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I never said height is everything. I said it's extremely important. It's one of the many things women have insanely high standards in, driving society to 80/20.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 05:46 PM
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Wow! So you used to be red pill when you were a fucking noob. Then you hamstered away and became blue pill. Good job. I understand that you can overcome your height. But it's a huge obstacle to overcome, and its only one of the many obstacles women put your way due to their insanely high standards and entitlement. Sooner or later they've narrowed it down to 20% of men, and you can bet a disproportionate number of those men are tall.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:14 AM
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Yeah for sure. NOt saying its impossible. I'm just saying that the insane standards women have now make it so much harder if you don't meet every criteria. Yeah, insane confidence and money can overcome being short, and being tall and rich can overcome a below average face, and being famous can trump it all, but very few men possess any of these things to the quantity that it will allow them to overcome their shortcomings. So it pushes society further to 80/20
/r/MGTOW19/11/16 04:11 AM
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80% of a woman's worth in the sexual market is her age and looks. She's 20, and appears to look alright. So nowhere close to bottom 10%.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:09 AM
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Nope. Thats how women are like when you aren't there to judge them. I've noticed this whenever I've read female spaces on the internet.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:07 AM
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Well no shit. Understand that exceptions always exist. I'm not saying height permanently excludes you, but it is a huge obstacle to overcome. And women by stating this insane preference for the top 10% of heights, make it so much more difficult for men in the dating market. Short men without confidence or fame or money are doomed, and this further pushes society to 80/20.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:07 AM
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It might be that case sooner or later. It's quite interesting to me that societies where betas have a better chance (India, China because of wealth hypergamy) also have men who are shorter. Even if thats not true, I think it's safe to say that a lot of shitty genes are still around only because our culture of monogamy.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:05 AM
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The amount of men hamstering in this thread is insane. Yes, you can overcome your height. But saying it doesn't mean shit is ridiculous.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:02 AM
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height doesn't mean shit. I agree with you except for this part. This isn't the blue pill. If you want to hamster away about how height doesn't mean shit, go to the blue pill. yes, you can overcome your height, but you are fucking kidding me if you think height doesnt mean shit. That's like saying looks don't mean shit, wealth doesn't mean shit. Confidence doesn't mean shit? Each thing individually doesn't mean shit, but women want the man who possesses all these qualities, and that's the reason…
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 04:00 AM
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Way too many short men hamstering here. Yes, it's not all gloom and doom for us below 6 feet men in the SMV. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that a woman's nature is to desire someone wayyyy outside of her league, the very alpha of alphas. And height is a huge indicator of an alpha. I understand it's hard to swallow. But the red pill is the truth. If you want to hear blue pill bullshit about how height doesn't matter, go to the blue pill subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill19/11/16 03:58 AM
1

No one chases intelligence. You'll have a retarded good looking human race. Which won't be a bad thing really.
/r/TheRedPill18/11/16 10:16 PM
1

Really...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:14 PM
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I've tried to work on it. Every so often I get the desire to try again. Currently don't have it though. As far as I know, she's never tried at all to improve things so idk if she'll be up for counseling or anything. She's kind of an odd person tbh. Kind of lives in her own world. Thanks for the no judgement! Cheating doesn't work well at all... Obviously it's much better to get everything in one packet. But I do it because well, thats the only other alternative. Though honestly, my AP (affair pa…
/r/askMRP26/10/16 04:12 AM
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Wow, four divorces. Sorry about that. Yeah, it's out of question for us because we have a daughter and because my wife is extremely devout Catholic and won't accept a divorce in any case. In her mind we'll still be married so I don't really want to screw her over (and my daughter) by getting a legal divorce. It's not really that bad tbh. I just need sexual release. I do love my wife and I think she loves me. It's just a dead bedroom situation.
/r/askMRP25/10/16 05:38 AM
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I think I tried to work on it. The reason I went red pill in the first place was to try to improve my marriage. I started attracting a lot more women but my wife was still uninterested. If I knew she was like this I wouldn't have married her, but she was a virgin when we married.
/r/askMRP23/10/16 11:56 PM
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Most men are naturally polygamous. See: Coolidge effect. Women are not. A dominant husband doesn't whore his wife to other men, he keeps her loyal. A submissive wife supports her husband in whatever he does. Also, she's always been uninterested in sex, has viewed it negatively from youth. One reason why I stepped out in the first place.
