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| 0 | For the record, on child support, | ieattime20 | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 04:24 PM |
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| 3 | I love how the whiny feminist morality brigade upvotes a user named "ICumWhenIKillMen."My issue isn't just with his attempt to trigger. My issue is with his complete disregard for another human beings' feelings. You do not threaten to rape people, most especially those who have had a traumatic experience, as an intelligent non-12 year old. That shit is low-fi, it is unacceptable, and it says a lot about a person. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/12 03:54 PM |
| 16 | I love how the whiny feminist morality brigade upvotes a user named "ICumWhenIKillMen."Threatening to rape someone for saying that making rape jokes isn't OK. Put that into perspective. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/12 10:55 AM |
| -1 | No, seriously, what about the truth? - Feminist blogs pretending to help menstating that the only thing that needs to be done to help men is to remove (i.e. change) the male gender role, while simultaneously lobbying for more special treatment for women, whilst denying men a fair chance, ignoring the fact that men don't have equal rights, that women don't share equal responisbilities/duties, men aren't treated equally under the law All or most of these are a result of the gender roles feminists claim to want to eliminate. There's no difference. Child support and alimony… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/12 06:04 PM |
| 10 | Here's an example of how and why many people believe that rape is everywhere... because their definition of rape includes every sexual misadventure.They were basing their arguments on limited information And drawing conclusions from it. points with wrench There's yer problem. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 07:24 AM |
| 0 | Double standard example: Female teacher has sex multiple times with 14yo student, gets arrested, pleads guilty, ends up with 3 DAYS in jail.Puberty is nature's age of consent. Consent comes from cognitive ability, not from genital development. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/11 01:13 AM |
| -10 | Double standard example: Female teacher has sex multiple times with 14yo student, gets arrested, pleads guilty, ends up with 3 DAYS in jail.And squares are not quadrilaterals. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/11 05:28 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,The range overlaps significantly, so no it is not fair to say that condoms strictly have a higher failure rate than the pill. Please don't argue with numbers. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 02:16 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,Condom failure rate in comparison to other forms of contraceptives is 15% Yes, if you don't use it correctly every time. 2% otherwise. Whereas the pill/other hormones can be 8% ineffective in a woman. So, no, it is not fair to say that condoms strictly have a higher failure rate than the pill. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 11:35 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Condoms aren't covered by any health insurance scheme and have higher failure rates than the pill. Citation? Condoms are 100% effective if used properly, i.e. lube, careful placement, and changing after 15 minutes. Condoms, aside from latex allergy, also don't cause adverse reactions in men. Vasectomy is a permanent solution that requires sperm to be frozen and IVF if he wants children in the future. So? Lots of female contraceptive options mess with chances of successful birth, like IUDs. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/11 02:20 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,Your only proposal is the constant spouting of condoms and vasectomy while dodging the greater amount of options and considerably more effective options open to women. If the woman had taken those options there wouldn't be a discussion, now would there? Why would I bitch and whine about what she hasn't done in the past when it's far too late for that? Men have reproductive rights, they can control their reproduction. That's not even part of the discussion. They've already reproduced. What you're… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/11 02:16 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Child Support is not pro-men in any fashion OK, then why the hell did you mention BC? Which are we talking about? I will be happy to address your points but I need to know they won't change immediately after my response. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/11 05:06 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,I was not aware you didn't know how to buy condoms or get an outpatient $200 procedure. You are arguing by force of assertion rather than by dealing with the actual counterarguments. You have not addressed the fact that men have options for reproductive choice. | /r/MensRights | 01/08/11 04:54 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,After sex happens, yes, a woman can in fact decide that. Yes, in fact, after you have imparted your due responsibility for the act, other people can change the circumstances. This doesn't mean you have no responsibility. It's like you're an accomplice for some crime, and you're saying "Oh, well my partner didn't HAVE to go to the police, after we'd both committed the crime, so I shouldn't be forced to go to jail." The fact is, it takes both of you to make a child. At no point after the fact does… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 10:15 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,the woman deciding on her own to have a kid). Dude, I hate to tell you, but a woman cannot decide on her own without your participation to have a kid. How do you protect yourself from a woman you haven't met naming you as the father, and the letter gets lost in the mail? I dunno, the shield of probability I guess is what I call it. In terms of that article, it fucking sucks, just absurdly sucks, but injustices (far more common ones) happen in the justice system because of errors every day. There… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 09:20 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Oh wait, what if she's fucking random guys every night? Too bad for her, that doesn't give her the right to force guys to pay for kids they never wanted. Uh, it's not about what she's doing. It's about what both of them are doing. Why do you people think that CSS is something inflicted upon you by a woman and not by having a fucking kid? Since financial abortion doesn't exist, that is a false statement. Fucking horseshit. You do not have all the options that a woman does but I can go ahead and t… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 