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Based on your own experience or?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 03:52 AM
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Can kinda tell that your entire premise will be wrong when you think sex is something women ”let” men do to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 12:24 PM
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Men and females
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 10:57 PM
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Could be just me, but nothing else has changed about my appearance. And I don’t know if they’re approaching just for sex, there hasn’t been any purely sexual advances, just a lot more ”chatting up” than normal. Mostly men who are I’d say late 30s/early 40s (I’m 29).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:43 AM
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Eh, I haven’t noticed a big gender gap in wanting kids, but I do think women are more realistic about what it entails, and more cautious about having them at the right time in life. Most people I know talk about children as something they just kinda take for granted that they’ll have one day, but I wouldn’t count that as baby fever. This is slightly besides the point, but is still interesting to note in a discussion about gendered baby fever; I’m currently pregnant with our first kid, at 27 week…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 03:33 AM
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If everyone is misunderstanding you, maybe you aren't making yourself understood?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:54 AM
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Some info here: do you want us to change your view on what your title says, or the validity of your body of text? Because I don't really see a lot of arguments for your title in your text, and so far most of your comments are "that isn't what I meant" or "that isn't what this is about", so you're not really making an effort to have your view changed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 06:23 AM
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Well, seeing how femininity is more connected to looks than what masculinity traditionally is, I'm not suprised. Being bigger and stronger than their partner is one of many things that men can be to make a girl feel feminine (hardly the most important one), but since it's there before literally any other interaction, it's one of those things that becomes pretty easy to filter by. Looks is (unfortunately) easily the highest virtue of femininity, has been centuries, so I think women, who want to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:47 PM
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Yeah, it's "unfair" but true in my experience. And, being a relatively tall woman, I also recognize that it's something that kinda marks adulthood for me, I was taller than most boys growing up, akward and lanky, and most negative comments about my appearance from adolescence revolved about me being manly or giraffy or a giant. So obviously, when I was looking for men to feel comfortable with, it makes sense that I would specifically look for men that made me feel, well, not that. But again, it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 02:02 PM
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I'm married now, but yeah, I'll admit that when I was dating, a man shorter or smaller than me would have a disadvantage compared to height-compatible men. I've never rejected a man solely for his height or size though, and I've mostly been more attracted to men on the stockier side.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:10 PM
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It takes so much for an average guy to be weaker than an average woman. I'm fairly tall at 5'11", but I find that men much shorter/with smaller frames than me are still psyically stronger. I've dated two men in the past with physical disabilities where I was much stronger, but that's a different setting, and it didn't bother me at all. I've dated men that are skinnier than me, and pretty much all of the men I've dated have been my height or maybe 2 inches taller, which isn't considered super tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:00 PM
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I can't imagine how isolating it must be to be bullied for one's appearance by the opposite sex for years in end. But you can, and your conclusion is that it only eber happens to men? You've actually been through the cruelty of bullying, and decided somehow that it never happens to women? Of course women are berated or bullied for their looks, all the time. Women are judged harshly by their looks from men and women alike, completely picked apart for every body part - a cruel way to treat people …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:22 AM
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I definitely think there are hive minds, but here on PPD intersectionality is so completely overlooked it's just ridiculous. I know intersectionality has become a very sjw-y term, but it's such an obvious concept that it's just so strange how overlooked it is. So I'm a white, normal abled, slim, solid middle class woman who grew up in a comfortable home with married parents, in an atheist family, mom and dad worked full time my entire childhood in blue collar jobs, as the oldest sibling, in a ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 09:34 PM
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Yeah, with the gender ratio being pretty much 50/50, if a bunch more men than women end up isolated and lonely, then obviously it must be because mem kinda suck at taking care of eachother and maintaining social networks. So many men with that one best friend who they drink a beer with and then one of them moves away and then... nothing. And, so many women who do all the planning and organizing of all the social glue that is needed over years and years of adulthood (holidays, cards, birthdays, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:53 PM
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I made a comment about this a while ago about the US: "Child support payments are decreasing. From 2003-2015 it went down about 14 billion dollars, averaging in 2015 at 3400 dollars per custodial parent per year. About 65% of divorced mothers receive no child support - although 50% of divorced couples have legal or informal child support agreements. So 69% percent of parents receive some of the child support they are due, only 43% receive the full amount due. When it comes to alimony, there numb…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:08 PM
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jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:37 PM
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30% recieve none of what they are due, 25% recieve some of what they are due and about 40% recieve all they are due. Also, only about half of all custodial parents have a child support agreement. I'm not saying it's perfect, and I agree that it's a completely ridiculous thing to do in the 21st century to put people in jail for being poor, and that it disproportonally targets an already extremely vulnerable group, but I still hold the view that the non-custodial parents should be financially resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:56 PM
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Who's in charge of feminism? Like, is there a True Feminist Oracle that "care" about things and "push" for things and "cherry picks" things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:08 PM
