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Dog ain't gonna divorce you. Always loyal.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 12:41 AM
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Not trolling. 300k is a minimum so you have an escape. Not necessarily retirement. Say you get fired. That 1k per month is a safety net.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 12:36 AM
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It's enough to withdraw $1k pet month indefinitely so it's the minimum needed for financial independence IMO. But it's not going to be a luxurious lifestyle in some cities like New York, Tokyo. It's a safety net. I won't define wealthy because that is subjective.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 12:30 AM
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I do lean libertarian, but I'm mostly apolitical now. I don't believe we individuals can make much of a difference. Unless you're a billionaire, there's not much influence you have over these matters. I remember the days when I was really into politics. I was actually into the MRA movement. But I learned that politics is like an addictive drug. I kept talking about it with people and I was addicted to arguing with people about it, but at the end of the day I didn't have influence over government…
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 04:38 PM
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Regardless of who is in power, they will serve the interests of the powerful. As an individual, you need to adapt and learn to survive in such a world. How do you find freedom in an unfree world?
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 04:02 PM
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Why are you calling me a globalist?
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 04:01 PM
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There is already a political movement focused on individual rights, which is libertarianism (or anarchy). What I mean is that MGTOW is about strategies for an individual. It is a way of living for a man. This differs to, say, libertarianism or conservatism, which has some model for how society should operate, and then it is up to government to coerce people so that they live according to this model of how society is run. MGTOW is no such thing. There is no model of how society should run. If the…
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 03:37 PM
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Have you seen any Herbivore men in Japan?
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 03:12 PM
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There is a saying that salesmen say: "The best salesman can rip you off and leave you with a smile on your face." That is what the gynocracy has done to the blue pill man: ripped him off, made him a slave, and but instead of calling him a slave, he is given him honorable labels like "breadwinner" or "real man." Why tell a slave to do something under the threat of being whipped and have him do a half-ass job when you can use words like "duty" and "responsibility" to make the slave willingly and v…
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 03:02 PM
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Every slave owner wants loyal slaves who work hard and sacrifice themselves to the slave owner. That's what blue pill men do. They work their ass off and get virtually nothing out of it. After the government gets their taxes, bankers get their fees and interest (or landowners get their rent), wife gets her jewelry and Platinum credit card, children get their school fees paid for, the man has hardly anything left.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 02:58 PM
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I've heard many people say that MGTOW is propaganda by "the elites." Why would the elites want men to go their own way? Think about it. When a man works 100 hours a week to subsidize his wife's housewife lifestyle, feed his three kids, and pay his mortgage, who benefits? When the man works like a slave, the government collects tax revenue. When the wife buys shoes, curtains, and clothes, big businesses benefit from higher sales revenue. When the man pays the mortgage, the banks collect interest …
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 01:02 PM
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let's not forget that Herbivore men now encompass 70% of Japan's total population, as well as being responsible for the steep decline of marriage and birth rates in every culture in every nation on every continent on the planet. This is why the feminists, the government, the bankers, the traditionalists, the establishment, etc all fear MGTOW. It works. It is revolutionary that an ideology that promotes doing nothing can achieve everything.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 12:56 PM
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Coterie MGTOW - On Chasing Money, Not Women
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 12:51 PM
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Wouldn't stop them from divorcing you (if you marry).
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 12:39 PM
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Once you are trapped in a prison, you start to wish that those outside the prison are imprisoned with you. Crab mentality.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 12:13 PM
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Watch out!!!! Generally speaking, anything political is not MGTOW! MGTOW is about individual self-improvement. It is NOT about sacrificing yourself to some belief system, which is what all other ideologies are about, e,g. feminism, traditional conservatism, etc. MGTOW is about you. How can you improve yourself.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 12:11 PM
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Keep reading more about MGTOW, and watch MGTOW videos on YouTube. Read and watch as much as you can. Now that it's the holiday period, you have time. More knowledge won't hurt you, and it may save your life one day.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 12:03 PM
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I recommend investing in ETFs. Diversify globally, so invest in US stocks but also foreign stocks as well. And just in case it all comes tumbling down, diversify into gold mining stocks, physical gold ETFs, and cash.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 11:39 AM
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Back in the days when I was dating women, money flew out of my wallet like crazy. The solution to becoming wealthy is MGTOW. Simply by going MGTOW you plug the leak in your wallet where money is flowing out. Had I gone MGTOW earlier (say in my early twenties) I would be even wealthier. I am in my late twenties now and only have been MGTOW for about two years. Bottom line is to go MGTOW and live a minimalist lifestyle. Get Netfix. There is documentary now called MINIMALISM or just watch YouTube v…
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 11:36 AM
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Do this.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 12:19 PM
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It's tough. Try to find a way to escape, but I understand if you don't because a slave who escapes may be a victim to the wrath of his master. In other words, divorce could destroy you, so you need to weigh the pros and cons of divorce and if the cons are greater than the pros then I'm afraid you need to stay married. Make sure your sons go MGTOW!
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 11:54 AM
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This is why men absolutely must go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 11:38 AM
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But they do happen.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 04:26 AM
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There are many white women to go up to white men and say, "Protect me from the big bad black man! Marry me!"
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 04:21 AM
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Be financially independent first. Then once you are living off your investments, dedicate your life to some higher purpose or mission. Only you can choose what that purpose is, but financial independence comes first, and that can easily be achieved by going MGTOW. MGTOW allows a man to achieve financial independence quickly without working hard. Success is not necessarily about being busy or doing something. Rather, it is about avoiding mistakes, mistakes such as marriage and children. MGTOW is …
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 04:14 AM
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You must study MGTOW more. PUA is not the way to go. You will waste an incredible amount of money, time, and effort that you could but putting into something that builds you up into a better person rather than building up the self-esteem of some entitled lady. While it is the holidays, I encourage you to engage in MGTOW binging. Do a search of MGTOW on YouTube and turn on autoplay. Binge watch plenty of MGTOW videos and come away with wisdom. Over time, you apply the lessons of MGTOW in your lif…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 04:05 AM
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Men who date women nowadays are entertainer monkeys. Why subject yourself to such a degrading life? Begging and pleading and entertaining women just to get a whiff of their hair aroma and a taste of their vaginal juices? No, that is not the way to live. No wonder MGTOW is trending.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 04:00 AM
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I dabbled in PUA back in the day. The amount of money I spent was insane. After going MGTOW, I had an incredible amount of cash leftover and was able to invest it and become financially independent. I now live off dividends and dedicate my life to trying to free fellow men from slavery simply by going MGTOW. By going MGTOW, you are able to quickly achieve financial independence without working hard. PUA is nothing more than being a clown to women. Even Roosh V admits this in his article titled "…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 03:50 AM
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We have to be more accountable for our money to the IRS than a woman does with child support, the father and state. That's wrong. MRAs' idea of accountability is pleading with government and women to change laws. Women and government simply refuse and then spit on them. How does a kingpin make sure that those who work underneath him are accountable? If a worker doesn't do the job right, he gets shot in the head. That is accountability. If the government doesn't give the people what it wants, how…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 03:20 AM
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Don't fall for the naturalistic fallacy. Nature is gone. We live in a different world now. This is the mistake many traditionalists make. They look back many centuries or millennia and try to recreate what happened in the past, but the world has moved on, and what applied then does not apply now. You must adapt. MGTOW is the latest and most cutting edge adaptation strategy for men. It guarantees a life free of exploitation and slavery.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 03:14 AM
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You need to be very careful about false rape allegations. If you have sex with a woman who is not a registered sex worker, you need to have her sign a sex contract and then record the sex act with your own video camera. Even if you do this, it still doesn't guarantee you'll be fully protected in a court of law. An excellent video on this comes from Coterie. Every man needs to see this video as it lays out how dangerous and risky sex with women can be, as false rape allegations can absolutely des…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 03:02 AM
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As a man matures, he starts to see things for what they are. Little boys believe in Santa but as they grow and become men they stop believing in Santa. Likewise, as a man matures enough, he becomes MGTOW and stops believing in women. The problem is that marriage is designed to trap men before they wise up.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:56 AM
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The best promoters of MGTOW are women themselves.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:34 AM
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Brother, don't worry about it. The future is hard to predict. You are worrying about issues many generations away, and you have no idea how things will pan out in the future. Many things can change. You need to think about yourself right now and in your immediate future. Why risk marriage when you can go MGTOW and not have to risk divorce rape? Why work like a slave just to hand over your cash to a narcissistic woman who is so entitled she expects you to subsidize her luxurious housewife lifesty…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:29 AM
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Immigration is only a bandaid solution. Those Muslim men will become MGTOWs over time because they live under European and Canandian divorce laws.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:25 AM
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While Im not arguing against the logic behind that statement, I still like the comforts of modern society (food, running water, internet, security, etc.). Maybe a collapse is not that great of a deal. Going MGTOW does not necessarily mean you become a minimalist off-the-grid MGTOW. There are many different types of MGTOWs. Many MGTOWs enjoy the comforts of modern society, e.g. the Mayor of MGTOWN (search him on YouTube) has a sports car and lives in the Hollywood hills. Going MGTOW means that th…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:17 AM
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Exactly! Why give back to a society that exists only to treat you like a resource to be exploited?? Why subject yourself to crushing backbreaking work all so you can hand your cash to an entitled women so she can live the luxurious housewife lifestyle and play with the children who will grow up and continue the cycle of exploitation! End the cycle and go MGTOW!!!!
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:10 AM
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MGTOW is happening everywhere, not just among Western society. For example, the Herbivore men in Japan have utterly destroyed birthrates there and the Japanese government is freaking out. MGTOW works because you cannot destroy it. As Medgar Evers said, "You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea." MGTOW is an idea, and it is indestructable. It does not involve any self-sacrifice at all. You go MGTOW and gain freedom and immense wealth for very little effort. You send a message to a corrupt a…
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:07 AM
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Holy crap, MGTOW is spiking!!!!
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:04 AM
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What can women do to fix society? The problem is with women and their hypergamy. There's no fix to it other than if they stop being hypergamous, which I don't think will happen.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 02:00 AM
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Alt-center, postmodern traditionalist, etc..... That is a total mess and makes no sense. It gives me a headache just reading it. Ultimately politics is about divide and conquer. Get people arguing and present two options both of which keep those in power still in power. It is Law 31 of the 48 Laws of Power: Control the Options – Get others to Play with the Cards you Deal. http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com.au/2011/05/law-31-control-options-get-others-to.html The fact that the Trump administrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 05:00 AM
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Or just no or little reproduction. The positive in all of this is that the environment may get better if population growth slows.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 11:15 PM
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If all those examples don't make you go MGTOW, nothing will.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 11:13 PM
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Once you've had kids, you need to treat them well. Teach them to go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 11:09 PM
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True. There is only thing stopping men from being completely free and living off interest, and that is marriage, children, etc. The traditional lifestyle is what enslaves men.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 10:50 PM
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Don't commit suicide! Just go MGTOW. Spread MGTOW so that other young men can be saved.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 10:44 PM
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Red pill rage is understandable. Young men realize the reality of hypergamy and freak out because they have been taught to believe in romantic love and self-sacrifice, etc, when in reality romantic relationships or marriage is about exploitation, status, money, resources, etc. These young men need to be pushed in the right direction so their lives improve. Never marry. Never have children. Work and keep your money to yourself. Seek freedom.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 10:41 PM
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When men do go their own way, women will need to be independent. They will need to learn how to do that.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 10:29 PM
