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Edu./Occu.hottake_toothache/r/MensRights08/08/17 03:04 AM
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It's really interesting, isn't it? Two theories I am are aware of are: (1) women constantly try to sabotage other women't relationships. (See Dani Sulkowski's work on "manipulative reproductive suppression."), and (2) women naturally want to share the top tiny percentage of men, and they are rebelling against the social convention that says they should pair bond with normal men.
/r/MensRights22/07/26 08:40 PM
1

Put simply, people don't care about men.
/r/MensRights22/07/26 03:54 PM
3

Protest is welcome, but I expect it will not work because people do not care about men. We can't make them care by begging.
/r/MensRights01/07/26 01:33 PM
8

I briefly met Angelucci. His name mean "angel." He was one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 10:30 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights30/06/26 07:16 PM
10

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 04:17 PM
4

But when conservatives ever bring up transgender it's, "Why are you obsessed with this tiny % of the population?"
/r/MensRights23/06/26 04:41 PM
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Women only think about the top handful of men, so, to them, it really looks like men are privileged and don't have problems.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 07:14 PM
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People don't care about men and thus don't care about men's issues. But it sounds more virtuous to pretend the issues don't exist than to overtly not care about them.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 03:17 PM
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I don't agree with this premise. If a man genetically has top 5% hair, he can grow it out and women will love it. I think it is more a function that women are ready to throw any man who isn't top tier in the garbage.
/r/MensRights06/06/26 03:14 PM
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People (and consequently ai) do not care about men.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 02:56 PM
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The reason you are feeling hate is that you have an idea of how women "should" behave that is not how they actually behave. You need to correct that wrong expectation. Of course, that expectation is also a big part of why you used to like women and be enthusiastic about them, so you can expect to shift more towards indifference. That is the appropriate endpoint, though it is natural that you would have some sour feelings along the journey.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 05:26 PM
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The world will just react to this as hantavirus not being as big a deal as they thought.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 03:56 PM
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But a handful of men are still succeeding, so that must be because men have unfair advantage. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 12:59 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 12:58 PM
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Only lawsuits will change this. It is important for people to keep screenshots of all this public admission of illegal discrimination. Bits of evidence like this win lawsuits.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 12:48 PM
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Godspeed. Go out and talk to people. Try to change things. Maybe it will work. If your experience is like mine, the way people react to you will convince you that change is impossible.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 12:38 PM
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You would be better served adapting to how thing are than in trying to change them because it won't work.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 12:49 AM
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It's going to be rough. There is a good chance that he is going start mirroring back the hatred that he receives in ways that will alienate you from him, but at least you will have some understanding of what's happening. Try to stay sympathetic. Imo, there is no reversing this. Women will always feel like men are privileged and need to be taken down a peg. This is due to a perceptual deficient in women. Specifically, women only fixate on the handful of guys at the top. They consider the remainde…
/r/MensRights19/05/26 01:06 PM
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Where does this concept of "deserving" come from?
/r/MensRights08/05/26 01:59 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights06/05/26 02:25 PM
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People don't care about men, and this honestly poses a major challenge to leftism. How can leftism function if people are not psychologically capable of having anything close to equal empathy and caring for others? If women are locked in to viewing most men as disposable, doesn't that extinguish any real hope for leftward orientation?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 12:50 PM
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Been there.
/r/MensRights01/05/26 03:28 PM
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This stuff doesn't go away. It just becomes part of the evil lore that millions of women believe about men.
/r/MensRights01/05/26 03:17 PM
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It is already happening. The rising generation of men are 100x more aware of men's issues than any generation before. But they also understand that people don't care about men, and so public protest will not be effective. And they understand that men are disposable, and women will use their relational aggression to ostracize any man who rebels against disposability. This prevents a movement from coalescing in a traditional way. It will be more like quite quitting and downward spiral. It's sad, b…
/r/MensRights22/04/26 12:57 PM
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This is how it is now. Feminism has destroyed friendly relations between the sexes.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 12:54 PM
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Women want men to be born with it. Men just want women to look nice.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 06:26 PM
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IMO, you should get it out of your head the men and women "should" be treated the same. It will never happen. Learn to live with the differences.
/r/MensRights15/04/26 05:28 PM
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Trust what you observe, not what society tells you to believe.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 08:03 PM
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The mainstream has been demonizing and rejecting the MRM since long before the rest of the manosphere arose. You can find interview of how publishing The Myth of Male Power derailed Warren Farrell's career. Or watch the video of him being protested at U of Toronto. The issue is not the edgier parts of the manosphere casting a bad light. The issue is that people do not care about men and will cast shame and craft threat narratives whenever confronted with men's concerns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 07:28 PM
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Thanks for the encouragement! Here is the other episode. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/oqh5m1semc5ky5jlfadyl/AJ-db4hlSmAmIIDHP-2YnhA?rlkey=3upr63fmfzp4fysccy6nuij7c&dl=0
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 01:16 PM
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I LOVE that someone else is bringing this up! Way back in 2018, for that's year's International Conference on Men's Issues, I wrote a MGTOW comic book based on "The Metamorphosis," where the main character realizes he has turned into an ant when his wife is pressuring him to have a baby with her. If you're curious, here's the first episode (origin story).[1] Please give some grace, understanding that it was 2018, and the discourse was different then. There is also a second, longer installment th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 08:09 PM
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I feel like this peaked a few years ago, but I agree that it is a thing.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 11:21 AM
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There is a lot of pretending that society cares about all groups equally but it isn't true. People do not care about men, and they do care about women. This is not cause for panic or depression, but it is a reason to adjust your life strategies.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 04:09 PM
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I think it is overblown. If an ordinary woman maintains herself, she will always, at every age, receive more positive attention and good will than a similarly situated man.
/r/MensRights07/03/26 03:48 PM
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I'm glad your mental health is improving.
/r/MensRights02/03/26 09:41 PM
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I want to love Dr. Dani, but her argument seems to me to have two big flaws: (1) It is not clear to me that there is an evolutionary advantage in preventing others from reproducing, especially when food/resources is not scarce. She seems to reject the usual evolutionary framing that fit genes lead to more offspring, and tries to replace it with the idea that fit genes result in a descendent population where that gene is present in higher percentage. These are subtly different. I see that the sec…
/r/MensRights02/03/26 07:58 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 03:20 AM
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"The Boy Crisis" and "The Empathy Gap" are good books. Also "Men Without Work."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/26 11:47 PM
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That's what I do.
/r/MensRights16/02/26 05:54 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights11/02/26 09:15 PM
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I wouldn't really call it a movement, but there were some innovative content creators who flew that flag, peaking really between 2015 and 2020. It got crushed because the online platforms banned MGTOW as a term. E.g., Reddit banned the r/ MGTOW. Now there are creators who use other branding, such as Better Bachelor, and the Free Agent Lifestyle. The core concept is developing a life that doesn't center women.
/r/MensRights09/02/26 09:01 PM
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Correct. We will never be equal. Don't sit around waiting for it.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 04:42 PM
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If you are waiting for the world to start viewing men as human beings and caring about needless cruelty directed towards us, you will die waiting. You need to update your understanding of how people are, rather than expecting them to change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 03:25 PM
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I doubt there is anything we can do. People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 06:07 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 02:33 PM
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Yep. That's how it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:10 PM
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This is a spiritual problem that you must either overcome, or continue to suffer. Being a man is great, even if you have been told otherwise. (Being a woman is also great. Life is a gift.)
/r/MensRights21/01/26 10:20 PM
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All the PC stuff is designed to turn the world into a social prison for men.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 07:06 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 06:47 PM
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Broadly, they do not believe that it is possible for men to ask for anything on an egalitarian basis, since people don't care about men. So they pursue other strategies that do not rely on people caring about us.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:58 PM
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Yes we should be worried.
/r/MensRights26/12/25 04:16 AM
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You are on the path. It is not until you start talking to women/feminists about men's issues that you start to really understand the problem. What you experienced will happen 99% of the time. They will talk about egalitarianism to virtue signal, but it is not what they really think. In fact, they believe in a hierarchy where women are the ones who matter and men are disposable. But don't just believe me. Keep talking to women/feminists and see for yourself.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 04:29 PM
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It's not hypocrisy; its hierarchy.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 03:51 PM
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That's because it is normal. I do not expect it to change. Be careful out there, gentlemen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 02:08 PM
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It is the world we live in. Sabrina is not what's important. She is a just a symptom. Be careful out there ,gentlemen.
/r/MensRights24/12/25 02:08 PM
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I have. With quite a few women. I have encountered one (a therapist) who was already aware of men's issues and was sympathetic. Other than that, none of them seemed at all open minded to the basic concept of having empathy for men.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 11:27 PM
1

Your observations sound accurate to me.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 07:15 PM
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Men MUST accomplish things to be valued in this world. Women are valued whether or not they accomplish things. (Blue-pillers tend to hear that statement as, "women cannot accomplish things," despite than not being at all what was said.)
/r/MensRights18/12/25 06:35 PM
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Once upon a time, I would have found this surprising and offensive. Finally, I've reached the level of alienation from society that I find it amusing.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 04:42 PM
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Take this as a learning experience. In my experience, something like that happens nearly any time men's issues are brought up in liberal spaces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/25 02:15 PM
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With my wife, she was unable to hear this stuff at all until the kids were pretty much grown. Then, she could get there a little bit--in the vein of her being worried she wouldn't get grandchildren. It is almost impossible to get women to understand men's struggles.
/r/MensRights10/12/25 09:11 PM
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They don't give any ground because they don't have to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 10:54 PM
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I think it is to be expected. People don't care about men. There may be occasional stories that go against trend, but there will always be reversion to the norm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 10:54 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights07/12/25 02:27 PM
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There are structural reasons we are mostly online. It is self-harm to publicly advocate for men when the only result is to be shunned and mocked and it was impossible to persuade people anyway because they don't care about men.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 02:16 PM
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People don't care about men. If you expect different you will be disappointed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 02:11 PM
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CGA gonna cook this guy on his show.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 03:52 AM
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Let me know when he advocates for re-establishing any of the explicitly male-only spaces that feminism has eliminated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/25 04:54 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:48 PM
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Women only think about the handful of men at the top--who, indeed, do have it easy. So, to them, men have it easy. (The other 80% of guys just don't matter and may as well fall of the Earth, as far as they are concerned.)
/r/MensRights12/11/25 01:23 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 01:21 PM
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Yes. This drives a lot of men to, essentially, hide in foxholes--which helps to achieve the feminist goal of silencing/diminishing men.
/r/MensRights05/11/25 02:10 PM
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I challenge you to try to finish this sentence without getting in trouble: "Women need to ...." It can't be done. (Not mine, this observation is from Alison Tieman)
/r/MensRights03/11/25 04:21 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights01/11/25 03:59 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights29/10/25 04:58 PM
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People don't care about men. I am confused about why you would have thought we were making progress in 2022. To me, there was only progress in the sense the men's-issues spaces were growing at at an enormous rate. And it is good that the truth has spread so much--but that won't make people start caring about men.
/r/MensRights27/10/25 07:08 PM
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I've known a few. They are around.
/r/MensRights23/10/25 08:11 PM
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All this is true--and it is what people have been saying in this space for 10 years, at least. It is good, finally, to see it getting a broader audience.
/r/MensRights23/10/25 01:59 AM
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> makes the Left look like a bunch of hypocrites Many such cases.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 01:05 PM
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This is one of many example of males being treated as the disposable sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 07:46 PM
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Remember that, in the end, if you are able to provide people something they value, you will not have a problem carving a space for yourself in this world. As a man, we cannot expect to be like. We can only get ahead by providing value.
/r/MensRights11/10/25 06:39 PM
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People don't care about men. They don't worry about all the short guys who these insults land on, because they don't care.
/r/MensRights09/10/25 06:47 PM
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So I guess men need to not trust women for the next few thousand years--since they are out for revenge.
/r/MensRights22/09/25 03:35 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 10:01 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights02/09/25 02:48 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights16/08/25 04:05 PM
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Women's orientation is towards filtering out all but top men. They do not mind circumstances that are harmful to men because it makes filtering easier. They choose the few men who succeed, despite them making success harder.
/r/MensRights14/08/25 01:52 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights10/08/25 08:19 PM
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People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 02:50 PM
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"safety"
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:22 PM
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People don't care about men. It is futile to even compare how society reacts to men's issues versus women's issues.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 09:44 PM
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Nice to see this study being done. The reason misandry is not considered a significant issue is that people don't care about men.
/r/MensRights26/06/25 05:46 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 07:18 PM
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Ha ha. I haven't received a response to my moral relativism point. All in all, it is pretty funny getting downvoted to saying the facts of life and getting responses that are like, "The facts of life hurt my feelings, you cowards." lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/25 12:25 PM
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This line of thinking would never ever fly if it was women who had to be treated disposably if group survival was in doubt. True. This just demonstrates that the assumption of same treatment between men and women is an incorrect assumption. Speaking of which, when was the last time that was actually the case? Exactly. It makes some sense to argue that we are not currently in circumstances that justify male disposability. (In my experience, watching how these argument are rejected becomes a lesso…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/25 08:24 PM
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In circumstances where group survival is threatened that tends to be right. A lot of men die and the survivors impregnate multiple women. That's the math.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/25 11:58 AM
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Are you making a moral relativism argument? I ask that since it sounds like you are calling valuing group survival an arbitrary "moral preference." Have I misunderstood your point? I was making a practical claim, not a moral one. We can scream as much as we want that practical reality does not line up with our moral preferences--but it is not a very effective strategy. If your position is moral relativism, then that makes my point even stronger. Why would anyone else listen to our moral claims, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 03:28 PM
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It just means I am not Don Quixote, charging after windmills.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 03:23 PM
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Yes. If group survival is in doubt then men will be treated more disposably than women. It is better to come to terms with reality than to insist that it bend to our moral preferences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 12:23 PM
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Oh, so there is a part of the brain that is labeled as only involving object identification? Does the brain's instruction manual say that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 01:42 PM
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Only women are capable of reforming feminism, and they won't.
/r/MensRights05/06/25 08:16 PM
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Good post. More broadly, a very large part of how women construe morality is to keep men in line and keep women winning. There is no philosophy behind it, just their emotional comfort.
/r/MensRights05/06/25 08:02 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights03/06/25 01:00 AM
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If only they would publish the statistics on how women set this! I doubt they will because it would be too much of a wake-up call.
/r/MensRights02/06/25 04:28 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights01/06/25 03:53 PM
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Female aggression does not repair.
/r/MensRights14/05/25 11:07 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/05/25 11:03 PM
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It is the world we live in, not just reddit.
/r/MensRights05/05/25 11:23 PM
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Preach! But, in answer to your question at the end of "when do we stop," and "who will be brave enough to hold it accountable," the answer as far as I can see are "we don't stop" and "it is not about bravery. Nobody is powerful enough to bring accountability." We need to adjust to this new normal.
/r/MensRights02/05/25 05:03 PM
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That's really sad. Women have been hounding out male spaces for decades and there are really none left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 03:07 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 03:38 PM
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Well put!
/r/MensRights18/04/25 08:16 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/04/25 02:57 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights18/04/25 12:55 PM
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Yep, it's stupid. Minecraft is an example of how men and boys are awesome. Feminists can't handle that.
/r/MensRights14/04/25 04:45 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights08/04/25 05:08 PM
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I don't talk about it anymore. That is after years of doing so and taking Ls--which, in of itself, was an eye-opening experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 01:02 PM
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People don't care about men and they find it repulsive that this sub does.
/r/MensRights08/04/25 01:00 PM
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It is mostly just shaming language intended to control men.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/04/25 03:14 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/04/25 06:51 PM
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This is a really good video. Sargon (Carl Benjamin) is an OG of the online men's issues space--even though he has never actually identified as part of the manosphere.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 02:06 PM
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People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 12:26 PM
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We are not at the end, or even at the beginning of the end.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 12:25 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 03:55 AM
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Idk if it is getting "worse." It's been terrible for quite a while. It is crazy, though, how women chase high-status men and then complain that their engagement with him cannot be consensual because he is high status.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 01:55 PM
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You sound just like the people you started with condemning. Your claim that, when men talk to each other about life experience, the "red pill," it's a pit of shit. What about the legitimate insights they are getting? What about they guys who genuinely benefit from it? Don't you think you are engaged in the shaming and demonization that you claim to be troubled by? Maybe men are better than you give them credit for.
/r/MensRights16/03/25 11:48 PM
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People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights12/03/25 01:33 PM
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It really is amazing.
/r/MensRights04/03/25 06:00 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights25/02/25 09:15 PM
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American Beauty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/25 02:57 PM
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Correct.
/r/MensRights21/02/25 02:00 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 02:31 PM
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People don't care about men and they receive the suggestion that we should as an attack on women.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 08:35 PM
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lol. You know so much about me /s. Stay triggered.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/25 04:24 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights05/02/25 09:25 PM
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It is real, in her mind. In order to understand women's perspective, you need to remember that they only think about the men at the very top. When asking whether their life is fair, that is who they compare it to. It feels unfair that to them that they need to keep up their appearance, whereas men are just attractive or not. Male looks are much more unchangable than female. The sad fate of men who are just not attractive doesn't register for them, because those men don't exist.
/r/MensRights05/02/25 01:54 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 11:34 PM
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The main pro-DEI argument has always been to call anyone who questions them racist. That's nothing new.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/25 04:22 PM
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People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights31/01/25 04:20 PM
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Nobody has the power to do anything. This is fated.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 09:08 PM
107

People do not care about men. Things will never be equal.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 02:38 PM
28

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 02:38 AM
4

It will never be the same because people care about women and do not care about men.
/r/MensRights23/01/25 08:57 PM
51

People do not care about men. Even when it is proven that this kind of thing happens, women will never consider it to be a significant problem.
/r/MensRights18/01/25 03:35 PM
31

It is to remind us that people do not care about men.
/r/MensRights13/01/25 10:33 PM
15

