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Wait, land-owning US women could vote prior to universal suffrage? Would you mind hitting me with a source? That would change everything. Thanks!
/r/MensRights13/08/18 06:11 PM
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True. Fucking crazy, man. "But where have all the good men gonneeee???" Dude, I just started mobile dating for the first time. It's stunning how many chicks are like: "Height (must be over 5'10)? Income?" I'm 6'3, so I guess I luck out, but wow. Fucking sad.
/r/MensRights10/08/18 11:33 PM
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Much toxic masculinity. So misogyny. Glass ceiling and patriarchy. Where equal representation. Wow.
/r/MensRights10/08/18 11:05 PM
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Welp, that's the final nail in the coffin, guys in high school and college. Only safe way to fuck is in front of a magistrate after signing informed consent xD
/r/MensRights10/08/18 11:01 PM
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Agree 100%. Aside from the "Winner of custody" stat, though,...these disproportions don't really seem like things that a reasonable person would find questionable. I suppose I'm biased, but observations like "the overwhelming majority of workplace fatalities/workers in high-fatality fields are male" are about as airtight as simplistic claims come. And I have never heard wage-gap feminists come up with a response to them, other than juvenile/ironic snarks along the lines of, "well, boys are dumbe…
/r/MensRights04/08/18 08:51 PM
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Also, spinach in pancakes is a crime against humanity xD
/r/MensRights04/08/18 11:12 AM
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Afraid not; just commenting on the original idea that using pink/red for men is a clever way to dupe ideologues into looking at data contrary to their previously-held beliefs xD
/r/MensRights04/08/18 11:11 AM
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*the supply of jobs is constantly shrinking.
/r/MensRights04/08/18 09:43 AM
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That's a great point. My initial thought was, "maybe a blue- (male) pink (female) color code would be more effective, to align with what people are used to," but I like your sneakiness :)
/r/MensRights04/08/18 09:41 AM
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My situation was entirely contained within my employer, so no court. I retained a criminal defense lawyer; while not at all required (or allowed to actually do anything direct vis a vis the investigation), it was absolutely the right decision. Thankfully, the text recovery was not an issue in my case; I was just stunned by the realization that deleted messages are super hard to retrieve (i.e., you need permission from all parties, or a subpoena). I have AT&T, for reference. I did find some third…
/r/MensRights04/08/18 12:17 AM
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I don't have any frame of reference for this organization, but that article just makes me wonder even more how such a demonstrably hazardous routine medical procedure isn't making headlines in some major medical journal, somewhere. Like, I get the US, because it is seems to be so normalized that people don't even realize it's not natural, but why aren't physicians in the EU smashing people over the head with these findings?
/r/MensRights03/08/18 01:22 AM
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Is anyone aware of any peer-reviewed studies/journal articles pertaining to this?
/r/MensRights02/08/18 08:29 PM
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This post's title claims that the boys were burned in the same attack that they abducted the schoolgirls. That is false. It doesn't detract from the double standard of outrage, but it is important to be accurate and truthful when making claims.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 08:04 PM
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To be fair, it wasn't the same attack as the one where the girls were abducted; this slaughter preceded that. But yes, when I saw that section of the Red Pill doc with Karen Straughan...that may have been the point of no return for me becoming a MRA.
/r/MensRights02/08/18 04:21 PM
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Holy shit. FUCK that guy. Predatory scumbag.
/r/MensRights08/07/18 10:03 PM
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It was worth it, for sure. Between his employment of a private investigator to scout witnesses, his guidance on how to best lay out my account of what happened, and just general re-assurance and feedback, it was absolutely beneficial. Maybe I could've swung it without one, but then again, maybe I could have unwittingly sabotaged my case by saying the wrong thing. Not to mention, when I retained counsel, my ultimate fear was that this gets escalated to a criminal charge; better safe than sorry wa…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 01:00 PM
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Thank you, friend. There had been a silence from my employer for nearly three weeks until notification of their decision yesterday; not a fun way to spend the summer. You're 100% right about being more guarded in the future. This woman just...it felt so right just to be with her. Not even so much sexual as just seeing her smile, hearing her laugh. I've been in a transition period and was avoiding relationships, and feeling the way I did around her was just so nice. Sadly, play with fire and you …
/r/MensRights04/07/18 09:21 AM
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Exactly. I don't have any evidence to the contrary (i.e., no communication displaying consent), so taking this to court just seems like a mess. One that might prompt her to start a criminal case just out of spite. I'm just trying to move on from this, last thing I need is a public escalation, you know?
/r/MensRights04/07/18 08:32 AM
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Honestly, there's not any blatant flirtatious evidence via text; all six incidents were spur of the moment stuff with her coming on to me. If anything, my efforts to reach out to her after the incident would probably be the most damning, since I made mistake numero uno of apologizing. And she hasn't made any communication to me since the incident. In addition, she's gone from the company and my area, for good. My fear is that bringing a suit against her could spark her bringing a criminal suit a…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 08:30 AM
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I certainly agree that knowing when/how to be assertive is a crucial life skill, especially when it come to work. I think it depends on your work environment (my current female-dominated lala-land one would not work for intimidating; even speaking up ruffles feathers -__-), but velvet glove over a mailed fist is my favorite analogy: build up leverage and casually signal that you have it/are prepared to use it, but generally try to use carrots unless a stick is warranted. Again, I agree that real…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 08:21 AM
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The fucked up part? This didn't happen at work. It happened with a coworker at a house party. Maybe that falls under "at work," because we worked together, but just wanted to warn guys that as long as you work for the same employer, a woman can use the employer as a substitute for the actual courts in fucking you up.
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:55 AM
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Thanks man. The hardest thing for me to accept, the thing that honestly almost broke me, was that I loved this girl. Not in a life partner way, but just deep affection and caring for her well-being and happiness. And she knew that. As soon as I recognized something was off during the night in question, I made it clear that I wanted to know if she was okay, that I cared, that I wanted to talk. And that I was sorry. Even though I didn't understand exactly what was wrong, I knew that it had to do w…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:52 AM
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It's unfortunate. I appreciate that the Red Pill sees the world as it is, at it's most base level, in order to both defend oneself and manipulate it to your advantage...but it just makes me feel so incredibly hollow. Can I spend my life constantly playing the "game?" Always on guard, always hustling, always looking for advantage. And for what? To have the highest sex appeal, the biggest swinging dick on the floor? Get mine, and fuck everybody else? What I really want is to feel like I live in a …
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:44 AM
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Forgive my copy+paste, but it seems appropriate: I don't know shit about what constitutes defamation, but in this situation, there was an actual sexual encounter; the dispute is that she alleges it was non-consensual due to her being too intoxicated to consent, while I state that she had initiated intimate behavior throughout the preceding hours and demonstrated clear conversational, motor, and situational awareness before and during the encounter, and that this was the sixth intimate encounter …
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:35 AM
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I don't know shit about what constitutes defamation, but in this situation, there was an actual sexual encounter; the dispute is that she alleges it was non-consensual due to to her being too intoxicated to consent, while I state that she had initiated intimate behavior throughout the preceding hours and demonstrated clear conversational, motor, and situational awareness before and during the encounter, and that this was the sixth intimate encounter we had. Does that sound like grounds for a def…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:34 AM
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Holy shit, preach. I'm soft-hearted by temperament, and if I had an uncomfortable situation with a partner I really cared about (like this woman), my instinct would be to signal that I want to talk/accept responsibility. Yeah, FUCK THAT. Just goes to show the merit of that old cynical cliche about the first thing they teach at law school: "Never admit ANYTHING." Sucks, because it basically forces people (esp men in this MeToo age) to be suspicious and cold-hearted, but you gotta play the game by…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:27 AM
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Hell yeah. Lesson learned (largely to never be alone in the same room as a female coworker, sadly :( ), and I'm not giving the past 6 weeks another second of my energy. Sad part, from a high-level perspective, if that these self-righteous coworkers who are treating me like a monster now are just ensuring that I can never, regardless of how much I may otherwise want to, be on their side, politically. Being on the wrong side of the mob justice mentality has ensured that I will never support a poli…
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:22 AM
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The whole thing was...disorienting to say the least. It messed me up on a lot of levels, but the feeling that she used the employer as the lever of minimal cost to her (she just had to spend 30 minutes giving her account, then got to leave as planned and has been vacationing abroad since -__-) and maximum damage to me (regardless of official ruling, my office now sees me as a predator, legal fees killed me, and now my reputation within the company at large is possibly open to rumor smearing, if …
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:12 AM
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Would you mind ELI5? I Googled it, seems like it would have to do with penalizing her if she tries to defame me? Regardless, she doesn't work at my job anymore (started the investigation process with 9 days before her last day...just to hurt me -__-), so I'm not sure how I could even know if she defames me. Not to mention that this whole thing was internal to the company; dunno how a formal legal action would apply. But thanks :)
/r/MensRights04/07/18 07:05 AM
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"Promote that man!"
/r/MensRights04/07/18 03:25 AM
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OH SHIT, even better xD : https://i.pinimg.com/736x/70/af/ca/70afca65c67d8f4cb3a10d41a0754384--conscience-is-the-best.jpg
