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| 1 | Finland's leading feminist poses nudeSaara Särmä poses nude for the good of fat activism and body positivity in the biggest newspaper in Finland. https://www.hs.fi/kuukausiliite/art-2000005472205.html | /r/MGTOW | 05/12/17 11:41 AM |
| 43 | Finland's leading feministThis is Saara Särmä, the "researcher". She is frequetly giving comments in Media. Her dissertation is full of hand drawed pussy pictures! (Yes, that's top science in Finland). | /r/MGTOW | 12/10/17 05:24 AM |
| 3 | Til that the UN Gender "Equality" Index only examines areas where females are faring worse; the US lost points to OECD countries because women "only" live three years longer than men rather than sixI would also be interested to see some source or evidence. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/17 06:16 AM |
| 1 | PPD Men...Rate These 10 Women Out of 10 Experiment9, 8, 8, 6, 10, 10, 6, 7, 9, 10 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/17 11:00 PM |
| 5 | Warning: You Can't Unsee 'The Red Pill,' the Documentary About a Filmmaker Who Learns to Love MRAsThe Red Pill Movie Triggers Its First Blog Reviewer, Alan Scherstuhl http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/10/04/the-red-pill-movie-triggers-its-first-blog-reviewer-alan-scherstuhl/ | /r/MensRights | 05/10/16 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10Yes, I made the search with that age criteria, but obviously there is lot of difference betweeb 35 and 44. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10Yes, my scale is intented to be linear, but maybe not totally succeeds in it. Attractiveness is linear. Lets say we take 1000 random women an put them in scale order. And if we put them in order of 1 %, we get 10 women who are 0,1, ten who are 0,2 and so on. The attractiveness will rise linearly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 10:53 AM |
| 1 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10If you make survey, where all the men reply, the it's all the men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 09:23 AM |
| 1 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10That kind of scale makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10Normal human beings are fat, and 35-44 year olds propably even fatter than average. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Anglosphere_2007_overweight_rate.png The LEVEL is the order of attractiveness of women compared to other women. Maybe men would find many of the them unattractive, but it's a question of the scale of attractivess. There is no point to give over 70 % of women below 3 rating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 09:17 AM |
| 0 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10There is differences in taste, but in the end there is one truth, the combination of rating scales of all the men. And thats what I am seeking for. Your 5-6 rated titty girls wont make the romantic lead in pictures or star in commercials. So I quess they can't overall be as high as 9. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:58 AM |
| 0 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10There were problems with pictures. Yes, cleveage girls with big tits usually look sexy with clothes (nice dress with push ups) on, but thin look better when naked. And there is the boob man vs. toned chick dilemma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:48 AM |
| 1 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10No. I can make same kind of scale of men, but it doesn't mean, that I find any of those men attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:45 AM |
| 2 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10I am waiting, if someone disagrees or tells me, where did I go wrong. I am still saying, that my scale is far the best that have been seen, compared to this... https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I3R-G-U1rpQ/V6RTwV2sbkI/AAAAAAAABVA/RlldJqJ31Qs1je6d--mTv-8SWj7GWweAQCLcB/s1600/jjkhjh.png | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:34 AM |
| 3 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10In reality, 80% of women aged 35-44 are more or less fat. There were no pictures of faces or bad pictures in the site where I took the pictures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10In theory, survey is easy to make. Just give men pictures of ordinary women to put in order of attractiveness. Then combine the answers and you have the solution Maybe somebody with programming skills will do that kind of survey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:26 AM |
| 0 | Body levels of 35-44 year old women: scale 1-10The idea is not to rate women as I find them attractive, but to create scale that presents all men. So I am asking, is the popular opinion among men in the same line as I suggest? Are the women representing different levels in the right places? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 08:13 AM |
| 1 | Would you still consider a guy "nice" if he is sexually bold and assertive?No, he is not nice guy. Nice would not do anything that could potentially offend women, and many women would be offended from the sexual comments. Nice is - more or less - opposite of bold and assertive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/16 11:15 AM |
| 9 | Angry Harry passes awayRIP. My first internet MRM guru. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/16 04:34 PM |
| 5 | What are some issues with high levels of disagreement amongst mras?Maybe there are some disagreements about masculine sex role: is it a good thing or bad thing? Should we get rid of masculinity or should we celebrate masculinity? | /r/MensRights | 16/03/16 08:32 PM |
