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People being attracted to you and dating are two different things.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 08:19 PM
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There’s no gumption in assumptions.
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 03:13 PM
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Vigilant or easily triggered?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 03:05 PM
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What are we supposed to do with this information?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 02:59 PM
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No worries. You’ll find your way :)
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 11:57 PM
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You’re asking me what I think you should do with your time?
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 09:32 PM
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Then you move on
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 07:20 PM
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We’re going around in circles here. Let’s not fight over which came first, the shitty person or the shitty egg, and instead focus on what we can do better. I’ve already said that we do a piss poor job of providing men with an outlet for their frustrations. But that doesn’t mean they get to just trash everyone else because the world has been somewhat unkind to them. People’s lack of sympathy for these groups stems from how these men handle feeling mistreated. It’s one thing to be mad at a system …
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 09:27 PM
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I don’t have all the answers to your problems, I just don’t believe the current solutions are working. I don’t follow destiny much, but I’ve watched many of A&P’s videos and while I will say they do try and play at both sides, they will always argue in favor of the their base: The aggrieved young man. They may act high and mighty, but they still peddle the RP talking points they claim to hate so much. I mean seriously, look at their titles and tell me how concerned they are for objectivity. It’s…
/r/ExRedPill23/10/22 04:12 PM
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RP feeds off of the insecurities of men who “can’t perform masculinity” well enough to attract a partner. In their eyes, attraction is a simple formula: looks + money (+ or - status)= value, and only women can give you value. For most of them, they are lacking in one or more of these departments and spend their time either trying to compensate for or demean these traits. A hypergamous woman, in this case, is almost biblical in her ability to deliver judgments. She can single-handedly deprive men…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/22 04:24 PM
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Dating is hard. I’d rather find a good guy and hit the ejector seat as soon as possible than have to wade through hundreds of people with bad intentions. I’ve heard people describe getting into relationships over the past ten years as catching the last chopper flight out of Vietnam. Even if I did click with another person while in a relationship, I’d be so focused on wanting to keep what I have to really enjoy the extra attention. There’s no part of me that wants that type of lifestyle. I’d rath…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 04:04 PM
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There are a lack of resources for mens issues in dating. But if A&P and Destiny are the only ones you’re going to for this, then you still won’t be much better off. Also, no one will have sympathy for straight men so long as they continue to belittle the issues of every other group.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 01:42 PM
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I wasn’t then. I am now. Good for you, you finally got one thing right. Edit: extra props for the misandrist comment. Really original 👌 Edit 2: +1 for the block
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 02:52 AM
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And I’m saying that the good men don’t call themselves incels. Once you self identifying as an incel, you’re already a lost cause. You drank the kool-aid and you became the thing you were trying to avoid. Congratulations 🤡 So let me get this straight. You’re crying about men not being heard, complaining about feminism, and defending TRP and Incel ideology? Real mask off moment. I’ve heard all I need to hear.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 02:47 AM
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Dude, you literally accused me of othering just because I used the word “they” in a few sentences. I never said I was an expert. Nor did I say I was speaking on behalf of all men. You’re just dodging my points so you can rely on your persecution complex. You seem to think the incel mindset is only limited to extreme examples. What I am saying is that the incel mindset is more common than you think and that society already has made some efforts to rectify it. Both the feminist and mens rights mov…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 02:26 AM
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I have no idea how you would have gotten that from my responses unless you were choosing to interpret them in the most negative way possible. Sometimes a word is just a word. All I’m saying is that seemingly good natured men may be more susceptible to this type of propaganda because their intentions weren’t actually that pure to begin with. Your belief that this way of thinking is inevitable robs men of their agency and it’s patronizing. Women don’t like being talked down to like they’re lost ch…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 02:01 AM
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This is exactly what I meant, why so sensitive? They is a neutral pronoun, not a personal attack. And according to you I can’t use the word incels without being offensive so what would you have me call…whoever they are? Men? That’s a bit too broad. Lonely guys? We’ve already established that inceldom is not a problem the majority of them have. So what word would you use? I guess it’s time for a new one. I consider myself a realist. I’ve spent a fair amount of time in this space, and the ones who…
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 01:34 AM
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They aren't calling themselves that. Dude, a five minute search on r/incelexit alone should tell you that’s not true. People will only gravitate towards those who don't treat them like shit. The problem is that for a lot of them, “getting treated like shit” equates to being rejected, turned down, or friendzoned. That’s how low of a threshold they have for social interaction. These are universal experiences that they think make them uniquely damned. But when you try to tell them it’s not the end …
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 12:51 AM
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Lonely/depressed men shouldn’t call themselves incels. There’s an ideology attached to that word. I’m all for social change. The real test is waiting to see which side they gravitate towards first on their journey to “self improvement”. Is it the egalitarian side that validates their feelings but places them on equal footing with women, or is it the toxic side that tells them it’s society’s fault and that they deserve the world? Hopefully they make the right choice.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/22 12:03 AM
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You missed the point by about a mile. I’m not insinuating that Peterson is literally the cause of all our woes. What I’m saying is that actual systemic issues are being undermined by the type of rhetoric he promotes. It’s because of him (and all those like him) peddling this ideology that the anti-feminist movement even became a thing. It’s his dedication to the white patriarchal familial structure that leads him to believe that an epidemic of lonely men is the most pressing issue in the modern …
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 11:21 PM
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Aba and Preach are no better than Peterson at times. They give young men the tools and vocabulary to process current events, but behind their friendly demeanor, they are rarely ever sympathetic to women or the LGBTQ. Their platform and content are all geared towards men like Peterson’s audience who struggle to find validity in any non-male centered cause. Their central theme of “modern women bad” can be seen throughout their channel. They just pander to male loneliness while subtly implanting “c…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 05:32 PM
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Do you even know where to start with wealth disparity? A lot of us would love to get started on that, but we can’t without nut jobs like Peterson constantly bitching about an epidemic of “sexless white males”. Like nobody else’s problem matter, as if returning to the 50s will solve everything. That sense of aggrieved entitlement is why no one has sympathy for incels. They long for a time when they had more authority over “female nature”, when masculinity was more attainable through tangible mean…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 05:22 PM
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The red pill in this case isn’t helping you, it’s validating your lived experiences by giving you the excuse “the game is rigged against me”. Treating people like shit (like TRP often suggests) will not remedy your situation. Reevaluating your priorities will. It sounds like you’re already getting matches, choose to focus only on the ones who reciprocate your interest. Anything less and they’re not for you. There are plenty of women who don’t mind making the first move. Maybe try Bumble, so the …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 03:33 PM
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Self improvement is the goal. If you’re still thinking that you’re going to get anything out of it except for a lust for life, then you’ve been doing it wrong. Up to this point, you have been going through the motions so to speak, with the desired outcome of attracting people to you. But this is just a misguided attempt at seeking validation. The goal is not to improve so you can be good enough for someone, you should be doing these things because they make you feel better about yourself. It’s c…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 02:53 AM
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That sounds like a you problem, not a problem with women.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 04:36 PM
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If you’re out at a restaurant with a friend, what is stopping you from throwing your food away and eating exclusively off of their plate? Respect, decency, and the fact that you’re already committed to your own food. People are a lot like plates. We may look from time to time, but that doesn’t mean we no longer want what we have.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 04:10 PM
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Guys who follow f&f usually aren’t usually the type to care about accuracy. I knew he wasn’t a practicing Muslim. He just uses his ethnicity as a novelty and to make himself look “exotic” to his fans who know nothing about the region.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 10:17 PM
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Love FD
/r/ExRedPill30/08/22 12:18 AM
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It’s what you’re being
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 09:30 PM
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There’s no need for manipulation when you’re not a total pos
/r/ExRedPill28/08/22 08:58 PM
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Or they automatically get the subtext and don’t need to have it spelled out for them like you.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:56 AM
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Yes, because I’m not a hyper-sensitive flower hell-bent on making every comment about myself. I’d like to refer back to a previous commenter: Do you feel personally called out for your own bad behavior or what, because you have no reason to be this defensive. The only guys I saw on that original post who were as angry (and down-voted) as you were the ones too simple minded to realize that every vague comment made about a group of men isn’t an automatic attack on all of them.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:54 AM
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If you are easily triggered by women using phrases like “some” or “a lot” when referring to men then maybe you aren’t as detached from that RP persecution complex as you’d like to believe.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:41 AM
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I love how you consider this a rampant problem yet you have only been able to cite one post where this rhetoric was tolerated. And given the context of that post, it still doesn’t prove your point that this sub in general has issues stereotyping all men. If you want to complain about that one post then fine, I hope you feel vindicated. But please get off your high horse and stop pretending like you’re the only one here capable of empathy.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 11:42 PM
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I think given the context of the OP it makes sense that people would say this stuff. These people are merely sharing their experiences. It just seems like they’re applying it to “all” men because they were asked what are some of the ways in which people have low expectations of men in general. Not misandrist at all.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 11:35 PM
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KS spoke to a special niche of black men who felt like they were being overlooked. His entire premise was basically telling women to stop overlooking decent men (which in theory isn’t a bad thing), but his messaging was riddled with shaming language meant to bolster the insecurities of desperate women. ”You need to lower your standards or else you will *die alone; Men don’t care about your achievements, **we only care about your looks…which are average at best btw; We control marriage; If you we…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 05:10 AM
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It’s a venting sub. It’s not my place to judge anybody there who’s frustrated with their situation. If you spent any significant time on there, I’m sure you’d find, like I did, a significant amount of people struggling to connect with their partners on a deeper emotional level. If you want to reduce that to “feigning” it to get sex, then that says more about your one-dimensional, cynical view of men than anything else.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 02:52 AM
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I’m so glad you shared this because this is a topic that often goes unaddressed when talking about red pill recovery. The RP is really good at reducing humans down to our most simple characteristics. Women are fragile creatures looking to exchange sex for safety and resources. Men are selfish brutes who are easily swayed by their lesser instincts. I admit that after several bad dating experiences of my own (and after spending enough time in red pill spaces) I started to believe that men just wer…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 10:57 PM
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You barely see anything because we all want the same things: to be loved, respected, and desired. It’s just common sense. The problem is that these spaces often take commonly held outlooks and extrapolate them into meaning something totally different. Take F&F. Their general attitude towards relationships is that any compromise with a woman will result in a major power imbalance that you can never recover from. So a simple question of “what should I look for in a woman?” would likely include som…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 01:25 AM
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The “be ok with being alone” line isn’t them conceding to your negative views. This is meant to address another harsh truth about life in general, there’s no such thing as “happily ever after”. There isn’t one perfect person out there who will like everything you like and finish your sentences. The truth is there are probably hundreds if not thousands of women who you could be compatible with long term. Women who would be willing to work with you, who see your flaws and vulnerabilities and won’t…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 01:18 AM
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Women know that having a bigger dick does not translate to more pleasure the same way men know having bigger boobs doesn’t translate into being more fun in bed. The beauty standards are what sells, they’re not actually indicative of what average people want.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/22 03:02 PM
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they often suggest things to be better than they are Why is it better to assume the worst? The other person doesn’t want you to feel badly about yourself and is reminding you of your value in their eyes. A clear and simple “no” without any follow up leaves the entire interaction open for misinterpretations, and guys will often go with the scenario that is the most painful. It's not wise to not think if maybe you did something wrong last time, because in order to limit mistakes you must analyse w…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 02:15 PM
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What could women possibly have to gain from lying about this? Do guys say they don’t care about boob size or a girl’s makeup to be nice? Any person who uses stuff like that against you was obviously a prick to begin with. But the rest of us have been pretty damn clear that our preferences across the board aren’t limited to only a handful of characteristics.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/22 01:05 AM
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Not true, and I don’t care. You came here in bad faith.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:35 PM
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Thank you for proving my point. Good luck! 👍
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:33 PM
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You can try, but in your current state you’ll be running right back to black pill theories in a heartbeat because you completely lack the introspection required to make yourself into a desirable candidate.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:29 PM
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Doesn’t make it fact. If you want to believe it, then it will become true.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:24 PM
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This sub has answered that exact question about a thousand times. It’s clear you haven’t even bothered to read the detox kit. Why exactly are you here? This isn’t a debate sub. Either you want to change or you don’t. But this isn’t the way you go about challenging your narratives.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:21 PM
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Stop trying to speak for women. It’s painfully obvious you have no idea what we want, you’re just embarrassing yourself at this point.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:13 PM
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You are twisting my words the same way you twist your reality. Plenty of women date short guys, that’s just a fact. You don’t speak for women. You’re only 19. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 01:05 PM
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There’s nothing realistic about anything you’re saying. And it’s certainly not the truth.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 11:53 AM
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Nope! 😊 You want me to agree with you so you can feel better about giving up. But I’m not going to help you k*ll yourself. There’s always hope. If you want to be miserable, that’s fine too. But it’s nobody else’s responsibility.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 10:48 PM
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Any guy who talks and thinks like you is guaranteed not to get laid. That’s for sure.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 10:07 PM
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And what you see is filtered through the biased lens of your own insecurities. If you go around looking for reasons to be upset you’ll find them.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 09:59 PM
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Whatever you say bro 😉
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 09:50 PM
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He’s 19, he’s never even been in a bar 🤦🏾‍♀️
/r/ExRedPill13/07/22 03:15 PM
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It truly is the gateway drug into the manosphere. And because it had scientific backing at one point, it gives credence to all the other red pill arguments.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 09:42 PM
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That’s normal, but what can you really do about it? Sulk and make yourself even less attractive?
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 08:21 PM
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True, but it’s not healthy to hinge your happiness on the conditional validation of others. Like attracts like. Miserable people attract other miserable people. Happy and healthy people attract others like themselves. No happy, well adjusted person wants to be with someone who brings them down. And I’m not talking about toxic positivity, but no one wants to feel like they’re the only thing keeping their partner alive.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 08:19 PM
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It’s not a woman’s job to make you happy. Nobody wants that amount of responsibility.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 07:29 PM
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Do whatever makes you happy and is within your control to do.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 07:18 PM
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You need to stop watching red pill content period. Find some other role models. Dr. Nerdlove gives good advice that’s based in reality.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:51 PM
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What you are describing is a fear of rejection stemming from feelings of inadequacy.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:35 PM
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You have no reliable way of assessing your odds because you don’t have enough life experience yet. Your life up to this point has been high school, and high school is not real life. Neither is tinder. The truth is you’re afraid of rejection so you’d rather believe things were over before you even got started than face the harsh realities of life head on.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:32 PM
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As cliche as it sounds, It’s only truly over once you stop trying. Giving up entirely eliminates the possibility that it ever happens. In general, guys who have truly gone their own way don’t feel the need to announce it or create an entire movement justifying their choice to remain hopeless. They haven’t truly let go. They have decided that if they’re going to give up, they want to at least know others are going to be missing out as well. Hence the phrase “misery loves company”.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:20 PM
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Have you seen the MGTOW subs lately? All they do is talk about is women. MGTOW is a collection of tormented men disappointed that the content they invested in didn’t work. In my opinion, it’s a cope. They know they can’t turn off their attraction to women, but they lack the social skills to be able to get with one. So “going your own way” is the next best thing. You can hop from pill to pill if you want to. But I’ve never met a man who was happier because of it.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:14 PM
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It started off as a way to give men answers, but later divulged into a way to keep men miserable. Miserable people consume their content and buy their courses, but it never works. Because if you didn’t need them anymore then they wouldn’t be making money. Most guys come for the help, but stay for the camaraderie. It’s basically a cult at this point.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:08 PM
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This guy also does a great job of breaking down a lot of your troubles and fears.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 05:26 PM
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No no, don’t you see? It feels real to him, therefore it must be a universal rule that applies to everyone lol.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 05:18 PM
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This isn’t the sub for this. Try asking r/short
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 04:54 PM
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Yup. Did and would do it again. Most girls don’t want 10s.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 04:27 PM
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No offense, but you lack the maturity and emotional intelligence to have a serious, nuanced discussion about these things. Nobody on Reddit can save you. Get professional help.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 04:14 PM
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I say this out of compassion: you are not ready to change. You have not expressed one rational thought in this entire thread. Just classic red pill talking points and speculations about situations you’ve never been in. Until you accept the possibility that you could be wrong, you will always be this miserable. If you end up up old and alone, it will be nobody else’s fault but your own. And not because of your height or your average looks, but because you refuse to actually work towards your own …
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 04:09 PM
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When it comes too hookups, tall and attractive men are the only ones getting them. Bullshit. You can keep telling yourself that if you want to but it’s far from a fact. For relationships its different however its usually because the ugly guy is wealthy or is a good person. So you’re saying it’s bad that women like them for more than just their looks? I am afraid the woman feels like she can do better. She most likely can and has slept with better looking men when she was younger. That’s a you pr…
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 03:40 PM
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One thing that really helped me when I started going to the gym (as a woman no less) is that everybody is there because they hate something about their body. They hate it enough to dedicate hours of the day trying to change it, and that’s what they’re focusing on when they’re in the gym. Everyone there is insecure about something, no matter how big and intimidating (for them probably more so). Just go in there with a plan and stick to it. Get plenty of sleep. Really focus on that mind-muscle con…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 02:20 AM
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What do I see? 6’4 good looking guy with a girl and mainly that. Are those really the ONLY guys you see with women? Maybe some 40 year old ugly man is paying every bill so he is in a relationship with his 45 year old wife. You have literally no way of knowing this. You sound young, and I’m guessing you’re rather inexperienced as well. But you are just making stuff up to be upset about at this point. Ik hating women for what I dont have doesn’t solve anything but I am jealous of women as its easy…
/r/ExRedPill11/07/22 12:24 AM
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Of course when I see reality for what it is, it gets called confirmation bias. This is called hubris. We all want to believe we’re the smartest person in the world who just sees things better than anybody else. But the truth is you’re not that special, none of us are. I can guarantee these aren’t even your own original thoughts and you’re just parroting whatever red pill nonsense you watch on YouTube. But if you can learn from them, you can learn from us. I saw the moon in the sky tonight is tha…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 11:48 PM
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Confirmation bias at its finest. The truth is you see what you want to see and filter out the rest. Take a look at the detox kit, if you really want to change I promise you won’t be disappointed.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 11:39 PM
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Give it a good look, I think you may be surprised. The world isn’t that black and white. There is no “easy” or “hard mode” in real life. You need to remove that language from your vocabulary. Applying video game terminology like that to the real world is pointless. Everyone has privileges and detriments they must live with. Women are no exception.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 11:34 PM
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You’ve come a long way my friend :) From laughing at “gym bros” to making gains yourself. Here are some of my fav fitness subreddits to aid in your journey: r/beginnerfitness r/gainit r/cico r/mealprepsunday r/bodyweightfitness
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 10:31 PM
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Whole lot of generalizations there bub. Why don’t you actually read the detox kit before you go making a fool out of yourself like you did on Ask black girls.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/22 10:21 PM
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I have seen tons of mad single women asking "where are all the good men", but not a ton single men. This is literally the entire manosphere, what are you talking about lol?
