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It is. Life is ambiguous, it doesn't just move in one fixed direction from "the past" to "progress". I'm not seeing it as a left wing vs conservative thing, I'm seeing it as a life thing. There are plenty of times when left-wing plans have gone awry because life threw a wrench in it's wheels, metaphorically speaking. This is why left-wingers had numerous mental breakdowns when Trump was elected (and that is just one modest example) because it completely destroyed their false worldview that life …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 07:57 PM
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None. I have always reminded reddit that their disdain for this conservative boogeyman they make up in their minds is pure bullshit. I'm not sure why you asked me this question since it's not exactly directly related to what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:20 AM
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This is not a good website to ask this question since redditors think women are 'oppressed' for the most retarded reasons imaginable. Virtually all groups agree that men 'declining' is making women more oppressed. 'Declining' meaning not being assertive enough and doing what's expected of them. It's a left-wing myth that social events are locked with time on a fixed plane and we're always going in one direction of 'progress' with absolutely no variability or nuance. The people who think that way…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:47 PM
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By all means, if you want to do the opposite of what I said then go ahead, but you're going to be a typical woman say 3, 5, 7 years down the road complaining on the internet about how there's no "real men" and why won't men "man up" for you. Many women of varying ages and ethnicities do this. I'm giving you the information to avoid this fate. You seem decent. I'm merely reminding you that you don't have to submit yourself to feminist/redditor weirdo cult indoctrination. These people don't care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:45 PM
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Nothing I said was wrong in any way, you are clearly provoked by something I said. You are deceiving her by telling her it's alright to be a foul nasty woman because guys are going to like her anyway. I mean, men these days are spineless and valueless, they're definitely not the conservative patriarchs you whiny redditors make them out to be, but still, she's not going to find a decent man by being a nasty bitch. Feminism will never change that no matter how many campaigns you launch and no matt…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:38 PM
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Be a decent normal woman and ignore everything you've seen on reddit, fem blogs, any awful shithole websites you've been to. You're not going to find a decent guy by being mean to men and boasting about how foul and promiscuous you are. Men who are actually men at the very least want some value in a woman. They want to know that you are worth their time and that you will be a net positive to their lives. Now, that comes in many forms. The internet likes to whine that too many men are conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 04:48 PM
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I've asked this before here and people didn't really even answer the question directly in true reddit fashion, but since porn these days is tied to liberation of female sexuality, you'd have a lot of feminists complaining and wondering what women are going to do and how they are going to express themselves next. You'd definitely have a lot less young men sitting inside jerking off and withering away. They would have to put more effort into real life actions as the evidence would be obvious to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 10:59 AM
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Really simple. Stop complaining about how hard you have it and how men have no problems. Stop complaining about mistreatment while you mistreat people yourselves and get away with it. Yeah, I know that men have our issues too, I am one and I've had to deal with guys on that level and it's not fun. You have no idea how wrong you all are when you make blanket statements like all men are privileged, men have no problems, every man benefits from a conservative patriarchy, etc those talking points ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:57 PM
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Shutting up and stopping their incessant complaining about how young men don't measure up to their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:53 PM
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Well, since copious amounts of people like complaining about men these days and how young men aren't real men anymore, it would only make sense that these people try to help instead of bitching and belittling people. It only makes sense. You whine online about it all the time, you attack guys online you think are examples of the problem, therefore you should chip in and help. Nobody has to care though, and I think it would be better if they don't, since absolutely nothing good has come out of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:12 PM
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Sometimes it seems feminism is just one big shit test and women are really crying out for strong men to step in and save them from their self-destructive instincts Yes, but it often changes. From what I can tell, women (and their male defenders) expect "men these days" to be a mixture of all these varying factors that of course benefit women. When men inevitably fail to live up to these expectations, the bitching about men escalates. It never stops. This is a problem the other side commits which…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/20 12:03 AM
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This reminds me of when redditors in the past would whine collectively about how guys won't date women in porn, how all the women who have ever done porn would have such a hard time finding a decent conservative white guy. This website is full of bored weirdos who feel sorry for themselves, need an axe to grind and who need to be victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 11:58 PM
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I have seen a plethora of different feminist content and individuals who think porn is some brave statement against a patriarchy. Do all feminists think that way? No. But many do. I've talked with some of them, they're retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 09:49 PM
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No, feminists think that women in porn are liberated and fighting a patriarchy. What a joke all of this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:17 PM
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Who cares about that? Those women are trash lmao. But feminists have convinced them that being in porn is "liberating", fucking idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 06:16 PM
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Reddit thinks women in porn are oppressed because cute conservative (white) guys don't want them. Imagine being so entitled that you actually find that to mean you are oppressed. What people forget in these conversations is that men have a right to our own standards too and that is not misogyny or oppression or whatever. And no, those women in porn are not "sexually repressed", they're literally going to a production which treats them like absolute sluts for the whole world to see. Just because …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 09:07 AM
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Nobody should have to endure being with anybody they don't want. That only causes resentment. Keep your high standards. Don't settle for lesser just so you end up resenting that person after. Just remember that you are entitled to high standards, but you are not entitled to other people. And yes, that applies to women too, who also think that they are owed the best (the best according to them, that is).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 11:57 AM
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I disagree. Women not getting male approval devastates them. Many such cases!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 04:05 PM
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The thing is, is that pretty much nobody tells those women to get the fuck over themselves, that they're not oppressed if the guys they want don't want them. But still, the pity party never stops. If those women didn't see their value as being tied to the approval of those guys, it would cause a lot less problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:02 PM
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But if you take, for example, all the women online who complain that certain types of guys don't want them, that number can add up. Appealing to men definitely matters to women, so fucking much so that the ones who fail at it equate their situation to being oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:33 PM
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Women can talk a big game about how badass they are, but it hurts them like nothing else when men don't want them. It's funny, sort of, but also unnecessarily tragic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:29 PM
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Well, it's not just feminists though, I do notice that when a woman is not wanted by guys, there will be an army of people coming out to condemn guys for not wanting her, and a barrage of excuses are offered which absolve her of blame. The vaunted patriarchy and it's conservative ideas are what is stopping many men from accepting women as partners, in the minds of many strange people. That is what they think is happening. But it doesn't have to be this way. If women didn't tie their value to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:24 PM
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Yes it does. Women see men wanting them as validation for their approval and self worth. Whenever they can't get guys, these things always take a huge dive. Fragile femininity, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:21 PM
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Those ideas don't matter. Female independence and don't need no man is all bullshit, women force these ideas on themselves and other people force it on them that approval or disapproval from men is what makes or breaks them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:20 PM
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Yes, they keep it to themselves or people will shit on their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:18 PM
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Yes you are. You're saying that wanting male approval is alright because women want to be "loved romantically, and partnering with someone with whom one can make a family". That's just the way it goes, but the whole situation is set up so women get their approval from men and that is how their worth is dictated. Even all the weirdos online going on about how women have it so hard because attractive white guys don't want them, they too in their misguided quest to defend women are setting it up so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 01:09 PM
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That sounds like a way to justify this whole thing. Or at least try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:55 PM
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No. I have seen many people pour their hearts out in pain because either a specific woman or women in general are not wanted by guys, and that's just such a terrible thing. The reason people think this about women is because their worth is tied to male approval, so without male approval, they are basically condemned, in the minds of many stupid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 12:22 PM
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Yes I have. This is just the way western society is. Women are allowed to have their cake and eat it too so they act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 03:33 AM
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I've seen it for years. Over and over. These people are whiny hypocrites who want to have their cake and eat it too. But lots of people are like that. Almost everybody wants men to be "real men" because it benefits them and they socially expect that out of men. The women and other individuals who want men to cease being men are an incredibly small portion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:54 PM
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The same people who bitch about patriarchy and conservatism and gender and blah blah blah are the same people who bitch that men aren't men anymore. Someone needs to smack these people in the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 09:27 PM
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Well, I've argued with quite a few guys on the internet who think that this is part of what you said. That men are ignoring women, and we shouldn't do that, and it's a problem that needs to be corrected. That men are being awful towards women if we ignore them. I notice multiple entities think this way, even groups that fight with each other on other issues feel as though this is something that is bad and needs to change. But where is the fucking proof this is happening to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:26 AM
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Time and time again I have seen it used for negative purposes. It awakens and enacts the worst of female behavior, and in the end, women are still the poor little victims as usual. Women have a tendency to think that them being judged for their nasty behavior means a patriarchy is holding them down, and all I've really seen feminism do is enable women to be nasty in a multitude of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 10:39 PM
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Why are you asking me these things? If you stop trying to feel persecuted for at least 2 minutes, you'll see that I was describing talking points that some nasty internet people have thrown at me over the years, but those people exist in abundance and they have a way of hammering out their loser ideas quite well. Now I have heard of instances where men protect and provide for women, and it is true that women do contribute to society. But those nasty people want to control me and other men, contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 07:02 PM
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Then why have so many people I've fought with about this pretty much all told me that men owe women things, and that men need to man up and still give women all their modern amenities while continuing to protect and provide for them? Those very same people currently think that women have it too unfair, that men should be better, more masculine, that women shouldn't have any burdens at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 09:46 AM
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The west will change into something almost unrecognizable. I already see signs of it. One of the biggest errors of the west is trying to carry on the old social contract and reap the benefits of wholesomeness and tradition while also trying it's absolute hardest to embrace the brave new world and all that it entails. And guess what, the responsibility for all of this, the responsibility to ensure that everything survives and thrives as usual is on the backs of men. Which isn't to say that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 05:43 PM
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You're getting stuck on semantics here because this is reddit and redditors have autistic strange obsessions with inconsequential things. Women can only have balls metaphorically, not literally, so if you look at that post again, I said balls (guts) because it was a figure of speech. And no, this does not benefit me. I can tell that you live in the internet and you have let certain talking points rule your mind. It does not benefit me for people to say balls or mankind, I can assure you it won't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:22 AM
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See what I mean? You sit on this website and get fired up by stuff like this, when there are so many other things to be concerned about. This is what redditors do, no wonder this site and it's users are seen as such annoying weirdos by other internet people. I have no issue if we say women have balls, but it has to be a figure of speech, because they don't actually have balls. Which is why I said balls(guts) the way I did. Can you ever see people saying "wow, that individual there has a lot of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:35 AM
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No, this is just you and other redditors being autistic. People say "that takes balls" as a common figure of speech in real life, and you know that as a fact. Ovaries are guts so you could say that. But I've also heard women use the term 'balls' when referring to themselves and their own acts of bravery. There is really no issue here one way or the other. This is a website where people go to grind their axes on the most inconsequential of societal 'issues' because they have nothing else to worry…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 09:37 AM
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Thankfully, NAWALT. But, what I'm talking about here is still a thing in western culture that women get away with, and men are often only blamed for this type of behavior. It's nasty and disgusting stuff - nobody should be doing it. As for the oppressed thing, you said that it's justified for women to feel that they are oppressed if guys don't want them, that it's justified for them to link their shitty love/sex lives to political causes. Excusing women for all this bullshit only creates more de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 12:02 PM
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Why do redditors take common figures of speech so seriously and literally? You know what I mean. Have you ever been in a position where you had to step up to people and be nasty back so they fuck off, so they don't harm you? That takes balls (guts).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:58 AM
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I know because I've dealt with it myself and argued about it with multiple people on the internet. What a stupid question. I've already explained the disgusting mentalities, I'm not repeating myself. I do know that men show inclinations of violence and entitlement, but so do women and their defenders, it is just excused and swept under the rug. Women are not oppressed just because guys may not like them, and women have no right to do that which they accuse men of. Linking women not getting the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:49 PM
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No, it takes balls. Been there, done that, not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:46 PM
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You are trying to make excuses for the widespread and intense entitlement women feel, which manifests in different ways. Many people make excuses for it, it's a staple of western culture. I've talked to those guys you mentioned and very few ever showed any inclinations of violence or intensity. Granted, men often have entire universes in their minds we don't let out, but still. Not much to lose at that point. Everyone would be better off if women were held more accountable for their disgusting m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 10:05 PM
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Not just that. Also when slutty women and minority women complain that certain guys don't want them, then they link their causes to them being oppressed. How is that not entitlement? Then there are legions of guys out there who back them up, shaming other guys into accepting them. I've dealt with these people many times before, they're all disgusting weirdos. I don't understand how you don't think that women linking their loser lives to political causes is not entitlement. It's not 'disappointme…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:00 PM
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I am not hitching my ride to the manosphere here. Just calling a spade a spade. Feeling oppressed because attractive guys don't want you, attaching your loser situation to political causes, lobbying for sympathy so guys can be further shamed into wanting you, that's all entitlement. Just a more passive, slithery type.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:46 PM
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Women don't owe men anything, but people sure have an easy time forgetting the reverse. So if neither gender owes the other anything, that means that they have to earn it by merit, and the other side has to accept them. And if the other side doesn't accept them, then tough shit - but it's not that big of a deal anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:35 PM
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Women don't have the balls (guts) to shoot up schools, but still, I guess you deserve credit for that. Women still lash out in rage when guys don't want them, I've seen it and experienced it. That is female entitlement. And yes, women constantly complain online that guys don't want them, and they attach their 'cause' to other social causes. Not only do women hate certain men for not wanting them, they even attach their lackluster love lives to political issues!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:30 PM
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But women have a tendency to blame erroneous things such as 'beauty standards' (among a plethora of other scapegoats) when the guys they want don't want them. Men having such low standards is part of the reason why many women are so awful. Then, when those women come across the rare guy with standards and a backbone, women have a hard time processing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:22 PM
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Women do not deserve any guy just because they exist. Women also lash out when they are ignored, rejected and so on. My indicator of entitlement when it comes to women is how much they complain about not being chosen, especially when they think that them not being chosen as a result of their actions/character is akin to oppression. So yeah, women don't have any leg to stand on when it comes to this, men don't owe women anything and men can reject/ignore women on any basis. Women who scream into …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 08:20 PM
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It's a reflection of the fact that men have atrociously low standards for women, despite what the internet says otherwise. It wouldn't kill men to have some god damn standards in women, holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 03:27 PM
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Many women today are repulsing these supposed "good guys" away from them because of inflated standards most women have I don't doubt that for a second, even though nobody is perfect and even the good guys have flaws. But the thing is, is that people tend to not want to blame women for anything, and people think women are oppressed if men don't want them. So it's awful to think of how things are going to get more nasty in this regard. I still remember feeling so shocked when I found out that peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 07:38 PM
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you have to modify your demeanor to overcome a number of girls who will act bitchy because they think you are out of their league or imagine that you are arrogant or unapproachable or stuck up It's so sad how women can act like this and their behavior is excused in a multitude of ways. Guys doing the same thing would be considered entitlement and probably harassment and abuse as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 11:55 AM
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The west will never stop holding men to expectations that are gendered in nature. All that will happen is perhaps men will get frustrated and opt out, but if you look at the sheer amount of shaming and bitching directed at men, even if you cut it off at the last 10 years, it's enormous. So lifting is something that can help even the most destitute of men. Trust me. I know these things. It satisfies this selfish urge people, especially women, have to see men conform to certain ideals. And I do fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:24 AM
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Thank you for saying this as a woman. Feminist talking points overpower everything; people really believe that being a male guarantees you will have things. But it really doesn't, and it's an uphill battle trying to convince people that it really, really doesn't work that way. Where I differ with you here is your contention that getting ripped is not a silver bullet. It sort of is. Not completely, but people really do change how they see how you almost completely when you work out and it shows. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 08:43 PM
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This is what women do. You are also entitled and bitter, you just get a free pass for it because vagina. I've already complained about women many times before. As for red pill guys, I always wonder whenever I see threads like this why you a)let the internet bother you and b)why you fail to take into account the awful nasty behavior of women towards men. You don't have to let what anybody says on the internet define you, but I know you will not listen to this advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:44 AM
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That's usually how it is, women are just sheltered from this type of criticism. The women who abuse guys online, the women who complain about male this and male that, they're usually just bitter because cute guys don't want them. It's an open secret that nobody wants to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:34 AM
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I'd like to be appreciated for my attributes. I want it to be genuine and not phony. I don't want over-the-top gushy praise just because I'm a man. But I also don't want to be blamed for things I have nothing to do with just because I'm a man. People often do that to men and it's very unfair. I have no problem being appreciated for my attributes by people who I like. I get a thrill out of proceeding despite the difficulties, out of seeing the good in life, from climbing that mountain of life one…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 05:09 PM
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Acceptance is probably right down the street from you working at the gas station of popeyes. Other people are lonely. Turn off the internet and go meet some actual people. Very strange comments. I don't endorse living in the internet, but a lot of people use it to hide from real life due to bad experiences and I sympathize with then. The thing about porn is that it reflects the perversion of a "liberated" society. Also, reddit and other online entities have echoed the opinion in unison before th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 08:48 PM
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I really like it when women aren't cunts. I despise when women have an entitled attitude, and I also hate it when women mistreat men because they know that women will always be seen as the victims first and foremost. I take women as a total package sort of deal, I can work with a lot, it's not what I like, but more what I don't like. Vibes are also important to me, and women who give off nasty vibes are no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 04:00 PM
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I meant to say that it's a major one for men, but I said me instead, which was also correct. I'd just like to do it on my own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:55 PM
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It's out there. Being completely honest, I've adhered to it before, and there are times I have not. It's not the only reason to improve, but it's a major one for me. If it's the only thing you aspire to, though, you will crash and burn badly if/when you are not as successful as you'd like to be. The more reasons you have to "improve" yourself, the more dynamic your life is. Make a list and see what you come up with, it will say a lot about your mind and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:37 PM
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It's being unconfident, not acting unconfident. I can speak from personal experience and knowing some of these guys that they are not bad guys, they are just unfairly judged because everyone expects certain things out of men and never stop bitching when men don't deliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:24 PM
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I have noticed that people seem to have some sort of a problem when men are either unconfident or even if they are pragmatic/diplomatic. Boys and men realize early on that being entitled and being an arrogant ass works, people like it, so that's what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:51 PM
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Yes. Men absolutely get more respect from society if we work out and put effort into our appearances. I see a lot of stupid people insist otherwise, but I know for an absolute fact they are wrong. I have a soft spot for guys who struggle with life. Especially younger guys. You have to take initiative, take the first step, to climbing that mountain. It's your life and only you can do it. You have to do whatever it takes, and even if you fail 99 times, as long as you succeed the 100th, you will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:17 AM
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We're going to burn it all down. This has been forecasted before. Lets just hope the weather is right one of these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 02:45 PM
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Incredibly entitled ideas that have already been raging, it's just that people are too embarrassed to even acknowledge them. Whether it's the average person, or your typical internet weirdo. So whether it's the idea that all men have it easy and all women have it hard, or that white guys are oppressing different types of women by not dating them, or women are suffering because guys are not hot/fit/extroverted enough. Or maybe we need to divert more taxpayer money to X female issue of the day. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:12 PM