/r/askMRP23/10/16 07:18 AM
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Well, I'm not lucky. I'm not even sure if she's okay with it or just deals with it. I can't really have this conversation with her. If we didn't have a daughter I would just divorce her, though since she's Catholic she wouldn't even accept that and we would still be religiously married. So she will still consider us married. Idk, it's a weird situation. Hah well, I guess that's fine. Being with one partner gets quite dull after a decade though.
/r/askMRP23/10/16 07:16 AM
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Eh, I think my wife already knows and just deals with it. And I'm kind of okay w that arrangement. I wish she was more openminded, Im ready to allow her to date other women just like I do, but she won't accept, so whatever.
/r/askMRP21/10/16 09:15 PM
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My wife is too selfish to accept a one way open relationship
/r/askMRP20/10/16 03:27 AM
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Its wrong to be in a marriage in the first place, from a mans perspective. So now that I am in a marriage, what's the best thing I can do? I don't see cheating as something bad from a man's perspective. Monogamy is fucked up for a man. Cheating is something I do out of necessity because my biological drive is to be polygamous, but I'm in a monogamous relationship.
/r/askMRP20/10/16 03:24 AM
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Yeah. The way I see it is that since females have a lower sex drive, poly for them is different. Its more about wanting to feel that NRE again, and they can do that with other women without losing respect for their main partner.
/r/TheRedPill20/10/16 03:22 AM
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Eh, I messed up. I thought this sub was endorsing Red Pill marriage, but from what I understand, its more to help people already trapped in this shit. And thats fine. But no man outside of marriage should ever fall into this trap. Men are naturally polygamous. My wife is actually quite good at being a wife, but even then its a shitty arrangement for me, and the way I deal with it is by fucking other women.
/r/askMRP20/10/16 03:20 AM
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Only because I am in this situation now. But I misunderstood this sub, I thought it was advocating RP marriages, but this sub is mostly for men who have already made this mistake to try to avoid getting fucked over by their wives. But yeah, I wouldn't marry if I knew how fucked monogamy was for men. I still believe in marriage, because its the best way to raise a family, but I believe marriage should either by polygynous or open on the male's end.
/r/askMRP17/10/16 08:58 AM
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I feel this is highly unrealistic and doesn't factor in how strong cultural influence is over the brain. A primal, non civilized woman? Sure, if I was more red pill, she would not mind sharing. A very firm Catholic woman? No way.
/r/askMRP17/10/16 08:55 AM
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This exactly. There is one more alternative: Go to a patriarchal society (Asia or Islamic countries) get married there and pray feminism doesnt find itself there. But it'll reach there eventually.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 07:16 PM
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All women are heartless cunts to betas. See niceguys subreddit for proof
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 05:37 PM
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It's beta as fuck though. I fuck other women, but I'll castrate myself before I willingly let my wife fuck other men
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 04:56 PM
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This proves to you just how fucked up men nowadays have become. They will tolerate their wife fucking other men in the name of feminism. Fuck that. I'm down for polyamory, but only or men. Harems are natural, women fucking multiple men is not natural.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/16 04:54 PM
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Yeah except the manager of a baseball team gets paid. This guy pays to be the manager.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 01:01 AM
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Yep, definitely. I've been with several women who seem to love the fact that I'm married. Its preselection
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 09:37 PM
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you respect women you tend to have more of them around who will want you. There is a difference between 'respecting' and putting on a pedestal.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 09:37 PM
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As per Rollo Tomassi asking for exclusivity is beta and shows lack of options Not really, I don't agree with that. You being exclusive is beta, but her having to be monogamous doesnt make you beta.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 05:07 PM
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Im not mad at the women. They are doing their thing. im not mad at the chads fucking them either. Im mad at the husbands
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 04:35 PM
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So? I was trying to post it here but it kept getting removed because of links. So i posted it there instead until i realized i had to use archive.is
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 02:30 PM
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Indeed. But if I had to choose between the two Id go w the landwhale. Itd rather not make the choice at all.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 12:47 PM
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I think combine that with her introverted, shy personality, the fact that she's always had a kind of fucked up mentality about sex in the first place (which is why I stepped out I guess) and the fact that shes a rural girl, and that's what makes me certain. Not just religion per se.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 12:46 PM
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Seems like a logical conclusion given the implications of doing so then and the patriarchal system. Pretty sure women dont cheat as much in Islamic countries.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 03:57 AM
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Yeah thats k. Religion is something that can turn a woman into a decent person... sometimes.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 03:52 AM
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True that. I went there expecting some discussion on harems, as that is the sort of relationship I would like with my wife and gf. However, that is called misogynistic there
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 02:49 AM
0

True. I believe the third one is an actual cuck, the first two are betas.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 02:34 AM
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True, even luck doesnt help with 0% chance
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 02:05 AM
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ahahahah. Good luck with that. You can probably find 18 yo virgins quite easily in the Middle East and Asia. Even 14 yo virgins would be quite rare in Germany .
