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| 2 | You shouldn't bother getting married or having kids if you are primarily attracted to 18-21 year old's."It's still true lower body counts tend to have less divorce" I'd actually argue that this is less about the body count itself and has pretty heavy correlations with other factors, like religion and the role marriage plays there and how divorce is viewed/shamed. This is especially true because the biggest example of what you're saying is when it comes to virginity. Virgin brides are significantly more likely to be religious people. The other factor usually explained in this research is about chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 08:44 PM |
| 2 | You shouldn't bother getting married or having kids if you are primarily attracted to 18-21 year old's.100% It's kind of sad when you see women who buy into the rhetoric on these manosphere podcasts. They aren't exercising critical thinking during the bulk of the debates or don't want to challenge the men. Then one of the guys talks about marriage being a bad idea or how he wouldn't take care of a child from a woman he doesn't like and the shocking takes kind of semi-jolt them awake and they're like, "whoa, what?" Some of these women who buy into these ideas on these podcasts think that these guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 08:06 PM |
| 11 | You shouldn't bother getting married or having kids if you are primarily attracted to 18-21 year old's.Wrong. Not in the United States anyway. Couples where they’re both young at marriage have higher divorce rates than couples in late 20s to mid 30s range, which is the best age range when it comes to marriage/low divorce rates. The lowest divorce rates by age gap are people with one year apart - the wider the age gap, the higher the likelihood of divorce. Once you start getting to 10 years apart, the likelihood of divorce is very significant compared to couples with small age gaps, and by 20 year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 11:50 AM |
| 1 | "just date women your own age" is harder than you thinkSingle women in that age range are only rare if you live in rural or maybe suburban areas. I’ve lived in multiple cities and never noticed a shortage of single women in that age range. Maybe country also matters as well - I’m American. Where are you from? Also education and class/social circles also probably matter here as well. Men from back in high school or college? Now I’m really interested in where you’re from. The major cities aren’t like this at all. I don’t think this is true unless he’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/23 11:39 AM |
| 3 | Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false?They're trash and ridicule anything women struggle with on that show. They're usually dripping in bitterness and misogyny, on top of being uneducated and struggling with logical reasoning, as is much of the manosphere. I hate-watch that show often and I doubt it will even shock me at this point tbh. Will watch later though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you believe/know/think that your grandmothers have never loved your grandfathers?That's just historical fact though. Most marriages were not initially based on love in human history. Marriage has been largely about property, land, wealth, family, and survival for the woman. Any basic history class can teach this, it's not hidden information. The fewer rights women have, the more they will stay in relationships that they would have exited if they could do so safely and without crippling social shame. Asking whether or not those women never loved their partners is kind of miss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:33 PM |
| 4 | Women's rights Vs. Women's responsibilitiesThere are none. People define their own relationships and what they're looking for and can offer one another. I know that makes antifeminists uncomfortable, but that's what happens when you can't control everyone and shove your conservative beliefs down other people's throats, at least for now. Women's rights have nothing to do with what men owe them in relationships beyond abuse and things that violate their rights. Outside of rights being violated, no one man owes any woman anything either - h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 10:16 PM |
| – | Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular womenlol I'm glad you acknowledge reality. Thank you. I hope some of your bros can catch up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 11:09 PM |
| – | Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular womenAh, I see. But here's the thing though - a lot of guys don't understand this, especially when it comes to overweight girls. Guys online here will talk about how we're struggling to get laid and the opposite is true in my experience. It depends on the girl, of course, but the same is true for thin girls. You probably haven't noticed this, but I have. The logic often goes "no guys want to sleep with them, they get no attention, so xyz" or some dumb version of this. So while you think no one would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:56 PM |
| – | CMV : Women are so militant and unforgiving with guys they're dating because they’re almost 100 percent confident “their perfect man” is waiting for them in the futureThis could be true, even if they don't realize it. By alone, I'd mean single though, not literally alone. Research shows women take a hit on mental health in marriage, while men benefit in terms of mental health. Women have higher rates of depression in relationships apparently, while the opposite is true for men. Elderly widows are happier once single again, etc. There are a lot of factors that go into this really, but I think many women have closer friendships/relationships outside of relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:19 PM |
| – | CMV : Women are so militant and unforgiving with guys they're dating because they’re almost 100 percent confident “their perfect man” is waiting for them in the futureMen also ditch women they see as "not her." I think everyone does this, friend...And the more options you believe you have, the pickier you will be probably. But also I think beyond pickiness, if it just doesn't feel good/right, it just isn't going to work. It doesn't matter if *you think* the reasons are small or that he "hasn't done anything wrong." It's her choice, her hunt. Women could do the same thing for any given guy deciding a woman isn't the right match for him. It's also the type of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 10:14 PM |
| – | Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular womenI'm confused - what does this have to do with my post? Thanks for sharing, I guess lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/23 09:48 PM |
| 13 | Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular womenI agree. I’m overweight and almost all of the men who approached me while I was single were not fat. My bf is overweight and losing weight right now, but he was like only the second bigger guy I had gone on a first date with and one of a small handful of guys who tried to talk to me who were bigger. I think it’s definitely a matter of the guys who are most confident will approach more and those men are usually the more conventionally attractive and not overweight. The guys who approached me in p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 01:52 PM |
| 14 | Obesity has absolutely nuked the chance to go on a date with even regular womenThank you for saying real shit. I’m a fat girl who has dated mostly non-fat guys but finally settled into a relationship with a guy who is also in the obese category technically (he’s tall though so looks different on everyone, I’m short/average). I couldn’t be happier with him, and I was pursued by multiple non-overweight guys. My slim/fit friends are definitely out there and most are dating men who are also slim to fit. I know slim to fit guys who date slim to fit women. They’re definitely out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Where have all the good men gone?This usually doesn’t happen here in the USA. Most men can’t afford to support entire families comfortably unless they live in rural areas or affordable suburbs. This isn’t 1950. Economics is a whole different ball game, especially in cities where most people live. But in other countries and cultures, maybe. Ambitious career women usually keep their careers until retirement. Aside from being fulfilled from work and accomplishments and not wanting to be a homemaker, it literally is the difference … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 11:59 AM |
| 2 | Where have all the good men gone?I think dudes should be authentic and live as they want to live for themselves and then find women who are compatible with those lifestyles. It's odd to me that he had to weigh anything, as you shouldn't be performing an entire lifestyle and value system just to get women. I hope he focuses on doing what makes him happy and sane, but I still think it could be worth talking to a therapist about that kind of drastic change. But maybe he learned that lesson, and if he did, I guess that's a good thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:52 AM |
| 7 | Where have all the good men gone?Stats and facts matter to me, not your feelings about feminism. According to facts, boss bitches are not the ones struggling most to get and stay married. It's the chicks on the opposite end of the spectrum who are struggling most and the gap widens over time. You would need to produce credible, objective data to prove otherwise. These trends have been going on for decades according to research (as the articles explain) - there's nothing I've seen from credible sources that would even imply such… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:44 AM |
| 3 | Where have all the good men gone?I think boss bitch means different things to some people here I guess. Women use the word bitch as an empowering slang term a lot, so for us things like boss bitch, bad bitch, "I'm that bitch" don't literally mean the negative, sexist defintion of the word. It's more a way of reclaiming the word. I've never heard boss bitch used a negative term in my real world context - only from red pill dudes online, so... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:26 AM |
| 2 | Where have all the good men gone?It's a red flag if she wants someone ambitious. It was a red flag for me, but not to everyone. My friend is dating a plumber and he's nowhere near as financially successful or ambitious as my bf. He's a great guy and so thoughtful and kind. I love his love for her. The red flag is the incompatibility and the inability to do things for yourself. The original commenter said he gave up multiple things just because he hadn't found a woman. This sounds to me like someone who was doing a lot just to g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Where have all the good men gone?This makes no sense to me. "Boss bitch" stage is more likely in the 30s and 40s because she's more likely to be even more successful then. Your 20s is largely when you're just starting your career and building experience. Boss bitch to me just means someone who is experienced, confident, successful in what they do and about their business / career-minded. I suppose it can also mean someone aspiring for success as well. I take it that it means something different to you. Either way, that's irrele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Passport IreYeah, I don't think most of us care about how Indian society views Americans, but I suppose it's good to hear a real perspective. Lol And I have zero idea what their families are like in your caste system, as we don't think of indians as high or low caste. Personally, I dated an Indian guy who was interested in me for a long-term relationship, but he wasn't my type in the end. None of these men are poor at all btw, and that's the thing that matters here in the USA. The Indian guy I personally da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 08:28 AM |
| 4 | Where have all the good men gone?I know these are the red pill talking points but I honestly wish you all did actual research on reality. The career oriented, educated women are more likely to get married in the first place these days and the least likely to get divorced. Uneducated women with no career or lower income are less likely to get married and more likely to get divorced. Couples who marry young are more likely to get divorced than those who marry older, up to a point, and age gap couples have extremely high divorce r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 05:16 AM |
| 7 | Where have all the good men gone?So you think genuine ambition is a trait more common in women then? That's interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 05:02 AM |
| -2 | Where have all the good men gone?Something about giving up many things just because you're single seems like a red flag for me. I think the preference is for men who are ambitious or goal oriented for themselves, as a part of who they are and their character, not men who purely do it just to impress or get women. I'd be skeptical about that. In any case, dating can be challenging for everyone. Women get ghosted and have conversations that seemed to go well but just didn't go anywhere. No doubt that women have more access to sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Passport IreI cited statistics so have already disproven your argument that this is how all foreign men feel. Trust me, American women have our fair share of stereotypes about men from all countries. I don't need to be mean or racist, but American women also have stereotypes about Indian men. Ignorant people are everywhere, not just in India. This goes both ways. I have had American friends married to Indian men, so what you're saying definitely isn't true for everyone, but Asian men generally aren't the hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 04:21 AM |
| 5 | Where have all the good men gone?I'll also add that my own experience mirrors this. I wasn't really interested in dating when I was that young though - I focused on education, friends, self development, travel, etc. But I had fear of intimacy issues a bit too. Anyway, I'm in a great relationship with a very successful man who is highly ambitious imo and a top earner. We're only one year apart, both in our 30s. He's also respectful, not conservative and respects women, etc. I didn't have to date too long to find him and before I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 12:26 AM |
| 8 | Where have all the good men gone?I personally think this goes back to the fact that dating gets better for women as we get older, contrary to popular red pill ideas. At least in Western countries, specifically here in the USA. I also have only lived in cities here, not conservative areas. Middle class marriages are actually disappearing and have been for the last 40 years or something. The more educated a woman (or man) is, the more likely she is to get married and less likely to get divorced. Couples who get married in their o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 11:39 PM |
| 20 | How does one "Work on their personality"Depends on what you need to work on. Sometimes there may not be that much you can do, or that you'd be likely to do to change, like in the case of some personality disorders. But aside from that: - Therapy is a great resource for everyone. There are usually childhood trauma issues you wouldn't expect that affect who you're attracted to, how you connect and form attachments, etc. as well as coping mechanisms that no longer serve you and hinder connections with other people. Therapy, therapy, ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 11:05 PM |
| 0 | "Men are allowed to have preferences, just don't be rude about it" Is A LieIt's technically not a lie, because people are going to have preferences whether or not society approves of them. But the problem could also be that sexist ideas are going to be perceived as rude, harmful, etc. It sounds like you don't like when people analyze the reasoning behind your preferences and call out your problematic views. This is common among the red pill camp because so much of your views are based on poor reasoning and minimal evidence. Personally, I came to many of my views partly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 10:54 PM |
| 0 | Passport IreHoney, I literally do this in my sleep. It's called strong logical reasoning and debate skills and education. That's cute though. You shouldn't be threatened by facts, data, and credible research. If you are, probably worth it to question your own psychology. Toodles! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 10:44 PM |