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights10/01/25 04:41 PM
4

Female supremacy is normalized in our culture.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 02:15 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights03/01/25 02:02 PM
19

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights01/01/25 11:33 PM
1

Good to see it.
/r/Male_Studies31/12/24 04:43 PM
94

He does a great job.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/24 05:55 PM
4

lol. Woman invites men to do something. Men agree. Women hate us. (Then again, they've been hating us since Eden, so nothing new.)
/r/MensRights16/12/24 03:33 PM
10

I feel you, man.
/r/MensRights13/12/24 03:03 AM
3

He's great.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/24 02:17 PM
12

Obviously, they do not want equality.
/r/MensRights29/11/24 07:58 PM
41

The evidence of anti-male bias is overwhelming. Society only doesn't acknowledge it because men are considered disposable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/24 01:43 PM
2

This is the world we live in. People do not care about men, and that is exactly how women want it.
/r/MensRights26/11/24 03:56 PM
7

Only the top 1% of men count, and they are obviously privileged because they are in the top 1%. The rest of us are sludge who go unmentioned.
/r/MensRights23/11/24 10:40 PM
40

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights15/11/24 02:59 AM
12

"Oh no, women are going to stop being positive towards men!" Yeah, we get it. It's been that way. Y'all were choosing the bear long before the election.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 05:51 PM
0

IMO opinion, it is important to personal growth to accept that this is just the way it is. It is one among many sad facts about life--and a fact that, now that you are aware of it, you can adjust your approach to life accordingly.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 01:09 AM
1

And multiple members of UNRWA have been demonstrated to be Hamas members. Sinwar had a UNRWA identification when he was killed. There were tunnel entrances below UNRWA offices. The UN is a joke.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:52 AM
3

I don't believe the numbers, anyway. They are being reported by Hamas controlled groups.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 11:55 PM
4

Disagree. It is part of the culture of man hating and it deserves to be called out.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 09:10 PM
2

It is not hypocrisy. It is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights07/11/24 04:10 PM
4

Keep your relationship with women in the workplace extremely perfunctory.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 07:18 PM
4

People don't care about men, but want to make women happy. It will never be the same.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 05:50 PM
11

The idea that men and women will ever be treated the same is a fantasy. People care about women and do not care about men. So naturally it is only the double-standards worse for women that are seen as a problem.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:19 PM
4

Honestly why do people hate men's rights movement too much People don't care about men, and they see efforts to make them care as distasteful.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 03:40 PM
3

As always.
/r/MensRights22/09/24 03:48 PM
5

People don't care about men. Abortion is a great example of this. People have so much sympathy for the ways an unplanned child will disrupt a woman's life. But for the man, nothing.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 08:22 PM
2

Right, because people enjoy looking at the male form as much as they enjoy looking at the female form. /s Sounds like a great opportunity for other studios to cash in by giving people what they want.
/r/MensRights15/09/24 08:37 PM
2

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 02:03 AM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights11/09/24 12:00 AM
113

Men give freely their approval, validation, and even love. Women give a lot of disapproval, and, very occasionally, approval. But somehow this is spun as virtuous for women and evil for men.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 06:59 PM
1

That's a fair point. My reluctance about the term "rights" is that it leaves a lot out.
/r/MensRights05/09/24 02:45 PM
8

Oops, I forgot, "The Red Pill" documentary by Cassie Jay. This is the obvious place to start. It is a well-made, movie-length documentary. The background is that Cassie was a feminist who set out to make a documentary debunking the "men's rights" movement[1], but instead became convinced that the movement had some reasonable points and was being unfairly silenced. (Tho [1] Don't get too caught up on the "men's rights" nomenclature. It is a bit dated at this point. I prefer "men's issues."
/r/MensRights04/09/24 08:46 PM
11

Thank you for being open minded. You will find that more and more men align with this viewpoint, though they tend to keep it secret because women emotionally punish them if they are honest. (Believe me, I speak from experience.) If you are interested in learning, there are two directions to go. (1) Books that scrutinize the feminist claim of male privilege. In short, if you look at the stats, men are far from privileged. This is difficult for women to recognize, because they tend to only think a…
/r/MensRights04/09/24 08:28 PM
1

People do not care about men, but care quite a lot about women.
/r/MensRights04/09/24 07:49 PM
19

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 11:54 PM
2

Women actively suppress the discussion because, from their point of view, men are privileged. Of course, that POV is a distorted lens where they only think about the top tiny fraction of men.
/r/MensRights02/09/24 12:29 PM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 12:27 PM
2

It will NEVER be enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 12:27 PM
42

The real "man/bear" question: "Guys, who would you rather tell your feelings to, a woman or a tree." Choose tree. This is an unfortunate truth that it took me years of marriage to understand. Women **want to think of themselves** as people men can open up to, but the truth is that they are guided by whether they feel the "ick," and hearing a man open up often causes them to lose attraction.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 05:14 PM
1

I would join.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/08/24 09:09 PM
57

It just sounds like some women who get off on reminding men that we are disposable.
/r/MensRights30/08/24 09:08 PM
28

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights30/08/24 03:30 PM
14

There is no developed literature on this topic because women frequently have negative emotion reactions to the idea of women doing bad and/or men needing help. I encourage you to continue down this path and watch how people respond to you. I am confident your experiences will corroborate my explanation.
/r/MensRights30/08/24 12:17 PM
-4

There are so many of them, but since you asked for on, Ben Shapiro.
/r/MensRights29/08/24 06:19 PM
7

Makes me sad to see the end of humanity... It's not likely to be the end of humanity, but the foreseeable future will look a lot different from the recent past.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 12:32 PM
15

I don't trust them to define either "extreme" or "misogyny."
/r/MensRights28/08/24 03:49 AM
3

I've been thinking about this stuff for a long time. Men want to make women happy. When they tell us to make room for them in the workforce, or to change the workplace to accommodate them, we try to do it. And when it becomes unfair to men, we don't speak up. Why not? Because speaking up would make women unhappy, and when they are unhappy their destructive power is real, and should legitimately be feared. The "mean girl" treatment means ostracism, gossip, and false allegations. Reputation destru…
/r/MensRights28/08/24 02:18 AM
3

Women are in the driver's seat now, and this trend will increase at least for the next 10 years due to young men doing poorly in comparison to women on many metrics. Something that is being revealed in this new world is that women are not interested in taking care of men, whereas men have an instinct to take care of women. There are going to be a lot of social realignments as this plays out. It will still be possible for individual men to thrive, but we need to be somewhat more guarded and cynic…
/r/MensRights27/08/24 07:11 PM
14

When I first started learning about this stuff, I also clung to the belief that talking to women about it might be productive. It took me a few years, but eventually I learned that those discussions were counter-productive. It is better to operate in other ways.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 06:35 PM
3

People don't care about men. This extends to male suicide. The people making these marketing campaigns are trying to create a sympathetic emotional response, which means that they pretty much have to use women. It is not an exaggeration to say that a normal person's reaction to the fact that approx. 75% of suicides are males is, "That's a relief. I would hate to think that so many women were suffering and dying."
/r/MensRights27/08/24 03:03 PM
11

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 01:21 PM
287

People don't care about men, but women must always be supported.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 12:50 PM
89

do something more. In other words, I don't know what you could do, but I'm blaming you anyway.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 11:53 AM
33

Suddenly, it's "hard"? Funny how when men were doing it they got no sympathy.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 11:51 AM
43

It sounds like you have a pretty good grasp of how things actually are. You are also correct that reality conflicts with the left-wing view of how things "should" be. Unfortunately, men complaining about this imbalance won't work because the men doing that will be ostracized. And men are disposable so that, once few women have declared that a man has the "ick," that guy is essentially unpersoned. Knowing is just the first step. The next one is figuring out how to adjust your life strategies to a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 12:18 AM
2

No woman wants to provide for a man. Given this asymmetry--where men want to give money to women while women are repulsed at the idea of doing similar--perhaps there was some societal logic in having men be the ones who earn money. To doubt this, you would have to not believe that humans (like all advanced lifeforms) survive through a symbiotic relationship between male and female.
/r/MensRights24/08/24 07:31 PM
6

That's how it is, and I expect it to get worse. We need to adapt our life strategies accordingly.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 06:40 PM
35

How do those posts get 100s of thousands of likes? How do thousands of women agreeing to something like that? The question answers itself. Your confusion stems from disbelief that women could really be like that. If you want to dispel that disbelief, I recommend talking to some women in your life about men and gender issues. That should give you an idea of how disposable they consider us to be.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/08/24 02:27 PM
1

"Some bs" is an apt way to describe a lot about the current situation.
/r/MensRights21/08/24 12:26 AM
37

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 09:02 PM
7

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights20/08/24 02:38 PM
2

That's fair. Maybe I did take it wrong. It is so easy to make snap judgements on the internt.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 08:08 PM
3

That's really interesting. I would love to see updated numbers, if they exist.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 08:07 PM
23

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 07:24 PM
11

Of course, it is helpful. The experience of being a man is distinct in many ways from being a woman, and therapists should be informed of these differences and the issues arising from them. The article is pretty dumb. As the therapist mentioned earlier illustrated, psychotherapy for men is often misunderstood as solely addressing "men's issues." That is silly. Just because "men's issues" is a valid construct does not mean that all of the issues men have are distinctly "men's issues." The term "m…
/r/MensRights19/08/24 07:10 PM
20

A mass shooting in Plymouth in 2021 by 22-year-old Jake Davison, who killed five people before fatally shooting himself, was linked to Incel ideology. By "linked to Incel ideology," they mean, "Done by a guy who was sad that women weren't choosing him." In other words, a guy experiencing a fairly universal part of the male experience.
/r/MensRights19/08/24 01:15 PM
8

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 08:20 PM
5

Women only think about the handful of men at the top, which makes it very difficult for the to conceive of sympathy for men. All the men they think about are doing really, really well.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/08/24 09:36 PM
1

The usual pattern in these cases is that the women get drunker than they intended and then claim to have been drugged.
/r/MensRights16/08/24 01:44 PM
1

I totally support and encourage you being vocal. However, I believe that direct communication/conversation is useless (likely even counter-productive) for most men. Much more effective is being able to credibly and effectively withdraw from the situation. This means not over-committing to any particular situation (whether that be a job or a relationship), and building up your options so that you can can jump ship to another promising situation if you are unhappy with the current one. If others k…
/r/MensRights16/08/24 12:37 PM
10

Feminist lies never die. It **feels** real to them, because they only think about the most successful men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 05:18 PM
7

Women don't marry (or get divorced from) men whose lives suck. In jail, homeless, poor, unemployed, low-level job? Any of these and you are probably both sad and unmarried. It's an example of, correlation does not mean causation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 05:15 PM
4

"I will keep blaming you until you do something that is literally impossible for you to do."
/r/MensRights15/08/24 05:13 PM
4

I am not standing up for Brookings, only noting that they are part of elite culture.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 04:19 PM
9

That's actually pretty great news. The main thing that annoys me about Reeves is that his book is basically a recitation of facts that people in the men's-issues space have been shouting about for years, but, instead of crediting their work, Reeves brushes them off like a bunch of losers. I guess it's different when he says it, because he is an elite at the Brookings Institute.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:54 PM
17

I'm there with you. Back then, it felt possible to have a positive shift in the public consciousness. Now, it looks like men are just going to be viewed as disposable, and women are going to drive society off a cliff. It all feels inevitable.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:11 PM
5

No doubt.
/r/MensRights14/08/24 01:09 PM
22

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/24 11:11 AM
16

It is a deep psychological truth. Men try to make women happy, but women do not reciprocate. In nature, women are the "choosers" and men cater to them. In circumstances of legal equality, this translates to an engine that drives ever more attention and concern to women's issues, while men's issues get ignored. This is likely to keep getting worse.
/r/MensRights13/08/24 09:48 PM
3

100%
/r/EverydayMisandry13/08/24 12:29 PM
7

We're used to it. These days, before turning on any recent movie or tv show, we need to ask ourselves, "Am I up for watching men be shit upon right now?"
/r/EverydayMisandry13/08/24 12:26 PM
42

Yep, that's normal. Disagree with a woman's politics and she is likely to say that you must be an abuser.
/r/MensRights12/08/24 04:43 PM
2

When a child has a sexual experience, the impact is not just whether they were enthusiastic at the time. (Both boys and girls can be enthusiastic participants.) They are not ready to emotionally take on the event and it can end up creating an imprint/obsession that has a disproportionate impact on their later life and sexual development.
/r/MensRights12/08/24 04:35 PM
15

Women find it easy to have standards because men try to make them happy. Men having standards is difficult because women don't care what we think. In other words men's only leverage it to withdraw.
/r/MensRights12/08/24 04:24 PM
5

Yes, that is how they think.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 04:33 PM
1

There are structural reasons why men don't fight for their rights. (1) Men would be advancing a position that draws no sympathy (because people don't care about men), and (2) men are disposable and if a woman decides that he gives of the "ick" then other women will jump on the bandwagon and dehumanize him. It is not that we are too lazy, etc., to object to our demonization. It is that we actually lack leverage. This is why walking away must be the primary strategy.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 01:13 PM
3

Sadly, we are going to have to get used to it. Women will increasingly be in positions of power in our society and we see plainly from their rhetoric and behavior that they do not see men as deserving of basic human consideration. Stay safe out their, brothers.
/r/MensRights08/08/24 08:38 PM
2

People don't care about men. That's just the way it is.
/r/MensRights08/08/24 07:49 PM
0

Great article.
/r/MensRights08/08/24 02:54 PM
0

Has been for a while.
/r/MensRights08/08/24 02:30 PM
45

It's wonderful that your dad was able to be there for you in that conversation! Very few women have ever thought about the fact that the world doesn't care about men. (It doesn't feel true to them because they only think about the few men at the top.)
/r/MensRights06/08/24 07:30 PM
3

People don't care about men, and thus do not care about our issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 03:57 PM
2

Why are short men more likely to commit suicide The answer is obvious. Can it be that our society ignores heightism Perhaps there are limits to what "society" can productively address.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/24 01:27 PM
15

Too bad she didn't understand what feminism was before raising him in it.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:42 PM
1

This is how society feels about men.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 03:35 PM
3

The way it is used, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 12:55 PM
3

I won't hold my breath.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 12:54 PM
5

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 08:24 AM
6

Because people don't care about men. Abortion is a great example. Look at the hand-wringing about how an unwanted child disrupts a woman's life, and contrast it to the total lack of caring for the man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/24 08:23 AM
6

Look at the "Brat" concept that is popular with women now[1], and even embraced by the Harris presidential campaign. A female fantasy is to be awful, yet loved anyway. This is well captured in LOTR when Galadrial is offered the Ring of Power and reveals her fantasy, "All will love me and despair." (She knows herself well enough to not accept the ring.) [1] Sorry for the paywall, but see here: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/brat-summer-charli-kamala-harris-27a97c54?mod=hp_trending_now_article_pos2
/r/MensRights27/07/24 03:41 PM
3

I recommend https://www.subscribestar.com/regarding-men. It is an online community for men interested in men's issues. Apart from that, I don't know of anything. Male spaces have been systematically destroyed over the last 50 years. Because men love women so much, we have lacked the foresight to see that some places need to be male only.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 01:58 PM
42

The man is considered impure/unclean, while the woman is pure. So a woman touching a man is not a violation, but the reverse is. It is not hypocrisy. It is hierarchy. They do not believe in the idea that a uniform standard should apply to men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/24 03:22 PM
8

People don't care about men, or even boys.
/r/MensRights16/07/24 03:13 PM
5

I can relate. It sounds like your expectation from the world is not matching with your experience of it. Maybe it's time to adjust your expectations. I don't mean this in a harsh way. It is just that life as a man requires a lot of stoicism. The biggest psychological breakthrough to me was realizing that it actually //wouldn't matter if they cared//. I mean, it i not like their caring would be some kind of umbrella or absolution. Frankly, opening up often means that you get a moment of them ackn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 04:20 PM
20

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights12/07/24 07:21 PM
7

It is indispensable advice.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 06:36 PM
25

No. People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 04:52 PM
7

You said it well.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:59 PM
17

I didn't make it up. It's been going around. I love it too.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:23 PM
10

Thank you--but you don't have to worry about me. I'm doing great. It is amazing how much my life has improved since, about five years ago, when I realized that I was expecting women to be something they are not.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:12 PM
95

The perfect rejoinder to the "bear" meme is for men: "Who would you rather tell your feeling to, a woman or a tree." That is true facts.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 01:27 PM
19

I can relate.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 12:50 PM
9

Disturbing, but my observations agree.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 01:03 PM
20

They revile men, so that don't want to hear a single nice word about them.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 05:00 PM
1

That movie is solid gold! The Barbies never cared about the Kens. When they want to subvert the Kens, they do it by taking advantage of the genuine love the Kens have for them. And yet the audience of women agrees with the Barbies. Study that movie, my dudes, to understand what you're dealing with.
/r/MensRights09/07/24 02:19 PM
24

Women have conflicted feelings about their own desires. They want to be desired (even objectified), but then recoil at themselves for this. They lash out at men because that feels better to them than taking accountability for their own role in the situation.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 04:15 PM
30

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 01:49 PM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 01:03 PM
12

Hypergamy, my dude. Women only think about the top fraction of men. They obsess over these men and are resentful that they don't get one--which they won't, because math is undefeated.
/r/MensRights07/07/24 10:09 PM
8

The "MRM" is mostly dudes (and some women) raising awareness that the hegemonic feminist narrative is false. The voices doing this are unaffiliated with each other and each doing it in their own way. I don't agree with everything that gets said, but it is a conversation that needs to happen.
/r/MensRights07/07/24 01:11 PM
1

