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but I think girls care more about being desirable than the actual male attention that comes with it. I agree with you on this, especially with older (over 30) women that I know that are somewhat jaded but still very much want to be considered desirable, but they say the effort they go to is just for them and dont care what men think (but not really, just less so what the avg joe thinks).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:10 AM
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lesser attractive girls made a killing How do you mean by this? Just simply attention in terms of comments on their posts & likes/thumbs ups, or guys sucking up to them or guys hitting them up for a date/sex and the girls going for it and exploiting the options? I dont necessarily think that all the praise & attention should go exclusively to the most beautiful men & women online, but should be spread across the board but that's not how nature works, but less attractive women are going to get wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:35 AM
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True. Some of my (gen x) female friends had hundreds of msgs in their inbox (not Tinder) and were blasé over it. Its kind of crazy the feast/famine aspect for different users. I always felt bad for the women who posted online how they never got anyone contacting them, even though its the norm for a lot of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:32 AM
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don’t have the SMV to back up their dating requirements. I would have worded it as "...don't have the RMV to back up their SMV requirements."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 12:44 AM
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I had the same experience as the guy below. I was choosey (on what I thought was compatible and not out of my league), but it really didn't result in much of a higher strike rate, and like lots of guys after a while you go for the shotgun approach just to get some dates. The risk for the women is that guys who are just meh over them will just go with the flow for a while to have some sort of dating/sex life. The women I met at parties, bars, via friends were better outcomes, and same story from …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:59 PM
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A stack of women are like this now, and as much as they are enjoying a podcast or listening to music, I suspect many also use it as a cockblock so to speak when out in public. It works better than just having a book with you when sitting on a train. At my local food court in the city, easy over 85% of the women there on their own are engaged in the phone/tablet. It is definitely a factor that has impacted IRL chat-up as it means you now have to interrupt them to make small talk and it is less we…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 11:44 PM
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"extra" > It does, and the trouble is people (the guy in question and the woman in question) are going to have different interpretations of that. I know it gets harped on on this subreddit but looks are going to be a factor and what's dirty flirty for one guy is going to be creepy for another. That line used in the OP...raid your tomb, is smutty but imo low key and imo you could say that in front of others. After hearing similar half a dozen times in a night I'd expect the lara croft woman to ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:15 PM
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Just because someone wants sexual attention, doesn't mean she wants sexual attention from you. The trouble is the guy is not going to know until he tries. I agree with the crux of what you wrote though. If some woman dresses up as a overtly sexy character for Halloween or some vampish cosplay character,.. personally...I think it ridiculous for the women to get all pissy over guys giving her extra attention. Sorry I just don't buy the 'I am doing it just for myself' line. I do agree though that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:04 PM
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I wonder how much of an impact this is having on the outcome as well, because IRL I have not seen what the OP says especially in relation to men, for women maybe if they fall on the nurturing, supporting social causes, less tradcon typical in terms of men she is attracted to. The guys I've known over the years who had scored lots of women, 'selfless' is definitely not a word that comes to mind to describe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 04:58 AM
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I think that's related to relationship communication and personal feelings more more than dating related communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 09:04 AM
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Are they actually spending $, I very much doubt it, though they would be boosting the traffic to her profile
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:02 AM
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From what I had seen I think the guys that do well on IG have the looks & build that would get them featured in magazines. The dedication to achieve something like zyzz is much greater
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:00 AM
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I suspect its along these lines, plus maybe throw in the fact that she is getting a ton of attention, notoriety, gifts, sponsorship and likes simply for posing and doing something of little merit and there is the jealousy factor but they still enjoy the optics while still fuming. Probably a similar thing with lots of women and the Kardashians.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 12:54 AM
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Sheesh, that's making the most of your money maker. Lots of young women and even old hard up GILFs will be like: https://dependableva.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/daffy-duck-money.png
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:54 PM
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she enjoys the pleasures or enjoyment derived from the items / assets she buys with the $$$ she earned from the sex work, as it is with most types of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 12:46 PM
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absolutely good looking men get approached by women quite often and the women make it known they are a sure thing. As you drop down in the ranks looks wise the less this is going to happen or the women is a single mom as you say but it can still happen just that the women will tend to be less on the sexual DTF side and more on the friendly sightly flirty get to know you side. If you are pretty ordinary looking bloke or lower still on the looks rankings, then an approach with some IOIs is just no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 04:49 AM
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trp is full of LARPers that act like their high smv This was an aspect to some of the blogs that started to grate on me too, where if I was reading the comments and there was any inkling of this, I'd just scroll on. Too many of the regulars were too ego invested & were always trying to out alpha each other
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 07:06 AM
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There definitely is an element of this. On so many occasions over the years the advice from those who are attractive tends to be on the lame side, because it fundamentally comes natural to them. They never have to work or undergo a transformation to attract people. Sure when it comes to keeping a LTR going there are different aspects involved but from a pure getting a date its often as simple as starting up a conversation and reaping the IOIs, so they put a lot of stock in the confidence aspect …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:39 AM
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If he can't handle your truth, you don't belong together. that's right. Its an indicator you are not right for each other, and you need to keep looking for someone who wants the real you....love your worst get your best style. I get it though how quite a few of the chads have a double standard when it comes to having a wild past, but that's not the way it is for the majority of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 12:24 PM
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lol. yeh keep searching if you read that on an online profile from a woman in her mid 30s. I think that phrase is fine though coming from someone mid 20s, but I'm really not looking for someone who took a swag of bad experiences and an extra dozen yrs to sort out their life, especially when it coincides with change in their prospects
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 12:09 PM
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Better options when it comes to a serious relationship for sure but for fuckbois to have sex with in the meantime...not necessarily. I've seen some of the guys my girlfriend's friends dated (and by dated I mean hookup up) online, as well as some of the stories from female friends plus some of the guys I know in those categories did great business online. How much they were dating women who wouldn't want to take them home to show off to the folks I really can't say for sure. but definitely the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:56 AM
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Yeh that aspect is definitely advantageous for guys. On the other hand I do think lots of rejections online and lowering your standards to get a response let alone a date, does lower self esteem for quite a few guys. I do think it works better for average guys if they don't take it too seriously and don't treat it as their primary option for meeting women. Likewise women can sleep with lots of guys or the type of guys that wouldn't want others to see (say sleazy, crude, young, tatted up, dumb) o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 07:11 AM
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It is like an online catalogue, but what makes it different when it comes to OLD is that the best high end premium product costs no more to acquire (or at least to put a bid in for it) than the low quality budget level product, so it means users are going to be biased towards the better quality prospects. As for your last sentence...I work with a handful of young (in their 20s) women, and I've noticed this as well, that there is tendency to be annoyed when they get hit on IRL (especially if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:39 AM
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From my experience with OLD and IRL dating/hookup, I absolutely say the same > If I had relied on dating website/app to meet those more attractive women its highly unlikely I would have met them given my lower expectations online. A number of my mates say the same in regards to their experiences. I would throw in alcohol, social venue vibe and friend connections as IRL factors as well that contributed for me as well that help to banish the shopping catalogue attitude when out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:25 AM
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Actually I thought it might have. One of my female acquaintances was telling me about her least favourable ex and it was the 'nice guy' type guy she had a relationship with who cried when she broke up with him and was begging her to reconsider. Out of her prior 5 relationships the other exes all cheated on her (she had a thing for badboy types). The cryer elicited the most disgust even thought the others did the dirty on her, but she broke up with him so she already had no love/desire for him so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 02:16 PM
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Men crying over a breakup triggered and enhanced feelings of disgust. No guy should ever do this. I've heard of too many women recounting such an experience with contempt. It is why it does feed into men's discomfort at showing feelings and that many women do see it as weakness, even though I realise you have mentioned exceptions. In my observations, the women who are harsh at crying from men, tend to be more those who go for tough/rugged type men, though women tend have more empathy to a 'man's…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:08 AM
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Its not really a good sign if your current bf or gf got with you as a result of cheating on their partner. Its a great upfront indicator on their nature, and I know plenty of people who love the karma when the new person gets cheated on down the track or they themselves get cheated on with the one they cheated for. Even if there was no sex breaking up with someone to monkey branch to someone new is a sucky thing to do but if this other person is going to be a better long term match then its also…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:38 AM