| 4 | Passport IreI was a female expat and several of my friends have also traveled abroad and I've almost never heard of that happening lolol Where did you hear that? Foreign men flirt with American women like crazy, especially in European countries and Latin American countries. Asian socities tend to be more conservative, but my friends who have gone there have also not struggled to date, depends on the person and then country though. India is different than dating in South Korea. Not too sure about African cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Passport IreYou're cherry picking what I said, try harder I said you don't see content about women hating men as a reason to travel abroad and find other men. And you definitely don't see it as much. There's a reason there's no direct equivalent for Passport Bros that we can name quickly as the same thing - women traveling abroad to find husbands and talking all damn day about it on podcasts and YouTube. Disproportionately an American Man thing to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 04:50 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things costYeah I swore this was a rant/vent, but maybe I was wrong lol I actually don't think young women necessarily have the best options, but they can often have flings with rich men looking for young girls, if they're in the right space, for sure. But 1000% - red pill ideology basically is breeding ground for gold diggers. It's ironic to hear some of these men complaining about that. Your whole belief system is aligned with the gold digger. I support women in this lifestyle being gold diggers though. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 04:33 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things costOh okay, kind of sounded like it lol Then I'd reiterate my post and that your sample size most likely focuses on / filters for very specific types of women beyond just pretty, which can be a subjective label on its own tbh. You're focused on women who fit your ideology of what high value woman means, and that's probably how the women you value behave/act/see the world at the moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 04:28 AM |
| 5 | Passport IreMy first guess would be that young girls are sex trafficked to foreign grown men far more than the other way around. It's a human rights issue and a common one. Also, women don't make content about hating everything about American men and how all American women should leave the states before they go do it. My friends and I went abroad to live in Europe for a year. Some went on to South Korea and China, etc. after that. American men didn't come up one second as a topic of frustration before we we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 09:51 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Pretty women don’t even understand the value of money or how much things costBut if these are the women you want, then what's the problem? The ideology in these parts generally encourages men to date the youngest, hottest girls with the least experience and no interest in careers or education, who value wealthy men and don't mind their sexist bs. This cocktail is highly likely to produce the kinds of women you're describing. So what's the problem? If your ideology says women are masculine for pursing education and careers and feminine women don't bother with that, plus g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 09:31 PM |
| 6 | Age gaps don't matter. Attraction does.Wrong - age gaps have an astronomically higher divorce rate in the USA, compared to couples with small or no age gap differences. Couples with one year age gap difference have the lowest rates of divorce. So for anyone who wants a marriage that actually lasts, or a relationship that even approaches possibility of marriage and kid, age gaps aren't a great way to go. Some couples make it work though. Exceptions don't override probability and statistics though, and its a gamble if you value somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 05:48 PM |
| 9 | Change my View : Men have a way more calculated and performance oriented Dating Strategy then Women.I don't really agree with the manosphere's definition of HVM and I know I don't fit their definition of HVW. Looking at many podcasts and who they praise as their models of who "high value men" are and the ways they talk about and to women has been a clear indication that my values and theirs don't line up at all, not just in who I am as a woman, but in terms of the men they find most attractive. Most of my friends wouldn't find these men desirable either unless they were just gold diggers. (No … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/23 04:34 PM |
| 1 | The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex!That's definitely true, although, even if you are conventionally less attractive, you could still have an audience that's interested in you. There are so many people in the world who like different things or are open. I think shifting perspective to thoughts and ideas that actually contribute to your productivity, well being, and happiness is important. The facts are what they are, but a lot has to do with how we approach reality. That doesn't mean we don't acknowledge differences in privilege. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 04:45 PM |
| 3 | Both sides are offering a fantasy.You know it's really interesting because the more I learn about red pill ideology, the more divorced from reality I think its proponents are. It's possible that it depends on where you live. As an American living in one of the largest cities and who has traveled a bit, lived abroad in Europe for a while, and lived in another smaller American city, it seems like delusion. The amount of truth I encounter in the red pill manosphere is extremely minimal. They like take small bits of truth and then b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…Yeah, and the key to any kind of dating is making sure you find the right match for you. I'm curious, do you hold the same standard to domestic things though? As in, why should a woman do most of the cooking and cleaning because you're not a child as well and that you should be cooking and cleaning an equal amount as she would be in a relationship? And going down on her an equal amount? lol Do you believe that women shouldn't put in more effort into their appearance than you do as well and that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't interested in becoming fathers because we have basically no rights when it comes to fatherhoodThe majority of divorced or single fathers do not pay child support and many (possibly most) don't pay it in full when it is mandated. Many men are known to literally hide their money to avoid supporting their children. Women are more likely to have primary child custody on one income with no child support and single mothers are significantly more likely to be poor than single fathers because of this. So if anyone has a huge issue to complain about, it's women. This reflects the opinions of a mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…But then I don’t think it’s this transactional thing either. I think we’re both trying to make each other feel good and navigate meeting needs and considering our own boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Modern women who want to be treated traditionally…First, you’re definitely entitled to date whomever you want to. None of us owe anyone dates! Personally, I am the blend you’ve mentioned. It’s kind of funny because I wouldn’t consciously view myself as traditional, but I get what you mean. When I was single and dating, I would defer to the man on whether or not he wanted to split the bill. I didn’t care but I suppose his choice did affect me in some ways. When I was a very young feminist, not splitting the bill was unthinkable. My views have ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Women's attraction is overrated by menAlso, who is “women”? And what are we even talking about here? Being less attracted sexually to anyone when they’re crying is probably a thing, but less attracted overall? That depends on the person and type of woman you’re pursuing. Outside of excessive crying, I think plenty of women would view it as a positive. My bf has teared up over his fathers death and it’s a positive thing to me. That’s an act of vulnerability, which we want in healthy relationships and it’s a sign that he trusts me and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:31 AM |
| 1 | Of the guys that you have been with, what percentage were Chads ?Oh well then I don’t think I’ve been with anyone like that, no lol And even some frat adjacent guys I’ve had a connection with weren’t dumb or any of the other things you said Then again, people don’t always show you all sides so 🤷🏻♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:21 AM |
| 2 | Do older women have less value in the dating market than younger ones ?Imo, dating gets better in your 30s - I could include late 20s here as well. I think dating as a woman in a major liberal city in your 30s is arguably better than dating in your early 20s for several reasons. I think this myth of the wall is mostly true in more conservative areas and countries with overtly patriarchal and old fashioned views. Like in at least one Asian country, I've heard it's really hard for women to find relationships or marriage at 30. I can't remember which one though. They … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Of the guys that you have been with, what percentage were Chads ?So Chad is just "conventionally attractive" or perfect? There's a difference there, a range. Assuming you mean the hottest of the good looking men, by society's definition of perfection... Actually, I've been pursued by way more "chad" types than I actually accepted. I've always been a plus size girl, and when I was younger I was too insecure with my body and also afraid of relationships fucking with my sanity, but got approached by conventionally hot men. I was dodging men like Neo dodges bulle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 06:35 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Telling unsuccesful men that the young women in impoverished countries only want them for their money is pointless, these men believe that women their age in their country are the same. And we can't blame them.These men are often the ones who trash and try to tear down women online. If they fit this category, then my sympathy only goes so far. If he spends his time talking about the wall, women's SMV, men being superior, and how Western women are trash and don't make good partners, then why on earth should any of us care about how they feel about this reality being highlighted? I'm very empathetic by nature, but that's not unconditional. Blatant sexists and people out to degrade women due to their bit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 05:37 PM |
| 2 | QuestionThe concept of chivalry dates back to old European society and the behavior of gentlemen and knighthood. They wouldn’t have created female or women’s chivalry as a concept, as that would have seemed weird to them. The idea was that men, specifically knights, should take care of people who are more vulnerable and weaker. Women were viewed as unequal and weak, so the idea of female chivalry, to my knowledge, was never created. Women’s conduct was policed in other ways and I suppose ladies specific… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 01:01 PM |
| 1 | If you had a 48 year old husband, unemployed and had 50K in IRA savings, would you divorce him?This isn’t a realistic question for me. I would have learned about his financial situation long before I married him, unless he lied blatantly to me and then that’s a whole other issue. And it depends on the quality of the relationship otherwise and whether not he’s willingly to do what it takes to bring in more income. 48 is still young enough to work. Idk how that works with pension income but we would have to discuss a plan. But again, I wouldn’t jump into a marriage without understanding wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 09:49 AM |
| 1 | People who brag or say that coming from a broken or dysfunctional home made them stronger are extremely laughable and should not be taken seriously.People who laugh at things like this are truly disturbing and should be psychologically evaluated and likely struggle with socialization to some extent because the lack empathy for other people is glaringly obvious. Seek help, because you definitely need it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 09:44 AM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 09:39 AM |
| 8 | Men are judged for "getting" women. Women don't "get" men.Omg that’s so true. It’s like a feeling and you can just tell 😂 they will try and make it about their looks or women being shallow but even how their personalities come across - you can just tell there’s way more to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 01:45 PM |
| 2 | The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race.Literally. These people either don't get out or live in the middle of nowhere. In the cities I've lived in, so many dudes in tech or engineering are far from sexless nerds who stay at home. But also, plenty of nerds do fine with women. My bf is a huge nerd and has slept with way more people than I have and will tell you that he does well with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:12 AM |
| 1 | The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race.I've known engineers who are fuck boys. These guys are delusional. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 11:09 AM |
| 1 | i truly believe most women are oblivious to how attractive thier partners are, and women value being competent or the illusion of being competentWhat? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race.Not sure what this has to do with the comment I made, which was in response to the accusation that another poster was attacking someone because they highlighted the source and her views/bias/orientation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 02:09 AM |
| 13 | The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race.Acknowledging the beliefs, bias, and reputation of a person = attacking? lol ok But also, sources do matter. This is a basic thing you learn in any kind of academic research. Even if you like an idea, others can and should analyze your sources as well for context. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:59 AM |
| 0 | Why haven't women built their own independent, semi autonomous female utopia?I mean, I think having some spaces like that could be a good idea, but most of us don't want to live without men. We feminists want men to acknowledge and respect women as equals and support our fight for a better world. We want men to be open to understanding the power structures that both favor and harm men in different ways and act as allies with us in pushing forward to a better society for the next generation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:35 AM |
| – | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startSays who? Plenty of women have casual sex and don't get hurt or even want anything from the hot guy. I've also done this. And none of that excuses this gross mindset that people shouldn't feel great about themselves so that they're easy targets for unwanted men. That's the real ugly person here - someone who would advocate that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 02:04 AM |
| 2 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startYup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:54 PM |
| 2 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startI think without patriarchal control, women and children probably benefit from polygamy. Think of how many wives and children billionaires and millionaires could have? Even some men who have around 500k in income in lower cost areas could have a few wives that would benefit on a lower tier level. Those women and their children would gain a lot financially and in terms of quality of life and legacy, social status. I think average men are the only ones who really lose out. Women lose when polygamy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:49 PM |
| 0 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the start1.This thread is about looks and bodies and attractiveness. And I highly doubt these men commenting want the women who don't have time for them to "improve themselves" in any way because that would remove them further from their dating prospects. Are you reading the thread or singling out random lines to distort context and just have something to say? I actually disagree with this. Feeling good about yourself is more likely to lead to certain improvements. Feeling bad about yourself is pretty we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:41 PM |
| -1 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startAnd the idea that these attitudes and issues aren't showing up some way in how they interact with women, contributing to their dating prospects, is beyond comical. This is some "really really need therapy asap to work through some shit" stuff. Therapy is great - we all need some therapy sometimes, please don't be afraid to seek help because... 😅 Good lord. Honestly, I hope none of the men who feel this way get any action until they work through this shit. I'm just seeing so much emotional abuse … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:18 PM |
