holmesksp1 Archive

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33	Women are the ones red pilling men You're missing his argument. It's not that red pill creators are or aren't toxic, It's that their negative interactions with a subset of women causes them to look for an alternate theory/method to date, which red pill creators then profit from by providing a solution, and emphasizing the problem. The reality is, there is absolutely a toxic subset of women who have been emboldened by the current culture. But that also doesn't mean that there's plenty of healthy women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 05:58 PM
1	Men on dating websites shouldn't have the option to swipe on or like profiles Speak for yourself my dude. Standards, get you some. Better to be single and happy then partnered and miserable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/26 05:25 PM
–	Young men should be taught about difficult ways of self-pleasure. This sub man. Everyday somebody comes in with some off the rails shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/04/26 10:45 AM
1	Men on here are contradictory Goomba fallacy. These are different people complaining about different issues	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 04:03 PM
-2	CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter. You know that typically you have to banter before you get the date right? You don't just roofie her into a date... Least I hope that's not your strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 12:35 PM
0	CMV: Most guys don’t fail in dating because of looks or status.. They fail because they don’t understand banter. What's your excuse? You have some war scar? Down syndrome? I get absolutely tired of hearing about men claiming they are undateable because of looks. I guarantee you that you have not spent the time and energy to improve your looks to anywhere approaching your basic potential. Not talking permanent alterations. Just improving your haircut, grooming, wardrobe, physique via diet and exercise. The dad bod is the most desirable LTR body type in many many surveys. Optimize those things, and I am a st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/26 12:34 PM
5	CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it does I think we're saying the same thing on point one. On point two, Yes, the average guy is useless on social skills, because we've been trained out of it, But it's the skill that you can retrain yourself into. In a world where hardly anyone can run a mile, you're a god if you can finish a half marathon... The point is, You're going to meet a different type of woman in real life than you would on the apps and even if that woman is on the apps, they might have left swiped right past you, where they m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/26 12:34 AM
–	Monogamy sucks Polygamy with any sort of commitment sounds equally tiring, and has just as many downsides and frustrations. I could understand the argument for long-term monogamy (marriage) sucking, But having share intimate attention (both physical and emotional) with others sounds horrible to me. There's a level of emotional and physical vulnerability that you should be able to reach with a partner, that you're going to struggle to reach when you're having to split time with other suitors. Jealousy and envy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 10:33 PM
11	Men's contribution to society isn't a dating argument. This feels like a straw man to me. Or if it's serious, as a guy, I also agree that their opinions should be discarded and treated as a straw man. Only way I could see it is if That man is not actually arguing from a case of you should date me because my ancestors invented the telephone, so much as responding to a feminist debate of well what are men good for at all?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 10:24 PM
13	CMV: "meeting women IRL" doesn’t magically bypass women’s standards in 2026 and people should stop acting like it does It changes the standards, and the way the evaluate them. When meeting a woman IRL, you're going to be able to demonstrate things about yourself that you don't easily demonstrate on the apps. Notably. Do you have fun/matching energy, charisma, confidence. Are you competent. And they're also just not thinking: Is he 5'10 or 6'? No one is saying that IRL women have no standards. And if anything the difference is that online dating women have false standards, because a lot of them are actually just …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 10:20 PM
–	Would you get into serious relationship with a girl who has done ONS/FWB before? How old are you? And have you actually had many serious relationships?No offense, but you come off as someone who's very naive/insecure about relationship history. Yes it's true that there are women who are exclusively looking to sleep around, but I also find myself looking for both serious and casual. Having a primarily casual dating history would not be a turn off If I thought them suitable for a serious relationship, as it's generally the pattern that when you're younger your experimenting ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/26 10:01 PM
