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Spending less time online helps. As hard as it might sound, having female friends or a girlfriend helps, if you can swing it. There's a lot of toxic discourse by women about men and by men about women online, but people tend to be a lot less toxic IRL.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 05:12 AM
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I think it would be more productive to focus on changing cultural norms so that fewer circumcisions occur in the future.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 04:43 PM
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Kind of crazy to think of all the programs that were initiated and expanded after 2009 to counter perceived disadvantages faced by women, when discrimination (in hiring, at least) as a whole had reversed sign by that point. Crazy to think that for as long as I've had to apply to things (schools, internships, fellowships, jobs), there has actually been a bias against me as a male. It's not novel to say this anymore but this was obvious to me all the way back in 2010, when it was generally seen as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 04:31 AM
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I've sensed that as this community has formed it's own "dogma" over the past few years, posters here do in fact have a tendency to call out any critique of that dogma as hate. I feel like I used to debate and discuss things here. Now it feels like there's a force towards a narrow range of opinions, many of which I disagree with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 05:43 AM
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Actually he's one of the only people who's actually doing anything. He literally opened an office in the federal government called the American Institute of Boys and Men, and they're one of the only organizations I know that actually studies men's issues in good faith, not from a feminist perspective. https://aibm.org/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 02:23 AM
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What a counterproductive attitude.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 02:19 AM
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I’m not Indian but I’ve become uncomfortable about the rampant anti-Indian racism online that seems to be getting worse over the past few years.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/08/25 12:04 AM
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Don't be the same as the woman you're talking about. Most women don't think like that.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/25 11:38 PM
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Barack Obama
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/25 05:13 AM
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I wonder if the dick pic guys get off on sending dick pics to women. Their goal isn’t to date the woman, just to get aroused by the act of sending a dick pic. If you have a small number of guys that send dick pics to every woman they match with—you could easily get to the point where almost every woman on these apps is receiving dick pics. New dick pic theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 04:33 AM
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I’m sorry that this happened to you. These women were obnoxious and clearly in the wrong. However, you can’t let events like these stop you from using public transportation. Stuff like this might be humiliating and as a society we should discourage this behavior. But it’s not healthy to allow events like this to affect your life so much. You did nothing wrong, and have no reason to be afraid or embarrassed. I expect most people around you were thinking about how obnoxious the young women were, n…
/r/MensRights30/07/25 05:51 PM
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I’ve definitely noticed a change in my 30s. In my 20s I always felt kind of desperate and didn’t expect anything to happen with women I was actually attracted to. In my 30s it just feels like my value is higher. Women show interest in me even before I show interest in them. I don’t have to try as hard to make something happen. It’s possible that some of this is perception—I’m much less anxious and insecure now than I was in my 20s. But the shift has been noticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:58 PM
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Maybe the largely female educational workforce should make a serious effort to improve young men’s performance in education and reading, then. Huge efforts were made to address gaps when women were behind. 30 years ago young women would surely be more likely to say that math and engineering acumen are masculine traits. This is the problem with feminism. That it indoctrinates women to the point where they are incapable of conceiving of the idea that men and boys might have problems caused by soci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 11:15 PM
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If Jon Snow had just had duty sex with Danaerys, King’s Landing would still be standing. Remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:05 PM
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I think Asian stereotypes are a good one. We tend to think eg Chinese or Indian people have certain traits, when in reality it tends to be the wealthiest Chinese or Indians who come here for work or school, so that skews the stereotypes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 08:22 PM
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I believe this was the reason that r/everydaymisandry was created.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 05:53 AM
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I’m going to go against the grain of the comments and agree with your partner. In times of war, the sacrifice of going to war is maybe greater than the sacrifice of carrying and giving birth to a child. But most of the time, we’re not in a war that requires mass conscription. During those times, pregnancy is a greater burden. So it balances out. I think this is one of those examples where gender roles just make sense. Biological men are incapable of bearing children and also naturally better sui…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 05:13 AM
