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It always throws me for a loop whenever someone clearly just doesn't know anything about how things are for us. He must be just talking about white people or other races that aren't black lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:02 AM
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Why would you believe anyone when they tell you an entire gender is "unshallow" and completely made up of good people? That's so obviously false, I don't understand why you would believe that in the first place. Women never "promised that giving them more would be better for men", the fight has always been for equality even if some bad actors take it to the extreme. What do you mean by "giving women more will make things better for men"? What was promised to be made better for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:40 AM
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Also some people have eating disorders and/or other mental disorders that make it hard to have a healthy relationship with food. It's really easy to look at someone unhealthy and say "just put the fork down" without understanding why that's not possible or extremely hard for someone in mental crisis. That's like telling someone that's depressed to just stop being sad, it may look easy to outsiders but you never really know what people are going through internally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:38 PM
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This analogy doesn't work at all. You're comparing apples to oranges. Social interaction is necessary for a child's development, without it they could end up with severe developmental disorders or even die. The consequences of lack of sex for a grown man are completely different from a child being stranded, I can't believe you're even trying to compare the two. A fully grown adult is not going to face developmental disorders from not having sex because sex is not a physical need and because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:08 PM
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I'm confused about what your point is? I don't understand what you're talking about in the first two paragraphs. Obviously anybody in a relationship is responsible for making sure their partner feels appreciated whether they're banging or not. Did something I said imply I believe it's anyone other than a partner's responsibility to make them feel valued or are you making a separate point? I feel like that goes without saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:26 PM
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Yeah I get that! Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part but for right now I'd prefer to just wait it out until I find someone that I don't need to compromise on my values for and that doesn't need to compromise on theirs for me. I think that's a healthier way to go about a relationship. But anyways thanks for the convo and happy thanksgiving if you celebrate!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:30 PM
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I don't think it's about male or female nature, different people have different values and things! There are plenty of men out there that don't prioritize sex or care all that much about n count and all and plenty of women that value casual sex or don't care to wait etc etc. I think it's just a matter of finding someone with compatible values.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:26 PM
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No I get what you're saying! I also think using it as a shit test isn't the most effective process in the world. Waiting in and of itself isn't symbolic of being more trustworthy but it does weed out a good few of the guys that are only in it for sex. Im not sure about the numbers but for a lot of women, waiting isn't a means of gaining trust, it's just a means of building trust before having sex. I'm sure there are also plenty of people that think the other way though and I wish them luck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:11 PM
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Yeah I heard you, I understand what you're saying. That's fine and valid that you feel that way, I was just trying to share my perspective of why some women prefer to wait even if she didn't in the past and I guess stating the obvious that there is just a lack of compatability there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:04 PM
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I just said "it's not about thinking they're a liar or not, I just don't want to sleep with someone I don't know all that well". It's not a shit test for me, it's a period of building connection and trust and any man that doesn't want to is free to leave. I typically don't give strangers my trust freely or give them the benefit of the doubt in any situation. I wouldn't ask a stranger to watch my wallet for me, it's kind of the same thing. A shit test would be doing so to see how they would react…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:57 PM
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Sorry about point one, my wording could've been better. I understand exactly what you're saying but I'll clarify my point: the men that you're talking about are not on the radar for most women that prefer to wait. The two are simply not compatible which is the part of the reason why women want to wait, to weed out those guys from the type of men they actually want to be with. Just like you don't want to be with that kind of woman, that kind of woman also doesn't want to be with you. The solution…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:34 PM
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Well good thing "waiting to have sex" doesn't mean that a woman will never have sex with a guy that she's in a relationship with ever! I have a hard time believing that every man in the entire world cares more about sex than everything else in a relationship and I and a lot of other women just dont want to be with men that hold those values. Which is fine, people want what they want and sometimes people just aren't compatible. I personally prefer to form a relationship on the basis of commitment…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:20 PM
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Women are also bringing so much more to the table for guy #2, commitment, time, resources (maybe not as much as the guy in some cases but the point holds), effort that she's not giving to guy #1. The point is that she sees more in guy #2 and wants to mutually invest more with him. Guy #1 only 'gets' sex once or a few times and nothing else, guy #2 'gets' sex and commitment, her time, energy, effort, etc etc after a brief period of waiting and getting to know each other. I don't see how that's ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:48 PM
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You can't just immediately trust someone you don't know, or at least I can't. That's the point of dating, to get to know someone and build trust. I would never expect a guy I date to blindly trust me immediately and I probably wouldn't trust him if he did. That's a very naïve thing to do. But with that being said i prefer to wait now because i want to have a connection (and built trust) with someone before I sleep with them. It's not about thinking they're a liar or not for me, I just don't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 02:34 PM
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Not trying to disregard the research I was just sharing my personal preferences, not saying that the research is supposed to account for every woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:14 AM
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Yeah that's why I said not trying to disregard the research, because I'm a woman and I don't find that body type the most attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:13 AM
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Then don't invest in people that don't invest in you? Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:20 AM
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Are you guys being romantic with people you don't know? I don't understand what the problem is lol. You don't have to be all that creative for a first or second date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 12:18 AM
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But who are you to tell me whether or not I am content in my own life? I'm not telling you "no you're content even though you're single and don't particularly want to be" so why do the same to me? You don't know how anyone feels except for yourself, how can you make the broad statement that nobody is content being single just because you aren't? I'm perfectly content with my relationship status even though I'd enjoy something else. Maybe we are arguing over definitions, content means in a state …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:57 PM
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Not trying to disregard the research but I'm not super into that type. I like a husky body type mainly but my attraction to guys mostly depends on compatibility. I've dated skinny, husky, and everything in between and been attracted to all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:26 PM
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Okay but what's the difference between a guy that's happy and a guy that's unhappy? What's the difference between a red fish and a blue fish? This sub has really been off the rails lately. Mods should really pin a mental health resources post at the top
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:12 PM
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It's possible. Just because it's not possible for you doesn't mean that applies for the entire population, your feelings don't dictate those of everyone else. I'm single and would love to be in a relationship, i feel lonely sometimes same as everyone else but I'm still content being by myself. I'm not living every day thinking about the fact that I don't have a partner, it just is what it is and it's fine to me. I think it would be nice to have someone to share my life with but it's not a necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:09 PM
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Yes I agree. What does that have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:48 PM
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Maybe that's why romance is dead, because some guys think that getting swiped yes on online dating means she already likes them and they only care about romance if it means they can get something out of it. I think romance isn't and can't be dead to those that actually care about romance for romance's sake
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:40 PM
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I don't think that's what people are usually referring to when they say "the bar". It's not dependent on what most people are or aren't doing or can or can't do, it's more of a label for "the minimum requirement". Examples of a low bar would be a man treating you with basic decency, being nice to you, caring about you, etc and a high bar would be a man covering all of your expenses, taking care of you to the point where you don't have to do anything, etc. It's fixed and doesn't change in my unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:20 PM
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You think that low of men? That if they're clearing "the bar", it must be low? How is this thinking any different from the men are trash crowd?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:41 PM
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I'm not the person you asked but no I don't go around with a checklist and pen analyzing the behavior of every man. It's more about how we vibe together. It's not like every facet of a man is on display as soon as you meet him and it's not like I have a rigid set of criteria to judge them. People aren't that black and white so I don't make black and white rules. That's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 12:32 PM
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Im also not redpill, as I think the idea of labeling yourself in that way is pretty silly. Yeah I agree mainstream liberal feminism is popular in the culture but there's a reason why I said some feminist stuff is, some isn't. I'm not sure if mainstream culture is anti-male as much as it is anti-conservative ideals which include a lot of behaviors that men typically engage in. Wasn't the Gillette ad just saying that men need to start calling bad behavior out instead of brushing it off with "boys …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:43 PM
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Probably chainsaw if I had to choose
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:16 PM
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Idk probably a combination of both and maybe a little of just looking for a boogeyman to explain away their problems sometimes. I do sometimes see guys on here complaining about behaviors that typically only teenagers participate in. It's so wild to me, the "touch grass" saying should be followed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:54 PM
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I don't think it happens that often. Redpill stuff for example, definitely not mainstream or representative of society's views. Some feminist stuff is, some isn't. Feminism preaches about women's right to bodily autonomy yet elected officials passed a bill to strip that away. Gossip shows talking about how men are assholes for not being attracted to certain people isn't that widely held of a view in society, at least not where I live. Most people don't care who random people are or aren't attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:49 PM
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So you think it's okay for people to feel entitled to everyone they're attracted to? And you see no problem with the hypocrisy of only wanting a partner that has achieved more than you (general you)? Nothing wrong with women dating up if there's nothing wrong with slutty men only dating virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:43 PM
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Again, all men should stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:36 PM
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Is what people say on social media, talk shows, and podcasts representative of the views of society as a whole? Or is it representative of the beliefs of the specific individual that created that specific piece of media?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:15 PM
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All men that want to marry a chaste woman should himself be chaste. All men should stop feeling entitled to every woman they're attracted to. Bogo sale, two for the price of one
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:13 PM
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Can you show me some examples of this propaganda? And how is that shaming male sexuality itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:11 PM
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In what ways are those men being ostracized by society?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:06 PM
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We are talking about chastity and what all wo/men should do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:05 PM
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All men should stop switching the goal posts. Let's keep it going but on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 09:00 PM
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You just said yes to the phrase "MEN don't want a woman other men have touched". If it's shameful for a woman to have slept with a bunch of other men, then is that not shaming men and essentially calling them disgusting defilers? Is that not men shaming men for their sexuality which you agreed they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:58 PM
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All men should stop trying to tell women what to do with their own bodies lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:53 PM
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Dang I'm just now realizing I never knew that. I always wondered why they considered pop icon Madonna a symbol of purity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:41 PM
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So it's not society that shames male sexuality then, it's other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:38 PM
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But if they were when she slept with them? Would that make her an alpha maker?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:37 PM
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I'm telling you right now that it is. Spelled out like that in all caps with a tm behind it, in italics, no space in between, that's what people mean when they say that whether anyone of us likes it or not. You're railing against the demonization of guys that are nice when that's not even who people are talking about in the first place. I've never seen anyone encourage someone to stay in the "friendzone", hell I haven't even heard a grown adult say that word unironically in real life in years. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:22 PM
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Dude that's what a Nice Guy™️ is. That is what people are talking about when they call someone that. Get in on the lingo lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:04 PM
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I think some of these guys think women go around calling guys that are nice NiceGuys™️. They're just called people like everyone else since the baseline is being nice and it isn't enough of a defining characteristic to label regular people. I think a lot of folks on here would greatly benefit from interacting with more people in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:02 PM
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I think I reached the character limit haha had to cut this way down. Yeah this place can be pretty poisonous. I try to take breaks every now and then when I start to feel other people's opinions weighing on me. I think this type of sub in general has a tendency to breed insecurity. Because men like me have no experience of being considered "good". ...We don't get confirmation/reassurance that we're doing the right thing... Well what do you expect? That's life man and it sucks and I understand wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:50 PM
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The thing is, if everything you're saying about yourself is true then the term doesn't apply to you and you don't have anything to worry about. People see how you behave and that's what they typically react to. And by that I mean in real life, not in online conversations. I think if all the posts and what not are getting to you that much to the point where it's affecting your self esteem, you should take a break. Why do you get defensive when people talk about others that display different actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 05:07 PM
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Then as long as you don't become resentful and mean when you're only given friendship, there's no problem. The person you replied to literally said "if you don't want to actually be platonic friends with someone and are only their friend in hopes that it will become romantic, that makes you a creep". That's a very specific definition that clearly doesn't include the guys you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:06 PM
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The targets are clearly identified as Nice Guys. That's why it's usually capitalized or put in quotations or in italics in text conversations. The context around the conversation should be enough to let you know what someone means when they call someone a nice guy irl or in online conversations. If we're taking about a friend and I say "yeah Bob is a really nice guy, he's so kind and thoughtful" it's obvious that there isn't a negative connotation to the word but if I say "the guy I went on a da…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 04:00 PM
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I should've clarified what I meant by that my apologies! I meant specifically the guys that do "go around telling women they're nice and that they should be considered as a partner because of it". Nothing wrong with men defending themselves in conversations where men are being demonized. What is "the problem" exactly? That people get shafted and treated like shit based on a misunderstanding sometimes? I'm not sure there is a solution, I think that's just life. It sucks really bad but it kindof j…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:31 PM
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Men are doing this. Not all of them obviously and maybe not even most, but a lot of them do that. Especially guys that openly say they're a nice guy, nice people don't usually go around telling people that they're nice because people already know that by their actions. Nice people know that it doesn't need to be said for people to know. And it's unusual anyways for someone you don't know that well to feel the need to tell you how good of a person they are. It's offputting at best and egotististi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:00 PM
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It can be transactional in certain situations and in others it isn't. It's not about being "given" or "taking" something, its a shared activity. Both parties turn their partner on, it just takes different things to get there for men than it does for women. And both parties partake in it. Can it still be considered a transaction if both parties both give and receive?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:29 AM
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I'm not sure if I'd call it a cult but I agree with everything else you're saying! I think the problem with the red pill is that it seems to be kind of a gateway to more extreme ideologies. Or at least that's what it looks like based on stuff I've seen people say on here. I'm sure there is plenty of good about it and it probably helps a lot of people but there can't be any room for extreme ideals. And hosting a platform for inexperienced people to give advice to other inexperienced people just i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:59 PM
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Im not trying to mock the guy, idk his intentions. A lot of the takes on here sound like they're coming from really young guys. I think I had that kind of opinion back before I had any real world experience myself. Getting out into the world doing things and meeting a ton of different people is what changed my perspective. The "there aren't many bonds to be created with someone who's already created them with other people" comment reeks of inexperience imo. I don't think anyone that's actually b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:47 PM
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Can people only enjoy things one time? Is a trip to Paris not special just because someone has been there before? The only way to wow someone is to be their first so they have nothing to compare? Isn't the whole point of the experience to experience it together? Yes she's been to Paris before but she's never been there with you. First times with specific people are very special for me personally, even if I've done the thing before. A first kiss with someone new, first time going on a trip togeth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:44 PM
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Men at the top count as men lol just because not everyone has "access" doesn't mean that you should just disregard those that do. Where's that statistic that only like 20-30% of men (google says about 23% havent had sex in the past year, correct me if I'm wrong please) are still virgins or not having sex consistently in their 20s? That's not "most men". And "female promiscuity" isn't some prize to be won. It probably would help a lot of people to stop viewing it that way, maybe they'd be happier…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:58 PM
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Yeah just a misunderstanding! I think we're mostly in agreement. I'm not sure about a threshold seeing as it's possible for anybody to get laid. There are some truly bad looking people out there that have no issue in that regard, people that you would think have no chance in hell, people with disabilities or bad personalities, homeless people, etc etc. Its a lot less likely but not impossible. Obviously attractive people have a much easier time and don't have to put in as much or any (in some ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:46 PM
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I think that in very specific instances like professional sports genes are a major determining factor in combination with a few other factors like effort, luck, and chance as I've said. I just disagree with the phrase "born to do" because it implies a belief in fate the way it's usually used, that's all I was disagreeing with on that point. I get now what you're trying to say, that those people are born with the traits that are useful for entry and I don't disagree with that. I'm not subtly ackn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:18 PM
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Me and my friends used to talk about it a lot in our earlier 20's. I've asked guys I've dated about it because I'm just a curious person that likes to talk about sexual experiences. I know a ballpark of how many people my friends have slept with and they know about me too. I just like to know how I match up in numbers with people lol but only out of curiousity. Everybody is different and some people like to talk about and know things that others don't care to. I think the motivations behind want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:05 PM
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I think that it's more because it's not the act of having sex that people see as damaging or bad, it's the act of having sex when you're a woman. It's just a double standard is all. Everybody likes and wants sex but a lot of people seem to see it as a good thing worthy of praise only when men do it. That's why you see some guys that sleep around a lot saying they think women that do the same are gross. They don't think their dicks are disgusting. I've never heard of anybody praising a man for 'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 06:53 PM
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Oops I sent a reply before I saw your edit. I think it would help for you to actually read what I said. I never said genes have zero impact on your life, I never said that anything is possible for everyone, and I never said that everything is always your fault. Where are you even getting that from? I said People aren't really born to be anything I did not say that genes have absolutely nothing to do with success or that people can somehow magically change their genes?? But thank you for clarifyi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 06:32 PM
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People aren't really born to be anything and that thought process is completely based on a metaphysical belief system. Which is fine but we can't pretend that it's objective fact. Some people are born with certain talents or genes and others are born with others or both or neither. Hell, some people aren't born predisposed to certain attributes but they put in an incredible amount of effort to become what they deem successful. I'm sure Stephen curry and Tom Brady didn't come out the womb playing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:31 PM
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No but I think it's a joke to say that a woman smiling at them must mean she felt some type of way as if the only reason women have to smile at men is because they want to be hit on. I'm not denying that women give interest signals. I'm just saying that a lot of men interpret simple friendly gestures as interest signals and women that don't want to be misinterpreted choose to opt out of friendly gestures. Thats it, you guys are reading way too into what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:01 AM
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I don't think it's really for anyone to tell people how they should or shouldn't act towards people they don't know and likely won't ever see again as long as they're not actively going out of their way to harm them. I don't like rude people but they're allowed to be that way if they choose. I think also a lot of people interpret a lack of outward friendliness as rude which I myself am guilty of sometimes but i don't care enough to complain about it on the internet, I just keep it moving. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 07:17 PM
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I actually am a woman that asks men out and (gasp shocker!) I'm always polite to strangers, men and women. I know not all women think the same, I'm a literal example of a woman that regularly acts outside of the norm lol you are preaching to the choir. There's nothing wrong with shooting your shot and I don't mind men doing so with me but I know and have known plenty of women that do mind who are no longer friendly to stranger men because they don't want their actions to be misinterpreted. I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:57 PM
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I have. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:33 PM
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Not sure if you're joking but this is the answer to op's question. A lot of men take friendly gestures as an invitation and women that are uninterested have adapted in response
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:27 PM
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I think if someone was regularly getting mugged by black guys starting from a very young age in a world where there's some substantial link between being black and being violent, it would make sense for them to be a bit wary. This analogy doesn't work because that's not the world we live in and it wouldn't make sense to cross the street every time you see a black man just because you were mugged ONCE by a someone who just happens to be a black man. It does make sense to be wary of stranger men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:22 PM
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I think I'm just arguing semantics and I apologize for that. It really sucks that men with good intentions have to jump through hoops and face stigma in this case but I get why people can be hesitant. You just can never be too sure about people's intentions. I think if we lived in a better world this wouldn't be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 05:23 PM
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There are similarities but it's a different process. One is finding someone to pay to carry a child for you (yes you have to convince them to carry out the process for you) and the other is choosing to have a child (or accidentally having a child) with someone that you have known and been with for a period of time. The only similarity is that women aren't always willing to just give a baby to anyone without convincing. Do you think finding a surrogate is the same as getting your partner pregnant…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:42 PM
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Yeah that's all true but my point still stands that there's a difference between being with a woman and finding a surrogate. Convincing a woman that's actively willing to produce a child for someone to choose you over other people is very different from being with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:12 PM
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There's a huge difference between being with a woman and paying someone to carry your child. One is a literal money transaction. There are more professional ways to go about finding a surrogate other than convincing some random woman on the street to do it. You could go through an agency or a clinic or find an attorney or go to specific organizations or websites to find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:12 PM
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It's a (terrible) experience that's sexual in nature, therefore a sexual experience. Why do you feel the need to tell someone what they should or shouldn't call something they've experienced? You can consider it whatever you want but it's not your experience to name
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:33 PM
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Yeah I honestly think suits are boring as hell. Men's formal attire is all the same, it's hard to stand out when you're wearing the same black suit, white dress shirt, black tie that every other man wears and has worn for the past like 100 years. There's no individuality, which is what I personally find attractive in men. But like you said women's taste varies on a case by case basis. And different styles look better or worse on different body types. All stuff women generally take into considera…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:50 PM
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I don't think preferences are racist, I think it has more to do with either wanting to be with someone of a similar cultural background or just knowing that the chances of finding someone that isn't black thats mutually attracted are slim in a lot of cases. Im a black woman who dates whoever is attractive to me regardless of race but I have found that men that aren't black don't typically want to be with me even if they want to sleep with me. You yourself seem to be an outlier seeing as most Chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:09 PM
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I disagree about who fashion appeals to. Women's fashion definitely appeals to men. "Slutty and inappropriate" clothing is made to appeal to men and what they're attracted to and most clothing marketed to women has those qualities. Low necklines, form fitting clothing that enhance curves, makeup, high heels to enlongate legs and lift up the butt. A lot of the stuff women wear is straight up impractical and uncomfortable but the point of it is to look good. Men's formal clothing isn't really made…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:47 AM
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I mean it's not that hard to host a survey that asks people how many people they've slept with lol and surveys like that aren't that hard to find. Here's one: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm though I'm not sure how many people they surveyed. Looks like the majority of women have had less than 10 partners with the single highest percentage of the group having had between 2-4. Only a minority of women 13% reportedly have been with 15+ people. Reproduction rates have noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:07 PM
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None of these sources say anything about women today having more partners than the majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 11:30 AM
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I date men btw. I can't say how I'd feel until I'm actually faced with the situation but I think it depends. An ex from a relationship years ago that ended on a good note I dont think I'd mind. I probably wouldn't want them to hang out one on one if I don't personally know her and her intentions well and I definitely wouldn't be okay with them sleeping around with each other. My only issue is cheating, be it emotional or physical. I'd actually prefer to date a man that's capable of being on good…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 11:35 AM
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I get what you're saying here but I disagree with your logic that there must be something wrong with women who've had previous partners. I don't believe that there must be something wrong with men that haven't had any relationships either. But I understand not wanting to date someone inexperienced or with way more experience. I get the point that you're making but your op just feels more like a gotcha instead of an honest conversation starter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:44 PM
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I don't think there are any 'solutions' to issues with dating. Nobody here knows you or your circumstances and there unfortunately isn't a special formula that can be universally applied to magically solve people's dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 05:35 PM
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It's not fair to grant extra privilages to those that haven't been drafted even if they were forced to sign up. People already get extra benefits from being in the military and if a draft were to be enforced then the men that are drafted should get benefits, same as the men and women that sign up voluntarily. Men shouldn't get extra benefits just because they're men, you have to actually do the work to receive benefits. There are men that would find loopholes and ways out of it im sure as well a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:43 PM
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Obviously declining birth rates would mean less people in the long run but it's not like we're in shortage of people nor is everyone choosing to not have kids. I'd even say only a small amount of people are choosing to go child free and that includes the ones that go on to have children anyway. I don't think that underpopulation is or will be an issue at all in the country I live in for a long long time. Maybe slightly less people will make things better in the long run, who knows. It is interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:28 PM
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Yeah I definitely agree that it's silly to "dress like younger people" but I don't really see any issue with someone over 30 dancing and having fun in a college bar. I think it's weird if they frequent a bar filled with kids or only go to college bars but an older person going and having fun isn't that weird to me. 30 isn't even old in the first place. Maybe I just think that because it's normal for people from like 18-40 to go to the same bars where I live (semi college town). Sometimes there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:00 PM
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We didn't mock the men as much... contrary to this thread most were just drinking and looking... some did approach... Are these the types of middle aged men you're talking about here? You yourself don't seem to have any problem with them going off of what you typed in your op so how are you going to say I'm the one trying to normalize it lol. You made a whole post about how lame you think the women are and then went on to excuse the middle aged men. I just don't understand why you pointed out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 03:17 PM
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Answer my question first and then I'll answer yours
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 02:53 PM
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Why is it "trying to relive their youth" for the women that are just dancing and having a good time but okay for the men that are watching from the sides and hitting on people?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:41 AM
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What does that have to do with what they said? Nobody is talking about men laughing at older women or women laughing at older men. Op was pointing out how ironic it is for a young woman to laugh at 30 year old women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 11:18 AM
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I would argue college aged women would rather fuck a hot 30s guy than an unattractive guy their own age most if not every time. Yeah that's probably true for a situation where they had to choose either or. But you forgot the third option, that women can say no to both. The fact that women don't want to sleep with unattractive men doesn't really have anything to do with whether or not young women want to date older men. I think it's pretty uncommon just based on what I've seen throughout my life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:55 AM
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Dude lol you got me I guess. Didn't realize you were trolling until now, you did a good job! I wish you a wonderful evening
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:23 PM
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Well I'm sure there are more than 1000 broke people in love lol. And the statistics are about divorce not love itself so no, those statistics do not prove your point. Show me a study proving that women can't love someone that doesn't provide them financial stability and I'll concede. There is no one rule about loving someone, like I said it's all just based on compatability (this includes amount of effort) and feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:25 PM
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So are you saying that it's not possible for a woman to love a man that doesn't provide financial security? How is that not disproven by the fact that there literally are women that love men that don't provide financial security? That fact alone is what disproves your point, not the fact that women are able to fall in love in various situations. I was only saying "fall in love" to stick with the topic as op of this thread posted it. My opinion is also based on word of mouth of women, what I've p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:05 PM