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Your right its not pursuing women, but I would not call it exclusively done to intimidate women...maybe the catcalling being yelled out is, but low key whistling or complimenting a woman walking past for having a great set of legs is more of a compliment or verbal appreciation of a great sight walking past your view, though I know a staunch feminist would never see it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/20 02:52 AM
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Like over here in the UK, the goverment are investing in some health policies and idea's. But unfortunately unless its enforced, I can't see it working. In relation to this, in todays news...one of the fattest countries in the world, Mexico (who moved well up the ranks after NAFTA poured US/Canadian food into their country) is trying to get new processed food packaging laws introduced into their country in the next 2 months and meeting stiff opposition from the WHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 02:52 AM
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Well then a close 2nd is being an ectomorph and losing weight, because for me I noticed when that's happened the relationship started going downhill
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:49 AM
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I've read a few stories from men where the wife rose up the career ranks and out earned him and it didn't faze them initially and its this aspect ^ that they said created resentment from their side over time...subtle jabs, or putdown comments cloaked with some humour in front of friends & family or snarky putdowns during arguments (truth comes out).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:43 AM
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In modern society where often couples now both have careers (rather than just a job) and have university qualifications, the guy with his salary alone is capable of being the provider, but most people don't just want to get by, and the vast majority of women going to university have higher expectations than that and their partner is an integral part of that. Lifestyle aspirations call for higher level of providing (which the guy could do for the basics) and it is separate from masculinity issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:28 AM
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Self reinforcing circular logic, like when shorter women say they wont marry/have babies with short men, so that way their sons will have better prospects in life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:12 AM
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This is one of those relationship aspects were each sex blames the other for being the one with the issues. I'd say early gen-x and prior that definitely more men would be the ones with the hang up, and as you go back in time the rarer it would have been for any man in that situation and the more he/she would be different from the norm and the more others would have teased them about it. There was greater emphasis on M/F traditions and blokiness back then. These days though I would say its swung…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 03:03 AM
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I feel its hard to say if men cared significantly more about 'personality and temperament' in the past, but I suspect there was a greater weighting for this, with the reason being that in past generations there was more emphasis on marriage rather than dating and successions of girlfriends/flings/fwbs, plus pre era of public acceptance of divorce, your choice of spouse had a bigger impact on your lifetime happiness. At the same time though in boomer generation and prior, lots of couple ended up …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 02:17 AM
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so I often introduced people to new people, I was always giving a ton of dating advice to my guy friends and hooking them up with my gfs Nooww this is when being an orbiter is worthwhile, but I don't think those scenarios are the norm for orbiters. If they are not hung up on one day being her boyfriend but just enjoy her company and also just as importantly the boosted opportunities to their social life, then being in the friendzone is not such a terrible thing. I've observed over the years, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 03:24 AM
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The more attractive you are the more indicators of interest you are going to get, and as you go up the scale in looks the more obvious it is and less chance of some subtle comment flying over your head. If you are out socialising and there are girls and booze they, quite a few will make it obvious in a short time span of conversation that they are a sure thing. Below average in looks + boring or quite personality and you are going to be wallpaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 03:06 AM
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Bascially, yep this. He is not much better than the gay bestie. Though I also got to add he also is typically going to be nothing special to look at (that does not mean ugly by default either). He's a 'nice guy' that's pleasant to get on with, doesn't cause any drama or disagreement, but generates zero vagina tingles. I had a few mates who were average joe blows who struggled in their 20s (but did a fair bit better post 30) and these guys were friendly enough and didn't exhibit any weird awkward…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 02:51 AM
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That's it which comes first. From the DTF women I've known, I would say the depression issues (though not always obvious at the time especially if they put on a front or drink quite a bit when out and go woohoo mode) come first, and for some its quite possible lots of casual sex just exacerbates things down the line. I wouldn't say for all though, it depends on how in control of the situations she was and what she hoped to get out it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:12 AM
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There is an element of this, though I wouldn't over generalize and say men suck at sex, but I do know from hearing complaints from women and stories from guys I know there it does play a part when it comes to ONS, I'd say much more so then relationship sex...though I don't sleep with guys to know. Numerous of the women I know complain a lot of the guys from their ONS are bit of a dud when it comes to sex, but for numerous of them I typically knowf the guys they've gone for - better looking playe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:05 AM
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This is the way its going to be in the vast majority of couples. Even if the guy had been rejected by the previous 3 women he was really into, it wont mean he doesn't find his current girlfriend a turn on. Lots of women find it insulting that they are not the 'special one' for their guy, but reality is there are lots of women who he would find worthwhile to have a relationship with and it just depends on when you happen to cross paths when both are single. This scenario of the OP's can happen bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:57 AM
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I've found this scenario happens a fair too over the years, where its like you say the woman admits she is not highly turned on by her man, but it was these other x,y,z attributes which made him attractive, but would take it as big insult or blow to their self esteem (maybe not the right term) if the husband/fiancé admitted similar. From what I have observed the really attractive women wouldn't mind it so much of their boyfriend listed their other attributes as being the big attrition drivers fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 05:44 AM
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Yeh the whole going up and trying to shame an older man being on a date with a younger woman is weird and calling them a pervert. Young pretty women are going to be sexy for guys from 12 to 112, its not like their brain unwires when you reach mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:13 AM
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On regular (non swipe) sites, its easy for women to set filters on who can contact them, well maybe not all sites but most now I would have thought. Early on though it probably wasn't worried about, but some guys go nuts and just bombard women with copy and paste msgs, with the belief that they only get a 5% reply rate so its a numbers game. I couldn't do it like that, the person had to appeal to me + I had to know if they were looking for '6ft+' dude or 'a sexy guy in uniform' or 'generous & su…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:03 AM
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well then that aint working and those guys are not going to be robbing the young women from the young dudes. Sure older guys will flirt or try to flirt with single younger women, but those pulling it off are not the norm, and from what I've seen those few that manage it, they are typically very well off financially or are good looking and have a youthful energetic vibe about them still.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:08 AM
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Yes this is going to be more the case. The OP is exaggerating when he says heaps of guys in their 40s and 50s are poaching lots of ladies in their 20s. The number is small. People see an article like from last week of Sean Penn marrying some 28yr old woman and use that as a typical example, but its not that common. Lots of older dudes still find young women sexy and they will flirt with them but most are not asking them out and less getting accepted. As for age band jumping, I know more women mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 12:00 AM
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If I was dating the girl at the time she made the porno, then yeh I would be if I gave her the thumbs up to do it. But if you meet a girl that did a porno 5 yrs ago because she needed the $ at the time, I don't see how it is much worse than say if she made a home movie with the same guy when they had a fling 5 yrs ago or say her best friend fucking a swag of similar ride em hard latino dudes for fun after meeting them in nightclubs 3-5 yrs ago. Her non-porno but DTF friend wont be any more valid…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:57 PM
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The stigma is not there like it once was or many think it wont come back to back them in a number of years time when it might have more consequences. For the stigma aspect many porn stars are minor celebs these days and have thousands of guys adoring them and the bigger names can bankroll a good start in life. For those that do cangirl action or GDP they are typically not doing it for a career and hope to make some quick $ and fly under the radar. Who knows many might do, put plenty will get out…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 10:45 PM
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I only half believe when ppl say horrible things about their Exes Same here. As I've gotten older I realise its become a bit of a cliché. It shifts blame for the failed relationship to the ex who is not there to give their side of the story and also it plays into the victim sympathy side of things which is more of a thing these days + women bonding with other women who are there and their stories of horrible exes or dating experiences. I was a bit stunned to hear on the grapevine I was getting d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:54 AM
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I agree with what the poster above said in my observations of women, but its more so women who have careers and other passions in life, rather than just humdrum jobs and not passionate with other hobbies or past-times beyond say socialising with friends. I think it also depends a bit on how easy it is to get commitment when they put their foot down as well. In the women I know (age 30up) who are like this they are on the more desirable side, so don't have the scarcity of options mindset. Same wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 01:44 AM
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that's olden days talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 06:54 AM
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Unless it was enforced across the board no OLD site would do that and risk losing customers (especially men who are the cash cows) who got blocked to other sites. I do think its a good concept though. Shifty sites will just create fake female profiles or leave up inactive female profiles as well, which already happens. A number of these sites I thought were registered in tax havens where they can not pay tax but also don't get burdened with consumer regulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 06:53 AM
