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Not necessarily virtuous, but people process psychological trauma in different ways, and choosing to walk away from the situation is completely normal. It sucks for the child, and it's not their fault, obviously, but you can't require the man to prioritize someone else's (the child's) mental wellbeing over his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:50 AM
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Moral and legal are very different things. The state can decide what is legal, but it's up to the father to decide what he considers moral. People process psychological trauma in different ways, and forcing the victim to do anything he isn't willing to do in this situation is just fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:01 AM
6

People normally can't "just stop feeling" how they feel. Come on, are you really blaming the person who feels ashamed of something harmless rather than the society that perpetuates the idea that male virginity is something shameful?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:32 PM
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I would
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:42 AM
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I have only been in one short relationship and have been single for 15 years now. Will it sound more convincing if I say relationships are not necessary and you can have a fulfilling life without them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:42 AM
-6

All the wrong things...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:01 AM
13

"Learn to handle abuse"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:18 PM
8

So whatever she does, she is wrong and you are right. You must be a very pleasant person to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 07:15 AM
11

You can be toxic without killing anyone, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:04 AM
8

Yes. Just like some guys are unhealthy and entitled and expect the world to give them whatever they want just because, there are also deeply unhealthy women who expect the same thing. They are just as unreasonable and angry and no man owes them anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:18 AM
1

I don't know how it is to be a man, and I understand that their experience must be very different from mine, but obsessing over something that requires another person's body definitely is "a lot of shit". Question, when you describe sex as "something that feels more pleasurable than anything else", are you exaggerating or do you actually mean it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:39 PM
2

Does reading count as consumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:18 AM
4

I think men's rights are important simply because men are people
/r/MensRights08/06/23 05:08 PM
56

We say things in female subs too, they just get downvoted and not many people see them. Also, we only things when they have something to do with the discussion in the sub, not just out of the blue
/r/MensRights04/06/23 02:44 PM
1

If your whole life revolves around pleasing another person, that's very unhealthy, definitely not a normal human relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:44 PM
1

Honestly, both sound like hell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:43 PM
1

I was referring to the idea that women "argue for the sake of argument" and therefore your opponent "has to be a woman"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 02:36 PM
0

A guy defending red pill is being sexist. Why am I not surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:03 PM
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That's true, but also most women aren't gold diggers, yet men still are, and should be, cautious about it. Being used for money sucks, and I can't blame men for trying to avoid it. Being physically abused is even worse, and I can't blame women for being cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:49 AM
20

The "nice girls" are terrifying. Batshit crazy.
/r/MensRights11/05/23 09:00 AM
9

It's not an excuse. Excuses or explanations are rational, and as OP pointed out, rational doesn't matter in attraction. You are either drawn to something or not. So it doesn't matter if it's changeable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:53 PM
1

I don't get why this idea makes people so mad. If you want a child, find a willing partner. If you want a child and your partner doesn't, think if you can raise them all by yourself. If yes, go for it. If no, you shouldn't be able to make a decision for him and make him pay for it. Why is this so difficult. Also, OP, you said nothing wrong and if someone needs to apologize, it's her, not you.
/r/MensRights16/03/23 10:52 PM
2

And yet these same men complain that women "settle" for them if the woman isn't jumping on your dick 20 minutes after she met you because obviously she can't be attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:22 PM
2

It's not about caring about body counts. It's about hypocrisy and pushing the boundaries she communicated very clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:51 PM
2

I mean, the fact that paternity tests can be just banned in some countries is horrifying
/r/MensRights05/03/23 09:04 PM
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This is honestly horrifying
/r/MensRights05/03/23 07:54 PM
8

This is not just a male thing, if there is a simple way to get rid of your partner's doubts and you are refusing to do it just because, your partner can and will grow more suspicious.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 07:52 PM
1