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That's their choice. I notice you have a habit of thinking the most cliche things that portray you and women and victims, then you go on reddit where you spew those talking points to oblivion because you know people here will kiss your ass for it. You don't have to follow instagram or Kardashians if you don't want to, and women online complain too much about other women not liking them. Boo hoo, not everyone will like you in life, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:28 AM
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Sure, but that's because guys are losers who can't set standards and are usually desperate. Women never stop complaining when their standards shrink, when the guys they want don't want them. The only difference here is that guys will pick up a gun and start shooting people, women will go online and start bitching that they are oppressed because white boys don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:25 AM
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Those women are horrible and are hiding huge personality flaws by pretending to be "one of the guys". Despite what reddit says, in western society, if you want to spit on tradition you are more than welcome to do so. This goes for men and women. In the case of women here, those women you are referring to are threatened by other women, they can't compete with them, and so to get easier access to guys they will act more boyish and they will slander normal women. It's disgusting behavior on many le…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:15 AM
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Range of choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:13 AM
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I support it. Women can choose whoever they want. So can men. There should be no disputing this, as far as I'm concerned. But, when it comes to the opposite, when it comes to men, particularly young white conservative-leaning men, I have seen myself many times how outraged people get when that demographic will not date certain types of women. There is an outrage and an uproar, people go so far as to say that the women that those men don't want are oppressed, especially since white guys don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 09:47 AM
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Many women are like this. They want an attractive conservative (white) man and they subliminally (or explicitly) think they are oppressed because they can't get a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:49 PM
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I have been condemned for thinking this way before. That I don't like the idea of meeting random chicks, women only matter to me if I have a context to meet them, and then a connection is formed, and then I like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:46 AM
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I don't think so. Do you know how many times I've argued with all types of people on the internet, and the whole 'man up' thing was tied to either me having a family or me just banging all sorts of chicks? Male sexuality is tied to being a man. It defines us in many ways, many men are just too stupid to realize it and women see how blind all those men are and further manipulate them. I'm trying to avoid using the internet and 'society' interchangeably, but people in real life seem to think the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 03:14 PM
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I have a similar mentality - that I only really feel like connecting with people I like. I feel no desire to change myself to suit the exact desires of legions of people who I will never see. The people I like, they mean more in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 03:09 PM
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You are one of the very few people who understand how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 11:12 AM
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Reddit (and some other awful internet entities) does not appreciate the prospect of men having standards. If you want to complain about men having standards, reddit is one of the main places you can go to and people will be waiting there to complain alongside you. I have seen in no uncertain terms, guys complaining about the male versions of what you are, and they are basically treated like fucking shit in response. Nobody cares because they're undesirable men, but still. I'm not sure what you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 10:19 PM
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It's very basic from what I can see in many aspects. Women on the internet just complain about men's alleged high standards because they know there will be an echo chamber there waiting for them. Like someone else said, in certain aspects it's the case that if a woman wants a good man, then she has to be a good quality woman, and that's exactly the way it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 05:11 PM
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Probably not. This is a very accurate comment. Either hope and pray that you find a rare woman who is accepting of you, or bite the bullet and just live your life how you've been living it up to this point. The issue here would be that guys define themselves by this singular aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 04:47 PM
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Perhaps. That's not the case for every single guy though. But often times, it all comes in a total package of misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 04:45 PM
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Neither women or men who complain about lack of attention are legitimate victims, the only difference is that women are actually seen as legitimate victims and not really called out on their stupid bullshit. I will never understand why so many people whine and cry for women who can't get noticed by cute guys. Holy shit, get over it, the world is full of real problems and that isn't one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 03:00 AM
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It doesn't help matters when guys are criticized for being 'entitled' but women are seen as oppressed victims for expressing similar sentiments. The internet has ruined everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:58 AM
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I don't know about that brah. I think you're correct on face value, but I've seen lots of types of women with attractive guys, and plenty of women complain online about guys not noticing them or liking them or smiling at them or whatever. Believe me, they do complain, a lot. But are there lots of genuinely lonely, depressed women, who are not just spoiled whiners wanting a handout? Unfortunately, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:04 AM
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People don't realize how hard it is for guys who struggle, or who never launched to begin with. Men that have problems socially, problems with the world, often sink into a metaphorical black hole and nobody can see you there. But don't mind me. All men have it easy, and the patriarchy guarantees this. Reddit taught me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 12:54 AM
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Lots of young women get plenty of attention from all sorts of guys, including attractive guys. Just because women on reddit don't get that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've been criticized about my body before, I know how it feels, but now I am a machine consisting of muscle and power. So you have the power to change things and chart your own course, instead of complaining that other people want certain things out of you. It's difficult for men and women to get decent relationships, but reddi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 10:52 PM
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Yes, but redditors tend to be crystal clear in their very strange ideas about how society should function. Perhaps it's because the circlejerk nature and atmosphere of the website allows for it to flourish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:00 PM
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I've seen it on this website and subreddit for years. I think it's pathetic when women do it, sure it's pathetic when men do it too but when men do it they face almost 100 percent more condemnation for their entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 11:41 PM
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Why are redditors obsessed with the opinions of certain men out there, and then they use those opinions of those certain men as proof that women are victims because guys won't date X type of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:03 PM
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The only refutations I see to OP's points are multiple people claiming women have it hard because the guys they want don't want them. Thanks reddit, for yet another pity party circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 08:00 PM
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Yes. I have seen it many times. Part of it is legitimate criticism and part of it is slandering other men so they can look better in comparison. What really stuck with me is the "most men are not your friends" bit I saw, which of course is true, and a refreshing change from the constant mythological bullshit I see about how men are a united patriarchal force and we all get along with each other in our quest to oppress the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:30 PM
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They'll be nasty weirdos on the internet and some of that will seep into their conduct in real life. I've seen it for years. The thing is, is that we live in a virtual world now to a certain degree, and the people I'm talking about tend to see themselves and women as victims, and they think they are standing up to oppressive traditional societal norms. I mean, logically, you'd tell these people to shut the fuck up and get over themselves, and that's doing it the nice way. I don't understand why …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 11:40 PM
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Sure, but then people start complaining that women are oppressed because guys aren't paying attention to them. That has been an idea on the internet for the past ~6 years now, give or take, and it's not even being used as a meme or a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:30 PM
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Regarding western society, the thing is, is that generations have been ruined by victim mentalities and extreme entitlement. You see it all over the internet, including the shithole website known as reddit. People want to be victims and feel oppressed because it gives them a perverted sense of power. They don't realize that in order for them to get things handed to them, someone else has to work hard so their goodies keep rolling in. I sympathize with incels to a certain degree even though incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 11:03 PM
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You've asked this before and I explained everything adequately to you. If you're not getting what you want out of life, keep trying, find a way, any way. Or give up. Reddit is full of losers (women losers too) who need to find reasons to explain away why they can't get what they want. So they circlejerk with other people and think that all the posts and upvotes and gold and whatever else this retarded website has to offer will make things better. You specifically and other women don't have to gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 11:39 PM
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You'll find out one day that these labels are pointless. Women feel entitled to attractive guys, we just don't call them out on it or insult them for it because they're women. By the way, run as fast as you can if you encounter a woman who starts defining herself by labels and then using them to point out that she's different from other women. Those women are awful and will burn you later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 06:34 PM
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Well, take a look at the recent comments in this thread. More reinforcement of common talking points, with themes of "men aren't real men anymore" and "women have it so hard" sprinkled on top. I wonder what these people think they're accomplishing. I wonder if it's because the people I oppose online are such salty weirdos, or if it's because the western psyche has been so polluted, but it shouldn't ruffle so many feathers to point out that the west is full of hypocritical self-serving attitudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 06:28 PM
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In totality, no. But they do have influences to a certain degree. Same with that awful website the other guy who just replied to you mentioned. It causes problems when such nasty messages are broadcasted out to the world on behalf of one group in an offensive nature to another group. Men just keep taking it though, so it's like kicking a weak tired animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 07:35 PM
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I don't want to focus on me, but I'm just pointing out the widespread hypocrisy prevalent in these discussions. It's have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too western society hypocrisy and entitlement. Now, as for me, nothing except death will stop me from hacking away at my goals. Some times I achieve things in one go, sometimes a few, other times it takes me years and years. But what I want out of my life is an individualist type of scenario I see myself on and not a journey where I serve other people's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:56 PM
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Just people bitching about nothing That's reddit. Just throw in collective whining and circlejerking about non-existent societal oppression narratives and there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 01:12 PM
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I never said women should lower their standards, redditors just like getting hysterical for no reason when it suits them. Drawing incorrect conclusions to validate their narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 02:31 PM
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It depends. These days I have a good personal network of people I can talk to and hang around with. Part of that network is a closer inner circle of mine and I can talk to them about basically anything. I've always been a mix of emotional/feely and intense/somewhat stoic. At this point I'm not looking to point the finger at anybody, just don't kick me when I'm down. I have a good network of people going and maybe I'll add to it if I meet some more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 11:09 PM
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It entirely depends on the two individuals and how they function. There's a lot of whining and circlejerking in this thread, just reddit doing it's thing, but people owe it to themselves to not be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 04:49 PM
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I don't think so. People need to struggle and fight with life. Everyone, especially women in this context, want top-tier results unfurled before them like a red carpet and then they get mad at others when life doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 01:03 PM
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In the context of this sub and the internet, it means that a man who doesn't get what he wants still wants it and how dare he. Plenty of men and women are entitled and it's just seen as a part of the social fabric without question. Women get a huge break with this and people often speak on their behalf, or they speak for themselves, about how oppressed they are because they don't get X type of guy or X treatment from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 01:02 PM
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This thread and it's comments remind me of the "just man up and opt in" ideas so prevalent on the internet aimed at men. Certain people are just not meant to click, get along, connect, and so forth. Trying to lay this all at the feet of hormones is a bit ridiculous to me. You can't just increase test and then all of a sudden men are going to become these "real men" packages for women. Doesn't work that way, thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 05:28 PM
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Are you fucking kidding? Lots and lots of women "struggle" with dating and linger the dredges of the internet and let their bitterness be known. They're just statistically far less likely to pick up a fucking gun and start shooting people. But yes, they are upset that attractive young guys don't want them. This is an underrated fact about women, I know for a fact that they experience a type of bitterness of their own when the guys they want don't want them. There is no urge on anybody's part to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 12:27 AM
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You're already taking the wrong approach. Western society does not care about these types of males issues and the masses actively have some sort of visceral bitterness towards men who talk about them and suffer from them. All you can do is worry about yourself and maybe a few other select people and watch the fallout occur. Yes, people are stupid and will endlessly complain about guys not manning up, guys opting out, women being victims because guys aren't paying attention to them, all you can d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 05:50 PM
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It's tough for guys who can't get any and great for guys who can. It's your choice. You decide what you want to do, any way it goes. Internet discussions usually don't help. You either keep trying or give up. For what it's worth, though, I know what it's like to be in your position, which is why I recommend not asking internet communities these types of questions, because a lot of people just get this primal hatred activated in them and they'll spew it at you. Not everybody is like that, but eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 01:39 AM
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No, because I am who I am. Women do have their own struggles, and I find that the internet perhaps inadvertently makes a mockery of them. I've seen women struggle and survive through some nasty stuff, all of which has nothing to do with them being "oppressed" because some cute young guy wouldn't pay attention to them. Modern talking points make it seem like all men have great lives and all women are suffering, and I can absolutely assure you that is not true, but reddit is a self-pitying circlej…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 02:54 PM
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Assuming we have the option, I'll pass. No point destroying other people's lives, possibly kids too, because I can't keep it in my pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:39 PM
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Yeah, I don't have elaborate stories like yours because I have a cunt detector radar that helps me avoid women like that. But, women that can't get guys for whatever reason just come across a certain way and I can pick up on it. Also, there have been times where women have been nasty to me when I have not wanted to reciprocate with them, it's just that the internet doesn't like talking about that aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:46 AM
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Reddit is a horrible website, but I've been around online enough to see so many things change but remain the same. There's a reason why so many people just refuse to use reddit. It shouldn't surprise anybody that a website that has the type of user base reddit has would target any content that it's users disagree with. It's par for the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:23 AM
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Reddit is full of people who are completely socially unaware, with next to no idea of how the real world functions. That's why they spew these talking points without question, and then get extra pretentious when they are called out on their bullshit. Just because someone spews feminist talking points and ideas, doesn't mean they are correct or exempt from criticism. Especially when those talking points and ideas are incorrect. I would just love it if all the problems strangers gave me in public …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 08:21 AM
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The amount of self-pity on this site is unbelievable. Have you ever thought that maybe they just don't hit their stride until later on? Different women, different situations. I encourage you to think beyond the "waaaaah, society no like women having sex!" reddit circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:20 AM
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Well, I notice that the "all men have it easy" idea tends to have access to women lumped into it. I have seen it so many times I want to punch everyone who spews that idea in the face. Guys dig their own graves here, as males do consider access to women as some sort of a barometer of how good their lives are. But other people also definitely use that to measure how good males have it too. The disaffected men online are a vastly diverse bunch, but lets not deny the fact that certain guys really j…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:26 AM
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All you have is your word and that doesn't mean much. I get it, you're inspired by the internet talking points that all men have it easy, but there are certain guys out there that are just screwed by life. Unfortunately, the idea that all males and privileged and that all males have it easy blind people to their suffering. But most people on the internet seem to think they are for some reason I have seen the exact opposite over and over again. Most people claim that these guys are privileged and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:13 AM
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I don't expect sympathy from women on the internet. I expect the usual bullshit, that we live in a prude traditional society, women are victims, men are privileged, so man up and stop ignoring those women! The usual talking points most people spew without question. I don't want or need sympathy from anybody. Life is nasty, many people have gone through severe struggles since the beginning of time itself. I keep going. Despite the hardships. Reddit tends to be full of whiny losers who blame every…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 10:02 AM
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Reddit circlejerking aside, there are plenty of guys who just aren't liked by women. That's the truth whether anybody likes it or not. Also, there is no traditional society of guys rejecting women and hurting their feelings. That's a very worn out internet trope that is pure fantasy and is used to further portray women as the victims they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 05:05 AM
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It's not just about that. Men are inclined to fight with each other in many ways. Redditors and feminists and stupid internet people can swear up and down that's not the case, but it is. People also lack understanding of how general messages work. Masses of people can embrace a message even if they don't realize it. So people keep hearing the same talking points over and over and their mental resistance breaks down and they accept it as fact whether they realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:24 AM
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Well, I'm not sure why the west prides itself on equality yet women are so sheltered from criticism, especially the more nasty women who abuse people and then hide behind any protection they can. Many such cases! I'm not under the delusion that all men and boys have it hard. In fact, as more men opt out and western society becomes more disgusting, the men and boys that are visible in public will be treated better and better. I already see it happening. The real red pill here is that women enable…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 01:54 AM
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Western society is trash and has a male-hating element to it that ebbs and flows, but lets not pretend that plenty of boys and men don't have it great, because they do. This is something women will always run from. The fact that they shit on certain guys while exalting others. Women are extreme contributors to what they erroneously refer to as 'male privilege'. It's been in-vogue for the past long while to single out certain guys and attack them with feminist jargon, and everyone knows that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 01:44 AM
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People are obsessed with young men being social (or not being social rather), but my golden ticket was working out. I then noticed that by default I didn't have to do the stupid things the internet said. I could just exist and people would 'like' me. My stumblings turned into funny quirks instead of yet more proof that 'men these days' are anti-social weirdos. If people like you and respect you as a man, you can do anything. You have it made. The whole experiment opened my eyes to how shallow an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 10:09 PM
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Also, perhaps reddit and pretty much all of western society should stop pretending all men are privileged kings if we go by your logic. You're correct, certain men are not meant for it. Not every guy that exists is going to live in glory and privilege and all that. That's a feminist lie that's further perpetuated by guys who have it easy, and they can't think outside their thick skulls, so they think all guys must have an amazing life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:38 AM
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This is the only place I know that actually hates men for not being assholes That's quite a way to phrase it. But still. You must not have much to do with people in general. Not everyone is like that, but it's quite a strong pervasive element in western culture. This is not the only place, holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 11:40 PM
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Are you trying to imply that women don't obsess about men? They do. Not all of them all of the time. But take this one website. Every single millisecond reddit exists, it's used as a soap box echo chamber for women who are bitter that they're not getting enough attention from the cute guys they feel they deserve. And redditors get some sort of neurological orgasm telling women that men are awful and women can do no wrong. It's pathetic, but nobody calls them out on it because they're women. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 01:00 AM
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The western world has a certain nastyness to it that no other society has regarding men and women. Young men can feel this nasty pressure and it can turn them away from the public. But since people never shut the fuck up about men opting out of society, I'm not sure if cut off is the right term, since that implies it was intentional. People whine all day long about the lack of men around these days, but the conclusions reached in most conversations are that men are awful and too privileged, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 06:55 PM
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It's true to a certain degree. I have experienced what nasty cunts feminists can be, how nasty and evil women can be, but we can't forget about men and the way they are, either. Like someone once told me, it's not that women are necessarily the problem, but rather, people are. Western society does give women a huge break though. This is where reddit is consistently wrong. There is no traditional patriarchy bearing down on women and being mean to them and restricting their behavior. Women are 'li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 05:18 PM
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Might makes right. You're asking this question in a scenario where women have the choice. Many males over the time humanity has existed have been subjugated in some way. Harmed, exploited. Everything nasty under the sun. I'm saying this in a factual way, not a boohoo poor men way. In a real patriarchy, women would have no say, they'd just have to shut up and go with things. There would be no reddit either to spite all those guys that don't pay attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 07:15 PM
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Reddit thinks that the west is more conservative than it is, but as a guy who has a bad streak of luck with everything, I will say that we can't blame sexual liberation for everything. We also have to take responsibility for ourselves. But, there is absolutely a case to be made that everything western society has embraced is not necessarily positive for women and girls. Or men and boys for that matter. I don't think it's a good situation at all. You have a society that has an angst towards the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 06:12 PM
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He's an idiot. Someone needs to tell that guy that some men are just not liked by women, economics and politics be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:05 PM
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There is no point trying to organize this into the types of discussions like this one entail. Certain men are not wanted by women, trying to bring down capitalism or getting those guys to embrace X piece of reddit advice won't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:04 PM
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It's a fool's errand to try to use something like economics to try to explain away the fact that certain elements of men are flatly unwanted by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:33 PM