That is a great answer.
/r/MensRights07/07/24 01:07 PM
13

The Barbie movie shows women being narcissists who are incapable of love--and the women of the world shouted, "Yes, that's us." I watched the whole thing and thought, "Yep, that's them." Ken is literally made for Barbie, but she has no interest in him. Instead, she is fascinated by her clothes and her hair, and looking in the mirror. She is so self-satisfied, until a thought comes into her head that she didn't plan for, and then her whole fragile house-of-cards attitude towards life comes crumbl…
/r/MensRights07/07/24 12:59 PM
7

This disagrees with my lived experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 01:56 PM
3

Are we just not allowed to say anything that even remotely implies that men could possibly have hardships in life? You can say them, but women will revile you. This tells you something about women.
/r/MensRights02/07/24 01:19 PM
4

Welcome. You are likely at the start of a long journey of discovery that will have many frustrating moment, but will ultimately lead to a clearer understanding of the world, and a greater capacity to move within it. Godspeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 04:02 PM
3

Women and feminists only think about the men at the very top. From their point of view, men should never complain because we are all rich and successful. The rest of us are below their notice.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 12:16 PM
5

Women only think about the handful of men at the top, so, from their perspective, men never deserve any sympathy. After all, to them, men are all rich and high-status. The rest of men simply are not on their radar screen and could drop dead, for all they care.
/r/MensRights27/06/24 01:52 PM
6

It's not true, but I don't know that there is any way to rebut it because a lot of people just hate men.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 04:39 PM
8

I agree. Sexual motivation is very deep and profound. It goes far beyond just "wanting sex."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 01:37 PM
3

My experience talking with women about these issues is that, for most of them, the idea of having empathy for men as a group simply does not compute. Tbh, my personal experience having many of these conversations has significantly updated my presupposition about what women are like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 02:42 PM
40

Yes, that's right. It is "Please, don't assume we are awful, even though we associate ourselves with men."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 12:03 PM
2

100% Forming men's groups is an essential part of the answer. The problem is that women use reputation-destruction to eliminate any male spaces, and male disposability makes men particularly vulnerable to this tactic.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 12:52 PM
28

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/06/24 12:22 PM
44

100% For men, feeling overlooked and uncared for tends to not be a cognitive distortion, but an accurate perception of male disposability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/24 12:12 PM
27

People don't care about men. I love that moms get appreciated but why don’t these people keep that same energy for dads? I have given up hope that there will ever be a time when men and women get equal care and empathy. What is the use in fixating on something that will never happen?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/24 09:58 PM
18

I'm shocked, shocked! Well, not that shocked.
/r/MensRights17/06/24 02:11 PM
4

People do not care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/06/24 02:10 PM
0

Yeah, what did white men ever do? /s
/r/MensRights13/06/24 09:05 PM
26

But from women's point of view, all the men in the past have been privileged (because the only think about the men at the top).
/r/MensRights13/06/24 02:43 PM
2

The left's demonization of men is not random. Rather, the left's spirit today is dominated by the feminine and the man hating is an expression of an often overlooked[1] drive of that spirit. [1] The overlooking is also not an accident. More to the point, the feminine actively suppresses discussion of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 02:42 PM
2

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 10:58 AM
52

It is not treated as bigoted because people don't care about men. It is not hypocrisy; it is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 10:53 AM
21

It has raided a sacred relationship in my life and poisoned the well. That is what feminist demonization of men does. Many of us have had personal relationships fractured by this garbage.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 10:52 AM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights10/06/24 03:11 PM
15

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights09/06/24 01:15 PM
5

You need to stop clinging to the idea you have about how men and women work. The mainstream story you were taught is steeped in male disposability at the "women are wonderful" effect. Just let it go. Once you let it go, your eyes will open to the many great options that are available in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/24 01:14 PM
24

I wish it wasn't true, but it is.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 02:06 PM
17

People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/06/24 02:05 PM
-1

We should support the truth. Men and women each have biological advantages. I do not support policing the discussion to shame people from saying what they believe is the truth, and their theories supporting their view.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 02:02 PM
7

Could you point me to what you are referring to? Of course, I am familiar with the broader left subscribing to female-superiority ideas, but I have not seen that within even the leftward side of the men's movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 01:44 PM
0

I've been there. It is so sad when you realize the truth. But don't let it define your life. It's like learning Santa Clause isn't real. Yes, you were lied to. Yes, you should adapt your life strategies. But the world still had lots of great opportunities and you can live a happy life.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:25 PM
91

most men will not become left wing anytime soon If the left stopped demonizing men, it would help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 12:19 PM
27

If only it were just feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 02:13 AM
79

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/24 08:25 PM
27

My biggest concern is that it is always stated that boys/men lack the skills to discuss their feelings. Great point. The reason men don't express their feelings is that, when we do, it ends up being counter-productive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/24 06:44 PM
8

There have been many over time. Typically, they make content for a few years and then move on--not to trivialize their contributions. A lot of them get de-platformed or shadow banned. There is a reason the how-to-get-and-handle-women genre of men's content has more legs than MRA content. Simply, people don't care about men, so MRA content falls on deaf ears. However, men are also problem solvers and so they want content that teaches them how to handle women better.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 02:35 PM
10

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights01/06/24 08:33 PM
16

Men are brutally cutthroat and merciless towards one another I don't agree with this description. Men are goal oriented. The foundation of how they relate to each other is through the lens of "how does this person fit in, in relation to my goals." Men (1) are rarely cruel, (2) select goals that are often unselfish, and (3) do develop deep feelings of care (albeit that they emerge within the goal-based context through which men see the world).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/24 01:50 PM
4

Men are said to be the problem because women freak out if any blame goes their direction. Men don't get as upset, and, to the extent they do, nobody cares about men's feelings, anyway.
/r/MensRights29/05/24 04:59 PM
1

Agreed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 01:21 PM
1

You seem to have a very surface-level impression of the movement which you have formed snap judgement based on.
/r/MensRights27/05/24 04:37 PM
1

Not at all. The men's movement slogan is, "There are no victims, only volunteers."[1] MRAs may disagree with, or even hate, feminists, but their orientation is not to blame them for our problems. Most of our energy does not go into advocating for change because we know that people don't care enough about us to be swayed by our points. Instead, we educate men so that they can understand the hostile environment they are operating in and avoid land mines. [1] Credit Paul Elam who founded avoiceform…
/r/MensRights27/05/24 01:40 PM
90

Exactly. It's never, "I made bad choices."
/r/MensRights24/05/24 08:29 PM
2

That's not what I meant. Of course, you can't punish someone for a law that didn't exist at the time. I am just saying that dismissing the flaw in the earlier law as a technicality is overly generous to the prior law.
/r/MensRights24/05/24 04:49 PM
7

It is not a "technicality." It is a law that does not care about males. The law (since superseded) stated, according to the article, that "women could not be legally responsible for abusing boys under past laws that only covered male offenders."
/r/MensRights24/05/24 04:08 PM
5

It happens a lot that female friends either (1) turn out to be man-hating once the topic comes up, or (2) change their beliefs after being sucked into feminist man-hating. It can be heartbreaking but you must learn to expect it as a possibility.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 09:54 PM
70

The framing "feminism lied to women" is nothing but a sales pitch. The reality is "women insisted upon." Saying "feminism lied" is a way to put it where women still get to feel like victims and never have to take accountability for their actions--which are prerequisites for women listening to anything. Women have tried to destroy anyone who doesn't spout the feminist message, and now they wonder why nobody told them different.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 05:26 PM
21

I really don't know why you feel the need to minimize what is objectively very discouraging data.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 12:43 AM
30

People often treat "majority" like its a magical thing, when it really isn't. 49% believing it vs 51% is not a material difference. Bottom line, when you are interacting with a woman, there is a very good chance she subscribes to these beliefs, and an even larger chance that these beliefs are easily within reach for her, if she's in a sour mood.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 12:40 AM
38

53% of 18 to 29 year old women picked the bear That's worse than I expected. I had assumed it was a vocal minority, but I guess I was under estimating the hate out there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/24 12:36 AM
1

That's not true. I know normie women who are familiar with it. Tik Tok in not just for the terminally online.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 12:37 PM
2

I'm talking about our world, not ancient Greece.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 10:01 PM
3

Men are constantly referred to as divine, especially in body building and similiar aspects of beauty. I don't know what planet you live on, but that does not happen on Earth. Kanye West is the only man who claims to be a god, and he does it ironically.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 06:37 PM
3

Good one.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 02:32 AM
34

Women say, "we were lied to." Reality: I dare you to TRY to tell them the truth, and watch how they respond. Emotional blackmail, trying to destroy your reputation, etc. As always, they want to flip between empowered and helpless, as it suits the situation. It is not that they were told the wrong thing. The would not STAND FOR anything else to be said. And now she's sad and a "victim."
/r/MensRights20/05/24 05:43 PM
0

Are you a bot? I feel like there are tons on reddit now.
/r/MensRights20/05/24 01:24 PM
21

Men need to keep their interactions with women at work extremely perfunctory. No friendships. Don't be alone with them. No comments or conversations that are not directly work focused.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 01:38 PM
18

Feminist women literally call themselves "goddesses". Imagine.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 03:58 AM
0

That what they're like. They constantly blame society over their discomfort with their own preferences.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 03:56 AM
7

Men are only allowed to express a narrow band of feelings--and certainly nothing that might be upsetting to women. People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 03:50 AM
88

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:38 PM
-1

To anyone saying that this topic doesn't fit the subreddit, I disagree. These protests are feminine chaos in action. As women become more prominent in society, expect this chaos to spread.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 01:20 PM
14

Of course it. Props to Tin Man.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 01:20 PM
21

You tax dollars at work.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 09:40 PM
4

Because film makers would rather appeal with progressives than make money.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 03:48 PM
57

Look at it this way, you are lucky that she is giving you a window into women's nature. Without it, you might have trusted an unrelated woman too much and let her get into position to destroy your life.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 03:47 PM
9

It is obvious that people prefer girls. They are not quiet about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 12:41 PM
7

People don'd care about men. Or boys.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 12:32 AM
7

There are no male spaces anymore.
/r/MensRights12/05/24 12:31 AM
10

I'm the same. I got into these issues around 2015, and tried to tell people in my life about them. What I got from men was partly neutral and partly supportive. What I got from women was a strong negative emotional reaction. Not a counter argument, mind you. Not any form of engagement with my position. Just emotional reaction and relational aggression--i.e., I must be a bad person to be thinking about such things. Now, I only talk to men about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 12:18 AM
5

If you want to really see how brilliant Janice is, checkout this video[1], which is the first of her series on feminist terminology and its underlying assumptions. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O4JliVhCJ4
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 04:25 PM
9

Janice Fiamengo is great. I've met to many times. Lest anyone get their hopes up that this signals an improvement in society, you should know that she has been giving this message for over ten years, and it resulted in her being ostracized to the point where she could not tolerate the hostile environment of her university and gave up her professorship.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/24 04:13 PM
10

"Believe all women" is just another way to say "men are disposable." The world will gladly throw a man in the garbage to make a woman smile.
/r/MensRights09/05/24 07:26 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights08/05/24 04:08 PM
7

I think the cruelty is the point. Some women just like to shit on men--and the vast majority of women don't mind this, or at least do not see it as a significant problem.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/05/24 01:22 PM
9

The left has a standard tactic: when they want to avoid discussing a topic, they problematize people who are attempting to discuss it. You can easily see this with men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 01:01 PM
9

I realized very quicky once I passed as male that it is usually women, and not other men, who dehumanize, belittle, and mock men for being passionate, crying, showing anger, or opening up about their trauma. 100%
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 12:45 PM
5

Thank you. Wow 70% is really high!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 02:13 AM
4

People don't care about men, so having a subreddit dedicated to men's issues violates a taboo.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 08:39 PM
8

Yes. In fact, Warren Farrell's writing about "male disposability" was key to the establishment of the men's movement in the 1990s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 08:37 PM
26

Not at all surprising. I didn't see any stats in the article, which is understandable because they are probably very hard to collect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 08:36 PM
46

She is revealing that you fundamentally cannot trust her and she does not see you as entitled to basic fairness. Of course I had a lot to say but since there's no winning, I didn't. I think this is the right approach. You cannot persuade her. She is a female supremacist . This is that it is like to be a member of a hated group.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 02:16 PM
6

It is not hypocracy; it is hierarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 12:52 PM
1

100
/r/MensRights07/05/24 12:51 PM
6

My question is, what should I do about this? Understand that she could turn against you at any time. Sorry, bud. I have dealt with similar. When you are in a relationship with a woman who buys into the anti-male narrative, this means that anytime she is unhappy with you, for whatever reason, this activates a mental web of narratives that tell her that men and women are enemies and even that women are morally justified in taking out "revenge" against men. Watch out.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 12:50 PM
1

It will be bad for all of us, but there is nothing we can do to stop it. The best we can do is to understand that this is the world we need to navigate and adjust our life strategies accordingly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 12:45 PM
1

It is not hypocrisy, it is hierarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 08:38 PM
13

I have gone through a lot of what you describe, and I have sympathy. Being told that we are disposable is depressing and scary. This is what it feels like when your group starts being discriminated against. It sucks, but, in fairness, other groups have been discriminated against viciously in the past, and they made it through. It is not right, and we need to make counter-moves (adjusting our life strategies). The only way they beat us is if we can't figure out how to swim in these new waters. On…
/r/MensRights05/05/24 06:48 PM
3

I think the interpretation are pretty similar. I'll phrase mine differently: women don't care about men's problems because they do not think that the men who have problems matter. They forgive themselves of this callousness because the men at the top take up all of the mental footprint for men in their mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 02:54 AM
10

It is not hypocrisy. It is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights04/05/24 07:55 PM
-4

There are numerous ways to look at the problem, but none that do not involve swallowing hard truths.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 05:58 PM
56

Of society does not limit feminine aggression, but instead pretend it doesn't exists. We will get more and more of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 11:46 AM
2

In prior generations, society would have labeled it "hysteria," but, of course, that is forbidden as misogyny now, when we have to pretend to believe that women are perfectly rational, and are not prone to chaotic swings. Since that explanation is off the table, I guess the only explanation "allowed" is that men really are worse that bears.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 11:20 AM
23

They are revealing that calling us "threatening" is just a stock accusation into which they pour all their disgust and hatred they feel towards us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 08:20 PM
9

To me, man vs bear question is subtly revealing. Despite women's protests, the bear is obviously scarier and more threatening. But they choose bear, anyway. Why? Because they find the men around them disgusting and would prefer something more dangerous an unfamiliar. Female chaos on display.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 08:18 PM
5

I thought it went without saying that people don't care about our problems.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/24 08:12 PM
1

I can't change your mind. The task is to figure out how to navigate this unfortunate situation.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 07:13 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 06:48 PM
8

People don't care about men. As a result, open hatred towards men is acceptable in our society, while women cannot be critiqued in any way.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/24 06:06 PM
6

Obviously, the cruelty is the point.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/24 12:04 PM
6

Women can be really cruel and hateful.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 11:53 AM
9

Of course, they are. The men's movement has been suppressed ever since it started.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 08:23 PM
9

100%
/r/MensRights01/05/24 01:41 PM
5

Crazy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/24 08:00 PM
1

Keep interactions with women at work perfunctory. Maintain your distance. Inflating these women's egos is not worth it.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 04:51 PM
20

This should be the top comment. DO NOT TAKE THE CHANCE! KEEP YOUR DISTANCE! Dude was acquitted, but he still lost years of his life and untold $$ to this stress, and the case could easily have gone the other way. And the feminist establishment will spin this as society doesn't care about sexual assault.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 09:18 PM
4

Male disposability and female chaos.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 03:38 PM
47

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights29/04/24 03:33 PM
1

That's the truth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 11:04 PM
146

They do not believe that men have problems, because they only think about the guys at the top and the rest of us are invisible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 11:03 PM
2

That's one interpretation. IMO, "oppression" is just the current narrative wrapped around male disposability. In prior eras, men were disposed of in wars, or in body-destroying work, etc. These days, men are much less disposed of in those ways, but it is not like the world is going to start caring about men. Thus, the need to create new stories to justify disposing of men in other ways, such as the Title IX kangaroo courts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/24 12:15 PM
1

It is a bogus stat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 01:44 PM
54

Tough day for LeftWingMaleAdvocates. The Democratic party doesn't think men deserve due process.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/24 04:49 PM
20

normal people think it’s simply not possible for men to be victims People don't care about men. Bad things that happen to us do not matter to them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 03:42 PM
18

it feels like I constantly have to choose between being seen as a man and hated, or seen as a woman and praised. Yep, that's the choice, and it is not going to change because, obviously, women will fight tooth and nail against giving up, or even admitting, their privileged position. If you want to be a man, I recommend learning stoicism well. As a man, people do not care about you. As to what little care or consideration you do get, people are outraged that you get even that. (Of course, this is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 03:39 PM
1

Yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/24 02:28 PM
6

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 05:49 PM
2

This propaganda drives huge amounts of hate and distrust in people's actual lives.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 05:23 PM
9

I would be in favor of a lot more gender segregation, if I weren't concerned that the male facilities will be inferior.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 07:50 PM
7

In our culture, women must always be said to be perfect. This norm is policed by a small percentage of psychopaths who use feminine relational aggression (gossip, exclusion, reputation destruction) against anyone who violates it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/24 02:08 PM
6

People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/04/24 09:15 PM
8

She will eventually get sued and be stopped. Unlikely. People do not care about the men whose reputations are being destroyed. Women have a license to trash us at will. It is amazing that I need to point this out. There is no uniform standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/24 06:58 PM
13

Women take out loans assuming someone else will help pay them. Traditionally, this has been their husband but, as Biden is making increasingly clear, if women can't find husbands, then the government will do it.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 01:59 PM
2

The problem is that you won't even be appreciated for doing so. Raising another man's child is a huge act of kindness and charity. But the truth is that men who do it often do not receive gratitude, because they are just seen as disposable utilities.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 11:13 PM
19

I didn't mean to discount it. As men wake up to men's issues, each person will have an entry point, where they first notice the empathy gap, and AWDTSG is a fine example. I was just pointing out that AWDTSG is not a singular phenomenon, but part of a universal pattern.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/24 05:17 PM
74