Talking about preferences isn't talking about anatomy. He literally says "Females can have a preference on dick size, but men can't have a preference on how pussy looks". Preferences aren't anatomy. Stop playing dumb
/r/MensRights03/03/23 08:29 AM
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Read my comment again
/r/MensRights03/03/23 08:09 AM
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The word "females" is not in the original picture (with vulvas), it's in his reply where he talks about preferences. He talks about the same thing for men and women, exactly the same, but he uses "females" to refer to women and "men" to refer to, well, men. How can you not see it?
/r/MensRights03/03/23 08:09 AM
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Are you a troll? He is literally comparing men's preferences and women's preferences. He is talking about the same thing from both perspectives. But he chooses to say "females" qnd "men". If you don't understand why it might sound disrespectful, you don't have to, you can just believe people who are on the receiving end of this.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 06:38 AM
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You know, I would believe that if they also referred to men as males. But they don't. Also, when you see someone say "females" when talking about women, usually they have nothing good to say about women. I wonder why
/r/MensRights03/03/23 06:31 AM
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It's not like making a joke about a rock which looks like a giant dick. It's more like saying "If you are 5'2, sit down, boy, and let MEN talk to women". Making jokes about people's insecurities is kinda shitty, especially if it's about something they simply can't change.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 06:29 AM
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Yet no one is saying "male" when they talk about men
/r/MensRights03/03/23 06:25 AM
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Calling out disrespect is not derailing
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:16 PM
-14

The post is literally a reply a picture shaming women for the color of their genitals.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:14 PM
10

It boggles me when people say they like giving head. How do you enjoy putting genitals in your mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:04 PM
8

There are 7 billion people on this planet, would be weird if you were the first one for the woman you choose, just like you likely had feelings/crushes/relationships before you met her. It's normal to have relationship with people who have past, it doesn't mean they don't value you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:39 PM
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True, but the decision needs to be made long before the child is born. So the woman already knows what her partner has decided before she makes the decision to keep the pregnancy.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 01:29 PM
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Most men who were tricked into taking care of another man's child were absolutely sure their relationship was good and built on trust. Also benefits the child because their parents' medical history is very relevant.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 10:20 PM
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Well, the actual father should take care of his child, or the government. I honestly don't see a problem with paying a little bit more taxes if it means children are taken care of AND manipulative assholes can't babytrap a man who isn't even the biological father.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 10:16 PM
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Even if it doesn't happen too often, the test hurts no one and this is a great way to make sure the father is really the father and will spend 18 years of his life taking care of his own child.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 10:12 PM
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This is also a good way to avoid hurting your partner because you don't trust them, which is the only possible problem in this situation (not as big of a problem as raising another man's child, obviously). If it's done automatically after birth, everyone wins except for manipulative cheaters.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 10:08 PM
2

Acknowledging something that's right here isn't "doing the work of backing up someone's claim". People don't have to copy every other comment from this same post you are reading right now. Closing your eyes and ignoring an obvious thing isn't a good argument in discussion.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 09:52 AM
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Men and women should have equal reproductive rights, and they are unequal now. However, to achieve equality, we should give men more rights and not take away women's rights from them. Making women's lives shittier isn't going to make men's lives any better.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 09:48 AM
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Gomez is madly in love with Morticia in every movie/series/comics about the Addams family. Morticia is also in love with him. And the beekeeper is a guy who loves his hobby, isn't ashamed to do what he wants just because other people don't like it, and "not having guts" to talk to a girl you like is something a lot of boys have experienced. To be honest, a lot of girls have experienced it too. He isn't a loser just because he is human
/r/MensRights14/12/22 09:30 AM
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He said women shouldn't be able to get an abortion if their partners want to keep the pregnancy. I have no problem with him disliking what feminism has become. But forcing someone to keep an unwanted pregnancy is never okay
/r/MensRights14/12/22 09:11 AM
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Why are you playing dumb? Half of the comments here are about how hortible feminist women are and how he dodged a huge bullet because a feminist is going to fuck your life up if you get involved with her. They know nothing about this woman except that she disliked at least one of the things he said and decided not to talk to him anymore. I wouldn't talk to a person who doesn't believe in my rights to my body either. It doesn't make me evil or a manipulator, as a lot of comments implied.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:54 PM
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How exactly are they losers or idiots?
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:45 PM
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Just read the comments to this post lol
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:24 PM
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Please no, if this guy agrees with the OP that women shouldn't have access to abortion, he shouldn't "try it sometime"
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:23 PM
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Not liking the idea of a forced pregnancy isn't "blowing things out of proportion". Using men for their genetic material (or for their money for that matter) is shitty, disrespectful and overall an awful thing to do, but using women as incubators is a whole new level of dehumanising.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:18 PM
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Why would she have sympathy for a guy who thinks she should be forced into an unwanted pregnancy?
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:11 PM
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Exactly
/r/MensRights13/12/22 09:58 PM
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I believe in men's rights, and I'm all for equality, but would reject anyone who thinks women shouldn't have access to abortion if someone else doesn't want her to have it
/r/MensRights13/12/22 09:57 PM
1