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:37 AM
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https://www.mywalkgear.com/What-A-Cancer-Survivor-Looks-Like-T-Shirt-35876X.aspx ? What color ribbon is for Men's Rights, or false accusations? xD
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:35 AM
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Or maybe one that just says: "Survivor." Let them chew that cud for a while.
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:26 AM
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Oh for sure. Good news is I've been looking to get out of this job anyway, so it's not a big deal. But I'll go when I'm good and ready. I had thought these people were friends, but after the deafening silence and coldness I've felt since being accused, I'm just going to be the most professional and hard-working motherfucker they can imagine. Passive-aggression will be met with smiles, like water rolling off a duck's back. Ain't nobody got time for that :)
/r/MensRights04/07/18 02:25 AM
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Why not just keep the front text? It's all-encompassing and more powerful.
/r/MensRights21/06/18 02:49 AM
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It's a shitty situation, but you learn what you can. I do my best to not give it any of my energy; it took a lot of time and despair to build up that callus, but you just have to keep going. And that's really my feeling for what the MRA community has to do, if we actually care about improving things; as you say, we cannot give in to the temptation to treat this as a zero-sum game. Helping women in the face of legitimate obstacles helps men, and the inverse holds true for women helping men. Rathe…
/r/MensRights20/06/18 09:05 PM
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While I do believe that the feminist movement's decision to vilify men/masculinity and refuse to countenance the inclusion of men's issues in discussions about traditional gender role is a significant barrier to men's rights (and to overall improvement in gender relations), I certainly agree that MRA's adopting a similarly pig-headed outlook is nothing but counterproductive. I recently came to this sub after because falsely accused of sexual assault; it was incredibly therapeutic to be able to e…
/r/MensRights20/06/18 08:55 PM
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And this advances men's rights...how?
/r/MensRights20/06/18 07:23 PM
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Afraid I don't feel like I totally understand your primary point in the first paragraph; would it be correct to paraphrase that you consider some MRA's to also be guilty of the sort of cognitive dissonance/selective attention that Cassie is warning against? I agree about men's rights also having a "dark side." As you say, any activist movement will attract fringes, and here it is likely compounded by bitterness from traumatic personal life experiences (false rape accusations, divorce, loss of cu…
/r/MensRights20/06/18 07:11 PM
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I think the value in Cassie's talk is that it asks us to reflect on assumptions about the male experience that most people just take for granted (and thus perpetuate). It seems as though many men don't even consider the possibility that some of the burdens they face are unnecessary. Male culture has traditionally placed high value on "sucking it up," and just accepting difficulties without seeking help (the apparent product of men's relative reproductive disposability/our crucial contribution to…
/r/MensRights20/06/18 06:31 PM
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Your comparison with hypocritical Christians is spot-on, I think: just as some sects vilify certain other groups, and can't even imagine the possibility that they might be at least partially incorrect, modern feminist culture dismisses men's rights out of hand. Another analogy is how die-hard Communists vilify every aspect of capitalism. As to second paragraph, I agree that the issues facing men are the product of broad social and historical trends. Cassie's focus, I think, is just to focus on h…
/r/MensRights20/06/18 06:22 PM
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I thought this sub is supposed to be about improving the situtation for men in society. Shallow comics vilifying women don't help men; this shouldn't be an echo chamber for "boys rule, girls drool."
/r/MensRights20/06/18 04:36 PM
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Congratulations, you are now a moderator of r/menkampf/ xD
/r/MensRights20/06/18 03:40 AM
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But that's exactly it: adopting an underdog identity, especially in this case, means thinking you are the superior (see: Good/Righteous) group. They think they're the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars fighting the Good fight against the evil Empire.
/r/MensRights20/06/18 03:35 AM
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I think that her point about feminism having blinded her to male oppression refers to ideological "blinders" she had unknowingly placed onto herself: the prospect of men having unique and legitimate areas of concern was simply not something she was even willing to openly listen to, let alone consider. As to your second question, I view it as helping men primarily by casting light on people's preconceived notions about mens rights. By relating her own journey, she gives people in a similar situat…
/r/MensRights20/06/18 03:26 AM
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Lesson: NEVER delete messages indicating interest, initiation, regret/apology, or bitterness from a partner (or former partner).
/r/MensRights19/06/18 11:54 PM
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Just remembered this excellent point by Camille Pagila (https://youtu.be/HrscwJYO8G8?t=158). It's worth the watch, really, but her point is that even if you "re-educate" 999 out of every 1000 men, there would still be a chance that a woman can encounter a sexual predator." In other words, treat the threat of sexual violence as an ineradicable constant, and adapt your behavior accordingly.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 11:02 PM
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Yeah. Jordan Peterson was the one who first shocked me with this idea of such a backlash (https://youtu.be/iRPDGEgaATU?t=2269), and it's terrifying.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 10:50 PM
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Man stfu
/r/MensRights19/06/18 09:12 PM
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Damn! (or maybe "Verdammt!") Beat me to it xD
/r/MensRights19/06/18 07:16 PM
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Oh good, the font of wisdom that is Instagram model Emily Sears is here to save us rapists-in-waiting from ourselves.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 07:14 PM
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...wtf is this? Is this satire?
/r/MensRights19/06/18 07:11 PM
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Very good point. It seems to me that empirical, objective, replicated, and ideally peer-reviewed evidence is the best means of distinguishing between valid and invalid theories. AND the realization that the pursuit of knowledge and understanding is not a zero-sum game: it's not about winners and losers, it's about making life better than we found it.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 06:31 PM
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Hey, all you can do is try, friend. If a person isn't willing to even consider that there might be a dimension to an issue they may not be aware of, you can't really force them to open their eyes (nor should you; your energy is better spent elsewhere).
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:58 PM
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If you haven't seen it, here's a 14-minute TED Talk by the filmmaker to get a feel for what it's like (a bit more approachable than the two-hour film :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:55 PM
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Your consciousness of this area, and even more so your desire to see improvement, already puts you ahead of most women. It's easy to say, but you have 0 reason to feel like you're somehow not doing enough. As for your boyfriend, my take is that the best thing you can do is give him space to grow. It sounds like you're already on a good trajectory, so just keep supporting him and talking with him when he feels comfortable; I assure you that he will appreciate it. For a concrete thing you guys can…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:52 PM
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Until the pub shuts down due to insufficient revenue. Then they'll blame men for not frequenting it, cuz misogyny -__-
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:46 PM
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Right. It's easy to feel good about yourself if your movement/your sisters-in-arms are never potentially at fault. That way you always feel vindicated and righteous. Eerily reminiscent of religious fanatics (see: Deus vult, Dar al-Harb, Gott mit uns, etc.)
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:31 PM
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I don't think it's fair to assign blame to one sex for "causing" the apparent irrelevance of modern marriage. Marriage used to serve a mutually beneficial purpose for people. And now that men and women have the ability to transcend their traditional gender roles, it offers fewer benefits while still imposing its traditional costs. Cohabitation is potentially risky, sure, but as long as both parties acknowledge those risks, openly discuss their feelings about them, and develop robust contingencie…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:28 PM
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Exactly. This one-way vision on the part of modern feminism is keeping its adherents from seeing the problem for what it actually is: men and women are equal partners in society, not oppressors and victims. If you treat a group of people as "other," then you can easily feel that your standards of behavior toward them are somehow separate from the standards of behavior toward yourself. It seems as old as our species (see: warring troops of chimps). I just wish feminists would reflect on that more…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:20 PM
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It might be helpful for her if you ask her to apply that sort of logic to other situations. Would she be okay hating another group of people if it were socially acceptable to do so? How about committing an act she knew to be morally wrong; would she feel justified killing someone if it were socially acceptable to do so?
/r/MensRights19/06/18 05:16 PM
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The victim narrative of "only women suffer, and it's because of men" has snowballed into a business; people with influence derive their livelihood from it. So they will fight tooth and nail to keep the snowball rolling. And that is the heart of this frustration: to the folks leading the feminist movement, whether or not they achieve the changes they espouse is irrelevant, and possibly even undesirable. They just want the wheel to keep turning and putting money in their pockets; if men and women …
/r/MensRights19/06/18 04:33 PM
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Oh good, I'm sure all the young black men getting gunned down in gang disputes will be glad to know that they're not the primary targets of violence. Can't wait to tell all those veterans who got crippled by IED's that they're not the primary targets of violence, either!
/r/MensRights19/06/18 04:22 PM
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"You have done us wrong." You? Who the fuck is you? This is insanity. This is like justifying a terrorist attack because the government of the victims did wrong by the terrorists. I haven't done shit to you, lady. And yet you are chomping at the bit to hate me. Ever wonder what happens next? That maybe, just maybe, acting with hatred toward me, and men in general, might provoke a response? These people have no idea what havoc they're inviting. Their entire lives have consisted of poking people w…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 04:17 PM
