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Depends what you mean by 'pure'. With my own definition, I would say it is purer, but not pure in the sense that it is more rooted in who the person is. I think male love is shallow. It's more focused on visuals and physicality than personality (and I'm not convinced with the 'physicality is who they are'. Do women cease to be themselves as the wrinkle and grow old, when their bodies start to sag. Is that not them anymore? Because it's not a secret that men think differently of the women they lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 02:12 PM
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Yeah you're thinking of the Dunbar Number - 150
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 12:18 PM
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So, if you were to suddenly say, "Not all girls in sororities are like that", I wouldn't deny that, but I am still going to keep my generalization about them, as i haven't sen anything to the contrary. I don't understand your objection (if that's what you're doing). If you're not going to deny it, you're not the type of person I'm talking about. You're still accepting that not literally everyone in a group does that thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 09:37 AM
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It would be a problem if there weren't so many reds actually talking in absolutes in their arguments. And I'm not talking about AWALT, I'm talking about "if women say differently they are lying" and then proceeding to tell women/men who talk about their own contrary experiences that they are actually mistaken. When a person holds such staunch believes, which many do on here, a single anecdote is all that's needed to debunk it. I haven't been on this sub long but already that has happened to me R…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 12:34 AM
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Well I'm just glad that the rest of the world doesn't have your mentality, otherwise we would render ourselves extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:37 PM
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Right, shit, yeah! Because of HR, nothing bad happens ever! And if it does, the person is caught, 100% of the time, all with flawless efficiency! For the third time: If you can't give someone the benefit of the doubt with the shit they deal with, why should they give it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:04 PM
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Second, that they were customers isn't germane to anything. I mean, it obviously is. If you're going to be a shit to someone, are you going to be more willing to do it where you have complete anonymity and never have to go again, or where you are obligated to work 9 til 5, 5 days a week? Where your name is on file and they can lay you off with a drop of a hat? why are they complaining about it? It was brought up within the context of a debate, I don't think that counts as complaining, unless you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:49 PM
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First, the story you're referring to didn't happen in an office. A place of work, yes. Secondly, the perpetrators in question were customers, not fellow employees. Thirdly, did you not notice how many women mentioned how they don't even report stuff like that? It's just normal. It's too much hassle to chase down, so they don't. If you can't give someone the benefit of the doubt with the shit they deal with, why should they give it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:44 PM
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Factors not under my control: My dwarfism. That's kind of a biggie. Most women don't go for guys the same height as an 8 year old Baby face. I also look fairly young for my age, even with my condition considered, I probably look about 16/17 Factors under my control: My introversion. I do think i go out fairly regularly (more than once a week) but that's with people I already know. I don't do anything in my life which opens up the possibility of meeting new people A bit of social awkwardness. I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:39 PM
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To many people who post here, these are all made up fictions. These didn't happen, they're exaggerated and overblown Wow, sounds shockingly like your response to the stories women had about sexual harassment! Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:29 PM
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Yeah. Despite what happened in the post I made in this thread, there's no rational reason to have the attitudes some men on here have. It's ludicrous. Men have been just as shitty to me too, but it's cool for me to have a resentment towards women because they give me a boner? ...alright?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:27 PM
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Admittedly this was in high school, but even for high school I think this was pretty shit. In our school we had a Christmas dance each year, and for a month before each dance our PE lessons turned into mandatory dance practices (we do Scottish dancing, shit's complex). Basically, we had a lot of 'dances' that you had to participate in. The practices had just the same amount of awkward teenage tension as the real thing. All the girls in my year were either repulsed by me, or peer pressured into b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 12:25 PM
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Yes and by all rights they are a very separate social class - probably one of the most clearly defined of them all. I assumed you were from the UK because this was a discussion about the british class system which is notably different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 06:25 PM
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No it isn't. It's definitely a factor. Of course it is, a huge one, but it's not the factor. They are social classes, not economic ones. Like I was saying to /u/groovyEFS, a Lord who is bankrupt is still upper-class, and wealthy celebrities are not (my example was Lee Mack). It's about social categories. Wealth does come into it, but it is not the defining factor. I would say class being purely defined by money was closer to the American class system.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 04:44 PM
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Obviously it depends, but the family I know takes care of them themselves. They can be wealthy as you like. They're still upper-middle class. Their category of wealth is not what designates them as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 04:37 PM
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I live in a golfing town in rural scotland, upper-middle class are characterised here by owning horses (and horses aren't always kept on your own property). It depends on where they live. Upper-middle class living in suburban/city areas have different conventions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 04:27 PM
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Yeah. When 'upper-class' is aristocracy, that tends to be how it works. To me, having a 4 bedroom house with a BMW also fits my description. I don't associate upper-middle class living on acreage with with a barn (though having those things doesn't exclude you from it either, like I said it's more about social standing rather than material belongings)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 02:40 PM
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Yeah it is intertwined and complex, definitely. I'd say my parents are working class, regardless of how financially successful my dad is, but since I was brought up where I was, I'd say I was middle. I do feel a distance with working class people due to not moving in the same circles as them. I also feel it with upper-middle people around me (I swear they live on easy mode with the connections they have with people of influence/power) just less so. Either way, I find this social stuff fascinatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 12:53 PM
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Upper-class (and class in general) isn't just defined by money though. If you're a lord and you're bankrupt, you're still upper-class. That doesn't make you working/middle-class. Wealthy celebrities aren't upper-class. Lee Mack can earn all the money he wants, he'll still be effectively seen as working-class, but economically living upper-middle. Money-driven class systems seem more American to me. They are social classes, not economic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 12:34 PM
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It sounds like you were around a lot of upper class people growing up. No I wasn't. Upper-class = aristocracy. That is the definition in the UK. A couple of aristocratic people lived in my town, but that was it. They were definitely a world away from me. Everyone else was either middle/upper-middle, and we were not as well-off as them. My parents were from council estates in Glasgow, but managed to jump up to middle-class living when my Dad got pretty senior in his engineering profession. Yeah I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 12:24 PM
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TIL I was brought up upper-middle class, holy shit. I would label myself as middle/slightly lower-middle class tbh. Where I lived, we were one of the least well-off. I think upper-middle class is getting into 'we own a couple of horses, the mother essentially has a hobby acting as a philanthropist and running a large charity, the family probably has tenuous connections with some upper-class/aristocracy types' etc. I think most RPers are just middle class if not lower middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 12:08 PM
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by which I mean upper-middle class or above - money is the only real privilege Genuine question for some clarification, is the class system different in the US from UK (as in, what the parameters are for working, middle, upper class etc.)? Because because being upper-middle class or above...you're getting into genuine aristocracy there for the UK. I do not picture RPers being 'old money' types haha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 11:58 AM
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I'm just saying man, people don't get arrested for just saying suggestive shit within earshot of people, unless it's communist russia or north korea or something. Most of my female friends have stories like this. And to them it's not even that big of a deal, it's just normal and common. I can guarantee that shit happens where you are too. I mean, unless you have female friends who feel open to talking to you about this stuff, why would you be aware of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:38 PM
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Where do you live? A feminist dystopia?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:33 PM
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What parallel universe are you living in??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:31 PM
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Wow, really? Those remarks aren't even that far out there. That shit happens all the time man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:29 PM
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Whenever this incel business is brought up I really wish I could converse with these people over webcam or something, just to get a grasp of what these people are actually like. A lot of incels weigh their lack of success on the fact that they are irredeemably hideous, and we can't check them on that. We just got to take them on good faith, you know? And personally, I highly doubt that that majority of self-described incels are beyond help. I'm extremely introverted and disabled/deformed, and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 12:35 AM
