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Here are a few. Notice they can't bring themselves to call them "male feminists" (this would be like a white racist accepting coloured people into his clan) - it must always be the subservient title "male allies": http://dicographydiscussions.tumblr.com/post/67304151329/i-really-fucking-hate-male-feminists http://www.xojane.com/issues/unpopular-opinion-it-pisses-me-off-when-men-call-themselves-feminists http://kareningalasmith.com/2013/12/16/thanks-and-all-but-no-thanks-i-dont-want-men-in-my-fem…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 09:44 AM
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All commodity markets, especially international ones, are enforced militarily (and violently). This includes oil, corn and zinc. Drugs aren't an exception, they're just policed by criminal militaries.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 09:34 AM
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I was under the impression he had ordered assassinations or something. I'm not massively familiar with this
/r/MensRights01/06/15 08:48 AM
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I think you hit the nail on the head, one of the best explanations I've read. I would add that there are male feminists who have the 'childhood factor'. E.g. liberal parents whose belief system is transmitted. Or guys with an absent father (emotionally or physically). Have come across that before.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 05:05 AM
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I learn so much asking Reddit questions. There's another nice detail they never taught us in school.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 03:28 AM
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Male feminists are jackasses. Feminists hate them more than any other type of man. I've read over a half dozen articles by feminists talking about their deep hatred of male feminists. They use them for various tasks and aims but keep them at arms length.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 02:38 AM
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Every single time this happens, it accelerates. Every single incident, every protest, every Twitter tantrum, leads us closer to what we could call The Big Foot Down. When The Big Foot Down happens, there will be no more Twitter tantrums, trigger censorship articles, or general senseless movements that just bitch and whine about this and that. Society is a massive thing involving many people, and it generally knows how to fix its problems, given time, and how to set its path straight, when it rea…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 02:27 AM
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Lol yeah quite. I read somewhere about an ancient Indonesian matriarchal society. The females owned all property. Men were wondering vagrants. When the women wanted to procreate, they left a sign on the door and let a man of their choice in, who they would fuck in exchange for food and board and kick him out later. If given the chance to, feminism will make men a lower class of creature than farm animals.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 02:20 AM
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I don't see a fail. What's your reasoning?
/r/MensRights01/06/15 02:06 AM
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This is the eternal fallacy that I cannot get through people's heads. You must be consistent. If men get paid more, it is unjust. If women get paid more, it is competence. You cannot have it both ways. Either inequality is unjust, or it isn't.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:58 AM
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the ones there are competent enough to deserve higher wages That's quite a theory - do you have evidence for this?
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:44 AM
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Tl;DR. Men and women have both lived on the planet for many thousands of years. There's little reason to suspect that one of them is more resilient than the other. Looking further afield, I don't see bitches that are more resilient than dogs, cows that are more resilient than bulls, or sheep that are more resilient than rams. This kind of science is almost always propagandist - i.e. the data is selected and interpreted according to preconceptions. The Queen of England is more resilient than a wo…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:39 AM
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They can both get fucked for all I care.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:33 AM
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I think people are talking a lot of bullshit here, if I may say so. The mean and the median are both frequently used measures for an "average" - i.e. a concise "summary" of many data points. The mean is mathematically in the centre, but it is very sensitive to outliers. So if you have 10 guys, 9 making 10 dollars an hour, and 1 making 1000 dollars an hour, the mean will give you an average of 109/person average wage, which is unrepresentative. If you take the median, it is still 10 dollars/hour,…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:31 AM
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I am to the left in most ways, although I think polar left-right politics is a little like the Pepsi-Coke marketing trope. I have many Muslim friends and my general view is that poor people and disempowered people need a little extra help to empower themselves and get up to the same level as everyone else in society. That help usually isn't providing them material benefits (e.g. food handouts), but actually stopping others in society preventing their success because they fear competition (e.g. b…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:15 AM
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That's a very interesting point. What really interests me is: is this something so basic that it can't be changed? If so, I might as well give up on educating myself and advocating for improvements for males in society, because it would be like asking a dog to purr. On the other hand, if it's possible to change it, it feels like there's no more relevant time when that might happen than now. I basically feel like we've had our heads so filled with feminism all our lives that we've become convince…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 01:08 AM
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Lol. If you're a man, you summed up many of the reasons well, but maybe not in the way you intended to.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:31 AM
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This is obviously a fake campaign.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:30 AM
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Acid attacks are horrendous and what happened to these women is sickening and awful. I can't even imagine it in my worst nightmare. However you're correct that the majority of these attacks are not committed by men, although that's what we're led to believe, of course.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:22 AM
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She diverted accusations by saying it was a feminist book about strong female villains, because to be honest, any woman who doesn't declare allegiance to the Cult will get banished and have her career ended. However, it is my impression that in private, she probably wrote the book about some real issues she sees in the world - of women capable of making these kinds of accusations out of self-interest, and so on. Frankly, the novel is a feminist heresy, which she disguised with various diversions…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:18 AM
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Outliers don't drive up the median. I think you're thinking of the mean. The median is the middle value. The mean is the average. You can have outliers and the median doesn't change.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:12 AM
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It both saddens me greatly, and doesn't surprise me at all, that the U.S. is complicit in trafficking boys for warlords in Afghanistan. I mean, they're willing enough to carpet bomb young boys there for the smallest infraction, so I don't see why they wouldn't sell them for sex to fulfil their various foreign policy aims. Terrible and sickening. I'm sure it's because of Patriarchy, and we'll getting even more Patriarchal on them when Hilary Clinton is calling the shots again.
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:05 AM
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This kind of culture isn't limited to Afghanistan. Actually, I'm from the UK, and there's a long history of this among the British upper class. Basically, it was considered ok in British middle-class culture to fuck young boys as a hobby for posh, wealthy men. This has been a part of British culture for centuries, but has come under fire since around the 1980s. My personal belief is this is because of the culture of sending boys to all-boys boarding school for most of their childhood up to age 1…
/r/MensRights01/06/15 12:02 AM
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All that feminists go on about these days is executive positions and pay (because they already are paid more in all other areas). So I think it is relevant.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 07:50 PM
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I'm afraid I don't agree with mixing conversations about race with male advocacy. Men of all ethnic backgrounds are affected by discrimination - actually, men from ethnic minorities are affected the most. So I don't agree with this point you're trying to make.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:47 PM
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AVFM have made a deliberate choice about how they present themselves, and it works for them I have to be honest with you - I think Paul Elam is retroactively saying that he deliberately presented extreme views to attract attention, when in fact he just wrote some violent rants that got a lot of negative attention, and has since decided on a more moderate approach. I am a full sympathiser with male advocacy, I enjoy the work of AVfM contributors, and I fucking hate radical feminists - but when I …
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:40 PM
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They will ban you for even saying hello. Unless you introduce yourself with "I want men's rights activists to suck dicks for cash in prison, all of them", they will ban you.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:26 PM
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I don't think race has much to do with it personally. I do believe white people (men and women - women principally) are the privileged class in the rich world. But there is obviously a lot of mixing and overlap - there are many poor whites, and there are many rich people from other backgrounds. Separating things on race lines is a generalisation that often marginalises as many people as it includes.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:24 PM
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Jezebel is such a professional troll-hub that it wouldn't surprise me if most of its "journalists" are themselves anonymous Reddit trolls in their free time. If a single one of you reads this, I want you to know how happy it makes me to read this piece of bigoted reactionary squealing. As male advocacy grows (as it must, because society cannot function with an under-educated, under-employed and over-incarcerated male population), it will be a pleasure to read more frequent laments and hysterical…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:16 PM
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Let them harp on with this bullshit. I work in technology and it won't fly, totally impractical and stupid.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 06:06 PM
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And tell them I want the porn shield lifted? What about my wife and the other people who live in this house? The point is that AVfM has ended up listed in the same content category as porn. I cannot think of any political group this might happen to apart from Al Qaeda or Nazis. They are not using the best strategy to communicate what is a very touchy and difficult polity to communicate, in my opinion. Of course, I can't blame them for all the bottom-barrel feminists who probably caimpaign with c…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 05:41 PM
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Each time feminists see a position of power vacated by a man who faced false accusations of battery or sexual assault, they glow inside. This is exactly the motivation behind their incessant drive to strengthen these kinds of accusations.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 05:06 PM
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The ISP is Sky Broadband. The website isn't strictly "banned" - you can access it from 10pm-5am, similar to other "explicit/adult content" sites.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 05:01 PM
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AVfM has been one of the LARGEST REASONS the MRM has been getting public attention Did you read what I wrote? They are banned from my ISP in the UK. They are like a banned pornography site. That's their status in the UK of raising awareness for issues. No, we'll move to one of the already growing backup subreddits What is your particular love for the name "men's rights"? For starters, in the very title it doesn't include non-adult males (i.e. boys).
