by simply being proud of who you were. I think you have misinterpreted what they have said as more accusatory than you think. Personally, I think we should be humbled by our advantages and, for instance, those who have fought and died so that we can live as we do today, not jingoistic and arrogant.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:38 AM
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See now you're only seeing feminism for it's worst qualities and participants.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:31 AM
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"Sorry Joe but I met another guy I like and it's my right as a power feminist to do or to be anything" Doing this just makes you a douchebag, some people when given power are douchebags, men have done this since for ever. You can't refuse autonomy for an entire gender because some people might act like shitbags.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:30 AM
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Indeed, but when the privileged do it (rich, whites, straights, men, cis), it is like rubbing the oppressed or exploited's faces in it. I'm sure a lot of people on here don't believe in male privilege and that's up to them, but I was just trying to explain where "TWO" was coming from. "TWO" even said that it's totally ok to be proud of who you are!
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:11 AM
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You do realise nobody actually does that any more? Bras are good for one's breasts...
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:08 AM
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Consent is the name of the game, and so is context. Erotica is a very different context from normalising rape in mainstream content.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 07:05 AM
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"TWO" was saying that there is nothing wrong with being proud of yourself, but acting on it in the same way as, for instance, gay pride, is pointless as something like white pride - it would just be shoving it in the faces of those with privilege.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 06:51 AM
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Yup. Urinals are a great solution.
/r/MensRights10/05/12 09:05 AM
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Well tbh it's kyrarchy (fuck I can never spell that word), and IMO can be explained by class war, gender issues, race issues - essentially people getting power over others and trying to get power over others.
/r/MensRights10/05/12 08:22 AM
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Except it doesn't rule out other causes, nor does it demonstrate the degree to which those causes have an effect. It doesn't explain them, because explanations rule out alternatives. It's not an explanation it's an accommodation, which is akin to making claims like "The dinosaurs could have been on Noah's Ark as eggs, that's how they fit on it" Well no shit, but you can go with the explanation that makes the most sense and can be most logically explained. Society was seriously fucked up and unfa…
/r/MensRights10/05/12 08:12 AM
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Aye but standing up peeing makes it more likely for someone to piss on the seat. What I'd suggest is having seats on a spring like movie theatre seats. That way the seat is up by default, but it prevents people pissing on the seat unless they are really determined to hold it down.
/r/MensRights10/05/12 08:10 AM
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That's not even a counter argument...that's just confirming that you are a generalising simpleton...
/r/MensRights10/05/12 08:09 AM
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Please, tell me how difficult it would have been to make the wording "gender neutral" and protect everyone? Female circumcision is only supported by fringe groups (ultra-conservative religious nuts), and is generally much more severe and awful, and thus people are going to oppose it more. It's already seen as horrendous in the public sphere, thus it's much easier to run a campaign against it. Male circumcision is still seen as normal, healthy, and is supported by many of the major religions. Now…
/r/MensRights10/05/12 08:07 AM
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Unsubstantiated claim. There is a correlative connection demonstrated, not a causative one. Normative statement. Of course you couldn't get empirical evidence for this sort of thing, because there is no way to accurately simulate it. So you have to go with the next best thing which is extrapolating conclusions based on understanding. If society holds men and women to particular roles, then that explains why certain things exist. Next. I don't remember ever seeing a single feminist lobby or blog …
/r/MensRights10/05/12 08:02 AM
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Indeed, though it is disgusting when people piss on the seat, especially if I need a shit. That said I've heard women's toilets are generally warzones.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 11:44 AM
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The level of misogyny is statistically insignificant and less than the level of misandry on feminist sites and in the mainstream. You are just being sexist. Well that's frankly untrue. Feminism is a much, much bigger movement and thus yes will have larger groups that have stupid ideas, but that doesn't mean they have a larger proportion. a significant portion of the discrimination that men face, is coming from feminism, so you cannot have a mens rights movement, with out questioning feminism. Mo…
/r/MensRights09/05/12 11:39 AM
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The aussie lady is clearly nuts, however the canada one seems to just be a solution to men pissing on the seat all the time, which is disgusting. Though it does seem wholly ineffective.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 11:36 AM
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Well then are you going to denounce what they say? I'm pretty sure the people from the select feminist organisations that do stupid things are not members of OneY...