| 5 | Study: Pornography Users Hold More Gender Egalitarian Attitudes Than NonusersAccording to radical feminist theory, pornography serves to further the subordination of women by training its users, males and females alike, to view women as little more than sex objects over whom men should have complete control. Composite variables from the General Social Survey were used to test the hypothesis that pornography users would hold attitudes that were more supportive of gender nonegalitarianism than nonusers of pornography. Results did not support hypotheses derived from radical… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/16 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Can an MRA be a feminist?No. Feminists and MRM have very different opinions of the "content of equality". Feminist look everything from the point of women's best interest, MRM has the opposite view. It's impossible to look things from 2 opposite points of view at the same time. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/16 08:08 AM |
| 2 | Why Isn't Sexual Inequality A Public Issue?If a western man goes to Thailand, his economic resources are valuable asset in getting sex, because Thai women don't get his money for free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/16 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Why Isn't Sexual Inequality A Public Issue?Women don't have sex with men if they don't get something as valuable back. The more men's resources women get for free, the less incentive they have for sex with average or below level men. For many men the economic and same kind of resources are the only resources they have to bargain with women. If goverment takes that resource away, women are not interested. The original question was: why we have uncontrolled sexual marketplace, but controlled and socialistic economic marketplace? It's unfai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/16 08:40 AM |
| 2 | Why Isn't Sexual Inequality A Public Issue?Men pay most taxes and women get most of that money. Why women should have the right to get men's money for free? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/16 08:10 AM |
| 4 | Why Isn't Sexual Inequality A Public Issue?Get more immigration of young women. It reduces it price of sex. The more there is women compared to men, the easier it is to get sex. Stop taxing men's money and giving it to women. The less men's money is transferred to women by goverment, the more incentive women have to trade sex for men's resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/16 07:49 AM |
| 3 | Why Isn't Sexual Inequality A Public Issue?The goverment redistiributes men's money to women by taxing. Men pay most taxes and women get most of that money. So the goverment is effectively reducing the women's dependency of men - just as feminists have wanted. Women don't have trade their sexuality to men's wealth, because socialist economy taxes men out of their money. So the solution is opposite to goals of feminism: stop redistibuting men's money to women by taxing men. Same goes for police, army and other tax payed institution that r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/16 06:32 AM |
| 5 | Questions about MRA/MRMProfeminists take feminist starting point for granted and they don't dare to criticize anything that may piss of feminists. So, profeminists are next to useless in promoting the kind of men's equality issues that "take away something" from women in the sake of equality. Historically MensLib tried to ally with feminists (see this post by mehttps://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3vn6ek/development_of_feminism_and_mrm_19631980/ ) in the 70's, but feminist came up with the Patriarchy theory an… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/16 09:41 PM |
| 2 | Questions about MRA/MRM"Why do the majority of MRA/MRM posts on male issues focus so much on feminism instead of the issues that need to be solved?" Here are some reasons from long time men's equality activist in Finland.... I have written multiple times about every men's issue there is. I have been in media etc. Nothing happens. Men's issues are not important for the power elite or for the average men. So I criticize feminists of their weekly doings instead of repeating myself with men's issues over and over again. I… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/16 09:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Aphla/Beta dichotomy makes sense in a primitive social hierarchy in which mating rights are proportional to physical prowess and that means for humans, it is a concept 100,000 years outdatedFinnish level theory Here in Finland we use the level theory of men instead of alpha/beta theory. Higher level men Middle level men Lower level men HLM are having lot of women and sex, MLM are usually in monogamous relationships and LLM have hard time in getting any sex. So the LToM is just about getting sex and women, not about men's qualities as a leader or other stuff like in the alpha/beta theory. The problem with alpha/beta theory is that it makes unnesseary asumptions of men's characters i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Women of PPD...Rate these Men1,2,3 and 5 are all decent/good looking to most women - around 6-9 level men compared to other men. 4 and 6 are also decent looking - around 5-7 level, but 4 could divide opinions between women and 6 has the worst picture with sad posture. Too similar looking faces, so the quality of the picture plays too big part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/15 06:06 AM |
| 4 | Why do many MRAs viciously attack Paul Elam.I am from Finland and I don't have that strong opinions about english speaking MRAs. However, I am bit disappointed in the way Paul Elam is frequently presented in the media as "big and important leader of MRM". I have not seen that he is considered some kind of great guru by the members of MRM. Yes, he have done some good stuff, but he is way behind the guru status. I have read most Warren Farrels books and they have the value of seminal guru status to me. So I am not that disappointed with Pau… | /r/MensRights | 18/12/15 07:09 AM |