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:57 AM
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True, though I will say I doubt these guys can get other women. 1 and 3 clearly are in a one way poly relationship.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:56 AM
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I was expecting polyamory, not cucks. But the majority there seem to have unwillingly agreed to their wives decision to be poly. Its fucked.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:41 AM
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If you want to marry, go to Asia. I mean, sure, they are only faithful because of your money, but still, at least they know the deal. But if you decide to go down that route, you will have to LIVE in East Asia, or an Islamic country. Only there do men have proper rights in marriage.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:39 AM
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No.. that's ridiculous. AWALT is true, but that doesnt mean women wont act differently if they have an incentive to. For example, women in the past did not cheat as often as they do now, because the social implications, the financial considerations, and religious and cultural obligations forced them to go against their nature. My wife does not work, and she is extremely religious. She's not a unicorn, but she is rare.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:37 AM
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oh yeah, for sure. If you are both non-committal, then whatever. Couldn't give less of a fuck what she does.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 01:10 AM
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Well yes, thats true. #2 is pretty much actually poly, though I think even poly men wouldnt put up w their wife getting pregnant and then letting the father hang around the house. Still, he's probably the least pathetic.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:10 AM
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They could be hot, but I'm sure they are hitting the wall either way.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:05 AM
1

I've read up on polyamory. I'm actually all for it. I think men should fuck more than one woman for the marriage to be stable, and I think it might even be a good idea for the woman to be able to see other women. But these guys are not polyamorous. They are cucks.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:04 AM
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I don't know how to reach to them, I tried PMing them and one replied to me calling me a misogynist. So they really are past the point of return. There isnt any hope.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:03 AM
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Nah, I think they are all men and telling the truth. Its beyond fucked up though. Men in general (all men, alphas and betas) are less inclined to divorce because it doesnt make sense for us to fuck over our children like that. For a beta with no pride, he probably would not divorce in this situation.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 01:01 AM
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Exactly. Thats the reason I was there at the first place, but got screamed at for being a misogynist since I dont want other men fucking my wife.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 12:59 AM
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Definitely. I don't think its too close to the future, because even most betas I know wouldnt put up with this - YET. This type of behavior is currently being promoted by women, look at the responses towards the third guy - 'wow you are suchhh a nice guy! I wish I had a husband like you! (who would let me fuck other men lol)' So slowly more and more betas are becoming like this.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 12:35 AM
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True, the first guy was afraid of asking his wife for a paternity test, and was only convinced to ask her after the members told him that it would be cruel to the guy shes fucking if he didn't tell him that he has a child with his wife. So for the sake of the guy his wife is fucking, he's gonna ask for a paternity test. Wtf?
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 12:33 AM
1

I'd still go with the faithful land whale. I've got my pride. Oh wait... betas dont have any...
/r/TheRedPill08/10/16 12:30 AM
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Dude some things are just common sense. Having your wife get pregnant with some other dudes child and having to pay for that child while she continues fucking that chad is always gonna feel pretty shitty.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 09:20 PM
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The guys who get into these situations are betas, and they obviously want to fuck other women, but forget that its much much easier for women to get sex than men, especially beta men. So the majority of these men hardly find any women to fuck, and even when they do their wife usually doesn't approve so they stop.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 08:51 PM
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Ehhh idk. Number 1 and 2 seem pretty miserable. Number 3 seems to a happy cuck though.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:38 PM
6

Yes, within marriage anyway. Although some poly couples have an OPP (one penis policy) that I would also be okay with. Dont mind if my wife or gf are seeing some ladies.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:37 PM
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It does mean that they are cucks though.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:35 PM
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Hah what? You think they are happy that their wives are getting pregnant from chads while they pay for the child and get no sex at all?