/r/MensRights09/05/12 11:09 AM
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most here believe feminism is either an equal rights movement that started with the right idea but turned into a supremacy movement once it achieved its original goals well there are a few problems with this statement - firstly that that feminism has not achieved its goals because society is still horribly sexist, women are still castigated for being sexually active, and feminism is not just a western movement. The issues are of course, far more complex (because many modern feminist groups belie…
/r/MensRights09/05/12 11:06 AM
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It's not just one person's comment though, this was like the first or second thread I clicked in. I called out a similar comment somewhere else. It's fucking everywhere. Why is nobody calling them out on it? Do you not care that the MRM is being infiltrated and infected by misogynists and antifeminists?
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:45 AM
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The guy who made this kinda misses the point - all the things he listed - birth control, abortion, etc - are massively under threat which is why such a fuss is being created, because Republicans nutters are threatening their freedom and their rights. Sure there are other issues in the country but these are deeply serious issues for half the population.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:14 AM
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Decent people would probably say it's distasteful and offensive whilst the majority would say "it's just a joke get over it" which is pretty much what happens when the roles are reversed.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:10 AM
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feminist scumbag Comments like this are the exact reason people distance themselves from MensRights....
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:08 AM
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Well you could consider the textbook a primary source on how academics view certain issues ;)
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:06 AM
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Source? After a long trawl I found this: http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/261746 Which references a spectator (right wing UK paper) article that doesn't exist. This literally is a non-story. Comments like this are a ridiculous, shameful attempt to make people feel animosity towards feminists. You are everything that is bad with /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 10:00 AM
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Well for one if anyone wanted to troll they would just game the algorithm.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 09:45 PM
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Yeah that's what I thought, that said it's sitting at 0.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 10:33 AM
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We...don't have a socialist state? The US is a textbook neo-liberal state...
/r/MensRights15/02/12 09:02 PM
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No, each of those examples has a unique history that often leads us to realise that it is not socialism that is bad, for that is merely the idea that if we do things for the benefit of ourselves and others, we have better results than if we do it for some guy who's giving us a tiny part of what we create, which is common sense. The USA is diseased because of neo-liberalism and that Rand inspired bullshit. Personal greed has wrought havoc on the system and left corruption, broken lives and people…
/r/MensRights15/02/12 08:47 PM
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Is this post a troll, or simply a tirade of insane babbling based on assumption and weak sources? http://www.lawrence.edu/sorg/objectivism/socfasc.html This article is hilarious, and demonstrates a significant misunderstanding of both socialism and history. The USSR wasn't socialist, the USSR was Leninist and Stalinist, thus the article is built on a completely incorrect premise. Oh wait, this is this objectivism garbage. Moving on..
/r/MensRights15/02/12 06:23 PM
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More correctly, objectivists are so selfish they cannot actually fathom the idea that other people might not be selfish. They have strayed so far from altruism that it's become a completely alien concept.
/r/MensRights15/02/12 06:21 PM
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Don't give a shit.
/r/MensRights03/02/12 02:46 PM
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Cowardice is pretty universally seen as negative. If you have a problem with someone, talk to them directly as opposed to going above their heads.
/r/MensRights03/02/12 08:43 AM
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If you really believe so strongly, quit being a pussy and call her out on it in a lecture.
/r/MensRights03/02/12 12:48 AM
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You should probably not even consider having sex again until you becoming significantly less of an piece of shit.
/r/seduction22/12/11 01:17 AM
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but he would also be shamed by society for trying to control his wife and not encouraging her to further develop herself and have that independence I don't think he'd be shamed by society for not paying for her to go through college, but he would be shamed if he didn't let her, and demanded she stayed at home.
/r/MensRights16/12/11 07:30 AM
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Well the whole idea that men will innately approach stuff "logically" whilst girls will do stuff "emotionally" just reeks of evolutionary psychology crap, and can be explained far better by society. Anyway, it's quite obvious that the OP's wife simply made a douchebag call to start the engineering course on his dime. The whole situation could have probably been avoided through better understanding of their goals.