| 1 | A new way of measuring SMVSMV and LEVEL explained SMV (sexual market value) is the amount of potential demand in the sexual market place. How that demand should be calculated, is not an easy or trivial task, but anyway, demand is a real thing. LEVEL is a position of a person among his/her own gender based on his/her attractiveness. You have to use both concepts to understand the attractiveness of a person. Example in the sexual market place Let's imagine we have a bar with random 100 men and 100 women. How we define SMV … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 06:27 AM |
| 2 | Development of Feminism and MRM (1963-1980)"I could find no information that supported the argument that feminists created patriarchy theory in response to men being perceived as being more oppressed, and as a way to identify women as the more oppressed group." Well, that's my view of how things happened and how the ideologies were made. And I don't mean that it was a concious process by the feminists. Probably feminists and profeminist felt deeply, that women are very valuable and they are treated badly. They wanted a theory that fit we… | /r/MensRights | 06/12/15 02:13 PM |
| 2 | If women were more open about prioritizing physical attributes (i.e. looks) when it comes to dating and relationships, there wouldn't so much red pill stuff.I think women value looks a lot in first screening. If a man aproaches woman in bar or in net dating, he gets instantly rejected, if the looks are not good enough. But, man's bad looks could be overcome, if he get a chance to present himself and his other qualities in a good light. For a bad looking woman things are different - she usually can't rescue her bad looks by presenting other positive qualities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/15 07:22 AM |
| 1 | This is the dating reality that women don't (seem) to understandThanks for the link. In the "unknown man" situation very few men can be alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/15 09:32 AM |
| 2 | This is the dating reality that women don't (seem) to understandTo add to your experience, there is phenomenon I would call "The unknown men's syndrome". If you are unknown to a wowan in a bar or in the Internet dating, you have little chance to light the spark. If you would see her in your own playground with your status and your strenghts showing, spark would be much easier to achieve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/15 06:16 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Sexual Market Value is not very useful metric, and Relationship Market Value would be better for most circumstancesWell, the same goes with cars. Some people want sport cars, some minivans, but despite of thet difference, every car has market value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 07:29 AM |
| 8 | CMV: Sexual Market Value is not very useful metric, and Relationship Market Value would be better for most circumstancesYes, sex market value and relationship market value are different things. Women have typically much higher SMV than RMV: all the women could get as much sex as they hoped for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 07:27 AM |
| 8 | MRA vs The Red Pill vs Documentary confusionYou have a valid point there... However, for me "The Red Pill" is some kind of theory of "how the things really are" between the sexes. And from that point of view red pill theory is not so much wrong from the MRA point of view, but the goal of MRM and PUA's are very different. MRM tries to have effect on goverment policies, while PUA's have individual mission to have success in the sexual market place. So the red pill theory can be kind of basic theory for the hole manosphere, where different s… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/15 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Equality in Saudi Arabia vs. FinlandFinland just had "Equality days" and the planning of event was mastered by 42 woman - no men were involved. Finnish equality minister made a speech in the event. "Equality days" is quite official event and it has big impact on Finnish equality politics. So men are almost totally ignored from equality politics. Saudi Arabia has things the other way around. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/28/saudi-arabian-womens-conference-picture_n_3515062.html | /r/MensRights | 03/10/15 01:56 PM |
| 1 | What is your idea of a "Nice Guy"?Nice quy don't offend women (or people in general) or don't do things that could offend women - like making sexual suggestions. He has at least decent communication and social skills. Nice guy is "nice" from observers standpoint - not what he thinks of himself. He don't get laid, because getting laid requires stepping out of his "nice" comfort zone and making suggestions to women might not be nice. He is nice, because he have nice from the little boy. It comes from his nature and upbringing. He … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/15 11:33 AM |
| 1 | The Scary Side of Men's Rights ActivismArchive can't be seen in Finland :-( "This content is not available in your country." | /r/MensRights | 04/09/15 04:27 PM |
| 3 | Wondering About the Men's Rights MovementI think MRM is kind of "reversed feminism", as we talk about men's problem from men's perspective and with "men friendly theories". I myself theorize on men's equality, based on statistics and genger role theory. I don't speak of nongendered or women's rights - it's not required act for MRA, althought some MRA's talk about those issues too. And feminists are not usually delighted, if MRA tries to define their agenda. I don't especially "try to support all men", but presenting information of disa… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/15 06:52 AM |