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Freedom is not free. It comes at a price. That price is $300,000. SWR = 4% of $300k = $1000 per month = live like a king in Chiang Mai --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ly6rqSL_pc
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 12:39 PM
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I kinda hope the world ends you know? Just scrub this rock clean of all the humans on it. Our animal pals seem to be more well adjusted than us. Go MGTOW. Don't have any kids. They're really expensive anyway.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 12:34 PM
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Same. Double Dragon, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Legend of Zelda, Quake, Unreal, Starcraft, Half Life... Good fun playing it with friends and siblings. Nostalgia!!!!
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 12:32 PM
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Welcome. How is your Christmas going? Have you become MGTOW? How did you become MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 12:30 PM
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As a low status man, many people will spit on you and disrespect you. This is something you'll need to get over. You need to stop looking for validation from others. Forget what women think about you. Forget what society thinks you should do in order to attract women. Just do what you want for yourself. Find some purpose in life and go for it. For example, do what Angry MGTOW does and make eight to nine MGTOW videos per day on YouTube and make money from that. We live in the 21st century when we…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 09:12 AM
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Just go MGTOW and advocate MGTOW online. The world is overpopulated. There are too many people in this world. The world will be a better place with fewer people. Going MGTOW means you don't waste your cash on a traditional housewife or children, which means you make more money, which is a personal benefit for yourself, and there are benefits for the world as well. Feeling sexually aroused? Masturbate to porn or visit a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 09:06 AM
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I visit r/MGTOW and watch MGTOW videos on YouTube often because it reminds me why I should abstain from female intimacy (except e.g. via sex workers). I forget because I interact with many women, many of them beautiful, and because romantic love is heavily promoted in Hollywood movies. When the temptation is there to indulge in female intimacy, I control the urge by coming home and binge watching MGTOW videos on YouTube. An effective man is a man who can control his emotions and suppress his nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 08:50 AM
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Great!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:31 AM
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It's true. Many of the jobs that went to men in the past will disappear, and this will hurt many men. MGTOW is the obvious solution. These men, without any money, may need to settle with little money, and therefore they will need to live a frugal life in order to afford to live. Having a traditional housewife and children doesn't come cheap, so men who don't earn enough will need to go MGTOW. At the same time, many of the nerdy men who are interested in mathematics and computer science are not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 07:23 AM
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Some MGTOWs may be MGTOWs because they are ugly. Some aren't. It doesn't matter. There are many who attempt to shame MGTOWs by calling them losers because they don't want to play the game. Not all games are worth playing. It is possible to stab yourself in the arm with a dagger in just the right way so that you avoid all major vessels and nerves, and if you do this right, you will survive and live. But that doesn't mean you should stab yourself in the arm with a dagger, and people who don't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:31 AM
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The game is not the game of life. It's relationships/marriage. That's the game MGTOWs are not playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:28 AM
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Many MGTOWs do go into monk mode, but many also talk about it a lot as a way to remind themselves. It's positive reinforcement. There are also many MGTOWs who believe that MGTOW will save the lives of young men out there and make the world a better place, so their lives are dedicated to MGTOW activism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 03:27 AM
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Simply being MGTOW will save you a lot of money. I remember the days when I was dating women. Money would fly from my wallet like water from a waterfall. All the dinners you pay for, the flowers and chocolate, the movie tickets, vacations, and so forth. Then if you're really unlucky and the relationship goes well, you pay for the $20k engagement ring, the $60k wedding, and then you've got to buy a house for her, which means $20k per year in mortgage interest alone, and then when you have kids th…
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 03:03 AM
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Like that's going to happen.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:56 AM
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Yes please. Machines are like dogs. They are trustworthy and reliable. The same cannot be said about humans. Not having children is a vote against humanity. Make your vote count, and save $400,000 in the process as well.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:47 AM
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Lower population growth fixes many problems in the world. Not having babies and living the MGTOW lifestyle also gives you immense wealth and freedom, so it's good for society and good for you personally as well. I know of a man in his 40s who is in middle management who is single, never married, and childless, and he drives a Lamborghini Huracan and always wears luxury clothes. He has zero debt. Meanwhile, his peers with similar modest incomes are all married but are drowning in debt, always str…
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:35 AM
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Yes, a drop in population is bad for the economy because there are not enough workers to pay taxes for old people. However, this can be addressed by taxing workers more or by increasing immigration, so it's not a huge problem. The governments will work it out.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:33 AM
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The Herbivore men there are making a difference. A drop in population is a good thing. To not have children is a vote of no confidence in the society. It also gives you freedom and wealth.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:28 AM
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As a MGTOW, this is painful to read. Why put in all this effort to appease women like an entertainer monkey and bow down to them just so they can lord over you and, like a Roman emperor deciding whether a gladiator lives or dies, she decides whether to reward you with sex or not? Be a real man, pay for it, and be done with it.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 02:18 AM
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True. It's important to question the status quo or the prevailing thinking.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 02:10 AM
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I'd be careful about positive thinking. Most marriages begin because of positive thinking. Think about what could go wrong. Take action to address those risks.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 02:08 AM
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The worst position to be in is when you're pleading with others and asking them to change their behaviour because it's very easy for them to refuse and very hard for you to plead or beg. When a fat woman says, "We need to stop treating fat women badly" she is pleading for others to change their behaviour, and they can easily not comply. But this is why MGTOW is superior to any other ideology. MGTOW does not plead with anyone for anything. MGTOW is about what you do for yourself, not what other d…
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 08:49 AM
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Traditionalism is wrong. Traditionalism holds that you do what was done in the past, but what was done in the past may not hold today. You cannot marry today. To do so is suicide. You expose yourself to immense risk. You waste a ton of money. The divorce lawyers will be all over you. Better to stay single and focus on your career, keep a healthy distance from women by only having short-term relationships with them, or using sex workers or sugar babies. This minimizes the risks and imposes a stop…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 11:02 AM
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The best career advice I can give is to always give value. Also don't work too hard because then you'll stress out, which is bad for your health. Just consistently and constantly add value everywhere. Look for problems and solve them. Find a better way to do things. Also, investing is important. Everything you earn from work should be invested, and you should live off dividends. You can achieve this easily if you ignore all relationships, never get married, and never have children. These are all…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 10:57 AM
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These men claim to understand female nature, yet they give women exact what they want.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 10:41 AM
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Now that you've got experience, spread your wisdom so that you may save a young man.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 10:24 AM
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Many teens are going MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:55 AM
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Why would you think Islam will take over? I doubt that will ever happen. Think about more important matters, such as divorce rape.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:53 AM
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I just Googled "MGTOW india" and was surprised at how fast MGTOW is spreading in India. Just goes to show MGTOW is universal! AWALT.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:52 AM
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Steroids? Cheaper, easier, and healthier to just go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:47 AM
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Don't commit suicide. Just go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:43 AM
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As far as I'm concerned MGTOW is not left or right because both the left and right are gynocentric. Left versus right is designed to give people the illusion of choice. Don't fall for it.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:40 AM
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No, marriage does not guarantee sex. The only thing marriage does is allow no-fault divorce.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:38 AM
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Online MGTOW activism.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:30 AM
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I agree, but Elliot's manifesto is a very good read and gives you an idea of how powerful the gynocracy is in the world. It also gives you an appreciation of how much PUAs worship pussy.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:28 AM
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Ellliot Rodger's manifesto was a great read. I loved reading it.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:26 AM
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She's going to cook, clean, and love you for free? I just find it hard to believe any woman would do that because they could simply work as chefs, cleaners, or prostitutes and earn money, so I'd expect them to expect some form of payment from their husbands, and this is why you cannot separate female hypergamy from traditionalism.
/r/MGTOW17/12/16 05:19 AM
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Usually when a woman bags feminism, she's doing so because she's trying to sell traditionalism. Whether you opt for feminism or traditionalism, you end up with gynocentrism.
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 12:36 PM
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This is the problem with women. They say one thing and mean something else and you're expected to read their minds and know what they mean. It's so stupid. No wonder men are going MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 12:18 PM
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Walk into a brothel. Pay cash. Give a fake name.
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 12:04 PM
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I recommend living far away in cheap locations and commuting. Either that or living with your parents.
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 11:43 AM
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Everyone will have different circumstances. Someone like Paris Hilton will not put much effort in and will have a lot of wealth. Others will need to put in much more effort to achieve a fraction of the wealth Paris has. However, you don't control that, so it should not occupy your thoughts. Don't focus on what you cannot control. Focus on what you can control. You can control how much effort you put into work. Simply apply consistent and constant effort. Keep applying for jobs, keep training, ke…
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 11:40 AM
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Work is a necessary evil. Just do it. If you're a MGTOW, thankfully you don't have to do much of it before you have enough to retire. The cost of living is low. The cost of women is high. The problem with blue pill men is that they think the cost of living includes the cost of women, which means the cost of living is perceived to be high. Really it is not. Don't get married, don't have children, live a minimalist lifestyle, and invest as much as possible. Once you reach the point where you are a…
/r/MGTOW16/12/16 11:33 AM
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Depends which home or apartment. Where I live, apartments in the city are far more expensive than homes out in the country simply because of location.
/r/MGTOW14/12/16 10:23 AM
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One option is to be her girlfriend and then suddenly act like a really nice guy and then she will dump you.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:27 PM
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I had a sin to confess. I love watching romantic films, such as the Princess Bride. But whenever I feel romantic and lust after women after watching one of those movies, I always immerse myself in some MGTOW on the internet to detox myself and feel normal again.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:22 PM
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I ate some yesterday
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:17 PM
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curiosity
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:15 PM
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True presented as a lie
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:15 PM
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Marriage is a trap. Sex is the bait. Money is blood, and it oozes out from your body after you've fallen into the trap. You're still alive and in pain, with blood flowing from your body. Then you die.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:11 PM
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Exactly. There are plenty of anti-feminist women out there who brag about how traditional they are. They are doing whatever they can to get men back on the plantation. Behind all the talk about how traditional they are and how bad feminists are, effectively what these women are saying is, "Give me your money!"
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:05 PM
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This is a MGTOW's worst nightmare. Consider getting a lawyer. Once it's over, be careful with women. Coterie MGTOW recommends recording phone conversations with women and always asking a girl you're going to have sex with to sign a sex contract. This is what the world has come to. Be careful. This is why MGTOW is now the only option left. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Vui76cCCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTtGv6B4mqo
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 12:01 PM
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Blue pill men think women are innocent and divine creatures and men should sacrifice themselves and appease them. Red pill men think women are manipulative and deceitful yet men should sacrifice themselves and appease them. MGTOWs think women are manipulative and deceitful and men should not sacrifice themselves or appease them.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 11:26 AM
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should be a new meme or hashtag
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 11:20 AM
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Do not conform.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 11:19 AM
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Both those forums are sad.
/r/MGTOW13/12/16 11:10 AM
1