/r/MensRights16/12/11 12:28 AM
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Nah you are over thinking it and positing massively debunked theories about gender due to your groundless speculation.
/r/MensRights16/12/11 12:16 AM
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This is just one of the many examples of why feminism has many different subsets and beliefs, and why crediting feminists for everything is just stupid. This is the point I've been trying to make. Feminism has lots of different subgroups and people with opposing views. I hate sex-negative, "sex-as-a-commodity" feminism. And the Lyndsay German example - the idea to that was that we are dealing with people. So a feminist may have anti-war views, not because they are a feminist, but because they ar…
/r/MensRights15/12/11 08:19 AM
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Well I agree we should try to influence things in a positive way, but I do think that people need to be called out on their shit. If I was with a bunch of guy mates and one was bragging about how he got a girl blackout drunk and shagged her, I'd call him out and tell him he's a rapist. Yes these things are 9000% more effective when coming from someone you respect, but you have to try and take people to task when they have a stupid opinion or say something awful.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 04:18 PM
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tries to police I don't think policing is the right tactic. Social change has to come from the bottom, and the initial idea of SRS was to draw attention to stuff on reddit that "slips through the net" that is really awful and "call it out". I think there should be more emphasis on education and discussion, especially in "grey area" things (especially humour), and I and many others are getting fairly disillusioned with a lot of the attitudes - I've been labelled a concern troll for questioning wh…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:53 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I've openly admitted that some of the stuff SRS does is utterly retarded (like when it picked on the entirety of /r/TrueReddit because of one guys ideas), but some of what it picks up on, such as the OP, is spot on because it is the stinking faeces that infests reddit and needs to be brought to light. So yes, like everything else, SRS does both good and bad. There is definitely a space for a Men's Right's movement, if only to protect against the fringes of feminism, or influe…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:33 PM
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Well when I meet those feminists, I'll be sure to give them an earful. I was at a feminist meeting in Brighton where we were discussing our issues with other groups, such as the London Feminist Network (Transphobic assholes), Kat Banyard's UK Feminista (anti-porn, in bed with LFN), and of course the Anti-Porn Men Project. So yes, we do have issues and seek to fight against "bad" feminists. If MRA's stuck to fighting for men's issues as opposed to attacking feminism, I'm sure we wouldn't have suc…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:23 PM
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Well I have a problem with /r/mensrights because it seems like an emerging phenomenon that seeks to undermine the tremendous amount of good that feminism has done and still has to do. It's not like I can just close my eyes and it will go away.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 03:16 PM
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Indeed, but the OP clearly wasn't.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 10:33 AM
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No it doesn't, it's just an excuse for feminists to blame everything on men. Patriarchy can explain some things, but it can't explain everything, and that's why it's not valid as the basis of every god damn argument. I don't think the blame now lies with men. I think the blame lies with a very small group of people at the top of society both men and women who make a lot of money off of the way things as they are. The problem is, whilst the counter culture is healthy now, the people at the top us…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:47 AM
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Well maybe she didn't know what she was doing, or was kind of a douche? That doesn't mean that all women don't want to do engineering because one guy's wife made a pretty dubious call.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 09:35 AM
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Ok then. I want MRA's to: Realise that the majority of feminists are not misandrist, and that egalitarian feminism is one of the mainstream feminist beliefs. Accept that their revisionist idea that men have always been the oppressed is completely ignorant of history (white men have literally run the western world for the last 2000 years), and that yes, good men were sent to die, but good women were harvested as slaves/sex slaves. This is far more a class issue than a sex issue. There were also, …
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:53 AM
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You've seen what happens when people respond actually in /r/MensRights, it becomes an unholy flamewar where everyone rolls out the same fucking arguments and fails to listen to each other's opinions. Look at my post history, I've tried, but if I try to be reasonable I'm labelled a concern troll and rushed by many angry people. If I present reasonable arguments, they are ignored and people point out minor flaws and other things. If I try and explain my experience of feminism, people disregard me …
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:30 AM
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Fuck knows. I know the mods are pretty ban happy. I think I might have been banned from it once or twice. It's nothing personal. It also doesn't mean every subscriber agrees with the decisions of the moderators or even all other members. There's plenty of shit on SRS that really shouldn't be linked in my opinion, but then there's also some shit that absolutely should be, such as the OP of this thread, because it's blatantly misogynistic, misinformed, anecdotal bullshit. I mean, personally I do t…
/r/MensRights14/12/11 02:08 AM
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Seeing as we're talking of engineering, do you understand the idea of damping? Or trying to stabilise linear/complex systems? I think that is the best analogy.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 01:45 AM
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I think /r/MR are quite aware of this without your help.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 01:38 AM
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To be honest, with imbecilic nonsense as golden as this, we want it to see it soar all the way to the top.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 01:37 AM
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Perhaps your wife was doing what was best for the kid?
