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Yeah it is hard.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 09:43 PM
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Nah, "my father got divorce-raped so I should go MGTOW" is how a man thinks. Women don't do introspection; they follow the herd instead. So if their mother is a carousel-riding drug-abusing single mom who fucks criminals, lives off welfare and mistrusts men, then the daughter will follow suit. On top of that, if you were right, girls without a father would be better off because they'd realize that her mother was miserable without a man. Yet statistics clearly show that growing up without a dad i…
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 09:35 PM
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Everyone in that thread blindly assumes that she took the pill and it malfunctioned, but that thread's OP doesn't say that she did. It's probable that she's conveniently leaving out the part where she intentionally didn't take her birth control.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:35 PM
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The fool trusted the woman he's been in a relationship with for years.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:32 PM
9

That's one well-trained hamster.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:30 PM
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Yeah, it was shocking to see women basically saying "if you trust a woman and she ruins your life, it's your own fault." And then they wonder why many men don't respect women, go MGTOW, pump and dump, etc.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:28 PM
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2X is a truly evil place. Women go there to say "should I be an horrible human being?" (in this case, "should I baby-trap him?") and all the "no you shouldn't" comments get deleted. So all she hears is "you go girl!" and thus she proceeds to ruin a man's life.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:23 PM
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Great post, but I'd change the order slightly: her the chad who knocked her up and left her ass/got locked up baby (if you find a unicorn/NAWALT, this moves to #2) parents (...) 30. the bacteria in the mud (...) 42. You
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:13 PM
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Worst of all are the ones who explicitly say "My child comes first." 100% of women are going to put their child above their new boyfriend, even the ones who don't say that explicitly.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:13 PM
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You'd be lucky to get one out of three nowadays.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 05:05 PM
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There's another thread on 2X right now where a woman said that one year ago she convinced her boyfriend with a "great job" to stop using condoms and rely solely on the pill. She managed this despite his "misogynist" worry that she'd trap him with a baby. To allay his fears, she promised to get an abortion if she became pregnant after all. In an utterly shocking twist, one year later, she's pregnant and doesn't want an abortion. So she's posting on 2X, hoping that white knights will tell her to t…
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 09:00 PM
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Women won't use them to replace men completely, true. But women will still use them, like they use dildos today.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 03:45 PM
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Good point. Edited my post.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 08:17 AM
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Simple: if the man has no money, the woman walks away.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 08:02 AM
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If you want to say that TRP is merely the knowledge of female nature, then you could break it down like this: PUA: "TRP is right, so I'm going to play the game better than anyone." MRA: "TRP is right, so I'm going to change the rules of the game." MGTOW: "TRP is right, so I'm not going to play the game."
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 07:31 AM
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Like 99% of men.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 06:12 AM
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Women have been known to demand the dog in a divorce settlement and then have the dog killed, just to torture the husband. Women are as awful as you let them be. When there's zero incentive for her to be nice (as in the case of divorce) and zero legal/social restrictions on her being awful, then her true nature comes out. And it's ugly.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 06:09 AM
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Nah, I'd explain it like this: TRP/PUA: "the game is rigged so I'm going to play it better than anyone." MRA: "the game is rigged so we should change the rules." MGTOW: "the game is rigged so I don't play."
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 06:01 AM
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Using this logic, the man should discard the woman in the event that she stops giving him regular sex.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 05:59 AM
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TRP is just the bargaining stage of grief.
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 09:39 PM
23

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
/r/MGTOW29/05/17 09:36 PM
1

So you're leaving this sub because it's not an alt-right safe space?
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 06:56 PM
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Our lizard brains evolved in cavemen times. In that period a woman wants a man who is willing and able to murder another caveman, for protection or resources. And the classic alpha/bad boy resembles a stone-age murderer/hunter much more closely than beta bob does. Aside from that, it's also important to realize that women get turned on by strong emotion in a sexual context, even if it's "negative" emotion. Hair pulling and dirty talk gives them more Feelz than saying "I want to hold your hand" h…
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 05:48 AM
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Indeed. Being adopted has no negative effect on children's well-being, while getting yelled at 24/7 will mess children up.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 09:19 AM
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The best decisions are always made with a diverse group of minds, not necessarily a talented or passionate one.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 05:47 AM
1

I'm picturing a mafia boss saying "breaking your kneecaps was strictly business. You don't want to know what happens when you actually make us angry, do you?"
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 05:41 AM
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Who would you rather associate with: A great guy who condemns his criminal ancestors; Or a murderer who hides behind "my parents are great people therefore I'm great, while your ancestors are dicks therefore you're a dick" and "I'm keeping you guys safe!" whenever someone tells him to stop killing. To be clear, I don't blame the American people. I blame the psychopaths who rule you.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 10:15 PM
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You're right that WW2 was the fault of Europe, while the U.S. helped beat the nazis and helped rebuild Europe.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 10:07 PM
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First you say that the US is the "protector of the world" and "the world would explode if we became isolationist." Now you say "So goat fucking idiots are going to get moved to extract said oil. Everyone acts like these are new concepts. This is what humans do. The strongest tribe puts its will upon the weaker ones for resources." So which is it? Does the U.S. protect and stabilize the world, or does the U.S. plunder the world? Or do you hold a weird double-think position where the U.S. is simul…
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 08:37 PM
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Even if you don't accept that climate change/global warming is real, then there are still other tragedy-of-the-commons type of problems active in the world right now. Some examples are pollution, resource depletion and declining EROEI. And the U.S. is contributing disproportionality to these problems too.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 08:31 PM
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I live in Europe. The four main threats right now are more or less all caused by the U.S.: Russia, who is only awake because the U.S. overthrew the legitimate, democratically elected Ukrainian government in a coup. (plus many other sources, just google) This had the effect of replacing a pro-Putin government with a pro-western government with neo-nazis in it. This woke the Russian bear. What the U.S. did in Ukraine is sort of analogous to this: imagine Russia overthrowing the Canadian government…
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 07:19 PM
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I would expect MASSIVE protestations from all around the world from Muslims denouncing these craziness. EACH TIME. Because it is done in the name of their religion. Or else they are silently complicit, in my view. There are insane christians out there who commit atrocities in the name of christianity. Have you christian MGTOWs publicly denounced their actions, EACH TIME? If not, you're silently complicit. The US commits atrocities around the globe in the name of the American people (because tech…
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 03:25 PM
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The war would have been lost without USA's lend-lease program. However, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II) The German armed forces suffered 80% of its military deaths in the Eastern Front. A year before D-day the Soviets won the Battle of Kursk. Thus the Soviets were already steadily moving towards Berlin before the first American soldier landed in France.
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 06:46 PM
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What you're essentially saying is "leftists should be shunned, no matter what they post on /r/mgtow, because they're guilty of thoughtcrime." I strongly disagree with punishing people based on thoughtcrime. Yes, if leftists (or tradcons) break say rule 4, then punish them (ignore, report or something like that). But don't punish them for thoughtcrimes. Asking for a safe MGTOW space will only hurt the movement in the long run.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 09:49 PM
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[I] was always amazed by how boyish the husbands seemed. How nice and polite (...) I found it odd that I was so strongly repulsed by these fellows, because aren't these the kind of men women are supposed to want? Successful, family-oriented types? And yet ... blargh.
/r/MGTOW21/05/17 06:57 PM
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Marry her with a fake diamond and you can still be divorce-raped.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 05:55 PM
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I bet that when that woman was 20 she didn't mind man's attraction to youth and fertility.
/r/MGTOW20/05/17 05:24 AM
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Women are so good at spotting flaws in men and so bad at spotting flaws in themselves.
/r/MGTOW19/05/17 09:09 PM
2

Daily meditation is very worthwhile.
/r/MGTOW18/05/17 03:35 PM
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In The Netherlands it's legal and you pay about 100 euro ($109) per hour here for a 9/10.
/r/MGTOW14/05/17 03:10 PM
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Teenage girl microwaves her pet guinea pig and puts footage of her 'cooking' it online, sparking online hate campaign (emphasis mine) Ah yes, if we tell women to stop torturing animals then we're misogynists.
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 06:40 AM
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What women want you to do is feed their alpha fux/beta bux livestyle. So: If you're a top-10% man, be sexually aggressive. Don't ask consent because it's a turn-off. It's not sexual assault because women always want chad dick. Don't go MGTOW because she wants your sperm. If you're not, ideally you should do favors for her without ever asking for sex or making a move. Failing that, ask for consent so that she can shoot you down in a way that's convenient for her. Failing that too, it's sexual ass…
/r/MGTOW13/05/17 05:52 AM
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Society doesn't just place the needs of women above the needs of men. Society places the feelings and convenience of women above the needs of men.
/r/MGTOW10/05/17 03:38 PM
1

Why would you downvote him for saying that?
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 05:35 PM
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You're talking about an appeal from authority. While admittedly that's a better argument than "you're a hypocrite therefore you're wrong" it's still not a great argument: Opinion on appeals to authority is divided, with some holding that it is a strong argument[2][3][4] which "has a legitimate force",[5] and others that it is weak or an outright fallacy[6][7][8][9][10] holding that, as noted in the Medical Press and Circular, on a conflict of facts, "mere appeal to authority alone had better be …
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 10:25 AM
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Turns out dating is unnatural because animals don't do it. Animals only fuck. But if a stone-age man fucks a stone-age woman and then abandons her, she and their child are screwed. After all, she can't feed and protect herself while pregnant and breastfeeding. I think it's "natural" for a man to stick around for a few years so that his offspring isn't helpless anymore; and then leave. That's what the seven year itch is.
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 06:34 AM
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His argument would be real stronger if he was vegan himself. No, it's irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the argument itself. Or is "we shouldn't steal" suddenly false if it's said by a thief? The problem is that 99% of people are hypocrites. So if you're going to disregard what some people say because they're hypocrites, then what you're probably doing unconsciously is this: Do I like what this person is saying? Yes => overlook hypocrisy (or at least don't actively try to discover it), …
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 05:50 AM
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What you're saying is an ad hominem attack: Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is now usually understood as a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 08:48 PM
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Buy your dad a beer.
/r/MGTOW07/05/17 06:18 AM
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The anger phase is a healthy part of the MGTOW process. Don't take that away from him as long as he's not advocating anything illegal (and OP's not).
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 04:50 AM
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It's scary how harshly thoughtcrimes are persecuted by the general public nowadays. Try saying "I voted Trump" or "I'm MGTOW" or "I'm ordering a sex doll" in public. You broke no laws, yet everyone tries to punish you for having bad ideas.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 08:18 PM
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Glad to hear that, at least. I hope he'll wake up one day.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 08:51 PM
2