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Women are online dating, they're just not choosing us LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:08 PM
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That would be great, many people would say. But this is just the way it is. I sympathize with the guys who are soft and therefore crippled by it, but there seems to be no middle ground for them to jump to. The guys that don't fit any categories we're talking about are in a different paradigm. We can help fix this situation by encouraging a decent middle ground while rejecting the idea that men need to turbocharge themselves to near-death capacity just to be liked by women and/or the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 03:05 AM
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Feel free to fry me for saying this, but I'm aware of the backlash I've seen when men are not sexually assertive. People just can't get over it. Many different types of people can rally behind this topic as a way to unite together and bash men. It's an activity the whole family can enjoy. Sexual assault is a horrible thing, but what happens when you try to get men to be softer (?) is you get masses of men that are too soft. Or at least that's what the internet screams about. You can say that oh,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:32 AM
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The internet is full of really stupid people who think that the headline 'people having less sex' means that society is becoming more anti-sex and pro-traditional. Reddit has a high concentration of these really stupid people I'm referring to. What's really going on here is that male incels are on the rise while a sharper concentration of men are getting more women to themselves. I'm not sure what to do about it. Going to the gym so women can like you is a tiring task. Guys all feel entitled on …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 08:47 PM
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This is a good question and the answer is that both are important, in the right environments. The halo effect means people always like attractive people. But I have seen myself, people getting frustrated with attractive people because when they need to perform they are useless. I have also seen attractive people be useless but people give them a break because they are attractive. Also, I have seen non-attractive people climb their way up the mountain and earn respect by their performance. Perfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:10 PM
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Women in porn are not oppressed by society and there is no reason that guys have to accept them for dating and sex. Guys have every right to not want those women as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:50 AM
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She'll go on reddit and whine about it and get lots of upvotes and have commenters slamming their keyboards about how traditional and conservative society is, in their opinion. Many such cases!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:49 AM
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We're not talking about that. Minority women are not oppressed in western society just because white guys don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 10:48 AM
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The most beautiful women generally have the worst personalities No.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:38 AM
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Give the story. And on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most oppressed, how do you think guys will react to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:02 PM
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We have no reason to communicate. It does not matter to me if you were part of the minority woman quota that got your white guy. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:01 PM
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There is no reason for you to tell me this. It's still pathetic how minority women are seen as victims if white guys don't want them. You did not need to reply to me with your life story, but congratulations on fulfilling your quota.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 03:06 PM
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Yes. The internet also told me that minority women are oppressed because not enough white guys want them, and white guys don't pay enough attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 07:29 PM
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Oh boy, here comes reddit again for the 37.24 billionth time, claiming that women in porn are oppressed because guys won't date them!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 04:15 PM
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I’m wondering if it’s because men judge women more harshly now. lol! I can see how you think that as a redditor. But if anything men need to judge women more harshly, but they won't. You made women out to be victims because you framed it as women not being able to get guys because guys don't want them because the women don't measure up to the guy's expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:43 AM
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No offense to you, OP, but you are really off target here. You're making women out to be victims they're not and you're giving men power a lot of us do not have. Other commenters here do this very often too. It's like, a MGTOW fantasy, wrapped in a feminist delusion, sprinkled with reddit seasoning and then seared in western society garbage. There is no society in which men are actively punishing "average" women or any women by denying them attention and relationships and even sex because they d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 12:33 AM
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This sub has no shortage of female losers who whine about men and you prove that quite well. But to be fair, the internet is like that in general. It's a radical concept, one that many don't even want to touch, but women are not sinless angels and when any woman has a problem with men in their life, they almost always contribute to it in some way. If you can't find some attractive guy to swoon you, that's really just too bad so sad. Better luck next time!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 10:50 AM
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Another thread complaining about "men these days", I see. All this confusion and bitterness is what happens when you have a civilization that prides itself on giving a middle finger to the past, meanwhile said civilization also desperately needs men who behaved ala "the past" to maintain civilization and keep people happy. This is why even in the most leftist feminist gender criticial online spaces (hello, reddit) you'll have people bitching about the lack of "real men" and hardly anybody even s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 08:42 PM
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These threads and their replies always make the assumption that all the many many women that have been in porn over all the decades are persecuted by some conservative patriarchy. It's like some movie narrative they set up. Those women choose to go do that. Reddit honestly has a weird hang-up about this topic, if men don't want anything to do with those women, it's not oppression or whatever, it's those men deciding on a personal basis that they'd rather not be with women like that. I see no evi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 03:36 PM
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Badoo insists that I have facial features in common with middle easterners. No matter what pictures I use over the years. Either they like stirring things up or they have one of the most accurate facial comparison technology systems in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:55 PM
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Tinder feels like gluttony because of how easy it is to get sex Heh, yeah... easy. It's just like, so easy!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:53 PM
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Keep in mind that you're asking this on Reddit which has a habit of taking the most ridiculous left-wing talking points and exaggerating them and repeating them to a sickening degree. Western society is the only entity for lack of a better term on the planet that hosts what you describe, it's the only entity that allows feminism and everything it entails to exist and thrive. You didn't even touch on the basics to be honest. People have certain narratives in their heads and they spew them like ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 03:58 PM
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I'm not an advocate of forcing kids out of the house just so the girls who get no boy attention finally get their cut. Ultimately, it's up to the parents on how they will raise their kid(s).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:11 PM
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Oh look, another PPD pity party. The same users circlejerking in this thread are the same ones who dial up the intensity and start getting all critical when it comes to disaffected boys/men and their place in society. They don't want to admit for the life of them that their worldviews are incorrect and that just because you were born with a dick doesn't mean everything will be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:41 PM
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Of course they do. I've experienced it myself. Women, when they can't get men, become bitter cunts and have loser mentalities. You see this on reddit all the time, where women either make direct elaborate or peppered passive aggressive posts where they blame (white) men because those guys wanted the hot blonde Stacy and not them. The only reason women aren't called out on their bullshit as much is because they're women, but it's despicable. It's despicable to let them run around spewing their an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:39 PM
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Men want to be respected and they don't want to be disrespected. Very simple. As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I immediately thought that posters in here were going to start making stupid posts about how men are patriarchal and don't want women to smile and be expressive, and then I clicked on the thread, and I was proven right. It doesn't matter if everyone here is wrong, as long as they spew the same bullshit day in day out, that's what counts. The tragedy about all this is that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:33 PM
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Yeah. It's crazy stuff, man. Some other guy in this thread even confirmed what I said, not that he needed to. If people want to complain about 'racism', in this context I think they should look in the mirror and see who the real racists are. It's them, towards themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 01:39 PM
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Brown people are trying to count themselves as white now. As in officially white. I see this shilled on certain sites and sometimes people talk about it in real life. They also use skin whitening cream, but that is nothing new. I think the reason for this is simple, and it's deception. If all these brown people are all of a sudden 'white', it makes the rapid decline of white people look non-existent. It even adds hundreds of millions of people to 'white people' ranks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 07:10 PM
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Yes. But even the pro-women people sometimes do not want to admit this, preferring to see sex as some sort of cosmic empowering voodoo bullshit thing. Men want to fuck, men want to be wanted, bonus points if the women are hot. Nothing else to it, holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 07:08 PM
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Yeah. The internet hosts a lot of degeneracy, I know people don't want it gone, in fact a lot of people are addicted to it, so it would help lots of people if we had someone teach them a more pragmatic usage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:20 AM
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Nothing against brown people there, sailor. I just think it's confusing and pathetic that so many brown folk are now trying to be white and a lot of people are circlejerking over this new trendy idea. I would tell all these people to be proud of who and what they are instead of trying to be something they're not, but in this day and age those words would be absolutely lost on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:14 AM
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With the amount of brown people these days trying to be 'white', I can't help but call bullshit on the official statistics regarding race in the U.S. The actual amount of white Americans in the U.S. must be around 30-40 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 11:06 AM
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Our lives are so boring that we talk in long dead threads. But my point was that just because certain guys may not want to date certain women, that doesn't mean that those certain women are prohibited from doing the things they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 06:27 PM
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It can mean many things. At first it usually means that those women display bitchy signals that guys are repulsed by on a visceral level. Internet postings complaining that guys react that way won't change anything. These women often think they can solve this conundrum by going on the internet and trying to shame guys into being higher value, but again, that's the wrong approach. These women need to be reminded that nobody owes them anything (sound familiar?) and that not everybody is meant to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 01:07 AM
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I can absolutely assure you that women who check out men in public are not something unique nor is it any indicator of if they actually 'love men' or not. It's just women indulging in their attraction to certain guys. You should always look at how a woman behaves rather than the platitudes she spews and the posturing she uses. Only a fool would think that a woman who checks out men in public is some pro-male advocate. That's not how any of this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 03:01 AM
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You think you speak for a general audience because you're on reddit and redditors almost all live in a bubble. You don't speak for all men and neither do I. But a large sector of guys just love pumping and dumping, as they say, to a large degree. If women didn't put out so fucking easily for those guys, the dynamic would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 09:19 PM
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That is usually not correct. Maybe you are that way, but lots and lots of guys are the other way. I would have been that way myself if I had more opportunities to be that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:51 AM
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If women on reddit didn't complain about that issue, in the clueless way they did, I wouldn't have said what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:50 AM
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That's the way reddit is. You have to specifically point out that you don't think that way or else you get lumped in with the pile, because there are men and women, leftists and conservatives, on this site who think in such cringey trope ways that have nothing to do with reality. Reddit is the home and HQ of the internet where people whine about some conservative patriarchy that is out to get them, even though it doesn't exist in the west. But anyway, yeah, I gave you the answer. Any internet ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:05 PM
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Is reddit really this... clueless? No, this is not proof that some patriarchy is oppressing you via the men you see in public. The guys don't call back because they got what they wanted, easily, and that's all that they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:47 PM
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I would say that you should have seen me years ago but I'm still intense now, just in a different sense. But anyway, reddit is stupid, and Keanu Reeves is smart. He also benefits highly from this. As you said, he's being praised. This gives him very good press as we have seen lately. His image will benefit from this highly. I wouldn't have a problem with women getting touchy feely with me if I liked them and got good vibes. In fact that sounds awesome and I want more of that everyday. But if I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:27 AM
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I don't know and I don't care. I can always leave it to reddit to circlejerk about how everything is puritanical/conservative/patriarchal/whatever just because not everybody wants to embrace full-on degeneracy. Look at all the people whining in this thread just because a smart guy is taking steps to protect himself. Redditors should go outside and stop thinking that some conservative boogeyman is out to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 09:19 PM
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Are we becoming an absurdly touch phobic, boundary obsessed culture ? I can always depend on reddit to barf out such weird, asinine statements. That sentence is so reddit I can't even describe it in words. No, we are not. Western society is the complete opposite of that. What you are seeing with Keanu Reeves specifically is that he is being smart. He is a thinking individual, he's aware of social trends and he doesn't want to get sued for all his money because he touched some chick in a photo. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 08:12 PM
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You silly guy. You are correct to a certain degree, but what western society refuses to acknowledge is that men are very nasty to each other. Dumb redditors actually think there is a male in-group preference and some sort of conspiracy to oppress women that most of us (except the Enlightened Male Feminists Who Are Not Like The Other Guys!) are in on. Try telling these delusional weirdos the truth and they just can't accept it. You are absolutely correct about society collapsing. Right now, despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 02:16 PM
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Are you kidding me? Men would fucking love it. Most of our competition wiped out, and the women would be eager to please us. Every guy could have multiple women to himself. Men would be catered to and considered the more valuable sex. That would be incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 09:46 PM
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I wonder if you are correct or if these are just internet talking points. I've journied the internet talking about this issue, lots of people say what you do but lots and lots more act oblivious, saying these points are wrong, that men are not checking out, that everything is normal. We live in a time where you can't really tell who is telling the truth and who is lying even about issues like this which you'd think would be concrete in nature and in answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:52 PM
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That's the exact same thing as saying that Chad gets all the women, even though plenty of guys who don't fit that mold have it really good. That's also like me saying life is not fair because I've been treated much better by everyone ever since getting into amazing shape. Plenty of women who don't fit the conventional mold we are talking about get cock, relationships and respect. Just because reddit says they don't doesn't mean reddit is right, because reddit usually is wrong about almost everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 04:45 PM
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That's a generalization that arises out of bitterness. Men and women have their own hierarchies, but plenty of women who aren't blonde and/or white still get good treatment and good prospects. The women (or men) who go online and say the things you do usually have some chip on their shoulder. Women won't admit it directly, but they feel entitled to have more access to cute young white guys, and when they can't get it, out comes the whining and theories of persecution and oppression and this and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 06:06 PM
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Men do have a wide variety of tastes in women, the women on reddit and other websites that complain about men always, and I mean always, tend to have some sort of personality flaw that makes them cunts. They spit out all these talking points about this and that, seemingly oblivious to the fact that real life and how guys approve of them in a sexual/romantic context is much different than them going on the internet and complaining about a patriarchy oppressing them because guys don't want to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 10:18 AM
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I'm just working with what you give me, tiger. The best advice would be what they are doing right now. Contrary to what reddit thinks, women who are different from the white blonde conventionally attractive stereotype are not left behind by men. If I had a dollar for every androgynous chick I saw with a guy, I'd have a decent amount of money. That's just one example. Women don't have much to worry about since the male sex drive is still so strong, and men have a wide taste in women. Men are nowh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 10:19 PM
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Never going to happen. Women want cute young guys at any cost, even if it means applying ungodly levels of filters and lying about who they are to a sickening degree. Now, guys do that stuff too, but neither are in the right. Western society is obsessed with perfection and shallowness, people have too high standards for each other. I know this on a very personal level. It's just going to get worse as time goes on, people are so awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 09:15 PM
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I speak from experience. There's lots you can do to fight depression. Working out like a crazed animal is effective enough for lots of guys. Cold water also increases blood flow and adrenaline so it helps rip you out of your "woe is me" state of mind. Nobody here can go through all the bullet points of why this guy's life is bad and fix it for him. But getting in good shape is great for mental and physical health. Sulking on the internet is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 01:12 AM
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Yes you can. I was more depressed than you can even imagine at one point, you just powerhouse it. Destroy it. That's what men do. The world can go fuck itself. Nobody is going to go into his psyche and cure him, only he can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 01:10 AM
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lol. Yeah, just pointing out that crumblesnatch is completely wrong. I understand the stereotype of white women wearing them, but women of all backgrounds do, I've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:07 PM
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First of all, you have a gf, something a fair chunk of guys want but don't have. Second, you probably have a decent first world lifestyle. I'm not in your shoes and I don't want to discount your experiences, but you should be fine if you just go work out. And use cold water more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:06 PM
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That makes no sense at all. Nice strawwoman LMAO. Redditors hate when someone even merely points out their daily circlejerk talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 05:39 PM
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lol all types of young women wear leggings. Not just white women. It gets the attention of men quite easily. As my post can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 05:38 PM
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This is absolutely outrageous. First the thing you said about me not joking and then the part about me not being correct, which again, is something I've seen you do for a long time. Make these robotic short statements about people being wrong in a "no u" fashion. It doesn't matter if you deny that I've seen women go on huge tangents constantly on reddit. I have. And guess what? Lots of men complain in their favor too. The idea that women are oppressed because some chick can't get attention from …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:34 PM
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I'm not sure what the problem is here. Yes, there are guys who think that way. Due to the internet, you are aware they exist. Certain men have their own views on sex just like certain women have their own views on sex. Although I can understand how if you keep venting about something over and over, it turns into bitching. Especially if said people have it in their own power to correct/avoid the situation(s) they are complaining about. But the concept of certain men seeing sex in a certain way is…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 09:30 PM
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I'm just joking with my insult omfg. But you are quite delusional, you've done this for a long time, you specifically choose to ignore women and their entitled persecution complexes even though it shows up here and all over reddit 24/7. You denying it doesn't make it go away. And yes they are neurotic and insecure if they obsess over guys ignoring/rejecting them for their faults and then insisting that some conservative "society" is against them. That is borderline mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 04:48 PM
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No. Women on here and elsewhere complain all the time about guys judging them for "N count". It's seen as a feminist issue or some crap like that. Do guys also talk about it? Yes. That was already known before you made such a rude and asinine comment you stupid arsehole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:12 PM
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It never gets old for these people. Insecure neurotic reddit women constantly asking this question and then concluding that because there are certain guys out there that don't approve of their behavior (whether it has to do with promiscuity or not), the conclusion they reach is that there is some prude conservative patriarchy still oppressing them because guys, especially young cute guys, can still choose to reject/ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 11:46 AM
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Are you implying that I'm not a good host? Fuck you. I'll fight you right now. How dare you imply that. I'm a good host, as you can see. Interesting and constructive use of time on the internet As if most people that have ever used the internet used it in an interesting and constructive way LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:25 AM
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If my past observations are anything to go by, this sub should have a collective aneurysm due to your post sometime in the near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:23 AM
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The difference with that is that those guys are made fun for thinking that way. There is no significant social effort on their behalf; lots and lots of people are not putting energy into helping them on that basis, you get me? You understand? What a silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:54 PM
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It's in the recent threads for the past week holy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:53 PM
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You're replying to my thread. I have to reply. I'm like a host in a restaurant. Would you like it if a fucking host just guffawed at you if you said hi and asked for a table? Just went pffff and brushed you off and went and had a smoke? No, I don't think you'd like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:52 PM
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A recent example would be the kink thread. Just a bunch of posters going off about how women are oppressed because their bfs or the average guy on the street won't indulge in their kinks. I mean, holy shit. Reddit is full of weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:29 PM
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Yes. But women get a free pass. I'm just tired of seeing all these people promote this bullshit crap. Sooner or later that way of thinking is going to completely pollute the public sphere and you'll have the majority of women and girls walking around thinking they are victims because not enough guys (hot or not, but they want hot) are paying attention to them and shit. That woe is me sort of thinking will make everything worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:28 PM
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Yes, here. Other places on the internet too. But the thing is, is that guys often complain about the lack of good men too, so it's not just an issue of women complaining. It's based around the entitled idea that women exist to be wooed and that men should be shamed if we don't woo them. You can phrase it in many ways but you get the point. Like I told you before, the threads about 'men opting out' and 'people having less sex' are usually hotsprings for such activity. Just endless whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:26 PM
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Checkmate for what though? I still don't get it. PM me if you want to talk, otherwise stop spewing gibberish all over my thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:24 PM