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 06:29 PM
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Life is rarely full of absolutes. Can you name one thing that all men agree on in terms of women’s looks? Probably not, and that’s how it’s supposed to be.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 06:01 PM
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It’s a small minority of very vocal women that the Internet has collectively decided to dunk on. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but this idea that girls care way too much about height is overblown.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/22 12:18 PM
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I believe the word you’re looking for is “molded” /s
/r/ExRedPill30/06/22 05:14 PM
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Then don’t spend all your time on dating apps. Apps are convenient and the most modern way to meet people, but they are known for being extremely shallow. Meeting people in person takes time and energy and makes the rejections more personal, but you at least get the chance to show more sides of yourself. It’s a trade off. Look, I get what you’re saying, but there really is no easy answer here. And all this bitterness surely isn’t helping.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/22 08:30 PM
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You’re thinking about this in the most basic of terms, which I don’t blame you for as RP theories are based on strategy and maximizing your odds. There’s this common belief among guys that women are always being approached by the “best of the best”, when in reality a lot of the attention they get is not positive (think cat-calls and sexual harassment). They would have you believe that even the most unattractive woman is getting flown around the world and proposed to by 100 guys on a nightly basi…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/22 02:10 PM
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Shoot for sure. Like I said, everyone can respect a respectful approach. What people assume when they see a pretty girl however is that she’s only being approached by the “best of the best”, when in reality a lot of the attention is not positive (think cat-calls and sexual harassment). For this reason, a polite show of interest is a well appreciated breath of fresh air.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 07:01 PM
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This guy does a fairly good job of breaking down elements of TRP, the PUA community, incels, and even BP ideology a bit. He even offers a lot of healthy advice to counter the RP teachings. As a woman it really helped open my eyes to some of the inner insecurities of guys in these communities.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 06:05 PM
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As a woman with many gorgeous friends, I’ve literally never heard them place this much importance on a man’s looks lol. I have however heard many many men think for women on this matter. I think this is more a projection of insecure people who don’t want to believe an attractive person would be capable of loving them. People can’t see past their above average looks and assume they must be the same way. Do looks matter to beautiful people, yes. Do they all believe they’re the most important thing…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 04:29 PM
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You’ve met attractive women who told you they were single because they were “holding out” for the hottest possible option? Doubt it lol.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 03:54 PM
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This is just pure speculation brought on by your insecurities.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 01:08 PM
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They receive more interest and by proxy more offers, but that doesn’t mean they’ll take them. I think it’s important to remember that all attention isn’t good attention. You don’t get to choose what kind of people find you attractive. For every nice guy who avoids her, there’s ten douche-nozzles who think they have a chance and will aggressively shoot their shot. They have to sift through a lot of bs and may have a harder time telling who is being genuine (because guys will say anything to get i…
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 10:33 PM
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A few days ago, a guy left a comment on one of my dating posts telling me that I’d be desperate soon (I was saying that I wasn’t afraid to be alone). Checked his comment history and low and behold, nothing but comments on fake and fraud. He spends his time trolling the dating over thirty subreddit now. Those men are lowly and miserable, it’s impossible for me to feel bad for them at this point. They don’t want help, they want to be believe they’re the world’s greatest victims and (somehow) it’s …
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:52 PM
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Ignore them no, but OP doesn’t seem like he’s capable of having a nuanced conversation on the matter anyway. Not when you lead with a title like that.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 06:05 PM
2

Of what? Victims of what?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 06:04 PM
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Dude, you don’t know what love is. You don’t know what relationships are. You don’t even know what abuse is. Every single one of these words you have twisted to suit your narrative. You’ve made yourself perfectly clear. You believe your partner is only there to meet your needs while you offer nothing in return. You are literally fighting for your right to be miserable, and you cry abuse when the other person doesn’t want to stay and put up with your shit. This is some immature shit I’d expect ou…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:44 PM
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And there’s a reason people avoid miserable people like you.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:39 PM
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Yes, that could include communicating how I’m feeling, but it’s not the other persons job to make me feel better. This really isn’t that difficult. Talking to your partner about your emotions is ok. Complaining for months on end about the state of the world and making excuses not to better your own life is not. It’s not cute, it’s not quirky, and it’s not your entire personality. You are a prime example of old saying “you can’t truly love someone until you love yourself”. No one who loves you wi…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:35 PM
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No, depression and feelings of worthlessness are not common problems people experience in a relationship (not that you would know). Like I said, I deal with my problems so my partner doesn’t have to. You might want to try it some time.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:27 PM
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Boohoo, nobody wants to stick around because the only thing I bring to the table is stress and anxiety. And I don’t want to fix my problems so I’ll just call them abusive to guilt trip them for leaving me—sounds totally healthy OP.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 11:10 AM
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If only you put as much work into fixing your problems as you do defending them. Then maybe you’d actually be worth sticking around for.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 11:05 AM
2

Rules for thee and not for me, am I right?
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 04:01 AM
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OP is delusional. He expects a woman to just accept him being an emotional black hole without consequences. It’s a sign of someone who’s truly out of touch.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:40 AM
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Depression is his entire personality. How dare you not want to be with him for it /s
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:34 AM
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I’m not responsible for your feelings. Your mental health is your problem. Get that through your head. If I choose to leave someone half way through the relationship because they stop working on themselves and I realize we’re no longer compatible, that is not abuse. You made the choice to remain miserable, I made the choice to leave you for it. You’re just looking for an excuse to be a victim—which is why you deserve to be single.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:30 AM
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You and I have very different definitions of the term. Someone telling you something you don’t want to hear is not abuse. You don’t seem capable of handling any type of criticism. Perhaps love isn’t what you should be looking for at the moment.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 03:24 AM
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Someone saying “I can’t help you anymore, you need to start putting in more effort or I’m leaving” is not abuse but ok.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 02:04 AM
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Nobody else seems to think it’s callous or judgmental to put themselves first, only you. You seem to be mad everyone else isn’t willing to put your needs ahead of there’s—How mature. You complained earlier about the just-world fallacy, but what exactly should I make of your argument here? You expect your partner to be totally onboard with hearing you complain 24/7 out of complete love and devotion to you. It’s pathetic how one-sided your world view is. I’m not trying to convince you not to give …
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 01:41 AM
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I don’t care. I’m not here to understand why your life sucks. I’m giving you an outsiders perspective and using it to explain why you’re likely to remain single for a while. You don’t seem to understand how parasitic your mindset is. You understand how draining negativity can be, so why do you insist on bringing another person into it? People who are miserable usually act like it (as you’ve shown here). It’s not an innocuous things. It doesn’t matter if you’re being verbally abusive, you’re brin…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 01:38 AM
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Something tells me they turned on you because you insisted on harping on your problems and they didn’t allow you to just be miserable. Like I said, depression is not a personality trait. Women should not be expected to soak up your emotional excess for fear of being labeled a bad person. We are already expected to give too much of ourselves away in a relationship. You seem to have a misunderstanding of what boundaries should exist in a relationship. Your partner is not your therapist or your doc…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 01:09 AM
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You’ve yet to explain why someone would want to stick around for a miserable partner who will only make them miserable by default when they could get a healthy, functioning partner who wants to look on the bright side of things. This is an entirely self serving thing to demand of somebody. You’re allowed to have all the emotions you want and they’re not allowed to feel overburdened by them. They should be happy having a partner who weighs them down instead of lifts them up and helps take a load …
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 12:50 AM
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Only in your head they do
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 12:44 AM
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Well a lot of women DO demand their boyfriends/husbands be more vulnerable, then when they do, immediately go cold on them or insult them. And a lot of them don’t. What are you basing this off exactly? I know it’s not from experience. You’re too inexperienced to be this cynical about dating. I've heard all kinds of bad things that were done or said by nasty abusive women. It's not a stereotype, it's a thing that happens, a lot. Maybe not the majority of cases, but a lot of cases. So again, a who…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 12:38 AM
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I don’t need to know you. Just based off your texts you sound like the type of person I’d hate to be around. No one is looking down on you for feeling depressed. We’re looking down on you for making it everyone else’s problem to deal with. You have a very unrealistic view of relationships if you think your partner is just supposed to put up with whatever pessimistic shit you spew without question. You don’t care what type of emotional toll that would take on them. Your motives are entirely selfi…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 07:24 PM
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The problem is the weaknesses you’re describing aren’t average problems most people have to endure in a relationship. Emotional vulnerability sure, feelings of worthlessness no. Is it fair that some people would leave their partner if they become depressed? It depends. How much has that person worked on themselves? How many things have they tried to get better? You make it seem like if a person decides to not work on themselves their partner should just be ok with it. Accept it as if depression …
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 07:21 PM
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“Tell that person off” how exactly? Telling you to get help for your problems is not shutting someone down. Telling someone to make the effort to move on so they can live their life is not offensive. Refusing to be an incubator for another persons misery is a healthy boundary to make. Why would anyone want to stick around for someone who complains all the time and has no intentions of making their life better? If I love that person, I’d hate seeing them miserable. So I’d do everything in my powe…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 07:06 PM
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You’ve yet to list an actual problem besides “the world sucks”. No shit. I’m living in it too as is everyone else around me. I have actual depression and I’m still not as pitiful to be around as you. Because I take responsibility for the things in life I can control and don’t expect the people around me to pick up my slack. I take my meds, I go to therapy, I take responsibility for my own happiness. It’s called being a healthy adult. And no, that’s not toxic positivity because you can still be m…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 06:58 PM
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Women have it easier only according to the short list of things you have decided have meaning. You are still ignoring everything else that doesn’t fit into your fantasy. You are living in delusion, because you are comparing your everyday life with a fantasy inside your head, not the actual experience. You are purposefully making yourself miserable by imagining fake scenarios to get offended by. I appreciate you taking the time to follow feminist subreddits, but don’t get angry when you see some …
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 06:51 PM
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No dude, this isn’t a just world, you’re not as deep as you think. Everyone else has this figured out already, they’re just mature enough to move past it. It’s just you bitterly clinging onto its remnants, expecting your partners to always give a shit on your behalf.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 06:36 PM
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But that’s not what you’re talking about. Theres a stark difference between displaying emotional vulnerabilities and feeling sorry for yourself. Most women are willing to put up with some level of vulnerability from their men (whether we know how to handle it properly or not is society’s fault). But no woman worth her salt is going to deal with a man who just wants to complain about his life. Why would we? We have problems too and we’re working on them. Expecting us to deal with yours is additio…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 06:25 PM
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I can almost guarantee you have exactly zero experience with people like this and are just repeating the same tired RP talking points you hear others complaining about all the time. Dude, go outside and actually interact with people your own age. Not everyone who goes to a club is a CC riding, dumb ditz looking to get pumped and dumped by Chad. Do you even hear yourself? Odds are girls like that wouldn’t even be interested in you anyway, so what’s with all the vitriol? I doubt you’ve even been i…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 06:16 PM
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Pessimism is not attractive. Self-pity is not attractive. Nobody wants to hear about how hard your struggles are unless it’s immediately followed up by what you’re doing to make them better. That’s just how it is. People don’t seek out relationships to feel more miserable, they’re about mutual support. They may want to help you through things, but your struggles are still largely your own. This is what people mean when they say relationships/girlfriends are not the solutions to all your problems…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 06:00 PM
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They have told you, you just ignore them because all their problems seem to pale in comparison to the promises of endless sex. If what you want most is sex, then of course not having it will feel like the end of the world. You are ignoring literally every other aspect of the female experience besides what they can do with their genitals. You have proven you have no real understanding of women’s issues, sexuality, or anatomy. You are viewing their lives solely through the perspective of what you …
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 02:13 PM
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Women are not prizes to be won, so no. Some guys use access to women as a symbol of status and female attention as a sign of their worth. This doesn’t have to be your reality though. Guys who view getting women like accruing capital generally aren’t the happiest most well adjusted people.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 11:47 AM
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Access to casual sex ≠ an oppressive society for men. I know I don't get the full disadvantages of being a woman but I feel like the rejection and isolation I face shouldn't be seen as a minor issue in my life. What this sounds like: I’m unwilling to unlearn my own biases against women because I believe that my desires are the only thing that matter. I can understand where women come from No you don’t. You just dropped ever single red pill theory known to man from memory like it’s your religion.…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 10:50 PM
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Saying “I’m not sexist because I sleep with women” (doesn’t this defeat the purpose of MGTOW?) is the equivalent of a racist saying “I’m not racist, I have black friends”. Not really an argument, just deflection. You admit you’ve been burned in the past and you used red pill logic to help make sense of the world. I see no way you could possibly be impartial on the matter. And your replies prove it. Now answer my question, who are YOU to decide what’s best for women?
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 07:24 PM
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Your behavior here says otherwise. Your red pill views are just opinions too.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 07:07 PM
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They’re totally not sheep lol. They’re all rogue, alpha mavericks who march to a different beat, as long as the drummer is a man of course.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 06:50 PM
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Who are you to decide what’s “best” for women? Your views obviously stem from a place of bitterness and resentment. You gravitate to red pill forums because they validate your feelings on the subject of women even though you claim to have decentered them from your life.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 06:48 PM
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Assuming this is an alt account, I highly doubt that OP. Plenty of people have tried to engage with you but you keep parroting the same talking points. It’s obvious to me you did not come here in good faith.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 06:33 PM
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You have yet to state one original thought. Everything you’ve written has been debunked time and time again.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 05:57 PM
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What are we supposed to do with this information? It sounds like you’ve already made up your mind.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 02:42 PM
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No they don’t work
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 05:23 AM
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👀
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 05:12 AM
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What do you mean by manipulation tactics and whats an example of women using them? Also, what does this have to do with a woman’s sexuality?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 05:25 PM
2

-Yes
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:00 AM
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Ok but women get called sluts even if they don’t have sex, not just for sleeping around. Men get insulted for being virgins, but it’s not like you have to worry about STDS or your reputation. It’s obvious which is better.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 11:01 PM
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The only time I hear men complaining about sluts are when women aren’t sleeping with them lol. Calm down there edge lord, sex isn’t that big of a deal for you to be this dismissive of women’s issues.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 10:58 PM
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No worries :) You wouldn’t know it from looking at his profile either because he deletes all his posts, but if you stick around long enough you’ll see the foolishness.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:55 PM
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I’m not talking about his asking for help, this isn’t just general advice I give out to anybody on this sub. I’m calling out this one poster in particular. He makes multiple posts a day asking for permission to believe some of the most mundane things. Like a few days ago he was asking for permission to like black women because TRP claims they are “manly and unattractive”. He wrote out this whole post full of stereotypes about BW being loud and aggressive and agreed with them because he “actually…
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:43 PM
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Them and their fan base are toxic af. I don’t care how much financial or fitness advice they give, they have nothing of value to offer their fans. Anyone claiming to have gotten anything positive from their show automatically gets the side-eye from me.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 02:44 AM
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I appreciate the change in tone for once, but honestly dude, I don’t think you realize how often you reinforce the same things you’re trying to escape. The “cowards” way out, seriously?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 07:22 PM
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My apologies. But you’re still catering to TRP when you view the ability to access sex as a sign of the “type” of man you are. It’s ok to want your first time to be special, but you shouldn’t be putting so much weight on the experience or think of it as defining your character.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 07:21 PM
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You don’t have to do what everybody else is doing. You have free will. You also don’t need to be told how to feel about a topic. Go outside and experience the world for yourself. You post on here a lot looking for “guidance”, but I think what you want really want is for other people to make decision for you and it’s kinda pathetic. Latching onto every red pill theory you read about and immediately coming here crying and asking if it’s true. Seriously dude, get help.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 07:14 PM
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You started off by saying “I don’t care what others think” And in the very next line “women will judge me waah” lol. This poster is right. Nobody really cares who/how you fuck for your first time. As long as everyone’s a consenting adult, nobody will find this part of your life alarming. The only reason we’re even having this conversation is because you brought it up.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 07:04 PM
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He uses Reddit like a Google search bar for his insecurities. We’ve all been there lol.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 12:37 AM
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For every follower that agrees with him, there are millions that don’t and aren’t subscribed to his channel. Like I said having followers just means people like what you have to say, not that you’re always right. KS channel appealed to men who agreed with his views, so it’d be an incredibly biased sampling to use them as a reference for men everywhere. All I said was that men are capable of liking things outside of his rigid list of attractiveness, something I even confirmed with a comment made …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 10:56 PM
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By nature of it being an opinion alone. Opinions are not required to be supported by evidence. Which is why they carry no weight. Look at the conversation we just had. You gave your own anecdotal evidence to support yours and I gave a link that contradicts yours and supported mine. We can both be right, but in a fact-based argument this would be impossible.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 10:43 PM
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Simply insisting on your opinion and screaming at others don’t make opinions facts. If you think Kevin speaks facts then you don’t know the difference between facts vs fiction.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 10:27 PM
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I know you feel confident, but that doesn’t mean it’s accurate. KS created his own reality, and because he said it with conviction people believed him, even though a lot of what he said can be disproven with simple statistics. So while I respect that as a man you feel more inclined to speak on what men want, your opinions are still just that. Opinions.
