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Generalichors/r/MensRights01/12/15 10:14 PM
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Feminismichors/r/MensRights18/03/16 09:49 AM
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can you verify these assertions? Id be really interested
/r/MensRights05/09/16 07:53 AM
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If catcalling and objectification in the media cause rape culture, yet women are cat called and objectified in the media more, and to a worse effect, then why is rape culture more pervasive when it is men that are being raped?
/r/MensRights30/08/16 09:37 AM
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Sources?
/r/MensRights28/07/16 09:57 AM
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So you attack the religion, not the people enslaved by it.
/r/MensRights28/07/16 09:57 AM
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When you click on the second article, there are some recommended studies that come up. The first two are one that says that women are favoured two to one and the other is an article saying that results in hiring bias are probably due to researchers bias.
/r/MensRights23/07/16 09:01 AM
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"Religion makes morally normal people say and do morally abnormal things"
/r/MensRights13/07/16 07:31 AM
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Bureau of justice does. I think 35%~ of violent crime and 50%~ of murders are committed by blacks. Considering that they make up 13% of the population, the rate of violent crime by blacks is around the same as men and rape. I haven't read tbe article, but domestic violence is not a gendered issue, so I don't know why we're playing the gender/race switch game.
/r/MensRights03/07/16 07:20 AM
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White ribbon is your go to place for the UK and works closely with Erin Pizzey.
/r/MensRights08/06/16 09:48 AM
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Yh, I've got to agree. To be honest, I come down on the side that depp probably threw that phone at her, and heard is probably trying to take his money purely because she can. Both are wrong and in an ideal world both would be punished Edit: obviously, I don't know for sure. This is simply where I would place a bet
/r/MensRights04/06/16 11:50 AM
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I always give the benefit of the doubt when it comes to interpreting racism, becaus I never think it's a good idea to accuse someone of something terrible with just conjecture. That being said...
/r/MensRights26/05/16 11:32 PM
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It is utterly bizarre that they quote demos, when they recently published a study showing that men are the majority victim of online abuse.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 03:04 PM
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I highly doubt the author of this study checked for any confounders. Is it not equally possible that people who are predisposed to find deviant things attractive simply grow to understand their fetishes through age? It's a bit like gay people. A lot of people are not born instantly knowing that they are gay, they know something is different but often don't fully discover what it is until they're older. At first they're with women, then a drunken kiss with a guy which then slowly develops into ce…
/r/MensRights25/05/16 12:43 PM
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I assume because people started debating controversial topics. I saw that fairly early a Mod had stickied a post warning people about being too opinionated. At the end of the day, if people were warned, the subredit can do as they wish. It's a pretty neutral rule, so I have no problem with it. As for the comments, i saw a few silly people comment about women's higher rate of "attempted suicide". These were largely answered by other commenters with the explanation that people who attempt suicide …
/r/MensRights23/05/16 03:54 PM
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Tbh, I could imagine that it's very easy to accumulate a record of many slights, real or perceived, directed at women. I also imagine that it's very easy to do the exact same but instead when they're directed at men. I wonder if this research will look at both, or just one? sigh
/r/MensRights22/05/16 03:39 PM
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I wish I got half a million to, effectively, bully people
/r/MensRights22/05/16 03:35 PM
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If you want to look good, do something about it. If you don't want to do anything about it, stop complaining about not looking good. I understand that certain things can't be changed, but seriously, what are we supposed to do about that? i just find he whole "body positivity" movement ridiculously narcissistic
/r/MensRights16/05/16 07:22 PM
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Who's Keith Calder?
/r/MensRights15/05/16 10:41 AM
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False accusers aren't violent (by definition), but they definitely are dangerous. Anyway, "violent" sounds like a strange standard for incarceration and definitely at odds with most contemporary justice systems.
/r/MensRights13/05/16 05:45 PM
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Part of the reason men tend to be in better shape is because they naturally have less fat. Secondly, it could be part of the male/female divide of how problems are tackled. Men are more likely, when dissatisfied with their body, change it, while women are more likely to talk about getting other people to change. Edit: that being said, you do get a lot of over weight older men with skinny partners.
/r/MensRights12/05/16 08:10 AM
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I don't use Twitter, but anyone wanna tweet Nick Robinson Askig whether anyone has ever called him a dick, cock or other vaguely offensive term? It would really put this to rest
/r/MensRights10/05/16 03:09 PM
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I've never had it verified, so it may be a woozle, but I always heard that pro-lifers were majority women
/r/MensRights08/05/16 02:59 PM
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This is just hilarious. i thought Judith butler was a joke even amongst feminists
/r/MensRights19/04/16 01:48 PM
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What becomes of a woman who acquires a successful man, with his "success" her sole target? She sabotages herself. She has gained no friend, no ally, no mutual trust: he knows quite well why he has been chosen. She has succeeded in buying something: the esteem of other women who find such an acquisition impressive. Seriously, your quotes are shit and vapid
/r/MensRights19/04/16 01:46 PM
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That's ironic.
/r/MensRights19/04/16 01:43 PM
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why does feminist literature have to be written in such an impenetrable way? Anyway, if you want to make an argument make an argument don't just post shit quotes that have little value Edit: the best bit of this is how it is only argues for the case that boys are shit on, yet just can't help but egotistically and unwarrentedly add that it also oppresses women. Feminism in a nut shell
/r/MensRights19/04/16 01:38 PM
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At least a great song came out of it
/r/MensRights19/04/16 01:32 PM
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I work bloody hard at sunday league. Where's my 100k a week?
/r/MensRights18/04/16 09:48 AM
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I'm not sure anyone is claiming that this proves anything
/r/MensRights17/04/16 02:30 PM
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The difference is that these are lies, not just an opinion you disagree with. I know for a fact that most of those statstics are wildly inaccurate
/r/MensRights17/04/16 04:44 AM
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People like this author make me very sad. The bewildering arrogance, ignorance and self-righteous disdain is suffocating. I don't know much about the TRP but even within his own article he doesnt even seem to feel that he needs to pretend that he's not misrepresenting them. He almost seems proud to misrepresent the TRP and then misrepresent men as this is misrepresentation of the TRP. It's simply sad
/r/MensRights15/04/16 11:17 AM
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great to see how heavily upvoted you were on UKpolitics.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 11:46 AM
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I think something a long these lines is the best form of action. Just state that you feel that this survey is forwarding a specific political agenda that you finding offensive and hostile
/r/MensRights14/04/16 09:31 AM
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You're allowed to hold a pluralist view.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 10:43 PM
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If you're from the UK search up the mankind initiative. Brilliant people doing brilliant work and they're always looking for volunteers!
/r/MensRights13/04/16 10:39 PM
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kind'a reminded me of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH797RUNJIY There's a real culture, especially in military families, that it is bread into you at a young age that you must fight.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 10:20 PM
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I essentially agree with the message, I just want to point out that although a lot of men are unlikely to want to go through the same cathartic procedure as women, that doesn't mean men are less likely to want to understand their emotions and overcome them. I was reading an article about this issue the other day, and I was reminded of the way, I think it was, Wilfred Owen was helped over his PTSD. Admittedly, this was a bit more of a sordid affair than what I want, but it essentially involved hi…
/r/MensRights08/04/16 10:36 AM
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5-7x? The guardian stated that it was 18% to 25% of police killings were unarmed (with a firearm I believe)
/r/MensRights06/04/16 02:43 PM
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Yh, I agree. Enough to find an appartment and support yourself/kids for a few months while you look for a job
/r/MensRights31/03/16 09:27 AM
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I change the channel when ever this comes on. It makes my heart hurt
/r/MensRights31/03/16 07:50 AM
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They almost make it sound like she needs a husband to look after her? Feminists are so damn sexist
/r/MensRights30/03/16 09:04 AM
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They should have made the boys do the chores, while the girl sits on the sofa watchig tv. Then let the girl spend the boys chore's money.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 10:59 AM
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If there are jokes about things it's true? So hitler was right, black guys can't support a family and killing babies is funny??
/r/MensRights26/03/16 12:24 AM
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Someone on here said that "only a feminist could look upon a half naked girl with no discernible talent making lots of money from lonely men as being exploited"
/r/MensRights25/03/16 03:30 PM
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Are there any stats on male net spend? Also stats on the UK or us would be more helpful than global
/r/MensRights21/03/16 10:42 PM
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It depends how you define "real feminist". I think some will go for the dictionary definition, but that isn't substantiated by any feminist theory. I think the best thing to do is to define feminism by what they think, not what they think will be the conclusion of what they think. For example, Islam is known as the religious of peace, and Muslims believe that the religion is the path to world peace. Obviously, not many people in the out-group believe this, so it would be unfair for any Muslims t…