| 0 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startWho's delusional here though? If the women we're talking about are enjoying the casual sex they want to have and finding relationships that make them happy, then where's the delusion? The reality is that very few women are delusional about social concepts of attractiveness. We all grew up knowing who was viewed as hot and who wasn't. What we have is a movement where we consider mental health and body image and people are choosing to be comfortable and happy with themselves, and unfortunately for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:06 PM |
| 4 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startExactly. That's just gross. And the complete disregard for how women struggle when they don't have healthy body image and think highly of themselves. These dudes want women to struggle internally with who they are so they can get a chance to fuck. Ugh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 03:46 PM |
| 2 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startMore lies and deflection. There's something mentally off color about yourself if you want to actively see people less happy with how they feel about their bodies and how they look. This has nothing to do with "life isn't just about that." It's none of your business what anyone else's life is about. This conversation is about a bunch of bitter men saying women shouldn't be supported to have healthy body image and be happy with themselves. Literally men are saying here that they wished women viewe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 03:41 PM |
| 2 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startOh, please. This isn't a health forum and I highly doubt you're any kind of educated health professional with credentials. Become a medical scientist if your goal is to solve the obesity crisis. Making people feel like shit about themselves doesn't do anything positive. That just makes you an asshole. Back to the actual conversation and not your thinly veiled lie of concern for peoples health and obvious ignorance, which literally have nothing to do with this thread/conversation/comment to which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 03:34 PM |
| 4 | Ladies, how doe attraction feel like to you?Annoying and like a mosquito itch? Uh that's definitely not how I would describe it for me. I describe it as excitement, anticipation, anxiety, curiosity, and doing way too much. Once I'm in a serious relationship, it transcends some of that (though not completely) and comfort comes in, alongside slow moving joy and a deeper sense of connection. But unlike women who are asexual or demisexual specifically, I am purely sexually attracted to a lot of men (and women, but it's kind of different betwe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 07:59 AM |
| 2 | Every man pays for sex in one way or another.Most men also like women for how they make them feel and what women do for them, as well as how access to women makes them look and access to sex being fun. Men aren't angels who see and value women unconditionally without any self-interest on average lolol Come on people, stop the foolishness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 07:42 AM |
| 3 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startWhat? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 07:39 AM |
| 1 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startThe idea that 80% of men are going without any dates, if that's your implication, is the height of delusion. Lmaoooo You clearly don't go outside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 07:12 AM |
| 8 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startBut that's their business though. I'm sure you think men are entitled to their preferences, whatever they may be. The same should go for women. Let that individual woman decide and experience for herself whether or not her preferences are working for her. I'm sure she can figure her own life out for herself. Let her get advice from more appropriate parties when she seeks it, as opening ideas of potential mates will always be one possible solution. I think a lot of men are being dishonest because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 07:10 AM |
| 6 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startThis is why some say human monogamy was created for men not women. Kind of interesting to think about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 06:53 AM |
| 11 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startBut this is even weirder though. Why would you be bothered by people loving themselves and thinking highly of themselves? That's like oddly sadistic and fucked up. You want people to "know their place," as in think they're not attractive enough to date someone else? You don't think that seems...really unhealthy and mean? Controlling? Why isn't it okay for people to think they're hot even if YOU don't, even if society doesn't? I'll never be able to relate to this. I want everyone to feel amazing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 06:42 AM |
| 1 | When does dating market decline for men?I kind of feel like dating in your 30s is better than your 20s, but that's from a woman's perspective in city contexts in the USA and thinking with a more quality vs quantity mindset. I don't know that there is one specific time overall. I'm sure such a generality could be found with credible data, but usually people are just giving their opinions here. I think one of the biggest factors for men in their 30s and 40s will be time. If they have young kids from separated or divorced relationships a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 06:33 AM |
| 2 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outThe delusion is definitely incredibly strong with this crowd. I agree. I think looks matter to a lot of women, but I have often thought that men are less attractive than their partners. And I agree - I think the most bitter men online complaining here lack the social skills, emotional intelligence, style, swagger, respect, and confidence that many men do have. They lack these skills and keep approaching success with women from the wrong angle (if they're approaching at all) and can't get it to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outThat's not the premise behind that quote at all. The premise is that most women do put in a lot of work to show up the way they do in society. Whether or not a minority of women would be considered hot while having no investment in their appearance or social skills/status at all is another story. It still stands that what could be possible for a minority is not the same as what is necessary for the majority of people. And it still stands that whether or not you think they need to, society beats … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 10:47 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outAbsolutely. I see nothing but misogyny in it. They have no empathy, compassion, or even sympathy for what women go through, basically try to erase the struggles of women who grow up being told they're ugly and don't seek to learn about what women experience. When you talk to this types of men they respond with defense because they refuse to believe women go through all this simply because they're struggling too. It's bitterness, jealousy, and misogyny combined and I have zero tolerance for any o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outI'm more of a balance and "do it for yourself and accept yourself" gal but not when they're trying it in these comments lol Women put SO much effort into their appearance. Even women they don't find attractive may be doing the most to take care of skim and anti-age and shit, trying to lose weight, have eating disorders and hate themselves, etc. Don't whine to me about men having to work on their appearance to get women they find attractive. And then argue that men have to do more for their looks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 06:29 PM |
| 2 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outYeah this is the lack of self-awareness that strikes me as odd. Like you must understand that women can feel the same? Unless you feel entitled to the woman you want and you're so coddled that the idea that Ms hottie doesn't want you feels unfair because that's your pussy to conquer. It's ridiculous lol They're in here lying too. I've said multiple times that the least attractive women would date them. They're like well Ms skinny fat and has acne and is plain or fat doesn't want me. I'm like no … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 06:25 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outOr just date who you want 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 06:19 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outWhat's the false premise exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareSo I provided evidence from credible legal sources that confirm that concealing resources does happen. I've provided credible, objective evidence, so I can't really accept an anecdote as a counter to that. Thanks for sharing your experiences and opinions though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 06:13 PM |
| 3 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outThat happens as well! I've seen modelesque women dating guys I wouldn't date personally, whether that's because of their looks or personality. I've seen a lot of conventionally hot women in dysfunctional relationships. And likewise, not every guy is interested in every hot girl. All kinds makeing the globe spin. Walk outside today everyone 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outNot sure what quoting me proves here but mmk. I was responding to your point that these women aren't attracted to their partners just because they don't match a conventional fantasy. This is false. Not sure what your first point is here so loving on to the second - I've never seen any evidence anywhere that shows men don't care at all about how their women look and that most men will take anyone. Most men I know definitely do not feel that way. And if that were true, we wouldn't have the majorit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 05:56 PM |
| 5 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareI assume you mean criminal vs civil? I mean, she has a law suit now, so I think we're past the point of police involvement. I think arrests are only likely/possible if they're called to the scene for abuse. I don't think police can go arrest him for abuse charges retroactively after years unless she has compelling evidence, and he'd be able to pay the bail if they did anyway. They've been separated for years from what I can tell, so unless she documented the abuse carefully, it's now down to a h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 04:44 PM |
| 9 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareCan't tell if this is serious or not. It's only sus if you don't respect women, care about women's abuse, or understand literally anything about how abuse works. I'd encourage you to educate yourself, but I know you won't. The police do next to nothing about abuse, first of all, and secondly, abuse victims often stay with their abusers for a time, especially if they have no money/job, are homemakers with rich husbands who can pay people to do anything to you and/ or just get away with it (like m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 04:30 PM |
| 3 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareFrom what she told me, his lawyer and people who harassed her were from/involved with MRA circles and so is he. I don't live on reddit and she definitely doesn't either. Why would r/mensrights matter? These men exist and meet up, socialize in real life offline too lol He's conservative overall. And yeah, I'm not a fan of MRA groups either, but I wouldn't have said it if she hadn't explained that they were a part the MRA circle. Why are you bothered by women's accounts of abuse? Have you question… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 04:24 PM |
| 6 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareWhat's not realistic about being harassed online? Have you never heard of cyber bullying? What's not realistic? And from what I've heard, other people in the office have witnessed him harassing her and coming to try to convince our boss that she was a bad person and that's he's innocent. Enough people have observed his behavior that it seems unlikely to be a lie at this point. Also why would she lie? Who would leave a rich husband who wants to pay for everything and take care of you if he's a go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outStrongly disagree. And that doesn't make any sense either. Being stressed to obsess over your looks is a lived experience. Lmao if it's not a lived experience, then no stressing happened at all. And who's not included in society? Most men are doing fine with being included in society. I get the feeling you're talking about an extreme minority of men, and there are extreme minorities of women who also feel excluded from society as well, even if there are fewer of them (and we don't actually know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 03:47 PM |
| 5 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareIf that's your response when a woman says she's been abused to this degree, then we're just different types people at a fundamental level. Almost everything is heresay when you're talking to people. And if your response to random women telling you their husbands have abused them is "that's heresay," then again, different types of folks clearly 😂 But that really has nothing to do with my post. My post includes sources that counter in fact (not heresay) what the other poster said. He argued that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 03:45 PM |
| 6 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareI didn't ask her as many probing questions because everyone knows her situation and I didn't want to be rude. She probably wouldn't have minded and I think she did explain this to me - I just don't remember. However, I think you can drag divorce cases out for a while. He's definitely trying to avoid paying alimony as long as possible. I don't think any of my friends or colleagues who have been divorced have ever had quick divorces, but that's a small sample size. And I'm sure her situation is no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 10:09 AM |
| 52 | Here is why traditional women/wives are becoming more and more rareAbsolutely. My coworker's husband has been dragging their divorce case out for years so he doesn't have to pay alimony or child support. And he's rich - was love bombing her with all expenses paid trips when they were dating before he turned on her and started beating her ass. He was controlling and she had to sneak out to college classes to work on a degree that she still has yet to finish. He got a bunch of MRA types to harass her, so now she can't use social media regularly anymore and he has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 11:39 PM |
| 3 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outSome of these women aren't online, so I would rethink not approaching people in person. Probably best to do it in a situation where you're socializing over shared interests or some common experience. If a guy is swiping anyone, he probably hasn't put enough effort into his profile, I'm betting. But you didn't say single match, you said single date, which opens up another can of worms about how he's talking to the women he matches with, what are his digital social skills like. A match doesn't ent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 09:31 PM |
| 6 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outI actually didn't say that at all. Where did I say that women who are unattractive are not attracted to men in their leagues? Please quote me. Even the "ugly" men want the hot girl. Wanting and actually having a high standard because you expect to acquire are two different things. Wanting one thing doesn't mean you can't want another thing either. I didn't say "plain" lol I said *least attractive*. Lots of avoiding that phrase, I notice. Plain is not what I'm talking about. But sure, sometimes v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 09:23 PM |
| 4 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outI think you should leave it up to women to figure out how well we understand the difference between casual sex and relationships lol I've never had casual sex with a guy and expected it to turn into a relationship, even if I liked him. And a lot of hot women have that same experience, so this isn't really limited to any one group of women. My friend is conventionally very attractive and fell hard for a guy who didn't want to date her but wanted her to travel states away for his dick. And she did… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 09:14 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outI think there are some things missing in translation here. I said the *least* conventionally attractive women, not just conventionally attractive in some way. I mean women who are incontrovertibly unfortunate and it would be hard to fix it. They're often very lovely people and I know some from high school and they were married before the rest of us, and none of their husbands are conventionally attractive at all. Those women probably make excellent wives, from what I see from their personalities… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 08:57 PM |