it's the love hearts, isn't it?
/r/MGTOW09/12/16 12:47 PM
7

Forget dates. Walk into a brothel.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 10:57 AM
1

Let the MRAs boycott this. I'm watching Star Wars and buying Disney stock.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 10:46 AM
7

Don't feel nostalgia for the old days. The old days were a fraud. Don't cohabitate, don't marry, and don't have children.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 07:08 AM
1

If others don't want to listen, they don't want to listen. Let reality teach them. Focus on yourself and stay MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 11:19 PM
1

Good advice on health and exercise, but the tribalism stuff is useless. I have good black friends and I know of many horrible white people.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 11:11 PM
1

I am not religious, but isn't this an issue with people rather than the religion itself?
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 10:57 PM
1

I agree. There is great wisdom there, but there is also a lot of crap. Just take what is good.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 10:55 PM
2

There are moments I desire children and there are moments I hate children. Some children are completely annoying and make me want to scream, but some children are very polite and cute. However, you only need to dig deeper and ask the father about the cost of the children, the responsibility, etc. It costs about $30k per year or $400k in total to look after a child, and if you are in any way concerned about financial security then children are not a good idea. Children can be taken away from you …
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 10:48 PM
2

I am guessing you want to look after others, which is something I can relate to, but you don't need to have children. You can help out and give guidance to young men out there either in real life or on the internet. This is great because you can give advice but not be responsible. You are like an uncle rather than a parents. You are like a consultant versus a manager. You are giving advice rather than changing nappies. Give it a try. Take your wisdom about women, etc and convert it into ebooks, …
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 10:41 PM
2

This is why, when you're earning money, you need to save it up so that you are able to retire. Having a woman or having children does not help you save up.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 10:36 PM
1

I do recommend moving in with your parents to save money.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 10:23 PM
2

Everyone comes with you.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:30 AM
1

If you care about other people caring about you, you will do anything to make others care for you, which means you become a slave.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:25 AM
1

Many words have the same meaning but seem positive or negative depending on which you use. Commitment phobia = desire for freedom Responsibility, duty = slavery
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:21 AM
20

This analogy is falling apart. Cars don't sue you and take half your assets.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:18 AM
9

It's fine so long as you don't sign a contract that forces you to keep your new car forever.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:17 AM
7