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This is why I can't see it going away anytime soon. Maybe people when they get older might want to move away from it but those in their 20s especially women when they are in their prime and guys when they are horny and want to maximise options with minimal effort will still flock to it. Older singles might want to move on to something less superficial but by 30ish their social circles have shrunk and lots don't go out as much as well for the purpose of saving more money, so their social events w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 06:39 AM
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Balding is not quite the attraction destroyer here that some women make out. It really depends on the guy and his age when women make the reference to it, also how he handles it. A big % of guys are losing their hair by their 40s and a its not like the women mid 30s up are going to consider that as ugly & un-datable, given their age & options. if the guy is still trying to look & act youthful and is still chasing women in their 20s then its definitely going to be a sign of aging that will put pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:34 AM
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This is another aspect that wont necessarily show in any stats. Lots of guys will assume that a woman who had lots of sex partners, was rejected by them all and has issues (not necessarily) or likes lots of variety (quite possibly) and will continue to seek it out. Another aspect though that I feel makes them a risky bet is the one you mention. When it comes to flings/ONS/FWBs/STRs a lot of women go for guys that they would not get for a committed long term relationship. Its certainly possible a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 02:41 AM
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while she wont be stronger, that 75lbs weight advantage would certainly help especially if she knew a few wrestling moves. I'd wrestle with girlfriends who were bigger when I was skinny (funny they were the only ones who were into it, I guess they thought they had a better chance), I'd dominate on upper body strength, but a couple had an advantage with their thighs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 06:29 AM
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while she wont be stronger, that 75lbs weight advantage would certainly help especially if she knew a few wrestling moves. I'd wrestle with girlfriends who were bigger when I was skinny (funny they were the only ones who were into it, I guess they thought they had a better chance), I'd dominate on upper body strength, but a couple had an advantage with their thighs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 06:28 AM
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Even when I was skinny I couldn't imagine getting my ass kicked by any of my girlfriends. Pound for pound all men are going to be stronger. I laugh when I hear small build women say they wont date small build men, because they don't want a boyfriend that they can beat up....yeh sure. Likewise numerous petite build women insist on dating big guys because it makes them feel more feminine & safer. Those women could date any jockey and still wont have any issue with not looking girly next to their g…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 06:13 AM
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yeh too true. Some of the women I've known for years when they got older made an issue about their safety and needing to vet a guy, and the risk of serial murderers with online dating sites or needing a big guy to give them security because its so dangerous out, but back in their 20s, most of these same women were yolo for going home with guys they'd only met a few hours ago when out. A lot of people get more safety focused when older, but I find the safety aspect is more of a hurdle for the les…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:40 AM
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I've seen this play out plus from my own perspective. The people you associated with have a preconceived mindset of who you are. Physically transforming (I did bodybuilding) helps when it comes to people who are say acquaintances but not as much for people close to you in switching up from beta. Many will see the change as a new fake persona/attitude/image. Some will resent it. For any women that gave you short shift when beta, forget trying to impress with the new alpha attitude, just move on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 01:44 AM
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I see CC riding as more this, sport fucking or girls who are just dating around having fun (wink wink), where the dating is more like flings or doesn't go past the first night of sex. They are fine with it while they have lots of options and their intention is 'nothing serious' and they have friends who are similar. At the same time I know a number of women who have clocked up q lot of guys, who claim they just want a serious relationship (and would resent getting called cc riders), but it just …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:05 AM
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Yep, when they are not looking for anything serious they are much more open in their discussions about their wild antics and are in fact seeking out women who have same DTF attitude. Likewise lots of DTF women are fine with being upfront on their sex life and kinks with guys that are only going to fk buddies or ONS and are outside their social circle. In my social circles over the years the guys who cared about n-count the most tended to be the most desirable men and the guys who never got any h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 08:06 AM
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The guys who I knew who slept with lots of women were not all stereotypical douchebag bragger types, and most when it came to the women they wanted to get serious with they certainly did not brag, and kept it low key about their past, and generally the women knew he had been with many from reading between the lines on his comments + from comments his mates made when we hung together talking about the good times. They knew enough, but not all the sleazy details. Most of the players I knew ended u…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:57 AM
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They do. the example given above of toothpaste splashes on the mirror or socks on the floor...I could live with that till the weekend and then do a solid clean up, but I've had girlfriends that couldn't wait that long, so they see you as lazy or never doing it. I'm still prepared to cleanup but having everything neat and in its place 7 days a week is not a priority in my life. Last few girlfriends I had weren't clean freaks,in fact the opposite, where I did more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:04 AM
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Only ever did it with my dad to try to conceive. No not ideal. Maybe the first part but lots of people like sex for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:59 AM
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From my experience I wouldn't have said 'very rare' (of course depends where you live + type of women you go for), but its less common than those who want the traditional (say 33:66), and many of the traditional 'dating' women cherry pick behaviors & expectations from the past traditional era vs new 3rd/4th wave feminism era.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:48 AM
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Correct. The prime hormone driven years of life when nature expects couples to breed. A study based on 18-32 yrs olds is more meaningful when it comes to attraction behaviours than one say is from 20-65 yr old dating users, though the person in their 50s might say otherwise from their perspective. Its like when people here say there is equal number of men & women dating...well yes if you include single people up to 100, but there is like 4% more males born, but this gets balanced out by women li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 11:56 PM
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There is nothing wrong with finding only 20% of the population attractive. No there's not, if the 20% are spread-out across the spectrum of singles of similar age range for different people. It only becomes a problem where a significant % of the population have a 'type' that is very similar, and doesn't comprise a significant % of the opposite sex. A group of women saying they would love a guy who looks like a particular movie star and their friends also want a guy who looks like such and such m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:54 PM
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...or maybe also just out do their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:23 PM
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crappy parents and also crappy past exes where you pay for the sins of their exes, though you could argue it all begat with their upbringing. Temperament also plays a part. I can relate somewhat to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:07 AM
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An upside to a FWB is I don’t care about their opinions of me as much so sometimes I can be more honest This is why often the FWB/Fk buddy will get to experience & hear about the kinkier side the women more than her husband...though I think another element is that often the Fk buddy will be a hotter guy than LTR. One of my co-workers get a lot of his meals pre-cooked for him from one of his FWBs. Anything goes sex (supposedly) and then sent home loaded up with casseroles/stews/soups..now that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:57 PM
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I agree with that distinction. He wants a fuck buddy not a FWB which I consider has greater emotional/care involved. The latter is my preference, that I think the person I'm shagging is still a pretty cool person to hang out with at times even when there is no sex, but obviously there is reasons why one or the other doesn't want a proper gf/bf relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:39 PM
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This theme makes it on here a fair bit I thought. I remember seeing a SNL sketch on this years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 08:02 AM
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I agree with what you wrote, but also add that just because someone is hot looking doesn't mean they also have a wonderful personality when you move in with them. Likewise someone who is very attractive doesn't necessarily mean they are not as bright or as ambitious or more vain or spoilt than others. A couple of very pretty women I know are quite self centered and/or expect to get things their way so would be a bit of a pain to live with. Really attractive women tend to have a lower tolerance f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:31 AM
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The women I knew/know who were fine being a 'bit on the side' for a handsome married man or good looking divorced dude with other FWBs, tended to not be the really attractive/hot women, but were more the 6-7s in the looks range. Sexy enough to score the better looking men but not when it came to serious commitment, but would rather be with them than settle. This might fit with your last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:23 AM
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Its not just your social circle (I'm GenX)...I've noticed it too. I know a number that have been single for multiple years. I also know a few (less) women that are not so attractive (overweight + not very feminine) who have been single long time as well, and of the 2 groups the more attractive women, complain more about how finding a decent person is sooo hard, and people naturally emphasise with them. I do find the people who genuinely have a hard time dating tend to not draw attention to the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 03:30 AM
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That sort of thing is happening more, and people (more so of the left) are happy to exploit doxing to try get that outcome. I am dead against again losing their job because they want to wear a MAGA hat or Mao or pro-weed t-shirt on the weekend or attend whatever rally they want in the evening. Something like "white lives matter" to me is even stretching it further when it comes to 'public' decency. If your customers start calling up and complaining because they identify that staff member as bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 02:44 AM