2	The dieing off Clubs and Bars, makes dating even worse for the average Man. It killed a playing Field where you could do good by just putting in the work. In general "Approaching" in any form has lost its value, which leads us to a more "winner takes all" Market. Meeting long term partners at a bar, was a phenomena of the 80s-90s, and even then, hot take, the level of success of that is largely over emphasized by movies and media. Before that was not really how people met, and after it also is not...	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/26 12:04 AM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. Cooperation absolutely. Fairness is kind of a tricky thing to define when you consider the whole person, But if you consider fairness to be The amount of spread of general social standing and wealth, we've done pretty well with a fairly high level of inequality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 02:35 PM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. But they're right. To women looks are way less important. Men and women value different things. Women on average value a man who can provide security (physical, emotional and financial), competence and somewhere down the line looks. The average man does not care about a woman providing that security. Instead, generally, looks, a fun/caring personality. They're not saying that they'll take every man equally. They're just grading you you differently than you are grading them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 11:53 AM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. I also reject the notion of evolutionary having as much valid present-day validity. We are now living In densities and circumstances that have changed far faster than We have evolved for. Many of our evolutionary instincts that served well when we were a tribe in the jungle or Serengeti now backfire when we're living in a objectively historically safe world in the West. Our fear instinct has been just channeled into anxiety and depression.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 11:31 AM
–	Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be. Purple pill really needs to work on making its arguments more succinct, butt I agree and disagree. No one is entitled to their dream partner what people are calling out in the current era, that they're calling unfairness, is lack of decency and respect for the other side's feelings. It has become way too normal to ghost or otherwise drop someone at the drop of a hat, without any acknowledgment or care for the frustration and confusion(and other emotions) That stem from such behavior. I think we'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/26 11:24 AM
51	Why does it seem like only in pill communities are men failing with women? It's a combination of the fact that the other people who are failing are either not talking about it, and observation bias. I know plenty of people who are not in a pill community who are struggling with connection. If you think it's just association with a pill community, I suspect you're just spending a lot of time in pill communities. The fact that someone is in a pill community, means that they are so tired of it that they are verbally speaking up, But it doesn't mean that Joe schmo is not s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 12:54 PM
5	Men don't have a purity concept of virginity as feminists claim, we've concept of character. You must be fun at parties.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 11:33 PM
1	Men don't have a purity concept of virginity as feminists claim, we've concept of character. It changes it, because I allege not many men are trashing those promiscuous women. This whole thing is completing about a strawman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 08:44 PM
1	Men don't have a purity concept of virginity as feminists claim, we've concept of character. Sure. https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf This one directly speaks to the market price theory, This one was an experiment where they had an actress enter a room of women dressed two different ways, normal and more sexy/promiscuous and observed reactions from the women http://www.roslyndakin.com/biol210/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2011VaillancourtandSharma.pdf	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 08:39 PM
0	Men don't have a purity concept of virginity as feminists claim, we've concept of character. It's a inconvenient fact, but studies have shown that a lot of shaming women for promiscuity actually comes from fellow women. The general hypothesis being that The more easily some women give away sex, the lower the unspoken price (average number/quality of expected dates)is for everybody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/01/26 07:02 PM
3	Why do women friends share sexual encounters so freely with their sexually frustrated friends? I really didn't. For most normal people, there should be a ton of things to talk about besides how their latest evening encounter went with either their partner, or some stranger. In this scenario we're talking about literally one item on the list.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 11:58 PM
8	Why do women friends share sexual encounters so freely with their sexually frustrated friends? It's funny, because both you and the person you're replying to are correct. If your sex life is such a big portion of your life that you have nothing to talk about when You eliminate that, you May need to find a hobby. We're not talking about someone who says "I don't want to hear about your kids, or your obsession with '90s cover bands." To a lot of people, particularly if there's some unresolved sexual tension, It's weird to be having your sex life be a sustained conversation piece with a plat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/25 06:16 PM
1	Many women see men as just a means to an end. Sure. You could say the exact same thing about both genders. Not really sure what's the point of making that distinction is though. It's a human issue. Plenty of people do not view the opposite sex in that manner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/25 07:25 PM
4	Do you believe women have higher income standards now? Yeah, and those social scientists have published studies that do find that women are still ideally desiring a partner who makes More than them. Combine that with the statistical fact that Men are the minority in earning college degrees nowadays, and voila. People aren't forming those opinions from social media. Social media is just spreading it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/25 08:39 PM
–	What motivation is there for dating in a Red Pill world? Wait, you believe what someone has written on the internet?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/25 09:34 PM
