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That's why public policy isn't negotiated based on the whims of an individual, its based on averages, populations, and culture. If x million people would perceive a threat in y situation, then its reasonable to conclude z about the threat, even if 20 people (or even 100,000) wouldn't feel that way. The subjectivity of "safety" doesn't mean that the feeling of it is a vain pursuit in policy. For example, theft is illegal because we've decided its morally wrong in our society to steal but also bec…
/r/MensRights18/12/16 10:21 PM
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Doubtful. A couple of my black friends were sort of ambivalent after he won. You ask them why its not a bigger deal to them and its because they already knew a racist white guy could be president. The people that are most upset about this are liberal white people.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 10:10 PM
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If I had to guess, he was banned for saying "your feelings are yours to worry about, not a matter of public policy", which contradicts the assertion that societies should strive to make people feel safe. He's just arguing for the sake of arguing. However this should be achieved through guaranteed physical safety I'm pretty sure that's what feminism suggests. People here are honestly getting upset over nothing, which is ironic.
/r/MensRights18/12/16 09:58 PM
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Sometimes I think it's only men who are often born completely clueless and need to work/study at figuring this shit out. You're born with it, it's just conditioned out of you. That natural, predatorial intuition has no place in institution. Too many people not liking their toes stepped on by aggressive personalities and go-getters.
/r/seduction22/07/13 05:58 PM
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And if she has a few other guys that are interested in her and after her time? If you can't rely on your initial impression to differentiate yourself from all those others guys, it probably wouldn't matter if you tried to set up the date yourself or not. She'll flake even IF you get her to agree. But if your game sucks, than yeah, you can't really afford a carefree approach. Does OP's game suck? I don't know. I was just pointing out it isn't inherently wrong to let her chase. I've heard a lot of…
/r/seduction19/07/13 01:32 PM
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For example, am I doing something wrong if I tell a girl to give me a text sometime when she's free next week This'll depend on the impression you made when you met her. Some people are going to say don't ever do this, but i don't see a problem with having it in the arsenal. The same "anxiousness" she feels when she's "sitting around waiting for you to contact her", as the PUA narrative goes, she may feel when she realizes you may not contact her. It's retarded to make blanket statements like se…
/r/seduction19/07/13 05:29 AM
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lol through video chat
/r/seduction19/07/13 02:36 AM
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Planet Earth, the BBC dvd set.
/r/seduction19/07/13 02:32 AM
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cocky funny =/= dancing monkey
/r/seduction18/07/13 02:27 AM
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Take everything you just said you were doing... and do don't do it. This isn't hard. As in, don't be apologetic. Don't mimic people. Don't rehearse fake arguments when you're alone. If it's painfully obvious, it should be painfully obvious how to fix these things.
/r/seduction16/07/13 04:07 PM
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If I didn't want it, why would I still be trying? You're looking for some one to tell you it's easy, you've just been doing it wrong. 2. You're looking for someone to tell you it isn't your fault. 3. it's easier to live with yourself if at least half-heatedly you believe "you're trying". I don't know man. There are a dozen different reasons people do things, but even if you had all of those reasons, it wouldn't matter if one of them wasn't that you really, really wanted it more than anything. Ne…
/r/seduction15/07/13 11:35 PM
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It may not be pertinent to say that emotions are either alpha or beta, but instead the willingness to convey emotion. An alpha male isn't necessarily one that doesn't show "soft" emotions, but the one that shows all emotion without filter or apprehension. They are 100% raw what they are, and their tendency to be this way makes them polarizing. Polarizing people make good leaders. Beta males are manipulative and aim to control their peer's perception of them. At the core it's fragile & weak, but …
/r/seduction15/07/13 11:45 AM
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Show a girl two messages written in different ways and she will feel different things. Granted. But what's the mystery? Game doesn't change because it's over texts. So why single out texting as if things are different? If it doesn't matter, why are you even here then? Threads like this perpetuate ridiculous beliefs about game. The very idea of calculating what to say into micromessages to manipulate her perception of you is the exact opposite of what most people need to be doing. Instead of wait…
/r/seduction15/07/13 07:14 AM
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I always cringe when these threads come up. Grown men obsessing over whether or not they're "?" use is excessive, or whether or not their emoticons will be misinterpreted. It doesn't fucking matter. The same principles in actual game operate in texting and online. Talking about "text game" is the equivalent of talking about "game while wearing a red shirt".. "red-shirt game".. "post-9:30 pm-while-out-with-4-friends-2-of-which-are-male-while-wearing-an-anklet-game". I've yet been convinced that a…
/r/seduction15/07/13 04:42 AM
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what are you calling failure? change your definition of failure, so that you don't fail anymore. rig it to win it as they say. I really want to have fun again. If you really wanted to, nothing would hold you back. For whatever reason, being negative is just easier. So no, I don't think you really want to. It's harder for some people than others, but if you really wanted it, what's the issue if not a simple conscious choice? If a stranger's reaction to you in anything that you do deters you from …
/r/seduction15/07/13 01:54 AM
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There is certain attraction in getting back together with your introvert ex, as it means skipping all the annoying parts. I feel like the whole extrovert/introvert thing is just a veil of bullshit to hide the reality of it. You're an introvert because socializing is hard. It's hard because you don't know how; it's a chore because you suck at it. Those annoying parts are just the hard parts. I'm also an introvert. But I gave myself permission to be self-amused. And i still suck at it, but now it …
/r/seduction13/07/13 06:59 AM
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Tip: Don't think about anything what you're supposed to be doing when you're at a party. hope it went well.
/r/seduction12/07/13 12:04 PM
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Unfortunately there isn't anything in the graphic about reference experience i.e. actually going out. The idea is that you can study crap like this until you're blue, internalizing it as best as you can, but when you're out it shouldn't ever cross your mind. The thing is though, that after a night out & as soon as you can, whether it was a sexcess or not, you then turn around and analyze everything. Why were you successful or not? This is why people do field reports. Over time, the more referenc…
/r/seduction11/07/13 01:48 AM
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but I have a pre-loaded outfit for when it's needed. Here it is. If that's your go-to outfit, everything you said can be ignored. Tacky, boyish glasses, graphic tee, some sort of cheap slippers, you some how managed to clash your denim with the rest of your outfit, gaudy & needless watch.. a beanie.. and i'm ripping you a new one as someone who generally believes fashion is pointless to obsess over anyway, especially in terms of seduction. no offense, but your post shouldn't be upvoted at all. t…
/r/seduction09/07/13 07:31 PM
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The only real answer.