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I assure you that there are things to live for outside of physical intimacy. The easiest way to receive affection (even though it’s platonic) is to help other people. Joining a community can also help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:19 PM
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Actually it will kill them. Lonely people die sooner than not lonely people. And before killing them, it will cause pain and sadness. That matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:51 AM
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Or just replace men with women. That’s the real comparison.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/06/25 09:06 PM
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Honestly I’m happy when I hear that women also hate dating apps because it means that this system that is horrible for most men actually has a chance of going away some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:47 PM
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Pedantic point but this seems like more of a cycle than a spiral because it swings between two extremes instead of amplifying one extreme over time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 09:25 PM
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As a man it's important to separate the general concept of being a "good man" from the concept of being a good partner for a specific person, which is the definition of "good man" discussed here. Intrinsic goodness is not the same as your instrumental value to a specific woman. The second definition defines a "good man" the same way you'd define a "good hammer".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 09:49 PM
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I think it stems from the historic cost of having sex as a woman. Sex leads to pregnancy, which leads to the burden of a new child. If you’re having sex casually just to enjoy it, you’re literally playing with (unborn) people’s lives. Seems selfish when viewed that way. Birth control upended that way of thinking. It’s Interesting, though. The REVERSE of what you said sounds more likely to me. BECAUSE the responsibility of potential childbirths was placed on women, men (who without that burden, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 08:14 PM
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Biden picked Kamala Harris as VP because she was a black woman and because people thought it would be offensive to choose a white candidate given all the uproar over George Floyd and the BLM movement. He did this knowing that he was almost 80 years old, that his VP pick would likely be his successor, but also that Kamala Harris was not electable and didn’t have the chops to be a good president (that was his view). And so when he started to deteriorate mentally, he was left with no good options. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:44 PM
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I think you’re pinning too much on feminists. But I think you’re right. When you’re always censoring yourself to avoid offending people, you can’t think clearly, you can’t find the truth. We always kind of knew this but kept up the woke politeness because we were still afraid of offending people. I think that behavior is going to die. I don’t like Trump. I think he’s disgustingly corrupt and he’ll probably tip authoritarian. But his election did shatter the woke filter for me. He’s doing things …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:33 PM
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That’s because 99% of men in a gym are wearing a baggy t shirt and basketball shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:31 PM
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I kind of wish women would stop working out in underwear-like garments. I know that I “shouldn’t” be paying attention. But if I’m in a certain mood, it can be really hard not to. And it kind of just makes me feel like a piece of shit perv. Why can’t women suppress their vanity just a little bit? Honestly, I think men should suppress their vanity in the gym, too. People used to think a guy was a douchebag if they caught him flexing in the mirror. Now at my gym, there’s a line of (usually young) g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:28 PM
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Why do you have to call it weird? Maybe it’s outside of your filter bubble. The idea that most women are bisexual has been around for a really long time. True or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:04 PM
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Now that you mention it…you’re right. I know exactly what feeling you’re talking about. I think it’s more repulsion when it’s a woman that I’m not interested in, because it’s almost like my mind has to make it clear that nope, I don’t want this. With gay guys it’s more like a twinge of fear, because my mind isn’t evaluating them as a potential partner, but I still realize that I have to extract myself from the situation. Sorry if this was a weird interaction, lol. But typing it out helped me und…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:47 PM
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Got it. So it’s a combination of indifference and revulsion. Women seem to be disgusted when men they don’t know state their sexual feelings directly. Weirdly, I don’t think gay guys are. And straight men aren’t disgusted when women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:37 PM
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Are you ignoring him because he said you were attractive? Or just because…you don’t feel like responding to a statement like that. I’m trying to figure out if you think the act of saying you’re attractive is repulsive, or if you’re just indifferent to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:19 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 06:50 PM
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I think there would be a lot more casual sex. Assuming everyone was gay.