/r/MensRights21/03/16 10:04 AM
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Fair enough. Pleasure takjing
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:58 PM
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although I see the effect in this, I do not think it stops them arguing that in order to remedy this we should adopt the feminist protocol of fighting toxic masculinity etc.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 10:16 AM
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I was using the United states department of justice figures that states 3.2% of prison inmates had reported one or more instances of sexual victimisation in the past year - so I wasnt "pretending". Although, I have just double checked the statistics, and it strangely says that it's an "estimated reported" but I don't understand why you would estimate reports, surely reports are reports or not, there's no need to estimate. Anyway, I had already stated that I believed that the incidents of female …
/r/MensRights18/03/16 08:31 AM
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reported and substantiated are entirely different things. The number of reported prison rapes is incredibly high, the number of substantiated prison rapes is low for obvious reasons. Here, the reported cases are very low, and I can't comment on substantiated claims. I did, also, quite clearly state that obviously actual rates will be much higher than the reported rates regarding infanticide. (B) simply that she talks about sex selective abortion as the death of women yet also holds that foetuses…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:38 AM
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I want more info on the sidebar in general. I think whenever there is a definitive example of institutionalised discrimination found through research or written in law, it should be put there for easy referencing
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:03 AM
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In my eyes, it's a crime that involves sex and is incredibly pervasive to those who are victims of it. I see no reason why it should not qualify someone for the list
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:01 AM
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No idea why you made the claim about me being afraid that it may take attention away from more "pressing issues". Just seemed like a spiteful and unnecessary comment. In India there's less than 100 reported cases of female infanticide a year. Obviously this will be far less than the actual rate, but I can't imagine that it's anywhere near the rate for it to be more than a tiny proportion of the overall number Watson has used. I agree with you on all over points. All in all, it was just a bit of …
/r/MensRights17/03/16 11:56 PM
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Sorry, I got confused. Yes, female infanticide is harming women, obviously. Edit: please note that this is a tiny proportion of the bulk that she's talking about. Not to discredit it, just to contextualise it
/r/MensRights17/03/16 07:58 PM
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it's a sex crime. They should be on the Sex Offenders Register
/r/MensRights17/03/16 04:38 PM
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foetuses aren't people, they are potential people
/r/MensRights17/03/16 04:29 PM
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/r/femradebates for lots of nice responses
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:15 PM
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Oh, I read another article that did not mention this. I apologise.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:04 PM
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it's in a public building, if you want to discriminate and segregate do it in a private building that I don't pay for
/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:51 PM
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I wouldn't want to choose.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 12:41 PM
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I don't think anyone is arguing that widespread infanticide is not something worth talking about. What people seem to be arguing is that it is gross to say that it is a bigger problem than the loss of male lives in war. All of this aside, did you read the methodology for her statistics? It's pretty fucking terrible
/r/MensRights17/03/16 12:39 PM
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Bait-and-switch fallacy here. You can't talk about a problem of women in the developing world and only compare it to the problem of men in the developed world. Edit: also, this isn't a problem for women. It's problem for humanity. No women were harmed, in fact, no one was harmed directly.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:44 AM
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Thanks for the info
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:20 AM
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Thank you for the info
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:20 AM
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I'm asking for someone to substantiate a claim, I'm not trying to be rude
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:18 AM
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Do you have sources? I'm interested
/r/MensRights16/03/16 06:49 PM
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Do you have any sources showing that sons are more likely to take care of their parents than daughters in Chinese culture?
/r/MensRights16/03/16 04:25 PM
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she seems to mince two subjects together: violence against women and gender discrimination. Violence against women is just violence, in the same way that violence against men is just violence. It's not sexist violence
/r/MensRights16/03/16 02:32 PM
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There are gems in barrels!
/r/MensRights16/03/16 08:04 AM
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Can you not appeal to a higher set of mods?
/r/MensRights15/03/16 05:35 AM
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The chick is from Clapham and she's acting as if boys in hoods are there to rape people? I'm going to assume she's privately educated My girlfriend and I were talking about how all our posh friends from university that have now moved to London act like scared animals in the headlights. Living in two different boroughs, both rough, my entire life I've learnt that people only attack you if you walk around with zero self-awareness. My feminist identifying girlfriend agrees.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 02:41 PM
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Equally, could we not apply the same method of taxation but conduct it based on the average earnings by gender and age. I think this is far fairer as everyone is equally advanced in their careers.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 06:29 PM
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Does anyone know where they pulled the "women receive harsher sentences for minor crimes" statistic? From what I've read, the complete opposite is true to a large degree
/r/MensRights10/03/16 06:41 PM
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One of the main dangers of identity politics or social justice is that you forget about the individual. The beliefs hold that justice is to be found at the group level, with the individuals of the group being rewarded or punished according to their groups perceived aggregate "privilege".
/r/MensRights09/03/16 06:03 PM
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Warren Farrell phrases it well. He calls women more "intelligent" as they opt for a less stressful, more balanced life which has the consequence of also earning less.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 01:34 PM
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I never said anything about being exploited. I think your interpreting my position as being far stronger than it actually is. I'm bored of this. Ciao
/r/MensRights04/03/16 06:00 PM
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I am claiming that as society has been built by the men who have slaved over arduous, dangerous work, taking great risks in discovering new lands and sacrificed themselves in war with the consistent view that this is the norm for men - it is fair to say that this is based on the view that men are disposable. You then point out that men consent to this practice. The jobs often need doing and men need work, and (in the majority of situations) it is only men that can perform these jobs. You explain…
/r/MensRights04/03/16 03:52 PM
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So, your argument is that we don't know whether people are accidentally discriminating through subtle subjective views or not, but either way, we should enforce a rule where people are obligated to discriminate the other way? Although I'm not asking you to prove yourself to me, I think you somewhat owe it to yourself to think a bit more carefully about your views...
/r/MensRights04/03/16 01:49 PM
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Well, I'm convinced
/r/MensRights04/03/16 09:13 AM
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Have you any evidence for that ridiculous claim?
/r/MensRights04/03/16 08:30 AM
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If you think they're so blatantly talented and there's so many of these blatantly talented individuals, why do they need quotas? Surely they can just get hired the old fashioned way? Unless... You're accusing wveryone of being racist?
/r/MensRights04/03/16 08:29 AM
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So, your argument is ostensibly that we should take a shot in the dark? We don't hire based on merit, we hire on the vague idea that someone with different skin colour and genitals will have a different perspective and just maybe, this perspective will contribute to a new facet of the film, hopefully in a positive way. I'm not going to lie, but I'm unsure of your business credentials
/r/MensRights04/03/16 08:27 AM
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What's most painful about this statement is the use of "at the least". I don't understand the double think necessary to hold that it is morally undesirable to have less than representative amount of black people but morally desirable to have less than representative amount of white people.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 08:20 AM
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Again, I feel you're being obtuse. I don't think we're gonna get anywhere. Nice talking anyway
/r/MensRights04/03/16 08:05 AM
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You've jumped around a lot. I thought we were discussing the idea of disposability after you had implied that there was some magical sense of "ok"ness with male disposability because they tacitly consent to it. You said there was nothing we could do about it because its vital to the functioning of society, I simply proposed that perhaps something we could do about it is to shift the mainstream position from demonising men to respecting and helping thwm(inspite of the apparently hopeless situatio…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 07:08 PM
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I think you're just being purposefully obtuse now
/r/MensRights03/03/16 09:32 AM
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How about the men that do that work get some respect for having to fulfil the role of the disposable one, instead of being demonised and marginalised?
/r/MensRights02/03/16 10:08 AM
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I didn't necessarily mean the false accusation, but the fact that they'd try screw you over in some way.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:15 AM
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To be fair, I think "drug addict" , not "woman", is the alarm bell in this situation
/r/MensRights29/02/16 12:09 AM