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They're not forced to fund unwanted pregnancies, but to take financial responsibility for their child. And only about 40% of mothers recieve the child support they are owed, so it looks like a majority of men are off the hook anywas. Women also have the responsibility for all pregnancies, which automatically gives the the sole privilege (and responsibility) of the choice. I agree that it's not easy or"fair", but there is no other outcome that is more fair for all parties - especially the child. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 01:04 PM
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These are all terrible examples. Child support is for the child, not for the woman. "Women" don't want access to infantry roles, and there's no big overlap between the women who want infantry roles and those who strongly oppose the draft specifically for women. 41% of women in the US are for mandatory service for both men and women, and 55% are against it. So it's really not "women don't want the draft". The CEO things is just a ridiculous argument. ​ What privileges are being stripped away from…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:40 AM
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And how does your friend react? I don’t think it’s disrespectful to talk to someone in a bar, and if they’re touching him when he doesn’t like it, they’re mostly disrespectful to him, not you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:32 PM
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I’m curious, do you find it disrespectful because you are sitting next to him (so any interruption would be disrespectful), or because it’s specifically touching his muscles (and you find that too... sexual? aggressive?) or because it’s specifically his muscles (never yours, or you’re in love/in a relationship with him)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:04 PM
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Marriage is better for a man's health, life-expectancy Married people experience per person net worth increases of 77 percent over single respondents Women's income decreases about 20% after divorce, men's increase by about 30% Divorced women's poverty rate is triple that of men's I have written about alimony, child support and divorce here before (with sources) - the "divorce rape" thing is simply not statistically true. Also wild how you think prenups can be thrown out - if you do them correct…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:07 AM
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Meh, figured OP keeps a close eye on all comments
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 01:11 PM
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The guy in the example is scared to drive long distances
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 01:06 PM
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It’s kinda telling that you all think I must be talking about the money part when my reply is solely based on not wanting an insecure partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 01:05 PM
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Oh my god, by FAR the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:21 PM
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Actually, yes, if you’ve felt this way for years, I would strongly recommend using a different tactic, for example stepping out of the dating scene for a bit to develop the tools needed to handle your anxiety
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 10:09 AM
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Poor sense of style, or, in the same vein, dedication to a style I don’t find attractive. Poor hygiene, bad breath, bad nails. Any more than maybe 4-5cm shorter than me was a nope, and I’ve always preferred stockier men, so too skinny or too muscly/shredded is a no. Can’t really think of anything else specific, and, looking back, the guys I’ve dated or been very attracted to have been pretty diverse in terms of looks. My husband is definitely my ideal, though: slightly taller than me, stocky, st…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 09:29 AM
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Asshole? Shamed? Disposable? Honestly, if picking up women is so anxiety-inducing for you, maybe dating isn’t for you right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 07:21 AM
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Never have I so eloquently seen pinpointed what excatly it is that make some men just incredibly unattractive - ”anything other than saying I want to bang you first is dishonest”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 11:21 PM
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Oh wow the amount of times I’ve done a trip, party or hangout with a mixed group of friends, where the manners and responsibility taken on before, during and after by the women is just lightyears ahead of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:19 PM
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This is very obviously a trp-related sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:04 PM
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They don’t have to be personal questions, we can debate the concepts and tacticts all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:26 AM
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I came here to discuss the tactics of men who want to improve themselves and their dating/sex life, not to listen to men complain about how literally everything that is wrong in society is women’s fault because women are inherently malicious, dishonest and vile, and have no empathy for men. Also, it’s become an increasingly polarized forum where no one is debating on good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 05:56 AM
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Fair enough, but then you are clearly not talking about the same thing as the op
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 08:42 PM
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So settling is only something someone without options can do? Because then it would simply be ”choosing”? Does it have to be conscious settling to even be considered settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 08:12 PM
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In your definition - is it only women ”past their prime” who can settle?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:52 PM
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Okay. Not sure how that changes anything for me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:18 AM
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I mean, the schedule itself would make it a no from me. I’d also be wary due to the fact that you have two degrees but still tend bars. What I know about the bar scene where I live, the majority are immature, dramatic and do drugs, so I’d also be put off by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:14 AM
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Must be willing? Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 04:43 PM
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r/iamverysmart chiming in too I see
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:32 PM
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You know very well what I meant. How is that laughable - I can’t know if your school is bad. And I’m explicitly trying to tell you that there are plenty of women who are interested in both makeup and coffee (and whatever else typically feminine, but looked down upon, interest you have in mind) and also politics, art and travel. I’m not trying to prove we’re not like other girls, that’s the opposite of what I’m trying to do here. Is your standpoint that my friends specifically must be boring and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:22 PM