AWDTSG is just a drop in the ocean. The demonization of men by women makes itself felt in many, many contexts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/24 04:32 PM
3

That is a surprisingly fair analysis, coming from Time.
/r/MensRights09/04/24 03:40 PM
16

I think the definition of liberal have changed extremely. For example, impartiality under the law is a classically liberal notion, but it is now largely rejected by the left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 11:07 PM
1

If the government is vested with the power to decide who gets what, then it will send resources to those who people care about, and not to those who people do not care about. People care about women, and do not care about men, so the government-directed flow of resources will favor women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 11:06 PM
1

Like I said, "situational alpha" positions, where I just have some status in the situation, which makes me more visible to the women. I don't want to get too specific. The point is that I know from first-hand experience that women are hypergamous. The effect is so strong that I find it impossible to believe that women are not aware of it.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 09:30 PM
2

Got it. Thanks.
/r/MensRights08/04/24 01:32 AM
1

Isn't there something inherently wrong about not loving the person who was literally made for you. To me, it rings of hatred of God (and even if you don't believe in God, it's a bad idea to hate him).
/r/MensRights08/04/24 01:31 AM
1

Twice in my life, I have gone through sudden upward changes in visible status. Not in terms of career, but landing into positions that redpillers call "situational alphas." It wasn't the biggest pool, but suddenly, I was one of the bigger fish. The change in attention I got from women was like night and day. I can't overemphasize it. I don't believe that women ever in their lives experience such a sudden change in the validation they get from the opposite sex. It was like turning on a light swit…
/r/MensRights08/04/24 01:29 AM
10

You sound like a wonderful person. Thank you for posting here.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 07:53 PM
14

Thank you. I am deeply appreciative of women like you, though I have given up hope that they will ever represent more than a tiny minority. Personally, I am not MGTOW. But I have learned to keep my thoughts to myself, and keep my emotional engagement with women cursory. I wasn't always like that, but years of being honest and taking Ls changed my approach.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 07:00 PM
2

Could you explain?
/r/MensRights05/04/24 06:56 PM
8

I like to imagine this is view is what most reasonable people who you will encounter in your day have. Try talking to some women in your life about men's issues. If your experience is like mine, this will dispel your fantasy that the hateful are in the minority.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 03:23 PM
61

When I see women bashing men publicly, I used to wonder, why is it that other women don't argue back? Why don't women stand up for us, like men do all the time for women? Since tuning in to these issues more than a decade ago, I wondered this for years before settling in to my conclusion: women will never stand up for men. Every day, women, as a group, have a chance to prove me wrong, but they never do. Yes, there are exceptions (perhaps a few dozen I've encountered in the last decade), but they…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 03:22 PM
1

It's not a joke. It is real.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/24 12:17 PM
10

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights05/04/24 12:16 PM
20

It is the perfect snapshot of our culture. Ken is trying to love Barbie, but Barbie is incapable of love, even though Ken is literally made for her. And women, in their millions, cheered it on, essentially proclaiming, "We are proud that we are incapable of love." Gents, understand which way the wind is blowing and back away from the crazies.
/r/MensRights04/04/24 12:37 PM
8

This is what happens when we feed our sons nothing but denigration and discouragement.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 06:41 PM
26

The situation is incredibly sad and people don't care.
/r/MensRights03/04/24 12:59 PM
8

Maybe a few do, but overwhelmingly no. Men have been lied to about women's nature and so when life experience teaches them the truth they go through a dissillusionment, but this is not the same as blaming them for our problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 12:56 PM
47

This is super common. It's really sad what narcissistic women are doing to men.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 09:56 PM
24

In our culture, women as a group can never be criticized for anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:58 PM
32

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 12:38 PM
25

I encourage you to engage more people in conversations about men's issues. That will convince you that it is not just the vocal ones who do not care about men--it is pretty much everybody
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 12:38 PM
11

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights02/04/24 12:35 PM
51

I want to upvote this 100 times. We in this space hear all the time about how it is just radical feminists who are the problem, and that women in real life aren't like that. They should all try to engage women they know in gender conversations, and then they will see how universal it is that women regard us as disposable.
/r/MensRights31/03/24 11:05 PM
24

Women literally call themselves as "goddesses." Can you imagine? Dudes, tread carefully and keep your distance. You don't want to be around them during their narcissistic euphoria, and certainly don't want to be around when their mental house of cards comes crashing down.
/r/MensRights31/03/24 07:33 PM
35

The real "gender gap" revealed here is that people care about women's problems, and do not care about men's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/24 03:42 PM
17

Because by throwing in the word "systematic," they can blame and shame men who aren't doing anything wrong.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/03/24 02:02 PM
10

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/24 01:22 PM
11

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 07:46 PM
2

The "excuse" is that there is no good plan to fix it. There doesn't have to be an excuse for something to be bad. Bad is normal, but humans have been resourceful enough to create pockets of good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/24 01:40 AM
1

Is the diversity you describe a longstanding phenomenon, or has it developed over the last, say, 30 years?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/24 01:38 AM
16

While this question is interesting, I think there is a tendency to overstate the degree that everywhere could be like the nordic countries. These are very small, rich, homogeneous, culturally specific countries. They do not provide a template that can be applies everywhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/24 10:34 PM
4

Correct. It is similar to the idea of being a "real man" (no such thing as being a "real woman"). Women are born with value, while men are considered disposable.
/r/MensRights21/03/24 03:58 PM
5

This is important knowledge.
/r/MensRights20/03/24 10:42 PM
7

Yes, there are numerous court cases on this.
/r/MensRights20/03/24 10:42 PM
3

It is almost like they live in a culture that discourages them from positive engagement.
/r/MensRights20/03/24 05:23 PM
4

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/24 05:18 PM
4

As man, you should NEVER expect society to take your side versus a woman. They care about her, and do not care about you. They would gladly throw in the trash to make her smile.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 05:44 PM
3

No surprise there.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 03:41 PM
25

link So disgusting. People just hate men.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/03/24 09:24 PM
27

Is this real?
/r/EverydayMisandry18/03/24 06:33 PM
269

Dudes, DO NOT lose your cool. DO NOT become violent. So often, the woman is trying to manipulate you into doing it, because the moment you do she has you in checkmate.
/r/MensRights18/03/24 02:11 PM
12

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/24 02:09 PM
12

The use of brain imaging to say that men see women as objects is an insane jump, that is only made because if furthers a slander against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/24 11:08 AM
3

It falls somewhere on the spectrum between objective and subjective. I will explain why I disagree with characterizing at subjective. There is a taboo these days against observing that women have any particular nature or tendencies. IMO, women enforce this taboo because they do not want to feel accountable. Feeling accountable makes them feel anxious and judged. The downside of the taboo is that it leaves men unable to advise each other or develop life strategies with respect to women. This harm…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 06:48 PM
3

(1) Things are getting worse. Specifically, women's attitude towards men is getting worse. I see this in my everyday, and it is all over the media, and, particularly, reflected in women's media-consumption preferences. To me, this is evidence, but you are free to cast it aside. (2) I partly agree with the men-need-to-do-better take. I think it is a great personal attitude to have, but that it doesn't tell the whole story on a population level. (3) I strongly believe that, for women, hypergamy ha…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 12:38 PM
2

Again, I like the can-do attitude, even if I don't agree with points. I definitely do not agree that hypergamy is the same for men and women. Jeez. Anyway, I wish you the best. Cheers.
/r/MensRights15/03/24 12:31 PM
13

I agree with you. It is not 100% biologically determined. Empathy for men was more prevalent in the past and still exists in some cultures. But for my culture (the US), for the foreseeable future, it is a settled issue. There is no empathy for men and, IMO, men are better advised to develop life strategies around this truth (which, yes, does mean a degree of closing our hearts) than to fight against what we cannot change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/24 12:24 PM
3

I appreciate you positive attitude, but I think there's strong evidence that it's getting harder. Women openly discuss and affirm the idea that they are not attracted to the men around them. For example, the point of the Barbie movie is that Barbie was not attracted to Ken--and women around the world affirmed that this is how they feel. It is also a major theme of music popular with women, such as Taylor Swift and Lizzo. The reason they are not attracted to the men around them is that they are i…
/r/MensRights15/03/24 03:30 AM
3

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm very happy with how I, personally, do. But, looking around, I can see that it is getting harder for a lot of guys. I'm not encouraging anyone to feel fatalistic, just talking about population trends.
/r/MensRights15/03/24 02:58 AM
7

Sorry, but it is objective. The concept of an "apex man" is not a male-generated construct, but is imposed on men by women's selection behavior. Women have an awareness/consensus, in any given context, of who are the men who can get sex. This awareness stimulates women's drives and makes them even more interested, so it is a self-reinforcing feedback that structurally excludes most men. Of course, a lot of women do form relationship with men who they know are not apex, but this is not an example…
/r/MensRights14/03/24 08:43 PM
9

Agreed, and I fear that the number of male incels will grow substantially because the nature of liberated female sexuality is to flock to a small number of apex men.
/r/MensRights14/03/24 04:46 PM
6

lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 04:36 PM
81

IMO it is unlikely to occur in the mainstream. Men are the disposable sex and women have both the incentive and the social power to prevent mainstream acceptance of empathy for men. But it can and should be normalized within men's communities. (Unfortunately, those communities will continue to be marginalized for the reasons above.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 04:35 PM
29

It is an epidemic. I certainly feel it. There is a taboo against discussing it because anything the suggests that women have an advantage over men in any regard is forbidden. The root of this taboo is two-fold: (1) people don't care about men and so don't want to hear about our problems, and (2) women only think about the tiny percentage of men at the top, and so, from women's perspective, "men" do have plentiful advantages (because they define "men" to exclude the vast majority of us).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/24 03:54 PM
5

I am sorry you are feeling this way. Stay strong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/24 08:44 PM
2

I'm not holding my breath.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/24 04:30 PM
14

This isn't even about acknowledging male issues, this is about portraying women as victims regardless of it being true or not. It is both. Which doesn't reflect highly on leftwing American women if they support things like this, but I guess they are mislead more than anything else. This is an example of denying women's agency. In my opinion, this is something the women are doing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/24 06:04 PM
36

Because they fear alienating the women in their voting base if they acknowledge that men have any issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/24 04:07 PM
7

[Here is my continuation.] Women's hypergamy "floats." The higher-status the woman becomes, the smaller the pool of men she is attracted to. The result is that women are creating a polygamous society where they will share the few men who all of them are attracted to. Described another way, male attractiveness follows a "power law" distribution where women, seeing that other women are attracted to a man, then themselves become more attracted to him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 09:20 PM
6

the act of heterosexuals, specifically hetero women, hating their own sexuality and wishing they were either lgbt or ace. I would describe this as "women do not find themselves attracted to the men around them." If attraction were presented, women would want to be with men. I will save the rest of what I have to say for a reply to my own comment, because it involves discussing women's nature, and I recognize that this may case the sub's moderators to remove it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 09:16 PM
37

Unfortunately, you will have to get used to a future of women getting special privileges, and men only getting blame. It is the world we live in. People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 07:38 PM
4

Just one in six?
/r/MensRights05/03/24 06:51 PM
1

People don't care about men, and they will punish any attempt to make other care.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 04:28 AM
7

"Louie" on FX, Season 3, episode 2, "Telling Jokes/Set Up." A woman brutally forces Louie to give her oral sex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telling_Jokes/Set_Up
/r/EverydayMisandry04/03/24 04:22 PM
2

I wish you success in changing minds, but don't take it personally if they won't.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/02/24 07:48 PM
2

Of course, there are bumps and ups and downs like with everyone else, but things are going well. I guess the way to explain what I'm saying is that I've been into men's issues for over ten years. I spent the first 5+ of these thinking that, if only more people were made aware of the issues, the social narrative would change. A lot of heartbreak ensued for me by trying to open people's eyes--especially in relation to women I know. I would explain something anti-male that was upsetting me, expecti…
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/24 10:19 PM
1

I am not choosing despair. I am just not waiting on people to change before I get on with having a great life.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/24 09:30 PM
2

This is a problem and it should be addressed Addressed how? Make women attracted to short men? Make the world care about men as human beings? Neither are possible.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/02/24 02:20 PM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/02/24 02:12 PM
6

I don't think it's a good use of one's time to try and sway feminists over to our side. Agreed. In the words of the great CGA, it is a waste of breath.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 09:46 PM
5

Why does it feel to me like women's spaces, in general, tend to be like this? IMO, it tells me something about women, but maybe others have a different explanation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 09:45 PM
5

Actually, you don't "have to date," at all. She should do us all a favor and stay home.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/24 11:25 PM
1

Maybe, but they won't get hired by a university, because they've told us something we are supposed to deny.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 10:00 PM
29

But punishing her might deter other women from coming forward, they'll say. Their policies empower psychopaths.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 09:58 PM
4

Have you not been paying attention? They are clearly not considered equal. They are consider superior.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 09:57 PM
17

Damn dude. Harsh truth. I think we men have this desire to reveal our vulnerabilities to women, thinking that things will be better once we have her affirmation that they are nbd. When I have that urge, I try to remind myself, THINGS WILL NOT BE BETTER. Her knowing/acknowledging won't help anything. I'm viewing her as some kind of magical creature who can bless me, despite my shortcomings. That's childish thinking. I remind myself that she is the child, not me.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 05:07 PM
7

This resonates with what I've seen. The wife will say she wants it, but then ten years later she doesn't respect him and blames him for their setup.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 01:05 AM
60

People care about women, but do not care about men. So, obviously, women's issues are the ones that will be discussed and prioritized, and we will be told that we are not doing enough for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 01:00 PM
3

Women give their truth about male sexuality. They don't care about "your truth," and don't believe in "the truth." Clown world.
/r/MensRights15/02/24 04:06 PM
45

Men have always been viewed as disposable. The "male privilege" notion is a new version of disposability for the modern world, which is much safer than the past. It is not a coincidence that the term "male privilege" came into usage in the early 2000s, just as society's memory of the most recent military draft faded away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/24 09:23 PM
1

Because the world is.
/r/MensRights13/02/24 09:20 PM
2

Women today are constantly rehearsing in their heads a unending litany of reasons to hate men. This is just one of those. The goal of this litany is to give women the upper hand in relation to men because it gives them excuses to not listen to men's point of view, or care about men's suffering. Be careful out there, gents.
/r/MensRights11/02/24 08:42 PM
9

These are the women running around these days. Women literally call themselves "goddesses." Can you imagine that level of narcissism? Stay safe, my dudes, and keep your physical and emotional distance.
/r/MensRights07/02/24 05:56 PM
3

It is totally normal for women today to believe women are superior. That is how our culture raises them.
/r/EverydayMisandry06/02/24 08:01 PM
2

People don't care about men, but care quite a bit about women. As a result, the topic of women screwing over men sounds to most people like nails on a chalkboard.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/02/24 11:04 PM
62

Adult asthma is less common among whites than blacks[1]. I am guessing doctors have no pejorative phrase they use at that point. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/asthma/asthmadata/adult_prevalence_race.html
/r/MensRights04/02/24 10:31 PM
109

Once Nicholson, whose programme is called Progressive Masculinity, unpacks the fact that feminism means equal rights and opportunities for women, many of the boys with whom he works are won over. Oh, is that what feminism is? Well, who could oppose that? Thanks Guardian. I feel like I lost iq points, reading the small bit I read of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 10:28 PM
1

I appreciate you engaging with me, but I am going to move on from this back-and-forth. I wish you the best, and I am glad to have you as a participant in this subreddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 04:01 AM
2

I guess we disagree on whether there are inherent differences between men and women. I think there are. I agree that we should regard people as individuals and do not believe that the existence of innate differences makes this impossible. Are saying that you do not take any different precautions in dealing with an unfamiliar man compared to an unfamiliar woman? If so, I would say that policy is highly unusual among women. Like I said before, I used to not see things this way, and I kept getting …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 03:10 AM
3

I guess we can agree to disagree. I do believe that this is primarily a female trait. It took me a long time to learn this, and my relationships with women have gotten better since I have. IMO, men and women are not the same. Men have numerous unflattering traits, and our culture has no problem pointing these out. In contrast, our culture has a huge taboo against identifying any unflattering female traits. Since this taboo crushes any open discussion, we each need to reach our conclusions, essen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 02:38 AM
2

I will try to illustrate what I'm talking about by pointing to the "Barbie" movie, which illustrated this trait very well; the trait being, women tend to get onto a "vibe" that is reinforced by other women, but then have the vibe collapse like a house of cards when an idea foreign to their calculus enters. (Hopefully, you've seen the movie, so this will make sense.) The phenomenon I'm describing happens over and over in "Barbie": when Barbie comes crashing out of the dance party vibe because she…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 01:52 AM
7

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights03/02/24 04:09 PM
2

A lot of men want to be on "team woman."
/r/MensRights03/02/24 04:03 PM
4

There is a lot you've said that I agree with, but I have what I think is an important correction to something you said about what women are like. You said: People love to have this disingenuous black and white view of women. Where they think most women are these submissive stay at home wives who just cook, clean, and take care of their kids all day. While they think the other half of women are just these successful badass independent girl bosses. But in reality it's a spectrum. And majority of w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/24 02:42 PM
12

PURE GOLD! Thanks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/24 07:12 PM
14

Yeah, like what have white men ever done good?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/24 06:50 PM
3

100%
/r/MensRights01/02/24 07:19 PM
23

Dude, it is night vs day how women treat you when their hypergamy is activated.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 05:52 PM
33

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 05:51 PM
5

Society's denial of male disposability is an example of it, not a refutation of it.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 03:29 PM
10

Women dominate all academic fields except for STEM (and only don't dominate there because medicine is arbitrarily excluded from STEM). They are going after STEM because women must dominate everywhere. ​ People don't care about men, but care very much about women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/24 03:19 PM
40

