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discussionhshsgdve/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 06:21 AM
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discussionhshsgdve/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 01:59 AM
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It’s the “I don’t care, I wasn’t even trying” approach to intersexual relationships. This is why a lot of feminists make themselves deliberately unattractive to men. It’s the “see, it’s not that they don’t want me, because I don’t even want them”. “Pick me” = “stop revealing how terrified of rejection I am”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/23 06:33 PM
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Simps. Women starve them for crumbs of romantic affection, so they’ll do literally anything for it, including throwing other men under the bus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 06:03 AM
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✨gaslighting✨
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/23 04:27 AM
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I put them in the same basket as David Duke. They’re bigots, plain and simple.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/23 09:52 AM
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Around 25-30, you start to realise they’re not principled people. They somehow all get engaged to the man that “just happens” to earn three times what they earn, “just happens” to be taller and “just happens” to be a provider, protector and relatively high status. I prefer conservative women, because they tend to have integrity. They say what they want, upfront.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 03:39 AM
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I’m saying this exact opposite. Cigarettes are for sale. It’s on you to not use them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/23 06:13 AM
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Porn isn’t good for you. Stop watching it. Don’t blame others that cigarettes are for sale. It’s on you not to smoke.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/23 03:14 AM
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I don’t know about others, but my childhood conditioning made me actively think that I was in debt to everyone. I hit all the markers of “privileged patriarchy”, so I felt guilty whenever my talents and hard work led to success. Guilt is a hell of a motivator.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 01:37 AM
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Ignore the noise. Lift heavy things. Words walk, muscles talk 💪🏼 But seriously, get ripped. ALL, yes, all women treat you entirely differently. So do the men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 09:54 AM
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“Oh cry me a river. Men get away with killing women every day. The fact that you’re trying to shift the conversation away from that makes it so clear that you’re low key a misogynist”. ^ easy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 08:28 AM
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Anything that specifies women, specifically, in a negative light, is considered misogyny. Truth is irrelevant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 04:49 AM
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Feminist women will start to shift to wanting traditionalism, but never admitting that they’re reneging. It’ll be framed as something that makes them look wholesome. It’s the same way the hardcore environmentalists in college often apply for and accept the oil and gas graduate job. “It’s because I need to pay rent, then I’ll work in environmentalism once I’m established”… which somehow never happens. Boys, you’re never going to get this satisfying admission of wrong that you seem to be wanting f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/23 03:15 AM
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You don’t have to name them, but it just seems like you’re outlining a Fox News caricature of a Republican.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 11:21 PM
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Okay, what conservatives do you actually talk to… in real life?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 02:57 PM
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Do you actually believe this is what conservatives believe? That conservatives fight for slavery to exist? What conservatives are you talking to?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 07:28 AM
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Quick question: how is is possible to be trans MtF, but also non-binary?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/23 06:18 AM
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Meh, tbh it’s not that big a deal. Just part of life. It’s weird to me when people make it their whole “traumatic” identity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/23 04:44 AM
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Yeah women have SAed me a lot in my life. Tbh I’ve just become used to it. Nobody does anything about it, so kicking up a fuss just hinders my life more that it otherwise would be by the act itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 03:41 PM
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Simply put, women compete for social status. Social status keeps them safe from harm. One form of social status is male validation, another is female validation. Male validation gives social status in female circles. The cycle continues. You would be very surprised at the depth of games, manipulation and time that goes into social strategy for MOST women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/23 07:58 AM
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What were the mask off experiences?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 04:47 PM
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Safe, rare and legal. Progressives usually have a problem with the “rare” part of this equation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 05:21 AM
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Yikes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 03:51 AM
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This is very similar to my line of thinking, so I tend to just refer to that as being a conservative who wants positive innovation, rather than change for the sake of change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 03:06 AM
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What if AI deems overpopulation to be the most significant cause of harm for humans? A logical conclusion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 03:04 AM
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I’m a conservative and also believe these things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 03:02 AM
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Socialism requires centralised distributive power. Given psychopaths and sociopaths exist, that dynamic is naturally going to end up with authoritarianism. How can you police for that, unless you go with local, self-determined communities being the distributive body (which is conservatism)?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 02:56 AM
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Positive and toxic masculinity is defined by how comfortable that particular women is when men behave in a particular way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 12:12 AM
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Honestly, most of what I’ve seen Tate say is positive. Yes, I’m sure he’s said and done some wild things, but why wouldn’t men look at him as inspiring? He’s one of the very few people telling men they aren’t toxic in some way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 04:44 PM
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People usually don’t know I’m dating someone until about 10 months to a year in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 10:34 PM
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At this point it’s on those women to actively start making the sacrifice and standing up against what benefits them most. They won’t do this, because they’ve been told they’re oppressed their whole life and have “struggled” against the odds to get it. This is by design.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/23 08:54 AM
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Because it ridiculous and I would have classified as homeless for most of my late teens and early twenties by these definitions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/23 02:36 AM
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Lol if that’s the case, haven’t most of us been homeless at some point?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/23 02:06 PM
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ABS 2021 Census
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/23 11:55 AM
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Do you think the people writing up the statistics are conscious of what they’re doing?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/23 08:23 AM
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An intimate partner got violent with me. She and others shrugged it off and also said that I probably deserved it. It’s straight up sexism. There no other way to slice it. You’ve just gotta accept the fact that people might declare they’re against sexism, while mostly acting very sexist. Remember that when they ask for a favour based on their gender, eg. “Can you carry this suitcase for me?”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/23 01:03 AM
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Stop playing their game and do not allow yourself be guilted or shamed. Just walk alway. Most modern feminist types will use convoluted language to circle back to “because patriarchy” and “women are always the victim of men”. It’s just another version of “because it says so in the bible”. They’re just bible thumpers who’s bible is gender theory articles that they haven’t read.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/23 02:29 AM
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If they admit that misandry exists, they lose their automatic victimhood leverage and they would have to act like a respectful adult. They do not want that responsibility. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of western society has just accepted that women should be permitted to act in much more childish ways than men, while still stating that men and women should be treated equal. No, people who act like adults should be treated like equals and people who act like children should be treated…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/23 01:26 AM
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This is entirely accurate. For most of my life I was pretty fearless. A couple of traumatic things happened and I lost my edge for a while. I expected that women, who’d claimed constantly that men need to open up, would receive my opening up about my fears. They did the exact opposite. Before I could even finish a sentence, almost all seemed almost bored by having to experience a man talking about his momentary slip in mental health. What caused it was almost entirely unforeseen and sudden, but …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/23 10:31 AM
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This one is on social media. I own property and the women I have dated, who sometimes still live with their parents see me owning as a standard. I’ve learnt to just occasionally leave a mortgage bill or property tax document laying around 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 01:53 AM
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You’re displaying exactly why nobody likes progressives and it’s why they lose voters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 03:32 PM
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Got it. Progressives are the goodies and conservatives are the baddies 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 02:17 PM
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Haha this group feels the need specify that they’re left wing male advocates because they appropriately recognise that the current left, as a whole, demonises men. They want to be the positive exception to that rule. Conservatives win votes because they appeal to family orientated values and low taxes. This idea from progressives that the average conservative is one step from the KKK is so childish. The left, which I used to belong to, became weirdly racist and bigoted, which is why I became con…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 12:56 PM
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How American of you to assume that I’m American 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 12:18 PM
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… because I am open to reasonable disagreement and difference.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 09:10 AM
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As a conservative, it’s literally just because the conservative side acknowledges basic realities more often than progressives. They are also open to reasonable disagreement and difference, as long as it doesn’t depend on them doing something to facilitate your difference. Weirdly, conservatives are wayyy more “live and let live” type people. I’ve always followed the side that allows people to live the way they want to live and right now, the right is doing a better job of following that ideal. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 08:49 AM
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If you ignore all the horrible things that happen to men based on their gender, then misandry doesn’t exist ✨✨
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 02:42 PM
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What’s the book?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/23 01:28 AM
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Men are supposed to pretend this isn’t the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/23 08:33 AM
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It’s always been baked into the cake, but this was overlooked because it began as poor ideology achieving positive ends. Once those ends were reached, the poor ideology remained.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/23 10:51 AM
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Bro, don’t even touch it. Even slight, reasonable advocacy for equality for men will be construed as misogyny in such circles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/23 04:10 PM
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I think we need to stop pathologizing male group tendencies. Brawling, roasting and competing is literally how we establish trust, reliability and brotherhood. Healthy male groups know the “line”, but most guys need to be kinda aggressive in order to feel masculine. It’s kinda like the fight club rules: “if he taps out, goes limp, the fight is over”. Personally, nothing is better than getting in the ring with a guy and sparring. The trust developed here is second to none.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/23 04:30 PM
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I don’t have the papers, but was in academia for an extended period of time. The universities simply don’t fund papers that might end in these findings. When it politically incorrect findings accidentally happen, many researchers use data hacking (post hoc data manipulation) to bury it, so the best you’ll get is a wishy washy “we found nothing” kind of paper. If they don’t, the university or funding body will bury it like a bad news article. Science is way more political than you might imagine. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/23 02:00 AM
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He’s good, but not perfect. His first book, while a bit wordy, contains sound advice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/23 11:37 AM
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If they said “parents” once in the whole article, that still counts for them. You’re being gaslit… it’s not supposed to be true, just has to be within the realm of plausibility.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/23 11:16 AM
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“We said parents, that includes men, obviously”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/23 10:24 AM
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Plausible deniability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/23 09:27 AM