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the trouble is like a number of words form when I grew up, the definition has been stretched in social media land as well clickbait online news land, for the headline grabbing effect as well as the bigger victim effect. You really need to hear both sides of the story on 'abusive' claims. Also your private life is your private life, and if your work performance is fine, then I don't see why your company should be able to sack you because HR doesn't like how you behave in a relationship (assuming …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:34 AM
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I suspect quite a few Millennials and Gen-xers will be switched on to this aspect but just avoid mentioning it, but it is for sure a big aspect on why social interaction online changed. Once the www can into mass consumption, all those people who thought the internet & computers were for losers & geeks or boring flooded online. The majority of trailer park residents will have been online now for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:24 AM
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spot on. Things are getting stretched a bit too far when 'mentally damaging' becomes 'impaired mental health'. A lot of the effects from social media obsession and changes in attitude are not really going to be easy to quantify + often the individual is not going to be self aware + the individual often wont consider it a problem from their personal perspective, and if it creates a collective issue for society or men, well that's not their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:16 AM
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I don't know how much of it was men complaining or the pharmaceutical coy deciding its not worth the risk or the side effect profile would make it not marketable. Its been 60 yrs since the pill came out to find an alternative for men and there are a lot of men that would love to take over control of their ability to create a baby or not via another option than condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:26 AM
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Okay that's a valid aspect if that's the case from the bi perspective. Its not like I was taught to find teenage girls cute & sexy, it was instinctual, hardwired into my brain from thousands of previous generations of successful procreation, as it is for all the species. So I don't really have another unbiased reference point really for measuring what is beautiful. I don't look at other men in that way, so while I can acknowledge if a guy is good looking or not I don't rank them compared to wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:53 AM
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Maybe only bisexuals can make a valid assessment on this. So many guys online I find consider women being more attractive than men as a given, like a law of nature. To me it does not make sense for nature to make an imbalance in desirability like that unless it expects the stronger sex to procreate by force. Its because young guys are so horny & all their senses are on full force and women their age are in their sexy prime that they view her as so more desirable, nature did a good job....but its…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:29 PM
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I find women tend to want to keep their promiscuity on the downlow. some of their friends will judge them, maybe not obvious to their face but with their other friends behind their back. some will be wary of blabbermouth girlfriends leaking the info outside their chick group lest it go wider to males friends. The ones who will get all the goss on who they fucked will be their BFF or close friends with similar YOLO spirit when it comes to men. When talking to other girlfriends about their latest …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:15 PM
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lol. I have found this with a number of women. They have specific type or dislikes when it comes to men but are adamant that's just them and their friends, but most of the other women in the city aren't going to be like them (ie they are diverse in their tastes). Uh-uh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 04:54 AM
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I disagree. If it was a case of those wishing to be promiscuous would likely get more men putting their hand up for that, but I'd say more women are even though they might not consider themselves like that because their sex partners are more spread-out over time + also lot of women don't have that specific intent, (they were drunk, depressed time, the guys only wanted NSA). the thing is a lot of women who hookup with players aren't really promiscuous with the same intent of not wanting anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 04:01 AM
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I typically find most women don't have an issue making that claim "men have lower standards for casual sex", but they are louthe to admit that they benefitted from that. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 03:43 AM
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wont be in the politicians or CEO's lifetime, so not their problem. Propping up the economy + property market and consumer spending to make those bonus is what's counts now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:39 PM
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In the neo liberal countries the politicians will answer the call of the complaining businesses by just importing more immigrants to make up the difference. Boosting consumerism on the never ending growth pattern + prop up the property market + a bonus for the govt too as it makes the economic growth figures look good for them. They care about that more than local average men's issues unless the suicide rate was to go sky-high. Politicians & CEO's don't care long-term, just short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:32 PM
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Actually nature has it so there are more boys born than girls, roughly 5%, to allow possibly for their higher mortality rate, but it evens out with old age women as there are more of them than old men. From the horny young single male perspective its the imbalance at the youth end that's going to count, so a fair few can drop out without it putting too much of a dint in the prospects for women, until middle age anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 08:36 AM
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morbidly obese is not super common where in live, rather its more a case of need to lose 20-30lbs, though the older the person the the tendancy for the BMI to be higher. its hard to know what people online envisage as the obese word gets thrown around a lot, whereas the majority where I live are just overweight/chunky and don't waddle. Most chubby women and men tend to pair up with their equivalent, and if any are obese doesn't matter if M or F they will have a hard time (if single), and both wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:24 PM
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I worked mostly in finance/IT but also at factory sites and hung out with blue collar /white collar social groups and this is how I picked up on it. I think it came from university educated women having higher expectations for a partner and the height aspect helped compensate for the higher income/credentials she would bring to the relationship (lower pay status differential for the potential bf/husband) and also because they worked in the corporate sector they were around senior managers who te…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:02 PM
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I think there is a cultural aspect. I grew up with numerous friends from Southern Europe/Mediterranean region, and quite a few were on the shortish side and they didn't seem to experience height issues, but they dated within their culture. the other thing I have noticed over the years is that better educated women (white collar) have bigger height lust than blue collar women, which I feel is a factor why it has become a bigger deal over the last say 30 yrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:33 AM
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It is similar, I agree. Fat women cop a lot of flack behind their back. The advantage for the fat women minus any metabolic/health issue is that she has the ability to slim down, whereas the short dude, hanging from a bar with weights on his legs for 3 hrs a day and doubling his food intake along with spending thousands a year on GH injections is not going to do a damn thing for his height. The other aspect is that the refusal to date their equivalent imo, is stronger for short/petite women than…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:06 AM
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But the thing is its not trivial for many women, its a big deal for them. Lying is stupid when the guy is 5'9 and is going on a date with a 5'9 girl and if she is boosting her stature with high heels, even more so, as it going to be so obvious when they meet face to face in first 5 seconds and they get annoyed (because be Bs'd but also because its not a trivial issue for them) Still there are plenty of shorter guys who feel the request on 'must be tall' or 'must be x taller than me in heels' com…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:01 AM
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Yeh why haven't they been bred out existence by not being able to hunt & kill sabre tooth tigers or mammoths when they hit puberty back in prehistoric era. Its not like they could hunt & kill smaller creatures, or catch fish or hunt in packs or club an invader over the head. Most indigenous tribal people work together to take care of the group rather than everyone going off on their own to try and hunt for food and have a fuck you I got mine attitude. It's even money bet with a shorter endomorph…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 04:50 AM
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Did not realise CA had made allowance for that. Good on them. I think its ridiculous when I've read of guys going down for rape after meeting a young woman in a bar/club or even online dating site where she lied about her age and the guy is supposed ot be responsible for somehow knowing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:43 AM
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Yikes. That'll kill a guy's oneitis real good. this sort of scenario has played out a fair bit I bet with friendzone guys, but typically just not as in your face as your experience. Often though its the friendzone guy hearing a story back thru friends about a hookup she had or seeing her leave a party/club with some guy she just met 1/2 hr ago that they get a wake up call that a stranger is more special than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:01 PM
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I think explains quite a few friendzone dudes outlook. It was mine when I was younger and crazy over a couple of girls I knew. Playing the long game certainly was not my preferred method but when you don't have the looks or charisma you hope as they spend more time in your company you can win them over. Lots of women will hate on friendzone guys by trying to claim they only 'act' nice and pretend to like the girls just to get to get in her pants, but that's nonsense for the most part. Friendzone…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:50 PM
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Isn’t a huge part of trp is the higher a woman’s n count is, the lower her smv - No, more a case of lower RMV. Yes if women were like gay dudes they would (and by extension the average dude too) have higher count of sex partners. Where I live I read the average for a gay man is 65. If the average women were a lot more DTF I feel it would suit the average guy more...assuming it was spread out across the spectrum of guys and not biased towards a stereotypical 'hot type' of man. With gay gays that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:35 PM
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you're right. Tinder was a huge hit in that regard - show your pics and stats, but I think some people here are putting to much emphasis on Tinder as being the only thing online that changed the dating landscape. Its not like OKC, POF didn't use photos or have an imbalance of males, or users didn't have the same attitudes and expectations in the pre-swipe era, especially as the masses increasing came online via tablets & phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:57 AM
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The thing is that even a small percentage of men at the bottom not getting anything hurts the society. I'm not so sure that can be quantified. In the US jails are packed with men, but that trend started quite a while back and that was more a case of change in sentencing, war on drugs, changes in discretionary sentencing, than spike in sexless men getting up to trouble. A test case for this would be China and their many years of 1 child policy resulting in many excess millions of men who will nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:26 PM