My observations agree with yours. I am fortunate to be one of the few guys that women chase (because of what I do, not because of looks). It is hilarious the night vs day feeling, of how women suddenly don't treat me like shit, once they know more about me and their hypergamy is activated.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 03:12 PM
27

Being a misandrist can be a great career.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/24 03:06 PM
-1

I think it's a really hard question.
/r/MensRights31/01/24 02:07 AM
22

Yep, that is what it is like.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 07:01 PM
3

I think that oppressor/oppressed is too simplistic. There were horrible things about both gender roles in the past. I don't think it is a coincidence that the term "male privilege" came into use almost exactly one generation after the end of the military draft.
/r/MensRights30/01/24 02:50 PM
13

While true, this post sounds like it is coming from somebody who does not understand the nature/scope of the problem. It was a major eye-opener for me when I started talking to women in my life about my discomfort with the culture demonizing men and ignoring men's issues. What did I get back from the women? Triggered, emotionally blackmailing, topic derailing, drama games. This is a cycle that I kept recreating for about 10 years, with many different women, until I finally got the message: I nee…
/r/MensRights30/01/24 02:30 PM
12

People don't care about men.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/01/24 02:14 PM
16

To me, the observation should be, "Does it annoy you how the left has zero tolerance for discussion of men's issue, and so all the discussion has been pushed onto the right?" The answer would be yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 01:59 PM
8

The first step in the answer is school choice.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 10:05 PM
1

> Why do they care if we advocate for ourselves to ourselves? Why does it matter to them what we do? They want to control us and put us in "our place"--that place being 100% uncritically supportive of them.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 07:31 PM
30

It is very well studied. Women slut shame other women. The large majority of it comes from women. But, of course, women blame men for everything, so men get blamed.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 07:23 PM
19

The 20s are a HARD decade for men. Try not to beat yourself up, and try to keep moving forward. I know it is hard. It is not your fault that young men are put in this difficult position. Good luck.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 05:36 PM
2

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights29/01/24 02:13 PM
35

Men get blamed for everything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 02:11 PM
9

Correct.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 09:42 PM
1

When did you obtain your degrees?
/r/MensRights28/01/24 12:40 AM
1

Advanced degrees get you ahead, and anyone obtaining one goes through feminist brainwashing.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 08:22 PM
14

0% surprised.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 02:15 AM
1

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 08:01 PM
1

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 02:01 PM
90

Male disposability. People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 05:13 PM
2

I love Manosphere Highlights Daily. Whoever is behind the channel is brilliant. PURE GOLD!
/r/MensRights25/01/24 01:21 PM
1

FYI, I suspect that the movie is an accidental masterpiece. Probably, the filmmakers were trying to shit on men, but Mattel would not let them turn Ken into an asshole. As a result, Barbie rejects him for no reason.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 11:18 PM
1

I'm so glad you appreciate my analysis.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 11:12 PM
2

IMO, it is the best picture of the year and deserves to sweep the awards. It depicts a man trying to love a woman, but the woman is incapable of love, even though the man is literally made for her. And the audience of women applauded this. I can't think of another movie that casts such a penetrating spotlight on our culture.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 07:03 PM
18

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 02:10 PM
5

In manosphere parlance, what you are observing is called "shit tests"--i.e., women will ask you comply, but then be more attracted to you when you refuse. This is a subset of a broader category of female behavior where they pursue things they don't actually want--which, in turn, is an example of feminine chaos. These thoughts have been deeply explored in the manosphere, so I thought it might help to place your observations into the bigger picture.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 01:12 AM
11

I love Janice Fiamengo. Highly recommend her work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 12:40 AM
3

It is right to be suspicious.
/r/MensRights23/01/24 10:09 PM
1

Of all the instincts that might be suppressed, men's desire to simp for women is one of the most unchangeable.
/r/MensRights22/01/24 10:47 PM
1

It will never happen. We can on change ourselves. We cannot control others.
/r/MensRights22/01/24 06:46 PM
1

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights17/01/24 04:39 PM
3

Great post. You are totally correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 07:18 PM
3

Yes, it is frustrating.
/r/MensRights09/01/24 09:36 PM
1

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 10:26 PM
6

It is not just left-wingers who have this double-standard. Both sides have it. People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/24 05:36 PM
35

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights27/12/23 07:20 PM
38

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/23 04:19 PM
13

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/23 02:27 PM
2

Yes and no. Yes, the situation is bad, but also men are very resilient and adaptable. We can live minimalist lives and be happy.
/r/MensRights22/12/23 02:43 PM
14

I prefer, "stop slandering men." The point of all this is to back-foot men, and give women in the moral upper-hand at all levels--from public leadership to the bedroom. This is destructive to relationships, because the slanderers are sweeping in irrelevancies.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 06:37 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 07:33 PM
-2

Masculinity can have toxic expressions, so the idea itself isn't the problem. But it is used to suggest that men, in general, lack moral standing, which is bad philosophy.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 02:04 PM
15

This is the fruit of decades of feminists promoting hate and hysteria. Men want to love women, but the demonization has become frustrating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/23 10:25 PM
9

Ya think? /s
/r/MensRights18/12/23 08:33 PM
11

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/23 08:31 PM
4

Of course it is. And not just online, but throughout our society.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 01:25 AM
5

Women's chaotic pendulum is swinging. We went from 50 Shades in 2010 to metoo in late teens, early 20s. Now it is swinging back. But don't take too much encouragement, gentlemen. This is just one example a chaotic swing--a tendency that prevents women from being reliable partners.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 04:04 PM
3

Because people do not care about men, and male spaces have been destroyed to the point where men have become alienated from each other.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 03:40 PM
11

Insane.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 10:04 PM
8

Men have ALWAYS been considered irrelevant. People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 02:04 PM
3

Understand that it is valid for men to talk amongst ourselves about women's shortcomings. In fact, most women get triggered whenever a problem with women is pointed out. Then the women use emotional blackmail, gossip, false accusations, and reputation destruction to coerce the men to stop talking to each other.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 01:50 PM
51

Name the issue and feminists (who control all institutions now) will say we need to be caring more for women, and caring less for men. This is because men are disposable and women are valued.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 01:48 PM
28

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 01:38 PM
16

Yes, we should, but many men are just now learning to do this, after decades of society conditioning ourselves not to.
/r/MensRights06/12/23 03:30 PM
3

I hope more details of this come out!
/r/MensRights06/12/23 02:30 PM
4

As a group, women always deny their own agency. They see whatever they do as a reaction to circumstances, while they seen men as making choices.
/r/MensRights06/12/23 02:08 PM
41

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights06/12/23 02:05 PM
3

They've been told that they can be better than other men, by being an "ally." These are also pro-social, high-achieving guys, so, when they see a way to be "better," they implement it. Where they fail is that they lack the insight to realize that the societal programming is wrong.
/r/MensRights06/12/23 02:02 PM
36

Women aren’t flooding to the movies or streaming sites to watch this crap either. Isn't it a stunning demonstration of women's social power? If women pressure men into making movies/video games/etc. that bash man, then men will do it--even though it loses money and demeans men. That's power.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 11:42 PM
18

Watch how women react and learn from it. Do not assume that you already understand how women tick. In fact, men should consider figuring this out to be one of the major challenges of their lives. Observe the evidence, and update your assumptions accordingly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/23 11:34 PM
0

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights05/12/23 05:24 PM
12

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights04/12/23 09:19 PM
28

What really burns is that they insist on "women and children first," but then refuse to acknowledge that this reflects even a molecule of female privilege.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 03:20 PM
6

I hear your frustration and empathize. Of course, it makes it worse that society tries to gaslight you and blame you (because, of course, only flattery is allowed towards women, so they couldn't possibly have any flaws).
/r/MensRights04/12/23 02:19 PM
8

Yes, it is that bad. I wish it wasn't true, but it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/23 10:58 PM
1

Sort of, but also specifically dragging feminists.
/r/MensRights03/12/23 10:03 PM
1

Simple: "I'm not one of those feminists."
/r/MensRights03/12/23 03:44 PM
16

The rule in our society is that we see only the bad in men, and only the good in women. That is why the sins of a small handful of men are projected onto all men, while toxicity among women cannot even be discussed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/23 03:40 PM
27

Because female relational aggression works. Anyone who feminism will not face counter-arguments, as much as they will face reputation destruction and exclusion. Men are particularly vulnerable to this because we are viewed as disposable, anyway.
/r/MensRights02/12/23 07:02 PM
1

Brother, I can 100% relate. Our society does a huge disservice to men by deceiving us about female nature. We get married, and then, over the course of years, female nature reveals itself and the carpet is pulled out from under us. I have two observations: (1) When you approach her with rational statements, she reacts with emotional blackmail. I am sure she doesn't see it that way. To her, these are "her feelings," which means they are valid. (Of course, she likely won't see your feelings as val…
/r/MensRights02/12/23 06:16 PM
6

The real wake up call was talking to feminists about men's issues. It started for me with kangaroo courts on college campuses for men accused of misconduct. Obvious due process was being skipped. I figured that feminists would understand the problem and want to fix it. Boy was I wrong. Experiencing the vitriolic emotional blackmail feminists unleash when asked to consider a men's issue is what taught me what's really up.
/r/MensRights29/11/23 02:03 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights28/11/23 01:57 PM
73

I agree that this is a misleading presentation in the images. The study shows that men identifying as incels disagree with non-identifying men about women's priorities. But the presentation assumes that the non-identifying men are objectively correct.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 02:56 PM
1

No. People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 12:06 AM
1

The only group that can be slandered with impunity.
/r/MensRights27/11/23 12:06 AM
1

we only care because it gets us laid. Meanwhile, women use status to categorise people. Including other women. Totally true.
/r/MensRights24/11/23 01:05 PM
6

Again and again.
/r/MensRights23/11/23 03:33 PM
26

Great example. A man can still think a woman in a reflective vest is hot. To women, the man stops being a human being.
/r/MensRights23/11/23 02:58 PM
1

Women only think about the tiny percentage of men at the top. The other (90%ish) of us are invisible. We just don't count. So, they way they perceive things, men really are doing much better than women. It is doubly unfair because not only are men doing better, but the women aren't even going to be able to snag a "real man" (ie top %) for a relationship (because the math doesn't work out).
/r/MensRights23/11/23 02:57 PM
33

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights21/11/23 02:01 PM
2

It is not fair.
/r/MensRights20/11/23 05:15 PM
2

Because women will use relational aggression tactics to punish us. These tactics are formidable and dangerous. They will lie about us behind our backs and destroy our reputations, and/or use false accusations. Women have also successfully divided men against each other, and so they will get a lot of support from men in taking us down, because men are desperate to be one of the "good ones."
/r/MensRights17/11/23 02:03 PM
8

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 02:00 PM
8

Where does the 47% number come from. It is not in the article.
/r/MensRights17/11/23 02:00 PM
10

Sounds to me like the kind of study that would be unreliable, and really just a false wrapping of science around an ideological opinion the author wants to advance. This would be a very difficult topic to collect reliable data on, and also one plagued by many confounding variables. This doesn't mean it isn't true, but some (many) topics are structurally difficult to demonstrate through statistical research.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/23 01:54 PM
15

Who would buy that magazine? What a joke.
/r/MensRights16/11/23 07:33 PM
1

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights16/11/23 01:54 PM
5

Women only think about the men at the top. As a result, they have no sympathy for men.
/r/MensRights15/11/23 07:50 PM
4

I think that you have suppositions about how it has been in past cultures that are probably not correct. About hunter gatherers, you are referring there to tens of thousands of small tribes that existed across the world in virtual isolation from each other. They had no writing, and so we have no significant records of how things were. The truth is, surely, that it varied a lot from place to place, and life was pretty brutal and horrible much of the time, because they lacked technology. There is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/23 07:40 PM
19

It has been so amusing to read the media coverage of why the movie failed because of "superhero fatigue." No, if failed because they alienated men.
/r/MensRights14/11/23 07:21 PM
2

Women are very good at turning men against each other. Once they destroyed/infiltrated all male-only spaces, men lost the ability to collect together against it.
/r/MensRights12/11/23 05:39 PM
5

As tired as we all are, do not expect it to stop.
/r/MensRights10/11/23 04:29 PM
21

I can relate. Talking to "friends" about men being human being is often scary.
/r/MensRights10/11/23 04:14 PM
35

That's a Warren Farrell quote, isn't it. He is amazing at condensing ideas into pithy sayings. It is a shame he has been dismissed and demonized for so long.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/23 11:39 PM
123

The maxim to explain this is that women are born with value, but men need to achieve value.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/23 09:15 PM
12

Good luck looking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/23 09:13 PM
14

No, it is them who refuse to engage with us, because their arguments don't stand up to scrutiny. We much be willing to engage with them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/23 02:01 PM
7

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 07:16 PM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights06/11/23 03:11 PM
6

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 01:54 PM
1

Don't befriend female colleagues. More trouble/danger than it could possibly be worth.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 01:51 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 01:49 PM
13

How do you define misogyny? Is any criticism of women as a group misogyny? Society certainly has no problem criticizing men as a group. Women are practically expected to at least go through a "man hating" phase. Do men have the reciprocal right, or do you feel that criticizing men is somehow more acceptable than criticizing women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 01:47 PM
1

I would talk to him about it, but be prepared for him to reject it.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/23 02:57 PM
19

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/23 01:37 PM
5

She is trying to get you to lose your temper. If she can record you raising your voice, that is all the world needs to believe that you are monster you are behind closed doors. Don't fall for it. Stay cool and calm, and make your case in court. Record all interactions with her.
/r/MensRights31/10/23 02:00 PM
5

I only have on caveat to what you are saying. It is possible for there to be a space where men can have real talk with each other (not women)--as long as the whole group is awaken to female nature. This is invaluable, but rare because women try to shut it down wherever it happens.
/r/MensRights31/10/23 01:53 PM
8

The way people talks about incels is a good example of society's total lack of empathy for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/23 01:48 PM
8

It's like, look dude, she isn't worth the price. So more acceptance and less copium my guy. Absolutely. But the media take is, "relationships aren't forming, it's men to blame," because of course it is.
/r/MensRights31/10/23 01:45 PM
2

Absolutely right. Men need to draw their support and validation from each other, not from women. Unfortunately, when men start doing this, women see it as a threat, and use relational aggression to punish them--eg tarnishing their reputations or, in the context of a relationship, finding a way to make him pay.
/r/MensRights31/10/23 01:43 PM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights30/10/23 05:42 PM
2

When talking about male nature vs female nature, words/explanations often fall short. It is like asking, "How is a cat different from a dog?" No explanation will be complete. The best I can do to answer your question is that women are more about power, and men are more about collaboration. Male communities welcome new ideas because the community is working together to find the best answers. In contrast female communities see new ideas as a threat to their internal power hierarchy, and react by n…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 05:13 PM
5

Unfortunately, that's totally normal.
/r/MensRights24/10/23 01:40 PM
5

We all wish it wasn't true, but it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/23 03:47 PM
6

For YEARS, the spotlight has been on women and THEIR issues Make that for hundreds of years, at least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/23 04:41 PM
2

Good one.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 04:39 PM
1

Your life experience is disproving your assumptions (ie societal programming) about what women are like. You need to update your assumptions, based on the evidence. People don't care about men, but they do care about women. Women like it this way.
/r/MensRights22/10/23 04:38 PM
2

No one checks up on you. Not even most other men you come across day to day. There are spaces where this is improving. Check out https://www.subscribestar.com/regarding-men. It is an online community of men's-issues-aware guys, started by Paul Elam. They have online Zoom meeting to chat and hang out.
/r/MensRights21/10/23 02:21 PM
14

I can relate. I have also experienced a large, upward transition in attractiveness. It makes you look at women differently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 02:22 AM
27

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights17/10/23 12:30 AM
11

Here is the promised explanation. Women's perception filters out most men, and focuses only on the men at the top. So, from their point of view, things are easy for men, because all the men they can think of are at the top. This has been called "the hypergamy privilege illusion," which is summarized that women think men are privileged because they only think about privileged men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 11:40 PM
5

You are asking a question about why a woman is going something that seems strange to you. This is dangerous territory within this sub because statements characterizing what women are like tend to get banned (unless, of course, the statement is flattering). I will answer why she has this point of view (IMO) in reply to this initial comment. (This way, you will be able to tell, in case the explanation gets removed.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 11:38 PM
4

This story resonates with me a lot, because of the way that women I have been close to in my own life have treated me. I tried for years to persuade them to change, but to no avail. In the end, I needed to accept that our relationship was not what I thought it was. You can't make other people care about you, no matter how much you want them to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/23 09:45 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 03:21 PM
1

I agree with all of that. The current situation sucks--but is not symmetrical. On the right, individuality reigns. This means the party is weak, and a charismatic outsider (Trump) can come in (crazy as he is) and the establishment players are powerless to stop him from taking over. On the left, conformity reigns. They use cancel culture and ostracism to prevent anyone from breaking ranks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 01:27 PM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights12/10/23 05:02 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/23 05:01 PM
3

Really sucks how people associate you with that if you ever bring up male issues :/ Let's not forget that the reason they make that assumption is because the left is 100% dead-set against any recognition of men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/23 02:00 PM
1

The Republican party is so monstrous right now that it is painful to even think about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 10:00 PM
39

I thought I understood what the "left" was, until I got into men's issues and saw how people on the left responded. Then, I needed to update my understanding due to new data. It was a long, sad process.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 01:35 PM
13

Yes, the way our society discusses incels provides an example of the total lack of empathy they have for men. People do not care about men. Women's issues receive so much more social concern, not because women have more serious issues, but because people care about women more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 01:05 PM
25

Most people only think about the top 1% of men. The rest are considered irrelevant and sub-human. Once they filter out 99%, men look very privileged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/23 01:00 PM
42

It is a a "red flag" for men to say anything that women don't like. I.e., honest communication is foolish. Time for strategy and cynicism.
/r/MensRights11/10/23 12:56 PM
4