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 08:14 PM
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I don't mind it either. With any fwb I have, I dont expect or give a fuck about her committing to me. Shes obviously fucking others and it doesnt matter. But this isn't that. These guys are literally supporting their wives emotionally and financially, while not getting fucked, not fucking anyone else, and having their wives slut around all day. Its insane.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 07:59 PM
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They have the wrong frame. If they do it, they will be considered rapists. Its fucked up but thats how women work.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 05:47 PM
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Women love being dominated. This is something betas will never understand.
/r/TheRedPill07/10/16 03:12 PM
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I'll give you guys 6 more months. Then she'll leave your naive Beta ass and it would be a smart thing to do
/r/TheRedPill13/05/16 07:08 AM
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You told her that you are going to cheat because she has BRP? While she's pregnant? You can understand why none of us support you on this. Look, you want to stay with her but it's too difficult because she's batshit crazy. That's fine, but actually telling her that you are going to cheat and if she doesn't like it, leave because she has BPD is just retarded. My advice: just see other women behind her back and be discreet about it. You are a man, men can compartmentalize relationships, you can fu…
/r/askMRP13/05/16 03:12 AM
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Because alpha is a state of mind.
/r/askTRP04/05/16 03:11 AM
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I was studying engineering in college, I didn't really get the chance to experience all that then. It doesn't get worse afterwards. You can get a masters and go to college again. You can go to clubs, build strong social circles. It doesn't really go downhill.
/r/askTRP03/05/16 10:04 AM
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Don't get obsessed with your number. What is this, new woman a month thing? If you are enjoying sex with a woman, keep on doing so (while avoiding oneitis.) If she's boring you, discard her and find another.
/r/askTRP03/05/16 10:02 AM
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Not a single attractive woman there
/r/TheRedPill29/04/16 09:24 AM
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In the past women who were regularly disciplined by their husbands were far happier and far less likely to divorce. It's the best and most straightforward way to assert your dominance in the relationship. A good spanking definitely helps children, and it would help in marriages too.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/16 07:17 AM
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I feel you. My wife made me feel terrible for so many years but I stuck around for my kids. My relationship is much better now, but only because of the changes I made in myself. It's hard to get over the years of misery this woman made me go through. Love is ALWAYS conditional, so back when you were a Beta she didn't take care of your needs and wants because she likely harbored resentment towards you. Now that you have improved you have 'earned' her love. It's not just our wives. It's all women.…
/r/askMRP24/03/16 02:35 AM
1

"One was a drunk girl who seemed totally down for sex, but I rejected her since she was too drunk and would probably press rape charges the next morning. I had her number so I called her the next morning and she told me not to call her again." LOL that summarizes modern women well. A beta fucks them, then its rape. Beta asks gentlemanly towards them, then they tell him to fuck off. Either way, they will treat betas like filth.
/r/askTRP14/03/16 10:09 PM
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I meant Persian women really. But yknow as soon as any of these women properly assimilate, they will exhibit the same rapid aging. I think it's a combination of all the booze, junk food, stress and - this may be superstitious but whatever - promiscuity. I go to university for my masters. I see girls there 18-23. And they look completely different from the women I see around my neighborhood in their late 20s early 30s. Even those college girls, it's easy to distinguish a freshman from a sophomore…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:18 PM
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You are hamstering. She may be lying, but she may not be. Point is, it is in your best interest to leave this slut either way.