0	What motivation is there for dating in a Red Pill world? Well, if you feel that way, more for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/25 12:22 AM
4	What motivation is there for dating in a Red Pill world? Ah. I see what you were trying to get at. Red pill does not preach that a woman is awful, or even women are awful. They preach that dating Dynamics follow a mostly non-romantic set of rules, That particularly to the less successful man, comes off as women being awful out of frustration and resentment. It holds that women are trying to secure the best partner they can, With best being defined as a weighted sum of looks, perceived value, provided value charisma, etc... Red pill would further gener…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/25 11:13 PM
2	What motivation is there for dating in a Red Pill world? Sure, you could view that as a proper red pill view. It's not my exact view, but in that context, the guy is getting something out of it, a partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/25 11:02 PM
9	What motivation is there for dating in a Red Pill world? I don't think you understand what red pill is. I don't even think you understand what it means to get something out of a relationship. The whole idea of relationships, is that you put in something that you are able to provide (as a man, commonly resources, security/safety, interests, companionship), and in exchange, you get back things that you cannot provide to yourself: companionship, love, someone to come home to, different interests...).	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/25 08:22 PM
1	No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want to Am I speaking Chinese? I'm agreeing with the sentiment that men should expect to pay for the first date. It's not an issue that they expect me to pay, nor would it be an issue if she insisted on paying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 08:06 PM
1	No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want to We agree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 06:20 PM
2	No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want to Did you mean to reply to me, or OP? I'm the one saying that I find it important/useful to pay on the first one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 03:30 PM
1	No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want to My theory, is that at least part of it is men who are picking expensive first date spots, who are tired of shelling out 70 bucks for a first. Reality is that they should just be picking cheaper spots. I highly doubt any woman In his league is balking at not being taken to an expensive (relative to their income) spot for a first. Plus it's going to attract women who are in it for his money not him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 02:15 PM
13	No one will force you to pay for dates if you don't want to Sure they won't force you to, and sure every woman is different and may not find the chivalrous pay for the first date thing that important. But for the ones that do, even if they don't force you, It's going to result in less attraction, from a lower perception of value of you, which decreases the chances of a second date. You're putting yourself at a disadvantage. She's not forced to go on a second date with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 02:04 PM
3	"Nice Guys" are basically an urban legend No, they exist. Not to the extent that that sub portrays, but there are two important parameters to romantic relationships. Attraction, and security. Ideal is a blend of both. Nice guys provide security and comfort but not enough attraction, and tend to friendzoned. Toxic guys are attractive, but no security, they make for a good fling, but are themselves less likely to commit, or be committed to for long term. The mix is husband material. And no, attraction is not just looks. It's also confiden…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 12:35 AM
3	What do conservative women value? ... If there's any difference at all between progressive and conservative women in this regard. Right, but that's the thing. most guys who hold your political leanings want a more feminine, traditional woman. You are looking for a niche man. Has Conservative values, but wants a tomboy. The reason why they keep asking you out is because, it's an absolute women's dating market right now. It's very hard to find an available woman, let alone one who matches their political values, considering most women lean left to far left. They don't have that many choices, and they're hoping you'll work ou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/25 02:29 PM
5	What do conservative women value? ... If there's any difference at all between progressive and conservative women in this regard. This is interesting to me. What you want out of a man, is very similar to what I perceive feminist women to want/be, "I'm an independent woman who can take care of themselves.". Compared to my stereotypical idea of a conservative woman, who is traditionalist, and wants to lean into those traditional roles. Which is why you're seeing a frequent mismatch in expectations. Proper traditional guys don't see you as a child, but see you as something different, and beautiful than them. The yin to their …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/25 02:15 PM
–	There is very little reason to believe unattractive guys will be good partners Nice rage bait you got there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/25 01:11 PM
1	Holding women back and beating them down, won't do anything to calm down hypergamy Which men are you speaking of? The perceived toxic bubble you're talking about? Or the actual real life men? Toxic is going to praise toxic to normalize the behavior. I don't know many normal men who are praising toxic behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/25 11:27 AM