Of course I can't speak for all women and of course I know some women do it, and yes, you need to be careful if you want to avoid women who do that. But I don't think it's even the majority of women, let alone all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:17 PM
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You know perfectly well that "we don't sleep with strangers" means "not even one stranger"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:13 PM
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I don't know what kind of women you talk to, but there are a lot of us who never sleep with strangers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:10 PM
2

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:15 PM
2

That sounds awful and I'm sorry this happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:14 PM
3

That's one way to look at it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:07 PM
0

It can be manipulation. It can be that she tried it, got burnt and doesn't want to repeat that mistake. It can be that she isn't comfortable having sex with you yet. It can be because she doesn't want to have sex now, no matter if it's with you or not. People are different and their situations are different, and you are oversimplifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 02:28 PM
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You make a lot of assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:54 PM
2

I think I didn't phrase it correctly. I meant that sleeping with one person right away and not sleeping with another isn't bad and also doesn't mean you don't like the second person. Pretending to be someone who doesn't engage in casual sex when you actually do is obviously shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 01:38 PM
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If you don't have sex with someone right away, it doesn't mean you are pretending to be chaste. You might not want to have sex with them, and expecting someone to do something for you just because they have done it before is silly. It can be about self control, one time you failed and another time you didn't. Now if you are trying to make a guy believe you are something you aren't (a woman who doesn't have casual sex), then yes, it's shitty and you are a manipulator. But simply not having sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:53 PM
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I can't speak for all women, but a lot of us, me included, would gladly give up the option of casual sex. Yes, I get what you are saying and I can see why men wouldn't like it. However, demanding casual sex because this person has had casual sex before is silly. It might take longer to become comfortable with one person than another, and it's okay. And yes, they might be worried about being pumped and dumped, especially if it has happened to them before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:46 PM
4

Can't argue with that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:01 PM
13

This is true, but some women never sleep with men they have just met, and you have no way to know if one particular woman has done it or not. So you will need to either reject all women who don't sleep with you right away or "risk" dating a woman who didn't make another man wait. And also sometimes people make mistakes and then decide to never repeat them, and it doesn't mean they are "playing" people around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:31 AM
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My analogy wasn't about guys liking or not liking me if I do something (take drugs/sleep around). It was about changing your behavior intentionally and whether it means you are pretending. My point is, you can do something, then decide it's not good for you and stop doing it, and it doesn't make you a hypocrite. It also doesn't mean that you don't appreciate people around you if you refuse to do that harmful thing from your past with them. Let's say a guy does everything his girlfriend wants, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:11 AM
6

Okay, if you used to have a drug addiction and you would get high with your ex-boyfriend, but now you are clean and you refuse to do that again, are you pretending to be someone you aren't or have you just changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:45 AM
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For many women it takes time to develop sexual attraction even if they like you though. It doesn't mean that you are "not enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:35 AM
9

Do you think having self control is "pretending to be someone you aren't"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:12 AM
1

Why stop talking about compatibility? You can only have one partner, so why choose someone who makes your life harder instead of someone who makes it better? And also "not compatible" doesn't mean "not good enough". It just means that you are better off alone than together. And no, you don't need to give any justification if you don't want to date someone, just like you don't need to justify your choice if I offer you coffee and you say no. "No" is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:47 PM
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I would say that neither is rape, but both are definitely sexual assault and can't be justified in any way. And the victim definitely shouldn't be responsible for the decision they never made
/r/MensRights28/11/22 10:45 AM
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You don't need any excuse, you can just say no. And you don't have to start a relationship with every person interested in you. It's not laziness, it's choosing what you want, and there is literally nothing wrong with it. Why choose someone incompatible if you can choose someone compatible and have a relationship of much better quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:39 AM
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You don't need an excuse to reject someone. Not being with someone is the default. You need a reason to start a relationship. And starting a relationship with someone you are incompatible with is just stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:43 AM
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Some of them actually wanted it (most doesn't mean all), and some hoped it wasn't casual and would grow into something bigger. That's why they complain about "being used dor sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:54 PM
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It's not only women, men can be just as foolish, and I wasn't trying to make women look better than they are. I just stated that being able to get something you never wanted is not a privilege and doesn't change the overall situation for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:47 PM
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Well, "most women" doesn't mean "all women", and very often women have sex with men because they believe they will have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:38 PM
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Most women don't care for getting "just sex", so it's irrelevant if they can get it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:09 PM
-1