When women are criticized, they are likely to go rogue--overreacting, lashing out emotionally, etc. They use all the feminine tools of relational aggression, and may hold a grudge and exact revenge on the person in subtle ways later.
/r/MensRights05/10/23 03:32 PM
4

That's what we get, these days.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 08:35 PM
23

Unfortunately, the game doesn't go away when you are in a committed relationship, it just changes.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 08:28 PM
43

People do not know how to say no to women, and so women have been able to invade/disrupt all male spaces.
/r/MensRights04/10/23 08:21 PM
7

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/23 12:53 PM
-1

Dude, chill out. I guess a way to describe it is that women pursue things that make them unhappy in different ways than men do, and I have found that I can better understand and deal with the women in my life by being attuned to this. I am sorry the idea seems to offend you so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 05:26 PM
1

I would've sounded just like you 10 years ago. This is an age thing in two ways (1) it has taken me a long time to start understanding the patterns, and (2) in my experience, the difference between men and women become more pronounced as we age. I think that men, in our culture, are taught to not really try to figure out how women work. I shake my head at it now, but I spent years believing that it gave me a moral high-ground to assume that men and women were the same. I now recognize that this …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 03:20 PM
1

IMO, it is not the same. Men and women both have flaws, but the flaws are not identical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 02:31 AM
14

You shouldn't feel pressure to present in any kind of way, by virtue of your interest in men's issues. Everyone is welcome in the movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 05:22 PM
3

Women are full of paradoxes. They both want and don't want the same thing. They chase after things that make them unhappy, once obtained.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 04:30 PM
19

And dudes are expected to date single moms. Clown world.
/r/MensRights01/10/23 08:15 PM
4

Is there something wrong with the idea the men need a women like a fish needs a bicycle? Do they suddenly find that hurtful?
/r/MensRights01/10/23 06:09 PM
1

One example would be the Department of Education Title IX due-process regulations put in place during the Trump administration. These were an effort to grant protections to students (basically 100% men) who were accused of sexual misconduct on college campuses. In the absence of these regulations, schools were holding basically kangaroo courts, where male student were deprived of the most basic rights necessary to defend themselves--things like lack of notice of the specific charges against them…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/23 02:56 PM
3

The left is uniformly hostile to men's issues on every level, while significant politicians on the right have at least recognized that there is an issue (eg Josh Hawle and Marco Rubio). I'm sorry, but you are way off here. For all their faults, the right is at least open to the idea that men's issues need to be discussed more. I get that you don't like Andrew Tate or Fresh & Fit, but being on the right is not one of their defining characteristic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 11:05 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 08:12 PM
22

Sure groups like MGTOW exist. But we all know how that went. How did it go? In my understanding, the MGTOW label was quickly growing until social media companies stamped it out. That slowed things down, but the philosophy continues to grow under different names. As you correctly observed, it was demonized, just like all instances of reclusive men are demonized.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 06:08 PM
3

Welcome to the club!
/r/MensRights23/09/23 06:05 PM
-3

ideological difference, not something innate to gender. What about ideological difference correlated to gender? If correlations are present, but we blind themselves to the implications of that (why do the correlations arise?), then we are handicapping ourselves by discarding information, and thus demonstrating a lack of commitment to solving the actual men's issues. It just means that choice has more to do with their own ideas than gender I'm with you there, but if there is a correlation to be a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 05:23 PM
4

Our culture has a taboo again pointing out things that women are doing wrong. Alison Tieman illustrates this with a challenge, "Try to complete the sentence, 'women really need to . . .', without getting in trouble." As a result of this taboo, it is common for people in the men's issues space to hedge with language such as, "It is not women I'm talking about, but feminists." What OP wrote struck me as this kind of taboo-based hedging. Of course, that assumption was based on my observations and l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 05:16 PM
4

Welcome to the community. Tons of men have experienced similar, and I hope you can find a supportive place here.
/r/MensRights22/09/23 01:02 PM
-7

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is a men vs women problem. I think it's a feminists vs men's rights problem. Isn't that denying women agency? Your assuming that, if you don't like what they are doing, they must be the puppets of some other force. I think this is infantilizing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 12:56 PM
1

How can I even argue with this. Use this as a learning experience, and be prepared to update your understand of how women think. Try to understand her thought process, as much as you try to convince her, and remember that her thought process is not something you can control.
/r/MensRights21/09/23 05:40 PM
5

That stat is a total fiction--like many of the "fact" feminists toss around. Their strategy is not to have reliable facts; it is to shame, demonize, falsely accuse, and otherwise destroy the people who question their claims.
/r/MensRights20/09/23 12:51 PM
10

I'm confused because, is this not considered discrimination? . . . How the hell did they get away with it? People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 06:04 PM
2

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 01:25 PM
3

You are on the way up. Stay focused and protect your MEAT (money, energy, attention, and time), and your future will be beautiful. At 20, you should focused much more on the future than the present.
/r/TheRedPill17/09/23 09:13 PM
7

Unfortunately, they are not "self appointed academics." Instead, they are appointed by some of most powerful institutions in our society, which have been ideologically captured.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 09:09 PM
15

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 09:07 PM
47

Because they blame men for everything.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 07:35 PM
5

Because people don't care about men.
/r/MensRights17/09/23 02:12 PM
69

How rude of those accused to try to defend themselves and not just accept ruination! Don't they know they are supposed to be disposable!
/r/MensRights17/09/23 02:11 PM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 04:56 PM
2

That's a deep and interesting question. The fact that they feel disgust is obvious and plain from watching their reactions. IMO, the psychological root is that it is taboo to violate the norm of male disposability.
/r/MensRights15/09/23 06:40 PM
27

The idea of people caring about men disgusts a lot of people.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 04:05 PM
6

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 02:30 PM
19

When they exist, they are labeled "hate groups." E.g, checkout xycrew.com. This is how much our society hates men.
/r/MensRights11/09/23 10:34 PM
11

r/mensrights
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/23 11:54 PM
19

If the world can make a woman smile by throwing a man in the garbage, it will.
/r/MensRights10/09/23 04:12 PM
2

Doesn’t that inherently mean that this chart is rigged to push men down vs try to actually crunch the numbers on the subject? Yes, it's almost as if feminism isn't about equality.
/r/MensRights07/09/23 07:35 PM
8

And, "As long as the man isn't expressing anything to deny that men have unqualified privilege in our society."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/23 08:00 PM
9

This is an explicit part of their methodology. If women are doing better than men, this is considered equality. It is Orwellian nonsense, how they justify this: Our aim is to focus on whether the gap between women and men in the chosen indicators has declined, rather than whether women are winning the so-called “battle of the sexes”. Hence, the index rewards countries that reach the point where outcomes for women equal those for men, but it neither rewards nor penalizes cases in which women are …
/r/MensRights01/09/23 12:34 PM
28

But, of course, mention one shortcoming that a woman has, and the knives come out. They love handing out disrespect, but can't handle receiving even a molecule of it.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 11:51 PM
3

It is so important.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 01:55 PM
16

Without saying more, for fear of being removed by the mods, I would point out the coincidence of the university populations becoming more and more female and the institutions becoming more and more anti-male. [Edit. No shade meant towards the mods. They recognize the need to censor, else be banned by the reddit admins.]
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/23 12:29 AM
10

Nice! Keep it up!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/23 07:41 PM
6

People do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/23 02:54 PM
26

When feminists say, "men should express their emotions," what they really mean is, "men should say things that make us feel good." If you doubt me, try expressing to a feminist an emotion she feels you shouldn't have (e.g., express a feeling of disempowerment).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/23 07:46 PM
1

Yes, it is sarcasm.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 02:39 PM
8

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 06:27 PM
12

It isn't hate when it is targeted at men because men are sub-human.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 12:56 PM
31

I feel like young men of all races are told they need to hustle--though the language used may be different. This is because our society views men as disposable, and only values the ones at the top.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/23 12:55 PM
0

Of course. Empathy is only for women.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 01:04 AM
2

This seems very contradictory and does the opposite of destroying this supposed “patriarchy”. Feminists have no problem with contradiction. Whatever they feel is right, even though oftentimes their feelings conflict.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 05:38 PM
2

1,000 guys wake up every day.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 04:59 PM
3

I have a hard time rationalizing this, People don't care about men. Simple as.
/r/MensRights12/08/23 01:59 PM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/23 12:28 PM
27

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/23 08:59 PM
80

I've been told by one feminist woman that because I feel attracted to women on the street whom I don't know, it means I'm a potential rapist. That's a good example of how crazy that belief system is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/23 06:56 PM
42

Men are always blamed, because women lash out emotionally at any criticism. And we can't have that because people care about how women feel, but don't care about men.
/r/MensRights04/08/23 01:35 PM
29

Exactly right.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 07:21 PM
10

All the woke stuff empowers psychopaths.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 12:58 PM
1

Yes, that's an example of the empathy gap (a/k/a male disposability).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 12:57 PM
1

Holy mackerel! The claimed effect sizes are enormous. Eg mean weight loss of 50lbs.
/r/Male_Studies02/08/23 06:40 PM
1

Yes, I think a lot of men feel this way, but do not express it (other than anonymously) because they know that doing so would only produce negative consequences for them. Please remember that you are not alone. Try not to obsess about the negative. There is still so much beauty in the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 05:50 PM
22

I would encourage you to learn more about the empathy gap (or the related concept of male disposability). Your response sounds like you see it as a mixed-bag issue. If you study it more, I believe the evidence would convince you it is not: it is a reliable fact of human psychology, albeit subject to a few exceptions. Here is a good, evidence-focused book on the topic[1]. Please note that the fact that the empathy gap is a problem men need to deal with does not imply that I don't think women also…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 05:20 PM
7

MensLib out to prove that they are the "good ones," in hopes that women will like them.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 01:41 PM
45

It is an issue of the empathy gap. People don't care about men and care very much about women. So bad things that happen to men are ignored, while bad things that happen to women are inflated. This cognitive bias affects all areas of life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 01:36 PM
8

What specifically is driving this? Perhaps if the left were to chill out on overtly demonizing and slandering them, boys would be less drawn to the right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 01:28 PM
2

Not at all. Many, many men are angered and triggered over it. But we generally stay silent because we understand that men are disposable and that objecting to this (or really to anything) can easily lead to reputation destruction and ostracism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 12:42 PM
7

She wants to get married so she can drop the act she's been putting of for 7 years.
/r/MensRights30/07/23 01:19 PM
19

It is just one of many shaming tactics used against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/23 12:55 PM
1

It isn't that the movement "didn't work out." (Check out the marriage-rate trends.) But it has been fractured into several rebrandings as a result of censorship.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 06:55 PM
14

we can offer a clear and focused notion of self-care for men who have, like myself, wrapped their sense of self and self esteem/ around the attention and touch of a woman Up until a few years ago, there was a thriving movement focused on men re-directing their psychic energies and finding a sense of purpose that wasn't centered on women. The movement was/is called MGTOW ("men going their own way"). As you would expect, it, admittedly, had a substantial element of misogyny--like how an alcohol ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 02:41 PM
31

The reality is much more complicated than the feminist say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 04:11 PM
3

People don't care about men. But have you guys ever opened up to a woman about men’s issues? Yes, many times, and it has been an immense learning experience. (Very frustrating, but also educational.) Watching women's reaction[1] to the idea that men have issues has helped me greatly in understanding women. [1] Willful blindness, deception, shaming, threat narratives, emotional manipulation.
/r/MensRights26/07/23 04:10 PM
35

Hatred of males is widespread in our society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/23 03:51 PM
1

It was probably her oppression that led her to act out for attention like that. Maybe we could make her feel better by sacrificing a random man.
/r/MensRights25/07/23 02:04 PM
3

Women only think about the men at the top. Other men are irrelevant for them. This is "hypergamy." People often talk about hypergamy in relationships, but it is just as true in politics. When women say they want "equality with men," what they mean is that they want all women to be equal with the handful of men at the top. This is because, to them, all the other men are irrelevant and subhuman.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 06:19 PM
57

How is this progressive? Maybe progressives aren't really who you think they are.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 12:10 PM
3

I can't speak frankly about it because it is easy to get censored in this sub[1] for saying things about women, so I will just point out that, obviously, within female psychology playing hard-to-get for a man you want to be gotten by makes sense. Otherwise they wouldn't do it. [1] Not that I fully blame the mods, because they are likely trying to stay safe with reddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/23 01:11 PM
7

Great post.
/r/MensRights20/07/23 01:08 PM
35

No, Warren Farrell is great. The claim that he is a rape apologize is an unfounded slander.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/23 05:00 PM
82

And the allegation doesn't even need to be specific. If she says you were "creepy," you're done. That is how disposable men are--and women love male disposability more than anything.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:11 PM
37

Everything about feminism feels like a test on how far narcissistic personalities can go. Sure does.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 03:11 PM
1

Remember that you are young, and you are just at the beginning of figuring these things out. You are getting a dose of reality here. Women live in a world where people kiss their ass 24/7, and yet they are still filled with resentment that, in their eyes, men have it better--because, to women, most men are invisible, and they only think about the handful of men at the top.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:55 PM
140

This person is gross. I can't stand their lack of humility. They've presented as male for 10 minutes, and assumed that they are more emotionally evolved than other men.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:30 PM
4

It doesn't feel real to them, because they only think about the top 1% of men.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:26 PM
2

Don't be confused. Run.
/r/MensRights19/07/23 01:22 PM
47

Women blame men for everything.
/r/MensRights18/07/23 09:05 PM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights18/07/23 09:01 PM
6

Women love shitting on men.
/r/MensRights18/07/23 08:59 PM
5

Absolutely. If you displease a woman, you are demonized. Men are disposable in our society.
/r/MensRights18/07/23 07:25 PM
6

Best of luck. I hope you find success--not only because of the positive change it would mean for the organization, but because it could help change my view of feminists as totally closed-minded to such issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/23 04:51 PM
1

Thanks for weighing in. Do you have any thoughts on the "turn" I got an inkling of from the MHD clips. I.e., does it start out "yay, it's good that women have super powers," but then morph into, "it's a bad thing because these women don't use them responsibly"?
/r/MensRights14/07/23 04:15 PM
0

You meant murderers and assaulters, right? Call them what they are. Dude, it's a TV show where people have super powers. Don't pretend that real harms are being minimized.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 04:13 PM
2

Have you seen it? I would love to hear someone who has explain what's going on with that apparent "turn," I mentioned above. Eg MHD shows a clips where the loser dad, in the end wants a divorce--like he is realizing that he's given up too much ground and that there is no winning with his wife.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 07:01 PM
1

Is this show good? I watched MHD's analysis, and it sounds like maybe the initial setup is "yay, women have this new power," but that there is a turn like, "hold on, women can't be trusted with this power." I haven't seen the show, but am just going from MHD.
/r/MensRights13/07/23 05:58 PM
1

Because they infiltrate everywhere. And then, because men are incapable of saying no to women[1], they make all spaces about feminism. [1] Men's inability here is not just being weak. It is because women are genuinely dangerous backstabbers. They use relational aggression, shaming, threat narratives, etc., to ostracize anyone who disagrees with them.
/r/MensRights12/07/23 01:14 PM
3

lol. I understand.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 08:01 PM
31

FYI, some very dedicated MRAs (Paul Elam, Janice Fiamengo, and Tom Golden) have a breakdown of DAMN and believe it is satire. I.e., it was probably written by someone with MRA views. It is still valuable, because it shows how fucked the system is, but it probably isn't genuine. (Not to deny that there is tons of misandry all over the culture, but I thought you should know.)
/r/MensRights11/07/23 04:50 PM
22

People don't care about men or boys.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 04:48 PM
6

Those women are showing seriously poor emotional intelligence.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 12:53 PM
3

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 02:42 AM
6

When women say they want men to "communicate" they mean they want men to tell them things they want to hear. Unfortunately, men must approach communication cynically--women certainly are.
/r/MensRights10/07/23 07:22 PM
2

People in movies and TV are more attractive than in real life.
/r/MensRights09/07/23 11:12 PM
10

People don't care about men/boys.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 01:14 PM
7

People don't care about men, but they do care about women. So they side with women as a knee-jerk reaction.
/r/MensRights05/07/23 12:51 PM
169

Not giving women whatever they want is misogyny!
/r/MensRights30/06/23 01:06 PM
34

That article writer absolutely sneers as men, as he pretends to stand up for them. This guy wouldn't touch an MRA with a ten-foot pole.
/r/MensRights29/06/23 04:01 AM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights29/06/23 03:55 AM
21

We need to build up male spaces that abide by a "male code," where everyone understands that we are swimming upstream against gynocentrism and male disposability, and we are non-judgemental of other men's journey's through that struggle. We need to do this socially, but there are two big problems: (1) men don't prioritize socializing with other men enough, and (2) when men socialize with other men, it usually revolves around an activity of shared-interest. This means that it is organized based o…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 01:57 PM
4

In my experience/opinion, this is simply female nature. I come to that from years of talking to women about men's issues[1]. Women see men as disposable[2], and they do not feel the least bit bad about it. [1] While this is a very frustrating activity, I strongly recommend it. You don't understand women until you see (if your experience matches my own) how incapable they are of having human empathy for men as a group. [2] Of course, they might actually care for a small number of men who are clos…
/r/MensRights26/06/23 07:12 PM
3

Really the minimum anyone could expect.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 01:11 AM
59

This is just how it is. People don't care about men, in general, but women are highly focused on the small handful of men at the top. There is no talking them out of it. As far as I can tell, this is simply female nature.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 03:43 PM
3

People don't care about men, but they do care about women. Expect society to operate accordingly.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 09:07 PM
2

It is not about arguments or truth. It is about social power. Women hold the social power, and then want men to bow down to it.
/r/MensRights23/06/23 04:06 PM
2

Correct, this is just how things are, and how women want them to be. Get used to it, and adjust accordingly the role you allow women to play in your life.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 04:29 PM
2

Didn't you get the memo? Women are victims, always, everywhere, in any circumstance. All bad things are because of men. Sheez, get with it!
/r/MensRights21/06/23 05:09 PM
1