/r/seduction07/07/13 04:42 AM
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Seduction isn't work that you do for a specific outcome. It isn't a matter of trading services i.e work for reward, it's a matter of trading genes. You can't do attraction. You either are or you aren't attractive. All of this seduction/pick-up crap is just mimicry of the people that naturally exude it. It's self-help. So when you resent your role as a man for having the responsibility of being someone worth a shit, and you resent her for holding out for that person, what good are you doing anyon…
/r/seduction03/07/13 09:39 PM
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.. no it doesn't. it's easier to believe it matters than to make it work. othello had the same problem and that mofo ended up dead.
/r/seduction03/07/13 06:14 AM
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So it's always the guy's fault i really hate juvenile and bitter crap like this. sexuality is motivated by the economy of genes. her body won't let her feel arousal and fuck a dude unless he's worth something to her. it's "always the guy's fault" that what? where does the word fault come into play? Except if she was just as horny she would find a way to elicit the responses she wants. But that's just silly, isn't it. if she's gaming the dude, then obviously he's worth something to her. what's th…
/r/seduction03/07/13 06:04 AM
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No. that women don't show desire unless the right male qualities elicit it from them. just because she's horny doesn't mean she's ready to fuck just any dude.
/r/seduction03/07/13 05:50 AM
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This isn't anything seduction didn't already know.
/r/seduction03/07/13 05:29 AM
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Tiny's gay.
/r/seduction01/07/13 12:13 AM
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because charming her and escalating even if you didn't want to fuck her is fun? flirting is fun, it isn't necessarily a means to an end.
/r/seduction01/07/13 12:11 AM
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He didn't have his arm around her all night. Even if that were the case, it may not have been the make-it-or-break-it for her. Thus I don't think it's fair to say with any certainty that repetitive kino is definitely bad. It's easy to envision a guy choading out and hanging all over her out of insecurity that if he doesn't she'll run away. but I didn't read anything in the OP to make me think he was choading that hard.
/r/seduction23/06/13 09:36 PM
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This makes sense only assuming he was doing everything else right and the only weak link was the kino. I doubt that. I can't say repeative kino is good or bad. it's meaningless out of context. i will say it still served a decent purpose. she felt like she had to say she had a boyfriend. so there's that.. we could interpret that a couple of ways. maybe her "buying temp" was too high & the anti-slut defense went up. maybe she was intrigued and wanted to slap him with the shit test that breaks most…
/r/seduction23/06/13 06:09 AM
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oh haha k no big dying inside lol
/r/seduction22/06/13 09:00 AM
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In night game I don't think you really can 'escalate too quickly' as long as she's comfortable & willing you. That's pretty key. Often this isn't going to be early in the night. She didn't get all dressed up to just leave with a stranger after only being there an hour. This is always an obstacle. She's there because she wants to experience the club, and she won't want to leave until she feels like she's "seen all there is to see", so to speak. This includes douche bags that she really isn't inte…
/r/seduction20/06/13 03:34 PM
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If being muscular makes you feel better about yourself, sure. Get yoked.
/r/seduction14/06/13 07:07 PM
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lol hilarious. it's less than 2 minutes & i'm already pissed off at her.
/r/seduction14/06/13 12:22 AM
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absolutely. i've learned that when she bitches about stuff, she's not actually looking for any input. she just wants to bitch about stuff. it seems ridiculous to me, but that's how she seems to work best..
/r/seduction13/06/13 09:49 PM
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but I don't feel like I'm building any sort of connection with a girl, so it's a really high flake rate. Any idea how I actually connect on a deeper level than "Oh, you work at x? That's cool" In my opinion, you need to be more polarizing. More challenging. Conflict with her more. Elicit a strong response. She walks away thinking oh dear diary, today a nice guy came and talked to me <3, when she should be walking away with her hair blown back thinking holy shit what... who the fuck.. i can't bel…
/r/seduction10/06/13 08:39 AM
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"significantly" where have you ever read that a healthy immune system will significantly lower the risk of syphilis, HIV, or herpes
/r/seduction10/06/13 08:34 AM
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i've always wanted my penis to turn into a carboxylic acid
/r/seduction10/06/13 08:32 AM
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It's nice to read something written by someone who's well-read in pick-up. At least instead of der de deeerrr here's how to avoid a clinger. But what do you mean by this? This is what Style meant to say when he said "sometimes, the 7 hour rule doesn't apply." Remember, you are playing a team sport against another team. I get the 7 hour rule, and I get that it isn't meant to be interpreted as if it's iron clad. But what's your inner dialogue here about the team sport analogy.. it's not really cli…
/r/seduction10/06/13 08:12 AM
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Girls will try to trap you with 1 & 4. They want to see if you're the kind of dude that will talk shit about your past girls, to then see if you'll talk shit about them later. They're basically shit tests. Most of my bros do this as well. I'm not sure if I just hang around a particularly negative group of people or if it's just a norm to talk shit about everyone when they leave the room. Dat der elusive ecosystem of positive emotions
/r/seduction07/06/13 04:51 PM
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Speaking is one of those things that is used so frequently that your mind will teach it to you in the most efficient, energy effective way. For me that means my body doesn't want to use air it doesn't have to and it doesn't want to project from the diaphragm. So for a vocal exercise, an alternative to the Ding Dong exercise for vocal range is throat singing. I'm a shallow breather & for whatever reason the higher frequencies of my voice resonate more than the lower & it makes me sound more nasal…
/r/seduction07/06/13 02:23 AM
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the necklace thing will either be really good for you or really bad for you. it's pretty much up to your discretion whether you try to make it work or not. personally i don't fuck with accessories. if you think your chest hair will be a problem, trim it down or just shave it off. my chest hair also goes up to my clavicle, but at that point it's not very thick. so it's not a problem for me. this is sort of what i'm working with. you could try stretching a regular shirt. the whole point of buying …
/r/seduction06/06/13 05:59 PM
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Something like this.A couple things that make this work: the shirt. it fits. it's not too long, it's not too short. it's long enough such that if he were to significantly raise his arms, his shirt would lift revealing dat der adonis belt & trouser line. The sleeves aren't too long or to short. They don't hug his arms uncomfortably nor are they too loose. Any shirt can fit though so really the only stand out thing here is the neck-opening. It's a bit more open than an average crew neck. once dish…
/r/seduction06/06/13 05:21 PM
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What makes him a player exactly? He's married. Since when has a marriage been player-status
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:54 PM
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Whoa, I needed her attention so bad that it left my emotionally crippled? This is hilarious. How do you gather that from my post? We havent talked much but mentally, I'm still sitting in limbo with her because I really liked her and I'm holding on maybe "emotionally crippled" was over the top. nevertheless..