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What is marriage? It's a legal contract, traditionally, in which men get access to sex in exchange for providing women with lifelong stability/resources. If a party (historically, this was assumed to be the guy) broke the contract by leaving, he'd get punished by the state. Such a system made sense in the pre-modern era, when life was actually awful (see: "then an outbreak of smallpox wiped out 40% of the population"). But why the fuck would anyone, especially a man, desire marriage now, other t…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 03:20 PM
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The demonstrated aversion to high-level maths by women is staggering; you have to drop down 20 rows (out of 29 total) to hit a degree field that is unequivocally demanding of mathematical ability, i.e., well into the dark realm of male-dominated fields. Considering how hard (see: math-based) skills are becoming ever-more essential to starting a financially stable career (especially in the indoor, white-collar fields the feminists seem to only want to talk about), this doesn't seem to imply that …
/r/MensRights19/06/18 03:09 PM
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"LOL, what a wuss: a man getting breast cancer! That's just karma for the Patriarchy, so no research for you." meanwhile, at the NFL "If you all-male super-athletes don't dress up in pink every other game, you're misogynists!"
/r/MensRights19/06/18 03:00 PM
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Another simple test is to just replace "men" with "women" (or some other group), in a given case of suspected anti-male discrimination: -[Women] are more likely to be killed on the job -[Women] are more likely to be homeless -[Women] are more likely to commit suicide -[Women] are more likely to lose custody of their children -[Women] receive harsher sentences for the same crimes -[Women] have significantly shorter life expectancy -[Women] must be taught that rape is bad Can you imagine any of th…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 02:51 PM
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Punishing half of your potential customer base for having been born with Y chromosomes. Yup, sounds like an outstanding business that will have no problems sustaining itself.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 02:39 PM
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Look, but don't look; be attracted to me, but don't express it. MGTOW seems ridiculous (and from an objective perspective, is fucking outrageous), but shit like this, let alone the myriad of other no-win traps men can fall into, gives a glimpse into its appeal. And it's so fucking sad, to me, that feminists choose to categorically mock and deride such reaction movements by men. Where is the empathy, the critical thought to inquire, "What could lead some men to choose such a drastic outlook on re…
/r/MensRights19/06/18 02:16 AM
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It's so odd to me that the conclusion that an untrained man is the overwhelming favorite in a fight with an untrained woman is at all contentious. The average testosterone for a woman is 43 ng/dL; the average for a man is 670. That means that men have, on average, 16 times more of an illegal performance-enhancing drug pumping through their systems 24/7. Can you imagine squaring off against a NFL linebacker and having a reasonable expectation that there would be any degree of parity? If I had to …
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:57 AM
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Tennis, volleyball, and, completely nullifying head-to-head physical competition, pool and darts are all examples of sports in which huge fine motor skills/reactive differences are very evident.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 01:40 AM
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Yeah, APFT is pretty trash, for sure. Marines' PFT is better (assuming chin/pullups are tested, not fucking arm hangs), their CFT is better still, and raw strength measures like the Rangers' RAW Assessment are excellent standards of gauging and tracking ability.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 12:26 AM
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...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vIBijzg4w But seriously, the apparent nonchalance toward disregarding the crucial importance of due process in our society is terrifying. I assume that many of the folks pushing this "accusation = conviction" social narrative find historical precedents like witch hunts and lynch mobs to be abhorrent, and yet they seem to have few reservations about acting in a similar fashion themselves when a man is accused of sexual violence against a woman.
/r/MensRights19/06/18 12:06 AM
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Exactly! It's really great, especially because she doesn't at all seem like she's trying to pose herself as THE champion of this movement: she is sharing the stories of people like Dr. Warren Farrell, and acting as an outstanding ambassador for men's rights.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:52 PM
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"Because there are rapists" is the end of that "argument." Unless the other person wants to dispute whether or not rapists exist. Just imagine a shark (or jellyfish, or crocodile, or...) warning being issued for a stretch of Australian beach, telling people not to go in the water, or at least not beyond some reasonable protection measure like a shark net. Then someone does anyway, and gets killed by the dangerous creature they were warned about. Would there be a similar uproar, claiming that if …
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:07 PM
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Right? Seems like the best thing MRA's can do to actually lay the groundwork for meaningful improvement, is to get people to look into it for themselves; no amount of haranguing will force someone to want to join in and help bring people together. But something like Cassie's talk? Just seems a great way to give folks a chance to say to themselves, "huh, I never thought about it like that." And that, that right there, is the key; it's all downhill from that point, just gotta get folks to be open …
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:40 PM
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xD agreed, but some people (not just feminists either) just get their hackles up at the guy, so hoped to minimize the odds of sparking a potential frenzy.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:34 PM
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I agree. But with all the rhetoric about "toxic masculinity" and the general idea that boys rough-housing is some moral failing that must be repressed and scolded, I just don't even know any more.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:30 PM
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As for what to do now (in terms of helping men), my best advice is to focus on feeling out whether there might be people in your social circle who might be receptive to discussing, or at least listening to, the unique challenges facing men. Men's rights is a hard topic to talk about, and you gotta have trust that your audience is willing to engage; otherwise it can easily cause a big mess with no results. Building on just talking about your thoughts, I think the next step would be to share self-…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:13 PM
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No problem! I'm also typing up some general advice on what seems to be a good approach to helping address men's unique vulnerabilities in society, just wanted to throw up the first one for the obvious priority :) Also, incredible username xD
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:06 PM
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Okay, first off, the situation you're describing just screams, "LAWYER." Your reference to unequal custodial rights under state laws seems to imply a familiarity with the relevant laws, but holy shit: hostile caregiver relations, a drug-laden abusive home environment, and the fact that your SO's daughter has Asperger's??? I have no doubt you can find support and empathy on this subreddit, but only legal counsel has any chance of making immediate and meaningful headway in improving this nightmari…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:54 PM
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Oh for sure. I just mean that, as you move further toward high probability of intense physical demands, the biological "strength gap" becomes wider and more problematic. So artillery would be worse than logistics, infantry would be worse than artillery, spec ops would be worse than infantry, etc. I wholeheartedly support women participating in traditionally dangerous, male-dominated fields, such as the military, law enforcement, and firefighting. I just oppose any intimation that not having X% w…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:40 PM
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Not a study, but this reminded me of a segment Jordan Peterson did about how men don't know how to interact with women in the workplace (which seems to derive from men not wanting to offend women) https://youtu.be/D-xf9hKfLws?t=80
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:21 PM
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Jordan Peterson has an interesting segment on this (I know he's controversial, but I think his point his worth considering, at least): https://youtu.be/D-xf9hKfLws?t=80
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:19 PM
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Also, look at chimps. Those mofos love them some meat...including other chimps :(
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:13 PM
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...wasn't this posted yesterday? Edit: Almost 4500 upvotes and all over the sub yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8rmvxs/cambridge_teacher_wears_feminist_fashion_to_work/
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:11 PM
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Oh, for sure. Just always trying to sharpen up the point of the wedge, you know? Make the route to "hey, maybe there's something to this men's rights stuff, after all" as gradual a transition as possible. As you say, the talk is great, and the Red Pill is a great follow-up. But it's just sooooo hard to even get folks to consider listening to it; even the 14 min length of the talk might be a bit much for many, sadly. But then again, those folks probably aren't worth fretting over; can't force a f…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:10 PM
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Shitty part is that, even if they are fucking ninja enough to pass standard, and there are definitely bad-ass women with guts to spare, they'll still be at a crazy disadvantage just to keep up with coasting male counterparts . Testosterone is literally a performance enhancing drug, and the guys going into "the shit," be it combat or first responders, already tend to have above-average levels, compared to the average man. Not to mention the inherent mechanical disadvantages from stuff like hip wi…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 09:03 PM
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Exactly. Imagine a male solider is wounded. Very likely one of his comrades will have to haul his ass to safety. Say he weighs 200lbs, carrying another 60lbs of gear. And let's say a female soldier, weighing 140lbs, carrying 60lbs of gear, has to do the moving. Her gear included, she's gotta haul 320lbs across God-knows what terrain, in a combat environment, while probably in pretty rough condition herself. That's an additional and unnecessary concern that people in "the shit," be it combat or f…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 08:54 PM
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This strikes me as serving two main purposes. First, it demonstrates that men basically evolved to be prepared to fight, physically. And if it that was such a significant evolutionary selection, then it's reasonable to assume that combat-conducive temperaments were also favored by the environmental stimulus in question (i.e., men are generally more aggressive/derive greater emotional/hormonal rewards from aggressive behavior). Outcome: men may have more innate proclivity for aggression/violence,…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 08:46 PM
3