/r/MensRights25/02/25 10:21 PM
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Not misogyny. Heterosexual people are attracted to features they associate with the opposite gender. Men are typically taller than women. Women are attracted to height. I really don’t believe that women are clamoring for these jobs. This is a fatuous take. This comes from patriarchy but not misogyny. Yes men were expected to be the providers and have the resources to support women. So under that cultural norm paying for dates makes sense. But it’s not done out of a sense of hatred or contempt to…
/r/MensRights12/01/25 06:48 PM
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Interesting. So it sounds like if society started to view more stereotypically masculine traits positively again, then you and undoubtedly lots of women like you would benefit, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 11:44 PM
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This sounds like a consequence of history. I can believe that the realm of sex, romance, and relationships has been built around pleasing women for a very long time. Feminism might have fixed imbalances in the professional sphere and the realm of political power, but women had no incentive to fix imbalances in the realm of sex, romance, and relationships. Ergo, it falls to us as LWMA's to fix this imbalance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 11:40 PM
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Not true. When worth is a function of how oppressed you are, women's oppression by men actually makes them superior.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 11:35 PM
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Thanks! Yes that’s a great example. The more typically masculine approach is seen as wrong while the more feminine approach is seen as right. I think a healthier, more balanced way to look at it would be something like “it’s good to support your partner by giving them what they want or need in a relationship.” With respect for each partner’s autonomy, individuality, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 07:07 PM
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Right, thinking about this more, “gynocentrism” seems to be the better term. Hmm…but you seem to be suggesting that it’s not gynocentrism. Instead it’s more of a…person of one sex will be valued if they show traits that are typical of the opposite sex. I feel like that kind of thinking was mainstream in the 90s and 00s. But more recently, for reasons you’ve mentioned (stigmatizing a person’s actual nature), it seems like feminists have been trying harder to embrace femininity and show it as posi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 06:57 PM
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🤮
/r/EverydayMisandry12/11/24 07:11 PM
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This must be incredibly traumatizing for you, having your breast size fetishized. I hope there is a therapist who can grasp the gravity of the deep emotional scars you clearly are carrying around for having almost D sized breasts. I pray that you can overcome the adversity that you have been facing, and that the next time you have to tell a tailor your breast size, that you respond that it is not the tailor’s business. Thank you for fighting the most horrendous class of abusers--men who want to …
/r/MensRights12/11/24 07:03 PM
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Still, his economic populist vision tends to be more gender neutral compared to the identity focused vision of the mainstream democrats from the past 10-20 years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 06:20 PM
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Men might also reciprocate in other ways. Like by listening to her emotional dumping. Not all behaviors have to be perfectly symmetric.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 03:47 AM
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None. He’s reacting to a “vibe” and the fact that Kamala is more popular among women because she’s a woman and because she really seems to care about the abortion issue.
/r/MensRights05/11/24 09:02 PM
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If you feel like Kamala is working against men’s welfare then protest against her actions and work to raise awareness about men’s issues. The problem with the men’s rights movement is that it largely exists in the shadows in anonymous, online social networks. Because of this, most of the public remains unaware of men’s issues and has a hard time accepting them as valid and mainstream. If Kamala inadvertently pushes men to advocate publicly for their interests, then Kamala will actually be doing …
/r/MensRights05/11/24 09:00 PM
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Horrible
/r/EverydayMisandry04/11/24 12:36 AM
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I’m waiting for my golden years to reach my sexual peak. People will admire my sexcapades in the old folks home. The gang bangs will be glorious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 06:10 PM
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Really? Who are you more attracted to? The awkward tech bro that works 60 hrs a week? Or the quasi-employed hipster dude that dresses cool and acts confident and charms the people that he speaks with? From my experience nobody is attracted to the awkward tech bro who works 60 hrs a week. At least they’re not attracted to his skills. The least dateable people I know have PhDs. The men I know who have the most sex are borderline unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:12 PM
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I think it’s more of an immediate, interpersonal kind of status. Sort of instinctual. As an example, Bill Gates, cerca 1990, theoretically had status. Society valued the idea of Bill Gates and his business success. But if you were in a room with him and he seemed weak, awkward, nerdy—like a guy that women wouldn’t want to have sex with—then you’d get this unconscious, lizard-brain feeling that your social status is higher than his. I think this is the status that men seek, whether they recognize…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 05:08 PM
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Maybe women care way too much about red pill douchebags.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:06 PM
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Romcoms and chick lit et al might be available to everyone but they represent men as cartoons and in general are not created in a style that will be appealing to men. Isn’t this exactly the point of the post—that entertainment that men love is forced to be recast in a way that is appealing to both men and to women? Entertainment that women love is not forced to be more inclusive to the opposite gender. Women didn’t like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, either. And yet these franchises were still …
/r/MensRights29/10/24 05:44 PM
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Penis envy.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 05:38 PM