/r/askTRP07/02/16 08:13 PM
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Not sure what it is. Probably the western diet + western life. Hence why white women decline the fastest. Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern women hardly decline. It's difficult to physically tell the difference between a 25 yo and 20 yo for these races. For white girls it's absolutely possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:15 PM
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You think there isn't a difference between how a 28 year old and a 20 year old look? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:16 PM
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Maybe in Asian women. White women decline rapidly after college. All the fucking and partying takes its toll.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 09:16 PM
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Her attractiveness slowly decreases from 21 onwards, but her SMV certainly falls off a cliff at 30. 29 just sounds much better than 31, even though women at both ages look similar. 29 has much higher SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:54 AM
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Of course not. She has no sense of judgement or responsibility and is likely a slut with no brains. Okay for a fuck but nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:11 AM
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Okay. Well, you can do that later, but yeah you do get more responsibilities later, and you have to face that like a man. Life's not just about getting wasted, and there's only so long you can do that for before saying, 'yo what the fuck am I doing with me life.' Personally, I studied engineering in university, I had a pretty hard time. I enjoyed post-college more. Working, being able to spend my own money on my crib and on traveling. Was pretty fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 10:52 AM
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It's much rarer in those countries. Islamic countries have the lowest rate of rape in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 10:50 AM
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College is a phase. It's a good time (for most, not if you are in engineering or trying to get into med school) but eventually you have to prepare for the real world. TRP is about real life. Yeah, post-college you won't be able to have wild parties every weekend and meet 18-22 year olds every single day, but you can party every so often and meet 22-26 year olds every single day (who are fine as well.) I feel like many guys at the red pill are upset at having missed out on young pussy and party l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 07:05 AM
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No, more men would not rape. Rape has little to do w that. Most men are moral enough to not rape
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 07:45 PM
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Before the red pill, my wife wouldn't have sex w me. I tolerated that but cheated on her instead. Now our relationship is much better. What women don't get is that TRP assigns blame on the man, and encourages him to change. It is mutually beneficial, but most women are too brainwashed to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 04:56 AM
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Girls prefer to date in their own age range with guys with similar life experiences as them. Go figure. I understand that late bloomers love to lament over this fact, but fuck it. The relentless obsession with fucking HB8 or above college girls is unhealthy. Imo, the best way to get with a HB8 or above in that age range is to go foreign. Eastern Europe, latin america or, even better, East Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:04 PM
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I'm dating a college girl. Probably not HB8 and not in a sorority either. If you are going for the tip top, then good luck my friend. You are up against young, testosterone filled college alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 09:07 AM
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Genius. IF ONLY I had read this when I was 19. Similar story as you. Had a devout Catholic friend, ended up getting closer and she agreed to come to my house. Had I read this then, I would have stayed away from the crazy bitch, but I was 19 and stupid, and ended up sleeping with her. Two days later, find out her parents found out and she's pressing rape charges. Her parents eventually dropped the charges but I didn't get that time and cash for the lawyer back. If only I had this advice then.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/16 04:17 AM
1

1 in 5 women report having been sexually assaulted in their lifetime. Not 1 in 5 report being raped every year. I know. If 1 in 5 women have been raped, then to find a reasonably accurate estimate of rapes per year (in order to make that true) you say okay, 1 in 5 women is 30,000,000, if these women were raped in their lifetime then in the last, say, ~50 years they were raped. Thats 500,000 a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 05:20 PM
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For Men: * Tattoos? No Piercings? No, only on ear. Heavy drug or alcohol use? Fuck No Drive really fast, or engage in very dangerous activities? No Aggressive? No Fight or like to fight? No Have been, or are apart of organized crime? No
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 08:09 AM
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The salt is real. Lol, they are probably slightly paranoid, but they can hide that. Raped women are so traumatized that it's almost impossible for them to hide that they are damaged goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:57 AM
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It's a fact of life that most women are lying over their rape stories. It's just a side effect of societies over-glorification of rape 'survivors.' Many of those 'survivors' just fucked a guy then regretted it, or had rough sex they didn't like (ex: the mattress girl over in Columbia) or had sex while drunk. In the rare case they were actually raped, they were probably standing around alone at 1 AM with a skimpy dress on. AND even if she was a victim, she was so psychologically and physically ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:36 AM
1

1 in 5 women claim to have been raped. Thaat would mean around 500,000 a year. Actual stats show 84,000 a year, most of which aren't even rape. So 5 in 6 rape victims are actually frauds and liars. And as for the 1 in 6 who actually was a victim, she was probably wandering drunk in the projects with a cocktail dress on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 07:21 AM
1

I don't think its possible for her to become a normal person. You can't undo rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 12:43 AM
