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CMViamsobasic/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:09 AM
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Discussioniamsobasic/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:55 PM
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I agree. My mother is one of the most narcissistic people on the planet. I haven’t spoken to her in 8 years. Why the heck should I need her permission to do anything?
/r/MensRights31/05/24 11:30 PM
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100% this. Women live in the moment and constantly change their minds about everything. Concepts like delayed gratification and long term planning are not a part of their vocabulary because they’ve gotten away with being impulsive their entire lives as society has created unlimited safety nets for them than men don’t have.
/r/MensRights31/05/24 11:24 PM
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This is why I see all gender conscription to be a step in the right direction. As counterintuitive as it might seem, it is actually a stepping stone towards abolishment.
/r/MensRights31/05/24 10:54 PM
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The ONLY situation where this could be a true statement is a woman who has no children, genetically gifted to look much younger than her true age. She focused on her career and went from being broke student in her 20s to being a high income earner in her early 30s. She is willing to be a breadwinner and is looking for a man who is a modest earner, but willing to spend more time being a dad to their future kids. However, this is incredibly rare. A woman like this is a unicorn.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/24 11:07 PM
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That’s how it should be, but your arrangement is rare, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 03:47 AM
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“He’s too perfect, that kind of creeps me out” is literally an excuse I’ve heard from a woman about why she dumped a partner. Can’t win no matter what.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 03:45 AM
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Yeah my mom was horrible and didn’t love me or my sister.
/r/MensRights24/03/24 04:40 PM
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Even the young age 18-20 men of Russia are victims. Forced to go fight in a war against Ukraine that they never asked for. Only for Putin and the other crazy leaders who are their father’s and grandfather’s age.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 01:50 AM
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I’m splitting hairs here but it’s 2.9% not 3.5%
/r/MensRights22/03/24 01:47 AM
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It’s the same way companies try to poach employees from competitors (who may only just be mediocre) rather than hire from outside the industry because they don’t want to spend the time, effort, and money to vet a huge pool of applicants and try to identify and train outside talent.
/r/MensRights19/03/24 02:10 PM
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So you’re admitting that your post is insincere, but rather just a hot take to drive engagement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:10 PM
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I think this is where women fundamentally don’t understand men. If I’m happily married to a 6.5/10 (physical attractiveness) woman with an amazing personality and solid values, I’m not going to actively seek out a 7/10 or 8/10 woman just so I can divorce my wife and “move up” the ladder. That’s what women do. Women are trying to project their preferences and tendencies onto men. Women (whether single or taken) are constantly presented with options, and as soon as they find a man who appears to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:16 AM
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Correct, if we actually included all adult men, including the extremes, women are attracted to like 5% or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:06 AM
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Seriously, I’m sick of women with like 50% body fat complaining than men are shallow. There are a lot of good programs out there to lose weight. A short guy on the other hand is screwed, unless he gets painful surgery that costs like $40,000 and takes a year to recover.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:03 AM
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OP managed to be so misogynistic that most of MensRights don’t even agree with him 🤡
/r/MensRights05/03/24 07:19 PM
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I can imagine a future where 2,000 year from now humans are extinct, but machines, robots, and computers run by advanced AI continue to exist and colonize the entire solar system and nearby star systems like Alpha Centauri.
/r/MensRights04/03/24 11:23 PM
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Women talk to other women and realize they all do it so they think there’s nothing wrong with it. A self perpetuating cycle.
/r/MensRights04/03/24 10:56 PM
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Bro that’s fucking hilarious. But it’s sadly true as well.
/r/MensRights04/03/24 10:55 PM
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So in other words, a woman being unreasonable.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 01:39 PM
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Well yeah there are shitty men out there too. Can’t trust anybody it seems.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 04:42 PM
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It’s not about being supportive. It’s whether they will weaponize your stories and emotions that you shared with them against you. When I tell bros about some problems, some will shrug it off and not seem to care. Kinda sucks, but certainly not as bad as when women have used it against me to hurt me in every future argument. My mom and I haven’t spoken in 7 years. My bros say, “man that sucks sorry” and move on to the next topic. Women say, “what’s wrong with you?”
/r/MensRights20/02/24 04:38 PM
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Only if the woman is attractive. I’ve never seen an unattractive woman cause a group of men to fall apart.
/r/MensRights20/02/24 01:40 PM
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“Bros before hoes” has withstood the test of time
/r/MensRights18/02/24 04:51 PM
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They let girls join the Boy Scouts but boys cannot join the Girl Scouts. A microcosm of how society at large works nowadays.
/r/MensRights17/02/24 05:06 PM
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It’s not an Aesop fable according to Wikipedia. It’s a Russian fable from the early 1900s.