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I agree the AF/BB is not rampant, but I definitely know a number of women who played it that way. They weren't necessarily following the Sheryl Sandberg recipe but they dated very different guys when they got older. Also BB does not mean the dude is making big bucks. Owning his own place and having a modest but above average income and being a supportive nice guy who is a bit on the desperate side or totally BP to allow her to get her way in the relationship is enough. As for women making good $…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:14 AM
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"not here for a hookup" Other reasons... in case other family members, friends or co-workers see their profiler online, then they can say they are 'not that type of girl'. Its an escape clause. If they fancy a guy and go out with him and want to go back to his place to screw they can and say he is special and they are breaking their rule for him, or if they find the guy not that appealing on the date and he is pushing to come back to his place, she push his expectations down with my profile said…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 05:59 AM
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What evolutionary point would there be for a woman to "change preferences" with age? At what point it WOULDN'T it be in humanity's best interest to select the best genes? After the menopause maybe, but that's not a preference change, really. As someone else pointed out, a hunky dude does not necessarily equate to 'best' genes. Women's priorities changes as they get older. The nice guy who is 'okay' looking and would make a great doting father, and is supportive on household tasks, and has a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:49 AM
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Nevada is a bit of an unusual case. Yes there are numerous legal brothels there but they get a huge influx of money and 53 million tourists most looking for entertainment. A better test case would be to see what difference there is if say Vermont or Idaho had brothels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:24 PM
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where I live is legal and I'm really skeptical of this claim. I hear about it were I live but there is hardly any stories of operations getting busted. Brothels are monitored, hookers pay tax, I cant imagine that say removing prohibition on alcohol or tobacco or porn or gambling or steroids is going to make the black market equivalents even boom more. the only way that could happen is if the legal version was taxed very heavy and the penalties light. Alcohol/tobacco is where I am but never hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:10 PM
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I think that's more so as regards marriage that ends in divorce, or else some BP guys take their dates to fancy restaurants plus buy a rose from street vendor and then on to the theatre in an attempt to woo her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:48 PM
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High-functioning ones are really difficult to find. Yep - In upper management there certainly are psychopaths. Other people are just tools to be used to make them more money. Depends what your lies are and the consequences and who gets hurt and who finds out. when it comes to game, psychopaths would treat it very much as an object orientated outcome and wouldn't give a shit about hurting anyone else's feelings - the woman's or even a friend/acquaintance who's girlfriend they will try to sleep wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:06 AM
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Correct. women give others the advice...the bad sex ones don't count + the sex when drunk times don't count + yolo holiday sex doesn't count. Others who hate lying will answer with 'I've had my share of fun' or 'who cares about the past' or something vague and avoiding, and if the guy pushes for more will then start to shame him, for asking about something that only kids in high school do or some variation of. That scenario you gave as well, she used to be freaky thing for her FWB guys but not f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:21 PM
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IDK - going from some of the RP articles some of them I wouldn't describe like that which is why I used the term accomplished, and university educated women with careers likely wouldn't have sort some of these guys out. That's part of the issue with some of these discussions in that people have their own interpretations of terms. As for the 'more successful/better looking' element, well that's relative to the women, and would not have meant these guys were in the so called top 10-20% by any mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 10:21 AM
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I have, not saying its rampant though. but I'm not the current young generation. I saw it in 3 groups - ther girls who liked to party in their late teens to early 20s, the single moms, the better looking divorcees in their 30s (both blue collar/white collar). The concept of AF/BB is over done though. Most of these women were not having flings with alphas, more a case of guys you could just tell were not going to stick around or guys better looking/more successful, cocky/badboy/edgy types, marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:01 AM
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lol, yeh pretty much. A good looking fit build guy (or girl) can still look good in Walmart discount clothes. Look at what Brando did for the simple white t-shirt & jeans look back in the 50s. Still I cant knock the concept of well fitting outfit, but from my experience I never got complimented more on my style than when I bulked up even though my fashion style hadn't changed much beyond getting some bigger sizes. I remember getting compliments wearing flannelette shirts (gstar+tigh fit)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:35 AM
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Good point. My experiences were not so much the woman freaking out, but more an subtle awkwardness, and shift down in her level of affection/love. or having it used against you when the relationship deteriorates a years or two later.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:25 AM
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the yachting was just around the local bay and its cold out a lot of the year where we live plus the yacht was no rich mans yacht more like a hobby sailing yacht. He didn't dress like money (tho was a good earner) and didn't talk himself up and I assume it didn't have any cache as he struggled for numerous years between gfs. The few women who went sailing with him were expected to pitch in and help tack & jibe and maybe that put a few off. IDK.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 06:54 AM
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There are going to activities/skills that really don't add a lot to a guy's appeal or the opportunity to socilaise with 'single' women more in the pursuit of that activity. Some of my friends were big into the car scene, working on cars and hotting them up. My cousin was big into yachting. I was into rock climbing (helped a little). Another friend into target practice. Another into Mu Tai. Another into gold prospecting. None of these really opened up doors when it came to women. It was more a ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 05:10 AM
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The study focused on older wives coming down with cancer. Not the same demographic I made that comment in relation to. No debunking
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 12:48 PM
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younger people are actually having less sex And a factor in that could easily be they are having more sporadic non commitment sex than sex in a committed serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:55 AM
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I agree. I think its ridiculous to try and pin it all on chad cock hopping, but its not like those other (relevant) factors don't mean that she can't be having fun just dating around discovering herself and what she wants in life in the meantime especially when there is much reduced moral shame with it in the bigger more liberal cities and those other factors take the priority in life from having to make a proper long-term decision on a partner till later in life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:48 AM
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To me it doesn't contradict hypergamy. While this studies older long-term married couples, when it comes to relationships that are not long-term yet or involves dating, women are more inclined to give the male with health issues the flick (from my observations over the years). Hypergamy at work when the woman is making her decision to select the guy or stay in a relationship (not marriage) with him. Many women will consider a man with health issues less masculine/less a man/less capable/less a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 12:48 AM
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When a woman is young in her prime beauty years, imo she doesn't have to put in a lot of effort to be beautiful. Nature did a really good job of making the average young woman sexy to the average young horny male. In terms of long term motivation all you need do is live a healthy lifestyle and stay fit and in shape and it will stand you in good steed for later in life. As for men usually ditching their wives when they hit middle age, is that the norm for all the women you know? Sure it happens b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:58 PM
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This is my take on RP. Lots of guys in marriages -take on the redpoll to take back better frame in their marriage...if possible or at least not make the same mistakes in their next LTR post divorce. It not all about spinning plates though there is an element of that when the men are single. A guy with solid frame and lots of options is likely going to end up in a better relationship than his BP days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 09:37 PM
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Agree with this. Her level of career success & ambition are desirable traits but its not going to make up for a women I have meh attraction for with her looks and a boring, moody, self centered personality. To me her personality & attitude counts for more than her education level. As the guy above said you are comparing extremes...a gorgeous women is not necessarily going to be a total bimbo, and if any guy dated such a woman of their dreams who was, many would soon learn the downside. Lots of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:24 PM
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I think it might be. that does sound familiar. Of course having a good looking pic & profile gets the guy's foot in the door, and being good at txt game just tops it off for sealing the deal. The guys in the article were still getting same week/day sex however. I think the article came out about 2015 if its the one that comes up in www search. I can't remember if the journalist tried to paint that dating scene as being representative of all men's experiences or what all women faced when dating. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 01:06 AM
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I agree. too many (blackpillers) see the market in extremes. 'Chads are the top 20% and are playing the field with 80% of women', 'if you're not hot your ugly'. in my observations the top notch guys are not especially total man whores and they are not slumming it. Sure they get tempted plenty though. The biggest players imo were the 8-7-6 dudes. Many of them have something to prove, and many of these dudes will drop down 3 notches to score an easy NSA hookup. Just don't be fat' is the benchmark …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 06:30 AM
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My observations of women over the years (and its the same with guys except the around the other way more often), is that many have a dual dating strategy. Yes they want a relationship with guy they find desirable, have good connection with, however in the meantime they are open to hookups/flings with guys better than they would expect or typically get for a LTR. Numerous of these hotter guys the women are going to see as fuckbois and are not going to be disappointed when its just a fling especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:04 AM
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I’ve found tinder men to be so so pushy. Even the messages are gross There is an article on Vanity Fair on tinder that came out a few years ago that is a bit of an eye opener on modern dating culture. It focuses on a bunch of good looking young men working on wall street and their experiences. these guys were getting laid with multiple new women a week, more often first date sex. They were so cocky with 'wanna smash tonight' type messages. Ive seen some of the online dating posts from a few good…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:29 AM