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I never said that it was cultural oppression?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:36 AM
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This is just one aspect of disposability. Looking at it more broadly, it does not seem implausible that we can do something about the perceived disposability of men. For instance, women have done very well in entering the job market, is this not them overturning their perceived weakness?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:51 AM
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I didn't make myself disposable? I don't think any of the many minors, trawler men, steal mill workers etc. did either. So I'm not sure why you're acting as if the disposability of men is somehow their fault. I also don't see why this means that we can't pay attention to the issue and discuss how to possibly fight past it.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:18 AM
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There would have to be quite a big difference in the two populations
/r/MensRights24/02/16 08:59 AM
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don't know why you got downvoted there. you're correct. here's an upvote
/r/MensRights23/02/16 05:57 PM
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i haven't seen any vitriol directed at her, only at the people supporting her allegation. I think anyone who wants to support Kesha, whilst also not supporting her allegation, is going to have a tricky time as her argument for the nullification of her contract is that she was raped.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 05:56 PM
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Any good articles/reads supporting this?
/r/MensRights22/02/16 01:58 PM
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Architectural analogies aren't wveryones cup of tea, I guess
/r/MensRights18/02/16 07:14 AM
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I have always felt the need to reference Lewontin and Gould when asked about the nature of feminism, as I think it is best described as a Panglossian paradigm, painting the spandrels of San Marco. Spandrels are the triangular shaped space left by architectural necessity when arches are placed together as to make a dome. The basilica of San Marco is famed for its beautifully painted spandrels. The spandrels are painted to such an effect that a traveler, upon entering the dome, would believe that …
/r/MensRights17/02/16 04:56 PM
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I always thought the MRA argument was not to demonise the whole population but to show the incredible double standards of feminism. In one instant we have a society that treats rape with the utmost seriousness and disgust, the other is a society that has a far more relaxed view on it (although I do think in every society rape is seen as bad in general). The former is labeled by feminists as a rape culture, while the latter is defended by the same people even when there are actual mass rapes, end…
/r/MensRights11/02/16 06:38 AM
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big up Erin Pizzey. So much respect for an amazing person
/r/MensRights09/02/16 11:42 PM
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I've never quite understood how "liberalism" creates one, whole, consistent thought process. Nonetheless, for the sake of brevity, I would call myself a liberal. I believe in cultural libertarianism: freedom of speech; freedom of art; freedom of choice. I also believe that social policy has a place in a functioning society, that a high standard of universal healthcare and education should be offered for free. I also believe in a benefits system, although one that rewards jobs seekers for getting…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 10:31 AM
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Do you think we live in a murder culture? Or a baby murdering culture? Edit: I'd also like to point out that you're comparing apples and oranges, once again. You said that jokes about rape are sufficient for rape culture as it normalises the topic of rape. You, then, exemplified what you meant by talking threats of rape (you did mention casual jokes about it, but didn't really argue towards their wrongness). Surely people make threats of rape precisely because they know rape is a terrible thing,…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 09:41 AM
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Looool, I'm done with you. "If rape jokes are still normal, we live in a rape culture" wtf?!? You have only served to bolster my claim that feminists are insane
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:48 AM
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You're comparing apples and oranges. The list you gave of insults implying female weakness are ones directed at men, whilst the insults you gave that are male-gendered are insults directed at a man as well. Look at some of the insults directed at women, "you walk like a man", "you look like a man", even "don't be a dick" (this is the equiavalent of the pussy one that is also gender-neutral). It is clear that when you compare like for like, we see that masculinity is used as something ugly, bruti…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:36 AM
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"You're a dick" "men only think with their dicks" "(to a woman) you walk like a man" etc. Etc. Etc.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:30 AM
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I think from this paragraph, if this is to be taken is a standard feminist's assertion, can perfectly explicate why I am not a feminist. Feminism is, amongst many other problems, a conceptual framework that only wishes to view the world with one eye open. Men worry about being robbed or beaten up when they walk down the street shit faced. Yes, women are the overwhelming majority of victims of violent sexual assault, but men are the overwhelming majority of assault and mugging victims. I have bee…
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:29 AM
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You have been looking at the "earnings gap" not the wage gap.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:20 AM
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I always found the best, and most agreeable, definition of feminism to be "the advocacy for and empowerment of women understood through a series of conceptual framework". I think it's intellectually dishonest to try and define feminism without mention of the framework that grounds it, as this is what we argue about. I believe that any feminism with patriachy theory as its back bone is mutually exclusive with being an MRA. I guess my question is, what does your feminism look like? Does it have a …
/r/MensRights07/02/16 08:05 AM
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I can't stress how important the second paragraph is here.
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:56 AM
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When we count "attempted suicide" are we responding to official statistics based on police and medical files, or are we talking about surveys where 100.000 people are asked by survey whether they have attempted suicide and more women come forward?
/r/MensRights02/02/16 10:32 PM
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Yeah, I agree. This definitely isn't sexual harrassment, but if a man were to act in the same way it would be considered, at the least, highly inappropriate. This is the problem.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 08:26 AM
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I guess the problem is that you can't know whether someone is going to be ok with it until you try it. This is what I said about Chris Gayle. Although his comments were inappropriate, people only jumped on him because the woman looked embarrassed. If she had been flattered and accepted, no one (apart from a few feminists - but they'll always complain) would have uttered a word.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 08:25 AM
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they answered the question as to why lesbians earn more without the feminist interpretation, perfectly well.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 10:58 PM
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Oh calm. Thanks for clarifying that.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 01:26 AM
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That demos study says "male public figure" and then "women". Is that simply short hand and that they mean "female public figure", or did they actually compare tweets to "male public figures" with tweets to "women"?
/r/MensRights27/01/16 08:30 AM
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that wasn't my counter-argument. I was saying that it's strange to suggest that one is a real class that deserves proportional representation, while the other does not when there is no apparent reason justifying their deserving. Then, my argument is that we shouldn't "try" to have representative democracy at all. We should have either a democracy or a meritocracy; both have their failings, but at least they're fair. What I find very strange about your argument is that you seem to be placing a mo…
/r/MensRights25/01/16 12:06 PM
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Can you explain what you mean by culture and socialised treatment please? im not sure why population size would matter, especially in this situation as vegetarians make up a large number of the population. My point is that you seem to be arbitarily cutting lines as to what you feel should be represented (and represented proportionally at that) and what should not. Vegetarians, Christians, pot smokers, diabetics, etc. Are all real classes with real interests and real causes they may want to fight…
/r/MensRights25/01/16 11:23 AM
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i don't understand. Are you saying that vegetarians do not have distinct desires, interests and rights they may want to fight for? Or are you saying, that in today's society, women are an oppressed class that deaerve representation in democracy in a way that vegetarians do not deserve? Either one sounds like a bloody hard argument to forward. Are you completely ignorant of the history of the vote or are you just being purposefully difficult? Again, I'm confused
/r/MensRights25/01/16 10:55 AM
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Care to explain why one is a real class and the other is not? Also, there's clearly a lot you don't know about the vote and property rights for women. They're really not the best examples you could have given for men's ignorance of women's issues. On the other hand, please appeal to the last 60 years of government action to better understand my point.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 09:56 AM
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I don't understand why "women" is seen as a real class that representational democracy should represent, while "vegetarians" is an arbitrary one that representational democracy should not represent? Plus, I would say that, although, you are right that in general people act on their own interests, this isn't true when it comes to men and women. Men have been shown, both in experiment and in history, to represent women better than they do themselves as men have a bias to help women.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 08:48 AM
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Since when did we discriminate? I completely understand the rationale for banning single, male refugees just like I completely understand tha rationale of not wanting to walk on the same road as a black man late at night. Yet, just because I understand your argument, it doesn't change the fact that you're still a bigot though.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 08:41 AM
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She kind of admitted that there is evidence for it, she's just applying her feminist interpretation and coming to a different conclusion.
/r/MensRights24/01/16 09:20 AM
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I want a link!!!
/r/MensRights21/01/16 09:42 AM
2