| 2 | The Week has featured an article on the Men's Rights Movement. Thoughts?The movement’s core set of beliefs are deeply controversial and extremely problematic. The MRM core set of beliefs: Men are disadvantaged and discriminated in several areas of life compared to women. Those inequalities should be brought to daylight and corrected. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/15 09:40 AM |
| 9 | SNL does skit about female teacher having sex w/ male student: all about how awesome that ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTYnWs1OhbA | /r/MensRights | 12/04/15 07:15 AM |
| 0 | Sometimes I wonder if this is MensRights or Anti-Feminism. Anyone else?The problem is that feminism has all the institutional power in... Goverment Media Gender studies Equality officials etc. And there are hardly any influential male politicians to support men's rights. So, it's hard or impossible to do anything meaningful "activity" for men, other than write in the internet. And everything about men's right have written many times, so it's boring to repeat it time after time. What is left, is to react to feminist doings and recent news. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/15 01:01 PM |
| 0 | Why mens "rights?I have written about the same idea.... http://www.the-spearhead.com/2014/04/21/the-mens-rights-movement-should-change-its-name/ | /r/MensRights | 30/01/15 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Quick question: How do I properly explain to someone that Men's Rights isn't satire?I find it difficult to explain word "rights", which could mean anything from chauvinism to equality. Even Saudi-Arabia has "rights" for men. He in Finland we speak about "equality for men". It's easy to explain that we want equality for men in every part of the life. | /r/MensRights | 25/01/15 08:56 AM |
| 4 | the whole "alpha" "beta" thing when applied to humans really grinds meIn Finland we don't use the alpha/beta theory, instead we use "The level theory of men". I agree, the alpha/beta theory is flawed in some ways, as in human populations there usually are no clear alphas. Many successful ladies men are no alphas by any means. | /r/MensRights | 02/01/15 10:07 PM |
| 11 | Does men's rights = no gender roles?The basic MRM stand is is against any role expectations for men, as the MRM want's more freedom for men to choose. There is not much point in MRM that is not demanding more possibilities for men. There are - of course - conservative and anti-conservative branches of MRM, who want either more or less traditional roles for men. And maybe the society with more traditional roles is better, but I if women are not going back to their feminine roles, I am not going back to traditional masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 26/12/14 03:23 PM |
| 6 | So why dont you make more strides to fight oppression of black men?As a man from Finland, I have barely meet any black man in my life. I don't know about problems of black men. Do black men want me to speak for themselves? Feminist surely don't want men to speak for their behalf. I think men's equality advocates should consentrate speaking on the man-woman debate. Racial problems are for racial organisations. However, if there are some black men against black women equality issues, we should speak for the black men. Of if there is gay men against lesbian issues… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/14 05:45 PM |
| 1 | University paper: Finnish feminism is brokenI (Henry Laasanen) am mentioned in the article. There is so much wrong in the text, but the conscription part is right. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/14 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Empowering FemininityOn the contrary what the article writer says, femininity don't fit well with feminism. Femininity means a bigger value in woman for men, because men love feminine women. So in effort to increase her femininity, women is working for the benefit of men. In increasing her femininity, a woman is competing against other women. Competing other women is not what feminism is after. Feminism is after stopping women's beauty competition against each other. Feminity is not less valued than masculinity. Men… | /r/MensRights | 10/08/14 05:43 AM |
| 1 | Men's rights movementShortly said: Feminists have totally different theory of equality (patriarchy theory etc.) than masculism. Feminists have theories that see women allways in positive light, usually as victims, sometimes as strong heroes. The name "Equalist rights movement" don't say anything about the content of movements ideology, so it could mean anything from communism to libertarianism. I have suggested the name "Men's equality movement" as we use it here in Finland, but that didn't get happy responses from … | /r/MensRights | 18/07/14 05:04 AM |
| 5 | This MSNBC article would be overwhelmingly in support of men's rights if AVfM and speakers at last week's conference weren't so anti-feminism. I really think we need to consider reframing our arguments.The other side of the coin is lot of publicity. Maybe any publiscity is better than silence. I bet masculists would be (I would) more frustrated, if anyone didn't give any attention to men's conference. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 12:04 PM |
| 1 | This MSNBC article would be overwhelmingly in support of men's rights if AVfM and speakers at last week's conference weren't so anti-feminism. I really think we need to consider reframing our arguments.Victim power is not - of course - all solving move, but position of a victim gives security from the harsher attacks, because it's immoral to attack the victim. | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 12:01 PM |