There's always a relevant xkcd.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 08:27 PM
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LOL. i think my one friends wife is beating him currently, he won't admit it but keeps talking about how "aggressive" she's become and we can hear her yell at him thru the phone she's so loud. lol. so happy to be single :D How can you be happy and cheerful when your friend is being abused? That's an awful situation to be in, because especially as a man you have zero good options.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 08:26 PM
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Indeed, either because she was pretending the whole time, or because she really was in love with you but baby rabies/chad causes her to turn feral.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 08:23 PM
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It's sickening that women use children as weapons against men.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 07:37 PM
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When women are in their twenties, they love being sexually promiscuous. We call that "riding the cock carousel." Then when those same women are in their thirties, they try to use sex to get a guy way above their SMV to commit to them. And they fail, so out of vanity they convince themselves that they fail because he's getting no-strings-attached sex from twenty-something women. So at that point the thirty-something women say that women shouldn't be sexually promiscuous. In other words, a woman i…
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 06:09 AM
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There are differences in how bad hurting someone is. Accidentally hurting someone, hurting someone in self defense, hurting someone in hot blood and hurting someone in cold blood are treated differently. With that in mind, I can see "attacking someone because of his race" also having being a defined category. That being said, you're absolutely right that those black people committed a hate crime too. I can see the concept behind 'hate crime' but the way 'hate crime' is actually used is clearly b…
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 08:14 PM
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There's nothing that a feminist will accept as counter-proof to patriarchy theory. And if a theory can't be falsified, then it's not science, it's religion.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 05:34 PM
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Reminds me of this comic.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 05:31 PM
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Probably obvious, but that link is NSFW.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 05:09 PM
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Hate crime used to be "you attacked a black person just for being black." And that certainly should be punished. But indeed, nowadays people shout "hate crime" when they're trying to thought police you and can't point to an actual law you broke.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 06:23 AM
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Well yeah, because their psyche has evolved so that things that get them power and resources make them feel good, while things that cost them power and resources make them feel bad. It'd be unreasonable for them to say "you can't do that because it costs me power or resources." So instead they've evolved to say "you can't do that because it hurts me emotionally."
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 06:21 AM
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In North America women are so dangerous because they have the unconditional backing of the police, of the law and of popular culture. None of those things are true while she's with ISIS.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 05:23 AM
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They are highly trained and genetically predisposed manipulators. Their evolutionary strategy is to extract as much resources from men as possible. Here's what I would do if I was a rational woman who cared about nothing other than resource extraction, my offspring and my own happiness: I wouldn't sleep around (because that destroys a woman's ability to pair bond), I'd find a rich guy, I'd marry young (because a women's SMV is the highest then), I'd have his children at a young age (healthy eggs…
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 08:55 PM
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If something makes women feel nice, then it's good and true and should be spread. If something makes women feel bad, then it's evil and false and should be banned. And for most women, that's all there is to it. No other factors are relevant.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 08:39 PM
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So is a "good woman" defined as "a woman that adds value to a man's life"? In that case, this statement boils down to: "I define X as adding value to a man's life. Therefore X adds value to a man's life." Uh... you're not exactly proving anything here. I could use the exact same logic to say "I define killing babies as being virtuous. Therefore killing babies is virtuous!" What if the woman is a bad woman and merely pretends to be good until she has your balls in a vice? Most men can't tell the …
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 08:35 PM
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Women can't wrap their heads around "Heterosexual men would rather be single than be married." So they think "ah, they must be asexual/gay and that's why they don't want a wife." As a bonus, that kind of shaming also pushes some weak-willed "confirmed bachelors" to get married anyway.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 10:01 AM
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Forcing women into the draft is a great way to get the draft abolished entirely.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 09:57 AM
5

OP's sister, five years later and post-wall: "WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE?!?"
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 05:50 AM
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I think there really are a few NAWALTS out there. The problem is just that the AWALTS are so good at pretending to be NAWALTS that it's not worth the risk. You just don't know if you have an AWALT or NAWALT until it's too late. And thus to be safe you have to assume that every woman you meet is an AWALT.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 05:49 AM
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The problems with your "some women are career women" NAWALT case are: Some women are excellent liars and if you're dating one of those you won't find out until it's too late. Most men who get screwed over by one of these chameleon women never saw it coming. Yes, Russian roulette has a 5/6 chance of not killing you, but the problem is that you don't know ahead of time what's going to happen. Even if she's genuinely a career woman in her twenties, then she might get baby rabies in her thirties. Th…
/r/MGTOW30/04/17 06:45 PM
8

It's projection.
/r/MGTOW30/04/17 06:32 PM
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It's simple: If something makes women feel nice, then it's good and true and should be spread. If something makes women feel bad, then it's evil and false and should be banned. And for most women, that's all there is to it. No other factors are relevant. For instance, mocking men makes them feel good, so they do. Saying that men should love obese women also makes them feel good, so they do. Chad makes them feel tingly, so he's automatically nice, misunderstood, kind, morally upstanding, etc. Bet…
/r/MGTOW30/04/17 07:15 AM
2

Rose said: "So far the money I have earnt from dating has paid for my car insurance, designer shoes and handbags and the rest I have put away into my savings.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 05:31 PM
10

The bible has a lot of things to say about women, such as: I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 04:00 PM
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I'm undergoing chemo and my blood and bodily fluids are toxic I hope you'll be alright.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 04:58 AM
10

But there are some women brave enough to lift the lid on this most controversial form of bartering. And they confess that they either use sex by offering it up like a particularly tantalising prize or withholding it until their man accedes to their demands. As they testify, such a practice can get you everything from luxury Caribbean holidays to designer spending sprees. Moreover, these women see little shame in their behaviour, instead saying their exploitation of their husband’s weakness is ju…
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 05:41 PM
2

Teachers 'give higher marks to girls'
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 05:38 PM
13

Perfectly good men are becoming flawed women. Perfectly good women are becoming flawed men.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 06:57 AM
2

It reminds me of people who try to sell something and every time someone makes them an offer, they think "aha, that means that it's worth more than this offer!" and refuse. And so they never sell. Similarly, some women think "aha, that means that I'm worth more than this guy!" if a guy shows interest in them. And so they stay single.
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 06:54 AM
3

about 1-2 times a month i have feeling that i need a girlfriend, some sort of caveman instincts will be alive, i want to cuddle someone and i want to take care of someone I fix that by paying for a massage once or twice per month.
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 09:28 PM
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"Woman up and go make me a sandwich."
/r/MGTOW25/04/17 06:17 AM
7

There's zero concern here for actually giving the man a happy married life. It's all "what's the easiest way of manipulating him?"
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 11:42 PM
5

It's the anger stage of grief. He likely won't stay this angry forever.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 11:56 PM
1

However having said that, I have a biological inherent need for intimacy, comfort, love Get a dog. Alternatively, get a prostitute/escort/sexual massage occasionally.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 11:53 PM
2

Catchy name.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 03:37 PM
2

No, this woman still has makeup on.
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 11:25 PM
3

"He's an asshole for finding out that I cheated on him."
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 04:14 PM
6

it's all by design. What's the goal? More women in the workplace = more taxpayers? Dividing man and women means less chance of us rising up in revolt? Something else?
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 03:57 PM
1

Women love to commit non-physical violence (e.g. divorce rape) and they love to let men use physical violence for them.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 08:10 PM
9

All wars are banker's wars.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 11:28 AM
1

"Sorry" doesn't mean anything unless it's paired with "... and here are concrete steps I will take to improve this situation." "I will try harder to work on it" isn't concrete enough.
/r/MGTOW18/04/17 10:51 AM
6

Even if he made over 6 figures, it's still hard to brag to other women that you're dating a six-figure sewage man.
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 06:15 AM
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Another reason why it's a cult is that there's no way to falsify feminism, according to feminists: "Men are objectively worse off in this area." "Blah blah patriarchy hurts men too blah blah men refuse to seek help/refuse to talk about their feelings so it's their own fault blah blah" "Here's evidence disproving the pay gap." "But my feelz! Also, the only reason why women don't become highly-skilled hardworking engineers is institutional and internalized sexism." Etc, etc. When there's no way to…
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 09:45 PM
0

Meh, better this than "look at the $400 purse I just bought!"
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 07:44 PM
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Plus the last paragraph isn't something a feminist would write: There you have it, guys: the right way to raise the next generation’s men. Personally I totally hate kids and I’m never gonna have any, but there’s a lot of you that can gain wisdom from this. If you wanna discuss it, tweet under #YesAllSons. Kbye. Bitch.
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 05:22 AM
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She Didn't Know What She Was Doing She didn't know that she'd get into trouble for it. She's sorry she got caught.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 02:37 PM
5

There are also posters here who've been chadding it up for a decade and are now genuinely tired of women.
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 02:36 PM
5

It'd help but not as much as you'd think. After all, the average bluepiller who right now is dating down, is the same bluepiller who wouldn't hire a legal prostitute because society would tell him that it's degrading to women. You can legalize prostitution but you can't stop women from calling it misogynist; and lots of men won't do things that women call misogynist. If you want proof, take a look at a country where prostitution is legal. The men there tend to have a bit more self-respect and th…
/r/MGTOW09/04/17 05:08 AM
3

It already exists. It's high tax, with tax cuts for married couples + money spent on women-only programs such as shelters.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 09:45 PM
2

I haven't studied it extensively, but common sense suggests that masturbating daily releases more semen than having a wet dream every week or month. So you can't retain it completely, but you can partially.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 08:14 PM
2