That is the main problem with marriage.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:16 AM
6

MGTOW is the only true movement. MGTOW is different to other movements because MGTOW does not ask anyone to sacrifice themselves for others. Every other movement has some shadowy person or group of persons benefiting while asking adherents to sacrifice themselves. MGTOW is different. He who preaches MGTOW doesn't benefit. The listener benefits. It is true brotherhood.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:13 AM
3

There's lots of MGTOW knowledge on YouTube. I often do a YouTube search for MGTOW and restrict to videos uploaded for the day so that I watch the latest videos. I watch on the TV whenever I eat dinner. It's remarkable how much knowledge you absorb that is directly applicable to your life.
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 11:11 AM
13

Let's not hate or hurt women. Just ignore them.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 01:07 PM
3

Try to put a positive spin on it. At least human extinction will end all human suffering.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 01:05 PM
3

Those Illuminati elites are taking a hell of a long time destroying civilization. Can you tell them to hurry?
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 01:02 PM
6

Children lock a man in because she can simply divorce and collect alimony. If the man is locked in, why lure him with sex? He's already trapped.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 12:52 PM
5

Yes, go MGTOW. Don't talk about it to anyone or you will be discriminated again. But when you watch TV, watch MGTOW YouTube videos. Read about MGTOW as well. Educate yourself.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 12:44 PM
1

I recommend an online broker. Once you have set this up, you can buy stocks or ETFs. Once you purchase, the company sends mail to you seeking bank details so they have a place they can send dividends or distributions. Keep all documents they give you and at the end of the year give it all to an accountant.
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 07:05 AM
2

Maybe teach her how to go WGTOW? If a man can live independently, why can't a woman?
/r/MGTOW26/11/16 07:03 AM
1

The Australian banking sector is currently paying well.
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 09:19 PM
2

Yes, laws do affect us, but individualism versus collectivism is about how an individual prioritizes. An individual considers what is best for himself whereas a collective consider what is best for the collective. In life we face this trade off. Some example, if you have a baby, you may benefit the country or the government because it addresses the ageing population, allowing the government to balance its books by having enough young people to tax to pay for the public health costs of old people…
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 09:12 PM
0

Ask yourself if you really need to get into a relationship. Why not just pay a prostitute?
/r/seduction22/11/16 11:41 AM
1

How come you sound like Stephen Hawking? It's a bit disconcerting.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:39 AM
1

What does this have to do with MGTOW? I'm white but I don't care if Muslims or African come into the country. Who is to say a particular Muslim or African I meet is a terrorist, racist or violent criminal? I've travelled to many Muslim and African countries and the people there are very friendly.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:19 AM
2

MGTOW is for men of all races. Because all women are like that, all men are at risk hence MGTOW is relevant for all men.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:08 AM
2

I'm sure many MGTOWs vote for themselves and what benefits them personally, not for what is good for society.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:05 AM
1

I don't get it. What exactly is the difference between patriotism and nationalism?
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:53 AM
1

Epic
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:50 AM
1

You are a social justice warrior.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:47 AM
1

Valkyrie provided a very good explanation for why nationalism is kooky. Nationalism allows you to claim someone else's achievement as your own. Gaining pride and accomplishment over someone else's achievements is the height of stupidity. Imagine if a homeless American man took pride in Donald Trump's wealth because Trump is American. The homeless America man feels proud and accomplished because someone else has done something yet he has not. How stupid is that?
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:43 AM
2

Be clear and explain why a man should prioritize the nation over himself? Remember many nations impose on men through custom the duty to sacrifice himself for the sake of women. If a man defied the expectations imposed upon him by his countrymen by going MGTOW, how is this cowardice? If anything, it is bravery. It is the conformist who marries and subjects himself to divorce rape who is the coward who, rather than think about what he really wants, gives in to peer pressure and conforms.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:37 AM
5

That you are either globalist or nationalist is a false dichotomy. How about individualist versus collectivist? Nationalism and globalism are both collectivist ideologies where the collective is more important than the indivisual. MGTOW is fiercely individualistic. A man goes his own way, not the way of the government, be it a world government or a nation-state.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:32 AM
1

Globalism is government that spans the world. Nationalism is government that spans a portion of the world. It is basically the same thing for a person who is a citizen for that government. Typically this government imposes gynocracy its citizens.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:29 AM
1

Nationalism means you care about your country. Why would a MGTOW care about his country, the very country whose laws oppress him? A MGTOW should be an individualist, not a nationalist. It is men going their own way, not men going the way of the government.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:22 AM
1

It all comes down the the stupid left-right political spectrum.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 09:17 AM
2

I think he means slow collapse. Stock market trending down, economy in deflationary recession, birthrate very low, hikkokomori, etc.
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 11:50 AM
5

girlfriend experience
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 11:47 AM
2

Don't worry too much about it, man. Just go MGTOW. Forget about women.
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 11:41 AM
2

Things may not be as they seem. The woman on the left is a WGTOW who has embraced man's best friend. The woman on the right is trying to breed as many children as possible (and leash them as well) to prepare for a divorce rape so that she can extract as much alimony as possible from the husband and move on to the next blue pill man with whom she will do the exact same thing, i.e. breed, divorce, and collect alimony. Do this a few times and the passive income from alimony will be enough for her t…
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 09:37 AM
1

Being proud of someone else's achievements is pretty stupid.
/r/MGTOW16/11/16 11:32 AM
3

Been reading about Buddhism?
/r/MGTOW16/11/16 11:23 AM
8

Why are women so fat now? What has changed?
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 07:34 AM
10

Jobs are hard to find. When you find a job and earn money, don't waste it on women or starting a family. Invest the money instead so that you don't have to work.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 12:37 AM
5

Don't go to the nightclub.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 12:33 AM
3

I do admit when dealing with a cashier, barista, waitress, etc it's nice to have a pretty young girl serve you, so I understand why businesses would want this. Furthermore, most senior guys like to hire hot young girls because they're fun to be around at work.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 12:06 AM
1

I agree. There are benefits from capitalism.
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 07:06 AM
2

But it is the only economic policy that can preserve the family. This is because capitalism leads to economic growth and with that economic growth comes higher wages. Higher wages mean that there is an opportunity cost to spending time with your family. Why spend one hour with my family or with my child when I can spend one hour earning $1000? Poor countries have extended families. As capitalism progresses, the extended families break up into nuclear families. As capitalism further progresses, n…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 01:07 AM
1

No matter how xyz she may be, you will still give her the time of day even though you might be cautious and have your guard up. I know you will because this is how "normal" men are. It's in our DNA. Sure, but I won't marry her or live with her. I know for a fact that even those who swore off women will still give one a shot should they like her. What do you mean by "giving her a shot"? Do you mean marry her? For me MGTOW is about not marrying and not having babies and not living with her because…
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 12:59 AM
1

To get a job, try going to a job agency. Look up job agencies in your area on the internet and get in contact with them.
/r/MGTOW08/11/16 11:55 AM
1

.... that will get me scorned and rejected by most females. ....all I've ever wanted from women was loyalty, and love and companionship You need to train yourself into not caring what women think of you. I know it is hard, but when you feel like indulging in female intimacy, visit MGTOW forums or watch a few MGTOW videos. It works for me. Any advice? You need to work. You need to be able to afford the basic necessities. It helps that you are not materialistic and are satisfied with "goodwill clo…
/r/MGTOW08/11/16 11:48 AM
2

So what if he's a porn star? Good for him.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 12:35 PM
2

It's a great lube. About the right viscosity. It's also non-toxic.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:39 AM
4

May I suggest extra virgin coconut oil instead.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:24 AM
4

Female hypergamy promotes MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:21 AM
17

Minimalist lifestyle is good. I recommend it.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:19 AM
4

The thought of having surgery on my penis doesn't seem appealing. I don't think it's necessary. If you're just masturbating or visiting reputable sex workers, there's no need to worry about having babies.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:14 AM
2

I've been vegan for a few months now after watching MGTOW 101's videos of Durianrider and Vegan Gains. Unfortunately Vegan Gains recently got married.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:12 AM
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I'm Asian and have only dated Asian girls and they made me go MGTOW. They are the worst. Stay away.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:05 AM
4