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I think because the solution seems so obvious. As someone who could easily be described as an incel, I think a lot of commentary is right on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 12:24 AM
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Likewise TRP gets most things right about incels I'm assuming you're an incel if you have the authority to state that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 12:22 AM
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Shit. I'm so screwed then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 09:05 PM
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Unless you're a very feminine man (which I suspect you are, since you unironically listed "emotional support ") Hah, I was just waiting for you to pick that out. Yes, emotional support - when I need it. One of my close friends died at the beginning of this month. Because I'm not a robot, I was upset about this. My friends helped be through it. Called to check if I was doing alright, got drunk with me, kept me company. If that makes me 'a very feminine man', then shit, I feel pity for 'masculine …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:45 PM
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What do you get from male friends? I get company, emotional support when I need it, interesting discussion, favours, everything you typically expect from a friend. I'd say there was one female friend I had something resembling feelings towards. But it didn't amount to much. Got butterflies around her, but it was clear she was oblivious to it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:40 PM
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Enlighten me as to how I use theory to see my friends inner thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:31 PM
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Confused? No I'm not. I'm either wrong, right or somewhere in between. I'm not confused about anything. My other male friends definitely have me fooled if that's the case though. They're pretty indifferent to our mutual female friends. It's not like all of our female friends are particularly attractive either. I feel like this is another case where unattractive women just don't exist in these discussions. Edit: grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:26 PM
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I can't lol. The only basis for our beliefs are anecdotal right? And even then, subject to our own interpretations. Idk what else can be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 11:49 PM
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I definitely think it's easily over 10%, but there's no real grounds we can convince one another on this I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 11:15 PM
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But take the RP concept of 'oneitis'. I think a lot of young guys get oneitis, and why is it called oneitis? Because they faun over one girl. I do admit that I am an anomaly in that I just don't feel sexually attracted to practically any women, but most of my male friends do, over one person. The other girls they interact with might as well be dudes for all they care, and their friendships with these other girls reflect as much. And I'm not even arguing that most men are like that. You just made…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 10:01 PM
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But how do you know that? I'm friends with women. I have other male friends who are friends with women. We aren't attracted to them/want to have sex with them. There's no power imbalance. It's just a typical friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 09:50 PM
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Not BP but pretty blue when it comes to this subject. Most of my friends are women, including my best friend, and there has never been any form of unrequited feelings being exploited. They never get me to 'do things for them' any more than male friends do. If anything, I think I'm shortchanging them when it comes to support and favours. I think this is something which differs a bit, in the UK - as in the attitudes regarding courtship and male/female friends. It's very lax here. I'd say it's very…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 09:24 PM
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If I went off my social circle, hardly any. My friends are mostly women, I'd say I'm close with about 7 of them. 3 of them are virgins in their early 20s (and no, they're not weird, ugly or overweight, just relatively introverted) 2 of them have slept with around 4 guys probably, and one has had 2 long term relationships and nothing else. Soo 2 out of the seven are the closest to being CC riders, and even then, I'd say only one of them really sets out to do so (with FWB arrangements etc). Maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 03:26 PM
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...How does that indicate that most women lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 03:13 PM
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Yeah that's pretty accurate actually haha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:28 PM
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I seem to have been saved from experiencing much frustration due to my complete lack of sex drive. It's all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:50 PM
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Man I'm 4'0" due to dwarfism, fuck Stu's lanky ass lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:22 PM
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I mean, I also think attitude matters more than height, but I still think height matters a huge amount. When people put "if you're under 6' don't bother" on their dating profiles, don't take it as face value, it doesn't mean much. Dating sites like OKCupid and Match.com have ended up altering matching algorithms to stop pairing women to men shorter than them due to the number of women sending in complaints. Women don't add that requirement for nothing. People like attractive people. Your height,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:12 PM
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Damn, that sucks man. You've probably had this convo 100 times before on here but is surgery not an option? From what I recall you have a good salary, so it couldn't be written off for financial reasons right? I'm not that familiar with the costs of US healthcare (assuming you're from the US). Edit: just saw you mention getting a US visa so guessing you're not American then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:07 PM
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Can I ask how you are physically hideous/deformed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:48 PM
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Do you know why she rejected you? Are you physically hideous/deformed or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:40 PM
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The mere idea of me having sex with someone else is gross to me. Are you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 08:21 PM
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Call it what you want, it's still common ground and a topic of discussion that is already there from moment you interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 08:18 PM
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Doubtful. You don't start talking to people in bars and clubs already having explicit knowledge of a common interest you both actively pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 07:32 PM
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I completely disagree. Once you understand how women work, it's very easy to see their sexuality. So they're easy to understand once you understand them? huh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 09:25 PM
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Ok but that is as a result of their social ineptness. I would call that a stretch to say that they were discriminated against 'because they are a virgin', when that element could be completely removed and they'd still be treated the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:35 AM
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I honestly can't fathom there being notable stigma about being an older male virgin outside of the internet. Sure, I'm only 22, but I have experienced literally no negative interactions because of it, and it's not like I lie about it or keep quiet about it either. Usually the feedback is something a long the lines of "yeah? I know this other guy who is the same, it's a shame, he's such a nice guy!" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:14 PM
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That's you though, do you really think virgins are genuinely discriminated against in terms of employment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 10:09 PM
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Yes. I still fail to see how this is any reflection on incels in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:23 PM
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Well no, it doesn't. It proves that healthy men will go out with obese women. That doesn't illustrate any reflection on the standards of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 04:56 PM
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It isn't, I agree. It is childish tbh. This isn't to justify it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some FAs revel in the 'persecution' either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:17 PM
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I'm just trying to illustrate that 'helping' is probably a waste of time and I'm sure a lot of bluepillers have figured the same (and I was a bluepiller for most of that time). It's hard to help people out of misery when they are addicted to said misery
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 03:32 PM
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Dude, I've spent about 3 years posting on /r/short (a sub very similar to FA) to trying to help (and not concern trolling - genuine help) but to no avail. They don't want help, they want victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 01:17 PM
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Really? Why is that? Surely it's better to not have food and not feel hunger than not have food and be starving. Personally, I don't have much of a sex drive and don't think much about sex. I don't seem to feel a fraction of the angst and turmoil other virgins or 'incels' do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:44 PM
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How can you be sure it's that and not your demeanour and personality? I've seen a lot of your posts online and it seems like you are very hung up on this stuff and insecurity is one of the most off-putting things a guy can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:29 PM
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I wouldn't really call myself an 'incel' (to me, just calling yourself that implies a defeatist attitude and a resignation, which in itself makes your situation less 'involuntary'), but I know people in less dire situations to me do call themselves incel so I guess I count? I would say I don't try. I am fairly sociable, but also very introverted and feel no urge for sex, so I'm not torn up about that being absent from my life. I'm 4' tall and malformed due to dwarfism, so that narrows down the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:18 PM