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:55 PM
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Gentleman angel investor only invests in start-ups run by m'ladies. His mother probably petted him when she heard of his gentle policy.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:52 PM
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Download an Alibi app, keep it on, and make sure you always have proof. It's the only way to be sure you'll never get shafted by shit like this.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:48 PM
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It's such a hot potato, they don't want to say things how they are. All these journos and academics are realising that men are getting shafted in every area of society, but they know that if they come out and say it they'll be linched and hung as rape-apologist misogynists.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:46 PM
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Haha you got me there.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:44 PM
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I think marketing are PR are important. Without them you don't get anywhere. For example, CAFE in Toronto is probably the most successful MRA org that exists just now (Canadian Association for Equality). They have been very careful with their marketing and messaging. AVfM on the other hand is banned from my ISP, I can't even read it. Neither can anyone else in England who uses my ISP, possibly others. Others are threatening to ban this sub from Reddit as a hate-group or misogynist group. When th…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:41 PM
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Lol, completely typical - have we made a grand mistake in making the same prison policies that apply to males also apply to females?
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:07 PM
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The website itself would be simple to make. Getting people to report so you have good and up to date data is the hard part.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:44 PM
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Believe me: as soon as you spend 5 minutes trying to advocate for men or males in any way, you will be attacked like you've never been attacked in your life, no matter what you call the society. They will come at you with everything. You will be confronted with extremists who are not interested in meeting halfway. However, don't let that put you off: it can be quite fun watching them squeal and squirm as their 50 years of cultural dominance begins to come to an end
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:41 PM
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Wow. I seriously was not aware of this. Female CEOs make 150% what male CEOs make? And how is there a fucking wage gap at the top of society??
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:29 PM
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I'm going to be honest with you: if you want to do it, do not call it "men's rights". This name just seems to hold everything back. Call your society something with a broader appeal: something like "Society for Gender Equality", "Society for Male and Female Equality", or if you really want it to be obviously focused on male issues from the name (it will make it harder for you), maybe "Society for Male Human Rights".
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:23 PM
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I think we're about to witness a fem-race to the bottom between HuffPo and the Guardian.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:21 PM
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We live in a highly sexualised world in which for the most part it is considered quite acceptable [for men] to do as they want with females Lol, are we living on the same planet? Is this the same world where sexual abuse is the front cover of 3/4 newspapers, where every 1/2 columns is a discussions of male perversion, and where I don't believe I know a single person male or female who thinks men can "do as they want" with females? The more ridiculous it gets, the more you have to laugh...
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:16 PM
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Here, a compilation of monkeys fucking with people. Assault, or hilarious? You decide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPxcFm_S1qc
/r/MensRights31/05/15 02:51 PM
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I think you are morphing the story into something it isn't. She complained that the monkeys sexually assaulted her. This is patently ridiculous. You're saying the people should have helped her. I'm saying her claim of sexual assault is hysterical and bordering on insane.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 02:31 PM
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I don't know if you're from the UK. The Daily Mail is a reactionary tabloid that prints everything out of context and almost never has a balanced approach. Anything you read there I would advise you investigate further by actually finding the exact quotes an the context in which they were said from other sources. About whether this guys is the champion for MHR - I certainly have noticed him speaking up for male human rights, but I think the real champion, when she or he arrives, will be apolitic…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 02:24 PM
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Some claim? What do you mean? The people around her should be charged for not preventing a rape? Have you ever been around monkeys? They're cheeky little c*nts. They run up and grab your shit, try to steal food from you, are generally little assholes. That's what they do. If you don't want this to happen don't go see fuckin monkeys. This woman is being a hysterical crybaby and is under the influence of rape-culture victimism.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 02:05 PM
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They are the feminist taliban Nice. Maybe they'll start to realise more allegories that are accurate for their various extremist factions.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 01:49 PM
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I thought discriminating against men wasn't possible. In any case, they've obviously realised women don't want to work in the police, and are taking actions to boost successful male applicants.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 01:14 PM
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This is their own stupid choice. Only 18% of the population wants to read about feminism. They limit their readership to 18% of the market. The more radical they get, the less interested those other 82% will be.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 01:11 PM
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I thought the whole point is he was violent
/r/MensRights31/05/15 12:59 PM
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Icelandic men are a bunch of miserable bastards - emasculated morons who like to display fake bravado when they go abroad and appeal to their viking mythology. Sorry, huge generalisation of my own experience there.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:17 AM
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They are literally begging men to stand up and say, "fuck off, enough is enough." They're saying, "look, we're treating you like girls. We're just humiliating you everywhere. What are you gonna do about it? Are you gonna be men or girls?" And the manginas go, "muh modern men, women's rights, toilet sitty down."
/r/MensRights31/05/15 03:13 AM
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The system allows an alleged victim to hold back on submitting their report unless someone else reports the same assailant Cool. We will see the "rape epidemic" convert into the "serial rapist epidemic" pretty soon then.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 02:14 AM
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On the one hand, I find this hilarious. On the other, I think it is totally unrelated to men's rights.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 01:40 AM
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Some brilliant responses to this at the bog-troll sub AMR. The funniest being that they take for granted she was actually being sexually assaulted by monkeys. I guess you must believe the victim
/r/MensRights31/05/15 12:51 AM
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There is no rape culture. Men like this writer are douchebags trying to get jobs in journalism (writing shit like this is the easiest way to get in these days). There is no rape culture. There is a culture with fewer and fewer men in good jobs, who are attractive prospects for women. This means the men who are available, are competed for more, and sleep around more. This means women hate male sexuality and totally distrust it. It's basically a big feminist boomerang that's come back and caused f…
/r/MensRights31/05/15 12:42 AM
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Like everywhere else in the rich world, a small group of rich men have figured out how to maintain their power by creating a buffer female state.
/r/MensRights31/05/15 12:34 AM
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How many ways can journalists find to get around saying: "after everything that happened, it seems like she's made the whole thing up. Still seems like a nice girl - she gets off because pussy-pass."
/r/MensRights30/05/15 11:31 PM
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I think this is a good time for middle class people to wonder why we sympathise with Ulbright, but think of poor-community drug dealers as criminals.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 11:23 PM
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Look, I take your point on board. I'm honestly not interested in claiming any moral highground over feminists because it doesn't get me anywhere. It's obvious to me this book was referenced by many dozens of feminist academics for years, and if you do a quick Google search, you will see it is a very popular reference for misandrist feminists. This book is a product of a feminist status quo. One of the author's is also the long-term biographer of Jane Goddall, and there are articles where he disc…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 11:19 PM
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That's fine - I would point out I'm not spreading misinformation like you say, I simply have a different interpretation from you. My interpretation happens to be more accurate than yours. But we're both entitled to one.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 11:04 PM
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I would be happy to go looking for sources that directly link the authors to feminism more explicitly. But I don't think it's necessary. I personally do not distinguish between ideological misandrists and feminists. There is a large enough overlap for me not to need to refer to them as separate things. So it's as clear to me that the authors are feminists as if they'd written a book called "Why men must give up power" or "Why women will rule the future". They don't need to say "I'm a feminist" e…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 10:47 PM
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I did read the link. I've also read the book. This book is inseparable from 1980s/90s feminist doctrine. The whole discourse about the chimpanzee being an evil animal etc. I don't believe the book is an attack on "deconstructivist feminist theory" like the Wikipedia page states. I don't believe anyone who wrote a book about male orangutans as demons could be anything other than a feminist. I don't think men are biologically violent This isn't really the point. "Strength" (the thought-positive wo…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 10:33 PM
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I'm keen to organise pro-manspread protests in London. I want to call them sprotests. /s Seriously though, when you're not even allowed to sit in a way that's comfortable, something has got to change.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 10:19 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" - incredible the number of liberal douchebags I see flouting this term. Apparently, toxic masculinity is what you find amongst males such as: aggressive teenagers, playboys, successful executives, high-school dropouts, young men in bars, MRAs, computer nerds, gamers, comic geeks, wall street traders. I.e. there's no such thing as all those men couldn't be more different from each other - it's just a term to formalise what feminists' dislike or disapprove of in the male charac…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 09:46 PM
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Good. Now I hope they focus on one of the other 100 issues they've totally fucked up in the last 50 years.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 09:40 PM
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My wife describes herself as a feminist sympathiser (not an active feminist). She has no problem with my beliefs about feminism, because after I showed her all the blogs and quotes of feminists hating on men, she said it was fair enough to not be into feminism with so many haters (although she thinks they're not representative). I'm not an MRA, but I believe male human rights' issues will be the most transformative over the next 20-30 years, more than female rights.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 07:40 PM
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With that statement she's already earned her bonus pussypass. She'll be writing columns for HuffPo and the Guardian for years now, themed on such things as her university shopping experiences and how hard it is to get good grades.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 06:44 PM
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But what on earth could she mean? Feminism has never been opposed to men or families. Haven't you read the dictionary? Piff /s
/r/MensRights30/05/15 06:40 PM
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Actually, you'd be more likely to find the KKK on feminist themed subs- the Klanswomen have a very intertwined history with feminism. I'm going to leave it there because you're just trolling me. I think fat shamming is stupid and I've never come across it on this site.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 02:52 PM
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Is that right? Other subs like to delete and ban people for their views. However, if that policy was followed here, you would have been deleted and banned swiftly. Doing it like this, people actually get to hear what you want to say.