/r/MensRights14/12/11 01:36 AM
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One could argue that this is a result of patriarchy, and a good egalitarian feminist would fight inequality on all levels. Only stupid people are "entitled" to get a free ride off of someone for their entire life, and the feminists I know would be disgusted with the idea.
/r/MensRights04/12/11 11:52 AM
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Exactly, this perfectly illustrates the double standard. Obviously, neither of these outcomes are great, and we should abolish the insanity that are gender oriented school as being divisive and ridiculous in the modern age.
/r/MensRights04/12/11 11:50 AM
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President of Girls' School Association talking about sexism. Ironic much?
/r/MensRights04/12/11 11:48 AM
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If find someone attractive and want to shag them, if you don't, don't. Just ignore whatever gender bullshit or history, just have sex with people you find attractive now. If someone had an op years ago and you don't know about, at the end of the day you had a good time with someone you felt sexually attracted to, so what's the big deal if they used to be the other sex? Problem solved. Obviously if there's potential for a relationship and kids, I'd imagine that the trans issue would come up natur…
/r/MensRights25/11/11 06:23 PM
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Actually, I believe things should be discussed with people that differ in opinion.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 05:14 PM
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Well in that case, I think you're kind of a douche. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 11:02 AM
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(I'm not the person downvoting by the way) Pankhurst clearly says, and believes, that men must die to protect women. That's just the rule of how it works, it's not chivalry, that's just how it works. And she's fine with that. No, you misunderstand, she says that that is how it is how it has worked and that is the rule, so there it is not really "chivalry", merely people doing what is expected, and also reinforces that it's still incredibly brave "in no way downplay the gallantry", and the articl…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 03:16 AM
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(I'm not the person downvoting by the way) Pankhurst clearly says, and believes, that men must die to protect women. That's just the rule of how it works, it's not chivalry, that's just how it works. And she's fine with that. No, you misunderstand, she says that that is how it is how it has worked and that is the rule with regards to that situation, so there it is not really "chivalry", but people doing what is expected, and also reinforces that it's still incredibly brave "in no way downplay th…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 03:16 AM
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I think suggesting that broadly generalising with negative opinions of all feminists seems to be a bad thing to do is a pretty reasonable thing to say.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 03:11 AM
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And it's shit like this, not even being able to accept reasonable discussion that disagrees with what you are saying, plus acting if you represent all men, which makes the average person utterly resent MRAs. Simply hiding behind the idea that I'm a "concern troll" and disregarding my arguments because they don't agree with yours isn't winning an argument.