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Haha, you’ll bite? What is the bait? ”My friends are interesting”? I’d imagine plenty of my friends could, especially in the closest group of my friends, where one is a manager at one of the country’s largest aid organizations (with a big campaign for Syrian refugees), one is a news reporter, one is a high school teacher in political sciences and history, one has a Master’s in peace and conflict studies and one has a Syrian refugee living with her - but more often than not, domestic and EU polic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:11 PM
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I just don’t see that pattern in real life, so I reject it as a general truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:33 PM
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It should be obvious to any adult human that has had social interactions in their life that people have several things they are interested in, yes. In my closest network of girlfriends, the topics of politics, art, travel (lots of it!), music, careers, gaming, food, baking, formula 1, shooting, yoga, soccer, cars, cartoons, movies, wine and yes - coffee and makeup, are all covered. There’s a huge community of people who love makeup as a creative outlet, to express their identity, to work on thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:20 PM
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Okay, I literally just said they were not into your examples, and they obviously have other interests as well. I don’t know any girls that are like the shallow, simple minded women I read about on PPD daily, but I’m sure they exist, just like I’m sure super uninteresting men exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:08 PM
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Super funny! I don’t even know if Kylie’s lipsticks ship here, and there are only about 20 Starbucks in the entire country, so I’d be suprised if my friends got super passionate about those. With that said, many of them are passionate about makeup and coffee, but I don’t know what that has to do with anything. More telling that you know that Kylie has a new lipstick tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:03 PM
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I’m just saying they might feel that way before you do. (I’m also trying to keep an open mind about a man who goes on an internet forum to say ”all women are boring and it’s hard to not be a creep”) I also think just general banter tonsee if you’re on the same wave length, have compatible humour and similar outlook on life might be easier that trying to have a passionate, deep conversation about something personal on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:16 PM
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How tf are you asking people out if it’s hard not to be creepy about it? Also, it’s cool that you’ve made women the common denominator here. It could just as well be that the common denominator is you. That they think the date is akward and want to leave, and are happy when there’s no second date invitation. Or, it could obviously also be that you go for a very specific type of woman, and you could ask yourself why you’ve only been attracted to women who are dull. All my girlfriends get excited …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:02 PM
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One account is banned, two accounts don’t exist, two accounts are very clearly made only to write out a bunch of fake tweets for screenshotting to ”prove” feminist are crazy, and one account is just some ganer dude who very clearly is not a feminist. I’m not sure this is helping your cause
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 01:27 PM
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Just weakens your claim to be a reliable source, really
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:07 AM
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Wow your post history is.. something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:48 AM
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Are you seriously asking why I’d be upset that a friend that I hang out with and play games with, would see himself as ”my pet” if I don’t have sex with him, and he somehow thinks that if I have sex with someone else he ”needs to watch” and that by having sex with someone else than him (a guy I never have had sex with??) that somehow makes me the bad guy because I’m ”entertaining someone else more”??? For starters, I’d be upset that he thinks my only value is as, not just a sex object, but a sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 07:29 PM
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No, I’ve worked in several very female-dominated offices, and I often feel powerful at work, and being sexy or attractive isn’t even on my mind. I also feel powerful after completing physical challenges, and it’s a pretty even 50/50 split if I also feel sexy after. I will, however say that it’s more likely to be the other way around for me - I feel sexy and attractive when I feel powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 11:06 AM
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Feel like you’re missing an opportunity by not reluctantly wearing red shirts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 05:21 AM
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What specific behaviours do you see as playing the game wrong, and what specific red pill truths made you understand how to win?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:33 PM
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Okay, then play the game
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 03:21 PM
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Well, yeah. I feel like it might be easier to just pursue girls you actually like but sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 03:01 PM
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Thirst is a turn off when it’s clearly about him, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:39 AM
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Child support payments are decreasing. From 2003-2015 it went down about 14 billion dollars, averaging in 2015 at 3400 dollars per custodial parent per year. About 65% of divorced mothers receive no child support - although 50% of divorced couples have legal or informal child support agreements. So 69% percent of parents receive the child support they are due, only 43% receive the full amount due. When it comes to alimony, there numbers are steadily decreasing as well, and in 2015 there were 380…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:36 AM
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Yes wow so enlightened
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:36 AM
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Those were your words from the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:12 AM
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I remembered someone on here said that all a woman had a to do to stay fit after giving birth was doing 20 minutes of cardio in front of the tv once a week and that's just ... not at all going to tone anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:33 AM
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So a charming person makes you feel good about yourself, and you're concerned they don't actually mean what they say? They're only doing that (making you feel good about yourself) as an ego boost? Wow, what terrible people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:31 AM