/r/seduction06/06/13 03:34 PM
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mmmk so who cares? conveying true intent is useful when it's useful, and not when it's not. whose problem is it when she isn't sure what to think?
/r/seduction06/06/13 04:32 AM
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I don't see anyone at fault. Does she owe you a relationship because she initially pursued you? Is it her fault that you needed her attention so bad that it left you emotionally crippled when she pulled away? Rather than people focusing on how they can change their methods to accommodate needy clingers, why don't we just put more of the onus on needy people to fix their scarcity? This thread isn't about avoiding clingers. They happen. Can't change that. Instead this threads about "how to be nonp…
/r/seduction05/06/13 11:54 PM
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The point of budgeting the interest you show in a girl is to get to her covet you a bit, because it qualifies your validation. It's a necessary part of game, because if your validation has no qualification, she won't chase & won't be attracted. It is a good strategy. But if the guy actually isn't interested & really is trying to withdraw from her, it's just an unfortunate consequence that she could interpret it the wrong way. Generally, she's only going to misinterpret if she's prone to being cl…
/r/seduction05/06/13 11:45 PM
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Treating her really nice, looking like having a great time when you two hang out but sporadic contact in between dates Being hot and cold is a tried and true method to cultivating a girl's interest in you. Blunt signals work sometimes, playing hard to get works others, but sometimes, mixed signals net the best results. It's worth it to me to deal with a clinger every now & then for all the success of being hard to read. Taking less initiative than before but still seeming very interested when sh…
/r/seduction05/06/13 10:07 PM
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You're rational, humble, down-to-earth, realistic, and you're a man. You said that confidently, so why don't you believe it? Isn't that something to be confident about? You build confidence through reference experiences. You have to fail many times to eventually feel comfortable while presented with the possibility of failing. Anecdote: In weighlifting, maybe some people here can vouch for this phenomenon, the body will go through a stressful period right before a very heavy set. So say you're a…
/r/seduction28/05/13 07:31 AM
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same. I mean props for not fucking up, but she gamed you is what it looks like. still though.. dmhs i guess
/r/seduction27/05/13 07:26 AM
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upvote for the word "finagle"
/r/seduction20/05/13 09:52 PM
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well it could be argued that being influenced by someone else's cell phone usage is also low value. what do i care if she'd rather stare at her phone while i'm having fun? what if distracting her and scolding her for what she's doing is fun for me? either way, i think we're talking around the same point. do whatever increases your own state. do what's fun. if being around HBs that aren't on their phone is your strict preference, cool. sometimes it can be useful to approach women you know you won…
/r/seduction19/05/13 03:36 AM
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plenty of reasons to. hitting on women is fun. social momentum to hit on someone less annoying. maybe she's not always absorbed in her phone. maybe she's on her phone because she's there to get laid but nobody's made it easy for her yet. its usually worth a short conversation just to see
/r/seduction19/05/13 02:41 AM
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well said. i wish the state of man weren't such that people here needed a goddamn script just to seem interesting to the drunk people at a bar. that should be a red flag that something else is totally janked up in your life
/r/seduction16/05/13 06:37 PM
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we can use manipulative techniques like this to hopefully bag a girl drunk/self-conscious enough to respond to something like this. hopefully nobody needs an ace up the sleeve to game a drunk girl. if dudes here need this to rope in the insecure drunk chick, then the inner game bullshit everyone's always moaning about's probably a whoooole lot more needed than i thought
/r/seduction16/05/13 09:34 AM
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it works because it chases after the root of what actually works. maybe techniques & scripts worked in the past, maybe they work now. but the pickup noob fawning over the "I like three things about you" scenario is no closer to being attractive by memorizing it than he is by clicking on any other garbage link on reddit. in my opinion.
/r/seduction16/05/13 07:59 AM
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Sweet. Another gimmicky "technique" complete with faking text messages and following a script.
/r/seduction16/05/13 06:32 AM
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it should be liberating actually. being nice is manipulative.
/r/seduction13/05/13 09:58 PM
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Outcome independence Congruence
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:30 AM
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Try this. Buy a beer, bottled, not draft. Go to the bathroom. Poor & wash it out thoroughly. Fill it with water. Put a cuzie around it. & pretend like you're drinking. The cuzie's meant to hide that there's no carbonation in the drink. Better yet, fill it with a soda. It's definitely a crutch, but at least you can practice the bar atmosphere sober without feeling totally awkward. The end goal obviously being sobriety without the crutch. Edit: Game-wise I haven't tried this, I just use it as a tr…
/r/seduction12/05/13 10:18 PM
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I hated that little fucker when I discovered RSD, now I fucking love that guy. His voice is hilarious if anything.
/r/seduction11/05/13 04:59 AM
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has it? when?
/r/seduction10/05/13 09:06 AM
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good stuff. even approaching basically from behind he ends up with most of his weight supported on his heels i.e. he's relaxed, he's speaking slow & clear even under pressure, and my favorite, he manages the logistics of the mom as if she were a fat friend standing right beside them..