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 10:17 PM
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To you…it doesn’t elevate her to you lol. There are plenty of other men though who would find that attractive, which is probably who those women would prefer to date. Men are not a monolith. No matter how much TRP and the manosphere try to reduce dating down to its most basic requirements, it still can’t account for individual differences in taste. His subscribers obviously shared the same beliefs, but that doesn’t mean what he said was true of all men. Just that he had 1.5 million people who ag…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 06:30 PM
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I can see where you’re coming from, but I can also see where these women are coming from and I don’t think they’re as delusional as Kevin made them seem. In the spirit of being fair, if a man can disqualify a woman based on her looks then a woman can disqualify a man based on his education. It’s not a dealbreaker for me personally, but I think the quality of life factor I mentioned earlier perfectly encapsulates the mindsets of these women. Women don’t get these degrees to “raise their value” in…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 03:38 PM
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There’s definitely some truth to that, and if he had just stuck to this message in a neutral tone then I’m sure he wouldn’t have gotten so much hate when he was alive. Kevin’s strategy involved debasing these aspects of “modern woman hood” for his fan base’s enjoyment without providing any context to understand these women in the first place. In this way, Kevin’s scolding of these women was very short-sighted. Everyone knows that looks play a role in attraction, but the likelihood of getting mar…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/22 12:31 PM
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18:00
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 04:07 AM
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I’ll never forget when those girls on his show flamed him and called him a scammer for his Instagram profile lol.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 01:54 AM
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Why exactly are you here friend? It would seem as though you’re not actually here to learn but push the same 5 links and harass anyone who contradicts your beliefs. Given your repetitive post history (this is the most replies you’ve ever gotten on one of your probing questions) I can’t imagine that you actually want to change, just receive more fuel to feed your confirmation bias. I can’t help by be wary of your intentions.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 04:14 PM
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Because it’s not love that they’re confessing. It’s a warped, hyperbolic cocktail of emotions that are usually just masking sexual attraction. You’re giving these men the benefit of the doubt because you see yourself in them. But when you peel back the layers and actually listen to what comes out of their mouths you would realize their feelings aren’t actually genuine. And even if it was, why would she date a man who’s capable of lying to her for months or years on end? It’s not romantic when a …
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 03:54 PM
2

Go ahead and log off for me sweetie
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 04:04 AM
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He’s giving major r/niceguys vibes lol
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:54 AM
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It’s defeatist to try and put a nice bow on something as diverse and complex as as 3.8 billion people.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:49 AM
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I think you should take your own advice and review your own thread.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:40 AM
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How is me not wanting to date my friends dating up? Are you saying that any male who is not her friend (and therefore outside the realm of familiarity) automatically ranks higher in SMV? Or are you insisting that she only friend-zoning men who aren’t attractive enough to date? You are assuming that if a woman has options she is automatically going for the top 10% when in all likelihood she’s probably going for a guy similar to her in looks who she’s also attracted to. Most men don’t have female …
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:39 AM
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If your argument is that most men find most women attractive, and that most men would fuck their female friends, then it would appear that men are choosing their female friends based on who they would want to fuck. Not vice versa. Like I said, men have a lower threshold for sexual attraction because of their sex drives. Women have to be pickier since we carry more risk with casual sex.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:19 AM
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Someone wanting to be your friend does not automatically mean that they secretly like you—We learned this back in third grade. In the same way, someone feeling safe around you does not automatically mean they find you attractive. Hypergamy is the concept of dating up. What does a woman only dating people she likes have to do with her not liking her guy friends?
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:11 AM
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What is it with you and this belief that women should be attracted to the men they feel safe around? You seem to have this belief that women only become friends with men they would date, so rejecting these men is a proof that women actually find all men disgusting. This is Simone Biles-levels of mental gymnastics.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/22 12:02 AM
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Simple: Women can find you attractive and not want to date you. I don’t seek out male friends I find attractive, they choose me. Me allowing them into my life does not mean that I think we’re suitable to date. We’re also much less vocal than men about our attraction because many guys are desperate enough to believe any kindness is a sign that they want you. So you can’t be sure at any given time how many men a woman actually finds attractive. The common explanation here is that women are not mor…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 11:58 PM
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I’m pretty sure if you went back over those same threads and actually looked past your bitterness you would see more of the same.
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 10:21 PM
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You are conflating the two. You are imagining a perfect scenario (probably because it’s one you’d like to find yourself in one day) in which a man can shoot his shot respectfully towards a female acquaintance and she is more inclined to accept his advances since she has deemed him safe and attractive enough to befriend. But someone lying to you for months about their intentions doesn’t make them safe.
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 09:57 PM
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I brought that up because you’re conveniently ignoring the other issues women face when it comes to dating, like safety. You can’t make a broad claim like “women have it easier in dating” and only mention the parts you’re envious of. So no, it’s very on par with the topic at hand. You’re the one who went off on a tangent about DV and being smaller than other men like that means something to us. I’m merely mimicking your exact words back at you so you know how ridiculous you sound. The problem is…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 09:31 PM
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The fact that “trivial” threads get upvoted shows that women have common shitty experiences, not that dating is easier. You’re viewing this too hard from your own perspective. You view these types of posts from the lens of what you lack, attention. So when you see other people complaining about it you assume it must be a great problem to have. That’s very short-sighted of you. You’re hearing what you want to hear and ignoring all the evidence that suggests what these women are going through isn’…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 09:17 PM
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Many guys claim they want a relationship but only want sex. Why else do you think these same guys get angry when they’re turned down or make jokes about using the girls bc as an excuse to c*m in her (seriously did you not read these examples yourself?). These girls talk about feeling “verbally violated”, stalked, harassed, and betrayed by their so called “friends” and you think they should feel lucky. These men became friends with them under false pretenses and are surprised when the women won’t…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 08:56 PM
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But you're ignoring all of this and thinking "if I were in that position, I'd love it!" That’s exactly what he’s doing. He’s projecting this fantasy of what life is like as a woman onto actual women’s experiences which are detailing the exact opposite. He’s so fixated on what he lacks in his life (sex and intimacy) that he’s ignoring the things he’d be giving up if he were to actually switch places with women like safety, individuality, and genuine sexual fulfillment (because sex as a woman make…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 08:04 PM
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Ah yes, the old “if women can get sex then what else is there really to complain about” argument lol. I follow female dominated subreddits too and every day I see posts dedicated to abortion, SA, abuse, and bodily autonomy. I can’t open my phone anymore without being bombarded with handsmaids tale-style laws that make me fear for my future. I just made the decision this week to not have kids out of fear of being locked up for having a miscarriage or losing them to a school shooter. I’ve been mak…
/r/ExRedPill25/05/22 07:17 PM
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I agree, which is why I didn’t say it was ok. There needs to be better understanding on both sides. Telling someone to just “act like a woman” without providing a healthy, stable environment conducive to raising ladies is just as unhelpful as telling someone to just “man up” in the absence of positive male role models. I don’t think anyone actually believes that you shouldn’t be able to reject women based on your physical preferences. And income by itself is a valuable quality of life indicator …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 06:23 PM
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Well then that’s entirely different. Simple: Punching up vs punching down. I’m not condoning it, but one group has even less power than the other. There’s also a major lack of understanding on both parts. Men want women to “act like women” but don’t provide them with the conditions to feel safe enough to let their guard down. I can’t be “fit, feminine, and friendly” if I live in a rough neighborhood with limited food options where kindness is mistaken for weakness. I believe the women who make t…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 04:35 PM
1

I think more women feel the way Kevin Samuels callers feel than you are letting on This is what I mean. I want you to explain this.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 04:27 PM
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I’m not here to argue, I read your entire OP because I wanted to understand your perspective. I just want you to answer my question on why you think most women are like this. Where did you get this idea from? It didn’t come from nowhere and it’s affecting your ability to see things transparently.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 01:21 PM
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You are ok with defending and even propagating his message long after his death because of the hurt you experienced from some women in your past. Even though women like me who don’t feel the way he described are being attacked using the same talking points, your excuse for why it should continue is because women need to address their sins so to speak. You are indirectly contributing to the misogynoir in our community by defending your “right” to rail against the 1%.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 01:19 PM
1

I’m both impressed and concerned by this lol
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 12:27 PM
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I want to feel the same about Kevin Samuels that the majority of people in the community feel but when I hear women reduce men to a paycheck it hard not to feel like okay that's fine what's your "height weight dress size" and feel retributive justice deep down. I’m really glad you admitted this because I think this is the real problem a lot of his followers have. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having those relationship dynamics between adults who agree to these parameters early on. Bu…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 11:58 AM
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I think more women feel the way Kevin Samuels callers feel than you are letting on Based on what? Kevin Samuels, The Roommates, F&F all had a major selection bias when it came to the women they allowed on their show. If you want to take his show and the experiences from your personal life as proof that AWALT then that just says more about you than them.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 11:52 AM
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TheRedPill is a quarantined community on Reddit, but it basically has everything I’ve mentioned and worse.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 06:21 PM
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Good for you 👍
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 03:18 PM
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There’s definitely different factions of the manosphere. Each comes with their own grievances specific to their unique struggles as POC in predominantly white, western countries. They mostly focus on battling stereotypes and “ascending” to the level of being able to date all women. I see a lot of POC creators that focus on gaining proximity to whiteness, specifically white girls, and “mogging” white men. There’s lots of tips and tricks for how to get them (like there’s some sort of instruction m…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 03:12 PM
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Given the divorce rate being so bonked, women initiating most of them and money related issues being ranked around 5th place, I'm not sure how true that is. People divorce for a bunch of reasons nowadays. It could just be that women today are less likely to stick around in unfulfilling unions than women in previous decades. Money is an issue for everyone. I’m not sure how you could draw the conclusion that women’s high standards are what’s ruining these marriages based off this data alone.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 03:02 PM
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Made up as in arbitrary, like not kissing until the third date or whatever. If you spend enough time in femcel spaces you’ll hear this “rule” a lot, but most women don’t have such high expectations for the men in this economy/todays society. It’s much more reciprocal now.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/22 01:59 PM
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That's why I suggested posting nudes online because it's a safer space where women are more comfortable to express themselves without ruining their reputation in the process. Somewhere anonymous where they can fuck the status quo Lol, no dude, this is not how the world works. This would be great in your mind because you don’t see the other side of things. There’s a reason most women on here don’t even use their faces in their PFP. It’s the same reason women don’t randomly compliment men in the s…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 08:19 PM
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What about sexual validation instead of just compliments. Sigh, this right here is going to be hard for you to hear because I think you’re committed to the individualistic narrative. There are some hard truths out there and one of them is that this type of open, explicit interest from women is quite rare. There are certain settings that may help facilitate it, like maybe drunk girls in a bar, but for the most part it’s not something women dish out readily because of society’s expectations. A wom…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 07:40 PM
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You’re not going to like the answer because it’s just too simple, but here it is: Be yourself and be nice. Seriously, these are the best things you can do to improve your odds of receiving genuine, authentic compliments. Men who are comfortable in themselves and make others feel comfortable are widely considered to be worthy of praise. But be warned, these things are also the bare minimum, so most people don’t feel the need to go out of their way to compliment you on this. It also depends on the…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 07:03 PM
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Introduce ideas to who? Society? We’re all aware of how unequal dating dynamics are. I doubt there’s anything you could add that would really shift the paradigm for good. Also can you just reassure me that not all women are like this? Of course, AWALT is a gross oversimplification of the truth. I for one love making the first move sometimes, and the guys I approach think it’s hot. The reason people are generalizing is because it’s still not very common and they don’t want you to get your hopes u…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 06:46 PM
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Lol, women don’t make you do anything. That’s just an excuse incels tell each other to validate each other’s victim complexes. Have some accountability, there’s more than enough to go around.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 06:32 PM
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This kind of circles back to the “nature” argument that others were making. It’s not like these societal expectations occur in a vacuum. They’re the products of thousands of years of social conditioning and gendered expectations. They can’t be easily overcome by just telling women to approach more. Shit, racism as a modern concept had only been around for about 600 years and many experts believe we will never be rid of it. You can’t expect the world we live in, the world we are all products of, …
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 06:26 PM
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What a lame excuse for bad behavior. “They didn’t give me what I wanted so I had to hurt them”. You sound like a supreme gentleman 👌🏾.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 06:20 PM
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Part of the reason why women don’t compliment men more is because we know it will be taken as flirting. Unfortunately, because receiving compliments is so rare for men they instantly assume getting one is an indicator of interest, which causes some men to act like creeps and in turn discourages women from putting themselves out there. It’s a viscous cycle.
/r/ExRedPill19/05/22 06:07 PM
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Please for the love of God don’t ever call yourself a high value male again unless you’re being facetious lol. It’s good to be confident in yourself and your abilities to attract people, but this term in particular reinforces the baseless dating hierarchy that made you feel miserable in the first place. Having a SO is not like entering into a new reality or ascending to a new level in life. It’s just your life, meaning whatever is currently going on with you, plus having to deal with the emotion…
/r/ExRedPill18/05/22 12:41 AM
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He was just as hard on the men he got to talk to when he got the chance to do so the way he did women. But evidently, no one cares about that. The men weren’t spared, but KS didn’t really became popular until he started humiliating the women on his show. That’s where most of his superchats came from. That’s where most of his views went. He did what his largely male fan base wanted, and what they wanted was to see him destroy delusional “modern” women. So it’s not that nobody cared about the men,…
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 11:45 PM
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Not one statement shows that women have to take accountability for anything that happens in their lives. If you got that from my message you are seriously one-track minded. I listed the typical gripes Kevin Samuels fans have against dating which typically includes excuses for men and blames “female nature” alone (kind of like you’re doing right now). This in no way absolves the women of any responsibility to be/find good partners or make good decisions. But life choices don’t happen in a vacuum.…
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 02:43 PM
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Even if you are divorcing for good reasons, why are you all so bad at picking spouses that half of you will end up divorcing? Divorces are filed for many reasons, this just absolves men of any responsibility to be good partners. He’s selling a narrative to the men who felt passed over. It’s not that they were both bad for each other, it’s that the man was always bad and you women don’t know how to choose (/s). You ignore the “good men” for the thugs and the criminals when the nerdy guys you laug…
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 01:19 AM
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Jesus those comments are black hole 🕳
/r/ExRedPill11/05/22 09:37 PM
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You’re using logic where there is none. The people who are die-hard Kevin Samuels fans to this day won’t suddenly wake up now that he’s gone. His death will not discourage them, he will merely ascend to godfather status in their eyes. They were with him when he was alive and defended him aggressively against all valid criticism, they’ll probably defend him even harder now. He basically inspired a new style of RP content on YouTube, his lore will continue to live on through every copycat channel …
/r/ExRedPill11/05/22 09:30 PM
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Nobody lives an easy life. Get that out of your head. Just because somebody has something you don’t doesn’t make them superior to you. Dating isn’t about women deciding who “deserves” love and affection. It’s a trial and error process much like what you’re going through now. This whole sentiment of “you can’t even approach women anymore without being a creep” is just an excuse. There are plenty of scenarios when it’s acceptable to approach women. You just fear rejection and use these social rule…
/r/ExRedPill11/05/22 05:31 PM
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Hood rich
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 04:22 AM
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His message was geared towards a certain group but that group happens to be LARGE. Based on what? He had a major selection his when it comes to the people he had on his show. Taking the girls on his show at face value representatives for what the majority of women want is just illogical. Nothing you said discredits the fact that his points are valid for so many men and women. Of course some of the stuff he said would apply to some people, but that doesn’t make them facts. The problem with Kevin …
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 03:53 AM
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Prove it
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 03:13 AM
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I actually wrote a paper on immigrant health for my program. The whole thing is quite fascinating, but it definitely varies from culture to culture. And same.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 07:52 PM
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Sexism is still a very relevant problem in Nigeria. That doesn’t change when they immigrate here. Look at any of the Asian subs and you’ll find women saying the same thing. Guys on the Asian Masculinity sub even explained to me the reason many of their women date out is because the gendered expectations of their culture puts them in a subservient position to their husbands family. There’s a deeply routed presence of misogyny across all cultures. We shouldn’t romanticize these other groups. We se…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 07:28 PM
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He’s a poor man’s version of a rich man.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 05:07 PM
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But that doesn’t make us different entities. Within every race there is a struggle for power and control between men and women. We’re more alike than different. Our fates are directly intertwined with one another because of our past unique circumstances.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:48 PM
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But anyway the truth is that he did bring attention to the fact that in no other culture or racial group are the men and women different entities. What do you mean different entities?
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:36 PM
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The problem with his perspective is that he only ever show cased a few types of women. The gold digging “superficial so-called baddies” and single moms of 3 kids by eleventy-thousand baby daddies. Then used them as an example of AWALT “modern women”. He lambasted women for seeking wealth, but when they say they’ve learned their lesson and are trying to make better decisions for their future he tells them they’re too late and have run out of time. If women seek financial security they’re gold dig…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:03 PM
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You can't criticize him for not helping the Black community when 1. It was never his intent to help the "community" and 2. You never helped the community yourself This is a dumpster fire of a take. It’s like saying “he may have poured gasoline on the fire, but you can’t accuse him of not helping because he never said that’s what he was doing”. The man was a massive contributor to the culture war between black men and black women on YouTube. He used things like phrenology and other outdated forms…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 02:32 PM
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That’s not the point. The goal is to get you thinking about how you would live your life differently if you weren’t obsessing over your virginity every single day. And for the record, you can wait that long because you’ve gone your entire life without it this far. Sex is a desire, not a necessity. It fills an emotional need, but right now yours are too great. There are steps you could be taking to remove those barriers but you’re not. Instead, you fish for compliments on Reddit, ignore any advic…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 12:04 PM
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What would you do if you knew for a fact that you’d spend the next five years a virgin but you’re guaranteed sex after that?