Wow, you manage to do all that and still work a full time job to pay alimony?
/r/MensRights21/01/16 09:28 AM
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Nothing is wrong, they're just, intentionally obviously, poorly communicated.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 04:59 PM
1

I don't think they gave the strawman great points. They gave him poor points, they just gave themselves worse points
/r/MensRights20/01/16 11:53 AM
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I actually think I agree more with the strawman, ngl
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:23 AM
1

There's being politically incorrect and then being an arsehole. The whole point of "politically correctness" is to indict people that mean no harm and cause no harm because some people are offended easily. If Putin called Obama a nigga, I'd struggle to think of a reason he'd do this other than to be an arsehole. Political correctness does t really come into it. On the other hand, if we were to not have said "nigga" in this conversation or when I'm rapping a lyric to my favourite hiphop tune, and…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:57 PM
1

I think their complaint concerns when "females" is used in a sexualised way. It's quite common in working class black communities, and if you're not someone who's exposed to such communities you may have heard it in rap lyrics. Although I do understand their argument, that it downplays women from their humanity, to their sexuality, as "female" has the overtones of being biological, the context in which the term is used makes their argument pointless. When people refer to women as "females", from…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 10:22 AM
2

I had a friend tell me that the virulent attitudes and treatment of male homosexuals over millennia was really sexism because it ignores female homosexuals. I didn't dignify it with an answer other than "you are hijacking a tragedy a bit, aren't you?"
/r/MensRights18/01/16 09:22 AM
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Bravo
/r/MensRights14/01/16 10:23 PM
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No, they should just be added to the sex offenders register. They committed a sexual crime - they are a sex offender
/r/MensRights14/01/16 10:39 AM
1

The fine is part of a code and conduct agreement that he signed. I'm fine with that. I'm not fine with it being called harassment - harassment being a criminal offence.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 09:53 AM
1

and asking someone out constitutes an obstruction to work? As I've said, what he did was inappropriate but, from a common sense interpretation of harassment, a reasonable person would not find what he did abusive, intimidating or humiliating. I just think the definition you are supporting is liable to abuse. I could think of a myriad of a ridiculous situations that could be filed under harassment but are so clearly not. Edit: to add to this, I believe that people "should" be free to do their wor…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 10:50 PM
1

Wow, I guess you're right under US law, at least. I'm really disappointed that the US could have such a poorly written law for such an important piece of legislation. On the other hand though, we can both admit, that from a commonsense perspective, this definitely is not harassment.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:21 PM
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To me, harassment is a serious offence. It is continued abusive, intimidating or purposefully humiliating acts against someone's will. What Chris Gayle did was "mildly inappropriate". I think it was unprofessional of him, but in no way did it "violate the dignity of the individual" (Equality act 2010). There is a serious problem many people have today with trying to extend the private sphere further and further by throwing around aggressive terms like "harassment". It opens up the word to a subj…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:49 PM
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harassed? Really...
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:18 PM
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why would you point out that you're using a logical fallacy in your argument?
/r/MensRights09/01/16 12:27 PM
1

for an individual who works in recruitment, you have a very funny idea of how employment works. But maybe that's just my inexperience, I'll get back to you in ten years.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 04:29 PM
1