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Yeah. I think they should keep that in mind when they vent about the lack of real men around these days and when they talk about men's experiences. They usually don't know what they're fucking talking about. But what makes it worse is all the men that side with them. How is it some random guy's problem on the internet because Becky Cuntington can't get the attention of the men she wants? It isn't anybody's fault or problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 01:20 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Checkmate what? Are we on some forum arguing about religion in the 2000s? You sound like a robot that is malfunctioning. You keep going on about strange things because you don't like that someone pointed out that there is a huge social expectation that men do various things for the approval of women. You could phrase it in different ways but you get the point. I know you're desperate for attention so you bumped my old thread, but you could have fucking p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 01:13 PM
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Really you had an overprotective parent and feel they sheltered you to the point that it was determential? This is a good point. People complaining that their parents sheltered them enough and that's the reason they can't get pussy or they can't get access to hot young guys. Boo fucking hoo, their parents aren't stopping them from getting that, how spoiled do people have to be if they blame their parents for their lives not being awesome enough. What a bunch of jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 11:48 AM
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Women don't know how to be men at all. Case in point, all the entitled young cunt women on the internet who complain generally about there being no "real men" around anymore, as well as the women who are so bitter they can't find a "real man" they take it out on other guys online and in public. They think in some twisted way they can "create" the "real men" they don't have access to in real life. Many such cases! It's not a mother's fault that, say, a guy ran off and doesn't want to take care of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 09:02 AM
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They do some stuff, yeah. But lots and lots of them just whine that men don't like them. Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:49 AM
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but The bias towards complain against women is largely dominant. The ratio might be off by 5% tbh. But again, it is way more easily measurable than ideas and trends you've been exposed too, because there are simply too many parameters that stops your experience from being reality You have no way of proving any of this, it's just your opinion and you're pulling it out of your ass. You seem offended that I'm pointing out that there is a large expectation on reddit, the internet and the greater wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:48 AM
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They're wrong. Those are the same people who advocate some ultra-social androgynous society and they also spend time on the internet complaining that men won't meet their standards. They are hypocrites. I don't think men struggle socially as much as we're made out to be, I think the problem is that a lot of women are just nasty and they think that guys don't have the right to judge them for it. Women cannot comprehend the possibility that maybe guys don't talk to them, or are skiddish when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:48 AM
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Yes, I can perceive this glow on lots of young women in public. I have a feeling they know they have this glow and so they bask in it. Some young men have it too, but not as much. I've seen attractive women without this glow, although it's rare, but you know what I mean. I think these people are aware that they have a limited time window and that the stars have aligned for them just right, and they are trying to take advantage of it. But seeing them I am also reminded of how easy first world lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 10:07 PM
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It seems to be a trend lately where reddit users respond to me with equal signs in the posts. When it comes to functionality, guys want hot women, yes, but women who are young tend to be youthful and full of life - I don't see how you can argue this. I dare you to do it. Bring it on. Especially with relationships, bubble headed women get stale fast. Reddit is wrong that guys don't want women with some life to them, a lot of us do, dynamic women are great. The women on reddit who say guys don't l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 07:22 PM
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What a waste of time, this is a total waste of time receiving this alert. Youthful and full of life = attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 02:35 PM
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Time always moves on. Best thing to do is not be bothered by it and find a way to stay in shape. I've seen certain internet people claim women are oppressed because time moves on and therefore they lose their youth, but again, time always moves on. Letting yourself go is not attractive but neither is a perpetual victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 10:32 AM
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Alright, lets be perfectly fucking honest here. Much of 'The Wall' is revenge fantasies by guys who didn't get the amount of sexual validation they wanted, so they salivate at the very idea of the tables turning one day in their favor (sort of). It's true that men tend to prefer young women, but that's because they are full of life (and naive), they are youthful (but also love casual sex with the right guy). Men who improve their looks and aim for younger women can take advantage of many factors…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 07:02 AM
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I hate to break it to you space cowboy, but the idea of improving men for women on a society-wide level is nothing new at all. People of all persuasions think women are victims if men don't improve themselves for women, even though men are constantly told that women don't owe them anything. Lots of people don't seem to notice this hypocrisy. The women that deserve a good man will find one. The entitled ones that complain they are oppressed because there are not enough decent men around can rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:51 AM
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The same applies to you, especially since you were the one to pull numbers and ratios out of your ass first. If people keep repeating the same talking points over and over, I will take those as general trends. It doesn't mean everyone agrees with them, it just means that the sentiments echo over and over. Of course I don't have data on it. I've even been in a lot of internet arguments where people tell me straight up that women are oppressed because guys aren't good enough anymore, I've seen oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 06:42 AM
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She's correct and there's no way to argue against her position. People confuse a very strong desire with a need. Two different things. Reddit exaggerates how much guys 'expect' sex, and it's often just a way for women to feel better about themselves by knocking guys who aren't getting any action. But guys also give women a lot of power and lots of reasons to complain the times they are indeed entitled to sex. They have to stop seeing life that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 04:28 PM
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How? I see guys being condemned for bitching about women and their standards while I see people of almost every different walk of life feeling sorry for women because guys aren't X way anymore (X being a certain way women want guys to be). There's definitely an idea out there that guys should accommodate women by existing and having certain traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:15 PM
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That's up for debate. The only difference I can see between the two is that one type of complaint is popularly supported while the other is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:42 AM
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If you go by reddit logic/mythology and how people think these days then yes they do exist. A lot of women whether they label themselves as femcel or not consider themselves victims and other people consider themselves victims if they can't get the guys they want. So it could be with a racial context (attractive white guys won't pay attention to the minority women) or it could be any other context (attractive guy couldn't be bothered/is too shy/thinks he's better than the woman in question/etc) …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:54 PM
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You're racist because you live in such a white city and you haven't sought out the blacks to befriend/date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 12:26 PM
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You're a racist LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 11:19 AM
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Oh look, another thread where redditors circlejerk about how awful men are because they won't date X type of woman. We actually live in a time where people think women are oppressed if guys won't date them or see them as sexual prospects. It's a bizarro world, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 11:04 AM
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Me. Just kidding. Although I have noticed a complete difference in how I am treated now that I am in amazing shape and I take more care of my appearance. Just picture your typical "real man" in the eyes of western society and that's your answer. A healthy man who looks like he has a spine, a decent fashion sense, in good shape. Stuff like that. People, especially young women, crave for that shit and bitch all the time that guys like that aren't around enough in public anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:56 PM
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The world has changed a lot and western society is not as conservative and traditional as weird neurotic redditors think it is. You could keep listing off more bullet points and they would all be connected to the fact that the brave new world is here and it has a lot of momentum. Also, there is a perception that men are more feminine + there is an obvious lack of men visible in public, so when a man comes along that exhibits even slightly masculine traits, he is essentially worshiped. It's a pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:15 PM
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Guys just want to have sex usually. Not much really matters after that point. Steroids and plain old TRT treatments can change the myonuclei blah blah in your cells, thereby pushing your threshold of strength and endurance and speed farther. People don't want to admit that genetics (and looks, too) play a great role in your performance in life, because then they'd have to admit that some people really do try hard and just get totally shafted by life. Also, it makes women look shallow too, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 10:16 AM
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That's just the way it goes. I understand. But it feels very phony when all of a sudden people start liking you as opposed to before when they didn't. It feels like an impossible maze, with no entrance or exit points, only illusory ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 10:13 AM
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Once you get into very good physical shape, a lot of other things fall into place. It's amazing how easily people are manipulated. I'm not too flattered by the night-and-day reactions I get from people ever since I've gotten into it, but I think what guys get wrong the most is they don't listen to women. Women whine on the internet about all sorts of things, my god, they even think they are oppressed and that society is conservative because not enough cute young guys look them in the eyes and as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 09:03 PM
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The thing is, a lot of guys online just don't listen. You can try to give them a decent idea of how to move forward with their lives, and they just get very bitchy, very combative. Just because women don't like you and your life has been less than ideal doesn't mean it's over. You can absolutely pull yourself together, get your shit together, nut up, whatever phrase you want to use there. You're a man, you can absolutely be the guy to get fucked up climbing the mountain but in the end you still …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:37 PM
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That's just the way reddit is. It's a site full of people who lean left who feel they are always being persecuted by some conservative society out there. Not all people who lean left behave like the ones on reddit, though. As for women, it's a solidified circlejerk on this site to think that women are still oppressed by some patriarchy (?) because not every guy out there wants to accept women and their flaws - especially if those flaws involve edgy and promiscuous behavior/traits. To put it very…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 11:56 PM
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I've seen lots of situations where women who just aren't attractive at all get plenty of validation from guys. That's because men have no standards and women are crafty at bypassing competition from other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:17 PM
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But men have almost no standards at all though, so those niche chicks do quite well for themselves since they give off creepy male-like vibes and they exploit the "I'm one of the guys" trope to get the attention of however many guys they can. It's a decent strategy for women who can't compete the regular way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 09:25 PM
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You have to make that money. If you don't make the money, then you don't have anything in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:35 PM
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Oh. Are you married to a black gentleman? This is very good news. Very good news of positive development in the black community.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 07:50 PM
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This sub is just a time waster for a lot of people. Nothing I see here has really changed my opinion about anything, especially since it's so common here for me to see redditors barfing out modern hip talking points that are being pushed in the zeitgeist over and over again. This place is just one more piece of the puzzle that shows how there is a dragnet of sorts over the internet and it can influence the mass psyches of people in ways they don't even realize. As for women, I'm glad that no int…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:27 AM
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See? Groups that were once considered brown are now being called white because it's the trendy thing to do. Nobody is accusing them of any of the atrocities whites have been accused of in the past. How convenient! Super white privilege on full display. It used to be that they were not white when it came time to criticize whites, now they are 'white' but we just don't mention them when white criticizing time happens. Didn't you marry a white guy anyway? I wonder where this prude traditional racis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 10:51 AM
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All the times I've seen on a certain website where people insist that, say, middle easterners and hispanics are now white, and how dare classical whites bar them from their rightful classification of being white. Sometimes there are discussions, other times blatant arguments, but whether it's on that site or the few other ones I've seen this strange theme unfold, everyone wants them to be considered white without having any of the baggage that comes with it. But this is western society now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:17 PM
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So it doesn't exist, yet they want to all classify themselves as such? Interesting. The examples would be all the instances I've seen of previously brown ethnicities now trying to convince everyone they are white. Like I said before, they now get to be 'white' without being accused of any of the wrongdoings whites are accused of. They if anything have super white privilege but I don't expect anybody to call them out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:30 AM
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Millions of people who classify as traditionally white in the western sense would disagree with you, as well as all the minorities piggybacking on the modern opportunity to call themselves 'white' even though they've always been considered brown.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:20 PM
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It will probably just be like it is now, on steroids. There is no legitimate 'backlash against feminism', it's really just a bunch of angry guys online and traditionalist LARPers who think that they can cosplay what they think is 'traditional' and then somehow feminism will go away. The gap between boys and men who get respect and boys and men who don't get respect will be much wider than it is now. Men's issues will still be ignored or scoffed at, but they will gain recognition under the banner…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:00 PM
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I have noticed that there is a push by certain groups (ones that also oppose each other quite often) to now label certain groups as white that were considered brown before. So now those people get to be """white""" without being accused of white privilege or criticized for any wrongdoings whites have done in the past. They get to be white but they are still "oppressed". How convenient!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 10:56 PM
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I think it's funny and mentally rewarding when I read about how all these women are upset that guys won't hit on them. But speaking for myself, when I like a woman, I am charismatic as fuck with her. I feel a connection and an energy, I enjoy engaging with her and I'm not nervous at all. Women I don't find attractive can come across as very creepy to me at times and I would rather not engage with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 06:59 PM
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It tends to be ignored when women sexually push their boundaries with men (has happened to me) or when they decide to target a guy when he doesn't like them back (has also happened to me). It's true that women are less likely to shoot up a place when they don't get what they want, but as a guy who has experienced the demonic rage women feel when they don't get what they want, I can tell you, it's not fun. Especially considering other guys tend to defend the women and go on strange tangents about…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:41 PM
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Usually the "entitlement" thing is a way of further pushing aside any guys who already aren't being respected, have problems with women, and who don't fit into society. I've seen plenty of times where some young little dudebro acts entitled and thinks the world owes him everything and women and people just love it and the guys get what they want. It mostly has nothing to do with entitlement and more of classifying the men that get respect vs the men that do not. And women too can be plenty entit…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:22 PM
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This is nothing new. Women complain about this now more than ever, a lot of men complain on their behalf too, that because some cute guy is too meek or whatever to defeat their bitchy signals, that means that women have it hard because guys aren't aggressive or confident blah blah blah anymore. The poor women, how ever will they survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:42 AM
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I think you read what I said wrong. I meant that reddit thinks that white guys only like white and traditionally feminine attractive women, and so reddit then takes it upon themselves to conclude that any women who don't fit that criteria are oppressed because white guys don't want them. I see small trickles of this way of thinking on other sites, but it's definitely mostly a reddit way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:46 PM
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My defintion of tomboy is not confined to athletes. It's a much more broad definition that mostly has nothing to do with athletics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:44 PM
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I guess it would be the huge difference in how I am treated ever since I've gotten in very good shape. Compared to before the difference is night and day. It still bothers me sometimes, but life is all about getting over things and that's just the way things are. I don't have to let it bother me or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:44 PM
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Every instance of that I've seen, the women tend to be rather feminine outside of the playing sports thing. I wasn't just talking about sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:09 PM
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Sure. It's just that I've seen reddit go on gigantic circlejerks that men don't like any women that aren't white and feminine and traditionally attractive, and tomboys are one of those niches reddit will occasionally tap into for those oppression points. It's annoying to see so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:18 AM
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I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:17 AM
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I'm sure you of all people have far better options just waiting for you should you take the prompt to pursue such action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:48 AM
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Yes they are. But don't mind me, I'm aware of how redditors think about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:53 AM
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Tomboys are gross, but I'm sure reddit will have fun once again complaining that men like feminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 02:37 AM
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This sub complains every day that marriage and dating is declining and men aren't good enough though. So it's not just the men you refer to that are complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 06:39 PM
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I'm not sure what that has to do with the direct comment you replied to, and I know this is probably going to be typed in vain, but why doesn't she just dump him? That sounds very bad and if your friend doesn't dump him then she obviously has low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 09:27 AM
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You reminded me of a guy who insisted that women in porn were all basically exactly how you described. I still wonder how he reached that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 11:05 PM
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What men giveth, men can also taketh away, but men do not haveth the balls to do such a thing. This topic is also great if you want to shit disturb (that wasn't my intention though). It gets people fired up in so many of their own different ways, that the mere existence of these guys not getting women causes a brutal shitstorm. What a time to be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:30 PM
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You appear to be one of the few people on this website capable of answering this in a non-reddit way, so I'll ask you, why do you think this is happening? I've heard lots of answers. From this is natural selection, to western society got too degenerate and pushed too far, to men don't like feminism, to women suck, on and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:18 PM
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Really? I see a lot of women here going hook line and sinker into the "omg we are oppressed because guys aren't good enough" way of thinking. Which isn't surprising. But still. If the people here spent more time on the main subreddit, they'd find that this idea of men not being good enough and women being victims because of that is quite a common red pill talking point. But if you went back years and years, I can't remember this idea of women being victims because men aren't good enough ever rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:07 PM
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But are men really doing away with women? What a bold statement you just made, space cowboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 04:05 PM
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Yes. But for years, women have made it almost another hobby of it's own to feel victimized when men don't meet their standards, and because they're women, that victimization is seen as legitimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:19 AM
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We're not arguing you crazy guy. I was just saying in general, look at how this sub reacted based on my one thread where people started immediately feeling sorry for women, going on the offensive, and claiming I said things I didn't just because I suggested that maybe women weren't blameless, maybe it's not all the fault of men. There are still threads being made that reference my thread and they are all faulty and illegitimate because they claim I said things I never did. You also are a former …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 10:18 AM
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We've already talked about how this is reddit and your average redditor and redditors on a collective basis think that society is some conservative boogeyman coming to prosecute them. I don't know if there's any way to get my point across to this sub that I am aware that men are not perfect and that we contribute to these issues. But that doesn't mean women are innocent blameless victims because they can't find quality guys. You understand me now, my former redpill guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:48 AM
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I don't think women are so perfect that "men not getting laid" is the immediate cause. Women have to contribute something to the decline since they are not perfect beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:31 AM
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You could say that. But then the backlash against men doing that kicks off from that point. As you can see, women and their defenders do not shut up about men not being good enough, and some go so far as to even see it as an issue of women being oppressed because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 01:28 AM
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It's very reddit 101 to think everything is conservative and traditional, we've already talked about that. Many people here are aware that we choose to waste our time talking about social trends (that, based on my thread 2 days ago, this sub thinks exists but doesn't exist) that we can't control. Have all the internet messages directed at men made them man up and opt in any more than they already were? Judging by all the criticisms about how awful men are and how they are dropping out of society…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 05:49 PM
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I remember your previous tag. Women will be fine. Things will re-arrange themselves based on the new order - and plenty of people will still be involved in socialization with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:30 PM
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So what's the problem here, my former redpill friend? If that's what they want to do then they shall do that - and life goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:15 PM
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If women were to go their own way, that would be much healthier than them sitting on reddit or some shitty blog or shitty website complaining about how men won't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 04:01 PM
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Go away. Plenty of women have awful traits that cause them to end up alone or to severely struggle with their prospects and they blame that on men, and then reddit circlejerks about women being oppressed victims. In the past 2 days in my thread and others, this sub has refused to even entertain the notion of what I just said. It's always just whining about men and how society is so conservative and blah blah blah. You're damn right men should have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:59 PM
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You said that women should lower their standards, I don't think that will happen. And take note of all the threads that popped up after I made mine, and people were upset because they thought I said women should lower their standards and things like that. The people here are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 02:21 PM
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I have lived the experience of being one of those guys in western culture and all I can really say is that life goes on and it's up to those guys to find a way out of that situation. Venting about it is healthy to a certain point, and then the retort comes of "life is unfair, accept it or find a way to beat it". But even men who are lower in society can still get some form of respect, as I experienced. But then there's the counter argument to that, who wants scraps of respect? When men decline, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:26 PM