That's true, you have a much healthier reaction to people criticizing you, but hating on the opposite gender is not okay in both cases.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 02:14 PM
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Never heard of "ask feminists", but "men bad" seems to be a pretty popular topic in any feminist/woman centric subreddit. Point is, it's not healthy, and if you (rightfully) criticize feminists for it, you probably shouldn't do the same.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:35 PM
8

Just read comments to any post here. There always are some "women bad" comments.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:26 PM
1

Both preferences are 100% valid
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:15 AM
1

I'm sorry you have to deal with that. You might try asking about it in r/AskDocs
/r/MenSupportMen11/11/22 04:20 PM
-6

From what I see, mostly men who don't mind. They don't actively choose to do it, but are okay with whatever happens
/r/MensRights10/11/22 10:55 PM
3

I also agree that it's not a good topic for primary schools, but talking about something that objectively exists isn't forcing it on people. I grew up in a Christian family and it was never a problem for me or my parents if other people had different opinions or beliefs. Sharing what you know or think is okay, making decisions for other people is not.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 09:13 PM
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Voting on gay and trans rights isn't forcing it on Muslims though. If they don't like homosexuality, they are free to keep on disliking it. Unless you mean something like voting to force a Christian baker to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple, of course. That's fucked up
/r/MensRights10/11/22 09:00 PM
-12

Well, if you vote against abortion because of your religion, you ARE forcing your religion on other people. It's kind of like if Hindus voted to outlaw beef because according to their religion cows are sacred.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:38 PM
2

Or a human lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:00 PM
10

That's true. Not all parents love unconditionally, but some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:50 PM
2

Why would that be a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:49 PM
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Unconditional love is only possible between a parent and a child. Any other type of love is conditional and it should be. "I love you as long as you don't break my boundaries" is a condition, and it's a healthy one. If your love doesn't have this condition, you will probably benefit from therapy. It all doesn't mean that people can't genuinely love someone romantically. Romantic love doesn't mean unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 03:44 PM
1

Natural doesn't need reinforcement. It's natural for cats to hunt smaller animals, cats do it all the time. It's natural for babies to try to taste everything, they put in their mouths whatever they can grab. Its natural for people to be social, so true loners are extremely rare and most people seek company. If a society needs to pass laws to keep the "natural order", it means the order isn't all that natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:24 PM
-1

The post is literally about men being frustrated because women don't want them
/r/MensRights03/11/22 10:19 AM
1

Every country sees people as statistic, my country is not cynical about it. And yes, I would rather risk my life for others than bring another innocent soul to this fucked up world, and then spend the next 20 years being depressed and miserable, and possibly making that child miserable as well.
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:28 PM
1

Then why are you offended by a stranger on the internet who thinks one horrible thing is still better for them personally than another horrible thing?
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:23 PM
1

I agree with most of what you said and I appreciate you being civil and explaining your point of view instead of downvoting my every comment or insulting me. Yes, men's problems are ignored and dismissed very often, unfortunately. Yes, conscription is a big problem. Yes, women tend to focus on their own problems and pay very little attention to struggles men have. I never meant to normalise war or pathologize childbirth. Having a child might be cool if that's what you want to do. The only thing …
/r/MensRights25/10/22 09:21 PM
1

Oh great, so then you can acknowledge that someone making decisions about your life and your body theoretically might be considered worse than death by some people
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:01 PM
1

I never said childbirth was worse than conscription. I said that I personally would choose a war over being forced into a pregnancy and you guys got offended. There are people volunteering to fight in a war, are you offended by their personal choice too? I know there are people who don't take men's problems seriously, and many "feminists" are misandrists in disguise, including that subreddit, but not every single person who has a different opinion than yours is like this.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:34 PM
1