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Well, no. Some men will probably have to settle for her. Doesn't mean they don't have a problem with her rape history. They just have to deal with it as the other women are taken. She's the leftovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 11:33 PM
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It's not a matter of preference, it's common sense. Most people would not prefer to date someone with severe psychological problems and a very troubled past over a normal person. That's just the way things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 10:25 PM
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Not really. TRP teaches that sexual strategy should be focused on your individual pleasure. Morality doesn't come into it. After all, woman's dating strategy is highly immoral (thus why 75% of women say they wouldn't date an unemployed man.) Dating a rape victim is likely to backfire on you. If someone was acting purely on self interest he'd rather date the girl without rape problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:19 PM
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Well, first, most rape victims are faking anyway. She says she got raped but it's actually most likely that she got drunk and had sex with someone she didn't want to. Hardly something to be traumatized about. It's not always 'of course not their fault' either. But otherwise good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:54 PM
1

Hmm, you are actually right I suppose. Males and females alike just don't want to hear about male rapes, not even on the manosphere. People will talk about how no one talks about it, but no one wants to share about it either. They are too insecure about what happened and that is a problem. Females before also would not share being raped. So if that's changed maybe this can as well if people actually gave it attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:59 AM
1

It was fine, nothing happened to me since the girl's parents dropped it. And I'm actually cool with the girl now too. She was just a really fucking bit idiot who was way too scared of her fucking father. I was scared back then though. And seriously it was fucked up how disadvantaged I was during the whole case. I don't see why you say RP glosses over it though. I think a large part of why men here have such little sympathy for rape victims here is because feminism has over-glorified rape victims…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:40 AM
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I'm not okay with huffpost. I linked to it because I wasn't suggesting the 1 in 5 statistic is true. RP does address how no one cares about male rape, and that it's a big problem. No one cares about false rape accusations either. Hell, I was falsely accused myself way back when I was 19 by a religious girl when her parents found out. False rape accusations don't get tracked by stats. My case was false but it ended up being dropped as inconclusive, not listed as false.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:20 AM
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The 1 in 5 claim http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/rape-in-america-cdc-study_n_5784686.html The claim has since been repeated everywhere. The actual figures: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/violent-crime/rape
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 06:10 AM
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There are around 160,000,000 women in the US. 1 in 5 would be 32,000,000 raped over the course of their.. lets say average is 50, 50 years. That's 640,000 a year. Some were raped twice so it's even higher than that. The actual reported rapes to the Bureau of Justice in 2007 was 84,035. Many of them were men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:58 AM
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1 in 5 women claim to be raped. That would be around 500,000 rapes a year. Actual speculated rape is around 100,000. Every 5th woman is telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:47 AM
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I like how you automatically assumed that all, or most, men back then were abusive. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:23 AM
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Not really. Most Western women sleep around a bit. I don't think any of us would mind marrying a woman with a notch count around 5 or even higher. A rape 'victim' is completely different though. She's psychologically damaged. That was OP's point. Her mind will never be able to get the rapist out of her head. You have no business being in a relationship w her Plus if she's lying (which she likely is) she's a huge fraud and a drama queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 05:10 AM
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A man had a slight advantage in a (very) few areas of business in some places, sure. But women had much more advantages in almost every other area of life. The common man in old times had to work his ass off for over a dozen hours a day just to make a measly earning so that he could feed his wife (who, naturally, didn't do any work) and children. And meanwhile, he had to live in constant fear of being conscripted and sent to war to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 04:59 AM
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It's not being an asshole, it's being 'amoral.' All sexual strategy is amoral and self-serving. Would I date a rape victim? No. Would I fuck her? Yes, as long as she doesn't expect emotional connection. Does that mean I'm an asshole? Maybe, but really it's just being practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 12:47 AM
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This is what men want from women. MOST men. Seriously, if sex robots which looked and fucked exactly like women but never talked back to you or talked about all their fucking problems existed then 90% of men would never look at a woman again. So yeah, women want a wealthy good looking alpha man and men want trophy wives. that's the way things are just deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/16 12:23 AM
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Naa, not on Married Red Pill. Not on the red pill that much either. Spinning plates is fine cause you don't owe sluts monogamy. But your wife is different. Polygyny is fine, that's actually alpha as fuck, and I guess that's what they support (fucking other women, and your wife/gf KNOWS you are fucking other women.) But hiding behind her and fucking others is beta pussy behavior. i'm not planning on being monogamous w my wife, but I'm not gonna hide anymore either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 10:24 PM