| 5 | This MSNBC article would be overwhelmingly in support of men's rights if AVfM and speakers at last week's conference weren't so anti-feminism. I really think we need to consider reframing our arguments.I had the same kind of idea in my article... http://www.the-spearhead.com/2014/04/21/the-mens-rights-movement-should-change-its-name/ If we would speak more of men's equality problems, it might bring us more victim power. However I must say that propably nothing will make the masculist movement very lovable for the big audience. :-( | /r/MensRights | 30/06/14 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Newsweek Says High-Profile Sex-Trafficking Activist Lied ExtensivelyIt shows how much power women can get by useing The victim card, even when fabricated. Trafficking victim stories are used to stigmatize men all over the world. If feminists can fabricate the oppression of women, it gives more power and money for the women's organisations. Trafficking stories create narrative, where men are the villains and women are the victims. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 05:37 AM |
| 6 | Finnish equality debate video (with english subtitles)From the video... Masculists top 5 list of equality problems: Forced conscription only for men Lonely men are socially excluded Boys don't do well in schools Men lose custody battles Men die 7 years earlier than women Feminists top 5 list of equality problems: Women's bad position in work life Violence and harassment against women Tight standards for women's appearence Poverty of single moms and lonely men Women's difficulties in combining work and family | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 08:58 AM |
| 6 | Finnish equality debate video (with english subtitles)Funniest monent is in time 6.45-6.55, when the The feminist don't understand what generalization is. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 08:54 AM |
| 5 | Finnish equality debate video (with english subtitles)Finnish TV-program "Crazy Thing" (2012) offers gender equality debate featuring one of the Finlands leading masculist Henry Laasanen, member of parlament and a moderate masculist Kari Uotila (Left wing alliance), chairwoman of Women's Union Outi Pajala and "independent" professor of common rights Pekka Länsinen. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/14 08:51 AM |
| 1 | How are we going to "fix" the dating market?Simple answer is No. No we can't fix dating market. Why? Because there in not a single politician, whose goal is to alter dating market. And we don't have any approved theory of dating market: how it works, how it can be changed? And if we had the theory of dating market, we wouldn't have any consesus of altering the market. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/14 11:09 AM |
| 1 | The Men’s Rights Movement Should Change its NameThe EfM as a name works, because it don't have bad reputation. The efforts of EfM don't work, because we don't have any power. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/14 03:28 AM |
| 4 | The Men’s Rights Movement Should Change its Namehttp://www.the-spearhead.com/2014/04/21/why-equality-doesnt-work-in-america/ | /r/MensRights | 21/04/14 08:36 PM |
| 3 | MRA survey resultsHere in Finland most MRA's are propably 30-50 years old. Young men are not very interest in MRA ideology. It comes only after the realities of life begin to emerge. And most famous MRA's in english speaking countries have been around for decades, so they can't be under 20 years old. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/14 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Breaking: That Brazilian survey where 65% agreed women deserved do be attacked? It turns out they 'made a mistake'. Actually 70% DISAGREED.Thanks :-) That's what I expected in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/14 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Breaking: That Brazilian survey where 65% agreed women deserved do be attacked? It turns out they 'made a mistake'. Actually 70% DISAGREED.Do you have the original question? And what the "attack" means in original language? Could it be verbal attack? | /r/MensRights | 05/04/14 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Let's have a serious discussion on Sexual Economics, what are your opinions on this video?Yes, the video starts on the right foot, but it fails to take apart different groups of women. The Madonnas and "cheap women" have always been against of each other. Madonna type of women want to keep the sexual cartel up, while cheaper women want casual sex or sell sex. Typically, big portion of young women don't want to marry, they want to have fun with high status men. As they age, they may change their strategy and go for marriage and for sexual cartel. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/14 07:35 AM |
| 3 | What is the best term for someone who supports both female and male rights?You can not support both feminists and masculinists, because they have totally different idea of equality and different theory behind it. Let's look at reproductive rights. What kind equality you support in reproductive rights? Men have very few reproductive rights. Whatever stand you take, you are going to piss off the other group. If you accept the masculinist demands of equality, you are not welcome with feminists. And there are different opinions of equality problems. Feminist claim the uneq… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/13 07:29 AM |
| 6 | Is the Men's Rights movement considered American or Universal?Men's movement is active in the Nordic coutries. Themes are 80-90 % same as in the USA, but we have "state feminism", so feminist have more official power here. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/13 08:41 AM |
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