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Most important thing to do before you go to the theater/drive in, establish some kino! Nothing is more awkward than sitting there awkwardly next to her not sure what to do with your hands or arms.
/r/seduction23/02/16 08:03 PM
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"With great power, comes great responsibility"
/r/seduction05/02/16 02:28 PM
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Well done! Did same thing a few weeks ago. Visiting friend in a new city, took them out of drinks, meets girl. There's obvious IOI's and we're talking and we're isolated. The group decided to bounce venues and she comes with along with a couple of her friends. We were about half way walking to the bar, we were a bit slower than the others. I stopped, two steps behind her, she turns around, I said "wait..." and kissed her. Then I said "well now that that's over with, you were saying?" The rest of…
/r/seduction10/01/16 07:48 AM
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Someone look up that kino escalation ladder by what's his face. Most of this list is pretty solid. Some are very situational.
/r/seduction08/01/16 08:20 PM
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Most girls will see through it, but it'll usually be a cute "Your hand is cold? Sure it is" kinda flirty response rather than "No it's not, you're just trying to violate my womanhood by holding my hand! Ugh!"
/r/seduction08/01/16 08:19 PM
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Easiest way to friendzone a girl is to talk about other girls in front of her. You definitely don't want to make it obvious that you're trying to friendzone her, that's how things become awkward. If you start talking about another girl, asking this girl for advice, etc, she'll get the hint.
/r/seduction08/09/15 07:40 AM
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This is seriously nothing new. Has the author even read actual pickup material on texting? He should read Braddock's Guide to Texting. It's a bit outdated (2010 I think) but still perfectly adaptable to today's texting climate. Here's some comments on the book: http://www.theattractionforums.com/love-systems-reviews/113412-braddock-mr-m-ultimate-guide-text-phone-game.html
/r/seduction19/05/15 01:55 PM
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If you have no way to meet anyone at your school, which seems a bit weird, you can checkout www.meetup.com. There's plenty of groups in NYC for people in their 20's. Also, feel free to be friends with girls. You don't always have to hang out with guys
/r/seduction05/05/15 02:55 PM
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They say that dating becomes easier and simpler with age. This is partly due to men becoming mature, and girls becoming women. Much of of the outer game techniques in the pick up community are geared towards women in general, but you'll notice they work more consistently for certain age groups and maturity levels. With time, you may notice that more mature girls/women will not focus on your first impression as much, and give you time to show her your personality. Less mature girls tend to rely o…
/r/seduction04/05/15 03:25 AM
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It's not so much that I'm nerdy, but more so the fact that most people around me have never met an Asian person before, besides the guy who makes their General Tsos or does their nails. I am considering getting a professional photographer to take a few pictures of me at some point. Nothing too narcissistic but just a little.
/r/seduction29/04/15 12:22 PM
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In my experience, avoid Match.com/eHarmony/anything "paid to message". It significantly reduces the amount of people who actually will message you back, and you end up wondering if they're not responding because they don't like you, or because they aren't paying for the service. OKC has been pretty good, gone on many dates, dated a girl off OKC last year for a few months. Nothing outstanding, but still decent. I hate Tinder. I'm Asian, average looks, and live in a mostly white area. Your mileage…
/r/seduction29/04/15 12:47 AM
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That's awesome!! Yea being at peace with yourself and being detached from the outcome of events beyond one's control are great ways to help with a lot of common psychological issues, and just makes everyone a bit happier.
/r/seduction28/04/15 03:37 AM
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I strongly recommend www.meetup.com There's usually a 20's or 30's or new in town meetup group. Typically it's happy hour, trivia nights, random fun things to do around town, etc. Go to them, and go regularly. Make friends. Hang out with friends during meetups and outside meetups (ie I'm going to a friends birthday party this weekend, and I'll be meeting all her friends from outside meetup). Rinse and repeat
/r/seduction23/04/15 02:38 PM
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Did you even read the title?
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:56 AM
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Well yes, that could entirely be possible. Most bullies have a very fragile psyche. But that's not the point of how this quote applies to pickup and self improvement. And no, yoga does not give you mind reading powers.
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:41 AM
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Yea, instead of punishing yourself for their negative response to you, understand that there is probably a struggle within that person. The point is not who's struggling with who, the point is to not be negative towards yourself. And you become negative towards yourself when you're too attached to the outcome of an interaction. and that interaction doesn't meet your expectations.
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:26 AM
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Read my comment above
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:10 AM
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Well ok but I don't like risking any chance of negative response from a girl I very likely will have to see again. I'll take that chance anywhere else (bar, street, store, etc). My whole point is that cold approaching when you may have to see the girl again isn't the best idea. It may work, but I don't consider the small chance of success worth it.
/r/seduction22/04/15 02:10 AM
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Exactly the point. Please reread my comment lol
/r/seduction22/04/15 01:12 AM
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One of the fundamental ideas behind building strong inner game is to follow a mentality where you are detached from the outcome of an event or interaction. The outcome, whether positive or negative, should have no impact on your own values/beliefs/character/confidence etc. This takes time to develop, but is the foundation for solid inner game and solid unshakable confidence. If you meet a person who turns your cold approach down, instead of beating yourself up, look at where you can improve. And…
/r/seduction21/04/15 06:06 PM
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yes. The glossary/FAQ's on the sidebar go over some of the terminology as well
/r/seduction21/04/15 06:03 AM
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I highly recommend it, not just for the health benefits but also... you get to meet a room full of physically fit girls in yoga pants who have the money to blow on yoga lessons, therefore are probably employed and well off. The first time I went with a girl friend. She's been telling me about it and I wanted to try it myself for health and social reasons. It's hot yoga btw, so it's more like a 90 minute cardio session. The first person I met at yoga was during a beginner's class. We got in group…
/r/seduction21/04/15 05:43 AM
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Yes but if the girl is working out, she's not expecting to be socializing. That's why if you cold approach at a mall/bookstore/street the disruption of her state is much less jarring. The same concept at a club. Since she's expecting to socialize and be hit on, approaching her almost doesn't interrupt her state at all. So something like the gym, especially if she's clearly working out intensely, will cause the most noticeable break of state, and her natural reaction would be defensive. Ofc if sh…
/r/seduction21/04/15 02:49 AM
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Yea don't be an idiot. Scope out your prey before you pounce.
/r/seduction21/04/15 02:43 AM
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Thanks mate! Most people think there's some magical lines or way to pick up girls at a gym or yoga, which I recently started doing. There isn't and anything that may work isn't always going to work. Standard social circle game and being a good solid well rounded social guy will get you much further than something gimmicky in a situation like the gym. The same applies to the workplace, school, other activities where you're part of a group. For example, it's a lot more effective at work to get a g…
/r/seduction21/04/15 02:42 AM
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Most women don't like being cold approached at the gym. They don't feel attractive, and are usually intently working out. Cold approaching forces them out of state and the natural response is defensive.
/r/seduction20/04/15 10:55 PM
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Well done! Only potential downside, depending on how receptive she was (giggle, embarrassed smile, etc or defensive "back off I have a boyfriend), is that you'd have to see her again at the gym. But mad props for the approach! Your elevated testosterone levels doing their job. I typically prefer to not cold approach at the gym. Talk to the employees, talk to the regular gym goers. Build up rapport with everyone. And if you see a girl you like, it's natural to chat her up because you're a social …
/r/seduction20/04/15 10:52 PM
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Well done sir! Very clever Now do this but be ugly :p No but really, as great as it is to read a success story like this, major disclaimer: YOUR RESULTS WILL VARY
/r/seduction27/11/14 07:23 PM
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I may also have this issue. I don't really actively use OKC and just kept the profile from before my last relationship. After looking at your profile, I now feel like I have way too much cluttered info on it. Wondering if I should also try and trim it down
/r/seduction06/11/14 12:46 AM
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Asian men really only have issues in Caucasian-dominant areas. American stereotypes of Asians emasculate Asian men. Small penis, short, scrawny, does your nails, cooks, nerdy, etc. Some of these are true due to cultural differences. What is seen as normal in Asia is seen as feminine or weak in the US. I'm Asian, live in a very white neighborhood/area, and trust me, no matter what people say about American's not being racist, it's fucking false. With that said, I've never seriously dated an Asian…
/r/seduction30/08/14 12:18 AM
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I think this post is relevant to most of the male population of Reddit... and the internet. If not completely, at least in some small way everyone sees a bit of themselves in this post.
/r/seduction06/08/14 02:42 PM
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Women don't want to wait for a guy to show interest first. They wish they could just walk around and tell guys they're interested, but they can't. Here's why they don't: Fear of rejection. Everyone has that fear, but since most of a woman's value is based on her appearance and social value, anything that may jeopardize that, especially in front of her friends/social group, is extremely scary to the point that she'll just not risk it. Especially when most guys will do all the hard work anyway. Fe…
/r/seduction03/08/14 08:02 PM
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Unless you live in a big city. For everyone who doesn't, sadly in the USA and even Canada, you will be at a severe disadvantage if you are not physically attractive or white/black. I tried tinder for a while last year. I'm Asian, average looks, physically fit, dress well (at least according to every girl I've been involved with and my female friends), decent pictures, and got 1 match over the course of a few months. Wasn't expecting anything coming into Tinder, but eventually decided it's a wast…
/r/seduction01/05/14 05:25 PM
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Your time is valuable. If they're flaky, they're not interested/you didn't grasp their interest enough. You should not waste your time if nothing will come out it. But don't do it by verbally ending it. It makes you sound bitter and like a sore looser. This negative image will carry to all her friends when she tells them what you said, effectively closing even more doors, especially in a school setting with overlapping social circles. You can't win every girl, but if you loose, don't show weakne…
/r/seduction06/12/13 05:12 AM
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It depends on the vibe and your sense of humor. If the tone of your conversation and your humor has a sense of sarcasm, this line works the same as "You look gorgeous today" If she enjoys your type of humor (girls who are strictly against semi-sarcastic harmless humor are usually too stiff for my taste for example), she'll react much better to this line than the derpy "I think you're pretty but I'm a low value AFC so I'm showering you with compliments"
/r/seduction02/12/13 04:32 PM
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Congrats! Like you said, don't fuck it up. Don't be needy Keep texting to logistics only (flirt, but no comfort building. You risk loosing attraction very fast) Pick the date Work out logistics of date. Make sure to do more than one thing Don't stress results of the date. Be UNATTACHED from the outcome. If nothing happens, nothing happens. The more you stress an end result, the less likely it'll happen. Have fun. This is more important than all 5 steps combined
/r/seduction02/12/13 04:20 PM
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Why are you "gaming" girls on Facebook??
/r/seduction02/12/13 04:15 PM
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Yea I personally wouldn't try to force physical escalation like this. Feels way too artificial
/r/seduction30/11/13 11:37 PM
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lol... if that's the playful tone you've set up with your interaction with her, then this will work. If you are confident and having fun, you can get away with more than you think
/r/seduction30/11/13 07:26 PM
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Museum: Watch for hard IOI's see hard IOI's dare her to do something crazy at the museum. For example, lead the game by touching something you're not supposed to touch, etc. Make it fun. When you notice the peak of the emotional escalation (for examples watch the body language of girls about to be first-kissed in almost every chick), say "What's the craziest thing you've ever done in a museum?" Perform step 4 in a confident and playful tone with pauses to look at her lips as you talk. She says "…
/r/seduction30/11/13 07:00 PM
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I guess I'm just not bitter
/r/seduction20/10/13 06:41 PM
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I think you may be focusing your attention on one demographic. The things we learn pertain mostly to the "attractive" girl. If you want to stereotype, most attractive girls exhibit these flaws. And if they don't sooner or later they will pick them up from her friends/outside influence. This is where just purely learning how to pick up a girl isn't enough. Take a step back, and look at the big picture. Decide what kind of girl you want to spend your time with. Design your perfect realistic girl, …
/r/seduction20/10/13 04:49 AM
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Lol at the kitten analogy. Can't think of any movies off the top of my head but I know for sure shows like Friends, HIMYM, and other shows like Grey's Anatomy and such do this all the time.
/r/seduction27/09/13 02:56 AM
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More than one actually. But most of them are girls I wasn't particularly interested in dating/hooking up with. Basically when you friend zone a girl, you actually become more attractive to her. You're not needy. You're not begging her to spend time with you. Sometimes the more you pull away they more they chase. Also, I love using this line on girls I've fzed: "I'm so happy that you're my friend. What would I do without you?" followed by a really intense look that mirrors the look you give a gir…