05:31 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,you're arguing that if a woman didn't know whether a man was on the non-parent registry or not, then she might not have (unprotected?) casual sex. Yes, I am saying that putting your name on a list that not even close to everyone could even possibly get up to date on is not sufficient reason to excuse yourself from parental obligations. why we should not give men the right to protect themselves from not being forced into parental obligations You already have the right to protect yourself from par… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 05:20 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,If you believe that a man has to chose between sterilisation or celibacy to be absolved of any responsibility in resulting pregnancy. OK, shithead, you don't know how to read: You should probably know that I am all for a father-to-be being able to go to court in the first 3-6 months (not dead set on the issue) of pregnancy and state that he is the father and that he wants to absolve all rights and obligations of parenthood So let me get this straight: Until men have a 'pill' of their own I don't… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 04:07 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,We're not talking about whether women have any say. We're talking about whether men have any say. And they do. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 04:04 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,I feel pretty much the same way about ending the requirement of child support from the father. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 03:51 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,He can give up all responsibility prior to a window of abortion (for the woman), but after that he is responsible for child support if the woman seeks CSS. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 02:43 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,The state will (probably) not do anything without her say-so. You are at the mercy of this individual in a divorce. Yes, another party can bring suit of you if you fail to meet your obligations. This is not something that is remotely desirable to rid ourselves of in society. Ultimately the CSS obligation to support your kids comes from the state. And your mortgage doesn't garnish your wages or force you into bankruptcy. It doesn't do anything. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 07:11 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,You are using the same "too bad, you had sex!" line of reasoning used by anti-abortionist fundamentalist fuckholes way back when. Yes, that excuse is insufficient when talking about whether it is moral or voluntary to abort an unborn fetus. But circumstances are quite different when you're talking about child negligence, aren't they? Since the woman has a choice in whether she has a child or not, should she be forced ot pay child support if the father has custody? What can a man do when a child … | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 06:11 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,(BTW, I'm only mentioning condoms because they are the only BC method that a man can control Vasectomy. It is not the government's fault that there are only two contraceptive choices for men, so this has no bearing on whether it's fair or not. The fact is, there is choice involved, so having a child is voluntary for both man and woman. This creates an obligation. You are trying to say someone besides both parents should be held responsible for the well being of a child? | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 06:04 AM |
| -6 | For the record, on child support,Why are you confusing a fetus for a living, breathing human child? The two are completely incomparable. Were we talking about a woman with a living child, already born, that she didn't want, you wouldn't be making this argument. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 06:03 AM |
| -5 | For the record, on child support,Hm 18 years of slaving your life away (that he didn't choose) Your kid was an accident? Completely unplanned? You've never heard of contraceptives? Prenups? Various other measures of reproductive control? | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 05:51 AM |
| -4 | For the record, on child support,males are forced to work Selling your labor to pay dues is worlds apart from having your organs being utilized by another human being or fetus. It's why it's OK for courts to determine that you owe money but you're never, ever legally bound to give your organs up. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 05:44 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,by being psychic enough to know which woman to marry who will be willing to accept the amount of child support you want to voluntarily pay. Alternately, don't have kids. That's where the obligation comes from, not your wife. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 05:28 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,you only get mugged if you walk down a dark alley with a mugger in it. Yes, but that's mugging-- a situation you had no say in being put in that presents an imminent threat to your life or health. What in the world does this have to do with child support? Perhaps next you'd like to make a rape analogy? Or go full Godwin? Just mentioning mugging or violence in this context has no bearing on whether CSS is violent aggression or not, so please don't do this again. No government entity can legally f… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 04:43 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,The government does not force you to acquire a mortgage. Absolutely. A mortgage is a responsibility one must choose to acquire. The government does force you to acquire a child support order. Well, no, the government forces you to acquire a child support order if your baby's mother or father cannot work out another, better, more optimal deal with you. Child support is an "arbitration" sought between you and the other parent because you cannot settle matters on your own. At the same time, when yo… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 04:00 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,false analogy. Let's talk about false analogies for a second. An analogy isn't false because it isn't the same process as the thing you are discussing. In fact, that essential element is what makes it an analogy. A false analogy means that an analogy is not an effective allusion to a process or thing precisely because it misses some important part that makes the first thing what it is. Being that that's the case, are you saying that the essential problem with child support is that you can go to … | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 02:48 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Can you point out for me which government agency forces people to acquire a mortgage with the power to garnish wages, levy property liens, freeze bank accounts, revoke driving licenses, revoke busines licenses and jail people? No, I can't. But I can point you to the government agency has that kind of power over you if you continue to not pay dues and fines to, say, your mortgage. It would certainly be absurd to put someone in jail over a house. A human being is a different matter. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 02:33 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,The debt is not voluntary, Well, neither is your mortgage, but that's not really robbery is it? | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 02:01 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,I understand that men can spend 25% of their income on child support. I meant more a substantiation on why you feel it's robbery. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/11 12:48 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,men are being robbed of 25% of their income on a systematic basis. The money is then used to support a woman who no longer provides anything in return Is there a factual basis behind this assertion? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 09:23 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,when conception occurs only the female has choice while the male has none. Yes, because your organs aren't being threatened. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 08:35 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,You said they had no say. I showed that was stupid. What's your argument? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 05:14 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,I'm being selfish? Yes. Those other people are also being selfish, with the addition of being fraudulent. What, you can't both be selfish? Let's add to the list every single unwanted child in a disputed custody battle. How does that compare with two sets of crazy women? Which costs more to society and burdens you and me in ways we couldn't possibly count? Sorry man, I rationally pick my battles. I'm not scared of crazy women for the same reason I'm not scared of lightning strikes (at least parti… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 08:28 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,Thankfully, good policy decisions aren't made on the basis of a single individual sleeping well. As long as you're not pretending your callousness and radical selfishness is anything but. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 08:19 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,There's quite a few cases All the time around here I hear that this is common or even remotely higher of a risk of a condom breaking or a vasectomy failing. If this is true I will consider this. If it's even less likely than a vasectomy failure, then it is simply acceptable risk barring being able to read minds. I realize it's fucking shitty and sucky, but the benefits of finding a workaround for Crazy People Fucking Up Your Life are unilaterally not worth the costs, overall. People can complete… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 08:11 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,I realize that, but that's still quite a long way off from "men have no say in whether they have kids". | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 07:56 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Which is why I advocate for financial abortions, though to be quite honest it's still not quite the same thing. In a lot of ways, it's far better. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 02:23 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Would you prefer some sort of twisted parity where neither genders could absolve themselves of the responsibility of pregnancy? Who does that benefit, exactly? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 02:05 AM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,a guys reproductive control boils down to not doing that which can lead to actual reproduction. Yes, that's everyone's extent of reproductive control, by definition. Are you telling me that guys have no options if they want to have sex but not have kids? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 02:04 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,No one cares when men can't pay Sure, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the situation where the guy makes way more money than the woman and isn't simply willing to give it to the kid, and the woman can't pay for it all herself because she makes substantially less. What if that 50% is less than what the man can pay but more than what she can pay? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 01:54 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,Bullshit. Create a Child Support Account just like you do with an HSA/FSA where the funds can only be used for AUTHORIZED purchases. This would solve all problems relating to the issue. Yeah like with food stamps... Oh wait, no that doesn't solve the problem either. That's just a recent example. This has been going on for thirty years. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 01:40 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,You're telling me that a guy has no reproductive control? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 01:38 AM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,And if I didn't advocate for abortions, I would rightly be called a misogynist. But I advocate for paper abortions as well, so yes, I have no problem saying that a guy is responsible for where he puts his penis as much as a woman is responsible for her genitalia. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 01:37 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,The creation of a non-parental registry would be publicized widely and discussed by all mainstream media Yes, awareness that it existed is rather different than every woman who ever goes out for a drink having the list memorized, now isn't it? Let's think about the situations that would arise from this, and their frequency: How many times have you been forced, in your life, to pay for an unwanted child? OK, now how many times have you had the opportunity for casual sex? How would you feel if one… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/11 01:36 AM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,And if not knowingly? I'm assuming you haven't read elsewhere in ths post where I advocate financial abortion have you? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 11:01 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Why should you have to pay for a choice you didn't make!? What the hell are you talking about? If you fucked a prostitute and caught AIDs, who is at fault? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 10:51 PM |