| 5 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outIdk, ask all the women who are in relationships with and married to men who are not conventionally attractive. Do you go outside and socialize often? All kinds of people are out there in the world. Asking why would women do a thing that women do all the time is odd to me. Gives "I don't get out much" vibes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 08:45 PM |
| 4 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outEven fat women deal with the same messages. Being overweight doesn't mean you aren't socialized with the same pressures that all women are or that you don't invest a lot into your overall looks and social skills. My standard of attractive is irrelevant. I'm talking about social norms that are common in how girls and women are socialized. "So I don't get where you got your line of thinking that women are goddesses from tbh. " Your bitterness is showing, my dear. Where did I write that? "Women, re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Framing the Passport Bros as “predators”, “sex traffickers”, and “creeps” is absurd and reeks of bitterness & jealousy from American women.But why do you sound super bitter and jealous of women in this post ? I don't know who the passport bros are, but being a sex trafficker and sex tourist are very different than just going to another country and finding a partner you like. Let's not conflate the two - one side is illegal activity and not just women being "bitter and jealous." The other side is just two people meeting each other. I have lived abroad myself and enjoyed the men. To be honest, I don't think most American women care a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 06:53 PM |
| 2 | What are some examples of shit tests?Oh now I'm wondering if I've ever shit tested my bf hmmm Idk what people mean by shit test, but negging is very different from healthy banter in my opinion. I think testing can be a useful way of observing behavior, but it may become an ends vs means debate in my mind, depending on the context. I want healthy communication between my bf and I. So far, directly communicating my needs and what upsets me is how I go about things. If I choose not to speak up about my needs, I know that I need to. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 06:23 PM |
| 19 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outIt's kind of odd to see this written as a woman, because our looks and behavior are stressed from day one. Why do men find this like a surprising thing that most people don't just show up conventionally hot with no effort at all and have to have social skills? Also, there are plenty of women who are the least conventionally attractive who aren't looking for the same qualities (well, some are, depends on the woman) as the hottest women. I hope that's calculated into this take as well. As a man, y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 06:00 PM |
| 12 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outPlease speak that shit because these guys act as if there are no conventionally unattractive women who wouldn't date a guy who is unattractive by conventional standards as well. Make it make sense. We all know they're not fantasizing the least conventionally attractive women either. Please stop the bs. Don't complain about having to bust your ass to look better for access to women who often put a lot of emphasis on their looks as well. Like what are we even talking about here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 05:52 PM |
| 7 | Women Are Significantly More Likely To Lose Interest In Sex In Long Time Relationships In Spite Of Age, Relationship Satisfaction, Sexual Satisfaction, and Child Rearing Status.I agree. The second study seems more convincing, if it includes the explanation of relationship factors and quality of sex. A lot of men really struggle in these areas and women also need to be more assertive about what we need and want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:43 PM |
| 4 | Women Are Significantly More Likely To Lose Interest In Sex In Long Time Relationships In Spite Of Age, Relationship Satisfaction, Sexual Satisfaction, and Child Rearing Status.Yeah, women like sex with different men too, who would have guessed lol I was just talking to my housemate about this. I said now that I'm in a serious relationship, I have to make peace with all the dick I won't be having. I wasn't even especially over the top promiscuous (nothing wrong with that though), but I am very aware of the choice that I can't just do what I want now when it comes to men. He said men have it harder because of the need to spread your seed all over town and reproduce with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:39 PM |
| 1 | There are 50/50 male/female to hookup with each other but somehow there's a mass of men that are struggling but women are chilling. How does this make sense?So your question is just about hooking up? Okay, so my thoughts on that... I think this is the natural way of things, when men can't control women's reproduction and sexuality tbh. Women are far too selective to expect a 1:1 ratio of success and equal distribution. I also think we have significantly more access to sex for most of our lives than our male counterparts. I don't think that changes until like maybe 60s (if that), despite myths about women hitting a wall at 30. Bitter men comment abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/23 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsMen here are bitter and don’t believe this part of reality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsNot just masturbate though - it’s very easy to sleep with hot men as a far girl - I can speak to that first hand. Dating is trickier because men are conscious of how other men perceive them and care about that, but it’s not something that never happens. When I’m single, I can have all the tall hot dick I want really. I’m just picky about attitude and personality, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:06 AM |
| 2 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsI literally tried to explain that skinny, artsy guys with swagger specifically are a type for young women and a few guys here commented refusing to believe me and another woman. A lot of these guys are cute (so idk about shit hair, but that may be subjective). Tall and skinny was really popular when I was in college and still is tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:04 AM |
| 0 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsThere’s a lot of truth here lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsThick and curvy aren’t really terms used in medical science, so not sure how that’s relevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:00 AM |
| 1 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsIncorrect af Lolol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsIdk I’m a plus size woman I feel like I’ve seen a variety of sizes / shapes and looks for the movement on social media, in terms of influencers. I’ll say that midsize women have had to carve out their own space more often and don’t get as much representation I guess. I suppose the thought is they don’t need it as much, but there’s room for that too. I don’t really judge people as ugly like that for no reason or get upset over it Lolol But I have seen a variety of looks, but most are fat, as was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 07:58 AM |
| 0 | Men Now Face More Unrealistic Beauty StandardsNot true and “fat” is subjective, up to a certain point.There are entire cultures where thin women are body shamed and seen as less attractive, specifically in many black / African cultures and some Latino cultures. I’ve had so many African and Caribbean black friends who are thin say their family puts them down for being thin and the ideal is women who are heavier, curvier, thick. That doesn’t mean all heavy women, but the women who are praised in their cultures would be considered too big in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Do women care about the type of job you have?I definitely do, but not all women do. (My friends into astrology say this is my Capricorn coming out strong haha). I'd say money matters more than the specific job, unless it's something horrendous or that clashes with values. And that will vary from woman to woman. The first guy you described is my bf lolol For me, money is definitely not the only factor, and I have cut off some guys who had more money than I do for a variety of reasons that turned me off or clashed with my values. However, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 10:21 PM |
| 2 | If you are her type then it doesn't matter where you meet womenYes and no. Theoretically, yes, but it wouldn’t have been possible in most cases because my situation was internal - issues within myself that kept me afraid of getting hurt and vulnerability. I am bubbly and outgoing and friendly on the outside, so I don’t think any of them would have assumed that. One even blatantly made a joke after I turned him down that accused me of not liking his race even. None of that was true - it was about myself. So if they approached me years later when I was open a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/22 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?I’ve never heard that. Everyone I know considers cougar to be like older women. The 20s guys I know who had affairs or flings with older women generally didn’t think I was a cougar in my late 20s and playing around with younger men. They’d get annoyed at me saying I’m older actually. “That’s not even much older.” I’ve always heard it applied to like significantly older women, not like 5 years older. 40s and over, maybe late 30s for some people. One guy I knew would say he liked hooking up with “… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?It’s interesting because I usually say that I think bitter men and sexism come from a jealousy of women that many men seem to feel imo, about the access to sex. My dad once said he doesn’t get it because there are more women so wouldn’t men have the advantage in dating. He doesn’t agree that men have it harder, which is interesting. And for a man to say that I think really does kind of punctuate the different attitudes based on experience and access. My dad was one of the cool kids, socially int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Nah. I don’t agree that dating is easy for women, sorry. But yes, casual sex is easy for women to access. I don’t know many women who deny that. Some women really do struggle with it though. Not all women are the same, like I said before. I have heard some women say they don’t get any make attention, so it’s probably also true that some portion of women have a hard time. But I do think most women have easier access to sex. I think some women struggle with their confidence and self esteem or are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:42 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?He thinks you’re inventing negative traits known to be common among older men. Like what even is medical science? It’s not a thing here for this guy 😂 The denial here is too funny | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 02:35 PM |
| 10 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Honestly the elephant in the room. Erectile dysfunction and lack of stamina compared to younger men is probably a big part of why “cougars” are even a thing. Women’s sex drive often increases as fertility declines up to menopause. And many women still want sex after that, maybe a lot of it 😂 It even happens to some men in their 30s sadly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Oh wow, that experience is definitely useful to understanding what you would likely encounter. It’s one of the major reasons I couldn’t do it. I’m sorry you had to experience that, but I’m sure it has made you stronger and more prepared for this kind of thing. That does open up your capacity to handle that, and it sounds like you know exactly what you’re doing so I hope it works out for you! And if this connection is feeding you with the happiness and depth that you desire, I hope you have the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Yeah, the logical reasoning isn’t strong with this one. 😂 Sounds like thinking with his emotions and trying to prove something he thinks or wants to be true for some reason. Men do that a lot online tbh, despite the myth about them being more logical. But honestly I can kind of empathize with him. His basis for interacting and understanding young women seems to be the club/bar scene (and probably not all bar and club scenes, otherwise I feel like he would have seen what we’re explaining already)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Yeah that’s one of the reasons I never wanted to date older men, among many other things. Even at 18, I didn’t like how I’d hear them talk about older women, especially online. Of course, that’s not all of them, but was enough for me to nope out of that option. But that aside, it’s weird that he won’t listen to women about what many women find attractive. It’s even weirder that he literally has celebrity examples that are wildly popular with women and still doesn’t believe it. It’s like ignoring… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying! Older men can sometimes definitely be more mature, for sure. Even guys our age are still getting it together sometimes it seems 😂🥲 I guess for me the cons outweigh the pros, but I definitely understand you on the maturity. I think I’d probably only date much older if he were very wealthy in addition to having that emotional intelligence. I’m just curious - are you at all concerned about the cons of what life would be like long term with him, especially with a bab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Damn girl - that is older lol More for you then! Is that just for sex Or relationships too? I was just talking to two of my coworkers (older women) who also love older men. I’ve just never been seriously into it beyond fap fantasies occasionally. I considered it once or twice but never really serious about it. My bf and I are one year apart. Kind of similar to my parents actually. They’re the same age most of the year except 2 months. My bf I are the same age for a few weeks. I’m sure that may h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 09:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Exactly. There’s a reason some of these men aren’t that successful with women and it kind of shows when you speak to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 08:56 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Lol imagine having to explain to a man that you and many women you know find something attractive and then him telling you, “nah women don’t like that” 😂 It’s comedy at this point 🤡 Like I was just in my 20s a few years ago and have friends in their 20s. Shit doesn’t change that fast 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 08:50 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Lol it’s okay if you don’t want to hear or accept realities that don’t match your observations. I’m explaining a type that was popular among young people and probably still is. That doesn’t mean other types aren’t even more popular, but it does mean a lot of women would choose the opposite of what you think is a given. While it definitely is true that different types of women are drawn to different things, many would still go for the skinny out of shape guys with swagger in their 20s over the fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 06:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Nope - I answered how I wanted to answer. You can take it or leave it, that’s fine. I was just adding context. Again, take it or leave it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Would you rather have casual sex with an average in his 20's, or a fit, handsome man in his 40's?Whoever I like most, but I’m 32 and usually feel closer in proximity with men in their late 20s than I would with men in their 40s and definitely 50s. Early to mid 30s is an interesting in-between age. I was into a 27 year old a little while ago, but felt a 45 year old would be too old for a relationship. You specified casual sex, but to be honest I might still filter the same way. It’s also interesting that you linked Michael Cera - a lot of us were into him when I was younger. The whole skinny… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?I wasn’t, but I understand that you’re either uneducated or in denial. It’s on brand, so that’s okay. Again, I wish you a good night - have a good one :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?No, we definitely won’t see eye to eye. I’m not incorrect at all actually, but I’ll also just thank you for the chat. Have a great night out there! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?I’m not you though. It’s obvious we don’t share the same values lol You’re entitled to your feelings. Patriarchy is largely based on controlling women’s reproduction and sexual behavior, as well as being against LGBTQ people. It’s just historical fact at this point and not really a secret. Disapproval of casual sex is usually disproportionally focused on women’s sexuality and slut shaming. For me, unless you can wipe out the sexist backdrop for that kind of rhetoric, it’s against my feminist val… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Well, the data shows that people who marry young have high divorce rates. This could be for a variety of reasons, but research kind of speaks for itself on what marriage ages tend to produce what outcomes in today’s West/USA. I understand that it’s inconvenient for your beliefs. I think age is partly a social factor, but also it makes logical sense that young marriages have higher divorce rates. Young people are still maturing and it’s very easy to grow apart as you mature into adulthood. When y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 03:30 AM |