In the Buddhist suttas, the Buddha had to explicitly mention that it was not an offense for an a Arahant, a fully enlightened monk, to ejaculate while dreaming, because it was happening so often to his monks. But those fully enlightened monks apparently didn't masturbate. OP's not advocating to not have wet dreams, OP's advocating to not masturbate.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 07:42 PM
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I've been doing nofap and it definitely gives you some more energy. Plus you get free willpower training (which is a muscle) from not fapping.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 05:26 PM
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No because there'll still be wars over rare earth materials (that's why the US is in Afghanistan) and there are still wars that are fought because Israel wants to destroy/weaker local rivals. And in the future the US will probably go to war over water.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 06:19 AM
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If you do that, and stop illegally poking the Russian bear such as with this missile strike and stop illegally destroying middle eastern countries that then flood our countries with refugees, we're happy too.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 06:13 AM
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Sure the brits started this process, but it didn't help that you recently destroyed Libya and Iraq and are now helping destroy Yemen and Syria. There's a reason why the migrant crisis is an issue in Europe now and wasn't that big of an issue twenty years ago. Twenty years ago the middle east was more or less stable.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 06:13 AM
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If the US military really was a defensive institution that was occasionally abused by politicians, then it'd have something like one tenth the budget it has now. Look at a map: who is going to invade you guys? Canada? Mexico? Cuba? That's laughable, the US is incredibly safe thanks to simple geography. If you actually only cared about protecting the US, you could shrink your military dramatically. But in reality, the US spends more money on the military than the next ten or so countries combined…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 08:40 PM
9

That's a nice illustration that woman can't comprehend the idea that men could go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 04:37 PM
6

No fault divorce should mean no alimony. After all, why does the man owe his ex-wife alimony, if it's not his fault that they separated?
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 04:15 PM
2

And you'd have been fined, at best.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 01:55 PM
8

For the sake of discussion, let's assume you're right. Even then you should go MGTOW because women are very good at putting up a pleasant facade. You won't know what kind of woman you're dating until she's taking half your stuff or falsely claiming rape. After all, most marriages end up in divorce, most divorces are initiated by women and most men don't think that the woman they married would end up taking half their stuff. And yet...
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 10:05 AM
9

Once upon a time an old monk and a young monk were walking past a wealthy woman standing next to a large mud puddle. The woman’s servants were moving her bags and therefore nobody was available to carry her across the water. As she stood there, complaining, the older monk walked up to her and picked her up. He put her on his back, walked across the puddle and set her down on the other side. It was a quick and speechless maneuver. Several miles down the road, the young monk was still ruminating o…
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 07:40 PM
8

The general rule is "it's the man's problem/fault." Let's apply that rule: if you marry a woman and you wanna have sex Then it's the man's problem/fault. But if she wants to have sex and you don't want to Then it's the man's problem/fault.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 04:46 PM
2

For the say top-20% man spinning plates is a lot of work, and indeed some don't. For the say top-5% man, it's easy: chicks simply jump them daily even if they put in zero effort. And the top-5% men get such an unbelievable amount of free pussy that it explains: Why most men don't have (much) sex; Why women do have a lot of sex. Why women are plagued with STDs (they're all barebacking the same top-5% guys).
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 06:27 AM
6

Maybe make a sticky thread or another subreddit?
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 11:18 AM
3

The economics make sense if you allow polygamy (and indeed, we evolved in a polygamous world). Why not go for the top-10% men if that man can take ten wives?
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 10:05 AM
6

I really don't understand this sentiment. They want their women advantage back.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 05:38 PM
49

Don't forget that when a women says "we should do x" she often means "you should do x." She's not actually saying that women should be less selfish and more loving.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 11:30 PM
31

Every article I've read by women writing about MGTOW has this undertone of "how awful, this means there are less slaves on the plantation! This is hurting wymenz!!!1!"
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 11:28 PM
29

“Why should she be able to just say what she wants, accuse him of anything and then get on with her life like that? It doesn’t seem fair to me. I’m not sure what rights I have. Maybe none?” So, what has gone wrong? Why are young people not seeing happy futures with a partner — or even setting a goal for family life? You answered your own question: what's wrong is that men have no rights in conflicts between men and women.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 11:24 PM
1

I tried picking up chocks sober but couldn't today. Did any negative thoughts arise from that? If they did, did you realize that those thoughts were just creations by your mind? Did you laugh at them? What should I do? The only person who can decide what you should do is you. Laughing at concepts as they come up can help with this: "I have to do x or I'm a loser" => laugh at that idea => only then consider if you actually want to do x. If you were to ask me "what do you want to do with your life…
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 05:26 PM
2

I either internally or externally laugh at most thoughts that enter my mind. I especially laugh at unpleasant thoughts. Only after that do I decide if I want to take some action based on that thought. Why do I laugh at my thoughts? I laugh at my thoughts because they're not objectively true; they're just models of reality that my mind created. That means that all thoughts are slightly absurd and shouldn't be taken seriously. At best thoughts are useful, but thoughts are never objectively true. F…
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 07:56 PM
15

"I'm not like most girls" - most girls
/r/MGTOW29/03/17 09:18 PM
3

To be fair, to a lesser extent men too disregard statistics they don't like.
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 06:20 PM
1

Some people really are addicted to porn. For them, nofap has value, although noporn would be better.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 07:21 PM
26

So beta bob makes money => his wife takes his money => his wife spends the money on bailing out a criminal.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 07:26 AM
1

Don't feel bad, most men need to experience relationships first-hand before the MGTOW message sticks. So how do you plan to fix the "I don't want my girlfriend in my house" situation?
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 08:13 PM
3

That's when she marries a beta, has a kid and divorces her beta. Bam, she's set for another 20 years.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 07:59 PM
4

"Nice life you've got here. Let me change FUCKING EVERYTHING because nothing is more important than accommodating ME simply for its own sake". That's a shit test. She secretly wants you to not accomodate her (much). Of course, the even better approach is MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 07:58 PM
7

You can use the downvote button if you don't like certain posts. Or post content that you do like.
/r/MGTOW22/03/17 07:24 AM
29

Using that folder against men could work. Don't bother using that folder against women.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 06:12 AM
4

While her haircut is awful, many guys are too thirsty to care.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:50 PM
3

Yeah, like Adam and Eve: "once upon a time a woman had everything. So she monkey branched to a seductive badboy snake and ruined her and Adam's life."
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 09:44 AM
4

Nah, she'll still want chad dick afterwards.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 05:53 AM
12

That's the problem with TRP. It tells men "this is female nature, but you can make women act like submissive unicorns if you're, like, really alpha."
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 05:52 AM
3

My personal life experience is that having a reasonable number of sexual partners doesn't harm men, but having a ton of sexual partners does tend to make men miserable and destroy man's ability to pair bond. Chads who bang two different women a week for years tend to be pussy-addicted and tend to get their self worth from their ability to get laid.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 05:34 AM
4

They like being told "you're being bitchy, stop it." They don't like being told "you screwed up and now you'll be miserable and lonely for the rest of your life."
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 10:09 PM
12

"A real woman would shut up and make me a sandwich."
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 07:40 AM
15

Historically women have reproduced ~80% of the time while men only reproduced ~40% of the time. (This is possible because men had multiple wives.) So let's reword the incentives here in terms that are easier to grasp. Suppose you're working in MaleCorp and after the upcoming layoffs only 40% of the employees will remain working there. However, the rewards for top performers are truly astounding: even today about 0.5% of the population is a direct descendant from Genghis Khan. He conceived thousa…
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 07:30 AM
3

It's really sickening to me that women use babies as weapons against men. "I spermjacked you, therefore you must serve as my slave for almost two decades."
/r/MGTOW18/03/17 06:36 AM
19

The democrats are mostly a party that tells upper-middle class people and people on welfare to hate white working people (they're racists! they're a basket of deplorables!). The GOP is mostly a party that tells white working people to hate immigrants ("they work hard for little money and are thus taking your jobs! Also, they simultaneously don't work and the government pays them your tax dollars!") Thus, mainstream politics and the media are trying to get you to hate downwards, to hate people wh…
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 07:52 AM
12

That's the second rule. First rule of dating women is don't.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 06:48 AM
34

Nah, then people would be saying "why should you have to work out with your man if he's lazy? Tell him to start working out alone!"
/r/MGTOW16/03/17 05:39 PM
4

Don't like em, use the downvote button.
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 08:14 PM
21

I know, right? Spelling a lot like "alot" makes my skin crawl.
/r/MGTOW13/03/17 04:47 PM
6

Women have insane expectations nowadays. Just because he's say an 8/10 doesn't mean that he can land 7/10 women.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 10:37 PM
2

Sure, feminism thinks that women would be happy if they'd make more money and get more stuff. But that's simply not consistent with the real-life observation that women's incomes and education level and government assistance has increased while they've gotten unhappier. It's like saying "this food is giving me an allergic reaction. Clearly, the solution is to eat more of it!"
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 09:53 PM
2

It's well-documented that women are becoming unhappier in recent years, e.g. Stevenson and Wolfers discovered that American women rated their overall life satisfaction higher than men in the 1970s. Thereafter, women’s happiness scores decreased while men’s scores stayed roughly stable. By the 1990s, women were less happy than men. In this hypothetical conference, I'd love to hear the mainstream/politically acceptable explanation for women's declining happiness.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 09:08 PM
1

Sexual marketplace value. It's a 1-10 number that says how attractive you are to the opposite sex. A beautiful woman or Brad Pitt has a high SMV while someone who is obese, old and sick has a low SMV.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 07:12 PM
8

True, but there's a male equivalent to "women like men with great careers so they become career women." It's "men like kind, submissive women so they become nice-guy doormats." "That's not a fair comparison, society tells men to become doormats!" Yes, but society also tells women to focus on their careers.
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 02:02 PM
36

Indeed. Women are happy when they submit to a powerful man and raise his children. However: Women don't have to submit to a man nowadays to survive (safety nets, work nowadays is sitting in a office rather than digging coal out of a mine, lack of social shaming if they don't get married). Women are conditioned to not want to submit to a man nowadays (girl power, "you should be a career woman and shatter patriarchy", "men are unreliable so you must be able to earn your own money"). Women can easi…
/r/MGTOW12/03/17 10:43 AM
11