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There used to be men’s spaces. Where I grew up there used to be plenty of bars where women weren’t allowed. Hell the YMCA used to be men’s only. Even Boy Scouts had to let women in. Male spaces used to exist, but have been degraded over the past 50 years in the name of inclusivity.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 05:37 PM
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Good question to ask the guys. Modern woman no question. But I would also probably end up bitter, alone, and childless at 40. Knowing myself. So basically I’d be in the same boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:39 PM
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I think it'll be a combination of all 3 unless we have a massive war that kills off something like ~10% of all men. I know that in countries like Russia or Poland where men are scarce for whatever reason, women tend to put a lot more effort into attracting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:19 PM
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Even if this were complete vaporware it would be progress. Cool to see Democrats taking the interests of men into account. Also, what a sneaky way to introduce recreational marijuana legalization! lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:22 PM
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Most men like sluts or have no problem with them from my experience. Also, most men don’t refer to women as “females” so I don’t think your defiant reference to men as “males” is landing the way you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:36 AM
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I think the problem with feminism is that it’s one sided. If you take it far enough, you’re obviously going to create a society that privileges women at the expense of men. So you might think that a men’s rights movement is needed to speak up for men and rebalance things. Maybe for a little while. But in the end, the most harmonious society will create norms that consider the interests of both genders simultaneously and take a holistic view on gender relations. A lot of ancient cultures have thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:07 AM
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This is great! We need more people to do public things like this. Also, thank you Mark for your book!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 03:54 AM
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It’s just a double standard. Sounds unfair to me and infantilizing to women if you ask me. Not saying it’s sacrificial to order extra ice cream, just saying that you learn, growing up, to not care too much about your well-being because it’s unmanly. And a reason it’s seen as unmanly in the grand scheme of things is because it prepares men to be willing to sacrifice themselves for others when needed. And what you’re describing about short-term thinking doesn’t sound like men I know. I think we mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:59 PM
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Some things to consider re: your workplace injury, health, and suicide comments. It’s common today to see men blamed for the inequalities that hurt men, but society blamed for the inequalities that hurt women. You’re essentially applying a right wing standard to men and a left wing standard to women, by default. Why do men not care about their well being? It could be because our society teaches them that they’re disposable. It’s unmanly to express excessive concern over one’s health or safety be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:51 AM
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It’s early days. I think we’ll start to see some of this soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:53 AM
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Chronic shortage of funding and teachers, sure. Still plenty of funding going into getting more girls into math and sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:47 AM
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The education system is created by people. We could change it to be more equitable for boys if we wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:43 AM
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I even wonder if the old system that involved corporal punishment might have been better for boys, at least relative to girls. Interesting that they seemed to get rid of it right around the time that they were trying to reform the system to help girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:48 PM
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Why do “incels” and the “manosphere” get so much coverage as “concerning trends” by the media…but people like this get no media attention whatsoever?
/r/EverydayMisandry12/09/24 08:30 PM
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Isn’t that the job of a project manager? To dominate the meek nerds into doing what the company wants?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 04:02 PM
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My Dad’s best friend just got married to a woman in her 60s. It was her first marriage. They seem pretty happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:40 PM
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I think in general every woman should have a little Pick Me in them, and every man should have a little White Knight in them. Insofar as those terms mean having empathy for the opposite sex and being willing to look out for their interests. People of the opposite sex are still humans after all. That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t have esteem for yourself and forget about your own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:14 PM
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All I can say is that I was a virgin far later into my life than is normal, and I felt immense shame because of it. I also went to great lengths to hide the fact that I was a virgin—eg whenever the topic of sex came up in a conversation, I’d try to subtly change the topic, deflect any questions that came my way, or quietly leave the group. So maybe the overt shaming didn’t happen very often, because I put a lot of effort into hiding my virgin status from other people. Regardless of where the sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:35 PM
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Hmm…you might actually be right in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:27 PM
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How does your comment in any way address the OP’s comment? All you did was shame and tease the OP for being single. You didn’t discuss what he said at all. Why even post? You just enjoy bullying people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:21 PM
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Men both have free will and are people easily led around by their dicks. No man should care at all about your “idea of a man”. A man is a human with a penis. Besides that he can be whatever he wants to be. “Man up and grow up” is such a sexist statement. Maybe you should be a real woman and start submissively pumping out babies for me, miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:17 PM