| 2 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?That makes sense that you disagree. Although, it’s still a huge generalization to say no progressives rush into relationships, but there’s probably a different attitude about it than yours. I believe in healthy relationships personally, and young people are notorious for rushing into very not great relationships. And that’s also understandable. You mentioned age in another comment. What do you consider older and younger? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?The OP asked a question about finding tradcon women. In this context, my limited reading about tradcon indicates that it means people who are traditional and conservative in their lifestyle and politics. This to me sounds like a heavy nod to traditional patriarchal values about gender roles, ideas about gender, and probably a host of other things, once you add in conservative politics. So not simply monogamy, as anyone can be monogamous, but monogamous in a nuclear family, patriarchal family str… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 03:11 AM |
| 3 | If you are her type then it doesn't matter where you meet womenEh. Yes and no. The problem is how open someone is to finding out if you’re their type. I won’t know if you’re my type in the grocery store because I probably won’t be open to talking to you much. Unless you’re just talking about looks, I guess. Men are too simple minded about approaching women (and many things tbh). I’ve turned down guys I’ve been very physically attracted to for any number of reasons, and not wanting to be bothered by strangers or being in my own world or a bad mood can defini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?What’s young and older to you? I’ve been progressive my entire life, but I can confirm based on what you think younger vs older means Yes, I understand and disagree with your opinion. I don’t think being in a happy or committed couple is an exclusively traditional thing. I DO think traditional people place way more emphasis on committed relationships as the only way to exist or be happy. Once society opens up possibilities, you have less pressure to jump into a relationship before you’re ready. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Progressive people have committed relationships all the time 😂 Now it is true that progressives don’t live and die by committed relationships as the only path forward and don’t encourage people to rush into them before they’re ready. That’s where we see the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Yeah that’s my thing - no one in my world thinks committed relationships are exclusively “traditional” lmao this sounds like something people online have created to uplift the tradcon thing. Literally most the people in my progressive or leftist circles have had committed relationships, want committed relationships, or are seeking them. I know many people who are not conservative who are married. Things like being open or poly may be more common but it’s definitely not everyone living that way. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women.So I’m a big proponent of therapy for everyone because it can be challenging to work through unhealthy ideas about ourselves and others. I really hope you invest the time to see someone OR at the very least get some good books/journals aimed at self love, positive self image and self esteem, and healthy relationships. Honestly, even just building a practice of getting some guided journals/workbooks can help. Social media channels about these themes as well - Instagram actually has a lot of pages… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Very true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?I understand your opinion for sure. I think location, culture, and environment play such a big role in what we observe too, plus the specific definitions seem to be all over the place in this conversation. People seem to be widening definitions beyond tradcon to make their arguments, while OP seems to be talking about something very specific, or applying the term conservative to things I may not view as conservative and conflating all kinds of subjective frustrations with non-traditional ideas a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?I travel often in leftist / progressive circles and see happy relationships everywhere. Progressives and leftists are in relationships too, both monogamous and poly, etc. This is isn't a tradcon thing lol That's why I assumed tradcon literally means traditional conservative, which is about a specific kind of relationship and lifestyle, from what little I've read on it and what the name kind of implies. If tradcon only means "any kind of happy committed relationship" then that includes many many … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?I think many of us would find it irrational and less of a given. That’s what I meant. My cousin was celibate until her late 30s when she finally got married because god said so. That’s something I think most strictly non-religious people would find difficult to rationalize. Women who believe men should be heads of the household, conservative politics on abortion, all kinds of things are mainly buoyed by religious dogma and sexist patriarchal structures that largely are enforced by religion. This… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/22 12:52 AM |
| 1 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Yeah, I’m sure they exist. I’m just not in that crowd, so if you’re already convinced, then I guess you don’t need the convincing that I said many of us would. I still don’t think that changes the fact that a large portion of people who aren’t religious are less likely to cling to tradcon ideals and beliefs. There’s a reason that very secular cities are different. But there are all kinds of people in the world. Maybe this reassures the OP 🤷♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Yeah I mean I can’t speak to your exes, but sure lol And yes, I thought the OP is talking about something very specifically conservative that is harder to find. Having said that, most people are not atheist, agnostic, or specifically non-religious. If you want to talk about what the vast majority of people are, I’d say the average American is far more likely to be Christian even if they aren’t super active in practicing and wouldn’t identify as religious. Going back to OP’s question, I assumed h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 08:56 PM |
| 4 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Tradcon seems to imply much more traditional values than that, unless I’m mistaken. Isn’t it supposed to imply strong traditional values ? Man is head of household, don’t have premarital or casual sex ever, domestic gender roles for women and not career women plus conservative politics? While there’s truth to what you’re saying, OP seems to be talking about something very different. Otherwise, by your observations, he wouldn’t find them difficult to find. I’m not Christian and have no interest i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 08:24 PM |
| 2 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?I’ll also add that two successful, career oriented people who marry later in life will likely be able to spend more money on providing a good life for their children. I don’t mean to be classist at all, but it’s just a reality in this economy that money is tied to quality of housing, quality of education, access to opportunities, and even ideal psychological development for children, unfortunately. Traditional values advocate for the kind of lifestyle that would make that very difficult, if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 08:09 PM |
| 6 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Not sure about that. Can you cite your sources and link credible data here? There’s data that shows couples who marry young have a higher divorce rate than people who marry older. That challenges conservative ideals of marrying young. And most people who marry in their late 20s and early-mid 30s probably weren’t celibate the whole time. And age gaps have an astronomically high divorce rate in the USA (and probably other western / developed nations as well). I believe data also shows people who a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:59 PM |
| 5 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?Oh, this af! I’m a dirty leftist - an atheist feminist and socialist to boot. My mom is a Christian and not really a feminist. She’s far more aggressive, emotionally volatile, and demanding than I am. Being religious definitely doesn’t mean submissive and docile, though, there may be more of them conditioned to be that way. My mom actually gets super triggered when I ask her why she doesn’t obey the Bible’s pretty clear mandate for women to be submissive, quiet, and to follow and obey their men.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:39 PM |
| 10 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?So what’s the logic to the argument? As an atheist, I think the opposite. What on earth would the logic be to convince me that traditional values and conservatism are better? For the religious woman, it’s a much easier sell. The Bible (or whatever specific religious text and religious culture, institution that advocates this) says so. It’s god’s word. God commands this that and the other. It’s a much easier sell. So remove all that. What’s the logic to that argument exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Its true, women don't make any effort in datingMeanwhile there are women who put in effort, but some of them are ignored or end up having to lead everything. A friend of mine was dating a guy and he just completely relied on her planning things. I’m very talkative and assertive and I’ve had guys say they’re so relieved to not have to carry the conversation. Yeah, you know what happens when they feel that? They sometimes get lazy and start looking to her to initiate plans or just communicate at all. I think people on both sides can identify i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:17 PM |
| 21 | Do religious men have an easier time finding relationships than non-religious men?If your focus is tradcon women then yes, obviously lol There’s very little appeal to that lifestyle for those of us who aren’t religious. They exist, but definitely rare. What would be the rationality for those of us who aren’t religious to be traditional and conservative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | I find most wo(men) are unattractive too.That’s okay. I’m overweight and plenty of men are attracted to me and plenty aren’t lol As long as you’re not an asshole about it or against body positivity and positive representation of fat people living our lives, not pressuring other men who don’t share your aversion to women who aren’t thin, etc., then by all means, only be attracted to thin women. Just be kind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 06:59 PM |
| 6 | Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women.Girl wth? You need to work on your self esteem. If any man ever told me I’m under a 5, I’d break up with him. Granted, I don’t ask anyone to rank me by looks because I don’t need that to be confident. It sounds like your bf was trash and has an impact on your self-confidence. The solution isn’t to humble yourself, it’s the opposite. You don’t need to think you’re a beauty queen to have a baseline of self-respect. I’m fat and I know I’m beautiful and so do other people. No man would ever say that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Most average men would be happy with a healthy weight, average looking women.I really don’t think reality is this cut and dry. People tell me I’m really pretty and I get my fair share of male attention, but I’m also pretty overweight - definitely in the obese category. My current bf is oddly like me - very overweight and handsome (at least to me). But I have had a lot of conventionally attractive / very hot men into me. A lot of it was sexual interest, that’s true - it’s incredibly easy to sleep with hot men. But not all of it. Also people judge attraction differently. G… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/22 03:42 PM |
| 2 | Why women have hard time apologizing when they are wrong?Truth is probably the other way around. Society conditions women to apologize for things way more than men. It sounds like you might not want someone to explain their side of the story though, not sure. Even if you fucked up, you can still discuss both sides of the issue. I think some men are very conflict avoidant and would rather wrap up the apology quickly to get the other person to shut up and move on from the issue, personally. But these are all generalizations that require more research ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/22 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Women want to be valued for more than sex, but they are unwilling to do things that make them valued for more than sexDon’t give up, if that’s what you really want to do! To be fair, writing is only part of what I do, and it’s a very specific type of writing in a business context. Definitely not the journalism I once planned to be doing, that’s for sure haha. I’m interested in possibly moving into the policy/public policy field next, but I’ve been climbing up the nonprofit development ladder for a little while, which is a lot of different types of fundraising, including grant writing. If you get experience and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 07:00 PM |
| 3 | Women want to be valued for more than sex, but they are unwilling to do things that make them valued for more than sexOkay, dear, sounds good. You’re entitled to your opinion. That’s fine with me, amigo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 06:48 PM |
| 17 | Women want to be valued for more than sex, but they are unwilling to do things that make them valued for more than sexLolol I need to stop messing around on Reddit forums and start some money making blogs though 😭😭 I’m naturally critical, and I’ve always been a writer. I write for a living. I was going to be a lawyer once upon a time, because if you’re a very smart, argumentative cookie, who can write very well, they tell you to become a lawyer when you’re young. (I write much better than I do here on this forum, of course lol) What’s even scarier is that I talk just as much. This is not a drill🥴 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 01:21 PM |
| 69 | Women want to be valued for more than sex, but they are unwilling to do things that make them valued for more than sexI wasn’t going to entertain this, but insomnia strikes again! There are many men who do value women as human beings and not sexual objects. You simply aren’t one of them. Your subjective opinion doesn’t equal objective reality. Even your subjective opinion is riddled with blatant lies and irrational conclusions Examples: “Men don’t care where women work.” Many men do actually care about a woman’s career. Uneducated men, unemployed men, men with blue collar jobs, etc. maybe less so, but men with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 08:48 AM |
| – | When a woman makes a man jump through hoops for sex, he should immediately discard her and find another womanI’ve tried to explain this before but a lot of guys here don’t want to hear it. They think it’s the other way around and/or are jealous and resentful that women can easily sleep with someone they’re not serious about but strategically withhold sex from a guy they actually care about. Getting that sex is the most important factor in all of this and many men here struggle to get sex at all it seems, which seems to amplify those feelings. shrug “Live and let die.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 03:16 PM |