Can you prove that you didn't rape a girl you had sex with last month? No? Guilty.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 07:41 PM
35

War is a racket.
/r/MGTOW11/03/17 06:34 AM
3

Yes it's always been the better deal for women, but it used to be more or less fair. Cooking and washing clothes for say two adults plus four children used to be a decent amount of work. Of course, if every woman would magically turn into a reliable housewife today then it wouldn't be close to fair, because nowadays we have washing machines and fewer children.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 09:40 PM
6

Brad Pitt got divorced. Johnny Depp got divorced. It's women.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 09:07 PM
3

If you are in the top 10%. You are attractive. Yes, plus women overestimate their own attractiveness all the time. So reality: F is a 5/10, M is a 9/10, F should lower her standards. Female perception: F is a 7/10, M is a 5/10, M is beneath her.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 09:03 PM
3

6'3'' and no luck either. Being tall is required but not sufficient.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 09:00 PM
20

good job Having money is not actually attractive to women. Spending money is attractive to women. Going into debt to buy a sports car will get you more attention than saving money for your retirement. So if you really want a girlfriend, which I don't recommend, try spending money irresponsibly.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 08:54 PM
2

But in the old days, you'd get respect, obedience and on-demand sex from your wife in return.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 08:48 PM
13

Single moms.
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 08:01 PM
2

Ha, like the average woman would ever stop to consider what men want.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 07:12 PM
3

what is she actually looking for? $$$
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 07:04 PM
5

Yeah, trade school is a better idea in many cases.
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 07:35 PM
9

"Psychological abuse!"
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 06:09 PM
4

Individual men (sometimes) pay for the raising of individual children because the system we call patriarchy has chosen to make fatherhood about individual ownership. Women have little choice but to go along with this as long as men exploit our labour, restrict our access to material resources and threaten us with violence. Raise your hands: who of you has ever hit a woman because you tried to give her money and she wouldn't take it? No one? Huh.
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 06:03 PM
3

That shows how tempted she was to cheat or leave during those three days.
/r/MGTOW03/03/17 06:43 AM
8

Men try to build an internally consistent model of reality and then try to apply that universally. So if I decide that I value freedom, and I realize I don't like others taking away my freedom, then I conclude that I must not limit other people's freedom. Women do the following instead: Something makes them feel bad => that thing is bad. Something makes them feel good => that thing is good. And that's all there is to it. Women aren't born with a "how would I feel if others treated me like I'm tr…
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 07:30 PM
2

That sucks. Maybe yoga or tai chi or meditation?
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 06:59 PM
2

What women are doing throughout their 20s is the equivalent of eating junkfood (getting pumped and dumped) while carefully avoiding healthy food (stable relationships with boring-but-reliable men). And then they're baffled that they're obese and diabetic in their 30s (unable to be satisfied with a man who actually wants to commit to them.) And if you point out that maybe they should lower their standards, then they refuse to stop eating junkfood.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 06:23 PM
3

Yeah, there is good (as in high-quality/classic) blue-pill rock but there's no good blue-pill rap. Funny how that works.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 06:01 PM
1

I suspect that they haven't even stopped to consider what men would think of that message.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:58 PM
2

I agree. If you allow a child to do anything he wants and after a decade his teeth have rotten away, then I think that's tragic. An adult should have stepped in.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:55 PM
3

Indeed. Here's what big L had to say about women.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:48 PM
3

Do some kind of sport or martial arts. It'll make you feel better and you may make friends there.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:45 PM
6

There's already a single-man-tax. It's just packaged as high general taxes + tax cuts for couples + women-only government benefits (women shelters, etc). The end result is the same.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:38 PM
2

Could a girl ask for anything else? Of course. Translation: when I settle for you at 35 when I'm fat and have children, I'm going be complain and be resentful. We know [chads] don't want to date us; we're not even lying to ourselves anymore! Translation: I'd rather bareback Chad and be ghosted afterwards, risking STDs + becoming a single mom in the process, than having a loving beta provider to myself. That's how little I desire betas. I prommmmise (for real this time) Translation: I'm a liar.
/r/MGTOW02/03/17 05:35 PM
67

See, you can be an amazing partner and she'll still desire other dick. MGTOW is the only way.
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 06:57 PM
2

If you try this yourself, please post about it on this sub.
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 08:05 AM
2

Use double enters (i.e. a complete white line) to get proper formatting.
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 06:19 PM
2

Why did she cheat? She probably got bored.
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 06:18 PM
16

I personally like "a real woman would shut up and make me a sandwich."
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 11:46 PM
28

A broken Chad.
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 06:26 PM
3

Determining if a woman is NAWALT reminds me of the problem of determining if a hypothetical super-AI is friendly or hostile. You basically can't, because even if the AI is hostile, it's in its best interest to act exactly like a friendly AI.
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 06:19 PM
2

It's one thing that women do these things to men, but it's truly heartbreaking that they do it to cats. So even MGTOW consider male lives to be less valuable than that of an animal?
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 05:36 PM
2

Trotsky wanted to actively spread communism around the globe. Stalin had him and his followers purged and Stalin didn't actively wanted to spread socialism abroad.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 04:08 PM
2

India should be in the top 10.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 04:05 PM
1

Keep in mind that % of population refers to the entire population, including men and including 5-year olds. You can check that by accepting literally any 19+ woman not filling in anything and you'll see that even that's <40%. So based on this you shouldn't conclude "85% of adult women are fat or poly."
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 04:03 PM
1

There's always a relevant SMBC.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 03:51 PM
9

I guess the remaining 1/3 are normal? I hope you triggered some people there.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 07:36 AM
6

Society becomes even more insane => more men will check out of marriage => once enough do, society will have to will have to revert their insane laws.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 07:31 AM
7

Very simple solution. Move out of the US to a sane(r) country.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 07:28 AM
14

So some men are unhappy because they get zero pussy which makes them insecure, and some men are unhappy because they drown in pussy and get burnt out. Yay for female hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 08:53 PM
7

We know that: The bottom 60% of men is getting close to zero pussy and the bottom 80% isn't getting much pussy. However, just about all women have huge partner counts. Mathematically this is only possible if, indeed, Chad is getting unbelievable amounts of pussy, all day every day.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 08:46 PM
2

Good advice. Meditation helps too.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 08:43 PM
2

That's often enough, although some men also want: 4) be able and willing to have children. Be a half-decent mom.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:20 PM
2

When they were no longer needed, men were liberated from relationships, education and employment and it turns out that this suits men surprisingly well. Ah yes, another women surprised that men are fine without a woman looking over their should and nagging at them.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:05 PM
6

Thanks feminism. If you hadn't been so unreasonable, I'd be unhappily married right now.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:03 PM
5

Good job staying strong.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 07:05 AM
8

my impression is that redpill is more of a move made from emotional desperation and resentment Five stages of grief: Denial: bluepill. Anger: TRP in the anger phase. Bargaining: TRP in the "lifting and learning game" phase. Depression: TRP in the "now I've got game, but I'm still short and still can't get high-quality women." (Or: "now I've become a man-whore, but I'm finding it to be unfulfilling.") Acceptance: MGTOW. So don't knock TRP, they're a step in the process towards becoming MGTOW. It'…
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 10:39 AM
2

video games have been getting progressively worse Personally I think the quite new Eternal Card Game is awesome. It's basically Magic the Gathering built from the ground up to be an online game. It's also free-to-play.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 10:34 AM
1

See my post here.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:30 AM
2

You're welcome. The 1997 series can be watched here and the 2016 series here. Enjoy!
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:27 AM
3

I haven't watched Cowbob Bebop, but from what I've heard, Faye does shit that should have gotten her kicked off the crew.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:25 AM
2

Death Note is also great. It's focused on two men playing a cat-and-mouse game with each other, each trying to outsmart the other.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:21 AM
1

That looks awesome.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:08 AM
4

I recommend watching the 1997 series and then the 2016 series. Watching the 1997 berserk series first episode has two drawbacks: Berserk is awesome for its storytelling and characterization. The action is okay, but it's from twenty years ago so there's much better combat scenes out there nowadays. However, the first episode is almost exclusively action, featuring a character you don't yet know or care about. If you watch the first episode, you'll likely be underwhelmed at the end of it. The firs…
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:55 PM
3

I recommend watching the 1997 series and then the 2016 series. I consider the remade movie to be worse than the 1997 series and they cover much of the same material. So I'd skip the movie unless you just can't get enough of Berserk (and I wouldn't blame you).
/r/MGTOW19/02/17 10:45 PM
6

I understand the temptation but it's a bad idea. If she sees you getting a good mark while she gets a bad mark using "your" answers, she might turn vindictive and accuse you of rape. She probably won't, but it's not worth the risk.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 08:41 AM
5

If you have the discipline to work hard even with no externally imposed deadlines, externally imposed curriculum and external peer pressure, then skip college. All the material you need is available online and most of your work will consist of "choose something you want to build => start building it => look up documentation and code samples as you go along." If, however, you're an "I'll wait until the deadline is near to get started" kind of guy then studying at home is a bad idea because you yo…
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 08:31 AM
10

I'm happy that most of the higher-ups in my IT company started out as programmers. It makes them reasonable most of the time.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 08:23 AM
1

So the girl, we'll call her Sarah, asks me to study together for this upcoming test. Somewhat related: a coworker of mine recently complained that his wife said "we should clean the house more." So he did his part and then didn't do her part. Lesson learned: "we should..." often means "you should... for me" in female-speak.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 08:22 AM
8

console.write("hello world"); is C# code and not C++ code.
/r/MGTOW18/02/17 08:18 AM
5

Indeed, it's just a shame that most people are too trapped by concepts to experience the sheer pleasure of existence.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 10:48 PM
2