So just as an absurd but relevant real-world example of controlling for training, the Australian women's national soccer team lost 7-0 to a team of 15-year-old boys... (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australian-womens-national-team-lose-70-to-team-of-15yearold-boys-a3257266.html) And that's soccer; what do you think happens if you escalate to combat-tier competitions? (hint: https://youtu.be/p1jCOkyuzCs?t=7)
/r/MensRights18/06/18 08:37 PM
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...so because one woman is taller than one man, then the overwhelming empirical evidence provided above should be discounted? Are you, by chance, a certain US Senator from Oklahoma? https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8?t=9
/r/MensRights18/06/18 08:30 PM
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Are we condemning preemptively now?
/r/MensRights18/06/18 06:05 PM
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2018: "It's easy to remove people from the wall." 2019: "It's easy to remove people." 2020: "It's easy to free our enlightened society of problematic undesirables."
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:41 PM
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"Things will only change when there are more women making decisions!" next sentence "There are no differences between men and women! To even suggest such is to hate women!" http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/993/875/084.png
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:12 PM
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Wait, so is this post stating, "SEE, we told you men are inherently monstrous!" or "There is overwhelming empirical evidence supporting the conclusion that men have innate biological advantages over women when it comes to athletic/demanding physical exertion?" I'm assuming the latter, but considering some of the mental gymnastics I've observed (cough "Women have always been the primary victims of war" cough), I'm a bit gun-shy -__-
/r/MensRights18/06/18 04:07 PM
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"It's easy to remove people from the wall." That doesn't sound straight out of Stalin's handbook at all. As though the American medical pipeline wasn't insanely stressful for kids already. Now guys come in feeling like their Y chromosome is the Mark of Cain. Edit: Okay, HOLD UP. Yes, this news is messed up, but the "It's easy to remove people from the wall," quote is from a student, not the hospital president, and it's a preface statement to "It’s more difficult putting people of color in power;…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:03 AM
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Yeah, no shit! Can you imagine schools having a meaningful investigative role in any other allegation of such a serious crime? "Hey principal, we just received a bomb threat." "Ok, assemble the Teacher-Admin Major Crimes Unit." If it's serious enough to fall into the realm of assault, it's serious enough to fall under the exclusive purview of the criminal justice system.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:47 AM
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Why Dr. Farrell doesn't have a waaaay bigger public presence is beyond me. The man is polite, fact-based, objective, and very clearly cares deeply for the improvement in quality of life for people (both men and women).
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:43 AM
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Holy shit, can you imagine the "Patrice O'Neal School for Young Boys?" xD
/r/MensRights18/06/18 10:39 AM
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Oh sweet summer child. Off to Problematic Re-Education you go!
/r/MensRights17/06/18 02:21 PM
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Large hips made larger by fat. Look at thighs, knees, and calves. This woman is overweight.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 07:23 AM
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"But don't not look at me, or you're a slut-shaming woman-hater and I'll file a sexual harassment claim with HR for your assault on my self-esteem"
/r/MensRights17/06/18 06:39 AM
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Economics huh? Hmmm, I wonder what her nuanced and empirically-robust thoughts on the wage gap are xD
/r/MensRights17/06/18 06:37 AM
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This seems to be a fair representation of a "normal" female physique: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b25db0d2835a205143d267810ae3af42 . Pretty clear contrast with the clearly overweight image seen above.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 06:21 AM
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Relax. Women predominately carry excess body-fat around their thighs and hips, as this photo pretty clearly demonstrates. Contrast her physique with what seems to be a pretty neutral depiction of a "normal" healthy woman: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b25db0d2835a205143d267810ae3af42
/r/MensRights17/06/18 06:18 AM
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You're projecting and misrepresenting what I'm actually saying, friend. This woman is overweight. Being overweight or underweight is not good. Folks should be conscious of the relationship between diet, activity, and their health. Aside from sugar addiction, weight management is as simple as it comes: eat less, lose weight; eat more, gain weight.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 06:08 AM
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...I hope you're trolling. This woman is definitely overweight. How you can describe her as "thin" is mind-boggling.
/r/MensRights17/06/18 05:56 AM
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What mod policy are you referring to?
/r/MensRights17/06/18 01:54 AM
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Instead of "rape prevention training" for students and workers, we should just show this gif to every man: https://media.giphy.com/media/NBR6MEf2K2vG8/giphy.gif
/r/MensRights16/06/18 11:49 PM
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Not exactly a model for physical health either. All this "women are beautiful no matter what" bullshit is a public health travesty. If you are underweight or overweight, you are neither healthy or beautiful, but you have the ability to change that; this normalization of unhealthy lifestyles is beyond delusion, it's toxic and enabling.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 11:03 PM
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Allegations. So I can allege anything about anyone, and they'll be treated like they're guilty? Time to accuse everyone above me at work until I'm the CEO! -__-
/r/MensRights16/06/18 10:59 PM
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The truly odd thing of it, to me, is that the official criminal justice system of due process coexists with this cancer of kangaroo court mob justice. It would be one thing if the legal system was replaced, but to have a punitive system overseeing justice alongside the courts is insane. -18-year-old not in college gets accused of rape: goes to court, with due process. -18-year-old in college gets accused of rape: enters an internal and opaque tribunal system, where burden of evidence is on both …
/r/MensRights16/06/18 10:57 PM
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Sweet Christ. So does this mean that men are allowed to stare at her, or would that be sexual harassment? And frankly, if you're gonna pull shit like this, why not at least take care of your diet and work out in preparation...
/r/MensRights16/06/18 10:50 PM
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No problem! Also, if you'd like another great resource on this topic, for your own exploration, I highly recommend Warren Farrell's book, "The Myth of Male Power." Farrell is one of the central figures in the Red Pill doc and, like Cassie, started out as a ardent feminist. The book is sadly rather dated, but it's core themes are timeless, so I think you'd find it interesting :)
/r/MensRights16/06/18 10:20 PM
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No need to apologize, friend. It sounds like your intentions were nothing but good. Just that, when it comes to something as contentious as this, it's strongly advised to consider the worst-cast outcomes; be careful which hills you are willing to die on.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 07:56 PM
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Muh Guitar Gap -__-
/r/MensRights16/06/18 07:02 PM
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I agree that there's a profound lack of support for male survivors of sexual violence, but this doesn't strike me as a constructive outlet for that. When I see this, it implies that you believe only male survivors; rather than raising awareness for men, you come off as discrediting survivors if they're women.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:53 PM
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...why the FUCK are we believing any accusers prior to a conviction in a court of law? Just apply this logic to any other alleged crime: "He stole from me!" "Guilty!" "He violated his contract!" "Guilty!" "He's gonna try to murder someone!" "Guilty!" The accused are not, and must not be, presumed guilty.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 05:40 PM
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Welcome, friend! :) I think you're being awfully hard on yourself. Feminism previously seemed the right thing, you learned some new info, and now you feel like you have a more holistic understanding. That's how learning works. I know it's shitty to reflect on false presumptions you used to have, but it's just like anything else in life; think back on some of the naive beliefs you had as a kid! And big props for taking the initiative to examine contary viewpoints! That's super hard; it opens peop…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 05:32 PM
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Jesus Christ, man...I don't even know what to say. I'm afraid I'm not of any help in the resources department, but this sounds like the definition of a nightmare. The only free confidential resource I can think of is (seriously) a priest; from personal experience, just having a person you can talk to who isn't directly involved is incredibly helpful. Oh wait, I just remembered something! Pick up the phone and dial 2-1-1. It'll take you to an operator who directs folks to resources, depending on …
/r/MensRights16/06/18 07:34 AM
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Lots of young Hindu men frustrated with lack of access to wives = potential weapon by Hindu nationalists, if their frustration can be weaponized by depicting Muslims as the scapegoat.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 07:04 AM
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No problem, friend. I'm not familiar enough with the intricacies of the current state of Indian society to respond meaningfully to your comment. Assuming that things truly are as bad as you describe for Hindus, then it does still tie into my concern about the long-term effects of Hindu nationalism: young Hindu men will be outraged at such behavior and could be easily harnessed to support Hindu nationalist movements, which have demonstrated a willingness to push an us-them agenda in the past, as …
/r/MensRights16/06/18 07:00 AM
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1964, 1969, 1970, 1983, 1984, 1985 1987, 1989, 1992, 2002, 2013. The BJP is not the cause of Hindu nationalism so much as it has encouraged it and profited off of it. Indian Muslims are certainly not free from having caused violence against Hindus. I am merely observing that, if disparate birth rates produce large numbers of Indian men unable to find wives, the relatively more numerous Hindus are more likely to be affected in a pronounced fashion, which in turn could have an effect on the messag…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:51 AM
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I'm talking about India (Kashmir excluded) specifically, since that is what the post is about. Not familiar with too many Indian Muslims rushing to join Al Qaeda or DAESH.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:42 AM
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Eight unique sources cited in that one paragraph alone. Feel free to cite opposing evidence. And considering that the BJP coalition dominates in India and has a legacy of being suspiciously close to anti-Muslim orchestrations of violence, it does seem like Indian Muslims are the most probable victims of Hindu nationalism, yes.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:27 AM
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They don't care what you think, but you still have to buy a ticket. Otherwise you're a problematic misogynist.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:20 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India#Role_of_political_parties
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:18 AM
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There's a strong Hindu nationalist movement in India, spearheaded by the governing BJP party. Lot of violence in the name of religious identity, scary stuff. If increasing numbers of young Indian men are confronted with being unable to find a partner, such a movement could easily harness that frustration and channel it in support of its us-them narrative; angry young men are a dangerous potential armed wing to unleash against scapegoat populations who are depicted as being the cause of all bad t…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 06:11 AM
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Jeeesus. Pleeeaase can a popular Youtuber redo this properly: have the boy do more work. Sad part is, I'm sure these children would totally understand why the boy received a bigger reward. Rather than ramming their make-believe BS down kids' throats, maybe feminists would see the kids' understanding and reflect on their own attitudes.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 05:18 AM
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Nudity = empowerment. DUH. But don't you dare think of her as a sexual object, you rapist-in-waiting SCUM.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 05:12 AM
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Exactly -__- Heaven forbid they push popular and proven policies, like public healthcare and education, or heaven forbid NO MORE FUCKING TAX RETURNS. Nope, instead let's vilify the largest and most politically active voting block in the electorate...what do you mean Trump won??? Uhhh...FUCKING MISOGYNISTS!!!
/r/MensRights16/06/18 05:00 AM
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It's a real travesty: the US is ripe for benefiting from the tried-and-true successes of comparable states (see: healthcare, education, drug policy, employee rights, a sane political structure FREE OF FUCKING LOBBYING, return-free tax filing, etc.) which are in the Democratic wheelhouse (at least theoretically). But nope, the Dems joined the GOP in selling their soul for the special interest/donor game since the 1980s, so all they care about is preserving the cycle of paying their dues-climbing …
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:54 AM
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No, but if a woman wears leggings or shows cleavage, and a guy indulges his biological urge to look at such showing off of sexual features, and the woman accuses him of sexual harassment...that isn't great. Of course a guy can override his urge to look, but why is that woman wearing sexually displaying attire in the first place if she is offended if a guy succumbs to his nature and looks at her? Cleavage display, makeup, high heels; all these things are rooted in boosting sexual attraction.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:41 AM
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Already some great advice on here, but just two hammer home two things: treat this from a legal protection and a personal emotional standpoint. For the former: act as if. As if she is going to do the most batshit thing you can imagine. Record everything on video, try to have at least one friend present, don't say SHIT to her after informing her of what you're doing (think "you have the right to remain silent") and call the fucking cops to supervise. I know it sounds crazy, but you do not want to…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:31 AM