I'm not spouting anything from "some counsellor or professor". As I stated a few times, these are employment statistics available from a quick Google search. Secondly, I don't think the need for a "filtering out system", or as your out it, a need for status is exclusively a female thing. You then just proceeded to argue for my side. The majority of these jobs are, yes, management or office roles but that's just the majority of decent wage jobs in any big city. There's not much point in this argu…
/r/MensRights08/01/16 03:59 PM
1

I don't think you understood my argument.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 02:31 PM
1

You do realise law has one of the lowest employment rates? Perhaps we live in very different cultures within very different countries? I can admit that I do not have the life experience that you have, I have just left university and am working my first job. All I have are a few pieces of anecdotal evidence and the statistics. Statistics, though, which are available in the UK on the independent or telegraph post "employment 6 months after graduation" rates. Philosophy has one of the highest, law …
/r/MensRights08/01/16 11:15 AM
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Isn't the persistency a reaction to the woman's power? Obviously, this is no excuse for inappropriate actions, but as some good back and forth is going, I see no reason as to why not expand the arena. I have often been led to the opinion that the higher prevelance of male aggressors is partly down to men being the ones socially required to initiate sex. Sex is very much something owned by women men must compete to get. (Excuse the raw and debased delivery there)
/r/MensRights08/01/16 12:08 AM
1

"Yes means yes" is a brilliant tool in theory. In reality, when you consider how individuals usual interact in these situations, it doesn't quite cut the mustard. It ignores, in so much that it is in friction with, so many of the characteristics of casual sex. I sympathise with the feminist crusade in that we need a better education regarding sex. My problem is that as far as I am aware, the feminist camp has not offered a single good suggestion as to how we better the education. Edit: punctuati…
/r/MensRights08/01/16 12:01 AM
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Would you suggest black men take the same courtesy and avoid white people as to not make them scared? I understand the extension of courtesy, I just disagree that it's healthy to respect a prejudice in such a way.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 11:34 PM
1

I think the problem is that the rhetoric of these "advertisements" is virulent and accusatory. I understand your argument and it definitely wasn't something I thought of, but the comparison is off.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 11:27 PM
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Although, you can definitely say it was inappropriate, I do not think you can indict him for doing it. If it had worked, and she accepted his invitation, we would have called it "charming and spontaneous". It's only because she appeared a little embarrassed by the gesture that everyone has jumped on the bandwagon. We see a woman in discomfort and assume that someone has committed an offense. He's obviously fancied her for a while, seeing this as an opportunity to make his feelings known, and not…
/r/MensRights07/01/16 06:17 PM
4

Hey, at least they admitted it was rape. Now we just need to persuade them that it's bad. Hey, I have an idea! How about consent classes?!
/r/MensRights07/01/16 04:33 PM
2

"we look at race as a social construction" - do we? I always thought it was a rough classification of different gene pools, much like species?
/r/MensRights07/01/16 02:20 PM
1

and I take it you believe that the only possible job a history student can do is be a historian? Degrees are largely just stepping-stones, a way to show employers that you have a certain set of skills. Philosophy tests for these skills well - better than many other degrees, so is favourable amongst employers. Actually, why take my word for it, just google it...
/r/MensRights07/01/16 09:19 AM
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You do realise philosophy is one of the most employable degrees offered? It nearly always comes at the top of the arts and usually intermingles with degrees like physics and biology.
/r/MensRights06/01/16 11:38 AM
2

A lot of the 3rd wave terminology attempts to embolden words with a characteristic that isn't included in their actual meaning. "Microaggression" is a great example of this. I read an article from a friend's publication (radical SJW stuff) that told the tail of a half Indian girl being invited to her university friend's house in the country. The friend was typically Middle England, so the family were very white and by virtue of their surroundings, would know only white people. The girl began to …
/r/MensRights29/12/15 11:02 AM
1

Wow, Asher d is an MRA. Bang bang - Gaining those celebrities
/r/MensRights29/12/15 10:39 AM
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I think they meant that the pro-lifer's argument is about the foetus and not about the women's bodily autonomy. In other words, the abortion debate is not about gender; it is bodily autonomy v. the sanctity of life; gender does not play a factor.
/r/MensRights26/12/15 12:55 PM
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Oh, I got that. It was my poor attempt at a joke...
/r/MensRights24/12/15 01:07 PM
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Is this a fat joke? I don't get it
/r/MensRights24/12/15 11:30 AM
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"celibacy" is not a "treatment" for erectile dysfunction??
/r/MensRights21/12/15 10:00 AM
2

Freddie Gibbs has the line: "wish I could say it was accidentally. Like I stepped on a banana peel and fell in that pussy". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwC5ePDNkp0
/r/MensRights20/12/15 04:01 PM
3

apparently the jury took 30mins to reach their verdict. What I am assuming is that either the court was bought out or the media is omitting vital information because the story sounds better that way.
/r/MensRights20/12/15 03:59 PM
2

University, at least in England, is no longer for the elite. It's for everyone. A lot of below average students will attend these days.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 10:30 AM
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I've wrestled with the idea that having more women in university may be the just outcome of equal opportunities. If we are to use IQs as a rough standard for intelligence, women cluster around the mean while men tend to operate on either side of the spectrum more often. This could lead to the phenemonon we currently see, more women have the standard required to attend university than men, despite, the mean intelligence being equal. Wherher this has any verisimilitude, does not matter because I d…
/r/MensRights17/12/15 08:19 PM
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I think it's quite an upper-middle class, traditionally english name. Feminists are mostly from this demographic
/r/MensRights17/12/15 03:20 PM
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The explanation I gave about "there are no women on the internet" was less of an argument to be believed and more of a perspective to think about. That being said, it looks like you've done the work you gave me for me. Thanks :D
/r/MensRights17/12/15 12:08 PM
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I used to game a lot when I was younger. People used to call you horrible shit and make threats to you all the time. Is this the kind of online abuse she's taking about? On another note, I saw an imgur image that lifted a screenshot from a 4chan post. It was an explanation of the phrase "there's no girls on the internet". It explained that the phrase is not meant to be taken literally, but is meant to explain that on the internet everyone is anonymous, as even if you profile yourself as a woman …
/r/MensRights17/12/15 11:54 AM
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That's interesting. I'll give it a look over in the morning. Thanks
/r/MensRights14/12/15 11:40 PM
1

I don't think that's true. Asian men seem to be more hardworking than white guys. Plus, black people when given private education etc. Etc. Perform to the same standard as white people. That being said, it's not discrimination, it is the economic prosperity of whites that puts them above blacks in the rat race.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 10:35 PM
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Yh, I completely agree.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 09:57 PM
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Oh, i agree. I understand the distinction between hating women as a whole and, then, personally checking out of relationships. I just think that you should not let bad experiences colour your perception entirely. As I said, the love of and loving women is a great joy in life, and I feel sorry for anyone who does not want to experience that
/r/MensRights14/12/15 12:55 PM
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I whole heartedly agree. I do believe the large majority of young, educated women (which is who I'm gonna go for) have been manipulated by feminism, but they're not too far gone to believe that they're tainted goods. Most women are lovely people who have just been fed a lot of shit. Why deprive yourself of the love of a woman, it's an amazing thing and not worth the sacrifice just to not have to deal with a few shitty opinions
/r/MensRights14/12/15 10:35 AM
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I giving them props and I've never even heard of MSNBC. I'm from the UK. I tend to not go to any one media outlet, left or right for my news because I know none can be trusted. All I'm saying is that usually, the shit I see from FOX or, in our case, the daily mail, is reactionary drivel. This, on the other hand, is very good.
/r/MensRights14/12/15 09:47 AM
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The same thing is happening in the UK. The voice of reason when it comes to these issues is coming from the outlets that are usually the voice that lacks all reason. I think it just shows how enfeebled the mainstream narrative is at the moment
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:40 PM
2