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:57 AM
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Your whole idea of normalcy is skewed due to your depression and BPD. I wouldn’t trust you to be objective on anything.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:17 AM
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Nobody gets this in real life. That’s what I’m trying to get you to understand. Most men go years in between compliments. You’re lucky, you post yourself frequently enough to hear them at least once a week. This idea you have about the lives attractive people live isn’t realistic. You wouldn’t take compliments well in real life anyway since you seem to “have all the answers” as well.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 02:44 AM
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My body is gross looking, like a grasshopper, which maybe is why I've never got compliments by people. This is a flat out lie. People compliment you on here all the time. You just never listen. Well I have so many flaws 😆. Normal people don't have this many body, skin issues. Yes they do. You’ve just never bothered to ask them. I can promise you, no one cares enough about you to meticulously critique your whole body. Strangers do not care this much.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 01:46 AM
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You seem to think you need to be perfect to get sex. But your definition of perfect changes every week. At this rate you’ll never be happy, and at this point I don’t think you actually want to.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 09:48 PM
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Their attitudes towards women and life and general are very mechanical. They view every human interaction as an exchange of goods and they’re always striving to prove themselves useful.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 11:49 PM
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He doesn’t want facts, if he did he’d listen to the women here. He thinks he knows “the truth”, everyone else is just lying to him.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 06:02 PM
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Height is not usually the first thing I see. I only bother asking if the person is freakishly tall and it’s the first thing I notice. It’s more about how they make me feel. Any guy who can give me butterflies is just a guy in my eyes, height is irrelevant.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/22 05:56 PM
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Yes but I’m asking for specific examples. I see what you’re talking about in general, but I also see people try to understand TRP perspective before giving advice.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/22 04:31 AM
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Can you do me a favor and link some of those comments? As someone else in the thread here said, I hear this complaint a lot but they never provide any examples. I frequent this sub a lot and there’s never any shortage of people who are coming from a place of understanding at first before they get more confrontational with their views.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:55 PM
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No, I don’t. We’ve all had negative experiences with the opposite sex, but I don’t discount the words of millions of people just because they happen to share the same gender as the people who hurt me. It doesn’t sound like he understands anything about women either, so he’s in no position to be speaking on our behalf.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 08:52 PM
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This sub was never about making women feel good. That was your mistake. It was about helping young men see the flaws in their way of thinking. Women who’ve been affected by men like this just happen to flock here to share their perspectives, which of course aren’t usually flattering.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/22 05:24 PM
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Hey friend, it’s me again. So this is a topic I see is really personal to you and I have empathy for that. However, people here have told you multiple times that sexual attraction is not one dimensional no matter how many times you try to convince yourself it is. You are a nice looking dude. People compliment you every time you post a pic. They tell you you’re good looking, that you have nice eyes, and that you’d have potential if you just worked on your outlook. So knowing this, even if you don…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/22 03:02 PM
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This guy does a really good job of breaking modern male dating struggles. It really opened my eyes. A lot of men lack proper instructions in dating. We use general platitudes like “be confident, be yourself, don’t be a creep” without giving them the proper tools or context to apply these things. And while most people can see these RPs for what they are (cringe), for a lot of guys there are no other options. They offer a step-by-step guide for success. There’s comfort in knowing what your chances…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/22 05:22 PM
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You need to remove the word “all” from your vocabulary. Women are not a monolith. If this new wave of Korean boy bands has taught us anything it’s that women view masculinity very differently than men. Men think of masculinity in its most basic form. You must look the part of an alpha male and assert your dominance by ruling over others to communicate to females you have the “superior genes”. Women don’t usually see things this way. I hear more guys complaining about girls wanting tall, masculin…
/r/ExRedPill25/04/22 05:06 PM
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Sure dude. I hope Kevin helps you get all the buns lol.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/22 04:12 AM
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I think his core argument is that many women overvalue themselves and think they are entitled to the top ×% of men leading them to be single. My issue is with the tone that he takes. It’s not enough for him to just explain why they’re single, he actually goes as far as shaming single women for having any preferences at all. It’s all a part of his pattern. 1) He tells women that their sole focus in life should be acquiring a man or else their lives will become meaningless. 2) He challenges the fe…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 06:58 PM
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there should be a discussion about HOW to come to this conclusion We’ve already had this discussion…several times. Go through his post history. Me and him have a rapport on here. He will tell you I’ve dedicated hours to carefully deconstructing every single one of his talking points and trying to assuage his insecurities. Don’t take this one comment out of context and try to say I’m attacking him. I’m not about to keep having these in depth conversations under every post he makes, because believ…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 06:11 PM
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It must be so peaceful not having to come up with any original thoughts. I envy you. If you thought this sub would tolerate your RP bullshit then you obviously can’t read. It’s EXredpill, not r/purplepilldebate. My guess is you found this post by searching Kevin Samuels’ name, looking to attack any of his critics (as y’all do), and didn’t even bother to read what it was actually about. Doesn’t it get exhausting parroting these same played out talking points again and again? But I guess you’re ju…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 04:44 PM
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Then it sounds like what they really have in common are their unrealistic expectations. Because if you admit that the educated ones act the same as the uneducated ones, isn’t that proof that it’s their mindset that’s holding them back and not their degrees? But Kevin doesn’t present things this way. When people say fake they don’t just mean the callers are paid actors. They’re referring to the way Kevin manipulates his followers into believing that women like this represent the majority. I don’t…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 04:42 PM
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By “how they actually are” do you mean the select group of women desperate enough to call into his show? If so, then yeah I totally agree. Those women need a reality check.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 04:02 PM
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Trashiness is a state of mind, college educated women can definitely be trashy. Anybody can be trashy. But instead of acknowledging this, He uses carefully selected examples of “modern women” behaving badly to push the idea that educated women are especially debased. If someone only interviews trashy women with degrees, then it takes a simple minded person to assume that most women with degrees are trashy. The Kevin Samuels fan base is unique in that they are fiercely loyal to a fault. They’re c…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 03:31 PM
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I think there’s a major selection bias with the people he chooses have on his show that leads viewers to believe AWALT. He has an agenda to push, a narrative that’s easy to detect by the way he titles his videos: Modern woman bad. Specifically the black modern woman. He uses inflammatory language to keep his viewers entertained, but most importantly angry. Angry at the world and angry at women and their standards. This is why his male audience keeps coming back. He gives them reasons to be upset…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 03:09 PM
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One of the problems with cold approaching is that from the others perspective your motives seem entirely superficial. Think about it. We’re at a bar, not an event where we’re all here because we have something common. Just a casual environment used to escape from whatever’s going on in your life. So when you do get approached, you know their interest can’t possibly be based on true compatibility (outside of maybe basic visual observations like drink choice). So any interaction we have after that…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 02:41 PM
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Great. And to add to that, put “stop making excuses” near the top of the list. It will make everything else much easier.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 04:32 PM
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This is just pitiful. You can’t defend your arguments yourself so you expect some random youtuber to do it instead of actively deconstructing your own narrative. Do you want to change or not?
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 04:16 PM
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women dont feel the same way so my face isn’t good enough for them Nobody has said that. This is all in your head.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 04:09 PM
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So it’s not about with women inflated egos then. This is about you talking yourself out of even trying because you assume they’ll reject you first. And again, that’s a YOU problem. Not anyone elses.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 03:37 PM
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Did they tell you that’s why they rejected you? Did they deadass say to your face “sorry I only date 6’6 roided-out Chads with 8 inch cocks”? We both know the answer to that is no.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 03:09 PM
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Based on what? Your feelings? What data do you have to support this? You just said the apps aren’t reliable predictors if interest.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 03:05 PM
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Women don’t accidentally end up with bad boys. They see the bad boy as a confident, good looking, masculine, dominant man and choose him over unattractive, low testosterone soy boys. Lol no. You literally just said you can’t tell who’s good. So how would a woman know that confidence and good looks are red flags? You even encouraged women to pursue men for their looks (“You have to choose a guy you are attracted to”). Video on the options a extremely unattractive woman has. We’ve already been ove…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 02:57 PM
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Dude, you’ve literally given us zero answers for how to determine who’s good. Being willing to wait for sex doesn’t make you decent, just patient. You incels are always going on about bad boys like women should be able to discern good men from bad ones on site. Like they all have giant flashing red lights attached to their heads. Guess what, if you wait months for sex just to pump n’ dump you’re still a bad guy. And there’s no way a woman can predict this. Show me the study that says thousands o…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 12:18 PM
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Aww is not having any getting to you? Maybe it’s a blessing in disguise.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 11:49 AM
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Why keep trying when I am destined to fail because of my genetics. Insufficient input. Try again. It would be an insult to women if I tried. You are the only one saying this. Let that sink in. They dont want anything to do with me and I dont blame them. Insufficient input. Try again. The only advantage I have in my life is that I am still young otherwise I have no advantage. I am just an average looking man who exists to do a 9 to 5 job to keep someone rich. Lol this is a just a joke. A black re…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 10:52 PM
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Grab your phone, go on the app store, search bumble, instagram and plenty of fish. Take some good photos post them on all 3 sites. Let the matches come in and there will be a lot. This was your first mistake. Dating apps are quick and convenient but they also attract the lowest common denominator of individuals. You can present yourself to be whatever you want online. Anybody can have access to you on social media, which includes those who want to physically harm you. Hardly a perk. If any guy s…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 10:38 PM
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I have tried. 10 is too small of a sample size to reach the conclusion you’re hopeless. Try again. Doing nothing gets you no closer to where you want to be. I never notice women checking me out. Insufficient evidence try again I have never been hit on. Men say this all the time but most don’t realize how subtly it happens a lot. Id feel like the game would be incredibly rigged. Do you feel this way about other things you have no control over? Like the race, class, or country you were born into? …
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 10:18 PM
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they dont want me How do you know this for sure unless you try? my confidence crumbles as soon as a better man is around Again this sounds like a YOU issue, it has nothing to do with the woman’s rejection. If you take yourself out of the game prematurely then don’t bitch about never winning a game.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 10:02 PM
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I’m genuinely curious, what do you think that process involves? Give me a step by step guide to finding a “decent” man.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 10:00 PM
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You seem really confident for a guy who admittedly does very poorly with the ladies. Don’t you think you’re a bit out of your element here? What metric are you using to determine what’s normal? Because nothing you said is an objective fact, just your opinions mixed with black pill theories. You’re appealing to the extremes. You take a hyperbolic approach to describing masculinity and assume that’s the outcome that appeals to the average woman. That’s a logical fallacy. The truth is you’d rather …
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 09:51 PM
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So how is that a bonus? How many waves of dudes will she have to filter through to find one decent one? You think drowning in dick means as much to women as drowning in pussy does for men. In reality, most women hate being on dating apps for this very reason.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 07:38 PM
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Nobody here knows you. I don’t care enough about you to lie even if it would save your feelings. I’m only commenting because the attitude you preach hurts us in the real world. The truth is everything you’ve been told about women is pseudoscientific bullshit perpetuated by miserable men like yourself for the purposes of self preservation. You want an excuse to never try and the RP gives you a perfect one. It tells you your future was determined at birth and that you just weren’t designed to have…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 07:27 PM
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He can’t fathom the idea that not every woman wants to sleep with whatever guy comes her way because to him casual sex is the epitome of everything.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 06:39 PM
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What’s absurd is your insistence that you have all the answers without being open to new information. That’s what makes your claims ridiculous. It’s like a flat earther saying he 100% knows the earth is flat because the horizon isn’t round. You can only use your personal experiences with a topic to a certain extent, after that you must leave it to the experts. Women are literally telling you that attraction can’t be reduced to measurements and stats, but you’re either too dumb or too arrogant to…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/22 06:35 PM
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In todays climate I would expect it.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/22 01:19 AM
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Always isn’t a word I like to use. Also, who cares? What exactly are you trying accomplish by bringing this up?
/r/ExRedPill14/04/22 11:04 AM
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That’s the thing, you can nurture the parts of yourself you want to improve. You don’t have to stay stagnant.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/22 02:23 AM
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Not really. TRP is meant to show you the reality of relationships. It presents a false reality by fabricating a universal narrative around small kernels of truth. Things like: financial security matters to women; Good looks and sexual prowess matters to, not all women, but a lot of women. This is not a RP truth. This is common knowledge among most of society. Not a hidden fact. Their mistake is attributing this to some inherent, insidious female nature instead of the natural product of culture a…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/22 12:34 AM
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These features are not innate. You are not born a social butterfly. You can work to be more open.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:58 PM
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Am a woman. Can confirm.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:54 PM
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Seriously dude. Get help.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:50 PM
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I think you might actually belong over here instead r/incelexit
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:44 PM
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Madness is temporary. Loneliness is forever. Ask your shrink.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:42 PM
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All women are like this. You don’t get my help. No sympathy remember? You wanna talk like you’re right? Fine. Be right alone.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:40 PM
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Lol, your opinion is literally AWALT. That’s the easiest argument to disprove. I just have to find one example, you must prove all 3.8 billion of us think the same thing. Good luck supporting that with tinder data.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:37 PM
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More raging RP talking points to justify your contempt for women. Again, typical. Keep that attitude and I’m sure you’ll be drowning in pussy very soon.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:28 PM
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If you could tell me why I would understand yet you couldn’t because not even my psych can. The problem is RP doesn’t actually tell you anything that would make you feel better. A psych can at least console you, but there are no solid facts to dating. This is the trap of the RP. It provides simple, short explanations for vastly complicated, intricate problems. No one can tell you why you didn’t click except you and the woman in question. There are a variety of factors in play: does she like you,…
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:17 PM
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And your legitimate experience is something I hear men on Reddit complain about every single day. The difference between you and them is they haven’t fallen into despair and bitterness because of their situations. I won’t pretend that male dating struggles like loneliness aren’t problems hiding in plain site. But no one will have sympathy for you if you hold onto such a hateful, jaded world view.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 11:04 PM
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I call that an extrapolation of evidence spurred on by your own deep-seeded insecurities. Typical. You’ve found an ideology that confirms your worst fears and you’re willing to go with it because it justifies your world view and contempt for women. Change your mindset and be amazed by the diversity of opinions and preferences that people have. The world doesn’t fit into this rigid structure that dictates how your life will go based on your attractiveness level. Welcome to life, your experiences …
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 10:57 PM
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How do you define attraction from women? Most women do not approach men they’re interested and are socially discouraged from doing so. Most guys go significant periods of time with no compliments at all. So it’s easy to assume you’re just ugly. You answer the question then. Do you really think we’re all like that?
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 10:48 PM
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Every picture you post of yourself gets positive reviews. Many of them. No mention of angles or lighting or some other sorcery. People compliment your features all the time. You can’t explain that away. A little bit honestly, lots of variance of course. So which is it? Either we’re all like this or we can have different views. It can’t be both. Obviously the girls in those photos don’t care about half of the things that you do and still find their boyfriends attractive. If you really believe thi…
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 10:09 PM
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Back again are we u/Pomeranian111? Whenever I see a post like this where a guy swears he needs to be a 10/10 Chad to be dateable I always like to browse the hashtag National Boyfriend Day on Instagram. I love seeing such a diverse group of men and boys getting loved on by their women. Male beauty standards are as rigid as female ones, but you don’t have to fit them to a T in order to be considered attractive enough to date. This excuse is used to counter any real world observations that would di…
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 08:16 PM
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Angry, bitter losers using the little bit of clout they have to prey on vulnerable men and initiate a feedback loop of negativity.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 02:08 AM
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I have not but I’ll definitely look into it. My eyesight is horrible lol.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 01:13 AM
2

Yup. Sure do. And I didn’t have to say it outright, I did exactly what you doing, tear myself down one piece at a time. You think “if I could just fix this one thing”, but that thing never goes away. You obsess over one thing and seek reassurance, then when you get it you feel like people are lying to make you feel better. So you focus on another perceived flaw and go looking for your next hit of validation. You repeat this cycle about 1000 times and but nothing anyone says ever matters. You’ll …
/r/ExRedPill12/04/22 12:43 AM
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I understand that. But every piece of advice anyone gives him has fallen on deaf ears. Myself included, look at his post history. I can speak feel-good aphorisms until I’m blue in the face but they will do nothing until he recognizes this one principle.
/r/ExRedPill11/04/22 02:31 AM
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You feel inferior to other men. Full stop. I don’t even need to read the rest of your post. THIS is your issue. Not your living situation, not your stutter, not your looks, it’s not even about the women. You have deemed yourself inferior and there’s nothing anyone here can tell you that will make you feel better. You need to get this under control before you can even begin to think about detoxing.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/22 06:28 PM
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Yeah he did. And I’m sure you do too.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/22 06:40 PM
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Nope. He was 25
/r/ExRedPill09/04/22 06:16 PM
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I lost my v-card to a dude who lived with his mom and had no door. I’d say no.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/22 02:54 PM
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I think the fact that most red pill “gurus” have to pay to even be around women and have them on their shows is enough proof to concur that the red pill doesn’t work.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/22 03:14 PM
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Because it’s a reductionist argument used by red pillers to shame women for their superficiality. Of course looks matter, and saying that some people will struggle in dating because of this is common knowledge. We just choose not to vocalize because it’s not worth dwelling on and people use it as an excuse to give up entirely (“it’s over bro”). Stating that it’s the #1 thing and that women are obsessed with it is an exaggeration. For all the proof out there that people swear by, I can spot at le…
/r/ExRedPill08/04/22 02:31 PM
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No need to apologize. I may be young, but I’m not confused. I never said young women and men go through the exact same things. My whole comment was about how unlikely it is for a young woman to want to be someone with that large of an age gap. Agree or disagree at your leisure, I don’t care. But please don’t pretend to be an expert on women or speak on my behalf.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/22 11:10 PM
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Then why do you say you lack confidence? Because you’re not confident all the time? That’s normal. If you know your worth, then why would you want to be with someone who doesn’t want you to?