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Bro, once you’ve realised all this stuff, dating a feminist is kinda off the table. You’ll try, because you remember the good times, but you’ll find her insufferably pretentious within 3 months. Also, never go back to an ex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/23 12:36 PM
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I can see how this would be confusing to someone on the spectrum, because feminists don’t mean what they say. When they say they want “equality”, what they really mean is “we never want to be disadvantaged”. This doesn’t mean that they don’t want the advantages they have to remain. When women were introduced into male competitiveness in the workplace, even with the red carpet laid out, many of them thought they were being discriminated against. In reality, they weren’t (most of the time), it was…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/23 01:39 AM
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Conscious shit tests?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/23 01:23 AM
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I take it with a grain of salt, but it’s difficult not to see a pattern, because every single man I talk to has such a similar experience. I don’t ask them directly, but I say “can you talk about the people that helped you?”… it’s 95% male names in their stories.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/23 12:50 AM
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… because people support it in theory, but not when it actually happens. “nobody should hit anybody”, until she does and when he defends himself “he should have just walked away”. “The draft should be abolished”, until Ukraine happens. “Men shouldn’t die at work”, until they do and it’s forgotten by the next news cycle. It’s not actual caring. It’s caring in the same way people say “take care”. It’s polite.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 03:58 AM
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Yes, but it’s not usually considered DV until they throw a punch.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/23 12:20 AM
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Not at all. It’s advice on how to deal people who have no interest in good faith engagement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 02:39 PM
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“Positive masculinity” = it benefits the woman in question. This includes supporting her avoidance of accountability in wrongdoing. “Toxic masculinity” = not beneficial to the woman in question. This includes making her feel negative emotions, including fear, guilt, shame, etc. “Incel” = positive masculinity that expects reciprocity. While men should never expect sexual favours in return for assisting women, the term “incel” now extends to the expectation of basic civil reciprocity. The whole co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 11:11 AM
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Feminism is a luxury belief. The moment feminists really NEED men, they abandon their “ideals”. Stop viewing them as legitimate principles, but rather a narcissism expressed as entitlement. Feminists don’t think about women, they think about themselves and how they can personally benefit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/23 04:27 AM
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Modern feminism represses the shadow self because the same as Marxism, it treats humans as blank slates that can be constructed; hence the term “social constructionist”. It’s why we have so many sociopathic or castrated men and less GOOD men. Feminists don’t understand the concept of the masculine being inherently good. Whether they admit it or not, they’re trying to “cure” the masculine with the feminine. From a Jungian perspective, they are the toxic overbearing mother and our society is the o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/23 02:36 AM
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Imagine being a celebrity and feeling comfortable that publicly suggesting a human rights violation won’t get you cancelled… and being right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 07:59 AM
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The same reason people don’t speak out against any fundamentalists. FEAR. They’re willing to take things further than us because they have less meaningful things to lose. A man or woman who needs to provide for their family that they deeply love will fall into line when a blue haired psycho threatens their livelihood. Not for nothing, but as a conservative… we told you this was coming ya dunces 😂 never mind, let’s work together to fix it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/23 07:36 AM
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They want to have the reputation that they care, but they don’t. Be selfish. Let them call you an arsehole. They won’t help when you’re down. Head up Kings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/23 07:00 AM
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I’m relatively conservative, but appreciate this sub because I believe most people here are genuine. Happy to amicably disagree with a genuine person of most political alignments. So, here it is boys: Almost all women are NOT attracted to emotional men. They want a man to “open up” in the context of a relationship so THEY can feel connected. It has nothing to do with the man’s emotional well-being. “Opening up” doesn’t actually mean talking about problems that concern you, it means talking about…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/23 03:12 AM
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Yep, woke people talk about how empathetic they are, but can’t usually fathom that masculinity would feel better to some than being feminine. If they don’t enjoy it PERSONALLY, this it is ruled as “toxic”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 02:13 PM
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It’s setting up rationalisation for the avoidance of accountability when things go wrong. If the relationship disintegrates or something goes wrong, “she was taken advantage of”. It’s also usually envy from older women (30ish) not being chosen over 25 year olds. Pretty much all misandry stems from inconvenient responsibility avoidance and within-group envy. This sounds basic, but actually think about it… it’s accurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 03:55 AM
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The courage to politely say “no” and walk away. This approach terrifies radicals and propagandists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/23 01:58 AM
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I remember a time when I thought claiming men are less polite when literally killing themselves was something I nodded and accepted. Jesus, propaganda works 😅
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/23 01:52 AM
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On aggregates men are more interested in things and women more interested in people. Teaching is a people profession. It’s also low pay, which doesn’t affect women’s dating prospects and status, as it would with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/23 01:17 AM
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Why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/23 04:12 PM
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This might get downvoted to oblivion, but gents, when will you learn that most women are outwardly progressive and internally conservative. They can’t just come out in this cultural climate and tell their feminist friends that they’re conservative 😂 they’d be entirely excluded.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/23 04:18 AM
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Here’s your truth. Most young are attracted to arsehole behaviours in men (high status) while also needing to maintain their public reputation. I was a fuckboi and trust me when I say, that it was the feminist types DMing me the most. Behind closed doors, they talk about the “non-problematic” men as if they’re taking about their little cousin. They see them as useful idiots. It’s a sad (and kinda red pill) lesson to learn that women are almost always repulsed by the men they claim to want. The r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/23 06:06 AM
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The Power of One.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/23 07:51 AM
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Guys, here’s the deal. Women have been heavily propagandised to expect the instagram life, but have also been told that they should be equal. The instagram life is never hard, but being equal is sometimes…. So, in reality, they’ve been told that things should just go well. The solution: be rich af. Work 30 hours a week so you’re “a working man”, pay a maid and a cook, and admire how much work she did with dinner (the cleaner or you should clean up the dishes because she made dinner). It’s litera…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 08:20 AM
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Biology is sexist. This is why feminists complaints will never end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 07:47 AM
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This group is basically just realising and identifying how some people (some women*) maintain victim status in order to garner sympathy, so that they are given influence, resources and status.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/23 07:45 AM
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I was a staunch advocate of feminism and feminists are the sole reason I went down the red pill pipeline. Both are low resolution ideologies (cults) but at least one’s members don’t scream at you for disagreeing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/23 04:30 AM
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Reading the Empathy Gap is a good way to learn, but a better way to learn, is to ask the men around you, indirectly. Don’t ask “have you ever experienced DV?”, but instead ask “has a woman ever slapped you?”. You’d be surprised at how high the threshold is for a man to consider it “abuse”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/23 04:17 AM
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Most research indicates that women are more violent, but that the impact of their violence is on average, less. Men are on average, simply just more capable of violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/23 04:06 AM
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I’ve always wondered what it would be like if women stopped seeing articles, reading news and hearing the generally public framing things to suit the “women are victims” narrative. In casual conversation, I find many women to not even expect to have facts brought before them. Especially when they’ve done something bad, A LOT seem to have the feeling of “how dare you bring that up, now I feel bad, I shouldn’t have to feel bad, you’re bad for making me feel bad”. A woman I knew, who got divorced, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/23 01:52 AM
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What leads you to believe it’s predominantly female feminists?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/23 04:26 AM
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Do you think it’s run by male or female feminists?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/23 04:24 AM
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Each to their own. My personal opinion on r/MensLib is that they fear upsetting women and so they don’t allow themselves to even explore ideas that might be unpalatable to women, just in case they end up believing those ideas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/23 03:58 AM
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The fact that your post got deleted on r/MensLib speaks volumes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/23 03:13 AM
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Not if you show it graphically. We tend to hide the really bad things from people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 11:56 PM
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I think the best way to do this would be quite graphic. Actually show men who have committed suicide, died on the job, etc. OR maybe, because people have empathy for boys, just slowly raise the age of concern.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 09:17 AM
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Preach. Once you realise it’s just narcissism, it makes it easier to digest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 05:11 AM
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A heads up: this is just the first step. Most liberal people, of which I used to be, end up saying something very reasonable to the dogma and they get cannibalised just like you did… Just so it doesn’t take you by surprise, over the next year or so, you’re going to lose some friends. It’ll suck at the time, but you’ll end up looking at those “friends” and realise that they weren’t really friends, but political allies. The really cool thing that does happen, is that you’ll start to see reasonable…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 04:48 AM
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Bottom line, they don’t care. You’re trying to sell bibles to a prostitute. Move on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/23 01:44 AM
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Don’t engage in their discourse. The best option, is to make a lot of money and withdraw your donations from that institution is they are misandrist. Money talks. Look at how many Universities are “Green” but take money from Oil and Gas. You best believe it the oil and gas companies didn’t like something, they would threaten to pull their donation and the university would scrap the “moral” issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/23 05:30 AM
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Tbh I deliberately downplay how much I get laid most of the time. It’s just as annoying being viewed as a player, especially around women you don’t find attractive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/23 04:06 AM
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I spent a lot of time in academia. I studied a field where part of it was hard science and sometimes soft science. Your question plagued me for years, and I spend a lot of time trying to figure it out. Here’s my analysis. Feminism in academia pursues power because its propagators feel powerless in the world outside of Universities. So, who are these people and why do they want power? Get ready because this is controversial. Women who don’t want or never achieved a happy heterosexual relationship…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 01:58 PM
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Most people never actually investigate things they’re repeatedly told.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 09:16 AM
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This is just more of “here’s how when women behave poorly it’s actually men’s fault”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 08:54 AM
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Unfortunately a lot of therapists are like this now. “Woke” anti-male attitudes have been built into a lot of APA curriculums. Vote with your money, by not seeing her. Make it clear “I’m stopping our sessions because I find you incredibly sexist towards men”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/23 06:16 AM
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It really depends on the woman in question. Look at her dating history. That will give you a decent indication of what she’s after in life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/23 12:33 AM
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In short, CBT is reappraisal of thoughts. It can be delivered with or without exposure therapy, and the APA has made it quite clear that they believe the ideals of traditional masculinity is something to be reappraised.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/23 02:17 AM
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Yes. Person in an adjacent field of work. The answer to this is plainly, yes. Masculinity is inherently uncomfortable, risk taking and courageous. When modern psychology took a turn from “we are going voluntarily to confront what you fear” to “we are going to make you feel like everything is okay”, masculinity became the enemy by default.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 11:57 AM
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Nope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/23 05:21 AM
2