1	Holding women back and beating them down, won't do anything to calm down hypergamy Feminism spent the last 10 years telling men that they don't want to be approached, and that if you so much as misstep you might get accused of SA. Respectful, decent men that didn't need that advice listened to that, rightly determined from that risk was not worth the reward, and just stepped back from approaching. As a result the only ones you are getting hit on by are the toxic men who doesn't care about that, and are only interested in one night stands, versus committee relationships. Congra…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/25 12:13 PM
5	Holding women back and beating them down, won't do anything to calm down hypergamy Holy mother of strawmen Batman! I would be curious to understand some more concrete examples of this holding back. The complaint men have about hypergamy you are not addressing, is how women are monkey branching towards toxic but attractive men, with those toxic traits being interlinked with the attractiveness. Then are crying foul on ALL men as toxic based on your experience with said toxic men, and pretending as if there's not a large set of normal men just below your standard, who do not harb…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 01:38 PM
-1	Why do men want a trad wife. You do know that most people have more to their personality than what they do at work right? And that most people tend to want to focus on talking about stuff that is not work. Sure they might want to talk about a win or frustration, but when I get home I don't want to give a play-by-play of the goings-on's. If the only thing interesting we have to talk about is that, I picked the wrong partner...	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/25 01:13 PM
1	How is a man the 'leader' in a relationship? What you're describing is the difference between CEO and COO.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/25 10:41 AM
11	The world does not cater to male sexuality. What? Sure what guy doesn't see a cute girl running on the sidewalk, and say damn. But to go as far as to say the world is not catering to men if any given woman does not allow them to date them or otherwise whenever you want, That's just weird. Go touch grass my friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/25 12:35 PM
3	Most women aren't having sex as much as rp thinks. You mean to tell me that Reddit and the internet does not represent real life??? Next you'll be telling me that it's not beneficial for their brain health for those football guys to whack their heads together and tackle each other! As if!!	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/25 06:00 PM
2	The real world treats men in their 20's - 30's onwards who are virgins as failures. Think it's a bit of a mix between incel and MGTOW. It being that they don't view their dating prospects as good. So rather than trying to improve their prospects they're just saying it is what it is. I can understand the conclusion, and appreciate where they come from dating is no picnic for me either, But do you have to persist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/25 11:56 AM
-5	The real world treats men in their 20's - 30's onwards who are virgins as failures. First off, what circles y'all hanging out in where they're checking your virginity card? Like when are they asking this? In a relationship vetting? Or one night stand? I've only dealt with the latter and that has not come up except for when I brought it up, And it was met with I don't care... It's not to say that women don't notice a lack of confidence and confidence generally comes from experience, but this whole virgin talk acts like if you've gotten laid once you are magically promoted from s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 10:26 PM
2	What do women like about going out on a date? What I've learned, is that there is a section of people who have turned dating into a hobby, and enjoy it rather than treating it as a means to an end of finding a partner. I think it just depends on the type of people you hang out with, sometimes you hang out with the people who have turned it into a hobby.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 10:12 PM
2	What do women like about going out on a date? Why should she care? Unless the place you're choosing is an absolute trash place in which case she'd be judging you anyway on picking the complete trash place. If she does call that a red flag, she just filtered herself out for you. You don't want a girl that's that shallow. Reasonable women understand dating is a number game just as much for men as for women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 10:11 PM
5	What do women like about going out on a date? Particularly for first dates, the point of the date is to confirm basic social compatibility, Not impress by flexing. If you think it is, that's ultimately where things will later go off the rails when you can no longer maintain the charade. If a girl is actually into you, not your money (which is what you should be selecting for), The venue shouldn't be of much consequence besides being safe, public and not noisy. You should be spending no more than a set of coffees or a set of beers or two for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/25 10:08 PM
1	Nice guys are given contradictory advice that keeps them in a loop and never answers their predicament To extend this, being hot is not just looks. It's confidence and how you carry yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 03:04 PM
–	Locking a man down in your 20s is the worst advice And conversely god forbid men don't want to be only valued for their looks and how much money they make.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 11:45 AM
–	Locking a man down in your 20s is the worst advice And this is why dating is awful in current year of our Lord.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 10:49 AM