This is true. Western men should not go to the East thinking everything is fine there. Feminism and gynocentrism is everywhere. The best option is to never get married to woman at all and go MGTOW. Stay away from them regardless of where they come from.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:02 AM
1

Not much different to the West.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 11:00 AM
8

Reading that gave me a headache. Thankfully I am a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW04/11/16 11:53 PM
6

Your choices become: waste significant time and effort just for a very slim chance to be "the guy" for a very short period of time. Settle for someone very undesirable with tons of baggage, willing to put "the search" on long term hold in exchange for you accepting her. It's lose/lose. 95+ percent chance you will do nothing but waste your time. 5 percent chance you'll be the temporary guy. Or you can settle for something that doesn't make you happy just to not be alone. Or just go MGTOW. Problem…
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 05:47 AM
1

Well done
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 08:04 AM
1

Well said. I think money is much more important than women, but only up to a certain point. Once you have enough money so that you can live comfortably off the interest or dividends and don't need to work anymore, there is little use for accumulating more money, and life from then on should be about doing what you want.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 08:03 AM
2

Consider dedicating your life to making MGTOW YouTube videos.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 07:43 AM
5

Lots of sperm jacking will happen.
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 05:51 AM
2

Instead of relying on a wife to cook and clean, just eat out or drink Soylent. Instead of relying on a wife for sex, just visit a reputable sex worker or get a sugar baby. Or just masturbate.
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 05:47 AM
2

Me too. I'm a dog man!
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 05:41 AM
1

post the link here when it's done
/r/MGTOW29/10/16 06:04 AM
10

Escorts tend to be better in bed because there is a monetary incentive for them to perform better. If the escort performs badly, the client goes elsewhere. However, a married woman doesn't gain much by performing well in bed. If the husband goes elsewhere, the wife can just divorce him and take half or more of his assets. A sex worker cannot simply take away half the client's net worth. Furthermore, not all escorts are crack addicts.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 01:22 PM
10

Welcome to MGTOW!
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 01:03 PM
18

Learn from your mistake. Go MGTOW. Stay MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 11:46 AM
7

Keep trying to find work. Stay away from women. They will only take your money. You should spend your money on yourself.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 11:34 AM
1

If you're a multimillionaire or billionaire, splurging on fine thing is fine. But if you're not, spending money will make you more dependent on work, and your relationship with an employer is like a relationship with a woman. You may be in love one moment, but it doesn't necessarily last forever.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 11:22 AM
2

Consider yourself lucky you discovered MGTOW at 21. Many men discover MGTOW in their 30s or 40s but but by that age they have already been scammed hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more) by women.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 12:25 PM
2

May I make a small suggestion that, instead of buying a sports car, you invest that money instead?
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 12:20 PM
1

Yes I would because I'm sick and tired of women saying "mgtow is for losers who can't get laid" MGTOWs try not to seek female approval. You're trying to improve the perception that woman have of MGTOW. It makes no sense to conform by adopting a nonconformist ideology.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 12:16 PM
38

I've heard of PUAs going into "monk mode" but I suppose they do it to mentally prepare themselves for "entertainer monkey mode" when they start picking up women.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 12:01 PM
6

Problem is, once you live with her for two years, you're treated as married in many countries, and if you live with her, watch out for sperm jacking and other questionable practices. Bottom line is just live by yourself.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 12:31 PM
18

Claiming MGTOWs are ugly men who cannot have sex with women is a common shaming tool used against MGTOWs. Are you so affected by the shaming that you want to push aside ugly MGTOWs just to prove yourself to the shamers?
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 12:28 PM
5

This is why there are so many anti-feminist women out there. They want to return to the days of traditionalism when porn was banned by a religious government. They want to go back to the days when they could be innocent weak housewives who lounge around at home and play with the children while the manslave works his ass off and hands her all his money. These traditionalist women are the worst. They are pure gold diggers.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 07:19 AM
10

Russian men were world class chess players, great mathematicians... they surely would understand how women fail the the cost-benefit analysis.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:43 PM
1

Ghost them all back by going MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:50 AM
7

This is why I try to tell the young men about MGTOW. It makes a big difference in their lives.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:45 AM
1

All that effort, all that money, all that time, and for what?
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:43 AM
3

How can a man tell if a woman will age well in the future? Unless she's drinking heaps of kale shakes, she will probably hit the wall hard.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 10:32 AM
1

MGTOW gives you the time and freedom to explore these things.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 09:51 AM
18

There is only one way you can beat an opponent in a rigged game, and that is to not play.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 09:23 AM
39

They treat you like shit and then expect you to marry a woman and hand over all your cash to her and her children. No more. Go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 09:21 AM
2

The only way a man will be incel is if he is poor. In that case, he just needs to work and save/invest.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:49 PM
9

If you live in America, consider simply jerking off to porn. Every six months or so, fly to a country with legalized and regulated prostitution, such as the Netherlands or Australia, and go the brothels.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:46 PM
2

Yes, if you're ugly then the amount of wining and dining and status symbol flashing you need to do to get sex from a woman via dating or relationships will be higher than the price of a sex worker. Reputable sex workers also won't accuse you of rape or do any shifty sperm jacking.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:44 PM
2

Crack open the laptop and masturbate to porn? What else do you do when you're bugging out?
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:41 PM
1

What is most surprising is that this neo-Nazi sympathizer is himself a non-white Arab.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:14 PM
2

His Return of Kings website now has paid sponsored posts from Six Pack Shortcuts. PUA has been captured by the mainstream gynocracy now. http://www.returnofkings.com/57792/the-top-3-muscles-that-make-women-want-you
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:12 PM
2

He'd using his vast wealth accumulated by not marrying or having children to fly out to another country or hide out in the hills in his underground concrete bunker.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 11:10 PM
1

These women think they don't need men. Then they find out that their friends are driving around in Jaguars all funded by some beta provider, so they want it too, so suddenly they become massive advocates of traditional conservatism and suddenly they want to go back to the stone ages and live a traditional life so they can stay at home all day and dick around and play with the children and shop for shoes while the manslave works all day only to hand all his money to her. This is why men absolutel…
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 02:23 PM
1

By going MGTOW, a man can be earning fairly averages wages and still be rich very quickly simply because he doesn't have to hand a portion of his money to the woman. The problem with marriage or relationships is that once you commit, the payments need to continually be made. Once you are in a relationship with a woman, you got to wine and dine her often and then bring her to vacations, you got to buy her gifts and flowers, etc. Then you buy her a wedding ring, then fund the wedding ceremony, the…
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 01:52 PM
1

You're welcome. How did you learn about MGTOW, may I ask?
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 01:48 PM
4

Amen. MGTOW advocacy matters. The gynocracy wants us to shut up, so they will argue things along the lines of "if you really were MGTOW, you don't care what people think, so why are you talking about the womenzz??" Just respond by saying that MGTOW saves lives and you care about future generations of men. If you don't care, stay silent. If you do, then advocate online!
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 01:46 PM
2

Its already a known fact woman dont use facts they use emotions. I respectfully disagree with this "women feel while men think" narrative. I think we tend to spread this because it boosts our own self-esteem because who wants to be anti-facts? That men continue to fall in love with women and get divorce raped is a sign that men are the ones who are emotional and feel love for women, but women don't care about emotion or love. Rather, they are purely about the cold hard cash and will act hypergam…
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 06:15 AM
1

Marriage is a gamble, so this is the root of the problem: inability to discern risk, costs, and benefits when making decisions.
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 06:05 AM
2

That's sad. Women take advantage of men and exploit them. This is wrong and needs to stop! We must warn men out there and spread the message about MGTOW!!!!
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 06:03 AM
1

When talking MGTOW at work, I don't mention the word MGTOW. Either they will not know what I'm talking about or, if they do, they could start a witchhunt on you. Best thing to do is to use all the arguments for MGTOW but don't actually use the word MGTOW. For example, people always express concern that I am not married. They ask me if I am dating anyone. I respond with, "No, I don't want to get married. Why should I? What benefit is there in getting married?"
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 06:02 AM
2

I understand that when you're attacked, it's normal human behavior to do the exact opposite, but the exact opposite is not always the best. For example, many people are angry with, say, right-wing politics, so they react with left-wing politics. If they're angry with left-wing politics, they react with right-wing politics. But what if both right-wing politics and left-wing politics serve the same agenda? What if both ideologies hurt us? That's what's happening. Both left-wing ideology and right-…
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 05:54 AM
3