You seem to think that death is the worst thing that can happen to someone
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:52 PM
1

You have a very romanticised view on pregnancy and bad things happen way more often than you seem to think. There are bad things other than literally dying, you know. Having your body messed up "for the future of humanity" isn't a privilege no matter how you phrase it. And I never said conscription was okay or not real. The OP decided to compare the two because he didn't like a post in a supposedly feminist community.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:50 PM
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I've seen enough for these past 8 months, thanks
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:38 PM
2

The original post was about forcing women to have kids. And yes, forcing men to fight in a war is messed up
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:20 AM
1

And one more time, it was the OP who decided to compare childbirth and war, not me
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:19 AM
1

"Childbirth is a privilege" is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. You are minimizing and being dismissive about problems you will never face and then call the other person disrespectful. I never ever said anything disrespectful about our guys or what they are doing right now just because I have nothing bad to say about them, and they are literally doing something impossible right now. But taking a reasonable post from a supposedly feminist subreddit and complaining about it because appare…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 04:17 AM
2

That's the point, having a child because you wanted to is fine. The post, however, is about being forced to have a child. How fucking difficult can it be to get? Having sex is fun, being forced to have sex is rape. Drinking may be fun, if someone is trying to get you drunk against your wishes, they are fucked up. Traveling with someone is awesome, if you are forced to travel with someone, it's kidnapping. Having a child might be awesome, being forced to have a child is awful. Going to a war is f…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:59 AM
1

Don't worry, I've seen a lot for these last months. And I appreciate what I have. I respect people, men included. Hope you guys can maybe respect and appreciate women and their "overhyped" problems too
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:47 AM
2

Can you give me one example where I "downplayed" anything?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:32 AM
2

I implied that it's better for me personally and that downplaying the dark side of pregnancy is not okay
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:26 AM
1

What makes you think I don't respect men?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:22 AM
2

You are putting words in my mouth. I never said that
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:12 AM
2

And btw the OP was the one comparing forced pregnancy to conscription
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:10 AM
2

I didn't say it was better. I said I personally would choose going to war over pregnancy.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:07 AM
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My whole argument is that being forced to fuck up your life is, well, fucked up, regardless of your gender or the way your life gets fucked up.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 03:00 AM
2

Comparing forced pregnancy to a sore throat is just insane. And if you are worried about me being too safe, you can sleep peacefully because Russia targets civilians, so no one is really safe here
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:57 AM
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I never said I would send a loved one to a war. I said I would choose it for myself, not them.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:50 AM
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Yes, I would prefer to die over being forced to have a child. Why is it surprising?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:48 AM
1

You compare being forced to a war and giving birth to a child, the post is about being forced to a war or being forced into pregnancy and birthing a child. Don't you think there is a difference?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:46 AM
1

So, we respect and appreciate our men. What's your point?
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:21 AM
1

First, right now they don't need new people and if I volunteer, most likely I won't get to the frontline anyway.. Then, they do need money, so keeping my job and donating money actually helps. Second, I'm not going to be very good at being a soldier even if I try super hard. And third, I never said fighting in a war was wonderful. Obviously it's horrible and I wish no one had to go through this. I only said that between a pregnancy and going to a war, I would choose the latter (even though I sti…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 02:12 AM
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We are not comparing pregnancy and conscription, we are comparing forced pregnancy and conscription, both of which are fucked up. And I live in Ukraine and can get unlucky with a Russian missile or a drone anytime, thank you.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:50 AM
1

I'm not trying to downplay what war does to people. I'm just saying that pregnancy is no fun, especially for people who never wanted it.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 01:21 AM
-21

Well, I guess women with poor health are less likely to have kids and also less likely to live long. And people who take care of kids, their own or other, tend to live longer. It doesn't mean childbirth is beneficial to your health. And obviously you aren't going to get your limbs torn off in childbirth, but I don't think I know one woman who went through pregnancy and didn't get her health messed up. A lot of them don't regret it, because they wanted to be a mother, but for people who never wan…
/r/MensRights24/10/22 12:45 AM
-35

Maybe, but it's not only pain or childbirth trauma, pregnancy can and often does seriously mess up your health, physical and mental. I probably would choose it too if it was just pain and I didn't have to spend 18 years of my life taking care of another human being. Although this last part is true for both mothers and fathers, so I guess it's irrelevant here.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:45 PM
-70