/r/seduction27/09/13 12:42 AM
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If you get friend zoned it's really hard to change that status. But if you give someone else that status, it's easier to change it later. It's easier to get a girl to fall for you after you friend zone her than it is to get her to fall for you after she friend zones you.
/r/seduction26/09/13 10:35 PM
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I agree with this post. Some of my closest friends are HB8,9,10's that I bring out with me when I go somewhere. Many of them are dating my guy friends that I helped set up. Just because they're hot doesn't mean I have to date them. And having them around raises my overall value to other girls. It's never a bad idea to have girls in your life. A guy surrounded by hot girls at a party exudes more value than any amount of DHVing you can do. And don't worry. Other girls can tell if you're gay or not…
/r/seduction26/09/13 08:19 PM
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Meetup.com is a great way to meet a lot of new people. Every city (and town even) pretty much as a token fun loving 20 something group. Join that and go for happy hour, go for the weekend get-together doing whatever's going on. Usually revolves around happy hour and concerts and other events. I've met quite a few friends through this. Invest time into your relationships, and your friends become good friends, and good friends become best friends.
/r/seduction11/08/13 01:29 AM
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Don't ask questions. Make statements. Instead of asking a girl where she works, say "you seem pretty___, you must work as a__. Lightly tease her and she'll respond better than getting interviewed. Also, and most importantly, you're making statements and not asking questions. Low value men ask questions. High value men make statements and laugh about it when they're wrong (or in this case, tease the girl because your assumption is purposely silly) Start doing this in your conversations and you'll…
/r/seduction24/06/13 02:43 PM
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Ah that makes sense. I figured this was a chill day game approach. You'll see more luck with something like this in a laid back environment where everyone's just having fun. I would avoid openers that telegraph this much interest for bar game unless you've built plenty of rapport with everyone or have DHVed yourself enough to the whole room.
/r/seduction20/05/13 06:00 AM
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Well said. Bitch shields are a woman's natural filter to weed out spineless men. Sadly, in groups it becomes a game of who can reject more guys to make themselves look good. Don't use this opener unless you've built some rapport with her friends
/r/seduction20/05/13 05:55 AM
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Haha I see what you did there you sly devil you! Where did you use this opener? (bar, book store, street, etc) and where you from? I like this opener, and it'll definitely get you a fun conversation afterwards. But at the same time, I feel like it would only work on the easy going type of girls. Avoid girls with bitch shields raised for this one.
/r/seduction19/05/13 10:12 PM
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I love this as a very subtle way to open just about any public situation. Provided she doesn't seem like someone who'd actually steal your shit. Use this at coffee shops all the time.
/r/seduction24/04/13 10:19 PM
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There is no difference. Pickup comes before she becomes your girlfriend, and after the honeymoon phase is over. So many guys think ok, I got the girl, I can go back to video games, beer, and bumming around. You worked hard to pickup the girl, get her attracted, and started the relationship. Pickup follows through during key moments of any relationship to keep it healthy and fun. The goal to learn pickup should be to become a better and more desirable man. Everything else follows naturally.
/r/seduction08/12/12 11:19 PM
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Learn how to be an alpha male. Learn to be able to lead groups of people, how to have a commanding presence, etc. Learn inner game. Don't get too crazy with some of the more structured pickup material. Plus most of that won't work on high school girls anyway. Wish I learned this shit when I was 15. I started at 18 so it wasn't too late
/r/seduction08/12/12 08:04 PM
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This is what happens when what was once a small close knit community of people gets recognition. More and more people join, diluting the level of expertise in the game (specific tactics/strategies/routines), and all you end up with is a variation of the typical "just be your self and talk to her, bro" pep talk. I remember the days of MASF (the older crowd of puas will know what I'm talking about). The orginal newsgroups and forums that actual pick up artists congregated to swap ideas and theory …
/r/seduction19/09/12 05:51 AM
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Doubt this will get bumped all they way for you to actually read it, but here's what negging/neg theory really is: Negging is used for 2 purposes: False Disqualifier: The false disqualifier removes the guy as a potential suitor, therefore making him less threatening. Basically it's a false friendzone. It helps girls lower their bitch shields. Example: "It's too bad I'm gay, or else I'm so your type." Lower the Ego (not self esteem) of the really hot girls: The idea behind this is a girl that's 9…
/r/seduction18/08/12 03:28 PM
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If I txt like this to other women, you see no chance of success. So you're saying that these txts work with this girl because I built enough attraction with her therefore I can say whatever I want and still do fine. I don't think you're wrong. I like to build some attraction before I pull a number. It frames the conversation that follows before we even have it. If I didn't build any attraction with the girl, I would have to awkwardly flirt with her over txt, which is easier to mess up. I like to…
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:55 PM
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Well if I didn't build enough attraction, I definitely don't want to open with generic afc crap like "hey whats up?" cuz that's an instant blowout. I ended the 5 min conversation with some rapport building comfort and commonalities, but I attracted her at the beginning. Either way, I didn't feel like I build enough comfort to be ok with "hey, what's up?" we only had a 5 min conversation. Don't really see what you have a problem with. First it's "she's obviously interested so you could say whatev…
/r/seduction12/08/12 05:21 PM
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Here's Cajun's breakdown of his pickups on this episode: http://www.theattractionforums.com/general-discussion/58691-i-keys-vip-pickup-show-last-night.html
/r/seduction11/08/12 04:19 AM
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You can't fuck with Michael Caine. He's fucking Alfred! Alfie went from playboy pimp to Batman's badass butler, all in one lifetime. Can't top that
/r/seduction09/08/12 03:23 PM
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Upvoted! Some very good body language info and general logistics with 1 on 1 interactions Alfie's one of my favorite chick flicks to learn/brush up on pickup. Some of the subtle body language in that movie are spot on
/r/seduction06/08/12 08:36 PM
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loll i'm loving the amount of racism in the comments. write down a list of negative stereotypes about asian americans: nerdy shy small penis small build funny accent There's probably a few more but I'll tackle these for now. So basically, asians are unattractive as fuck to American chicks (even Asian american chicks lolll) Now that you have a list, go through each and every one and figure out how to not fall into the negative stereotype. nerdy: This one is easy. Spend more time hanging out with …
/r/seduction03/08/12 04:26 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree with this! About a year ago, I was going through an emotional breakdown. I was unhappy with my life, and sought to fill the void with getting better as PUA. That didn't help. A best friend helped me realize that women don't make me happy. They help, but what I do with my life ultimately will make me happy. So I rekindled some of my interests and hobbies. I now work as a DJ, play guitar at open mic's all over town, host a radio show, volunteer for different organizations, and…
/r/seduction28/07/12 03:59 PM
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You're giving her a choice. Does she have a choice? If you don't want her to have a choice, don't give her a choice. Grow some balls, and say, "I would like you to join me for dinner this weekend." If you are like me and like to anticipate every response and block every obstacle, feel out when she has free time coming up. You can find out in conversation and when you know she's free this weekend, tell her to join you.
/r/seduction25/07/12 02:06 AM
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Haha straight up bro. I'm in undergrad in civil engineering. I do get to meet a lot of women who's doing Environmental Engineering and our departments have some of the same classes, but they're not really my type. I don't rely on my classes or workplace to meet women. Why would you ever do that? Not a single close friend/girlfriend/anyone I spend a lot of time with is in the same major as me/my field of work. Just because you're an engineer doesn't mean you have to deal with the negative stereot…
/r/seduction25/07/12 02:03 AM
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Not all rom coms are made equal. Some examples of great displays of alpha male roles: -Alfie -What Women Want -She's just not that into you -Crazy Stupid Love -Wedding Crashers -Hitch Don't watch rom coms to learn how to pick up women, especially not from those comedies where the nice guy gets the girl bullshit. Watch rom coms to learn how to be a real man by watching alpha male men and how they act/talk around women
/r/seduction25/07/12 01:59 AM
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College game is not about structured lines. Don't try to memorize openers. It doesn't work. My opener is "Hi, my name is ihaveabu! Who are you?" Introduce yourself like a normal person. There's no need to neg, no need to DHV, none of that structured game stuff in college. College is more about social game than direct game. Practice your social circle game, be friends with everyone. Having more friends elevates your social status, and that's what's going to get you laid.
/r/seduction25/07/12 01:43 AM
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I recently had your exact problem. I prefer the slightly shy intelligent and quirky girls. I dated one for about a month, and I really really started to intimidate her. I attribute it all to my self-improvement and training over the years. We had an amazing first date, and she just got more and more shy each one thereafter. Like kobenhavn said, DLV yourself. Humanize yourself to her level. She will feel pushed away the more out of her league you seem.
/r/seduction22/07/12 11:09 PM
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Gotta love me some NLP with my morning cup of joe
/r/seduction07/06/12 04:32 PM
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This is how I always pull numbers. Hand them my phone. One downside is I sometimes forget that I never txted them, so the next time I see them, they're like wtf lol
/r/seduction23/05/12 05:10 AM
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straight up seduction/pick up as a term is grandfathered from the older "do this, then this, then get laid" structured game (ross jefferys, mystery, etc). seduction/pick up today is more like "self improvement + social intelligence"
/r/seduction22/05/12 06:39 PM
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just say whatever socially acceptable thing comes to mind and don't expect a high success rate. the more you expect out of a day game open, the more anxiety you get before you open. just say hi, and expect nothing in return.
/r/seduction16/03/12 05:24 AM
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SIDEBAR THIS BITCH!
/r/seduction15/01/12 02:51 PM
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Social circle game: you're winning it. Social circle game = farming whereas cold approach game = hunting
/r/seduction05/01/12 04:23 PM
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Like a motherfucking boss!! Perfect textbook example of how to get out of the friend zone. Well done
/r/seduction02/01/12 03:01 PM
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Your fingers and your tongue feel better for her than your penis.
/r/seduction28/11/11 06:07 AM
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I strongly agree with this statement. Building attraction over texting is very forced and unnatural. Negging and other staples of flirting comes across as forced, even if you dot your txts with ;-p's get them ioi's before the # close. plus, how the hell would u # close w/o getting at least some ioi's?
/r/seduction03/11/11 03:57 PM
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Don't u watch any chick flicks? Bigass IOI
/r/seduction15/10/11 09:51 PM
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In your situation, it's time to find something u truly excel in that is socially acceptable. For example, pick up an instrument, learn something artististic, get a 6 pack, dress really well. Don't just be ok at everything. Find a few things you are proud to be really good at. And if there's nothing, start learning something.
/r/seduction15/10/11 09:47 PM
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One of the biggest signs of interest is this above. It drives me crazy. Catch my eye contact, look down, then look at me again and smile. *eeeee
/r/seduction08/10/11 04:47 PM
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The essence of pickup right here! Congrats man! We're all very proud of you
/r/seduction08/10/11 04:45 PM
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Stop talking to people that know you are into physics. Stop bringing up physics in conversation. In most cases just talk about w/e people are already talking about...
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:14 PM
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TOO FUCKING ATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME!!!! Stop being a little bitch and stop caring. The less you care, the more fun you will have. If you didn't care about the outcome, there would be no AA, no knot in your gut feeling, and you would just talk to anyone like it's natural. We've all been there, but one of the easiest ways to overcome AA is to just say fuck, i don't care. Don't be invested in the outcome of a social interaction. The more invested you are, the less fun the interaction becomes
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:12 PM
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i would respond by singing taio cruz. no seriously i would. then if she's persistent i'd leave her alone. women who whine about past experiences aren't actually whining about it. they want to meet a nice guy and aren't 100% opposed to another relationship. whining about it just makes them feel better, even though what they say they want isn't what they actually want. if she's really really persistent, and this is the only thing stopping you from dating the girl, and you and her click and all tha…
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:08 PM
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DO NOT BE ATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME!! this is one of the most important hurdles a man has to get over when changing into an alpha. The more attached to the outcome, the more worried you are and the more emotionally invested you become in getting to the outcome. The more invested you are, the less fun the whole experience is. Take this, and apply to any and all social situations
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:32 PM
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We need more hidden cam videos. Most seduction instructional videos are sold by the instructors so putting them here wouldn't work To be fair I think most hidden cams are sold too
/r/seduction02/10/11 09:07 PM
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it's always funny to see a huge amount of college related pickup questions like "how to do I talk to this girl in my class" crap right as school starts again. too many new kids are discovering seduction and are too lazy to do their homework.