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Fucking delicious. Funny how the Euoros, despite being far more "socialist" than the American Dems, in general, tend to be less flagrantly lopsided in their treatment of gender issues (just my take).
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:18 AM
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Can we get a bot that posts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vIBijzg4w whenever the blanket excuse of "men's fault!" is used to rationalize the failure of a feminist initiative?
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:16 AM
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Yeah, I can't imagine working with someone who has this woman's attitude. Fuuuuck. Hopefully the poor guy can at least use this an opportunity to find a work environment in which he is appreciated and welcome :(
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:13 AM
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I agree. Just easier for me to have empathy for misandry in Rihanna's case than for the average modern feminist, for whom a guy saying "hi" falls into sexual harassment territory.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:11 AM
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Yeah, sadly -__- Just indulging in some wistful fantasy, I guess.
/r/MensRights16/06/18 04:09 AM
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Exactly! To me it seems like the Dems really have the American political scene by the balls: the average (see: non-millionaire) American citizen would vastly benefit from policies more in-line with those already successful in comparable societies (healthcare, education, employee rights, NO FUCKING TAX RETURNS). But their stubborn commitment to isolating, contentious things like identity politics just injects energy into the GOP's current "family values" platform. Both seem obsessed with protecti…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 12:40 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vIBijzg4w
/r/MensRights16/06/18 12:33 AM
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Surely you mean, https://youtu.be/E37swnRU2fs?t=526
/r/MensRights16/06/18 12:32 AM
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I dunno. Seems like they are far less obsessed with it than we are (my theory is that slavery/Jim Crow's legacy is the roots of the modern tribalism here), and that their multiparty political systems dilute the us-them death-match we have. Still a heavy PC push, for sure, but a lot of Euros are shocked by the insanity going on here. As for the Muslim threat, it seems to be overblown. I've visited several times, talked to a lot of folks. Integration is certainly a concern, but the boogeyman of Sh…
/r/MensRights16/06/18 12:05 AM
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How hard is it to see that humans love to feel like they're in a superior group? Whether it's religions, racial supremacy, or mocking kids on the playground because they're different in some way, putting other groups down makes people feel good. These same feminists who decry male supremacy turn right around and constantly belittle men. How about we see that we have far more in common than we do differences, and that, as men and women, we need each other to do well: it's how our species works.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:59 PM
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Tbf, she did get mauled by the POS Chris Brown (how the FUCK he's still a superstar that a lot of women still worship is...discouraging), so I can understand why she might have an especially big chip on her shoulder, esp when feminism is doing all it can to extrapolate that asshhole's evil to male behavior, as a whole. But yeah, two wrongs don't make a fucking right, and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzOIGulUIQ
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:46 PM
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I would like to. In a bit of a personal transition at the moment, but even just being on this subreddit makes me feel a lot less isolated with my frustrations about all this. It's primarily that the current social and political momentum is just devastating to anyone trying to speak up. Both sides are out for blood, and anyone trying to find a middle ground gets steamrolled; either you're TwoX or you're T_D My thing is this: what's so wrong with the model of somewhere like Denmark or the Netherla…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:44 PM
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Oh, I vote Republican. Only out of the hope that repeatedly losing to the GOP will maybe hammer home to the Dems that maybe identity politics is not the way to go, and they should try to unite people, rather than divide them -__- Sadly, even that warped logic seems to be futile. Long-term plan is to get my ass to the EU; not perfect, but seems far less obsessed with tribalism, and folks seem much happier.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:38 PM
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Oh shit, man, I think I got something to cheer you up. Not constructive and all, but definitely better than porn. Check out the comedian Patrice O'Neal on Youtube (good stating point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoD8gIuc2Hk). Has a great bit about learning to only let yourself love a woman 90% of the way...which I too learned the hard way. Again, man, just focus on one step in front of the other. You can make it. Just. Keep. Moving.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:35 PM
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Does it? What religions lay out their beliefs in an empirically disprovable manner?
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:31 PM
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cue Erika as propaganda film of Jordan Peterson and Milo plays xD
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:29 PM
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Mental health crisis, increase in violent behavior, increase in resentment of women by low-status men. Just glad that neither state is a hotbed for jihadist recruitment...although Hindu nationalism might be exacerbated.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:25 PM
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That sounds like a sign of an unequal affection. You deserve to feel this degree of care for someone who feels it for you, and wouldn't treat you like this. Concrete advice: Focus on tangible things that you can lose yourself in. Clean your home, work out, go dancing. DON'T numb yourself with video games, or porn, or drugs (booze included), or sleep. It's hard, but you have to just do the first step; once you're in the groove, just let your mind fall into whatever activity you're doing. Just foc…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:22 PM
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I'm sure it hurts a lot, now, but it sounds like this is not a woman that deserves to be in your life: she refuses to talk to you, until you get upset, then she tries to be your friend and ask what's wrong, then she insists on embracing you after you say you don't want to, then she gets mad at you for rejecting said unwanted embrace, all in response to her texting her ex behind your back, and then immediately shacks up with said ex. You dodged a fucking bullet. It probably hurts. A lot. But ther…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 11:09 PM
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You asked her not to touch you, she did, and you physically removed her with restraint. That's not abuse. Flip the script: if a woman asked a man not to touch her, he did, and she pushed him away, would you consider that to be abuse? For clarity's sake: you guys were still together when you invited her over, and she left for the ex after you pushed her away?
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:55 PM
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Does anyone else see a similarity with religious zealots? Religion is immune from being disproven because it is separate from evidence; it is by its nature not falsifiable. Science, in contrast, is defined by the ability to falsify theories: under X conditions, Theory Y is invalid. Like fundamentalist sects, SJW types have no place for evidence unless it entirely conforms to and reinforces their already-held beliefs.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:38 PM
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I'm only concerned with identity politics in that it seems to preclude me from any involvement with the political party I tend to agree with. If, for example, I wanted to run for local office as a Dem, I'd have to kow-tow to this BS about privilege, wage gap, etc (if they'd even let me run, being of a "problematic" demographic as I am). Just trying to figure out how I balance my actual political views (which are on the left) with the refusal to spend my life prostrate to the Dems' condemnation o…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:31 PM
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The sad part is that I'm struggling to see the centerpieces here in the US: I know that both party had moderates, but the poles seem to be pulling the platforms further and further to the extremes, so trying to pick and choose individual candidates is, at best, a half-measure. Dunno if I'd describe SJW's as Machiavellian; they seem the furthest things from the savvy realists described in The Prince. But they are certainly committed to advancing their agenda, evidence be damned. Johnathan Haidt d…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:27 PM
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It's de facto discrimination, but probably not de jure; the employer has the right to set dress code standards. But you are 100% right that male dress code, especially at work, is generally far more conservative/rigid than that for female workers. Take, for example, how much skin is allowed to be on display in formal attire. A suited man shows only his hands, neck, and face. A woman in a similar professional environment can be sleeveless, wear open-toed footwear, show leg to the knee, and even i…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:19 PM
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Oh, sorry for the ambiguity. Yeah, my personal curiosity(/frustration) is over the lack of an appealing political option: fundamentally disagree with the GOP about 90% of their platform, fundamentally disagree with the Dems over the other 10%...but that 10% includes whether men's rights matter. I do appreciate your guidance on how to find outlets for my thoughts. A year ago, the concept of men's rights seemed a joke. Then I stumbled across the Red Pill Documentary. That, Warren Farrell and Jorda…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 10:07 PM
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Oh, I agree wholeheartedly. It's more that I don't agree with the overarching trajectory being taken by the GOP (e.g., fighting against sane healthcare and education systems, ignoring climate change, embracing the influence of evangelical religion in policy, etc.). But the Dems, among their many flaws, just seem to leave no space for reasonable conversation, when it comes to identity politics. And if I, a self-described progressive, feel left out, what the hell do moderates/mild-righters feel?
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:46 PM
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I agree. Maybe back in the 90s the vilification of boys and men hadn't become such a prevalent social norm yet. I wish male mental health (and mental health in general) received greater public attention. Between the ironic isolation of social media, the "men are bad" social narrative, and the ongoing pressure on men to "man up" and not display weakness (let alone the prohibitive cost of counseling, at least in the US), it seems like a recipe for disaster. And as boys do worse in school/have fewe…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 09:28 PM
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Aside from being more modern, what does this book add to Warren Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power?"
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:57 PM
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He generally seems way better than Alex Jones's gay frogs comedy hour...but I imagine the ol' interdimensional demons network is pretty lucrative xD
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:56 PM
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xD nice
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:54 PM
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That's an interesting thought. All I can think is that the Hulk imagery might be interpreted as the boys being the monsters, rather than it being an embodiment of their internal problems. Other than that, it doesn't strike me as condescending, and actually seems refreshing to see an acknowledgement that boys need outlets for communicating difficulties; there's a stark contrast between the image of the upset boy here and the prevailing stoic/too-cool-to-feel image that boys tend to try to live up…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:53 PM
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Could probably keep the headline and left-hand images and just swap the message from "boys, seek help," to "boys, only you can prevent rape!"
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:40 PM
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Not a fan of Info Wars, but I'm glad Mr. Lloyd is continuing to be in the spotlight. He seems to do a good job of politely (with some light trolling) hammering home stats and exposing double standards.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:37 PM
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Any position that refuses to examine evidence contrary to its beliefs is suspect. I notice your comment got downvoted, but none of those folks seem to have responded to your posting of sources; that is where such criticism should be voiced. Anyway, props for trying to point out how unfounded and counter-productive the "world is out to get women" narrative is :)
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:34 PM
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While humans certainly have the capacity to act independent of their genetic "programming," our biological inclinations, especially relating to reproduction, are extremely important. Life is defined by the pursuit of passing on genes; every species does so. So although we have incredible consciousness, we still have the same ingrained inclinations as other animals: women rank resources/status as most attractive while men rank physical attractiveness. The difference between men and women is defin…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 08:26 PM
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Jesus Christ. This constant need by feminism to boost itself by tearing down men is the exact opposite of what society needs. Every day it's "girls rule, boys drool." Aside from coming off as insecure projection, what's the end-game? How does this improve our quality of life? This us-them tribal bullshit only creates masturbatory echo-chambers of validating people's existing beliefs. How about we help each other and build each other up? Fucking hell. And feminists wonder why people oppose them; …
/r/MensRights15/06/18 07:37 PM
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Yeah, that's really what I mean. The emphasis on meeting societal expectations by providing X gift is awful. Not to mention, why relegate appreciation to a specific day? If you suddenly feel, "hey, I really want to show my wife how much she means to me," then you just show her then. This force-feeding of "okay, be sure to be overly nice on this one day" is phony and distracts from the need to regularly let our loved ones know how important they are.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 07:31 PM
0