So let's recap. Marx says: a rational employer will only hire someone if he expects to make a profit, therefore it's exploitation. Bohm-Bawerk says: ah, but the employer has to pay the employee before the employee makes anything useful. Plus, the employer bears the risk. My rebuttal to that: so the rational employer will only hire someone if the discounted (to account for paying in advance) expected (to account for risk) profit is greater than the laborer's wage. So capitalist profit is E [Z - X…
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 01:02 PM
2

clown snipers (who are both snipers of clowns and clowns themselves) So a clown clown sniper?
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 07:05 AM
1

All anime is for blue pills. Nah, just the vast majority of it. For instance, in this anime the protagonist swordfighter straight-up tells his female comrade-in-arms around 3:00 that she's too weak, too easily angered and doesn't "belong in a man's war."
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 11:11 PM
2

I wouldn't call the protagonist redpill as fuck. The protagonist often cries, screams and whines. Plus he gets stuck in "attracted to one of his co-adventurers but doesn't act on it" limbo. That being said, the show thankfully doesn't focus on his attraction and he does take refreshingly little shit from females in general. If you want an anime with two redpill as fuck protagonists, go watch 1997 Berserk. The graphics are dated and the story takes a while to get going, but it's still the best an…
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 08:20 PM
2

You can watch it for free http://www.konosubarashii.pw/ It's not a god-tier anime like Deathnote or fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood but it's still worth watching. Expect a combination of fantasy RPG satire, fanservice (occasionally of the cringeworthy kind) and assorted humor.
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 08:00 PM
4

I actually wasn't sarcastic. I don't even like the "heavily-styled short women's haircuts" in the first few pictures, let alone easy-to-maintain men's haircuts.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 10:26 PM
2

Not being stupidly altruistic is not the same as being selfish.
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 10:00 PM
2

Good point, it does look awful on them
/r/MGTOW15/02/17 08:56 PM
12

My mother behaved awfully towards my father and towards her children.
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 04:55 PM
22

No. She'll fuck the man who murdered her husband.
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 04:54 PM
1

Having money or being a psychopath works too.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 09:00 PM
7

It's heartwarming that men are overcoming the typical "haha, virgin!" shaming.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 08:50 PM
4

"Before of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master." Switch the gender and the quote applies.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 07:25 PM
1

I don't see how it's a tangent. The simple truth is that we value female lives over male lives because evolution gave us that bias. Tribes with that bias were simply more successful than tribes without. And we're not going to completely overcome that bias any time soon, even if that bias is indeed irrational nowadays.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 04:18 PM
1

As much as economists like to assume that we're rational actors with perfect information, the truth is that we're barely-evolved, poorly-informed monkeys with biases straight from the stone age.
/r/MGTOW13/02/17 04:03 PM
3

iron clad prenup There's no such thing.
/r/MGTOW12/02/17 08:21 AM
3

Statistically it was a pretty safe guess that a random poster wouldn't be a top-tier man, but you indeed are confident and attractive. I personally am not short but I am ugly, so you're mostly right. Then I'm genuinely puzzled why women aren't freaking out when you tell them that you're going MGTOW. I find it hard to believe that women would honestly go "no more men to extract resources from, guess my life is now filled with work and loneliness, then again I am crazy so I do deserve it. Ah well,…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 10:55 PM
3

Suppose you have ten women and ten men in a stone-age tribe. Now image that you have to sacrifice eight of them in say a war with another tribe. Who should you sacrifice? Well, you want to keep baby production as high as you can so you want to keep the women safe (plus the women would be lousy in a stone-age war anyway). So you sacrifice eight of the men, keeping the strong and tall guys so that they can hunt and fight. (Or, alternatively, only the strong and tall men will survive the war.) Thos…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 09:18 PM
0

To be fair, averages tend to be heavily influenced by a few rich people spending insane amounts of money. It's more accurate in this case to look at the median. If you google median wedding cost you find that in 2012 the average was ~$27k while the median was ~$18k. Still absurd, still yet another great reason to not get married, but let's at least use the more appropriate number.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 08:45 PM
9

I'm picturing blue hair actually.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 08:30 PM
8

Here's a taste.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 08:28 PM
7

After her sister died, my mom temporarily went insane and engaged in reckless behavior that endangered her and her two children between ages 5 and 8. My father got her to stop doing that. So she blamed him for her actions and, partially because of that, divorced him (naturally getting custody every 6 out of 7 days). Even twenty years later she still blames him. Remember, gents, AWALT. Even your mother.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 08:18 PM
2

Voltaire: "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise"
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 07:51 PM
4

The only statement on that list that may not always be true for women is expecting sex on demand. It's true for most women because if she wants sex, she won't accept a man's "no" calmly. Instead, she'll get become sad, angry, start crying, ask if you still love her, start demanding sex even if the man doesn't feel like it, give him the silent treatment, etc. Flip the genders. Would feminists consider it borderline abusive if a woman said "no" to her husband's desire for sex and the husband regul…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 07:04 PM
3

This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 06:55 PM
6

By this definition, close to 100% of american men (or women for that matter) are abusive. What man has never shouted, never sulked, never glared, never wheedled, never relied on someone else for their wellbeing and never blamed someone/something else? And even if you somehow never did any of that, women can still rules-lawyer you into the abuser role by interpreting these already overly broad statements even more broadly. "While I was working, he handed me a cup of tea. He stopped me from workin…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 06:48 PM
7

No, thanks for the post. Your fourth paragraph was well-written and made me reorder a few concepts in my head. And yes, okay, a 50 to 70 year old woman who is simply flat broke might indeed settle for a 5/10 men or worse. And I do agree that the number of MGTOWers (even though most don't call themselves that) is skyrocketing. The west will have something like Japan's herbivore men in the future and then women will really start freaking out.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 01:34 PM
11

You may be right about the gay thing. Still, if I understand you correctly, you're saying "many men are MGTOW or MGTOW-ish, and therefore women can't find 5/10 provider men to settle down with and therefore women are desperate." But while the number of men who go MGTOW is rising rapidly, the total number isn't that high yet. Yes, it will be a problem for women in the future and women should be worried about that now, but it's not why women are upset about right now. Right now they're upset becau…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 12:41 PM
16

The bottom say 70% of men have had so few relations that they're ready the marry the first women who'll look at them. You don't have to try to convince those guys to get married. So instead, I think that the "men, get married" articles are aimed at the top say 30% of men. Women can bear marrying those men without feeling too disgusted by them and those men have enough options that they're not automatically getting married to the first woman who crosses his path. Of course, 90% of women trying to…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 11:09 AM
13

There already is a bachelor tax. It's just packaged as high general taxes and tax breaks for married couples, but the net result is the same: higher taxes for bachelors. So if they want to 'increase bachelor tax' further they'll just increase general taxes and increase tax breaks for married people even more.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 11:03 AM
23

No offense, but the reason why women aren't freaked out by you telling them "I'm not dating women" is because you probably aren't a top-10% men. So they don't really want you anyway. You dropping out of the dating pool at most costs them a backup plan. If we'd somehow have men like Brad Pitt openly going MGTOW then women would definitely freak out.
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 10:46 AM
3

I don't like Hillary at all and wouldn't have voted for her if I was an American. Still, I don't think she's a national socialist. What definition of national socialism are you using? While some parts of national socialism fit, such as a willingness to wage war and state-provided healthcare, many other parts of Wikipedia don't really apply to Hillary: "The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics." People aren't accusing Hillary of being too right-wing. "N…
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 05:17 PM
9

It works if you abolish monogamy. If every 10% man takes 10 women, then the math works out. And indeed, humans were polygamous for most of our evolution. The only problem with this is that the 90% of men won't be motivated to work very hard, leading to a severe economic downturn.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 11:04 PM
2

Ah, cool that you also reached the "about one guy on earth qualifies" number independently. That makes me more confident in my calculation. Great minds indeed think alike.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 05:29 PM
1

Does the guy from 50 Shades of Gray even qualify for this? You know something is wrong when even a fictional character designed to make women wet doesn't qualify. He doesn't, Christian Grey has gray eyes.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 05:24 PM
6

0.0004 * 100% = 0.04%. It's the same thing, just written out in a different way.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 08:17 AM
38

The sad thing is that both men and women are suffering from the current dysfunctional gender relationships. All this heartache just seems so unnecessary. Both genders would be better off with more traditional gender roles and less institutional bias towards women (and thus more incentive for them to marry and stay faithful).
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 12:27 AM
3

Sounds like she wants someone smarter than her. That's a given. Men have no chance with women that have the same education level and income that they do.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 12:13 AM
7

I did the math and one to two guys worldwide should fit her criteria.
/r/MGTOW07/02/17 12:07 AM
28

There are 130k men in the entire U.S. who are 6''6' or taller, which is 130k / ~320 million which is about 0.04%. So she's saying "I just want a man who..." and the very first of her list of demands already eliminates 99.96% of men. Then factor in green eyes, which is ~2% of the population. Christian is 70% of Americans. Smart is say 20% of Americans. Rich is say 1% of Americans. Then there's a bunch of demands that are harder to qualify, but put all of them together and let's say 2% of the popu…
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 11:31 PM
12

So when she was young and not a single mom, she only had enough sexual market value to get what she calls an average guy. What made her think that once she was older and a single mom, and thus with decreased sexual market value, she'd suddenly snag a top-tier man? From another point of view: why does she think that top-tier men will want single moms at all? It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that women let the lies of other women override their common sense. Or even just ask any ma…
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 05:41 PM
3

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 04:07 PM
19

The flaw in your argument is that you're assuming that 100% of men are redpillers who are willing to let single women and their children suffer. In reality, 99% of men are bluepill. As soon as they see single women and their children genuinely struggling, they'll accept any measures to help out "the children." No one will be able to successfully argue the "let children go hungry" position and thus we'll have either massive deficits or massive bachelor taxes.
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 10:54 PM
8

Look, women are going to keep being knocked up and men are going to continue paying for their children. With 99% of men being bluepill, that's just the way the world works. As soon as a few single moms start crying that their children are hungry, society will bend over backwards to accommodate them one way or the other. So if you actually got this law passed, then what would happen is that the safety net for women would be vastly expanded, with a huge bachelor tax paying for it. No thank you. At…
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 10:51 PM
3