You know, conscription sucks and everything, but I would still choose to go fight in a war over pregnancy and childbirth.
/r/MensRights23/10/22 11:32 PM
1

We very often treat adult women as children and it is fucked up and should stop, but I don't think this is an example of it.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 01:19 PM
1

Do you really buy it that he wanted them because of "loving words" from a person who wouldn't give them willingly and he needed to get a court involved to get it from her? Not just to mess with her? And yes, being ordered to give your nudes, even edited, is a bad thing happening
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 01:09 PM
2

I didn't mean literal slavery lol. I just meant that there are valid reasons to end a marriage and we still need ways to end that "lifelong commitment", for both men and women. I'm not arguing with you, I got your point, and I agree that men are treated horribly by the law, not just in divorce, and not just in the US. But I also don't think that any of this applies to the situation in the post (and again, I got that you got it).
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 01:03 PM
2

Not sure how exactly you read my reply and saw "ANGER!!!" there
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 12:47 PM
3

Fair enough, but I don't think getting married should be a way of selling yourself into a lifelong slavery regardless of how your partner treats you.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 12:38 PM
1

Yeah, being condescending, sending a link which implies your opponent is dumb, and not replying to anything they said is a very convincing way of arguing your point.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 12:32 PM
0

I'm not arguing with this, but the statistics says nothing about this particular case where a woman was treated unfairly and had to do something humiliating. Why is it difficult to sympathize with her? And also women initiating 70% of divorces means that in 70% of marriages which ended in divorce, it was a woman who felt she was giving more than receiving.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 12:26 PM
2

What you say is true and it's a good thing people talk about it and hopefully can change that in the future. And unfair treatment of women might be statistically insignificant (although I'm not sure about it), but in this particular case you see an example of something fucked up, and the fact that it doesn't happen often enough doesn't change the fact that it is fucked up. Women get killed by their partners/former partners much more often than men, it doesn't mean that I'm okay with men getting …
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 12:07 PM
-5

So why is it "super difficult" to feel sorry for a woman being treated unfairly in a divorce?
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 11:48 AM
4

You are complaining about all the nasty things women do in divorce to men because the law tends to side with women, and then you cheer for a nasty thing a man does to a woman just because it's legal.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 11:24 AM
-6

Because obviously only women do fucked up shit to their former partners
/r/PussyPassDenied28/09/22 11:18 AM
2

Well, Christianity says "love your neighbor", it doesn't stop some people from being hateful, and they still think of themselves as Christians. More importantly, society considers them Christians and judges Christianity accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:06 PM
2

What exactly is phony behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:33 PM
3

People form opinions on ideologies by observing what their followers do and say. That's why Christianity in America has such a fucked up reputation despite being, in theory, all about kindness and compassion. That's why feminism has a bad reputation now, even though it's supposed to be about equality and helping women, not shitting on men. Same is true about TRP - people see red pillers (not all, but enough of them) hating on women, bragging about manipulating them, preaching double standards, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:09 AM
0

People appreciate someone who is kind and respectful to them. Shocking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:57 AM
2

That just sounds unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:47 AM
1

A lot of men have high libido and also can keep it in their pants. Why would women be different? Being able to control your behavior isn't that weird if you aren't a toddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:32 PM
0

I meant that if you are not fucking a woman, it doesn't mean that you aren't dominant enough or lack willpower. Maybe she just doesn't want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:13 AM
1

There are asexual people, men and women, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:18 PM
1

How would it change anything for a eunuch?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:17 PM
1

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:16 PM
5

Most people appreciate companionship and don't think of it as being used. If you don't enjoy the company of this person, sure you shouldn't be in a relationship with them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:11 PM
6

This biological anthropologist states that sexual needs/feelings and romantic love are two very different things with different brain systems involved (roughly 4:10 in the video) https://youtu.be/6DYgImG1CKo This is why we have different words for asexual and aromatic people. Not sure why some people try to argue that romance and sex are the same and a romantic relationship without sex is impossible or it's just friendship. Romantic love is also different from platonic love, and yes, it's discus…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 10:04 PM
2

Wow, it explains wtf is up with all this friendzone thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 10:26 PM
2