/r/seduction02/10/11 04:55 PM
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Your balls are now slightly larger than they used to be. ;p
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:57 PM
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puny eldar are squishy Warboss eat puny grav tanks for breakfast
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:36 PM
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girls getting involved in breakdancing are like girls getting involved in street races. they don't know anything about cars, but they're into ricers ;p
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:35 PM
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haha i guess it depends on what class. if it's a communications class, i'm up for it. most of the girls i met in engineering and other more technical classes are way too uptight.
/r/seduction20/09/11 07:33 PM
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That's cuz you've been playing Warhammer. WARHAMMER 40K IS WHERE IT'S AT! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! bitches love da boyz.
/r/seduction20/09/11 06:30 PM
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Any kind of fun and engaging dance class is perfect. Salsa, swing, anything that girls of your age group would go to. Also cooking classes, yoga, and anything else you can imagine girls your age doing. Watch the movie Yes Man. Then do that for a few weeks. See what happens ;p
/r/seduction20/09/11 06:29 PM
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Seduction isn't a game. It's a lifestyle change. You're changing from the introverted anti-social nerd to the social and fun alpha. Social and fun requires you to talk to everyone, to be fun and to enjoy the company of everyone you're with. That doesn't mean you avoid certain people just because you're not attracted to them. I'm coaching a friend of mine right now, and I started out drilling this into his head. Seduction is a lifestyle change, and not a set of structured steps to some specific e…
/r/seduction20/09/11 06:28 PM
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I was thinking about it for a few minutes. I'd open with: Me: "You have beautiful hair!" Her: "Huh? What?" Me: "Your hair was on my screen, and it was glowing. ;-p" Her: "Oh! Haha I'm sorry" Me: "No big deal. I needed someone to distract me from this -class/seminar or w/e- anyway. Whats your name?" *proceed with rapport building and so on I was thinking of more clever openers but honestly anything that doesn't immediately say "bitch, your hair is on my computer" will make the opener too confusin…
/r/seduction20/09/11 06:23 PM
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Let them fight over you? Duh ;p Your social status will rise like a bamf
/r/seduction17/09/11 10:26 PM
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the closest you can get to "seduction techniques" in college is day game. Read up on day game things. Most of them involve direct or situational openers: Direct: some variation of "This is forward, but I think you're really cute! etc etc blah blah we should hang out sometime" Situation Opener: "What time is it? Oh yea, sweet I have 20 mins til my next class. What you up to?" or "Where is -some place- hall? " be fun and flirty. Real college game is social circle game. If your campus is small and …
/r/seduction17/09/11 10:24 PM
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Listen to him!! The girl breaking eye contact first is not a sign of anything negative. In fact breaking and then re-establishing eye contact is usually an ioi
/r/seduction15/09/11 07:46 PM
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yea... don't fucking apologize for your cockiness!! Flip it on her! HB9: "are you always this cocky?" you: "Do you always judge people when you first meet them?" MAKE SURE TO SAY IT WITH A FUCKING SMIRK so she knows you're just messing around. Or my personal style is to say it 100% deadpan, then smile and kino. Follow it with a "haha, just messing with you" add in a hip bump for some nice kino. or if your frame isn't congruent with this kind game, try something less badass: you: "... I had to fi…
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:20 PM
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smarter girls are so much easier to game. so much more you can talk about, so much more you can have in common instead of trying to form connections out of thin air. game isn't a bag of tricks, pull one out and she'll love you. it's a lifestyle change.
/r/seduction15/09/11 05:05 PM
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congrats!! doesn't it just feel fucking exhilarating? Next up: Maintain eye contact Speak slower Continue the conversation one extra sentence at a time Take baby steps. Follow what you just said with anything. example: she's happy cuz u like her style -> "well, i'm glad i was able to make ur day!"
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:24 PM
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http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-cat-missed-you1.jpg Depends on ur style of humor I guess.
/r/seduction14/09/11 05:41 AM
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masf's archives have some amazing fr's. But its true it's really dated. I looked at some stuff on there 6 years ago. A lot has changed since then. Love systems forum is decent. You get discussions on other types of seduction as well (day game, social circle, etc)
/r/seduction14/09/11 05:32 AM
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Oh, and btw, TOTALLY STEALING THIS nothing like introducing some nice sexual tension with a cute and innocent typo ;p
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:25 PM
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Lolllll high five!! Incorporate some teasing into ur conversation with her. Get her to laugh, all that shit. Honestly her response is pretty inviting. U could turn it into a game the next time u see her. Example: "so, about this seducing thing... I'll start by buying u some flowers! Followed by some slow dancing in the park and a picnic at sunset". If she laughs and plays along, ur IN!!
/r/seduction13/09/11 04:16 AM
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don't chase her. casually invite her to join you in events where you will be the definite alpha (your birthday party is a blatant example). anything where you know everyone that's going to be there. an event where when you walk in, you are talking to everyone and greeting everyone and smiling and having fun. even let the reaction from the rest of the people to you be the thing that changes her mind. she'll become attracted to you just purely based on your social status in that particular event. …
/r/seduction07/09/11 02:13 AM
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firmly trying to ask her why she's asking that makes you loose the shit test. honestly anything else would've worked better. even if you just answered honestly. examples: "she seems to be aight. I don't know her that well though. why, do you have a crush on her?" "she is so mean! she looked at me like 20 times, and didn't come over to talk to me. what a tease! *say it playfully so it's obvious you're kidding" "well, i'm talking to you right now, aren't i?" also, throaway's advice fits too. examp…
/r/seduction06/09/11 07:01 PM
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the semester has started. and the game has begun! especially for freshman or transfers with a clean slate. time to build up those social circles and farm them!
/r/seduction02/09/11 11:56 PM
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good for you! Your future husband is lucky to have a girl who understands that a relationship is a 2 person job.
/r/seduction22/08/11 04:27 AM
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A true alpha does not jump through hoops he tears them apart with his awesomeness. The "model" alpha male doesnt deal with this crap. Women have to prove themselves worthy to even take up his time. Ofc this kind of alpha also doesn't do LTR's
/r/seduction22/08/11 04:00 AM
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As much as I agree with you, I had my last long term relationship end because I wasn't able to make her happy. She blames me for not being fun anymore, when she's the one who works 80 hr weeks and has no time to spend with me. *sigh
/r/seduction22/08/11 03:56 AM
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dude you're in college. most girls haven't developed a bitch shield yet. there are no openers, no routines. "hey, what's you name?" "Oh nice to meet you! I'm ihaveabu! What u majoring in?" "Oh, you don't know yet? Well, here's a very easy way to figure that out. What have you always wanted to be when you were little? And don't say princess." "-Proceed to tease her and make her laugh-" see what i just did there? ;p --Hint: I just combined the most common college "opener" with a classic Mystery li…
/r/seduction20/08/11 06:40 PM
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looks are not men's only positive trait. we get judged on our ability to provide, our ability to lead, etc. we get judged on survival capability. women get judged on fertility. historically, the only way to tell fertility of a woman is by her looks (hair, facial symmetry, breast size, hip ratios, etc). when a girl says look's don't matter. it's not entirely true or false. she's programmed to care less about looks if the man can provide for her and her offspring. with that said, every girl will p…
/r/seduction17/08/11 09:18 PM
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go out, have fun. meet a lot of people, hang out with them. be fun and social. as long as you do the above... you'll get laid anywhere
/r/seduction14/08/11 10:42 PM
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when you're taking the number down, take a picture with her (not of her, key is with her, even further solidifying w/e you had going) with your phone. add that pictures to your contacts next to her name/number. so when you txt/call her and see her again, u know who it is...
/r/seduction04/08/11 03:42 PM
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open with something fun "shhh. you're not supposed to talk in elevators. it ruins the awkward silence!" she giggles "*smile. What's your name? I'm ihaveabu on the 3rd floor." "I'm ihaveabu's new lady friend. nice to meet you!" "nice to meet you! you know, if you're just a floor above/below me, maybe you're the one that's been -insert funny thing people do in apartments (dancing, etc)-" "haha, no!" and the rest u can play with.
/r/seduction04/08/11 03:40 PM
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You're reading a book, then posting on reddit... That's what's wrong. *HINT -> GO OUT AND TRY SOME STUFF!
/r/seduction03/08/11 03:19 AM
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i used to wear medium sized chains (knot chain, different king of links). nothing too flashy but still clearly noticable. as fas as first impressions go, it definitely helped to shape a more fun and positive image of me. ofc, it all depends on the people you are interacting with. a group of dorky guys are more likely to be intimadated by your appearance than to give you any kind of positive reaction (i know from first hand experience). whereas the partying crowd immediately sees you as a fun per…
/r/seduction30/07/11 07:50 PM
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lol yep edited
/r/seduction20/07/11 03:14 AM
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From my years involved in the seduction community, i've narrowed down the following rules to not get friend zoned: Sexualize your interactions with the girl (kino, throw in a sexual vibe to things you say, etc) Don't be a pussy (don't do nice things for her unless she does something nice for you back, never let her have her way if you can't have yours, etc. You are a man, not a plaything.) Be around more than one woman and be attractive to them (social proof is one of the best ways to get out of…
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:58 PM
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Find a new wing... The fact that your posting about this issue means you're letting his success affect your frame.
/r/seduction19/07/11 07:12 AM
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Maybe you can't handle the truth!! But more seriously, as hilarious as the Yellow Fever video is, there's a very simple reason why it happens. Asians are one of the later ethnic groups to immigrate en-mass to the western countries. Give it another 50 years and the cultural differences will be less apparent. My ex was white. She was also extremely receptive to the cultural differences. She ended up taking Chinese lessons to be able to speak to my parents/family. I was surprised she was so eager t…
/r/seduction19/07/11 06:59 AM
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Haha it's true and you know it.
/r/seduction19/07/11 06:48 AM
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Lolll there you go even better. English/Aussie accents give you a huge advantage around here. Every Asian American is taught to study and do well. Studying usually leads to bad social skills. Once you prioritize the aspects of your life, that same brain you use to do math can be used to learn social conventions, inner confidence and everything else. Just because your parents have never heard of the concept of recreational sex and don't see dating as an important part of your life doesn't mean yo…
/r/seduction19/07/11 06:33 AM
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I can tell you firsthand that it's not as bad as the Internet makes it seem. Learn social conventions, don't talk with a heavy accent, and the rest is no different than gaming women from anywhere else in the world. A woman who is racist and strictly refuses to date outside her race is probably not worth your time anyway
/r/seduction19/07/11 06:19 AM
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if anyone feels discouraged by these idiots, remember this: they're a bunch of redditors who are posting about their disapproval/jealousy of pick up artists on the internet, then going back to their crappy lives. you are the pickup artist posting on reddit, and then hooking up with HB's at a party you're going to later tonight. haters will always hate.
/r/seduction19/07/11 06:08 AM
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you can check out Conquer Your Campus. Decent book written to tailor seduction principles to college environments. basically college game = social circle game. since you have the possibility of running into each of your targets again later on, most seduction techniques and openers don't work and come across as silly/overblown
/r/seduction12/07/11 03:27 PM
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hmm makes you wonder... how to work out logistics so you always end up at her place instead of yours... hmmm anyone have any tips?
/r/seduction15/06/11 03:47 AM
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yea turns out he is... lolll
/r/seduction14/06/11 07:00 PM
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haha my friend was there for this covention/in field. he emailed me this exact same advice. how'd it go? he hasn't gotten back to me yet lol
/r/seduction11/06/11 02:09 PM
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i was using idea romantic bond as a name of a type of relationship that doesn't exist... read the rest of the thread...
/r/seduction18/05/11 02:51 AM
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hahah just noticed that. oops well then i guess my statement is still relevant... just in the wrong place ;p
/r/seduction18/05/11 02:49 AM
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of course you do. saying i'm right is equivalent to saying all women are slutty.... which, by the way, is not what i'm trying to say. there is nothing wrong with women wanting to display sex appeal (clothing, makeup, dancing, pilates, etc). It's just silly when they believe/pretend it's for 100% innocent purposes.
/r/seduction14/05/11 04:11 PM
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upvoted for us agreeing with each other! High five!!
/r/seduction14/05/11 03:47 AM
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i absolutely agree with you. feeling the need to get that kind of attention doesn't necessarily reflect on teh quality of the relationship. but the reason why i say a perfect relationship is because there is no such thing. if you got all the attention you could ever want or need, you wouldn't feel the urge to get it elsewhere. but perfect relationships don't exist. but i think you're missing the point of my post. it's not that dancing means she's in a bad relationship. my point is that women don…
/r/seduction14/05/11 02:58 AM