/r/MensRights30/05/15 12:47 AM
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Stupid feminist c*nt.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 07:16 PM
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I'm not talking about the comments people make, I'm talking about the actual post. You will not find posts here with that theme. Commenters can say whatever the hell they want, that's nobody else's choice
/r/MensRights29/05/15 07:14 PM
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"They must learn to adapt." They'll have to do it themselves, society will not help. "Although a lot has been achieved in terms of gender equality, more still needs to be done." Although equality has already been achieved, for some reason a lot more still needs to be done to achieve equality. Perfect logic.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 07:12 PM
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I haven't seen it yet and the spoilers are killing me.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 06:59 PM
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It's not so much jobs that feminists won't do, as jobs that society won't encourage women to do, because society tries to protect women. Feminists refuse to recognise this, although I believe this is dishonest, because they know inside it's true. They want to maintain the trope of "equality" to further their own power agenda, but keep quiet about it in areas that suits them.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 06:30 PM
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What the fuck, what's wrong with you? How is that a post about fat people?
/r/MensRights29/05/15 04:31 PM
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That isn't a post about fat people. It's another post about posts about fat people like the one you made. Can you find an actual post that was made about fat people?
/r/MensRights29/05/15 04:02 PM
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This is off topic, nothing to do with men's rights. I believe it should be removed.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 03:49 PM
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Completely off topic. Never seen a post here about fat people. Troll.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 03:48 PM
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it's because of patriarchy that we see men as capable of handling rape situations on their own. Essentially, it's men and cultures fault that female on male rape isn't handled seriously There we go, found it. It's cause of patriarchy
/r/MensRights29/05/15 02:16 PM
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Dude, really? Robin Williams is a COMEDIAN.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 04:22 AM
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The market for charity isn't decided by those who organise it but by those who give it.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 03:02 AM
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that is when my muai thai skills come in handy Haha what a stupid cunt, I hope this was a joke.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 12:08 AM
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Sorry, I forgot the /s
/r/MensRights26/05/15 11:39 PM
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whites make up only 8% of the global population Do you have a link-source for this that won't be banned by my internet service provider?
/r/MensRights26/05/15 10:21 PM
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You people are insane. I've lived in the Middle East. They're fucking people like everyone else. You're fucking ignorant as shit
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:36 PM
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There are various reasons for which I hate this odious woman. But. When is it OK to put your hand up and point out what is happening without fear of retribution or being labelled a racist because you are white As a white person this never makes sense to me. It isn't ok for the queen to stick two fingers up and say, "up yer arse son", but it doesn't mean she's a victim of society.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:24 PM
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Lol. A serial-killer false rape accuser. You will see more of these I'm sure.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 07:45 PM
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Within twenty years, we will have Sexual Assault By Dissent. If you are not literally a sex prostitute whose only sexual purpose is to obey orders, you are a rapist. Some smart cunt should write a film script about that, they'll be calling him a genius in 2050
/r/MensRights26/05/15 07:31 PM
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I couldn't detect any sarcasm in the article. These three women did not state that they thought most men were not rapists. They pointed out 1, 2, 3 people they know who they seem kinda confident aren't rapists. From the way their messages were worded, it seemed to me in fact to suggest that they do believe almost all men apart from that handful are some or other breed of rapist.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 07:21 PM
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It's fun isn't it? Now another one - "help girls", "help boys", "help animals". Girls come out on top of animals this time, but boys still way behind both. https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=help%20girls%2C%20help%20boys%2C%20help%20animals&geo=US&cmpt=q&tz=
/r/MensRights26/05/15 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the reply and I mean this constructively. I've found an interesting anecdote that suggests an underlying truth about humanity's attitude to boys and girls. In reply you are asking me to change the human race. The only possible way that could ever happen is if every human being learned of their bias, and the only way that can happen is by pointing it out to them. It isn't going to change by me setting up a $5/month credit to Unicef fund for boys (in the unlikely case that it exists). A…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 06:44 PM
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So are we saying Muslim men aren't welcome here or what?
/r/MensRights26/05/15 02:36 PM
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You waded in with an aggressive tone. You couldn't be expecting warmth in return. The OP says nothing about oppression, it draws attention to a gender bias in people's thoughts about children's charities
/r/MensRights26/05/15 02:07 PM
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Sorry to hear that
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:56 PM
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I posted an image from my mobile for people to see. I'm sorry you're offended, it's only a graph. Would you prefer an involved infographic with exaggerated and out of context data to appeal to emotion? I'm sure you spend your time in reddit pursuing more gracious causes
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:28 PM
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Yes, and by same logic we put more men in government because they're hard done by and need a chance. Some common sense is helpful
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:27 PM
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Yes, what is the relevance of 'Muslim' here?
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:25 PM
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Zero relevance to men's rights. There are Muslim users of this site for whom this is not helpful.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:04 PM
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Eh, I'm perplexed the relevance is not self-evident.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 12:11 PM
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they are both consenting to the consequences if one gets pregnant Not the female, she has choices after becoming pregnant. I think education around fatherhood and how much of a joy it can be as well as a stress (especially portrayed in the media) would help No, you are getting it wrong. You are assuming that men need to be educated to be fathers. This is wrong. Men are born to be fathers. Society is holding them away from this natural born role that they don't need to be taught. It is doing this…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 11:08 AM
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I thought Voat is just Reddit with the breaks off
/r/MensRights26/05/15 10:27 AM
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Some silicon valley wizz needs to start a definitive site that does not need to ban people or limit FoS, while having rigorous checks in place so that advertisers are happy and harassment, etc are impossible. How damn hard can it be.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:31 AM
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My personal response would be that I'm aware of the privilege I have over some ethnic minorities, poor people, and people less fortunate than me. However, I am not aware of being privileged over the people who write posts like that and are constantly asking me to check my privilege; for example white feminists. They are just as privileged as me, and often much more, and their "check your privilege" campaigns are a tactic within a power struggle, because they are competing with people in their li…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:26 AM
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No. That sub is an office of the People's Department of Dealing with Trauma with Glorious Inside Jokes.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 08:43 AM
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Someone I actually know personally put this on Facebook. It still amazes me that some people experience the world and men this way
/r/MensRights26/05/15 07:15 AM
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Again my reply will have to be short, just about the HuffPost page - I'm guessing you're not a man, because I can promise reading that front-page feels like reading a parody. I'm not sure if it even might be a parody. It is some warped mixture of what feminists idealise as the "reconstructed man", which is mostly, to be honest, the kind of things women like to read about with the genders switched. That's why I posted it to you to start with.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 01:03 AM
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The Guardian allows most things in news topics, but the editors of its "women" themed articles are iron fist comrades. I once enquired innocently about whether Hillary Clinton would announce that she is a lesbian before the election date (I am not a Republican sympathiser and have no special hate for Hillary, I just am curious whether she's a lesbian), and my comment was removed followed by "pre-moderation" for several weeks. Jokes aside, I think they (feminist editors) are a little like school …
/r/MensRights26/05/15 12:29 AM
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Agreed - I'm fairly new to reddit to be honest and I'm not sure what the politics of the new harassment rules are, or whether people are trying to manipulate the rules to censor people.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 12:14 AM
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I just replaced with a new image, try now.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 12:05 AM
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Thanks for the long reply - I'm very sorry but I don't have time for a similarly generous reply myself right now. But I'll leave you with some points. HuffPost is a generally feminist sympathising newspaper. It's section about men's issues is called "building better men". Take a look: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/men/ There are many similar efforts elsewhere. U.S. university graduates are a massive female majority - this is completely uncontroversial. You will have to dig out the most re…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 09:44 PM
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If two people have sex and a woman gets pregnant, if they are not a couple and the pregnancy is unplanned - i.e. an accidental pregnancy - then the woman may get an abortion. Abortions are safe in this age, and she is the only one with a say in that matter. If she decides this is not something she wants to do, that is her choice, the male has no say in that - so can he be legally bound by it? You tell me. If the pregnancy is planned, but the couple then separates, there is no question that the f…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 07:32 PM
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That's a very long conversation we could have. To try to answer very briefly, there could be some immediate, specific things feminists could get on board with: the "education gap": boys are being failed wholesale by the education system. Girls are outpeforming in all areas in school, and massively outnumber males in universities. I would ask feminists to let go of their iron grip on education policy and theory, and allow society to experiment with the education system so that boys can make as mu…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 07:08 PM
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Good lord that's gold. Is that confirmed to be real? It sounds like something a prankster might have laced into Twitter for unwitting and lazy journalists
/r/MensRights25/05/15 06:34 PM
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Feminists love crucifixion by internet when it's them doing the crucifying - in fact, they pioneered it. But they don't seem so keen when one of their own bites the dust.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 04:12 PM
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The anthropology graduates and Quasi-Fluid Identity PhDs will be tut-tutting all of this. They will ignore it, but they won't be one inch happy that she's stepped out of line. Their deep understanding of the technology industry and the people within it will continue to confirm their belief that Patriarchy is written into the very syntax of c++ (anyone noticed the oppressive symbolism of Boolean binaries?)