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Stop giving a shit really. Or hang out with people who don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:58 PM
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Yeah, raping your 13yo disabled son by proxy (in the books) and emphasising that nobody will ever love him is a sure way to end up with mentally well-adjusted kin who will in no way turn against you. Good job Tywin! Dad of the year!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 02:04 PM
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Dude that's some Tyrion/Jaime shit just waiting to happen
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 11:51 AM
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damn, thats like the whole of female tumblr users. and i'm not just talking about the sjw crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 09:41 PM
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Probably my intense introversion. That is the kicker since it's what results in me physically avoiding any possibility of meeting potential relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 08:53 PM
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That's not really how it comes across. It's not like they don't want to talk about it. On the contrary, a couple of times I've ended up forcefully changing the conversation after they took it upon themselves to lecture me about how I messed up in not trying to go along with it. That's not being awkward because they don't care about my feelings, that's them genuinely expressing how they feel about such a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 07:59 AM
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Chiming in with my own anecdotal evidence to say that in my experience it is definitely gendered. I've never once heard women joke about statutory rape cases like these. But I've heard plenty from men - both joking and being serious. And on a tangent to that, I've given up trying to have any meaningful discussion with any guys I know about when I was sexually assaulted- thanks to the unanimous "was she hot? why didn't you fuck her? What's wrong with you?" reaction. Yet every women I have confide…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 11:19 PM
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Ok but that's still not really answering my question, is there anything women could have done, which would have been in their power, to take on that equal responsibility? I mean. They were restricted from doing that by men. To me that's got the same level of reasoning as tripping someone over and scolding them for falling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 08:28 PM
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The biggest rub is that women never had to do anything to defend their right to vote. It was just granted to them. When you say rub is this a frustration that women didn't do more? If so, what should they have done that was in their power to defend it besides suffrage movements? TRP is tends to lean conservative/libertarian which has more stress over having more personal control over how you live your life and the government mostly leaving you alone. We would rather be our own authority figures …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 06:30 PM
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My sister slowly lost attraction for two of her boyfriends (and eventually broke up with them due to said lack of attraction) after they worked out and got ripped. The funny thing is that in both cases they would show her pictures of men from fittness magazines saying that was their aim and she would say over and over again 'I find that too much/not attractive' and they would outright say that they didn't believe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 06:34 PM
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I wouldn't call it sexual but it would definitely be inappropriate. It's not just binary sexual/nonsexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 10:13 PM
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I'd say it would have to do with gentials for a start
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 09:12 PM
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Yeah? That doesn't make it sexual. It could mean a relationship, and a romantic one at that, but not necessarily sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 08:21 PM
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Your definition of what is sexual is too wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 05:01 PM
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TIL I'm sexual with my family members
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 04:54 PM
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Seems a bit wordy. I think I'm going to stick to asexual, which is a perfectly apt term designed to describe this specific state.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:18 PM
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But it's not that simple. It's not just not having met someone you're attracted to, it's not having any sexual desires or want for sex at all. That pretty much guarantees that you're never going to find someone sexually attractive (or makes them so rare it defeats the purpose).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:10 PM
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I think most people who claim to be asexual (particularly women) aren't. They either have a slow sex drive or are finding a way to rationalise not pursing any kind of relationship. That being said, if someone asked what my situation was right now, I would definitely throw out the word 'asexual' to describe my sexuality. I don't know for sure if I am asexual for definite - I kind of doubt it - but I don't seem to experience any kind of sexual desires or attraction towards either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:08 PM
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So what are you supposed to do when you genuinely don't feel sexual attraction towards anyone and someone asks what your deal is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:04 PM
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I can't get my head around some of the conclusions your making. Telling you they're asexual = they're afraid of you? If they weren't afraid of you, they'd be honest? Really? Fear is the only thing which makes women lie? Telling you they're asexual = a worse thing to do than saying they're gay or taken (if they claimed those would you still see them as being afraid of you)? What difference does it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 08:27 PM
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I'm struggling to understand this post. You're frustrated at women for being anxious and trying to let you down easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 07:35 PM
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Yes, well done! And not every relationship (specifically a FWB relationship which involves a woman going over to some guys' place because he texted her) is a slave/master situation where said woman is the one and only disposable fucktoy. As that other commenter said, that is not enough information to go on to make that assumption. I've lived with female flatmates who have participated in relationships which would fit that description, and wow, it was the complete reverse in terms of who felt lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 06:21 AM
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Because two adults exercising their own will to both get what they want is comparable to a slave/master dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 12:00 PM
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If anyone is forward enough to show that curiosity, it's always men. Since women don't see me in a sexual light, the last thing on their mind is what my dick is like. Men fall into the "you can kick your own head, right?"/"so is your dick in proportion?" category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 11:30 AM
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It's one of my favourite films of all time. I'm staring at a huge poster of it on my wall right now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 11:23 AM
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Like I said I have no want/need for sex. So I'm not going to splash out money for it. I have been to Bruges though. Beautiful city. Like a fairytale.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 11:15 AM
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I would assume it was because I have dwarfism. People with disabilities seem to be viewed as asexual in nature a lot of the time. I know some people don't make that association of dwarfism being a disability, but I think the same kind of 'othering' applies. People don't assume the same human depth of me as they do of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/16 01:26 AM
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People don't tend to think of me as a sexual being in the first place, so it's not something people have ever discussed with me. Nobody asks me about anything related to relationships or sex, ever (which I'm pretty happy about tbh). It has come up a couple of times via party "have you ever"-type games, but my friends are all kinda reserved and inexperienced and there are few virgins in the bunch, so it wasn't that note-worthy at the time. The only time I get any kind of response about it is ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/16 09:24 PM
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Despite typically not watching buzzfeed stuff, I did check out this video as it caught my interest. What took me aback was how contrived it was. I love how they all uniformly come to the exact same conclusion (some of them doing a complete 180 in their attitudes in the process) within a couple of minutes. It seemed to me that their mindsets, whether they were before or after, were completely manufactured. I like how male body image was highlighted as an issue, but the way they did it was so forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/16 07:39 PM
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The catch is, if you treat women genuinely like people, without giving them extra 100 points just for being women... they're really not worth much. They're weak, they're not stupid but have no drive for discovery, they don't have the ambition to climb mountains "just because they're there" wow I'm having a genuinely hard time thinking of any men I know who could fit that description notably more than any women I know. I have not experienced any gender disparity in those traits whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 12:49 PM
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Isn't it a bit of a premature heralding then if it happens at 30/late 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 11:53 PM
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Oh he did. It used to be even worse. I'm not a laughing stock to quite as many people anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 06:39 AM
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Even when it comes to dwarfs, women are far more desirable. They are far more likely to be able to date average, able-bodied people than us lowly male dwarfs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 01:24 AM
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Can you spread this mindset via osmosis or something? that would be great, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:56 PM