| – | When a woman makes a man jump through hoops for sex, he should immediately discard her and find another womanExactly, no issue at all there. We support OP and men like him to find their compatible match. Not everyone is for everyone! Best to go your separate ways if you’re not getting what you want from that specific relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 03:08 PM |
| – | When a woman makes a man jump through hoops for sex, he should immediately discard her and find another womanIt’s #logical, babe, duh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/21 02:51 PM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitNo entitlement to a relationship in this context, as I’ve said he can just leave if it doesn’t work for him and that she can explore relationship potential with other people. I’ve already explained how it’s not disingenuous, so I think it’s pretty clear what my thoughts are. The article you linked explains how the picture can be more complex than that and shows that most people are still happy with their marriages. Also mentions the difficulty single mothers specifically have in relationships as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 08:35 AM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitI will say that you could be shooting yourself in the foot. If she has 5 first dates and you tell her that she either commits to you fully and drops the other guys or you’re gone…it seems like a risky bet. I still think you should, if this matters a lot to you, but unless you make one hell of a first impression that would knock her socks off and keep them off (you both connect immediately), then she may not think it’s rational to stop dating other people. How does she know you’re the one vs. the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 06:37 AM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitI mean it sounds like we are just agreeing to disagree, but You definitely can make any assumptions you want to. If you want to rush sex and have earlier sex as a deal breaker, and not getting it causes all kinds of insecurities and assumptions, then leave the situation and find one that works better for you. That’s really what dating comes down to. Don’t nurture an entitlement to someone’s body, just move on to someone else who wants to have sex early with you. The idea I’ve conveyed repeatedly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 06:21 AM |
| 1 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitIt’s clearly a red flag, as it’s likely to indicate a guy who either fits one of the following: only/mostly interested in casual over serious relationships with her, has issues with respecting boundaries (if he gets pushy about it), is desperate, or doesn’t have the patience or desire to truly get to know her as a person - he wants what he came here for and it isn’t that. And finally, if it’s not what she wants that specific relationship to be, then she should just let him go, simple. He can fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 04:39 AM |
| 0 | To the men who claim marriage is bad for men..Why do people prefer pizza over broccoli, even though broccoli has more actual benefits for them? There’s probably a lot of research on this. One article says what we all kind of know - men view that kind of serious commitment as more work, too much responsibility, are worried about a wife changing their day to day habits, and view it as a financial risk. https://ifstudies.org/blog/why-men-resist-marriage-even-though-they-benefit-the-most-from-it/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 12:34 AM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.Except that’s not a reflection of the energy or tone of your posts at all lol but sure kiddo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?Yup! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...And I disagree that your distinction is a likelihood. More to the point, again, you made an assumption about how I would feel / respond. I've already made it clear that you're incorrect and gave you information on what I would think is happening. Again, cheers! lol But your point was heard - if your partner can't stay 9 level hot for whatever reason, you're dumping them. Gotcha. Anything else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 07:50 PM |
| 0 | To the men who claim marriage is bad for men..*shrug* lol You don't have to like the stats, I'm just sharing them. That's all a girl can do - droppin' the info, knowledge, the 411. I'm a data, facts, stats, and logic gal. I have a pretty high standard on sound logical reasoning when it comes to claims about objective reality, and evidence is required for that. So for me, objective research trumps random guys moaning about "nagging never satisfied wives" on reddit. *shrug* That's just how it is, bro. That's emotional reasoning, which is fine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | To the men who claim marriage is bad for men..I'm pretty sure there's substantial social science and medical research that shows men benefit from marriage. They don't benefit from divorce settlements financially, but men actually have better life outcomes and mental health in marriage I believe, plus have more sex for a time. Men who think men don't benefit from marriage are lying to themselves. Women actually suffer more from marriage in terms of mental health in some ways, believe it or not. https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 04:15 PM |
| 2 | All things being equal, do you believe a woman being a virgin in her mid 20s a red flag or turn off?I can't really answer the question, as I'm not your target audience, nor am I red pill at all. I'm a raging feminist harpy and very sex positive - don't believe being a virgin makes anyone better or more valuable than anyone else, hi nicetomeetyou :) But I was in that position in my mid-20s. I could write a ton about that honestly, oy. For me, I was both unfamiliar and insecure with men/boys by college (all-girls, catholic high school and didn't try to go out and meet guys as much as some girls … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...However, not that I necessarily disagree, with your point about not my place to be concerned about what she does to become anything, there’s a HUGE caveat you’re missing. She’s my partner. I thought you meant here that you were talking about...your partner. You made an assertion that I would be livid in that situation where someone's behavior radically shifted out of nowhere, including that they started abusing substances and stopped going to work. Again, I think this person is coping/struggling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 11:47 AM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.Well, that escalated quickly. Now, I feel rejected because you didn't accept my hat tip. No fair. You seem bothered by the phrase "independent woman" lolol Weird assumptions, considering that A. you know like zero things about my life, B. a lot or even most men also get help with their car needs and smart phone needs...kind of why those business that help with those things exist, my guy :) and C. I like to let guys get things off the high shelves, but I also frequently do it myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 11:27 AM |
| 2 | Having strong negative opinions of the opposite sex is a huge turn-off and red flag.I mean, if that's how you took it, then that's how you take it amigo. *shrug* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 11:12 AM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.Doesn't sound like it to me. Sounds bitter as black coffee to me, but okay. Life your best life I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...you’d be absolutely livid Not exactly. I would think they're depressed and need help. I may decide not to be with them, but not merely for gaining some weight - it's the "I stopped doing everything including working and starting abusing substances" that would be my issue that is not compatible for the kind of lifestyle I'm trying to build. But I would work with them if they wanted to get therapy and get help, if I were seriously committed to them. Someone I'm just dating for a short period of ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/21 11:05 AM |
| 1 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...Mmmkay... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...But you don't have facts though, you have your perception of how you think someone looks and what you think are their chances with someone else. This doesn't even concern you lol If you think being emotionally abusive isn't important just so you can get someone to see themselves as less attractive, I'd argue you are being driven by emotions, not mere facts. Something is driving you to want to inflict harm on someone emotionally. This is not logic based solely on facts, this is likely (as I alway… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.Wrong, but that is your opinion. You're entitled to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:03 PM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.I'm not unhappy, but I am a feminist :) Well, we can agree to disagree then. That's okay with me, still stand by my post/point. Pick Mes are women who have issues with internalized misogyny that affect how they interact with or judge women + desperate for male approval. You can be a caring partner and want to make your man happy, while also being feminist and having a healthy relationship with yourself and other women. Pick Mes don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:00 PM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.Nah. I'm a feminist and one of those evil, independent 21st century millennial chicks. So I tip the hat to you, sir *tips hat twice* :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...Okay. Curious though, why are you entertained by other peoples life struggles? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:16 PM |
| 2 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...Sure, to some extent, but that's not what I said. I said, in my observations and experiences, men care "way more" about how society views their partner. And if I didn't specify (I think I did in the context of my post), I'm talking about looks. Women seem more independent in this manner, in my opinion. They don't care as much about how their friends view their partner, in terms of looks. I've heard groups of guys make fun of one of their friends hookups, casual partners, and even girlfriends. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Equity means correcting imbalances of power that have oppressed and disadvantaged people. That's my focus. Men are not systemically disadvantaged in as many ways, unless they're minorities or gbt. Again, if you're dismissive about the ways that women are suffering, we don't have anything to talk about. You've shown your cards/character and that's pretty much it. Have a great day! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...Yah, context lol I'm not talking about someone walking into an orgy and having to perform. I'm talking about someone talking to someone for days, asking for their pictures, jerking off to their pictures, seeing them in person, maybe multiple times, but then feeling like shes not enough to be his gf even if he likes her. Status and image are on his mind, how he will look. I've heard stories of women who deal with being some guy's secret for xyz physical reasons - they are obsessed with fucking th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:49 PM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.And you're missing my point, which is that men are much louder about their criticisms of women's bodies and always have been. It's even wrapped into our music. Commentary about women's bodies aaaaaalll daaaayyy looong. And even your own language reflects that (she's a bitch!) - objectification and sexism against women is a core part of our social conditioning. We can go back and forth, but it's not going to change either perspective. My point is for women to stop being apologetic about their pre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:41 PM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.I disagree, I'm going by what I'm reading in different threads here. Having said that, I am combining my real life experience into my considerations of the topics here, where many women I've known enjoy casual sex as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:32 PM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.lolz Good Day to you, sir. *tips hat* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...I'm new here, but so far all I see are men complaining lolol Get can mean anything. If she wants to enjoy casual sex, she can get hot guys to fuck her. Dating is more challenging for everyone, but I've seen several women who misogynists would rate as less attractive dating conventionally attractive to hot men. Again, if her standards aren't working for her, she will adjust. If she doesn't feel the need to adjust because she's getting what she wants or willing to wait some time for it, she won't.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:25 PM |
| -1 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...It's a form of emotional abuse, first of all. It's cruel, mean, and manipulative because the delusion has nothing to do with you - you want to knock her down to improve your odds most likely. It's very fucked up, and shows you to be weak and jealous. Weak people need to tear others down to prop themselves up. It also shows that you're not a genuinely happy person and shows that you're not empathetic or kind. It's also counterproductive for you. True happiness and empowerment thrives on uplifting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...lol I think there's more to it, honestly, especially when you factor in personality and interests, which men here don't for some reason. That can make a huge difference for some men, even some men who are perceived to be "hot." People really think all of these guys stay the same or are super shallow. I've known several hot men who were deep, intellectual, and turned on by a variety of women and especially valued those similar traits as well. But no one here wants to hear me, so whatever *shrug* … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Having strong negative opinions of the opposite sex is a huge turn-off and red flag.I have to wonder how educated or social you are. There are just way too many types of women out there in different careers with different interests. I think women are even more formally educated these days, so if you were at college and deeply engaged, you would have been exposed to a variety of debates and conversations involving women. I have friends who are in a range of careers. One works as a mergers and acquisitions lawyer but does asylum cases on the side, another is a therapist, another … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:03 PM |
| 1 | The standards for men are really lowI do think thats a huge part of it. There are a lot of men who aren't peak physical attractiveness who do well with sex and dating. Hell, there are even broke men who do well (although they may be physically attractive). Social skills has a lot to do with it, imo. But that also gets to emotional self-awareness and breaking down some of the more toxic ideas that are holding you back, to an extent. If you refuse to let go of things that are holding you back and hurting you because the anger feels … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Men date hot women who aren't great people either or sleep with them. Men definitely overlook a lot of things to be with a hot girl, often. I don't think men have a monopoly on not tolerating bad behavior. The difference may just be access to sex, but when they get it, they don't often care about her bad behavior. I don't accept anyone blaming women for men's behavior, first. It's no woman's fault that some guy was an asshole to her. He's an asshole because that is who he is. Assholes often have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 01:12 PM |
| 15 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...They really think their scale is the objective standard when not even all men agree on that standard and women tend to be on a totally different scale or don't think in those terms. Women are also affected by social skills and other qualities that these men probably lack as well. That fucks their entire scale up and is why most of them have no hope until they change their perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 12:55 PM |
| 4 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...Theres very little logical consistency here. I'm convinced this is an issue of the angry ego wanting to find the conclusions it believes are right (the woe is me), at the expense of one's own happiness and finding better perspectives and solutions. Seems like a dark pit that only a therapist can attend to. Perspective accounts for so much. But a lot here are sexist gremlins, so I also don't care much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 12:50 PM |