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Your statement was that men providing financial stability is a precondition (see: *requirement) for women to fall or be in love, to which I said that there are men that don't provide financial stability who women are in love with. That disproves your statement. My statement was just that what you said is false and that there are no universal preconditions for love, to which you replied that the fact that many people get into and stay in abusive relationships doesn't detract from the fact that ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:22 PM
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We're not talking about what's bad for relationships though are we? The question was "what makes people fall in and out of love?" Abuse is bad for relationships and so is incompatibility but neither stop people from falling in love nor do they make people fall out of love in every case. Not saying that you said it's in every case but your use of the word "precondition" implies that. If anything, the fact that people repeatedly get into and stay in abusive relationships negates your point that be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:54 PM
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Thanks for the link! The op questioned why people fall in and out of love which is why I mentioned that. You said that a man providing financial security is a precondition (see: requirement) for love which is easily disproven by the fact that there are plenty of broke people that are in love, even after the honeymoon phase. I do believe that financial insecurity can be a stressor to a relationship but not that it's a precondition/requirement for being in love (not just "falling in love"). I'd ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:55 PM
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Having a 1000 body count and making 40k a year aren't mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:12 PM
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Why would you remove the "super fatties" and old ladies? Are we only talking about women that you personally find attractive? Fat people fuck and old ladies haven't been old their whole lives. If anything, including old people should skew the numbers higher since they've had way more time to fuck around and they usually do so a lot in old age
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:09 PM
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I don't think that financial security is a set precondition for love but we can just agree to disagree. Can you link where you got the divorce statistics? I'd like to read up on it. I just don't think that divorce is indicative of why people fell out of love and I also don't think that preferences really have that much to do with why people fall in or out of love. Maybe people choose their partners based on how well they fit their preferences but I don't think the feeling of love is based on a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:27 PM
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My only contradiction to your point is that providing financial security isn't what makes people fall in love or at least I don't think it's the main reason. Your point is pretty much that a woman will fall out of love if a man doesn't match that one specific preference (that he provides financial security) to a tee forever and I disagree with that because I think it's unrealistic and lacks nuance. A person can feel negative feelings and resentment about anything due to overwhelming stress. It c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:51 PM
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I think it's more because financial stress is one of the worst kinds and stress does all kinds of weird things to us. It's harder to focus on the work it takes to keep a relationship strong when you're under a ton of stress. People grow apart from it sometimes, it breeds resentment and other negative feelings, etc. Providing financial security isn't what makes people fall in love
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:56 AM
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I'd argue that women just don't usually like 'boring' guys, whatever that means to each individual woman. Nobody wants to be with someone they see as boring is my guess. Boring doesn't equal nice and vice versa. Guys that have something going for them and who like to have fun aren't always assholes and vice versa. "Nice guys finish last" lacks nuance and is based on assumptions and generalizations. It seems to me that a lot of guys using that phrase 1. aren't even nice 2. always assume that men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:47 AM
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Word okay thanks for the answers!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:46 PM
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Do you not believe that being a good partner is learned through experience? Would you prefer to date someone that has had no relationship experience? Why are you so adamant about friends telling your business to your partner? Where are you getting that from, do your friends do that or have your partner(s)' friends done that? Have you done the "hymen check" on women before? Sorry for all the questions and obviously you don't have to answer them but I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:17 PM
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I think that you shouldn't resent yourself for believing things that people told you while you were still growing up. I personally resent the rhetoric of if you do x thing y thing will happen because it lacks the nuance of real world experience. I'm sorry to hear that your your experience isn't what you had hoped for but tbh people tell kids nice things to give them hope so that they don't grow up with the mindset that they're going to fail every time they try. Not saying this excuses their teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:04 PM
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Every woman's hymen looks different, there's no base look to compare to. You can't feel a hymen with your hands, it literally all feels the same down there. And I highly doubt virgin women differ all that much from non virgin women when it comes to foreplay and all that. Most women need more foreplay before penetration, it's not like having had more sexual partners has any correlation with how fast it takes to warm up. Having had alot of sex is actually what made me realize that taking it slow i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:09 PM
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What you're saying about the hymen just isn't true though. Every woman's hymen looks different, there's no base look to compare to. Do you ask women if you can examine their hymen before you date them? Like how does that work? How are you going to tell me what my friends talk about lmao do you know them? They don't talk about my romantic/sexual past to my partners. They don't refer to me as anything having to do with who I've dated or slept with in the past because they know it's not their place…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:36 PM
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Yeah exactly! It honestly just reads as inexperience and it gives me second hand embarrassment (no offense to that person). Sounds exactly like how I used to think when I was a teenager/kid
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:57 PM
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LOL I was picturing something like that when I read that guy's comment. It's crazy to me that a person could know so little about women's anatomy yet they have no shame about boldly making incorrect claims like that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:49 PM
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What does the hymen have to do with this? It's not like examining the hymen will tell you how many partners someone has had or even whether they're a virgin or not lmao. Also my friends don't talk about my exes to guys I'm dating because they're my friends and they don't want or care to start drama in my relationships. Where are you getting this info from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:32 PM
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Each of these three lines of reasoning individually make a lot of sense, but if you unite all three they don't compute. Probably because it's not one person saying all three things most of the time and women don't all think or feel the same about certain things. I've never seen a woman say they only have casual sex when the man is worthy (not that nobody's ever said that, I just haven't seen it), usually I see the reverse "I have only casual sex with men that aren't worthy of a relationship, usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:48 PM
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I agree with everything you're saying but the video games and porn thing is getting a bit old. In almost every post I see on here somebody brings that up as if it has that much of an impact on that many men. Addiction is a serious issue that effects a lot of people's lives but it's a generalization to reduce dating issues down to "he plays video games and watches porn." There are plenty of men that spend time on those things that are functioning and successful people. I feel like it's gotten to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:42 PM
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Those sources talk about how many children people in different groups have and when, not fertility rates. Nothing in them say that religious people with those values are more fertile or not, just that they're more likely to have kids than non religious people. The flaw in the way the data is presented in the first site is that they equate fertility with birth rate (I wouldn't expect more from a religious group tbh). We can't draw any conclusions about fertility from the fact that religious peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:23 AM
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Violent psycho/sociopaths don't usually have difficulties attracting anyone. If you look into cases of people who serial abuse/murder women, most people around them are completely surprised that they would do something like that. They're usually well beloved by the people around them because they're usually extremely socially intelligent, they typically present a great personality and have above average social skills which are both very attractive attributes. It's similar for regular asshole guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:22 PM
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Do you have any stats to back up the more stable lives and higher fertility rate points or is that a theory? That still doesn't mean that more people are starting to value long term relationships and family values nor does it mean that it would balance out 'sexlessness' stats imo but I'm curious to hear how you came to that conclusion!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:43 PM
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The process would be more akin to a culture which more intensely values LTR and family values. If you're proposing this as a solution, what do you think the process of changing those societal values would be? I think that would probably never happen because of the simple fact that "society's values" are based on what the majority of people in that society value. I think family values are already pretty prevelant even if they might be on a slight decline and personal freedom of choice in dating i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:27 PM
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Oh yeah I agree lying is bad and people should just be honest. I haven't seen any women on here or otherwise saying that if men are just kind and nice they'll get dates but whoever you've seen saying that is a liar. I've seen a lot of women say that being kind is a quality they look for in a partner but it's obvious that it takes more than just being kind to get in a relationship. There is no formula for finding love and anybody saying you will find love if you do/are x should be ignored. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:55 AM
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But my point is that reality doesn't need to be validated, its reality. If youre saying that people shouldn't lie about it, I get it and agree but your comment sounds like you want us to shout it from the rooftops so to speak. Lmk if I misunderstood what you were saying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:14 PM
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Idk man I think there are way more attractive women in the world than men (just imo). It's not like there's a perfectly equal ratio of ugly/hot men to ugly/hot women and neither is there an equal ratio for any other attributes like salary, personality, mental health, sexuality, etc etc. Matching people up based on physical attractiveness alone wouldn't in any way guarantee a happy relationship and neither would matching based on looks + wealth status and personality. There literally is no possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:59 PM
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I think people are attracted to people for a lot of different reasons, with looks only being the initial factor in a lot of cases. I don't think you can really pinpoint any one reason why someone might get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:00 PM
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I feel like if people would simply admit that yes, a lot of the time you will be rejected if not most of the time because they didn't find you attractive enough, THEN people would stop bringing it up all the time. But if this is something that everyone knows already, then why do people need other people to say this to them? What good does it do for women to state the obvious? Most people don't want to be with someone they don't find attractive, this is common enough that I feel like it doesn't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:51 PM
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Oh word okay thanks for the response!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:45 PM
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Why do you think it's "wrong" to have casual sex? Like what about it is wrong in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:39 PM
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What do you think of women that had casual sex in the past but more recently has been making men wait? Not as in dating multiple guys at once, i mean most recent previous partners
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 09:26 AM
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There's an update on the post saying that she had a conversation with her fiancé about how she was feeling and they cleared things up. I also thought the first post could be a redpill 'gotcha' at first but if it was fake I doubt the author would include another post saying that they were in the wrong and things are better after communicating with their partner lol. Everybody feels insecure and jealous sometimes. It's entirely possible for a woman to have those feelings and waving it away as fake…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:50 PM
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That doesn't really answer my question but can you link any of the studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 09:25 PM
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What makes you think the mass majority of men care about what their partner has done in the past? Unless there are studies or something to back up that claim, I don't think anyone can say what "most men" or "most women" want. Most of the men I've met and talked to about this topic don't care. I know that the guys in my personal circle arent representative of the entire population of men though(which is why I say "a lot" instead of "most"), and neither are the guys I've met that do care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:59 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:53 PM
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I don't treat guys that I actually like with distance, I just don't have sex with them immediately. I give more of myself, sexually and emotionally, to someone that I see myself building a relationship with. I feel like alot of guys on here just completely read over the part where I say I actually spend time with and get to know a guy that I want to be with and only focus on the fact that I'm not immediately letting them into my pants. Its not like I never have sex with guys I'm into, I just pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:50 PM
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We don't have kings here in the country I live in so what kings want is irrelevant to me. Im only speaking from my personal experience when I say that a lot of men don't care about body count. Im sure a lot of men do care, but that doesn't mean that every man does. Again, alot of women don't even want the men that do in the first place. It's fine for them to have that preference and I wish them good luck in finding an adult woman that hasn't had sex who actually wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:40 PM
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I think some people just don't realize that what works for them won't work for everyone. I used to be that friend that was completely bewildered about women that want to wait for marriage and I would express that to my friends. Growing up a bit showed me that my experiences aren't universal and sometimes it can even be harmful to try to put my preferences onto other people. Not everything is some big conspiracy lol. Yeah some women want to corrupt others but we don't all hate and want to sabotag…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:40 PM
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I completely disagree with this but it's interesting to see what chaste women think of women that choose to have sex outside of a relationship. Maybe you would "feel like a slut" for having casual sex but I don't think of myself like that and I didn't even when I was sleeping around a bunch, same as I don't think of men that sleep around as sluts lol. 'Slut' is just a derogatory term that people use to try to shame women for liking sex and I don't align myself with that. People like to have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:29 PM
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Oh word. It's definitely interesting to think about and I think it's funny how even some of the most basic stuff we do is due to societal conditioning. Sometimes t's hard to know if something is due to conditioning or if it's just something we like. For me personally, I prefer monogamy and would absolutely despise being in a polyamorous or open relationship so I do "really like that shit that I like" even if I came about it because "I like how it was sold to me". Maybe it's just a mix of both. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:38 PM
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Oh word. I think men's thirst is the reason behind the lopsided ratio. And I mean this with no offense to men, nothing wrong with thirst. The algorithm doesn't affect people that don't use the app and it doesn't influence people's decision to make an account. Once people sign up and use it though, I'm sure the algorithm probably decides who gets seen more and all that and most likely has an bit of an effect on how many matches people get but even then, the 67-75% of men choose to sign up on thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:26 PM
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The op doesn't say anything about men needing to police their standards to make other people happy, what are you talking about lol. The whole point is that people shit on women's standard of "if it doesn't make me happy I don't want it" when that's a completely reasonable standard for anyone to have. Nobody, man or woman, should waste time trying to force a relationship with someone that doesn't make them happy or with someone they don't give a damn about. I think men should take notes and also …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:52 AM
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It's not the algorithm creating scarcity, it's the fact that 75% of tinder users are men and 67% of bumble users are men. That would mean only 25% of tinder users and 33% of bumble users are women. If we were to somehow successfully pair male and female users, 50% of tinder users who are men and 34% of bumble users who are men (edit: my math was off lol) would still be left empty handed. (Tinder user statistics: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1238390/most-popular-dating-apps-us-by-number-of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 11:23 AM
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The majority of them probably aren't that attractive either lol. I'd even go so far as to say that top influencers edit every post they put out and a lot of them in reality look nothing like what you see on their Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:16 PM
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When do you think the conditioning started? Why would we be conditioned to be monogamous? How would it benefit society to push for monogamy? I haven't studied the topic enough to know. But I will say that for me personally, when I'm in a relationship I don't even want anyone else and I want my partner to feel the same. It takes enough energy being in a relationship with one person, I wouldn't be able to give my all to more than one person at a time nor would I want to. I'd think it's based more …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:13 AM
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What was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:11 AM
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It is equality for men and women to both have a right to bodily autonomy. Just like men have a right to say no to donating an organ to keep someone alive, women have a right to choose not to 'donate' their body to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:03 AM
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Who do you think 'taught' people to be monogamous and how would they have enforced that? I think it's more a decision based on emotion but I have no idea how monogamy came about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:08 PM
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Edit 2 says But my OP is asking what possible justification based on principles could be offered for someone with a worldview like that? There are no universal principles in dating, only subjective ones which is why my answer is based on my personal preferences. The principle that I follow is that monogamous relationships (which are my preference) are based on commitment to each other and sleeping with people that aren't your partner is a breach of that commitment. Im sure not everyone has the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:55 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/wk7mrm/if_sex_is_so_unimportant_why_is_monogamy_so/ijmux2y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 I replied to your other comment with my answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:45 PM
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Why do they want them wholly now but not always? Why past sex is ok but current sex isn't? Because commitment only starts when both parties agree to it. You can't want someone before you know them, only after you meet and commitment can't be broken until after both parties agree to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:39 PM
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Because some people just prefer to be monogamous with their partner. Any reasoning behind that just depends on the person you ask. I could tell you why I value and prefer monogamy but I can't tell you why anyone else does. I think it just has to do with a promise of commitment. If that's established, having sex with anyone but your partner is considered a breach of trust, cheating. It's not about jealousy for me, I'd just prefer to not have to worry about potential std's or my so getting someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 09:24 PM
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So it's a two way street then? Both parties have the power to say yes or no to a relationship/sex. I don't believe either has power over the other. People are only the gatekeepers of their own actions, not the actions of others
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 10:05 PM
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But sometimes it takes being walked all over or exploited to wake up and get the memo. This is the reason why some women have a sexually adventurous past but choose to not be that way anymore. I think most topics on this sub wouldn't be topics if people (men and women) would just learn how to walk away from situations and people that make them unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:56 PM
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For me it doesn't matter what he did with someone else, it matters what he does with me (obviously extreme events like a history of cheating or violence are exceptions). The line is drawn at me not getting what I want out of a relationship. If I start dating a guy and he doesn't like to spend time outdoors, for example, then I would just have to pass on him whether he did it with past partners or not. What he did with them is irrelevant to me, all that matters is whether or not me and my partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:25 PM
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I personally wouldn't mind that unless he's talking shit about it. Guys (in my circle at least) don't talk about vaginas but my guy friends talk openly about boobs and ass around me and I don't mind it unless they're being extra vulgar. It's different if you know your partner doesn't want you to talk about them though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:41 PM
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Women, like shit, are beneath men. Modern western women are only worth about 3 goats. This sounds pretty hateful to me tbh. I get he's saying that men should focus more on improving themselves and less on women and I agree with that. But the article could've done without the misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:33 PM
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Ah i guess what Im missing is the context around people calling it out because he's a man. I haven't seen any conversations like that online or outside, the only thing I've seen is people calling out the backlash because nobody talks shit about what suits white men wear. I haven't even heard anyone bring up the suit debacle in years actually but I get what you're saying with that context, if that's what you're seeing. I think it does say something that people choose to say something about double…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:10 PM
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I personally go clubbing because I just like clubbing lol. I like going somewhere with my friends to buy drinks and dance to music on a good sound system and I like to dance and chat with people in that specific environment. Clubs aren't specifically just for meeting guys to hook up with. They can be if that's someone's goal but it just depends on the person and what they want. Also a lot of people that go often do go with their s/o. I see a bunch of couples every time I go out. I do get what yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:03 PM
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I think there's another layer to the tan suit thing that you're missing. People didn't start to notice how absurd the outcry was because hes a man, but because he's a black man and nobody had ever bothered to be that scrutinizing with any (white) previous president/man in a position of power. Which still serves your point that women are constantly evaluated and people don't usually do the same for men unless he either belongs to some minority group or if he's done something offbeat like you said…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:58 PM
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If the problem is women going after horrible men, wouldn't the root issue be the horrible men? If the men weren't horrible the women wouldn't be able to go after them. The way I see it, if some women are in a bad enough position (financially, mentally, and/or just based off who the type of people in their proximity) to go after men that are awful but are still willing to stick around to actually raise the child they created, is that not better than the men that choose to not give af about their …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:32 PM
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This is the second time I've seen someone mention "thugs with tattoos" lol. As if thugs with tattoos aren't people with a background that explains how they got to where and how they are. And same for the women that have children with them. Also not every man that abandons his family fits that description and not every man that fits that description abandons his family. I'd be willing to bet some of the guys in here saying that have never even talked to a 'thug with tattoos' or a single mom befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:12 PM
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Parents don't need to be physically involved when their kids are heading to college lol. Also there's the financial aspect. I feel like most people are still figuring out their own lives in their 20's and don't usually even have enough time to choose a suitable partner in that age but that's just my own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:27 AM
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For me it's mostly in the eyes, it's the first thing I notice or look for. I usually like guys that have 'doe eyes' so to speak. Like big brown eyes with defined eyelashes are usually most attractive to me but it's not a requirement. I like guys with kind, sad (shaped) eyes. I can't really explain beyond that what kind of eyes I find attractive but brown eyes or not, eye-shape/dark eyelashes goes a long way. I'm a sucker for crows feet also lol. Nice teeth, clean and mostly straight are good. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 01:45 AM
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Literally all of the comments are cracking me up. Op says she doesn't want to be with a man that only cares about sex and these guys keep asking why she isn't trying to prove herself to the very men that she said she doesn't want. Like the answer is right there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:22 PM
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Telling the truth from the jump isn't manipulation lol. If you're not interested anymore then just say that. If you go into it just wanting sex then just say that. If a woman says she's looking for something more serious and you're not then just say that and vice versa. If for whatever reason you change your mind about someone at any time then just say that. Honesty is the best policy even if she thinks you're lying and shit talks you to her friends, that's her problem not yours. Posts aren't in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:17 PM
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People do say "that's why you're single" to both men and women all the time lol. Maybe on this sub women tell men nobody wants to sleep with them because some men on this sub are always so damn focused on being angry about not getting sex and sometimes even acting like that's all women are good for. It's a really easy clapback for those kinds of guys, hit them where it hurts kind of thing. But the world is a lot bigger than this sub and people get insulted in all kinds of creative ways all the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:51 PM
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Google says sometimes for some people. I think that's the reason behind the 3 month rule or whatever. Like it's recommended to get tested every 3 months at the absolute least if you're sexually active just in case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:49 AM
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I guess what's the point in using protection if you don't care what happens. Couldn't be me though, I'm like a hypochondriac when it comes to anything sexually transmitted so I don't do hookups anymore. Some of that shit is permanent and can really mess with your overall health. I've been really lucky not to catch anything because I've for sure in the past laid down with dogs as the saying goes. I'm not trying to push my luck any further now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:41 PM
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I remember once I told my ex I hadn't been tested in a while (we were off and on) and he literally said he didn't care. It gave me the ick and I got tested like immediately after. Getting an std/i is really no joke and I can't believe how some people literally just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:11 PM
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In my culture people definitely praise women for doing things that involve physical labor. Dealing with a car and fixing things around the house etc is usually seen as a "man's role" so people usually either praise or men try to jump in to 'help so she doesn't hurt herself'. It's happened to me so many times before. It's interesting to hear how it is in your culture and I'd like to see more of that where I am. I get your point here and I think it's just a weird cultural thing based on the fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:20 PM
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Sorry to hear that dude. Hopefully you'll find someone that just likes you as you are! At least you're already happy with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:17 PM
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Then you just won't get dates if what you're already doing isn't attracting women...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:09 PM
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Can you link some of the studies? And I've read that women are less likely to go for 'violent' or 'messy' (for lack of a better word, it feels fucked up to call a suicide method messy geez) options. And a lot of less violent options are more reversible. What does that have to do with seeking attention though? When you say attention seeking do you mean more like a cry for help or do you mean just wanting to be in the spotlight? Also I can't tell if you're saying this as your opinion or as a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:19 PM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:17 AM
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So you think that it's negative because it makes things more complicated? How exactly does it do that though if the people that choose to not follow gender roles are dating other people that align more with the way they choose to behave? Is it because there are less people in the dating pool for more traditional leaning people? Not trying to be dense here I really am just curious about that particular opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:57 AM
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I mean if we're going by statistics, women are reported to consider and attempt suicide more often than men (here is one source: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/psychosocial-factors-that-distinguish-between-men-and-women-who-have-suicidal-thoughts-and-attempt-suicide-findings-from-a-national-probability-sample-of-adults/FB44712A3E729AB10CC065D07386523D). But like I said, I don't think it's really fair to try and say either suffer more. We don't know the rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:52 AM
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Not for extremely attractive women. You're not extremely attractive if taking off a face of makeup renders you unnoticeable as a woman imo. It seems to me like having showstopping looks as a woman is more of a crutch than anything. I think they meant 'difficult to mask' as in hard to hide, not as in a 'mask' of makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:04 PM
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I don't think anyone can say whether men or women 'suffer more' when they're depressed. Depression itself is suffering and whether or not a person with depression commits suicide doesn't usually have anything to do with how bad they have it (for lack of a better phrase). I think it's silly and a bit immature to turn the issue into a game of who has it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:59 PM
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Woman here. I honestly just love spending money on things that I enjoy and my parents were very controlling while I was growing up so I absolutely love being independent. I actually hate working (I love my free time and being able to do what I want when I want) but I want to be able to provide for myself so I'm driven to finding a high paying career to support my lifestyle. I also want to leave my mark on the world so I'm working towards a career that will allow me to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:50 PM
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Why do you see that as a negative change?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:34 AM
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Ah okay thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:41 PM
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Yeah but you made the statement about 'desirable men' so I'd like to know what that means to you. You would have to observe who 'desirable men' choose for partners to make that statement right? Or was it just a guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:04 PM
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Cool okay thanks for the reply!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:24 PM
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Lol it surprised the hell out of me for sure. And yeah I think a lot of people on this sub are just super inexperienced or something. Or maybe they're just unlucky to have run into a bunch of rigid women. It doesn't really make sense for a woman to not give some type of feedback unless they're purposely looking for bad sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:23 PM
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Oh geez haha I had an experience like that too once, super experienced guy almost took my damn nipple off lmao. No idea whats up with that, maybe they had been with a bunch of women that were into that kind of stuff. I think everyone is just so varied that it's pretty illogical to call anything having to do with experience a red flag. I've been with guys that are less experienced that have been fantastic lovers and vice versa. The guy I'm with now is very experienced (and also hung) and things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:00 PM
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I agree it's the norm for me too, I don't mind guiding a guy since different women like different things and experience doesn't necessarily mean he knows what to do with me. But I do want him to have at least base knowledge of what usually works and what doesn't. Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:50 PM
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I wouldn't say it's a red flag but I do prefer a guy that has more experience. I think it's just because more experience usually correlates to better performance. I have been pleasantly surprised before though and I wouldn't turn a guy down just because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:40 PM
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You're not taking into account the difference between what women are allowed to do now vs then. They weren't allowed to even have a bank account until 1960 and 10 years after that was when an act against gender discrimination was signed. They had no choice in the matter and sometimes they were literally sold off by their families. If anything, the fact that women have more autonomy now and are choosing not to marry old ass men in their teenaged years says a lot. And white people owning slaves wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:26 PM
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Well for one I think it's shitty to become "friends" with someone just based on what they can do for you. And two I wouldn't set my friends up with men that I know they won't be attracted to. It's not necessarily about disrespect. Why would I try to set a guy up with my friend if I know she won't be attracted to him and will most likely reject him? Especially if he's my friend, seems like it would hurt him more than anything. And honestly I don't set anyone up for relationships. I introduce frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:02 PM
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What traits do you consider desirable in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:33 PM
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Jeez that video is giving off uncanny valley to the max haha. But was she wrong? I think some behaviors that we have (both men and women) come from biology like some of the stuff she listed off but she didn't take into account the fact that humans have been around for like 6 million years and our lifestyles are almost completely different from those of our ancestors. Evolution is a thing to consider. I also think the point of the video was just to make the men that say "it's in our nature!!!" ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:35 PM
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There's a major difference between just hooking up and actually having an emotional connection
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:33 PM