The most enthusiastic perpetuators of the hyperagency/hypoagency divide are feminists.
/r/MensRights12/12/15 09:08 AM
3

Don't forget "the wrong kind of feminist".
/r/MensRights10/12/15 11:07 PM
1

This made my day
/r/MensRights10/12/15 12:09 PM
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Neither of your sources provide any evidence for your claim. Also, it's quite easy to find info on racist cover ups. Google the Blue Wall of Silence and the Klu Klux Klan. I'm not denying that what you're claiming has never happened, I just get frustrated that it seems to be such a big part of the rape culture narrative yet there is no evidence on it. It seems strange to me
/r/MensRights09/12/15 04:34 PM
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Do you have any evidence for the first claim? I'm interested because this seems to be a big part of the rape culture narrative but i've never heard of any evidence for it within contemporary western society
/r/MensRights09/12/15 03:00 PM
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Hello, philosophy graduate checking in. Obviously, I have not read Cirioux's essay, nor have I read yours, but the criticisms seem valid. Although, this does not mean that Cirioux's essay is any good. From what I got from the short response is that Cirioux is advocating a sort of Panglossian paradigm. From her understanding, no amount of counter-evidence can count against women's victimhood as she has set up her theory so that anything we see as evidence against her theory works in favour of her…
/r/MensRights09/12/15 10:48 AM
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I'm inclined to believe no one until evidence either way has come about. The problem is that not everyone takes this approach, and because of this an innocent man (yes, you are innocent until proven otherwise) has had to suffer consequences.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 05:46 PM
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"Why do so many hardcore trolls target women..." - I swear the research done into online abuse showed that men were by far the overwhelming victim of all types bar rape threats. I think the difference is that men tend to have the reaction of "oh, it's just kids. While women, and these women tend to be femnisists, say "Oo, I can gain publicity out of this"
/r/MensRights07/12/15 10:48 AM
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I really want to know the measures that placed the UK as "the most in-your-face sexist country in the world". I also want to know what stats show that "we treat women badly", I have never seen one.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 04:42 PM
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Admittedly, I'm a bit of a newbie :/
/r/MensRights02/12/15 12:06 AM
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35:55 His argument is ostensibly the same made by a creationist. "Despite the overwhelming evidence supporting your argument, you have not definitively proved your argument. For that reason, I can't entertain the slightest possibility that your argument could be correct. Coincidentally, I have my theorem. My theorem would be disproved by your argument having any validity whatsoever. Although, mine's definitely correct because of how I've interpreted the world"
/r/MensRights01/12/15 10:19 PM
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nw g, rereading my "it's a term I coined" makes me wince with how pretentious and arrogant I sound.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 05:05 PM
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No, there is a world of difference between the two, and, this difference lies in how we perceive and react to the two cases
/r/MensRights01/12/15 01:52 PM
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Reread my original post. It's a term I coined.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 09:18 AM
2

Well, this is an instance of "accuser-blaming".
/r/MensRights30/11/15 10:37 PM
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Has anyone accused of rape been acquitted, or some such ruling that does not find them guilty, because of the fact that the person was a "slut", or dressed provocatively? Victim blaming is such a big part of the rape culture narrative, but has there ever been a case of victim blaming in court: where the individual was found to have been raped but their rapist was not convicted because of the actions or choices of the victim? In my opinion, the only two cases that resemble victim blaming would be…
/r/MensRights30/11/15 04:01 PM
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Thank you
/r/MensRights28/11/15 12:25 PM
2

I have always used this example to demonstrate how women, when given the full freedoms and opportunity western society offers, incline towards the arts and social sciences. It's brilliantly bizarre how two people can look at the same trend and come to different conclusions. A death of a thousand qualifications, I guess
/r/MensRights28/11/15 10:46 AM
1

Anyone got a YouTube link to the debate?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 10:11 AM
1

Anyone got a YouTube link to the debate?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 10:11 AM
1

When does this come into effect and how do we campaign against this? The government cannot simply take away my right to due process; it simply cannot treat me as a criminal without a shred of evidence.
/r/MensRights27/11/15 03:54 PM
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everyone in the thread speaks about FGM as if it is one distinct practice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but FGM is a term given to many different practices. Some completely debilitating, some pretty much on par with MGM in its last effects?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 06:24 PM
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I'm happy the man on the far right did not shy away from the claim that it is only dangerous if you are a white, heterosexual man with an opinion. The problems with PC culture are starting to gain mainstream media footing, but from what i've read, it seems people are still afraid to call out the racism, sexism and heterophobia that is part and parcel with this generations PC war.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 10:18 AM
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What I find strange, especially from an activist fighting for black rights etc., is how he takes the statistic at face value with no exploration of why this statistic is. When we hear that the majority of violent crime in America is committed by black people, we don't say: "they are naturally violent"; or "black culture is toxic". What we do, is try to work out why black people are led to violent crime. Why don't we do the same for men? Why don't we notice that men are the majority of those in j…
/r/MensRights17/11/15 11:04 AM
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What time is it on? Doesn't seem to say on the webpage.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 09:11 AM
2

source? This is incredibly sad, yet believable, if indeed it is true.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 10:37 PM
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I never realised how perfectly this story fits feminism
/r/MensRights10/11/15 09:20 AM
7

All this business just reminds me of the "sexual harassment panda" South Park episode
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:43 PM
1

what is the 3c pay gap attributed to, if it still exists after controlling relevant factors? I'd assume pay and bonus negotiation, but I'd like to see some research into it
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:41 PM
2

I also dislike it when people take their identity too seriously, and attempt to interpret misandry onto everything. But, for the instances that I have seen when MRAs complain about violence depicted against men, it is not the violence in and of itself, but the double standard that exists when violence against men is a source of comedy and violence against women is taboo
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:44 AM
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that has nothing to do with MRAs. Also, I watched that video and it was clearly fake. The camera quality was far too good and the bottle was clearly fake as it smashed far too easily and into far too many fragments. I've seen many people bottled, and by far stronger people than the person in the video, and they never break like that.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:42 AM
1