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I realised I was unattractive in a general sense when I was very young (my appearance has been fodder for bullying during most of my childhood) but it was really when I started having female friends, when I was about 13, that I became aware of how I was unattractive in a very gendered way. Some girls were completely fine around me, but a significant number were visibly bothered about being so much bigger in size compared to me. A couple of girls (girls I called friends) were bothered so much tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 07:18 PM
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What is smv? I'm kind of new here. Leave while you still can, you pure innocent cinnamon bun
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:31 PM
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I even see women in nightclubs emptying their drink on the heads of beta males The fuck? Are you really saying this is a recurring thing you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:25 PM
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I would fit the description of a beta male and have never seen this happen outside of a high school. Then again I don't go clubbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 05:41 PM
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I guess telling you that people going 'dutch' on dates is kind of the norm in the UK would blow your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:34 PM
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Not directly. Not to a person who seems to be uninterested in hearing it. Lol ok this debate is over then. You're refusing to meet me half way and this is waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 04:39 PM
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I don't believe you. So you're not going to bother providing an alternative reason? Wow what a neat way to debate - not having to provide any counterpoints by just assuming the other person won't listen, handy! Because you are very invested in the goal of discrediting incels and belittling their experiences Did you read any of my previous post? Where the hell is this coming from? I think the male 'incel' experience is a distinct one and a tragic one - and not one which should be belittled. You'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 04:26 PM
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I already said I would be happy to hear another reason. Of course I'm willing to accept any other motivation. Because you're dishonest. Because you hate incels. Seriously? I asked you why you thought I was being dishonest, and you've yet to give me an answer. Why do you think I 'hate' incels? Why do accuse practically everyone you debate with on this topic of hating incels before they have given any indication of doing so? Just debate with me reasonably without pointing fingers and crying bias. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 04:08 PM
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Are you agreeing with me that the definition is intentionally excluding women? That is the reason I believe, but if you have an alternative then I would like to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:10 PM
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Oh? How do you think I am being dishonest? Other than an evil conspiracy of misogynist virgins, can you think of any other reasons that could motivate incels to draw the line where we do? I personally think it's a very human, and understandable reason. I know you like to assume people have a bias or dislike against incels, but that's really not what's going on here, at least with me. I mean incels are - barring some exceptions which may not even exist - hetero men who have had difficulty with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:34 AM
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Bro, you seem to do this a lot. I don't dislike incels whatsoever. If we're using your definition of the word - I am an incel. You're right, I have no authority to dictate what the word should mean, and I'm not trying to. Nor am I trying to discredit the experiences of those who describe themselves as 'incel'. I am simply trying to clarify what it means, and why there are inconsistencies in its application. Because it seems to me it's definition is arbitrary - with the intention to exclude women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:08 AM
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If it's not a misnomer then it should mean involuntarily celibate - and you're telling me it doesn't. I'm not trying to see it as a scientific term, I am simply assuming the words should follow their actual definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:55 AM
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Ah yeah. I guess I was ignorant to think that the term 'involuntarily celibate' would actually mean someone who was...well...involuntarily celibate. But if it's just a misnomer for a term that has a more arbitrary meaning, that's cool, I can get behind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:45 AM
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I agree, it is pointless. Though if you're wanting it to be more, I suggest not needlessly insulting people - doesn't exactly pave the way for good debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:21 AM
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But none of my posts even mentioned analogies. It's literally people saying 'being incel is this therefore women cannot be incel' and then saying 'oh wait it also involves this but women still can't be incel for some reason'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 09:06 AM
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Because the are both holding out. Period. The issue I am taking is with the use of the word incel. Both of those descriptions you gave do not describe an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 09:03 AM
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I have made moves. When I say play my cards I mean to completely optimise my chances in every feasible way. I have asked girls out, I dress well, I worked out, I improve on my social skills. But I could have done more and I refused to take paths on moral grounds and due to my own principles. For that reason I am not incel. As long as there are options to take which I do not take I am not incel, and I've yet to meet a single self-describing incel who has tried every option. To be honest I've yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 02:03 AM
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Idk man, I'm a disabled/malformed virgin who has never shared a mutual attraction with anyone and I would never refer to myself as an 'incel' - because I am capable of getting laid if I play my cards right, as are most, if not all "incels". I chose not to 'play my cards' for various reasons - the biggest reason being that I simply do not want to, and that alone is a choice that I am making which means I am not incel. I think that applies to the vast majority of 'incels'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:39 AM
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Are we just having incel mean whatever the hell we want it to now? In = involuntary. Your celibacy is decidedly not that, by your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 09:40 PM
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The goal posts about this shit get changed all the time. First women can't be incel simply due to the fact that they can get fucked - implying being 'incel' is just about sex. Then when you ask why male incels don't just lower their standards/fuck a prostitute they unanimously bring up the "it's not real/intimate if they're just being paid to sleep with you" which then makes being an incel more than just sex and involves warm and fuzzy feelings. Yet they'll still discount women's experiences for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:32 PM
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every red piller would be fine with Reddit banning the subreddit I really highly doubt that. Enough of them had a hissy fit over FPH
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 12:07 PM
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You cuddle and caress your male friends? Not judging, just clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:07 PM
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Mostly the extent at which men and women differ on a behavioural level. Since this whole 'gender is socially constructed' trend has been gathering steam, a lot of feminists believe that men and women are pretty much identical and are just socially conditioned to want certain things/behave in certain ways. I do want to advocate for men and women to have equal opportunities - and that includes addressing various social stigmas, such as women working in certain fields. But I do think men and women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 06:44 AM
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I prefer to speak in as clear a terms as possible when I talk to someone, and identifying myself as a 'feminist' no longer conveys the mindset people will then associate with me. So it's just confusing matters when I do so. I used to be a full on feminist, and I was happy to call myself one. But nowadays my view on the differences between men and women will put me at odds with practically all self-identifying feminists - extremists or not. So it feels wrong to associate myself with a group that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:29 PM
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No worries, I highly recommend watching CinemaSin's video about it where they go through all the flaws. I just watched it again after making my post, there was way more stuff that just flat out doesn't make any sense than I remembered lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 01:19 PM
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Well yeah she did want to see other films. Films which had a cast which she deemed attractive. I'll say again that she has been my friend for 6 years. I know her. It may have been a slight jump to a conclusion at the time, but over the years she has made enough 'offhand remarks' which as established that she has a "I disregard things about people based on their looks" kind of attitude. So I was on the money. I didn't even think about it that much. The thought process happened in like 1/3 of a se…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 06:37 AM
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I don't think you're getting this. This had nothing to do with spending time with me. We were in the same group of friends, we go to films together, as a group, all the time, still do. She just turned down going to see these films, for those genuine reasons lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 06:06 AM
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Lol except it wasn't to go to the movies with me, both times. I've been friends with her for 6 years. I know her. She's just weirdly shallow and thinks it's endearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 06:00 AM
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[Warning: spoilers for shitty film ahead] The twist that Mark Ruffalo's character was part of the whole magic shit all along is complete BS. He would play up the façade that he wanted to take the four horsemen down/didn't know what was going on - even when no-one else was around and there would be absolutely no reason for him to do so, other than to fool the audience watching the film - which is just a flat out narrative cheat. He would appear visibly stressed and frustrated when it was of no be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:12 PM
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I know! It was weird. And she was gorgeous, smart, funny, the whole package. But shallow to the point that it was childish. Instant turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:03 PM