/r/MensRights22/01/24 07:31 PM
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In other words, plenty of men will simp for women, but not vice versa.
/r/MensRights19/01/24 06:46 AM
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100% agree. Anyone can accidentally find themselves in a shitty relationship. But if this is her 6th boyfriend who is physically abusive? Then she really needs to reevaluate her taste in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:56 PM
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I don’t think a lot of women date down. It may seem like it, because a lot of times you go out and see a very average looking or even unattractive looking man with a hot wife. But what you don’t see is that usually that man is very wealthy or powerful. You might see some random fat bald guy with a hot milf wife and 2 kids out shopping on the holidays. What you don’t see/know is that the fat bald guy is the mayor of a nearby town, or a state senator you haven’t heard of, or owns 6 local car deale…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:34 PM
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Yup, watching TV or reading a book while an appliance is running shouldn’t count as “chore time”. 100 years ago, it was a very different story, as washing clothes was a very tedious and manual process. Today? Not so much. Even stuff like vacuuming nowadays can be delegated to a roomba.
/r/MensRights18/12/23 05:04 AM
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The entire premise of the OP is cap. The only notable person who dumps women when they turn 25 is Leo DiCaprio. And that’s probably only because he’s a narcissist, a multimillionaire, and also has a never ending supply of women under 25 who want to be his next girlfriend. This is not even remotely close to reality for most men. The majority of men just want a loyal woman to build a future together with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:26 AM
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I’m not Indian, but I think some Indian guys really got dealt a shitty hand in life because while the caste system is not “officially” a thing anymore, a lot of people within Indian culture still unofficially use it. If you were an Indian man born into a “low caste” then you’re basically considered unmarriable by the majority of Indian women. So then these guys try their luck with foreigners, and most of them don’t seem interested either. I can totally understand where their frustration comes fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:13 AM
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In fact, it’s the opposite. Married couples get tax breaks and even child tax credits. So it’s an extra slap in the face for those who are forever single.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:05 AM
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Yeah and that’s fair too. But I was just pointing out that not being someone’s first choice doesn’t necessarily mean you were their last resort either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:17 AM
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Of course, but I think OP (who’s a woman) was making a point that “no good men left” is not an unsolvable problem, but rather something women disingenuously complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:08 AM
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I don’t think that’s the main issue. People aren’t just hot or ugly. There’s a sliding scale. The top people are very hot/attractive. Then you have people you find somewhat cute or mildly attractive. There’s also people you feel indifferent about. And finally, you have people you find unattractive, repulsive, and/or ugly. I think many women at some point in their life came across a guy (classmate, coworker, friend of a friend, neighbor, etc.) where he expressed interest in her, and she said “hm,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:44 AM
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I think they are saying that once you hit a certain age, the attractive guys who are still single and available are less likely to be good guys. The idea being that those who are both attractive and good people are already mostly taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:36 AM
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There’s nothing logical about cheating. I think aside from serial cheaters, most people feel some inkling of regret, unless they actually intend to leave their partner. Having a full blown affair is one thing. But I think a hookup with a “sleazy 304” is usually someone giving into their irrational horny thoughts, and then they will feel pretty stupid once that post nut clarity hits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:33 AM
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Being overweight is normalized way more today than any other time in history, so any woman who isn’t morbidly obese shouldn’t have an issue finding a guy as long as her expectations are realistic. The latter part is usually the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:27 AM
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The women who “wake up” and figure out this reality sooner than later usually find a reasonably decent guy to be with. The ones who can’t figure it out until they are 40+ basically missed the boat and will be stranded on the lonely island or have to massively settle for a below average guy (which rarely happens, they’d rather complain that there’s no good men left).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:26 AM
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The people in this thread are wild. If she’s actually happy with the guy, then what’s the issue lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:24 AM
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You can desire someone but also know that there are other people you desire more, but you can’t have those other people because they are already taken or they just don’t reciprocate the feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:23 AM
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But you’re actually self aware of the situation and what’s going on. And that’s fine; nothing wrong with that. However, many others will just keep complaining that there’s no one left, while in complete denial about their own unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:16 AM
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In this example, we see someone who took the HR job and it worked out. But others will see that and say “nah. Imma keep applying for the fund manager job.” And then go complain about all the rejections on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:14 AM
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Not quite, but 40% of American adults have less than $400 in their bank account? https://abcnews.go.com/US/10-americans-struggle-cover-400-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 02:09 PM
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I think the idea that abusive, misogynistic, manipulative, and unfaithful men who happen to be physically attractive are able to find partners with minimal effort is the most frustrating for the majority of men. An acquaintance of mine is a such guy (even has a felony on his record), and he has 4 baby mommas who are constantly fighting each other to become his main woman. It’s unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:28 PM