MGTOW saves lives. It must be spread like a virus!!
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 05:38 AM
1

As a MGTOW, I don't like talking about race because anyone who talks about race (whether pro or anti race) is irrational. How can feeling proud about a race be rational? It's similar to sport. Many people pay enormous amounts of money to watch a sport and they feel great when someone else playing that sports does well, yet they personally have not achieved anything. The same applies with racism. People take the achievements of others and then feel proud about it yet they have done nothing. As a …
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 01:25 PM
2

Red pill rage is normal, but if it continues for too long it is unproductive. Anger and rage is useless without action. That action is going MGTOW and never marrying thereby giving yourself freedom.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 01:16 PM
5

Crab mentality does apply to MGTOW. Usually married men try to convince other men to marry.
/r/MGTOW14/10/16 01:09 PM
1

Why do we need this forum? To warn young men so they don't suffer. Feminists want to define MGTOW as complete off the grid hermit living because that's what they want. Then there will still be plenty of blue pill men around for them to manipulate. It's similar to how feminists define a "real man" as someone who gets a girlfriend, get married, have children, etc. That just so happens to be what women want.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 01:23 PM
3

MGTOW is not spread via DNA during sex but is an idea that spreads rapidly via the internet.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 01:20 PM
1

No man with money, and even a bit of sense, would marry someone who speaks this way. The problem is, although most women don't speak this way, they think it. Then rich men marry them.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 12:58 PM
1

How can I learn more about these sugar baby employment contracts?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 12:48 PM
1

It's your money, so you can choose what you want to do with it. The main point is that, by not marrying, that money you earn will be 100% yours.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 12:48 PM
2

Just go MGTOW. Trust me.
/r/seduction11/10/16 12:48 PM
1

Consider going MGTOW.
/r/seduction11/10/16 12:48 PM
15

Regardless of how much you'll need to retire (for me, $1 million will do), you'll get there much faster if you don't have a girlfriend, a wife, or any children. Unless, of course, you marry a rich woman, but what are the chances of that?
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 12:41 PM
1

Can someone post a link to this question?
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 11:40 AM
5

Learn more about MGTOW and seek validation from yourself. Who care what women think. Forget them. Don't waste your life seeking to appease women. Do what you want to do. Don't waste your time, effort, and money on women.
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 11:21 AM
4

That's why you never marry. Imagine in your forties all your friends are married to old and fat women, and you, the MGTOW, are renting a teenage sugar baby. Reminds me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3W7g2puKY4
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 11:06 AM
1

http://www.snopes.com/bacca-brides-on-tour/
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 09:32 AM
1

Do something useful and teach him about MGTOW. Tell him to go to r/MGTOW. If you care about the white race or the extinction of the white race or whatever, you cannot be a MGTOW because you need to find a white woman, marry her, and breed like crazy in order to keep the white race growing, and imagine the alimony you'll be paying when she divorces you or, if she doesn't divorce you, how much slavery you'd have to endure just to keep those kids fed and educated. You'd be living paycheck to payche…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:53 PM
1

No it's pretty natural. If I hate someone, I encourage them to marry and have children, and then I feel happy when they complain to me with their tales of slavery.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:42 PM
1

Do you live in Saudi Arabia?
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:39 PM
2

Slaves are happy if their masters don't whip them, but they'd be even happier if they were free men.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:38 PM
1

Seems to me she tries to lock you down with children, marriage, and mortgage, but it didn't work, so that's why she's unhappy. It's like she tried to shackle you but the chains keep breaking.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:35 PM
6

"My soul continually searches for but does not find: among a thousand people I have found one true man, but among all these I have not found a true woman." ~Ecclesiastes 7:28
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:31 PM
1

Welcome to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:10 PM
4

You need education desperately, young man. Find yourself a large block of free time (preferably over the weekend), do a YouTube search for "MGTOW" and binge watch everything with the autoplay function on. Post back here with what you've learned and how it relates to your past and what you anticipate for your future.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 01:01 PM
4

Yes, you can. I personally friendzone many girls. There's no significant risk in being friends with a girl. Stay away from her if she abuses the friendship and starts to use you, e.g. getting you to carry her handbag. Marrying women or even being in a relationship with them carries too much risk, and even dating is a waste of money, and you open yourself up to her judgments. "What do you do for a living?" "Do you manage people?" "Which suburb do you live in?" "What kind of car do you drive?" Suc…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:58 PM
3

I think it's crab mentality.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:53 PM
1

Personally politics is entertaining, but MGTOW to me is about what I can do to benefit myself. If you don't marry, you don't waste $400,000+ on wining and dining women, wedding ceremonies, mortgages on McMansions, diamond rings and other superficial female products, and of course children (the most expensive luxury good there is). Instead, you keep the money for yourself. Personally, I invest in globally diversified ETFs and live off the dividends. I am not dependent on anyone, not even my emplo…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:36 PM
3

Everyone works for someone. Except MGTOWs.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:26 PM
2

If you want to see the future of the West, look at Japan. Feminism has completely taken over that country.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 12:25 PM
1

You need to let go. Romance is dead, or it is a scam designed to hook men into marriage so that women can siphon off money from you. Most men who swallow the red pill are so appalled at the reality of female hypergamy that they engage in red pill rage. This is normal and healthy, but if it endures for too long, the man will spiral into the depths of negativity. He needs to accept the reality of female hypergamy and learn to live with it. He needs to amass wealth for himself and not waste it on w…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 07:29 AM
10

I like it. Well said. Ultimately we men, for too long, have been handing over our cash to women too easily. No more! We keep the money for ourselves and give it to women only if they perform! Marriage is the ultimate scam because a woman gets paid just for doing nothing. She can stay at home as a housewife and get everything paid for. If the manslave doesn't like being a manslave, the woman can just divorce him and destroy him in court, so the fear of this forces the manslave to give up and just…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 07:23 AM
6

If you want loyal love and affection get a dog, if you want pussy go see a prostitute. True, man. Dogs are honest and loyal creatures. They are man's best friends. Women the exact opposite.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 07:19 AM
5

Good job. Focus on just working, and rather than waste money on women and children, just pour all that money into your investments, and you'll be far ahead in terms of wealth compared to someone at your level who decides to go for the wife and children. As a young man, it's easy to feel sexual desire, but this desire can easily be satiated by jacking off to porn. If you crave the flesh, you can visit a reputable sex worker. Because I am a MGTOW, I live off dividends from globally diversified ETF…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 07:15 AM
5

You got to fight this for your son. Don't give up. This gynocracy must be torn down!!
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 05:46 AM
1

Most men don't build cabins. They chase women, kneel in front of her with a ring, enslave themselves, subject themselves to divorce, and then sit down and cry when they realize they've been scammed.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:04 PM
3

To be fair, women use reason to extract cash from men using marriage, and men are scammed into marriage because of their feelings (aka love).
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 01:58 PM
2

Elon Musk is pouring money into ways to unplug humanity from the matrix. He is funding MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 01:55 PM
1

Lower birth rate is the product of wealth. The more money you make as a society, the fewer babies you have because of opportunity cost. If I were unemployed, I have nothing to do, so I may as well just have sex with some girl and pop out babies. If I am earning $1000 per hour, I don't have time to be mucking around with children, and this holds true especially if you're a female earning $2000 per hour. So either we keep women subservient and slaves like they do in dictatorial countries or we giv…
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 11:44 AM
5

I know what you mean. We shouldn't be saying to women, "See, if you had wanted to be a stay-at-home wife and had children, I would have happily married you." The problem with this is that there are plenty of golddigger women out there who want to marry you so they can be stay-at-home wives who lounge around at home and luxuriate, play with the kids, and go shopping for shoes and handbags while you slave away at work to fund her right-wing conservative lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 11:37 AM
3

And you're like an iPhone user who hates non-iPhone users and so try to shame them by calling them poor. But many people don't buy iPhones because they've purchased them before and don't like them or they think other phones are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:26 PM
2