/r/seduction08/05/13 05:17 PM
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Another way to put this approach: "rig it to win it", or so i've heard. The point is to be very utilitarian about your thoughts & decisions. At every step, ask yourself if what you're doing or thinking is helping you. If it isn't, drop it, cut it out, and move on without it. This includes emotions. If daydreaming in the shower about beating up a guy & getting road-head from his girlfriend isn't helping you, cut it out, and stop daydreaming. If you're shitting bricks about a job interview you thi…
/r/seduction04/05/13 01:47 AM
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Same reason a ton of guys will hook up with a hot girl knowing she's had more dick than the 5 she brought with her. Social proof turns girls on. Since they're all friends, you might even say none of them wanted to be the one friend that couldn't fuck him. and no, I wouldn't suggest acknowledging it. Especially as a "tactic" that's just a bad idea.
/r/seduction30/04/13 10:02 PM
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someone already said this, but charisma's energetically expensive and unless you seriously believe it's a necessity, your body won't budget for it. the point of making yourself uncomfortable is to teach your body that you require more energy to be charismatic. i say charisma, because confidence is your disposition to your own charisma. people don't see confidence though, they see charisma.
/r/seduction25/04/13 04:16 PM
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fucking this. it actually may have been accurate if the main character were a hot girl. notice how the main character was totally passive, didn't take their flaws too seriously, was a horrible driver, never noticed to person who was actually attracted to them, didn't offend the person they rear-ended reality: nobody in that video should have smiled that girl at the office never noticed him he rear-ended a butch ass man in a 1999 camry nobody gave him a pep talk when the office hottie turns up en…
/r/seduction24/04/13 12:59 AM
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Day game is the same as text game is the same as night game is the same as festival game. The things that work aren't changing just because of the medium or venue.
/r/seduction21/04/13 11:45 PM
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TLDR; offer value. don't leech it.
/r/seduction18/04/13 07:49 AM
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Inner game is a new concept. When people get into pickup they're coming in with the 1990's narrative of what "picking up chicks" is, because they don't realize how much its changed. Questions like the ones you're talking about are always going to be around, and since this is reddit, i would say most of them will be a bit cringe worthy.
/r/seduction16/04/13 02:22 AM
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I wouldn't take that generalization to heart. Chicks like the idea of beards. Whether or not you, as the guy, are pulling it off or not is a different matter altogether. Chances are, if you've got a beard, it probably isn't doing anything for you.
/r/seduction16/04/13 02:20 AM
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I like this. Don't approach because you want the girl, approach because you want to conquer yourself. Women don't want incomplete men, and being complete entails defeating your ego. Approaching and being rejected is part of that effort. Use the approach to self actualize & boost your own state.
/r/seduction14/04/13 06:49 PM
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One thing you'll notice about doubters is that their speech is generally very accommodating. They speak quickly, and with lots of subordinate clauses, scrambling to explain themselves & their thoughts, because they think if they speak slowly they're wasting someone else's time. Whereas confident speakers, do the opposite. They're paced, not rushed. They speak deliberately and concisely, sharing no more information than is necessary, because after all, anything they have to say is too valuable to…
/r/seduction12/04/13 06:33 AM
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this. if she'd spoken any english it very easily could have been an insult. implying that she needed it. that's like asking a fat person if they're shopping for a power-chair. real smooth.
/r/seduction11/04/13 10:56 PM
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Have you ever been so disgusted during sex that you had to stop and leave her? Why? Have you ever DP'd a girl with tyler or another instructor? I know one of you motherfuckers is in to pegging. Who's the smuttiest dude you know where do you call home these days?
/r/seduction04/04/13 06:25 AM
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go out & talk to other girls.
/r/seduction04/04/13 06:18 AM
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if you don't want to wait for the AMA he has a video specifically about this question. can't be bothered to find it, but he films it while he's in israel. short-answer: all girls everywhere respond to the same game.
/r/seduction04/04/13 06:15 AM
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The inner game minutia I'm talking about is stuff like congruence, outcome dependence, self-actualization.. maybe meditation. There's a link in the side-bar to a lot of innergame stuff that I just perused & there are some links from there to resources talking about a few of these. Most of the innergame stuff I know about though came from RSD and David Deida. If those are new concepts to you or you don't know quite what they mean, I would jump on RSD's youtube & start watching videos. Tyler Durde…
/r/seduction01/04/13 01:00 AM
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I suppose if it's all new to you. As frogma already said, the key thing here is knowing why they work. The pick-up is pretty linear, right? It's a pretty scripted interaction. In the public conscience, it's guy sees girl, guy walks up, build rapport, buy her a drink, she rewards him w/ number, call her x days later.. Or at least, that's probably how most women think it's going to happen. Now, the pick-up guy bag-o-tricks will get you through, surprise surprise, the pick-up portion of the interac…
/r/seduction30/03/13 09:57 PM
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Accumulate as much spit as you can before you speak, and as you nonchalantly spit it out, give it less projection than is necessary & allow it to drip down your face.
/r/seduction30/03/13 05:38 AM
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Ignore her beauty. You're not talking to her body, you're talking to her brain suspended in her body cavity. Her body isn't listening to what you say, it can't. It takes practice, but you're seeing people's bodies as themselves & it's stifling your ability to engage them. Don't do that. People aren't their bodies. For the purposes of what you're trying to accomplish, they are their minds. The issue isn't "what do I say next", that's a secondary issue generated by the first. I guess you could say…
/r/seduction29/03/13 07:17 PM
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Don't obsess and make this your struggle. It's his. He'll either paradigm-shift through this & progress, or he'll stagnate & hold you back. There's no reason you can't still be friends, but I would suggest a new wingman. Being jealous & butthurt over girls, of all things, is the last thing you need in a wingman.
/r/seduction28/03/13 10:15 PM
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which part
/r/seduction21/03/13 06:44 PM
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From Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World by Jack Weatherford, page 9. Genghis Khan's ability to manipulate people and technology represented the experienced knowledge of more than four decades of nearly constant warfare. At no single, crucial moment in his life did he suddenly acquire his genius at warfare, his ability to inspire the loyalty of his followers, or his unprecedented skill for organizing on a global scale. These derived not from epiphanic enlightenment or formal schoolin…
/r/seduction20/03/13 09:39 PM
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well now you're just being combative. you can't honestly miss that everyone is in this subreddit to learn something
/r/seduction20/03/13 05:33 AM
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He didn't pick her up. All we know is that she favored him amidst all the other guys who obviously wanted something from her. There is no physical strategy involved if you're automatically more valuable than everyone else who's creeping her out.