And if you take a sex vacation to south-east asia, you can get hookers for far less than that. Even in Amsterdam and Germany hookers are cheaper than that.
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 05:27 PM
1

I don't have any new arguments to offer. My conclusion is that we disagree about two fundamental points: You believe that consciousness gives humans a fundamental advantage over AIs that will never be overcome, while I believe that humans merely have a head start but nothing more than that. You believe that we can tell McDonalds workers, Walmart employees, truck drivers, factory/assembly line workers, call center workers, dock workers, farmhands, etc to find new jobs and most of them will be abl…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 11:01 PM
2

what holds them back is their primitive learning mechanisms. We've progressed far from the days of giving AIs explicit instructions. Nowadays we teach them to learn by themselves and they do an excellent job at it. So good, in fact, that a machine beat one of the best Go players in the world recently. So the AI learned how to play Go better than all or almost all humans who have ever lived. What do you mean, primitive learning mechanism? Machines are not creative. Yes they are. Here's a song wri…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 10:02 PM
3

You're quite right, but you're merely describing the case in which machines take, say, half our jobs. And indeed, most 50-year old truck drivers aren't going to become top-notch engineers once automation kicks in (and even if they would, we don't actually need hundreds of millions of engineers). While that would be highly disruptive already, there's also the possibility that machines will simply become far smarter than any human who has ever lived. Robots might become better at programming than …
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 08:38 PM
4

There's a possible future in which we won't need human coders or engineers at all. The future might see robots building robots and robots programming robots. Computers might even do innovation better than humans could ever hope to. That's part of what Elon Musk meant when he said that there’s a “pretty good chance” that automation will entirely replace workers in the future Now that might not happen, but if it does, we'll be as obsolete as horses are today in comparison to cars. It doesn't matte…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 08:25 PM
6

Is there a law of economics that says "no matter how good cars become, most horses will always be able to compete against them"? There's no such law, is there? In fact, once cars became good enough, horses became obsolete and as a result the horse population shrank dramatically. Well, neither is there a law of economics that says "no matter how good machines become, most humans will always be able to compete against them." A few will, yes, but 35% of the workforce isn't going to make a living as…
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 08:15 PM
8

Suppose, for the sake of argument, that UBI indeed doesn't work. Then what's the solution to mass job loss due to job offshoring and automation? Even if you think Trump will somehow reverse the first, then the second will still occur. So what should we do if a huge percentage simply can't find jobs no matter how motivated they are? Give a huge amount of people welfare? That's a bad solution. Let them starve? You'll have a revolution.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 02:50 PM
2

Pst, not everyone on the left is a lazy, unemployed welfare abuser. That's about as absurd as saying that everyone on the right is a racist.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 02:46 PM
3

And once men realize that a girl's stated number should now be multiplied by, oh, 14, more of them will go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW02/02/17 07:15 AM
46

"A real woman would shut up and make me a sandwich."
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 05:41 PM
9

So we're supposed to feel sorry for them because they're delusional?
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 07:14 AM
2

Studying medicine makes sense, because a woman will meet many high-quality men there: they're doctors-in-training. That's where the idea of "studying = better mate" comes from. However, gender studies doesn't make sense because few to no high-quality men study that.
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 05:35 PM
2

Oh please. The only two options we realistically have is 1) women extract resources from one individual man and 2) women extract resources from the male collective via taxes. This is what the traditional vs liberal woman discussion is about: both want to extract resources from men, they just want to go about it differently (see above).
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 05:11 PM
6

You say you disagree, but your elaboration seems to indicate (to me at least) that we actually agree. Maybe this clears up some confusion: I'm not saying that women expect oppression and systematic violence because they're used to it. I'm saying that they're born with a very active "oppression scanner" that used to have real things to detect and now doesn't, making it go crazy.
/r/MGTOW22/01/17 03:58 PM
1

"Your happiness is making me question my decision to get married. Ruin your life for me so that I can stop this annoying introspection."
/r/MGTOW22/01/17 12:30 PM
82

You know how it's freaky when you're walking through a forest and there's not a single sound? It's not like you want to be hearing a wolf's howl nearby, but still... no sound at all is eerie, especially if you've convinced yourself that there really are dangerous animals around. After some time of this, maybe you start hallucinating some sound or danger. This is basically modern women: society is so safe and agreeable to them that it's freaking them out. They can't detect any oppression or syste…
/r/MGTOW22/01/17 07:46 AM
7

You know how it's freaky when you're walking through a forest and there's not a single sound? It's not like you want to be hearing a wolf's howl nearby, but still... no sound at all is eerie. After some time of this, maybe you start hallucinating some sound or danger. This is basically modern women: society is so safe and agreeable to them that it's freaking them out. They can't detect any oppression or systematic violence against them, even though they're programmed to continuously scan for tha…
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 09:13 PM
1

That's right.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 08:56 PM
1

The problem is that if you have average genes and don't use steroids, then you won't have a jaw-dropping physique no matter how good your program or products are. People's idea of how ripped the average guy becomes after a year of bodybuilding is simply wrong. So if you're an average guy with an actually great bodybuilding program or product, you have two choices: don't use steroids, but then you'll lose to the fake natty with the bad program; or become a fake natty yourself.
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 08:54 PM
7

There must be some woman out there with higher quality genes than her, willing to bear her child and then give it to her for adoption once it's born. That would be a great option if all she cares about is raising a healthy child, right?
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 09:27 AM
7

Ah yes. Everyone knows that if hospitals accidentally switch babies, then women respond with "I did a careful comparison and it seems like that kid's mother has better genes than I do. So no problem, let me take this other child home and raise it. I just want a healthy child, after all."
/r/MGTOW21/01/17 07:23 AM
5

has any one ever touched this man's penis? This is both a change of topic and a shaming tactic! Now that's one efficient hamster.
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 03:41 PM
6

"I won't cook or clean or work or make babies, but you still get to work your ass off for me!" No ma'am. Can't say shit when women abandon their traditional gender roles, but men abandoning theirs? Now that's a problem.
/r/MGTOW19/01/17 08:26 PM
7

I was baffled at how incredibly obvious women are at breaking their own rules. Rules that the farmer makes for her cattle don't apply to the farmer herself, silly. Your mistake is in thinking that women treat men as humans.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 02:37 AM
3

(G)
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 09:57 AM
5

I'll buy you a beer if we ever meet IRL, then. Cheers.
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 09:36 AM
5

Awesome post. I'd give you gold if I wasn't broke.
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 09:15 AM
13

some against marriage, some for it Women right now are trying to decide if they want to be served in the traditional way, by one male slave personally; or if they want to be served in the new way, by an abstract state-male via welfare. But both camps advocate for men serving women.
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 08:45 AM
1

I prefer option 3: jerk off without porn. It's much less bad for your brain and pretty easy once you're used to it.
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 12:03 AM
2

I don't advocate banning porn, but I do think that porn is often harmful to its viewers. Simply put, studies show that getting huge dopamine spikes all the time from viewing porn isn't good for you: More porn use correlated with less grey matter in the reward circuit (dorsal striatum). This also makes sense from a common sense perspective. Suppose you're a well-fed caveman who has many beautiful, naked women visiting him daily. Why would you then ever leave your cave? You might get eaten by a be…
/r/MGTOW15/01/17 12:00 AM
8

I'm actually thankful for feminism. If it wasn't so clearly and blatantly hostile to men, I might have had a girlfriend by now.
/r/MGTOW14/01/17 11:48 PM
2

Here
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 10:17 PM
25

Plus, credit to the poster for having the self respect to tell her not to come over at the end of the night.
/r/MGTOW10/01/17 08:36 AM
1

I'm not sure that you need to lose weight before you can join the military, but if you do, this might be helpful. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW09/01/17 08:10 PM
1

Porn addiction is real and dangerous. Read up on it, then stop using porn. Once you've ditched porn, you can either masturbate one or two times every week without porn, or you can go full nofap.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 11:20 PM
1

The real world options to avoid this are, date younger women, date super religious women, date extremely shy/introverted women, or date less attractive women. Another option is dating autistic women/women with Asperger. Some relatively mild forms of autism aren't hugely disruptive to everyday life and cause the woman to behave in a more introverted and slightly more logical way. After all, there's a "autism is basically having an extremely masculine brain" theory. That being said, not all autist…
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 01:14 PM
8

Most women you meet who seem different only seem different. And even if you find a woman who really is different, there's no guarantee that she won't turn into a lazy nagging fatass once she's secured your commitment.
/r/MGTOW08/01/17 01:05 PM
34

Great article. A really insightful bit of it is: Most of the anti-feminist battle is not going to be between men and women... it is going to be between women who want a "traditional man" and those who want a collective "government husband." In both cases the women are advocating for men to take care of women - with little concern for the man's wants and needs - one wants a personal slave to serve her & her offspring, while the other wants a slave class to serve women and their offspring in gener…
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 10:16 PM
2

While I wouldn't touch her with a ten-foot pole, there are plenty of older, fatter and more demanding women around. It wouldn't surprise me if she really was in the 50th percentile of female attractiveness.
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 06:14 PM
77

There's a third option: use TRP's "agree and amplify" trick to deal with shit tests (and feminism is a shit test). So agree with the pay gap myth to such an extent that it becomes ridiculous, for instance by arguing that "you feel that" women are inherently worth twice as much as men, which means that the actual pay gap is 178% and not 78%. Then suggest absurdly over-the-top countermeasures, such as fining companies for every single man they hire ("sexism is so entrenched that we can only fight …
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 05:37 PM
3

Many women have very fragile egos.
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 08:27 PM
5

‘What about you?’ I asked, attempting to turn defence into attack. ‘Who would you throw out, me or the children?’ Jessica didn’t even hesitate. ‘You,’ she replied. ‘Obviously.’
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 08:41 AM
8

I imagine that's where "women have been systematically oppressed for centuries right up to the present day" comes from. While that's crazy, you either have to accept that or "the reason that women have been underperforming compared to men since time immemorial is because they're women." And many people are simply aren't willing to accept the latter.
/r/MGTOW31/12/16 12:11 PM
4

TRP was really useful for me as a transition step between the bluepill and MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 06:04 PM
3