| 3 | For the record, on child support,men have no say in whether they have kids, in the end. I was not aware you didn't know how to buy condoms or get an outpatient $200 procedure. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 10:42 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,That's sort of what I mean. If the father is supporting the children, child support isn't an issue. You're asking "What if child support is not being sought, because the children are being supported?" | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 10:41 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,You now find she is against abortion Why should you be responsible? Because you've been in a sexual relationship and haven't cleared this up. The punishment for not assessing risks properly is responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 10:39 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,The best interest of the child is on the line here. That is one factor. The other factor present in all of my arguments is responsibility, which has consent as a primary element. If the father does not consent to even the initiatory act of his eventual responsibility, it's not his responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:56 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,Then she would be met with the same indifference as if she said "I didn't know the law!" | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:45 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,Of fucking course not. Where did rape come from? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:44 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,My point is she should be paying for 50% of what it takes to care for a child, And what if she can't? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:44 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,If she has not disputed custody in court, what is the problem? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:43 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,What exactly is left to discuss? Apparently the principle of it is up for grabs, not just the implementation. We live in the world where children and their state mandated support can cause a man to lose everything and theres nothing he can do about it. It is worth noting (even though I will again stress the situation can be infinitely improved with implementation) that any arrangement of a system of justice will cause such tragedies occasionally. A minimal tolerance has to be established-- one-o… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:06 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,If the kids - when they're with the father I said the father refuses arbitration, not "they've worked something out but still fight a bit". | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:02 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,think we need a system that automatically assumes that a man assumes no responsibility to a child unless otherwise responsibility is expressly consented to. Alternately, require that the woman state the father, or otherwise get that sorted out, in the first trimester of pregnancy or forego any CSS. The father can have the financial abortion (now that paternity is established, the only part you have to wait for) up to the end of hte second trimester, allowing the woman enough time to have a medic… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 09:01 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,I gave the reason why what you said isn't true at all. Please return the favor if you're going to be so bold. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:59 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,This assumes women are helpless and can not make their own money. I did not say the mother was abandoning the child. Where did I even imply that? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:59 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,it creates an incentive for the mother to be deceitful Please see my post elsewhere where I address this. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:58 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,I've had no problem bringing it up, even amongst opinionated pro-choice women, as long as I actually explain it. Hell, I had one woman nearly applaud the idea, she'd never heard it. And there's good reason-- a financial abortion provides information to a woman that right now a man has no good reason to release-- whether he's going to be involved. That kind of information is crucial when deciding to carry to term. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:33 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,Thanks for the evidence. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:31 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,Only the women can decide the outcome of sex. I'll go ahead and tell you as a guy who's been through his normal college-rounds of sex, I have never let this be true. You're being more than a little disingenuous. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:31 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,You, yourself. I'm asking you. If the city came and bulldozed your house, and you tried to levy complaint, but they said they had publicly posted the notice in a basement of some regulatory building for two years now, how would you feel about it? Is that a fair way to post those kinds of notices? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:29 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,then the parent receiving the money should document how it was spent on the child, Oh god, there is no way this would turn out well for the judicial system, or be any more fair to anyone. At the point where either parent is being forced to document this stuff, you might as well just leave the child at Social Services and drive away-- the bureaucrats will be raising him/her. Look, I'm all for the father being able to report negligence if he finds out about it, but the mechanisms for that are alre… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:26 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,Have you read it? Do you really want to be responsible for a situation you had no idea about and received no notice of until long after it's too late? How is this "public registry list" any different than a woman hiding her pregnancy until the kid's born? Oh, if you'd gone to her work, you could've seen her belly! | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:25 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,If a woman can abort a fetus during the first 3 months of a pregnancy, why can't a man have a 'paper abortion' during the pregnancy? Did you read my whole post dude? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:23 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,Thanks to lobbying by the feminist movement to move the amount of arrears for child support to $5,000 before a party is found to be contempt Has this really been lobbied by the feminist movement? Don't get me wrong, almost everything about how CSS is managed is wrongheaded and sexist towards men, I'm not defending that. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:22 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,So whats a fair amount? Courts are exactly the means by which these civil matters are sorted out in every other regard. I see no reason to establish some brightline-- I'm not a judge. As to everything else, please do not take my post as some sort of advocacy for the status quo of CSS, one of the worst-managed social programs anywhere in the country. I am merely justifying child support in general, and both parents paying. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:22 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,At the point where the child is born, men and women are responsible for any baby that results from sexual activity. What you may not have read that I've posted elsewhere: I am OK with financial abortions. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:20 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,You seem to be conflating child abandonment with non-payment of child support. As I said in the OP, a mother and father are free to work out some other arrangement without seeking recourse with courts at all, at least in my state. Amongst semi-amicable poor families here, it's quite common. If they don't work something out, and the father refuses arbitration, how is it not abandonment? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:19 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,His dick, his choice = his responsibility. Do you see how silly that reasoning is? A child requires a mother and a father, no more, no less. There is neither a reduction (in the case of blaming it on the woman) nor an expansion (putting the burden on the rest of the family/society) that makes more sense. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:17 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,Men can put themselves on a "no-paternity registry", and their names are publicly available on that list. The first chapter of the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy shows why that's a horrible idea in a more amusing way than I could ever possibly elucidate. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:16 PM |
| 1 | For the record, on child support,From here: It typically takes about 3 -10 working days to complete the testing. In cases where the mother's sample is not included or when an abnormal/difficult sample is used, testing may require more time. If the mom wants CSS, she cooperates, otherwise it doesn't matter whose kid it is. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 08:15 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,Do you think that the court system in the United States would be able to move quick enough for this to be a reality? There's no case here. Father and mother send in evidence one after the other to a municipal office, father goes in and fills out paperwork, gets a stamp and goes on with his life. I once had to wait two days to get my driver's license. It was wretched. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 07:27 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,Every child is the mother's responsibility. By what rationale is it not entirely the father's responsibility? Once you've answered that question, apply it to what you just said here. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 07:25 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,the point of child support is to support them while they're kids. Literally the last sentence before you start reading what you quoted. A father abandoning his child is like a person walking away from a mortgage he or she signed, in terms of initiatory avoidance of responsibility. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 07:23 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,That's what financial abortions are for, and I think in a society that has abortions it is a necessity. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 06:16 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,I'm all ears. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 06:14 PM |
| -1 | For the record, on child support,If we are allowing the argument for positive rights against impositions of nature for the parent, it seems trivial that such rights should also apply to the child from mother and father. Do you agree? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 05:38 PM |
| 0 | For the record, on child support,I would have to see the case. I can imagine a lot of circumstances on the part of the man that would make the court deny custody. That doesn't mean it's true, it just means your evidence is pending context for me. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 05:37 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,Hey, while we're remembering things, why don't we remember who has to actually devote their physical organs to a messy and by-no-means perfect process that can cost tens of thousands of dollars if something goes wrong, requires one to completely change their lifestyle and possibly forego career opportunities, and in some cases can threaten your life? To paraphrase Louis C.K. I'm not saying that men can't bitch about pregnancy and child rearing. I'm saying women can bitch more. But you're not her… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 05:36 PM |
| 3 | For the record, on child support,The actor who makes the choices leading to it becoming a responsibility, (ie don't abort, don't give up for adoption), should bear the responsibility for their choices alone. So the father is not at all responsible for the pregnancy? Is it me or you who is encouraging single-parent families? You should probably know that I am all for a father-to-be being able to go to court in the first 3-6 months (not dead set on the issue) of pregnancy and state that he is the father and that he wants to absol… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 05:04 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,Thats like holding a gun Who is threatening your child with starvation? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 05:01 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,I believe "shouldn't" is the word that reapfreak used. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 05:00 PM |