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Not just on this subreddit but in many socialmedia posts there is tendency to exaggerate or use extreme examples to support arguments. The theme of the OP is valid, but its peppered with extremes... 'only a tiny percent of men are able to engage ' 'incredibly attractive men' 'just been obliterated' that paint a much more bleak situation of reality. Male thirst and hypergamy and hookup culture and more single men are all interconnected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:09 AM
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I agree with this. in my personal experience and seeing things take place in others relationships. I find the women who gush over their husband or boyfriend being vulnerable or crying that it tends to be that they are dating the more stoic or rugged masculine man, and they get to see a different emotional facet to him and really appreciate it (especially if they kids in the future with him), but for those women dating less macho guys, the threshold for which she views him in a less strong, domin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 05:29 AM
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It’s a way of socially signaling that the women are beneath them. Nuh uh. Do they teach that is sociology 101 now at university. At the local bars/pubs were I am guys typically go dressed as they are as they go to socialize with their mates and have a beer. If there any single women there and not isolating themselves at a table with her friends, they will try to chat them up but its low key effort as its not their priority for being there. The women will still get dressed up even if they are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 02:18 AM
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Are there really that many shows/movies out there of the dork getting happy ending with cheerleader. I cant think of many. 'she's out of your league', 'superbad', scott pilgrim as you say 'bud in married with children..but only at end of series after being butt of jokes for most seasons' are the few that come to mind. Its not exactly of Hollywood trope. You can balance that out with the dorky plain girl (played by an attractive actress) getting makeover and now turning al the guys heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 01:44 AM
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I wouldn't call that fake virtue signaling - to me that is more like saying you don't care much about what a guy looks like and its personality that counts but you only date say rugged guys built like footballers. I would say most women are like you and want to avoid confrontation or being seen as shallow or being seen as mean or controversial, and want to be liked by everyone in the social group so they tend to avoid saying those things 'I wont date such and such' unless its in terms of somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 01:27 AM
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yes, they do. I've picked up on that over the years, and it always when dating & attraction conversations popup and there are women involved, and they know they will be getting lots of the equivalent of Likes from the women there. A few really good looking guys do it too, again when around women, but there was another element to it in that it downplayed their good fortune in being born to attractive parents, and rather their success with women was due to skill or force of personality....and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 12:41 AM
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that's what I suspected. The good looking guys I knew had a mixture of characters, but the entertainment/party scene where there was drinking involved was really their happy hunting ground (and same for me). Girls would hit on them, ask them to take them home to fuck (as blatant as that), write their number on their arm or hand them coaster with their number on it or drop business card into their pocket when leaving, etc, and a number of times the guy in question hadn't even chatted to her. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 07:53 AM
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The non-feminist ones. The ones that embrace feminism seem to be quite unhappy later in life. I've noticed this as well. Its like the loss of their beauty privilege hits them harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 05:25 AM
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I'd say this would be a factor. While he might be good looking he still needs to exude charisma, machismo vibes or a fun loving guy attitude to encourage women to cross that boundary to make the first move. If you're attractive women make it real easy to ask them out. The IOI's come thick and fast from women if the guy also has a flirty nature, so while the woman might not directly ask the guy on a date, plenty will make it clear they fancy him and open to being asked or even more blatantly hint…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 04:29 AM
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the thing is, how far back was high school. If it was 5 yrs ago then it not too much of a task to get rid of a bit of a gut, but if it was 20 yrs ago, its much harder, and more so with a beer gut. Also if he is older, just doing okay could well be good enough for the effort trade off + he enjoys still hanging out with his buddies drinking. Also doing well just at 16/17 I don't know if that's the benchmark for living life as a hot guy. I bet a lot of celebs let themselves go so then they can do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 04:09 AM
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Good to see the legit post back on this from a younger woman's perspective who has experienced it. What you wrote has been my experience and that of a few of my friends who ended up dating women a fair bit younger. So many people (both older & younger, male but mostly female) think of such relationships as predatory and very much one sided in favour of the man. There is a post just a bit above that views it as the guy only using the young woman for sex, like it a one way transaction that takes j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:55 AM
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Gee you spend a bit on your hair. I have struggled with weight off and on for numerous years, and I can relate to your post to an extent. Doing interesting sporting activities, art, post grad studies, health focused & dressing stylish really didn't count for much from 'single' women's perspective until I got bulked up, and then it became cool & interesting for women. Once you past a certain threshold in looks, then those extra elements start to pay dividends. The height factor is definitely goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:40 PM
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lol, yes, this is what used to substitute for porn back in the 50s/60s, then it was your dads stash of old playboys 60s/70s, then the 70s/80s European porno mags, then the soft core porn tapes for the 80s/90s. XXX stores were in dingy parts of town and synonymous with guys in overcoats & hats going in incognito. Hard to say how it would change the dating market, but I think guys would possibly try to hang out and hookup with girls more with less ubiquitous streaming free hardcore porn, but as ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:03 AM
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This is definitely a factor with a number of late bloomer guys I know. Getting attention when they are 30+ from women the same age they appreciate but are for most the most part they are not punching the air with excitement, though a few of the more lonely desperate ones were so glad to not be single anymore. There are many un-sexy, lower energy, more stress older age years to spend with long-term partner and they want some of the sexy fun loving youthful adventurous years that start of with lus…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 01:46 AM
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absolutely as much as the some of the women on online forums say no way I've seen it so many times over the years, and have had some female friends admit to it (not in a group setting of course). None of the womanisers I've known over the years had any trouble getting relationships. Maybe the women didn't know their exact # but they knew enough he was a pants man. Hey its possible a girl knocked them back for being a man whore and they don't say but even if so there is no shortage of women who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 08:06 AM
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It was probably your post, I was in agreement with you and just adding another voice, and was not posting to make you more aware. I should have said 'people need' instead of 'you need'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:14 AM
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I agree. what a minority of guys online say and how life actually effects you are two different things. In the context of this thread what counts is what actually takes place in society and is experienced by the woman and her friends. Generally I find women care much more about how the guys they desire view them as opposed to the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:44 AM
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yep you really need to read the full details on some of these studies (low threshold on definition) that claim really high sexual assault or rape studies as well as who did the study. Telling a dirty joke to a women who finds it offensive can be considered sexual harassment. There is a BIG difference sexual harassment and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:14 AM
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My opinion is just ignore them, not necessarily block them unless they become annoying because you went silent on them. In saying though some guys react back to the feedback they receive from the female, so hopefully you put in effort back. I used to find it frustrating with online dating just getting back a lol or handful of words as replies, and I was the one having to keep up the conversation. I soon learned to drop the level of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:49 AM
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I didn't mind my girlfriends dressing sexy when out with me, but not so much if she was going out with her friends. Likewise I didn't mind my girlfriends being friendly flirty with others, but only if that was her true nature and she wasn't selective about it & she knew her boundaries, and didn't let it get to the point where it was leading another guy on or giving him the impression she was looking for side action or it was obviously being disrespectful to me. Likewise I didn't want to be reign…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 02:26 AM
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There is a big variation in the type of women in the trade. a lot of women picture truck stop hookers doing bjs for drug money, but it covers the spectrum up to $3000/nite models & top end porn stars. The guys who do well scoring lots of women over the years will have had sex with numerous women he only met a few hours ago at a party, bar or club, maybe with condom maybe not, and unlike the prostitute (in regulated places) who knows when she last visited a VD clinic if ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:59 AM
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Yeh I bet working out in the gym surrounded by muscled up gym bros pumping iron is feeding into her subconscious desires big time. meanwhile her boyfriend who is unable to bang her till marriage is holding himself back on the lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 04:40 AM
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A lot of people downplay what they really desire, you have to focus on their actions more than words. Quite a few will dismiss their expectations with comments such as 'its not like I'm looking for a male model / fitness babe. Yeh that's true, but they could well not be looking down much lower but they won't say that. Also your post emphasises fitness and the reality is someone not being fat is not necessarily a proxy for being in great shape. Lots of people can have a decent body just by watchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 03:57 AM
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Correct. For both sexes it will definitely boost their prospects of the other person wanting more. For an attractive woman she want need to worry so much about her performance, and lots of guy's will overlook it due to simply being more aroused with her beauty, but for a less attractive women a raunchy or an enthusiastic effort will definitely boost her prospects of a guy sticking around. I'd say it depends on how many options the guy has if he is willing to put up with star fish sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:18 AM