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:34 PM
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Some examples: The "life gap" or "existence gap" : for instance, there are 15% less African American men than women, because they are either dead or jailed for life. The "life gap" exists in all ethnic groups. The "education gap" : radical feminist policies in universities and the education system have led to males under-performing in every single academic area and to women constituting 65% of university graduates. The "parent gap" : women overwhelmingly have the privilege of living with and rai…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:22 PM
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You are raising a bunch of very relevant and interesting contradictions. We don't afford men basic paternity rights - a man's only choice in becoming a father is the act of having sex. A man does not even have protection if a woman STEALS HIS SPERM for insemination (see recent cases where this happened). A woman's choices extend beyond that. We also don't afford men protection of their paternity, once they have chosen to be fathers - because we allow the state to separate them from their childre…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:10 PM
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Men are more likely to go to jail for equal crimes in just about every area, so don't be surprised that they are in this case too: http://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/sentencing-gap-men-likely-go-prison-mrzs/
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:02 PM
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Feminists are at their core traditionalists. They want traditional roles for men (although they cry about the need for men to 'feminise', which is a bullshit role that doesn't exist - that of the feminised man, with no ability to self-protect, but who is totally unprotected by society). Feminists are fundamentally traditionalists, with the caveat that they want women to contribute equally in politics and labour being the only difference.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 12:07 PM
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I think the reading of radical feminists as ugly and talentless is outdated and wrong. Radical feminists are ambitious, Machiavellian and sociopathic, similar to all the fiercest political animals. They can smell a gravy train when they see one, they attack hell for leather, and they have no problem with the human capital that gets laid by the wayside. Don't underestimate your enemy. Radical feminists are extremely competent and embedded players these days.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:58 AM
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Doesn't bother me. To be frank with you, a little of the 'brotherhood' spirit of communism would come in handy in mobilising the masses of men who have been blinded by feminism and individualism.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:52 AM
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Believe me, they can't let one slip. There's no such thing as help for boys. Boys can only be helped by turning them away from their inner need to be angry, to abuse people, to assault people and so on. This is their thinking through and through.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:47 AM
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recovery from childhood abuse and anger "Hi there. We're here to help you recover from your childhood anger. How much anger did you have as a child? Were you an angry child, abusing women from an early age? Were you an angry child who didn't know about consent?" (Phone the police, Jeremy)
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:25 AM
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(1) Risk taking is socialised. Males are encouraged to show bravado and take risks from an early age. There are many reasons for this. (2) Male risk taking has a natural instinctive component. This is because risk taking can have many benefits, such as getting a higher salary (because you took the risk to fucking ask for it). (3) Authors like this narcissistic femicunt overrate themselves so heavily. They may never take the risks that could lead them to win a Darwin Award, or a Nobel Prize, but …
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:16 AM
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This is feminism mascarading as help for men. They will offer you council on how not to beat your wife (because they assume you need it), council on how not to be upset that you can't see your children, council on how to accept the reality of your alimony payments, and all that good stuff.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:03 AM
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Moderate feminism doesn't exist. Moderate feminism is a term that means, "people who support radical feminism without really bothering to learn the details or think about all its implications." You could add to that, "they support it because they can feel the tangible benefits and privileges radical feminism wins for them, but they don't have the political energy to be involved in the grass-roots." Think of it like this: there are people who are members of the Republican party, and there are peo…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 11:00 AM
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The more cases like this emerge, the more I'm certain that the only way forward is a large-scale, organised movement unlike anything we've seen yet to tackle this.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 10:50 AM
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The Democrat party is not a left-wing party in the real sense of that word. They are working in the old carcass of a left-wing movement, but they are a reactionary, militarist, right-wing organisation that is structured to represent the status quo, which is in my definition right wing.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 10:35 AM
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I agree with you. However, I feel that the generalisations of left and right have existed for so long, and survived, because they generalise a central aspect of politics in all human societies which is this: the right wing, in some form or other, exists to defend status quo, or the ruling group. The left wing, on the other hand, represents the aspiring competitor, the group that is challenging the status quo for power. Looked at that way, you can explain almost all right/left wing movements accu…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 10:32 AM
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I'm very similar to you politically. I think it's important that people like us share information on sites like this and others from our particular point of view. We have to help show that this voice is quite a large contingent of those concerned with male human rights. My belief is that if male human rights become a truly significant force, they will be advocated for by the left wing, and the right wing reactionaries in feminism will turn to the right (in fact, we are already seeing a big swing…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 10:27 AM
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He doesn't get it. Blames the guard, the police, the government cuts - but he's too scared and brainwashed to see this as the social effect of gynocentric feminism. Or if he does see it, he keeps it quiet because his career as an author would be over tomorrow were he to say so.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 10:05 AM
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He got the full treatment. "Do you have a girlfriend?" Tut tut, son! "There are enough male voices in the media..." shut down, check your privilege! What these snotrags don't understand is having male voices in the media, does not equate to having voices that advocate for male issues in the media. In fact, I think they do understand it - but they want to conceal that understanding from their viewers.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 04:15 AM
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Yep, I think we agree on the core principle: everyone deserves a chance, and everyone should be treated fairly (i.e., equality).
/r/MensRights25/05/15 03:55 AM
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Well no shit, and men don't really like insecure women either - insecurity is problematic. It's a stifling thing in life that people need to figure out somehow.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 03:47 AM
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That's very interesting - you first started reading this critically?
/r/MensRights25/05/15 03:45 AM
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Personally, I think we are more ready to brutalise men than women generally, and that is the problem with sentencing. For example, the situation where a woman, in middle of a psychotic period, commits a murder (perhaps of a child, partner or family member). Authorities take seriously that her mental health was poor and are forgiving. In the same instance, a man will be locked up with no key, although it's very likely that he is also a "single act" criminal who is not a long-term danger, dependin…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 03:38 AM
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Again, these are firstly, just generalisations that nobody can confirm, and secondly, aren't MHR issues. Everyone has a right to date who they want. If someone feels they're the "sensitive male" and finding it hard to get dates, they have to work that out - it's not a human rights issue.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 03:29 AM
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Personally I think this "feminists date assholes" argument is done to death and unproductive. People have the right to date who they want. Who people choose to date is not a male human rights issue.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 03:23 AM
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Well, you're correct, my beliefs are guided by my experience. I'm a moderate person myself. I'm not a narcissistic "neckbeard", a deadbeat batterer dad, or any of the other things feminists caricature people who come here as. I'm a normal guy with a career, who had a great education and many great relationships with women, currently married and happy. However I believe there are massive inconsistencies in gender politics, and I try to discuss my areas of interest online. My comments are systemat…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:18 AM
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I think your reply is a product of the Patriarchy. /s
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:02 AM
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I would agree with you, if it weren't that feminists such as yourself constitute probably less than 5% (if that) of the feminist demographic. It literally takes a post like the one I wrote above, in the only corner of the internet where male human rights gets discussed in depth, for a feminist to concede even slightly, as you just did, that there are some important problems under discussion. The other 95% are at best, uninterested, and at worst, aggressively opposed to male human rights issues g…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 01:54 AM
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I'm not so sure. Superficially, it might seem that way, but it's likely that many of them start weakening over time as they see the sense in many of the issues. But I agree that the worst of the trolls are just psychotic subhumans.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 01:26 AM
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I think the solution for modern men is Oculus Rift. I think in several years men will be able to forgo all these risks and problems by forgoing sex with women altogether. I remember my university days as a lot of fun, men and women both having sex as they wanted, and it was never a problem. But the world seems to have gone another way.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 10:53 PM
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The greatest thing about Tory policies on pedophiles is their entire party and the history of their party is riddled with pedophiles, and they're still protecting them. Leon Brittan was the latest to croak it after receiving lifelong protection as a known pedophile. Even Winston Churchill is implicated in boy-abuse. It's actually hilarious when they come out with anti-pedophile legislature...