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Trusting that they can acheive and hold a healthy masculinity in an increasingly polarized society. I live in what is arguably the most feminist country in the world, and a feminist ideology (both the healthy and the unhealthy kind) is really dominating the media and schools, but as we can see from our elections, the backlash is also growing in momentum, with everything from healthy conservatism to right wing populism violent racism to neo nazism. It must be hard to be a young man growing up in …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:09 AM
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There’s also this very strange idea here on ppd that the slutty-fun-drunk-clubbing-sex all women have (amirite) in college is the best sex we’ll ever have?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 01:19 PM
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I’m a project manager for alumni relations at a university and he is something like a legal clerk (little hard to translate), but basically training to become a judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 07:41 AM
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I don’t know what people see as high n count, but I am at about 40, and I’ my husband’s third. I started earlier, have had more relationships, and loved to pursue sex in my single periods. He’s been in two relationships and while he’s been dating, he hasn’t pursued sex in his single periods. Now it’s more like, we both still really like to have sex, but now we get to have it with one person who we both find attractive, and with whom it still gets better with even after five years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:18 AM
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Get professional health
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:00 AM
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Yeah, I read this response as ”I love women for WHO THEY ARE, by which I mean not their accomplishments, personality, success, achievements, history, or actions (unless sex, for me), but for being an available hole for me to put my dick in with convenient manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 10:54 AM
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Spoken like a true sad, virgin beta male
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 03:53 PM
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If everyone you meet is an asshole...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:06 PM
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There’s no such thing as an unwanted death, because simply by existing as humans we engage in activities that directly lead to death (like breathing and aging), so everyone who lives must want to die. And not only at 105, obviously all people risk death in absolutely every moment of our lives (organ failures, accidents) regardless of how we live our lives to prevent death, sonI’m so tired of hearing people whine about dead loved ones or fear of dying, because by engaging in living you accept dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:02 AM
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So your premise is that from a evolutionary standpoint, shy men are «losers» in the sense that they will lose out on mating opportunities?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:53 AM
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Before I’ll try to change your view, I just want to ask you what drginition of introverted you’re using here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 06:10 AM
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Sure thing pal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:26 PM
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Like a lot of the other women here, I don’t see the difference, and I can’t think of anything or anyone in my life where the distinction is clear - or even important. I love my husband because he is intelligent, caring, funny, affectionate, hard working, cuddly and ”good at adulting”. Our relationship exist because I benefit from these traits, just like he does from my good traits. The relationship is based on the fact that both of us think the accumulation of eachothers traits and actions is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 08:34 AM
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So, there are currently about 32 million divorced men (if we assume there are about 160 mill men) in the US, and there are 600,000 peopleclaiming to pay alimony (to the IRS, although fewer people vlaim they recieve alimony), so even if all alimony-payers were men (the number of female alimony-payers is slowly rising), that means that 1,9% of divorced men pay alimony. So, at least 98,1% of divorced men don’t pay alimony, so I’m not sure how well your argument holds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:33 AM
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I like men who are stocky and on the heavier side, I think men born with a cleft lip are fantastically handsome, and I've dated several men with physical disabilities. I also definitely prefer uncircumcised penises, but that was never really an issue here in this part of the world. My husband ticks some of these boxes, but not all, and he's still the most attractive man in the world to me, so these are not "musts"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:31 AM
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Both. Among women and in the same woman. A woman might want babies and his babies, a woman might want babies but not his babies, a woman might not want babies, but realize she wants his babies, or they just don’t want babies at all. I don’t know what other response you can expect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 10:50 AM
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I read what you wrote the first time, but I still don't see much truth in that - you are generalising way too broadly, and on the wrong assumptions. Your bias is very obvious, so I probably won't be able to change your mind about this, but even you must see that your main points here are not a true description of society in general. Women watch lesbian porn because lesbian porn, on average, caters more to a female sexuality, for the female's point of view, while the vast majority of straight por…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 12:17 PM
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a woman walking down the street wont feel attraction towards men that she passes by what And I don't know what you're on about in that second paragraph - plenty of men want to keep their male-only spaces male-only. You're really also generalising a lot of women based on a few, small examples. How many women go to women's only gyms or schools? How many women were actually joking about living on a female only island (btw after seeing a movie about, in part, a female only island), and how many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 11:19 AM
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What. I don’t know if you’re misunderstanding me, but my point wasn’t that women only blame themselves for sleeping with ”losers”. And even for the ones who do, I don’t agree that they’re only devaluing the loser, they’re also blaming themselves. Also, I don’t know what you mean in your secpnd paragraph. How would ”taking responsibility” look in a situation where a girl has been rejected look to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:27 AM
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I’m... I’m not sure how that relates to what I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 06:47 AM