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:02 PM
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seriously, what's the point of even saying something like that over the internet? what is there to prove to anyone here? geeze
/r/seduction19/03/13 07:00 PM
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Diet and exercise can boost testosterone levels. Not to a degree that will trump approach anxiety. Your personality isn't going to 180 flip. Anxiety will still be a challenge. In any case, approaching comprises about 10 seconds or less of what's going to be an ongoing, dynamic relationship. Test may get you in a conversation with her, but it isn't an end-all solution like guys love to believe. That's my point. I am all for guys taking their health seriously, and it is a component of doing well i…
/r/seduction17/03/13 08:33 PM
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accountability's important in difficult changes, though the more people you tell about what you're trying to do, the less likely you generally are to follow through with it. so keep it intimate.. and don't neglect stretching.
/r/seduction17/03/13 05:15 AM
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The technique assumes a prior level of tension, and we're also talking about moments, not minutes. The point of being comfortable with silences is to convey that you aren't scrambling to accommodate anyone e.g. you're not being "nice". I say accommodate because guys generally overcompensate when things get a little slow or there's an awkward pause in rapport. Since most guys believe they should be impressing their girl 100% of the time from open to close, they get very uncomfortable in silences.…
/r/seduction16/03/13 08:22 PM
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Bumping to make sure you feel the same way 9 hours later.
/r/seduction16/03/13 07:33 PM
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Of course they affect each other, that's not what's being argued. The issue is whether or not being fit changes how you think & what you think about. So let's say you clean up your diet & workout regularly for 6 months. You're relatively "fit" now (though nobody ever takes up fitness & physique oriented sports & just decides "they're good enough now" and becomes complacent). If you were paralyzed over-thinking everything before, what changed in those 6 months to change how you think? Maybe your …
/r/seduction16/03/13 07:26 PM
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I don't know why you were downvoted, but I agree. This is some of the most irrelevant, useless posts I've ever seen. It shouldn't be confused with advice. It's promoting dependence, limiting beliefs, and renaming one insecurity into another. You buy into the delusion that fitness will help you attract women because you're scared that it might be something else. So your over-analyzing mind rationalizes to itself that if its body is fit, everything else will fall into place. Otherwise you would ha…
/r/seduction16/03/13 07:33 AM
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First, I HATE the "game". I don't play games in any area of my life and I am a very successful person. This will be an issue. For starters, nothing in the game is arbitrary. There is always a reason for the way things happen. It may seem otherwise, but seduction is basically courtship & courtship is biology & biology is nature, and shit doesn't happen in nature for no reason. You already know this. So if it seems arbitrary and silly, it's just a matter of perspective. Women don't want weak genes…
/r/seduction15/03/13 12:27 AM
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why do you think girls see you as a loser? are you certain this is their view, or do you just see the way you view yourself in how they act around you? when you say "stay in my bubble", what do you mean? explain that to me if you don't mind. do you actually enjoy the game? do you enjoy seducing girls? or is it something you think you just have to do to get what you want? do you really even want to get laid? or do just like the social narrative of "being a guy that can get girls"? sorry for all t…
/r/seduction14/03/13 11:15 PM
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what's with the defeatist attitude? you're not wasting my time, and you're only a loser if you choose to be defeated. why make that choice? can you only enjoy sex if it's with a girl you care about? that shouldn't be the case, & if it is, fucking girls who seem to mean nothing to you is probably exactly what you need to do. anyway, good luck. get out of the house more.
/r/seduction14/03/13 10:56 PM
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You're missing my point. Your goal isn't to be disinterested. You can show her your interested. That's not the problem. The problem is you're attached to the outcome, and your behavior is contingent upon how you think she'll react if you don't act the "right" way. The girls that you weren't attracted to liked you not because you were disinterested, but because you didn't have a particular outcome in mind retro-selecting your behavior.
/r/seduction14/03/13 10:35 PM
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There are some nuances here I think we need to touch on. You shouldn't be acting any way at all. You don't act to attract women. That's manipulative. And it's not necessarily true that women only respond to guys that are disinterested. You can show her interest. The problem you're having is that you behave differently around women you are attracted to & women that you aren't. There should be no difference in the ways you behave around either group. If you want to show interest to a girl you're a…
/r/seduction14/03/13 09:29 PM
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I think you should question why you want that. If your goal is to get something from them, then acting may suit you best. But building game around the principle of acting to get what you want is not only ineffective, but creepy & manipulative. You shouldn't have to act to coax "what lies beyond the exterior" out of a person.
/r/seduction14/03/13 09:12 PM
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Consider the difference in how you act around women you want to score with & women you don't care about. It's not some mystery, there's a great reason why this happens.
/r/seduction14/03/13 08:42 PM
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Let's say you're buying a pair of shoes. You go to the department store, try a pair on and like them. Instead of repackaging them and carrying them around with you, it's often acceptable to just wear them right after you buy them. The joke is that no matter what he might be buying - carton of milk, grapfruit, gum - he doesn't need a bag because he'll "wear it out".
/r/seduction10/03/13 03:47 PM
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for starters, you also don't have to have sex with a girl. you don't have to do anything if it's your choice not to. losing your virginity is sort of like being exiled. because there's so much societal burden to get rid of it, it's like being exiled on a quest & forbidden return until you've completed it. well look dude, you don't have to do shit. so let's shed the needless pressure. and you're right. it's not like porn.