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so sad... but so true. *fingers crossed i can one day find a girl who has proper taste in music. a woman who can appreciate frank is soo hard to find. :-( NO! LADY GAGA IS NOT MUSIC. Can't believe that I've actually had girls try to rationalize to me that it is.
/r/seduction14/05/11 02:25 AM
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this is def the exception. i have a good friend of mine who is very involved in swing dancing. that's different. she's dancing in a studio... learning the proper moves.... and not just jumping onto a dance floor, pretending to move her hips around, raising her glass and yelling "whooo i'm soo drunk!" ;p The best is when you catch her and she's drinking club soda. haha ohhh faking intoxication for social proof
/r/seduction14/05/11 02:16 AM
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funny quote from some redditor: "taking seduction advice from a woman is like taking parenting advice from a child" it's always fun to see women defend themselves against generalizations like this. no woman likes to think that this is the way things work. but i think i'm not alone in saying that sometimes socially-tuned men understand how women think better than they understand themselves. I could read my ex's mind before she even fully understands what she wants. and it was always hilarious whe…
/r/seduction14/05/11 01:29 AM
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haha that's a great one! noted
/r/seduction14/05/11 12:15 AM
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dancing = display of sex appeal. trust me coming from personal experience, women don't go dancing w/ random guys when their relationship is the ideal 100% perfect romantic bond. they don't feel the need to get that social reinforcement to their self esteem/confidence. so the next time you hear a girl say I just want to dance... no... she doesn't know what she wants.
/r/seduction14/05/11 12:10 AM
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dance lessons > some crappy pua lectures ;-p
/r/seduction11/05/11 02:44 PM
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agreed. just ignore the long term bf thing and just draw her attention to more fun things. build attraction by doing instead of talking. this i feel is very important in your case because talking makes you walk a very thin line between mate and friendzone. get her attracted to you by how alpha you are, how fun you are to be around. engage everyone at the bar. have a good fun time w/ everyone there. you won't even have to talk to her, and she'll be into you.
/r/seduction11/05/11 02:42 PM
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hahah i used to use lolcatz as a perfect opener. gets txt from friend. awwwwww "hey! come here, check this out!" "d'awwww" "blah blah blah"
/r/seduction11/05/11 02:02 PM
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This is why strict routine based systems have moved down a bit and inner game/confidence/humor/seduction principles have become the key to seduction. look into blueprint decoded and a few other great inner game material. the idea is that when ur in state, it doesn't matter what you say
/r/seduction20/04/11 02:33 PM
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well done. I think this will be very very useful for most new comers to PUA to read and understand
/r/seduction19/04/11 04:11 PM
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jeremy soul krauserpua youtube has a few nice day game examples with nice in field footage
/r/seduction13/04/11 02:12 PM
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lol congrats! do what you feel is right. there is no real "when to call her" rule. all depends on your situation. I'd throw her a random cute txt right after, and then call the following day or something along those lines. she wants you to call.
/r/seduction30/03/11 10:18 PM
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sadly i saw this movie w/ my ex. so when i watched it again after we split, i felt shitty. lol
/r/seduction22/03/11 05:34 PM
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which plays into the misconception that smart men are not sexy... smart men can learn how to become sexy. just like they learned everything else that gave them the status of "smart". Some smart men are resourceful, and resourceful men discover the pickup community.
/r/seduction17/03/11 03:34 AM
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American's think asian guys have small dicks. Or rather all asian men who live in America have small dicks? lol If you look at all the racial stereotypes, it's pretty sad. No one else gets attacked sexually. Black people are apparently lazy, but they all have massive schlongs. Indian guys may sound funny, but they have the book on weird ways to have sex.
/r/seduction16/03/11 07:43 PM
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mystery is the foundation of "structured" pickup in today's form. Every structure pickup system/routine is based off the principles that he developed in his structured system. David Wygant and the other "life coaches" teach a total transformation, inner game. but when it comes to directly pickup, mystery is the father of most of modern pua material. I still don't get y people don't like him. He intimidates a lot of people, even other PUA's. That might have something to do with it... I got involv…
/r/seduction16/03/11 07:09 PM
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I think the point of this post is to show an example of body language that demonstrates alpha. Whether or not that body language is trained or inherent is irrelevant. And this couldve been a conversation between 2 people at a coffee shop. Doesn't matter that he's an actor.
/r/seduction25/02/11 10:55 PM
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but if social trends are set by celebrities (fashion, social conventions, etc) what's wrong with using celebrities as models?
/r/seduction25/02/11 01:27 AM
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great vid. a lot of good talk show hosts are prime examples of epic conversation skills with a nice dash of humor
/r/seduction24/02/11 10:11 PM
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Lol I keep a full change of clothes (unpredictable mustard is unpredictable), condoms, lube, mints/breath spray, backup pair of glasses, hand sanitizer, wet wipes, nice collection of spontaneous slow dance music, 3 colognes I put in little travel spray bottles, a box of bling (3 chains) Prob some other stuff too. Will take a look later today.
/r/seduction19/02/11 03:59 PM
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Hmmm that makes sense. Thank you for clearing that up. I might have been comparing slightly different situations as well. I'm more accustomed to night game here in the US, and the atmosphere allows for less direct openers and approaches.
/r/seduction16/02/11 04:55 AM
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Question about day game I'm looking into transitioning into day game because my work schedule prevents a lot of night time activities. I'm here in the states, and I've noticed a lot of the day game coaches are European. In your experience and working with Jeremy, do you think there's a difference with day game with women in different regions/countries? My experience with the European women I've met is that most of them are generally more receptive to direct compliments and approaches whereas som…
/r/seduction16/02/11 04:34 AM
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maybe i'm a little old school when it comes to mystery method. doesn't work for everyone. but for the really tough hb10's that some people are to chickenshit to do anything about... well... see what mystery has to say about it. he might be old school (6 years ago), but he's still getting laid oh and btw, negging vs teasing: http://www.lovesystems.com/audio/vol-30-teasing-braddock-dahunter so..... yea.... u can stop now....
/r/seduction16/02/11 03:18 AM
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What he said negging is also the concept of lowering a woman's social value as a way of expressing your own social value. A hot girl is used to being worshiped. and because of that, when someone comes along that doesn't worship her, she becomes interested. a harsh neg is used this way. teasing and negging are different. you can tease a girl to just make her laugh. they like that. negging is more specific. A girl puts her hand on your arm, and you say "hey, hey, shit ain't for free you know." and…
/r/seduction15/02/11 11:32 PM
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Congratulations! Baby steps. Next time u solo a bar, you'll find it easier each and every time. There's all kinds of crutches u can use to speed up ur progress (peacocking, canned convo starters, dhv stories, etc) and there's the natural approach. The natural game approach takes much longer, but it's a very solid transformation. My advice, keep going to out. It'll get easier each time u do. Try it with friends too. Strength in numbers makes u feel very confident. Then later when u solo just reme…
/r/seduction15/02/11 04:06 PM
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I'd still recommend it over a bar. Not so much because u dont drink but because u can carry on a much more interesting conversation
/r/seduction15/02/11 03:58 PM
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I'd try the sing along with ur favorite song trick too. Put something energetic and happy on and sing. 2 songs later I'm usually in state.
/r/seduction15/02/11 03:54 PM
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yea don't pursue the piano bar thing too much further. drop it. try to remember what she was talking about (what school/job/whatever u guys were talking about) and ask her to join u for something else.
/r/seduction14/02/11 05:59 PM
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THIS IS WHY PUA AS A COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT SHOW ITSELF TO THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!!! Being in the spotlight, he is pressured to bash PU as much as he can. If he doesn't, he'll get pressure from all the feminists out there who think that negging is insulting, and not how men flirt with women to begin with... I have been involved in the pickup community for 6 years, and every time something shows up on any form of media, more negative attention gets drawn to the community. If you really believe in …
/r/seduction10/02/11 12:47 AM
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oh feminists..... lol I'm not so sure this is actually an interview... also, it always made me laugh how everything a woman does (makeup, dressing, shopping, fashion, comparing themselves to their friends, competition against their friends over looks, etc) was ultimately done to make themselves appeal to men. But when you point that out, they get angry at you cuz it violates their beliefs in w/e feminism blah blah blah. but it's the truth. women dress up so that men can like they way they look. …
/r/seduction10/02/11 12:32 AM
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i guess u get points for having balls... but tapping on the shoulder = fail. instant social value drop. you should not seem like you're trying to get her attention. ever
/r/seduction05/02/11 01:30 AM
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every single chick flick every made
/r/seduction05/02/11 01:00 AM
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lol was just thinking that as i read this. practice infront of a mirror. and watch some movies of good looking men smile (brad pit, clooney, james bond, etc)
/r/seduction14/01/11 02:18 AM
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all in one go is hard with this kind of situation. get her name the first time. second time say hello again. third time snag onto a conversation topic and don't let go till u get her to laugh. 4th time, close. also here's a vid on speedy number closes. granted it's in uk, and imo european women are less snotty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjLI2ejG5qY
/r/seduction29/12/10 10:45 PM
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u need to talk about her. u'll be at teh drug store again. the 2nd time will feel more natural. if ur not up for picking up in 1 go, then go more than once. it'll get more comfortable each time. "hello again!" how are u, blah blah. find a conversation topic to snag onto. and don't let go of it till u get her to laugh
/r/seduction29/12/10 10:42 PM
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haha nice. a good crutch for new pua's to practice fcloses and bounces. very nice! if she's like y'd u take me here? it's so crappy, say "i heard they had good -insert name of drink ur drinking-. then continue with rest of the post. if the drink ur drinking is crappy, they say something else u heard was good
/r/seduction08/12/10 04:33 PM
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It relieves awkwardness, making u less invested in the approval of the group ur talking to since ur heading out anyway. It's also a good way to close a group cuz u have a reason to end re conversation when u want to end (like a number close: hey I gotta get bak to my friends, I'd love to talk to u again)
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:54 AM
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Go back again in a day or 2. Hey! Ur the rvb girl! She'll laugh and say yea blah blah Then say hey, when do u get off work? We should hang out. If the vibe isn't that playful, then say we should hang out sometime. Then number close
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:52 AM
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It's much easier to read some forums and seddit about this, then go an practice yourself
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:39 AM
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The 3rd one is quite good. Turn it back on her, and make fun of her for it.
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:37 AM
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no dinner. go do something together. take her with you when you go shopping. she'll think it's weird but if u make the experience fun, it could yield better results. take her to do random shit. go to walmart, go buy groceries, u go with her to do random shit. everything can be a date. follow what's his face from RSD. You take her wherever you want, and anything can be turned into a date if you want it to be
/r/seduction20/11/10 08:05 PM
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don't bring her. your ex will probably come over, and u'd have to introduce her. and it just gets ugly. does your new gf know u just broke up with your LTR? don't make her the rebound girl. and if u already did, don't tell her she is
/r/seduction20/11/10 08:03 PM
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natural game. a few years ago, canned openers were teh shit. now that pua's decided let's make ourselves public so we can get more money, everyone knows about pua. *fail
/r/seduction18/11/10 02:34 AM
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you should probably tell her at some point....
/r/seduction14/11/10 06:35 PM
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a guy who is a 4 could be a 6 to someone else, or a 2 to another girl. and when they're ovulating, you're a 9. lol a woman's judgment of a man based on a scale of 10 is less accurate than a man's judgment of a woman on the same scale. and most importantly, women don't look at looks as a deciding factor as much as men do. confidence rooted in you, career, humor, etc all have to do with it. if you think you're only a 4, you'll act like a 4 around women, and they'll see that you have no self worth.…
/r/seduction14/11/10 02:05 AM
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yes it does. but the nice thing the hottest girls are usually not wearing much. most have at least their arms exposed, some neck line, hands obviously, and in most cases, women will freeze their asses off just to be able to look good in tight jeans or a skirt, even when it's cold out. this should not be a problem you need to worry about
/r/seduction14/11/10 02:02 AM
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y not use her LJBF to your advantage? there's no real clear cut way to get out of a friend zone. all depends on your situation. what u could do is take your HB friend to a party. instant social proof. if you really want to be with her, have her with you a lot and that social proof will attract other women to you. then you friend will see your value, and fall for you. It also helps to tell her that stories about her crappy relationship are best meant for her girlfriends. pull away if u have to. b…
/r/seduction14/11/10 01:59 AM
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soo it's been 12 hours. have u gotten laid yet?
/r/seduction13/11/10 08:39 PM
1