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I'm sure a lot of guys unsubscribe when they get a girl/s and just deal with them direct like you say and just like with the freelancer gig sites. It will be up to the guy and girl to set the rates and from what I've read of a few guy's experiences its all kind of vague early on to avoid it being outright prostitution, and this leaves it open to opportunism by either one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 02:08 AM
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The going without sex element gets played down by many posters on here as 'you dont need it you just want it', but to use another analogy, how would that go down if governments banned IVF programs, surrogate babies, fertility clinics and adoption. Its just a selfish want (tho not so much when it comes to adoption), but a LOT of women don't see it like that. They see it almost as a right, and its why taxpayer subsidised to help overcome nature not working out for them. It says that casual sex is …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:56 AM
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shaming tactics
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:39 AM
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Really. I'm surprised, both at the rate, plus also that rates are listed, unless you are going off stories of the guys that use them. I always thought it ran to high class escort levels, and some girls having their rent paid, school fees, classy restaurants, trips away, luxury shopping trips, etc, with quite a few on like a weekly retainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:30 PM
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decriminalization is typically based on the Nordic model meaning its legal to sell, but illegal to buy. A way to please both those against it & for it at the same time via pretending to meet in the middle in some nonsensical way. I know that's such stupid legislation, but I can see why they do in the nordic countries, to appease the women, but also staying progressive. Its just making one party to the transaction a criminal and the other innocent, and given the nature of the prostitution market …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:17 PM
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Opinions are going to be all the place. imo 'high' is when your count is close to your age or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:56 PM
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what reason does she have to believe I'm not a serial killer? Statistics. How many serial killers are roaming the streets, especially in terms of their MO being to chat women up at gyms, supermarkets, on the commuter train, at lunch cafeteria, etc, then butcher them on the date. Its pretty damn rare. Like the women I know who say they worry about meeting an axe murders on Ok-cupid or whatever. For the number of online interactions that take place (millions a week) the number of women getting mur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:50 PM
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Thanks. That ABC 40% figure is crazy (high) but then article was contradictory on some of the other studies mentioned. If young people spend more time single then definitely more are going to get less + it will be less as evenly distributed too if NSA sex substitutes for relationship sex. The msm wont delve much into the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:16 AM
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Sad. Its like one of my mate's relationship. He could hardly touch the baby and is limited in decisions involving what's best for the daughter now and she bosses him and he has way more assets at stake, though she doesn't throw around the D word, but she has walked out and he has gone sucking up after her. He tries to put his foot down now but he caved in in the early years and it doesn't work. It was really clear 'her' child is no.1 priority in her life. He put the ball & chain on his own leg t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:30 AM
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For some of these wanna be brides the green card is half the goal, the splitting of assets with no fault divorce is the other juicy half. Cheat on your new hubby and what are the consequences if it blows up, freedom, citizenship in a more prosperous country, a solid downpayment on an apartment after his house and or business is mortgaged or sold, maybe some alimony. I suspect for some of the older 50up dudes who have younger pretty import they turn a blind eye to her cheating to have pretty comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 02:01 AM
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Got a link. For the people on this subreddit though the key demograpthic stats they will be interested in is from 18 to 40 say. If it covers the entire population and the number of people over 60 is expanding then that is going to drag the figures down. That US study linked showed that in fact the sexless rate is definitely increasing with young men going without more but couldn't see that figure hitting 40%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:43 AM
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Far and away with the girls/women Ive known over the years who were down to fuck, they had a type or mostly hooked up with better than they would get for a committed relationship or with guys that just were not interested in anything serious with them even though many would be loathe to admit it. The thing is that many regular women go for the same guys when between relationships with regular guys too. They say to the hookup guys I dont normally do this (have sex same day met or sleep with frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:20 AM
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I think trying to shoe horn dating into pareto principle is a bit over done, but so many people, especially women equate it back to relationships which is nonsense. They'll say 80% of their girlfriends are in committed relationships and not part of some guys harem. Even using the word harem in this opening post is misleading as it assumes a select group of men have many women in 'current' rotation which is nonsense. I know a bunch of guys that have/had 2-3-4 regular FWBs and their total sex life…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:06 AM
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I disagree on that. It you are talking about women having lots of casual sex then yes they are a minority. However a lot, and I would say the majority of women today have casual sex typically in periods between long term relationships, and I include ONS, flings, affairs, FWBs, fuck buddies in that. It does not mean they are promiscuous but those windows of YOLO times will be where they clock up the majority of their sex partners and its typically not with an eclectic bunch of random guys but a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:49 AM
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but even these 6’2 wannabe ig boys ar wearing them so arm’s race This is what ive noticed in the last decade. Tall guys who already have an advantage saying they pump up their height for online dating, so the 6' dude who now says he's 6'2 is now going to out trump more guys, and if he dates shorter women they aint going to know he fibbing unlike the guy's close to her height. And a few other guys I know who are 6'+ wear these high heeled workboots all the time and now look 6'2+, and someone I pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 06:04 AM
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Lots of southern European's in my area where I grew up and I noticed the shorter Greek, Italian, Yugo, Lebo, Turkish guys still had nice girlfriends and didn't stay single for years, and what helped was they dated within their culture and their women don't have that height hangup.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:44 AM
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absolutely. These guys saying its a waste of time are too hung on height being the end all and be all apart from $. For lots of women they need the 'stand on my tippy toes to kiss a guy' thing to give them the tingles, but for a lot of women it will be -1 on the height +1 on the physique. There are not enough 6 footer dudes to go around and women don't have one bullet item on their tick off list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:39 AM
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Its not. its nonsense in modern era in low crime modern cities, but it gets used as justification. What if there is a home invasion by armed thugs, what if there is a fire in the house and I need a man I can count on to save our family, or that time they got verbally hassled walking through carpark on their own (so now they need big guy boyfriend to chaperone them). From a evo pysch aspect I can understand the appeal to an extent but even then its very much Caucasian (N+W EU heritage) thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:55 AM
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intimidating > yeh then lots (not all) of girls will use that 'napoleon complex' / 'short guy attitude syndrome' to justify not wanting to get involved with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:51 AM
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I think this is a factor. When single no I don't think women in general seek sexual variety. Maybe with sex acts but not so much with lots of men, but a few to clock up some sexcapade experiences. its often a YOLO thing rather than a deliberate intention than it is with men. But in a LTR I do suspect lots of women get bored, and while they might not want to have a ONS every month on the sly, lots would like a lover (limited variety) to spice up their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:00 AM
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Don't know about that...maybe engaged at 29 and to a 25 yr old more so these days I reckon
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:02 AM
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I'd say most non traditional women these days fall into this category, but I don't know if I classify it as riding the CC. It depends how long the pattern is for and if the longer term relationships are with guys they can see being any good for them long term or are guys a bit out of their league, fun guys, married guys, bad boy types, etc that they are making the most of their youthful sexy years. I know quite a few that dated around in their early 20s (mix of ONS, flings, STRs, LTRs), married …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:48 AM
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not 100 for me. A big appeal to younger women for me is their yolo spirit, their happy go lucky nature, their girlyness, their enthusiasm, no tick off list.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:03 AM
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and society is stagnant that's a bit extreme. The last 60 yrs has seen huge number of patents issued, and there has been huge advances in technology and medicine. Things might have slowed a bit in terms of break thru discoveries but its gets harder for a lone tinkerer to make a break thru in his lab these days as all the easy low funding discoveries have been made.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:19 AM
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good points. Yes the curtural aspect needs to be taken into account. Studies on happiness show that people in countries that are dirt poor can still have high happiness levels, the key aspect to this is how people compare themselves to their friends and others in society. If most people in Chad are poor and citizens don't get bombarded with ads for products & lifestyle items they are told they need to have a more fulfilling life but cant afford then they are less likely to feel inadequate or mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:53 AM
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Exactly. Women when in the honeymoon phase of a new relationship especially can be up for it every day, and can be super horny at certain times of the month, but no they are not as unrelenting libido wise as a typical male. Testosterone makes a big difference. Unlike men, when women drink alcohol it actually raises their T levels, which is a big factor in why there is so much drunk sex that happens. Its why its men who drop their standards for sex. There was huge imbalance on ratio of men to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:10 AM
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You're right about the vast majority of women volunteering not being young (40+). I'm not sure what sort of place the OP was at at but typically its not a bonanza. The one volunteering outfit where I was a bit surprised was a community arts & crafts group that sometimes did charity fund raising, but still there were minimal women there in their early 20s and a couple early 30s I was attracted to I discover not single, so as you say dont assume that these women are single especially the fun, attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 03:50 AM