I'm not talking about "banter/fun" (which tends to go only one way, anyway, because women like to dish it but can't take it). I'm talking about true man-hating lying just beneath the surface whenever I broad a relevant topic to women.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 05:24 PM
9

Their wives are treating them like shit and they don’t even realize it. They accept it as normal and fine. There is a lot of that going around.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 04:13 PM
3

There is a constellation of related ideas: male dominance, alpha male, male privilege. These are all artifacts of the female point of view of men. Women's perception filters out most men, and focuses on the few men at the top. They are preoccupied with this small group of powerful/wealthy/attractive men, and the other 90% of us are irrelevant. So, yes, "male dominance" exists in the the sense that it is how women see the world, and how they see the world is important. As far as "male dominance" …
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:54 PM
3

Could you give me details? I'm trying to be slow to judge, since this seems really political. What has he admitted to?
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:43 PM
16

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 01:44 PM
2

Then you are lucky who you associate with. I hear women openly dumping on men, in person, regularly.
/r/MensRights18/06/23 03:51 PM
79

Yeah, I never see misandry anywhere except reddit. /s
/r/MensRights17/06/23 01:34 PM
32

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights17/06/23 01:34 PM
72

Exactly this.
/r/MensRights16/06/23 07:49 PM
1

This would be genuine progress.
/r/MensRights10/06/23 11:12 AM
38

I get it. I love kids, but I am too worried about male disposability/demonization to spend much time with them.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 10:57 AM
15

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 06:16 PM
5

How can we get more women to understand men's issues? Unfortunately, we can't. Nor can I give further explanation without violating this sub's rules against unflattering observations about women (which this sub's mod's define as "demonizing" women).[1] I'll try to thread the needle by saying this: if your personal experience shows you that women do not care about men as a group, then you are justified in reaching your own conclusion about what women are like. There are other places in the men's-…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/23 05:13 PM
26

Because people don't care about men, the very idea of men's issues or men's communities makes them uncomfortable, so they try to shut it down. The two relational-aggression tools they use for this are: shaming and threat narratives. This means that they seek out the most easily attacked offshoots of the MRM and elevate those in order to de-legitimize the whole thing. (It is precisely this pattern where the mainstream refuses to actually engage with our issues that motives movements like MGTOW to…
/r/MensRights30/05/23 07:13 PM
17

You are getting dangerously close to noticing patterns in society that we aren't supposed to notice!
/r/MensRights30/05/23 05:30 PM
4

It definitely sucks. I am tempted to say more about how this silence and isolation is imposed upon us . . . but I can't because criticizing the source isn't allowed in this sub. (Tells you something about left-wing spaces.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/23 11:28 AM
25

I also feel like I cannot speak about them casually in public – not to get stigmatised as weird or problematic. Perhaps that's fine: I don't need to speak about these issues, even though they concern me personally, and interest intellectually. It is not fine. You should be free to voice reasonable beliefs. So, is the only possibility to shut up about men's issues Likely so. The culture of the left today is a "cancel culture," which means that it is not suitable for bona fide communication. Under…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/23 02:44 AM
25

Welcome! It is great to hear from women who are able to recognize men's issues; most women can't. Please have patience and tolerance as you delve into this world. Most women (probably not you) shut down discussion of men's issues using two tools: (1) shaming (you must be an ugly incel), and (2) threat narratives (you are scary and probably violent). These underhanded tactics are deployed almost all the time, and they are almost always effective. They have had two effects (1) silencing mainstream…
/r/MensRights27/05/23 02:35 AM
7

People don't care about men. Be careful out there.
/r/MensRights26/05/23 01:51 AM
5

I'm asking for why the average left leaning person thinks this. By this I mean the way lefty culture is now Because the culture of the left does not care about you or your wellbeing, as a man. This is an aspect of the left that this sub hopes to change, but that is a distant goal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/23 12:52 AM
12

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 04:01 PM
1

Thanks for the post. I feel you, bro.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/23 03:38 PM
17

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 03:33 PM
26

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights21/05/23 03:51 PM
2

People will believe anything awful about men.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 01:22 PM
1

It is great to see men's issues talked about, albeit that the tradcon take is not what men really need.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 01:15 PM
9

People don't care about men, but they do care about women. So, in any encounter between the genders, the men will be read as the bad guy.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 01:04 PM
1

Yep. Of course, this is an example of the naturalistic fallacy.[1] Just because a phenomenon has an evolutionary cause does not mean that it is morally acceptable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
/r/MensRights13/05/23 08:37 PM
7

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights13/05/23 06:20 PM
15

These movies are made because there is an audience (women) for them.
/r/MensRights11/05/23 06:14 PM
-10

It is not hypocrisy; it is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights10/05/23 08:40 PM
-2

I like him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/23 01:53 PM
11

The exclusive focus on women's struggles does not reflect that their struggles are worse than men's. It reflects that people care about women and do not care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/23 03:11 PM
3

It's not hypocrisy; it's hierarchy.
/r/MensRights27/04/23 01:20 PM
4

What do you mean by the "capitalist class"? Capitalism, we we know it, has only existed for a few hundred years, not thousands. Are you sure that you are not blaming capitalism for problems it didn't cause?
/r/MensRights24/04/23 06:22 PM
152

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/23 12:41 PM
0

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 08:07 PM
1

They do not see men as human beings deserving of basic fairness and decency.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 08:09 PM
8

Your feelings are totally valid, and you should understand this as a serious issue as to Sirine's suitability as a partner. Simply put, she is spiritually aligned against you. She will not listen to you and does not want to listen to you because of your birth characteristics. She should be with someone she spiritually aligns with, and you should not put your self through the punishment of a relationship with someone who is against you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 02:04 PM
1

There are a lot of premises baked into that question.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 01:52 PM
25

People do not care about men. Warren Farrell did a great job of articulating this in, "The Myth of Male Power" (1993). The focus we see in society and academia on women's issues is not because women have more serious issues; it is because women are who people care about. I am glad that you are becoming aware of the history of this topic, and I encourage you to delve deeper. Deep enough, perhaps, to wonder why, even in this men's issues subreddit, my comment would be banned if I pointed to women'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/23 03:29 PM
2

It literally feels like, as soon as a woman is given power, they are like, "I must use this to humiliate men and inflate women." Like how Jeff Bezos' ex-wife is like, "I'll use by billions for women!"
/r/MensRights11/04/23 03:56 PM
25

Studies have demonstrated this "Women are Wonderful" effect for years, but the establishment doesn't take interest in them because it is not what they want to hear. It isn't hypocrisy; it is hierarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/23 01:08 PM
14

It isn't hypocrisy; it is hierarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/23 04:01 PM
26

Blatant, pure hate.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 04:27 PM
8

The hilarious part of it is when the AI "women" get framed as victims upon whom men are indulging in their toxicity. See eg movies "Wifelike," and "Ex Machina."
/r/MensRights27/03/23 03:55 PM
0

I could imagine being a women listening to this not knowing any better and thinking this is all facts. That's right. We need to restructure our life strategies in dealing with women to account for the fact that this generation of women has been brainwashed to hate men. It’s laughable honestly.. I enjoy the class because it makes me laugh. Sad. Could you imagine the amount of truth and value a red-pilled social psychology class could deliver? But that's not allowed because everything in life must…
/r/MensRights25/03/23 01:09 PM
2

"Men at the top" is mostly a female construct. Hypergamy leads them to focus their attention intensely at a few men--those are the men at the top.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 06:30 PM
5

Part of male disposability is that only the men at the top matter.
/r/MensRights23/03/23 07:04 PM
7

Yes. When men disagree with women, it may trigger fear in them (and women's culture validates these feelings of spontaneous/unpredictable fear). And if she feels fear, then he must be being abusive.
/r/MensRights23/03/23 12:40 AM
2

Welcome! Keep exploring, and brace yourself for how deep the rabbit hole goes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/23 03:14 PM
60

Women run hot/cold on whether they hate men or not. When a guy who they consider below them asks them out, the hate flares up. When it's an attractive guy, all is good. It's not so fun for us men to be on the receiving end of these emotional swings.
/r/MensRights21/03/23 03:12 PM
10

Do you talk about these issues with people in real life, if so how? I strongly recommend that you start talking to people in real life about this stuff--not because the conversations will be pleasant, but because you will learn a lot about their true nature.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/23 05:33 PM
12

Sickening.
/r/MensRights18/03/23 12:23 PM
1

The framing in this article is hilarious. Totally gyocentric.
/r/MensRights09/03/23 08:57 PM
2

Yeah, this is a day when even women who don't usually bring it up reveal how special and better-than-men they consider themselves.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 07:30 PM
2

Simple, they are saying what they think.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 07:40 PM
1

It will never end.
/r/MensRights06/03/23 06:51 PM
2

Women think that they want men to communicate, but the truth is that the is a very small list of things that they want the man to say. If he deviates from that list, she punishes him with an immediate emotional reaction, and then ongoing passive aggressive punishment. (This is my own experience, but I feel it is pretty extensive.)
/r/MensRights01/03/23 02:13 PM
83

Your around-the-house story is an example of a general principle: women do not want to hear anything from men about how women are supposed to be (including, as shown in this case, how their household is supposed to run).[1] The rule is: they tell us; we don't tell them. If we try to tell them something, they will have an emotional reaction, as if they were being abused, and they will often use their social power (which is massive) to turn others against us. [1] The main exceptions to this are: (…
/r/MensRights27/02/23 06:39 PM
1

Are you saying that it is a conspiracy? That seems doubtful to me. More like people expressing their true tendencies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 02:39 PM
9

I really like your framing of "women need to be protected from different things," however I don't think it is inconsistent my description of male disposability. Perhaps they are just different phrasing to describe the same phenomenon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 12:19 AM
41

Sorry to be a downer, but I would be extremely surprised if that take turns out to be right. The "gender is a social construct" thing cuts against us. People instinctually value women, but see men as disposable. And people shame men for mentioning this disparity because, who wants the disposable part to start complaining? The "social construct" idea is another club to stop men from pointing this problem out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 08:29 PM
64

I am hopeful that eventually, they will start caring. That would be great, but, because I've followed men's issues for a lot of years, I am skeptical. I expect that, as men's issues become harder and harder to deny, society will land on the view that, it sucks to be a man because men suck.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 06:21 PM
5

For men to start feeling kinship with each other.
/r/MensRights20/02/23 10:35 PM
1

Ok. Thanks. Sorry I misinterpreted your first response.
/r/MensRights20/02/23 01:30 PM
1

What makes you think that disproportional coverage of harms to women is cause, rather than an effect, of the empathy gap? And the position seems to be begging the question, what caused the tendency to disproportionate coverage, in the first place?
/r/MensRights19/02/23 11:01 PM
3

Additional evidence is always welcome, but it is crazy to me that anyone would think that our world has equal empathy for men and women. Are people's eyes not open? There is VASTLY more empathy for women. The only two ways I can reconcile this blindness is: (1) people are intentionally lying, or (2) non-top-tier men are invisible and do not factor into the thinking, and people figure that top-of-the-heap guys are doing so well that empathy is better spent elsewhere (which is true as far as those…
/r/MensRights19/02/23 10:17 PM
7

Thank you!
/r/MensRights14/02/23 09:36 PM
9

Could you link to the actual report where you have highlighted the two lines?
/r/MensRights14/02/23 08:02 PM
18

Try to take it easy. You are at the beginning of a long journey. While you were a child, they sculpted you to be gynocentric, to look up to and feel closeness with women, and to demonize men. But then life gave you a glimpse of the real truth: male disposability. Be patient with yourself. Men don't finish maturing until their late twenties, so you can expect yourself to naturally become just better and more capable. (Women get this boost earlier, because their whole biology is tuned to get ready…
/r/MensRights14/02/23 01:53 PM
4

Good on you. But I don't mean it as an absolute statement, but rather as a good heuristic for understanding/navigating the world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 01:43 PM
13

People don't care about men. So, yes, people care less--by far.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/23 06:10 PM
9

I hear you. It can be a real shock walking around thinking that men and women get equal dignity and empathy for our culture, and then you say something standing up for men and get dogpiled in the coldest way. Tbh, your example is very much swimming in the shallow end of the pool. This same hierarchy applies when things get serious, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 03:01 PM
8

Enough for what? Enough for you to change your mind and life strategies? Then only you can decide. Enough for society to stop treating men as disposable? Don't hold your breath.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/23 09:09 PM
8

You are 100% correct. But people won't care about this because people don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 03:11 PM
1

Banning is the usual response for them.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 06:54 PM
16

It goes on and on. Literally, they believe they oppressed by not having large pockets, and for their shoes being uncomfortable. So, of course, menopause oppresses them.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:57 PM
0

Similar has happened to me, though not on about Leo. In our culture, gynocentric views are the only ones allowed.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 02:04 PM
2

Irrelevant, is who they are.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 01:53 PM
7

It is controlling behavior by women. They do not want spaces to exist where men can talk to each other without female monitoring.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 02:01 PM
4

The question is a joke, right?
/r/MensRights06/02/23 07:39 PM
3

What about the answer: the left's refusal to take up men's issues demonstrates that the left does not, in fact, stand for the principles you say it stands for?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/23 04:41 AM
3

Here is my counter-argument that men's issues has a more natural home on the right (though, of course, I support sympathy for men, regardless of what direction it comes from). The left/right distinction relates to how much central planning/authority/government you want society to have. The right is skeptical of the government's ability to provide useful solutions. This is because those solutions need to be crafted by bureaucrats, who are limited by their own prejudices and lack of information. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 07:06 PM
3

And misogyny in our culture is any time people feel less than glowing thought about women.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 04:03 PM
17

I think it has to do with the fact that most therapists will deny the man's life experience about the struggles he faces.
/r/MensRights04/02/23 02:54 PM
8

I don't think it is fair to call it "on the left" when the reality on the ground is that the established leaders on the left won't touch it with a 10 foot pole, while leaders on the right are more receptive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 02:53 PM
1

The only position men are allowed to have is uncomplicated, total support for women. Anything else is consider misogyny.
/r/MensRights03/02/23 07:43 PM
26

How strange that, after positions fill up with women, transforming the work environment into a magical, beautiful, empathic place, the men choose to leave paradise. /s
/r/MensRights02/02/23 09:01 PM
19

Yes, it is a slight exaggeration, but whenever asking the question, "Why do people not seem to care about men's issue X," most of the answer is that they don't care bout men's issues because they don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/23 05:45 PM
37

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/23 05:38 PM
2

Great video!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/23 05:00 PM
27

And the office is staffed entirely with feminists, so they will be looking for any possible pretext for dismissing the complaints.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:33 PM
14

They can't even see how they leave men out. As far as they are concerned, only the men at the top exist, so they cannot fathom why those guys should receive any concern.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/23 11:32 PM
2

But they are still oppressed because all women do not out-earn the men at the top--i.e., the only men who are visible to them.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 09:33 PM
7

It is nice to see these points finally being made, at least somewhat, on more mainstream platforms. But I've been in this long enough to become jaded and wonder if this isn't spitting into a hurricane.
/r/MensRights01/02/23 04:26 PM
6

You're no longer allowed to criticize women This is exactly the standard in our culture. Men can be trashed with no end, but any even minor criticisms of women are forbidden and labeled as misogyny. It isn't hypocrisy. It is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 06:43 PM
6

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/23 11:55 PM
1

Try not to get too frustrated, but use it as a learning experience. You will encounter a LOT of women in your life like this.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 02:08 PM
3

Yes, but she leverages plausible deniability. It is like, if, for whatever knowable or unknowable reason, she's not happy with me, she gets real unenthusiastic, to the point where it's not worth it. It's really shitty.
/r/MensRights18/01/23 05:26 PM
1

Yes, the situation is disheartening. Just try to take it easy and keep moving forward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/23 03:56 PM
7

90% of men are invisible. Society only sees the top 10%. And those top-tier guys are, indeed privileged.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 02:02 AM
12

Not an inherently bad idea, but mark me as very skeptical, given the current toxic, man-hating climate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/23 02:16 PM
6

It is not hypocrisy, it is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights07/01/23 08:07 PM
2

Oops, my bad. I though Eberstandt worked at Brookings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 04:19 PM
3

Thanks, the backing by Brookings is a very important point. In fact, I would say that Brookings is starting to take the blinders off when respect to men's issues. They have also produced the recently updated "Men Without Work," by Nicholas Eberstandt, and Isabel Sawhill there has done work on the disparity between government support for 4-year college versus vocational training (which is really also a men's issue). Do these data points mean, as you suggest, a broad left-wing pivot on men? Only t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/23 12:59 PM
4

This is like a new version of Warren Farrell. We've had kind, soft-spoken, sincere experts trying to explain this for at least 20 years (Warren published "The Myth of Male Power in 1993"). Of course, Warren was ignored and demonized, and his male advocacy ruined in career. We'll see if Reeves fares any better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 08:58 PM
10

You observation is exactly right, and is why we need to focus on building male spaces that reject disposability.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 08:38 PM
6

Is this real? I have never heard of the site reporting it.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 09:35 PM
3

People don't care about men. You will never find them applying equivalent standards.
/r/MensRights03/01/23 04:35 PM
29

Not a joke. I remember when this happened, and it was a big step in my learning to understand male disposability and distrust the media. There were a number of stories of this type at the time. The issue was that suicide rates increased for both men and women. When measured as a percentage increase, it looked like women were hardest hit--so that is how the media framed it. But percentage increase was a misleading measure because the baseline is for men to commit suicide vastly more than women. I…
/r/MensRights31/12/22 10:38 AM
1

Because attraction is not a choice. They are trying to reject men, but when attraction pops up, that sweeps their feminist programming away (at least for the moment).
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:39 PM
6

It's not hypocrisy; it's hierarchy.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 07:37 PM
12

Blue pill men have bought into the "men are the problem" story. They have essentially handed over their balls to women. Why? Because they thought it would make women like them. Did it? No. But they feel that, at least, they should be seen as above the guys who didn't hand over their balls, which is they will try to tear down men who don't believe "men are the problem."
/r/MensRights29/12/22 02:37 PM
2