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I agree with you both that making it a societal standard for both women and men to make the first move on someone they are interested in would be beneficial to most people. I was a total clueless virgin in high school (until 2nd year of college), and two of my female friends from HS told me years later “you know I kinda had a thing for you in high school but you never made a move.” And that’s the most absurd thing. All they had to do was say something and the problem would have been solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:23 PM
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The contradiction I see is the many women who will date cheaters, abusers, misogynists, womanizers, etc with the “I can fix him” mentality only because they find him physically attractive. It’s basically impossible to “fix” this type of man, but woman after woman will continue to try even after seeing all of his previous partners fail. The irony is that it’s probably way easier to take a guy who is not physically attractive looking, but otherwise a great person (in terms of personality and value…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:13 PM
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My mother is a POS and I haven’t spoken to her in 7 years. The only times she’s “loved” me were when it was opportunistic for her personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:47 AM
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You gotta draw the line somewhere for legal purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:16 PM
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Actually you bring up a good point. A lot of women have fairly closely knit social groups of 6-8 of them. Often, the only men who are involved in that social group are a husband/boyfriend of one of them, or a token gay male friend. The only way for a somewhat normal/average outsider (straight male) to gain access to that social group is if the husband/boyfriend invites him in, and his wife/girlfriend approves. However, the husband/boyfriend is putting his reputation on the line and his relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:40 AM
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As a guy in my mid-30s, I can say at some point my (male) friends and I have all gotten to the point where we’ve all had sex with at least a handful of women and also have been in at least one bad long term relationship with a woman. Of course if some unbelievably hot woman is within our proximity we will take notice, and may even point it out. But generally speaking, we have all become way more apathetic about interacting with women compared to when we were in our early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:16 AM
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Or maybe if all women refused to become porn stars then this problem wouldn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:40 PM
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The GOP are actively taking away women’s reproductive rights, yet 53% of white women voted for Trump. Explain that. How is that the fault of black pill? The majority of white women are voting against their own best interests. Did men hold a gun to their head and force them to vote for republicans?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:12 AM
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Being voluntarily celibate is a lot different than being involuntarily celibate. Meaning, a lot of the women who are refraining from sex are being selective about choosing their partner. That is far different than a man who literally has nobody to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:27 PM
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You are absolutely right. These studies have arbitrary cutoffs that skew results badly. People here often say, “but the average age gap is only 2.3 years” without understanding how sampling and distributions work. Like you said, if the age range of the study is arbitrarily 18-29, then all those women in their late 20s who are married or in relationships with men in their early 30s are going to make the data look very skewed. I think people generally underestimate the effect that has on the resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:16 PM
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When people in a marriage become unhappy, often it leads to divorce. Therefore they would no longer be classified as married. Therefore anyone who is identifying as currently married is more likely to be in a happier phase of their marriage. If you survey all men (and women) who have been previously married but not currently married, they may have a much different view about marriage and happiness than those who are currently married. These currently married and happy people are not guaranteed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:58 PM
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I remember reading some article a long time ago where the author said she was attracted to men who had many partners. But then one of them gave her an STD and then she changed her preference to men who didn’t sleep around so much. Made me wonder: are women really that stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:57 PM
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Correct. A lot of men have a height preference, but it’s not a dealbreaker. But for most women, height below a certain threshold is an absolute dealbreaker for them. They could find a man who fits all of their other criteria, but reject him because he’s 2” below her arbitrary threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:48 PM
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Agreeing with you: Men receive harsher sentencing than women do for the equivalent crime. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentencing_disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:13 PM
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But she’s also more likely to think she’s a fairy tale princess whose shit don’t stink.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:34 PM
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As someone who’s done both, I agree with you 100%. The 21 yo in this scenario will just take take and take until you’re out of money and then she will leave. A 30 yo who is paying half of all expenses has skin in the game, as she is financially invested into the relationship. People here acting like a 30 yo is an old lady are hilariously wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:33 PM
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Taylor Swift
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:56 AM
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82% of men are under 6 feet tall. So I’d say 6’0” would be definitely categorized as above average. It’s on the bottom end of being considered “tall” but statistically it’s not average, as it’s more than a standard deviation above the median height (5’9”).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:44 AM
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Just order a soda, put a lemon or lime on the rim of the glass, and start sipping on it when your friends go out to a bar or club. Nobody will know the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:40 AM
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Most likely she just needs to make adjustments to the criteria of men she hooks up with. Either way she still likely has way more options than the “average” hetero male her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:38 AM