/r/ExRedPill24/03/22 06:13 PM
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Has to be low maintence like me, I'm not picking up someones life for them. You realize how ironic this is right? You can’t be low maintenance with low self esteem and no desire to improve it. Your partner would be “picking up” your mess because you don’t want to maintain your own confidence. You would rather her presence validate your existence for you. If you found a girl who required you to compliment her constantly all while rejecting any compliment you attempt to give her how long do you th…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/22 06:07 PM
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Women find a lot of things attractive. What kind of woman do you want? Because the ones who seek out men like you, men with low standards, are looking to capitalize off your insecurities for their own benefit. It honestly just sounds like you resent having to maintain your self esteem in order to get a partner.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/22 05:57 PM
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Dude, you’re contradicting yourself all over the place. I don't percieve me not being charasmatic as an inadequacy, it just is what it is. I'm not that guy, I'm me *Also you two minutes later* But to answer your question I'd go either a) or b). a) because it keeps the conversation moving, and b) because it feels more laidback which is a trait I'm quite proud of in myself — It’s clearly something you already want to do Confidence is a skill, not a personality type. Your version of confidence is a…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/22 05:50 PM
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Firstly I wouldn't talk to her because I can't just go around talking to absolute strangers and don't posess they type of charisma that can make someone warm up that quickly. Dude, you literally opened up your post talking about your perceived inadequacies. Your entire OP was you bemoaning how unfair it is that women require confidence in a partner. Now you’re saying you’d have no problem applying confident conversational strategies with little experience because…? Why did you even make that ori…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/22 05:32 PM
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I don’t understand your logic. You complained about girls not liking you for these traits but you just admitted that you’d ignore their advances even if they did. You don’t want to do the approaching but you also wouldn’t talk back to anyone who approaches you. So how can you possibly win? I didn’t ask you about the odds of something like this happening, nor do I care about how often you receive compliments in real life. The challenge here was to see if you could rise to the occasion (implying c…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/22 05:19 PM
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So you’re wondering what are the tangible benefits of confidence in terms of finding a relationship. Easy. Confidence is what allows you to seek out and accept better treatment instead of settling for less. Let’s imagine a scenario. You’re sitting in a coffee shop and a nice, cute girl comes over to sit next to you. She’s just your type, and as you start talking you think shes somebody you’d actually like to see again. She compliments your eyes and asks you about the book you’re reading. Which o…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/22 07:48 PM
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I don’t attend pity parties on this sub anymore. It’s pointless. I could shower you with all the Internet praise and good boy points I have but it’d be meaningless. You won’t start to accept praise until you feel worthy of it yourself. What does that mean? It’s no one else’s job to make you feel good about being you. In this life, you’re going to spend more time in your own company than anyone else’s. So you better be damn sure you can stand your own reflection, because people can’t/won’t always…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 11:08 PM
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Detach value from sex. After that, how ever many partners they had becomes meaningless. Sex is not a currency that denotes worth and depreciates in value, it’s an activity like traveling. Everybody loves to travel, but some people can do it more often. Is a girl who flies around the world less valuable because she has more mileage? A slut is what, someone who enjoys sex with a variety of people. Why is that a bad thing? It’s something that can feel really good that goes away after 15 minutes. Af…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/22 04:07 PM
2

So judging by your reaction I guess the answer to that is no, you wouldn’t want a partner like that. Nonetheless, it’s still not ideal to seek out a relationship based on something you lack. There’s nothing wrong with wanting another virgin so both your first times are special, but there is another reason a girl may want an experienced partner. Sex for women, especially the first sexual encounter, is known for being painful and a bit traumatic. It makes sense that they might want someone who cou…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/22 11:27 PM
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Something that you need to understand is that there will always be people that you will just never have a chance with. A hard pill to swallow but the sooner you realize this the sooner you’ll stop beating yourself up about women you were never meant to have. Sure you can hang around and hope she changes her mind, but you’d just be exhausting yourself. If a woman has options, it’s ok for her to utilize them. But that doesn’t mean you’ll never be anyones first choice. This belief that success with…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/22 11:11 PM
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What makes these narratives so dangerous is that they usually contain an element of truth to them. Historically it was imperative for a woman’s survival to be married off to a man of means. As things progressed, they were barred from positions that would place them on equal footing with men. These ideas didn’t just disappear in the 70s with the Women’s Lib movement. Many women today value their autonomy while also retaining some aspects of traditionalism. Where RP makes a mistake is by framing t…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/22 10:51 PM
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Everyone has problems. They’re one injury away from being broke and losing everything. They’re forced to stay in shape because there are thousands of people below them waiting to take their place. The women they date are usually gold diggers only out to get a bag. The ones they marry usually divorce them as soon as possible and leave with half their stuff. They can’t go anywhere in public without being swarmed which eliminates all the normal conveniences you and I take for granted. Their childre…
/r/ExRedPill09/03/22 05:00 PM
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I like offering female perspectives on red pill subjects. The community in general has a very limited view of women. They think we’re only capable of carrying out genetic programming to find the best mate which is reinforced through their narrow understanding of evolutionary biology. I believe once you internalize the fact that women are complex, multifaceted individuals with a variety of different motivations and drives the easier it is to see how superficial red pill ideology is.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/22 10:58 PM
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I’m a black woman who primarily dates interracially. I find middle eastern guys to be some of the most attractive and I would definitely be open to dating one. I’d say the primary complaint I’ve heard about middle eastern guys (specifically Arab guys) is that they are pushy and possessive when dating outside their culture and “too traditional” when dating within. Unfortunately, most of the guys either I or my friends have encountered have fit this stereotype. That’s not to say that you’re “screw…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 11:20 PM
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Perhaps you’d have more success over on this sub r/incelexit
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 12:49 AM
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Are women even sexually attracted to men? Yes. Love ‘em I love the natural contrast between the male and female physique. I love their rugged manly grossness and the different ways their brains think. I love the way they walk. I love the way they smell. I love how I feel when I meet someone I have chemistry with. It’s electrifying. Like a burning feeling that starts in the pit of your stomach and spreads out across your entire body. Your brain is being flooded with endorphins and you start to pa…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 12:27 AM
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I guess the athletes, entertainers and successful business owners. Don’t idolize celebrities. They do not nor will they ever represent the average life. You will lose every time if you compare yourself to the George Clooneys of the world. Jealous of what exactly? Their money, fame, ability to attract vapid women? Every one of these fields requires work and isn’t dependent on natural abilities alone. If you think money would be the solution to all your current problems then focus on what you can …
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 04:14 PM
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Personality is a spectrum. There’s more than personality types besides just dominant vs submissive, alpha vs beta, nice guy vs bf material. Odds are, if every woman you’ve met only ever sees you as a friend, you may not have made your signals clear enough. Being afraid to make a move for fear of making things uncomfortable between you is a valiant effort to keep things cordial, but the only thing you’ve described as being a “dominant” trait is that they get more women, which is probably just sig…
/r/ExRedPill30/01/22 03:50 PM
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And what was your father? An engaged man knowingly having unprotected sex with a woman he had no intentions of raising a child with. He too should have known better. Yes, women are the gatekeepers of children in the sense that they have the final choice of whether to bring forth life. But that doesn’t preclude the circumstances women like you’re mother often find themselves in with men like your father. Like why was he willing to carry on a relationship with her for 3 months despite “allegedly” …
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:56 PM
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I get that, but how is it her job to make sure he stays? You do have a dad, he just didn’t want anything to do with you so that’s on him. It’s not the job of the woman to make sure a man fulfills his responsibilities.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:35 PM
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So how is it her fault that you don’t have a dad? Because she couldn’t make him leave his wife?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:30 PM
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I like to provide a female perspective on things. A lot of men in these spaces go their whole lives convinced that women only think one way. TRP does a good job of reinforcing that fear by telling guys that if all women are the same, and you have had bad luck with women in the past, that you have no reason to believe things will get better. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. They promise quick fixes to complicated issues that just seem to make men more miserable in the long run. I’m here to …
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:10 PM
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Exactly. These choices are not made in a vacuum. He seems to think a man abandoning his child is perfectly rational while a woman raising a child who isn’t wanted by his father is meaningless. What other group has this mindset? Only in our community is the burden of keeping a family together placed solely on the shoulders of the women. He seems to find no fault in that.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 02:38 PM
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Ask yourself, what will resenting her for this solve? It doesn’t repair your childhood. It doesn’t heal those old wounds. And it doesn’t make your dad suddenly come back into your life. So what need is it meeting? Like many young black men, it gives you an excuse to blame the entirety of your life’s problems onto a black woman while casually excusing the abandonment of a black man towards his responsibilities. You do this because you sympathize with the men and find it difficult to relate to wom…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 02:26 PM
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I think there’s a fundamental miscommunication when it comes to why some women choose to have casual sex with people they’re not in a relationship with. Sex for some people is just an act, it’s not a confirmation of your supposed skills or “SMV”. Men with high body counts typically have lower standards and will say and do anything to make that number go up. This includes surrounding themselves with women who don’t view sex as a reward for good behavior and therefore have lower standards for achi…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 09:25 PM
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The toxic culture of this space, specifically those ideas that prioritize the submission of black women over everything, is egregious. There’s nothing wrong with couples who subscribe to traditional gender roles in relationships, but the black manosphere loves to contradict itself on when they apply. They hold a man’s ability to provide financially as the only metric for being “high value” and worthy of leadership but in the same breath will say things like “my woman should respect me as the hea…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/22 04:29 AM
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I think part of that stems from the misguided belief that returning to traditional gender roles is a way to help black men get ahead. In their minds, you are vetoing the only real solution to the black community’s problems: returning strong black men to the heads of nuclear families and as leaders of the black community.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/22 04:10 AM
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This is incredibly dehumanizing. Your views of black men in this context are racist and you deserve to be called out on that. I know you mean well and are speaking from a place of insecurity, but hearing this is really disappointing and lets me know how far we have to go in the way society views black people. What you are describing is a caricature based on centuries of anti-black propaganda. Men 100 years ago with your mindset could have gotten a black man lynched due to this very fear. It’s th…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/22 03:47 AM
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Ok, you have a defeatist mindset. For every piece of advice people gave, you deemed it impossible for your situation right off the bat. You’re using extraneous examples from this sub while ignoring the context (and the women actually giving their opinions) around them that makes them unacceptable. There are plenty of women in the real world who wouldn’t mind being approached in a respectful, earnest manner. Focus on the hobbies and goals that would better your life first before you invite someon…
/r/ExRedPill04/01/22 06:05 PM
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How did you get that from his response?
/r/ExRedPill04/01/22 04:49 PM
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Do what makes you happy, because at the end of the day you’re all you have. But there’s more benefits to eating healthy than just impressing women.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 10:16 PM
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I don't think you get me. Nothing good happened from doing any of these things, non related to women. That’s because that’s not the point of doing them, to get women. You can’t control what people think, just how you react. So do it for you first of all.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 08:23 PM
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They’re not sacrifices if you’re doing them for the right reasons. You did not. Now you just sound like a petulant child who didn’t get his way. Work towards feeling comfortable with yourself before anyone else.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 07:35 PM
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Of course I'm unhappy! Meds haven't worked. Lost weight and learned the "Face becomes more attractive with low body fat" is a lie, or not a guarantee. I will sympathize with you for one thing. You made the same mistake a lot of young men make when entering the dating world. You went into RP thinking that they had definitive answers, a recipe to be happy—They don’t. There is no one way to be happy. There is no winning formula of bmi, body fat percentage, or diet that guarantees you a good life. T…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 06:41 PM
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You are talking to a black woman, living in America. You are not oppressed because you don’t get dates. You are not oppressed because no one wants to have sex with you. You don’t know the meaning of the word.All of your problems at this point have been self inflicted. The world may have caused that initial wound, but your victim mentality is what solidifies it. You put in work and got nothing out of it because you went in with the wrong mentality and did it for the wrong reasons. You do the work…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 06:20 PM
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The United States is not the epicenter of the world. If you want to know the opinions of black people you should probably go where the number of black people are highest. You’ve yet to answer any of my points. All you’ve done is deflect and act like you’re the exception to the rule when you’re not. You’re not the main character. You’re not so special that you’re the one man in the world destined to be alone forever. You’re an average white man in a world where average white men rule. You have av…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 05:40 PM
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No, if your logic is that that everyone wants a black guy, and you use girls on dating apps advertising that as proof, then white men would have no chance. You’d be seeing average black men with armfuls of snow bunnies, not just one. But why stop there? Why were there no black men in the top posts of the month on r/ladyboners? Why do girls on Twitter have an obsession with every basic white boy on #whiteboywednesday? How many black men have you seen on The Bachelor? Why are skin bleaching produc…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 04:50 PM
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Dude I just went over to that sub and like 98% of the dudes posted there were ripped. In the first twenty posts I saw about 5 blondes and 5 blue-eyed guys. You’re delusional.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 04:30 PM
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Except you don’t see it “all the time”. If they were really that attractive then white men there would have no chance.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 04:28 PM
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Does having this random collection of physical traits mean you’re destined to have a good life? This is what I’ve never understood about any pill. You see a problem, examine it at face value, take any number of traits and assign them a meaning and boom, you’ve “figured it out”. It’s so easy give up and use the excuse that you “just weren’t meant to be happy” instead of actually taking the time and doing the work that gets you there. Do better please.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/21 04:37 AM
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He looks like my cousin who’s on his second wife. The first didn’t want to have any more kids. He now has 6 he can barely afford.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/21 09:52 PM
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It could be construed that way, if you take it literally. Hyperbolic speech aside, he feels accomplished when he attempts a heavy lift. That should be the feelings he focuses on. TRP treats self-improvement as a magic pill that will fix all your problems, and they sound convincing because within that there’s a nugget of truth. Confidence can have a positive affect on your life in so many ways.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 08:50 PM
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Plenty of people find exercise therapeutic. It’s seems to me like once you get a good pump going you feel like you’re unstoppable. That’s a great mindset to have for anything. Lifting teaches us the lessons of patience, endurance, and consistency. Try focusing on these virtues the next time you’re in the gym, only this time think about how good it would make you feel to keep improving your physique. Apply these values to other areas of your life; find that dream job, start that hobby you’ve been…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 06:11 AM
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If it’s by Mahogany Pink I’ve seen it already ten times over :) Yeah his intentions are far more malicious than they appear. Nothing he said should be taken at a surface level.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 02:33 AM
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I think this stuff only becomes toxic once you internalize those rejections and start looking for external reasons to explain away your pain. The dating app game is a crapshoot for most, and that’s not unique to America. It gives people a reason to be more forthcoming about their superficiality because all they have to judge you by is your picture. I’d say American women are just more upfront about these things. Out if curiosity, I changed my location to countries such as Brazil, Columbia, Phili…
/r/ExRedPill23/12/21 01:41 AM
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I used to watch Kevin Samuels, this was before his recent hate crusade against women/BW, but something he said one day really soured my view of him permanently and I haven’t looked back sense. He was counseling a young woman who had called into the show and asked for advice. She was early twenties, freshly divorced (I believe it was a DV situation), and with a one year old kid. She had been beaten and abused by men her entire life. Finding rich men for her was seen as a way out of her chaotic ho…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/21 08:43 PM
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That’s where you’re wrong my guy, women love romantic men! I understand that you’re depressed and looking for a way to put words to your insecurities but the black pill wasn’t “made” for you the way you think it was, it just happened to be there ready to accept you at your lowest. They offered you a place to revel in your pity, to be alone with your negative thoughts, and feel validated for them as opposed to challenging them. But it’s parasitic nature makes it feel almost impossible to enter th…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/21 01:52 AM
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Why do you care what she thinks? Do you want to date your aunt? Stop referring to yourself as a manlet, you are a human being. Stop assuming any woman who gets with you is just settling, if you think you’re rock bottom then you’ve already hit it. I think you belong over there on r/incelexit
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 06:17 PM
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Dude, he’s not listening to anyone. He’s hears what he wants to hear and just keeps repeating himself. He’s not ready to detox.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 06:10 PM
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Then don’t focus on the stories that make you miserable. Look, I would give you more examples but you are choosing to only focus on the ones that confirm your biases. You have no self respect, you’re incapable of accepting other’s opinions, and you refuse to address your gripe against women. You will end up alone not because you’re not a masculine tough guy, but because you’re a whiny little boy who talks himself out of even trying. So if you end up miserable, it will literally be all your fault…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 05:15 PM
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I think your judgment is clouded by your own personal experiences during your time in TRP. You know your motivations and probably saw a lot of guys just like you misguidedly following people you thought had all the answers. I can see why you’d want to help them instead of shame them for their behavior, which I’m all for actually. But there are other channels that do a better job of it, it’s just a shame they don’t get as many views as the ones coming from a place of understanding.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 03:51 PM
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Sorry, I only date roided-out Chads with anger issues and commitment phobias. Better luck next life 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 03:28 AM
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But are they really powerless? I’d say reaction channels and RP/PUA channels are on about the same level in terms of their influence. Obviously no one should be making fun of peoples looks, but let’s not pretend that TRP creators aren’t shallow af and eager to resort to personal attacks. They literally encourage their followers to judge women based solely on their physical appearance and then discard them like trash when they hit “the wall”. People like that only elicit so much empathy from me. …
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 03:15 AM
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Dude I think you’re in the wrong sub. Maybe try r/incelexit
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 03:09 AM
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Lol where did I say I was owed a relationship? I think you’re projecting.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/21 03:09 AM
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Entitled: believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. Respect and dignity are not privileges. They’re the bare fucking minimum. Insisting that I deserve none of those things because feminism says we’re all equal is asinine. There I fixed it for you.
/r/ExRedPill05/12/21 10:55 PM
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Kurtis is more of a reaction channel. He’s not trying to teach young men how to date. His job is to entertain, give his opinion and try to get a laugh or two along the way. Getting upset at him for not providing a more nuanced and balanced approach to the red pill is like getting mad at SNL for not fact checking their jokes. There are other content creators who do a better job of trying to understand the mindsets of young men who turn to TRP, channels like Exposing the Manosphere come to mind, b…
/r/ExRedPill05/12/21 05:46 PM
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That you need to focus on improving yourself and your situation in life. That you can't be a subservient whiny bitch That if you go through life and focus on being a High quality competent human you will attract many women. That women do indeed tend to gravitate towards men who show strength of character and aren't easily swayed by the opinions of others. These aren’t red pill truths though. These are general quality of life observations you could find in the most basic of self help books. The o…
/r/ExRedPill05/12/21 05:14 PM
1

A bunch of her subscribers said they’d report him to the FBI for making death threats but I don’t know what became of that.
/r/ExRedPill04/12/21 02:43 AM
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I discovered TRP by accident and have since turned my study of the manosphere into a personal hobby. The way that these factions developed around gender roles and race and shifting attitudes towards sex culture is all very alluring to me. Having been on the side of the hopeless, depressed, and “forever alone” crowd, I understand where a lot of their mindset comes from. Deep seeded feelings of inferiority, fears of being left behind, feeling like your life won’t really start until you meet that s…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 06:33 PM
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You’re the one literally writing a book about it in these comments lol 😂
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 01:38 AM
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Put your “observations” in a peer reviewed journal and then maybe I’d listen.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 01:37 AM
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Yeah, but any emotional connection is tied to appearance or the strength of physical attraction. Spoken like a man who’s never experienced a loving relationship before lol. Look dude, I’m a woman and what I’m telling you is the truth, my truth. I don’t care how many RP dating coaches you watched, books you’ve read, or how low your body fat percentage is, you don’t know as much about “female nature” as you think you do.