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One obscure thing which made me irreversibly 'nope' out of finding a girl attractive faster than anything else was when she turned down going to see Wreck it Ralph in the cinema "because the characters are ugly." First of all, it's an animated film and the characters aren't even really 'ugly'. Second of all, even if they were ugly it's weirdly shallow to dismiss a film on that basis. The idea of someone not regarding the stories of 'ugly' people - fictitious, animated or otherwise - as having an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:55 PM
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I think a surprisingly large percentage of women (we're talking 90%-ish) have some kind of defined, minimum requirement for height - whether it is something they're conscious of or not. And I think it's at least 'taller than me'. That being said if a suave, confident and attractive short guy comes into the picture, then those requirements can be swayed, but it takes a lot more work. I remember seeing this experiment on /r/short and I couldn't quite believe it. Status, wealth, career all seemed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 04:28 PM
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Yeah, is this after /u/fruitenvrac's post about magnanimity? Because a lot of RPers disagreed with her on that interpretation of what makes a dude alpha (though personally I could definitely see it as an alpha trait).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:40 AM
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I feel like it's a misnomer to refer to the issue as an abbreviation of 'involuntarily celibate' then. Gives the impression that it's solely about sex. But I think /u/UberBluntCruising has a point on why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:58 PM
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Are you...red pill? That doesn't sound like a very RP conclusion - just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:24 PM
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Yeah there aren't many central dwarf characters, so I would be interested in looking into it. Interesting casting choice in Linda Hunt for the role, I wonder why that was - not sure how I feel about it lol. But she much have done a decent job if she won the academy award for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:56 PM
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No I haven't. I'd never even heard of it haha Looking it up, sounds interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:41 PM
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Well 'dwarfism' is an umbrella term for over 200 different medical conditions, so you may well have heard that about certain forms, as many forms are indeed very debilitating and and severely shorten life expectancies - but I would say the most common forms (accounting for about 80% of dwarfs combined) are not that debilitating and fairly easy to live with - but I do say that cautiously, I only have personal experience with my condition so I can only really speak for that. Achondroplasia does gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:35 PM
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That's a fair enough concern to have. Achondroplasia (the condition I have, and by far the most common form of dwarfism) has a 50% chance of being passed down to children from a mixed dwarf/tall couple. It's not a very debilitating condition, and personally I have no qualms about having children with dwarfism, but I understand completely if people feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:02 PM
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It's been my experience in the world of strangers. If you want to completely disregard it that's up to you but then you won't really understand why women do what they do if you don't actually ask them. I'm not disregarding it, I believe what you say is true (well, to some extent - I don't believe women outright avoid all men in the situations I describe because that would be really bizarre). I'm just saying it does not explain the situation I am describing. I have said that women act in a way th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:25 AM
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But it's not. That's just not been my experience. Maybe I should clarify the kind of environment I'm talking about - I'm not talking about places or situations where people tend to hit on each other. I'm taking about pubs in the afternoon, cinemas, someone's flat, with groups of friends meeting other friends, often they're with their partners. Some people might not know each-other, but nobody is a complete stranger. It's subdued with everyone just wanting to have a nice chat. I have never seen w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:14 AM
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It's something I find in both women I know and don't know. I think there's something else at play, otherwise they would act this way with other men the don't find attractive - but they don't. They will be more reserved around them, but not try to avoid them outright like they do with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:02 AM
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I am aware of the cautiousness young women have about not giving misleading signals to guys, but the reason I mention that segment (and any of the behaviours in my post) is because it's a way they act specifically with me, and not to the same extent with anyone else. I know they're still cautious around other guys, but their body language is much more prominent with me. And I would also say different in nature. I mean, not wanting to simply be seen in public with me? I think there's something el…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 09:35 AM
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Haha, dude, this post was a result of me being bored as hell last night. Just writing this up made me have to think about it more than I've ever bothered to think about it. I appreciate your concern, but this is nothing which occupies my mind. I associate people who post here on a regular basis with over-analysing for the sake of nothing, so I thought it would be interesting to throw it out there to such people. I see such things as pointless as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 09:13 AM
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Nowadays when I come across girls who do that I don't play along, and usually they lose interest in me pretty quickly. I'm fine with that. I prefer to spend time with girls who actually want to get to know me and don't just want to use me as a means to get to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:52 AM
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The fact that it's only something they do when other people are around. When it's just us, girls have varied from being pretty lukewarm towards me, to blatantly ignoring me directly addressing them (the latter example being this one chick and holy hell, she was a two-faced biiitch). When right before-hand they're ruffling my hair/hugging me and tell me how god-damn adorable I am in a baby voice. They just switch off all interest in me when no-one else is around. Back in HS I was pretty naive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:12 AM
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I would say the most prominent would be the latter two examples I gave, of women in their mid 30s and over being weirdly friendly and younger women being faux affectionate with me in front of other people. They are pretty prevalent. But overall it's hard to give any specific percentage, as people often act in varying degrees of what I describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:55 AM
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So would you say younger women tend to be uncomfortable around children?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:42 AM
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My body is fabulous idk what you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:40 AM
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I could exploit the novelty/gimmick factor, and it would probably be successful at some point, but that is just an aspect which does not appeal to me whatsoever, so it's not something I have pursued. I don't want to be someone's 'fascination fuck' as the disabled community puts it. I have had a lot of girls get excited and tell me "you're just like Tyrion!" (I am also blond with a British accent, so that probably contributes). And lot of girls love the novelty factor and feel they can be complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 11:50 PM
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I find the women who approach me like that to be pretty endearing in all honestly, unless they are particularly inconsiderate and probe-ish. They are almost always good natured and polite. It's just nice. It's good to hear that there doesn't seem to be much else to it other than innocuous curiosity and good intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 11:32 PM
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Hah idk man, I personally perceive that attention as women feeling broody and sort of wanting to dote on me like a child. Not exactly the most fertile soil for some hot n'heavy MILF action...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 11:28 PM
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Lots of people are socially inept. It's pretty common. Not everyone is a body language expert (especially when alcohol is consumed). I thought this would be apparent on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:30 PM
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Are you really saying there aren't a considerable number of guys who are naive/oblivious enough to not know the difference? Huge numbers of guys can't tell when a girl is interested in them - it's one of the most recurring queries that pops up in places like askmen. Humans are good when it comes to body language, as a species, but within that species there are ones who are considerably better than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:04 PM
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As a generalisation it most definitely is true. Women care waaaaay more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:20 PM
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I don't really get how this is sexist/misandrist at all. How this is any different from a dude sticking his dick in crazy or getting with a woman who acts like a bitch and complaining about the consequences which come with that? If you ignore red flags and get shit for it, yeah some of that is your fault. I don't see the association with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 04:54 PM
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Even outside of the manosphere (occasionally lurking on here is the most interaction with pill-related stuff in general) it's so overused. Maybe it's because I mostly browse reddit though - which is pretty strongly anti-SJW as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:02 PM
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I've honestly rarely seen genuine examples of white knighting - like a dude defending a woman who was being unreasonable and it's obvious it's just because she's a woman. I've seen it maybe...5 times? Ever? I swear the term is overused to hell and has come to mean "defending a woman for any reason whatsoever".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 09:25 PM
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link
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 06:48 PM