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Yep this happens more than you think. A good dude friend of mine had a female “best friend” for years where he was totally willing to date her, but she kept things platonic while he was single for many years and she dated various guys during that time. Then one of her female friends started to date him, and then she grew insanely jealous and started all sorts of drama. It’s literally hilarious how illogical women can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:16 PM
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Sounds like he needed therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:15 PM
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A lot of people in America are fat. And there are also plenty of unemployed people, students (with little to no income), and people making minimum wage or close to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:57 PM
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I don’t think the calculator is off. Just running some rough numbers though my head… 5’9 alone brings it down to 50%. Then add white and maybe you’re down to 30%. Half of men are overweight (not sure how they definite obese), so now you’re down to 15%. 50k is median pay, so you’re down to 7.5%. Then you gotta exclude all the guys already married. I’m sure a lot of guys 35-45 are married. Let’s say half of them are… now we’re at 3.75% Still higher than 2.8% but we’re in the ballpark.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:55 PM
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0.03% overall is a huge number globally or even nationally, but once you narrow it down by geography (e.g. 50 mile radius), it really isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:51 PM
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Congratulations, you’re one of the small % of women who figured out how men’s brains work 🙌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:50 PM
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Yup, I have a friend who is 6’6” and would get approached by tons of flirty women. He’s awkward as hell and fumbled the interaction quite often, but if he wasn’t tall, then he would get 0 action at all. The matter of fact is that women would approach him while knowing absolutely nothing about him aside from the fact that he was tall. Literally a cheat code.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:54 PM
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I think if given the following choices: A man who is less educated but makes more money A man who is more educated but makes less money If all else were equal (looks, height, personality, politics, etc) most women would choose option 1 than option 2 to marry and start a family with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:34 PM
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Marriage is an institution that was created and encouraged by kings, emperors, and churches so that they could control and keep tabs on their communities and societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:28 PM
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The majority of women will absolutely not date a man who makes less than her. So as a man, dating a woman that makes more money is very improbable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 04:25 PM
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Key word is she was a lesbian. As in she was getting rejected by women. This doesn’t challenge the fact that women (both straight and lesbian) are far pickier than men (straight and gay).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:59 PM
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Why don’t you date any of your male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:06 PM
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Why not just ask him out instead of hovering and waiting for him to ask you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:19 AM
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I think it’s just important to communicate intent and boundaries up front. If that pisses him off and he doesn’t want to be your friend, then so be it. But sometimes guys will be cool with it and respect your boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:18 AM
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You should not have to feel bad about it because she never communicated to you that she liked you. Modern women should approach men they like, instead of just waiting around expecting us to read their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:15 AM
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It would be a better analogy if all women had an insatiable desire to become really muscular and strong, but they struggle at the gym while men walk in and easily bench and curl more weight than them. The reality is most women don’t give 2 shits about being strong and muscular so it’s not a really good analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:33 AM
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While casual sex may not mean much to a woman who can easily get it, I’m sure the most hideous and ugly looking people (both men and women) are envious because they literally get ZERO attention from anybody and have to come to terms with being forever alone. Everything is relative. Someone with only $1,000 in their bank account probably thinks they are poor and struggling, but the homeless person with only $5 in their pocket and no bank account feels like having $1,000 would be life changing mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:27 AM
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Yeah if a 9/10 is striking out left and right for 3 years, there’s usually a good reason that has nothing to do with her looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:05 PM
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You didn’t answer the question though 😀
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:52 PM
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The real test is would you be with someone who made $500k a year but constantly complains about how much they hate their job lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:40 PM
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Isn’t it captain obvious stuff that the top 5-10% of men don’t have trouble getting women? I don’t see how you’re contributing to the discussion by pointing out the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:56 PM
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Because literally both men and women are largely complaining about how modern dating is too difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:54 PM
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Only a very small portion of the adult male population fit all the requirements you just listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:53 PM
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She said it to me in a different thread
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:35 PM
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A guy like that won’t be able to cash in on his hall passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 11:36 AM
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Lol what? It absolutely will help weed out the bottom of the barrel scavengers if a woman doesn’t have sex on the first date. If a dude sticks around for 4-5 dates then he’s most likely looking for more than a single lay. However, i think after 5+ dates holding out for additional dates won’t make much of a difference. Sex on the 6th date vs waiting for the 10th date will not really weed out anymore assholes. If some guy is really going for the long con, and he’s had the patience for 6 dates with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:45 AM