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You misunderstood me. I was stepping out when I was blue pill. Hiding behind your wife and having sex with other women is not alpha at all. It's deceitful - a womanly thing to do, not manly at all. I had given up on my marriage cause I blamed my wife. TRP actually first tells you that it's YOUR fault. See all the threads blaming men for being beta chumps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 10:08 PM
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hmm. I actually found the red pill because my wife stopped having sex w me so I had to step out and find it elsewhere. But now I know that she didn't do that because of her own problems but because she didn't see me as an alpha. Our relationship is getting better and TRP is making me a better person. So there ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:48 PM
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Damaged people produce damaged relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:18 PM
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It's not about what you did, it's about how that event changed you. A rape victim suffers from many psychological problems as a result of what happened to him/her. Regrettable, but it's not our job to make them feel better. I don't want to be emotionally involved w an unstable person, so a rape victim is only good as a plate, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:43 PM
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Yeah, rape victims often seek validation. Lesson learnt? Don''t date rape victims. Certainly dont get engaged to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:33 PM
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And then you left him. Happy ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 07:58 PM
4

Makes sense. Women are hired for youth and looks, men hired for skills and experience. Only problem here is that women don't know that's the way it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:52 PM
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Yes of course. You will likely spend more years with your wife than any other person. She is certainly family.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:49 PM
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Well, I haven't written a thesis on the Rwandan genocide, because that's not my field. I went to college for a more useful subject. I know about it though, quite a disgusting event. One girl of about 10 had her throat slashed and several fingers chopped off in a massacre in a church. She crawled under her dead mom to hide and survive. Afterwards she survived for weeks just in that church, dodging the dogs and looters until she was rescued. Disgusting, but highly irrelevant. The thing about blue …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:23 PM
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Not really lie. Like, even if she is expecting a relationship you shouldn't enter one with her. Have sex, but otherwise keep your distance. Seek your own pleasure, you are not accountable for her problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:50 PM
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I'm not trying to be stoic or a badass. Seriously, it actually makes me sad how amoral women's sexual strategy is. But to even the scales men have to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:47 PM
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It doesn't, but women will perceive him as weak. Thats why you aint w them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:46 PM
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Fine, ask them if they'd prefer a girl who claims to be a rape 'victim' or a girl who hasn't been raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:47 AM
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Nothing. No woman would ever date a raped man and you know it. Women's sexual strategy is very amoral. They ignore, use and cuckold military vets because they have PTSD and won't make ideal partners in the long run. But God forbid men are equally amoral in choosing their partners. Truth is rape victims are not ideal partners as a gf or even a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:31 AM
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Nearly every man who posted here said no, they wouldn't date a rape victim. It's not just me. So there ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:25 AM
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Google it. It's rape. or at least, rape is up there (in the top 5)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:24 AM
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That sounds like a unicorn. Most rape victims will try to use their experience to make you feel sorry for them and get you to commit to them, and after that (since they are psychologically unstable) you are fucked. Solution is to use her physically until she expects emotional connection, after which bail and never see her again. Which seems to have worked for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:23 AM
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This basically. Use her physically, but don't get emotionally involved at all, not even as a friends with benefits. No doubt rape 'victims' are going to try to emotionally manipulate you into feeling sorry for them and committing to them, and once you've done that you are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:19 AM
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No amount of vetting will fix her psychological state. She won't ever trust you. There's no reason to come close to them other than fuck and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 08:16 AM
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NO man would want to date a raped woman. I'm sorry if that makes you feel insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 07:18 AM
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You wouldn't like him how he is, because in the back of your mind you will always think that he's a weakling. That's how women work. If your bf/husband comes tomorrow to tell you he's been raped, you will at first show immense concern. Then a couple months later, you'll bail, cause you can't stand knowing your man is not dominant. AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:44 AM
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You wouldn't date a man who has been raped. Don't be hypocritical. You don't want a weak man, we don't want damaged goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:19 AM
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33 is old as fuck. No self-respecting man will go over 30, and preferably will stay within the 18-23 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 06:18 AM