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Don't be sad. Damn, I wish I was half as reflective, curious and articulate as you are when I was 15. You bring up a very valid point. Maybe this pertains more to the red pill women subreddit, but it often advocates for 'happiness' explicitly - but when I look at it, I do not see happiness. I can't help but question how people ended up feeling this was the lens through which they should now see life. I mean, if people had this same 'thinking the worst of people' cautious approach to friends, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:56 AM
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but please tell me how meaningful it is when less than 2% of a group feels this way. Well first of all, that premise is false. We're talking about a thread on a subreddit here, not a poll or anything to that effect. Inactive subscribers, lurker subscribers, subscribers who just don't vote - all these factors fudge the numbers on any subreddit in a big way - the number in the sidebar is decidedly not the number of people who weighted their opinion in on that specific thread. It would be more mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:08 AM
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What are you talking about? This is specifically the example that we're talking about from the OP "Treating women badly -- because they deserve it." When a disproportionate number of people sharing any viewpoint is found in a certain group it's not meaningless data. Please don't stuff me with straw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 01:14 AM
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Which amounts to a notably disproportionate number of people with misogynistic viewpoints in a relatively small group. That's not meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:41 PM
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You really find that argument odd? It's something stated by women all the time, both on here and everywhere else. Women rely on far more factors (demeanour, voice, etc.) to determine the attractiveness of men - and it's not uncommon at all for those non-visual factors to trump the visual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:34 PM
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April Fools day? Isn't that like every day in Canada? Fuck Canada #CanadaHate
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 11:26 PM
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I don't need to be to know that 278 is considerably larger than 1. It's one thing to say that all RPers think that way, but it's a fair enough statement to make that at least a large minority think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 03:32 PM
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[Claims post up-voted 278 times and gilded is just the reflection of one man and in no way a reflection of those who read TRP] [Proceeds to make sweeping generalisations of TBP]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 11:38 PM
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I do think the question of why is what matters, and if that why can be answered pretty quickly, then it turns the man's virginity into a non-issue, if the women is okay with the answer. I find it weird how some of the RPers I've talked to just outright deny the existence of sociable, pleasant men - men who can attract women as they currently are - who can be virgins from 25 onwards. I already know a couple, and feel like I will become one myself. They also deny the existence of women who would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 11:12 AM
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Well...it technically is a solution if you want to lose your virginity. Sure, but that was never the subject of this thread. This is addressing whether it is beneficial/good for male improvement- in which case there are more factors to take into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:46 PM
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Well no-ones keeping anyone from doing anything. All I was saying is that there is something to lose by taking that option. I wasn't saying it's an option which shouldn't be taken, or that people should withold from taking it. As a 22yo virgin myself I might consider it in a few years if I still haven't lost my v-card. But I wouldn't call it a 'solution' by any means, though it can give some long-term benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:36 PM
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Yes I agree with you (well mostly, I still think at 25 there's a likely chance of meeting a woman who is cool with it). It's about the trade-off. There is something to lose (becoming more repellent to women) but it can be a price that is reasonable to pay, given the circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:10 PM
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you have absolutely nothing to lose by fucking a prostitute as women wouldn't have had sex with you anyway. As long as there are women willing to sleep with a 25yo virgins (which there obviously are. It's ridiculous to say no women exist who fit that description) then there is something to lose by choosing the more repellent option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:14 PM
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Women won't fuck you if you're a virgin. Quite a few will Women also consider not having had sex to be a deal breaker. So really there is nothing to lose. All I am doing is pointing out that there is something to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 08:06 PM
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If you make it into adulthood having only had sex with prostitutes people can make the same judgement, but women can find that even more repellent than virginity. If your choice is to be a virgin or to have sex with a prostitute, the former is more appealing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:57 PM
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I think being a virgin is a deal breaker for far less women than having slept with a prostitute is. Just from that recent thread on this sub it seems that women are more likely to be okay with a virgin than a guy who has slept with 6+ women, which I found really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:47 PM
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Face-wise I would say I am fairly attractive. I've been told quite a few times how 'handsome' 'cute' or 'good-looking' I am by women, unprompted. But due to having a conventionally unattractive body and the stigma of dating someone like me, being good looking has meant jack-shit, in my experience. In less extreme cases I can see good looks mattering a whole lot, with the halo effect smoothing over any minor short-comings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 07:14 PM
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Okay, can you give me an example of a widespread belief of something related to technology advancement being 'different this time'? Yes, jobs will be created, my point is that technology improves faster than biology - to the point that more than cancels out job creation in the long run. There's no jobs we can create which can't conceivably be done by automation, both physically and mentally - not on a large scale. Low skilled jobs are some of the first on the chopping block, and while new jobs w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 03:06 AM
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But I've heard the argument that things are different this time. I've heard that argument about a lot of different things. Never pans out. Okay you've heard "it's going to be different this time" about a lot of different things - but have you heard it specifically pertaining to technological advancement in the future? With it being wrong? Because it doesn't really matter about those 'different things'. Whenever we're wrong about technology it's often us underestimating how much it will advance. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:50 AM
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Didn't watch, so I'm basing this on your comment. Ok, well I'm just going to reference it again, because the video does address how this oncoming technological revolution is a different matter from past industrial revolution. "because it has always been this way" is not always a logical way to speculate the future - especially when technology is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:22 AM
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I'm not sure if this is a reliable source but CGP Grey's vid 'Humans Need not Apply' convinced me that 'automation creating more jobs' is a bit of a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:33 AM
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This OP reminds me of a line in the recent film Spotlight, where a victim of child abuse within the catholic church is talking to the Boston Globe about other victims and where they are now, and they bring up how many of the other victims have since committed suicide or have become drug addicts, after which he concludes "that's why we call ourselves survivors". I mean child abuse is a whole other ball game, but I thought it was an interesting point. Personally I find 'survivor' fairly jarring to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:40 PM
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So why are you bringing it up? You're telling me my definition is incorrect but only giving me another definition of what an alpha is not. Give me a definition of an alpha that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 09:11 PM
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Well girlish men like Justin Bieber still fits your definition of having power over the market, even if it is primarily via money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:24 PM
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I'm going by the definition of alpha = successful at fucking lots of 'high value' women. I realise there may be more nuanced definitions, but that's the one I go by and high intellect is not necessary and could even be detrimental to fulfil such criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:37 PM
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I don't think I am. I think alpha guys often don't have high intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:26 PM
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I don't really think high intellect = alpha, or contributes to being alpha in any meaningful way
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 07:16 PM
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if men weren't afraid of being seen gay, they wouldn't avoid male platonic intimacy. This right here. There could be a social climate in which every single action between same sex people could be assumed to be homosexual, but if homophobia weren't a thing, there would be absolutely no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 07:07 PM
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What kind of disability are you talking about? Whichever disability you want to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 11:16 AM
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I attract are even crazier than me, most have personality disorder symptoms, some have full on diagnosed BPD. Oh man, I like to think that - as a result of being disabled - I am more open-minded than most when it comes to dating people with disabilities, and I think that is true, especially when it comes to physical disabilities. But BPD? I cannot fucking deal with that whatsoever. As soon as I find out someone has it, I immediately go 'ABORT' and try and get out of that situation - not even in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 11:08 AM