/r/MensRights21/11/11 01:56 AM
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Keeping you kids is a real advantage to loosing them. Well, if the system hadn't been developed by men originally to keep women at home and in a mothering role, perhaps there wouldn't be such a bias towards female custody. In fact, maybe the way society is changing and women are getting careers as much as men means that society will slowly change to see women and men as equal carers :)
/r/MensRights21/11/11 01:54 AM
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I'm mostly referring to "full-time feminists", those whose paychecks come from feminist activism. Bloggers, academics, think-tanks, etc. Careerists have a tendency to be nightmares in any field, tbh. keep feminism important, even when it's not It very much is, unless your view of feminism is restricted to microcosms of western society as opposed to an international movement. feminism has done for men in the, what, over half a century it has existed I can't think of any off the top of my head, so…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 01:53 AM
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Actually, in the first article you linked, the Suffragette leaders actually said that they would "prefer to meet her fate alongside her husband". You have just proved the exact opposite of what you are trying to say. The article may initially seem that Sylvia Pankhurst is supporting the idea, but if you look towards the end of the first column you realise that actually they are saying that they accept that those were the ship's rules, however they would prefer each boat that left to be "half men…
/r/MensRights21/11/11 01:48 AM
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You are simply putting words into the mouths of people you do not know, and are making broad, sweeping assumptions about their opinions. I was talking about a specific example, computer science, and how there is a significant minority of women doing that. So feminists and academics are looking at the reason for that in order to get a better balance in that subject. Now, what a mature person would do if they found this unfair, would be to launch a program to get more males involved with nursing o…
/r/MensRights20/11/11 05:29 AM
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Well, egalitarian feminism is quite prominent. Many feminists see supposed "advantages" given to women as quite patronising. So for instance, they would arguing against positive discrimination towards women in an over-subscribed Computer Science course, but they would argue that in order to address the balance, there needs to be effort or focus on getting girls into computer oriented subjects at school, because there is an imbalance in attitudes and upbringing that needs to be tackled.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 05:07 AM
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I'm not sure you understand things. I mean, yes there are some feminists that have done a women's rights degree and thus work in academia, but the vast majority of feminists are just ordinary men and women who have good jobs - teachers, programmers, civil service workers, etc... This needless negativity and blundering, uninformed views of feminism that we see time and time again is what, if anything, is holding "Men's Rights" back from being taken seriously by anyone as a movement. If all the ti…
/r/MensRights20/11/11 05:00 AM
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Perhaps if men stopped raping women there would be no need for these groups.
/r/MensRights08/11/11 09:03 AM
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So the struggle to get a vote was some sort of conspiracy by women too? You know, they all had power by withholding sex from the husbands they'd been forced to marry anyway, right, RIGHT?
/r/MensRights02/11/11 11:38 PM
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Yes, I know. Physical arousal does not equal consent.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 02:04 AM
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You basically described raping a girl as if you were someone who'd done that. I think that is why people think you are a rapist.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 12:20 AM
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It does happen and it's rape, too. I guess it's a bit more difficult because if the man is not physically aroused, then penetration would be near impossible.
/r/MensRights31/10/11 12:18 AM
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Have you ever heard of mental manipulation and emotional abuse? It isn't as simple as simply walking away. Abusers will focus on any weakness to keep a person under their control. Some people crack.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 11:54 PM
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Well the statistics vary from 5% of women to 25% of women reporting male on female rape, outside of the very specific situations that you mention. But we're missing the point here - whether rape is gendered or not, what we want to do is end all rape, regardless of who perpetrates it and who is the victim. Nobody should have to go through that.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 12:04 PM
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present rape as gendered Honestly I thought rape did that well enough.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 09:04 AM
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Off the top of my head I know several anti-equality initiatives that certain specific feminists have endorsed. And you'll find just as many if not more feminists that vehemently oppose these things. The people I know push for paternity leave, the closing of prisons for both sexes, and having DV recognised as something that can and is perpetrated by men. The point is, letting a specific vocal minority tarnish your opinion of an entire movement is as crazy as, say, saying all Muslims are terrorist…
/r/MensRights15/10/11 08:45 AM
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Of course not! What confuses me is that MRAs seem to spend more time bashing feminism than fighting worthy causes, like against unnecessary circumcision! There's this idea that it's feminism VS MRA. Perhaps there's some crazy internet feminists that are misandrist, but back in the grassroots, most "feminists" I've met are really just egalitarians who happen to be fighting for women specific issues (because there's a damn sight more of them). Here in Brighton, when the local feminist group heard …
/r/MensRights15/10/11 08:19 AM
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So because we get circumcised, several thousand years of oppression are moot point?
/r/MensRights15/10/11 08:11 AM
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Holy shit it's factually accurate now. Stop deluding yourselves. Together with the right to marry comes the right to divorce. This is a right available to either of the sexes. Oh yeah, like right now in Islamic countries where women are married as children and are raped by men.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 08:22 PM
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women of the traditionalist-feminist variety--the "no sex until I'm legally entitled to half your shit" Actually, most feminists I know fuck on the first date, so you're wrong there.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 09:09 AM
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Oh god this cracked me up so much. The logic is so bitter and twisted to the point it's utterly, utterly flawed. yet women tend to want nothing to do with me Bitter nice guy, eh? Tip: It's not hard to get laid if you're relaxed, chilled, courageous/confident and don't try too hard. Regardless of how you look. Not being fat also helps (not saying OP is fat, but having a healthy body demonstrates self-respect). It bewilders me that we should be expected to give respect to a whole class of people t…
/r/MensRights23/09/11 09:06 AM
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Why? If boys turn out masculine and girl's feminine, that's great. But if we brought them up without imposing these things on them then what exactly is the problem?