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I wouldn't either. But male veterans often learn to be very, very alpha. You can't get more alpha than a Navy SEAL, for example. And even their PTSD often manifests itself in anger, violence and explosiveness, all traits that ironically attract women. Anyway, you could be right. A woman is probably best not being in an LTR with a vet. Shouldn't pass fucking them though, just as I wouldnt pass fucking a rape victim if she was attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:54 AM
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The rapist aint an alpha. An alpha doesn't need to rape, though they often get framed for it since they fuck and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:27 AM
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According to RAINN, 1 in 5 women is raped. Does that seem likely? Also according to them sex with a drunk woman is rape. If a woman regrets sex then it's rape. Also, I don't believe in marital rape but apparently they do. Altogether its much more rare than they make it out to be. Completely without blame would be being attacked in a safe area in either day or night while wearing modest clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 05:14 AM
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Naa not at all. I just recently swallowed the pill, but I understand this point. Woman's sexual strategy is completely amoral, thats a fact, and TRP teaches men that, contrary to beta conditioning, that our sexual strategy needs to be amoral too. Fuck the white knights, I aint dating a rape victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:43 AM
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That's what they should do. OP mentioned a girl referring to herself as a rape survivor. Once I hear that, I'm gonna bail. She should try her best to keep it a secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:33 AM
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Find stats that prove otherwise. Honor killings are a deterrent to rape. Argue about it if you wish but it's the truth. I am not advocating it, but some form of punishment should be implemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:26 AM
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On the BMI chart, your female should be right on the line between underweight and healthy weight (obviously the chart is biased for women.) That would set her target weight at 43 kg - 94 pounds. Less, if you desire, but no more. You should make that clear to her that those are your expectations otherwise you can and will find another woman. Best way to make her lose weight is to monitor her calories. If she's at 105 and you want her to lose 0.5 per week until she gets to 92, she cannot be allowe…
/r/MarriedRedPill16/01/16 04:23 AM
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Not after the US invasion and regime change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:16 AM
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Only a few weeks after taking the red pill and I'm already feeling more happy with my life. My marriage is improving. My overall confidence has increased. I'm much more comfortable and successful in approaching young women etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:13 AM
-37

Numerous studies have shown that the NUMBER ONE fantasy for women is....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:08 AM
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Yes they do. In a country like Afghanistan, if your family members find out you are pregnant (whether through 'rape' or fucking) you will be killed, but if you can prove rape to authorities you will be kept safe. Bottom line is that rape in these countries is more rare than it is here. Women here often seek rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:08 AM
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Does plate mean fuck and dump? Still kind of new to this red pill thing. Cause I would think a rape 'survivor' would be perfect for that kinda thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 04:06 AM
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Military vets? Fucking really?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:59 AM
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No, women DO report their rapes to the government because if they get pregnant they will be killed, but the government can take care of them. The reason there are less rapes there is women there don't dress provocatively, go out at night, go to parties and get drunk etc. They don't fuck a man, regret it, then claim rape. they know all these things will end up badly for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:56 AM
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As w most people here you are making the mistake of assuming that men and women are the same. For a man, being raped is traumatizing because his manliness and his own dominance is being crushed. No man has dreams of being raped. However, MOST women fantasize about it. Rape is infinitely worse for a man than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:51 AM
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You will notice that countries where honor killings are widespread have a very low rate of rape. Women are far less likely to seduce men and then claim rape when they will be killed as punishment. I'm not saying we should kill rape-victims, no way, but we do need some deterrent for framing rape (which most rapes are.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:45 AM
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Absolutely no way in hell. Actual rape (where the woman is completely without blame) is actually quite rare. When it happens, it's horrific, and it damages a person permanently. The woman will no longer be a potential partner for any self-respecting man ever. On the other hand, she would be great for a one night stand. But I wouldn't call her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:39 AM
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Many women actually enjoy rape (as evidenced by the vast majority of women who have rape fantasies) so honor killings actually serve as a very practical deterrent for women to avoid being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 03:26 AM
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You didn't keep her as a plate. You gave her too much time, now she has ideas of being your LTR and is using rape to shame you into being with her. The only thing to do now is to dump her. She won't be satisfied with just sex. Besides, she's far too unstable to be around even for casual sex. About no other plates... If you managed to get one HB7 you can do it again, there are so many bitches out there who aren't damaged goods.
/r/askTRP
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You don't want to deal with the baggage that comes w a rape victim. Even as a plate. If you are feeling guilty then think about it like this: she needs some faithful beta cuck to take care of her, not you.
/r/askTRP
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