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A tip for you. If you want the OP and other readers here to actually consider your opinion, remove the first sentence of your post “This is such an insanely bad take that I genuinely suspect it’s rage bait.” Your thoughts are reasonable enough otherwise. But that first sentence makes you come off as close minded, not even willing to consider the OP’s POV. Immediately shuts off all willingness by someone on the other side to listen to what you have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:12 PM
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This is a great response. Almost all of the replies to this post amount to people incredulously shouting “you’re a stupid misogynist how dare you!” It’s like the OP is a dog that behaved in a way that their owners didn’t like, so they all swoop in and start beating him with sticks to make sure he knows he’s wrong… You actually entertained the OP’s point of view, and provided a solid argument for why you disagreed. Amazing. This is the sort of debate that might actually change minds. At the very …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:06 PM
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This seemed like the obvious answer to me.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:25 AM
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I have no idea. I’ve never encountered this perspective in real life. The only thing I can think of for myself is that dating a woman with a kid might bring extra responsibilities and obstacles to overcome that I might not have the energy for. From a red pill perspective, I might be worried that a single mom is trying to use me as a resource rather than being interested in me as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:54 PM
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One thing I’d be interested in hearing about—have any prominent male artists escaped this radical feminist headspace? Are there any male artists out there that might be described as Left wing male advocates?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/24 06:49 PM
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I vehemently disagree with your statement that porn is an “unchanged factor”. There has definitely been a HUGE change in the availability of porn in the past 20 years. 20 years ago you had to buy a print magazine, and usually hide it somewhere in your house. Looking at porn was an activity that you had to make a conscious effort to do. Today, at any moment and in any place, you can look up any variety of porn you want. Doing so takes zero effort. Algorithms can create a situation where it takes …
/r/MensRights27/05/24 05:38 PM
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On the “worse off” end of the spectrum, there’s also the fact that very few girls grow up without a mother (i.e. a female role model), but lots of boys grow up in fatherless homes with no major male role models. Research has shown that this has a huge, negative impact on boy’s lives. Increases chance that they’ll have mental health issues, commit crimes, commit suicide, they do worse in school, etc. It’s a really serious problem that our culture should pay more attention to. https://youtu.be/uE2…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/24 04:02 AM
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I was thinking it was more pro-men in terms of how it describes the experience of sons of immigrants. I wasn't thinking about the fathers so much, although I still feel like the immigrant dads were shown more positively than the cringe-feminist non-immigrant dad. My point was that you always hear women say things like "parents are so harsh with their daughters but treat their sons like princes who can do no wrong". I've always felt suspicious of this. I wondered if its just that mothers are more…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 06:06 PM
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Is that necessarily a bad thing, though? Being willing to sacrifice yourself to save someone else's life? I don't think that attitude is incompatible with improving society for men. If a man chooses to take a bullet for someone else I see that as noble. It's more the undervaluing of a men's lives and welfare by others that I see as a problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 03:11 AM
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Your first point is exactly why sane, non-misogynistic men like us need to become more vocal. Otherwise the public will never take men's issues seriously.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 03:02 AM
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That's the point that most social movements start from, though. Usually anyone who advocates for a change from the status quo values will be attacked by the general public.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 03:00 AM
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I think we need to change this. I think the energy is there. Lots of men are complaining anonymously online. A small group of people just has to take the lead and start organizing public events. I think if they do things the right way, men will come out of the woodwork to support them. And really, I think it's critical that this happens. Men's issues are barely in the public conversation at the moment. A very public event like a men's march, or even a social media campaign (not on X, though...or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 02:55 AM
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Another thought is that conformity has been enforced in education for a long time. However, they used to use methods that worked on boys (corporal punishment, taunting, yelling). Maybe boys need somewhat rougher treatment to acknowledge authority. This sounds anti-male, but could be pro-male. For instance, it’s been said that the military can be great for men, because it imposes order and discipline…largely using these tactics. Boys might respond better to this sort of punishment than girls, whi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/24 01:34 AM
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To clarify— Is it schizosexism if someone commits a sexist act in a way that actually supports gender equality? Or does it have to be pure malicious sexism devoid of any real attempt at promoting gender equality? An example of the former might be: a woman advances a stereotype of men as violent rapists in the name of reducing the threat of sexual assault for women. Even if based on a technically sexist stereotype of men, the effect might be to make the female experience more equal to the male ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/24 01:18 AM
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I agree somewhat. I think the concept is good, but the examples provided don’t exactly match what he’s defining as schizosexism. I think a better example would be e.g. using the hashtag KillAllMen. These people see themselves as acting against sexism, but are actually committing sexism. Another example is the proliferation of the term Toxic Masculinity. Overt use of a sexist stereotype in the name of fighting sexism. One more example…any sort initiative that excludes men in the name of gender eq…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/24 01:08 AM