/r/MensRights24/05/15 10:46 PM
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Like I said, the KKK was a PROTESTANT supremacist movement. This is my point. Your entire reading of the history is a hodge-podge (cultural marxism, bla bla, democrat, bla bla, welfare bla), because you are looking at it through your political biases based on contemporary politics, rather than a historical reading.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 10:37 PM
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Like I said, the Democrat party at the time was not left-wing. The KKK was fundamentally a PROTESTANT supremacist movement. They would have been likely to target Catholics and other Christian sects, although their main target was blacks. You can look into the KKK's connection to similar PROTESTANT supremacist movements elsewhere, such as the Orange Order in Ireland and Scotland.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 08:54 PM
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The Democratic party of those days was not left wing. The KKK was a grassroots organisation that drew from Republican and Democrat voters who didn't believe in the emancipating of the black people, as well as others such as Irish catholics etc.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 05:51 PM
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I'm not sure about this. In the world that I live in just now, the rise of feminism has coincided with the fall of the middle class, and a general swing towards inequality, elitism and oligarchy. Feminism is not an effect or a movement that is any longer limited to the left - if you look at polls of recent elections (like for example the UK) you will find that women are voting in majorities for right wing policies and conservative governments. It is a fallacy to let feminism corner you into the …
/r/MensRights23/05/15 09:30 PM
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I appreciate and understand your response, however there is much I disagree with. they just see the world for what it is This is a poor definition of conservatism, and a general human fallacy. If the world is just what it is, you can have no politics: feminism is what it is, Islam is what it is, and you have to just leave it be. If you have a view of a way the world should be, rather than what it is, then you have politics, and don't really believe the original point. The liberals pioneered mora…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 08:47 PM
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I've removed the link and name of the source. I agree that the original source has a pretty repugnant agenda. It doesn't detract from the fact that she has been allegedly accused of a sexual assault. If she denies it, we can consider removing this post. This is a forum, not a police office or a newspaper.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 08:31 PM
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There was a screenshot of it on their report. It looks pretty real to me. It the original poster takes this down, or it gets moderated out, I'll understand why, but like I said, I can't help but feel a little satisfaction, because although I can never be certain, I have a feeling to a high probability that this is the guy, and he did something absolutely sordid and heinous worthy of much worse, and that in some countries would carry many years of jail time.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:53 PM
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They are worse than the rest, because they read this site everyday and they know what's going on. Most feminists get a distorted picture by the biased media and don't actually know that circumcision is infant mutilation or that males are flunking out of the education system wholesale. These ones on the other hand know what's going on, but they selectively pick out topics to give male human rights a bad name. It's them who are getting this site banned or marked as "18+" with their selective repor…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:17 PM
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No, I am making my own conclusions. They sent the guy a message asking if he wanted to comment. He blocked them. If someone sends me a message asking me for comment on a false rape accusation that has nothing to do with me, I don't block them, I ask them what the hell they're talking about and that they've got the wrong guy. This is a conclusion I'm reaching here. I'm new to a lot of this sordid nonsense and don't really know what the definition of "doxxing" is. All the information provided is a…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:50 PM
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It would have become clear instantaneously that this was the wrong guy if it was the wrong guy - he would have just said so. I don't live in the U.S. - this is a story about a German citizen who was studying in the U.S. and has been found innocent by the entire justice system - thus, the story is nothing but a trial by public opinion. The guilty get off scot free, because the public don't know who they are, while the victim's life is off the rails, perhaps permanently, because his public identit…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:23 PM
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It's almost what you might call "social justice" - no? Or what does social justice mean? This guy fabricated a story about another man, whose name and face are all over the worldwide press. There is clear evidence, unquestionable, that the story was fabricated. So what moral stance can there be against people at least knowing who he is? He could be ready to set-up some other dude with another fake accusation.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:01 PM
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This post on his Tumblr site is gold! What the fuck is he doing?? : http://negratude.tumblr.com/post/117565933049/p
/r/MensRights23/05/15 05:35 PM
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I understand your point, it could be seen as off topic. Another interpretation is that separating male human rights from criticism of Pinterest-feminism is close to impossible. But I wasn't aware of those other subs and can post there in future.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 05:14 PM
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My understanding is it was written on a public forum somewhere - it was written publicly. In any case, we must believe the victim. She committed assault, victims don't lie. If they are not just transparent, power-obsessed hypocrites, and mean anything of what they say, they must question this Zoe about her supposed sexual assault.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 04:58 PM
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They can play by their own rules. If someone made the accusation, then they must believe them - like you say, the must believe the victim. I'm not going to say what I believe, because I'm not playing their game. But by their own policy, they must come forth and put this Zoe in front of a tribunal for sexual assault.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 04:06 PM
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[Correction]: apologies, the author does define himself as a black man. I think the most is still as relevant or perhaps more relevant - I'm not able to edit the title down but can delete and repost.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:36 PM
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Maybe, I guess it's just linking to the article. I'm a little new to this whole sordid business
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:33 PM
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Lol ok :)
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:21 PM
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This is Patriarchy. Thinking nicer things of women is oppression. Patriarchy rapes with nice thoughts. /s
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:12 PM
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I've upvoted this because it's so absolutely clear this guy lied about the assault, it is beyond a shadow of a doubt - and it's a tiny punishment compared to what his victim has suffered. Good work.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:07 PM
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Because these people are above the law.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 01:35 PM
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Looking at your other posts, you seem to have a lot of long stories to recount. I don't want to doubt your story, but it's odd enough for me to save myself reading and replying.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 01:29 PM
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Troll
/r/MensRights23/05/15 01:03 PM
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It isn't a psychiatric thing, they know exactly what they're doing. They want to bully and coerce people into their own agendas and world-views. You're dealing with a bunch of manipulative and ambitious puritans here, not some innocent and idiotic snowflakes.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:47 PM
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Although far from recommending their model, just to prove a point, I could remind you that there are also gentlemen in the Muslim world. A man who doesn't feel threatened by women, and doesn't feel like he's in competition with them, is not necessarily a servant.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:08 PM
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I see nothing to feel bad about - they are manipulating people. They have no goodwill towards you. Trigger warnings are horseshit, despicable stuff.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 03:47 AM
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I totally get where her head is at. She wants to brand anything she doesn't like as unacceptable. They do it in Saudi Arabia big time - they have huge departments of anally obsessed religious experts scratching out women's faces, arms, feet, men's arms and legs, all kinds of things, from imported magazines and products. It's for the exact same reasons - those men find those things unacceptable, the society deems that it triggers inappropriate feelings in people, so it must be removed. It is hors…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 03:44 AM
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Ok, but did you miss the part where they actually found evidence of a rape?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 03:37 AM
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Rape Culture is a paranoid fantasy. It is in the same family as the following paranoid fantasies: New World Order conspiracy International Feminist-Marxist conspiracy International Muslim conspiracy And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/15 03:21 AM
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Mate. Even the most suspicious statistics say there is a 50/50 chance a complaint was actually a rape. Probably much higher than that - a woman is more likely to have been raped than not if she has gone to the police. It should be investigated professionally.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 03:12 AM
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I'm not saying this is legit at all. But there are some interesting graphics inside the preview showing the precepts of the Klan Women that you may find familiar.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:58 AM
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Sane humans do that shit every day. It doesn't work out if we let them all off because they went crazy for five minutes while they bludgeoned their child or what have you.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 02:30 AM
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PEW Research: Asian-Americans Lead All Others in Household Income http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/asian-americans-lead-all-others-in-household-income/
/r/MensRights23/05/15 01:23 AM
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Asian American : $68,088[1] Pacific Islands American : $ 58,859[1] White American : $ 54,857[1] (includes White Hispanics) Total Population : $ 51,914[1] Native American : $ 38,806[1] African American : $ 35,341[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
/r/MensRights23/05/15 01:22 AM
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This is something that I go back and forth with. I can understand the sentiment sometimes - the rules have changed, everything has switched, so why should men continue to play out this age old role of the gentleman? But more recently something has been telling me that maybe what men need to do is fight to properly get that back. Not as a weakling "gentleman" who gets walked all over him, a disempowered eunuch - but as someone coming from strength, willing to stand up for himself and his values, …
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:59 AM
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I got banned from r/againstMensRights after my first comment. I believe the comment was: "what do you mean by this?"
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:49 AM
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I'm sorry, what the fuck does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:47 AM
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No idea. I'm not going to look for one because I think it would melt my head.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:45 AM
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It's censorship of the most manipulative kind I can think of - it is relying on people's goodwill and desire to make you comfortable, using that to intimidate people and control what they can or can't do. Few things about these feminist wingnuts make me angrying than their trigger warnings. I would demand my money back on the spot if I had to read my Greek literature class with trigger warnings stamped on every scene (thank Christ I never took any Greek literature classes).
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:40 AM
1

Yeah I found the archive URL now but don't think I can edit it. I'll remember for next time. Can't believe I used to read HP - these people are not even living on the same planet as me.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:36 AM
2

How do I do that?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:28 AM
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Trigger warnings are a manipulative invention for bullying and intimidating other people. These students should be thrown out of their classes. I swear to God I'm so happy I'm not one of these teachers, because I would simply throw them out of my class, and if I got in trouble and lost my job, I would find another profession. There is such a thing as preserving your dignity. These bullshitting feminists are no different from the religious police in Saudi Arabia, stamping their insecure anal fixa…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:27 AM
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Can I also add, without criticising what you wrote, that there is nothing more irritating to me than when feminists use this term "ally". Do we really want to appropriate it from them?