one trick is to not have anything to sit on except for your bed. she'll automatically sit there, and u can sit next to her and start kinoing guitar is always nice (if u know how to play. if not, learn), i like the guy who said the corkboard with pics idea. a nice ipod dock or speaker system (prepare some good playlists, if ur too lazy try grooveshark). don't go overboard. make the room feel comfortable to be in. bring her in once, then take her out with you for something. when you bring her back…
/r/seduction10/11/10 03:39 PM
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use her sister as a last resort. if u get the chance, ask for her number. you can even come across as interested. you've bonded well enough that it shouldn't hurt you at all.
/r/seduction09/11/10 06:41 PM
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no. don't get her number from her sister/friends, and don't contact her on fb. ASK HER FOR HER NUMBER. BE A MAN. if you call her, and she's like who is this, and you're like i'm ylloj, and she'll go how did u get this number. you say oh, from you sister, and the first impression she gets will be "why did u just ask me"??
/r/seduction09/11/10 06:23 PM
1

being a mpua is a lifestyle. when you go out, you go out prepared for everyone to notice you. during the day, people notice you by how you're dressed. it's not so much overlooked as it is seldom discussed. fashion is not debatable. you learn how to dress, end of story.
/r/seduction09/11/10 05:56 PM
1

change your self image. flaunt your looks (or if you don't have looks, flaut more materialistic things like nice clothes and accessories). kino can be done by anyone. you don't have to look like mystery to pull it off. but since you're def not at that mental stage yet, use material things as a crutch for now
/r/seduction09/11/10 05:50 PM
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you'll be the library plenty more times in your life, and other social situations. grow a set of balls and walk up and say hi. anything will work. you're not seducing her in a library in front of your classmates. you're introducing yourself. say "hi! I'm bored from studying. I saw you, and wanted to talk to you." then ask about why she's stuck here on a wonderful -insert weekday- night, and talk bout w/e it's not hard. once your balls drop, this will come across extremely well.
/r/seduction09/11/10 05:25 PM
1

