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I've spoken to her about it as she made a couple similar statements recently. She meant it as a joke/fun statement, but I think she really believes the underlying part. She proceeded to explain how toxic masculinity makes men overconfident about their status and feel like top performers even though they are very, very average. It feels like one of those things that seems funny on the surface, but if someone had to ask why the joke is funny you start realizing how messed up it really is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 06:20 AM
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Yeah that's why this baffles me... you mean to tell me that if you literally make confidence something men are judged on, men won't project confidence whether it's real or not? Color me shocked. The answer is sitting in front of everyone but it's somehow easier to bring misogyny into the conversation? I have a lot of things to say about how stereotypically "masculine" attitudes on confidence and bravado shouldn't be necessary to get a raise and how that can negatively effect women, but you know,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 12:50 AM
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A lot of people want to perform concern for men, but don’t actually give a shit enough to think critically about how they can change the way the think of men to help the situation. We talk a lot about what needs to change to help men in society, but holy shit. This is literally the biggest problem facing men today. Any issues if I steal this? It's short and gets right to the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 12:44 AM
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It was definitely glib, you got me there, I just wasn't expecting to see a letter-form post about something I've written that has some very qausi-personal framing as "this guy is a spineless coward" up front. The rest of the letter is fine but hey, if OP has personal beef then feel free to DM me. I won't go on about it more but OP, the door is always open. Anyways, yeah I'm trying to be more positively engaged and the mods don't seem to have banned me yet so that's probably some extra civility o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 03:47 PM
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In my defense, I wasn't trying to be dismissive of the past at hand. Only to suggest that if the OP has issues with me personally, they are welcome to duke it out with me instead of making vague allusions in a post. It's not like I am not aware that what I've said has drawn ire and criticism. It's also not like they aren't maligning me and calling me a feminist like it's a pejorative (when I've clarified I don't identify as one), and assuming a lot of things about my intent and backstory. I'm op…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 03:09 PM
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I think this is going to be very difficult solely for the reason that people don't really want to challenge their preexisting notions on what men are like. They think they've got it all figured out already
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 03:07 PM
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If you're ever confused about how someone could say something like this so flippantly, it's because they don't think it's harmful. From her feminist viewpoint, misandry doesn't exist, and if it exists, it's not systemic, and if it's systemic it does not cause significant harm to men. Misogyny is a force so powerful and oppressive to women and embedded in the male identity that "lashing out" against men is not only a logical end-result, but in the modern day nearly demanded. So people like this t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/22 06:57 AM
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Don't get me wrong there's a ton of that happens and it's soul crushing to say the least. But if there's one thing I got out of dating a very "cling to misandry" feminist for far too long was knowing how she convinced herself the misandry was justified. It's often far more trouble than it's worth, but occasionally I see someone question the path they are on and it helps bring a little hope back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:40 AM
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And we're back to the whole point of the post because saying they're privileged is missing the point because they weren't wrong about those 5/100 things affecting women more. All you've said to them is "our problems matter more than yours and you shouldn't even complain" which is something feminism does to men all the time, especially with this very issue. It's incredibly dismissive to tell someone they shouldn't care about their issues or saying their issues are a matter of privilege. Why take …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:26 AM
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I'm saying that women have just as much a right to be upset at increased violence against them as men do. If we are going to believe that all violence is bad then it makes sense for women to be pissed about increased rates of violence against women and they obviously are. But most feminists don't know the statistics or the incredibly disingenuous reporting or political hat tricks to make it seem like women are the only victims. They just see what the media reports - "increased violence against w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:18 AM
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Do you believe that there are specific forms of violence that women face at different rates than men? My point is that for specific forms of violence there are gender differences and it's not ideologically incompatible to highlight those. That's precisely what your average feminist means when they talk about femicide and other associated terms. Women attempt suicide three times more than men and men commit suicide three times more than women. It's not nonsensical if women talk about how they att…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:08 AM