These men have been brainwashed into thinking that the purpose of life is the pursuit of women, that conquering women is success. Someone asked me today what I did over the weekend and I told him I watched YouTube videos. He said, "You should be going out looking for a girlfriend." I asked, "Why should I?" He couldn't provide any substantial answer. It's just what society deems is correct. It's what we're brainwashed into believing. MGTOW teaches you that your life is your life, and you can do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:21 PM
2

I sense in you a desire to shame and put down these men who are unattractive. The problem, I think, lies in courtship rituals that society has in place that are extremely confusing and inefficient. All these dating rules, signalling status, etc. Sex should just be traded efficiently. The problem with marriage is that there is too much expectation. People expect some Disney wedding and romantic love, but marriage is just a really inefficient form of prostitution that pretends to not be prostituti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:13 PM
2

Going your own way is about doing what you want, and many find happiness in spreading the MGTOW message. Those who choose YouTube to spread the message may be doing it for the AdSense cash, but nevertheless many are willing to spread the message for free. It's something they are passionate about, something they truly believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:05 PM
3

I'm sure some MGTOWs do that. They are described as "going ghost." But there are many who are just angry that their idealization of marriage being about love and romance, etc has been shattered by the reality that it is nothing more than glorified prostitution. Personally, I think MGTOW should be spread because it is important for the world. It is important for the welfare of men, and men are vulnerable in this society. We live in a society that seeks to exploit and enslave men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:03 PM
1

Even though I will not marry, I still visit sex workers, and I like to masturbate to porn. I also believe that promoting MGTOW online is important for the world. Marriage laws discriminate against men. Furthermore, the world is quite overpopulated. If people went MGTOW and WGTOW, that might help a little. Not having children is selfish in that you give yourself freedom and wealth, but it is also selfless in that you are not perpetuating a species that will pollute the earth and oppress the anima…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 02:00 PM
0

Is she hot? If so, that's what she's bringing to the table.
/r/MGTOW03/10/16 01:27 PM
3

I don't have one but I am thinking of getting a dog. I love dogs, and I love animals in general because they are very honest and you know what you get. Humans (and women in particular) are different.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 11:02 AM
2

I agree with you. But MGTOW is the solution. MGTOW will make you happier, it will give you freedom, and if you don't have any children, you will contribute to population decline, which will help the environment and reduce the amount of human depravity there is out there.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 11:02 AM
1

You need to plant the MGTOW seed in a young man's head. Then after he's been hypergamied by a few women, the MGTOW seed grows. But we MGTOW need to be out there online dropping the MGTOW acronym everywhere, especially where young men are. The seeds need to be planted.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 10:16 AM
2

I want to get the message out there. I am all over YouTube trying to drop the MGTOW acronym everywhere so that it sparks curiosity. It matters! We must spread it and save vulnerable young men out there!
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 10:15 AM
5

For me sexual desire is like hunger. You feed it and move on. The best tools to satiate these desires are Soylent and sex workers.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 07:24 AM
5

Given that women make up over 50% of the population and given that we live in democracies, it doesn't make sense that women will vote to give up control. They will vote for policies that allow them to control men and extract their resources. Hence unless you live in some dictatorship that controls women, marriage will always be a bad deal, and the optimal strategy for men living in democracies is MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 12:48 PM
10

Who does a larger population benefit ? Business and government. More revenue: revenue from sales and revenue from taxation.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 12:47 PM
9

Any man who marries is an idiot. He will lose millions of dollars in expenses, drown in debt, and be a wage slave to big business and the government. However, if a man goes MGTOW, his life is filled with freedom and incredible wealth and luxury.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 12:41 PM
3

What's next? MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 04:41 AM
3

Some of the blame needs to go to the dude. He could have used that $600 and got a really good sex worker. He was scammed!
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 04:39 AM
2

Instead of using this app, you can just have a dinner with a friendzoned female and then after the dinner walk into a brothel.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 04:34 AM
7

This small incident plays out identically on a larger scale. The parents, of course, are the government.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 01:57 AM
2

Are you allowed to take time off where you work? If so, ask to take, say, six months off. You can tell your employer you're stressed or whatever. Then go to Asia and see how it is. If it turns out you don't like it, come back.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 12:24 AM
3

Just don't marry these women. Be careful. All women are the same. You can have fun with them. Just watch out.
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 12:21 AM
1

Sure. I recommend having about US$1000 per month generated from passive income such as rental income and living in Chiang Mai. There is a big digital nomad scene there. You can do freelance work in coworking spaces there and live a great life. One such digital nomad is Sean Lee: https://www.youtube.com/user/1MINaDAY
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 12:12 AM
3

Then don't get married because marriage is not relaxing.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 02:26 PM
1

Masturbate. It's free. Once you can afford the sex workers, pay for it.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 02:25 PM
2

All MGTOW should choose if he wants to advocate it to others or not. Personally, I want to advocate it. That's why I'm online. I think it gives me purpose and meaning in life, and I think that a MGTOW world would be a better world. The first step in advocating MGTOW online, in my opinion, is to find areas where there are many young men. Young men are the ones we need to target. Many young men are hovering towards alt-right ideologies. I go to message board, YouTube videos, blogs, subreddits, etc…
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 01:56 PM
4

Masturbation is good, in my opinion. Women use sex to control men. If you masturbate, they don't control you. That's why women and society shame those who masturbate.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 01:52 PM
2

This illustrates why men need to go MGTOW. Personally I never even bother with a relationship with women. I'll friendzone them or interact with them for business, but never be in a romantic relationship and never ever marry them. If you're sexually aroused, jerk off using extra virgin coconut oil while watching porn or pay a reputable sex worker. Men need to protect themselves in this fully corrupted society. You have been warned!!
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 12:47 PM
7

Agreed. If you're not paying for it, you'll pay for it.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 12:30 PM
5

It's wishful thinking. The only way a slave can feel good about himself is to convince himself that he is better than free men. For women, they want to believe that they have power over men owing to their sexuality.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 12:28 PM
2

What country allows this?
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 12:27 PM
1

MGTOWs would be concerned about common law marriage risks. If you want to split costs, you can find a roommate.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 12:41 PM
3

Exactly. MGTOW is a get-rich-quick scheme that actually works. And it is a scheme that proves that you don't have to work hard to make money. A MGTOW makes money by not working, i.e. not buying women gifts, not wining and dining women, not buying them diamond rings, not giving them a Disney wedding, not having children, not buying her a mansion, and so forth. Too many men have it in their mind that they need to be go-getters who get out there and do stuff in order to be successful when in realit…
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 12:35 PM
3

I agree. These FI guys are so pro-marriage. They wouldn't dare spend $12 per month on a Netflix subscription because they think they can get free books from the local library, and then you have stupid ideas like the "latte factor" that states that you save money by not buying a $4 soy latte. But then these people splurge $10,000 on an engagement ring, $40,000 on a wedding ceremony, and $400,000 on a child. Penny smart, pound foolish. The way you achieve financial independence is by focusing on t…
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 12:31 PM
4

This is why playing video games rather than going out and getting a girlfriend or a wife is not "wasting your time." You can literally make money simply due to the fact that video games are much cheaper (and more entertaining) than women thereby allowing you to retire early and escape the rat race fast.
/r/MGTOW27/09/16 12:26 PM
2

If you want to masturbate, use your hand instead, and use coconut oil as lubricant. The reason why I wouldn't use a fleshlight or any other sex toy is detailed in the video below: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/avoiding-adult-exposure-phthalates/
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 01:21 PM
3

There's no harm in trying again other than wasting a bit of time and money. Just don't commit to anything. If it keeps failing, MGTOW is vindicated.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 01:13 PM
1

If you were simply broke, you just try to make money. Find a job, do retail arbitrage online, etc. But if you had alimony payments, even if you did make money, you got to pay her.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 06:38 AM
9

All women are prostitutes. Don't complain. Just accept it. The question is whether you pay the right price.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 03:03 AM
1

Sex workers
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 02:59 AM
19

Being broke would be horrible, in my opinion, but making lots of money only to give it all to the women is just as bad. Some may say it's worse.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 02:59 AM
1

I'm in my early thirties, male, and single. I've been in two relationships and they have been quite bad. The first girl wanted me to buy her a mansion in an expensive suburb. The second girl wanted me to buy her expensive handbags. Perhaps not all women are like that, but we humans naturally adjust to painful experiences. If we touch a hot stove and get burnt, we don't do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 02:45 AM
1