It's sexist to accuse someone of mansplaining. After all, women by definition can't mansplain.
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 06:01 PM
1

I can't live this girl-power lifestyle that I believe in. If you can't bear to live like that, then why do you still believe in the girl-power lifestyle?
/r/MGTOW30/12/16 08:06 AM
3

"If a man feels he has paid enough taxes, he should be exempt from further taxation."
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 07:06 PM
1

It's indeed weird that there are no faces without makeup.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 07:35 PM
7

For women, the bottom 80% of men are invisible. So she's only writing to top-tier alpha men, trying to convince them to settle down with her.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 06:22 PM
4

"Your friends are single and happy? Why don't you become married and miserable? And once you're trapped, be sure to convince your friends to follow your example."
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 06:19 PM
15

I agree that men perform much better in both chess and programming (and just about every other field) than women. I think we can agree that there are (very) few, but not zero, noteworthy female programmers or computer scientists.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 06:16 PM
1

In caveman times, children died all the freaking time. Even women themselves often died during childbirth. So genes mattered back then.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 06:12 PM
1

There are many predefined versions you can choose from. Or you can choose your favorite parts.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 06:09 PM
11

Prenups often get thrown out in court. Don't get married.
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 06:08 PM
7

Marginal, yes, but I think negligible is a bit too harsh. Here's one example of a woman being lead Apollo flight software designer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(scientist) .
/r/MGTOW28/12/16 05:54 PM
3

For modern women, 25-35 is relatively little. Many women have triple-digit partner counts.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 11:44 PM
1

About two-thirds of people have herpes, so it's a good option.
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 10:10 AM
6

To be fair, you could read "consent can be revoked at any point" in two ways: One, "I want to be able to give consent before and during sex and then claim rape afterwards, so I don't like to sign consent." This is happening and has happened to men, yet obviously this is an insane viewpoint. Two, "I want to be able to give consent before sex, change my mind during sex, clearly inform my partner of that, stop having sex and then not claim rape afterwards. So I don't like to sign consent." This is …
/r/MGTOW27/12/16 08:15 AM
4

She still could get a beta bucks, even now.
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:57 PM
20

I hated the fact Matthew was suddenly putting another woman before me. How dare she come between us! Over the next few weeks, I'm ashamed to say I vented my spleen at both of them in a series of heated phone calls. I was completely irrational. I didn't want Matthew back, but felt upstaged by Sara. At least she realizes, with the benefit of hindsight, that she was crazy. don't mistake contentment for unhappiness, as I did. This is actually pretty insightful. It would explain why women seem to be …
/r/MGTOW26/12/16 08:51 PM
7

The problem is that society constantly tells men that 1) sex is mind-blowingly awesome and 2) they're losers if they don't get sex. Yes, if you've gotten laid a lot you'll realize that's bullshit, but you can't know that sex isn't actually life-altering until you've done it a couple of times.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 11:32 AM
1

Dildos don't pay for women either, yet dildos are plenty popular.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 12:46 AM
8

That's not irony. There have been studies indicating that women give higher grades to girls than to men for the same work.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 12:45 PM
1

His handwriting is actually readable. That puts him ahead of most people I know.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 08:26 AM
8

I used to be egalitarian too. Now I treat men with kindness and respect and women with indifference and occasional semi-friendly mockery. The most fucked up thing is that women are nicer and more helpful to me now than they were when I was nice to them.
/r/MGTOW24/12/16 08:21 AM
12

Women are scared much more easily. Also, while men tend to suck up their fear, women tend to loudly demand attention for their feelings. So women would still demand much more attention despite having less actual problems nowadays.
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 06:10 PM
8

It's partially that they can't address the real issues, but it's likely also partially that they have more fun circlejerking at some over-the-top-TRP posts than they have looking up actual statistics.
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 06:05 PM
10

Rape by deception, eh? So a chick who wears makeup or lies about her having a boyfriend or lies about you being her first sexual partner is guilty of rape?
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 11:01 PM
1

He does write some good stuff at times. I've learned things from him in the past.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 04:06 PM
1

We're not hurting you. We're touching your wounds, and that's hurting you.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 03:53 PM
9

I see TRP as being stuck in the bargaining phase of grief: "Yeah AWALT, but what if I become, like, really alpha?" After that, you either move to denial (PUA) or to acceptance (MGTOW).
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 03:40 PM
3

MGTOW tends to be libertarian, yes, but there's no rule that says that you have to be libertarian to be MGTOW. I don't agree with many viewpoints of the left, but I do agree with their viewpoint that climate change is a problem, so inside the voting booth I do tend to grit my teeth and vote for the green party. (And no, I'm not American.)
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 08:25 AM
8

Yeah, the decentralized nature of MGTOW is a great way to stop it from being corrupted. TRP says "don't follow societal rules A and B, instead follow rules C and D (say, lift and always hold frame)." Of course, those concrete rules and the people high in the hierarchy can easily change over time, thus changing the entire movement 1 inch at a time. MGTOW says "don't follow societal rules or pressures, especially the societal pressure to get married. Instead, do whatever the fuck you want." That's…
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 08:17 AM
12

I do appreciate the brotherly/familial love in this sub. It's quite rare elsewhere on reddit. Have a great day, my brother. I wish you and everyone reading this all the best.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 08:11 AM
6

I don't care if other people think I'm right. I'm MGTOW for the personal freedom. Though you're likely right that some MGTOW still seek other people's approval.
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 08:09 AM
4

Having a single mom as a parent is very harmful to children. What well put together woman would intentionally harm her children this way?
/r/MGTOW20/12/16 09:52 PM
2

Read this.
/r/MGTOW20/12/16 05:51 PM
11

This is a serious fucking problem, and needs to end rather quickly. Unfortunately automation, offshoring jobs, etc are all going to get worse before they gets better. We've become a nation of salesmen/peddlers of foreign countries' goods, and it is reducing our masculinity. Indeed. As Frank Sobotka from The Wire said: "We used to make shit in this country, build shit. Now we just put our hand in the next guy's pocket."
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 08:17 PM
7

What are mgtow thoughts on dakimakuras and plastic anime figures? Do whatever the fuck you want. You like plastic anime figures? Have at it. You like body pillows with anime girls on them? Sure, sleep with those if you like them. The whole point of MGTOW is that you shouldn't let society tell you how to live your life. MGTOW isn't here to say "don't follow rules A and B; follow rules C and D instead." Rather, MGTOW is here to tell you "make your own rules." I'd follow the non-aggression principl…
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 08:04 PM
1

If you ever get bored of mtg online or are too broke to play it, try eternal card game. It's a free-to-play magic variant that's built from the ground up to be an online game, made by some (ex)-magic pro players.
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 08:00 PM
15

It's also what 99% of women do. Piss a woman off and she'll almost always withhold sex, thus using it as a tool to domesticate you.
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 07:56 PM
6

why the hell does she feel the need to shower when he seems to not give a shit. And even if we accept "I can't have sex without showering first" as legitimate, then there's still the question "so why aren't you jumping into the shower right now so that we can have sex afterwards?"
/r/MGTOW19/12/16 07:50 PM
6

Maybe someone on here has some ideas about getting back to a simpler life. We've evolved to live in groups of up to 150 people. Contrary to popular belief, those groups weren't barter-based: because everyone knew each other, everything was shared freely within the group. If someone acquired a beautiful necklace, everyone would get a turn to wear that necklace sooner or later. See the book Debt: the First 5000 Years for details. The problem, of course, is that as soon as your group exceeds about …
/r/MGTOW18/12/16 04:45 PM
2

Humans have one other advantage: we're really good at long-distance running, because we can sweat and can use our arms to carry water. Stone-age hunting might literally have been running after animals for hours until they can't move anymore. It's indeed interesting to think about. Thanks for the post.
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 11:32 AM
3

no biological explanation would explain a preference for lower (or average) intelligence, which it definitely seems to be the case for western females at least. A stone-age woman could tell a dumb man "go kill Grok, take his stuff and give it to me." That same stone-age woman may not be able to convince a smart man to do the same.
/r/MGTOW15/12/16 10:57 AM
2

She probably is lying, but to play devil's advocate: maybe she writes from home and has zero travel time. Technically 8 hours of sleep + 8 hours of work + 2 hours of exercise still leaves 6 hours for eating, cooking, bathroom breaks, etc which could work.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:49 PM
3

The world as it is, is at least 50% of their making. Stefan Molyneux would argue that it's closer to 100%.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:45 PM
6

Women merely see men as tools, remember? That's not just a figure of speech: I resolved to steal his sperm from him in the middle of the night. I thought it was my right, given that he was living with me and I had bought him many, many M&S ready meals. While you're at it, go watch Gone Girl. That'll shatter the female spell a bit further.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:36 PM
9

Indeed. I'm actually happy that marriage is so utterly unfair to men nowadays. If it was only slightly unfair, I might actually have married someone by now.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:27 PM
6

Something something patriarchy something something internalized misogyny. There, all better.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:15 PM
1

It is not men who sabotage women and stump their career growth - it is women themselves!
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 08:12 PM
2

Reminds me of this.
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 07:54 PM
4

Or just read this. You too can get laid by asking "anal?" and then "#?" as long as you're a 10/10 in looks!
/r/MGTOW07/12/16 07:45 PM
3

Yeah I'm doing nofap too. It's tough but rewarding. Stay strong, brother.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 09:22 PM
3

What they actually mean is "betas shouldn't interact with me at all and alphas should hit on me every chance they get." But being honest about that might chase the betas away from the farm.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 09:19 PM
3

Either way, the fact that women feel unsafe when they’re out running in public is directly attributable to men. No, women feeling unsafe is directly attributable to women feeling unsafe. You can't fix vague feelings of discomfort by demanding that change their behavior. Instead, take concrete steps to improve your own emotions, e.g. meditation. Give us a wide berth when you’re passing and share the footpath. Even better, step off to the side. LOL. Stop murdering us. Not that I'd ever murder anyo…
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 09:13 PM
16