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I think you've brought up a good point here that I feel like validates my point of view even if you disagree with me? I don't want to take away from what you've written so if you disagree with me just say that and I'll can it. Essentially, interacting with feminism requires a good faith interpretation (in my view) because so many feminists have divested themselves from the outcome of their beliefs. I agree with you that the end result of codifying femicide sentencing laws into practice will be m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 07:04 AM
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Yes, with enough success to feel like it's a worthwhile effort (but with a lot of frustration as well). Most feminists have bought into a misinformation campaign about what men are like and how men think and sometimes you can get people to listen if you listen to them and non-combatively challenge their experiences or beliefs. The minute you turn up the aggression they shut down and put you in the MRA box and ignore you completely.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 06:53 AM
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You've misinterpreted my comments and I definitely didn't say "the anti-women comments here", it's an implication that someone has to know that people in this sub mean institutional feminism and not "feminism as women's rights" to properly understand what's going on. As for advocacy, I don't particularly believe that single discussions can change people's minds. I don't think I've seen anyone ever backed into a corner change on some fundamental belief. It happens over dozens of conversations, pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 06:48 AM
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I fundamentally disagree that violence against women can't be amplified for gender related reasons (aka because they're women), so I don't feel particularly inclined to address it, we just disagree. I agree with you that men face more violence than women but you've consistently ignored that I'm trying to highlight specific forms of violence. It's kind of dismissive to compare violence to wealth complaints though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 06:43 AM
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And that's exactly what I'd hope to see as a response. This hits the nail on the head, puts the blame where blame is due, and clearly defines the struggle of being male when it comes to seeing both sides of gendered violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 04:39 AM
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I do find it really interesting how "white feminism" has finally begun to garner widespread criticism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 04:23 AM
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That doesn't feel contradictory to me at all - saying women are at particular risk for some forms of violence because they are women should generally have zero impact on how people are sentenced for being violent against women. I could see some case where it could be treated like a hate crime in cases like Elliot Roger, but in that case I'd require equal laws in reverse if someone were to mass murder men due to their misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 04:23 AM
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Oh it's hideous, I hate that a subreddit that people say is the best for men's liberation can't even admit that misandry exists
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 04:18 AM
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That's exactly my philosophy. I'd much rather be able to converse with people I disagree with and push for change then trying to burn a movement to the ground that's been active for more than a hundred years. Eventually something will come along and take its place but that will only ever happen when people who are feminists eventually shift their views to a less black-and-white framework. I see now that this is not a terribly common view here. There's probably something to be said about simply r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 04:17 AM
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Okay, so this thread has been enlightening so I think I can actually boil down most of my frustration to a couple things. Most of it reduces down to interpreting action over intent. Generally, feminists will do one thing that highlights women or makes them look - to a casual observer - to be the most victimized by some action or social mechanism. And what a lot of people will do is project the idea that since men (who might face the victimization more or in a different form) weren't mentioned, t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 04:09 AM
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Well unfortunately you haven't given me much to argue on lol but hey I appreciate the reply
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:52 AM
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I'm not here to debate whether the term is correct or incorrect or how much fear mongering is involved, if any. My point is, if you don't even know what they mean then it's much more difficult to be critical of someone. I don't think you're fully contextualizing the statements like "women die just because they are women" - because that statement is almost always purposefully hyperbolic to prove a point. But knowing that is generally hyperbolic means looking deeper than meaning and examining inte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:50 AM
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I'm saying everyone outside of this subreddit views "anti-feminist" and "anti-women" interchangably. And that politics are about more than good ideas - there's optics involved. That's actually a great example of why I made this post - a lot of the things discussed in this sub could be discussed among feminists without much issue, but because many assume that their beliefs are sheerly incompatible with feminism, those conversations never occur. There are simply better ways to discuss most things …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:45 AM