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Are you trying to say men are the lower class? Even when I was in much of a worse position as a man, I still got respect from people now and then. Even the people who had a track record of being nasty to me were nice once in a while. If you are a man in western culture these days who can tick off all the boxes of what women (and society at large) want, you have it made. For a lot of young boys, just existing is good enough since I see complaints there is a distant lack of them in public (not my …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:16 PM
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I'm not sure how I can be more clear. A lot of men in western society are socially suffering, but a lot of men also reap the benefits of how this society is structured and they are totally different from the disaffected guys. But men still have some value in the west. Whether as tools or as human beings. Sons, fathers, neighbors, co-workers, etc etc. It's noteworthy how men and their issues in society are often only brought up when they are directly connected to how women can't find dates and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:06 PM
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My thread (which inspired many other threads) was not about women selecting really, it was about the sheer possibility that maybe women are also at fault for less dating and less sex and less marriage. Somehow, someway. You can take a whole list of men's flaws and how it ruins things women, but what about women's flaws and how it ruins their chances with men? Just because people don't even want to entertain that notion doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:03 PM
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Men are valued as tools. As disposable building blocks of civilization. They are also valued on a social level too, so we don't have it totally unfair. Then, there are the men who are not valued and are disrespected, and that has always been a problem for them and society. Telling those guys to opt in and man up because they have to (like, just because, bro) and that they need to make women happy is not much of an incentive. Men are treated like trash and men are also treated like kings. It's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:48 PM
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That's not going to happen and I try to be fair about this. If I resent being told I should do this and that, then it's hands off when it comes to women and their standards. The only thing that women can't beat is that there are bound to be men - no matter how plentiful in number - that just don't match up to what they want. Women need to learn how to get over this better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:44 PM
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You then have to wonder why western society hasn't already done that. People would love it if men would be encouraged/forced(?) to improve themselves for women. That sentiment has strongly existed for years as I have encountered it many many times. The problem there is guys who don't think they should be forced to better themselves just so women can be happy, and there are a lot of young boys out there who have it very good, and they tend to get all the goodies of society on a golden platter whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:50 AM
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I never said women "should" lower their standards, I said that women are not oppressed victims in western society if they can't find guys they like. On an individual or a broader, more collective basis. I also think that since women are imperfect beings with a certain degree of agency, they are not blameless in the situation either. Women are free to have whatever standards they want, doesn't mean they are oppressed or whatever the word reddit wants to choose when guys fail to meet their standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:10 AM
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Then she should have left earlier - or maybe never gone on the date. She can always find better guys out there. Good luck to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:44 PM
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It's internet lingo for "cringy/stupid behavior I don't like". I think banning this subreddit would help a lot of people waste less time, but we choose to come here and waste time so I'm neutral about that whole topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:43 PM
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Women don't have to go through with that if they don't want to though. And I think the internet campaigns have failed, considering women complain now more than ever that men aren't good enough for dating or marriage. In the intense situation you described, women would be more than willing to go through that if they thought the guy was worth it. Nowadays, if they think the guys are not worth it, they are free to choose to abstain from such a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 01:54 AM
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I'm not sweating it and I know they think a lot of men just aren't good enough. But for western women to then claim they are oppressed because guys aren't good enough or because we won't try or won't look them in the eye blah blah gobbledy gook, it gets old and it's almost an insult to all the people that have ever had it hard in life for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 11:54 PM
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Holy fuck this thread exploded just because the OP is upset people criticized her friend LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 08:03 PM
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I wonder if your thread will experience the same autism mine did, or if the people here will acknowledge the lack of "intimate relationships and sexual activity among younger people" like they do multiple times a day and keep going on, business as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:40 PM
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You're a very strange person. This thread is about how women could possibly be a part of the problem, and of course you have multiple redditors sperging out about the very idea despite their lip service to "gender equality". Will women ever consider that maybe they can't find men because women are part of the problem? Or is that too blasphemous of a concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:37 PM
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You have to wonder why so many women complain about not finding a guy if men are so desperate and thirsty to begin with. Men cause ourselves a lot of problems but in this case, not being as eager to validate women is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:35 PM
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I didn't say it was up to me to decide. You didn't even read what I said properly. I was wondering if people ever consider that men just don't want to pursue certain women, sex drive be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:34 PM
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I'm not trying to force anything on women you weirdo. But I'm glad you think women are not at fault for anything, oh boy, what an unconventional reddit opinion you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:04 PM
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The world has changed drastically and women want everything to neatly come together to totally benefit them, and life just doesn't work that way, my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:00 PM
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It's good as a man if people respect you and if you make the proper choices. But when it's bad, it can get very bad. Been through it before, reddit overstates how good all men have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:59 PM
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You're wrong, I never said that, go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:58 PM
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You don't understand where the North Korean Lobster Spicing Forum is? Shame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:55 PM
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Yeah, a certain Chinese ice sculpting palace is full of them. If you don't get that reference then I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:20 PM
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Then that begs the question, why do they complain that men aren't good enough or that men won't try?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:19 PM
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No. Think of certain... places. The media is all over this shit, buster.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:19 PM
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This subreddit (and a lot of other places) talks about decline in sex dates birth rates and marriage rates as society declining or not being what it once was. On the contrary, people being less involved in those things will trim the fat and give people a chance to do other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:18 PM
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I didn't say that LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:37 PM
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I'm not just talking about PPD you outrageous freaking guy. Many other sites too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:31 PM
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I do agree that western society has a certain nastyness to it and I feel bad for the young men that are affected by it, not that they are perfect either, but I know how it feels. But I'm not too keen on the "omg, men won't look women in the eyes and flirt with them, this is horrible!" school of thought. It took me a while to realize that I don't have to be subject to the negativity the west creates, I can be better than that, that even though a lot of nastyness is directed towards young men, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 04:18 PM
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I frame it as social decline because others imply it or downright state it as such. You are seeing it from a different angle. I am asking people if they feel women have any contributions to the epidemic rather than just blaming men. Clearly, there are people here and elsewhere who feel this is a problem, a factor, a phenomenon, what have you. Too many people are focusing on me to obfuscate the question. I am asking others and many have failed to even provide a coherent response. This is not abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:23 PM
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I notice that women and redditors and some social conservatives that defend women do this. They act a certain way and then deny it profusely, it's as if they hate being pegged down and studied and questioned. Plausible deniability, perhaps, but in these cases it's not even plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:30 PM
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Commonly seen as said by you, sure. But I remember all the circlejerks I've seen here that blame men. It bothers me that this is western society and women are still seen as unaccountable and as constant victims even if men aren't actually, you know, doing anything. Men can opt out and throw up their hands and women are still victims because of that, somehow. I am also not just talking about reddit you see. It seems that left-wing or right-wing, women are just not to be blamed for the most part i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:26 PM
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Yes. This sub is it's own paradigm but this entire time I've been talking about this sub and other internet places. And some guys here do blame women, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:12 PM
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Did you see what I said earlier? I am aware that certain users will do as you say. I never denied that. I have spent time in other websites where the two camps are often right next door to each other. That guy was off-base to blame porn or old women, and I don't think men are the sole problem as the circlejerk goes, and neither are women. But it gets old seeing "young men are losers, they won't approach women or look them in the eye, society is so traditional, women have it hard!" over and over …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:05 PM
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Where it is almost always the case that women are blamed in some way and in many cases, entirely. That is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:00 PM
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Why are so many redditors here asserting that I feel this is some sort of requirement for men or society? I'm wondering why people always complain about this and why they conclude men are the problem. Social function will continue regardless. People will adapt and life will go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:56 PM
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Some people do that, but I know what I've seen here and even in the most rigid right-wing sections of the internet and how all parties agree men are at fault. Considering how many people exist with differing opinions it does not surprise me that sometimes women are blamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:55 PM
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Yet they still have that drive for a higher bidder, and we still have the drive for pussy - so they wait, aggravated we're not pursuing them, while men jerk off to porn instead because it's such a cheaper investment. That's what you said. Which is a good window on this topic. But do people ever stop and think that maybe men feel that women are not worth being pursued? Men are often very desperate and will fuck anything as long as it's not extremely fat or disfigured.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:53 PM
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If I could find a way to round up all the people I've ever argued with about this topic, all the people I've ever lurked on and seen them complaining about it, I'd then encourage you to ask them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:46 PM
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I'm saying that people are complaining about less sex, people dating less, birth rates and marriage rates going down, and since men get their fair share of blame for it, I wonder if people can think of reasons women contribute to these issues. It's not that hard, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:36 PM
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I am aware of that thread. I think he was frustrated and didn't know who to assign blame to. I don't think porn is the solution to any of this like those guys can often claim. But he did vaguely touch on what I am asking about here. I am also aware of the internet guys who talk about hypergamy, and that may be part of the problem, but it connects. So women whine about men not being good enough anymore, and those guys whine about women having too high expectations, and thus we end up at "people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:28 PM
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I've seen this all before, nothing new. Reddit especially is all about gender equality and other such modern promises, but it still loves expecting traditional expectations out of men. That's western society too, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:23 PM
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Men are their own worst enemies. But I know what I've seen regarding this topic. That being, people expect men to bear all the burden and responsibilities of the blame. It's the default standard for men to take the blame of people not dating, sexlessness, the decline of marriage and birthrates. People love complaining about this and blaming men. It's like them drinking or doing opiates or other foreign substances. If a man gets better and still can't find women interested in him, it's time to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:20 PM
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But that's the thing - yes they do. This sub complains about it every day. Online articles. Hardcore social conservatives. The media. Older guys complaining to me about younger guys. It's almost as if people get some satisfaction about complaining about this. A better way to phrase what you said would be that nobody cares about the value of those men, that's true. People only want the improved, polished finished product. They want those men to get their shit together, for women of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:14 PM
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Not really. A few people, yes. But it's almost as if redditors get some sort of sick thrill off blaming men for this problem. And men have to be a part of the problem by default just like women since they are entities involved in the issue. We would all be better off if we stopped talking about this issue, but we won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:11 PM
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lol, that still doesn't explain why so many women (and men too, men complain about other men too) complain about men not being good enough and men dropping out of society. If the entitlement was the problem, then how could it be, considering women complain that so many men just aren't good enough or won't try?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:06 PM
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You were one of the more coherent responses. Aspects of the decline - you already know them. And you have to wonder, if women have so much social power, why do they still complain so much about, say, guys not approaching them? Or guys not going outside to interact with them? Women are already using their power consciously and subconsciously to get what they want, but they are still dissatisfied with the results. Even the most nasty women around would love it if all men opted in and did what was …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:03 PM
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You are one of the only people who replied who didn't sperg out, so thanks. I am not trying to do a witch-hunt against women. I just think that since men are always blamed for this problem, we can think of how women may contribute to the problem, since it's impossible that women are blameless in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:47 PM
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Forget the idea of men being entitled to sex. Take the issue at hand and how other fucking people complain about it. I am now asking how women could be part of the problem if we had to name some reasons. I think people would be less tense if they didn't complain about this epidemic constantly. It gives off very bad vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:46 PM
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It's not a real problem Then why do people complain about it so often for years? Unless they just enjoying spewing spit and wind into the void. That's not really an enjoyable hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:44 PM
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I wonder why so many people are playing dumb here, especially considering the people I see playing dumb take part in the same threads about this topic over and over and over. So men are blamed for not being good looking enough, not going outside enough, not approaching, being weird etc. On the flip side, how could we blame women for their contributions to this problem if we had to? It could be anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:39 PM
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Aside from a personal attack and reddit talking points you don't have much. Yes, some people try to stop the U.S. from being more sexual, but the U.S. is already plenty sexual with all the porn, casual sex, dating, and raunchy media depictions it can handle. When I went there, I didn't see a prude traditional society. I saw modern first world citizens that are not living in a puritanical wasteland, contrary to what redditors say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:37 PM
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I'm asking what problems women could be contributing to this 'epidemic' since women are imperfect flawed human beings. Nothing to do with men being entitled to sex, holy god in heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:35 PM
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Yes it does, the sub had a spaz fest the other day and about 6 threads were made on this topic with the same conclusions reached over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:34 PM
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That is absolutely not what I am saying at all. Take the situation as it is presented. Men are blamed for it. If we had to blame women for something, what would it be? Their attitudes? Their track records? Their past history? Their careers? It could be anything in a tally list of blaming and excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:33 PM
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We are not. But if this sub can complain about men being the problem over and over, I figure we could switch gears for a bit and possibly tackle the possibility of women contributing to the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:23 PM
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No, this sub has been talking about this issue for a very long time actually. I can remember as far back as 2 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:22 PM
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But has the behavior of women contributed to anything, if we had to or possibly could attribute blame to them as we do with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:21 PM
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This sub has multiple threads every single day where users go on and on about people having less sex, people not dating, men not being active in the SMP/RMP. I'm wondering if anybody can brainstorm ideas about how women are contributing to these perceived declines, because all I really see is everyone agreeing that men are the cause of it. It takes two to tango, or in this case, not tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:09 PM
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I've been there a few times. There are people who think like you and people who think like me, both who live there and who do not. I don't need to physically be there to see all the pieces of media that flows from that land. You have a reddit bias. Just because women are not getting gangbanged out in the street (per se) doesn't mean the U.S. is prude and traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 12:04 PM
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I can and will say otherwise. All the porn that exists and all the sexified presentations in media contradict what you say. Just because it's not totally promiscuous to the core doesn't mean it's a prude traditional society, you spend too much time on reddit where people think that men not dating sluts means women are oppressed. Also, people are free to try to change laws instead of bitching on reddit about mean conservatives. But speaking for myself, I'd rather not see some guys or fat woman's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 11:54 AM
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It's not. Just because you say that on reddit doesn't mean it is. Yes, there are social conservatives who try to stop other people from doing/showing X and Y, doesn't mean they succeed in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 10:21 AM
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The only thing people are really going to tell you is to man up and opt in, etc etc. And that being a man is easy and all those other talking points. I don't think women ever intended for men to be "sexually liberated" in the way you are referring to. They either don't care, or they think it's good that the lower value men are dealt with while they have a free path to pursue/get pursued by the guys they want. And women are very good at changing appearances as they go. You will notice even a red …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:16 PM
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Yeah, I have. The nation where so much porn is made it's almost unfathomable, and displays of raunchy behavior are commonplace in media.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:11 PM
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Then why do so many women complain that young guys won't do X anymore? X being anything that leads up to dating or fucking. You see it on here everyday, this complaint being lodged in one way or another. I've seen it in many other places too, although I'm sure those women are huge losers and they are hiding behind anonymity and criticism of men to shield themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:43 AM
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I didn't mean that western society is the most liberated in the sense that everyone (and I mean everyone) is having a huge orgy. That is gross and women don't want that and neither do I and I don't think you do either. Women are free to be as promiscuous as they want in any way they want. They can even do it on camera for everyone to see! It just so happens that women are very sexually selective, go figure. Not only do most men not want to be cucks, most men have a hard time being disrespected i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 01:41 AM
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Of course it is. Women are like desperate children begging for men to approve of them. Judging by how much women complain that guys won't even talk to them anymore, I don't know how true your statement is anymore for the last 7 years. And nobody is around to tell women that guys don't owe them relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 10:04 PM
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Why? You embody the heart and soul of reddit. Men are not harming women in any way by not dating them. And if women feel they are not getting enough access to cock, again, porn and prostitution is always an easy step away that lots of them take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:51 PM
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There is pressure on women Sort of, but not really. Like we agreed on, you are saying they have it hard (for lack of a better term at the moment) because guys won't date them if they are promiscuous. But men are free to judge women however we want, and women are free to do whatever they want. Certain men not dating promiscuous women doesn't stop hordes of women from going into porn, being hookers, or whatever else they do. Reddit and lots of other entities try to frame this as a "women have it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:44 PM
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I appreciate you admitting that is what you meant as opposed to beating around the bush with it (as is what people often do here about this topic). But all I can really say is that women and everyone else will have to accept that men have a right to our own standards and a right to judge women for whatever reason we see fit. That does not mean women are oppressed or whatever redditors say, just because men don't want to date or marry promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:33 PM
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I was just talking about western society. Women are sexually liberated, they can do anything they want such as go into porn or have casual sex with tons of guys and they are not oppressed because guys may not want to date them after that. Which is often, I noticed, what people mean when they say "women still feel some kind of social pressure". And then you factor in that not all women want to take part in those things. As for the hypocritical guys, it's the same thing. They are not oppressed jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:25 PM
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Doesn't surprise me that a redditor thinks that, but I never see a good explanation for why anyone thinks that way beyond circlejerking of talking points. Western society is the most liberated pro-sex pro-female society to ever exist in human history, just because not all men can be perfect archetypes doesn't mean it's prude or traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 09:15 PM
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"Men are at fault for everything, women are victims, and western society is prude and traditional!" There, I just summed up what this sub and most of the internet thinks in one quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:24 PM
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So, in other words, how can we make young men more appealing to young women. Plenty of young males have it very easy and don't have to work for jack shit and they still get girls/women, respect and all that. One day people will have to accept that there will always be a leftover dump of single women and trying to plot and plan how to get young men to "man up" for them is only focusing on half the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:00 PM
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Telling you that you're not important and that you don't define reality is not an insult. Calling you an obtuse one is, because you are obtuse. You're not important enough for me to go dig up all my old internet arguments and all the online articles targeted at men to "man up". You have to accept that you're wrong and that western society still expects things out of men, and that reality exists outside of your thick skull.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:53 PM
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I don't care that you think that just because you haven't seen it that it doesn't happen. You're not that important. It is exactly the same. Getting married and 'being a man' is the paramount of masculinity in many traditionalist schools of thought. If you've ever spend some time on say /pol/ or read the myriad of online articles addressing men not marrying, you'd know what I mean, but you're purposely denying my premise because you don't want to admit that men are still pressured to do things i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 01:33 AM
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Good for you, I don't care. If you think that a sizeable amount of guys don't pressure other guys to conform to expectations of masculinity, which includes dating/marrying women, then you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 05:58 PM