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Eh, I thought this was funny. Especially since he was presenting best costume. From an anti-objectification standpoint, my only complaint would be that they didn’t have to get a bodybuilder to do it. It takes steroids to get a body like that—not healthy to teach young men that that’s the body they need to be desirable.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/24 05:07 PM
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My experience in STEM academia is what disenchanted me with feminism in the first place. My field was about 80% men. But every government funded internship or fellowship seemed to have a quota where 50% or more of the accepted students had to be women. On every advertisement for these positions, it would say “women and underrepresented minorities are strongly encouraged to apply”, which is the logical equivalent of “white and Asian men are discouraged from applying”. Half of the news stories on …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 11:59 PM
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You’re getting downvoted but I think this is it. “Society would be screwed without men’s inventions” is a common defense of men as a group. This is a reaction to a reaction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/24 06:56 PM
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It’s on my reading list.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/24 03:03 PM
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Has anyone been able to find statistics on total funding attributed to men’s vs. women’s health? Most search results I can find are just zoom in on some extremely specific way in which women are disadvantaged in health care, or talk about how men are less healthy because we’re too “macho”. The only source I could find was this one which is a little outdated (2019) https://www.fatherly.com/health/men-die-younger-government-funding-womens-healthcare …which unsurprisingly points to a massive dispar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/24 06:13 AM
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Actually this is kind of scary. I think it’s natural for people to want to serve their partner when they’re in love. But when the culture tells one partner that they deserve a subservient spouse, and the other that being subservient is the moral thing to do…one of the groups is going to be very vulnerable to abuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 05:53 PM
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I’ve never thought about this before. This is great. I’m not sure if it needs to go under the label of f3mcel. It’s really just a partner of one sex wanting a subservient spouse—a spouse that lives to serve the dominant partner. I’m surprised I hadn’t figured this out myself. I think I had sympathy for these sorts of complaints before reading your post. Now I realize that they’re toxic. The thing to shoot for is a relationship where both partners have equal power. Being subservient to your wife …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 05:06 PM
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Sweet, thanks for the list. I’ll try to read through some of these.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/24 09:12 PM
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Thanks for such a thorough answer. I have to say I did a really quick search of men's studies research and was not encouraged. My first impression is that the field definitely still feels like an outgrowth of feminism and an anti-masculine vibe pervades most of it. But maybe I need to dig deeper. That's really interesting that you think philosophy and sociology might provide routes to understanding men's issues outside of the feminist framework. And sure, if it isn't too much work I'd be very in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/24 03:07 AM
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Your responses aren’t getting upvoted as much as the angry hot takes in this thread, but I just wanted to say that I really appreciate them. It seems like the posts that get attention here mostly just whip up people’s hatred of feminism, but I see very few actually substantive, sober-minded conversations by people that seem to know what they’re talking about…like you. Question for you…have you noticed any sort of uptick in the number of academics approaching gender studies from the cisgendered m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/24 08:07 PM
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Ha, not talking about the comments. The upvote rate is exactly 50%.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/02/24 06:51 AM
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Surprised that this post has been so polarizing...
/r/EverydayMisandry03/02/24 03:04 AM
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I don’t think that’s where the humor usually comes from. Yes, some jokes play off of the “hey look, this tough guy is acting like a sissy!”. But more often, I think it’s “slapstick” humor. For some reason, people think it’s funny to watch other people get hurt by accident. Then there’s the femdom flex humor—reversing gender norms for laughs—which is weirder, but more common in “feminist” films.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/02/24 04:54 PM
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I’m neutral about this. I just wanted to point out that you just suggested that the solution to the male loneliness epidemic is to “leave the men alone”. You have to admit that there’s something funny about that.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 05:03 PM
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Upvote for Baldwin IV. More people should know about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:27 PM
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For me I think the motivation is key but yeah I'd say that in general those things would make the cut.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/01/24 05:16 PM
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Doesn’t misandry have to be motivated by hatred or a similar feeling? I’m not sure if inequality is necessarily misandry. For instance, women might be naturally more flexible than men. That’s not misandry. Misandry would be hating men or showing prejudice against them because you assume they can’t touch their toes.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/01/24 05:45 PM
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That’s a very interesting way to frame it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 01:10 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:45 PM
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The impressive part isn't that he cooks, cleans, works out, and hangs with friends. I think most men do all of those things to some degree. The comments here saying otherwise strike me as somewhat bigoted and hateful. The impressive thing is that he presented his life in a way that made it look like he'd adopted the role of a dutiful 1950s housewife, but as a man. Everything he did was to support his partner. Even his going to the gym made me think...''I'm going to the gym so I can look good for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:27 PM
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Why don’t you explain to me why this is misandry?