/r/seduction10/03/13 04:02 AM
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You may not realize this but when you reference 3rd base and say So far it's been either I'm feeling good or the girl is at any given time in all likelihood, it's not as see-sawy as you think. for instance, some girls really like giving head. they literally get off on knowing they control so much power with your penis in their mouth, because being responsible for why you feel so damn good makes them feel powerful (or sexy etc). the same can be said about guys that like eating vag. You don't do i…
/r/seduction10/03/13 03:50 AM
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Can I ask in particular what's intimidating about it? There are multiple components here that I could see being intimidating, and I know how I would have felt reading this when I was a virgin. So maybe I can pick your brain a bit
/r/seduction09/03/13 09:29 PM
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first thought was that you may have an attention deficit disorder of sorts. if it's really something inhibiting how you relate with people i guess you could talk to the MD about it. second thought was even if these thoughts are hijacking your attention, find a way to be congruent to them. if she's boring as hell & you wondering about truth serum, cut her off & start talking about truth serum. it's your date. she's with you as a reward. that's self amusement. it may be rude, but you stand a bette…
/r/seduction07/03/13 02:22 PM
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it's pretty interesting. probably the most fundamental tenet of game is congruence. when guys start learning about game they understandably try to apply what they study & their behavior sends mixed signals, or it just doesn't have the authenticity of someone who isn't trying. they may be applying things the right way, it's just not congruent to their whole character yet. so at least for awhile, they may actually get weaker results. the girls in these scenarios slept with us because we were congr…
/r/seduction07/03/13 03:25 AM
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Your breath stinks because you don't drink enough water. I can almost guarantee that. And really, unless your breath is so bad that people around you are thinking you're sick or something, it's probably fine. Breath never really smells great, it either reeks or it's just a mild odor. In my experience, it's never been an issue. Last girl I was with, & this isn't uncommon, would get super horny in the mornings when we'd wake up. We'd make out, sex, cuddle, do all that jazz with horrible morning de…
/r/seduction06/03/13 01:53 PM
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had my first kiss & lost my virginity at 21. didn't plan it, didn't expect it. girl pretty much came out of no where. after the fact, i found out she thought i was super experienced, when in reality, i had no clue what the fuck i was doing. sometimes you have to proactively make shit happen for yourself, other times, shit just happens to you. turns out this chick had had a thing for me for well over a year, even before i even knew what pick-up & seduction were.
/r/seduction06/03/13 01:46 PM
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Look at it this way, whether you admit it to yourself or not, moving cross country for any girl is a pussy move. That's on you. & fyi, she's being a cunt because her guy uprooted his life to go live with her. it's not really the slickest move.
/r/seduction06/03/13 02:34 AM
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why would you look for anything besides attraction & sex? if those don't matter until after the date, why not just swap resumes? ideally neither party has time to waste on dates with strangers they aren't attracted to. so if you're going to use texting to build attraction, generalizing a strategy around asking questions isn't going to work. that's all i'm saying; though i wouldn't advice building attraction via texting anyway.
/r/seduction05/03/13 09:59 PM
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well, "be confident" means nothing if you don't know what identifies a confident guy. i'm assuming you don't if that's illusory advice to you. here's confidence: congruent to thoughts/words/actions meaning you say what you think & do as you say. guys that aren't congruent to what they do, are, for example, guys that try to project confidence, but don't fill in the gaps so to speak. they convey insecurity in their micromannerisms - their eyes, the openness of their torso & body, the intonation in…
/r/seduction05/03/13 09:23 PM
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you're doing it right.
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:52 PM
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you can't always get away with this. if you're putting that much thought into every text you're going to come off as fake & outcome dependent. she doesn't always have to be impressed.
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:51 PM
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input bias. in other words, you're telling guys to take a massive interest in all the little details that make her tick, right? what girl doesn't love that? shit. i'd love girls interviewing me all day as if i were some sort of demigod. the problem with this approach is that you're assuming that she's already attracted to him, or that he's even demonstrated he can be attractive already. you don't build attraction by asking questions, and this is why texting is a trap. a guy can figure out all of…
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:48 PM
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OP is giving some of the worst advice you could ask for, i hope you didn't say that. just be genuine. set up a date or an activity e.g coffee, hang out with some of you & some of your friends for a bit.. whatever. don't you dare say some cheesy bullshit with a winky face.
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:43 PM
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if you're not happy with how much effort she's putting into responding to you, why reply at all? acknowledging to her that you don't approve of her being busy or blowing you off (or that she's just not interested) is basically the same thing a baby does when it's hungry & nobody's feeding it. it's childish & needy. when you say it's a shit test, i'm not sure if you're referring to your ignoring her, or her "alright that's fine" response. either way, you're fucked. if she's giving you bored one-l…
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:39 PM
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texting is a necessary part of relationships in 2013. that's just how it is. but it should not be a staple part of how guys rely on attracting women & building rapport. it proactively makes you less & less valuable to her, it's high risk if she misunderstands you, it encourages outcome dependence (anticipating favorable responses, anticipating when she'll reply, anticipating what she'll think of what you said), consequently it encourages neediness, and teaches her that you have nothing better to…
/r/seduction05/03/13 08:30 PM
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No. No, no no. So many other posts I've flipped through summarize texting as unimportant, or merely a tool to schedule and confirm a date. This is correct. The vast majority of girls LOVE texting FREQUENTLY. They do it all day long with their friends. Of course they do, who wouldn't love someone busting their ass all day sending funny pictures and trying to make them laugh? The more you text, the more you reduce yourself to an object of attention and social proof. It's not as simple as "Girls li…
/r/seduction05/03/13 04:42 AM
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Someone already said meditation, and they're right. The trick with meditating isn't to not think anything; that's impossible, but rather to have no attachment to your thoughts. You should be able to watch your thoughts float in & out of your head in the same way you can sit back and watch a nerve in your hand twitch. You are not your thoughts, and so you should be able to "watch" yourself think without any attachment to what you're actually thinking. Figuratively, this separates the "self" from …
/r/seduction26/02/13 04:40 AM
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well part of seduction & pickup is being able to build attraction with just about any girl you choose, and developing that buyer's complex. it's not just sexing random women. they don't have to be random. in that regard, there's something here for just about any guy. also, what is "meaningful" to you?
/r/seduction25/02/13 04:50 AM
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I see. Well just to keep things clean, cut, and dry, if you're exceptionally ugly, cold-approach pickup will be exceptionally difficult. It may be time to really review what you can expect to get out of this. I'm just assuming that all of these approaches have been cold-approaches i.e. pretty much woman you don't know at all? Most relationships (& most sex from what I can tell) occur between friends of friends. What kind of outlets are there for you to meet women by associate like that? Cold app…
/r/seduction23/02/13 02:15 AM
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Alright let's talk social proof. Do you always go out alone?