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Contrary to what reddit and a lot of western society thinks, not every man has it easy and not every man gets respect. When you don't get any respect and life just keeps going wrong for you in a multitude of ways, and you can't receive help for it (usually), a gun firing a bullet into your skull is the best option for a lot of guys. I completely understand where they are coming from, but for their own sakes, they need to learn how to get their shit together for themselves. Men have failed themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 11:32 PM
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I've been in plenty of internet arguments and a few real life discussions where I am told in no uncertain terms that as a man I should man up and opt in because women need it. It doesn't matter if you don't believe those arguments never happened. Women are single because it's usually their fault, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 07:58 PM
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Yes they are. I wasn't talking about Charlize or whatever his name is. I was talking about the general phenomenon of women not being able to get guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:52 PM
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Do you need help with something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 06:52 PM
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Lots of women and men see their complaints as legitimate. It's still easy to ignore, but it's becoming very widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:48 PM
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Women complain about it constantly but they also have legions of men willing to give other men a hard time for it. This is western society. Women are seen as oppressed victims if they can't get men - and women and other men take it upon themselves to try to get other men to 'correct' the problem. Bonus points for the oppression if the women are promiscuous or if they are minority women. There is a thread like that here almost every single day, full of people ranting into the void about how young…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 05:19 PM
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Finally, someone else noticed this. 2012 was a fatal year for gender relations in western society. The internet spawned some sort of sickness that has only grown since. /r/justneckbeardthings is another sub where these people go to spew their bitterness. This is water under the bridge to me, but from what I've seen on the plethora of sites I've seen this stuff on, I can't understand why people think this won't spell bad news for gender relations in totality. Yes, a lot of this stuff ends up leak…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:21 AM
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lol. It's already like that, with money and everything else. The sentiment generally goes like "Oh no, women are so oppressed because men aren't good enough in all these areas! Men don't measure up, women are victims because of that!".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 07:47 PM
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You've asked this a few times before and here is the answer. There are a plethora of threads, posts, articles, various internet content where women complain about how society is so patriarchal and conservative, how young men won't approach/date/talk to them/look them in the eyes anymore, and there are also lots of men who, with intense salt I may add, take it upon themselves to echo these sentiments for women and fight for them on the internet. So you can't blame guys who see this and decide to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 06:59 AM
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I don't know him, so I find your speculation odd. Maybe he is like that. But the picture I have of him is of a guy who holds more power than he knows. A guy who needs to embrace a mixture of attributes to get him out of this issue. There are multiple things he can do to solve his issues. But constantly going to trashy cesspools is not one of them. Yeah, I know, look who's talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 11:22 AM
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I do not expect women to be empathetic or sympathetic here. Or anybody for that matter. Trashy internet places like this that discuss gender issues are known for their nastyness. The mistakes that guy made was expecting women to be nice to him in an online place where they absolutely do not have to be; also, he was asking a provocative question that targeted women and again, they are in a place where they can be as nasty as they want to be, if they choose. The best thing that guy can do for hims…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 07:27 PM
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Rarely. I don't use much of reddit's features at all. I only really report when I am being directly insulted by the women here who use the stereotypical internet tropes they use against men online. Not because they bother me anymore, but just out of spite so I can see their comments removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 10:12 AM
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I find it hard to believe that 'nobody' reports them. I'm expecting to be shown some sort of 'proof' to the contrary, but with the types of guys we have here, I can definitely expect at least some of them to go on reporting sprees in retaliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 09:13 AM
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If men barge into Q4W threads and start denying women's experiences and insulting, they should be punished. But women very often do the same here and the comments stay up. It's not my subreddit and I am not too perturbed by this, but if we're on the topic of modding, yeah, it shouldn't be so lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:34 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by the invalidation rule. Bottom line, plenty of women come in and comment where they shouldn't and break rules and they are not punished for it. If that's because as you say the lack of reporting, I'm not sure how that can be realistically fixed since people who are more 'red' or similar to that prefer to fight rather than report. I just don't think it's fair that the declared transgressions appear to be only committed by one side. It's not. You say there's no bias, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 10:21 PM
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There appears to be a grave inconsistency when it comes to punishing women for violating the Q4M thread rules. You know exactly what I mean by malicious. There is a decent amount of complaining here about men barging into this and that thread and ranting about/discounting women's experiences, and it is punished. Women do the same amount of that, if not more, and it is not punished. I hardly ever report, but sometimes I do, I realize how futile it can be on the internet. And I'm not saying that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 07:12 PM
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They're allowed to post there too? So which is it? Can the opposite gender post in threads not meant for them, as long as it's not top level? Or do only women get that privilege? I have reported comments before by women and they are incredibly malicious and they stay up. Apparently the mod team has always had a female bias and it was worse a couple years ago, allegedly. Again, it's your sub. I've had arguments with reddit admins before where they specifically admitted to me that yes, they obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 12:31 AM
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By 'post' I meant comment/post. I wasn't going by the strict reddit definitions which seem to have changed now. I was also talking about going back much further than a month. And I've seen numerous Q4M threads where women post under the general and not the automod, quite a few of them discounting the experiences of men in their comments, and yet their posts are not removed. If the opposite happens, or if men just happen to be space cadets and post under the general in Q4W, mods clean house. I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 12:13 AM
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As far as I'm aware, anyone can do it. You just need a steady stream of users and a decent mod team. I'm not saying that moderating is easy and that I know what it's like to be in the position the mods are in here. But perhaps an even better option is that we don't get bogged down in the world of online gender debates. I'm just frustrated because I put time and effort into (most) of my posts, and it's frustrating to see them removed time and time again for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:46 AM
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I agree, I understand I am a user in this sub like the others, but it has gotten to the point now where I am getting annoyed at how many of my posts overall have been removed. We choose to come here and the moderators make the decisions they do - but it really does seem like certain times they just want to clean house and go on a wiping spree just because they personally disagree with what some user is saying. Very irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 08:26 AM
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Nothing has changed, and nothing will change, really. In 7 years, it will be the same thing. The advantage men have here is that we don't have to pay attention to this topic, we can turn our attention to other things. It's like a symphony orchestra, I see it on here and on other sites, but lots of people of so many different ideologies and backgrounds are convinced that western society is some prude traditional society that oppresses women because women can't find men good enough either to date …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 06:42 AM
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It's not just a PUA delusion. It's a delusion that many different types of people online share, and get angry about. The very idea of men not doing what is expected of them just gets on a lot of people's nerves. Now as for women, I don't think they are as bothered about this as they are made out to be, but there is definitely a segment of women who obsess over this and feel they are victims because of it. Also, a lot of young guys have it really easy, I've seen it over and over. Again, a certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 10:00 PM
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I'd rather fucking be dead than have to go with any of those women. Shoot me in the head and let my brains rain all over the concrete sidewalk.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:32 AM
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If you feel boxed in by internet ideologies, then by all means you don't have to follow it. You can follow some, or a lot, or none at all. Out in the field, though, life is more about practical adaptation as opposed to following a dogmatic script verbatim. Feel free to stop the mental masturbation which is what the internet is. The internet, it can drag you into a huge rut. You set the course which you will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:34 AM
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No. For years, reddit has used male responses to questions like this as "proof" that lots of men are still traditional and patriarchal. But since women are allowed to have their own preferences and justify them in any way, and by the way I have to hand it to women that they are very smooth with them, then men can do it too. Also, lots and lots of middle eastern women have been in porn since from what I can tell, the 90s. They were just more popular on amateur sites, euro sites, and other non-Nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:03 PM
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Minority women are being promoted more and more in media and they've been in media for decades upon decades. You are specifically stating in this thread that we are racist if we don't want to date minority women and then backing down when you are called out on it, yet you still want to retain your theme here so you continue to ramble on. If you or anybody think that minority women are oppressed because white guys won't date them, then you are so entitled you shouldn't even bother going outside a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:58 PM
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And hardly anybody is around anymore to remind those people that nobody owes them white dick, and that they're not oppressed victims just because white guys won't look them in the eyes and smile at them and ask them out on dates. In the laundry list of all problems humans suffer from on the planet, this is not one I agree with or have sympathy for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 03:55 PM
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Yes it is. I've seen it plenty of times. I'm aware of the preference you stated and I'm also aware that white men love to race mix. I was not talking specifically about black women. Yes it is shaming when you are specifically told in arguments (or online articles) that you are sexist and racist if you don't like minority women. Now, does it affect my life? No. Is all of this specifically and personally targeted at me? No. Do I have the power to just ignore all this and do what I want? Yes, alrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 12:22 AM
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OP, are you new to all this? I've dealt with this for years. I'm hardened to it and I don't even notice it much anymore because I'm busy doing other things. It's in everyone's best interests in western society to try to manipulate white men into approving of them and serving their needs. Go figure. That is your answer, they are the true insecure ones desperate for the approval of the most derided yet most worshiped demographic to ever exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 11:53 PM
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This is such a modern cookie cutter opinion I almost think it's fake. It's very common for minority women and their defenders online to try to shame white guys into dating them and I think that's incredibly pathetic. Here's some food for thought: just because a certain number of people out there aren't on board with the way you see the world, doesn't mean you or they are oppressed. Western society has deteriorated so much, that there is hardly anybody left to explain this. Minority women are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 11:48 PM
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Who cares? I know where I am right now and I chose to comment here, but these things feed into each other. Yes, women hold men to unfair standards and then complain until the moon turns to cheese that men don't adhere to them anymore, but men also choose to abide by those standards and the more we complain about what women expect out of us, the more women are seen as victims in one way or another. We can just live our lives and remain single - or go find one of the women who behave in the ways w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 01:59 AM
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The internet is mental masturbation. Some people are aware of it. Others, are not. It is dangerous when entire internet communities circlejerk about what they think about whatever, with no opposing views to challenge them (or people try and risk a ban). I saw this a lot on forums back in the day. Just one example. Often times people use the internet as a vicarious way to picture what they wish their lives were like. How we want to be. It's very common and there's nothing wrong with mental visual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 12:44 AM
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What's also draining is when I have to explain to other guys that I know inside and out what it entails to be a guy who has struggled socially, who has been shoved aside, the whole nine yards. Only you can salvage something out of that and develop an attitude that makes you stronger, and helps you rationalize everything and be able to take on any task.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:10 PM
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Or, you can toughen up and take a stoic approach to it. At a certain point you have to stop being down on yourself, and lift yourself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:32 AM
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Looking at your post history you have a lot of hate for the color of the skin I do not understand what this fucking means in relation to me. Why are we even here right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:23 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:18 AM
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Not sure. I want off this ride right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:04 AM
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This sub has been very very strange today. I don't think spending a lot of time here is good for anyone's mental health, regardless of how hardened they may or may not be to these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 04:18 AM
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I know. I just think it's pathetic that certain women (and men) draw a conclusion that women are victims because men are not good enough romantic/sexual prospects for them. If men read certain self-help materials and utilize them, they'd be giving women what they want in a sense, because women always complain about the lack of good quality men out there. It makes sense that women want the best for themselves, but the idea that they are victims because men don't measure in a romantic/sexual aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 11:29 PM
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Yeah, and my point was that women complain about it constantly, and it could be said that what OP was talking about could be a way for men to rectify the issue. But then again, women still complain regardless of the content existing, and life goes on anyway even if women are not satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 11:21 PM
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I didn't say anything about what I thought, if you read the comment. It was about what women thought and how they complain all the time about how men aren't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 11:07 PM
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I'd love to know how women are guilty of idiotic reasoning here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 10:24 PM
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I'm not sure, honestly. Women just love endlessly complaining that there are not enough good men out there in western society, so you'd think that they'd be more welcoming of such ideas. But their usual explanation is that they don't like the nastyness that comes along with such teachings. Whatever the case may be, women definitely at least on a subconscious level wish that more men would adhere to what they want. Some even think they're oppressed because not enough qualifying men exist anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 09:14 PM
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Women have been in the workplace for a very long time now. I sometimes wonder where the hell the people on this sub come from, certain talking points repeated here over and over are just so false and out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 01:16 AM
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I wouldn't mind, hypothetically, but tropes in my head tell me that she may have serious mental hangups if she is a woman and she has reached that stage of her life under that status. Or she may have certain deformities. I cannot find any data that appears legitimate when it comes to women who are in that age range under that status. I can only imagine they would be a very small portion of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 12:08 AM
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To a certain degree, yes. A lot of women in western society are just awful, despicable human beings. These women then have the audacity to assume men are "controlling" them and that "society" is oppressing them as women because men either individually or collectively can look at their character and accurately conclude that those women are bad people based on their conduct. Women in the west are free to behave as they wish, and men are free to judge them however we see fit. Call that misogyny and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 04:26 PM
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Yeah, being treated like trash and then being told you're so respected and privileged is an insult like none other on this planet. And then all of a sudden people think you're worthy of... something, not only as a human being but as a man just because you get jacked and all of a sudden you fit their ideas of what a man should be, and then all of a sudden they like you, and you're aware of how phony it all is and you wonder why they never liked you before. It's a lonely dark road and western soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 03:29 PM
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Working out like a genetic freak and paying more attention to my appearance meant that I get more respect on average than I did before, which was next to none, pretty much. People still try to mess with me now and then, and it can get nasty, but it's more of a "haha I was just messing around lets be cool now" and I don't like that. But I don't think my response is perfectly fitting for this discussion. My situation has more to do with society at large, not just women specifically. Any human aliv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:24 PM
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People are concerned about this so much because there is still an idea heavily ingrained in western culture that men have to be amazing, top of their game, whatever term you wish to describe it, and so people get offended when they see men declining in various ways. The same people who complain about "modern men" and how they aren't good enough are also the same people who insist that women in the west are victims and that society expects nothing out of men. Anyways, I have figured it out. Go th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 03:01 PM
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This idea that there's some traditional prude conservative society that loves to treat all men like privileged kings while oppressing women in any way possible under the sun. That's a very common circlejerk on here (and elsewhere), but western society is not like that at all. And when you try to point this out, people then go on diatribes about how guys don't experience this mythical society because they don't opt in and go outside enough. The delusion of the people who spew these things is almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 11:00 AM
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Some say that's what it is, others say it's desperate white guys getting whatever pussy they can. I'm just tired of reddit using this as yet another issue of oppression/social injustice, when it has nothing to do with that at all, and it's incredibly common as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 11:33 AM
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The amount of white men around here I see with minority women proves that reddit is wrong about minority women being left behind/oppressed by white men not wanting them. Complete hogwash.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 03:34 AM
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Right, I'm no stranger to the concept of niceness and rudeness and conflict with others, but them being mad that young attractive white guys may disapprove of their lifestyle choices and therefore not date or marry those women is their problem, not anybody else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:26 PM
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That's just the way they are, it's rather common for them to actually take part in such behaviors and then brag about it as some sort of rebellion against a "society" they think doesn't want them to do those things. They never specify what they mean by "society", but from what I can tell it usually means that they are upset that young attractive white guys won't approve of their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 09:42 PM
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Men use the term 'alpha' as an ego stroke and it's often defined in parameters that fit the traits we currently have. I'd like to think I'm one of the baddest son of a bitches to ever walk this planet, but anything can happen at any time and our ego blinds us to this. Be 'alpha' all you want, life will find a way to deal with you. A guy who bases his entire life off of women and what they think of him will inevitably spiral down into many negative thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 08:42 PM
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It's annoying how I've seen so often people bitching about young men failing to live up to social expectations of them, I've seen it here often as well as many other internet places and real life, and yet people in this thread consistently deny such a thing even happens. If any of you people think that such a thing doesn't occur, it only shows how out of touch you all are about this stuff. Especially since in the isolated case of PPD, we have multiple threads and posts complaining about it almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/18 04:09 AM
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Western women are hypocrites, go figure. Women are lucky that we are just supposed to accept and accommodate regarding everything they do. When women don't get the male validation they want, they go on the internet to start their crusade. A lot of men do it too, quite crudely I may add, the difference there is that one group is seen as oppressed victims for not getting what they want and the other is seen as pieces of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:00 PM
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Why the sudden response to the way things are? This sub is a horrible place full of horrible people. Same goes for reddit and the internet. If you can live a life where you are not overly exposed to the evil bitter nastyness of the human condition, you are a lucky person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 12:55 AM
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I'm a cold Canadian because the weather is cold and because of my life experiences. Not everybody has to be outgoing and extroverted. And just because not everybody is outgoing and extroverted it does not mean everything is puritanical as numerous people here have concluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 11:05 PM
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Stop being rude to men because they can get away with it. Stop complaining about their own pressures while ignoring the pressures men face and then claiming we all live like kings. Stop pretending western society is still very traditional and conservative when it's obvious women are just pretending to be that way so they can snag the however-many decent young men are still left out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:56 PM
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I'm still amazed that a decent number of people here are in denial about the entire topic. I've had a lot of legendary internet battles about this very topic. Some of the same people questioning my narrative here are the very same people complaining about this topic (albeit in different wording) in other threads over the course of time. Most likely, things will just carry on as they are and we will see the general effects of this phenomenon in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 12:36 AM
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Brah, we talked about this already. A lot of people are misunderstanding what I meant by the old system. They basically want all the negative awful aspects of it gone, while the positive aspects of it are dragged into the future. A sort of acceptable version of masculinity for the 21st century. People want this because what is sometimes referred to as the brave new world benefits greatly when men perform in this way. The problems arise when men show themselves to be lacking (in the eyes of other…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:50 PM
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The "old masculine ways" had a shit-ton of problems we've conveniently chosen to forget. Absolutely. But everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. Holding men to old ways of masculinity while mixing it with the way the modern west operates will benefit a lot of people who can milk men for all they are worth and then some.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 05:54 PM
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The ones I've talked to and observed made it abundantly clear that men should shoulder all the burden and that modern feminism or whatever else you may call it is not going away and that we must support/tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 11:44 PM
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That's just the way western society is. This is western culture 101. Women feel as though men are still trying to 'control' them by being tough with their preferences, but what women seem to not be able to understand is that men are allowed to have any preferences they want and no amount of feminism or shaming or whatever modern trash you want to spew will change that. Women base a lot of their lives off of the validation they receive from men on a social basis. When they do not get that validat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:34 PM
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It's interesting to see the mental gymnastics people here use when talking about this subject. On one hand, porn is bad, on the other hand, we apparently live in a really prude traditional society and porn is some sort of tool to fight this invisible imaginary traditional society reddit thinks the west still is. Anyway, the biggest danger porn has to young men is cucking them and taking away their first person mental perspective. Once that leaves, the void is filled with imagery other people put…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:36 PM