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:56 PM
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I've read Christina's arguments about this. She argues that chivalry is a part of how males learn human morality and is something that feels very natural to men - for example if you ask most boys if they would like to be "gentlemen", their answer would be surely yes in most cases. The problem is that feminism has insisted males abandon this traditional perception of their moral roles, for something murkier and less clear related to "their feminine side". This is the part that boys basically find…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:54 PM
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Great comment and totally agree with you. I've completed two university degrees and found lectures akin to slow torture - but I love studying MOOCs online in my own time. Your ominous last comment does trouble me, because I think you're right - they will try if they can to alter this new empowering tool for male education. But you also have to wonder, is it possible for them to do that? Sometimes the thing that works just gains its own momentum. Who knows? Maybe women will continue to swarm the …
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:46 PM
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The cops sounds like dickheads who totally mishandled the case. There is evidence the woman was raped and it should have been collected and investigated properly. There are holes in the picture because they say she had mental health issues, so its hard to say what sets of behaviour everyone was witnessing and perhaps it wasn't easy to make decisions - but this woman's complaint should have been investigated. The fact that some women lie about rape is never an implication that all complainants sh…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 10:01 PM
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Doesn't it all sound familiar! I feel so sad even thinking about the plight of African American men and women in those days, and you know something? It actually pisses me off that feminism believes they are champions of African Americans. They've never done a single thing to champion African Americans except use them as pawns to bolster their own causes. The people of African descent that I know have far more in common with the things that trouble me than cuckoo land feminists, that's something …
/r/MensRights22/05/15 09:41 PM
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Many of these fields of study existed before in various other forms. It was things that the European aristocracies liked to entertain themselves with - classical literature, social anthropology, etc.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 08:26 PM
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I agree with you that it is important to know the true reasons for why things are happening, and to know as close as possible what is actually happening. For example, men are not enrolling at a lower absolute percentage - it's just that the number of women enrolling is growing much faster. However, I think there is value in throwing out the headline figures as much as possible on their own - there is a large gender gap in university enrolment and people can see the number and do what they want w…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 05:30 PM
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The get-out-of-jail clause for any heinous crime, be it violence, murder, child abuse or pedophilia: I was suffering from temporary mental illness.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 05:10 PM
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You can't just look at enrollment percentages and reasonably conclude "exclusionary segregation" True that you can't just look at enrollment percentages at one university. You can however look at enrollment percentages across the whole country, year after year, which show an increasing female majority. What is true is that the female application rate is already much higher than the male application rate (UK). What's interesting is that the drop in the male application rate fell by twice as much …
/r/MensRights22/05/15 05:03 PM
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The East Asians are educating themselves at higher rates and more successfully than the Western economies. There is nothing to make us think they won't be able to implement hi-tech automated manufacturing better than we can. Again, education is the core of it. I agree that moving education to online platforms is going to revolutionise and homogenise education - anyone with the will to learn the courses and do the work should be able to educate themselves.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 04:57 PM
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Most American Jews are white Caucasians. Judaism is a religion, not a race
/r/MensRights22/05/15 04:51 PM
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Thanks for your reply. Without detracting from your points, I think you have a one sided interpretation of the situation. Only a minority of women are getting social warrior degrees - most of them are studying subjects in medicine, education, law and so on. Thus, you see a trend of women starting to outnumber men in these professions, or at least being projected to do so. You see the trend that a majority of managers across all industries are now women. You see a trend of higher male unemploymen…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 02:50 PM
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Can you speak to someone at your work - tell them what she's like, that she is unstable and your relationship has deteriorated, and she's acting out of vendetta? Better they hear it from you than her.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 02:21 PM
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I don't know, I don't really care what it's called. I'm not offended by her stupidity - she offends herself. She's a wealthy, privately educated English woman who's had a particular brand of entitled narcissism drilled into her mind. She is about as burdened by her ethnic minority status as I am (Irish descent) - meaning, not at all. I cannot be offended by someone who is just an embarrassment to themself. What I am more interested in is drawing attention to the real problem - the fact that men …
/r/MensRights22/05/15 02:13 PM
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Personally, I think it's a barbaric practice and you should stand your ground and not have them circumcised. Perhaps you can argue with him that if you wait until they are teenagers, they can make their own choice? Personally it is something I would be firm about - he doesn't sound like he has rational reasons to do it, he is just passing on a cultural trope from his heritage, which is usually how abuse perpetuates.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 01:36 PM
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The things you describe are definitely options for now - apprenticeships etc. These are going to devalue massively in the next 20 years, as we develop technology to automate construction and other manual labour areas (in fact, almost everything people can do with their hands will likely be automated in the next decade or two). About men going straight into the digital economy - I think if anything, you are talking about a very limited set of people a la Mark Zuckerberg who achieved academic succ…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 01:28 PM
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In that case, if he has no bargaining power at all, I would try to reason with her first and let her know that he can lose his job and career. Don't know any of the details of the situation.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 12:52 PM
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Personally I think it is a huge problem. Automation is taking over - this trend is going to accelerate massively in the next 5-10 years. We are not going to have jobs in our economy for people without education and soft-skills. I predict that liberal arts degrees will become less popular, but having a degree of some kind is going to be essential. People used to have the same conversations before about basic schooling - why do kids need to finish school? They don't need to know maths to work on a…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 12:50 PM
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I don't understand - why does the restraining order affect your nursing job if she isn't a nurse?
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:50 AM
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Haven't seen season 5 yet, can we limit the spoilers please
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:32 AM
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She's a well knowing narcissist and an imbecile. I don't understand the logic of Asian American feminists taking up the race card like this with the "people of colour" tag. They are one of the wealthiest ethnic groups in America - as far as I know they're wealthier than whites.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:29 AM
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I'm a very reasonable human being. I'm not even angry at you for denying my common humanity without knowing me.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 11:24 AM
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If PUAs are supposed to be the cavemen who ruled society, there must have a lot of weak ass "betas" around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 04:33 AM
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I selected the story for a reason. The man is innocent. He was cleared of all charges. You assumed he is guilty. You aren't capable of an unbiased approach. What's more you haven't actually made any arguments, you just keep going on at me. Say something about actual case, find some evidence or something interesting about it or please don't keep going on at me.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 04:26 AM
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Well, you did comment on it, you said he is probably guilty. You are biased.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 03:59 AM
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Tell me something honestly. I just found this article online about a rape that is being investigated. http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/South-Devon-man-denies-raping-child/story-26026698-detail/story.html What do you think? Is he guilty or innocent?
/r/MensRights22/05/15 03:36 AM
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I'm presuming that the accuser is innocent of defamation Are you actually insane? Do you know the difference between charging someone with a crime and being charged with a crime?
/r/MensRights22/05/15 03:24 AM
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This is the best way I've heard this explained. Not a fucker of women, but a leader of men - so true. There's something so bizarre about the PUAs obsession with how to be an alpha male. There's nothing innate in the character of "alpha males", it's all circumstantial: in nature, usually the circumstance is the strongest becomes the leader - in human societies, a half-autistic dork like Larry Page can become a world-wide alpha male if they're smart and lucky enough. PUAs recognise that developing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 03:07 AM
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No - she preferred spending her time carrying her mattress around and trying to get the man she accused expelled from university - much more fun than going through the justice system and getting all the holes in your story tossed back at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 02:59 AM
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We may not be able to prove anything, but we do have a trail of contradictory and false statements from Sulkowicz which give us little reason to trust her accusation. She has claimed numerous things that we now know were lies. She initially claimed she had never had sex with Nungesser before the attack, which turned out to be a lie. She initially claimed that the police had turned her away, which turned out to be a lie - she refused to cooperate with the police in investigating her charges. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 02:55 AM
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I've had this conversation before. Basically, the idea that a rape victim can act irrationally after a rape by "playing along", although true in some circumstances, is being used to dismiss all circumstantial evidence based on behaviour histories. By doing so it gets stretched extremely thin. Someone will play along if someone they know has abused them, but their discomfort is almost always evident in hindsight. If my wife slaps me around the face regularly, I may not call the police, and I may …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 02:53 AM
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I'm not going to keep going with this because your arguments are not thought provoking at all, you aren't saying anything about the case that is interesting or novel or would make someone reconsider. There is another poster above who disagrees with me, but had interesting things to say about this, and I was happy to have a discussion with him/her. But you don't seem to know what you're talking about - for example, by going on about the "burden of proof" of innocence, which is actually nonsense, …
/r/MensRights22/05/15 02:03 AM
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I study in the UK, and I didn't have to take a rape class so I could register for my courses.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 12:37 AM
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If I was American, I would vote with my feet and study somewhere else, in Europe perhaps. Cheaper and less insane. I personally think it will be a god-given blessing when online education becomes accepted and men can get their degrees independently and avoid all this bullshit.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 12:30 AM
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note that they haven't found any evidence of false accusations yet The defence has requested to change their indictment since the release of the social media accounts, because some of the dates in their indictment of Kost, reported by the girls, don't align with anything found in the social media accounts. This is quite hard evidence of false accusations - but if the defence is allowed to change their indictment to match the social media records, I suppose they can be converted back into true ac…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 12:22 AM