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You mean as in, do teenage girls and young women go through feelings of inadequacy, insecurity, self loathing, self doubt, sadness about their own failures and shortcomings and ask themselves ”what is wrong with me” when they find themselves dumped or manipulated or rejected? Yeah, all of them, me included. I’m suprized you see women blaming men more, because my experience is that most girls (even the conventionally hottest ones) are balls of insecurity and question themselves all the time. I’d …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 03:51 AM
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Can I ask you to give us an example of the word creepy being used in an acceptable (according to your argument) way? An action or situation that can be described as creepy. I’m not sure I follow your initial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 07:38 PM
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Ugh, thank you - your last point is so important. I can't tell you how many posts we have on PPD with "if a man did this, he'd be SCOLDED" or something to that effect, and I can't help but be like.. no.. no one is going to pour hot boiling water on you. You might get a negative comment if you write an overly-detailed post about it on Reddit though..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 01:38 PM
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You don’t have nearly enough information to make any of those claims, not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:20 PM
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Your experience with relationships must be veeeeery limited if you think the above points somehow negates equality in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:15 PM
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What’s the hypocracy in her wanting some nice, polite and caring gestures on a date and also being a feminist? And come on, turn down the hyperbole a little, or at least go outside. Men aren’t roasted for wanting a sahm (although I don’t see how they can get both a career woman and a sahm). My experience with both this forum and a lot of other subreddits is that men usually get the ”don’t date women who’s ideals don’t align with yours”-advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:10 PM
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So don’t date her then, if you don’t want to ”do that shit”. And as I already said, this article is specifically about things she enjoys on dates, so she wouldn’t write about reciprocating nice things there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:03 PM
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She literally writes in every single one of those paragraphs that she doesn't expect them, but that she enjoys them. I enjoy presents from my husband, that doesn't mean I feel entitled to them. Do you want someone to pull out your chair, buy you flowers or give up their seat for you? If yes, go ahead and write your own article about things you like on dates. If no, why does it bother you so much that she likes them? She could perfectly well write an article tomorrow about all the things she like…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 11:57 AM
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I would want him to ask me if I’m alright and what, if anything, I’d like him to do about it. I would not like (not sure angry is the right word, more... dissappointed?) it at all if he punched someone «for me», or used any kind of physical violence. I’d only want him, or anyone else I know for that matter, to physically interfere if there’s an imminent threat for mento get harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 08:18 PM
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5’11”, red hair and fair skin. Slim-to-average body, was told I looked like Donna in That 70s Show a lot earlier. I’ve posted our wedding pictures on reddit, so feel free to snoop
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 07:33 AM
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What the actual fuck is going on in this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:15 PM
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Oh, now I see. No you're totally right. What you need is an escort, a maid and food delivered tp your house - not a wife to love unconditionally. Best of luck to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:22 PM
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I'd beg to differ, people stay in relationships that are clearly loveless all the time. Out of fear, comfort, habit, convenience, insecurity - you name it. Couldn't it also just be so that women initiate divorce more often because the husband stopped loving her already?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:06 PM
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And (just to understand you here) you see "not divorcing" and "loving unconditionally" as the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:53 PM
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How do you know you are able to love a woman unconditionally? What is the romantic love you have realized only men can feel based on in the woman? What do you want us to prove to you that women can feel, because you can?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:39 PM
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If women had by default all the financial responsibility for a child, they would be more responsible and take precautions to avoid unplanned pregnancies. Like men who now, by default, have half the responsibility? That seems super fool-proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 02:20 PM
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Couple of possible reasons: She's had sex with enough men that think that porn sex is the only way to do sex, and is tired of terrible sex. She's feeling insecure about her body or looks She's geniunly concerned about the way women are portrayed in porn She's scared she'll be seen as a slut if she's open about enjoying porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:44 PM
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Yeah, it's not really hard to see in the types of posts that mention Chad a lot. It gets reeeeal messy when they try to throw in a bunch of red pill theories though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 01:09 PM
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Everyone has little quirks and predilections so abundance mentality is important. This is really my experience as well, and that brings me to another trope I find so difficult to understand: Chad. Now I know Chad is more a concept than an actual person, but the Chads RPers tend to draw up sure as fuck isn't attractive to me. It should also be easier to handle rejection from the standpoint you posted (I'm just not her type, but I will be someone else's) than to focus on That One Guy who gets Ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 12:52 PM
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That's fair enough, and I find that easier to accept than AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 12:46 PM
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dont' know a single guy who cried after a break up. They start drinking more often, or they start going to bars and picking up random women, sometimes they are just down, but they don't sit there and cry in front of you. Women seem to think that people are okay with sitting there and watching you cry and complain. Sorry, I just have to ask. Are you saying that it's better to turn to alcohol than to cry after a breakup?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 08:47 PM
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What do you mean? Who's body?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:23 AM