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I'm not sure if this technically qualifies as a disability, but I recently started working with a guy who has dwarfism. Yes that is a disability. The same disability I have, actually (more or less, depending on what form he has). But you're right, able-bodied people have a tendency to think some situations are hopeless situations when they're really, really not and are actually quite manageable. It's amazing how people can adapt - both people who are disabled and those they are acquainted with. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 10:49 AM
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Do the chances not change depending on the type/severity of disability? If so, in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 01:05 AM
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Same question I posed to /u/UA_Hammer, If women will reject you out of hand as a disabled man, would you say there is any point in pursuing any kind of (straight) relationship? Or is it a lost cause?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 12:43 AM
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So do you think men have absolutely zero chance? Or a chance so small it is not worth acting upon? You definitely see disabled guys dating women, it's not unheard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 12:42 AM
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I don't think so. Every time I see people complaining about others misusing the word misogyny ("It means hatred of women!") I feel like the only time these people would actually be satisfied is if the word is applied to some dude who goes around murdering women explicitly saying "I most definitely I hate women, and you can quote me on that" whilst not being intoxicated in anyway. To them, only extremely explicit, unambiguous acts of violence and hatred towards women counts as misogyny. And that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 11:03 PM
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Haha I'd love to see you try and 'sit back' on jobseekers allowance for 2 weeks in the UK. They are extremely stringent. If you aren't constantly looking for jobs, going in to the job centre every week for a check-up, pursuing offers and saying yes to the first job you get - no money for you. And the fact that benefit fraud investigation costs more money than it ever manages to gain just goes to show how small of a problem it is. The public love to see it as an issue (and therefore love benefit …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:54 PM
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You're just jelly that you'll never get with someone as finger-licking tasty as the Big McIntyre. Damn he's so friggin hot. Just look at that face. DAMN.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:45 AM
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No, I wouldn't. I guess that's one of the perks of having dwarfism - it's a great filter for shallow women. I never needed some online community to tell me just how many women are shallow, because it became apparent very quickly. I pretty much fall heavily for any girl who genuinely treats me as an equal - and so far that's happened with only two women in my life. Because they were the only ones who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 01:43 PM
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Yes, like I said I do understand that. I wasn't really disagreeing with you. Just elaborating on what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:15 AM
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I would say most people wouldn't call you short (I mean, if you went onto /r/short and said you were short, you would probably be virtually lynched. Being 5'7'' is seen in an equally 'not short' light). Yes you are technically below average height and technically short, but 5'11'' guys are technically tall and they still get rejected for being short sometimes. Society is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:35 AM
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I'm not surprised. I am aware just how strict and widespread women's height requirements can be. Generally if you're below 5'10'' you're going to be screwed to some extent (because you can pretend you're 6'0'' from about 5'10'' as most 5'10''- 5'11'' guys seem to). Despite what this study says, I've definitely found taller women to be more into dating shorter dudes. The don't have their sense of femininity depending on them being petite and small, as they're used to being taller than some guys a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 01:08 AM
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Thank you. Your tears will pour from a great height onto my 4-feet-off-the-ground head
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:42 AM
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Are you male or female? (Just wondering if my response of 'cry me a fucking river' is appropriate...)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:31 AM
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Male/22 Apparently one 30yo dude with a fetish. Doesn't make me feel that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 07:58 PM
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Don't want to contribute anything useful, just want to profess my love for Charlie Brooker. And the character of Philomena Cunk. This show is always one of the TV highlights in the new year.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 02:58 AM
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I think it's a fair statement to make. To keep thinking and maintaining the belief that "he's the right one for her" and she just doesn't realise it. That's he is so wonderful and kind for doing things for her. I've been that guy before (god have mercy on me) and during that time I definitely thought narcissistic things like "look at me, I'm so considerate", "I really am better than all these other guys, if only she cared to see that". I would call that a form of narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 11:55 AM
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Dwarfism is going on with my body. Personally, I think I look pretty damn good, both body and face-wise, but social norms dictate otherwise. The prospect of me being dating material is laughable to most, so that at least makes me below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:55 PM
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Oh man, I find rating myself quite tricky. Face-wise I would say I'm pretty good-looking, a 7 maybe? Body-wise I have no idea, could be a 1-2, could be 6+ to a certain few people. Effectively I would say I even out around 4 or something. I'm 22 years old. How about you OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 04:28 PM
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Ugly girl: Flattered. I would try and be as considerate as I could, especially if she dared to tell me her feelings, but ultimately I would politely decline. I would also wonder if she was desperate and was just trying to see if I was desperate enough too, considering the fact that I am low pickings myself. However, the temptation to reciprocate - just to know what it was like to be with someone - would be still there. Average girl: I would be slightly suspicious. Did she just like me for the no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 03:52 PM
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That's fine, I wasn't looking for advice - just answering your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:21 PM
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Yeah, maybe. I hope so. I used to not care (when I was in my early teens), though that was due to a lack of social awareness and lack of observational skills. I miss that, because happiness came so easily to me back then. Nowadays I'm constantly aware of how I come across to people and constantly trying to overcome that. Ignorance truly is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 12:13 PM
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For a while I suspected I was asexual. Now I've come to the conclusion that I'm not - but also wish that I was. Not having to care about sex would bring me so much peace. I don't even think about sex that much. I suspect I have a very low sex drive for a guy in his early twenties, but even then I care way too much about what people think about me, social acceptance and so on. Being someone with dwarfism, caring about social acceptance even a little bit brings about a constant level of anxiety, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:46 AM
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Well for women, their facial aesthetics matter so much more in terms of attraction than for men. Women can be convinced by a man's demeanour, his humour, his good nature, his confidence and his status, money etc. and end up developing an attraction to a man even if his looks aren't that great. For women -if they're not good-looking - are at a significant disadvantage and are limited in how they can compensate (in a man's eyes anyway). So ugly men are better suited to focusing on those other trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 02:05 AM
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As /u/GaiusScaevolus said, I think height is the physical trait comparable in social importance to a woman's facial looks. I don't know if I'd say they are perfect equivalents, but definitely comparable. Height for men means status, masculinity, dominance, leadership etc. Whether they actually translate into that is doubtful, but people still associate those things with male height in the same way people associate femininity with a pretty female face. I guess it's the halo effect. Facially I'm p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 12:38 AM
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Is it though? Aside from Donna (who is awesome and the best companion ever haters to the left) didn't most companions develop romantic/sexual feelings towards him? I've only seen the reboot series so maybe there are more examples earlier on but idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 02:40 AM
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As a guy, when I hear that a man at 23yo or older is still a virgin then I will find that curious, though as others have said a lack of relationships is more telling imo. I'm a 22yo kissless virgin who has never had a relationship, and I seem to have a clean bill of social competence from the people who know me (though I know I am defected, as in, literally physically malformed so that clears up that mystery). I also know a couple of guys my age who are virgins and perfectly great, good-looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 02:35 AM
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I've definitely found his experience to be true. Many short women go for tall guys (and express this themselves). I don't see how that goes against common sense either, or why that matters - trying to incorporate 'common sense' into what causes attraction is a futile pursuit. My own take on this is that short women become so used to being small that when they meet shorter guys it bothers them more than most. I've found that taller women are more open to the possibility of dating shorter guys (I …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 11:28 PM
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If that kind of irrefutable evidence is what it takes for you to be convinced of one's mindset - then why do you believe any other form of outlook/opinion/bigotry? Why is misogyny the one you focus on? Someone being a communist, someone being misandrist, someone not being a dog person - someone liking coldplay - why believe any of that if it takes mind reading technology to be convinced? You could make the very same point about all of these examples, "well you can't prove that they definitely, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:50 PM