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This is not true - the MHR movement calls attention to cases where a rape accusation turns out to be false with some certainty. You will not see cases discussed here where it is evident that rape occurred. People who post here believe that rapists should be punished for their terrible crimes. They also however find false accusations of rape both frightening and problematic - because if there is willingness to falsely accuse, it is increasingly easy to do so with no consequences - in part because…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 12:01 AM
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Your point? I hope this is rhetorical. My point was relevant and explained clearly. Let me try again. The idea that a traumatised victim can act irrationally is being used again and again to pass completely illogical conclusions. If someone is acting along to cover over trauma or deny an experience, it is almost always evident in hindsight, because of their obvious discomfort. Not so in the case. Your circumstantial evidence is ill thought out and should not be used as a means of determining gui…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 11:44 PM
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I know. Seriously, I need to stop reading about things like this because they leave me totally hopeless. It makes me feel that there are people out there who I have no common humanity with - they seem to living on a different planet from me.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 11:22 PM
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This is hilarious. Frankenstein has turned on the doctor. No one is safe - the entire teaching staff of Colombia should start worrying, lest Emma's memory suddenly clears up to reveal a terrible gang-rape on her by the performance art faculty lectures and the university dean.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 11:11 PM
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This does not prove anything. Again, what she said afterwards does not mean that she meant it sincerely, nor does it mean that she did not do it out of fear I explained already to a commenter above that the oft-repeated trope that an irrational or traumatised person may act unusually after a rape, is being called on to discredit all circumstantial evidence based on behaviour. Yes, a person may "play along" after they are traumatised by a rape - however, they do so in serious discomfort, and that…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 10:42 PM
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White feminists who encourage white people to "shut the fuck up" are usually the loudest in the room. They just think they're allowed to shout because they're rooting for the little guy. I am a huge supported of ethnic minorities in my politics - it is central to how I view the world that we help to empower the unempowered. But bourgois white liberals like this idiot are not the ones who are going to tell me what to do or when I should shut up. Half of them don't even associate with people from …
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:39 PM
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I think that's absolute nonsense. It is racially aggrivated fabrication similar to the KKK's use of rape to pursue blacks in U.S. history. This is pure bunkum. This kind of talk has no place in the men's rights movement - jesus, I don't know how else to tell people this. Do you want to get crucified as a bunch of far-right loonies? Seriously.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:05 PM
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I think you are denying something quite obvious because you have a compulsion to believe the girls, or distrust the boy, first. One of the girls who said she was raped, tweeted endlessly about the boy in a positive tone after the supposed attack. This explains to me that she fabricated her story. She was one of the girls conspiring on the Facebook group, typing some of the messages I quoted. Is what they are discussing linked somehow to the joint-charges of rape they pressed? I don't know, but i…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:04 PM
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This is heart-breaking and disgraceful. What is this world coming to. I am generally an optimist, but this kind of thing makes me lose all faith in human beings.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 09:00 PM
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Jesus. Well one thing's for sure - lads better be recording every time they get down with a lady. This boy was lucky - he would have gone straight to jail without that proof.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 08:26 PM
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This is how men get jobs in journalism - one of the requirements in papers like The Independent is that they have a history of joining feminist groups and so on. Guys like this have basically made a Machiavellian choice of allying themselves to feminism so they can get work in progressive newspapers. They have probably also made a more fundamental choice of allying themselves with feminists, because they think they're going to win the long war, and as historical allies will be rewarded for their…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 08:09 PM
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Ok. It's also possible that if messages are found on my phone saying that I burgled your house, it's not necessarily certain that I burgled your house.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 07:16 PM
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I don't know what happened in your P.E. class, it's really not of any interest to me because it isn't related to what is happening with this case. None of the things you described are evidence that someone would rape a girl. I have no doubt in my mind about the fact that he raped someone I believe this is part of the problem: many people seem to have "no doubt in their mind" that he would rape someone because they don't like him - while it turns out these girls have been leveraging that by appar…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 02:13 PM
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Another thing that happened here recently - prosecutors asked to completely change their indictment since the social media accounts were released. "Now prosecutors claim their timeline was wrong from the beginning, and that one girl listed in the chat told detectives last year she was abused before it ever took place." http://www.trivalleycentral.com/san_tan_valley_sentinel/local_news/prosecutors-seek-to-change-kost-indictment/article_49c608b4-ed3c-11e4-ac9a-0b8386b8a8b4.html
/r/MensRights21/05/15 01:43 PM
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If evidence emerges suggesting that even half of them were in a plot and making false accusations, then yes, I am going to extrapolate and say they were all doing the same.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 01:28 PM
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Being strange, "creepy", charismatic or flirty is not evidence of a crime.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 01:19 PM
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I don't have time for a thorough reply now (I will reply when I can) but I would point out quickly that the first described rape in your second article is exactly that girl who spent a month updating her status with messages of love - "Tyler is the best boyfriend", "I'm so in love with him", etc. It's true that she later found out she was pregnant and had to have an abortion (this corresponds to the story of a girl having been "driven" from the state in desperation - my understanding is she lite…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:53 AM
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I wrote a reply to someone above with some of their messages redacted, here is a sample: "we should fuck with his mind and his car", "X is going to beat him up, "X is going to turn over his van", "this is going to be so much fun <3", "he's so disgusting I would puke in his mouth", "one of us should date him and then break his heart like in --- (movie)" - followed by "yeah X is already on that" - followed by "yeah I'm so on it, I've got him wrapped around my finger" (this last part being quite in…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 03:32 AM
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maybe she wasn't raped She was one of the alleged rape victims. To be frank with you, I don't quite buy the oft repeated trope that somebody can be traumatised by a rape, whilst all their communications show them to be head over heels over their rapist (re: Julian Assange?). Yes, people can "play along" after a rape, but they do so in serious discomfort, and that discomfort is usually evident in hindsight. What is very implausible is that someone's communications are completely and inexplicably …
/r/MensRights20/05/15 03:27 AM
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This is quite an idiotic way to look at it, if I may say so without meaning any offence. Being insulting and foul-mouthed does not impress anyone - it plays into the hands of all your detractors, and that is true whatever your cause is. Being sensible and intelligent in your discourse, on the other hand, frightens and puts your opponent in a much harder situation, because your discourse appeals to an outside listener. Thinking that you are going to do anything but make people laugh at you by swe…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 01:33 AM
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Excuse me, what? Your comment doesn't make sense at all. I'm almost tempted to think you're a femtroll looking for bait. I'm sorry but this comment is completely out of line apart from making no sense. If girls or women were raped their rapist must face the law - but if they plotted against an innocent man they themselves must face the law.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 10:19 PM
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Feminism, in general, can get away with anything - this is for various reasons, but not least because it is the status quo. For exactly the reasons you mention, this movement isn't in the same position as feminism to say anything it wants. It needs to carefully frame its rhetoric to bring people on the outside in - believe me, it makes a difference when people read something reasoned and inclusive. Martin Luther King was at his very best when he said that the poor white man was being turned agai…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 10:15 PM
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You have to be sensible and use your own judgement - I am completely, positively sure that things like "spoilt little cunts" and "little bitches" are the kinds of quotes femtrolls (a.k.a. journalists) selectively grab to heap public opinion against MHR people. It is senseless using that kind of language. I really appreciate that anathema posted that apology not because I'm particularly offended by the language (it's not the smartest language to use, but women equally call men they are upset with…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 09:22 PM
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keep in mind that these quotes would still make perfect sense if some of them were actually raped. wanting revenge doesn't mean they weren't sexually abused Correct, but would they have chosen John Tucker Must Die as their template? That film is about a guy who dates a bunch of girls at the same time, not about a rapist. Why were they saying they would copycat that film, if they were dealing with an aggressive rapist? Why did one of the girls, who is part of this plot, post incessantly about her…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 09:05 PM
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I'm not sure if it backfires - the mainstream media treat the movement with total contempt and ridicule, often by selectively quoting aggressive and misogynistic comments out of context. If the discussion is generally sensible and level-headed, then they will think twice about that when they read a discussion like this. To be honest, these 13 girls, as terrible as what they've done is, aren't themselves actually the problem - the problem is a culture where they've been indoctrinated to believe t…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 08:48 PM
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My hope would be that they will face the law for conspiring to use the law against an individual for personal aim, and consequently causing great harm to him.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 08:22 PM
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You will be surprised - some will try to portray it that way, but if there is a culture within MHR sympathisers to make sure to use carefully chosen language and refuse to use aggressive and misogynist language (seen as the truth is that the movement is fundamentally non-violent and gender-egalitarian), then it is much more likely to be perceived that way, and much harder for people who want to portray it otherwise at managing to do that.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 08:06 PM
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Some as I said below: Although I sympathise with the anger, can I suggest that we keep aggressive and threatening language out of discussions of this nature? The way that people have been discrediting the MHR movement is by taking quotes like this out of context and making the movement appear misogynistic and violent. I'm not slagging your comment and haven't down-voted, but there's a need to make sure the MHR movement doesn't give its detractors any easy shots, which they're always on the looko…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 08:00 PM
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Although I sympathise with the anger, can I suggest that we keep aggressive and threatening language out of discussions of this nature? The way that people have been discrediting the MHR movement is by taking quotes like this out of context and making the movement appear misogynistic and violent. I'm not slagging your comment and haven't down-voted, but there's a need to make sure the MHR movement doesn't give its detractors any easy shots, which they're always on the lookout for. Just let them …
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:58 PM