Aw
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 02:07 PM
3

You should try it and you'll know
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 01:38 PM
2

"both have different strengths which typically work together in tandem pretty well. You can shut this cringe-ass sub down now, I won the debate" this is strangely wholesome lol. So rare to find something nice in this sub. I do try to "have sympathy", but to me it's purely theoretical - this person can't have something they want really really badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:12 PM
4

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:30 PM
1

But if they want a relationship and get just sex, they are getting something they don't want and not getting what they want. Does it really count?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:10 AM
2

Women do not resent you if you can't lead them. At least most women. And if you think it's "highly unlikely" that your partner will be more competent in some aspects in your relationship, that means that you aren't as competent in human relationships as you might think
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:04 AM
2

I'm sorry if I misunderstood. Your phrasing sounded to me like you want control in a relationship. Even if you think women require men to be more competent, a person can be more competent in one field and less competent in another. You can offer your ideas to each other, discuss them, and make decisions together. If you feel that you should be the one making decisions, I can ask you the same question you asked earlier - why should you specifically make decisions for both of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:48 AM
5

A man is not always more competent or better at making decisions, especially about relationships. And even if you don't want partnership, but rather want to be a leader, a good leader listens to other people and takes their opinion into account. Leadership is more complicated than just trying to make people obey you, it's about being someone they decide to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:23 AM
4

Agree, but it's also selfish to expect sex from your partner if they don't want it. Irl it's a difficult situation to deal with and I guess both partners need to do something to solve it. But irl you usually start a relationship expecting sex to be a part of it, and if it changes, you need to do something about the situation. In this hypothetical scenario you just need to choose one option, and you know all the details before making your choice. It's honestly disturbing that some men are so quic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:33 PM
6

Both partners are supposed to have the responsibility, and both need to make decisions. You can't expect a woman to be your slave just because you are in a relationship with her, just like she can't expect you to do whatever she wants. If you don't like her decisions or lifestyle, end the relationship and look for someone you are compatible with. Alternatively, try to find out why you feel the need to control another human being to be comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:22 PM
4

Wanting or not wanting is not a decision, it's a feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:16 PM
8

Because I'm not comfortable having an open relationship. If he wants something with another woman, he should break up with me and then have sex/relationship/whatever he wants with her. I also wouldn't have sex out of the relationship if he decided not to have sex with me. Lack of sex is not an excuse to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:34 PM
12

Doing house chores is not the same as having sex when you don't want to. You can make a family member do some chores even if they don't want it. Making someone unwilling have sex is, well, rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:27 PM
11

Imagine you have erectile dysfunction. Or get injured and lose the ability to have sex. Or you get depressed and lose your libido. Or you get some hormonal treatment for whatever and again you lose your libido. Would it be okay if your partner decided to cheat on you in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:57 PM
12

Would you be okay with your partner cheating on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:49 PM
15

She doesn't blackmail you, she just doesn't like sex. And if you are willing to force or manipulate her into it, obviously you don't love her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:44 PM
5

Cheating people*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:40 PM
21

Then just choose A
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:39 PM
5

In 2022
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 11:53 PM
1

Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:26 AM
1

You are reading unfiltered opinions of a very specific type of women though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:12 AM
5

They even took down IncelsWithoutHate which was harmless and basically just a place for them to vent. But a subreddit where the users casually refer to a half of human population as "scrotes" is completely fine apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:18 PM
8

Yeah, really weird how it's impossible to have a safe space to be collectively misandrist without men being unhappy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:11 PM
2

The post is about comparing being used for sex and not having sex, not comparing celibacy and virginity. To a lot of people, not having sex is much better than being used for it. Of course, there are people who think being used is better, like the person I replied to. Their opinion and experience is valid, and so is mine. Not being able to get something you want sucks, but it doesn't mean you can tell other people that this awful experience is worse than their awful experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:01 PM
1

Okay, what exactly do you mean by "celibacy is not virginity"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:44 PM
1

My point was that to some people, including me, being single is perfectly fine and being used for sex is harmful. Feeling undesirable sucks, but it doesn't necessarily have to be "undesirable for sex". Feeling undesirable for anything else except sex can also fuck with your self esteem, and often does. This is a part of what women complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:30 PM
2