2	Women have different rules for guys they're actually attracted to. What a weirdly misogynistic take. "Men have standards, women will fuck anyone" You really going to try to tell me that Men are above banging unattractive women for a one-nighter? And if you think that those women are putting their standards on the floor, you don't understand the game. You're comparing apples to celery. Low life / scumbag is not equal to unattractive. Women will generally not sleep downwards in terms of physical attractiveness, But those disgusting men you're talking about having…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/25 01:23 AM
–	What are some secrets men dont tell women? Actions do speak louder than words, but also your actions also speak. Your actions should match what's your actually looking for. Holding out if you actually want someone with a medium-high drive then holding out is just going to deter the respectful medium-high drive men and leave you with either the disrespectful, or low drive men. To be clear not saying be easy, just be yourself. Dating is tiring enough, we don't want to play games and if you play hard to get, I'm just moving on, as someone w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 12:07 PM
16	Women have different rules for guys they're actually attracted to. Yes. I am not sure what's so confusing about this. It's not hard to understand, so now go work on being part of that group of guys they are attracted to. Are you really telling me that you behave equally to someone who is looking and acting like a low life, versus someone who looks and acts like a fun, interesting, "cool" person who you would like to become friends with? It's no different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/25 07:36 PM
1	Women’s vetting does filter out the majority of men The more I read posts like this, even as a guy who has struggled to get and stay in a relationship, it really just feels like you're just whining as to why you're not getting picked. The dating market sucks. You have to accept that, stop whining about it and optimize the things that are in your control with it. Go touch grass, workout, put work into yourself building confidence, humor, optimizing your looks, building a friend network, doing things that are worth talking about, and actually put y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/25 07:30 PM
1	The internet has made dating easier, and not harder It's a paradox. More options also means more competition, and better odds that maybe you'll find your Prince charming, so why stop and settle with someone you'd be reasonably happy with? In that world you were talking about before pre-social media, depending on if you lived in a big city or not, somewhere around 50 max people that were in your first and second order circles (friend of a friend) that were dateable. Out of that pool, maybe John ticks 16 out of 20 desired qualities, But since odds …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 09:13 PM
6	How true is the take that "women talk to one dude at time" It's simultaneously disrespectful of the majority of women I have attempted to date to just ghost, cancel plans last minute, lead me on or otherwise not provide basic respect for my time/energy. That's just the way the world works, I understand, but Before I can give you exclusivity at 2 to 3 dates, I need to know that you're not just going to flake abruptly on date 8, after the whole time telling me everything's fine, then breaking up and saying I'm just not into you. In the majority of situati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 03:19 PM
5	How true is the take that "women talk to one dude at time" After 2-3 dates? Are you talking about partners that come from IRL, or strangers (online dating, social events)?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 02:36 PM
-1	Women are amazing I get what you're trying to say, but you're missing the debate here. It's not about how good women actually are, it's the fact that Men are struggling to meet and pair up with said women, for all the myriad of claimed reasons, true or false. Take your white knighting elsewhere. Sorry that your DMs are not going to be flooded for defending the fairer sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 07:04 PM
–	Men need to wake up, women were never truly attracted to you like you thought I mean, of course it exists. It's equally absurd to say that all humans are equally attractive to everybody, which is evident by the fact that a majority of men fawn over supermodels, and women fawn over moderately muscular, Beachbody Men. It's subjective and you can't put a number on it, But generally you can rank people in terms of sexual attraction to a general audience, based on traits that are sexually valued societally and evolutionarily. Sure there are men who fawn over curvy and overweig…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 06:27 PM
11	The new Tea app kinda proves hypergamy It does prove hypergamy. Hypergamy meaning women attempt to date above their league. Trick is that said women are then mad when a proper chunk of those men were not actually interested in dating exclusively below their league and proceeded to date around. I'd also be curious the number of these guys who actually declared they were exclusive with said woman, versus just going on 2-4 dates and dropping them, which is by no means against the rules.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 06:16 PM
3	CMV: The next generation of women will have an even harder time dating "we're going to actually have to work to get a relationship with a man, woe is us!" Most of the things you are quoting are perfectly reasonable asks imo. Particularly in the context of the current dating scene where it's an absolute wasteland for average men. The expectations being put on them are much higher than are being put on those women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/25 01:37 AM
–	Are young men failing at dating because they aren't dedicating enough time and effort to it? Well, it's not for no reason. There's plenty of pragmatic reasons born out of the current market and societal situation. Doesn't make it good, but it is what it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/25 06:01 PM