I didn't say or imply that?
/r/MensRights07/11/15 06:27 PM
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"Physical safety unequally impacts females more than males" - lol wat? I assume this person has never done any research into this? "[there is a lack of] attention given to, and the outcomes of, decisions being made that specifically effect women" - again, lol wat? I, again, assume this person has not done any research?
/r/MensRights07/11/15 11:52 AM
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Also, primary and secondary education tends to be set up to advantage women. Less competition, less physical activities to help learning, more listening and being quiet etc. Etc.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 12:17 PM
1

A point to note about this argument. This may be true, but what's strange is that no one speaks up about it. Germaine Greer, one of the most influential feminists of the 20th century, makes an off-colour statement about transwomen, and she is publically denounced from all angles wiith a spring of articles. On the other hand, I have not heard one person, or seen one article, that publically denounces the likes of bahar mustafa, Julie bindle, Jessica valenti. It seems strange to me, that if it is …
/r/MensRights30/10/15 11:27 AM
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This is a good point actually. Yes, I have found some feminists that acknowledge men's issues, but it always seems ingenuine: the reason men commit suicide is reasoned to be because of the patriachy or the reason men are just as likely to suffer from IPV is because of the patriachy. This is not helping men, what it is, is the simple admission to our facts but rejection of our narrative as a compromise.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 11:14 AM
2

There is a huge problem with sexual assault on today's campuses. The problem is that sexual assault is not dealt with properly, but instead through a horrible sexist and unforgiving perspective lead by bias, fanatics.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 10:25 AM
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I think my main problem with these consent classes, aside from the fact that it's clearly an effort to push the ridiculous rape culture narratice, is that it misunderstands sexual relationships. Consent classes would work if sex was like a bussiness transaction; cold, formulaic and mechanical, where by you could read the rules and apply them for perfect success everytime. Unfortunately, sex doesn't wuite work like that. Sex, or pursuing sex, is a game of subtlety much like poker: it involves rea…
/r/MensRights15/10/15 03:03 PM
1

That piece was satirical. Part of the problem with Milo is that he loves a wind up, and it's often hard to tell the difference as to whether he is advancing an argument because he cares or because he just wants to rant about something that will get a reaction.
/r/MensRights14/10/15 11:32 PM
1

Are they just for men to attend, or are they compulsory for everyone?
/r/MensRights14/10/15 11:28 PM
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The best bit is that the other women on the panel are known online harassers, like randi harper. Im just giving benefit of the doubt to the UN here and choosing to believe that it's all elaborate satire
/r/MensRights07/10/15 05:28 PM
3

Shit flinging monkeys really, init?
/r/MensRights06/10/15 07:48 PM
1

i think there's two main problems with this. Firstly, it criminalises an act that 99% of the time is a perfectly polite way to sit in comfort for men. Men have balls, so sitting with your legs slightly wider is necessary for comfort. Out of all the pictures I have seen online of "manspreading", it has been a tiny minority of those that are actually causing any discomfort to fellow passengers. Secondly, should we be policing manners? It's a little like arresting people for not saying please or th…
/r/MensRights06/10/15 09:08 AM
1

"Don't wait until it's too late... Unless you're a man, then you can wait until 9am the following morning"
/r/MensRights27/09/15 10:31 AM
1

Surely, if the argument is that "fenales" holds a sexualised subtext to it, then it makes perfect sense as to why you'd say "females" in a certain situation as opposed to "women". I think the word may not hold the highest callibre of respect, but it's definitely not indicative of a wider sexist narrative. It's just a word that is used in a certain situation to highlight the sexualisation of the person in that situation. To believe that it is inherently sexist, you'd have to disregard all the way…
/r/MensRights27/09/15 10:27 AM
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"If you don't want to give women special treatment over men, then you have raw hatred towards women" :/
/r/MensRights26/09/15 09:57 AM
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Yes Jezza! His show is a pile of shit, but he strikes me as someone to have a consistent moral compass and he definitely showed it there.
/r/MensRights25/09/15 09:29 AM
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This is old, but here's an argument that I concocted to show why this is segregation and nothing more. The assumption is, is that men pose a threat to women, and that as this threat exists, women should be given a restricted space to protect them from such. Although, obviously not all men, it would be too hard to separate the two prima facie, so the law acts as if all men pose a threat to women. Women are thus protected from potential attackers. Now consider, white people are scared of black peo…
/r/MensRights24/09/15 03:14 PM
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http://arhiva.dalje.com/en-world/sweden-to-abolish-affirmative-action/289636 A good example
/r/MensRights24/09/15 08:25 AM
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I'm talking about abortion in law, not abortion as an individual choice.
/r/MensRights23/09/15 10:11 AM
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I'm fairly sure abortion affects men. it's not like we are animals that once a baby is conceived the man leaves to go roam the plains for another mate. We form relationships, we mutually care for children, and in situations where we do not, we have laws to ensure that the man must support the child financially. I would never suggest that men have a right to decide a matter so entwined with a woman's body, but it is definitely an issue that affects us.
/r/MensRights23/09/15 09:02 AM
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It is unfalsifiable like feminist theory, so to someone like Popper, it would not be considered a science at all. The main difference between them is that evolutionary psychology actually makes a lot of sense, it produces accurate predictions and seems to work consistently through much of the animal kingdom.
/r/MensRights23/09/15 08:50 AM
2

Good poetry and feminism don't seem to be too complementary though...
/r/MensRights21/09/15 12:48 PM
1