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Because this sub has changed an immense amount over the past 6-9 months and I'm exhausted of seeing it draw in more and more angry folks who want to complain about feminists and do nothing else. If that means it's time for me to leave, so be it, but I always got the feeling from mods that we should be the change we want to see, so here I am. Other people have felt the same way. I've seen many good posters give up in frustration and move on. It used to be a place where people cared enough to unde…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:35 AM
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I've admitted several times in this thread that people have very valid points on their criticism of feminism as an institution. That being said I'm still holding to this post. Having had been a feminist for years I still see a lot of stuff here that crosses intent with action and greatly cuts down on the ability to have productive discussion with real feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:21 AM
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Well the response curtailing your suffix usage wasn't from me but if you want me to critique your beliefs I can sure engage in that. I'd agree that it's another failed branding issue by the left. I'd agree that on paper, very few women are killed simply because they are women. But I'll throw you an example - are men dying in coal mines victims of androcide? Arguably, they are in those jobs in some degree because they are men and it's expected of men to work jobs that require hard physical labor.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:16 AM
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Also, let me know if I'm ever too aggressive for the "keep it civil" rules. I'm a bit argumentative today but I'm thoroughly interested in seeing the responses here even if some of them aren't what I'd like to see.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:03 AM
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On the flip side, you shouldn't have to have a detailed and nuanced understanding of feminism and the history of the movement to understand if a comment is anti-women or not. It's the old "I hate men" battle but flipped around - why shouldn't we say "feminism as an institution" or "the feminists in power" or "the feminists who advocate for [issue]" when we are doling out criticism? Another issue is those terms aren't going away. Maybe I'm not made out for this sub but it feels more often than no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 03:02 AM
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I guess there's where the distinction lies - when you get to actual laws that factor in femicide, I'm in total agreement with you. Gender should not be a motivating factor in charging or sentencing - it's how you end up with the gendered rape laws in the UK. As far as awareness goes though, I think there's something to be said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 02:50 AM
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We're delving into personal beliefs now so this will probably be my last reply to you to not dilute this thread - but I think you're way off base, or at least spend more time in niche circles than most. The tipping point for feminism is nowhere near where we are today and there aren't even the inklings of a movement to take its place. I agree a post-feminist women's rights movement is likely necessary and the best move at this point, but the fourth wave has just begun and Gen Z is adopting it in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 02:46 AM
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Sure! I want to give you good examples though, so hold up a bit since I've got to dig around a bit and find some of the comments that have thrown me in the past
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 02:19 AM
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I think it's very... difficult to say the least to do this in the modern era. I'm not sure if we can really expect the populace to decouple "feminism" from "women's rights" and admittedly most of my bias shows up because of that. I think fighting feminism (the ideology) is kind of a non-starter because of that. If male advocacy is already scrutinized as being misogynistic it's going to be a damn hard sell to be openly anti feminist* \but the ideology of feminism). Maybe it's a separate discussio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 02:12 AM
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I mean, this is kind of the exact take I feel like I'm describing. Femicide isn't saying that men don't matter, it's highlighting upticks in crimes against women and some violent attacks women are genuinely at a higher risk for (like being assaulted because they rejected someone). Do I think that the level of violence against men should result in much more outrage then it has historically generated? You bet I do. It's very frustrating that the public sphere is sucked into a discussion about wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/22 02:03 AM
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This is easier than you think but like someone else said, it requires compartmentalizing your feelings. Understand first of all that if she's saying these things to you it's because she trusts you. Don't burn that bridge lightly. Secondly, her feelings are valid in that she's your friend and she's going through a rough time. As stupid as it is, she probably actually doesn't believe that all men have easier lives than women. Don't get me wrong, what she's saying is definitely hurtful... but if sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 06:22 PM
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This is the right answer by far
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 06:09 PM
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I don't mean to be insulting but I definitely think the whole "YKW" thing is removing legitimacy from this post. It's an obscure acronym that apparently only the author and some other folks here use. On first glance it looks like just another specialized term that you'd see in radfem or redpill spaces and literally no one outside of this sub would understand this...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/22 03:26 PM
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