/r/ExRedPill02/12/21 01:29 AM
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It’s hardly that concrete. Many women would prefer to have a short term encounter with a man who makes them feel special, even if they may not be the total package in looks. This is because even if the encounter is short, many women want some level of connection to their partner. It can be hard to totally detach yourself from your emotions and just think of a partner as a means for sex.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/21 04:19 PM
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Because logic and reason has no affect on an argument not based on logic and reason. You’re so focused on the handful of women who want what you lack that you’re ignoring any woman here who says those things don’t matter to her. You want to be miserable no matter how many times you complain about “not wanting to feel this way” because you are using circular reasoning to shoot down any new input. All you can do is say “but but in high school…but this one girl in college…but this article I read on…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 05:44 PM
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And you care why? Oh right because you don’t have them, and that makes you feel insecure because you also associate them with traditional masculinity which you feel you lack. You reek of insecurity and incel rage. Why else would you be so obsessed with the dating preferences of a handful of women you met in high school and college despite all the evidence to the contrary? And before you bring up those same tired two opinion pieces you do in every reply, get some new material. Your preoccupation …
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 05:34 PM
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They are, by men who value those things in their women. The same can be said for men. But no matter who they’re associated with, having muscles is not indicative of being a movie trope. You associate them with bad boys because you associate everything that makes you inferior with bad boys instead of just realizing that people are more complex than what you’ve been conditioned to believe in RP echo chambers.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 05:10 PM
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Your point?
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 04:59 PM
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Because achieving a highly muscular physique also shows discipline and dedication. Most men don’t have 6-packs, most women’s boyfriends don’t have 6-packs, most women don’t hold having a 6-pack as a requirement for their partner. You are viewing things from a RP man’s perspective. Women don’t look at celebrities and hold regular men to those same standards.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 04:49 PM
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Yeah I thought “Dorian” didn’t sound right 😅
/r/ExRedPill28/11/21 02:21 AM
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Have you ever thought about forming your own group? Maybe around an interest or hobby of yours. I’m sure other people your age would like to have a place to meet people too if there isn’t one already.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 04:49 PM
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Find reasons to get out of the house that you actually enjoy. You may not be interested in online dating but have you tried local meet up groups? Meetup.com has a list of available events and groups that help adults meet new people. Try that.
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 04:23 PM
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So with a success rate of 0.5%, keep trying while watching someone go forward with a success rate of 25%? Why are you watching them in the first place? It’s not a competition to see who gets the most women. Only trying at life when there’s a guaranteed outcome of success is the adult equivalent of a participation trophy. Constant failure (in ANY setting) kills self confidence. And for good reason. It's honestly a coping mechanism to suggest that one should embrace nonstop failure. It's fine to s…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/21 04:37 AM
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A woman having a fantasy does not mean she will act on them. That’s like saying any husband would leave his wife for his favorite pornstar. You are operating under the assumption that women only find bad boys attractive, but the same could be said in the reverse. Maybe a woman dates bad boys in spite of her really wanting a nice, romantic guy. Does that mean she settled for the bad boy? The two feelings are not mutually exclusive. As soon as you get over this idea that attraction is a zero sum g…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 07:37 PM
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Women find bad boys sexy. Women find nice guys sexy. Women find nerds sexy. Women find athletes sexy. I can use your same logic to apply to any other type of man, but that doesn’t mean one is superior or explain why some women prefer one over the other. And that’s the other thing, you’re completely taking the woman’s individual preferences out of the equation. You can find specific attributes of the one group attractive but feel that others are incompatible with your lifestyle. Maybe he had diff…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 07:02 PM
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I don't want to be with somebody who is not attracted to me. Then don’t be. But according to you any girl who chooses you would be settling. Would you be fine if you knew your partner imagined you were somebody else every time you had sex? Would that not make you feel insecure? How would you know this? Has this happened to you? Has a girl actually communicated to you that she doesn’t find you attractive but she’d sleep with you anyway? If not then don’t worry about it.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 06:37 PM
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And sexual arousal/entertainment has little use outside of the bedroom. So why are you hinging your entire self worth around it?
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 06:03 PM
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Their interests are changing due to past experience and a switch in priorities. How do you know those are the only reasons? Did they tell you this or are you still hung up on the idea that girls only settle down once they’ve been ran-through? A woman can want a nice guy without having had experiences with bad ones. Also, if they were not still attracted to bad boys then they would have no interest in Fifty Shades. Do you know how problematic people found 50 shades upon its release? Just because …
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 04:59 PM
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If this new wave of feminism has taught us anything it’s that traditional aspects of masculinity that go unchecked produce toxic, emotionally stunted, immature men who have issues with accountability. The truth is most women do not want “bad boys”. They’re a fantasy best kept between the pages of erotic novels buried in the nightstands of sexually suppressed housewives of yesteryear. The women who admire the men of those books and movies like the whirlwind nature of these relationships (the pass…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 03:24 PM
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“Just be confident bro” As shallow and patronizing as this sounds it’s actually good advice once you change your mindset. When people say this, it doesn’t mean that having confidence will guarantee you the outcome that you want. It has more to do with your willingness to keep trying instead of relying on natural ability or experience. True confidence should stem from a place of self-assurance. It’s having the knowledge that everything is going to be ok even if things didn’t work out the way you …
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 02:30 PM
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I don’t see what any of this has to do with being rich and attractive. Looks do not make up for entitled behavior, disrespect, or shitty character and neither does wealth.The types of people who think that usually have never gotten past the vapid beginning stages of a relationship where those things are appealing in terms of initial attraction. They assume that’s all there is to it. Do you value longevity of partners or numbers? Because looks and wealth usually only guarantee the later. Confiden…
/r/ExRedPill20/11/21 04:52 PM
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It just seems that the "competition" for attractive women has skyrocketed the past decade. Where are you getting this from? Beautiful people have always been in high demand. Social media just gives you a way to quantify how attractive you are through the popularity of likes and followers. This inflates their worth in the eyes of some men so they spend their time contemplating how to get these women high in social currency. Thats where the illusion of competition comes from. All the dating gurus,…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/21 04:21 PM
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This is what we mean when we say TRP and PUAs treat picking up women like a vending machine. You think all you have to do is follow a certain input, exchange currency and out plops sex or a relationship. There is no one-size-fits-all formula that works every time when it comes to picking up women. If you want a sure thing then the most this guy can give you is more money that you could use to spend on a proper prostitute. These men don’t know your problem. They could makeover everything from you…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/21 09:16 PM
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It’s not something that other groups would easily understand. The stereotype of black men being hyper masculine may seem like a surface level advantage but in reality its extremely limiting and often relegates them to being seen as nothing more than sexual brutes not potential partners. In other words, you’re something to “experience” not to be taken seriously. It’s easy to feel like your life to others is constantly being viewed through a stereotypical lens, but focus on cultivating your own im…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/21 05:50 PM
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I first heard of them after they told a black girl on their panel that they wouldn’t normally date black girls but for her they’d make an exception. As if this girl (or any other black girl) would ever look their way in the first place. Ever since then they’ve always rubbed me the wrong way. “Fresh n Fit” are more about flexing and throwing fits than understanding the nuances of modern dating behavior. You can tell they were those dorky guys in high school who got pushed into lockers and all the…
/r/ExRedPill02/11/21 09:19 PM
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You understood wrong lol
/r/ExRedPill01/11/21 02:17 AM
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Look, I can tell by your comment history that this is something you’ve struggled with in the past. I’m here to tell you that nothing is universal and the following statements are a product of my own personal tastes and opinions. Let’s say they’re both doing a stand up routine fully clothed. I’m not attracted to Aziz, his style of humor is also not my thing. I’m also not particularly drawn to Zac, and I’ve yet to decipher any humor in him at all. But all things being equal, if they could both mak…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 03:05 PM
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I can get aroused but not the same way men do, I’m not dripping from my seat if that’s what you mean. But it definitely makes me pay closer attention to them and want to learn more about them.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 12:19 PM
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The point was that most men don’t get complimented, period. The woman was just saying that once she became more aware of this she wanted to start complimenting them more. You said not getting any compliments was just a sign that you’re ugly. I provided you with examples that show your experience is actually quite common and not one that singles you out as being inherently inferior to other men.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 02:28 AM
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Compliments coming from a place of envy are still compliments, no matter who they’re coming from. What does the person having a vagina change about their meaning?
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 02:07 AM
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It’s almost impressive how absolutely determined you are to staying miserable lol. Most of the comments are attractive dudes saying they were oblivious to women compliments Even if that were true, so what? You seem pretty oblivious to compliments yourself. How do you know you’re not one of them? You didn’t notice the height compliment and just brushed it off as patronizing. I doubt you’d know how to accept a compliment if it fell into your lap. You don’t know what these guys look like. Now you’r…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 01:38 AM
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And if they don’t then that means what? You’re sexually worthless? That no one will ever love you ever? No. You see how much of your power you’re giving away by thinking like that? What are you going to do, change everything about yourself every time you find a girl you like? What a miserable existence you’re inflicting upon yourself. Imagine never getting a compliment or anything your entire life You’ve already said people admire you for your height so that’s already not true. No matter how muc…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/21 12:54 AM
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You think I’m telling you all this just so you can get girls? No. That’s your problem. You see being single as the worst thing you could ever be and you’ve centered your whole life around fixing that “problem”. You’ll change your looks, your personality, even your face just on the off chance you might get a second glance. Your real problem is not being able to be alone and be happy about it. A woman thinking you’re hot affects your life how? You think what, you’ll fall in love and lose your virg…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 11:58 PM
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I’d say you need to work on realizing, ugly or not, you can still be a whole human being. But specific to dating apps, they’re all shit. They’re also specifically harder for dudes.Getting matches doesn’t guarantee a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 11:42 PM
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So the only time you want to interact with women is if you’re being praised or pursued? Sounds totally healthy. Why wouldn’t woman sign up for that? I would argue facial features and large penis size are much more attractive traits than the latter Right, because women ask that stuff up front lol. They must just include height and race filters on dating profiles because they want to humor you lol. You calling me pathetic is interesting and I would agree with that, no sarcasm. I'm a coward and men…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 11:17 PM
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Last time I checked I did more with my partners then just look at them all the time. We hang out with each other because of common interests, senses of humor, and have similar values. I’ve actually slept with guys I didn’t find attractive at first. You know why? Because they saw and treated me like a human being and not just a collection of fertile parts. That’s sexy. They also tended to have high body counts because, shocker, women like it when you treat them like people. A pretty face doesn’t …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 10:51 PM
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Is it normal to be in your mid 20’s and have had 0 interest from the opposite gender? Yes. Yes it is. Again, you’re not special. And before you say it, you haven’t seen their faces either so you can’t possibly know if that’s the reason why. My face is the common denominator. Last time I checked you are more than just your face. You also have a personality that has, so far, been off putting even to me as an internet stranger who’s never even seen you. Just based off how you’re talking right now I…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 10:28 PM
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So because women aren’t throwing themselves at you you’re a freak of nature? And you’re somehow worse off than the people physically deformed enough to join the circus? THATS how deep your victim mentality goes?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 10:12 PM
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So let me get this straight: You’re not clinically impaired, you admit you have an above average height (something that other men envy), and you belong to the most dominant group of men in western society. All you have is your perception and everyone around you is even telling you thats wrong. People are straight up telling you they want what you have and you think you’re nothing special. But maybe the whole world is wrong. I guess you’re life is harder than all the people I’ve mentioned combine…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 10:00 PM
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For me it’s sense of humor. If a guy can be playful, read the room, and understands comedic timing then I tend to melt lol.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 09:16 PM
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No it’s called reality. The only thing I am dismissing is your helpless attitude and the excuses for why you’re apparently the most unattractive man on earth. You don’t have a disability, you have all your arms and legs, you’re presumably not on the spectrum, you’re not deformed, you’re not paralyzed, you have no reason to believe you would be made a spectacle because of your looks. It’s ok to admit you’re insecure, everyone is. But to live in a land of hyperbole is just wasting your time and mi…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 09:09 PM
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No, don’t avoid the original question. Do you really think you’re just so uniquely grotesque that a man with no legs , an elephant man, a tree man and two Siamese twins are all Chads compared to you? In a time period where having black skin made you subhuman, you think the mutant twins were getting all the praise?? Having sex doesn’t make you special. Not having sex doesn’t make you special. Having a girlfriend doesn’t make you special. Not having a girlfriend doesn’t make you special. Everyone …
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 08:23 PM
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You really think you’re that special? That you’re just the one person in the world thats destined to be alone forever because you have a below average face? The Siamese twins lived in North Carolina. They became American citizens, bought slaves and fathered 21 children. They were famous for being “freaks”. A title that could have made them pariahs in their time. So why did it work for them?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 08:05 PM
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You didn’t answer my question. Are you really insisting you have it that much worse than people with actual deformities like the Siamese twins or the Steven Hawking who have all gone on to marry and have multiple kids and sometimes even multiple wives?
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 07:49 PM
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First of all, we already established in this thread that looks aren’t everything. They’re just what you’ve chosen to focus on instead of actually acknowledging your crappy attitude. You view any work you do on yourself as pointless if it’s not leading you towards your ultimate goal, finding a partner—That is your issue. THAT is why you will never be happy. Not because you didn’t get picked. But because you will never be willing to do the work that would improve your life alone. A man thinking yo…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 07:22 PM
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it’s just that I’m flawed in every possible way You don’t think THATS a hyperbole? Life is like monopoly in that it’s never consistent. No one can maintain a winning streak for their entire lives. You’ve yet to list even one experience where you can definitively link your looks to being your actual problem. You’ve always just assumed they were even though so far it’s never been directly stated. You need therapy and to possibly explore the chance that you have BDD and getting on medication. No wo…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 05:43 PM
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And I made this reply because I have been seeing you all throughout this subreddit the past few days lamenting your situation and blaming your looks while ignoring the real issue. Your way of thinking is inherently not conducive to getting what you want. You think you either have to be born perfect or change for people when all you really have to do is stop treating self improvement like a magic pill that will automatically unlock a relationship. If you were happy with yourself then you wouldn’t…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 02:41 PM
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The important thing to remember is that looks aren’t everything. But to answer your question, I’ll put it this way: There is no happy, well-adjusted bombshell who would look at your attitude on here and find that attractive. You’re much better off trying to become the type of person that you would want to date. Take control of your own life and start making things better for yourself, regardless of whether or not you think there’s some perky brunette at the other end of the tunnel.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/21 01:40 AM
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Kids talk about sex so much because it’s funny and taboo at that young age, not because they’re all having it. Despite what you may believe, high school (I won’t even begin to address that middle school assumption) is not one big orgy taking place after school like some kind of extracurricular activity. And most of the people who were banging could attest it wasn’t “the best” of their lives. You may be more sensitive to the topic because maybe that’s all you wanted at that age, but I doubt you p…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 09:15 PM
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Where are you getting this information from? American pie? Teenage “love” may feel real at the time, it may even leave a lasting impression well into a person’s adult years but that’s primarily because it was their first time experiencing such feelings, not because it’s the “purest love of all” or some bs. Most people that age are way too young and inexperienced to understand the depths of their own emotions, let alone someone else’s which is why those relationships are tempestuous. Most people …
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:29 PM
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In high school we didn’t talk about people having sex unless there was some scandal surrounding it. Sure there were couples who you could infer were probably sexually active, but it was hardly a hot topic. Most people that age are still reeling from their first kiss.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 07:09 PM
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How would I know that? I don’t go around asking people as soon as I introduce myself lol.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 06:32 PM
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I’m sorry but could you rephrase that question using non-incel talking points? Are there sides now that I should be aware of? Please let me know because not everyone is as into that black-pill lore as you.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 06:05 PM
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Demanding to have sex just because you’re in a “hostile school environment” is not nature, it’s petulance and entitlement caused by a bruised ego. You’re right that we’ll never be able to curve the sexual appetites of boys, but we can challenge the notion that having sex is something that makes you superior to other boys. You are not only actively participating in your own “subjugation” but perpetuating a culture that admittedly makes you miserable—but you don’t have to. Even if we did institute…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 05:56 PM
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Is this a joke? Why don’t we just institute sex Ed programs that de-stigmatize virginity for all genders and educates teens on safe ways to act on their urges without putting themselves and others in danger? The less you think of sex as some all important ritual to manhood then the less control it has over your life.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 05:36 PM
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No, it would only be a contradiction if it went against a universal statement, which I never made. Hindsight should tell you that this was simply me attempting to placate your side of the narrative. If you were capable of that nuance you previously accused me of lacking then you would know that no one can make a definitive statement of this nature. I even said myself that human relationships can not be simplified into binary truths like whether or not it is raining. If you really wanted to under…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 05:06 AM
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It’s not a fucking straw man argument if I’m responding to words you literally said. Did I literally say that it was universal though? How the fuck am I supposed to know which words you mean literally and which you don’t? I can’t read your mind. No but you can read context and the clues were literally right there. Not everyone is going to spell things out for you every time. And since I didn’t make that claim I had a hard time even knowing what you were talking about but I digress. Have some god…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 04:44 AM
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And I’m telling you that you chose to focus on this “universal claim”-straw man to discredit my argument when in reality I never said my perspective was ubiquitous. It’s equally as valid as yours if not more so because mine is supported by more than just my eyes.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 04:32 AM
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I’ve been doing this my whole life Ok and? The point of pursuing your passions is that they make you happy. Having people be attracted to you because of them is just a bonus. You just come off as inauthentic when you say you’ve been tailoring your personality.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 04:27 AM
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And then you continued to challenge my perspective by insisting that your narrow scope is far more suited to reality despite being equally as limiting. I’m sorry but is this is your first time having a conversation over the Internet? Because if it isn’t then you’d know that the use of hyperbole is actually quite common. If you prefer to take my words literally in an effort to undermine my argument then that intellectual laziness is on you. But if you had kept up with me then you’d know I that I …
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 04:15 AM
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If you were only concerned with describing your environment then you wouldn’t have felt the need to challenge my original comment in the first place. For all you know, I could have been describing by surroundings too, but You could gather based on the content of this thread that these experiences are actually more common. I never once made a universal claim. If you are trying to imply that I did based on my original comment then that would just go to show how utterly incapable of nuance you real…
/r/ExRedPill19/10/21 03:59 AM
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You mean this one? The one that literally lists “cherry picking” as a similar search result and also makes claims such as Where only one or a few anecdotes are presented, there is a larger chance that they may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases. Similarly, psychologists have found that due to cognitive bias people are more likely to remember notable or unusual examples rather than typical examples. Thus, even when accurate, anecdotal evide…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 11:26 PM
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You’re right. Maybe I should get a 33 year old bf to tell me.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 11:18 PM
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Well since that’s you’re anecdotal opinion then I guess I should listen to it.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 11:16 PM
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And the examples you have were ludicrous. You really think you can compare something as complex as patterns of human dating behavior to an observation like whether it’s raining outside? For all we know you could just live around a lot of interracial couples, doesn’t mean they’re as common place as you think they are. That’s where gathering scientific data comes in so you can test your hypothesis by doing a proper survey of the population. Your eyes are not proof. My claim is anecdotal evidence. …
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 11:04 PM
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No, your observations are not “just as good” as scientific data. That’s the thing about science, it’s meant to be impartial and weed out bias. You, on the other hand, are full of bias and are only willing to listen to the things you want to hear which is why you’re tuning me out. And if you knew a teenager who dated a 40 year old and are ok with it then that just makes you a pedo-apologist and a predator. I’m not saying it’s not possible for a woman that young to find one attractive. But it is i…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 10:25 PM
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You perfectly summarized my budding feelings for my recent celebrity crush lol😭 For this guy, his looks were eh at first. Cute but nothing to write home about. Then when I saw him engage fully in more interviews, his charm, quick wit, and goofy sense of humor is what really solidified my attraction to him. He really went from a 6 to a 10 (guy best friend to Zaddy) in my eyes just that quick. And in others eyes too because he’s becoming more popular outside of his music. That’s why I’m so adamant…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 10:04 PM
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And you are mistaking your anecdotal evidence as proof instead of listening to a person who is actually that age. Dude, it is in no way normal to see girls that young with men that age. How many college coeds do you see running around with salt and pepper zaddys? Young girls flock to big cities to get close to men with money and opportunities, so of course it’d be more common there. That’s it. No one our age seriously considers dating an older man without a financial incentive. Why would we?