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Yeah and nobody is gonna agree to come over for a home made meal on a first date lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:57 PM
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I live in Philly. Restaurant week is $40-50 a person for a prefix menu at most participating restaurants now. The last time you were single was 1998. Times have changed dude. EDIT: Find me which 5 star restaurant in Philly still does a $20 dinner for restaurant week. It literally doesn’t exist. You’re thinking of prices from decades ago. Edit 2: here’s proof - https://www.visitphilly.com/things-to-do/events/center-city-restaurant-week/ All restaurant week prices START at $40 a person for dinner.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:49 PM
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Yeah these people who live in bumblefuck think their prices are comparable to anyone living in a coastal city.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:09 PM
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You said women becoming more educated meant that female hypergamy was on the decline. But studies have shown that’s not true. They just find less educated men who make lots of money. For example, a licensed electrician in my state makes like $150k a year. A woman with a master’s degree in liberal arts most likely makes a lot less than that. So if they marry, even though she’s more educated, he’s still the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:37 PM
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Ok fine I was inaccurate. But you were also wrong in assuming that female hypergamy was disappearing/nonexistent as you claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:34 PM
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I’m simply saying that women have the OPTION to marry up because a lot of men willing to marry down exist. However, men don’t even have the OPTION to marry up because the women willing to marry down don’t exist. Sure, I’m sure there are women willing to have short term relationships and flings with cute guys who are perpetually unemployed, but that’s not the same as marrying or being in a long term committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:33 PM
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“In every union type, including those with a more educated female partner, “men are the most likely to be the main earners.” That Sweden’s commitment to gender egalitarianism is close to a state religion and that women have been partnering with less-educated men for decades only adds to the salience of the findings.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:29 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/whither-hypergamy Degrees/diplomas have nothing to do with how much money one makes. Women still tend to marry men who make more money. Excerpt below: “But hypergamy turns out to be a stubborn thing. It seems that the highly-credentialed alpha female still prefers a mate above her pay grade. In one of the most widely-cited papers on the subject, demographer Yue Qian compared couples in the 1980 Census and in 2012 American Community Survey. She found that during the int…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:28 PM
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Maybe next time you should pay attention to who you’re replying to before throwing accusations around and downvoting. Anyways, my point is that women either marry across or up. Not down. Men marry across or down. Not up. Therefore the balance between the genders is not equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:23 PM
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When the hell did I say that? That was someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:10 PM
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I’m saying there are plenty of upper class men who date/marry middle class or working class women. I’ve literally never seen or heard of an upper class woman date or marry a lower middle class or working class man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:09 PM
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But that’s my point. There are a non-trivial number of men who choose to pay for everything. However I have yet to find a single woman who chooses to do this. Therefore male hypergamy is basically impossible, whereas female hypergamy is still alive and kicking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:08 PM
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I’m not arguing that he’s picking the right or wrong woman. I’m simply saying that if the particular woman he went out with is unwilling to pay anything, then going out for dinner together gets expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:03 PM
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Where do you live though? Missouri? South Dakota? Wyoming? I find that a lot of people from the Midwest or Deep South have no clue how expensive everything is in the northeast.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:01 PM
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I agree, pretty women who grew up wealthy are probably the only ones who never really struggled with money even once. As a child they had rich parents to pay for everything, and as an adult they probably have an endless line of men willing to buy them stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:00 PM
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But have any of them dated down? (In terms of economic class)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:59 PM
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While I don’t really agree with OP, I also disagree with your last sentence, “Who would date someone they have to pay everything for?” Female hypergamy is prevalent enough that there are many relationships where the man pays for everything. You almost never see it the opposite way though. Male hypergamy is almost nonexistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:58 PM
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Female hypergamy is becoming more and more prevalent. Which also means more and more men are dating down (in terms of economic level).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:55 PM
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Imagine having to wait until restaurant week to go on a date lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:54 PM
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He’s trying to say the woman doesn’t wanna fork over $25 for her half.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:53 PM
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So you haven’t been in the dating scene since 1998 and you’re trying to give advice on first dates here? LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:53 PM
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Not only that, but in the big east coast cities, even discounted events like restaurant week are easily $35+ a person plus tip and tax. The other guy must live in Kansas or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:52 PM
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Where the hell do you live? Where I live, I went to a mead tasting in the summer and it was $40 per person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:50 PM