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 11:20 PM
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Misandry isn’t hatred of individual men. For example, it’s not misandrist to hate Adolf Hitler. Misandry is hatred of men as a group. For instance, assuming that they’re all predators trying to rape you, or assuming that they do poorly in school because men are naturally stupid. Or it can also be a desire to harm all men—for instance, pushing policies that unfairly harm men, and not caring about the harm done, or even celebrating the harm. Those things are Misandry. Disagreeing with one poster o…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 11:18 PM
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Maybe. Men don’t seem to be involved. Unless you’re protesting the fact that this was posted on “nothowgirlswork”. Idk if the 90% stat is correct, but yeah…this kind of is how girls work. Still don’t get how this demonstrates hatred or contempt of men.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 11:12 PM
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Hmm okay, I actually kind of get this one, lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 11:09 PM
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This post has nothing to do with men. It’s just an example of an expectation that society puts on women.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 11:08 PM
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This is misogyny, not misandry. Just stop with these posts. They don't make any sense. Are you a bot?
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 10:25 PM
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Okay now I'm convinced that you're a secret feminist that's just trolling this subreddit.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/01/24 10:24 PM
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This is lighthearted teasing, not misandry. If we're trying to raise awareness of misandry and its consequences it's important that we don't exaggerate what it actually is.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/01/24 03:47 PM
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Do you have ED? Your username makes me suspect that you do.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 09:09 PM
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I see the problem, now. All of the questionable posts were made by the same guy. ''Rod_Stiffwood ''. Lol.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 09:08 PM
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lol this guy
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 09:03 PM
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No but they thought it was misogyny when there's a good chance that it wasn't. That's annoying when it happens, but she's not being motivated by a hatred of men, just a misunderstanding of them. It's a subtle difference, heh.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 09:03 PM
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Hooray this is actually misandry! Not that it's a good thing, but I'm celebrating the fact that at least one person posting in this sub understands what misandry is.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:48 PM
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This is not misandry. Actually the Dad is the problematic one in this scenario, for generalizing that all men prefer guns to women. Pretty stupid take imo.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:47 PM
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This isn't really misandry, just annoying narcissistic teenage girl logic. It sounds like a quote from Mean Girls.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:46 PM
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This is misogyny not misandry. Misandry is a real thing, but this is not it.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:45 PM
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This isn't really misandry, more like perceived misogyny that may have been falsely perceived. The only misandrist element in this post was the use of the term ''toxic masculinity'' in the second to last comment.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:43 PM
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This is not misandry.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:42 PM
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This would be misandry if you actually heard a woman say this. But actually it's more like misogyny because you're assuming a negative trait in women.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:41 PM
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This isn't really misandry, more like gynocentrism (i.e. not considering the man's point of view...although I don't think the commenter was obligated to do that in this situation, anyways).
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:40 PM
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This is not misandry.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:38 PM
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This is not misandry.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:38 PM
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This is not misandry.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/01/24 08:37 PM
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This sounds plausible to me. Do you have a good idea for how your hypothesis conflicts with the consensus among anthropologists? Do they tend to downplay the effects of women’s choice of mate, or women’s power and status in hunter-gatherer societies?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/23 08:41 PM
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Fantastic post, thank you. These are precisely the sorts of discussions that I want to see more of on this subreddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/23 06:44 PM
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I’d be careful of becoming the thing that you hate. Not all men are rapists, that’s true. And not all women carelessly hurt men. There are plenty of women who have sympathy for men’s wellbeing.
/r/MensRights22/12/23 06:34 PM
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So for the rest of human history, all romantic interactions must be channeled through dating apps? What a garbage take. Go outside.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 03:53 PM
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If our culture promoted men approaching women as being a good thing, then more women would be comfortable with it.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 05:04 AM
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My takeaway is that as a culture we should put more energy into teaching young men how to approach women in a respectful way, and reassuring them that this is a good thing. Because it is a good thing—this study clearly showed that most young men and women want it to happen more often. That is not at all the message that I got, growing up.
/r/MensRights12/12/23 05:23 PM
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This is what I was thinking. This ad seems to come more from a BDSM/Dominatrix space and less from a “men are animals” space.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 02:25 AM
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