Hot tip: it usually doesn’t work well. There are reasons why most cultures have upheld monogamy as the gold standard for thousands of years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/23 03:56 AM
2

Most people who successfully live that lifestyle don’t talk about it with others. The college campus “polygamy” is just cheating while trying to make it sound cultured.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/23 03:24 AM
2

Not at colleges. That’s like trying to read the Bible to Satan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 02:28 AM
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They will not care. It’s not about facts. It’s not about statistics. It’s about FEELING aggrieved. You’re robbing them of their victim complex and they will protect that even if it means destroying him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 02:22 AM
2

Your grade will suffer if you write your conscience. My advice… write “if we take a feminist perspective, then…” and write what she wants to hear. At least then you’re not saying it’s what you personally believe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/23 02:17 AM
54

Short answer: acknowledging that you have soft power immediately lessens your soft power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/22 02:19 PM
7

I’m relatively conservative, but this group makes a good faith effort. My only critique is the victim mentality that sometimes creeps up. Even if you’re a victim, the worst thing you can do is believe you are one. Generally speaking, keep it up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/22 05:54 AM
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Yes, the people in the “Woke” communities (including within LGBT communities) are directly responsible for many male suicides. Maybe people should a picture of a young man post suicide to every person who says something like “kill all men”. I think people who say hatefully misandrist things, never actually make the connection that there is a human on the receiving end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/22 02:29 AM
6

He gives good practical advice to help them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/22 12:45 AM
-7

Jordan Peterson. That man is the embodiment of the for incels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 03:06 PM
1

Reduces cortisol. Socially, if very limited (maybe once a year), makes him appear to have a soft side. Anything more than once every few months will make him appear weak and he will be outcast on instinct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 05:15 AM
7

This is going to seem dark, but if nobody cares, maybe men should try to stop caring. A power game is being played and maybe men need to exit the game. This isn’t advocating for MGTOW or anything like that, but maybe just more of a “not my problem” attitude to people not in their immediate circle. Maybe then, finally, make effort will be appreciated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/22 03:32 PM
11

Notice the title does not match the nul hypothesis found in the study, and the “researcher” still concludes that they’re probably correct (without supportive evidence), just need to find a better way to study it? This is anti-science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/22 08:26 AM
8

In my experience, most women are much more affected by social expectations than most men. So, when something is “good” morally, most will want to think of themselves as falling into that “good” category. Here are some examples: wanting a kind man over an attractive one having progressive values not being sexually competitive with other women However, biology and fear usually wins out when it comes to actual choices. Here is some biology: women are typically much more vulnerable than men, especia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/22 02:51 AM
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It’s projection. Make men feel like self defined self-worth is narcissism and they’ll continue to define their self worth by what women & media say it is. Ever notice how often women’s ex’s are “narcissists”? 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/22 01:07 AM
7

No inherent issue, but they’re being strategic. They are probably much more in favour of mens advocacy than you might think. The second advertisement allows people to digest the first.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/22 02:35 PM
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The men I feel REALLY sorry for are some of the men currently 25 - 35. Many received an absolute onslaught of hostile, unchallenged forth wave feminism throughout youth and consequently many of their lives have been basically ruined, but they’re not young enough that anyone really cares about their complaints and nobody feels the need to help them fix their lives. I see so many who are just destroyed and without hope and people scoff at them like “bro, your an adult, get it together”. OR you hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/22 07:05 AM
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I mentioned this elsewhere, but I really think most of the conversation is guilt appeasement. Enough sons have fallen into serious depression and nihilism, that women reached a bit of a tipping point where their conscience can’t avoid addressing it. For example, if you watch a school cohort of boys all be forced to stand up and apologise for the behaviour of men they never knew, and you’re a mother of one of those boys, I think the whole “girls are oppressed” narrative is pretty difficult to mai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/22 01:31 PM
1

I’m right-leaning, but here because I think dudes here have a more appropriate attitude. I see left and right as natural balancers of each other. What I think what left-wing men really fail to understand, because they’ve been told it’s misogynistic to say it, but here is the truth: Women want men to say they are left-wing, but act right-wing. Sorry dudes, I know this seems confronting, but if you don’t believe me, start acting a little (not ridiculously, just a little) more right wing around you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/22 11:16 AM
12

The most useful takeaway from this for me is that misogyny is now just anything those women do not like. You actually have to start treating it as being the baseline assumption. Then after that, ask them what they mean. If they say something that equates to misogyny then they can be taken seriously. If they don’t say anything, or give a “it just is” type response, then they’re a power seeker.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/22 12:45 AM
2

Admit what specifically?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 04:58 PM
1

How did your sister respond?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 03:54 PM
1

What happened to you when you did this IRL?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 02:29 PM
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People are starting to recognise they took things too far. Most of my female peers begrudgingly acknowledge that women have been favoured because of the history. So, it’s something.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 02:48 AM
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Historical reason: If women allowed men to see themselves as having inherent value, they wouldn’t be safe. As men depended on the physical prowess, women depended on desirability and psychological control of men to be in service of their safety. This is why being sexually rejected by a man, even one she doesn’t really want, is terrifying for young women. It represents that she is vulnerable, but not perfectly protected. Understandably terrifying. Modern heightening of this: Feminism has coached …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 01:48 AM
1

It’s not really a complex procedure. A resurfacing and knee replacement requires more skill.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 04:34 PM
2

Nah, sorry, I’m not speaking out of turn. This is my field of work. Medical procedures are basically free where I live. They are not wanting them. Honestly, I’m absolutely on board with the fact that men are (edited) dissed for being short, and the pressures of male performance. I’d come with you on this one, but it’s just not accurate (yet).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 04:08 PM
26

A strict Chinese parent has lower standards for their only son than this poem 😅
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 01:26 PM
9

The men at the top don’t find kindness my dude haha we find niceness. BIG difference. We know the moment we fall we are fucked. That being said, Happy IMD :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 08:32 AM
3

Growing one as we speak fellas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 08:30 AM
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It’s not that common. Actually, VERY rare. (I work in healthcare where I see these). I’m fully in the male advocacy seat, but I also value truth. This is really really rare.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 02:46 AM
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The moment “believe all women” was uttered without immediate protest from other women, I realised that our current social structures rely on women being excused of accountability. If a woman ever does a man wrong, people think it wrong for a the man to insist that she acknowledge this wrong. You wouldn’t want to make her feel bad for doing a bad thing, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 04:44 AM
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I think this is baked into the culture. The default setting is that men are guilty and women are victims. If a person actually thinks about it, Amber is clearly guilty, but thought requires effort. Misandry is the default setting for most now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 12:12 AM
1

They can, but this isn’t a perfect tool to convince them all. It’s designed as a first glitch in their matrix of ideas. That’s how you help people bring themselves out of the cult a year later.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/22 06:22 PM
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Men are men. Period. Most men follow typically masculine traits. Doesn’t mean you have to follow those traits in order to be a man. It’s just that 90% of men are most fulfilled being this way. But 90% of men like pussy. Doesn’t mean the 10% who like dick aren’t men. Gay men just divert from the most common / norm of men on that particular trend point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/22 04:57 PM
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Personal opinion, but the best thing you can do is to ask people to connect the vague misandrist theories they propagate to their real life experience or to expand on the throw away abusive comments and actions. Ask them to actually tell you the thought process. To give you some touch points… They might say: “marriage is an institution to control and abuse women”. You might say: “did your father use marriage to control and abuse your mother?” They might say: “that guy was so creepy!” You might s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/22 11:00 AM
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It’s because “ally” has been used as a word to say “you are to help my cause but you will never be part of the in-group. This is not a mutually beneficial relationship and I will ALWAYS have moral authority over you. If you support everything I do, I will give you permission to eat at my table. If you question me, at any point, I will not only discard you, but I will also publicly humiliate you”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/22 07:56 AM
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They truely believe the deck is stacked entirely in favour of men. If you talk to a feminist, if their male partner of family member is suffering, they will usually be considered an exception to the general law of male privilege. They never extend this concept past their own family or partner, because they are narcissistic; they don’t conceptualise that the world is full of other people’s brothers, fathers and boyfriends, who might also be suffering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/22 03:31 PM
2

Nah, don’t have that attitude my dude. I was just on a bad place when I got together with this woman and predators capitalise on people when they are weak. You can usually avoid dating sociopaths by being on a good place yourself. Birds of a feather :) Women, when in tune with their femininity can be an amazing thing in a man’s life. Literally inspiring.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/22 12:20 PM
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There a dangerous and bad men out there. But here’s the thing, I have personally experience several women using “he’s dangerous” to their advantage. A girl I dated cheated, lied and abused me. She even stole money from me. Post break up, she then told everyone straight up lies about me, and not a single person aside from my direct family even entertained the idea that she might be lying. She would lead me on, I would show up to see her and she told people I was stalking her. Literally, she asked…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/22 05:55 AM
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Dude, the know this… they just can’t say it because it doesn’t put them in a position of moral authority. It’s about gaining power in every situation. Most “situations” include men (ie normal society), so the default prop to gain moral authority is unattractive men. As an attractive man, watching what happens when “regular” men aren’t aren’t around them is hilarious. The mask comes off and they eat each other alive, in the the most typically feminine displays of aggression. They almost immediate…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 12:09 PM
10

Thank you for the offer, but I have more than digested it. Modern feminism is a pathology in my opinion. It literally destroys families.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/22 03:17 AM
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Does being raised in a household where basic human needs for the boy were shut down under the guise of feminism, count?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/22 01:26 AM
1

Give “long term degenerative effects of testosterone”. As for the monks and nuns, this would likely be explained by varying prolonged cortisol levels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/22 12:02 AM
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While there are social and cultural contributing factors to men’s earlier death rates, a huge amount of it has to do with significantly higher levels of testosterone. Great in the short term, but degenerative in the long term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/22 03:43 PM
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The male gaze is a filtering system. If you’re attractive, it’s good, if not, it’s not. I was fitness and fashion model (print) in my early twenties (on the side of college). The “rules” did not apply to me then. They do a little more now that I’m older, but only to younger VERY attractive women. I feel like the reverse story of “I was fat and now I’m skinny and people treat me better”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/22 04:04 PM
8

In every sentence like this, ask the speaker to insert “black” before “men”. Ask them if it feels good. Maybe they could try “Jew” instead of “men”. If they refuse, just be silent. They will rant about how “that’s different” or “it’s not the same” or “that’s offensive”, but deep down, this rant is because their conscience knows.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/22 04:48 AM
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Bro, a good chunk of women like controlled male violence (as long as their side wins), they just won’t admit it because it’s not civilised to enjoy it.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 08:15 AM
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“I have no other choice” here actually means “making the other choice will make me look bad and that’s not acceptable”.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 04:16 AM
2

“Women are scared to walk and night and this needs to change”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 09:02 AM
1

Safe RELATIVE to the time period.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 08:07 AM
0

People voluntarily enter bunkers when bombs are dropped. Why do you think they do this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 08:06 AM
2

From this link: “Certain aspects of coverture (mainly concerned with preventing a wife from unilaterally incurring major financial obligations for which her husband would be liable) survived as late as the 1960s in some states of the United States.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 08:04 AM
0

I say we let them be strong independent women for a little longer.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 07:47 AM
2

Boring, but overall, comparatively more safe. Agreed?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 03:05 AM
12