tell her a dhv story about how you go staulked by a girl you met at a party for weeks. it's not too surprising to women either. believe me, desperation is not just a guy thing. "you know, i had this happen to me a few months ago. met these two girls at my friend's -insert type- party, and we hung out at the party and whatnot. i decided she wasn't my type (DHV), went on with me life. She/they didn't get my number, and started calling my friend who hosted the party. Long story short, they staulked…
/r/seduction08/11/10 03:38 PM
3

do what you feel is right. listen to her. if he treated her badly, give her a hug and kiss on the forehead. if she's just complaining, say honey, this is meant more for your girlfriends than me, don't you think? honestly, you probably don't want to be the rebound guy. and i don't really think she slept at your place because she's attracted to you. she's looking for companionship. BE CAREFUL. if u support this kind of behavior, you'll fall soo deep into the friend zone you'll never crawl out. if …
/r/seduction08/11/10 03:22 PM
1

i'm saying it's better to do it on an off day since you can easily transition the coffee catch up get-together into a full on date without her realizing it. if you only take her out on coffee during a break, you are more pressured to close well with a second date. always close a first date with plans for a second date. doing that is harder when you only have one class period.
/r/seduction02/11/10 06:19 PM
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yea don't give stuff out. almost always a dlv (demonstration of lower value). don't give her any power yet. you haven't even started a relationship
/r/seduction02/11/10 06:17 PM
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we should catch up! how bout coffee sometime.. then u escalate during the coffee date to follow up with something afterwards. the trick is to plan a day where neither of u r busy (sat/sun), and say the idea ice skating gets brought up, then u take her ice skating after coffee. or something along those lines. start out with an innocent catchup date, then escalate to something more. this whole time, u don't need to let her know you are interested. she'll get the idea from your body language. she'l…
/r/seduction02/11/10 12:27 AM
1

well, i'd imagine u go in and out of class too. hard to introduce yourself if you never make an effort to come across her without her back towards you. if she's introverted, she's probably not going to need openers. just go with a genuine hi, my name's _______. I sit behind you. You don't talk much so I don't know if you ever noticed. Come across as the extrovert. She'll probably not give off ioi's right away being shy, but you can read her pretty easily later on.
/r/seduction01/11/10 02:38 PM
3

dancefloors are one of the worst places to pick up women. it's funny cuz dancing used to be an expression of fertility. now it's a place of bitch-shields and self-esteem building girl nights. a lot of women who go clubbing openly say they want to go dancing. they don't mind being hit on, but they don't think they're slutty so they put up their bitch shields. the guys who can smash their bitch shields will get some of their attention. this is probably why someone like mystery can pull it off so w…
/r/seduction01/11/10 02:34 PM
2