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I specifically meant exposed breasts in public spaces - probably should have added the 'public spaces' bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:47 PM
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Not really what I was saying but I guess that works? To clarify I would say normalisation =/= de-sexy...ing(??) Features we see everyday of the opposite gender contribute to our sexual attraction to someone. Heck, the opposite example to this being a man's chest. We recently had a thread just about men's physiques and how evident it was that women can be thoroughly sexually turned on by a man's body, citing things like forearms, chest etc. Topless equality doesn't mean that we'd be socialised to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:19 PM
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Yeah I agree with your comment (more or less) just kidding around. I just feel like you were exaggerating what topless equality would be, when what it would really be is that violating each other's space would still not be okay (aka, going up to a woman and touching her chest) but less significance and sexuality being associated with breasts (declaring boobs a non-sexual organ like you said). I honestly can't think of many times were touching/grabbing a guy's chest is a regular thing to do - so …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 10:01 PM
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My primary conclusion on this issue is that Americans are weird when it comes to nudity... On a serious note though, I think topless equality would help - maybe not necessarily solve anything but normalise and de-stigmatise exposed female breasts a bit more. Women are already able to go around topless in situations where men are typically topless in a lot of European countries (and others outside of Europe I don't know specifically) and yeah, when you're in such a culture it takes away the "holy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:39 PM
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Topless equality would mean I could go up to a women, touch her chest and it would be fine. Idk what kind of societal norms you're used to but I'd be weirded the fuck out if a random woman came up to me and touched my chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:37 PM
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Yeah I had the same reaction. Quite a leap without showing any working there...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 09:36 PM
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/r/forearmporn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 01:54 PM
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I already said self-awareness probably wasn't the right word for what I meant. You're arguing against something I never suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 11:06 PM
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I'm talking about on a smaller, more immediate scale. Not their position/goals/motivations in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 05:16 PM
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Just going off of my experience, that has been the case. I think it's fair to say women on average tend to be more socially adept than men, and I think self-awareness is a very big part of that. I'm talking about being diplomatic and acting pre-emptively to avoid negative situations (or to purposely cause negative situations if they so wish). Maybe self-awareness isn't the right word for it. But I encounter a lot more men who lack self-awareness (and I mean self-awareness in this case) than wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:17 AM
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Well I have asked out a small number of women, knowing that they at least liked me and enjoyed being around me. Putting them on the spot, most of them responded positively and we went on first dates. That was when the social consequences of dating me became apparent to them and they were clearly uncomfortable with it. I've never gotten past a first date. A couple of them just told me they 'didn't see me in that way' or something similar, but I knew there was something else going on, just from ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:04 AM
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I am of the opinion women are different but equal. I think women are (generally, obviously) a lot more self-aware and socially intelligent than men. I don't have any relationship experience, so my conclusions have only been drawn from family members and friends, so there's a lot about women where the jury is still out for me, but I have found women to be frustrating when I have tried to dip my toe into non-platonic waters. Disclaimer that everything that follows is extremely generalised. Reputat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:35 PM
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Everyone likes to consider murdering/hurting someone they hate or jumping in front of traffic. I don't think that means anything significant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:19 PM
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I was surprised until I clicked on the video and saw that it was british. That explains it. The dating culture in the UK is very different from the US. For a good insight you can watch this popular video of Emma Watson talking about the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtqfWK0dkq0 As a british male I would say this was accurate as far as I am able to tell. Some women have posted here saying the number of times they were approached went from frequent to 0 after moving country (specific…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 08:23 PM
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On an anecdotal basis, I most definitely think that. The most ambitious people I know are all women. This probably has more to do with my age group though, possibly even class (should probably mention that I'm a brit at this point). In their yearly 20s, I find guys to be a bit more scatter-brained and 'going with the flow' than women of the same age. I can't name a single guy my age who has a sure plan for their future (they may have general outline, but nothing with any certainty about it) yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 11:01 PM
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I want to find someone who actually cares about who I am as a person, not just what I look like. I think this is the fundamental viewpoint that is hindering you; looks matter whether you like it or not. If you look like you are healthy and take care of yourself, then you'll get more positive attention. Do you feel reluctant to change any aspect of yourself - physical or personality-wise? And when I say change, I mean notice flaws or issues and trying to tackle them. It's important not to get hun…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:05 AM
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I've never really lifted in my life. I'm not very tall or athletic. I'm not resistant to lifting weights, but I don't want to have to change who I am in order to attract a woman and get laid. I'll never understand how people equate 'becoming physically fit' = 'fundamentally changing who you are'. Be the best version of yourself you can be. That tends to involve physical fitness. You don't have to get ripped. My other concern is that a few of your statements sounds like a parody of the Nice GuyTM…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:42 PM
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I think it's just another one of those 'rules' or 'truths' where some people function and behave in line with it, but many others don't. I've had female friends mention 'creeps' that have bothered them or weirded them out in various situations - only to find out that most of said creeps are conventionally attractive guys (with said female friends often admitting they are good-looking as well). It usually does come down to behaviour above all else, such as: being overly forward, asking invasive q…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 12:46 AM
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I would say personality matters (specifically extroversion/introversion/outgoing/withdrawn etc.) in that it dictates what women like to do and how they spend their time - determining how often they are in situations to be asked out. I wouldn't say this is a matter of guys seeing quiet women and thinking 'ew no' but more a matter of a guy not seeing quiet women as often due to the fact that quiet women tend to stay out of such social situations in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 12:31 AM
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The idea that men and women can't be friends is the most baffling 'truth' that I've heard from RP-oriented people. I've had close female friends since I was 13 and there have never been any issues of unrequited love on either sides. I just meet women who I don't see in a romantic light, and they (by default) don't see me in that way either. I get on with them just as well as my male friends, if not better. My closest friend is a girl I've known for 10 years, and the idea of her 'taking advantage…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 10:04 PM
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Sleep in till about 11am feeling perfectly refreshed. Make some tea and scrambled eggs on toast for the both of us Lounge on the sofa for a bit, maybe play some video games. Meet up with some friends. Have lunch in the nice cafe nearby. Meet up with SO in the afternoon, maybe go to a pub and have a couple of drinks. Go home, order some sushi. Watch a film/TV and cuddle on the sofa
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 01:01 AM
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No I wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 12:15 PM
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I've yet to encounter a human being irl who actually expects trigger warnings - is this something you've experienced irl enough to associate it with adult women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:58 PM
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If RP wants to make strenuous comparisons to children simply to have the antagonistic buzzword "children" associated with women - and are happy to admit that - then I'm not too fussed. I think it's a bit pointless, but knock yourself out. I see this "we don't mean it like that" strategy on a par with the school bully who pulls his fist at the last second, saying mockingly "why did you flinch? I didn't punch you!" "Women are allowed to make excuses in current society and exploit this" is a consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:36 PM
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I think the key distinction here is the generalisation of the entire population rather than assigning untrustworthiness to only women. People can fuck you over but if you go around repeatedly saying "Black people can fuck you over" - yeah, people will probably start thinking you're racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 08:02 PM
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I wasn't really thinking of people who are unintentionally isolated, or isolated against their will - that would be exceedingly rare. I was more thinking about people who are around people just as much as anyone else and actively try to have a relationship, yet have never managed to have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 01:16 PM
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If being Forever Alone means being alone without intentionally isolating yourself, I think I've only ever encountered 1 or 2 truely FA people, both irl and online. People on FA overwhelmingly seem to live very secluded lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 12:51 PM
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