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So the poor Nice Guys^TM are simply just victims to the decietful hivemind of women everywhere? They are the real heroes, laying down their lives to make women happy (yet continually failing, for some reason), only to have the Evil Lying Women mock them by not being attracted to them?! What an absolute outrage. This reply just reeks of entitlement, victim-playing, AWALT and a serious misunderstand of how relationships and attraction is formed. It sucks being in love with someone who's not into y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:18 AM
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Right, this just kinda confirms my point. Women shouldn't do anything. I mean, she could go on a date and she might be suprised, but no, she shouldn't go on a date with someone she's not actually attracted to in a romantic way. Because that would be leading him on, even if she just did it to be nice, there's no way there will be a positive outcome for either of them. Women don't owe you or any other man a chance at a romantic relationship, or even a date, just like men don't owe women a chance. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 09:07 AM
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How so, why is it more flexible for women? Are women's SMV just dependent on fashion and makeup skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:22 PM
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Things like clothing won't get much attention because men unlike women don't have a huge room of improvement due to showing shapes and some clothing being better suited for hourglass, bananas, apple and pear shapes This is just so incredibly wrong. Clothing and presentation makes a huge difference, and just because guys generally don't take the time to learn about it doesn't mean it can't make a difference. PM me your makeover challenges, I can easily bump up any guy with the right styling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:19 PM
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Just for clarification, is this only true for men in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 11:34 AM
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I'm a little confused. Is your point that the same girls that "cry and bitch" about being pumped and dumped make fun of "nice guys" they had no interest in? Cause sure, that seems like a boring group of girls. I don't know anyone like that, though, so sucks for you if you do. I just think you've misunderstood what we mean with the trope "nice guy". We're not talking about guys doing nice things to women because he likes them. We're not even talking about men that have a strategy to get women to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:49 AM
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You're saying why you're not tempted to sleep with other people, not why you wouldn't sleep with other people. I don't see the difference? And I specifically said I highly value being exclusive with someone, I suppose that is the core reason why I wouldn't sleep with anyone else. The other questions seem a bit absurd after my previous replies. What are you trying to get at?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 08:28 AM
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Hehe, I live in Sweden and work in an NGO (more poverty, human rights, social issues than engineers etc), so no, I don't think I'm a middle class midwestern American if that's what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 05:17 PM
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A mixture of my SO meets my sexual needs. The improvement or experiments I could ever want I'm confident I can have with him, as we can talk about it and both want to stay exclusive with eachother. I believe the best for my life is to be in a committed monogamous relationship and I value that exclusivity with one other person greatly. Part of it comes from my pretty romantic outlook on life, I truly believe life is better when you have a single person follow you through it (although I've dated m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:30 PM
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Hm, as we're both in this relationship out of free will, I don't expect anything would change. Isn't a monogamous relationship just an agreement that it's closed? We're both free to "open" the relationship, it's just that we don't want to. The pros of having one another exclusively greatly outwheighs the cons. I have absolutely no fear he would use of the opportunities of an open relationship. The same goes for "having the right to go have sex with other people" - it's hardly a right, and if it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 04:08 PM
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I've met a lot of seriously cringey men who've tried to pick me up with various PUA-techniques. Good looking, tall men with confidence but unfortunately too much ego and too little intellect who think I'm a little pretty airhead that they can impress with their Big Man Alpha Traits. Ugh. As for shitlord misogynist, most of the time, it's not full on shitlord but the shit kinda sips through when you have a conversation and the rape jokes or wildly different standards they hold the genders to come…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:48 PM
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oooh, do me, do me!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:40 PM
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Did you read the post you've linked to in your OP? It is literally a list of actions and morals found in TRP. If someone wrote a list of 8 concepts within communism or Catholisism they found repulsive or pathetic, then no, that's not hate. If you can't tell the difference, I really don't know what to say to you. I suppose if we use hate only to mean "strongly disliking", then yes, of course it's hate. In which case, we've all said all along that TBP is a "hate sub" since it only exists as a nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 10:24 AM
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The difference is that the insults in your OP are aimed at people's actions. Those who wrote them find RP men repulsive because they do repulsive things or have repulsive morals, in their opinion. Someone mentioned it in another comment, that it has to do with actions/morals vs just traits. Women, blacks, handicapped, Jews, whatever - these are not interchangeable with RPers. A better comparison (that is fair to the examples in your OP, not my opinion) could be "cheaters" or "liars". Now, you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:47 PM
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Okay, let me rephrase: the things you've quoted in your OP is not hate. If you want to see what hate looks like, go over TRP. That's what TBP is all about, calling out the hate. And it is relevant to point out what TRP is, when TBP only exists as a reaction to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:30 PM
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I don't hang out over at TBP, so I don't know how much of this happens, but compared to the insults and hate towards women I find on TRP, the insults you've listed above are kinda.. tame? I mean, pathetic and repulsive, surely it should take more to offend a RPer? And, you're obviously right, TBP only exists in direct response to TRP, its only function is to be a place to highlight and laugh at the many flaws of RP theory. Hate? I'm not sure, but ridicule? Definitely. Because sometimes, RP is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:28 PM
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I'm getting married in September!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:07 PM
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I'm Scandinavian, we're all tall and good looking!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 07:14 PM