They had the right to own property, but because they were not held liable for their debts, their husbands were, banks typically wanted a higher level of assurance on the repayment of the loan. This is why their husband, who was held to legal account, was typically required to co-sign. This was the bank’s requirement, not the State’s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/22 12:03 AM
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Pretty much. But feminists often also want to FEEL like they’re adopting responsibilities without actually having them, so men around them also have to play pretend with them. They are the female equivalent of Peter Pan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/22 03:06 PM
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Yes, but this is natural biology that the other gender cannot experience. It’s like saying “yes, but men died from testicular cancer more often”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/22 10:05 AM
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Oppression throughout history has had multiple intersecting variables: class, gender, race, etc. So, if we want to look at the oppression of a gender, we have to control for the other arenas of oppression. This second part, the quasi-scientific method of analysis seems to entirely allude feminist “theory”. Okay, so if we eliminate for class and ethnicity, we can then assess how men and women are treated at varying like-for-like points on a cultural hierarchy. Only THEN can we assess at why they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/22 05:48 AM
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It’s a psychological need.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/22 06:32 AM
0

Correlation does not equal causation. Have you considered the numerous extraneous variables? Poverty alleviation being the most glaringly obvious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 03:29 PM
1

I make a distinction for the severity of violence. Death is very different to a black eye.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 07:08 AM
1

Yes, most research indicates that men a overall less likely to engage in domestic violence. What’s you’re point here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 06:50 AM
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It shouldn’t. Men and women just have different inclinations and therefore different traits to mitigate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 01:04 AM
1

Bro, I hope I’m misinterpreting, but are you implying that the homicide of women by men is caused by men not having shelters?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 03:27 PM
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It’s not anger management, it’s emotional integration.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 12:24 PM
2

To be honest, it was the apology the next day that turned my mind. She wasn’t trying to harm, which means a world of difference to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 12:09 PM
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I mean yeah, yours is obviously abusive. One of the people in my circumstance actually said “if you don’t get back together with my I will likely commit suicide”, but then called the next day to apologise profusely. I was distraught, but I still wouldn’t call it abuse. They were just really struggling, and a good person at heart who was losing themselves. I think we have quite different experiential yard sticks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 10:57 AM
1

True. I’d even take that a step further and say that capacity for violence and actualised violence form a bell curve as correlated variables an XY axis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 10:03 AM
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In my experience, I’ve had a couple of people “threaten” suicide and they made sure to say that it wasn’t my fault, and that it was just that I was the only person they could reach out to. I didn’t think it was abusive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 09:55 AM
1

The difference is exaggerated in the case of non-lethal outcomes, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 09:47 AM
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Sometimes, like in your case, they’re legitimate threats where they have no intention in acting on it. Sometimes suicidal people are making desperate last chance pleas. The former is manipulative, the latter is desperation. What makes the former so egregious, is that it delegitimises the legitimately desperate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 09:07 AM
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Okay, think of it this way. Male negative emotion tends to be skewed towards displays of overt aggression, women’s tends to be covert. I feel comfortable enough stating this without needing resources, as I think we all would agree this is generally speaking, the trend. So, how do we deal with this? Well, for men, the most appropriate resource would be perhaps coaching them to deal with anger. Women too, but men are more in need of it. For women, there might be a heavier forces on dealing with tr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 09:04 AM
1

Women die from DV quantitatively more than men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 07:56 AM
1

For issues that are gendered, I treat them as gendered. Eg. On average, men commit suicide at a much higher rate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 07:20 AM
1

Yes, that’s nearly twice as often. It’s significant. As for the individual, of course statistics aren’t important. The same way that noting the gender based difference in suicide rates doesn’t help a suicidal woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 06:59 AM
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Yes, but at each level, on average, a man is better physically. Faster reaction times, stronger, longer reach, taller, higher bone density, bigger hands and fists. ie, a women requires a weapon and/or training in order to be at the same level. If you don’t agree with this, how do you explain the significantly higher fatality rate of women in DV?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 06:39 AM
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Fair enough, but I think it’s also good to acknowledge that men end up killing women at a much higher rate. That doesn’t dismiss women driving men to suicide. It’s just acknowledging the differing ways it happens. Lastly, I’d remove the suicide threats from that list. I genuinely think suicide threats are usually acts of desperation to keep the person around. Not good, obviously, but not quite the same as attacking a person.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 06:26 AM
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Women are on average, are less capable of physical violence than men. Sure, if said woman grabs a weapon or object to use as a weapon, this might even the score, but there is a significant discrepancy in the average capacity for violence between the genders. This is not a controversial statement, nor is it minimising the physical abuse of men. Besides, abusers tend to favour playing on a field where they have a dominant advantage. This is why female displays of aggression trend more towards repu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 06:08 AM
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Yes, the severity of outcomes is much more severe for women. This is primarily due to men’s higher capacity for violence. Bottom line, more women end up dead as a result of DV. As a man who was in a non-reciprocal DV relationship, I have no idea why this is being downvoted. It’s a fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 02:29 AM
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Severity of physical violent outcomes in domestic situations is on average more severe for women than men. That should definitely be acknowledged and dealt with appropriately. Men need to really be aware of their capacity to do harm and learn to be more in control of themselves because of this risk, especially physically. What I found amazing, well, I think “felt absolute despair” is a better description, is when I was in a non-reciprocally violent relationship, and I tried find help, the messag…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 01:30 AM
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Bro, get yourself sorted before you try to help others. If you’re not there yet, you’re more likely to make a mess of it. Not making a mockery of you, it’s just that you’ll want to turn yourself into a well sharpened tool, so that when you do help, it’s beneficial. Think of it like a blunt vs. sharp knife chopping a soft tomato. There’s nothing wrong with taking your time and helping at 40 :) Also, 30 is not even close to old. You’re literally JUST at the age where you’re not a “baby” anymore!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/22 01:57 AM
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They were excluded from male specific education, just as men were excluded from female specific education. The “education” was relevant to what was expected of each gender. This even includes physical fitness training for men, specifically for the purpose that they would be expected to fight in war, should the time come. Feminists only deem male education as legitimate because it was more institutionalised. Also, the “education” feminists refer to, seem to be that if elite male only preparatory …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/22 02:57 AM
2

The equity BS rarely makes it to the level of CEO, because the board presumably recognised that doing this with CEO, is enough to collapse a company. They will do the “acting CEO” stints with semi-competent equity hires, because that’s great PR, but it’s never permanent. So if a woman is permanent CEO, then it’s a pretty safe bet that she’s at least up there with the best choices for the role.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/22 11:12 AM
0

Most people do. The abusive patriarchal man as CEO is a trope. Most CEOs I know are usually a little ruthless (they have to be), but generally speaking, good people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/22 10:37 AM
6

You’re confusing the aim of modern measurements of gender equality. The aim is not accurate science, it’s public relations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/22 02:47 PM
1

How can you be financially, emotionally and physically responsible for someone’s safety and security, without having some level of authority over that person?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 12:46 PM
2

This level of nuance is incredible. I’m admittedly envious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 11:21 AM
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The following is speculation based on observation, but I suspect “what is the fair and moral thing to do?” isn’t a factor women who cheated, lied and duped the guy into raising another man’s child. Woman have all sorts of individual pressures, e.g. be attractive, passive, politeness, be soft spoken, etc. but outside of religious institutions, they don’t seem to have any significant pressure to act in a moral fashion (or at least the bar is a lot lower). So when you ask such fraudulent women if i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 06:27 AM
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The difference here is that in the “baby switched in the hospital” event, it is an accident, as opposed to lying every single day to the person who share a bed with you. The betrayal should be the focus here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/22 06:21 AM
1

All good?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/22 11:25 AM
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Nope, this isn’t rape. Dishonesty? Yes. Manipulation? Maybe. Rape? No. I don’t like the modern trend of widening severe terms like rape, racism, bigotry and misogyny, so much that we can no longer have terms to distinguish severity and triage the resources with give to each level of severity. If we constantly soften the terms, this will have a very negative effect on our psychology in responding to emergencies. So no, defiantly not rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 05:10 PM
1

Women were allowed to own property. Can you please source this notion that they weren’t?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 01:33 PM
1

Can you elaborate on the “usually by their mother” part? I don’t quite understand the inference here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 03:52 AM
1

In what ways?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 12:42 PM
1

See that I don’t mind. I’m don’t discount the value of a conservative stance. Individualism, preservation of tradition and financial restraint, are all good things, when balanced against the left side. It’s the advocating one thing publicly and doing the opposite privately, that bothers me. When I later found out that almost every college feminist I knew was being bankrolled by their fathers while screaming “dismantle the patriarchy”, it made me lose all respect for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 10:59 AM
1

Well yeah, I’ve since spoken to some women who were vehemently left during college and still remain somewhat left on the surface. Many of them voted conservative at the time because their dad (their bank) told them to do so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 10:34 AM
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My sense is that a lot of “progressive” white women aren’t actually progressive, but rather just pro-themselves, and the progressive narrative treats them as the oppressed and therefore worthy of things they want by default. If conservatives offered many of these women a better deal, without social consequence to themselves, I sense they’d take it. I think this is why so many feminists look at men asking for their help, and think, “why would I do that? It’s not in my interest to help you”, and d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 08:51 AM
13

These male professors were even worse in my opinion. They sacrifice young men’s well-being for a crumb of approval from the feminist “academics” and female students. On that note, something that’s not really talked about is how much the weak male professors do to gain the approval of their pretty female students. I have actually spoken with some of those women a few years down the line. Turns out several of them were sleeping with their professor with an unsaid understanding that they’d give the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 07:32 AM
1

I had no problems getting into parties and dating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 01:45 AM
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No, most “feminists” will suddenly get really quiet and absent from their feminist cause until a less inconvenient issue makes headlines. If you observe closely, they do the same thing leading up to their Birthday, Christmas and Valentine’s Day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 04:41 PM
1

You’re not a feminist, my dude. We all believe women should have rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 07:02 PM
7