I would also recommend checking out the second season of the Pickup Artist (VH1). I know, everyone hates that show. It makes PUA's look like a bunch of idiots. But none the less, it's very hard to find good infield videos, let alone infield videos done professionally. the second season has some really good spot on kino escalation that I think would really give you a visual idea of what exactly you should be doing. reading about it will only tell you so much
/r/seduction20/10/10 04:47 PM
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yes. it's called natural game. not every type of game runs the same way as the mystery method. or being an assdouche there's nothing wrong with paying attention to a girl, but the idea is to never give her too much thereby lowering your social value in comparison to her. always be higher, or at the very least, same social value as your target/set. look into some natural game. canned material will only get you so far in a world where pua's have made themselves too openly known
/r/seduction18/10/10 07:36 PM
1

say "hey!", then just keep talking. don't stop. ask what's up? she'll say nm. u tell her something interesting that happened in ur day. if nothing happend, come up with something prior to meeting her. after a few dates this should stop being a problem
/r/seduction18/10/10 02:47 AM
2

asshole game does not really mean be an asshole. it means to take the good aspects of a douche (confidence, charisma, alpha male, etc), and then apply it as the first impression you give off. at least, that's the most effective way to do this so called "asshole" game. be an asshole, but only so that when you neg, the other person knows you're just messing around. if there's no laughter, you're being too much of an asshole
/r/seduction16/10/10 09:08 PM
1

lmao
/r/seduction16/10/10 09:03 PM
1

you know, domestic abuse is a very big problem nowadays. lol ;-p
/r/seduction14/10/10 07:02 PM
3

how did u ask? details... if you asked, as in "will you go out with me", she's not going to call you back. never ask for a date like a favor. she should be lucky to get that time with you. never ask for a date. say "hey, i'm going to go to "insert thing", come with me."
/r/seduction14/10/10 02:26 AM
1

if you're looking for a wife. a hb10 is probably going to divorce you for the next hot guy. ;-p
/r/seduction13/10/10 09:17 PM
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lol fucking bitch
/r/seduction13/10/10 07:33 PM
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wow! that is probably the best explanation of the ridiculous divorce rate in western society. i used to think it was the concept of if an American woman finds someone better, she'll leave the person she's with. but this makes more sense. holy shit and also, to those who are saying that he shouldn't be looking for submissiveness and whatnot: it's not that he's looking for submissiveness, willingness to cook/clean. it's that these are things that keep a marriage stable. Marriage is a balance of a …
/r/seduction13/10/10 06:52 PM
2

you shouldn't ask "would u like to go back to my place with me?" kino to the point where she's horny, possibly hornier than you. she'll drag u home to her place
/r/seduction13/10/10 02:47 PM
1

openers need to be more structured in night game. day game is simple. hey blah blah blah. night game openers need to drill through their bitch shields
/r/seduction10/10/10 10:04 PM
1

from what i've seen, symmetry. if you take a look at the pictures of men that are generally considered good looking (brad pitt, clooney, cruise, bloom, etc), they are all symmetrical. beyond that it's mainly up to personal preference of the woman. some like bigger eyes, some like smaller eyes, some like poofy cheeks, some like flat cheeks. but the main ingredient in all of this is symmetry
/r/seduction09/10/10 07:41 PM
1

Lol u sound like the concerned friend who thinks "just be yourself" is good advice this is exactly why pua should never make themselves public. it just gives these idiots something to fuel their prejudice. they feel like anyone who has to put effort into their dating life is a nerd, and should just stop putting effort in and let things naturally happen. but it's easy to agree that some people are naturally good with women, and some are just bad. what pua does is give these people a chance to use…
/r/seduction08/10/10 01:56 PM
1

no this is not a bad opportunity. when she comes with her friends (hopefully other women), just be calm, collected, alpha. make everyone have a good time. you're sure to pull out some conversation topics from the introductions to her friends. "so how do u guys know each other... etc" be the alpha in the group, no matter if it's guys or girls. u be the alpha by making sure everyone is having fun. you're talking about stuff, and everyone's just having a good time all around you. it's the perfect o…
/r/seduction07/10/10 05:47 PM
2

you should've grabbed some kind of contact method (email, number) and say you're not in your apt that much
/r/seduction07/10/10 04:18 PM
1

try smiling at them when you catch their eye. if they still look away, you might be doing something wrong with your appearance
/r/seduction06/10/10 11:19 PM
1

guess it depends on the area. i lived in chicago and toronto for a few years, and i honestly say toronto women are so much more open to talking to you than in chicago (might be a canada thing). I've also met a lot of women from long island (nyc), and they are all pretty bitchy across the board. so depends on where you're gaming. my experience with european women are all women from paris, stockholm, and a few italians. they are the nicest people i have ever met, even when they're HB8 and 9's. so …
/r/seduction05/10/10 07:06 PM
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sadly this is in europe. american game is bit more difficult. from what i've seen, the shit that works in his fr's and in field videos would be met with "fuck off" around here.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:27 PM
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sadly, this also reflects the media's portrayal of pua's after the media stunts (vh1's pickup artist, all the talk shows, etc) that people have been doing the past few years. they make more money, but they also make the entire community look like a bunch of loosers.
/r/seduction05/10/10 03:48 PM
1

tell her you're really turned off by this. have her come back to chase you. if you chase her and try to calm her down, you just gave her the pants
/r/seduction05/10/10 03:46 PM
1

"wtf is this homework you speak of?" she'll get a giggle or if she's nerdy will go you're an idiot
/r/seduction05/10/10 03:29 PM
1

I use: Armani Code for nights out Burbury Brit for dressy events Armani's Aqua Di Gio when I'm not in a crowded area with lots of other dudes using this cologne (it's everywhere o.O) Jean Paul Gaultier's Le Male for night's out and general sarging (heavier application at night, very light application during the day. still not the best day cologne) The best day-wear cologne is Issey Miyake's Pour Homme. also check this guy's reviews out on youtube. good stuff: http://www.youtube.com/user/tswetcof…
/r/seduction05/10/10 03:22 PM
2

this is definitely a very detailed model. not many examples, but you can more or less figure that our yourself. pass this one to your fellow pua's. this is good shit
/r/seduction05/10/10 03:19 PM
2

don't be in one. or do something really nice for her that you remote controlled being so far away. for example, pay a florist to deliver her flowers every day of valentine's day week. send her a surprise present every once in a while. show up on her doorstep w/o telling her. call her beforehand and pretend like ur still at your home. lol she'll go crazy for you then
/r/seduction04/10/10 07:07 PM
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no lunch. take her to do some kind of activity with you. another ballsy move would be to ask her all dorky like and say "will you go doo an actvity with me?" she'll giggle and go really? an activity? and u can go back to your non-dorky voice and say, yea, in case you couldn't tell, i'm trying to ask you out. get the interest out there if you feel like you're tettering on the line between friend zone and boyfriend
/r/seduction04/10/10 07:04 PM
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i always thought the game was just an eye opener to the pua community. it didn't teach me shit other than pua's are real people and you can be one too! lol
/r/seduction04/10/10 06:30 PM
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lol
/r/seduction04/10/10 01:43 AM
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lol nice well done! i had a huge crush on emma back in high school. i'm 22 btw. yea, i agree with psykocrime. turn this into a dhv story later. come up with something a bit more high value (who's going to know what really happened... ;-p ). but just the fact that u were different than the crazy fans that would approach her probably stuck in her memory for a bit longer than normal. lol
/r/seduction04/10/10 12:28 AM
1

rochester huh? I'm over in niagara falls/amherst. it's an hr away, but hey, i'm down for a little WNY meetup sometime. i would say check out the weekly challenge too. start looking into some materials. david deangelo, david wygant, mystery look into some basic inner game stuff if you need the confidence boost, and look into some basic openers, negs, and other specific things.
/r/seduction03/10/10 08:46 PM
1

you could neg the person you're interested in and say "is there an off button? damn how you hang out with this girl?" laugh and listen to the other person talk. don't draw the neg out too long or your target will get restless and she'll give up qualifying herself to you. let the other person finish their thing, and then go back to your target. "there, see, the grownups are done talking. what's up?" make sure to be playful when you say this too. if she smacks u on the arm or something, take that …
/r/seduction03/10/10 08:43 PM
1

good job!! remember, you are the man. anything that makes you feel otherwise is silly and unjustified
/r/seduction03/10/10 05:00 PM
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what you could try instead of getting girl b jealous of a is try to bring another girl into the equation. take girls a and b out to a party/bar, one in each arm. see the reaction the other women have when u enter, cuz your winggirls will notice way before you. then talk to everyone, have a good time. be the alpha male at the party (shouldn't be too hard. u just walked in with 2 hot chicks on each arm). your girl a and b will realize how much of an awesome guy u r, and come chasing u. trying to g…
/r/seduction03/10/10 04:58 PM
1

honestly, the issue with race won't really play a part until you get serious with a girl and meet her family. for me, the first few times i met my ex's family, they kept talking about 16 candles and wax on, wax off. lol kinda fucked up. they turned out to not be racist at all. one of the nicest families i know. but that didn't stop the girl's grandmother from being all "why isn't he white?" lol
/r/seduction02/10/10 09:33 PM
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by the time you are kino-ing, you've probably gotten at least a few ioi's. by that time, she's thought of at the very least, kissing you. most women would've thought of sleeping with you already (keep in mind that they may be thinking "oh god what if i sleep with this guy and my friends think i'm a slut, etc, but none the less the thought will have crossed their minds)
/r/seduction02/10/10 09:31 PM
3

kino, isolate, don't think. believe it or not, she's way ahead of u. she's been thinking about kissing u for at least a few minutes before you have.
/r/seduction02/10/10 08:11 PM
5

Back off and find someone else. This ones a dead end
/r/seduction02/10/10 06:00 AM
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It most certainly depends on the girl and is not rule. I dated a white girl for 3 yrs. A friend of mine is dating a really hot white girl, and neither of us are white or black. Play the game. If u incorporate race into the game when ur playing with white girls, ur improvements in pickup will be dwarfed by it ur own racial inferiority complex.
/r/seduction02/10/10 05:58 AM
1