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Wait, every single friend of yours has an unplanned child? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 06:23 PM
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Yup, I'm Scandinavian. Have lived in UK and US too, though, so I'm well aware of the cultural differences, but so much of what RPers say here on PPD is so far out to me. Some of the differences I can trace back quite easily by looking at statistical differences (mean age for men's and women's first marriage here is like 36 and 34, respectively, and parents have the right to take 18 months off from work, where 480 days are paid. Men take about 30% of those days now, but the number is increasing. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:56 PM
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I agree, I don't think anyone on here is lying per se, and I guess that's why I stick around: because I relly, really want to understand how people reach the RP conclusions. Because I just don't see them at all. And I also think that's my main problem (or just what I find most off-putting) with RP, that I value the ability to critically see a situation from different sides. RPers seem so obsessed with systemizing and universality, and I think that's the what frustrates BPers most of all. Which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 05:37 PM
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Heh, this is my thought with almost every post or longer comment from a redpiller I read on here. I can't even recognize the world they're describing, so even though I'd love to join the conversation, I just realize that we have waa-haaay different points of reference, perspective and experience of reality that I don't even know where to begin. So much fall under the "not even wrong"-kinda statements on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 02:51 PM
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Sorry, my lady brain can't really handle more advanced levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:16 PM
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I'd say about 80% of the people I know, hang out with, work with and are in my social circle are outright feminists. Not radical (some are) or loud in the parody-tumblr-kinda way(some are), but an overwhelming majority would absolutely say they are feminists if I asked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 11:26 AM
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Just to clarify, are you saying that women in relationships, regardless of how well the relationship is going, will withold information about having a boyfriend if they're attracted to you? And does that mean they are open to cheating on their boyfriend, or just to flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:30 AM
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I think it can also be C) she doesn't want you to get the wrong idea about where the conversation is heading. Even if you're not coming on to her or flirting, she might want to just work into the conversation that she's with someone. I guess it's relevant either way; you're coming on to her, she's not interested, or, you want to be her friend, she tells you about a pretty important part of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 06:35 AM
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I'm not saying you didn't get laid, but you have to realize that there are women you haven't slept with? As in, you've obviously been able to attract some women with your "talks and looks", and I know some women like that myself, but you realize they're not all women, or even the majority of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:05 PM
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Does he have hotkeys for all his favorite lines? Mouth watering delicious perfection Sweet gorgeous perfection I would love to bury my face in that sweet perfect pussy and eat it for hours!/like a starving animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:05 PM
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I've moved countries, so I have two sets of friends, so to speak. We're planning our wedding, and out of a 90 person guest list, about 20 are my friends, and 10 are my fiance's. Out of them I have 5 that I'm super close to, and my fiance has 4. The rest we see regularely. We had a dinner party at out flat this weekend, and we easily found 20 people to invite, so I suppose that's where we're at if we're not counting super-close.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:56 AM
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Wow, you must be quite the mind reader. I generally avoid nightclubs, so that might be a factor. I don't necessarily think that women are their truest self at 2 am in a night club either, but I'm sure you're not wrong that some of those women only want to sleep with a good looking guy. Just remember there are more women out there than the ones in nightclubs/sleeps with your friends (are your friends Chads?). And you can't really know if all the good looking guys those women sleep with don't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:41 PM
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On the internet behind an anonymous username? Or to their girlfriends? And how do you know? If women lie, I mean. How can you know who they're sleeping with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:19 PM
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No, now we're back where we started. Of all the women I know my age (20s), there are only a few who'd go solely for looks - even for ONS. The rest want personal chemistry, someone they can enjoy themselves with. So maybe the vast majority of women you know go for looks, that's impossible for me to say, but that is not my experience at all. Even for those not interested in dating. So back to what I said from the beginning: for specifically casual sex, some women want chad. I have no idea how to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:17 PM
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Amazing how you just know that women are ONLY attracted to looks despite lots of women saying that personality and chemistry is more important. Then you try to cherrypick an answer that matches your own view, and somehow manage to pick one that says the exactly opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:19 PM
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No, I suppose I should have been clearer: I can think of a few that would go for a guy just because of his looks. The rest don't really care that much about looks - they go for chemistry and personalities that are compatible with their own. And even the women that only care about looks only do so when they are specifically just looking for a guy to have sex with, not guys to start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:11 PM
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In my experience, looks are only enough for certain women in certain circumstances, even if it's just for sex. Out of all the women I know that are my age (mid-twenties) and single, I can probably think of three or four who would only consider the looks of their ONS or fuck buddy. Chemistry and matching personalities are the prerequesites - not looks. Looks is more on a "yes" or "no" scale, not 1-10 if that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:39 AM
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I agree. Also, for me, actual facial structure and body is less important than the way he presents himself - what he does with what he's got, so to speak. There's obviously a limit somewhere, but I've been attracted to/dated overweight men, a man with a facial disfigurement, and one with a prosthetic arm - but they all dress, groom and present themselves in a way that makes them attractive to me. That also means that I don't find conventionally handsome men attractive if I'm not into their style…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:34 AM