/r/MensRights20/09/11 08:57 AM
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I guess it boils down to whether you think that transgendered people should be treated as the gender they have transitioned to across the board or whether there should be an exception in the case of sex. It isn't clear cut. Whilst I would prefer if the former were possible, I do understand the reasoning behind the latter.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 12:21 AM
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I'm crossed as to whether if someone used to be a boy, they should tell you. However, if you are sexually attracted to them anyway, I don't really see the issue. If you're going to reject them on the basis on a simple idea, I guess it should be your choice, but that's pretty fucking retarded. If everyone was brought up to be bisexual, perhaps this problem would be solved - if you turned out to prefer men, you could sleep with men, if you turned out to prefer women, you could sleep with then - IE…
/r/MensRights19/09/11 11:57 PM
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I bet you couldn't tell the difference.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 03:56 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights19/09/11 02:07 PM
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Insane offensiveness aside, this has fuck all scientific basis. We're just as "evolved" as our parents, regardless of our sex.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 10:41 AM
1

Nerds can also be excessively arrogant, patronising, and misosgynistic. I've seen it many many times. I was disliked by girls at my school as I was either insane and hyper or awkward and anxious. Went to uni, threw myself into things, allowed myself to let go of control, found my feet and ended up shagging an above average amount of girls. Now I have an awesome girlfriend, and why? Because I manned up and dived into life, as opposed to sitting on the sidelines judging.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 09:20 AM
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Women are accountable if they decide to drive a car and so they should be if they choose to have sex while drunk. This is a flawed comparison. If a women or man drives a car, that is a conscious choice. If a woman or man is attacked and raped, or taken advantage of, that is rape. Nobody deserves that, no matter how plastered you get. Even if you pass out in the middle of a street you don't deserve rape.
/r/MensRights16/09/11 01:26 AM
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accountability Hold on, accountability for being raped?
/r/MensRights16/09/11 12:21 AM
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aside from the fact that you seem to think women helped themselves with no help from men (which is ludicrous), I never said anything of the sort. It's shit like this assumptive straw-man bullshit that discredits everything you are saying. that's right, taxes. and which gender pays the most tax? that's right, men. Technically it's more of a class thing. Women who can earn the same as men pay the same amount of tax. Perhaps if there was less of a wage divide, then women would pay as much tax as me…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 12:13 PM
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MensRights sure ain't.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 10:47 AM
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No, I think the idea is, mature people realise that boys are welcome to fight for boys problems, and girls will help them out when they can, but will focus on girl problems because they are more equipped to fight them. If MR was just about solving guy problems as opposed to attacking feminism, I think people would take it seriously.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 10:47 AM
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See I think the whole issue with MR is that they see men as the blacks in the race struggle. Whereas really, anyone with any perspective realises that white males are the most privileged group of people on the planet. White males are literally the white males of the planet. This post is absurd to the point where it is comparing the white man struggle to the struggle of black men against white men, then suggesting that the white man is figuratively the black man. What the fuck? MR is what happens…
/r/MensRights15/09/11 10:18 AM
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Or perhaps because it happens far, far less?
/r/MensRights15/09/11 10:16 AM
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You sad pathetic person. Shit like this is why nobody takes MR seriously. Perhaps if MRs stopped focussing on petty bullshit and being anti-feminist, and actually campaigned to help men and fix problems that face men (like forced circumcision in Africa, or the military service), then people would take you lot seriously. You actually think trying to de-rail a rape seminar is the way to go about changing things for the better of all? What the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/MensRights15/09/11 10:14 AM
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Perhaps we should combine feminism and mensrights into...hmm..HUMANISM!!!