–	Are young men failing at dating because they aren't dedicating enough time and effort to it? This logic kills me. You're out here pretending as if your parents were running the numbers on how much it cost to raise you, and waited until they had the right job and savings. They just did it, and found a way. If you hold this logic that you need to keep saving to be able to have enough money to raise a family, it's never going to happen. Sure there are people who probably don't have enough money to be raising kids properly, but If you're smart enough to even be concerned about these things,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/25 05:59 PM
8	Love and sex is not a right Well, because it isn't either. The concept of a right has been corrupted in general. To say it more generally you do not have the right to anything that requires someone else's effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/25 07:33 PM
0	Men Can't Be Blamed for Age Gap Relationships Because Women Are the Sexual Selectors and Choosing to Be in Those Relationships I see what you're getting at, and I generally mostly agree. I think this opinion will catch a lot of flack because it seems to be making the behavior of the old man not matter. Which is not the point you're making necessarily. The point is that it is consensual from both parties. Most people would view such an age Gap as unusual, but there are plenty of people who would view many relationship dynamics as unusual, And generally the judging would be placed on both parties. Where here it's being pl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/25 02:27 AM
2	Straight men on this subreddit, would you take a magic, gene-altering pill to become gay? (Not a satire question. Be serious.) No. I cannot imagine that it is actually easier for a gay man to find a partner. I think that's just something some straight men say to cope. The pool of gay men that are single is by definition way smaller than single women. You're also presuming so many things that it's a meaningless thought experiment. "Presume homophobia doesn't exist" there has never been a time in history where there wasn't some level of homophobia. Do I also get to presume that I'm a billionaire? On top of that this seems…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/25 04:24 PM
1	“Most criminals are raised by single mothers” is just code for “We blame women for the actions of men”. Stop trying to pin me in a box. This not a binary comparison where all single mothers are awful, and all dual parent households are angelic. No one worth acknowledging is claiming that. Plenty of single mothers do a great job and their kids turn out great. But statistically and what should be obvious in reality, with someone's demands so split and burden they're not going to on average do as well as If that same parent had a co-parent both to help take off the load and provide. That's just reali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/25 12:47 PM
1	“Most criminals are raised by single mothers” is just code for “We blame women for the actions of men”. Why is trauma, mental health, abuse, neglect, and environment never a factor in people’s heads when it comes to these situations? They are factors that dispose people to be more likely to commit crimes. And a couple of those, neglect, abuse and environment are factors that are more likely to be conflated with the effects of single motherhood compared to dual parent households. And to be clear, I'm not saying that all single mothers are bad, Don't care, Don't manage to find enough time, etc, or t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 11:09 PM
1	“Most criminals are raised by single mothers” is just code for “We blame women for the actions of men”. I'm not really sure who's saying that. Their attributing the problems with single motherhood more to the problems that arise from The common single motherhood issues: Compromised amount of time with the child due to having to work, and/or compromise on amount of income available to raise the child. Thousands of years of evidence points to the idea that both the mother and father impart different and important values and influences on a child, so the lack of a father figure in a child's life He's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/25 06:19 PM
1	Finances, career and success are overrated for men In fairness, edited my comment to better include a scenario with Guy D who provides a more fair extreme example. I think you need to clarify whether you're talking about for a short-term relationship or long. For short term, absolutely they don't care And they're going to pick Guy D over the others, but for a long-term I still think Guy B is going to see the most success. It's a balance. They want to come home to a pretty face, but they also want that pretty face to either provide for them or at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/25 07:12 PM
1	Finances, career and success are overrated for men I don't think you understand what bad faith is If you think I'm not debating in good faith already. I'll give you grace though. I do agree that given guys a and b she is choosing b. And I don't think I was creating such an extreme example compared to you. But let's insert Guy C in lieu of Guy B, Guy c has all the characteristics of B, but instead of a respectable nothing special 60K job, he now works a 40k bartending job, And before that he hopped around various hourly jobs. While we're here let…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/25 06:59 PM
1	Finances, career and success are overrated for men What would you suggest then are the primary factors that are important? I would also be curious to see what data you're referring to, as well I don't have specific studies on hand, all of the studies I have seen, seem to indicate that women tend to date across to up in terms of perceived financial/career success. How big a difference they need is an interesting discussion, but The majority of relationships seem to show that women are unlikely to be interested in a long-term relationship with a m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/25 05:55 PM