| 3 | For the record, on child support,I would argue that a woman has a right to evict an unborn child One, a fetus isn't a person with rights, inarguably so for the first 6 months. Two, suppose it were. A woman is not just unwilling, but unable to exercise exclusive rights to her own body without violating the right to life of a child. That is a rights conflicts. The right to bodily autonomy is generally held as superior to the right to life. The right to money? Not so much. A child isn't an animal that can be abandoned at whim. But… | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 04:59 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,Welfare is voluntary. Some services that come along with welfare are not voluntary, given that you are on welfare. Would you say those services are then non-voluntary in general? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 04:54 PM |
| -2 | For the record, on child support,Then it seems contingent on other optional things. I need you to convince me there's a difference. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 04:40 PM |
| 2 | For the record, on child support,Shouldn't you have a right to abandon the child? In what sense? Can you abandon your medical bills? Your mortgage? | /r/MensRights | 29/07/11 04:39 PM |
| 2 | How Rebecca Watson's response to Dawkins imparts a lesson on feminismjuxtapose Raphael to the much venerated Tracy Emin who stuffs banknotes into her vagina and calls it art. Yeah, excellent cherrypicking. You know there was a guy made world-famous for pissing in a jar and labeling it Jesus? You know that women have written on a lot more than verbiose blogs right? I'm not trying to say women are better writers than men. Or better artists. In fact, that kind of generalized sentiment is precisely what I think in your post is wrongheaded. | /r/MensRights | 10/07/11 12:02 PM |
| 1 | A surprisingly constructive criticism of women who wish they were married but aren't, that for once doesn't lay the blame on men but on the women themselves."For once"? Maybe for Huffington Post, but "Cat Lady," "Spinster," and many other analogous names for old women who never married have been around (and insulting to the woman) for hundreds of years. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/11 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Why Don't Men Have a Birth Control Pill?They're just not available in the US because nobody wants to rock the boat by giving men power over their own reproduction. Well, more like, men have traditionally been opposed to being seen as sterile, and while there are plenty of exceptions (like you and me and growing every day), right now there's not much market for it. Men can get a vasectomy, and that's good enough for our culture. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/11 06:26 PM |
| 1 | A girl who was statutorily raped gets her abortion paid for by the taxpayers; a boy who was statutorily raped is obligated to pay child support if his rapist decides to keep the babyThis post is raising awareness about a ridiculous gender double standard, I'm not sure it's a double-standard if it's related to how humans function biologically. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/11 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Girl convicted after making false rape allegation | Society | The GuardianIn a significant fraction of instances, the accusers recant their charges; 17 in others, where no formal recantation occurs but where rape may have occurred, there are good reasons to believe that the accusation must nevertheless be wrong about the identity of the assailant. The first does not say near as much as you think it does, Stockholm Syndrome amongst DV and rape victims is well known. This document only shows that the "2% false positive" claim by some feminists is wrong, not that "virtua… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/11 12:43 PM |
| 0 | Girl convicted after making false rape allegation | Society | The GuardianI've read into feminism a bit more than most people I know (which is not to say I'm an expert). I have heard some ridiculous shit, like any sex between a man and a woman being rape, but I've never heard that a woman raping a man isn't rape. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/11 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Girl convicted after making false rape allegation | Society | The Guardiandon't expect logic from feminists. I thought we were talking about mainstream opinion. Surely if this were mainstream opinion I would've at least heard of that kind of sexism in the South. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/11 06:42 PM |
| 5 | Girl convicted after making false rape allegation | Society | The GuardianA woman who physically or verbally forces a man into sex is 'empowered' I am completely mystified. I grew up in the Deep South and I've never heard of being physically forced into any kind of sex as anything but rape, even if a woman makes me do it. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/11 05:32 PM |
| 4 | Girl convicted after making false rape allegation | Society | The GuardianThe rate of women lying about being raped is probably quite high. Well as long as we have baseless speculation to go on, let's press forward! This is routinely less than 10% in the US. At face value this means that 90% of accusations have not sufficient merit to warrant a guilty verdict. Yes. This has to do with the nature of the crime (rather than any sort of false positive rate), which is only made crime not by the physical and empirical acts involved, but by intent. Thus the elements of the c… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/11 01:47 PM |
| 3 | Disturbing trends on reddit; A lot of guys are drinking the feminist koolaid in regards to male circumcision.I have always felt it was one of the worst sexual assaults you could commit upon a person. It is certainly paramount to rape in my book and to see people behaving so flippantly about it quite honestly makes me sick to my stomach. If your parents didn't like the way your umbilical was cut and wanted it to be cut back a little more at the time of birth, would you consider it "rape"? I totally understand that it's very morally ambiguous, if not flat-out wrong and unjustified, but it's a cosmetic de… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/11 01:47 PM |
| 10 | Remember how we are told that only a small minority of feminist defend false rape accusers? Well..."She needs to suffer consequences" is hardly "it's totally cool". Nice evasion of supporting your argument here btw: I think its so obvious that I will let it as homework for you. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/11 10:21 PM |
| 7 | Remember how we are told that only a small minority of feminist defend false rape accusers? Well...I don't really see any "defense" of the false rape accuser here. Just an illustration of the gross disparities of the perception of the issue. Could you maybe point me to the post where someone says "Even if she lied, it's totally cool"? | /r/MensRights | 26/01/11 09:11 PM |
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