| 8 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...I think one of the most basic rules in dating is dont obsess over people who don't want you. If you have no chance with her, move on. It's not really your place to be concerned with what she does to herself to become anything really, nor is it your place to tell someone they're overestimating themselves. That's rude af tbh and kind of shows some qualities in you that she should stay away from, in terms of a partner. If you're sitting there judging her as being below someone else, you definitely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 12:42 PM |
| 11 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...Exactly! This is the weird part. The only conclusion is they want to try and knock her self-esteem down or control her, which is fucked up. Men only are obsessed with this rating system, which in my experience, isn't how real life works. The logic I'm seeing here doesn't really make sense because these guys in their comments are assuming that 1. No 6 types are dating type 9 men and 2. Seem to be implying that they're not attracted to the 6 or lower (the guy above mentioned that "most women are o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 12:21 PM |
| 15 | Even if a woman lowers her standards, she won't be ATTRACTED to the man she's lowered them for...I honestly don't believe that's true in general. I think what's really happening is that they're sexually attracted to women that they are taught don't fit the idea of "hot girl." Women find men attractive all the time who aren't models, but we don't lie to ourselves and tell ourselves that we aren't attracted to him. If looking at someone got you hard and you wanted to fuck them, you're attracted to them. You might hate that you're attracted to women who "aren't hot" and want the trophy wife an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Men should normalize wearing height extenders, as they are comparable to make-up for womenCan't make it clearer than I already have. If you don't like the post, you can always move on :) I disagree that anecdotes are completely useless. Understanding a general trend only tells one part of the story. But also, you haven't posted any research on the topic from what I could see. You haven't proven anything either and only given basic statements that could also be deemed useless. More to the point, research on this topic shows what I've already said - that the actual preferences are defi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?You're dodging the question. Are you blaming women for men's behavior, including the post that you read, or not? (Sounds like you are) You forget that as a woman, a pretty social one, I've talked to hundreds or maybe thousands in my life and seen their different partners, heard their stories. I've definitely seen a lot of women deal with poor treatment from average men. My family alone is filled with those stories. You're assuming more than you can really know and projecting your own insecuritie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 08:23 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Okay, no worries. Thanks for acknowledging though :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?lmao The comedy here is great tonight, folks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 08:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Okay. I'm just saying I don't think most men would be down for that, because it would make sex and dating even harder for them. Plus possibly some additionally unfair tax benefits and what not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.Not really, it just seems like the most obvious answer. I think most normal people who read a lot of these comments would see the same thing, but that's my opinion. I was responding to a couple people who also see the idiocy behind some comments, so I added my layer of why I think you all say the things you do. There's always a why! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Nope. You were blatantly dismissive about pretty serious issues and I'm not having it. Cheers, babe! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:46 AM |
| – | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.The empathy and kindness are strong with this one lololol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:42 AM |
| 1 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.I'm glad you liked it, thank youuu :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:40 AM |
| – | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.What is whooshing straight over your head is the men who are crass about rejecting women online are probably that way from crass rejections from women. That's something for you to resolve with your therapist, your mother, and other interested in parties. Women are not responsible for men's behavior. If you show up like a jerk, you should be judged accordingly. Crass or not, vocal or not, it doesn't matter. I say it does matter and I'm going to keep saying it. Society caters to men judging women'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:37 AM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Yes, because You started going off about a comment some guy made, to illustrate your sentiment that no one cares about men Then you concluded that this was an example of the bar being low, and said it's because of women Sounds like you're blaming women for this in some way to me. Can you explain what you meant here then? I shit you not that was a legit post(I can't find the link cause I read it awhile ago), so I agree, the bar is low for men(I mean how else would a "high value man" get the confi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Men should normalize wearing height extenders, as they are comparable to make-up for womenYeah, I'm going to say she's probably not the majority. I have a close friend of the same height who has actually been in relationships with short men and she says she's over it and now only dates tall men. It really depends on the woman, but I'd say height is a popular consideration among women. Having said that, I've still known a lot of women who are dating or married to short men. Read harder. A lot of my first paragraph was using myself as an example of how I think many women think, based o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 07:21 AM |
| -2 | Men should normalize wearing height extenders, as they are comparable to make-up for womenYeah, I'm going to say she's probably not the majority. I'm not short, I'm average. (5'4.5'' to be exact) That still doesn't stop me from loving really tall men and a lot of women are the same in my experience. Other qualities matter and may matter more, but it's definitely not true that it isn't a thing on my mind or something I notice/desire. Even if I'm not making it a huge deal...you notice the difference when you have it vs when you don't. I have a close friend of the same height who has ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 04:14 AM |
| 0 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.Oh, I was talking about in general, not just in these communities. I'm new to this forum but I've seen men all over the net do this for years. But I have seen multiple messages of guys here bitterly stating that "women get pumped and dumped by hot assholes" as a way of trying to make women feel bad for enjoying casual sex with men they view as top x%. I've seen a lot of that here and it has only been like a week or two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 12:34 AM |
| 2 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.:D Ayee, thank youuuu | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 11:59 PM |
| – | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.Sooo...In my text I specifically opened with saying women have their own preferences and men try to make them feel bad for them. The problem is that men come online complaining and trying to demonize women who have preferences. I'm making a point about the double standards. Women should feel okay to like what they want to in general, but they should also think about the insensitivity and rudeness that men often have when they comment on women's bodies whenever they start to feel bad for those pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 11:47 PM |
| – | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.I mean you say that like we don't enjoy sex with good looking men, haven't actually dated those men, and you're assuming that all men who enjoy casual sex and are looking are assholes... You're dripping in bitterness, my dear. Good luck with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 11:37 PM |
| – | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.This is not a rational response to my assertion, so I'll assume that you're not serious. Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 11:32 PM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.You keep making huge assumptions, sir. The problem with your logic is this: You are assuming that any number of your conclusions is true based on the fact that men and women are different. But that premise doesn't prove that much of anything. "Men and women are different, so all men are bipolar." "Men and women are different, so all men commit suicide" See the problem? Neither of those statements is true. To even make them logically valid, and not even necessarily logically sound (true premises … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 11:26 PM |
| 5 | Does having sons really save marriage/relationships?I read an article on this. "Save" is a huge leap, but theres less risk for divorce in the teen years. There's allegedly no impact on divorce before the teen years and it goes down again after. https://theconversation.com/parents-of-teenage-daughters-more-likely-to-divorce-study-84704 It seems like this could largely depend on the family. In the article I read, they said there's more data to support the conclusion that the teen years involve a lot of tension between the daughter and her parents, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?Exactly. Most guys would freak out if I asked to be exclusive on date 2 in my city lol "That girl is weird and probably has no dating experience." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 10:03 PM |
| 2 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?Exactly, they're insecure about the competition. That seems like what this all comes down to. So many guys here are worried about this, but there are also a lot of men here who struggle with dating and sex. The desperation to lock a woman down as fast as possible is not only a red flag, but not the kind of energy that is most attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 09:59 PM |
| -2 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?Exactly. Gives major creep vibes. Some of the guys complaining about this just seem desperate or like they have control issues. Expecting women to commit to exclusivity with strangers and probably sleep with them early on. Smh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 09:56 PM |
| 3 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?Exactly. These are complete strangers. It's weird for them to ask for complete exclusivity so early. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 09:54 PM |
| 4 | Is it unreasonable to expect dating exclusivity today?But then again, maybe I simply had an overly-wholesome sheltered upbringing or was hopelessly naive? By 2021 standards? Maybe. But America is super diverse and this probably still varies some. In major metropolitan cities, I'd say that assuming exclusivity with a stranger is definitely unrealistic and imo, kind of weird. These days it seems that expectingeven sexual exclusivity, never mind dating exclusivity is completelyunrealistic, especially on the part of women who obviously have manymor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 09:45 PM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.Sound logic is defined by strong reasoning backed by concrete evidence, not mere assumptions. Your logic has to be both valid and your premises have to be proven as truth. You have made a series of baseless assumptions that are mostly backed by emotion - desire to believe in two different realities for men and women, which are not backed by any hard psychological/neurological evidence for each of your claims or even your own anecdotes. Therefore, your logic is by definition not conclusively "sou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 09:11 PM |
| 2 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?You all may need some therapy, tbh. It's nothing to be ashamed of to get help with mental health issues and help building up confidence, self-esteem, resolving jealousy and hatred, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Well, most societies were built catering to men. Feminism threatened the full benefits of that by helping women gain more rights and respect, which does suck for the shittiest of men. I think incels are a minority of the population. But also, you don't have to base the entire reality of how men are treated based on a Quora post. People say mean shit. Women have been receiving mean, disrespectful comments from men since forever. Why are you blaming women for a mean comment some guy made on the in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 08:50 PM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Logic is on the side of it not being a lie. If we had a polygamous culture where it was acceptable, permissible for the wealthier and more popular men to marry multiple women, it would definitely spike women's expectations and openness to sharing those men and make them even less likely to settle for less. Plus lots of research shows that men benefit emotionally more from being in marriage than women do. I do facts and research, which support my conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 08:41 PM |
| -1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.Right? Don't sign up to hate your life for 30 years, sis! FYI I have some more conservative acquaintances (esp. because I know a lot of Muslim women who wear head coverings and follow conservative rules about sexuality) - several of them have found great husbands who are feminists who don't hate women, in my circle their guys tend to be activists who fight for a better world and are empathetic and understanding of women. So there's hope and no need to settle for angry gremlins :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] How do you think women should vet for men who only plan on using them?I think waiting for sex is a good idea, especially if you're dating multiple men at once. Widening the types of men you're into is a good idea, but don't assume someone wouldn't be into you or commitment just because many of the "hottest" men are into casual sex. In my opinion, his interest in having more in-depth conversations, opening up to you about himself, how much interest he has in you, how he treats you - is he kind and empathetic, supportive or dismissive, ignores you for periods of tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.They don't want to accept that they're hypocrites. Women should have different standards, while they get to do all the things they would judge a potential partner for. *shrug* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.Nah, you're trying to make them hold their arguments and ideas to a highers standard of logic. Won't work homie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 06:13 PM |
| -1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.They're jealous and angry. No logical consistency necessary - they come up with sexist ideas/rules that try to control women while they want access to their bodies. So they want to be "playa pimps" but a woman who has sex with casual partners is a "bitch, slut whore." Before we started pushing back on these ideas, there was free range to try to shame and put women down for doing exactly what they wish they could do. History 101. Without trying to control or demean women, and supporting access to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.They want so badly to believe in some of these ideas that aren't real life problems for women. These men don't just lack respect for women - they're resentful and jealous about how easy women have access to sex. It's very illuminating for sure! It doesn't matter much though because the dream dies in many ways beyond their Barbie Dream House. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Men should have a hoe phase before committing to anyone.I mean, a lot of men already do that lol But I think if men waited until sex was "overrated" to find a partner, our society might have some even bigger issues with population, marriage rates, etc. When is sex "overrated" in general for men? Sure they realize it's not the only important thing, but Idk that most would say it's overrated until they're much much older lolol And then that affects their chances at finding good partners, let alone a lasting marriage. But the problem with your propositi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Whoops, I seem to have given you the impression that this was a discussion, in which I would entertain any ridiculous dismissive comments on these very serious issues, while you ironically argue that others are dismissive of "men's issues." We're not playing that game here. Either you can respond with a genuine interest and respect for the topics mentioned, or you can keep it moving. Hope that was clear, love! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:38 PM |
| – | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.There's a lot of entitlement happening that's for sure. I've only been here for a week or some shit and it's dripping in here lol I don't want to be mean, but two can and do play this game. I want to know how many men who commented here/liked the post have ever had "woe is me, women only like the top x% of men" thoughts/posts because I've seen a lot of comments like that here. Funny how that works. They really don't seem to be able to connect the dots between what they complain women do vs what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:32 PM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.Sounds like you're more in your feelings than I am. Logical consistency > sexist delusions. You're a hypocrite either way you slice it. I just wanted to see if you would confirm my early suspicions, and you did. That's all I said lol Wonder if your wife knows your views. Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?I guess it usually is just once a day, but sometimes it can be an "in the morning, at night before bed" kind of thing. Other things are important to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:19 PM |
| 2 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Damn, that sucks. My clitoris is my best friend and we hang out twice a day sometimes, if it's a boring day maybe 3 lolol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?I don't know if women being picky means we have "low to ultra low libido" lol This could be a correlation vs causation issue. But in comparison to men, we probably have some degree of lower-than-men's-libido average. It can also vary from individual too, of course. A friend of mine had a bf complain that she wanted too much sex. lol I always say that women have more access to sex, so we can afford to be picky. We also have more to risk, via STDs and pregnancy, so are probably biologically inclin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:14 PM |
| 4 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?There may be some truth to do this, but I don't think it's the entire picture. Top 5% in terms of career, looks, money doesn't speak to the quality of the relationship or how those men are acting. You can be with a guy who is incredibly attractive and successful and still feel like the relationship is subpar. I've turned down men who are incredibly hot and way above average in success because of the red flags they exhibit in behavior. Yeah, my ovaries wanted them, but I value myself more than an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?Men wouldn't like that though lol polygamy = more competition for the average joes. Monogamy benefits more men ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 04:50 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Can't tell if this is a serious question, hmm... If it is, you're asking me to give you like decades of history and social science study. That's a lot. O.o The shortest, generalized summary possible is that almost every country in modern history has been designed around the oppression and control of women. It's a pretty core tenant of patriarchal societies. Countries with larger feminist movements, like the United States, have been able to chip away at some of that, but things are really far fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:54 PM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.So then you're a sexist hypocrite, as suspected, and you admit that you're insecure about this. lmao Just wanted to confirm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:16 PM |
| 9 | If men leave/ghost after the first sexual encounter it's because they were grossed out.lolol I'd like to make a Public Service Announcement *Jay-Z Cough* This is why I tell all my girls to never feel bad about their physical preferences with men. Sometimes society tries to make women feel bad for our preferences or pretends that we don't have them, while men are blunt af about finding a specific woman's body to be "gross." If it's okay for men to post about how gross certain women's bodies are or ghost them for that reason instead of acting like adults who can communicate, then la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 01:09 PM |
| 2 | It’s a terrible practice for women to fuck one dude quickly and make the guy she actually “likes” waitStrongly Disagree. It's extremely logical for women to have a reliable and trusted fuck buddy, while dating other men who are not sexual partners as she tries to see who is good match for her and who isn't. Every woman who does this knows that. Nothing you can say changes that. But the irrationality continues in this post - THERE IS NO "SO" in this stage of dating. Significant Other means you're in a relationship. You're not her SO yet. In the early stages of dating when she may be making you wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 07:46 AM |
| 5 | Unpopular opinion: men don’t have it harder than women in the heterosexual dating worldI agree with some of what you said, in terms of reasons women are pickier. Anyone who thinks logically about this would reach the conclusion that women have so many more reasons to be picky, from risks to sexist conditioning. But a lot of the men who reason through sexist, illogical thinking don't want to hear what you're saying. They don't want to hear that sexism that hurts women can actually have a negative impact on men as well. So your logic "will not compute" for a lot of guys online. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Sure, but some men do make money doing a variety of sex work jobs, so it is an option for some (prostitution, stripping, only fans, cam sites, some combination of all of them, etc.), especially if you market toward a gay audience. A young college guy could probably have a good chance in the gay porn market. Even if he's more in the low to average income amount, that's still some good money on the side as a student. Students are often broke af. That can help with paying off loans and such. They'l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Yeah, I know that. Waaay less can still be waaay more than a night at McDonalds though. There's a reason some men choose to do it. Not all women make the same amount either really. Depends on the woman, the club, location, race, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Right...you said that in response to the idea of doing sex work. That implies that you think their work is partying, because otherwise why would you have replied that way to the suggestion that you do a specific kind of job (here being sex work)? That's what I responded to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 02:55 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Another myth, we're on a roll! Most sex workers don't consider their work a party. In fact, for many, it can be kind of traumatizing and emotionally, physically draining. It's a job where you set aside some hours of doing a task that you get paid for. So unless you don't plan on working, you have time. And that's okay! Some people have parents who pay their way and foot the bill. Not everyone has that silver spoon in their mouths though. Some people have to take a "by any means necessary" to mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 06:12 AM |
| 0 | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?That's Myth Number One, amigo! A lot of women who do sex work are in college as well and some would rather not do what they do, but there aren't many lucrative options and student debt is craaaazy. I was friends with a stripper who had a serious bf when we were in college and she went to Columbia after for her masters in neuroscience or some shit. Also, you can make some kind of money doing that, if you want. While not as many straight women are into it, there are cam guys and gay men are also a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 06:00 AM |
| – | Red pill men, why the hate on only fans girls?Not red pill at all, but I always say that a lot of these kinds of men resent women's sexual advantage. It's easier when she's disregarded and desperate in society, but when you have mainstream culture embracing these women as individuals deserving of respect and now capitalism (something these types most likely love) is profiting from men's desperation and appetite for women's bodies...well, it's a natural combination for something that would infuriate them. Yes, it is jealousy. These women are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 01:50 AM |
| 1 | The rise of sexlessness among men is NOT NORMAL, the reasons given for that is major coping by men and female gaslighting to hide the real reason. Women are not having less sex they are just having fewer sexual partners.Which data are you talking about? The data I've seen is about inactivity and frequency, not just number of sexual partners. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/young-adults-especially-men-having-sex-less-frequently I think some of what you're saying makes basic sense. Women have always and probably will always have more access to sex. Not all men live by these online illusions that men dream of, where "average" women don't have access to sex with "hot" men (or relationships, for that matter).… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 01:36 AM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.That's fair, but I wanted to highlight some logical inconsistencies in your posts. First, I was referring to your comment that she didn't cheat, that's all. You made a simple statement that having sex with one guy while not having sex with another seems like it would cause you problems in the future, indicating that cheating is that problem, and then made a simple statement that she didn't cheat. I believe you said that you broke up largely because you realized she wasn't exclusive from day one.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/21 08:40 AM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.Hmmm, see to me, that doesn't necessarily fit the definition of a "promiscuous" person. For example, a woman who has one steady "friend with benefits" over a year on the side of going on dates with guys who just weren't the right match to become relationships (whom she didn't sleep with) probably wouldn't be considered promiscuous to most people in 2021. Anecdotally, the vast majority of my friends who have healthy, active sex lives have never cheated on their partners. My closest friends are wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 07:04 AM |
| 3 | Ladies - no sex isn't "all men want". But it's, like, really really really important to usTheres a tooon of entitlement happening here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 01:44 AM |
| 6 | Ladies - no sex isn't "all men want". But it's, like, really really really important to usLiterally though. lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Ladies - no sex isn't "all men want". But it's, like, really really really important to usHow about you ask a genuine question about something you clearly don't understand, instead of telling someone else how they feel and what their lived experiences and observations have been? You don't sound like you have much experience talking to women or people in general tbh. You can't determine that someone is "perfect" when one of the things you have implied makes that man not perfect to most women. lolol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Ladies - no sex isn't "all men want". But it's, like, really really really important to usI mean...okay? This shouldn't affect any woman's standards on what to do with her own body. Some women will fuck you as early as you want - find those women. If a specific woman isn't comfortable giving her body to someone she has literally only seen 3 times, then she should move on. If she wants to spend more time without sex getting to know a potential bf, then that's what she should do. I don't think sex should be your most reliable barometer to whether or not a woman is interested in you, un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Men want commitment just as much as women, but feminism has erased the incentive to do so.I know many men who identify as feminists and almost all of them are seeking or already in committed relationships with women. Feminism doesn't seem to be affecting feminist men and feminist women from being in relationships with one another or feeling incentives to seek out those relationships. I don't think feminism is the problem here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 01:15 AM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.Well, congratulations! I'm glad you found someone who is compatible with your views and finds them acceptable. Shared values are extremely important and I'm glad you found someone who works for you. Infidelity is not at all the same thing as what we are talking about. Again, feeling that level of entitlement over someone's body is bizarre to me. I don't feel entitled to someone's body before I'm in a relationship. It's disrespectful to assert any right to control my body or feel entitled to anyt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 01:09 AM |
| 2 | It seems well-known that women find "ambition" attractive, but what types of ambition, specifically?It depends on the woman. Some women really want men who want to become athletes or artists/creatives. Some women are used to super broke men and just wants someone who is financial stable and takes their career seriously. Personally, I'm always drawn to men who are any of the following types: labeled as intellectuals/academics who have invested a significant amount of time into studying/earning advanced degrees and climbing up the academia ladder, have some prestigious job (lawyer, doctor, etc.)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 12:46 AM |
| 1 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.Okay, a few things: Sure, maybe your friends really do believe that. I have no idea. What I do know is what friends often do. Sometimes "looking out for feelings" means telling our friends to move on from situations that are causing them anxiety, conflict, etc. It's not necessarily always about what the other person's truth is, because we can't really know that all the time as people who only see your side of things, as friends. If I can see that my friend is dealing with a dating situation that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 12:30 AM |
| 2 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.Exactly. I'm a little surprised some of these men cant figure this out. Attraction being multi-layered, it's really not that cut and dry. The fuck buddy is either someone I'm not interested in really dating but find physically attractive and/or someone who isn't looking for a serious relationship himself, so by definition isn't even in the serious dating pool. What we don't want is to risk the connection with the guy we really value as a potential partner by rushing into sex or sleep with every … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 11:57 PM |
| 2 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys.She's on the mark for many women. Also, it makes perfectly logical sense. I think what's fogging the logical reasoning for a lot of men is your own insecurity, focus on sex as a measure of something, or maybe even focus on sex as a value metric for women. Your friends are probably just looking out for your feelings, which makes sense. But it's 100% logical for women to take their time finding a real partner, while also needing sex. The problem is that sex complicates things, taking your time get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 11:56 PM |
| 2 | “Withholding sex” from a date isn’t about getting men to act right. It’s about vetting out fuckboys."I don't understand why women sleep with some men, but make other men wait." I wanted to explain this, because some men here seem confused about why this happens. If a woman's end goal is to find a relationship/marriage and she wants to take a "slow burn" approach to really get to know who he is and his intentions, but she also has a libido as an adult human and wants to have sex, then she may decide that it makes sense to have a fuck buddy on the side (whom she doesn't take seriously beyond the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/21 11:43 PM |
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