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For real, unless you’re already pushing 6’6”+ (then being too tall becomes a thing) an extra inch of height will always help you get more women’s attention. Extra muscles always helps too, unless you’re looking like Phil Heath (then you’re too jacked for most women). Neither of these things are a requirement, but it sure doesn’t hurt to be taller or more muscular. Unless you’re in the top 1-2% in either category already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 07:03 AM
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Women in their 30s and 40s complaining that men only go after women in their 20s is hilarious. Bitch, you had 10 years of being in your 20s too! It’s your own fault that you squandered those years with some asshole(s) that clearly didn’t give af about you. And now you’re salty that all the decent guys are either taken or going after younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:01 PM
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That would be a really interesting exercise for women. Create a fake dating profile with pics of a very average looking dude, put 5’9” (which is avg) for height, and then see how many matches and dates she can set up. I think most women would believe they could probably easily set up 5-10 dates (with at least average-ish looking women — getting a date with a super unattractive woman shouldn’t count) in a month with this fake profile, but the reality would be most would struggle to get 1-2, with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:28 PM
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I read an interesting story on another sub a few months ago. I can’t find it now, but here was the gist of the story: Some guy tries online dating and can’t get any dates. His sister and her friends tell him he can’t get any dates because he’s being a stupid male and doesn’t know how to talk to women. So he makes her a bet. He gives her access to his dating profile for 1 month. If she can get him at least one date he will give her $100. If she can’t get him any dates then she pays him $100. She …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:13 PM
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Yeah it’s the classic, “do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:05 PM
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You don’t even need an analogy. I cannot tell you how many women I’ve seen/known who literally date and fuck the most douchey assholes, while ignoring pretty much every reasonable or decent dude that shows interest in her. And then eventually when the POS she was dating dumps her, she’s go on social media and post “men ain’t shit” or some other dumb comment complaining about how there are no good men to be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:00 PM
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If he’s really 6’5” and 7/10 looks I think it’s doable if he also has a lot of money to spend and time to go out every night and put in full effort. It would quickly get exhausting and not even pleasurable though at that rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 03:54 AM
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Some cultures that have been doing arranged marriages for centuries also contributed to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:05 AM
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Ok then what do you spend your money on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 05:03 AM
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Cause his photos probably suck and he’s likely wearing clothes that make him look like a bum. Get him dressed up in expensive outfits and take professional photos? I guarantee women start matching.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:44 AM
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People won’t know you have/make a lot of money unless you either tell them or show them. Even if it’s not your thing, if you start wearing expensive designer clothes and accessories, women WILL notice. You might wonder, who the fuck can tell by what I’m wearing? Women do. While you were growing up being a tech nerd, they were reading fashion magazines. I am amazed at how aware women are about fashion and branding. Basically find someone who will be your fashion or style consultant. Start driving…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:40 AM
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Exactly. If a woman told me any number less than 100, I’d not even bat an eye. But there are literally people (who aren’t sex workers) with numbers up in the 500-1000 range. I personally would not be comfortable attempting an LTR with someone with a count that high. To me that means they are addicted to the idea of needing to sleep with different people as frequently as possible. Or they have some weird low self esteem issues which require validation by sleeping with as many people as they can. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:11 PM
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Yeah if someone tells me their body count is like 500, then either they are/were a sex worker, or they view sex as a complete joke. Either way, that person wouldn’t be for me. Mine count is 14, which I would imagine is pretty “normal” for a 35 y/o man in America. If a woman told me hers was 50 or even 75, I’d be completely unfazed by it, assuming that’s the real number. But if it’s like 250, 300, 400, etc I’d just say sorry our values and lifestyles just don’t align, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:05 PM
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This. I have an acquaintance who’s a very handsome looking guy. He does very well with women at first, but they never stick around for more than a couple of weeks. Maybe a month tops. He gets very upset as depressed that he’s never going to be in a fulfilling relationship. However, the answer is obvious to me. He’s a completely deranged conspiracy theorist (one example is he legit thinks that the covid vaccine contains a nano-chip that Microsoft developed to remotely control us upon a future act…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:32 AM
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No, the scumbag ends up banging some new naive younger woman in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 10:45 PM
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A lot of women in their 20s are looking for the perfect Prince Charming. By the time they reach their 30s they realize such a man doesn’t exist. They want to have children and start a family, but the biological clock is ticking and time is running out. She also realizes that some of the scumbags she’s been dating might be hot and good in bed, but he’s not gonna be a good father for her future children (or for some, children she already has). Suddenly that kinda boring dweeb who makes $150k a yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 06:49 PM
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You claim to know plenty of people’s behaviors but I don’t see how you’ve been able to observe “plenty” of people’s true behaviors. All you’re getting is a glimpse of the facade they put up while socializing with you. The people we are when we go out or go to work isn’t the real us. We all say, do, or think certain things when friends, co-workers, or strangers aren’t around. That’s the real you. There is no way you’ve gotten to intimately known more than 5 people in your life TOPS and observed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:15 PM