They then end up ruthlessly bullying weaker men, which are usually weaker because they’re younger. Have a look at how modern feminists describe their brothers. They see them as good little boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 03:36 PM
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If you need to believe that, I won’t interfere with your process
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 09:56 AM
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They’re good masculine traits. Co-operation is best done via complementation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 09:14 AM
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What is the solution? The understanding that traditional masculinity is good. There are always drawbacks to being stoic, assertive and protective, but if you ask me, if appreciated for it, they positives WAY out way the negatives. Men just want appreciation for the sacrifices they make… that seems like crossing a boundary for a generation of egotists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 07:49 AM
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Any King who must announce he is the King, is no true King… or in this case, Queen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/22 07:26 AM
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I didn’t want to skew their responses to focus on my example, but is this edit good enough?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 06:36 AM
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Sex is just as much a need for many people as emotional intimacy. If you starved me of emotional intimacy, eventually, I would almost certainly become callous and hardened towards those that “rejected” me. Hate is the natural result of prolonged pain. Blaming yourself when you’re in pain adds to that pain. It’s like putting alcohol on a wound. Sure, it’s good for you, but most people can’t being themselves to bear that pain. I have empathy for those in pain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/22 02:33 PM
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There are none. That’s the point. The overwhelming majority just accept the crippling isolation until they eventually unalive themselves. When a society pathologizes traditional masculinity, these “lost boys” have nowhere to go but towards each other. They need empathy and guidance, but people mock them even further into the ditch and criticise anyone who dares to have empathy for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/22 02:28 PM
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“Incels” are the subset of sexless men without immediate hopes of relationships, who become understandably bitter, as opposed to continuing to be good little boys to the women who mistreat them. I’m not an incel by any stretch of the imagination, but if I was that undesirable, and mocked for being so, yeah, I’d probably fall into an incel mentality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/22 02:21 PM
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You’re mistakingly assuming that the woke people actually care about body shaming as a principle. It’s never a principle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/22 10:38 AM
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I got radicalised and this is spot on. I’ve always considered myself too discerning to get caught up in that kind of thinking. EVERYONE is susceptible to it, we just have different amounts of abuse we can tolerate before we succumb to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 04:55 PM
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A trans man. Welcome to the world of being gaslit while being told you’re the gaslighter haha good to have you aboard buddy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 04:18 PM
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The “expectation” you’re talking about here is actually just men mistakingly having the expectation of reciprocity. I have been in positions of very high relative status in my life and when I was there, always gave resources and help generously. The same women that accepted my generosity when they were in need of it, were “busy” the moment I was in need. I’m sorry to say, but in my experience, the men in my life, on average seem to have much more honour than the women, especially when it comes t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 11:06 AM
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Bit of a nightmare personality and very bitter. Compared to your average feminist, a well-balanced human, but he’s definitely not someone I’d look to for guidance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 10:27 AM
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“… but are they really so devastating and destructive to people’s lives, is the suffering they need to be permanently at the centre of the public’s consciousness?” For modern western feminists, mild discomfort is akin to oppression. They’re literally that entitled. Most of them are upper middle class households, and are playing house when it comes to the “fight” against their oppression. They never really handle real issues. Roe vs Wade seems to be the exception to this… You can measure the seve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 10:22 AM
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Regarding that article, given the actual answers, I really think “moral objectives” should be changed to “social comfort”. I don’t think the majority of those that promote DEI have justice in mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 01:23 AM
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He also gives advice that legitimately improves young men’s life. Gym, money, purpose and a devil may care attitude. This also brings young female attention. Why wouldn’t they buy into a guy’s ideas who is actively improving their existence?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 01:42 PM
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Hmm both approaches have their merits. Mine is more the “alright let’s play that game”. You’re playing the intellectual game and they’re playing the social. You have to learn both plays in order for them to not want to bully you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 04:23 PM
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Simple fix to this one. When someone, AKA a feminist, says something like this, your standard response should be: “Aside from brining awareness, how have you helped the situation in Iran? Have you donated money to charity?” What I have discovered about most modern “activists” (feminists in particular) is that they almost NEVER put their money where their mouth is… they’ll carry around $2000 MacBooks, drink $6 lattes, and go to $250 concerts, while they rant and rave about how we need to “bring a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 07:25 AM
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Except that doesn’t fly when a mining company wants a mathematical / engineering answer that will make them money. These university “activists” bail on their ideologies the moment they could make more money displaying rationality. This group needs to learn, that you won’t win them over with “showing” them the truth. They don’t care. Truth and lies are just tools to them. They have no moral grounding. They don’t have tangible skills, so they make up a need for their ramblings. A lot of them start…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 04:13 PM
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Hahaha okay, well now I see why we differ… Fundamental Physics. You’re last in the chopping block, because you actually have to do a lot of work before you’re even let into that club. DEI people hate legitimate work and research, because it’s difficult. One also has to entirely break down the legitimacy of truth before they can assert 2+2=5. I was in psychology and neuroscience. So the soft sciences and practicing medical sciences. They are, especially the former, more susceptible to corruption.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 03:29 PM
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Having been in the academic world, I have to disagree here. The academics who actively promote DEI in universities are careerists. People think most academics are, at their core, interested in the pursuit of truth. This may have been true at one point, but the vast majority of academics in the humanities are careerists, more interested in status, money and power. If they’re in the oppressed category, most will actively support DEI, because it’s a massive card to have in their careerist deck. The…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 02:56 PM
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Commenting twice, because holy shit. Papers like this are such a stain on academia. This shit could be solved by putting these “academics” in one short-course in statistics and methodology. The introduction. My lord. It’s just opinions referencing opinions. “Theories” that are just hypothesises.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 09:07 AM
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Working more than 80 hours a week Compensating for incompetencies of others Receiving undermining comments gracefully Dealing with “boys club” politics; which is actually just high performance corporate politics Not having a healthy work/life balance These are all burdens of leadership.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:50 AM
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Correct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 07:46 AM
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Most, not all, want the autonomy of command, without the accompanying responsibility and accountability. It’s why their complaints about the workforce don’t resonate with most men, because their complaints (aside from sexual harassment) are literally just resentment at NORMAL responsibilities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 03:47 AM
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“Authority” is a strong word. I’d say a more appropriate way to phrase it, is that they resent the responsibility of command.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 02:13 AM
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They’re starting from a genesis of accepting patriarchal theory as unarguable fact. ^ This answers most of your questions. Addition: it’s not science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 01:39 AM
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This take is a bit weak sauce. Most misogyny and misandry, is a response to emotional pain via hate and sometimes tribalism. Displays of aggression towards the out-group perpetuates a group reward… and the cycle continues. I’d say there is a very strong case for their being more “acceptable” misandry present in Western cultures, than there is misogyny. I’d also see a strong case for there being more displays of misogyny from women, than from men (again, in the west). The bottom line, is that you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 01:29 AM
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Most sexual kinks are rooted in what we think about ourselves and the world. Think about how increasingly prevalent the “daddy” kink has become, as patriarchal authority in the West has lessened.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/22 01:11 AM
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It’s because feminists, at a subconscious level, don’t actually want the castrated men they claim they want. When you suppress an urge, it comes back even more hardcore. This is likely why feminists, behind closed doors, enjoy the roughest, most degrading sex, from the most masculine of men. I speak from experience. Feminists are almost always in want OF much more male dominance in the sack.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 02:43 PM
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I favour a Jungian perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 01:01 PM
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Of course it’s a weak one, but it’s proponents do it in the name of pathological compassion for the “marginalised”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 10:12 AM
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The concept of feminine, particularity in its maternal form, is inherently a protective instinct towards infants. An infant’s environment must be extremely protected, limited and safe, so that it might survive. Apply this to adults and you have totalitarianism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 10:11 AM
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I thought this was common knowledge. The point I made was a collective concept. What specific point would you like literature on?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 10:10 AM
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Censorship is the feminine path to totalitarianism (Soviets). Extreme hierarchy is the masculine path to totalitarianism (Nazis). Left is the embodiment of the feminine, right the masculine. This is not to say “female” or “male”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 09:38 AM
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It’s presented as a equalising / including measure. It’s the same as “sharing is caring” and “everyone gets a turn and sticker m” no matter their talent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 09:36 AM
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I respectfully disagree. Controlling the environment in the name of safety is a maternal instinct. There’s nothing wrong with this, as long as it’s balanced with the masculine drive to pursue calculated risk. This isn’t female and male. It’s feminine and masculine. There is a reason why men tend to vote right wing and women left wing; the want for freedom vs. the want for safety. Our current safe-space all inclusive culture is basically an attempt to create a play pen for adults. It’s not a coin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 07:39 AM
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My opinion… This is what happens when you remove the masculine element from a society (in this case, university): extreme infantilisation. “Everyone must think the same, so we can all get along and no conflict happens”. Doing that to a four year old is difficult, but doing it to adults, requires tyrannical levels of control. Anyone who’s been on a university campus lately will realised how absolutely awful most have become. The doublespeak is insane and many are taking intelligent students and m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 01:28 AM
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This is a feature, not a bug.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/22 12:42 PM
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Social isolation, caused by the demonisation of all-male groups, rituals and masculinity.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 08:02 PM
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I understand why you’re angry, but don’t do even think about doing that. You’re using hateful language to describe really hateful intent. Just walk away. If you need to vent some anger, try doing it in a constructive manner. Journal, gym, boxing, competitive sports. Whatever suits you best. Don’t fight hate with hate. Instead, work on making yourself a better person, who helps those in need. Who knows, maybe there is another person that needs your help. If you’re too busy going after this person…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 07:39 PM
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Haha yeah, any reasonable views about men deserving basic human decency is considered “incel” talk to them. As for women not being vocal, I think women are on average, a bit more socially aware than men (maybe nature, but probably more nurture). They see the game feminists are playing and know it’s smartest to avoid them. They assume men would be smart enough to do the same. A lot of men like yourself, go in thinking they’re acting in good faith and get frustrated that someone could engage such …
/r/MensRights01/10/22 03:43 PM
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This is spot on. As soon as you need their help, after years of never asking for anything, they’re “busy”. Not friends.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 03:11 PM
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Here’s something that’s going to blow your mind when you discover it: Your “friends” respect you LESS as a person, than the men they are talking about when they say “men are trash”. They will use you for your empathy and discard you the moment it’s no longer useful to display the “beliefs” they claim to hold. My advice is go and talk to some good masculine men. I’d give the same advice to a young man caught amongst neo-nazi rhetoric, i.e. “go and talk to some good black men”. All the hateful rhe…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 03:06 PM