It is not hypocrisy. It is hierarchy.
/r/MensRights29/12/22 01:41 PM
13

That's the hierarchy: women > men. Most people think this way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/22 01:50 PM
1

If there are lots of women who disagree, I wish they wouldn't be so quiet about it. Indeed, their silence tells us something about them, too.
/r/MensRights23/12/22 01:06 AM
1

Feminists create misogyny every day.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 07:49 PM
1

I love cooking too.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 01:39 PM
7

I can totally relate. As someone who has gone through cycles of that kind of feeling, I can at least advise you that you won't necessarily feel this emotional impact forever. I am not recommending that you tune out, but that you observe and learn. People are telling you who they are, and it is not what you expected. Learn from what you see and think how you can adjust your life strategies to swim in these new waters.
/r/MensRights20/12/22 08:07 PM
2

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 08:43 PM
5

All the studies currently existing say the range is between 2-10%. But these studies are nonsense. They assume that any accusation that is not definitive proven false must be true. It make no sense to treat all the gray-evidence accusations as true.
/r/MensRights16/12/22 02:48 PM
14

This demonstrates to success of Matt Walsh's, "What is a Woman?" film than anything else.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:24 PM
7

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:16 PM
35

The problem is worse now than it was in 2017.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/22 09:21 PM
24

Spreading hate.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:02 PM
20

Why won't men just do everything all the time exactly how women want it!?!
/r/MensRights14/12/22 02:02 PM
4

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights13/12/22 08:05 PM
3

Women almost always prioritize other women.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 05:16 PM
2

People don't care about men, and they only notice the men at the top (no pun).
/r/MensRights12/12/22 02:20 PM
70

It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 11:45 PM
1

I agree that most of that content is cringy, but I think it is important to recognize just how difficult a problem they are trying to tackle. Nobody could land that subject perfectly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/22 11:43 PM
2

Please let me know if you create such a subreddit and I would be interested in joining it. However, I am skeptical that such a subreddit could ever be consistent with the rules of this subreddit because it would involve men talking about bad experiences with women, and that seems to be taboo/forbidden here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/22 11:40 PM
33

Catering to women, who guide something like 85% of consumer decisions.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 02:01 AM
289

Have you seen a movie or TV show lately? Women are conditioning each other to see men as the enemy.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 08:10 PM
1

I'm glad you learned more something about feminists. I encourage you to keep asking these questions of women--not because I expect you to get useful (or even coherent) responses but because it will help you learn more about women (even those who claim to not be feminists).
/r/MensRights10/12/22 07:50 PM
3

This whole generation of girls is being raised to see men as the enemy. And the people doing it are their mothers, who evidently already see men as the enemy. Gentlemen, change your life strategies accordingly.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:31 PM
3

Lol, "all they could do is stay quiet and flinch like helpless animals in captivity."
/r/MensRights09/12/22 02:27 PM
13

No way, demonize a discourage half the population from birth, and they have worse life outcomes. Go figure.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 01:10 AM
48

Spoiler alert, they still think so.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 01:02 AM
1

Shaming and threat narratives are what they use to shut us down. The truth is, they don't care about men and it makes them uncomfortable for men to not accept being disposable utility objects.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 06:46 PM
8

AI holding up a clear mirror on our society!
/r/MensRights07/12/22 07:28 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 05:44 PM
9

Our society has a rule: men must feel nothing but straightforward positivity and support towards women; women can think men are trash. Just another example of male disposability.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 02:54 PM
31

I trust the media about 0% to report honestly on this.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 01:19 AM
4

Isn't it amazing how blind people are?
/r/MensRights05/12/22 01:12 AM
6

They will always have an excuse to not care about any men's issue you name--because it's not about the issue. They don't care about men.
/r/MensRights05/12/22 01:06 AM
21

men have been completely cucked. It is because our hearts are too open to women, so that when the women betrayed us it penetrated deep into our psyche.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 05:02 PM
2

People don't care about men, so of course they will find a reason to dismiss men's issues. Name and issue, and they will have an excuse to not care--but it will be an excuse.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:58 PM
95

It is amazing how thoroughly men have been alienated from their own nature.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:54 PM
25

People don't care about men. They care about women. Facts and figures don't change that. They will continue to focus on what ills women because that's who they care about. That said, these kinds of factual awareness-raising posts are always positive and welcome. Thank you for making it.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 07:41 PM
2

My God, man. That is a brutal experience. I see other messages encouraging you to sue the accuser and detective. That's fine, but I wouldn't get my hopes too high. You've seen how the system works. It is intended to protect them, and doesn't care about you. It is a long road to recover from an experience like the one you've had. Try to stay sane and recognize that healing takes time. I feel terrible for you, and I wish you only the best.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 02:59 PM
35

I'm not surprised about the Biden administration, but tbh, I'm pleased this ran in NewWeek (at least online).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/22 02:45 AM
0

And while he (who suffers from bipolar disorder) is going through a well-documented manic episode sounds like the perfect time to finalize that legal agreement. /s
/r/MensRights01/12/22 01:58 PM
1

I really feel for you, dude. The current attitude of feminist women in relationships is rough. I don't know if it is (1) feminism has gotten harsher, and they follow the hive mind (which would imply the potential for improvement), or (2) female nature is revealing itself (which would imply that we need to re-think the place we allow women to occupy in our lives).
/r/MensRights30/11/22 02:37 AM
11

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights29/11/22 05:35 PM
2

It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 02:25 PM
5

This is the truth. Nobody is coming to help us. The demonization will continue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/22 01:53 AM
5

Corporations realizing that men's issues are now "safe" for them to mine for gold may actually be a good thing. This is a good point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/22 01:50 AM
2

Man haters like to pretend that mass shootings reveal something deep about what men are like--even though it represents about 0% of men.
/r/MensRights28/11/22 01:39 AM
2

LMAO. That's the hierarchy, right there.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 03:18 PM
-1

That is obviously true, but is not within our control. All men can do is accept the truth of female nature and adjust.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 07:17 PM
2

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 07:12 PM
22

This is absolutely true. For example, the Boy Scouts now admits girls, but the Girls Scouts excludes boys, and always will.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 06:59 PM
5

"My understand of your history is that, when you first tried to broach men's issues, you expected your feminist colleagues (and perhaps women more generally) to be at least somewhat receptive to the idea. The way you have described their reaction, I think was the opposite. Given your 30 years of experience with resistance to even the basic notion that men's issues deserve a place in the conversation, has that changed your assessment women's nature, or of how men should think about their relation…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 03:59 PM
6

Power move.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 03:06 PM
0

I encouraged him to gather his own evidence by speaking to more women about this topic, and then draw his own conclusions about female nature. Does that make you uncomfortable? It is a taboo in our culture, the very idea that men would try to understand women--but, of course, not the reverse.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:45 PM
5

Looks like you learned something about women here. I recommend engaging in a some more conversations like this with other women--not because you might persuade them, because I doubt you will--but so that you can learn more about female nature.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 10:13 PM
4

What is your take on how representative the feelings on TwoXChromosomes are of women, in general? In my experience, at least my cohort of women (white, college educated) generally share the TwoXChromosomes attitude--even if they do not constantly express it.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 10:04 PM
2

Wonderful!
/r/MensRights16/11/22 09:59 PM
2

People don't care about men. The people who want to discriminate against you have the upper hand. Think strategically and long term. There is no way to fix it in the short term. If you complain, it will probably go poorly for you because you are considered disposable anyway. You, and the rest of us, have suffered a very deep betrayal.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 06:06 PM
1

Yep.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:48 PM
3

That's right, and they love to remind us of it.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 02:47 PM
1

It is a justification women latch on to for their lack of having human compassion for men.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 02:05 AM
2

That is how much we men want women to like us. Most men simply do not know how to say no to them.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 03:06 PM
4

Same strategy. New word.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:52 PM
3

This is how it has always been. When feminists are confronted with counter-evidence, they jump immediately to (1) shaming (you are a loser) and (2) threat narratives (you are scaring me, you must be an abuser in private, you want to hurt women). "Incel" is just the trendy word that suits this purpose. As a former feminist, it initially shocked me to see that this is how it works. It really demonstrates how we do not have a counter-party to have a conversation with.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:50 PM
2

I advise keeping your relationships with women at work very perfunctory. Just communicate as needed, about the work. Society allows them to be comfortable, loose and casual, knowing that the world inherently sees them in a positive light. But, for us men, it is the opposite.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:39 PM
2

This would be amazing!
/r/MensRights11/11/22 03:23 PM
9

Ah, the occasional feminist musing that boys might be thrown a table scrap from the buffet of encouragement and validation girls enjoy.
/r/MensRights11/11/22 03:19 PM
2

We can't change the fact that people don't care. I do not see a solution. Do you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/22 03:11 PM
2

Or they are in the mood for a compliment. However, in each of these cases it is discard after use.
/r/MensRights11/11/22 02:00 PM
1

Adjust your life strategies accordingly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/22 01:59 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights11/11/22 12:06 AM
4

(1) The widely shared data about men not having sex all predates the Dobbs decision, so their rational for dismissing the concern makes no sense. (2) They don't care about men, which means that they will not care about this issue or any other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 02:29 PM
9

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 02:48 PM
5

And these days the whole world works like that.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 02:42 PM
3

Please, by all means, express yourself. Talk to people in your circle, or make content for mass consumption. Help to wake up other men, and point out the hypocrisy to women (even though, in my experience, they don't care). All of this helps, and I would never want to discourage you.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 09:33 PM
3

I believe people should have equal rights. This just ain’t it. But how can we shift the paradigm? Unfortunately, the paradigm is very stable because people do not care about men, but they do care about women, and women want to have this power over men. But, even if we can't change the paradigm, we can understand it and adjust our life strategies accordingly.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 06:23 PM
3

Huh? Is this sub is against observations of male disposability?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 03:48 PM
6

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 03:47 PM
13

Of course, incels deserve sympathy. It hurts to be rejected, and the world is rejecting a LOT of men. The reason they don't get sympathy is that people don't care about men.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 01:23 PM
7

They minimize false accusations because they do not care about men, and care about women far more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/22 01:17 PM
3

Absolutely.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 02:12 PM
8

Your wife views you as a guest in "her" home. I'm guessing that she's the one that pretty much makes decisions about how the house is arranged, etc. (And probably feel oppressed that you aren't doing things her way for her.)
/r/MensRights30/10/22 10:28 PM
41

And yet supposedly we men do it in a "toxic" way (when we don't actually do it), while women do it in an "empowering" way.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 01:51 PM
24

People do not care about men.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 01:46 PM
4

Shaming is one of the main ways male disposability is enforced.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 01:46 PM
18

The longer people are aware of misandry, and keep experiencing the mainstream indifferent to it, and the shaming/silencing tactics used to keep it out of the conversation, the more they might drift into what you call misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 12:49 PM
5

Yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 05:16 PM
39

They want men to express feeling that they want to hear. Anything they don't want to hear, and those "toxic" men need to shut up.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 12:48 PM
2

I second your endorsement of the Empathy Gap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/22 12:19 PM
5

The true power dynamics in our society.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 01:05 PM
2

You need to get out of there.
/r/MensRights03/10/22 01:04 PM
3

Leftist totalitarianism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 01:02 PM
4

Clown world. (I wish I could give you a serious answer, but sheez).
/r/MensRights01/10/22 01:09 AM
5

Our society doesn't care about men.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 05:01 PM
12

That's the world we live in.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 04:33 PM
0

A shaming catchphrase to shut men up.
/r/MensRights29/09/22 05:18 PM
1

Lawyer up ASAP.
/r/MensRights28/09/22 02:16 PM
7

I really wonder if there will be a bachelor tax in my lifetime.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 08:11 PM
40

Good to hear, but I still believe that, when push comes to shove, his supporters will vanish. Let me know when he gets his job back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/22 04:23 PM
8

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 04:47 PM
37

It is not a joke. They 100% mean it. And the guys who put up with it think, "Yeah, those other men are trash." Lol. Dillusion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 08:32 PM
3

I'm all in favor of more gender-role flexibility. However, when it occurs in context of the current toxic narrative that men owe women (as opposed to being partners with them), it becomes another avenue to accuse men of falling short.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/22 02:30 PM
-3

Good in theory, but not good in the context of a narrative that men owe women big time for thousands of years of oppression.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 03:12 PM
1

Godspeed. Keep calm. Do not take bait.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 03:05 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:21 PM
2

Here is a pretty recent interview with Farrell that can help get you up to speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og68K4mJ7Z8 If you want to understand the men's movement, this history is essential. The current "angry" state of the movement is the result of decades of being silenced/demonized. (I would say more, but the rules of this sub prevent me from explaining why I think this happened, since doing so would require making generalizations.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 05:57 PM
37

People don't care about men.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 02:47 PM
4

That show is pure gold!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 02:46 PM
2

Yep, it is being shaped to support a narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 02:44 PM
7

Warren Farrell is/was a super-sensitive feminist, who is also the father of the modern men's movement, started with his 1993 book "The Myth of Male Power." He approached it in the most caring, kind way you could imagine. The result was that he was ostracized from the feminist circles he was working in. Here is a video of a feminist protest against him in 2012. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRasOrIoYQ Nor was he able to rally a group of men, because his did the gynocentric thing of continuing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 02:41 PM
2

People don't care about men/boys.
/r/MensRights13/09/22 05:02 PM
6

Godspeed.
/r/MensRights13/09/22 04:57 PM
25

Of course, the MRM has room to improve, but the primary fault lies in the fact that people are generally unreceptive/demonizing of men's concerns because people don't care about men. Have feminists ever had a rule against saying anything bad about men? Of course, not. They demonize us all the time. In contrast, our whole society (even this sub) classifies any criticism at all of women as a group as "misogyny." In short, I share your sentiment of often being disappointed and embarrassed by the MR…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 04:50 PM
2

But feminists tell me I should only think about CEOs and presidents, not regular people. /s (Sorry for being salty, but this pisses me off.)
/r/MensRights13/09/22 12:59 PM
5

People don't care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/22 12:44 AM
2

Yes, but I don't expect it to change in any of our lifetimes.
/r/MensRights12/09/22 04:09 PM
1

Thanks. I hadn't realized that from how it had previously been discussed. Here is a summary of how it was changed: According to the real-life authors, “The last two-thirds of this paper is based upon a rewriting of roughly 3,600 words of Chapter 12 of Volume 1 of ‘Mein Kampf,’ by Adolf Hitler, though it diverges significantly from the original. This chapter is the one in which Hitler lays out in a multi-point plan which we partially reproduced why the Nazi party is needed and what it requires of…
/r/MensRights12/09/22 01:44 PM
6

Sadly, this is pretty standard. Remember that feminist journal that was tricked into publishing a chapter from Hitler's Mein Kamph (sp?) that just replaced jews with men.
/r/MensRights11/09/22 04:29 PM
43

Of course, but the point is that the media loves to trumpet the hardships of women/girls, without acknowledging the same among men/boys--who, according to the narrative don't have any problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 05:27 PM
70

The media headline: 31.4% of girls fear being physically hurt!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 04:39 PM
2

That was the result of democratic elections.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 07:45 PM
4

Bollocks. You may say they "need to be addressed." But we need to live with the fact that they will not be addressed because we live in a culture of gynocentrism . . . but gynocentrism seems to be something you would prefer us not mention. There is no "both sides" to this. Society's receptiveness to men's issues vs women's issues is not remotely on par.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 04:47 PM
2

No more so than the rest of society.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 12:46 PM
5

Funny I didn't see this reported in the media. /s
/r/MensRights05/09/22 01:57 PM
4

Yep, men are really in a bind here. A big part of the MRM is trying to figure out how to react to it.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 02:12 PM
1

If women don't want to be our therapists, then they should be supportive of the online men's movement, where we can talk to other guys and learn from their experiences? But nope, they demonize us and try to silence us. It is not that THEY don't want to be therapists. It is that they don't want US to have feelings--or at least not feelings that don't put women on a pedestal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 04:38 PM
1

They don't want equality. They want only the good things. They want all women to do as well as the top handful of men--ie the only men they are aware of.
/r/MensRights02/09/22 03:10 PM
5

Then "real feminists" must be hanging out with Bigfoot and the Loc Ness Monster.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 07:31 PM
0

Men need to do better. /s
/r/MensRights01/09/22 07:23 PM
23

IMO feminism has a big time envy issue with men The way to understand it is that women ONLY SEE the top handful of men. Average guys don't exist to them. That is why feminists obsessively focus on world leaders and CEOs. Women THINK that men are doing great, because they filter 90%+ of men out of their consciousness. Operating from that point of view, it must feel weird to hear men claim that we have problems.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 05:57 PM
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Just look at how women/feminists react to the men's movement, where men actually express themselves. All they want to do is shut us up.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 04:01 PM
1

40s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 02:52 PM
1

Lol. Good one. Yes, they don't give a shit.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:08 PM
0

A lot of women really enjoy displaying themselves sexually. It isn't just OF. Look at all the women wearing "yoga pants" a/k/a tights, or shorts that show their ass cheeks. They like doing it. (But, of course, feminists find a way to blame men.)
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:06 PM
5

Take it as a lesson. Keep your guard up around women. Protect yourself at all times.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 01:02 PM
1

Lol. Keep learning. You might find that red-pillers are right about more than you've given them credit for. (You sound pretty young, and have a POV that I can relate to from when I was younger. The rabbit hole is deeeeeep.)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 01:00 PM
12

Drives me nuts too, the "We're all about LOVE and acceptance! Ewww, gross, men get out of the way!"
/r/MensRights30/08/22 05:24 PM
63

That is normal in our society.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:29 PM
4

But remember, the male domination only relates to the bad parts of society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/22 01:36 PM
41

In our society, if a woman is upset, then the man did something wrong. Men are disposable.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 04:03 PM
1

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 04:41 PM
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