3	Redpill men, what do you have to offer, what do you bring to the table? Yes. Agreed and so that leads to the problem where women are choosing more and more to just go thirsty. I absolutely will throw blame at some men as well. They haven't reacted well to the new paradigm. From both sides it's kind of a self-fulfilling shit sandwich.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 03:55 PM
9	Redpill men, what do you have to offer, what do you bring to the table? Ironically, The mindset you just described is not actually necessarily as fully attractive and providing to a woman as you think. Let's assume you pull in that 1m a year. It sounds like you don't actually end up leaving any time to Care for a woman, as you're putting out fires from 7:00 a.m. to 8, And then you get home exhausted, with no time or energy to talk, eat with her, enjoy her company, and all the intangibles that come with a relationship. She's not going to feel like you're there for he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:29 PM
10	Redpill men, what do you have to offer, what do you bring to the table? Here's my take. I don't think anyone is sitting there thinking that any given woman is evil. It's just malaligned incentives. It's that a huge set of factors have aligned to disincentivize women AND men from pairing up like they used to. To give a good example of a good natured one gone bad, our increased interconnectedness. Back in the 80s, your set of available options were ~15 guys that you knew from school or a third place (club, bar etc). So you we're happy with the guy who checked 15 out o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 01:23 PM
12	Redpill men, what do you have to offer, what do you bring to the table? I wouldn't go as far as him, but I agree with the sentiment, and trust me there's plenty of other guys who agree with the sentiment. Being so dismissive is putting gasoline on the fire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/25 11:14 AM
6	What going to happen to the dating scene in 10 to 20 years? Well, except birth rates in the West and developed countries are at historically low levels...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/25 10:19 PM
–	I've tried helping a few younger guys get dates, something is wrong here. To expand on part number one, many will give the chance of a first date, but if Sparks are not roaring by the end of the date, game over, Even though it's unlikely that a true long-lasting romantic spark could happen so fast. If you're dealing with a stranger you met online, The first one should just be about sing whether you can socially get along, and look for glaring incompatibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/25 09:57 PM
3	Money standards between two adults when it comes to dating. Because if she is pursuing a long-term relationship with you, she wants to see that you have a vision for what you want your life to look like and that you are driven by something. You don't need to want to strive to be the next Steve Jobs, but needs to be clear that you have a goal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/25 05:01 PM
1	How would dating change if sex wasnt regulated by society and the current shaming of sex was gone? Historically we are in the most sexually liberal era in known history. If you're in certain sections of culture, there is no shame or regulation. Some level of shame from excessive promiscuity is both natural and at least in my opinion beneficial. Freely given sex is meaningless in that act is meant to have a meaning that helps build and maintain bonds between a couple.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/25 09:28 PM
2	Most problems in the current dating climate would be solved if everyone was at a healthy weight While I am always in favor of people getting down to a healthy weight for health reasons, This wouldn't fix it. People will always find things that differentiate the physical attractiveness of a partner. Just look back to say the '50s when obesity was much less common. You still had plenty of ugly guys and gals and plenty of beautiful guys and gals. If we're talking the problem with dating as it relates to physical appearance, the issue is that we are too picky, as a result of being spoiled for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 12:22 AM
2	Most problems in the current dating climate would be solved if everyone was at a healthy weight While I am always in favor of people getting down to a healthy weight for health reasons, This wouldn't fix it. People will always find things that differentiate the physical attractiveness of a partner. Just look back to say the '50s when obesity was much less common. You still had plenty of ugly guys and gals and plenty of beautiful guys and gals. If we're talking the problem with dating as it relates to physical appearance, the issue is that we are too picky, as a result of being spoiled for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/25 12:20 AM
6	Q4M: Why don't males shoot their shot anymore? And this exact situation exasperates the problem. The brash in bold men aren't going to care and keep doing it, while The more respectful men are going to heed that recommendation (wise or not), so the only people that women have hitting on them are the brash, And when those brash men do brashman things and don't want to settle down and just want a hookup It leads them to ask "why are all men bad?!?!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/25 03:00 PM
7	I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck. I'm not discouraged, I'm just pointing out facts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/25 05:10 PM
25	I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck. Yeah, but the problem is is that those feminists have ruined it for the rest of you, and has really discouraged the more respectful men from approaching all women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/25 11:50 PM