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Likewise doing body building really hit this home to me, though even before I started to do well in that l, I was conscious that a lot of women have selective personalities based on the looks/social status of the guy, just on going to lots of parties and observing the interactions with my friends. Like you say I don't think most realise it and I think many women are somewhat clueless of this when struggling guys complain of crappy treatment and women relate it to themselves and their friends & c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:58 AM
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Ive known a few nurses and and have a relative who also relayed stories to me of her co-workers and yeh that they like to blow of steam by sleeping around a fair bit when single, and will get involved with male co-workers & doctors. Similar to air hostesses, another 'nurturing' type profession. I do think the OPs advice is good, in terms of finding a more caring, nurturing woman at aq volunteer organisation than randomly at a bar or in the money focused role in the corporate sector.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:44 AM
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25-35 year old guys who have massive n-counts and are really really sad. Strange. I'm gen x and the guys I knew in this category I would not have described as sad. A couple had issues and one was depressed when he was lonely, but otherwise, they were fine. I guess it depends more on their age bracket when they were doing this lifestyle and how much else they had going on in their life as well. For most getting laid was not the highlight of their year and only goal in life. Most of them I would n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:05 AM
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"to women who are either in the top 1 percentile of attractiveness or are so surgically enhanced that they no longer seem to be on the spectrum oof natural female beauty" that's such a huge over exaggeration. Its like women who act like female pornstars are hand picked women who train in sex training centres for 3 yrs then qualify as pornstar elite fuckers, and they set too high of a bar for them to compete against with the average guy and his expectations. The average guys expectations are he w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:48 AM
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I don't think its as simple as the woman needing to get compliments, flirting and sex to feel validated (unless the woman is not so attractive and its a rare event or has low self esteem then it would help make her feel better about herself, but I definitely do think it applies in regards to how attractive the man in question is who is flirting with her. The more attractive or high status the guy is the more she will feel special. The same applies to men to. Being desired by the more desirable i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:27 AM
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My (gen x male) observations are that the guys that had the hardest time with accepting that young women are not into them anymore are the ones that have slept with plenty over the years. I would also imagine the dudes who spent numerous years single in their 20s would also find it disappointing to accept they missed out on those fun loving happy go lucky girl years, but I don't think they were deluded that they were going crack it good with the juniors now in their late 30s up, except maybe tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:47 AM
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Yes this is true, but HV is not exclusively this. Status and how sort after he is by other women plays a big part of how much of a catch a woman will view him. A man that thinks he's dating the best he's ever met will definitely want to lock down a relationship but will she likely see him the same. For the lucky ones, it will be mutual feelings. Another aspect that will weigh on many guys minds (esp those on here), is they want to be seen as more than the good commitment man to feel special, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:38 PM
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that's the trouble, for the more assertive guys making random convo with a girl they happen to be near out in public or at a bar, they will latch on to that fun bit of flirting and think they are in, and will try to escalate. It will get awkward for the less confident women, but will rarely result in the guy attacking the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:44 AM
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'I personally was attacked by FOUR men in front of other people and no one did a thing.' This scenario has to be extremely rare. I find too when some women say attacked or abused they mean the guy yelled at them, or getting hassled by a guy meant the guy made a 4 second comment about her looks as she walked past. You have your experiences and we don't know what really what went down, but I know of some of the women I know of the details of their feared for their life incident and its actually ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:36 AM
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Its more a matter of being naïve rather than stupid. They only meet her in her mid 30s and how she presents herself self now, they have no idea what she got up to in her 20s/early 30s, especially if she doesn't hang out with the old crowd anymore or goes out much now, and dresses & acts more conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:38 PM
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Ive seen marriage breakups where the wife outstrips her husband and both parties make this claim...the hang up was with the other one. Who knows for sure. I suspect its more likely the wife given hypergamy instincts. I think the guy getting worked up over his wife earning more, would have been something more common in past generations (pre 2000), but in the big city metro high cost of living lifestyle I reckon there would be a lot less men these days getting upset that their gf/wife makes great …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:17 PM
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while there is truth in the OP's remarks, lots of women when they hit late 30s are still looking for a settle down with good provider guy, be it the good earning career women who wants to tick having a baby of her life list and drop out of the work force and cant stand the thought of being with a guy that's not financial or at the other end, the single moms who's beauty is fading and they are getting tired of FWBs snd want to have a lifestyle where they don't quite have to struggle so much & hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:01 PM
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putting them on a pedestal doesn't necessarily mean they are are scared of them. The hotter ones, the guys will be intimidated to ask them but not necessarily too scared to talk to them in all cases. If they got good IOIs back from the woman many would ask her out. Also putting them on a pedestal means for many they think any pretty woman is more special then them, but still that does not necessarily translate to scared of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:47 AM
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It just sucks so much that he can’t only be attracted to me.... From nature's perspective that is terrible design. Propagation of the species does not work too well, if everyone is wandering thru the years looking for that special someone to have that ammaaazing chemistry with. Nature did a good job of making lots of young women sexy to the average guy. If guys were as picky as women dating would be a lot harder. The opening thread over-exaggerates how rampant attraction is for all guys. There i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:09 PM
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Yep. This is my take on it. Do your fair share, but don't count on her getting more aroused over your eagerness to help out. In fact it might be the opposite. I've seen some sociology study done on a variation of this very topic and the outcomes was guys who do more housework actually got less sex than the blokes that did less. The diagnosis was good houseworker hubby was seen as less masculine/dominant, while it might help the wife to feel less resentful it didn't flip the switch to desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:36 PM
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nit really imo. Maybe from your perspective you like the 'the past is in the past ask no questions' attitude, but Ive tended to find quite a few women are curious about their guy's past, maybe not straight off but as the weeks role by. They will use it to evaluate his long term potential, and this thread is a classic example, even though she got disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:55 AM
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I don't think they worry about it typically when single and dating, but only if they come across a guy that captures their interest or who is showing strong interest in them, and they then discover he has been single for ages, they will make a mental evaluation as to why. If the guy was working at antartic base for last 3 years or digging for dinosaur bones in mongolia then that would be a good reason They will typically want to snag the guy that is more sort after by other women, rather than th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:27 AM
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" "teach" and become more of a parent than a partner. " - imo this aspect overplayed by lots of women, especially if they have never been a relationship with a dude who has been single for ages and had a shitty experience, but they read about one in cosmo so thats next best thing. They will tell from his looks & charisma whether its been because he was enjoying the foot loose fancy free lifestyle, focusing on himself but still getting snatch every so often when he wanted or if he was single for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:08 AM
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Yep. One type for one phase in her life and the other for another phase. One type for fun loving periods the other for LTRs. The HVM will show up in both phases unless they stay single for life but not enough of them to go around for marriage, but for the less attractive men being more attentive really wont trigger the desire levels in many women to be considered HV even though they are value adding to her life more. Really though the AFBB dichotomy is too extreme to encompass all men and there …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 03:41 AM
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not really. The ratio of male gigolos or sugar baby boys making a living off women is probably 1:400 of their female prostitute equivalent. The desire (demand) is just not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:14 PM
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Most of the older (say 30 up) women I know who were single for any length of time than just brief have hooked up with younger dudes (10+ yrs difference). A big factor that changed things imo, was the hookup culture that came along in the early 2000s, and online dating. Like you say with online dating a lot of it is on the sly plus also as you say while most women wont be proactive on trying to attract younger men, with online dating where heaps of younger dudes contact older woman for NSA sex al…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 10:20 AM
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Exactly. It might not come up during the getting to know you dating phase, but once in the relation imo its been rare where past love live hasn't been discussed a few months into the relationship, though some guys think they can vet on the first few dates. Women love to talk when they feel comfy though for sure some will be vague on some aspects especially if they think the guy is a bit straight laced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:52 AM
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Yeh a lot of women will get their back up over being asked, and in my observations it tends to be the former good time party girl ones where it rankles them, and I do know guys that take note of the narky/shaming reaction just as some women here take note of the guy having asked the question, especially if they they have had a negative outcome from the past in being too upfront. Some guys too have a really strict definition of slut I find too. The more savvy guys wont ask, but will rather try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:43 AM
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