Yeah, I guess it depends on the level of flirtation. But I wonder, if there hadn't been a previous protest by the recipient, if something like a nude pic could actually be classified as sexual harassment (in the courts, I mean, not the lynch mob kangaroo court of HR or Title IX).
/r/MensRights15/06/18 06:33 PM
-6

xD Guess it's just excited at how much JUSTICE is being served out to the Patriarchy by the Holy Sisterhood of PoundMeToo
/r/MensRights15/06/18 06:14 PM
3

My question is how many safe spaces (lol) are left for the average guy, in terms of careers? Dirty/dangerous jobs don't get many women, but even there liability-conscious HR is no doubt gutting men's ability to just be men, while white-collar male fields like tech and finance are similarly being squeezed.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:56 PM
-3

Because FUCK presumption of innocence...ifyouhaveapenis
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:51 PM
96

100 fucking percent. Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day. All just trash to guilt people into spending too much money on things that are supposed to equate to love. Oh, I didn't get you diamonds for Valentine's but your friend's husband did, so I don't love you as much? Bullshit.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:50 PM
2

On this point, I am always stuck wondering how states like Denmark and the Netherlands fit. Communism/socialism is at best idealistic, more often nightmarish. But the crony capitalism we have in the US seems to produce a lower average quality of life compared to the mixed economies/social democrat structures of the two examples I mentioned. Input and thoughts appreciated, thanks.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:46 PM
8

Exactly! A guy can be bashful, or just prefer talking with other guys, or might even have genuine behavioral problems. Can you imagine if women were suddenly labeled "man-haters" if they refused to enthusiastically talk with men? The arrogance, and callousness, on display here is frightening.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:37 PM
4

It is a double standard, sure, but it seems to me that it really just derives differences in reproductive "value;" compared to a woman, a guy is comparatively disposable. So guys have to demonstrate why they should be allowed, by a woman, to be her partner. So women are basically employers receiving resumes, while guys are job-hunters looking for job offers; the latter tends to place higher value on his incoming mail than the former.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:33 PM
25