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So this is yet another thread complaining about western society being conservative and traditional, as the people of this sub claim it is? We have threads about this every single day, multiple times a day, as well as people using these talking points in other threads. Society changes, but it also remains the same. Once you understand this, all will be clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 08:20 PM
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I've noticed that mediterannean guys and middle eastern guys can be as rude, pushy, forceful and downright awful with women and they are universally forgiven because "it's just their culture". I recently found out I have more middle eastern blood in me than I originally thought, and it only enrages me even more. My very existence is the product of rape and expansionism and people just see it as a part of history. And of course the shit I see on a pretty constant basis where guys of certain ethni…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:10 PM
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This sub complains 24/7 about modern men not being these perfect ideals that women can benefit from. That is modern western society at it's core, complaining that women are oppressed because men aren't perfect superhumans. Your thread is just one speck of sand in a vast desert, don't worry my dear, I didn't think for a second that you were the only one guilty in all this. The silver lining to all this is that men can still do what they want, but it's annoying seeing all this internet whining ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 02:06 PM
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This is the most pathetic thread I have ever seen on here and the comments are even more pathetic. A bunch of internet people whining that men won't opt into society and be these perfect concoctions of men ready and willing to serve modern western society. I wonder when you people are going to realize that your postings won't stop men from opting out. Guys see this stuff and it discourages them even further. You will complain ad infinitum about men not being this perfect ideal you all think they…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 12:24 AM
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Possibly. I don't want you to see me though. You can make a huge difference by not committing provocations here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:58 AM
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You'll still be able to see my stuff and reply to it. The reddit blocking system sucks so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 11:57 PM
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I just really don't like you and if I block you, you will still see me. So please do not even reply to my content. I have a severe dislike for you and you are making things worse all the time. I appreciate your cooperation on this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 08:07 PM
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That's why I asked you if you could help me block you so you can't see me at all. So we don't have to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:32 PM
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Stop replying to my posts. If you see me in the future, please skip over anything I have to say, so we do not communicate. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 05:00 AM
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You completely missed the point of my comment. Is there a way to block reddit users so they can't see your posts? Can you help me with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:49 AM
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I'm not focused on body issues since I work out constantly and I know what I want to achieve. It's disastrous for there to be such a commonly repeated circlejerk in online discussions about how all men are automatically respected and treated like kings and how all women are oppressed and treated badly. My entire life I have never seen such a dynamic in play like that on a social basis. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of men and boys that live amazing lives and they are treated well by everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:48 AM
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Thanks for this great post. I have a great cunt detector and I myself am guilty of brushing off women who are nice to me. But I also despise women who are rude to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:31 AM
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The other big issue I have is generalizing all women based on the behaviors of a limited number of primarily white upper middle class women between the ages of 18 and 30. wtf? I totally love minority women now. #RaceMixingIsProgressive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:50 AM
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This entire thread is based around C. Women want to have their cake and eat it too, and they whine on the internet all the time that men can't be the perfect concoctions for them, and that's just what women do. There are plenty of masculine guys out there who are that perfect concoction, now go get them, sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:43 AM
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I'm not a woman. I'm probably misunderstanding your comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:24 PM
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I'll let you have your delusions despite everything that has been said. You are being spoonfed and you will take anything as 'proof' you are oppressed. What's mysterious here is the fact that you could take a lot of internet content, satire or real, and then use that as 'proof' you are oppressed, but you choose the Facebook page. Jesus Christ, God help us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 10:46 PM
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I don't connect the dots there. A guy has every right to not want a woman that's been around the block, but if she has been around the block or not, sexual acts are not something that are owed by one person to another. Guys also contribute to this, as a good amount of the time they are the ones demanding these acts be done in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 07:29 PM
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You will do anything to justify your victim mentality, even if it involves a joke Facebook page from many years ago. Go away, I don't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/18 07:26 PM
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This sub has an incredibly hard time understanding how hard it is for men to comprehend that they are being settled for. That they missed out on what other guys got handed to them on a golden platter. The guys who are the winners in this are overly respected and never criticized because, you guessed it, they are the winners, so the entitlement those guys have is not talked about. Now, I agree that whining about it gets old fast. But it's usually the 'other side' that is doing the whining. An ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 07:52 PM
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I can always leave it to this sub to complain about "patriarchy" and to complain about men and boys 24/7 yet simultaneously complain about men dropping out of society and not being red blooded go-getters anymore. I swear, the lack of self-awareness and the contradictory views on this subreddit regarding this issue could be studied by teams of highly trained professionals in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:56 PM
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I already do. If you can't see that I'm mocking people who think the way I phrased my post then it obviously didn't connect well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:26 AM
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Just go lift bro. Improve yourself and opt in and man up! Western society needs you, women will be oppressed if you opt out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 11:23 PM
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Men are allowed to have whatever standards we want and there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it. Look at the respect that guy is getting ever since he made it clear in a respectful way that he won't back down. As much as people can hate men for having standards or whatever other reason, the buck stops with us and that means we hold the power. Internet ideologues can get angry at this all they want, it won't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 11:11 PM
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lol that's just the way it is. You don't like it so you try to pin it on me and then argue about it so you can convince yourself you've dealt with the problem. Go talk to civilization about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:40 PM
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One thing is not like the other. Non-breeding males may provide value otherwise, but that doesn't mean all of them will. They are still disposable unless they can mitigate it by producing such value that they are needed indefinitely, which is very hard for anybody to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:43 PM
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I like how the same people blaming men for the "problem" are the same people who fervently deny in other threads that men are expected to adhere to certain standards of being men. This is incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:42 PM
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Holy shit, you really made it clear very early on that you can't argue for jack shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:42 PM
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That's just reality. There always have been and always will be disposable males and war was usually a way to get rid of them, nowadays they stay inside all day or go out and cause mischief. The very fact that you pin this idea on me and are so offended by it only proves that you have next to no understanding of these issues. Disposable males are loved by generals in war. Why? They are basically their cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 11:41 PM
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How do you not know what that means? It usually means men who are excess baggage to their communities, not contributing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:54 PM
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War lets everyone, especially men, beat their chests and let out warcrys. It fires people up in a way nothing else can. But the modern world is different from the ancient one, as much as it's the same. If there is no war to be had, men will LARP with other forms of intensity. As we see in western society today. Not taking anything away from those guys, by the way, this is just the way it is. The only reason less war would mean more sexual tension is because there would inevitably be an excess of…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:42 PM
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Thanks for finally admitting what's going on. The first line of your post was explained by the last line of your post. "Less sex" is not the result of a prude traditional society nor is it proof we live in a prude traditional society. What's happening is that like it always intended, the "sexual revolution" is leaving behind certain guys while certain other guys reap the benefits of it to extreme levels. The internet claims this isn't true but then the internet complains that lots of young men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 09:22 PM
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You used the possibility of a sexist page against women on Facebook as 'proof' people still think that way, even though it was made painfully clear from the start that it was a joke page. If you want to claim you/women are oppressed, there are tons of other outrage material much worse that you can click on right now that would better state your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 02:01 PM
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You want western men to stop worshiping women? Good luck with that, space cowboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 03:28 PM
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You were trying to use anything you can to conclude women are oppressed in a thread unrelated to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:57 PM
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A lot of people seem to think that all men get respect and get treated like kings by default, you phrased it quite well though. I'm glad not everybody in this day and age is so out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 02:55 PM
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Reddit and the internet in general incredibly exaggerates how much men want an agreeable woman. This is then used as "proof of how women still have it hard". Regardless, I have to call myself out. There have been times where I instinctively think lesser of a woman when she is being nice to me, nicer than the usual person is. I'm not sure why I am this way. On the other hand, I loathe women who like to fight and challenge me, I will not put up with that just because I'm a man in western society. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 11:34 PM
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What? Can you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 09:01 PM
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I don't know man, a lot of people were being very supportive towards you. I'm not trying to discount what you say you experienced. But there is inevitably bound to be a core group of men and women who think it's your duty as a man to slay and they will be very in-your-face about it often to the point of severe rudeness and insults. I don't like those people. As for your question, I'm still not sure myself. My views are changing constantly still. Either settling down or casual sex both have their…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 09:01 PM
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It worries me that the internet is so intense on discussing these types of issues and yet the very premise they base their ideas off of are wrong. This spells disaster for the future, it spells disaster for understanding problems we will face in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:38 PM
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Saying that men are better than women because we can eat more hamburgers in one sitting is not proof of sexism on a societal scale. It is proof that people like you want to grasp at straws though. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:33 PM
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Keep importing non-whites into white countries, and socially shame young white men who are struggling with a society that is hostile against them. That is a guaranteed way to keep white birth rates low. Then, when you notice all the destruction around you, go on the internet and complain that young white men aren't "real men anymore".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:19 PM
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I am indeed implying that, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 06:52 AM
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I meant that it was used by people as 'proof of sexism' even though it was created in a painful manner as to shout out at the user that it's sarcasm. The people who used that page was 'proof of sexism against women' were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 06:32 AM
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If we're talking about deference just for the sake of being male You could sum it up as such, yes. Some people here think I'm referencing myself here, but I'm focusing on the broader picture of men in general. I am definitely not as automatically respected as the internet says, and I've been disrespected before, but I have my own ways of dealing with that and it slowly gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 06:28 AM
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Yes, but I'm not sure what that has to do with the way western society is for the most part. I knew a guy who ran a Facebook page claiming men are better than women as a joke, and how often it was used as 'proof' of sexism was unbelievable. He was amazed people couldn't pick up on the sarcasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:51 PM
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I don’t think anyone gets automatic respect for simply being male I have seen this claim made incredibly often and it's been shoved in my face in arguments as a way to get a one-up on me, but I see no legitimate evidence that men are automatically respected for being men. I'm trying to understand the mindset of people who think this way. I also noticed there is an incredible taboo and stigma when it comes to speaking out and saying that no, men don't get as respected and worshiped as is often cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:40 PM
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claimed that all men are automatically given it for being men. This happens very often and I see no proof that these common internet claims match up with reality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:38 PM
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People are asking me what I mean by "respect" but that is why I made this thread. I'm asking you. I threw everyone a bone by saying that there is an idea that men get respected like we had it back in the good ol' days but there is more to it than just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:13 PM
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As to be expected, the vast majority of posters here blame young men almost exclusively. Go figure, eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 01:03 PM
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In my personal experience, everyone (women too!) like it when I open up and engage with others and add more color to the dynamic that is me. But I feel as though others expect that out of me, and I don't want to be that way unless I want to do it. So the odd time I receive that mental prompt, I'm all for it, but other than that I like being stoic and closed off. Masculinity has different incarnations and men in western society should be used to the fact that they are expected to adhere to multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 04:44 AM
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This is reddit so people like to make whiny generalized posts about how bad men are because we have standards, but a lot of men only care about what gets their dick moving. Redditors just love to say that the baseline of femininity is what is required, but it's not. Plenty of men go for masculine-brained women with not so clean pasts. If you want a nice conservative guy though, then yes, you should conform to traditional beauty standards and act feminine. Don't be fat, don't be combative either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:48 PM
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What do you mean by jacked up? Western society is even more garbage now than it was when I was starting to notice all this stuff and I didn't even think that was possible at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 12:11 AM
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Good public service. It avoids time wasting, yes. I just feel the need to say what I am saying here since there is often a circlejerk in the other direction. Women are quite entitled with all this, they just mask it under femininity, persecution complexes and what they feel men should do (which of course benefits women).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 11:52 PM
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Sure, but that's life. We don't always get what we want. Guys are told tough shit, nobody owes you anything so in your example I'd say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 11:35 PM
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It depends. The internet complains too much about guys not hitting on women. I was told a long time ago that if a woman likes you, she'll give signs, and it's true. I really don't feel like going out in public and approaching women just because society expects that out of me. There have been a few times I did do it, but because it was natural and I wanted to do it. Other than that I don't do it. There are also times where women are sending signs my way and I ignore them because I'm not intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 11:21 PM
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I am well aware of how certain types of women (I'm not sure of the total amount) think it's creepy when guys don't hit on them, when guys are not extroverted and so forth so the term 'creepy' has become mangled for me due to that. Like someone else said, the guys you mention have a certain charisma that is noticeable, and they approach people, they just throw people off in certain ways. The best thing for them to realize is that problems arise from the tongue, and having other guys that understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 10:56 PM
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I'd be lying if I said that I didn't want to look like I was physically etched out of granite so women could find me attractive. It sounds incredibly vain but it would be nice. But that's not my only goal. I'd like to be my own version of those guys. But getting there naturally, with proper nutrition. I've been working out a lot lately and it's going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:03 PM
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lol. It's hard to explain it to people but I have had a lot of time to think about this stuff. Lots and lots of time to ponder about everything in different ways. I've experienced a lot of regret, but some things changed and others did not. With my suffering I grew and became forged in fire. It isn't over until I'm dead. I've both come to a lot of conclusions and have been forced to adapt due to my life situations. I can confidently state that I don't think I would have had it any other way. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 10:45 AM
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Women want to be oppressed, it just feels good for me to point these things out especially on a subreddit like this. They may want everything to go their way and then still complain about it, they may be very spoiled, they may expect guys to do what's expected of them while women can be liberated, but guys need a reminder that they don't have to adhere to that if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:54 PM
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That is incredibly false, I've seen lots of women who are clearly over 100 pounds in public, some even "thicc" who are non-white and have white boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:52 PM
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You're wrong. Men will date women of any and every race, they love bragging about it on the internet too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:23 PM
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Women want to have their cake and eat it too and then they complain when men can't be dualistic superhumans who defy nature, but it's just the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 07:22 PM
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Then you have the flip-side of this, which is the internet whining that men won't hit on women, that guys are opting out, that society is too conservative, and that women are victims in all this. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 04:53 PM
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It's mostly just a feminist circlejerk where everyone (including "red pillers") complain over and over and over again that western society is still conservative and traditional (they provide no proof of such common talking points that they spew 24/7) and that men are privileged kings and that women are victims. Same shit, different day, wash, rinse, repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:40 PM
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The only answer I need is in all the bitching I've seen for the past 5 years or so. The backlash about men "opting out of society" and not being "real men anymore". People get scared and offended when men go away. As much as people love putting all sorts of pressure on men and blaming them for everything, western society is like a child screaming out for it's father when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 05:02 PM
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Hey man, I have a lot of respect for the older married women on here. They are full of wisdom and for the most part they align with my more socially conservative views, somewhat. Of course, you could say they are only that way because they are older and married, but it's all the same regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 10:28 PM
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This thread is going to become an absolute circlejerk about how white men are so racist because they don't like minority women (of all types). This happens on the internet every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 02:14 AM
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Yeah, I could tell you were making an effort there to not step on my toes and I appreciate that. It does annoy me when either feminists or the more red pill types think that guys like me are trying to revive some puritanical patriarchy just because we abstain from watching porn. I have my reasons. I also don't drink alcohol, but that's because I never enjoyed the taste and my body didn't enjoy processing it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 08:48 PM
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What advice would you give to a young guy who doesn't want to inflict that pressure on hypothetical partner, but would still like to have an enjoyable sex life with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 03:08 PM
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It's full of degeneracy, no doubt about that. I've been thinking for a long time about how my contributions as a viewer shape it all. Even though I'm just one guy. I feel better off not watching it. This isn't a debate thread, but I just can't be convinced that it is not that bad compared to Vogue. They've both caused damage, in differing ways. And the effect it has on relations between men and women can only be examined hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 03:07 PM
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So it's a feminist paradise full of women getting everything they want? I've never heard that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 02:51 PM
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I'm not going to say what it was that I saw (quite commonly watched though), but if you want to use the unethical practices of Vogue to make a case against it, I'm sure you could do the same for porn, as others have done before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 02:44 PM
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I don't know, man. Some of the stuff I've watched is definitely more perverse than Vogue and LVMH.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 02:33 PM
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Reddit is just one site where very specific people go to circlejerk quite often about things. Even the most arrogant subs like /r/justneckbeardthings who routinely insult redditors and reddit culture yet still represent reddit are guilty of that. Red pillers will be fine once they realize that this is just one site with specific policies and specific people, and once they realize that this is just one site, they will realize how much potential they have elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/18 12:04 PM
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It definitely helps with that, it also helps me with skin and hair issues. No more dandruff or acne on certain spots of body. It wakes me the fuck up and gives me an attitude that if I can defeat a cold shower I can defeat anything. Allegedly, it gives you more testosterone by freezing the balls (something Soviet bodybuilders did before competitions) but I'm not sure about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 04:23 PM
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Yeah, I learned a long time ago that often times with women, you just can't win. You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. So it's best to not get hung up on one woman, because there's a lot out there, and you have to accept that life is rough and bad things happen. I don't think those women were rich. Well, they weren't necessarily rich in wealth, but they were rich in complaining LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 03:09 PM
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I don't do it for approaching, I do it because I kept reading about all it's supposed benefits, and it bothered me that at one point I didn't have the balls to do it. So overcoming that obstacle gave me a lot of confidence, and it's always rough every time at the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 03:07 PM
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Someone complain to me about it once, and I've also seen women lament about it to each other while I am watching in really negative subs like /r/niceguys and /r/justneckbeardthings or women's blogs. So I'm not saying all women are like this - but a sizeable segment of them are. The theme was the same for all of them, they were disappointed that X guy they liked didn't operate in a certain way and hence the chances of anything ever happening was ruined. I perceive that as entitlement, there are l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 01:31 PM
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My explanation to you is that I've seen over and over, women complaining that guys who end up being "low value" due to their behavior disappointed those women, because those women liked those guys, and the guys end up letting them down. If he wants her he'll pursue Exactly, and many times women will lament that the guys never pursued, which is where the female entitlement comes in. You can oppose guys complaining about the "friendzone" all day if you want, but women are quite entitled themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 01:13 PM
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I take cold showers regularly, does that make me attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 11:54 AM