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I've heard that it started out as good advice but people have warped it into something different. It seems like "work on yourself first and the rest will follow" is the core of it which isn't a bad message. But tbh I haven't looked into it that much. Definitely some of the stuff is just fantasy though and it's so obvious where it's coming from lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:30 PM
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I know you're just joking here but the concept of people "peaking" at a certain age is pretty silly. Peaking is like entirely subjective. What's attractive to one person is different for the next person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:22 PM
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Don't you think that's a bit of a generalization though if you're basing it on the experiences of "two of the guys"? Just because their two girlfriends may or may not be manipulative doesn't mean that that's a thing that women generally do. I've personally been accused of being manipulative for crying openly and I honestly think that anyone who thinks that is emotionally underdeveloped. I don't mean this to be offensive. Crying is a natural response to things that make you sad and it can't be tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:07 PM
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Crying is a pretty natural reaction to a partner wanting to break up. Do you guys really see crying as a manipulation tactic? I honestly don't think there's a large percentage of women (or just people in general) that can cry on cue. Also having depression or insecurities isn't 'forcing a guy to stay with you'. I get it's harder to break up with someone while they're struggling emotionally but unless she's just straight up intentionally lying I don't see how just having depression is manipulativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:45 AM
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Yeah I found out my ladle has hysteria last week when it kept spilling my soup down the side of my bowl instead of into it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:08 PM
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For me it was the appeal of the whole ~sexual liberation~ thing after moving out of a very controlling household. Also women like sex and a lot of young women don't understand the emotional stress that comes with so called no-strings setups and lack the mental maturity to properly analyze certain situations. A lot of men also pressure you into things that you're not really comfortable doing sometimes and it's hard to turn down when 1. you want to have sex and 2. don't really know how to say no i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:51 PM
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Did anything I say imply otherwise in any way? Did anything I say imply that I thought you were saying otherwise? No. Just like you, I made a simple statement. Implying that inside the house isn't??? Inside the house is also a part of reality and I never said otherwise. Did anything I say imply people should or shouldn't date shut ins? Did anything that I said imply that I was trying to contradict you at all? I'm not here to argue with you, I was just making a statement same as you were. I didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:32 PM
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I feel like "you come here often?" has kindof become a meme at this point. I think it's kind of cheesy but I personally wouldn't mind a guy hitting on me with that line. It's good to open up a conversation for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:50 PM
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Well hello neighbor, I also live in the southeast US and yeah it's especially sticky out here because of the whole 'southern hospitality' aspect. Most people are nice on the surface but a lot still hold backwards views/predjudices. But yeah times are for sure changing even here! I definitely do notice that in some people. I mainly date outside of my race and I sometimes get anxious about being seen out with guys I'm talking to. I've even been told I'm 'not black' before because a lot of my frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:44 PM
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I definitely hear you but I'm not asking for any answers. I understand how it is and honestly I've just come to accept it at this point. It doesn't really go both ways, a lot of it is more just one side reacting to the predjudice of the other. A lot of older black families don't want their kids bringing home white people because they don't want their children to be treated the same way they were treated just because they're black. Sometimes my parents tell me stories about how they were literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:48 PM
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That's sweet, thank you! I hope the same for you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:06 PM
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Yeah pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:59 PM
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Experience for me personally. I went through a period of very low self esteem where my standards were incredibly low (edit: basically non-existent). I dated poor, overweight (but not fat), ugly, lonely men, and even average and above men and was treated like a sex doll by nearly all of them. I honestly am just now coming out of that mentality I was in and now I think my shitty dating experiences had more to do with how much I personally allow from partners. My standards are based more on how I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:51 PM
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If the underrepresented guys would go outside more they would get more representation lol... Outside the house is literally reality. Not everyone wants to date a shut in
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:36 PM
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I think what you're missing here is the reason why a lot of black people have that mindset of "it's because I'm black isn't it". I'm black and in my 20's and I can't tell you the amount of times I've been rejected just because of it and explicitly told that that's the reason why. Back in high school (I know) guys would joke about how their parents would "kill them" (or even me) if they ever brought a black girl home. In my adulthood I've had so many guys tell me I'm 'pretty for a black girl' or …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:00 PM
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You answered your own question here lol. I don't know if there is a way out. Social context and social proof is the golden key for all relationships to form... That's your answer right there. The only thing I got from your original post is "water is wet". If you're not in situations where you're meeting people then you're a lot less likely to find a partner. A partner is not going to just materialize out of thin air. I don't think this is a matter of being introverted or extroverted either. I co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:41 PM
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Sorry if I misunderstood, I thought you were implying in your previous comment that that was a way of shaming or correcting the behavior of having back up options. I apologize for assuming that's what you meant. I disagree that men have no power to do this because they literally do this sometimes. And some women do this sometimes as well. What I was saying is that if men were to step up and start shaming women for poor behavior, they probably would gain power in that situation. Thinking about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:19 PM
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But telling your partner to not have friends isn't correcting or shaming the behavior of having backup options. It's literally cutting off their ties to having a healthy functioning social life. If I were to date a guy and he told me I could no longer be friends with my guy friends I'd just tell him to fuck off because those are my friends. I'm not any more willing to cut of my years long friendships with guys than I am with my women friends because they are my FRIENDS. I literally see them as f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:12 AM
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Speaking from personal experience that doesn't happen as often as you'd think. Or maybe just not where I'm from. It takes more than just being flirted with for a straight person to 'get curious'. Have you ever gotten curious about testing your own sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:13 PM
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Yeah there's that but I don't think that many straight women are out there 'being curious'. I could be wrong though. Also bisexual people exist
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:39 PM
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Yeah I hear you, to each her own! I was just addressing where you said "why talk to someone you have nothing in common with" and was answering from my point of view. Obviously it's most likely that no woman wants to talk to a strange man that's been following them around. That sets off alarm bells in my head for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:35 AM
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Yeah I completely agree. I pretty much always meet people either in social environments or through friends. I specifically go out with the purpose of meeting people sometimes lol. And I live in a 'southern hospitality' state so it's kind of just part of the culture here to strike up a conversation with like anyone you make eye contact with. But I get that it's not for everyone. I just don't personally mind it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 01:31 AM
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So you saw a woman get pulled by a lesbian? Doesn't straight for women mean only attracted to men or am I missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:38 AM
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Why the comment about women being self centered? Sorry the only women you communicate with are severely immature ig lmao. And ah okay I was just trying to make a point about how taste is subjective. I think Scarlet Johansson is a pretty recognizable actress that a lot of men rate pretty high up and I think she's like a 6 tops. And funny enough I used to rate her as like a 9. Different strokes for different folks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:35 AM
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Because you don't know how much you have in common with someone until you talk to them? I don't mind being approached because I love talking to strangers and just learning things about different people. Even if it doesn't work out I still think it's cool to talk to someone new. Obviously it's a different story if the guy doesn't have a good vibe though, nobody trusts loners with no social circle or life. I also approach guys myself a bunch. Most of the time it doesn't lead to anything but I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:19 PM
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They're not straight women if they're getting with lesbians lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:08 PM
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But sometimes it doesn't work!!! /s. I think that learning how to take a no helps out a lot too. I'm a woman and I've approached many a man. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't but it's nice to take matters into your own hands and I agree that more women should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:07 PM
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What that other person said and also there's the fact that men are largely the perpetrators of violent crime against both men and women. Most women are literally at a physical disadvantage in these situations while men usually can at least put up a fight. Men are judged for not dressing nice in mostly professional settings while women get judged everywhere for what they wear, including in their own damn homes. Women can't even exist in our natural state without getting shit for it lmao. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:04 PM
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Okay so I guess we're in agreement that as a society we should all be actively discouraging that kind of behavior. It's interesting to see different perspectives about how the world operates. In my experience and from what I've seen, men have a extreme amount of power over women. Men can physically and mentally harm women with little to no repercussions. Men turn down ugly women on the regular and aren't necessarily shamed for doing so. Women generally aren't believed when they speak out against…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:46 PM
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That's not what I asked. Do you agree or disagree with what I said? Shouldnt we be actively discouraging this kind of behavior as a society instead of playing the one-up olympics and giving everyone a pass? "Women do it so men should too!" is not a good strategy for putting a stop to shitty behavior. Men are not completely powerless to stop women from keeping them lined up. Literally just don't line up. Don't date women that are trying to line you up while theyre in a relationship. Shame them if…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:25 PM
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Yes exactly, we are discussing the 'privilege' of women having lots of rebound options. You're the one who started talking about how having male friends = lining men up and I went on to say that 1. having male friends isn't the same as having a roster and 2. having a roster (lining men up) is a shitty thing to do and that men should just stop lining up. Women should also not keep a line. If a woman is trying to add you to her roster, she's an asshole and you should reject her. In the first comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 10:08 PM
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The subject is about actively maintaining multiple options as sex partners. That's what a roster is, and it's what we've been talking about this whole time. Whether the roster be for sexual purposes or romantic. I think that we should, as a society, discourage this behavior for both men and women. From the point of view of anybody, why use people at all? That shouldn't happen and people that do it should be shamed imo. The absolute irony of telling me to have a conversation in good faith when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:09 PM
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I think it's more just the fact that different people have different tastes. And that's okay. Nobody is right or wrong in thinking Zendaya (or anyone) is attractive or not. I honestly think she's at least an 8 or 9 but I don't think you're 'wrong' for rating her a 6. We just have different taste/preferences. Who is a female celebrity that you would rate a 9 or 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:02 PM
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Correct. Tom Holland looks like a kid to me. Attraction is subjective though so it's silly how many people in the comments are arguing whether x celebrity is hot or not. To some people s/he is and to others s/he isn't. Literally nobody is wrong in this thread because taste and type are completely subjective. That's why op's post falls flat. Because while there are some markers that are considered universally attractive, taste still varies on a person to person basis. What culture you grow up in,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:59 PM
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To suggest that women play no part with the powers they have is ignorant and makes no sense. Please explain how exactly women create and uphold the 'privilege' of having multiple options for sex partners. Like what exactly is it that women do that make men line up for them, even when they're in a relationship? What exactly are these 'powers' that we have that force men to line up for us? Maybe I'm just missing something here. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall now lol. How many times can we…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:15 PM
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So you're saying that men line up for women the way they do because they're guilted and shamed into doing so? Idk why you keep saying "unman yourself", I never said that. You're either a man or a woman, there is no unmanning. I'm not blaming men for the poor actions of some women just like I don't blame women for the poor actions of some men. I'm just saying that since there's no way to stop people from being shitty, the best course of action for anyone would be to take preventative steps to try…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 05:15 PM
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Nice switch up. I wasn't changing the subject, I was just concluding my original point. Which was that men are the ones that give women the specific privilege of having a line of men. Women don't exert any power over men to make them line up, they do that themselves without us asking or even wanting that. That's literally it. I hope you have a nice day today and I wish you luck in future relationship endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:41 PM
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Damn man I just typed a whole ass reply to this and then accidentally swiped out of the chat. I don't feel like typing it all out again so I guess I'll just keep this as brief as I can. I think that you're purposely trying to derail this conversation just to vent about your frustration with shitty women. I also am frustrated with shitty people in general. It's literally a shitty world that we live in even though there are some really beautiful parts. You're constantly putting words into my mouth…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:41 AM
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Yeah probably
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 01:00 AM
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No a perfect solution would be for nobody in the world to be an asshole but that's not the world we live in, is it? All I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense to wait on the sidelines to fuck a woman as soon as she gets out of a relationship and then get on the internet to complain about it happening lol. Preventative measures and all that. There's plenty of single people in the world to choose for satisfying your "biological drive"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:34 AM
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Dude seriously, where have I said literally anything that you're attempting to dispute in your comment? Where are these 'claims' that you're saying I made? Go ahead and quote me. I'm not the original person that you were responding to in this thread lmao I've only made two comments here. My point is that without MEN lining up for the position, women wouldn't have anyone to keep around. How is it every woman's fault at all that men are willing to get with women that are fresh out of relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:59 PM
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But we're not talking about general privileges from living in the west, are we? We're talking about op's post and the 'privilege' of women having a multitude of options of men to choose from. I'd prefer to stay on topic here if that's alright with you. If you would use your reading comprehension skills for two seconds you would see that I said in my previous comment that if men want an even playing field they should simply take away that privilege that they gave to us. Idk how else I could 'admi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:23 PM
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But who exactly is giving women these 'special privileges'? Other women? Who exactly is lining up to sleep with us? You guys are the ones so desperate for sex that you're willing to abandon your own self respect and sleep with women that you admit are only out to use you and then you turn around and say that you deserve special privileges for doing so. MEN are the reason women have these privileges, you are the ones who gave them to us. If you want an even playing field then learn some self cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 10:13 PM
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What's stupid is the fact that you are arguing with me about what she meant which was the point of my comment lol. Yes duh obviously more physically attractive men get more attention but what I'm saying is that's not the only factor that takes men out of or puts them in the "no" category. To you it seems like she's clearly referring to physical attraction only because you're looking at this from a MALE perspective. Just because you think hot guys are better than less attractive guys doesn't mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:16 PM
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I'm kind of confused about what you're saying here. I think you're missing the point because you're looking at attractiveness from a male perspective. You think that the "best males" means the best looking/genetics whereas for women there are a lot of factors that go into who gets labeled under that category of "best males". I don't know what you mean by the men don't rate comment, from what I read she said that men do rate, just in a different way than women do. What are you asking about going …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:00 PM
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Oh wow okay. Well good for you that you found something that works and were able to work on yourself! I couldn't imagine living like that but I understand to each his own. Thanks for having this little convo with me btw, this was very interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 03:27 PM
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Oh that's really interesting you say that. I'm actually exactly like that but in relationships specifically towards that person. Do you see it as a problem at all for you? I do for myself and have decided to take a break from relationships to work on myself a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:50 PM
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Yeah it's working for all of us so I don't see anything wrong with it lol. I just realized I never responded to the second half of your last comment. Why would you make friends with women that you wouldn't want to be friends with if they were men? I hold all of my friends to the same standards whether they're men or women, I think that's part of the reason why our friendships work so well. But to be fair I live in a pretty progressive city and get that maybe it might be different elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:28 PM
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Okay? And I would sleep with some of them too in a situation where we weren't friends lol. I had a whole crush on more than one of them when we first met, have slept with one, one has asked me out, etc etc but the reason why I can say that we're friends is because of the intent behind the friendship. It's more like yeah it would be cool if we hooked up or whatever but it's not expected from anyone. None of my guy friends are friends with me just so that they can get in my pants and neither am I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:15 PM
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Just because it's not true for you doesn't mean it's not true for everybody lol. Your experiences are not universal. Im a woman and the majority of my close friends are men. Some of them in relationships. And it's completely platonic with all of them. We're all in the 24-28 age range and i also know people older than that with opposite sex platonic friends. I don't know why that would be such an outrageous idea
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:49 PM
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Being attractive doesn't always equal having top tier genetics though. Go outside to a public area and you will most likely see guys that aren't that attractive walking around with their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:33 PM
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Sex strike only works if the people on strike were having sex to begin with.... I honestly don't see the men that are already getting laid going on strike because they're already getting what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 01:17 PM
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Hi again I didn't realize I never responded to this and I'm responding late as fuck but I'd like to finish the conversation. Why do you feel uncomfortable? You asked me why I don't like people staring at me and I responded it's because it makes me feel uncomfortable. that's just your personal view on it. Of course it is. Id even say it's a general rule of thumb in society to not stare at people but I get not everyone is socialized the same/live in the same society as me. But I personally don't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:54 PM
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Yeah I actually agree. I feel like this post is more trying to just take the 'I deserve' out of dating vocab and I agree with that. Would be nice if we lived in a world where we all prioritize teaching people how to 'people' and about certain dangers and how to avoid them but that's kind of wishful thinking as of right now. Are there not any classes for single people? I think the problem with that would be the amount of heavily biased people that don't have proper credentials teaching people wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:52 PM
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I'm not too worried, I know how to use the google machine haha. I've learned some new things about the situation but fallacy doesn't work on me because I know how to exercise critical thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 08:02 PM
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I think that cosmo (and other sites like it) are primarily focused on writing about whatever they figure would make them the most money. They probably have somebody telling them what to write about. I believe there's been some scandals about journalists being asked to write about things that they don't particularly believe in because it's just a catchy subject. I'd be very surprised to find out that a journalist has ever written about "10 things a man can do to make their smv higher" for the pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:40 PM
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Being financially stable/ having a job that pays well/ less than a 40 hour work week is essential to my happiness but do I deserve that? No not really. I'd like that yes but I'm not entitled to it, I don't deserve it and I only don't deserve it if I don't put in the effort to obtain it and vice versa, I do deserve it because I put in the effort. I love going to live music events and socializing is essential to my happiness but do I deserve to get tickets or to socialize? No. Everyone deserves hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:29 PM
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https://www.masslegalhelp.org/domestic-violence/wdwgfh10/husband-not-father Your husband needs to sign the “presumed father” section of the same form. The form says that he is not the father of your child. If your husband does not sign the form, then legally he is the father and he has to support your child. https://dadsdivorce.com/articles/will-i-have-to-pay-child-support-for-a-child-that-isnt-mine-but-was-born-while-we-were-married/ This one is about michigan in particular and apparently it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:10 PM
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Okay cool so we just have different opinions. And obviously nobody can know how a person really feels, whether they're okay with being alone or not or even their intentions behind posting about their preferences on the internet. To me, it just doesn't seem like something that someone would do unprompted if they're okay with just being alone. If I'm fine with being alone why do I need to tell men what to do to make themselves more attractive in my eyes? I'll just be alone until I find a man that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:49 PM
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Well one, you're wrong. I did in fact skim the source from the person I replied to and even changed my stance lol. I'd like for someone to post some sources that back up what they're saying so that I can actually learn more and/or have my own opinion changed. You understand why it's not smart to just take someone's word for something in a debate right? If I told you that Michael Jordan believes the moon is made of cheeese would you just take my word for it or would you want me to back it up with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:37 PM
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So would you say that means they're... not okay with being alone? Seems like we're in agreement. I just feel like if someone is okay with being alone they'll just do so and not really complain about anybody lacking their wanted qualities or worse, try to tell people to change to better fit what they want out of a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:26 PM
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So women who express preferences are necessarily not okay with being alone? I'd definitely say the ones that post public "open letters" to the opposite sex telling them what they need to change to be more attractive to them aren't okay with being alone. Clearly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:19 PM
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Oh my god dude come on. I know that it's regular behavior, I never claimed it's not. The only reason why I brought that up was to refute to that other person's point that men like op are okay with being alone. They're clearly not if they're on here making whole posts about how women need to change up their behavior for men's benefit. And I'm sorry I didn't realize I was talking to a 12 year old, I never would've gotten into this conversation if I had known. Good riddance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:13 PM
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I'm not going to do shit about it because I don't care about your opinion either lmao. You came to me saying "he's not forcing anyone to do anything" to which I replied that I never said that, I only said that he's telling women what to do (which he is). Whether women tell men what to do more often or not has nothing to do with the fact that he is indeed doing that. I'm not crying or complaining about anything, I just stated that simple fact and you came in all in your feelings about nothing. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:04 PM
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How often women tell men what to do is not relevant in this conversation. Op is in fact telling women what to do here, end of. And he's allowed to do that just as we women are allowed to tell him to fuck off because his opinion is irrelevant to how we live our lives. As far as I can see the only one crying here is you when you come on here screeching "that's his opinion!!!!" to someone that 1. wasn't even talking to you in the first place and 2. never said he isn't allowed to have an opinion, on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:54 PM
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That's your choice to stay with someone that doesn't allow you to have peace of mind. Please link some sources! I'll edit with some of mine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:42 PM
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Did I say I was going to arrest him? He is in fact telling women what to do, even if he's not attempting to force women to do anything and I never said he was lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:41 PM
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That's a good point and I'll change my stance from "you can't be forced" to "there are ways of getting out of being forced to pay for a kid that isn't yours". As I've said many times now, a simple paternity test at birth can squash the issue. It's just on the man to take advantage of his options
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:38 PM
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I don't frequent askwomen or go there at all lol but okay? So what if they say that. Would you rather get divorced after finding out a child isn't yours or be stuck with someone that cheated on you and have to pay for the kid? Would you want to be with someone that won't allow you to take a test just to be sure? I know divorce is a lot more complicated than that but come on lol. Taking a paternity test is still an option and it's up to the man to take advantage of that option. You need the mothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:35 PM
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Word can you post some sources? From what I've seen it's entirely possible to get out of it. In the link you posted that situation could've been absolved by simply getting a test done before representing himself as the father. It's shitty that he's now stuck in that situation but it could've been avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:30 PM
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Read my reply to the other person lol. I think it's shit that there's a limit to getting out of it if the kid isn't yours but it's not impossible to get out of if you do the work. I don't see why men don't just get a parternity test done at birth to squash the issue upfront. They definitely have the option to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:23 PM
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You're acting like it's impossible to de-establish paternity when it's not. https://www.arensonlaw.com/practice-areas/divorce/paternity/ By taking a genetic test that results in above 95% likelihood that you are the father, you can prove paternity. If the results are below 95%, you can deestablish paternity. If you were not married to the child’s mother at the time of the child’s birth, both you and the mother must sign an affidavit to agree on the paternity of the child (an affidavit is a sworn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:18 PM
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That person said nothing about men not being allowed preferences. Just said that women don't care too much if they don't match those strict preferences and would rather not be with a man that has them anyway. That's fair same as it is for men to have them. And apparently some men are not fine with being alone and won't choose that over being with these women since the whole point of the op is telling women what we need to do in order to attract men that we're not even interested in to begin with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:01 PM
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You can't be forced to pay for someone else's kid. Get a paternity test if you're that worried about it. Does it take a bit of work on the man's end to make sure this doesn't happen? Yes. But it's ridiculous to say this as if any random woman can just make any man pay for a kid that's not his. Use protection? Don't have sex? Get a paternity test? Yada yada Edit: Based on some of the replies I change my stance to "There are ways to get out of being forced to pay for someone else's kid" it's not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:54 PM
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No dude not at all. Like I said It happens to men too and often You can't control men's libido and I don't think anyone is really trying to. People just don't like to be treated like all they are is a hot body is all. I dated a guy with a huge dick before and he told me a lot of women only want to date him because of it. That's objectification. I've had men string me along for months who literally couldn't care less about anything about me besides my body. That's objectification. I'm assuming it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:54 PM
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Dildos are obviously phallic yes. Phallic just means something that's shaped like a penis. Cucumbers are phallic as are bananas as are dildos. My friend I said "demographics of who buys sex dolls". Can a disembodied torso be considered a sex doll? Idk but I'm talking about full body ones. Onlyfans creators are not representative of the population of women lol. There are around 170 million women in America and only 1.2 million content creators on onlyfans and some of them are men. Also they're se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:46 PM
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Then those people are wrong. When women complain about being objectified it's usually for a reason. The reason being they're being objectified lol. I can't explain to you the intricacies of how we're treated as a woman but I can say that yes it does happen and we usually know when it happens. It happens to men too and often. There's nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to someone, women are sexually attracted to some men too. The problem comes in when you're being treated like that's all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:30 PM
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I don't think anyone is claiming that men suck at being friends. I think that in the culture we grow up in men are encouraged to suppress their feelings. I still meet men to this day that refuse to show any kind of love to another man. There's no blame in that except for the way that our society is set up to shame men for expressing feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:13 PM
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Okay so you don't personally objectify women then. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If you don't do it then what's the problem with complaining about people that do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:03 PM
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Not all dildos look like dicks lol. Sybians don't resemble men at all, it's just a big machine that vibrates. Unfortunately men don't vibrate. And the point isn't objectification? It's a sex toy. Unless it's one of those ones where it's just a mold of I think the sex dolls fit into that category more than dildos since the whole point of them is to have a "woman" (or man) that you can keep in your closet to fuck whenever you want. And we all know the demographics of who buys sex dolls. But even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:01 PM
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I read it as video games (and tv/porn etc) are actually better than real life, so much so that it's easy to get sucked into. Not necessarily that they're bad but they have a high capacity to be. I agree with them to an extent and feel the same way about dating apps. I think OLD isn't necessarily better than real life but you do get a constant hit of dopamine and it's seemingly easier than actually putting yourself out there in the real world and meeting people or doing things organically. I hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 06:06 PM
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Exhibit A ^
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:54 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I'd like to add that the way the internet and media (entertainment definitely included) are set up now is to influence people and sway their opinions in a certain direction. The term echo chamber comes to mind. Social media sites especially are tailored to showing people more and more things relating to something they've interacted with in the past. These sites see that a person is interested in a certain topic and they know that anger and hurt generate more vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:50 PM
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Ah lol okay thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:26 PM
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What's a spinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:40 PM
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Not the worth of a person, it's judging how good a man is at sex. How good you are at sex (or not) does not equate to your worth as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:18 PM
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Why stay with her if she's just using you though? It's on you if you'd rather stick around and endure it or just move on
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:44 PM
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I don't think society or women are depriving themselves of sex. Women are still sleeping with people they want to sleep with when the person wants to sleep with them too, men as well. I think that sex is a drive. I pretty much agree with you on the rest of this though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:20 PM
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I always wonder about the deleted comments...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:08 PM
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I agree you should definitely vet new friends because like I said you can end up putting a lot of energy and time into someone that doesn't even care about your friendship in the first place. But why did you post this under my comment and not baob's?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 08:14 AM
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I'm just asking for you to post a link to the sources you mentioned here: studies show since OLD started only 20% of single guys have sex on a regular basis.........