Remember how Nancy Reagan won the war on drugs by telling all those silly druggies to "Just say no!"
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:27 PM
3

Would love to see Warren Farrell on there.
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:25 PM
3

Heaven forbid you at least attempt to engage with someone from "the other side." Maybe you can learn something, or provide new information to them, or maybe find out why they believe what they do. When you just refuse to interact, you just deepen the rift. Both sides should be making allies, and that means everybody has to listen. But that doesn't make me feel as warm and fuzzy, so [BLOCKED]. -__-
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:24 PM
17

Gee, it's almost like men and women are generally attracted to different fields. Like fields that reflect differences in sexual attraction rates...almost as though men and women have different attraction appeals, and that a high-stress/high-status field like tech would yield greater return for the sex that is selected for status... Nah, that's silly problematic talk. Just gotta get rid of that institutional sexism in schools! You know, the system designed by women to cater to female-friendly met…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:19 PM
7

I remember hearing that the Asian exception to socioeconomic status is what caused the genesis of the hip "person of color" label in modern discourse, over the previously-favored "minority" monolith. As a sidebar, how is "person of color" different than "colored person?" Like "a red-colored wall" and "a wall of red color" mean the exact same thing, do they not?
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:13 PM
23

"Low-key woman-haters?" xD so unless a guy is as social butterfly and your BFF, he must hate women? And isn't the stereotype that programming was originally a refuge for the nerdy guy, like exactly the kind of guy this woman is describing? But this woman suddenly expects that the decades-old prevailing culture of the field to immediately conform to her comfort zone, presumably without actually talking to the fucking guy about her concerns? Hmm let's see..."Wow, I just became a nurse, but as a gu…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 05:05 PM
9

The decision to prioritize teaching men not to be rapists over teaching women how to minimize risk of rape is just foolish, on multiple levels. First, it implies that women have less agency than men; they're incapable of being responsible for their own safety...which in turn actually creates a moral hazard where they may feel protected in situations where they may actually be in danger, and could have been reasonably avoided by awareness on her part. Second it implies that a significant portion …
/r/MensRights15/06/18 04:54 PM
1

Giving up pay, especially for poor families, because you are pregnant/caring for a newborn, is punishment for having a child; if she did not have a child, she would still be acquiring income. And the concept of getting "free" stuff is absurd. It comes from taxes. Are police free, or roads, or the military? If someone has no job, should they and their children be allowed to starve or die of lack of medical treatment should they need it? And the prohibitive costs of children is driving down birthr…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 05:36 AM
6

It's really terrible. Just rejecting science and empirical evidence, the bedrock of modern civilization, to protect an ideology that has developed its own momentum and has become a moneymaker for con-artists manipulating well-meaning but naive young people into a gerbil wheel of victimization and hostility. And anybody who tries to pull back the curtain gets crucified. Thank god for people like Jordan Peterson, who actually tries to approach this with minimal politicization. Just wish Christophe…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 05:23 AM
1

I am a dual American-German citizen in the US. I plan to move to the Netherlands or Denmark for work, and I have done significant research on the prevailing attitudes of the workers and work cultures. In short, Europeans value hard work while at the job, but also value their enjoyment of life outside of work; they generally work fewer hours per week and enjoy more paid time off per year. Subjective perceptions of life do matter. If you have a high-status job but you hate it, that is very differe…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 05:15 AM
1

Steady, calm, unyielding adherence to the facts, and related illustration of empirical flaws in opposition, is the only option that works here. And it does work. Point out the glaring flaws in the wage gap claim, point out the flaws in the studies used to support "campus rape culture" claims, ask why male circumcision is a tolerable social norm, state (and have the references available) the multiple areas of life in which men disproportionately suffer. It works. The key, in my own experience, is…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 05:02 AM
1

The experience of the average American worker and the average Danish worker is not remotely close; the former is significantly less happy with his life than the latter, despite working under more stressful conditions and with fewer guaranteed benefits. Material wealth alone, for most humans, is insufficient for happiness, and often unnecessary beyond the point of being able to provide for their family's well-being; most folks would pass up 100-hour work weeks even if they made a lot more money. …
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:55 AM
3

All we can reasonably do is push empirical evidence. As demonstrated by Jordan Peterson's Channel 4 interview, it shreds the BS of the opposition when it reaches the public spotlight. More documentaries like The Red Pill are even better, since they have the additional benefit of attracting negative media reactions, which can then be shown for the groundless ideological posturing they are, as Cassie Jaye effectively did in Australia.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:40 AM
3

My personal belief is that most people, given the choice between a rat-race lifestyle for material wealth and a more flexible life in which they could work on whatever they wanted without fear of not being able to provide for their family, would choose the latter. That reasoning is based on observation of attitudes in more egalitarian states like Denmark and the Netherlands, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, and the behaviors of pre-industrial humans and chimps. And income disparity, at the high and …
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:36 AM
3

I'm an American, and Bernie is the only thing that seems to come close here. But even he has to kow-tow to the American left's Golden Calf of identity politics. The inherent advantage of the left, to me, is that it focuses on uniting the disadvantaged for their benefit, maximizing how much of society they serve. Given the income disparity in the US, it'd seem an easy task: unite non-millionaires and focus on common issues like education, healthcare, political finance reform, war on drugs, etc. M…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:26 AM
2

My intuition is that blind adherence to their ideology makes them feel good...and that is their primary interest. If you don't have to compromise or adapt your beliefs, if you are always on the Right side no matter what evidence the Other produces against you, then you always feel warm and fuzzy inside, because you are one of the Good guys. In other words, these people seem to care more about feeling good than actually improving the problems they rail about. I identify pretty damn leftist, and t…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:11 AM
1

Exactly. You can't even have a conversation with someone like that. Which in itself sucks, because A)resorting to numb apathy is awful, and B)that person just keeps on leaving in their bubble while they could actually learn something and maybe reflect critically on other areas of their life :( And yeah. When she said that, my jaw almost hit the floor. It really seems like modern feminism just rejects that humans are animals; we are separate beings above such filthy features as natural selection …
/r/MensRights14/06/18 04:06 AM
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It seems like the traditional gender roles for both men and women were rooted in sacrifice: men sacrificed safety/personal happiness to be a provider of security and resources while women sacrificed personal ambitions to be a caretaker of children and the home. So both sexes were encouraged to be humble (seems to me like men's comparative reproductive disposability particularly encouraged men to put the group's well-being above their own; see prevalence of hazing of new members in traditional ma…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 03:58 AM
1

It's doubly bizarre because, if men and women are indeed the same, why we need more women in positions of power? And where in the hell does "toxic masculinity" from, then? It's just ridiculous. I mean, considering how many real and actionable political initiatives we could be working on, to actually improve our societies and quality of life, we're doing witch-hunts over people saying that male and female members of a species have differences between them. As funny/sad note, I had a woman tell me…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 03:16 AM
1

My sentiment is that, from an evolutionary standpoint, more aggressive men were more successful in accumulating/providing resources, which in turn incentivized women to favor such traits, ultimately favoring dominant temperaments in men and attraction to such temperaments in women. Therefore, it seems reasonable that men are more likely to have innate inclination toward seeking to assert/display their dominance than women, since it paid off in past eras. Regarding the desire for a sense of commu…
/r/MensRights14/06/18 02:31 AM
1

Would you agree that men, in general, tend to be more aggressive/pursuant of dominance relative to women? And would you agree that humans, in general, tend to desire a sense of community and support in society (e.g., Maslow's hierarchy of needs)?
/r/MensRights14/06/18 02:11 AM
5

It seems like this is the only way to have a conversation with ideologues: their flawed beliefs have to crumble under reality. It's sad, because a lot of hostility can be avoided and resources spent more effectively, if evidence predicting the ultimate outcome were heeded, but it unfortunately seems to be a case of Newton's First Law at work; this is the unbalanced force correcting the narrative.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 01:34 AM
2

It's crazy. In the documentary, "The Red Pill," Karen Straughan raises a similar case about the #bringbackourgirls campaign: the media and politicians lost their minds over the kidnapping of schoolgirls...while completely ignoring that schoolboys had been previously burned alive.
/r/MensRights14/06/18 01:10 AM
3

Boggles my mind. "...So you're admitting that 75% of homeless are men and 81% of journalists killed were men???"
/r/MensRights14/06/18 12:19 AM
2