Women already benefit from selling their sexuality. It's not via the internet though but via marriage. You need to get in fast because more and more men are going MGTOW, so the pot of gold is shrinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:18 AM
3

This is the reality of the sexual market place, and it can only change if drastic measures are taken. What are you suggesting? I think the best (and easiest) thing for men to do is to just go MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:14 AM
0

I don't think I want children. Maybe in the future I might reconsider. However, if you wanted children, why not go to a poor country, find a girl, impregnate her, and then pay her a certain amount per month to raise the child. You can transfer the money to her using Bitcoin. Just a thought. The reason why women in the West are such a headache is because they are used to being around rich men, so they expect more. They expect a man to have a luxury car, a mansion, and so forth. If you find girls …
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 07:39 AM
4

That is sad. You can tell the guy is in pain at the moment because he is trying to numb his pain with porn and video games. Once the divorce goes ahead, he'll be in more pain. This is why online MGTOW advocacy is so important. I find that going to forums and message boards popular with men and casually dropping the MGTOW acronym invokes curiosity, and they do their own research and find out more about MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 07:07 AM
1

I definitely identify with MGTOW and definitely want to go my own way. However, I do admit that I feel shame when someone attacks me. I try to repress those feelings but it is not full repression. I think it is just human nature to feel offended when someone tries to shame you. Indifference is the ideal, but in practice you try to minimize the shame as much as possible. Once I have saved up enough money by living a shameful life (living with parents, never going out, never getting a girlfriend, …
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 02:00 PM
2

True. Your primary residence should be as small as possible because you cannot rent your primary residence out so you are wasting money on it. With all your spare cash, put it into REITs or other ETFs.
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 11:47 AM
1

Is she ok?
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 02:18 PM
2

If you're intelligent, you'll realize that the impact of your high IQ on average human IQ is negligible, so you wouldn't bother having children just to raise human IQ.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 01:49 PM
2

All women are the same. Basically you have to pay for sex. All women are prostitutes. Just go to an actual prostitute. It's faster, simpler, and most efficient.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 01:46 PM
2

What you have just described is the final stage of evolution for a enlightened man: MGTOW.
/r/TheRedPill22/09/16 01:33 PM
2

I had two relationships in my twenties and they didn't work out. I felt a bit ashamed that all my friends were marrying but I wasn't. Then in my early thirties I heard about MGTOW online and I realized I'd been manipulated into thinking I needed to get married, so I quit trying.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 01:02 PM
3

Be a freelancer.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 12:57 PM
1

I'm not 100% on Soylent. I eat a sandwich at work for lunch as well as coffee, tea, bananas, etc. I sometimes eat out. Otherwise, I drink Soylent. I never cook or clean anything, never have, and never will. Women are also telling me I need to get married because I need a woman to cook for me. I just tell them I drink Soylent, so I don't need them at all. I am also vegan, but I don't tell anyone (except here).
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 01:41 PM
1

If you're not paying for it, you'll pay for it.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 11:49 AM
1

I need porn.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 11:43 AM
1

You need to save him. Maybe chat with him and casually mentioned that you have stumbled upon some MGTOW websites. Hopefully he will do his own research and save himself. You just need to plant the seed.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 11:41 AM
7

Most days I do nothing but work hard, spend little, drink Soylent, promote MGTOW on the internet, watch Netflix or YouTube, go to the gym, and sleep. No marriage, no relationships, no children, no debt, no conformity, no slavery.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 03:56 PM
2

As far as I know, MGTOW is not heritable. There is no MGTOW gene. Just because non-MGTOWs keep having children, it doesn't mean those children will be non-MGTOWs. We just need to educate them through social media. Likewise, even if MGTOWs have children, maybe our children will turn non-MGTOW once they meet a beautiful woman and then renounce MGTOW. MGTOW spreads not via sexual reproduction but via YouTube, reddit, Google, blogs, forums, etc.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 03:48 PM
1

No, MGTOWs will be fine because they've shielded themselves from the corruption, and children of non-MGTOWs can go MGTOW if we encourage them to. We just need to spread the word.
/r/MGTOW16/09/16 03:44 PM
-1

Because judges are usually men who cannot resist a crying woman. I admit if I were a judge and saw a young girl crying, I'd hand over all the man's assets to her. Serves the guy right for marrying.
/r/MGTOW11/09/16 03:29 PM
7

Passing shit tests in order to suck up to women is what PUAs do. MGTOWs walk away.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 01:33 PM
2

They're not stupid. They just want the cash. Men who hand it over to them are the stupid ones.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 01:28 PM
1

Fart jokes are interesting because all cultures and ethnicities find it funny. The same applies with hypergamy. All women are hypergamous regardless of race or ethnicity.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 01:26 PM
1

Spread the word!
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 01:51 PM
1

Poor guy
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 08:42 AM
2

That's going too far, I think. I don't tell people I'm MGTOW, but lying about being married is far too much work because you have to keep all your lies consistent. Easier to just tell the truth, e.g. "I don't want to get married. What's the point?"
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 06:42 AM
2

I've never tested this out in practice, so I don't know if it will work or not. You are right that I have forgotten about electricity costs. That being said, going out into the country is just one option in my head. Another option is going to Chiang Mai where US$1000 per month allows you to live like a king. I got this idea to use Chiang Mai as a safety net from watching the video below from Sean Lee Minimal Pro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v3YIyTkHEY There are plenty of "digital nomads" in…
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 06:16 AM
1

Not me me, guys. I'm a Soylent man, although it reminds me of this commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfojkchY250
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 06:03 AM
2

Fuck you money is absolutely integral to MGTOW, in my opinion. For me, I have calculated FU money to be $1000 per month, which requires about $300k in investments. There are three necessities: (1) shelter, (2) food, and (3) wifi. Shelter is $500 per month based on the rent on a one bedroom house way out in the country. Food is $400 per month based on the cost of Soylent (or Joylent/Huel/Aussielent depending on where you live). WiFi is $60 per month. Round it up to $1000 per month. If anything go…
/r/MGTOW21/08/16 07:47 AM
5

Never date, never get married, never have children.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:56 PM
1

It's like health problems. People will eat their KFCs, rationalize that everything gives you cancer, and then before they know it they're diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Similarly, men will date and marry women, rationalize that it's the right thing to do, that they are in love, and then before they know it she's initiating divorce and stealing all your assets.
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:52 PM
3

To me MGTOW is not about attacking anyone. It is about defense. It is about defending your assets from greedy women and divorce lawyers. It is also about defending your freedom. Don't bother attacking anyone because you only give people attention, which is what most people want nowadays. Just protect yourself. The term SJW, in my opinion, is stupid. Just about everyone wants social justice. I would love to live in a world where there wasn't a bias against men in the family courts. However, the t…
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 12:38 PM
5

I learned a long time ago that 'get married, buy house, have 2.5 kids, buy suv' is not your goal - it is society's goal for you. It's the way we trap men into the consumeristic cycle that is rapidly rotting the core of society. No no no. I'm not a slave. TRP would shame that by saying you are some kind of loser or invalid - hogwash. In my opinion, this is very typical. People who are faced with viewpoint that goes against their own, and who cannot come up with a logical or rational counterargume…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 08:12 AM
3

For them, the ultimate goal in life is to conquer women, thus finding validation in life. The natural outcome of this belief is to pedestalize pussy and orient ones behaviors around its attainment. To each his own, but they assume this is the objective purpose of every man. We MGTOW realize otherwise - each man is free to determine his own path and priorities. This is an interesting point. Sex is a need for many men. It is for me, at least, but MGTOW gives you the freedom to ignore sex if you do…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 08:04 AM
5

Women are the worst part of consumerist society. I have many male friends who are anti-consumerist and are frugal and minimalist, yet they are not MGTOW and are married. They look down upon other men who wear $300 Ray Ban sunglasses yet are happy to spend $30k on a wedding ceremony, $10k on a ring, $30k per year for school fees, and so forth.
/r/MGTOW14/03/16 09:34 AM
1

I'm sure there are many men who have been through marriage and divorce and are, as a result, very poor because of it, and then they discovered MGTOW -- far too late!
/r/MGTOW14/03/16 09:20 AM
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