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 09:38 PM
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And to someone our age a man of 33 might as well be our father. I’m well aware that it isn’t actually old in the grand scheme of things. But when describing the age within the context of dating an 18 year old it doesn’t feel like you could possibly have anything in common. You might as well be from another planet to us.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/21 05:46 PM
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Ok?
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 10:31 PM
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Mine too, but that’s not the point. They’re average dudes like I’m sure OP is.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 12:29 PM
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Nothing…I’m just using them as examples knows that you don’t have to be perfect looking to find a match. They’re beautiful couples and I wish them all the best.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 12:24 PM
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Look, the point is your face isn’t as big of a barrier as you think it is. I would link a couple more photos but I have a feeling you’d have a hard time being objective with yourself. Because of this, I really don’t think you’re in any shape to be in a relationship right now.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 02:06 AM
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(/s) I’m sorry are you only friends with supermodels? Is that how you pick the people you want to be around, because if so there in lies your problem. Explain the millions of “ugly” men who make up the tags on National Boyfriend Day. Why have all these men been able to find love when they are objectively far from what you would consider a ten? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not because they’re all six-foot tall chads with 8in peens and washboard abs. Beauty is incredibly subjective, personality is i…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 01:50 AM
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Then don’t change your personality? Find someone who will appreciate it. But be advised, don’t feel discouraged when some people don’t. You’re not for everyone.
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 01:24 AM
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It sounds to me like you’re not past the acceptance stage. Acceptance isn’t a level you need to achieve in order to unlock the “prize” that is a relationship. At its core, it should leave you feeling whole irrespective of others perceptions. You still view your looks as an obstacle keeping you from finding a partner whereas if you truly accepted yourself you’d be able to see all the other amazing qualities a person might be attracted to—which yes, relationships are about more than just looks. Wh…
/r/ExRedPill15/10/21 12:53 AM
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Again, you are using an extraneous example and applying it to an average situation looking for it to hold true in both contexts. No one said confidence is all you need. Your little point about the plumber and the lawyer just proves that. We are often assigned value outside of ourselves, so what? Women are not just looking for men with high earning potential. There’s a reason plumbers and lawyers have similar divorce rates and that’s because they’re more than just the job titles they have. But no…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 03:44 AM
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I’m sorry dude but you make it really hard to understand you. I’m sorry if English isn’t your first language, but if it is you do a really lousy job of collecting your thoughts and streamlining them into coherent sentences. You talk about confidence like it’s some kind of card to be played to one-up the competition. “He gets girls but he’s not confident”, “millionaires don’t have to be confident”, “who would you rather choose a confident plumber or a lawyer”. It’s a bonus, not a requirement. Hav…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 03:30 AM
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You are using billionaires, the top .001% of the world population to judge an entire argument that is based on the everyday person. Makes sense. The point is that being confident can make you more attractive, no matter where you get it from. But it’s best if it comes from a place within so that nobody can take it from you. You’re making this more difficult than it needs to be.
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 02:55 AM
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You have constructed this whole narrative out of nothing. You were the one who made decided to compare yourself to millionaires, not me. You are the one feeling disappointed that the “magic formula” you feel you have been given hasn’t worked out, not me. You are looking for absolutes where there are none. THAT is your problem. And until you work that out you will always be a disappointment. From what I can gather from your ramblings you seem to be confused at how people can be successful in dati…
/r/ExRedPill14/10/21 02:53 AM
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I didn’t say it was the same. In fact, I didn’t say half of those things which leads me to believe you are just word vomiting out your deepest insecurities when no one has even brought them up. No one is asking you to be perfect. Get that out of your head. You already answered your own question. “Surpassing certain fears” makes you feel capable. Feeling capable leads to you to trying more new things with less fear. The more you try, the less scary new things seem, so when you do eventually fail …
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 01:34 AM
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I think you are misinterpreting what is meant by the phrase “magic bullet”. Being confident is general advice given out on this sub because many people here have shown a lack of self assurance which contributes to their problems. It’s a tool to be used when relevant, not an answer that’s applicable under every circumstance. With confidence, you will eventually “be all right” in the sense that you won’t let things bother you as much. Being all right in this context doesn’t mean what you think it …
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 05:52 PM
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Keep telling yourself that ;)
/r/ExRedPill10/10/21 02:52 PM
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Only no it’s not lol. Maybe basic red pill psychology, but those of us who’ve done the work ourselves know better.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/21 02:28 PM
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You forgot from within.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/21 01:42 PM
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And what I’m saying is that women avoiding you does not impair your abilities to “be a man”
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 12:38 AM
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Kevin Samuels doesn’t teach anyone how to be a man. He just gives bitter men a license to stone women with high standards. Female attention does not make you less of a man. Women do not possess the power to turn you into a man at all. Basing your entire sense of manhood on what women do will make you feel that way though. But what’s especially unattractive to women is a man who’s only dating you to fill a void or validate his own self worth. Do you even really want a relationship? Because your p…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 04:24 PM
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I’m sorry to break it to you but you are an older man and if you think an 18 year old is in your range then you are a creeper. Your thought process is exactly “what a lot of older men think”. You admit you have nothing in common with most of them, so why even consider them as an option just on the off chance that one may find you attractive one day? Nobody wants to feel like an old man, but as someone within your range I can tell you that’s exactly what we view you as. Any old man who hits on me…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 03:57 PM
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All of his advice is exactly the same. It can only be summed up as: “HVM only want women who are young, beautiful, thin and submissive with no previous children of which most of you won’t qualify and thus you won’t be able to get a HVM so you need to settle before you hit the wall.” Even the way he titles his videos implies that he’s only interested in putting women down— because he knows thats what his audience wants to see. I really recommend Mahogany Pink’s video on him. She does a great job …
/r/ExRedPill06/10/21 03:45 PM
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If by “get with” you mean use her for sexual then I suppose so. Genuine connections are not so easy to find.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 05:09 PM
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Because people are not one dimensional characters only capable of displaying one personality trait at a time. I see what you’re getting at but in the end all you need to know is this: people want different things from different people. Women (and men too for that matter) want different things at different times and may use different people to fulfill those needs. If I want casual sex I don’t need the guy I bring home from the bar to exhibit all the qualities I would want in a future husband. Yea…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/21 09:35 PM
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I’m glad to hear you’re doing better! And it’s great that you made the decision to get on antidepressants. The last time we talked I told you it really was a game changer for me. My advice is don’t be afraid to talk to your doctor if you have any side effects or aren’t noticing any changes. You have to work together to figure out what’s best for you. I definitely agree that unplugging for a significant amount of time can do wonders for your mental health. Sometimes responding on this forum feels…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 11:54 PM
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I’m speaking on the circumstances this whole conversation was originally about, you’re asking for general advice in which the circumstances can be completely different. There’s a difference between approaching someone at a bar or at work. Unexpected does not equal unwanted. Good looking does not automatically mean more likable. Again, if you can’t tell the difference between these things then you really have no business trying. Either stay on topic or stay miserable like that guy and keep wonder…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:20 PM
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I didn’t ignore it, I keep bringing up grand gestures because that’s what your original reply was referencing whether you realize it not. “how would the abusers start abusing someone with no history” Now you’re talking about a completely different scenario. Everything I’ve said up until this point had to do with women returning to abusive partners, not searching for them. But in any case my last reply still stands: They have to believe they deserve better before they can actually accept better. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 11:02 PM
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Hey fren! Ok pm me for an honest opinion.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/21 09:51 PM
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Whole lot of assumptions being made here lol. So far I’m not impressed with your abilities to read people. But if you keep it up, you just might make the trending page. Good luck brotha ✊🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:22 PM
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You don’t need to be a master con artist to fool people into thinking you’re a nice guy. Why is everything so extreme with you people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:20 PM
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You made the claim you could do it in 2 conversations or less. This entire thread proves you cannot. You cannot honestly tell me you knew as much about me at the beginning of this conversation as you did at the end. We talked for a while, you admit it took time for you to pick things up on me too. Your actions prove you’re not as levelheaded as you claimed to be. Your own hypocrisy is making a mockery of you. I didn’t acknowledge 99% of the points you made because they were irrelevant. I literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:17 PM
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No, look back at my original post. Every point I have made this far was referencing back to your original claim: that if a nice guy behaved “exactly” the same way an abuser did (I.e “they’re telling them everything they want to hear in a grand fashion, “having someone pour their heart and soul into winning you back”) that he would not succeed because he isn’t as attractive. Doing anything in a grand fashion, like being overly complimentary, can be considered a red flag. It’s not paranoia or bitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:02 PM
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But if that’s the case we could easily reverse it by perpetuating a more positive image of a stable black father with a job. Yet we choose not to, why? Because that image also appeals to a lot of young black men as well who idealize a life making fast money and edgy drug/gang culture. Truth is a lot of those videos are aimed at attracting young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:11 PM
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This conversation took how long? And you claimed you could do it in how many conversations lol? Expert communicator indeed. But sure you learned your lesson (“God you’re such an insufferable asshole”). Totally don’t sound like you have abusive tendencies at all. I am convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:55 PM
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You are literally pulling this stuff out of your ass because I didn’t say any of this stuff and no subtext would have lead a rational person to believe I did. You’re not as good of a mind reader as you thought lol. I never said they crafted fake personas, hiding things you know are bad is not creating a new personality. I’m convinced you’re either neurodivergent or have aspergers or something because you seem to think people who do bad things are just really shitty at hiding it. No sweetie, like…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:06 PM
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No, true nice guys exist and do things for girls all the time. The difference is they don’t label themselves as “nice” for it and know how to express their interest in the healthy way Reread what I said “if your feelings are genuine, there are healthy ways you can display your interest that don’t feel forced”. If all your regular dates are carried out in a grand fashion and consist of the aforementioned “pouring out of your heart and soul” then you’re going to come off as imposing. There’s a tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:07 PM
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It’s only a twist to people who think the way you do. If your feelings are genuine, there are healthy ways to display your interest that don’t feel forced. Anyone who thinks they can fabricate a connection through grandiose acts or even a simple compliment is probably down bad and looking for a winning formula. It’s pathetic. In my book, the only true way a person can be “successful” is if the person they’re interested in likes them back, wants the same things and is willing to make things work.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:09 PM
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You’re not understanding me. It’s manipulative either way. Anyone who feels the need to make grand gestures and wild public declarations of love isn’t doing it for their partner, they’re doing it for others. A normal person wouldn’t feel the need to show off as much, it’s off putting and puts the recipient in an awkward position if they deny their advances. These are tactics used to apply social pressure on the victim, it makes others say things like “why isn’t she giving him a chance?” A nice g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:20 PM
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No, I’m describing things regular people do—lie. Regular people lie and mislead without malice to get what they want. Abusers are no different. What you are imagining an abusive partner to be is a caricature: big, brutish, mean man who is calculating and corrupt and hellbent on causing harm. Abusers can be just like you and me, they just keep their “bad habits” on the low low. You sound inexperienced or just socially inept so let me break things down for you: everyone hides a part of who they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:08 PM
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Or which is more appealing in the moment. These tactics are manipulative, if a “nice guy” is doing them then that means he isn’t that nice after at all. Being ugly is not a virtue that alleviates you from having bad intentions. Good looking does not always mean good choice. Get out of here with that black and white way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 12:28 PM
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I’m not talking about sociopaths, I’m talking about average people, and you’re right the average abuser is not antisocial. They can be kind and charismatic. Having ASPD is not a prerequisite for an abusive partner, that would be too easy of an excuse (I.e Only someone who couldn’t feel for others could do such a thing). Do you think every negative thing you do is worth telling to a potential partner? A person who’s been violent in the past can recognize their behavior was wrong and still justify…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 02:39 AM
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How do you know someone’s telling the truth? They could tell you a whole story about how they were in the wrong and conveniently leave out the terrible acts of violence that they committed against their ex. It doesn’t matter if you have malicious intentions, when you’re purposely trying to mislead someone into thinking you’re not as bad as you are, you’ll say and do whatever just to sound genuine. You need time to find out someone’s true intentions. People can and do change. It’s called manipula…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:36 AM
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So what traits can you identify in the first few conversations that distinguish a future abuser from a “nice guy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:51 PM
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Why is that the “much more likely” scenario? You seem to think abusers wear that shit on their sleeves. You can’t tell shit about a person in two conversations or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 11:30 PM
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But that’s the thing, these manipulators are being kind— in the moment. They’re telling them everything they want to hear in a grand fashion. They do this so much that it overshadows the momentary instances of abuse that in the victims mind are an aberration and don’t represent the true nature of the relationship. Being kind is the bare minimum for most people. Having someone pour their heart and soul into “winning” you back seems more appealing in the moment than the beginning of a normal relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:34 PM
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You’ve been brainwashed into believing that there is some universal formula that will automatically make you “good enough” for everyone. Newsflash, there isn’t one. Being your best self just means being the type of person that YOU would want to be. Don’t want to be in the gym 25/8? Then don’t. Want to be more active in your daily life? Then set a goal and stick to it. Interested in intramural sports? Then try out. What type of man do you admire? Who are your icons? Your #goals, the men you’d lik…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/21 10:12 PM
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I feel like love bombing is also a factor here. Abusive relationships have a cycle and the beginning of a new relationship is always the best of times. Think about being intensely showered with affection, gifts, and promises for the future, you’ve been made to believe that all this is a sign of "love at first sight". Since such signs of affection and affirmation may meet felt needs and not look harmful at the surface, the excitement of such a new relationship often does not appear as cause for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:31 PM
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This. I don’t think enough people are considering how manipulative those relationships can be and how they go on to affect your approach to new relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:17 PM
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I feel like love bombing is also a factor here. Abusive relationships have a cycle and the beginning of a new relationship is always the best times. Think about being intensely showered with affection, gifts, and promises for the future, you’ve been made to believe that all this is a sign of "love at first sight". Since such signs of affection and affirmation may meet felt needs and not look harmful at the surface, the excitement of such a new relationship often does not appear as cause for alar…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:12 PM
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People make up stories online to sound interesting and get likes. She probably picked the worst ones that would make for the most juicy content. Your confirmation bias is showing. Even if they are true, so? People as individuals do shitty things, it’s human nature. Something doesn’t need to be universally true for you to begin to trust people again. The ones who aren’t doing these things probably don’t feel the need to brag about it on Twitter for brownie points, because it’s the norm for them. …
/r/ExRedPill21/09/21 12:15 AM
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Am a woman. Can confirm 👆
/r/ExRedPill18/09/21 02:41 PM
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https://youtu.be/be_Ms3nVG10 This video really broke down for me in simple terms how and why men turn to TRP in the first place. You may see yourself in some of these reasons, but I recognize there’s not many people online offering alternative to what your looking for. You need to toss out all the “logic” TRP has taught you. This guy is a great way to start.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/21 09:31 PM
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Great first step! I was just thinking about deleting the app myself. Good luck to you 👌🏾
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 11:59 PM
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What you fail to realize is that you already are SOMEBODY’S type as you are right now. You just fail to see it because you look at yourself as “you” while somebody else sees you for your whole being. You are sitting here complaining about things that happened back in elementary school as if your status there somehow decided the course for the rest of your life. I never got complimented growing up either. I can count on one hand the number of times my parents called me beautiful. People used to t…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 11:07 PM
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I’m a woman who, according to TRP, is in the c*ock carousel riding phase of my life since I’m early twenties. I see a lot of guys my age and race who subscribe to this mode of thinking and I feel the affects of it first hand. I see this in the way our men demean us in order to lower our confidence and elicit submission. I hate the all-or-nothing, black-or-white thinking of TRP. Human relationships are so much more complicated and can’t be reduced to tropes based on a singular wolf pack. I’d like…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 09:37 PM
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I’m 23 and I’m still figuring that out for myself. The way I see it, my best self is the version of myself I’ve always wanted to be. Insert whatever traits are important to you or what you would admire in another man. You probably know them already, think of your idols and what it is about them that you like. Odds are it’s more than just looks, and if it is just their looks then you need to reassess your priorities. You really need to understand that there are certain things about you that can’t…
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 09:13 PM
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You post way too often on this sub looking for quick answers to vast topics. The truth is there are no universal truths when it comes to dating. Everyone likes different things. Sure you could go by statistics and say that men ye tall with ye body fat percentage happen to report having the most partners but that doesn’t guarantee you will. Focus on being your best self, not changing your life to match the trends of women who may or may not end up liking you anyway.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/21 07:44 PM
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Women aren’t encouraged to approach as often as men though. Which is why a woman making the first move is considered a novelty. Often we are told to give subtle hints like playful gestures of eye contact but that can be easily misinterpreted. You can’t measure your attractiveness as a man based on how many women come up and explicitly tell you they’re interested.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 10:46 PM
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As a man you shouldn’t be expecting anybody to be pulling you out of anything. You’re not a child, no one is going to hold your hand and teach you how to navigate the world. Life isn’t a movie. There is no manic pixie dream girl waiting around the corner to inspire your brooding young mind and usher you into manhood. Shyness itself is not a bad thing. Being so shy you practically border on being Anthropophobic is something you’d probably need to work on with a therapist. It’s one thing to not li…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 06:09 PM
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But can you open your own jars?