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No, and most women agree with you. However, most women are scared of feminists. Feminists are what white supremacists are to regular white people. Normal white people steer clear because they want nothing to do with them, because their views and lifestyles are absolutely loathsome. “Feminist” is just rebranding of “sexist”, like “nationalist” is usually code for “neo-nazi”. Most people believe in gender equality just like most people believe in general national pride. Groups like this hijack the…
/r/MensRights01/10/22 02:54 PM
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As a tall, very attractive man, I can confirm that this is mostly true. I’ll literally point out my flaws, and they’ll say “yeah, but…” They make excuses for it.
/r/MensRights01/10/22 08:27 AM
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Not being controllable.
/r/MensRights30/09/22 09:59 AM
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The real issue here is that both men and women will end up suffering. When you have a society that is callous to men, they go one of three ways: Give up. Then you get incels, basement dwellers… your stock standard failure to launch. Hyper successful, honed and a tad psychopathic. Tried by failed. This is where 90% of men end up. They took the shot, but with a narrowing extreme expectation, they fell short. Even the most handsome, tall, intelligent man can end up here by making one or two big mis…
/r/EverydayMisandry30/09/22 05:51 AM
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People think this shit is funny. Occasionally, sure. It’s the same as a “women in the kitchen” joke. … but when it’s constantly repeated, boys literally receive the message that they’re bad. The joke becomes less “haha” and more “oh, they’re being serious, I actually don’t deserve rights”. If a guy was to say the occasional racists jokes about all races, including his own, he’s unlikely a racist. If that same guy said racist jokes all the time, about the same race, while lashing out if you said …
/r/MensRights29/09/22 04:46 AM
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This started off as an okay take and then took a massive plunge. Don’t be quasi-abusive and emotionally unavailable, just have a backbone. As for the shame side of things, they figured out early that there are two responses to shame. Defensive: change the behaviour being shamed, as the shame is deserved for a poor behaviour. Offensive: push back against things being shamed, because shame is not appropriate. A healthy human has a measure of both approaches, because sometimes shaming is warranted …
/r/AntiFeminists29/09/22 04:18 AM
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Stop, you’re not supposed to frame it like this… women fight for women’s rights and men try to stop them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/22 11:01 AM
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You forgot the ending: Feminists will then complain that the watch is now even more broken, demanding we use a bigger hammer. All this, while getting their own watch fixed by a professional watch maker. (Yes, I distorted the analogy)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 08:02 PM
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Bruh… we’re here. People don’t really care. You’ve gotta make sure you’re actively connected to your immediate social circle.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 10:34 AM
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Do you think they were doing this knowingly? … and, did you ever call out that they weren’t sincere? P.S. in hindsight, I recall so many woke / feminist women in the humanities strategically seeking to date exclusively men in high-earning majors (finance, law, medicine). What really gets me, is how someone can actively protest against what they’re strategically doing privately. I have no problem with capitalists, as long as they’re just upfront about it. It’s the lack of integrity that gets me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 07:06 AM
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Emotion labour = empathy. Saying you don’t want to “perform emotional labour” is the PR version of “I don’t want to listen to you or show you empathy”.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 04:58 AM
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Become a very successful man and then go through a bout of depression. Watch who helps you. This was me. My anecdotal experience: Not ONE woman helped. Every “feminist” (I had a lot of feminist-type friends) who previously said they would “help men if they were in the same situation” were suddenly “busy” or gave the “you should get therapy” when I asked for tangible things, e.g. a hand packing up furniture. All my conservative associations (almost all men), who previously seemed less vocally emp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 04:39 AM
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Done :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 03:02 AM
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Their views become a lot quieter when things are actually at stake for them, e.g. when they’re asking for money from their father, when they want their boyfriend to propose, when they need a man that can afford the house they want… I’ve never met someone quieten their views faster than a feminist anti-capitalist who starts dating a rich man. It’s all performance.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 01:49 AM
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Just look at it in the same way you look at a major corporate company that pats itself on the back for valuing the wellbeing of its employees, because they offer yoga on Monday mornings at 6am… … while underpaying and overworking it’s staff, offering very little leave and firing them if they don’t perform. “We’re a family here at X Inc”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 01:20 AM
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They want the guy with the traumatic past that expresses his trauma in a way that serves them. They want Christian Grey. They want to do very little, while FEELING like they’ve done a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/22 01:07 AM
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It’s about control. Feminists want a conversation about male issues to be had, so that they can say it is being had. However, they want to be able to fully control its direction, so that not much happens, while everyone thinks a lot of happening. They want a UN conference. Their measure to make sure no real advocacy happens for men, unless it benefits women, is to label any unsanctioned conversation as rhetoric of the “bad guys”. Saying “incel” is like kicking a country out of the UN conference …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 12:10 PM
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Sought in private, admonished in public.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/22 09:45 AM
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I’m entirely in favour of women being afforded the same rights, opportunities, freedoms and responsibilities that men are afforded. As people are catching on, this is not what feminism is about. The advocation for men is two parts: defence and offence. We are still very much in the defence side of things. In order for men to advocate for themselves, we first need to show men that they deserve being treated as human beings. Feminism as a moment, including it’s ideological permeation throughout We…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/22 08:34 PM
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Positive and toxic masculinity are relative to the feminist experiencing the behaviour; namely, whether the behaviour benefits her, as an individual. You’ll notice that feminists avoid committing to concrete definitions for concepts like “patriarchy”, “toxic masculinity” and “oppression”. This is so that a man, actually anyone, performing an act, can be deemed “toxic” or “positive”, depending on whether it benefits HER. Not whether it benefits feminism and the progression of women’s liberties, n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/22 10:44 AM
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Caution: this post is darkly truthful. Things like cutting, no. As for attempts, largely based on very loose definitions of “attempt”, which to be honest, includes very clearly not sincerely committed attempts. Anyone with a brain in the field (or working in hospitals that receive those who have attempted) could tell you that a very large proportion of female “attempts” are signals for help. It’s their fail-safe measure to get immediate empathetic attention. This in itself shows that they have s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/22 11:33 PM
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Good luck 😂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 11:12 AM
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It’s a poorly written show. No heroes’ journey. This post is basically the response a rich kid has to not being picked as the starting quarterback because they’re not the best player.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 10:29 AM
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This all bothers you for one reason: you don’t know whether they actually believe their helping or if they know what they’re saying is bullshit. Here’s some advice. If the person giving you this advice is able to recognise different experience for different people, but not in this case, you’re dealing with someone who knows, but doesn’t care. If not, you’re dealing with someone who isn’t intelligent enough to fathom a differing experience to their own. The latter is kinda like how we depict alie…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:23 AM
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It’s a way of saying “those that should be protected”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:17 AM
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Yes, interpretations were subject to scientific misinterpretation. However, this was not a deliberate exit from scientific principles in favour of ideology; it was genuine human error. The difference here is where there were once accepted views, they were up for question in the pursuit of truth, because accepted scientific METHODOLOGY was the standard. Now, that is in the inverse. The method is an accepted view, but is subject to legitimacy based on it’s alignment with ideology. It’s made betwee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 08:07 AM
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Yes. To be competent in war, a man must be very much an arsehole to the enemy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:50 AM
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I disagree. There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. Moral weasels realise this when suddenly they need what they consider “toxic masculinity”; see Ukraine conflict.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:36 AM
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I’m showing the extreme end of a thought pattern. You know that’s what I’m doing, but you are playing the social game to discredit that by inferring I’m calling the authors akin to Nazis. A ridiculous interpretation to anyone with an ounce of social intellect. You are perfectly demonstrating the social games that led to the issues I am talking about. You see the world not in terms of the pursuit of truth, but in pursuit of who gains power from a particular narrative being perpetuated… and that’s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:24 AM
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Yes, adopting a social constructionist perspective of masculinity is absolutely no problem to those that push the idea that gender is entirely a social construct. It’s why we need anti-science people like you away from providing any kind of guidelines or treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:16 AM
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No, obviously not and you know that I’m not. I’m not naive to this social game, so do yourself a favour and have some integrity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:08 AM
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Copy pasted from the APA guidelines for the treatment of boys and men: Masculinity ideology is a set of descriptive, prescriptive, and proscriptive of cognitions about boys and men (Levant & Richmond, 2007; Pleck, Sonenstein, & Ku, 1994). Although there are differences in masculinity ideologies, there is a particular constellation of standards that have held sway over large segments of the pop- ulation, including: anti-femininity, achievement, eschewal of the appearance of weakness, and adventur…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:00 AM
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That’s how they rationalise it. To them, they are balancing the scales of history. A story as old as time: the Nazi’s thought they were oppressed by the Jews, that the Jews were dangerous and that the Nazis were defending themselves against future harm. I use this extreme example for a reason. It shows the extreme harm people are willing to do and feel righteous about doing, when they believe themselves to be a victim. Most people would be a Nazi if placed in 1942 Germany, but we consistently be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:40 AM
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There are absolutely some great therapists out there, but this measured approach is likely a matter of the individual, rather than training. Unfortunately, if you study psychology or even read the APA guidelines (admittedly, slightly improved in the most recent updates), men and masculinity are demonised and advised to be treated as a pathology, respectively. I have studied and worked in the field. This is something that Jordan Peterson (however you feel about him) identified with precision. Pos…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 04:27 AM
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This is pretty stock standard. Couples counselling for men is more often than not just gaslighting him into fixing his “problems”, without any reciprocity. For some reason, they never really get around to discussing her contributions. Always “something we can discuss next session”. I speak from experience. I calmly pointed out this out to the therapist after about 4 sessions and she actually said “you can’t force her to change”. I said “isn’t the inference of us being here is so that we can both…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 01:33 AM
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I disagree. I think the core of empathetic thought is to be able to treat everyone with empathy, regardless of how they treat you. It’s holding moral standard that cannot be disrupted by bad people. That’s not to say you should let people walk all over you, but it is to say that you should hold yourself to being a good person, regardless of any incentives to be so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 03:24 PM
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… because you accept current social realities, while looking to push the pin a little in your lifetime. The empathy gap is a result of thousands of years of evolution. To think you can change it significantly in your lifetime is VERY wishful thinking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 12:10 PM
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Of course I’d be for it. It benefits the child directly, which is the whole point of child support, supposedly. However, I’d bet my life savings that the majority of women, including those who are pro-child support from un-wanting fathers, would find the mental gymnastics to show how they’re against this for several “moral” reasons. Feminists talking points: “Are you saying that women who are raped should have to carry the baby to term and then give it up to adoption and then have to pay for chi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 10:00 AM
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Agreed, but this won’t track with the overwhelming majority of modern feminists. It’d be like asking a Christian to drop the terminology of Heaven and Hell. “Patriarchy” is the ever adapting derivative by which all feminist theory is birthed. It’s existence and terminology, are not to be questioned, because that would lead everything in feminist theory to be open to good faith inquiry. Within feminism, this CANNOT be allowed to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 07:43 AM