/r/seduction23/02/13 01:31 AM
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Well, to be brutally honest here fellow, it sounds like you're biting off more than you can chew then, because either your appearance really is putting you at a deficit here or your insecurity about it is. I don't know which. On the one hand, I honestly do not feel like appearance makes that much of a difference while insecurity certainly does, but on the other hand, exceptions exist & if those are the cards you're dealt, then you need to re-prioritize. I wouldn't stop approaching, but if your p…
/r/seduction23/02/13 01:10 AM
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I'd say it depends on what skills you're trying to practice. Clubs can be extremely hard or extremely easy. Bars are a more moderate experience. Clubs are noisy and can make verbal rapport difficult so you're forced to tune into body language more. They're also more vibrant so you may have issues keeping her attention, she may be more prone to just walking off into the crowd, she or her friends may be more aggressive, etc.. It's a more volatile climate than a pub/bar. The plus side though, is th…
/r/seduction23/02/13 12:52 AM
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I think you're thinking about this too mechanically. Just accept the compliment and flirt/escalate as usual. She opened you, you don't have to prove anything to her. She likes you. If you get fixated on what she said or "what do I say next"? You're going to creep her out. Just talk, flirt, and escalate when you can.
/r/seduction23/02/13 12:43 AM
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Sounds like you're either approaching the wrong women, or you're coming off as "too invested". I say the wrong women, because club/bar girls who have a whole building full of other guys to choose from (read as: wait for) will generally discriminate more based on looks. If you're not appealing to them quickly, you're not that important. Whereas girls in more thoughtful places may reciprocate more. When I say you may be too invested, I mean you need positive feedback too much. Guys that put in as …
/r/seduction23/02/13 12:27 AM
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I'm guessing the whole acting-offended-for-obviously-being-perceived-as-a-bartender thing & then recovering with a "good point". It's not exactly A-game smooth-talking. Ironically though, as lame as that is, over-thinking the dialogue is probably where most guys get stuck anyway. If he was congruent to it, that's all that matters. But for the sake of reading material, it's presented as if the specifics of the dialogue were important to his success. I doubt that's true. The congruence is what got…
/r/seduction04/02/13 08:11 AM
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depends on the tone. pressuring guys away from aggression is why most are too scared to escalate anyway. i'd rather let them make the call with the girl their with than spook them into being mild because it's "safer". even if he was too aggressive, she handled it herself, he responded, and everything worked out fine.
/r/seduction14/01/13 03:44 PM
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Oh well yeah I bet she went home confused about a lot of things. It's clear between all of us that, yeah, it was a date, but did he escalate though? It's just as likely she went home thinking she just made a weird new friend.
/r/seduction10/01/13 05:53 PM
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Here's where the word "act" comes into play. Even though she was a rank bitch the whole night, displayed miserable values, and generally just annoyed the fuck out of him at every step, SHE WAS CONGRUENT to her natural character. She wasn't acting confident. She IS confident. She actually is just a rank bitch with no perspective. She wasn't acting. It wasn't a schtick to seduce him. She wasn't trying to seduce him, and more than that, a girl like that doesn't NEED to seduce him. She has guy's on …
/r/seduction10/01/13 03:37 PM
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Dude, others have already said it. She was the man here. This entire thing has been an effort to show her your value. She said whatever the fuck she wanted, unapologetically, the whole night & you rewarded her for it. You say you called her out every time she sounded nuts, but did you really? Did you convey your disgust with her the same way you have with us? You bitched at her for checking her phone around you, exactly as a girl would bitch at a guy for the same reason. Everything that she did,…
/r/seduction10/01/13 03:26 PM
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Text game is the same as any other type of game. Convey value, self-amuse, be aloof, freedom from outcome, don't be needy, etc.. None of this changes just because the medium changes. It's not like an attractive texter and an attractive man are conveyed differently. Wasn't a very insightful article. Seems like it was written by a "natural" who hasn't ever really critically thought much about game.
/r/seduction28/12/12 07:22 AM
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The fact women can find 'bad boy' types attractive in the first place is what is illogical. There isn't any illogical about that at all. "bad boy" is just a persona, but the characteristics that we identify with him are attractive traits. maybe i'm still misunderstanding you, but I don't see the fallacy here. The fact 'most' women cannot differentiate confidence versus overconfidence is what is biologically illogical What differentiates confidence from overconfidence? Explain the term biological…
/r/seduction04/12/12 04:48 AM
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be unapologetic be self assuming assume all women are attracted to you. have high self-value speak slowly, but not necessarily softly. be deliberate, without fear of being abrasive act towards your own fulfillment The last one embodies all of them. Acting towards your own fulfillment means you say what you want because you think it's funny, because you think its interesting etc.. This applies to what you do, where you go, who you bring. Be at the cause, not the effect of everything. When people …
/r/seduction03/12/12 09:48 PM
2

There's a logical reason for every emotion.
/r/seduction03/12/12 09:29 PM
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Circumventing accountability is a learned behavior.
/r/seduction03/12/12 09:26 PM
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Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaftxHzsHL8 Circumvent this dilemma in every instance of meeting a girl from now on. Always relate man to woman, establish sexual energy from the very beginning, get it in your head that you are no longer under any circumstances "friends" with women. It is ALWAYS better to escalate & risk her recoiling than to waste your time being mild & confusing.
/r/seduction03/12/12 11:33 AM
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Alright I'm not on the cold-shower circle jerk bandwagon more than anyone else here, but just a couple things: 1.) One study from 1991 doesn't completely invalidate the conversation. 2.) That's a report of what hormones were doing during stimulation, what do they do after? I'm just curious. 3.) You're not taking the cold shower to increase testosterone, the point of the other thread was more towards it being a mental exercise i.e. training yourself to tolerate discomfort.
/r/seduction26/11/12 06:14 AM
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What is a "front pocket"?