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:28 PM
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https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-college-graduates-have-never-had-a-romantic-relationship this reply on quora (includes sources) calculates a rough estimate of the percentage of college students that have never been in a relationship. It's about 37% and that's including men and women. Again, your claim is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:52 PM
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I never did, I said that it's incorrect to say that "men can't get gf's in college" because as you said in your own comment, some of them can. You cannot apply something that less than 50% of men never experience to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:46 PM
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I'd just like to say about the point on income, women that are with a man for his money is not more attracted to him because he has money. If she wouldn't be attracted to him when he's broke then she most likely isn't when he has money either. Chances are she's actually sacrificing her other standards (looks) for the benefit of money. Not saying that every woman that's with a guy that has money is only in it for that reason, but if she's not attracted to him physically/emotionally and is still w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:40 PM
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Are chads not men? If the only guys that have a gf in college are chads... and chads are men... wouldn't that mean that "men can't get gf's in college" is false?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:29 PM
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People don't want to do what they are supposed to do... Having to wear a mask is completely different from having to share your body with someone you don't want to. If someone were to tell you that we should mandate men to date someone of the same sex because he's lonely and sad you would pitch a fit I'm sure. ...all we are asking is for you to date your equal... What would you define as someone's equal? In my eyes everyone is an equal because we're all just humans. I don't see anybody as worth …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:57 PM
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Thanks lol this person has some of the wildest and scariest takes ive seen on here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:04 PM
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In general, though any sort of pressure would be a good thing. That would not be a good thing for women if they're being pressured into doing something. Pressure implies the woman doesn't want to do said thing. You think women should be pushed to be with men they aren't attracted to just to satisfy the man and that that is an okay thing? Women are not objects or some commodity, we're people and we have a right to freedom of choice. Like wtf honestly. Being in a relationship with someone includes…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:34 AM
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No i know what a freelance job is I just don't understand how this relates to the thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:51 AM
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This is an amazing way to describe it lol. It really is a rage mood
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:04 AM
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?? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:52 AM
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i apologize it probably sounded that way... You literally called me dumb lol but it's okay I get it. It's hard to stay civil sometimes in conversations on this sub. I'm sorry for turning it around and calling you dumb in my response as well. Definitely isn't the way to have an open conversation. Repeatedly reminding women this is all their fault. And what do you get for that? Does it change your situation? Does it make a person less lonely and sad to point a finger? And it's not even anyone's "f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:38 AM
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Okay if that's how you feel but you don't need to be so condescending towards me. I understand that you and a lot of other men hate to hear it but working on your own mindset really does do wonders. What's even the alternative, to wallow in misery and resentment forever? This analogy doesn't really work because billionaires got to that point at the expense of poor people. Jeff Bezos, for example off the top of my head, telling poor people they should look inward is fucked up because he literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:02 AM
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Oh dang yeah that's very true and makes a lot of sense! Honestly blew my mind, I've never considered that. Thank you for clearing that up for me. I'd give you an award if I had one!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:43 AM
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What's your take on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:32 AM
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Sorry I should've clarified in america. I can't speak on how they do things in other countries but I can't see how somebody with 4 wives genuinely cares about their feelings. Definitely same for sickos that marry children. Marriage isn't needed anymore for status, wealth and convenience which is why there's so much talk now about marrying for love. And I'm not even talking about like Disney love here I just mean being with someone that you genuinely want to be with. Why follow the old model of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:31 AM
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It hasn't been that way in my experience but I'm sure it is for some. Horny party guys exist everywhere in the world though. They're not just confined to parties so this point is kind of moot. I guess there's a higher concentration of them in that environment but again like I said it's not an issue if you're there with her. What does being in the same place as promiscuous and situationship women have to do with your own partner if she isn't one of them? ...like all her girlfriends are wonderful.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:03 AM
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I don't understand what your point is. Could you clarify? Are you saying that my take on the matter is juvenile?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:31 PM
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What I'm getting from the other poster is that he guys that don't have that same lifestyle don't want to be with a woman that does
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:29 PM
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So busy women that don't prioritize their partner? I still agree that that's not girlfriend material worthy. As well as women that are sleeping around with other men. If you're not interested in being a part of her world and don't care about her interests then why be with her? Maybe it's a generational thing or something. In my eyes a relationship is two people experiencing life together which includes fun stuff. Guys that like to vacation and party probably don't reject women that also like to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:24 PM
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Very weird if it's just for validation. Maybe some women truly don't care about it and are polyamorous or something. Yeah I know other women are into it but it's rare enough where I'm from to be considered just a fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:09 PM
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I don't really think that has to do with intelligence at all. I wouldn't want to be with someone that I have to beg to give me a chance in the first place. That's pitiful which is also a very unattractive trait. If they're not interested in me to begin with then it's just on to the next unless we already know each other well enough and will continue to hang around each other anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:54 PM
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I wouldn't want there to be other wives at all or to be seen as a possession lol. This sounds like a male fantasy version of what women want
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:51 PM
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You can't know that but you also don't want to date someone that isn't looking for the same thing as you. Hence telling people to swipe left or rejecting them if they don't want to go that route
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:46 PM
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I'm just explaining why I don't see it as settling. No mental gymnastics involved. And not every man has the same mindset as you. Just because you aren't attracted to women in that age range doesn't mean all men aren't as well. Guys always have options? What's the point here? A man in his 20s can cheat or leave same as a man in his 40s and up. Everybody has options actually. There's always going to be someone out there better than you so why does anyone want to date anyone if this is a reason fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:35 PM
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It sounds like your definition of hot girl summer women are just women that aren't actually interested in a relationship or the guy and/or just plain busy. I agree that's not girlfriend material! I think that a woman just living her busy and fun life can still be girlfriend material though. The difference is in whether she wants to include the guy in her plans. Would you still consider it hot girl summering if the same woman did all that stuff and had all those plans but intentionally tried to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:23 PM
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Because I personally see relationships as just between two people. Commitment is important to me. And also when I'm in a relationship I don't want to be with anyone else, I devote my full attention to him and I only want to be with men that have the same values. Not every man is going to bang other women or even wants to. I just wouldn't want to be with a man that does, especially not if we're supposed to be committed. But that's just how I see it! I'm sure some women don't mind and I'm not judg…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:13 PM
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The point is that for some women it's not 'settling' because the end goal is not 'getting a HVM'. It's being fine with being single and only entertaining a relationship if it's deemed to be of value. And not everybody wants to only be with people in their "prime". It depends on the person themself to say whether they're settling or not. If you're happy with what you have it's not settling for less, it's being happy with what you have. It doesn't have to be perfect because perfect is unrealistic.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:04 PM
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I'm convinced men that think that don't actually care about the woman or how she feels at all, and only care about getting the tiniest crumb of validation or something. Or just sex. I don't see how a man could want to be with someone that clearly isn't into them. It's honestly a terrible feeling and you have to completely disregard the other person's feelings to force a relationship with them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:51 PM
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I'm sure resentful men could destabilize society but the issue is the fact that they're resentful in the first place instead of looking inward and finding happiness while being alone. It's not women's standards that need to give, it's the idea that the world should be catered to men to 'keep them from being bitter and resentful by settling with them!" Then women would be bitter and resentful about being with a man out of pity. It's possible to be okay with being single and it honestly feels a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:42 PM
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This is a very dramatic way of saying you're fine with being single. It sounds like you're not who op was talking about. And they're not saying "those poor men"?? They're saying they need to take the same route as women so they don't end up sad later in life. Focus on something other than the fact that they're single because doing so leads to misery
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:28 PM
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Right I keep seeing people bring up this harem thing and how women love it but I've never heard a woman say they like that in my life. Actually most of the women I know adamantly hate the idea of that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:23 PM
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I think that this is more of a polyamorous women thing than just an overall women thing. All of the non polyamorous women in my life would not be cool with their man having a chick on the side if they're in a relationship. For me it used to be different for hookups because you're not actually with the guy but I know a lot of women that wouldn't even be cool with a hookup sleeping with other people. And I feel that way too now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:20 PM
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Can I ask what are traits that keep guys around in your opinion? Like what do you consider "girlfriend material" and how does "hot girl summering" (?) influence how she fits into that category?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:11 PM
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Can I ask your age? It's not about having things in common it's about having the same maturity in thought processes. I'm 24 and know some 20 year olds and I can feel a clear difference in mental maturity between us. And even more so for people under 20. Some people are more mature for their age and I don't see a problem with them dating someone that's older who's on the same level of maturity as them. But a 15 year old is on a completely different level to a 19 year old as is a 20 year old to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:45 PM
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How is it gross to consider a 6 year old a baby but not to consider a 16 year old a child? 16 year olds don't properly know how to manage relationships and typically have no adult life experience in terms of cognitive development so they're vulnerable if they're dating an adult who does. Any adult dating a child is either directly or indirectly manipulating them. I do think it's a +/- thing from 18-20 years old though since people mature at different rates but it's around 20 when people start to…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:30 PM
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I'm not going to do that. I don't use the tinder or bumble app anymore and also those stats don't reflect the entire population of men. You only said since OLD started... I'm asking you to link the studies you've seen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:44 PM
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I used to have a small list of things in guys' pictures that I would automatically swipe left on. Having stacks of cash in any of his pictures was always an automatic no for me back when I used to use OLD. It's too flashy for me, I don't like guys that flaunt their money. Not trying to speak for all women here though, just sharing my personal opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:47 PM
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Example of the fact that women make compromises in attraction in their LTRs. I don't see how this is relevant, could you clarify? Yeah women make compromises on some things, especially when it comes to looks. I don't believe it's uncommon. I don't think the muscularity thing really backs up your point here though since being muscular doesn't automatically = being attractive. That seems explicitly aimed at changing the other person's behavior to me. It's not. I don't want to be with a guy that ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:55 AM
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I wonder if there are significant differences in standards and the way women approach them based on what generation they are. Maybe I just live in a bubble or something but the majority of women I've met in my life don't think like that. Most of the women that i know of are older women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:32 AM
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Okay thanks for the response! And I'm sorry to hear you've had bad luck with female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:24 AM
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Okay. Can you link the studies you mentioned in your previous comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:22 AM
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Okay thanks for the clarification! And it's not hard to believe, I already do. I think we just have different ideas about what makes a person high value
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:20 AM
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It depends on how strong the feelings are. But I'm talking about constant absence not just every now and then. And I mean lose feelings as in lose interest. I should've said that instead
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:18 AM
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Yeah a predictable formula for entertainment not reality. Movie and tv show tropes are fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:14 AM
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So you think that women have this checklist in their head to judge every potential partner and that if he lacks even one of these then she's dissatisfied in her relationship and settling? And also you think that every man that a woman has had casual sex with has all or the majority of these qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:27 PM
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I'm talking about women that are friends with men and vice versa. Maybe some people do that but I don't. Back in my college days it was a thing but I've come to realize it doesn't work most of the time and it also can cause trouble. What does the hallmark channel have to do with this? Okay a lot of women like that specific form of entertainment? It's not indicative of real life. I love the lifetime movie network movies as do a lot of people but I wouldn't like my best friend sleeping with my man…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:22 PM
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It's pretty clear that women sleep with more muscular men for short term vs long term relationships What was this an example of? ...holding out on you but not other men is partially predictive of both I don't think it's predictive at all because of the fact that it could be for any other reason besides those two. I'll just agree to disagree on this point. You specifically said in your previous comment that they start seeing you as more of a LTR option... Where did I say that? And would you consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:14 PM
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You're forgetting the fact that he blew up on her for just not knowing that he was into her. She doesn't even say that she rejected him in the op. You really think she wouldn't care about him being aggressive and weird as hell like this if he was attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:56 PM
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I'm not trying to convince anyone anything I'm just explaining. I already know you disagree with me and that's fine, I'm just trying to help you understand my point of view. I get where you're coming from now. You think that women decide to stop having sex on the first date with the purpose of making men see them a certain way or to make men change their behavior. This isn't always the case and I don't think it even is the majority of the time. Women stop having sex on the first date because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:48 PM
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Hi again lol. If the friendships were a transaction what were you expecting to get out of the deal? Or what were you getting out of the deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:16 PM
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Depends on a lot of things. Obviously if it's possible money/time wise. If it's like a friend of a friend that I'm cool with then yes. Someone I hang out with in a group setting of coworkers (non work related) yeah probably. If it's an emergency and I'm able usually yes. Honestly it's usually yes if I feel comfortable around them. Someone I really like that's just an acquantance yes but because I naturally would like to help them and want to spend that time with them. I don't do things to get pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:10 PM
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Good on you for not speaking to her anymore, you dodged a bullet. Some people are downright rude and shitty. If she says something like that about you to someone else while you're standing right there I don't think she saw you as much of a friend in the first place. It's really tough having someone you thought of as a friend straight up disrespect you like that and then realizing they were never your friend to begin with. That being said though I don't think this is a defined trait of women that…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:02 PM
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The hoe phase (for lack of a better phrase) is a thing. It's entirely possible and common for women to change their stance on having sex on the first date. Personally, I used to do it often but I've found that doing so usually leads to the guy only wanting to have sex or losing respect for me. So now I choose to wait a bit. And it can go the other way for people too. It just depends on whether or not you're looking for a ltr. I don't see it as playing a game, more as vetting which is important w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:52 PM
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Okay, I'm not dissing your methods here. I'm just saying that I don't think it's correct that a woman not having sex on the first date automatically infers that it's because she's less attracted. Sometimes it means that and you usually can tell by how she acts and her body language towards you. Some women really do just want to wait to have sex though even if the man is the most attractive guy you've ever met
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:16 PM
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Speak for yourself please. Not everyone sees other people as metaphorical dollar signs. There are people that do things for other people without expecting something in return. They're called nice people. It's incredibly selfish to go through life doing favors for people only so that you can get something out of it. You really think people only do good for others just to feel like a good person? Do you do that? There are actual good people in the world you know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:12 PM
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...you can reasonably infer that you probably don't inspire that same desire. Not necessarily because people can and do change. You said so yourself in this comment that women can even very much so want to have sex and still show restraint. Whether she slept around before or not is irrelevant because it's what she's done in the past and not what she's doing now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:04 PM
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Same here. Absense makes me lose feelings for the person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:49 PM
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What do you do different in a friendship with a woman vs a friendship with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:44 PM
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Maybe for some people. Me and my friends don't try to help each other find someone to date because that's awkward as hell lol. And we definitely don't just up and date each other for the sake of "helping a friend". Thats not how relationships work, getting into one is not a favor to be given
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:41 PM
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What kind of toxic behavior do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:31 PM
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She never said if he's attractive or not, just that they're acquaintances. Unattractiveness isn't the problem in this situation, it's the fact that he set up this interaction as a transaction without letting her know. Doing a favor with the intention of getting something out of it is creepy behavior whether you're attractive or not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:18 PM
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They should say "I see you as more than a friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:09 PM
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Can you link the studies? I just looked it up and can't find anything other than pages that say the number of adults that haven't had sex is around 30%. Unless you're talking about the OLD studies which don't reflect the majority of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:01 PM
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So the solution is to get in a relationship and then cheat? Instead of just not getting into a committed relationship at all? I'm trying to understand but this concept seems absurd to me. If there's no one worth committing to then why commit? It seems so simple, just don't commit and be honest with your partner that you have no intentions of committing. Men don't HAVE TO be in a relationship. Choosing to hurt someone by way of cheating because you got into a relationship knowing fully well that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:16 PM
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What do you consider a high value man? And what would you consider as fully satisfied in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:07 PM
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Question, do you think thats justified? Why not just have non committal sex then instead of getting into a relationship with someone you (not you specifically unless you do that) don't want to be with and then cheat? It seems like there's two options here if sex is necessary and you're looking for a partner that meets your standards: have casual sex until you find someone worth settling down with or jump into a relationship with someone you don't actually want to be with and cheat. Only one of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:46 AM
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I think if you just want to have sex with someone there's nothing wrong with saying that. It's a lot better than telling a lie to spare their feelings. Not that it's cool to be super blunt or rude about it or anything. Also nothing wrong with not saying anything at all? Unless they ask, then just tell the truth. I'd much rather have a guy I hit on tell me "I only want to have sex" so that if I do* too I know it's a match and if I don't then it's not a match and I know that. Much better than a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:50 PM
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Why lie at all though? What harm does it cause to just say "I didn't want to have sex on the first date"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:45 PM
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Honestly thank you for saying that, really something to think about. I have some mild anxiety so I learned how to suppress my emotions a little bit when it comes to interacting with people in my life. That's a really good point about there being something driving the insecurity but sometimes it really is just in your head. Nothing wrong with taking precautions though. I think we should figure out what's driving it specifically and then go from there. It's not always driven by something actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:38 PM
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Lol you're still the cuck. It seems to me that BP men do know their gf has had sex in the past but they know how to manage their emotions and not let their insecurities lead them down a path of distrust based on pure assumption. I don't like the idea of my hypothetical boyfriend having had sex with other women and the idea that he thinks other women are attractive so I get it but I realize that's literally just based on my own insecurity and I choose to work on it instead of letting my stupid je…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:55 PM
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Can I add a wild concept? Sometimes (probably most of the time) people get into relationships because they actually like the person they're with. Do you think men really suck that bad that it's not possible for a woman to actually like them and be in a relationship with them for a reason other than just to use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:44 PM
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Not necessarily. I can't speak for other women but for me the main draw to porn is seeing people get off (mainly the woman) instead of my own sexual attraction to the actors. I prefer to see two attractive people in a video but watching porn isn't really fantasizing about sleeping with the guy in a video or being aroused by him. Most of the guys in porn aren't attractive at all in my opinion and a lot of straight videos focus more on the woman and don't even really show the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 04:22 PM
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I read through the comments specifically to find someone make this argument. I think the problem with the body positivity movement is the emphasis on women being fuckable to men. Putting a fat lady in a pin up outfit and saying "look how sexy and desireable she is!!!" doesn't really help anyone. It opens the doors for more people to shame her. Instead of just focusing on the angle of fat people are human just like everyone else and while it can cause issues with health they shouldn't necessarily…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:54 PM
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You already have that right if you're in America. Why don't we push for men to all go buy discreet paternity tests instead of for the government to mandate it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:23 PM
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The person you're replying to is saying that men can just order a paternity test without the mother knowing and this is okay because the mother doesn't have a right to control the man's medical procedures and tests. They're just saying the man has a right to privacy. ...why should mom's interests and decisions completely override his? This is the point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:10 PM
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I think there are too many factors that go into it to determine whether they made the right decision or not. I think it's up to an individual whether they want to "continue their genes" or not. Like sure it's our biological drive to do it but in the world we live in it's not necessary and it definitely doesn't determine whether you're smart or not. As evidenced by your own source lol. "Continuing your genes" just isn't something that everyone wants and if you do want to but wait too late it suck…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:17 AM
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I love that movie! But it is just a movie after all and the importance here isnt that less intelligent people shouldn't have kids so much as it's that people that aren't properly ready to take care of kids should wait to have them until they are. If the intelligent couple doesn't feel like they're ready to have kids then they should wait. I think that shows their intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:07 AM
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And that sucks but having a kid and forcing yourself and a kid into ruin because you didn't wait until you're ready is probably worse. It would be selfish to have a kid before youre ready to have one just because you want to have a kid. I'm sure it works out for some people but it's really irresponsible
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:57 PM
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O sorry it wasn't my intention to talk about any of that at all. I was just saying that being confident is just being comfortable in who you are. It's not about achieving goals because the goal of confidence is being comfortable with yourself, if you are confident you have achieved that goal. I don't even mean it in the context of being confident about x thing (being a unique special snowflake), just being confident in yourself in general. Sexual marketplace success can come from confidence but …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:08 PM
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No lol the point is that confidence is not based on other people AT ALL. When you're confident in yourself "results" based on other people are not necessary because the results of being confident are completely personal. And people can like you because you're confident but if they don't it doesn't matter because you're self fulfilled. Being happy with yourself despite what other people think about you is confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:29 PM
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That's the point of confidence though. Finding value in yourself despite what other people think about you. Basing your worth on what other people think about you is the opposite of confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:19 PM
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How do you know this though? It doesn't make sense to claim that you know what all women do or think. Seeing men on here keep saying awalt is getting really old
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 02:01 PM
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Has this been your personal experience in dating? This is really sad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:58 AM
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That doesn't say that women hold on to negative emotions more than men though. It just says women expend more energy to suppress emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:43 AM
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Right. I really don't understand the need for some guys on here to push so hard for the idea that all women think that way instead of just realizing that some women are like that and those particular women are shitty. There are good women in the world and preaching the awalt view does nothing but push them away
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:24 AM
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Women should also learn as well We are in agreement. I don't think that it's necessarily any one person's problem to resolve though. Isn't that just part of being in a relationship? Dealing with each other's emotions and supporting each other? Not necessarily just one person expecting the other to resolve anything. I don't see it as a double standard for me personally because I don't think it's fair for either party to not support the other. And I don't see a problem with telling your partner th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 12:15 AM
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I don't think anyone here is saying men HAVE TO learn how to do anything to impress women. Or at least if they are I strongly disagree. I think that learning how to deal with other people's emotions is a good social skill to have in general and I'm sure it would help a ton in a relationship. Women should also learn as well. I don't think it's even a matter of one sex learning it to impress the other, it's just a useful life skill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:23 PM
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For me it's like "my car broke down but I already have an appointment to get it repaired." Sometimes people really do just want to talk about their problems without the person they're talking to trying to fix it for them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:15 PM