How so? I certainly think that such an action is appropriate on your son's part, I'm just curious how it fits with the tension between sexual attraction via dominance and being a compassionate member of an egalitarian society. In my own life, for example, I feel like I'm faced with a broad choice of chasing money/status (the dominance/high reproductive standing path) at the expense of my desire to live a quiet life of friendship and personal passions (the "soul" path). I've decided on the latter…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 11:58 PM
2

Exactly. It drives me up an effing wall. Rather than campaigning on unifiers, like "no more fucking tax returns!" they alienate potential supporters by pushing contentious, unfounded narratives like "patriarchy," "college rape culture," and "instutional [insert -ism]." The male-female divide, to me, is the most mind-boggling. The fact that you can't say "men and women are different" without being crucified is insane. Yet, despite their alleged interchangeability by the Left, for some reason we n…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 11:30 PM
1

It's scary to me how the identity-based/tribal narrative of the modern American Left seems to be creating a cult, where inconvenient evidence not only doesn't matter, but indicates that the person presenting it is Bad. My opinion is that a victimization narrative is a powerful foundation upon which a person can base their identiy: fighting the Good fight against [insert "problematic" noun here] seems to make people feel Good. And it provides a social support network of other Good believers. Cons…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 11:14 PM
2

I think I stumbled across the documentary, "The Red Pill," on the documentary subreddit. It really made me look critically at a lot of things I hadn't even thought about before. And in the aftermath of that, when I started to ask related questions of my peers, their blanket hostility really made me perk up; anytime you can't even ask questions about something or request evidence, it's worth checking to see if there might be something going on.
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:45 PM
5

It looks like a training exercise but still, holy shit. How the fuck can someone rationalize having women in a front-line riot control role, where hands-on is expected. Testosterone disparity+physics=...well, this. Edit: I'm assuming this is a woman, primarily from the gait, but could just be a goofy dude xD
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:39 PM
3

The sad part is that she was a zealous supporter of this "patriarchy" narrative. She's an intelligent person, but just totally bought into the self-righteous appeal of this nonsense. I was trying to shed light on some angles she may have not previously considered, but she just immediately went defensive. I tried to be as soft as possible, using stats and verified sources (as well as mentioning self-ed stuff like the Red Pill doc), but nadda. It's really sad, as she thinks she's on the Right side…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:23 PM
11

I had a conversation with a female coworker who had recently graduated from college. Her explicit preference for presumption of guilt for sexual offenses was stunning. I repeatedly asked why an 18-year-old in college accused of a sexual offense should be treated in a different manner than a counterpart not in college (the former being judged by the kangaroo court of college administrators without due process, and the latter being judged in the courts/criminal justice system). She just kept tryin…
/r/MensRights13/06/18 10:10 PM
1

Yeah I have a lawyer (a criminal defense one). He seems to know a relevant few people in the company and feels like we're in a decent spot with our case, but it's just this narrative of my employer wanting to show the world how sexual harassment-conscious they are...seems like I'm a tailor made sacrifice to be tossed into their MeToo volcano -__-
/r/MensRights12/06/18 04:47 AM
1

Thanks, friend. All lawyered up, thankfully (as unafforable as it is; no Walmart for defense counsel :(
/r/MensRights12/06/18 04:44 AM
1

If they choose her story over mine, that crap is entered into my personnel file. And the worst part is that I have no idea what my odds are: legally, I'm 100% confident, but this kangaroo court shit, with this narrative? I am very confident these HR people will enjoy crucifying me to bolster the company's image, evidence be damned.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 04:16 AM
2

If it makes any difference, it's because my coworker filed an accusation against me, so the employer got involved (have to, legally). But yeah, I really wish this sort of thing stayed in the courts; either it's big enough for the legal system, which is designed to handle it, or it shouldn't be allowed to ruin someone's life. Of course, I always do have the option of simply not participating. Which would result in my being found "guilty," terminated, and my employer labeling me as a "sex offender…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:54 AM
2

I hope so, thanks. Yeah, my reputation is squeaky clean. She was drunk earlier in the day, but that ended like 6 hours prior to the incident, and I had been feeding her tons of food and water before and after drinking. And most importantly, by the time the incident happened, she was well-within the realm of awareness; we had spent the previous three hours talking and hanging out, and she was world's better than she had been, AND she was the one who initiated the incident in question.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:47 AM
4

Lol exactly. But in seriousness, it's because it's between two employees.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:42 AM
2

I have no idea. That's the thing. The burden of this case should be on the ACCUSER, not the accused. Instead, here I am trying to prove that she was, in fact, of sound state of mind, rather than vice versa.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:29 AM
5

The only reason this case exists is that they're claiming that she was "more drunk" than I was. Like, I have one drink, she has two, suddenly she's incapable of consent according to my employer (despite the fact that she had initiated a series of private sexual encounters and public flirtations on previous dates, and was extremely engaged during the incident in question, and had been drinking voluntarily, and hadn't been drinking for 4 hours prior to the incident, and had demonstrated clear capa…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:22 AM
2

They revoked my site access the day they informed me of the accusation. I highly doubt these bastards will do me the favor of taking this to court, though; the accuser doesn't want to be bothered with the inconvenience of having to prove me guilty, and any defense counsel/judge would throw this BS out in one sitting. If such an unlikely event does happen, however, I have plenty of witnesses to corroborate my claims about workplace environment.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:03 AM
2

If I resign, they'll automatically find me guilty, since they'll only have the accuser's account to consider. To be honest, I've been wanting to leave for a while. But the plan was to transition when I had the skills built up to transition smoothly into the field I really want to get into, not play hot potato like this. But not like there's a choice, now.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 03:00 AM
2

100%. The funny (I guess) thing is that the only reason I let myself get so close to her was that she was leaving; seemed like a straightforward scenario to hang out without complications. Fucking WRONG. She got to fool around without complications, alright, and left a goddamn mushroom cloud in her wake.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 02:35 AM
5

Working this job, even before this shitstorm, really showed me how insane the double-standard is. Guys have to wear ironed shirts and dress shoes, women wear leggings and flip-flops; female boost each other for being "powerful" and "sassy," men who are assertive are "mean" or "man-splaining." I bent over backward to fit the culture of the place and was always friendly and helpful. As soon as my accuser leaked this bullshit, I was treated like a predatory demon. It's obviously messed me up, bigti…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 02:23 AM
6

Yeah, will do.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 01:31 AM
5

Thanks, I'm sure you're right. The really messed up part? I cared about this girl. Like, really cared. And she knew that. I would NEVER do anything to hurt her, or anything she said she didn't want to do. And yet she's trying to disembowel me, didn't even respond when I reached out in the aftermath of the incident, to check if everything was okay. And she's told at least one of our coworkers/mutual friends, so by now the whole place probably views me as a monster. It's just...killing me. It's ge…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 01:30 AM
10

Technically, it's a line from Parks and Recreation. Although I doubt that a misogynist line from Married With Children would be treated with such humor and "you-go-girl!" attitudes -__-
/r/MensRights12/06/18 01:23 AM
4

I agree. I got a lawyer, because the specter of this nightmare evolving into criminal charges scared the shit out of me. Ironically, I kinda wish it did go that route, now, since then my accuser would have to actually prove me guilty, as opposed to me having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to an organization that wants to burn my ass for their PR that I am innocent. It's unreal.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 01:20 AM
5

There's the rub. If they find me "guilty" or whatever, and enter "nonconsensual sexual [insert bullshit here]" under my name, how the hell do I get another job?
/r/MensRights12/06/18 01:15 AM
3

Yup. Wonder if they'll castrate me before or after they tar and feather me.
/r/MensRights12/06/18 01:13 AM
18

Afraid not. I'm a non-union low-level white guy in a female-dominated and openly WithHer/MeToo office (they had a day of mourning when Trump won, openly make pro-Democrat/anti-GOP comments at official meetings, and one of my coworkers has a cute little "Men's Rights is Nothing" sign proudly displayed in her office) at an employer who has recently been wracked with accusations of covering up sexual misconduct by predatory higher-ups. But I'm sure that the supervisor deciding my fate, someone with…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 12:34 AM
11

Thanks. Yeah, I got a lawyer (which is crippling me, financially; added insult is that my accuser gets the full weight of the employer on her side for free, while I go into debt for a counselor who, by employer policy, can't directly participate in the process) and have been super diligent with HR. Even so, I just feel in my gut like they're going to crucify me; it's a perfect narrative for their PR effort to signal how pro-MeToo they are, despite having covered up for actual predatory scumbags.…
/r/MensRights12/06/18 12:24 AM
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