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Women and children are the real victims of war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 07:34 AM
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It probably starts lightly at about 8 years old. Sharp increase at onset of puberty. My take is that men being seen without empathy is actually okay, as long as they’re coached with the tools to be competent and resourceful in dealing with it. It’s not perfect, but certainty be empowering to have full agency over one’s life. My gripe is that in order to make women comfortable, boys and young men are told that the world aspires to equality, and that they should be treated exactly like women; with…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/22 07:29 AM
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I personally blame that on the patriarchy, but I know this sub has a tone that is more critical of feminism, so we can disagree on this last bit. ^ This sentence should be taught in schools as an example of how to ideologically disagree with someone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 05:52 PM
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Can you list three quick questions to differentiate? I need to start shortening my interactions with bad faith people haha (but seriously, it would help).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 05:13 PM
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I’ve done the same. They just start talking about when men display feminine traits. Femininity in men is their idea of positive masculinity. Masculinity is the disease and their cure is femininity. Except all this ideology leaves the moment they require masculinity, and then it’s pretending this doesn’t happen or some mental gymnastics to justify it as “choice”. For the former, it’s them suddenly being nowhere to be seen when a difficult and dirty task needs to get done. It’s the old going to th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 10:44 AM
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Yeah, but SLAY QUEEN.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 08:32 AM
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It’s just lip service for PR purposes. Understanding how feminists can do this in such a vapid manner is difficult for you to understand because either; a) you’re genuine and assume others are b) you assume everyone has basic empathy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 08:21 AM
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I’ll be honest, I skimmed this… but here’s the crux of what you seem to be getting at. Women, especially young women, don’t understand the experience of men. The same is true for men understanding women, but to a somewhat lesser extent for average to below average men, because they usually have to initiate, so they do more active research to build at least a little confidence before the approach. Now, empathetic and intelligent women, generally recognise that men may have different struggles to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 08:06 AM
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What motivates that hate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 10:50 AM
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Um, yes haha they’d act very similar if in power. The Nazis (extreme right) acted very similar to the Soviets (extreme left) when in power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 05:38 AM
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Horseshoe theory isn’t so much about tribal identification as it is a means to analyse the approach in one’s thinking / approach. ANTIFA is this best example of this that I can think of… the “group” is so supposedly against fascism that they use fascist tactics to “beat” fascism. Horseshoe in this sense is about using fire to beat fire. Code of conduct, rather than ideology itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 04:54 AM
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Can you elaborate on the first sentence?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 04:43 AM
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What do you think causes feminists to hold their ideas if it is not reactionary?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/22 04:12 AM
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I’ve studied in an adjacent field. Here is the crux of it: They do not understand the difference between a hypothesis and a theory. They do not understand the scientific process. They do not know how to control for confounding variables. They do not understand statistical significance. In the social sciences, if you want to know if you are talking to a serious person, you actually have to test them on the BASICS of quantitative analysis, but do it subtly and on non-controversial topics. A lot of…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/22 05:35 PM
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Hahaha yeah, that’s true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 03:34 PM
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Netflix Series.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 12:17 PM
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It’s the algorithm. YouTube is also a male dominated space, so you’re seeing a skew from the get-go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 11:41 AM
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When they talk about having empathy, it never includes empathy for men. I think this is because they never really consider men as human beings. Another commenter said that modern feminism is just rebranded traditionalism. I think this is absolutely accurate. It’s another form of “women and children first”. Except now, instead of just being about women’s physically safety, it’s about their total emotional safety. You might have noticed that feminism has moved from legal rights to “the right to fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/22 03:53 AM
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SPOILERS: A very well-written character. Powerful, emotionally mature and brave, with deep insecurities constantly trying to interfere with those positive traits. The scene with her and the bore (panicked action), followed by her walking into the camp with her chin up (showing the confidence boost gained from confronting one’s fears). THIS is character development.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 05:47 PM
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True. I’d even add that it’s important, because when young people who get swindled into feeling guilt and shame by power hungry SJW types, it’s usually because they’re naive to the fact that sociopaths can revel in hurting you while using a soft voice and the veil of compassion. I think the reason feminism took a grip of major institutions, was because they played the compassion well and integrated it into pre-existing evolutionary mechanisms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 05:39 AM
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Statistically insignificant ;)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 05:33 AM
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Invincible* typo :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 05:05 AM
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Not when that “disabled kid” has done severe damage to a lot of people. I think for a lot of people they need at least a period of anti-SJW content so that they can unwind the social pressure. I myself was caught in the crossfire of these people, and what I learned is that most SJWs are just scared (forgivable), but some are actually straight up evil. The latter know what they’re doing and they know how much is messes up people’s minds, but they do it for power. Good examples can be found in som…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 05:05 AM
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Hahaha I did not think about this, but it’s kinda comical. Next we will be hearing about “the unrealistic capabilities and moral standards of women in movies”. Maybe even “building that amount of lean muscle on women is impossible for most and we should stop showing muscly superheroes”. To your point on feminists celebrating it, I think it’s most useful to understand feminists as narcissists using social and “moral” posturing. Only a narcissist would want to be represented by an invisible charac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 04:42 AM
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Dude, you could lower your standards to a kind, albeit overweight woman, but you won’t. Your complaint is basically “I’m unattractive and it’s demoralising that hot women don’t want me”. I could be empathetic and say “poor you” in every comment, but that wouldn’t actually progress you forward. You’d feel good for a moment, but your material reality wouldn’t change. My advice: date less physically attractive women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 04:23 AM
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a) do it more and do it better b) it’s enough to spark interest c) okay, so you can get women, you just think you’re above the women you can get Dude, all of this is basically whining about the hand of cards you’ve been dealt. You got dealt these cards, so play them. We all have bad elements of our lives. My upbringing was incredibly violent and verbally abusive. It messed me up, but here’s the thing, that’s my hand. I can either unalive myself or play it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 01:44 AM
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a) Dress well, shave and smell good. Start working out. Your demeanour will change. b) That’s not how you ask a girl out. You strike up a conversation and at the end of that conversation, you say “you seem alright, let’s do this again sometime over dinner”. If it has to be asked as a question, then she’s probably going to say “no” anyway. Yes, you’ll get rejected a lot. c) drop them further until women start saying yes. That’s where your standard current is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 11:36 PM
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Firstly, “drowning in pussy” gets very old, very quickly. As for your height and build, yeah it’s not ideal, but women care much more about competence than those things. They’d just need to see you in the context of being competent. It’s also the fact that you’re focusing way to much on their approval that is likely turning them off. When you seek someone’s approval, it signals that you’re lower status than them. Women like high status men. It’s why they might call a player a “fuck boy” but they…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 11:23 PM
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Certainly possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 10:13 AM
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I totally see where you’re coming from my dude. I’m good looking, tall and athletic. Their “values” are not applied to men like me, even the most vehement feminist. I have occasionally explicitly asked “why do you accept this behaviour from me by criticise the other guy for doing the same thing?”. What I found out from asking this question, is that they know. They know it’s all bullshit, and it doesn’t really bother them. The question that really bothers them, is the one I follow up with, which …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/22 05:48 AM
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I’m a millennial, and I had the exact same question as you for a while. “Is this just women my age?”. I found that it’s pretty consistent across the generations. The real differentiator is how closely they align with feminism. The stronger they aligned with feminism, the more positively they responded to displays of “toxic masculinity”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/22 04:57 AM
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That’s fair, but what are you actually worried will happen here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 06:43 AM
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If you don’t mind me asking, why’d you get nervous?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 06:30 AM
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I’m really sorry that happened to you. Can you send a link to one of these memes so I can understand the type of messaging you’re taking about? I’m not really sure exactly what you mean here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 05:58 AM
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There isn’t an argument against it, just like their isn’t an argument against a prenup.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 01:16 AM
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Hmm a fair point. I don’t think he is perfect by any stretch, but his intellectual prose and good faith acting in the public sphere, marked a major turning point in mass media. In short, he says what he believes to be true, even if not quite accurate, and more importantly, doesn’t lower himself to cheap games.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 01:08 AM
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Perhaps, but I’d add that it’s circular. They believe feminist ideals at a conscious level, but are attracted to men who don’t represent those ideals. When they find themselves attracted, this to them is a moral failure or at least incongruence, which fills them with guilt and shame. To use religious terms, it would feel like they’re sinning. They take this shame out on the men who will not “fight back”, the male feminists. The male feminists inevitably disgust them, which drives their desire to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/22 01:04 AM
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I fully understand your premise and statements. I just disagree with them. Lastly, if it happens to be you having the issues with women, the victim mentality is likely one of the issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 05:34 PM
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I spoke with him more than a few times, but this isn’t so much to do with Peterson as it is to do with the idea. If you’re not selected in job applications, it’s not because all the employers are too narcissistic to see your brilliance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 05:27 PM
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It’s basically just bringing the unconscious to the conscious though several means. The most ethically sound way to do this with a therapist is via free talk therapy. Most people, if they talk enough, and ask enough “whys”, will get a little closer to their underlying issue. I happen to be a proponent that intense physical exercise can have a similar effect as is disinhibits anxious-avoidance tendencies by means of adrenaline. Psilocybin or MDMA can work too haha but those are a big no-no since …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 05:22 PM
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If the guy is being rejected by almost all women, then it’s likely he has some aspect about himself that could use improvement, yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 05:18 PM
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Well, they’re not good enough for the woman because the woman rejected him. That’s basic logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 04:36 PM
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CBT can be useful, particularly for those who have depression and/or anxiety and might benefit from reappraisal. However, I have absolutely no idea why you believe psychoanalysis to be flawed. It’s exceptionally effective as the pre-curser to methods like cognitive behavioural therapy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 04:35 PM
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Of course. There are certainly other traits that rationally make for better long term partners, but people aren’t always rational when it comes to reproduction. The ability to counteract our reproductive instincts is arguably what defines the establishment of human ethics. In short, they might not be ideal genetics now, but our limbic system (short-hand construct) doesn’t know that haha
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 03:32 PM
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I’m sorry to hear that. At least he was working hard to provide for you, but I think we are now seeing the impact of mass absent fathers. All the best mate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 03:17 PM
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This might seem on the nose, but where was your father in all of this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 03:03 PM
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Speaking from a strictly biological perspective, he’s not wrong. Women are the sexual selectors. If we give a charitable interpretation of his words here, then “wrong” merely means “not viable in sexual selection”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 03:01 PM