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Can I suggest that one of the most overlooked problems with school-grade education is the fact that boys generally thrive more in competitive tasks, but that competition has been weeded out of education in most developed countries, and competitive boys are usually labelled trouble makers. I've previously linked a Stanford research paper that shows this.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:42 PM
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I think people on here are starting to miss the point by some way. This discussion doesn't belong here at all - it belongs somewhere in the guns'n'whisky subreddits. Whether or not you agree with gun control, this is not the place for a gun control discussion - just as its not the place for PUA or red pill discussions. Thanks
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:38 PM
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You're linking to gun-industry propaganda which tries to argue for re-instituting gun-ownership in Britain. They are never going to succeed because the British public would demonstrate en masse against it, quite sensibly. We have one of the lowest murder rates in the world in the UK.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:34 PM
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Rather than laughing at a valid invocation of Occam's razor, why don't you provide evidence for the startling things you're claiming.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:16 PM
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Precisely - I don't think this belongs here at all. I think the presence of this discussion in this forum can only hurt by giving ammo to detractors.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 07:14 PM
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The majority of those murders in the U.S. are from gunshot wounds. Surely by the principle of Occam's razor, I don't really need anything further. Like I say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Confirmation bias could equally be lobbied at all the research that tries to show that gun murders do not increase with gun availability being sponsored by pro-gun lobbies and companies. This is also called propaganda and conflict of interests.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:21 PM
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What evidence do you have that gun availability doesn't affect the murder rate? You realise it's an absolutely extraordinary claim - it's a little like trying to show that cars don't affect the time it takes people to get places. Firearms are designed to kill people with - making it easier to kill people must surely increase the number of people who are killed. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 06:02 PM
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What evidence would that be? I don't have to look hard to find evidence to the contrary. Simply looking at the murder rate by country on Wikipedia, I see that the U.S. has a higher murder rate than any other developed economy. It is currently sandwiched between Niger and Latvia. Countries with a lower murder rate than the U.S. include: India, Iran, Egypt, Liberia, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh - all poor countries with strict gun control. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:51 PM
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Short of reading the study, I still am a believer that men can only gain by taking some of the responsibility of family over to their side (I mean, it can only be a beautiful thing for men to get a chance to be closer to their children - to, for example, be able to tell their kid stories of when they were on paternity leave and spending every day with them). The point is it needs to be made to work - we need securities in place for men to be able to successfully take part in their family. For no…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:31 PM
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My personal thoughts: The gun industries is a predator on men in the U.S.: it takes male lives, it lands men in jail, and more subtly, it gives men a false sense of autonomy and independence in their lives where they actually have none. This kind of thing being linked to the MHR movement is not going to help one bit: it is regressive and has too many associations that will immediately give ammunition to those who wish to criticise and shut down the MHR movement as violent, regressive and chauvin…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:25 PM
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I would like to call attention to the inherent contradiction someone with MRA sympathies faces if he supports someone like Bill O'Reilly. I don't know what his family situation, but in that very same video, he is criticising Obama's call for understanding towards the plight of African American men. Now let me repeat that with emphasis - African American "men". They are the ones being thrown in jail at a rate of close to 10%. They are the ones who don't even make the papers when they are beaten t…
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:19 PM
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Rachel Feltman has a chip on her shoulder as someone who didn't study science and will never really be a part of it. This is quite a problem in general - "science reporting" graduates, too thick for science itself, are the ones handling all the communication - not a set-up that is really going to help science, in my mind.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 04:40 PM
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She looks pretty white to me. She probably went to Harrows.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 04:35 PM
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This is outrageous. Women must keep the right to create a famous sexual scandal if they end up falling out with their boss. This kind of policy makes it impossible for women to accuse them of sexual misconduct! Humph.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 04:29 PM
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I don't know about everyone else, but I've met one or two guys raised by neurotic, narcissistic or dominating feminists. They have a tendency to turn out people who are terrified of both men and women, badly equipped for adult life - and one guy I'm thinking of specifically is a prime MRA candidate, although I've never asked him if he follows stuff like this. That guy has ended up desperately seeking love from Asian women because he's been raised to think of interaction with his female peers as …
/r/MensRights18/05/15 07:10 PM
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<Officer: “We do get people making up allegations because they want to get their own back, for whatever reason. If A and B are courting and A has an affair with C, sometimes B will say that A has raped her … It’s not massively common but it isn’t uncommon either.” So matter of factly. Why is it so hard to understand that people make-up stories to f*ck other people over? If calling rape a huge issue doesn't mean calling all men rapists, calling false-accusations an issue doesn't mean calling all …
/r/MensRights17/05/15 10:52 PM
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Of course. I wasn't into team sport competitions, but I loved competing on individual performers. The point is that the current system is ideologically structured against competition - competitive people are labelled trouble-makers. I'd be very interesting in reading ideas about education environments that allowed both competitive and set-task students to motivate according to their natural inclination.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 10:12 PM
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The Telegraph is a troll orgy. I appreciate that the Guardian deletes comments, and it is extremely frustrating, but I prefer to try to get my comments past the heavy moderation, because that's where people need to hear it. No point preaching to the converted.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 06:18 PM
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The majority of young journalists are women, and the majority of university graduates are women, hence the majority of both contributors and readers of the mainstream middle-class media are either female, or are males who get in there by having views that are aligned with feminism.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 03:29 PM
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Can I suggest someone ban this person? Appears to be a troll who would like to link MHRs to anti-semitism.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 03:27 PM
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sounds like someone is trying to filter men's rights through the lens of social justice I don't really know what social justice is. I would like people from poor communities to get a better chance at success. I believe the natural hierarchies humans cling to make it very difficult in some cultures for outsiders to get the same chances, and the society needs to make a decision to let them in and give them that chance. I've repeated this a number of times on this thread and haven't really gotten a…
/r/MensRights17/05/15 04:50 AM
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Agreed, but maybe there wasn't so much a need for this in the 1970s and 80s? After all, it's only recently that women have started outstripping men in educational achievement and salaries (as a UK citizen, women in my generation now earn more than men on average). There is someone who regularly posts comments on anti-MRA blogs and articles, and is very good at it - I think it's usually the same person, judging by the style - and his comments are always extremely considered and patient. They are …
/r/MensRights16/05/15 11:54 PM
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That was a very good comment and I agree with a lot of it. Some will be racist If some will be racist, enough that there is an element of fringe racism in the online literature, it automatically creates a huge set of contradictions. Like I said in a previous comment, some of the issues MRAs are loudest about affect men and boys from minorities the most. I don't think anyone could disagree if I said that this movement has a lot of great arguments, but is in need of some PR. Who could possibly be …
/r/MensRights16/05/15 01:45 PM
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It's not a popularity contest The problem is, societies are popularity contests. People are extremely good at avoiding truths and pretending things are one way when they're the other, it is built into our anatomy. In my opinion, a men's human rights movement will have to win public support. In theory, there is a point at which society has to face up to truths - for example, if the proportion of males who don't complete their education continues to rise, there is a point at which society dysfunct…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 01:27 AM
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If you read this sub often enough there's a post like yours every two weeks or so. "I understand men have issues, and I understand the facts, but stop being angry -- it's so scarrrrry" Your response genuinely perplexes me. Firstly, I'm a fucking man. I have no idea what other people write about, but believe me, the last thing these issues inspire in me is fear. I don't know who was talking about anger - the post I wrote was enquiring about people's perspectives on an inclusive and self-defined m…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 01:04 AM
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I don't know if you're trying to troll me but I'm not trolling anyone. If you have such deep suspicion of people with even moderately different, although generally sympathetic, views, then maybe it should concern you why that is.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 12:50 AM
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Cool, in that case we don't have to converse, please speak to someone you can take seriously.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 12:26 AM
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People seem to be misunderstanding why I posted this, and unfortunately misinterpreting it as some drive of mine to cause argument. I'm writing from a totally sympathetic point of view, and have spent time wondering what a successful men's human rights movement would look like (that is, one that managed to really improve the standards of living of males). Do I think poorer males need a louder voice? Speaking purely from political self-interest, the movement would be very smart to give them a lou…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 12:11 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't even know what a concern troll is. I only know who this Infowars guy is (Paul Joseph Watson) because I've seen his videos posted on this site.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 11:58 PM
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though I do feel that you are coming at this from a Feminist perspective 100% no. I have been shouted down by feminists everywhere. They ban my comments uniformly on the Guardian in this area of conversation. My conversations with feminists quickly devolve into arguments. I'm not saying that a good thing, but I am most definitely not coming from a feminist perspective. However, I would say I am economically left-wing - in particular I am inclined to favour people who are poorer and less empowere…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 11:52 PM
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Of course it's a fight - everything political is a fight. But every battle has tactics. How do you define your tactics so that your chances of success increase? Feminism has found its strategy, and seeing how it's developed for the last 40 years, you have to credit that it's worked for them. But copycating their tactics will never work for a men's human rights movement. People see men from minorities being imprisoned en masse and society failing them, but they simply don't make the connection wi…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 10:30 PM
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Correct, they don't see the need to reach out to MRAs, for many of the same reasons that many women don't reach out to feminism. To be honest, gendered politics doesn't sit easy with most people, I can't say that it sits easy with me necessarily, although there seems to be no other way to address many of the problems we have in human societies worldwide. Your second point - I do not really see any particular drive to give men from minorities and poorer backgrounds a voice in this movement. I cou…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 10:29 PM
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