You're right. That makes sense. hmmm... i will keep that in mind. That is exactly what I was looking for. Hard to find good ways to open at the gym. Thanks so much!! This concept of "in group" by negging someone else is probably the best way to open someone at the gym that I've come across. It didn't cross my mind at all.
/r/seduction02/10/10 03:13 AM
1

give me an example of social observation opener. do u mean like one of those "I like <something interesting> and would've regretted it if I didn't come and say hi" type things? suppose that always works. I work out at a bally's by me. so there's a good abundance of girls and guys. A lot of the girls I see there really have no clue what they're doing. that's also true of my university's gym i used to go to.
/r/seduction01/10/10 09:50 PM
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it is set super high. plus bad knees run in the family.
/r/seduction01/10/10 05:39 PM
1

that i got off the eliptical and walked around to cool off??
/r/seduction01/10/10 05:33 PM
1

lol nice. she is really into movies, like me. didn't say specifically which ones tho. it would be pretty sweet if she was into zombie movies! love that shit
/r/seduction30/09/10 02:13 PM
2

I figured online dating to be a pain in the ass without too many rewards. unfortunatlely, with my work schedule right now, i barely get any time to go out.
/r/seduction30/09/10 02:12 PM
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it's fine. if they are like why do you not have a facebook, say some variation of the following: "too many girls stalked me on fb. had to delete mine" "i am comfortable handling my friends the normal way. by calling them. you should try it. give me your number, i'll call you, and voila, fb is not needed ;-p"
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:43 PM
2

*fail
/r/seduction29/09/10 06:22 PM
1

exactly. even mystery got so much shit when he was invited to all those talk shows.
/r/seduction29/09/10 02:32 PM
1

remember: you are only responsible for 50% of the conversation. you can take control of a conversation by bringing up topics to lead the conversation. ask her about herself. take things from what she says to branch off into more threads. don't ask yes/no questions. ask how she feels about blah, her opinion about blah, etc conversation is easy as long as she is interested in talked to you.
/r/seduction29/09/10 02:28 PM
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First step: improve self confidence (physical, mental, etc) you do this by improving the way you look, work out, get better clothes, accessorize. all this gives you a positive self image. you want to look in the mirror and say "damn i'm sexy" when you're done. next, read some basic materials on body language, conversing, etc. watch movies with alpha males in them (any chick flick, classic tom cruise/clooney/harrison ford/007 flicks) talk to people. talk to everyone. hey, how you doing? oh yea! m…
/r/seduction29/09/10 02:15 PM
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every time some kind of pua goes on any form of media, it's almost always met with skeptcism and ridicule. probably why the community should stay away from media, especially when the whole point of pua is so that other people don't know you're a pua.... bunch of money hungry idiots trying to be famous now is going to ruin it for the rest of us
/r/seduction28/09/10 09:29 PM
1

it felt fake/you were bored because you were probably not that interested in the person to begin with.
/r/seduction27/09/10 04:40 PM
1

don't wait too long. granted you made a lasting impression. if you waited, and she forgets your name, you can be the bmx tricks guy. txting her is the least assertive. being less assertive is not necessarily a bad thing depending on how well your conversation went. if you were getting ioi's left and right, then you need to call her. but if you weren't, txt her
/r/seduction25/09/10 03:09 PM
2

violation of the 3 second rule doesn't necessarily mean you fail. You just need more time than 20 minutes, or you needed to up your game so that in 20 minutes you have her interested
/r/seduction25/09/10 03:07 PM
2

Try Style's 30 day pua thing. You can pick on up at any Barnes and Noble or Borders
/r/seduction24/09/10 02:19 PM
2

When the conversation is dull, throw in threads like what do u want to be when u grow up? And don't say princess (if she says I am grown up, say "yea I don't think so and some slight arm kino, or tease her about w/e she says) Or throw in things like "how do you all know each other" anything to get them to feed you potential conversation threads
/r/seduction24/09/10 03:46 AM
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ask for directions to a coffee place. tell her you're meeting friends there and you've never been there before. ask her if she's been there. if it's close by, she probably has. ask her what's good to order there. then say if it's not good, she'll have to pay or something along those lines. she laughs. ask her where she's headed. she'll say blah blah blah. talk about this blah blah blah. tease her playfully about it. blah blah blah since you introduced a false time constraint at teh beginning of …
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:27 PM
1

Perfect example of teasing a girl there! And the perfect reaction from her too! Good job!
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:56 AM
2

Nothing wrong with older chicks. Shows u mature and responsible. Opens doors for more women later on too
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:51 AM
0

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! Do not ask her out yet!!!!! The next time you see her, smile, say something like "Hello again" and something simple Introduce more conversation like "what do u like to listen to when you work out?" Tease her playfully about w/e you talk about. Get her laughing. Go back to working out. The next time u see her (I'd imagine u see her regularly) say hi, smile, talk for a few min about stuff. Ask her if she wants to join u for a -insert place to eat or coffee shop or w/e here-…
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:49 AM
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just be careful mate. don't fall into the friend zone. you're in the threshold where it's very easy to tip that direction. tease her a bit here and there. make her laugh but in a embarassed way. you're not her friend. she's not cute so that you can be her friend. don't forget that! you know what you should try? meet the people who come to your jazz thing!
/r/seduction23/09/10 04:12 AM
2

Do the method David Wygant came up with for gym pickup. When you see her with her headphones on, put your hands up to your ears and do the motion of taking out headphones. She'll take her's out cuz she knows you want to say something to her. Now, say something like "I always see you walking buy, listening to your music and you're so -insert adjective (focused, efficient, w/e)-. What do you listen to?" Discuss the music she listens to, tease her bout her music choice playfully, etc. This does fee…
/r/seduction22/09/10 10:43 PM
1

There has to be somethings you don't feel confident about physically. Maybe you would like a six pack. Maybe you want to get rid of some skin blemish. Go do those things. That's where you start. Immediately, right off the bat, huge confidence boost to look in the mirror and go, "I look good!" Then, mingle with people. Not with women only. People. Start where you are most confortable. If that's a bunch of dudes, so be it. You don't need to generate all your confidence completely off of whether or…
/r/seduction22/09/10 10:38 PM
2

Lol this is what happens when intellectuals tackle something primal
/r/seduction22/09/10 01:10 AM
3

Very similar to the concept of multi-threading combined with never answer a question directly.
/r/seduction21/09/10 01:57 PM
2

find out some interests of yours/hers. and then go do stuff related to those interests.
/r/seduction21/09/10 01:45 PM
1

Niagara Falls
/r/seduction20/09/10 10:34 PM
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Here's my favorite ways to contacting women in order of favorite to least favorite: txting via phone number phone call email read some field reports to see what to say
/r/seduction20/09/10 07:39 PM
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Read this subreddit. lol
/r/seduction20/09/10 07:07 PM
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lol classic mystery in this particular case, i'd do those after you're in "C2" or you've had enough time to build some comfort. Since he's in a time constraint situation, I would've just started with some light teasing. Get her laughing. Btw, your opener is good. Could have been more creative. But it does the job. She didn't seem like a bitch, so you don't have to come up with something crazy. She could've said fuck off I'm busy, but she didn't. She's not a HB10. So stick with that opener. Work …
/r/seduction20/09/10 07:06 PM
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No approach is a waste of time. You learned that not building enough rapport with a girl will land you in an awkward position at the end when you try to number close. Instead of jokes, I would've gone with some light teasing about her classes. Or about the books she's reading. Or anything that you guys talked about for 10 minutes. You don't need to come in prepared with lots of topics to talk about. 50% of a conversation is your responsibility, the other 50% is her's.
/r/seduction20/09/10 07:03 PM
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Instead of openers, consider first impression improvement. You won't have the opportunity to have a conversation with a girl very often in most night game situations. Just give the first impression of alpha male, then mingle. When u meet someone u want to talk to, "bounce" to a secluded place. Or get her number and talk later
/r/seduction20/09/10 05:35 AM
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Honestly, she prob doesn't remember u unless u made some kind of lasting impression. If u do feel really compelled to call, say u were out of town for the last 2 weeks or week and a half
/r/seduction20/09/10 05:33 AM
1

yo
/r/seduction19/09/10 04:39 PM
1

Western NY (Buffalo, Niagara Falls, etc)
/r/seduction19/09/10 04:39 PM
1

Follow that up with a smile and shrug at the girls that are listening to ur story.
/r/seduction19/09/10 04:17 PM
1

Try responding with a quick jab back like "Yea, wait till you see me at the end of the night" and wink. Or beforehand, come up with a DHV story to follow that up. "Yea, I once beat the crap out of a guy at a bar yelling at his gf. Ended up getting thrown out, but I got her number later." Desirable amongst women, good guy values, etc.
/r/seduction19/09/10 03:30 PM
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I think the kissing her on the face thing is weird man. You are not her bf. Lips first. Then if she's good, she gets to kiss you on the cheek or w/e. You have many different options here. After the song is over, take her to one of the many couches and booths they have off the floor. Or you say something like "Your lips were getting dangerously close to mine. This shit ain't free. You're gonna have to buy me a drink first" Some kind of DHV anything. Kissing her on the neck/face when u guys just m…
/r/seduction19/09/10 03:22 PM
2

You have to match their energy level. Drunk people will be more open, have slightly higher energy levels (not talking completely wasted and passed out) Be just as animated as the drunk people around you. Be constantly laughing and making others laugh. Same pickup stuff, just slightly easier cuz it matters less what you say
/r/seduction19/09/10 02:57 PM
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