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I've seen women complain a lot that these friendzone guys are appealing to them, but those guys in question don't operate the way women want them to, and that disappoints the women. That's where their entitlement comes in, it's one thing to whine about being in the "friendzone" but it's another thing to whine that the guys you allegedly sent there aren't good enough. Too much entitlement from people. Not enough relaxation and perception. Sad!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 11:48 AM
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Yeah, that's beyond what I was saying. I was saying that women complain about guys who complain about the "friendzone" to a certain degree because women want those guys to make a move but don't. Those guys are either too scared to make a move or they do it in the wrong way and complain about being "friendzoned". Female entitlement comes into play here when the women in question start whining that the guy didn't do good enough, that he should have been better, etc. Ideally, both parties would ami…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 11:47 AM
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Guys that complain about this, although their presence is extremely exaggerated, dig their own graves. If someone isn't into you, move on, there are plenty of women out there. Or you can just relax and not bother. There are billions of souls on the planet, one getting away is not a big deal. Of course, women never stop complaining about this, because apparently there are lots of guys out there who won't make a move, and women want them to make one, and they don't, and then women fester over it b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 02:42 AM
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Nobody would like to admit it, but OP is the result of rampant frustrated women on the internet. He internalized the ramblings of loser women who failed at life so badly that he is a walking caricature of internet gender discussions and the terms therein. Of course, all the blame is going to be put on his shoulders, not the people who mistreated him in real life or on the internet. I see the terms he is constantly using and it reminds me of feminists from years past who figured out that they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 02:08 AM
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When I see post after post on the internet, in such diverse settings from each other, where people lament about how men aren't the total perfect package, I can only conclude that they want men to be superhumans of some sort. Western men have done everything they can for women, any gaps or faults at this point lies in human error. Maybe when the age of the machines come, or when genetic hacking is more mainstream and reliable, we will see men take on the perfect form that everyone wants them to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 03:51 PM
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Non-whites outside of the west pretty much have no choice but to go for their own, so that takes care of that. I don't feel sorry for them and their self-hatred is self imposed. They are pedestalizing whites and feel entitled to have one, then concluding they are "oppressed" or whatever when they can't get one. There are plenty of people of their own kind that would be a great match for them, but for whatever reason they can't let go of their pedestalization of whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 03:49 PM
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We're on the same page. But the push back against this way of thinking is unprecedented, because people won't admit it, but they expect men to be superhumans who give women all the positive aspects of life and maintain our gender roles while women are free of any burden and liberated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:20 PM
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You are completely correct. But minority women think that attractive white guys not wanting them means they are being discriminated against, lawl. Western society is full of entitlement when it comes to dating and sex and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:18 PM
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I know what I see. They are blatantly not white. Black, asian, middle eastern. Your idea of white guys ignoring minority women is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:56 PM
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Yes, some. Me included. But a lot of people still whine about it and then feign ignorance? Cheer how? I don't follow. I want to make a thread about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:53 PM
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I cannot tell you how many times I've seen people here complain about it and in the wild too. It's not just feminists, which is why my original post did not mention them. I want to start my own thread about this, but I don't think it will go anywhere considering the level of denial people here have about this topic. Despite complaining about it so often, when directly confronted about it they will feign ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:45 PM
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It looks like it got removed, but anyways. Feminists complain about it and even the flip side, which are red pillers/"traditionalists" also complain. One thing they mentioned was most men being in relationships, which is interesting considering how the internet thinks so many men are opting out and oppressing women due to opting out. It's an interesting point to bring up, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:39 PM
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A major problem with that is that true male catches like that still value monogamy themselves, to a certain degree, so convincing those guys to abandon their wife and kids to fulfill some eugenics fantasy is just impossible. I can't see any way past that. At least you acknowledge this plan would only work if supermen and superwomen bred with each other to create a new super human race. As for all the young men dying, feminists tend to forget that male suffering is a thing, it's not like I expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:25 PM
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If you've spent any extended amount of time talking about it, you'd know that almost everything they talked about is linked with that topic. But it's not entirely related, which is why I put it under automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:20 PM
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There is no point talking to me about anything beyond western society, I am not interested in it. Would your selective breeding be racially based? I'm genuinely curious, I don't want to be banned for asking that. Your plan would involve a significant thinning of the entire population, men and women, so next time you go on about oppression, remember that. True selective breeding only works if you make it so the best specimens, men and women, breed. Only focusing on men will not work. You just des…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:09 PM
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I only focus on western society. So again, I ask you, what is the solution in your mind? Complaining about it online perpetually, while the world keeps on spinning? Feminists once told me that nobody is entitled to anybody else, so I think you should take that advice and stop thinking that women are oppressed because not every man is a superhuman Adonis. Real advice for the real world, my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:00 PM
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I see plenty of non-white women with white guys around here, they don't look oppressed to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:58 AM
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That still had nothing to do with what I was originally talking about, but the other reply you gave me just contradicted this one. Go have a coffee, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:45 AM
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Since you can't get that, what are you going to do, complain online that women are oppressed because not all men are awesome superhumans?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:44 AM
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Then why does the internet never shut up about men opting out of society and ignoring women? That's something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:36 AM
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That has nothing to do with what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:35 AM
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A lot of women are obese too, but in this context the internet can't get over the fact that men are not the perfect beings they want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:35 AM
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Male thirst is a hydra with many heads, of course. If men would really do literally anything for pussy, you would see a lot more guys hittng the gym. Look at it this way, the internet has been trying to get guys to be 'better' for years now and all I see is the shaming and complaining ramped up. Clearly it hasn't worked. Someone is in the wrong here, and I'm strongly leaning towards those wrong people being the ones who sit online and lament that men are not all a perfect superhuman archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 10:52 AM
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Shame on you, almighty Sandman, for you vastly underestimate male thirst. Or that's the way I'm reading your post anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 08:50 AM
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The vast majority of men would murder another man if it meant they could get a whiff of a vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 10:57 PM
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I notice that the "women are unhappier than ever!" angle is used as "proof" that women are still "oppressed" or whatever. Here's an idea, how about you solve your own problems like a real woman instead of trying to be an eternal victim. In the eyes of most people, women are eternal victims no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 10:51 PM
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That's good that you do that - and going forward we can both make sure to flag any circlejerking we see. We need a new energetic effort from more people so we can defeat this issue, I think we have a deal. I don't want to contribute more, I'm fine posting here on a rare basis, certain people here really throw me off in a very bad way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 09:13 PM
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I know what I've seen, when you reply to me with that flair I immediately regard you as biased and unwilling to take criticism because that's exactly what's happening. Lets make a deal. We both flag any sort of blue pilled or feminist circlejerking to make things right. I know red pillers can circlejerk too (which I have no problem admitting, while you can't admit your team does the same) so if we report it any time we see it, we can make things better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 05:53 PM
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Yes. This applies to all human relationships. The internet is a conduit through many of us live life. Back in the day, it was the other way around. The solution is to limit our time online, although even I have problems with that as the internet can be addicting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 05:52 PM
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If it's with the right woman, yes. Western society's message of "man up and opt in to society and make women happy!" is extremely destructive. Simply "manning up" and "opting in" with whatever women you can because people on the internet told you to do so avoids complexities such as if you are compatible with the women, how social/asocial you are, if you actually want to do it, and how good or bad the women in question are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 05:47 PM
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But it does happen though. Just because you refuse to see it due to your own biases, that's not my problem. But the joke is on me anyway, because like I said earlier, it's unjust when a red pill consensus is smashed due to circlejerking, and blue pill circlejerking is left alone, but the problem is not people agreeing with each other here, it's mods selectively enforcing the "no circlejerk" rule unfairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 05:44 PM
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Yes, and you and another mod agreed with me that it has happened. All you're doing is representing another particular brand and spewing off what hails from that brand at me. Your MO is to claim society is against you, women are victims etc, this is so old. I did claim it originally. I said that blue pillers, feminists and others are guilty of what we are talking about and circlejerking, but that red pillers and others can also be guilty of it too and often join in, like token people from the "ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 04:27 PM
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You have provided nothing to me to prove what you are saying is correct besides your own extreme bias and persecution complex. The guys complaining here about their lack of luck with women are bombarded with every "man up!" platitude under the sun, from all sides of the aisle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:19 PM
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I'm talking about a very brutal issue that has plagued this community for a long time, and driven many people away. You can't masquerade as a "debate sub" while censoring one side and leaving the other alone, people will call you out on your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:18 PM
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No what? I see them every single day, sometimes more by "red pillers" than blue ones, as I've stated about 5 times now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:10 PM
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I'd rather not participate more, my limited participation is due to time constraints and because this is what feminists and blue pillers do, you have a status quo cater to you an yet you claim that everyone is against you, it gets old. You have your resident phony red pillers you can "argue" with to entertain you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:09 PM
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Yes there are constant posts like that, I'm not saying men don't post about it too, but those posts do exist, just because you're biased and keep denying it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:08 PM
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It's not non-debatable just because you're wrong. All I'm getting here is a mass of biased people who feel offended that their status quo was called out and so now they keep saying "no it's the opposite" in yet another circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:07 PM
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Are you saying that anti-man posts never happen here? If so, you're totally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:06 PM
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Just because you avoid it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 02:06 PM
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So constant posts about how modern men aren't good enough for women is an "anti women circlejerk"? The more you know, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 01:50 AM
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Blue pill circlejerking is a problem, especially when it's allowed by the mods, and my opponents here have admitted it exists, but you will note that in my posts I also admit red pill and other circlejerking exists, and that red pillers can have the appearance of a red flair but start spouting off feminist ideals. I'd just really like the mods to be more fair and actually stay true to their word(s), and my opponents have admitted there have been errors in the past on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 01:49 AM
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I see many men here resigned to the fact that they have to work around feminism, and a lot of blue pillers claiming women have it hard becayse the quality of men has declined, but my top issue is that the circlejerking by that side is allowed by the mods. That is unacceptable if they wish to claim they are impartial and unbiased!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 01:41 AM
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That will be hard to do - I'll have to go back and screenshot every post I've seen. Why do the mods let the blue pill circlejerks go untouched? We need a review of the mod team.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 01:40 AM
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You are providing no evidence I am wrong, you just keep saying things like "you are completely wrong" like you're in a trance or it's part of some mantra. Which is confusing - because you admitted in two posts now that the blue pilled circlejerking was quite bad at one point. You have provided no proof to me that the red pillers also feel persecuted, which I've seen, but blue pillers and feminists are the ones who own the persecution trophy. And don't get me wrong, I wish it wasn't this bad, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 01:27 AM
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I completely disagree with you that "There are more anti-feminists posting anti-feminist things here than there are feminists who are routinely posting about feminism". On top of the blue pill circlejerking, a lot of "red pillers" here who otherwise would have posted feminist-lite ideas on /r/theredpill also hold those same sentiments here. I see it very often, so don't think that I think only blue pillers are the issue here in this off-topic offshoot. I know that some men can claim they are per…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 01:03 AM
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If you're trying to tell me that feminists hardly ever post here, and that the feminists posting here are people pretending to be feminists, I do not believe you. I don't care if the other side claims "society" is against them, I've noticed it's the MO of blue pillers here to claim society is persecuting them and they base their entire e-personas off of that. If you consider that, it makes sense that they want to circlejerk, and I've seen this in many different internet communities for a very lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 12:41 AM
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But how do you know they are phony posts? I know a circlejerk chain when I see one. It's the MO of feminists and "blue pillers" to claim "society" is against them, so have fun with that, but my issue is more with the mods having this vendetta against circlejerking when they are not enforcing the rules properly - the rules that they themselves write, insist others abide by, and base their entire mod existences off of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 12:11 AM
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I'm not sure why you say in one virtual breath that the red pillers behave worse, and then in another you say that the problem exists because of lack of reporting by the red side. You appear to be shifting back and forth between numerous positions here. Perhaps to maintain neutrality. As a lurker and rare poster of this subreddit, I feel it comes across as an unchecked feminist circlejerk quite often, and now I know what I have to do to stop that from blatantly happening. It's not fair if one si…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 09:06 PM
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But if you say red pillers are breaking the rules more, then why are blue pillers left alone for blatant circlejerking? I've seen it a lot, and I kept quiet about it, but if you want to be a good mod team, this is something you should look into more. I myself have never reported anybody, but I don't think blue pill circlejerking is that hard to spot if 1 or more mods are on and it's happening in the open in a rising thread. I don't feel right reporting anybody, and I disagree with you that red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 08:24 PM
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But I don't want this sub to be a feminist circlejerk, it has so much more potential than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 07:48 PM
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It's modded consistently Why would you write such a reasonable post, and then conclude with that? It's not modded reasonably. You deserve credit for admitting errors, but far far more circlejerking happens with blue pillers/others and nothing is done about it, it happens right in the open on a constant basis. This is no skin off my ass since as you can see I have no flair, but the unfairness bothers me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 07:47 PM
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I really hope your explanation is the correct one, because if it's not, then this sub is a feminist circlejerk masquerading as a "debate" sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 07:41 PM
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Second, by definition a circlejerk has to be a poster agreeing with the previous comment or OP As someone who mostly lurks here, I see this very frequently. Yet from my vantage point, it only seems to be punished when it's "red pillers" doing it. Perhaps I'm seeing key flashpoints and not the whole situation, but circlejerking should be punished consistently and across the board, not just when a red pill/conservative/whatever consensus is starting to form.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 07:11 PM
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How well we age has a lot more factors to it, not just being "sensitive". What that term means also varies incredibly depending on who you ask. I'm getting rougher as I age, but I have always kept a soft side to me that I honestly wish I didn't have, but that's just the way life works. What I do now will greatly influence the future. I also don't drink, because I have no interest in it, which gives me an advantage when it comes to staying healthy into the future. I hope you can find my personal …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 02:32 AM
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It's not just women that are drawn to it. Men do it too, to each other. I noticed for a long time that this gets brought up very often when men's issues are discussed. It is used almost constantly as a broad brush to dismiss any male issues. Just because some guy is well off and has a dick, doesn't mean he shares any of his "privilege" with other human beings that have dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 01:37 PM
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>I think this is certainly an ironic unexplored phenomenon of the same people who so vehemently rant against social pressures levied on women. Absolutely, I've noticed this for years. The best thing to do is just ignore her. >Well I think this sub in particular is unique in that it doesn’t reflect a representative sample of Reddit’s user-base, nor does it reflect a representative sample of the population. I lurk here from time to time and post more rarely, and I see a lot of things said here tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 07:31 PM
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A very large portion of reddit's userbase thinks that western society is still very traditional and prude, so asking this on reddit will give you a lot of said responses. I have seen it myself, I remember one particular time, where a woman was being criticized by her two friends for not putting out for a guy and therefore she "blew her chance". It's just a fact that in a certain number of cases, women's relationship prospects will go up significantly if they put out because that's what guys want…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/18 07:13 PM
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It's never happened before. But what I don't like, is when they are too forward with me and act like pseudo-men. When they feel entitled to some sort of validation just because they're women. Those traits are huge turn-offs for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 09:52 PM
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Struggle, perseverance, intensity, willing to uphold what is right at any cost. Rage and intensity can be fun, but I also am aware of the necessity of smooth thinking. No human settlements ever prospered when men were solely offensive. There has to be some creativity there, some compassion, some reflecting, some intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:34 PM
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I like going out on a high note lol, so I can't help you pass any more time. But I saw your profile and I got confused, your long post about othering was there and I thought you were talking to me. That was some great stuff, I couldn't have put it better myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:11 PM
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(or that it's 6am and we've been chatting all through my nightshift XD) I work the night shift too and I hate it. Maybe it's just a matter of phrasing I'm being very self absorbed here and focusing on myself, so perhaps this is why you came to your conclusion, because I was laser focused on myself. AWALT I don't think that exists, I'm just annoyed at the typical knee-jerk responses I get that I've explained to you. All types of people do it. But thankfully I can go do other things and have other…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:13 PM
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Ignoring someone is default behavior for strangers, for both gender. It's not something women are "doing" to men Sure, alright. I think you're trying to use the ignore thing to connect to my earlier point - that issues people face are often ignored by others because that's just how life is. pointing at an entire demographic of people and say "Every single member of that group is uniquely mean." Hah, I can only thank the heavens that I've been around some good women in my life, and for the record…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:52 PM
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"and that is why my life is harder than anyone else's, I'll never escape victimhood because I'm uniquely oppressed and no one will ever understand my pain." I never said that. Men are not 'deprived' of something just because women don't prioritize their dicks. I never said that either. This is starting to make me angry. I give you credit for being patient and understanding at first, and I needed to let off steam, and you made good points, but please don't mischaracterize me like that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:34 PM
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I only discuss these things once in a while now, I meant that the entire human sphere of politics and online debate is tiresome. I just need to let out some steam the rare time. Are you aware that you posted a thread which enables people to do the "woe is me" thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:11 AM
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It's all so tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:37 AM
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I'm not sure why you think I didn't already know that, but as a man experiencing it from this perspective, it's frustrating. Especially when there is a coalition of people who seem to all agree with each other for the sole purpose of the gaslighting and invalidating I mentioned. It happens when straight people talk to queer people, when white people talk to people of color, when Christians talk to Muslims, when men talk to women If I take everything you said there and flip the sides, would you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 07:15 PM
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It doesn't get discussed as much as it should because there is always somebody there to sabotage the whole conversation, gaslighting and invalidating everything men say from start to finish. A lot of guys know this and feel it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 02:50 PM
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The internet just loves telling me that since I'm a man I can't experience any problems, and a lot of it is just a big blur at this point, but I've been harassed in public plenty of times. Groped a few times too, by men and women alike. I've also been persistently offered by a couple women before for them to do sexual acts on me in public, and I know they were just being facetious and malicious and they didn't actually want to do that, but it was very disturbing having to experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:59 AM
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This sub regularly has a smug elitist circlejerk going about average men and how bad they are, and how bad "men these days" are, but I don't feel the same about my counterparts. Average women are just individuals on the planet with their own traits. Some good, some bad. Turnabout is not fair play in this case. I do not agree with certain internet posts which state that average women are fat and blah blah blah. I don't see it. Perhaps standards have been warped for whatever reason, as it seems th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:12 PM
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You did not need to make yet another thread just so this sub could circlejerk about how prude and traditional western society is. The way you think is the norm opinion on this sub and all over the internet, nobody here is going to challenge your view. The problem with this trendy "western society is prude and traditional!" dogma we've been fed the past however many years is that it tends to ignore all examples to the contrary. But hey, if you need to push a narrative, then by all means.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 12:06 PM
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Absolutely not. They are, dare I say, privileged, and have an advantage over guys that are not like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 01:30 PM
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