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Can you explain exactly what you mean when you say "strict monogamy"? I see that you said "no men having casual sex" which implies women are also not allowed to have casual sex and that would very clearly be taking away people's choice of what they do with their own body which, again, is absurd. Does a man getting married... Obviously not but that's not what you're implying here, just simply men getting married. If I'm wrong please elaborate better on what you mean by "strict monogamy". Men alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:19 AM
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My point in saying that is that there are alternatives to taking away women's freedom of choice. I thought that was obvious but apparently it wasn't so I've spelled it out for you. You clearly refuse to read my sources and now you've resorted to hyper focusing on my anecdotal experiences and calling women "chad's cum rag" as if that itself is at all relevant to the topic or even an appropriate thing to say. You were proven wrong about only 20% of men being wanted and you believe that women shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:51 AM
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I don't know if you're trolling or what at this point but we're no longer debating here. What's the point in me giving points if you're just going to respond with "k" and "cool" as if you're a child? I have nothing more to say to you if you can no longer argue in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:29 AM
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Are you serious? "Allegedly"? Have you read the sources or at least skimmed them? If about 70% of men are in relationships and over 80% of men aged 20-24 have had sex then clearly more than 20% of men are "actually desired by women". It's time to admit that you were wrong and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:20 AM
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having a family and a spouse So you propose that women should have no choice in who they decide to marry and have a family with? How does that work exactly? No there aren't. Men can work out. They can learn how to better groom themselves. They can climb the corporate ladder since the men here always preach about how women are only attracted to money. Hell they can even wear makeup and heels or get plastic surgery. Just because they refuse to pursue their options doesn't mean the options aren't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:10 AM
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Math. If 14% of men aged 20 to 24 are virgins that would mean that 86% of men aged 20 to 24 have had sex. If 31% of men in America are single that means that 69% are not single. This does not line up with your claim that women only chase after 20% of guys. If you read the sources I posted you can see a more detailed breakdown. I won't continue this debate until you actually read the sources I linked. Not doing so is just bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 01:50 AM
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No i can't. All it takes is a bit of skimming to get the point. Most of the stuff is on very easy to read charts. You say my only evidence is anecdotes yet when I post actual sources you don't want to read them. It's literally only two sources. They're there whenever you're ready to read them. You're incorrect in saying that women are only vying for the same 20% of men since only about 30% of men in America are single and only about 14% of men aged 20-24 are virgins. Why would that not be the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:57 AM
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Yeah exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:21 PM
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There definitely COULD be. https://www.dentalassociates.com/blog/hate-flossing-these-5-things-will-change-your-mind the floss analogy isn't as solid as you think. A man who was cheated on by a high n count woman doesn't care if it was her n count or something else. Yeah because cheating sucks. Obviously you'd be pissed either way. But that isn't always the reason for divorce. And also it's not always the woman that cheated if someone did. it's still wise to avoid high n is it not? No it's not if…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:20 PM
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The majority of women are vying for the same 20% of men Incorrect. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/ Strict monogamy is an extremely unlikely hypothetical situation. Is being single not an option? It's not like there's one man for every woman in the world so I think a lot more women would just be single. You seem to have confused... I did indeed but it still…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:07 PM
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Okay so now you're changing your argument? This was your original statement: Studies on n count clearly show the sex people have with strangers effect them when you meet them No the studies do not clearly show that. And now you're saying "well they COULD" when that was not your initial statement. Sure strangers having sex COULD affect you in the same way that the weather patters in 1980 could have affected my birth. The studies you have posted do not and cannot prove your initial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:46 PM
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Is it women's fault they don't find incels attractive? No but it is their CHOICE to not date or fuck them same as it is men's CHOICE to not date or fuck high n count women. They are being affected by their own action (their choice) ...it's constantly being test driven by chad Then why not beat chad to the lot to buy it before he gets a chance to test drive it? Chad isn't test driving lamborghinis 24/7 I can assure you. When did I make this argument? I didn't Which the people who complain about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:36 PM
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Show me where I said that it disproves that there is a causation? I literally just said that more variables would need to be taken into account in order for the study to definitively prove causation. Nowhere did I say it disproves. The studies are faulty because they don't take into account any other factors. Please look up the rotten food and fly example. You can't just say that because there's correlation it proves that there is causation because it doesn't. If those two studies are all there …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:21 PM
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The point im making is that we don't know the causation based on that study alone. The woman having a high n count may or may not have an effect on the divorce rate. It's just simply true that high n count people are more statistically likely to get divorced. It could just be coincidence or it could be an actual risk factor but we can't know just based on the information provided by the study alone. And I think that if I knew the reason why the machines would kick me in the nuts I might change w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:55 PM
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Your evidence must be studies that control for other possible variables because you are the one that posted the study and the one that made the initial claim that n count having correlation with higher divorce rate proves that the sex lives of strangers can have an effect on a person. I will admit this conversation got a lot more detailed and in depth than was originally intended. I should've just said that isn't a valid source and been done with it. You say my evidence is based on anecdotes tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:51 PM
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Right like there are so many other factors that could be at play. I don't think he understands how the scientific process works. Even the article itself says that n count COULD increase the odds of divorce, not that it absolutely does
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:35 PM
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Men don't choose to feel disgust at n count No but they do actively choose to reject high n count women. Is that not men's choices affecting them instead of the women? I should be able to afford a Lamborghini but they are always letting Chad drive them for free so I can't purchase one as they are always being test driven by the same 20% of guys Then it would be you actively not choosing to have a Lamborghini because some stranger got to test drive it. That is your choice affecting you because yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:29 PM
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You forgot one! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4085758/amp/Experts-reveal-sexual-partners-ve-determine-likely-DIVORCE.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:14 PM
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My point is just that having slept with a bunch of people in the past doesn't always mean that a person won't be capable of being happy in a current relationship. Through what mechanism could chocolate [a]ffect relationship happiness My point exactly! There are other factors that could be at play. Just because that one factor is statistically more likely doesn't mean that it is the cause or that it has significance. The purpose of my anecdote was just to say that attraction isn't the only factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:12 PM
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Do you understand what causation and correlation are? A machine kicks you in the nuts after you turn it on. You assume that because the machine kicked you in the nuts after you turned it on that it was made to do that (correlation). You did not take into account that the machine had a short in the wire which caused it to do that (causation). But I'd pick the 3rd machine ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:56 PM
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That's the not interested person's choice It is the choice of the man (let's just say men and women since it's easier for you) to not date a woman with high n count. That is the man removing a woman from his supposedly already scarce pool. You can't see n count Then how does it affect men dating high n count women? If a woman could lie or just not tell him what her n count is then how does her n count itself affect him? Since you can't just see it. because more attractive people are readily avai…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:48 PM
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Yeah I kindof got that just from talking to them. I honestly don't know why I even continue to debate some people on here when they don't even understand things like why this study based off one factor alone isn't sound
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:15 PM
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And the main reason for such trends to develop is to look better/sexier to the opposite gender You are running under the assumption that cute clothes=things that men find sexy. Sometimes I like to wear big oversized baggy jeans or even men's sweatpants a size too big with an equally oversized baggy sweatshirt. I have a stack of sweaters that used to belong to my dad that I love to wear because I think they're cute and comfortable. I doubt men find my dad's old clothes sexy lol but somehow my sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:12 PM
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I don't have a vested interest in denying that high n count could lead to unhappiness and divorce, I just said that I'd like to see more details and more studies that can back it. I have a vested interest in making sure that studies are completely factual and sound. I love the phrase "correlation does not equal causation" because it's true. If a study proposes an idea and only takes into account ONE possible factor im most likely going to question it until I see more data to back it up. See the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:49 PM
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They would not be interested in them BECAUSE of their n count That's the not interested person's choice. If they already aren't attracted to people with a high n count then no it doesn't really affect them. They arent obtaining partners because women are forming de facto Chad harems This isn't true. They aren't obtaining partners because women aren't attracted to them. Has nothing to do with women being promiscuous. You could even argue that promiscuous women affect men more so in the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:20 PM
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I don't think it could be considered as a significant risk factor without taking into account any other factors. That's like when people used to think that rotten food is where flies came from. "Well it's statistically more likely for flies to be on rotten food than not so it must be a significant factor in where they come from!" Probably not the best analogy but hopefully you get where I'm coming from. Just because more people with high n count got divorced doesn't mean their n count played a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:48 PM
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I want to continue this debate but it seems like you're too far gone. And I really mean that with no offense to you. You are a man, how would you know what "most women" like and want? Everything we do is not for the pleasure of men. Most of the time it's just something we like to do. For me personally I dress in cute clothes because I just really like cute clothes. I could go to a girlfriend's house to have dinner with her and we both dress to the nines because we just like to dress up nice. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:39 PM
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Right and my comment isn't even taking into account the amount of times that women get ogled in the gym when they're not even wearing revealing clothes. Some men really do think that women exist for the sexual pleasure of men and it's really weird and dehumanizing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:21 PM
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I'll respond to your more detailed comment about the effects to the other person in this thread. Thank you for posting a study! Correlation doesn't equal causation though and this is just one article (by the daily mail no less) so I'm still skeptical. Also the article says only 33% of the divorced women had more than 10 partners (correct me if I'm wrong) so I'd say that's not a large enough number to think higher n count has a significant impact on the divorce rate. Virginal partners could be at…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:18 PM
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It doesn't make her feel good about herself because most of the time women don't go to the gym to get attention or for their beauty to be appreciated. Women go to the gym to work out and it's uncomfortable to be stared at by anyone, especially if it's for unwanted sexual attention. Also if op is saying she likes the women's only gym because she can wear cute clothes there without being stared at then obviously she's not wearing the clothes for male attention, she's wearing it because she likes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 05:04 PM
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You just have what? I'm just asking you to explain how exactly it can affect someone because I'm curious. And no I haven't seen the studies, can you please post some of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:50 PM
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Right I keep seeing guys on here talk about single women over 30 that have cats as if it's a bad thing. It's actually preferred for some women, myself included lol. I'd like to have cats whether I'm single or not. I had a guy say "that's how you end up an old cat lady" like thanks for the advice I'll keep doing what I'm doing then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:48 PM
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Could you explain how the n count of a stranger can personally affect someone? And can you also post some of the studies you referenced?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:42 PM
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I'm not comparing our situations at all lol I'm just sharing my experience. And "the chance to be used" isn't something that you would want, coming from someone that it's happened to. It honestly sucks worse than just being alone in the first place. I feel like the male equivalent to my situation would be the actual friend zone where a woman keeps a guy around as a just in case option. It just feels bad either way. For me personally just being alone is a lot better since I'm comfortable and conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:22 AM
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Why dislike the opposite sex because some of them arent being interested in you? That's just the way attraction (or non attraction) works. And there's no such thing as "the one", just people that are and aren't attracted to you and how dating ends up just depends on the amount of work both sides put in. I've been rejected a bunch of times and also have been used by a lot of guys but I don't dislike all men because of it. I dislike the fact that I'm not attractive to some people and the guys that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:11 AM
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What about the cop that died from people beating him? And I don't think people chanting to hang mike pence could be considered peaceful. They even put up a makeshift noose
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:13 PM
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Please read what I said. ...wouldnt it be exploitative and abusive by nature to DATE them? I did not say to engage with them. If women are equivalent to children in your eyes then dating a woman is no different than dating a child. DATING a child or someone that is equivalent to a child is abusive and exploitative. Goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:21 PM
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So you've spoken to every woman on the planet okay. If all women have the mental capacity of children then why would you date them? If women's minds are the equivalent to those of children then wouldn't it be exploitative and abusive by nature to date them? Would you date a child or do you consider that abusive? I think it would help you to talk to an actual woman so that you can broaden your own experience. It's sounds like maybe you are the one that can't get past your own emotions and lack kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:55 AM
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So I proved his point which is No woman's pussy ever got wet over a man's character by saying that I'm now attracted to people I wasn't attracted to before because I got to know their character? So what happened here is that you read my post but somehow completely missed the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:59 AM
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I think it's abusive to date a person that you very well know isn't competent enough to be in a relationship or who lacks any knowledge about life. It sounds like who you're describing is a child. Stop dating immature women maybe and you wouldn't have this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 02:56 AM
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Is me saying women aren't perfect beings... sometimes we fall for guys that don't give a shit about how we feel not acknowledging shit that is real life? Which part of real life am I not acknowledging? "Chads"? And I never asked you to play any bullshit games lol I'm not playing a game and I wasn't even replying to you in the first place?? You don't have to do anything you don't want to do here. I clearly was responding to what mr holyregime said, not to the original post. And to be fair, you ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:50 PM
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Because 1 - some men lie and are damn good at it. Also women aren't perfect beings and just like anyone else, sometimes we fall for guys that don't give a shit about how we feel. And 2 - "chad" isn't real. That whole stereotypical character is just that, a character created by men that can't get laid so they have someone to blame for it instead of analyzing what it is about them that women don't like. But back on topic, if you had the option of dating a woman that you know is only using you or j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:39 PM
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Serious question, did you stop reading after I said theyre attractive? I said immediately after that I didn't find them attractive when I first met them and the only reason why I do now is because I know their character lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 03:56 PM
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That doesn't make the right itself flawed lol. Even if you can't bang anyone you want you can still bang only the people that you want. Key word here is "choice"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:52 PM
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Nah "females" makes our hair stand on edge because a lot of men that use that term are a certain type of man. I'm sure "males" makes some men uncomfortable for the same reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:50 PM
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Yeah some fathers really need to start stepping up!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:43 PM
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That's literally just what dating is like. Not everyone is going to get a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:13 PM
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If I'm looking for a relationship then I'd rather get no dates then to date "chad" who never commits. If what you're looking for is commitment then meaningless sex has no value. This seems like common sense to me. The outcome is the same in this scenario so why would I choose being used and no relationship over no relationship and my own solitude? I think a lot of men on here simply don't understand how women think lol. "Chad" who just fucks you and leads you on is in no way shape or form a priz…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:05 PM
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...I guess the majority of the human species is insecure? Can't say the majority, but you're correct that a lot of both men and women are insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:58 PM
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Mine has lol. I can count a few times that I accidentally got turned on from one of my guy friends saying or doing something completely non sexual. Also like all of my friends are very physically attractive to me (not necessarily in a sexual way) even though I didn't think a lot of them were attractive at all when I first met them. It's because of their character. Not sure if most women can relate or not but at least one woman in the world is like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:33 PM
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This is a meme thing I'm pretty sure. It's kind of complicated to understand but I think the general gist of it is that the point is to upset homphobic men. I used to see a bunch of people say stuff like that on tumblr and 9 times out of 10 it was directed at a homophobe. It goes along the same lines as the joke "fellas, is it gay to..." The punchline is homophobic men, not gay men. It's iffy though because it's still calling someone gay to upset them but idk
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:01 PM
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They are anti slut shaming but shame men who fuck women carelessly and without regard for how they feel The difference here is that they're shaming those men for using people, not for having a bunch of sex. Or at least that's how it is for me personally and for people that I know. When women are slut shamed it's more because people tie women's worth to how many partners they've had (which is gross imo). I agree with most everything else you said though. It's really crazy to see how some people f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:54 PM
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Not disconnected because without the cheating it couldn't exist in the first place. I'm just saying paternity fraud is the woman's choice. Her making that choice to cheat is the problem. Same as her decision to lie and commit fraud is the problem. But the problem with her cheating is not that she COULD lie in the future. It's that she made the choice to cheat in the first place that's the problem. It's bad whether or not she then decides to lie about it later. It doesn't make the cheating better…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:14 PM
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I didn't say paternity fraud is only bad because of "the lie" whatever that is. Paternity fraud IS "the lie". I'm saying that that lie doesn't make the act of cheating worse because cheating is already bad. The cheating is bad and the fraud is bad, separately. You're just not understanding the point of my logic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:05 PM
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I think the disconnect in opinion here stems from the fact that you don't think the act of cheating itself is bad. I'm not talking about an open relationship situation, I'm talking about being in a committed and exclusive relationship with someone where a person entering the relationship agrees to be with their spouse and their spouse only and then goes on to sleep with someone else. It's a huge breach of trust and can fuck a person up and not even just in their relationship. I'm sure if it happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:01 PM
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Because it's cheating. It's breaking your partner's trust and the promise of commitment that you made to them. And it hurts. (And just to clarify I'm only talking about monogamous couples here, I have no experience or authority to speak on polyamory.) I think it's better to tell your partner afterwards if you cheat but that doesn't make the fact that you cheated in the first place any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:53 PM
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Have you not read anything that I've said? Lol I have said so many times here that THE ACT OF CHEATING itself is bad whether the potential outcomes are bad or not. It seems to me that your own stance is that cheating is only bad because of the later potential for lying. (When I say lying I'm talking about the paternity fraud) You can't say cheating is bad for women to do because it's possible for her to then lie and do other bad things to further hurt her spouse. It's not bad because of that, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:45 PM
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I'm not trying to decouple cause and effect. I just don't believe that committing fraud is caused by cheating. Sure the situation is only possible BECAUSE OF the cheating but a woman choosing to lie and say the kid is his when it's not is caused by the woman deciding to lie. It's not caused by the act of cheating itself. If it was then every woman that cheats would do it. No cheating no baby to LIE about It's the decision to lie in the first place that causes it. And once again not every act of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:39 PM
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It's not the act of sharing needles that's bad, it's the fact that you could catch something. You can share a needle with someone that you know is clean (if you're clean as well) and that wouldn't be bad. It's not a consequence because you have the choice of finding out who the father is and being honest with everyone involved. Those are choices. The choice to tell them or not is a separate issue not a direct consequence. The choice to not tell them is what paternity fraud is. If it's a separate…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:29 PM
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False analogy. The point here is that committing paternity fraud is a separate choose from cheating and therefore doesn't make the ACT OF CHEATING ITSELF worse or better. Sharing needles isn't inherently bad. It's the potential for catching disease after doing so that is dangerous. Cheating is inherently bad. It's not the potential for the separate choice of fraud after doing so that makes it bad. And also question, do you believe paternity fraud is the worst potential outcome for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:16 PM
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If you know the person has a disease and you share a needle with them then that in itself is bad. This analogy would make more sense if you said that it's bad to do drugs because of the potential from catching a disease after sharing a needle. Doing drugs is the cheating. Sharing a needle is the woman choosing to commit paternity fraud. And catching a disease is the man raising kids that aren't his own. Do you think it sounds right to say that cheating is only worse for women to do because of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:58 PM
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And a man cheating has the potential to lead to him killing his wife. Whether he does that or not has no bearing on the fact that him cheating is bad and it doesn't make the act of cheating better or worse. It's the act of murder itself that's bad. It's the act of paternity fraud itself that's bad. And it's the act of cheating itself that's bad, nothing that you do after cheating makes the act of cheating itself worse. Paternity fraud is a separate act that a woman who's cheated has decided to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:51 PM
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So then how is it worse for women in general to cheat if the end result most of the time is not paternity fraud? Do you not see how basing the awfulness of infidelity on one potential result doesn't make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:47 PM
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Paternity testing is a thing that exists. It's so easy for a man to find out if a kid is biologically his or not that it doesn't make any sense for someone to have this fear. If you're so scared that the kid could be someone else's just get a paternity test as soon as possible. There, problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:39 PM
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If cheating by itself is bad then without talking about something that "could" happen as a result afterwards, how is it worse for a woman to do than a man? And, since we're bringing up very specific circumstances, if a woman is infertile is it then less bad for her to cheat than a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:34 PM
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I think you seem to be completely off topic here. What you're arguing is that paternity fraud in particular (not cheating) has more potential for harm. It's such a specific circumstance that I don't see how it has any place in this conversation. Maybe someone should just make a post about why paternity fraud itself is bad since it seems like that's the only thing that your argument is hinged on. Without taking into account things that could happen as a result, do you think that cheating as an ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:25 PM
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You're missing my point here. We're not talking about which potential outcomes are worse, we're talking about why CHEATING ITSELF would be worse for either sex. The act of cheating is bad whether it's done by a man or a woman. The potential outcomes aren't worse for men because the worst potential outcome is he gets murdered by his wife as it is for women as well. Its not worse for a husband to be murdered than it is for a wife to be murdered. It's equal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:19 PM
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The potential outcome is bad as well as the act of cheating. Birth control is a thing, it's not like every woman who cheats ends up committing paternity fraud. A woman cheating isn't bad because of the potential outcome, it's bad because it's lying and being unfaithful to a person that you're supposed to be committed to. And it goes both ways for men and women. According to your argument it's equally bad for either to do since the worst potential outcome for either party is murder. But we should…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:14 PM
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Yeah but the point here is that there's no sense in even adding up the what if's. It's the act of cheating itself that is bad. It doesn't need to go beyond that. Sure the potential (although unlikely) event that a man could end up raising someone else's kid is shitty but so is a woman being forced to raise a mistress's child or a woman being murdered so her husband can start a life with someone else. Cheating shouldn't only be measured by what the cheater does after the fact because the act of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:04 PM
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So if the worst case for both parties is being murdered then why is it worse for women to cheat? It seems like it's equally bad for men OR women to cheat and also it's not a competition. Cheating is bad period whether a man or woman does it and there's no sense in trying to compare it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:56 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22552705/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:07 PM
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Lol not everyone is overeating. Just because might be too far My point exactly. "Forced paternal investment" has nothing to do with the subconscious and instincts. And a woman's past sexual history has nothing to do with whether or not she'll try to commit paternity fraud. Marrying a virgin doesn't insure that she'll never cheat on you or lie. What biological reason is there for men to be mostly attracted to virgins? And it just seems like matriarchal societies place more importance on the role …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:07 AM
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It's so much more nuanced than that though. You could use this argument to say that all men are rapists (obviously an extreme example and I don't believe that) because as humans men have the instinct to reproduce. And even in the specific overeating example, if humans were only driven by instincts then everyone would overeat. Choice, which comes from critical thinking, is a big factor in this argument. Our actions aren't primarily dictated by instincts. We don't do things or believe things just …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:43 AM
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'Critical thinking' doesn't imply an automatic positive outcome. The fact that people eat themselves into an early grave despite the fact that our bodies 'complain' about it is an argument for the fact that we don't run on instincts only and are capable of critical thinking. We have the ability to think past our natural instincts and use our knowledge of the way things are currently to form opinions and to make decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:38 AM
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Oh yeah true that's a good point. But I still don't think that we're just made up of primary instincts. I feel like humans have evolved to the point where we don't have simple primate brains anymore and our drives aren't primarily dictated by instincts from the subconscious. We're capable of critical thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:31 PM
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The subconscious knows about paternity tests and birth control in the same way the subconscious knows it's dangerous to jump off a skyscraper. We're not modern humans with primate brains, new inventions are a part of life that we literally grew up with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:26 PM