/r/MensRights26/07/11 08:28 AM
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yet at the same time there are very few women of note for great acts of good, or in fact any form of action at all. Aahahahahaahahah hhahaahahahahahahahahaha aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahah
/r/MensRights23/07/11 10:26 PM
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Oh my god, that article is misogynistic bile, pure and simple.
/r/MensRights23/07/11 10:23 PM
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Hurrah some anecdotal bullshit!
/r/MensRights23/07/11 09:48 PM
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Awesome!
/r/MensRights13/06/11 04:10 AM
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I doubt that this is universally true. But it remaining legally permissible is better than outlawing rudeness, especially in a gender-biased manner. This presumes that you think these problems can be solved by legislation. What I support is more changing people's attitudes - solving the problem at the source rather than tackling the side-effects. Some social attitudes affect men negatively as well. So what? Because there are some things that affect men, the things that affect women don't matter?…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:58 PM
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Not authority, but my opinion. And they'd not be incorrect because the definition of feminism is that which furthers the cause of woman. That said, the dictionary says: "The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men" But I've found that traditionally even though generally disagreed with, pro-woman anti-man feminism has been accepted as a valid form of feminism, just an extremely (in my opinion) retarded one. That said, the correctness is debatab…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:02 PM
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If I am for women's rights, does that make me a feminist? I guess so. Feminism is just a word, it represents a whole range of ideas (see my other post). Any ideal has mindless zealots, unfortunately in especially capitalist societies, gain is achieved by depriving others, and otherwise good people are corrupted into seeking their own gain. So a feminist group in an extremely capitalist society such as the USA, is more than likely to form into something that takes from others to further their own…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 08:00 PM
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Thanks. Sorry if I was too aggressive sounding in another post in reply to you, I edited it quickly after re-reading it but you might have seen it already.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:32 PM
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Honestly I don't really give a fuck what gender the mods are. And yeah, I think there's an aspect of solidarity with the plight of women, especially in other parts of the world.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:31 PM
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Almost all of MR accepts the politically correct definition of feminism. We just think that their equality has been achieved (or will be without additional pushing) in every important sense, so they should stop pushing. This is pretty untrue. We've come a long way legally and even financially, but not socially. Rape isn't taken seriously by the police in most cases. Women are still massively objectified in the media. Women are demonised for being desiring of sex, but put on the pedestal for bein…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:20 PM
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You have to work within the context of the system you are in not only to destroy it, but improve it until you can destroy it. Also, "feminism" isn't one big group, but a collection of theories around a general idea. There's nothing stopping someone starting a lobbying group, calling it "feminist", and using it to completely fuck over men. That would be wrong, but not technically incorrect. Another group could start in order to, for instance, enable women drivers in Saudi. This would be morally r…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:15 PM
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I can't speak for others but I imagine we'd would welcome their services if we thought they would be unbiased in their behaviour. We would stop using their services if they proved otherwise.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:12 PM
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There's no one type of feminism. Some forms of anarchism strongly emphasises what many of us consider the most well considered of feminism. Other forms of anarchism emphasise different types of feminism. Either way, anarchism is about removing hierarchy and authority. This is also what 99% of feminism is also about, but in the context of gender.
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:10 PM
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So in actual fact, the victim of what feminism opposes, is actually everyone. So perhaps you should support some of us. Many modern "feminist" concepts are pretty much egalitarian anyway, and the many of ones that specifically affect men (opinions on war, exploitation of a workforce) are covered by our other beliefs. We want a good, non-oppressed, non-exploitative existence for everyone. Feminism is like another card in our deck, that happens to be intrinsically related to some of the other card…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 07:03 PM
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Feminism seeks to gain power from the state What are you on about? There are many different forms of feminism. For instance, I subscribe to radical egalitarian feminism which means women should be as free as men (and they should both be freer), but I also think there are parts of society which essentially propagate bullshit gender stereotypes and encourage negative attitudes. "Feminism" is so multifaceted there's very roughly three main categories: libertarian feminists that think that women sho…
/r/MensRights12/06/11 06:42 PM
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And the tragic thing is that all these laws simply devalue the legal issue of rape - because they are so biased towards the man, they do nothing to ensure that real rape victims get the justice they deserve.
/r/MensRights18/04/09 09:29 AM
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