Yeah, that's a good point. It almost feels like feminists want to keep these situations ambiguous, instead of helping women find the bravery or confidence to be strong in their thoughts. Also, it's important to recognise that quite often people will say "no" despite their body language saying "yes". I read an article where a woman recounted a time where she slept with a man, despite saying no multiple times as she had a boyfriend, yet admitted that it was exactly what she wanted with her body la…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 08:37 AM
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In agreement with you, I've always wondered why feminists believe the best way to tackle the third question is to put responsibility on the head of a drunk person who is struggling to interpret body language, rather than the person who is clearly uncomfortable with the situation. As you said, they should be teaching the potential victims to be more assertive - would be a lot quicker and a lot less messy. Also, bristol graduate and we had no rapists. Over 3 years, there was one situation where ra…
/r/MensRights19/09/15 10:43 AM
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The argument is that he consented to it, so she was not given a jail sentence. Does that mean, that if a woman consents to FGM, the perpetrator would also receive a suspended jail sentence?
/r/MensRights18/09/15 10:21 AM
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Couldn't agree with this more. The act in question is merely humans discussing other humans in a sexual context as of which is perfectly healthy and natural. On the other hand, the fact that it is permissible for women to do this and not men is a sexist double standard.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 06:22 PM
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why are you assuming that he used the verb "cluck" because she is a woman? Has he described all women as clucking, regardless of their argument, whilst using a more positive word for men, regardless of their argument? No? Well, then, can you please not bring these dodgy feminist interpretations here. I'm all for feminists having a presence here, just please don't act immaturely like that - you have your own sub reddit for that Edit: can't write for shit on my phone
/r/MensRights17/09/15 11:28 AM
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yeah, I second this. Would love to hear a "rational feminists" answer to this
/r/MensRights16/09/15 05:34 PM
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Yes, but the suffering of the 1.9 million men doesn't matter because it's men raping men. It's just the patriachy misfiring - deal with it. </s>
/r/MensRights16/09/15 10:17 AM
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I like the irony here, surely if it "sort of implies that minorities are published because we're minorities, not because of our work" and that this is "insulting". Then, surely, minorities using white, male names implies that "white men are published because they're white men, not because of their work", which of course is "insulting".
/r/MensRights09/09/15 07:04 AM
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Surely, the question of whether they work or not is irrelevant? At the end of the day, it's misandrist segregation, which is wrong. You wouldn't justify white only carriages by explaining that they have ensured that white people are not attacked by black people on the trains. I just don't understand how you could try to defend such a sexist policy
/r/MensRights08/09/15 11:02 AM
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Personally, I would rather enter into conversation. Conversation will nearly always lead to a better understanding of the situation.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 03:58 PM
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If you've taken the time to reread it and you still understand it so then I see no use in talking to you. Thank you for the conversation.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 01:27 PM
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I give up. You're either purposely misconstruing me in order to reply or you're not taking the time to read my replies properly. I corrected my use of "responsibility" as I admitted that it was obtuse, apart from that I cannot see why you don't understand the point I'm making. A pleasure talking nonetheless.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 01:13 PM
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Ok, this is the final word I'm saying on this because you're not paying attention to the nuances of my argument. I'm not saying that they are to blame for being raped. Never have I said. What I have said is that rape can often have been prevented. There are TWO issues: 1) people being raped, 2) people raping. So, if you want to stop people from being raped (note: this has nothing to do with blaming people, it's simply about stopping rape), the best way to handle it is to tackle both problems. Th…
/r/MensRights20/08/15 01:03 PM
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Ok, maybe you did not purposely misconstrue it, but you have definitely misconstrued it. I have not said that is the issue (period), what I said is that these are valid assertions of how to prevent rape, as, at the end of the day, you will never stop people from trying to rape. I guess you could understand it as a dichotomy of issue: on the one hand, there are ways we can try and stop people from raping, on the other hand, we can try and stop people from being raped. Do you get what I am saying?…
/r/MensRights20/08/15 12:49 PM
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And I'm asking you. So far, I am making good counter arguments to everything you're offering in defence of rape culture. If you want to defend it, and in turn have a discussion, put forward a good argument. Edit: also, your response to my comment about preventative measures seemed to almost purposely misconstrue what I was saying
/r/MensRights20/08/15 12:33 PM
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You gave one point, other than "through hyperbolic and deliberately controversial activism", which was that the onus is put on women not to get raped? I have never actually seen this, apart from people making very common sensical observations like "don't walk through parks at night"; "don't go home with strangers" which applies to every crime not just rape (for example, don't walk through a dark park you may get mugged). Again, you said as a theory it has a lot right but MRAs do not understand i…
/r/MensRights20/08/15 12:27 PM
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So you're agreeing that much of rape culture is a farce? I take it you also agree with my humour-gap hypothesis? I also haven't seen any MRAs make statements to that effect (although I've only been here for 4-5 months). Perhaps, you're confusing MRAs with Redpillers?
/r/MensRights20/08/15 11:07 AM
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I don't understand why that term has then leaked into use for the general population then? The phrase is used to convey a culture present amongst those we can probably assume to be the worst of society to convey how they treat men in the absence of consenting women (perhaps im conjecturing that they're all consenting, but we can assume that most would be). What's clear is that this study is in no way indicative of society as a whole, and is only at a strenuous push indicative of how these men ma…
/r/MensRights20/08/15 10:55 AM
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What is it, please explain? I've heard various arguments made in passing which I haven't found convincing. One of my main problems is the phrasing: "rape culture" - my best understanding of it is not that there is a culture of rape, so the phrase is very misleading. A better phrase would be "a small paradigm of thought within a tiny subsection of civilised society that can at times blur the lines of consent". Btw, the 1/4 claim is flat out incorrect. Although accurate figures , for obvious reaso…
/r/MensRights20/08/15 09:24 AM
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The problem isn't her being offended, the problem with it is her labelling it misogynistic. Just because a man says something about a woman that is less than what the woman desires it does not mean it's misogynistic. Do you think Brad Pitt thinks the hordes of women who write stuff like this about him on the Internet are misandric? Even, do you think if a woman writes that about Brad Pitt is she misandric? Edit: I cant spell
/r/MensRights19/08/15 05:16 PM
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I read Penny's article and her ability to misunderstand Miller's argument is hilariously ironic. He is very clearly using this point to highlight the fact that at a debate set up to discuss economics, Penny refused to enter into the discussion due to the "gender politics". Her argument is living testimony to the divisiveness of gender politics and its smeering of the bigger issue. Yet, she just ignores the fact of her actions and still carries on. It's bizarre. Thanks for the thought-out comment…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 10:57 AM
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I'm not sure what the MRA hold as an official position on this matter, but I can give mine. As a few have already eluded to, it is important to recognise that traditional gender roles do not out rightly oppress women. In certain social relations and situations, women may be limited by their gender role, but they will also be afforded many comforts from it. For instance, traditional gender roles will view women as the carer so may be pressured into such a life style. On the other hand, traditiona…
/r/MensRights09/08/15 10:37 AM
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Are we all going to gloss over the fact that you can be put on the sex offenders list for 10 years for touching someone's boob?
/r/MensRights06/08/15 10:29 AM
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I'd assume "Poe's law" here. The claims made and phrasing in which they are made seems flippant, almost sarcastic. For instance, "gender which everyone knows is a social construction... Etc" seemed to be taking the piss out of the way some people accept this only part-true at best statement with no scepticism. I'm hoping I'm right anyway
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:23 AM
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Why didn't you just explain why it's pinned as a "all-female ghostbusters"? 1. The original ghostbusters was all male. 2. The new one is all-female. The reason another remake would not be cast as a "all-male ghostbusters" is because it was already all male. Also, considering casts are more often male, and feminism is a hot topic which will obviously sell you lots of tickets, it seems like a good promotion point to label it as an "all-female ghostbusters". Therefore, the fact it is labeled an "al…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 12:03 PM
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I'm not sure whether this was posted in order to "prove the patriarchy", but if so, check the graph linked as recommended. It's for national, gendered reading abilities. Girls greatly outstrip boys - pretty much to the same degree as boys out strip girls when it comes to maths. Why don't feminists, who aim at gender equality, bash on about some matriarchal tendency to push boys out of this subject etc.
/r/MensRights01/07/15 02:31 PM
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I'm not sure whether this was posted in order to "prove the patriarchy", but if so, check the graph linked as recommended. It's for national, gendered reading abilities. Girls greatly outstrip boys - pretty much to the same degree as boys out strip girls when it comes to maths. Why don't feminists, who aim at gender equality, bash on about some matriarchal tendency to push boys out of this subject etc. Seems like a ridiculous selection of facts in order to perpetuate a dead narrative.
/r/MensRights01/07/15 02:31 PM
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