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They followed very traditional gender roles and managed to stay married through some rough times, so it’s unlikely they are far outliers for a married couple imo. Honestly unless you’re married for a very long time, who else besides your own parents and maybe siblings do you get to observe their behaviors over a very long period of time of decades? Most of my gfs only dated me for 1-2 years, which isn’t long enough to get a reliable baseline of their default behavior imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:01 PM
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Did you not read my final paragraph?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:52 PM
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When a man lashes out due to rage, he usually later acknowledges that it was an anger management issue. Maybe wont admit it to others, but inside he knows he was being emotional. However, women legitimately think they are being logical even when they are clearly not. The most obvious example in my life growing up were my parents. My father was a very logical person, but he occasionally had temper tantrums. He was never deluded enough to believe that his temper tantrums were logical. Once he calm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:33 PM
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The calculators are largely useless. Suppose you set two parameters: makes $200k+ and willing to do 50% of the time and effort to do chores, errands, and child raising. Suppose 5% of men make 200k and some survey says 50% of men are willing to split duties equally at home. Common logic might lead people to think 2.5% of men for both criteria. But this is wrong. The effective frequency of men who fulfill both things is actually close to 0% (perhaps 0.01%?) because I really don’t know what job tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:39 PM
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Yeah I think that’s an important distinction. Morbidly obese is the type of weight that everyone universally finds unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:32 PM
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Yes. So if you do “exclude obese” then it will exclude all those men and give you a much lower % than it should. Edit: I’m saying I don’t think the calculator is accurate if you use the “exclude obese” option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:25 PM
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The calculators assume all variables are independent. However, many variables are actually inversely correlated. The calculators don’t seem to account for this. High income earner? Probably less likely to be someone who cooks and does chores around the house proficiently. Extremely fit and physically attractive? Probably less likely to be humble. Calculators currently don’t account for such dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:24 PM
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This is correct. People think, 10% of the population fit my criteria, that’s 1 out of 10 people, why is it so hard to find a bf/gf/spouse? The part of the equation they are missing is once they encounter someone who fits that criteria, what is the probability that YOU fit THEIR standards and that both of you are currently available? Suddenly, once you factor those things into the equation, 10% might suddenly become 0.5%. Hence the incredible frustration that people face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:21 PM
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If you work at a place like Google’s corporate office, I’m sure you’re surrounded by 6 figure earners. However, I’d also expect that being sedentary office workers, the average fitness/health is not that great. Again, all about trade offs and compromise. Delusion comes from being unwilling to compromise on any aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:16 PM
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I think BMI in general overstates the severity of the obesity epidemic. I’d venture as far to say if you took all the men who are classified as “obese” according to BMI, you’d find that at least 1/3 of them don’t look obese at all. At least not the way most people think of obese (think of the Nutty Professor - that’s what most people consider obese).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:11 PM
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The way obesity is calculated is misleading. All it does it compare height and weight. There are a non-trivial number of men who are categorized as “obese” but don’t actually look obese. Men who have muscular frames but a little bit more fat than they used to as a high school or college athlete often end up being officially “obese” but have reasonable looking builds. Think “dad bod” where the guy has broad shoulders and big biceps but doesn’t have abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:02 PM
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This is a great example. I was in the army. Average fitness level of soldiers is way above the general population. However, troops and vets suffer from PTSD at a much higher rate than the general population. There’s always give and take. Or suppose she finds a guy who dedicates all his time to making money and he earns $300k a year. That’s great. However, he’s most likely going to be less available emotionally and even physically because he’s so mentally drained and exhausted from spending so mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:43 PM
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Racism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:46 AM
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The ability to grow a decent beard to hide a jawline is genetic and only a fraction (way less than half) of the adult male population can do that. That’s like saying to a short guy, why don’t you just be tall? He can’t. It’s genetic. Wearing long pants at the beach or at a July 4th BBQ party in hot summer weather? Everyone would think he’s a weirdo and judge really harshly. A bald guy can wear a hat until he’s at a fancy restaurant, a funeral, or someone’s wedding that has a no-hat dress code. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:41 AM
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You said when you imagine “an average white guy” you think about the guys in this group. That statement to me implies that the average of this group should be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:06 AM
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I am using a 0-10 scale. According to you there are is one really good looking guy (8 or 9), one pretty good looking guy (7 or 8), and 6 average looking guys (4-6), and no ugly guys (0-3). Therefore if you have 6 average dudes, one good looking guy, and one really good looking guy, as a group they are well over average. How is this so difficult to understand? If the group was truly average they would need 2 ugly guys to balance out the 2 good looking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:57 AM
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Clearly you don’t understand statistics. If the highest guy is a 9 and the lowest guy is a 4, then the group on AVERAGE is about a 6 or 7. Which is above 5. FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:52 AM