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I think being ruled by insecurities isn't good. Insecurity can be a big relationship killer. If a partner's exes being hot bothers someone that much they probably should be working on why they're so upset about other people being more physically attractive than them. But yeah a lot of people (women and men) think like that and it seems sad and super stressful. And about the sexual acts thing, the problem would be that my partner isn't satisfying me instead of about him having done it in the past…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 11:13 PM
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You think it goes away completely?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:13 PM
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It is hypocrisy because the conversation was about how men shit talk women that sleep around while they themselves are doing exactly that (hypocrisy) and you jumped in to defend that. I don't think anyone in this particular thread was "justifying it", just asking why it's okay for men to sleep around and not women if it's such an awful thing to do in your eyes. People have and will always sleep around because we all love to have sex. But I think the whole sex positivity movement has created the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:11 PM
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It doesn't matter to me whether they do or not, I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 01:29 AM
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Ohhh okay I get it now. That's literally all I was asking lmao thanks. I'll reply to the other comment. But like why did you send it to me instead of her? Actually I'm not going to reply to it, I still don't get it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 11:00 PM
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O i didn't see it as witty at all and I didn't understand your reply's relevance to the conversation so I was asking you to clarify. I was talking about men with low self esteem and you brought up attractive males who have women pay for them. I'm asking you how does that relate to the topic at hand? And it seems like you maybe didn't understand my witty comment so I'll clarify: I was implying that men who don't want to marry a woman who's had a "quick fuck" years ago is probably insecure and has…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:22 PM
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We're not talking about hiding things or being dishonest. Obviously thats a problem. It's just weird for someone that's already in a relationship where their standards are being met to want to know every detail of how his partner acted and everything they did with their exes just to compare that to their current relationship if hes already happy. It's like looking for something to be upset about. If his standards aren't being met then it would be weird af for him to get mad about the fact that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:07 PM
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I'm trying really hard to understand what your point is here but I still don't. What does being attractive or having women pay for your dates have to do with what I said? Did you send this to the wrong person?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:23 PM
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Not really. There are plenty of guys out there with high self esteem that don't get insecure af because their woman had sex in the past lol. More like a quick fuck is all it costs to never have a marriage with a man that constantly compares himself to others
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:53 PM
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How is it a consequence of "women's sluttiness" and not a consequence of not wrapping your damn dick up lol. It's on both people. The simple solution here is to just get a paternity test done. If I'm not mistaken you have to have one done if you have to pay child support. If you're actually with someone and you wanted to get her pregnant but you're worried the kid isn't yours you could just ask to get one done or refuse to be with the woman or take care of the kid until she agrees to one. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:32 PM
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Are you not doing the exact thing that you're claiming women do? Men say "women do this too" when it's literally less than 5% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:50 PM
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Do you believe the same for men? Not trying to pull the "well what about men" card here, just genuinely wondering
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:47 PM
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What does the 'n' in 'n count' stand for? I know that the phrase just means body count or whatever but I've never seen someone say what the n stands for lol. I don't think you can really guess if a person's slept around a lot or not. Back in the day when I was more open to talking about sex with strangers, people were always surprised when I told them. And I've met plenty of people that I guessed wrong about too. Just because someone's super confident and has good game doesn't mean they've slept…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:38 PM
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Neither is better. It's super shitty and selfish to lie to someone to get what you want. That's literally just manipulation. Anyone that does that should be avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:50 PM
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Why all the twisting of her words? You can't debate someone by using assumptions you make about them lol. you're shitting on men for something you haven't even experienced? Assumption. It's possible she experienced it in the past or maybe she's not 'ending up with' men at all for whatever reason. if you cannot find someone who showers regularly, that's on you Please explain how it's her fault that the men around her have shitty hygiene. Something smells fishy here... Literally this is exactly he…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:28 PM
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Could you send a link to your post? I'm not sure where to even start trying to find an answer aside from just asking people. It's cool if not though. I'll probably still make a post about it just to see different people's perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:26 PM
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It's not necessarily writing people off, but either way I agree it's pretty sad to see
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:24 PM
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I'm literally just asking because I haven't seen an answer before and I'd like to know. I don't care if people ask the reason behind women's preferences or not but I don't see anything wrong with asking. And the difference that it would make is that the question that I have would be answered and that's all I want. I never asked you for a "logical explanation that we all agree with", just your opinion but I'll just post it as a question instead since you clearly don't want to discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:13 PM
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You know what? I'm just now realizing I missed where you said in your original comment that you don't even care about past relationships. I've been trying to figure out why you feel the opposite this whole time lmao. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding! Thank you for having this conversation with me and I wish you luck in finding an amazing partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:45 PM
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What exactly is it about promiscuity in women that makes them less desirable in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:26 PM
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Okay thank you for clarifying! My main question here is just how is her relationship history relevant if you're being treated the way you want to be treated? If you're interested in a woman and you find out she's only been vanilla in her past but she wants to experiment with you you'd still date her? That means her history doesn't matter since she's only had vanilla sex and that's not what you want right? But if you're interested in a woman and find out she has experimented in the past and wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:23 PM
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Please bear with me here, I'm having a really hard time understanding your points. It would help if you gave less specific examples I think? Or just like clarify what exactly it is that you mean. Are you saying that you consider what she allows during sex as treatment? But you would be content with being with a woman that has only had vanilla sex? I can respond to this exact comment after you clarify
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:04 PM
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Are we talking about the same thing here? What a partner has done in the past? If you're interested in a woman and find out she only does piv, whether she has in the past or not, and you don't want to be with someone that only does piv then you shouldn't be with her. If you're talking to a woman that "checks every box" for you then would it still matter what she did in the past? Like let's say you want to be with a woman that is polyamorous and you meet a woman that's polyamorous but you find ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:47 PM
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What do you mean by "turned vanilla" and "being wild" though is what I'm trying to ask? It sounds like you're saying a woman that slept around in the past but doesn't sleep around anymore and that you want to be with a woman that still does the same thing, sleep around. If that's not what you mean could you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:23 PM
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Not going to get into the use of the word "slut" so I'll just say "woman who slept around". Is it not paranoia if the woman is clearly not sleeping around at the time you two are talking? And how is it not paranoia if you're comparing what she did with past partners to how she treats you now? It makes sense if she's dating a bunch of other men at the same time as you and treating them different but I don't understand how it's fair to compare what someone did with a past partner to what they do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:21 PM
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You want to date women that sleep around a lot? Or do you mean women that have slept around a lot? If that's just what you prefer I don't see why anyone gives you pushback for it. I don't think I understand what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:11 PM
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I'm only responding to your comment of physical aggression during sex. That is scary and you asked why so I explained it to you. Whether women do it too or not is irrelevant to whether it's frightening for men to do it or not. But if you want to talk about that we can. Sure, I personally would be afraid of a woman being physically aggressive with me because physical aggression can be dangerous. It's not up to me to tell you what you should or shouldn't be scared of, you have to answer that quest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:06 PM
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It's not a flaw in the philosophy if it's an extreme case. There are always going to be extreme cases, that just makes it an exception
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:58 PM
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Because people can and do change? Do you not understand that people are supposed to learn from past situations and grow from them? For me personally I wouldn't want to be with someone stoic anyway since I feel loved when my partner is supportive kind and an emotional rockstar. Whether a man was stoic with his exes or not is irrelevant because I don't want to be with someone stoic in the first place. I think the more important thing here is what I want or need from a partner. I can be happy with …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:46 PM
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The fact that you want to be aggressive towards a woman that you don't like. It's scary because aggression can be dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:25 PM
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You say that being skeptical and observing actions produces better results but that's not what you're doing here. You're straight up just calling women liars with no basis instead of observing their actions. You can be skeptical of someone without coming in and dismissing everything they say and then giving your own assumptions as fact. It's actually not an analogy at all, it's an example of an assumption being made about you that you most likely wouldn't like. My point was just that it would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 07:05 PM
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I'm really sorry but I don't have the time or attention span to watch a 15 or 30 minute video by a random on YouTube. Could you outline some of the points from the videos that are relevant to my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:52 PM
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Yeah I think it's morally wrong to indirectly contribute to that kind of abuse (sweatshops and forced mining) but clothes and phones are pretty much necessity in the culture we live in (in America) so I don't think it's as bad as diamonds or sex which aren't things that people actually need to get by in life. Especially not when there are other options in the diamond and sex scenarios. And no I don't dislike men having that option, I dislike the idea of getting something a person wants, not need…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 06:46 PM
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Did you not read anything I said? You know full well as much as I do the realities of the sex trade industry and a lot of times, especially in less developed countries the woman is forced into that situation. And I don't know about you but to me it's morally wrong as well as creepy, sad, and pathetic to exploit someone's abuse like that just to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:38 PM
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Well said on the first part. In your last paragraph though, the difference is that a woman going to Italy is usually having sex with a consenting partner that actually wants to have sex with her. Whereas a man going to brothels is purchasing sex from someone who most likely otherwise wouldn't want to have sex with him. And also there's the issue of sex trafficking and the fact that most women are forced into working at a brothel. That's why it's creepy sad and pathetic and it would also be for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 12:06 PM
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Or you can stop implying that women are liars and just listen to what we're saying? I'm sure some women are jealous but obviously not the women in this thread who are literally telling you that it's not jealousy for them. Women don't all share one brain, we don't all think exactly the same things so it doesn't make sense for anyone to just say we're all jealous. In fact it's pretty offensive when a woman states her opinion on the matter and is told that she's lying for some reason and just jealo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:34 AM
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But that's the thing, alone isn't only defined as being single. A person can be single and have healthy relationships with family and/or friends. They're not alone. Society isn't going to collapse just because people aren't in romantic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:19 AM
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My family is. They say stuff like "she never married" as if it's a sad thing. But I will say they don't belittle anyone to their face
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:11 AM
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I think it's kind of the same thing and you two just disagree on which one works better. Both online dating and dating by spending time in populated places are volume and they kind of work the same way. Dating apps seem like they might be a little easier because everyone on there has more or less the same intention, to date or hook up or make friends. It seems like it's just a matter of preference if you'd rather meet people in a social atmosphere or on an app. For me it's better meeting people …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:32 AM
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This isn't true for straight people, dating apps aren't the main framework where men and women meet and nowhere near the only framework. Only about 2% of the population in America use tinder and even less for other apps. Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/826778/most-popular-dating-apps-by-audience-size-usa/ It could be true for gay and bi people with grindr though since according to this source: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/how-many-people-lgbt/ only 3.5% of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:17 AM
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So you're saying compromising by dating someone with questionable morals or character (except for the bi men, how is that a compromise?) is equal to compromising by waiting to have sex? How are the two equal at all? I get what you're saying though and I think the thing is that men can and do also put up boundaries. Like the example of the man only paying for half a meal and believe it or not some women do compromise on that. And their partner should do the same for them. Barring special circumst…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:58 AM
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Exactly. Op is bold as hell to put this out here like that lmaooo. Easily some of the worst advice I've seen on this sub with the main reason for it being bad is that it's advice from some random man on the internet about what women want or are attracted to. No women don't "like" abusive men op even if they do end up with them often. I find myself without money often but that doesn't mean I like being poor!! Women are human beings that live in an advanced society, everything we do and and who we…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 06:15 PM
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Tumblr and buzzfeed are still a thing as well as vine and collegehumour. Even if they've changed into something else like vine videos on YouTube, tumblr still running, collegehumour on YouTube (I just saw a video by them a couple days ago surprisingly) and buzzfeed and it's 2.5 million sister sites. Sure the apps themselves may have fizzled out (with the exception of tumblr) but the fact that they're still relevant in some capacity should tell you that tiktok will most likely also be immortalize…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 04:16 PM
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Wow we really got to the root of it huh! So it's just selfishness all along. Thanks for the chat and I wish you luck in your current and/or future relationship endeavors!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:59 PM
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In that situation, unless she's dating others at the same time as you (emphasis on at the same time as you, as opposed to in the past) then it wouldn't be dishonest to say "I'm not like that, I don't do that". Because even if she was like that, she's clearly not now. It's not saying "I've never done that and I never will" it's just saying that's not how she is at the moment. Whether she's done it in the past or not is irrelevant. I could say "I don't smoke, I'm not like that" and still be honest…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:54 PM
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Definitely this. I feel like people on this sub put too much emphasis on what people did in their past relationships as if they're supposed to just keep doing the same things in every single relationship. Obviously if you did something in the past and found out it kept resulting in you being mistreated it would be pretty stupid to continue to do it in future relationships. Has nothing to do with the new person, it's just changing your patterns for a better outcome. I'm glad to see someone else u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 03:39 PM
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It's not a violation of trust unless she's dating those different men at the same time as you. As I said in my other comment, people should learn from past relationships and adjust. If a man took all his previous relationship prospects to Paris and found that they left him as soon as his money dried up and he decides to not spend that kind of money on prospects anymore that's a sign of growth to me. (I don't think anyone should spend that kind of money on something not guaranteed anyways since i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 02:13 PM
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For me personally if i make a guy wait for sex it's only within the dating and getting to know him stage so if he took previous romantic interests to Paris as dates and then said that he felt used I'd take him at his word and pay half the check. When I really like a guy I honestly just want him to be happy, I'd take the whole check if I'm that into him and he lets me. I also think trust is pretty important in a relationship and if he says that he wants to split it because of past situations not …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:27 PM
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You said The whole idea of perfection has been so romanticized that many women believe it is possible. This is why most divorces are initiated by women And then posted the article and said you're just referencing it for the numbers. If it's a legit source you don't get to pick which part of it you're referencing lmao especially not after making a bold claim that the article clearly proves to not be true. You said if most women have the same mentality as yours (me over everyone else type of menta…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 08:04 AM
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Dang I started to reply but it got deleted when I clicked the article so I think I'll just summarize. You are definitely not being very honest here. I hope you realize that we can both see our previous comments. You came in doing exactly what you're accusing me of doing, completely blew it out of proportion. My last reply is specifically in response to what you said, which I literally quoted. Anyone expecting a relationship or person to be perfect is naïve and that's that. I agree with you on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:32 AM
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Oh wow this is an old one haha hello! Is that really what you got from reading my comment? How did you read this: If she can't find a guy that meets that criteria then that's on her and her only. and get this: "there is always something better out there!" Newsflash dude, I literally said if a person is super picky and ends up single because of that's their business. It literally doesn't affect anybody but that person so why is this topic even a conversation? If you don't want to be picky and wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:21 PM
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Ah okay well good luck in your endeavors!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 12:48 AM
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Ah i see now what you mean by >i don't think having low intelligence and/or low impulse control is an example of being unhealthy I think that it is an example of being unhealthy. Low impulse control is not healthy mentally. Not everyone has time or tools to bulk cook meals. Poverty can be a reason for this. Definitely agree nobody needs to eat unhealthy junk food but some people only have the means to eat unhealthy junk food. Thank you for clarifying! Like I said a person can absolutely thrive i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:09 AM
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I would argue that having an addiction to anything is very unhealthy on top of the fact that alcohol and cigarettes are very unhealthy substances to put into your body at all. So yes even the people that aren't addicted to said substances but still use them in excess are unhealthy. Your healthy food argument makes sense except for the fact that you're not taking into account the multiple multiple people in poverty that work more than one job/have kids, are homeless, etc. How do you expect someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 01:53 AM
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Not risk what? Trying to be in a relationship with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:45 PM
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Well I mean choosing to smoke/drink in excess over trying to save or spend that money on something more useful should tell you that those people obviously aren't healthy lol so there's one example. Overeating is different because poor people aren't eating the healthiest food (too expensive) and instead end up binging on shitty stuff like idk pizza or McDonald's or something else equally cheap and unhealthy. Which can lead to said health risks. Perhaps being in poverty actually facilitates those …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:43 PM
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Personally I'd just proceed with caution. Observe the dog's behavior. If it's barking and snarling at me obviously I'd get the hell away from it but if it comes up to me wagging its tail then I'd pet it lol. Unfortunately though humans are a lot more complicated than dogs. That's why people have a vetting process. If I decide to not have sex with a guy for the first few dates and he constantly asks me about it or pressures me I'll get the hell away from him. I'm not going to stop romantically in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:10 AM
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Dang that really is wild. You should ask him if he thinks that men being forced to pay for everything for his wife is just a price to pay for happiness. And if a wife that feels that way would be a good mother to his son. Honestly that isn't even comparable though. Rape is literally abuse like obviously it's not a price to pay for happiness when abuse doesn't cause happiness for the person like? What do you think makes a person think that way? Is it lack of empathy? Seems almost sinister tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:54 AM
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You're mistaken, I didn't mention that to talk about the reasons why people in my past have decided to manipulate me lol. My point was that despite the fact that most of the men I've interacted with romantically have behaved that way, it doesn't mean that all men are like that. The same way that just because a lot of women you've interacted with behave that way it doesn't mean that all women are like that. If I go to an animal shelter and 9 of the 10 dogs there bite me it doesn't mean that every…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:43 AM
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This conversation is so sad and funny at the same time. This guy is literally saying that not having sex is as bad as being in poverty (not the starvation and death kind, to clarify). As if being in poverty doesn't cause both mental and physical health issues. Apparently not having sex leads to mental and physical health issues and not even therapy or non sexual human connection can help, completely unavoidable just because you're not having sex! He must have never had to deal with poverty befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:15 AM
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I definitely feel like being single in my 30s would be a lot better than settling for someone that I don't even like all that much in my 20s just to not be single. I've seen enough of that to know that it's really not a good idea. What's so bad about being picky when it comes to a person's own relationship? I think it's more heartbreaking that women in their 30s (super young) are that sad about being single instead of just working on themselves and living their life to the fullest as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:54 AM
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The men on dates with those women probably think the same thing lol. All I'm saying is that just because the women you've encountered do that doesn't mean all women do. Most of the men I've had the displeasure of being in a relationship with were just using me for sex but that doesn't mean that all men just use women for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:25 AM
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So you believe all women do that just because some women have? And also are you 100% sure they didn't or won't sleep with the man they went on a date with just because they're sleeping with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:04 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:14 AM
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Humans are pretty unique lol. I'm just saying what I would say in a conversation about men would depend on what about men we're talking about. If it's just about men in general I'd probably just talk about my experiences with men that I've met/known. Whether it would sound flattering or not depends completely on my interaction with a specific man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:08 AM
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Depends on what about men we're talking about. Just like men in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:45 AM
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Ah i see what you're saying. Maybe for some people. Don't you think it's a bit of a stretch to call 50% of the population delusional though? It's also pretty insulting tbh. Unless you're talking about like a specific person or people you've had the misfortune of coming into contact with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:38 AM
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Well I can't speak for all women but for me personally and for a lot of women that I've known over the years, we've had a lot of experiences with men acting a certain way which leads to women then acting in a certain (mostly defensive) way or having certain assumptions. Not sure what "wrong things" you're referring to though. Do you mean about how much housework gets done or other things? Would you care to elaborate? I'm down for a little convo if you are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:14 PM
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How would you know that if you're not a woman? I think this is a wild assumption lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:27 AM
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This study is about statistics and averages, not about you personally
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:25 AM
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The study is up! I only read the first page since I don't have a lot of time rn but it looks like it did just go by what the participants said they were doing. I feel like that makes the study flawed but I'm still not going to jump to the assumption that anyone lied. I'll probably read more into it later
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:22 AM
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Ah okay thanks for the clarification! Sorry if this came across as prying at all I was honestly just wondering
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:00 PM
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Yeah I did. I'm saying that we don't actually know that without knowing whether they were just going off what the people said they were doing or if they actually monitored what the people were doing. They wouldn't have been able to say that men overestimated their share by just going off of what they said. You see what I'm saying? I asked op to post the link because I really want to know how they went about the study
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:03 PM
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Can you find the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:58 PM
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If my assumption is correct about the people running the study actually monitoring the people then what you said would be incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:57 PM
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You don't mind doing all the home labor even when you're working a part time job? If you're contributing like 25% in money and your partner 75% isn't it unfair for you to do 100% home labor and your partner none? Or do you just like not mind? I feel like that means you contribute more to the overall partnership labor
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:45 PM
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Oh I see what you're saying now. Yeah that makes sense. I didn't immediately jump to the conclusion that they lied though. I think I just assumed the people running the study monitored their actual activity as well instead of just going by what they said they were doing because that would be a faulty study. I want to see the link
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:37 PM
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No it literally just says that they know how much they contribute whereas men think they contribute more than they do. Not even about how much they do just how much they do in contrast to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:31 PM
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Show your sources then since you're so sure. The point here is that you can still raise your children even if you're divorced. Not doing so is usually just a personal choice. It's not like getting divorced automatically means your kids are taken away lmao and it's silly af that that's what you're implying. Also the happiness of parents is just as important as anyone else's. Maybe even especially for parents. Like I said your parents must've been the most in love mfers on the planet or else you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:17 PM
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You must not have grown up with parents that are incompatible with each other. I went through my parents' divorce and also went through having to hear my dad and stepmom fight almost every night for yearssss until I turned 18 and moved out. You can still help out in your child's life while being separated from their other parent, you know. It's crazy the kind of damage people can suffer just from seeing their unhappy parents fight every night. It's not just a matter of 'getting over petty bullsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 08:34 AM
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You can fake it on video. There are apps for that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:29 AM
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Yeah but who cares if people assume you're gay? That doesn't put you at any disadvantage. I don't think that's at all comparable to the absolute shame and slander that some women go through for being single and over 30
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:42 PM
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Because women do a lot of shit behind the scenes sometimes like having sex with someone you're not super sexually attracted to just because you know you'll get something out of the deal. I swear reading some of these comments on here it seems like some guys just don't understand women at all. In the situation of a woman sleeping with an un attractive but rich man alot of the time women will make the compromise of sleeping with someone theyre not super attracted to. But like op said nobody is sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 09:10 PM