/r/ExRedPill07/09/21 02:12 AM
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Firstly, stop applying this useless red pill logic to dating and actually get to a place where you don’t feel the need to constantly check yourself for desirability. It’s annoying to hear but get comfortable with yourself first. Life is about more than just attracting women. Be the type of man you always wanted to be and the women who want that will follow. Don’t blindly follow a trend just to attract women, it’s pathetic. Be your fucking self. Look the way that you want but remember that looks …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 05:06 PM
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Yeah I don’t attend pity parties. If you want to believe that then fine, but then you had no reason to make this race-based post since your mind is already made up. If you want to believe that there’s nothing else you can do to improve yourself then enjoy being miserable 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 04:36 PM
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I will answer this based on what I perceive to be the red pilled perspective: Black women are known for being race loyal. I think society has a lot to do with what we find attractive and Black people have been at the bottom of the social, economic, and cultural totem pole in the United States for a long time. The red pill community is obsessed with this hierarchy and use the model of the submissive, docile woman (a mold black women have been considered the antithesis of) to further shame a group…
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 04:32 PM
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The reality is black men of all shapes, sizes, and styles date white women, yet you seem to think that they succeed because they are black. You see how problematic that sounds right? You shouldn’t be looking up to black men in their “successes” any differently than you do white men. Because at the end of the day, white men are your primary competition when it comes to getting white women or women in general.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 04:12 PM
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You are internalizing a narrative that does.not.exist. No commercials are out there saying “get you a black man”. I have heard no white women gushing over the subject in public. No one is trying to convince you there is a new “top dog”. If that’s the message you get just from seeing a couple more black men on a screen then you’re more race sensitive then you think. You claiming to be seeing it everywhere is just means you’re noticing it more than you did before, not that you’re being forgotten. …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 03:50 PM
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You shouldn’t be fashioning yourself after any one group of men thinking that it’s going to increase your chances of getting with women. “Imitating” an entire racial group is just unnecessary. What you’re basically saying is that you acknowledge that whiteness has been the template all along and that blackness is nothing more than a fad by which you need to keep up with in order to not get left behind. Being black isn’t a trend. Playing into stereotypes, even if you think they’re positive ones, …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 03:33 PM
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Do looks matter? Yes. Are they everything? No. I’ve hooked up with guys I thought were way too hot for me and guys I hadn’t even considered options at first. It really depends on how they make me feel and personality really does go a long way. Women who are super attractive have struggles with dating too. You might be surprised. Getting a lot of attention isn’t always positive. Someone incredibly good looking often end up alone because they scare away all the decent guys and the only ones brave …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/21 04:36 AM
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Who and what determines worth? You all seem to think that any woman with average looks had no right to have standards while an average man can just buy his. Are those the types of men we should believe give us value? The ones who put their worth in their ability to buy time from a woman he’s not interesting enough to earn himself? If so, you have a pretty warped sense of value.🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 03:17 AM
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Total beta move lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:07 AM
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I’m not sure I know what you mean by “want to want”. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:49 AM
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Now we’ve come full circle. Like I said in the beginning, women considered attractive by most rarely ever have low standards. Be prepared to have that cash up front daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:31 AM
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Wow, you must have a lot of money to pay a revolving door of “whores” who’s demands may bankrupt you any given day. Once again, super solid investment courtesy of the great minds that bring you TRP. 👌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:26 AM
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Ah yes, women are the shallow ones but LVM demanding upgrades (upgrades that they spent absorbent amounts of money to even get) whenever they lose interest is a totally sensible and worthwhile investment. So, what’re are you going to do when you’re the “washed up old whore” who’s no longer in a position to be making demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:22 AM
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Yes good. Because we all know the golden red pill rule is that when it comes to women, their looks last forever. Look, if you want to believe bending over backwards for a woman who’s value has a shelf life is more worthy of your time then that’s fine. But don’t complain when that “shallow bitch” leaves you because you’re no longer able to keep up with her demands lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:15 AM
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Agreed. I am only one woman. So take what I’m saying to be the truth and then apply that logic with every other individual woman and you’ve got a recipe for success 👌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:11 AM
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I find this belief that desirable people don’t also use Reddit to be quite amusing lol. Because everyone knows that hot people are too busy doing hot people things like combing their hair, oiling their biceps, and resting their hands from left swiping all day to partake in interesting discussions on a social media platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 01:08 AM
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“It will never be mind blowing best sex of her life” and “she’s going to remember this sex forever” are assertions not observations. No woman here has corroborated this mentality. I doubt any woman you’ve ever met in real life has ever said anything close to along these lines. So where did he get them from? The answer is his own insecure mind. Women may not always be open and honest with their partners and that’s unfortunate. But if you have a live one who is giving you point-by-point instructio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:57 AM
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Lol average women are too shallow but a hot woman will be better? Makes perfect sense. I’m sure all the worthwhile endeavors like nails, hair, and expensive gifts she will require in order to even touch you will appreciate over time. Good investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:45 AM
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“More attractive and less demanding” lol. Never met a woman considered attractive by most with low standards. Good luck competing 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:37 AM
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The women in this thread are still women and not men speaking on behalf of women. We could go back and forth here for hours about anecdotal evidence, but the most logical conclusion for finding out what women want would be to hear it straight from the source. What motives do you think the men speaking for women might have? Could they, maybe, be trying to deflect any feelings of inadequacy on the women instead of themselves? The only thing women have to gain from telling the truth about what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:26 AM
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Still, you think pretty people can’t or don’t have opinions on these things? You may think you know what drives them but clearly you don’t. I’m sorry but that makes no sense. That’s like saying rich people have no interest in stocks because they’re rich either way. Regardless of their place in society, the topic of the OP is something everyone could experience. Life isn’t a game. There are no winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:17 AM
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Correction, women and men have normal human interactions but insecure men take this to mean the world is conspiring against them and form pathetic communities to moan and cyber slurp at each other’s trauma. There I fixed it for you. 🤗
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:12 AM
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There’s a reason you never see sequels to movies where the girl “rehabilitates” the bad boy. Because stuff like that doesn’t happen in real life, and when it does it’s usually at one person’s expense. Sometimes tropes are just convenient stock characters and plot points. Like whole dumb jock thing. Most of the jocks I knew in high school had 4.0+ GPAS, but some of them really leaned into the stereotype regardless. Js sometimes life imitates art and not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:06 AM
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What do you think “too nice” looks like? Because most women want men who are decent and upstanding. But it seems that men seem to conflate being bold, edgy and aloof with assholish tendencies. If a girl you like is attracted to true toxicity (i.e manipulation, lying, abuse, etc) then that bullet did you a favor by redirecting her path. Toxic traits attract toxic, wounded, insecure people in need of constant validation. For these people, it’s the thrill of getting somebody that everyone else “wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:42 PM
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Is that why so many men come here to complain about no women wanting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 11:38 PM
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You are literally comparing an action that defies the concrete laws of physics versus the abstract concept that women are not all the same 🤦🏾‍♀️ Instead of listening to the real WOMEN here who are telling you differently, you’d rather listen to a MAN who THINKS he knows what women want. While you’re at it, why don’t you ask the plumber to fix your cable next time. Why not just listen to the actual women? If what your saying was truly that common you’d be seeing very different answers here. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:33 PM
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“Google is free” is a neutral statement. Calling someone stupid is not. A simple rewording of your question would have sufficed (because you obviously weren’t clear enough with your question) if you were truly interested in hearing my perspective. Every attempt I have made to provide you with contextual information was met with capitalized condescension whose only purpose, I assume, was to make me look ignorant. The truth is you don’t need me to explain anything and your tone has been far from c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:22 PM
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It’s a self fulfilling prophecy! If you count yourself out before you even try, or undermine your efforts to improve, you are literally setting yourself up for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:10 PM
1

I established early on that a prenatal paternity test is an option for establishing paternity. You obviously can’t force anyone to do anything, but you can discuss the matter with your partner or settle through the court system if necessary. Child support is not the only grounds for seeking a paternity test. Establishing your legal rights as a biological parent are filed under filiation proceedings. While the rules vary by state, this means you have grounds to establish paternity even if the mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 09:04 PM
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Here..on Reddit lol. Ok dude. Sexy women can’t have opinions. Gotcha 👌🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 08:26 PM
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Lol because some women think it’s easier to lie than communicate that somethings not working. That’s why communication outside of sex is also important. Your partner needs to trust that you won’t get mad or feel embarrassed if they tell you their true feelings. And that’s something that can only be done outside the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:55 PM
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How about ask her? Lol. No one is expecting a man to be a mind reader here except men. Women are the ones saying they don’t mind being asked questions. Sure it may be a temporary mood killer, but they act like women expect sex like something in a r&b music video. There’s nothing wrong with a little trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:35 PM
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Lol single women can’t enjoy Reddit? Sexually active people don’t just go out looking for lays and laying on their backs all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:28 PM
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How do you know they’re married? I’ve seen one woman here mention her husband and 10 others say they’d prefer a partner communicate with them instead of assuming what they want. Even if they are in LTR, not everyone who enters those is sexually experienced. You’re looking for some universal truth here when there is none. Everyone is different and wants different things. It’s really not that hard to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:22 PM
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Unless you’ve dated a considerable portion of the population you have no reason to believe all women want the same thing. ☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:18 PM
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Soooo her not being able to request child support and makes mad because?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:16 PM
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No one here has said that. You are the only one using the term “fail”. You’re putting too much pressure on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:17 PM
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Then, other than your perpetual victim mentality, what is your issue? She refused to establish paternity so you don’t have to pay. If you’re still concerned, you can file a court order. You have more rights than you think. In conclusion: “Is it legal to refuse a court-ordered paternity test? Yes. But there are potentially serious legal repercussions for people who refuse to take it.” Reading is truly fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:59 PM
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Well if it’s been happening forever then why am I seeing so many women here claiming they want the opposite? Men have been complaining forever that women don’t know what they want, but when we tell them what we want they blame some theoretical straw man Chad for setting the bar too high. It’s pathetic. This red-pill, all or nothing, you’re either born on top or die coping is defeatist attitude that no woman finds attractive. It’s clear you don’t speak for us women and you never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:49 PM
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I have yet to see one woman here asking for any of that. It sounds to me you’ve concocted an image in your head of the type of man you think women want when we are telling you that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:01 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:20 PM
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Compare notes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:20 PM
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I swear some people on this sub stay looking for reasons to be hopeless. Women are literally telling you what they want in bed by saying “just listen to your partner” and some people have to find a way to make that a “beta move”. This is about comparing yourself to other men. A man who knows what he’s doing is a nice surprise. But every sexual encounter is different. So a partner willing to listen each time and deliver exactly what you wants in that moment is a godsend and definitely leaves an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 04:06 PM
1

I’m stupid but you don’t know how to use Google?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:33 PM
1

So you truly believe that men face more pressure to be good in bed than they do to have as many sexual partners as possible? Nothing I’ve ever seen in our culture reflects that. If it were true, PUAs would be measuring their successes in “number of orgasms achieved” instead of “number of lays”. In fact the only time I see RP on here complaining about women’s expectations of masculinity is when they think they’re too hard to meet and how that may keep them from having sex with them, not pleasing …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:38 PM
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Please point to where in my comment I said or even implied that only women experience these things. You only mentioned problems specific to men after I illustrated the differences in treatment between the sexes when it comes to sexual competency to try and prove some childish point. We both experience societal pressures to perform. That’s it. That’s the post. But hey, if you or anyone wants to be mad at women for having expectations then just don’t have sex with them so you don’t let anyone down…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:22 PM
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Google is free
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:57 PM
1

Omg that’s such a totally unique experience! It’s not like women experience shame for the size and shape of their bodies as well. You think men look at infertile women favorably? Or women with vaginismus? What about men who prefer women to be sexually adventurous which requires knowledge and confidence? I don’t mean to deflect here, but nothing you’re describing is unique to men. Do these beliefs exist, yes. Are there women out there who make their preferences known, yes. But you should in no wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:53 PM
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Let me get this straight, you expect the woman to be responsible for her egg AND the millions of sperm her partner produces? No no. You’re an adult. Have a sense of responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:56 AM
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Oh come now. You are not a helpless bystander in all of this. You know what sex is for. You know how babies are made. You know the risks of bedding a crazy bitch. All of these things are factors you take into consideration and all of which are completely within your control. Your “point” here is based on an incredibly small portion of men trapped into paternity under such circumstances. The chances of which can go down the toilet completely with a simple flush of a toilet with the condom. You do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:28 AM
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And a woman shouldn’t have to be responsible for both his and her problem if they both engaged in an activity they knew contained high risk. If you don’t think you should have to be accountable for your actions in the event things don’t go your way (like say a condom breech) then you should stick to partnerless sex. That’s what we tell women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 11:32 PM
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Then take the condom with you if you distrust women so much. Or flush it. Both of those things are completely within your control 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 11:07 PM
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Literally yes. Especially considering factors like limited access to birth control, reduced abortion services, pregnancy complications, and the possibility of literally dying while giving birth. Then factor in socioeconomic issues like access to healthcare, maternity leave (or lack of), job discrimination, or the very real scenario of doing this all on your own if your child’s father suddenly disappears at any point during all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:52 PM
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It sounds to me like you’re just not emotionally mature enough to accept the risks of sex. Communicating with your partner eliminates 90% of the problems you just mentioned. The other 10% could be solved by routinely wearing a condom (which yes reduces pleasure but simultaneously the lowers the risk of pregnancy). The only gendered difference here is that even if you suck at it you will still be viewed favorably for having successfully had sex with a woman. Masculinity is most often measured in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:44 PM
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He made the decision to have unprotected sex. That was the extent of his control over the situation. So yeah, he doesn’t wrap up then he should be prepared to face the consequences if she decides to be accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 10:22 PM
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You too! 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:30 PM
1

I definitely agree about the mixed signals thing. For some women, no really means convince me and they expect any interested man to be the pursuer. Also, this outdated notion that a man who is mean to you is an alpha and inherently more valuable is readily acknowledged among women to be toxic. I think that this is a left over of traditional values, that views women as the ultimate prize, coupled with their own entitlement. But this definitely isn’t all women and many women hate that kind of beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:48 PM
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I have seen that interview actually :) but are you telling me the average men thinks of sex the same way as the booty warrior? As in, willing to risk life and limb and freedom over the thrills of a conquest? If that we’re true we’d have more like him. Sure you have guys with rapey tendencies or who are just ticking time bombs but that’s not the majority of men, at least id like to think so. I’d say the recent disproval towards sex culture stems from the fact that we as a culture have been undoin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:48 PM
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I respect your perspective and understand the physiological differences between men and women, however, to say that the higher levels of the pyramid would cease to exist entirely if men were having less sex is a stretch. By your reasoning, men would put their libidos before things like shelter and physical safety which I find hard to reconcile. But let’s just say that this is true, I don’t think your “need” for physical release supersedes a woman’s right to choose when and with whom they have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 01:40 AM
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I don’t have to be married to know that marriage won’t make me a whole person. A soldier doesn’t have to go to war to know that their position is valuable to a lot of people. And a poor man doesn’t need to be rich to know he contributes something to society. You are the one choosing to base people’s worth on whether or not they’ve gotten their dicks wet instead of on their intrinsic value as a person. Learn to define yourself outside of arbitrary labels and experiences. But I do get it. Sex is e…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/21 12:17 PM
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I find it incredibly interesting how some men have somehow managed to conflate semen retention to superhuman abilities while simultaneously attributing male sexlessness to the collapse of society. So celibacy is somehow a benefit to y’all while also being the cause of all the worlds problems? Got it. How pathetic is it to reduce modern men to cavemen who couldn’t possibly function at a higher level without the promise of coochie as a currency? As if they have no other motivations, values, or pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:06 AM
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Why do you care so much about who others are having sex with? Even if this was true, which it isn’t according to the above commenters who actually bothered to read the full source, if that’s enough to send you reeling into a depressive episode then you need to seek further help outside of Reddit. Your worth is not defined by the amount of sexual partners you have. You are putting way too much emphasis on an activity that takes up maybe 15 minutes of someone’s day and that is your real problem. D…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/21 01:37 AM
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I can’t like this enough. Opinions actually supported by evidence is so rare on this platform. God bless you for taking the time for reading the entire source.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/21 01:29 AM
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The truth is that there is no one size fits all answer to dating, sex, and relationships. Once you stop looking for the easy way out, which would be having people tell you how things are instead of learning for yourself, then you will start to see just how incredibly diverse women and relationships can be. Women are individuals, yes there may be some common beliefs we are taught based on our environment or cultures but the modern woman is largely individualistic. Anyone telling you otherwise is …
/r/ExRedPill09/06/21 01:09 AM
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