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Ok so not a single one of those guys you’d rate as 0-3. Therefore as a group, you admit they are above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:49 AM
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She’s also free to walk away from the QPQ offer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:44 AM
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I agree that they are mostly taller than average. In terms of weight and build, the chubbiest guy is probably around average, and the rest of them above average. Facially I’d say they are above average (as a group). Even the worst looking one still has a fairly symmetrical face with reasonable positioning of eyes, nose size, reasonable teeth, etc. none of them are actually ugly. So in this sample of 8 guys I think at least 6 of them are well above average. And you said 6 have girlfriends. Comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:16 AM
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Correct. And nobody thinks that the “average” is the apex. Everyone knows that average is well below the apex. That’s why I don’t believe that theory is really the best explanation for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:09 AM
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I know what you’re saying, but that’s not what apex fallacy means (afaik). Apex fallacy is applying characteristics of individuals or a small sample size and assuming the entire set share those characteristics. Apex fallacy would be like Rapunzel seeing the handsome prince for the first time and then incorrectly assuming that all men are handsome like the prince. Women who think above average men are average are doing something different, which is completely disregarding that the bottom half of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:01 AM
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I don’t even think “how much work” is the issue here. Rather, it’s literally wrong advice being given. For example, a woman might say, “Average guys should just go out and be themselves. Eventually the right woman will take notice of you.” This advice is probably good for someone in the 75th percentile, which is who the woman probably thinks of when she says “average” guy. However, for some guy who is literally average (50th percentile), this advice is completely useless for him, as women will l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:55 AM
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I don’t think this is exactly accurate. Apex fallacy (from an American college student’s perspective) would be something like, “Wow, these two exchange students from Australia are really attractive, therefore people from Australia must be attractive.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:50 AM
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My standards for who is attractive enough to sleep with or date does not affect my understanding of what an average woman objectively looks like. My OP was not at all about people’s standards for who they would date, but rather what their perception of “average” is vs the reality of what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:46 AM
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So you’re saying if a guy wore a wig to many dates with you and then revealed it wasn’t his real hair, you’d be upset about it. That’s precisely proving the opposite point of what you think you’re proving.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:24 AM
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What does being Pakistani have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:18 AM
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lol true that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:09 AM
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Sure, we as men could put makeup on. But then most women would assume we’re gay or a weirdo in general. Until makeup usage by men becomes accepted by mainstream society, there will always be a downside to using it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:30 AM
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I disagree. If any woman fits the description of “young, thin, and pretty” men in general will not call them “average” — they might say stuff like “she’s not hot, but she cute” or even make more crass remarks like “I’d f— but not wife her” but all of these things imply that she’s above the statistically average looking women imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:25 AM
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Assuming they got off the app and texted before they met up, that’s when she should/could have disclosed her intentions. Instead, by not doing so, both people ended up wasting their time and feeling salty about it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:14 AM
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Very ironic since women who get plastic surgery can’t pass those traits along either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:54 PM
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Women wear heels all the time and don’t have damaged spines.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:53 PM
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Both parties fucked up. The woman should have been up front about what she was doing (working). The man should have been a little bit more skeptical that everything was playing out like a perfect dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:34 PM
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I think women also need to do a better job of communicating their expectations. I went on 3 dates with someone and later that night she texted me that she was upset that I did NOT kiss her after the 3rd date. The reason I didn’t is because I thought she didn’t want to move fast and she made no indication that she wanted a kiss. Wtf? If she wanted to kiss then why can’t she just ask me if we can kiss? (I would have said yes.) Why is it my job as the man to always have to read a woman’s mind and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:31 PM
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One of my exes was bi. When she cheated on me with another woman I didn’t really get that upset. After all, I wasn’t equipped with the same tools that another woman could provide her with. It was like trying to compare apples to oranges. But then she cheated on me with a man. That was crossing the line and I broke up with her. However, that was the moment I learned that this is why all cheating is bad and you shouldn’t forgive any form of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:51 AM
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That’s me. I’m 5’10” barefoot and that’s what I put in my profile and tell everyone my height is. However, if I’m going out with a taller (over 5’8”) woman in a setting where she’s likely to be wearing heels, I’ll wear my lifts. It gives me just enough of an edge where I’m not gonna be shorter standing next to her. If going out with someone much shorter, then I will definitely not bother doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:47 AM
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I’m 5’10” but I own a pair of dress shoes with really thick insoles (adds about 2”) — I went out with a 5’8” woman who was lamenting that her heels would make her taller than me. So I said “watch this” and put the shoes on. I was now about an inch above her. She was actually very happy that I had those shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:37 AM
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