Understandable. I wasn't trying to "get you" btw, it was a genuine question, because very often I see this idea that men want to be valued, but then it turns out that being valued for anything other than sex doesn't really count. And it sucks because if I don't want to have sex with someone, it doesn't mean that they are worthless or not valuable. Men are awesome, and this world wouldn't be the same without you guys, your sense of humor, your silliness and your kindness, and a lot of women appre…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:24 PM
1

I don't want a relationship, of course, but if I wanted it, I don't think I would find a compatible partner. And people can offer different things. Companionship, sex, beauty, sense of humor, sense of style, supporting their partner, helping them with everyday things, having children, sharing hobbies, financial security, being best friends, being a good cook, whatever. You need to offer at least something. And I don't think I can offer anything without it getting exhausting pretty quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:49 PM
3

Does "being valued and wanted" for something other than sex count?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:36 PM
1

I have nothing to offer to a man and don't want to sacrifice anything I have right now for the sake of a relationship, and it's unfair to expect a partner to change his life for me without also changing my life for him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:32 PM
0

One short relationship many years ago, no sex, if you need to know. Also I don't think I could find a relationship if I wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:24 PM
1

In my case, it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:15 PM
5

Not being able to get something you desperately want absolutely sucks and I wish women acknowledged it even if they can't truly understand it. I don't understand how it can be so important, but I believe people when they say it's important to them. And then, being able to easily get something you DON'T want is not a privilege or advantage. And this is something I wish men acknowledged. Being able to find a random sex partner doesn't make my life even slightly better because it simply isn't somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:13 PM
3

At the very least you lose time you would rather spend on something interesting/useful. You risk your health / sometimes safety and then you get hurt because being used for whatever is an awful feeling for anyone, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:34 PM
3

Well, it's different for different people. I've been single and alone for well over a decade, and I'm perfectly fine. Being used for sex would probably fuck me up psychologically.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:20 PM
3

Can't fix someone by breaking their neck. Getting them banned on fb could theoretically give them some free time to rethink something
/r/MensRights31/10/21 04:14 PM
1

Doing God's work
/r/MensRights31/10/21 04:00 PM
2

Now I'm curious about white nationalist Facebook groups lol
/r/MensRights31/10/21 03:40 PM
2

Wait, but some people with triple digit IQs like circus. Also can be useful to see how they act and what they say to identify and avoid them irl
/r/MensRights31/10/21 02:57 PM
7

Not to mention that it infantilizes women and demonizes men. Two people get drunk and have sex. Now the woman is this irresponsible child who couldn't possibly make decisions about her own body, and it doesn't matter that she wanted it and consented to it. She can't be responsible for her own decision and her own actions. The man, however, is this monster who just casually ruins other people's lives left and right and should definitely be held accountable for it.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/21 09:45 AM
6

It was their decision and you are not responsible for it. And please keep in mind that there is much more to this life than pleasing people who are trying to manipulate and guilt-trip you. Hope you feel better soon
/r/MensRights18/09/21 09:48 AM
18

This is perfect
/r/MensRights08/08/21 04:04 PM
-12

Oh right, my bad. Maybe she did. But honestly, even in this case if I were that friend, I would consider it a win-win situation
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 12:43 PM
-20

It's no one's "fault". Everything turned out to be alright. And he did ask out the other girl, so I guess if he liked this one, he would probably have asked her.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 12:06 PM
24

So, he married the girl he actually liked and she didn't go on a date with an uninterested person. Sounds like a win-win
/r/PussyPassDenied06/07/21 11:57 AM
3

Believe it or not most of these dudes aren't the monsters you see in the media, most of them are just desperately lonely and depressed but they won't harm anyone. They're more likely to hurt themselves before others. That's what I noticed too. For some reason these guys are demonized for being depressed and feeling miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:03 PM
1

We don't. That's why women are wary of any man they don't know when walking alone at night and not just tall/big men. That's also why we ask men for help when we can't open a jar. Men are stronger because they are men and not because they are bigger, that's just obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 12:47 PM
5

"These women are telling me how they feel, but that doesn't align with what I think about women, so they are probably lying"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 12:05 AM
1

I am a woman who gets no attention from men and it's really nice and peaceful. Definitely better than constant attention from people I don't even know would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 11:44 PM
1

I love your profile picture
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:31 PM
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