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What are you even talking about. Who is "you people"?? I'm just responding to the other person. It's a fact that you can no longer get an abortion after a very short amount of time which is why I pointed it out. If someone were to say "you cant smoke weed legally" and I were to say "you can in California!" would you hop in and say "you people are always bringing up California!"?? I never said anything about how dangerous it is or anything. Calm down lol. You people are always getting mad at even…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:21 AM
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What lol the only other time I've talked about what's happening in Texas was with my roommate and it was in person. I haven't brought up Texas on here at all until that comment, you must have me mistaken for someone else. Also it's still true
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:12 AM
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Not in Texas! And also it's not that easy to just have an abortion. There's a degree of trauma that comes with it and a hefty price, a lot of people can't even afford it. Also men still leave after the baby is born. I'm sure some women do but not as many as men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 12:18 AM
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Not always. No alimony if they never married. And also child support is a hell of a lot cheaper and less work than actually raising a child. Not to mention that a man walking away from his family 8 times out of 10 doesn't care about losing access to the kids. And still like I said whoever can walk away (the man) has the most power
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:37 PM
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According to the quote "whoever can walk away has the most power" in the case that the woman gets pregnant, the man has the most power since men can and do walk away from that situation and usually the woman cannot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 04:33 PM
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I think the difference is that the vast majority of women don't desperately want sex with really hot men. That's more men's style which is why there are way more women prostitutes. I think also a lot of women would very much rather want to just not have sex at all than to hire a prostitute and it's not necessary for a woman that really wants sex since we generally have a lot of options
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:07 PM
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You're incorrect about only women faking orgasms. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19707929/ And idk why you've said that so many times when you clearly don't understand the reasons why women do that. Also just because a woman faked an orgasm doesn't mean she didn't communicate at all during sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 03:26 PM
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A lot of straight people weren't taught how to have sex either. I'd even argue that most people in general weren't taught how to have sex. For me personally I was raised a Christian and was taught abstinence from my parents and from school sex Ed classes and all of that. And even when they talked about sexual reproductive anatomy we learned (minimally) about the male anatomy and barely at all about the female. They literally had stickers over the vagina diagrams in the books. There are reasons l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 02:39 PM
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Maybe some women just don't realize they're doing that? There was one time I was in the middle of it with my guy and he straight up said "this would be easier if you weren't just laying there" lmaoooo and I didn't even realize I was doing that. But it was because I was definitely a bit drunk and it was super late so I was tired af. Maybe it would help a little if guys called it out when a women does that? Idk though maybe just don't fuck them ever again. I do know that some ladies are just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:41 PM
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Dang this is rude af lmao. You're generalizing and saying men are better at sex based on the assumption that most or all women don't communicate what they want in bed. Personally, I've told lots of guys what does/nt feel good while having sex and a surprising amount just don't care and continued to do whatever it was they wanted to do just to get themselves off. Communication is definitely key in sex and I live by that but clearly a lot of men don't. Which is why women always say that men don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 10:26 PM
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So what I asked you? I just said the only thing I disagree with you on is thinking that people are idiots for believing in something that they don't even know is disproven. Idk why you linked that here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:19 AM
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But if only 20% of the male population are 'attractive guys' as you guys put it, then women aren't sleeping around that much? And also again how many people you sleep with doesn't correlate with how picky a person is or isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:44 AM
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Why are you being so rude lmao what does it matter to you whether I believe in it or not? And also i didn't even say if I believe in it or not after you said that it's disproven, I'm saying I don't think people that believe in it are idiots for not knowing it's disproven. That's where I disagree. Idk why you're so pissed about it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:42 AM
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Oh dang I got that one wrong lmaooooo! But the point still stands, people on here do always claim women sleep around a lot and I wouldn't say they're completely wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:15 AM
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I'll agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 02:13 AM
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Has it been? Or has it just not been proven? Why would that make me an idiot though instead of just uneducated? Is a kid who sticks a fork in the toaster because he doesn't know what'll happen an idiot or does he just not know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:37 AM
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I do actually believe it to an extent though lol. But I don't care if you think I'm an idiot or not, I'm just trying to understand why not what. Is it because you don't believe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:30 AM
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Is hypergamy not a thing then? Isn't that what everyone here keeps saying, that women are super hypergamous nowadays? According to other people here, yes women are trying to fuck everything that moves. I don't believe that's true because women are socialized to have restraint when it comes to sex and also a lot of women have learned that having sex with every single person that you want to have sex with leads to a lot of bad experiences. On the flip side lots of people have sex with people they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:26 AM
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Why do you think people that believe in astrology are idiots though? I slightly believe it but nothing in my life revolves around it, it's more of just a fun idea about why people are the way they are. If anything it can be summed up to a thought exercise lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:08 AM
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What would your solution to this issue be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:04 AM
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I just looked up the definition of a cult and it actually fits in one of the definitions given by merriam webster haha. But by the same definition you could say trp is a cult and a lot of other stuff too lol. What is it about someone being into something like astrology that you don't like? Is it just the difference in views?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:33 PM
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Lol astrology is a cult?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:21 PM
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Sorry for the super late response to this! I didn't know how to respond when I first read it because you reply is super long and also I just didn't really have the energy to respond at that point but I do now! First of all I'm sorry that you've been screwed over so many times! That kind of stuff definitely hurts and even scars sometimes and even though I don't know you I'm sure you don't deserve to be treated like that. I can relate to your experience about how you were talking to someone that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:15 PM
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Exactly. I think they might just be trolling or something since they commented that on like every thread. But I get what you're saying op!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:45 AM
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Minimizing what differences? And yeah the whole point of online dating is to be wowed. If you're actually looking for someone that's relationship material and not just someone to fuck (I shouldve clarified that this is what I mean) then it would make sense to only swipe on the people that wow you since there are so many options and you're trying to narrow it down to the best of the best. But what I'm saying is that just pictures of an average looking guy's face would be 'merely acceptable' while…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:34 AM
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I think 'average guys' usually have more going for them then just their looks so I wouldn't say they should all quit online dating. But if you mean just average looking guys that don't have anything going for them then yeah I agree with you. And in person dating just seems like a more authentic experience for everyone! Since it's way less superficial but hey it works for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:56 AM
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Okay but this particular thread is specifically about online dating profiles lol. And it's mainly about how pictures of just people's faces are boring. Nothing about sexual stimuli since most online dating profiles are not explicitly sexual photos. And nobody said anything about whether or not women finding looks more or less important than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:52 AM
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No the op is about 'visual stimuli', not just 'visual sexual stimuli' which is why this link isn't really relevant in this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:07 AM
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That's the answer to the question then. That there has to be minimum level of attractiveness and some sense you'd want to hang out with her. That's what compels men and women to swipe right. If a guy isn't super attractive his chances of getting matches are higher if he at least has an interesting profile that someone would look at and think he would be a cool person to hang out with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:03 AM
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Well yeah misleading people is always bad. The point here is just that people that aren't super good looking have ways to make their profile more arousing (not just sexual). Less attractive guys should absolutely present themselves as they are but if they have nothing to showcase other than their face then they probably should just stay away from online dating because it's just kind of setting themselves up for failure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:57 AM
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Isn't the whole point of old to show off your best traits though? If you're competing with 100s of other men on a service that only shows a superficial version of yourself then the best bet would be to show off a little. Not saying anyone has to bulk up or anything but pictures showing personality are definitely better than not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:39 PM
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In this case wouldn't her looks have been what compelled you to swipe right? I think the point of op is that even if a guy isn't in the top 20% looks wise, his old chances are greater if he has more interesting pictures or an interesting profile than just pictures of his face. And "arousing" doesn't just refer to sexually arousing, just means like interesting to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:33 PM
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This is about responses to sexual stimuli, not regular non sexual static images like a photo of just someone's face
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:01 PM
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Ohhh I see okay. That makes a lot more sense! I was scratching my head thinking about the idea of vetting someone you're just hooking up with semi strictly for their career choice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:18 PM
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I usually think of fwbs as more of a casual sex thing. It just seems like a lot to do all of that vetting for someone that you're not or have no plans to be in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:13 PM
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Yeah I agree, I was just answering your question
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:44 PM
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You'd do all that for someone you're only casually sleeping with?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:41 PM
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Because some men do expect to get with women way out of their league and then get mad when they're rejected lol. Is that the 'stupid shit' you're referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:23 PM
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Yeah I agree but being attractive and making effort will still get you farther than not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:20 PM
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I feel like it would be pretty fair to exclude the first three points as red flags since they say less about the women's behavior and more about the men around them. It doesn't make sense to think of a woman having orbiters, for example, as a red flag since orbiters are literally someone pretending to be your friend to further their own personal gain. It's impossible for the woman in that situation to know a friend of theirs has a secret motive. Same thing with the social media likes, you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:19 PM
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Attractive doesn't always mean just looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:08 PM
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Women already know that men are willing to fuck anything their dick can fit into, we don't need to make a fake profile to find that out when it's already common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:06 PM
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Then that's wrong. It's also wrong to pass up qualified women just based on the fact that they're women which is why quotas like that exist in the first place, to level the playing field. And once again, men in that situation are still not being forced to do something with their bodies that they don't want to do. They're just missing out on that specific oppurtunity (which does suck). If we really want equality then there would be mandates saying that each job has say 20 women and 20 men but tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 10:42 PM
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Gaslighting is a form of manipulation. I have literally zero reason to manipulate you, I don't even know you. The whole point of this sub is to have a discussion which is what I was trying to do. But if you'd prefer to victimize yourself and try to tell me what I'm trying to do then we can just leave it at that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:47 PM
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I'm not trying to make any assumptions here I'm literally just wondering if it's been considered and if it's been tried and if the results were the same
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:17 PM
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Have you guys ever considered the fact that maybe you're not getting laid BECAUSE of the fact that you think like this? If I were to just give up and say "well I'm not a white woman with a banging body so I guess I'll never get laid" and just give up then odds are I'd never get laid. Why not work on the things that you CAN work on instead of focusing on the things you can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:46 PM
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Having sex is not a power
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:28 PM
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Because men aren't being forced to give anything when it comes to having quotas for women. Having quotas is literally just opening up opportunity for women, and not forcing men to do something with their body that they don't want to do. Forcing women to have "charitable sex" is literally forcing women to be raped which is fucked up beyond measure. A better comparison would be to say that if women shouldn't be allowed the option of saying no then men should also be forced to have sex with low val…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:23 PM
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Well I mean just because I do it doesn't mean every single woman does lol but np!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:28 AM
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Thats your assumption? There's always going to be better sex out there, that doesn't mean that someone will cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:31 AM
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I think some other people in this thread explained it better and I can just agree to disagree at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:00 AM
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I'm not expecting any specific answer, just an answer. Which is what you gave me lol so thanks. No need to be aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:56 AM
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Idk what causes people to cheat but the lying is just to cover their own ass. Maybe it's because their desire to please themself is more important in the moment to them than their commitment to their partner? Idk but that would be my guess
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:41 AM
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A liar? Or just a manipulative person in general. Or maybe even someone afraid of the consequences? Like i could see a married woman covering it up so it doesn't hurt her husband/ruin their marriage or something but that doesn't justify it and that means they're a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:45 PM
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I think theres a huge lack of understanding about each other but this helps me understand a bit! Thank you for having this conversation with me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:06 PM
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Okay you're only telling me that you don't like promiscuity but not why beyond saying it's against your morals. What about it is morally bad to you? And if it's morally bad for women to do it why isn't it bad for men to do too? Do your morals exclude men? Not trying to attack you or say "but what about men", just trying to understand better
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:55 PM
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Thanks for the explaination! That makes a lot of sense. I do think that it's weird that we're able to ignore some aversions and grow but not others like a fear of women who like to have causal sex but that definitely explains it. Hopefully as humanity grows and continues to evolve we can move past these outdated ways of thinking to better fit our present behaviors!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:51 PM
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I'll look into it but in the meantime if you know of any studies send them my way! It sucks that that's the way men think then because there's definitely more to a relationship than just sex and I'd even argue that a lot of women actually ignore their instincts about sex being a bonding experience in order to sleep around. Also if men are afraid that a woman that sleeps around would see it as just an activity what you say about men who sleep around a lot or have in the past but now want a commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:45 PM
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No need for the aggression I'm literally just having a conversation to try and understand other people's point of view so you can stop with that and talk to me like anyone else, sweetie. I didn't bring up evolutionary psychology, I was responding to someone else's comment that said something along the lines of nature doesn't like cucking and I asked why. Again if anything nature just wants people to pass on their genes, like a lot of other people in this thread and even yourself have said. But a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:39 PM
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Not for women who've slept around in the past and want to be in a committed relationship though. A lot of people on here seem to be going on the assumption that every woman who has had casual sex is going to cheat every time. Maybe the rest of the world needs to catch up to the idea that women like sex just as much as men do and sleeping around is fun but that doesn't mean that they're just going to do it every time in every situation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:10 PM
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Yeah but there are women who get into a relationship when they're a virgin and then go on to cheat. Cheating isn't exclusive to people who've slept around before so why would there be a bigger risk factor for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:07 PM
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The og question isnt "why don't men like cheaters" it's "why don't men like onlyfans/promiscuous women" and your comment doesn't answer that. How many people you've had sex with in the past has nothing to do with commitment or being faithful at all so that doesn't explain it. This is redpill101 so I'm not sure why you said all that but still haven't answered the question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 10:03 PM
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Okay thank you! I was just trying to get to the root of it and it seems like you've answered my question. If you want to keep chatting though can I ask why men think a promiscuous woman is more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:50 PM
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True and that makes sense why you would want to make sure the baby is actually yours before putting in resources. Its the same for women dating a new man and doing some kind of vetting to make sure he's not going to break your trust or use you. But why would a woman sleeping around in the past mean that you can't trust her? I should specify that I'm talking about women who have had casual sex in the past and not women who've slept around while in a committed relationship. Also I should say I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:46 PM
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Yes but the question I'm asking is "why"? What about a woman that's had sex with someone else in the past makes men afraid? Why would they biologically be hardwired to not take her seriously? Especially if she's willing to commit to you from that point on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:42 PM
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It's not which is why I'm asking lol. Could you explain it to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:40 PM
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Thanks for your input! That's shitty to get led on like that. Why do you think that guys would despise promiscuity in this case though instead of just despising the deception of a specific person? How does it translate over to "every woman that sleeps around is bad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:39 PM
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Ah thank you for clarifying! Why would some men not want to be with a woman who's had sex with someone else in the past if she's faithfully in a relationship with one person at the moment? Do guys think that means that she's more likely to cheat on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:34 PM
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I feel like I'm talking in circles. So do you think the root of this is that men think that promiscuity in the past always means that there's a chance that a baby isn't biologically theirs? That's why instincts would say that you shouldn't be with a woman who's had a lot of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:30 PM
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This has nothing to do with me wanting to date a promisuous woman lmao I never even said who I am or what I want at all, I'm just asking questions to try to better understand your point of view. If you don't want to continue the conversation that's fine and thank you for the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:22 PM
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I understand that but it has nothing to do with the fact that men are driving onlyfans, yet they're disgusted with the women that are only doing what they want. You're not in a relationship with the girl you're paying on there, so why would you be territorial of her or disgusted by her when she's doing the very thing that you know she's doing and are even paying her to do? That's the question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:16 PM
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Look I'm not going to continue this conversation if you're going to call me names just for trying to understand your point of view. That's extremely immature of you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:15 PM
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We have paternity testing now but we also have contraception? And a woman being promiscuous doesn't automatically correlate to paternity fraud, it just means she has had sex in the past. So why would instincts in the world we live in today drive to a disgust of a promiscuous woman if that doesn't automatically mean that the child might not be yours? (And also not all promiscuous women are cheaters which is a whole other conversation but seems to be the root here)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:11 PM
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Then why not sleep with as many women as possible instead of worrying about whether the one child that your wife is pregnant with is biologically yours or if she's sleeping with more than just you? And also what of the fact that we have contraception now? Not every woman that sleeps around is being impregnated by multiple men or lying about it? This doesn't make sense if we're going to say that instincts drive men to passing on their genes as much as possible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:03 PM
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I think that pretty much sums it up but could I get some male opinions on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:01 PM
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How do you know we're not descended from some(!) men that unknowingly raised someone else's biological child? But yeah I get what you're saying! I'm only debating on your use of the word nature but it makes sense if you're talking about the nature of a specific person/people. Semantics I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:00 PM
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Then why do those same men support and pay the women to do exactly the thing that disgusts them? OnlyFans is pretty much for and by men. Not saying that men are the ones posing but men are the ones posing the women. Without the male base paying women to share their bodies with different men all over the internet there would be no onlyfans or anything like it. You guys are literally the ones driving the market for the very thing that you claim to be disgusted by so why do men despise the women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:55 PM
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Sorry I was editing my other comment when you replied! But that would still mean that they do it because of power dynamics, not because of a disgust for females that sleep around or paternity fraud. But with that being said I still don't think that you can really compare the behaviors of lions to that of humans since they're driven on instinct only and we are not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:49 PM
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I think lions killing cubs of other prides has more to do with power dynamics than it does promiscuity or paternity fraud. It doesn't seem like that kind of stuff is really relevant to lions since they're animals and are driven by instinct alone. Which also means you can't really compare the behaviors of lions to actual humans
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:39 PM
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I thought cucking was when someone enjoys their partner sleeping with other people? Are we talking about just victims of cheating? If you are I think that's a good point! I still don't see that as nature though, just the result of rituals that we have in our own society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:37 PM
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Yeah this or we can just take it a step further and say that it has nothing to do with nature in the first place, and it's only the individual's preference. I doubt nature actually cares about "paternity fraud" but I do think that most men do care about it (rightfully so) and prefer to take steps to prevent it. If you were to take someone that doesn't live the way we do and doesn't have any type of knowledge of the technology/rituals (for lack of a better word) that we have to trace paternity an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:34 PM
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Honestly I think it's because they're angry that a woman would only be willing to share her body with them for some kind of profit. And also the fact that she's willing to share only a part of it. It seems like a lot of men (on here at least) feel entitled to sex and feel like a woman withholding it is taking something that they deserve, especially if she sends them nudes but isn't willing to let them actually touch her. For some reason they seem to think that if she's willing to show them her b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:27 PM
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In what ways do you think it makes a woman narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:18 PM
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Why would nature care about "cucking"? When it comes to sex it seems like nature just wants people to reproduce. How does it affect reproduction at all for someone to sleep with more than one person? It honestly seems like nature would want that over the alternative since you're probably more likely to reproduce that way since you're most likely having more sex if you sleep with more than one person. Kind of seems like a lot of guys on here say it's what nature wants when in reality it's just th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 08:12 PM
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You can't base general women's attraction on just porn statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:35 AM
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Ah lol makes more sense. It sucks that so many people feel like they have to settle! It's so bad in the long run for both parties
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:32 AM
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Yeah I definitely think it leads to that!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:22 AM
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Ah okay. I feel like I don't think that's the case but I don't know about any statistics on the matter and in my experience it seems like the opposite but I could be looking at it from a biased point of view. Anyways thanks for the chat!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:08 AM
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I think that in this situation there is equality when it comes to freedom of choice in a partner. Men also can have boundaries and things that they want in a partner and women also have the option of not being with them/being rejected by them for not meeting the standards. I dont think there should be societal pressure on anyone to do specific things like always pay in a relationship and people should still be free to choose however they please. I think it would be the most equal for both partie…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:03 AM
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I agree with you and I also think that universities should be the gate keepers of knowledge at way less or no cost. Or at least there should be an option like that. I always say it would be amazing to be able to go to a college just to learn without having to worry about the current financial burden that comes from that. It doesn't even have to be for a degree either (not that there shouldn't be any degrees at all, there definitely should for some things but it would be nice to have an option li…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:59 AM
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I agree with everything you said except for the college bit but I don't want to get into that. About this: ...we must now make more than the woman and care for her, yet half the workforce is now women, making that job way harder. Do you think that even though women are making more money and becoming more independent, they still expect men to make more than and care for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:52 AM
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Thanks! I'm going to just reply to your other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:48 AM
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Could the solution to that be for men to just stop dating women who are like that? I think that if men were a little more selective they wouldn't have to worry about that in the first place. I don't have a solid opinion on that specific behavior but I think that if it doesn't work out for both parties than it's on to the next
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:41 AM
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What do you mean by dating equality? Like what would be your definition of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:35 AM
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As for what I meant by post conception opt outs, I'm referring to abortion. Basically, a woman is not automatically responsible for children she conceives, she has to accept responsibility after the fact. She can 'opt out' of parenthood either by killing the child in the womb or by giving it up for adoption, society never tries to force parental responsibility onto women without them first accepting it. Here I'm talking about Western countries. Women and men both benefit from abortion though. A …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:32 AM
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It sounds like you're talking about people starting a friendship with the expectation of it turning into a relationship but it seems more like the study is about people who are just friends without any expectation of that ending up in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:57 AM
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That's definitely shitty behavior. Can I ask though do you think the solution to this would just be to not date someone that doesn't care about your emotions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:31 AM