/r/seduction25/11/12 10:27 AM
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Sign up on myfitnesspal & hold yourself to eating a set number of a calories a day. You don't even have to start lifting yet, just eat. Every meal will feel like you're accomplishing something. Everything you eat is you getting closer to your goal. Progress can be addictive. If you need to take smaller steps than the next guy, who gives a shit, take smaller steps. Then start lifting when you feel up to it. Though I would recommend sooner than later; building muscle takes years after all. Gym anx…
/r/seduction12/11/12 02:24 AM
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If you're a physically unfit, unattractive male with an unflattering physique & she's still intent on having sex with you, that won't change once your cloths are off. It means that you were doing something even more important right. Women respond more to dominance & behavior than they do appearance. Being attractive is just sort of an incentive for them to stick around until you prove your dominance or alpha behaviors. Appearance isn't a make-it-or-break sort of thing unless she literally doesn'…
/r/seduction11/11/12 07:44 AM
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Caveat. Someone's going to read this and believe that this feat alone will win her affection. It won't. You better be doing a bunch of things right to compensate for this general wrong, otherwise she's going to take the ego boost, but her respect for you will silently dissipate and before she herself even understands it, she'll be forgetting to reply to your texts and'll be thinking of other guys. The other guys are the ones that didn't give her validation via flowers. After all, why work for yo…
/r/seduction08/11/12 09:27 AM
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What's the objective here? I'm genuinely curious to know what this is supposed to accomplish.
/r/seduction31/10/12 07:32 AM
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Absolutely man, no problem, hope some of that helps. I wish i could internalise such stuff and remember it when needed though. You and me both. It's a lot to remember, but the more exposure you get to the "right" way to do this, the less of a chore it is. It'll be shaky at first, but once you fail enough you'll get the reference experience to build a strength out of it. You just can't be afraid to go out and fail. The main difference between guys that get this and the ones that don't, is that th…
/r/seduction20/10/12 10:31 PM
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Some tips in no particular sequence: Generally slow everything you do down. Walk slower, speak slower, react slower, don't be afraid to hold a gaze. Open your posture - keep your chin up, eyes up, shoulders back, arms down, weight on your heels. Consider the opposite of all of those behaviors & you'll realize all this is doing is making you "larger" & less tense in the space that you occupy. These are confident postures. Move deliberately, command your space, don't fidget. When you see someone y…
/r/seduction20/10/12 09:35 PM
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I'd rather learn from someone who's been fucked up and pulled through than someone who's never been fucked up and sells their product anyway. RSD isn't for everyone, but that's just kind of an absurd reason not to give their material a chance.
/r/seduction16/10/12 10:34 PM
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I actually prefer RSD over other gamers because their information can seem contradictory. As for the hard-case newbie owning up to how bad he sucks, & simultaneously willing himself to feel entitled & "good enough", I think it just seems like there's a contradiction. How bad he sucks isn't barring him from being entitled, it's just barring him from his potential. Him being entitled may be barring him from admitting he sucks, but he can admit he sucks and be entitled at the same time. Then as far…
/r/seduction16/10/12 08:15 PM
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Walking up and saying 'Hi' for no reason triggers the defenses No it doesn't. Insecure or threatening body language triggers the defenses. What you say to her doesn't matter, hardly ever. It's how, not what you say. 'Hi' is boring as hell anyway. Imagine a guy coming up to you and asking how your day is. You'd think he were about to ask you for spare change I've never been approached by a hobo who didn't have an enormous twisting story to go along with why he only needs $43.05 to buy medication …
/r/seduction15/10/12 03:25 PM
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nevertheless, even modifying it is still him trying to create a circumstance where it's "okay" for him to talk to her. he's basically casting himself in a role where he's "good enough" to demand her attention & then acting towards it. that's why i don't like this fixation in game with "lines" and "openers". they just create one more obstacle you'll have to be congruent to. Hi works just as fine.
/r/seduction15/10/12 05:05 AM
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Few things: only applies to men who actually do have younger sisters they're shopping for, or men who would say anything to get ahead with women. this isn't an opener, this is a excuse to talk to her. they're different. burning a bridge with a woman is a no-no, even girls you only plan on fucking once. opening with a lie (unless you're a part of the tiny demographic who wouldn't have to) will just set things up badly for you later.
/r/seduction15/10/12 12:27 AM
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I don't care. Nobody does. Only reason anyone would remember these social snags is because everyone's been conditioned to recoil when there's a "mistake", some more than others apparently.
/r/seduction13/10/12 07:40 AM
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yes precious, we wants it
/r/seduction13/10/12 12:34 AM
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destroy the internet.
/r/seduction12/10/12 09:18 PM
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Well TIL that I never forget how awkward people are. I still remember when people fart in class - i'm in my twenties now. I still remember how awkward people are in conversation, and even the wording they may have slipped up on, I still remember when people make jokes that nobody laughs at. Yeah, that crap sticks with me for some reason. So pretending like it just disappears doesn't erase the problem, because someone will remember. But rather than relying on that headspace to give you confidence…
/r/seduction12/10/12 09:14 PM
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for thousands of dollars? nah
/r/seduction05/10/12 03:55 AM
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25 minutes in & she hasn't really said anything pragmatically useful. she's spoken of techniques to identify negative emotions & thought patterns, but hasn't yet spoken of what the technique to eradicate them is or how to do it. the rest of this first half was just her qualifying herself by reinforcing that the fact that she's a buddhist nun doesn't mean she can't think rationally. now, I'm no buddhist, but I do meditate & the subject matter she's speaking about i've become, dare i say, familiar…
/r/seduction05/10/12 03:30 AM
1

wear a black shirt and wear white pants instead. white underwear. or only white socks. forget the shirt and pants. and underwear.
/r/seduction20/09/12 02:08 AM
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This put me in both a horrible mood and a hopeful one.
/r/seduction13/09/12 01:26 AM
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The man that seduced her and the man that she'll learn you to be after living with you better be the same guy, because if there's any incongruence in your character, she's going to wake up one day and wonder who the fuck she's sleeping next to. Just be careful with how much game she's used to seeing from you before you invite her to live with you. You don't want the seduction-you to be a 24/7 job, know what I mean?
/r/seduction12/09/12 12:19 AM
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