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Psychoanalysis is the bread and butter of Freudian and Jungian psychology. JP favours a Jungian approach to clinical practice. We can skip over that though, because I think it’s unfair to hold your feat to the fire on specific areas of a field you might not be trained in (not being patronising - I wouldn’t expect you to hold me to account in your field). As for the religious analysis, I can see where you are coming from. However, I also understand why he does it. Any clin psych worth their salt …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 02:59 PM
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Again dude, this post isn’t about formulating arguments, debates or even advocating for that matter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 02:03 PM
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What pseudo intellectual arguments does he make? I’ll be upfront, he was a guest lecturer in a few of my classes and he was one of the most well-read professors to which I’ve ever spoken. On the topic he was talking to, at least. Hence the strong defensive stance I hold.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 01:33 PM
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The post isn’t “prove feminists are wrong about x”, it’s just an opener to share one’s personal experience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 01:16 PM
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Interesting response. I can see what you mean about being ground down over time. I am curious curious about the assertion that Jordan Peterson is part grifter. What has led you to believe that of him? I am a big fan of his work, but still ask this question in good faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 01:14 PM
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Dude, what bone do you have to pick here? Is it that you only accept people’s stories if they’re perfectly accurate? Emotion and recollection don’t work that way. It’s a beat approximation of one’s experience. “Gotcha” moments aren’t productive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:56 AM
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It happened in several of my classes. It’s usually done in a more subtle manner, e.g. the teacher saying that they only want to hear from those they call on to speak, but almost exclusively selecting girls to speak. I actually counted it once, she selected 15 girls to speak and 1 boy, in a class with approx 50/50 gender split. There was also a pretty proportional raising of hands to speak, although admittedly that’s difficult to precisely measure.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:10 AM
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What do you think is motivating them to do so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:05 AM
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That’s rough dude. If you don’t mind me asking, what did you parents say when they walked in?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 11:04 AM
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Has anyone brought this to the attention of management?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 10:59 AM
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Whatever works for you, my dude :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 10:50 AM
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Try not to start a response with “I seriously doubt” the story. People tend to naturally clam up when this is the opener. We’re here to facilitate discussion :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 10:45 AM
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No need to apologise for the edits. Use this post as you wish :) break the dam. If you don’t mind me asking, was it women close to you beating you down? If so, who? Did you have a father present to stand up for you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 10:42 AM
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That’s okay. I guess this post isn’t for you as much as others might need it for a vent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 09:58 AM
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Yes, I know why they do the anecdotal analysis, and this isn’t a post designed to bring pseudoscience into men’s advocacy. It’s just presenting a cathartic opportunity for men and women who otherwise wouldn’t have a healthy outlet. Consider it for personal, rather than scientific purposes :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/22 09:27 AM
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I think it’s more the fact that they pretend to give a shit. I’d much rather a “yeah, fuck lonely men and I don’t care about male suicide”, but instead of this, they force people to listen to their empty proclamations about how men need to open up like wonderful women do. I’ve seen so many men in my life just overtly say “I don’t care about… (some social justice issue)” and it’s so much easier to be like “oh, alright, no problem”. It’s the unearned moral posturing that gets me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 09:01 AM
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A zero tolerance policy on saying openly denigrating things to boys an young men. We condemn it towards every other subgroup. I’ve seen even the most talented and handsome men become absolutely demoralised before they even reach adulthood. It breaks mens esteem down to the absolute floor, and women don’t want a man with this low self esteem. Our cultures apathy to this phenomenon is astounding. It’s not good for men, and it’s really not good for women when these guys just snap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 08:53 AM
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In talking about* My point is that they’re usually hostile in theory and agreeable in practice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 08:42 AM
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Lying to a predator to save a life and lying to the public for your own material gain. No, these are not different steps in a spectrum. Just, no. I will not follow you down this “for the greater good” path. This is just PR in a more erudite prose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 08:41 AM
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Ayn Rand’s philosophy, which is effectively what you described, is not classic liberalism. Classic liberalism advocates freedoms from a legal perspective, but it’s principles are not indifferent to the pursuit and propagation of what one believes to be true. What you’re talking about sounds more like an American Psycho approach to nihilism. Classic liberalism is individualist not only for the benefit of the individual, but for that of the overall collective. That’s why Kennedy’s “think not what …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 05:14 AM
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Be commanding, without using obscene or disrespectful language. This seems to be the best balance. E.g. Let’s get drinks on Saturday. I’ll pick you up at 8pm. Dress nicely, because the place we are going is nice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 04:50 AM
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I was painting a stereotype of Bo Burham 😂 but whatever it is, women love competence above all else. Height, looks and muscle are just automatic displays of competence. Unfortunately you’ll have to show yours. Trust me, women were always attracted to me, but the this was NOTHING in comparison to when I showed them I was intelligent and a talented athlete. I use “showed” because it’s important to separate status from competence. If a guy is known as a good athlete by peers, it will catch her inte…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 04:26 AM
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Develop competence. Women swoon over a skinny white awkward dude the moment he shows he can play the piano well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 03:51 AM
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I’ll check it out. I’d have to firmly disagree on the Jordan Peterson comment. He has just refocused on the source of the post-modernist issue, which only really resonates if you’ve seen those people in action for a reasonable period of time. Before now he was pointing to where we are as a society and how the individual can remedy their own crisis. This resonated widely because it produced well-developed self improvement structures for the individual. Now he’s going after the cause and causers o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 01:07 AM
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This is the top tier, measured response that I was seeking. Kudos. Are those exerts from Sexual Personae?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 12:57 AM
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I don’t think they care about equality or gender in the slightest. They’re just power hungry and feminism provides them a means for exploitation without immediate accountability. Whether they are conscious of this depends on the feminist. My political leaning entirely depends on the issue and politician in question. I have voted for both parties and independents depending on their stances, character and the extent to which they deny science / reality for political gain. I say left, because I bel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 12:50 AM
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This was both with women I knew and didn’t know at all. I agree that knowing someone well makes it easier to change their mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 12:31 AM
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What’s wrong is that they imply reciprocity and then when the check comes, they slither out via rhetoric. In short, I see modern feminists as morally and practically akin to slimy car sales people. From their celebrating all female political teams (e.g. US Whitehouse Communications team) to fact that they don’t insist on paying half for a date. They always some bullshit about making up for a history they themselves never experienced. Feminists have always said that they’re fighting for equality …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 04:04 PM
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I would absolutely prefer the chastity option. At least then they’re not just accepting the fact that they’re hypocritical and continuing the behaviour. It’s not that they like masculine men or that they promote feminist ideals of soft boys being preferred… it’s that they’re doing those things simultaneously. Every second feminist (yes, anecdotal, but overwhelmingly consistent in my experience) promotes ideals of sensitive boys being preferred, while behind closed doors, they acknowledge not jus…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 02:50 PM
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Do you think these types explicitly know what they’re doing to the guys they’re telling these things to? If so, have they ever openly admitted to you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 02:24 PM
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To answer your question, I said these kinds of things with a sense of seriousness and dominance to a wide array of women. Some of which I knew well, some I didn’t know well at all. They ALL responded in a very similar manner. A half-hearted protest, followed by doing the thing I told them to do. I shouldn’t have to clarify this, but again, NO, I did not put them in pressured or vulnerable positions and the women I associate with tend to be (best guess) in the 115+ IQ range. I also flat out rejec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 01:29 PM
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How old are you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 01:01 PM
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Yeah, but here’s the thing. It’s not that they treated me well, is that they treated me comparatively better than when I was a self-respecting male feminist. Think it’s important to note that when I was a feminist, I was self respecting, because the large majority of male feminists, aren’t.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 12:14 PM
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Most of your points were way off from addressing mine, so I returned the favour. I was in the red pill community. They talk most about “women”. Feminism is at best a backdrop. The current social climate isn’t control by feminism, it’s controlled by money. They’re not randoms and you know it. The Rational Male is often marked as the starting reading point for anyone being red pilled. Unless you’re talking about popular younger dudes in TRP community like Sneako, which is arguably worse. The Dulut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 12:04 PM
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Hmm the most toxic kind of behaviour was usually just the general attitude that if I wanted them I could have them and if I told them to do something, they’d do it. To clarify, I am NOT talking about sexual assault. A good example of what I am talking about is saying to friends or prospective sexual partners alike, stuff like “when we hang out today, wear the blue dress, it makes your ass look good”. I might occasionally have received a brief “excuse me?”, which I’d ignore, and without fail, the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 11:14 AM
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I understand why it’s called Red Pill. A central claim in Red Pill ideology is that women (not just feminists… women) are emotionally driven and quite poor at self-reflection. It does not apply this sentiment onto men. It characterises men as both more rational and more creative. These traits are often in conflict with each other. This is a good example of propagating evolutionary psychology without being well-read in the field. Male sexual “imperatives”, at least from an evolutionary perspectiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 10:58 AM
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You’d think so, but during my feminist phase I had a couple of long term relationships with very typically feminine, soft and caring women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 10:15 AM
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Can you give a few examples of the “dirty tactics” that you believe the classical liberal feminists have no problem leveraging? It’d be useful to understand what tactics / self interested outcomes you’re referring to here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 10:11 AM
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I am not Red Pill. Here’s why: Red Pillers fundamentally view women as less able to view the world and themselves objectively or rationally, or at least much less than men. Haven’t seen a shred of scientific evidence for this claim. They advocate primarily short-term relationships, nexting women who don’t fit into their “frame”. They’re basically being a pussy who’s too scared to be vulnerable with a woman who might potentially challenge them. Their concept of “women” is essentially women on soc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 08:51 AM
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That’s okay, but why lie about it? Why not just be honest like most men are about what attracts them in women? I really do think I believe the shit test theory holds weight here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 08:14 AM
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Okay, but when those traits are displayed, they reward them. Is this ideology vs. biology OR a conscious sorting of men (useful vs. attractive)?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 07:57 AM
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Fight Club, but you know, with a pinch of reality. The message is about freedom to be masculine is great, just don’t go around being a violent terrorist. Dunkirk, Fury and just about any WWI & WW2 movie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 06:33 AM
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People who hate themselves are easy to control. Most feminists probably don’t consciously think this explicitly about it, but that’s the nature of it. The average feminist is just a person engulfed by dogma that rarely holds them accountable for their actions, as well as social pressure. This feminist doesn’t even realise he’s serving her because he hates himself and being a subservient dog to her needs might ease his relentless guilt and shame. She just thinks “oh he listens to my problems, doe…
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