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It's shitty that that's been your experience and I hope that you're able to find better! But still I don't think that you should generalize most women because of it. This is no different than women saying that all men are bad because most of the guys they've been in a relationship with were trash. With all that being said though it's shitty for someone to be unresponsive to their partner's emotions, especially if their partner is very responsive to theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:28 AM
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Okay and my biggest issue is that men like yourself continue to push and talk down on women for doing something as simple as making a man wait "for 30 days". Instead of having a regular conversation about this and listening to what I'm saying is the reason behind this, you guys both decided to try and insult me by saying things like "wow you sure don't treat your man well" and "if you paid attention in biology class" (which implies that I'm uneducated). Not once have I tried to pull any punches …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:43 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 08:11 PM
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LOL is that your diagnosis, doc? So you're saying I like to be a pump and dump? So let me get this straight, I don't have sex with someone I care about immediately because I like to be a pump and dump? And what do I hide? I'd like to know your relationship advice so that I can succeed in the future o wise one Edit: No reply? Please I desperately need more of your unsolicited advice o logical one!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:31 PM
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This isn't a debate anyway, this is you coming in and assuming things about me when you don't even know my first name lmfao but I'm curious, what do you think I'm being dishonest about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:28 PM
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Lmaooo some of you guys on here are so shallow! I'm sorry but how on earth does your brain come to the conclusion that I treat a guy that I literally just said I don't care about and that I'm willing to drop at any time better than a guy that I do care about? Is sex the ONLY thing that matters to you in your life? You seem to see it as some kind of token of appreciation or something. Is fucking someone the only way for you to show that you care about them in your eyes??? Do you fuck all of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 05:19 PM
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There's such thing as self control lmao not everyone jumps on someone they desire immediately. Sometimes (most of the time) it's so much better to take the time to get to know somebody before having sex with them if you're looking for a ltr. Sorry I should've clarified that I'm talking about people looking for a ltr instead of people just looking for someone to bang Why do you keep responding by editing your comment? Please just send a reply. It's really hard to follow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:08 PM
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And how would you know that about a woman? Has someone told you that before or are you just assuming things? Because in my experience that's not true at all. Valuing and desiring someone are two different things...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:00 PM
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You believe that a person's value is based on whether people want to fuck them or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:50 PM
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Wait which one are you saying is "higher value" and why does a woman's decision on who she wants to have sex with determine how valuable of a person a man is in you mind? That sounds super misandrist
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:42 PM
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Yeah I hear you, I've definitely given some low blows on here before in the heat of a conversation too haha. And ah thanks for the explaination! Maybe that's because of the fact that a man proficient in lms has more attractive features than a man with just an amazing personality. I think anyone on earth would choose someone with the so called full package over someone with only average traits. Or if not the full package I think that person would be a lot less appealing. Like for example a guy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:06 PM
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And that's your valid decision to make just like it's a woman's decision whether or not she wants to sleep with a man upfront even if she has done so in the past or is doing so with another man. I'm only trying to explain how that specific situation doesn't automatically mean that the guy that has to wait is the backup option. Also I'm not saying you in particular have low self esteem I'm just saying as someone that actually has low self esteem, that particular thought process sounds like it cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:54 PM
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I still doubt that based on the fact that people's sense of attraction typically stems from societal norms. But that's just my assumption and I don't know for sure. I think in your eyes you'd be better looking because of those things but to people that don't care about that stuff in the first place it wouldn't really matter to them. That's like if someone with very fair skin were to move somewhere where most of the people have dark skin the chances of them being super attractive to most of those…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:43 PM
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Because it's not "logically inferring" anything if it's based on an assumption. It actually sounds to me like something someone with low self esteem would think. "Oh she said she wants to take more time to get to know me since she wants to be with me long term, yet she's having sex with another guy that she's planning on not talking to anymore once I prove myself to not just be wasting her time. That must mean she somehow likes him more than me and I'm just a backup option." I think that you cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:23 PM
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Or maybe she just also has a shitty personality and likes him because they are compatible in that sense? Your whole comment is based on a bunch of assumptions so here's my own added assumption. Different people date people for different reasons. Some women date men for looks or status and some date for personality. And also how do you know you'd be better looking than every guy in those places you named? Most likely to the women there you'd be an outlier and thus less attractive. Maybe some woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:12 PM
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In my experience it actually means she's more attracted to the guy she makes wait longer. As a woman, I've started talking to a guy and made him wait a bit because I wanted to make sure he actually wanted to be with me for me before I started to have sex with him. I slept with my fuckbuddy the night I met him because he didnt hold any importance to me and I never expected him to at all or expected for myself to hold any importance to him. It's the other way around for a guy that I actually want …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:59 PM
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We’re only arguing against chicks who simultaneously fuck guys they don’t know while making other guys wait because reasons. We’re using logic to determine that the reasons are she’ll always be more attracted to the guy she fucks without knowing and therefore is not LTR material, but is instead a manipulator. Here is where you said that it's a problem. Does that mean that you're also not ltr material and a manipulator as well? Or are we using double standards here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:52 PM
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Sure thing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:56 PM
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Nobody said researchers did a meta analysis of all the known studies nor does the article I posted say anything about that. A few cherry picked new studies is how we advance in knowledge over time. If I were to say in the past that all research I've done shows that the sky is green (likely because of a bias) and redo those studies now and find that it actually is blue I would believe the new studies. I think the fact that there are still things we don't know about women's anatomy should tell you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:41 PM
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Look I don't know how many times I have to say this but my orgasms definitely last longer than 5-15 seconds so no it is not rubbish to say that women's orgasms can last for 1-2 minutes because again MINE DO. In fact, researchers used to think that 3 to 15 seconds was about the duration of a female orgasm. Then they found evidence that a climax could go on for 20 seconds to 2 minutes. This is a copy paste of what the article said. Not that "every study prior says 5-15 seconds". (What is reading c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:17 PM
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Just because veganism didn't work out for you doesn't mean that the articles were necessarily wrong. Everyone is different when it comes to what you eat and how your body responds and ive known someone who says that it actually is better and healthier for them. And I'm not going to have a conversation with you if you're going to dismiss my linked evidence and try to tell me that "studies have shown" and not even bother to link or name the so called studies. Like sorry I definitely believe health…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:58 PM
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Ohhh okay context. And LMAO I'm in my early 20s but okay it makes my aging feel better to say I'm not attracted to children and that people that are are gross and that's the ONLY reason why. Definitely not because it actually is disgusting and shameful to want to fuck a teenager or anything. Like sure teenage girls can be pretty or even beautiful, there's no age limit on good genes but being actually attracted to them is weird af
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:48 PM
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considering the insane pleasure I get from prostate play I'd expect that the prostate has as many if not more than the vagina Oh so because prostate orgasms feel good to you that somehow means it has more nerve endings than the vagina? But you don't know what a woman's orgasm feels like first of all so how could you compare and second of all nobody is saying men's orgasms don't feel good. The point here is literally just that op is wrong. Men don't but women have an organ specifically designed f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:44 PM
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I'm getting some serious second hand embarrassment here lmao. Like how are you going to be that loud and not even bother to do a quick google to make sure you're right first
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:35 PM
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https://www.health.com/condition/sexual-health/female-orgasm-facts I can't believe you tried to go off on this person and didn't even bother to do a quick google search to back yourself up. My clit orgasms sometimes last for more than 30 seconds so even though the question wasn't specifically intended for me the answer is yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:31 PM
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I.... don't think I'm even going to finish this conversation. I'm like completely dumbfounded that you actually believe everything you said here. I don't think I'll ever be able to understand where you're coming from with all that so I'm just going to dip. Thank you for the response though!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 05:55 AM
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This is legit the answer to op's title. Because men aren't as educated when it comes to women's sexual pleasure and most people aren't as educated on women's anatomy. And op's post is literally exhibit A. "Evolution didn't select for women's sexual pleasure" yet the female sex organ has more than double the amount of nerve endings as that of males.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:24 PM
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Men aren't forced to stay with women and children and provide with them and that's easy to see with the amount of single mothers in the world. And also not to assume but are you implying that it's not a man's responsibility to help take care of a child that he helped to create? And I don't think I even need to comment on you saying that teenage girls are attractive 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:40 PM
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Oh okay. But again what does that have to do with the conversation at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:29 PM
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Who said that? And maybe I'm just missing the context here but what does that one specific person being afraid to reject that man have to do with so called "what every woman wants"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:21 PM
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Pretty messed up that you said that tbh. =/ back at you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 07:15 PM
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So people that have gone through trauma and/or have a mental illness are "crazy"? I don't use this word often but wow way to be ableist. Are traumatized men crazy as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:18 PM
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No comment on the kill all men and men are trash comments but how exactly are "feminists" supposed to know about a twitter post with 3 retweets and rally against it? It's literally a joke post first of all and second of all the blame for that post and posts like that fall on the person who made it. Just say clementine ford is a bad person and be done with it. No reason to be pissed at all women over some women's actions and same for men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 02:08 PM
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You missed the point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 10:16 PM
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What does working at mcdonalds have to do with women dating average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:48 AM
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So I should add up all men and then divide by the number of men there are? Thanks that helps me understand what you mean when you say average man. And when you say attractive do you mean physically attractive as in looks or just in general? Sorry I edited my second comment to ask that (again) after you already responded
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:47 AM
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Ah okay so who would be considered the average man? And when you say attractive do you mean physically attractive as in looks or just in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:43 AM
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What's the 'something else'? What do you think it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:32 PM
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Women that are dating average men (whatever you mean by that) do have a choice. They chose to date that man, it's not like they're forced into it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:31 PM
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But 'average' is subjective, is it not? What you think is an average man is probably different from what half the world thinks is an average man. And when you say attractive do you mean physically attractive as in looks or just in general? There are plenty of so called average looking men and even ugly men that have no issues in dating. And also there are people that date someone that isn't physically attractive to them and are still happy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 08:30 PM
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Why are you so mad? If you don't like what I said either contribute something of worth to the conversation or just downvote and go??? Like I honestly don't get it. It's not a crime to have a branch off conversation with someone on here. And the only thing that I even said is men's fault is violence committed by men and even then I'm not saying it's every man's fault. You really should calm down
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:52 PM
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Okay if that's how you feel lmfao! This is nothing like that since men aren't victims to pregnant women or women on their periods the way women are to these men that we're talking about but go off! Also i can't imagine being this upset about someone saying "hey violent men are the problem" like lol are they not? Am i wrong? Should we just not talk about it and let violent men continue to be violent? So freaking funny
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:07 AM
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You think people not being in relationships will lead to all of that? I don't see how mental instability would be a result of not dating. Or losing discipline and patience to work in society. I do think that's something that we're about to see a lot more of though but not specifically because of lack of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:25 AM
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Are your relationships solely based on you being hyper masculine? If not then it should be easy to just say to hell with the stereotypes and to stop putting yourself in a box. Yes there are societal pressures on men but that doesn't mean that you'll be punished in every case for not caving to those pressures. You're not going to miss out on a job opportunity or on your next meal for not being hyper masculine and that's just the reality of it. And also society includes men so part of the problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:42 PM
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Yes I couldn't have said it better myself! Im glad someone else here agrees though. Hopefully someday there will be services to help get people out of that kind of mindset and help them to work on themselves and their lives instead of being so daggone obsessed with sex and what women are doing!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:59 PM
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Period. I had a moment the other day while I was browsing this sub where I actually wondered if I'm just living detached from reality or something because it literally seems like we're not living in the same world. Like when did it become life threatening to not get laid or to get rejected and how on earth is violence or hatred towards women an acceptable response to that. I've been having conversations on here to try and understand the other perspective but it literally does not make sense to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:50 PM
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They are but for some reason nobody here can admit that to themselves. And the weirdest part about all of it is that, ironically, it's not all men! If the men that aren't bad would actually stand up and speak out I think that the problem would solve itself but for some reason they won't do that. I say "violence is bad" and I get the response that "women aren't without fault" like duh men and women are at fault when they are violent. Like that's literally what I said. I don't understand how hard …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:42 PM
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I'm not trying to dismiss the difficulty, I'm saying that the big difference is in selecting for traits of a man that would be violent for you versus a man that will be violent to you. If it's too hard for a man to be a manly man without being violent than he needs to either stop trying to be a manly man or like seek mental help. You don't have to balance those two behaviors at all, you literally don't HAVE TO do anything. I just realized I never addressed the last part of your last reply and ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:35 PM
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Yah I did actually type a lot, sorry about that! I agree with your first paragraph but I feel like it needs to go a step beyond that. Sure it's bad that people are being raised this way but in the information age that we live in today it can't be an excuse. I was raised a christian for example and as an adult I decided to educate myself and form my own opinions and now I'm not anymore. It can be that way in this situation too I think. Critical thinking should always be #1 as an adult. This secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:05 PM
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The difference is that they're selecting for men that will be violent FOR them not violent TO them. Big difference. And you can't say well what do they expect when the man that is always violent for them turns around and is violent to them because nobody expects their partner to hurt them and they shouldn't since their partner shouldn't hurt them. I just don't think that a woman wanting to be with a stoic man can be considered a variable in a conversation about men being violent. It's completely…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:46 PM
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Well I mean technically in the science sense men do need women to survive since women are the ones that give birth. And I would say vice versa but there's new technology that allows for fertilization of an egg without sperm if I'm not mistaken. I agree with you that most men won't rape or turn violent against women now but I also think that there aren't that many men in the world that are pissed off enough about not having sex/relationships to do something like that. How do you think that lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:46 PM
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They're tiptoeing around it because admitting that would mean that the problem is actually just men who are violent. In all of the conversations I've had on here, which haven't been a whole lot but still, nobody has said straight out that it's a problem that men are turning violent or unruly due to a lack of access to sex/relationships. I've seen them say it's an issue that men aren't getting enough sex and emotional connection with women and they're saying oh no that's making men violent but no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:37 PM
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Hello sorry for the super late response but for some reason I got a notification of your message but couldn't see it here until now? But I still want to chat about this if you do! First off men aren't assumed to be guilty, they're seen as a possible threat. I know it sounds super similar but it's different. Women assume men to be a threat because of statistics and past experiences. Sure not every man is bad just like every stray dog won't bite you but you want to take precautions just in case un…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:28 PM
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I agree with most of what you said here! The only thing I really disagree with is what you said about the traits that a lot of women go for. There is a difference between cold, noncommunicative, emotionless men and violent men. As a woman with a very traditional family that has a lot of older women in it I've seen and know the types of men that that type of woman usually goes for and I can tell you that they don't want or select for violent men. They do look for the classic stereotypical stoic '…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:02 PM
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I agree that men shouldn't be taught such a narrow concept of how women will react to them. But couldn't the solution to this just be for men to like think for themselves and stop expecting things? Not saying at all that's it's okay for men to be fed bullshit from the jump, just that the problem itself seems to be bullshit being fed in the first place. But once you (not you in particular) get out into the real world and have experiences of your own you should be able to form your own opinions an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:32 PM
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I do actually I've just been busy af the past two days between working and trying to find a place to live!! I haven't had the energy to write up an actual thoughtful response lol but I'll get to it now!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:45 PM
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(I don't know a simple way of putting your words into quotes on mobile so I'm just going to reply to what you said in order of paragraphs. Really sorry if that makes it kind of confusing) No that's a completely different situation since the fear of black men comes from a racist and very nuanced history whereas the fear of men in general comes from actual experiences that women have had and continue to have. And it's definitely the fault of the men who are violent! It's almost always the fault of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:41 PM
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Hm those are all known issues I feel like and they're definitely a problem! I feel like though the cause of all of these problems ironically seems to be other men. The reason why men are usually automatically assumed to be a bad person is because a lot of if not most men do bad things. And alotttt of women have had bad experiences with men and honestly that shit is scary! In a world where talking to man at a bar isn't very likely to end in something bad happening to the woman, it wouldn't make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:32 PM
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What things are men being taught that don't line up with reality? And what expectations do they have that aren't being met? Or which ones are you referring to here? (I know there's plenty of stuff that we're all taught that don't line up like you will get rich from just working hard and going to college lol). Just to be clear this conversation is specifically about sex/relationships right? What exactly do women need to hold each other accountable for? I feel like everyone has personal unrealisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:03 PM
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Hello I'd like to discuss this with you if you have the time/ want to! What do you mean when you say the modern environment is hostile towards men? And what issues do you think this will cause 5-20 years down the line? How will this negatively impact women? I don't want to argue, I'd just like to have a conversation and hear your opinions on this since I keep seeing guys bring this up on here and I haven't really seen any explaination on how this is such an issue besides the fact that it sucks t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:59 PM
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Could I ask how you think the issue could be solved? I'm a woman and don't understand how this is considered that big of an issue but I see men complain (for lack of a better word) about this on here all the time. I'm not here to argue at all, if you want to have a conversation about this I'll give my opinions and I want to hear yours as well but i don't want to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:52 PM
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Send them to South Carolina! Apparently they're bringing back firing squads
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 08:35 PM
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I think your third paragraph pretty much sums up this entire conversation lol. People should only go for other people that want the same things as them. But to address what you said: we have different definitions of 'being friendzoned'. I don't see the big issue with someone never seeing someone else as a possible sexual partner. Yeah it can hurt your feelings and self esteem a little but such is life, not everyone is going to be attracted to you just because you are attracted to them. Like you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 07:19 PM
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Ah okay thank you for explaining! It seems our difference in opinion just stems from difference in definition of the word friendzone. I still stand by everything I said but I think we actually believe the same thing, which is that stringing someone along is wrong either way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:34 PM
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I explained my line of thinking in my other comments on this thread. If you want to discuss feel free to reply to my other comments please!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:25 PM
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Also to add: when I hear the word friendzone I think of pretty much a guy who is being nice to a woman specifically because he thinks that she'll have sex with him in return, and then that guy being upset with her for not having sex with him, which is plain silly. Anyone can be strung along though and I think that's a bad thing to do to anyone regardless of gender. There are guys that get strung along too and I do think that's a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:14 PM
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It's not meant to invalidate that statement lol. If you want to know my opinion on the matter and talk about it, read my response to the other person in this thread. I typed out a whole thing about why I don't think 'friendzoned' guys are being used as emotional crutches. I just don't want to type it out again
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:06 PM
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Sex and emotional support. Strung along girlfriends are literally just a girlfriend but without the label and without commitment from the guy. Meaning they usually fill the 'duties' of being a gf which include both emotional support and sex imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 06:01 PM
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Strung along girlfriends are being used as an emotional crutch? I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:47 PM
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You say this as if having sex with a guy is some kind of reward for being a good friend. Why can't friendship just be enough? I don't understand how wanting emotional support from someone that you think of as a friend is a bad thing unless the she in this situation is receiving emotional support but not giving any back. Maybe that's what the issue is, men expecting sex in return for being a friend even though sex and friendship are not the same thing. When you sign up for friendship you can't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 05:40 PM
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So partner=dancing monkey?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:16 PM
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I feel like they're different because 'friendzoned' guys aren't being used, they're just seen as friends whereas strung along girlfriends are actually strung along for the specific purpose of being used
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 04:02 PM
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The last guy I talked to drove a car wayyyy shittier than mine and the guy before him didn't even have a car (and was overweight since people keep saying that makes someone 'average') and I was crazy about both of them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 10:04 PM
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I don't think that's true, what you said about facial aesthetics. It's completely subjective. Sure maybe some people are generally more attractive to a wider group of people but it depends on a bunch of different factors like who you grew up around, the people that you see in the media, and your own personal taste. Sure maybe for you a certain ethnicity has better features than others but maybe for someone else that same ethnicity has features that they don't find attractive. I've known people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 09:58 PM
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Your original message seemed to imply that women that are attracted to men with money are only using them for that money. So you saying looks are intrinsic to a person in response to someone saying "but men do the same with looks" sounds like you're saying that it's okay to use someone as long as its for an intrinsic trait. Didn't seem like anyone was talking about attraction and desire. Sorry if I misread!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:20 PM
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Well this is a different topic but I....don't feel that way. What about people that are infertile and can't adopt? Do they just never have lasting relationships? I think you can have a long term relationship without the ultimate goal being having a child. It's possible to keep someone in your life just because you love them. People don't necessarily have anything physical tying them to their friends yet you can have a friendship that lasts your whole life. And I feel like it would be even more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:12 PM
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And? What does that have to do with the fact that there's more to a relationship than having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 07:00 PM
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What does SMV mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 04:39 PM
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So it's only okay to use someone if you're using them for an intristic trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 04:38 PM
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Maybe for you but I'd say there's a lot more to a relationship than sex and having kids. Not to mention some straight people don't even want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 04:26 PM
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I don't agree with making men the legal breadwinner always but don't have any alternatives to propose. Something's definitely got to give though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 03:07 AM
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Do you live with her? At age 42 how would she even know if you're dating and/or having sex with someone unless you tell her? You're grown, she shouldn't have that much influence over your dating life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 04:21 PM
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Both sides have fear of people being dependent on them. The father having to support the family financially and the mother having to do everything else. Both have a child depending on them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:08 PM
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Ohh okay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:18 PM
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Oh do you think thats unfair or are you saying those men think it's unfair? I feel like you can't base unfairness on whether someone has sex/a partner or not since there's like still time for that to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:48 PM
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What do you mean by that though? Like how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:34 PM
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What's unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:23 PM
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Different women have different opinions and reasons for not/wanting to fuck somebody. We don't all share the same brain you know. I personally don't hate men who haven't had sex before but I would prefer to have a partner that has had sex because of the fact that they're more experienced which usually means they're better in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:10 PM
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