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Something tells me that OP doesn't really have all that much to offer women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:03 PM
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Agree, this happened A LOT after middle school/high school years were over. And I also feel like more often than not, men women aren't interested in go in the invisble or ignored pile, not the reject pile. And the invisible pile is a lot easier to get out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:38 PM
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Oh yeah, both before and after anything sexual has happened. Plenty of times. Mostly just "I don't feel that way about you/attracted to you/not my type/not looking for anything serious", an occasional mean comment about my appearance or weight or whatever, and some where I've thought we were flirting and something was about to happen, but didn't. And I mean, ignoring texts. I guess that's rejection too
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 05:33 PM
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See, that's the point. Their ideal isn't less fetuses killed - it's accessible abortion. Their desire is to never have an abortion. For you, and ideal could be a more equal world where women aren't required to be feminine, but you can still desire a feminine girl. Unless you just need to be hones with yourself and your ego and say that your ideal is that all women are submissive and thus potential partners for you. Think of it this way, your fantasy, ideal (sexual) utopia and your politically co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 06:31 AM
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Haha this is great. "You can't say you like Trump without being called a racist/bigot/sexist pig amd leftists all sit in their echo chambers and personally attack someone and call them names just because they said they supported Trump. Whine babies!!!!" Sure glad you guys all can handle men who identify as feminists in such a dignified, chill manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 03:48 PM
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Just out of curiostiy, do you understand how people can be pro-choice, but would never get an abortion themselves? Like, they will support and even actively work for accessible, legal abortions, but if they got pregnant they would keep the child no matter what? Cause that's kinda the same thing. You can have a personal preference and fighting for everyone's roght to have their own personal preference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 03:42 PM
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Just browsed through your history and noticed you're 18? That's awfully young to be so sure about AWALT. I guess we can't change your view, but I promise you've still got a lot to learn. Be open to that!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 01:55 PM
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No, I totally agree. I think they are sexy too, I was just saying men probably have them because they like them, not "because it's convenient"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:40 AM
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Yeah, Ryan Gosling too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:14 PM
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...I think you're reading a little too much into this. Pretty sure a vast majority of man- bunners have one because they think it looks good. And I'm not even sure how to respond to your girl example. I don't know any girls that would do that, but I'm sorry you have such a shitty experience with them. I wonder what it would look like if we were upfront about our intentions with our clothes. Because, sure, I dress to look nice, even attractive, hell, even sexy at times, but I don't really go arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:00 PM
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I'm just saying, there's a huge spectrum between those two pictures. Who gets to decide when it's overtly sexual, and therefor okay to to ogle?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:42 PM
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Fine, but you're really comparing apples and melons here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:25 PM
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It's a strategic position where you can try to attract the guys you do like (who think it but don't say it) while calling the rude guys creeps Haha, I like this. That's fucking brilliant! Wearing tight clothing is really just a way to weed out the creeps. Can't blame women for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:21 PM
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Women should realize that if they are going to wear clothes that sexualize them that it is going to cause men to look. They should not get upset. If they do then they are stupid. Oh, this is great! When are they not stupid to get upset? Where is the line drawn? And maybe, more importantly, who gets to decide? When is an outfit "ogle"-worthy? I love that men are such mind readers that they always just seem to know when a woman wears something to get attention from men. Of course, this gives them …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:15 PM
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Nah, it's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 08:33 AM
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I'm a feminist but not a seapunk, and my "type" is glasses+beard+lower end of chubby weight+intelligent+kind+quiet/introvert+funny. With emphasis on kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:16 AM
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Not here either. I agree, most men I know in relationships woulf call themselves feminists. Pretty much all single men I know too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:12 AM
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None, I think. I'm a natural redhead, tall and fairly slim, hair below my shoulders. I wear light makeup daily, do my hair and like to dress nice. I shave my legs, but not rigidly, especially in winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:51 AM
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You're right, it's not equal. But it's not true that conscription can start at 17 for men and 18 for women: those are the age limits for voluntarily joining the military. The obligation last from 19 to 44 for both men and women.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 12:15 PM
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Friendly reminder that Norway just changed their law so women and men alike are drafted - and it's actually a thing most 19 year olds go through, not a dusty old law that doesn't affect all that many people. Same goes for Israel, where women make up 51% of officers, and 33% of soldiers.
/r/MensRights17/03/15 09:21 AM
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Here is a great article on the history of custody and child support from colonial times in the US. The article is from the Floriday State University Law Review. http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/frames/254/mcnefram.html This article might also be of interest, from Queer Guess Code: http://queerguesscode.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/the-truth-about-feminism-and-child-custody-discrimination/ I do find it hard, however, to specifically find organziations or people lobbying for the changes that …
/r/MensRights15/05/14 08:44 AM
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