Also, from a biological/caveman perspective, a woman rejecting a man is saying "you're not worth 10+ years of my life, which sex may cost me." Fair enough. On the other hand, a man rejecting a woman is saying "you're not worth about 200 calories, which sex may cost me." That's much harsher.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 08:24 PM
3

Post this on TwoX and see how often you're called a psycho: "I'm going to write a book about surrendered men, who relinquish inappropriate control of their wives and don't try to control them. What do you think about this new approach to relationships?"
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 06:28 PM
1

The system is rigged against me. There's no way I'm winning. There's also no losing if I don't compete. "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play." After reading so many posts on here on a 5 hour marathon, I've lost complete interest in women. No, I'm not just saying it for the sake saying something. It's like this: I have a favorite porn clip that gets me hard every single time. It did nothing to me.... not yesterday...not today. I was indifferent to the bitch's moan and cry and org…
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 05:47 PM
7

The story of your enslavement.
/r/MGTOW04/12/16 05:35 PM
3

http://www.tinderseduction.com/male-model-tinder-case-study/ is another test pointing in the same direction.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 07:52 AM
3

For science, let's reproduce the experiment. Oh hey, who'd have thought, we get the same results.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 07:51 AM
12

Remember this the next time a drop-dead handsome guy gives you dating advice or says that getting laid is easy.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 07:48 AM
6

Who cares.
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 09:40 PM
3

Meditation is the single best habit you can pick up. Do it every single day for (when you're starting out) about ten minutes. Eventually, after a long time, it'll make that empty feeling go away. Not sure if I should pursue martial arts, I mean I could either save $10,000 or earn a blackbelt in 4 years, and most places these days are mcdojos. Find a real dojo and then do pursue martial arts. This will also solve/alleviate your need for companionship and get you in shape. Alternatively, join a ne…
/r/MGTOW29/11/16 08:47 AM
1

I like ublock origin.
/r/MGTOW28/11/16 07:35 PM
2

It depends, once the woman hits the wall, if the man stays relatively attractive and healthy enough he can still provide, the chances are she's not going to be able to get any better. That's what should happen in theory and that's what's in the woman's best interest. But what's frequently happening in reality is that she dumps a top-tier man even though he's the best she can get.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 12:10 PM
17

Besides, hypergamy doesn’t go on forever. Usually, the impulse to find a higher quality mate stops once a woman has found a man with (what she subjectively perceives to be) an SMV 1-3 points above her own. Women stop acting on their hypergamous impulse when they feel they can’t do better. That used to be true but Tinder and similar sites have made hypergamy explode beyond the point of reason. Even top-tier men like Brad Pitt are getting divorced nowadays.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 11:48 AM
1

Because most men are vulnerable to shaming and most women shame men for using prostitutes.
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 07:13 AM
17

if I were to do it again, I'd definitely employ men. In fact, I'd probably employ only men.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 04:49 PM
7

Women of America, suck and Women not born in the bubble (...) those women actually know what life is. They truly appreciate men. AWALT. Don't drop your guard just because some woman is from the second or third world.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 06:37 PM
13

People STILL haven't figured out why men are opting out of work and family...
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 06:11 PM
1

I literally control-F'd "projection" as soon as I read the OP. /r/mgtow doesn't disappoint.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 10:36 AM
3

The American psycho movie was directed by a woman.
/r/MGTOW20/11/16 04:34 PM
3

I cannot wrap my head why women seem to have abandoned this. I don't think women have ever loved giving emotional support to temporarily weak men, but it's true that nowadays they have absolutely zero patience for it. Maybe it's because women have Tinder nowadays, which supercharges their hypergamy. Every time I get stressed out about something I talk to a trusted friend about it and it's like a weight has been lifted. That's what friends are for. Talking about your problems with male friends is…
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 06:14 PM
7

You want emotional support, you get a dog.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 05:53 PM
7

Emotional support Never going to happen.
/r/MGTOW17/11/16 04:59 PM
2

Also see this. Trump's already averted WW3 by not being Hillary.
/r/MGTOW16/11/16 07:04 AM
1

That's not a stupid question. I don't know if there's a consensus on that issue but here's my take: I don't believe men are inherently more intelligent. I do, however, think that: Women are less motivated to work hard because they can always fail at their job, become a house-wife and have a good life. It's really easy for a woman to get married to a decent provider, at which point she's set for life. Only her own hypergamy (her desire to marry up) and her desire to fuck whoever she wants are obs…
/r/MGTOW16/11/16 07:01 AM
18

And so women's hamsters have yet another excuse to do what they were going to do anyway.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 08:35 PM
1

If you have specific criticism of this subreddit, let's hear it.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 08:33 PM
1

But yeah, all these guys who still buy into the whole "just act confident" thing are delusional. An unattractive guy who acts confidently is called a creep.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 07:16 AM
2

Sex robots are far away, but having sex with sex dolls is apparently as physically pleasurable as having sex with a real woman nowadays. Sure, you don't get the ego boost from nailing a real woman, but you don't have to use a condom, worry about stds, pregnancy, her being crazy, etc.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 07:14 AM
4

/r/botsrights will hear of this.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 07:05 AM
6

It's the single best habit I have. Greatly recommended. One tip is that meditation works as long as you sit down and make an honest effort. Even if you get nothing but monkey mind (aka all sorts of thoughts come up), even then meditation is beneficial.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 07:00 AM
1

See this and this. tl;dr: I know that depression really sucks but don't take them.
/r/MGTOW14/11/16 08:13 AM
2

If you get an erection, tighten one or more muscles (such as your thigh muscles) and keep them tight. After a minute or so, the blood will flow from your penis to your muscles.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:22 PM
4

Stop encouraging women to post here.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 03:20 PM
9

A woman rejected me a few years ago in my blue pill days. I bet that if she could see me now she'd want me, but now I don't want her anymore. She should have locked me down when she had the chance, but fortunately for me she didn't.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 10:45 AM
1

One option is to tell her or imply that you're gay. Bonus points: all the other females won't try to hit on you in the future either.
/r/MGTOW13/11/16 06:51 AM
3

Related article.
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 05:48 PM
23

Trump's an unknown quantity. People are projecting all their wishes on to him, but the truth is that we simply don't yet know how his presidency is going to turn out. That being said, he's not Hillary and Hillary would have been a disaster. So that's a plus, but that doesn't automatically mean that Trump is going to fix all our problems.
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 05:41 PM
3

Lie detectors are notoriously unreliable. I can certainly believe a woman cheating, but this doesn't prove that.
/r/MGTOW12/11/16 03:19 PM
25

53% of white women voted Trump. I still can't decide if they came to their senses or if they simply wanted to be led by the rich alpha guy because that's their nature.
/r/MGTOW11/11/16 07:39 AM
4

I'm not sure if I'd agree with it, but the cynical rebuttal here would be "they did vote with their vaginas and their vaginas wanted a rich alpha man."
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 07:51 AM
2

Don't you mean 1600 instead of 16000? While 1600 is bad enough, it's hard for me to imagine Obamacare making someone pay 16k per month.
/r/MGTOW10/11/16 07:49 AM
1

Women see themselves as farmers and see men as cattle. Yes, men/cattle are stronger and do most of the physical labor, yet the woman/farmer still sees herself as superior.
/r/MGTOW09/11/16 06:36 AM
36

Indeed. The real struggle is rich psychopathic oligarchs vs the rest of us.
/r/MGTOW09/11/16 06:01 AM
1

Even from the top 20% of men, women don't really seem to understand the hard work that went into building their fortunes, bodies, confidence, etc.
/r/MGTOW09/11/16 05:58 AM
8

It's made by a feminist woman who got some of the inspiration from the movie from her purple-pill boyfriend. She starts the movie off not agreeing with the red pill/MRAs/MGTOW and mostly agrees with it at the end of the movie.
/r/MGTOW06/11/16 07:21 AM
2

Polygraphs are incredibly unreliable.
/r/MGTOW05/11/16 07:01 PM
2

"There has never been a protracted war from which a country has benefited." - Sun Tzu
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 06:57 AM
6

Muslim countries were incredibly successful. Christian Europe used to be a backwater and the islamic middle east used to be the rich, powerful, technologically advanced part of the west. Islam spread incredibly quickly and conquered the eastern roman empire (Byzantium) and they nearly conquered central Europe (Vienna). Roughly speaking Islam was more powerful than Christianity from the 7th to the 16th century (Islam was created in the 7th century), and Christianity was more powerful from the 16t…
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 06:45 AM
1

C++ will be very hard if you're just starting out with coding though. If you get stuck, there's no shame in learning C# or Java first. For many applications, C# or Java are actually preferred.
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 06:18 AM
4

Killing someone with your car while you're drunk is worse than killing someone with your car while sober.
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 05:29 PM
2

You're welcome, brother. I hope it helps.
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 04:46 PM
1

screens off about three minutes before bed, No, screens off a few hours before bed. Or at least use f.lux
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 04:31 AM
2

What she means is: "betas should stop catcalling me" / "why aren't alphas catcalling me?" So it's not actually a contradiction when you break it down, but she does suck at communication (and likely self-awareness).
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 05:29 AM
3

I wouldn't mind women catcalling me, even crudely.
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 06:25 PM
13

The modus operandi of women is to make men suffer in their place. They're annoyed that there's no way to delegate the pain of childbirth to men.
/r/MGTOW29/10/16 04:24 PM
48

She realizes that many of the men who did try to get to know her genuinely and who she so ruthlessly annihilated; could have been a perfect man for her. Indeed and deep down woman are aware of this. I once heard a woman say: "I'm scared that I've met the man of my dreams already and that I told him to fuck off."
/r/MGTOW29/10/16 03:03 PM
2

Good question, I don't know the answer but that sounds plausible.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 05:11 AM
4

Here.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 04:36 PM
4

These hoes ain't loyal - Pakistani kids.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 04:32 PM
13

It's an old, old female fantasy. They used to call that "being ravished."
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 04:31 PM
1

I agree that people shouldn't care about the opinions of others, but in reality, 99% of men do. So even if you were to legalize prostitution worldwide, then that still wouldn't fix the issues (although it'd help slightly).
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 04:25 PM
21

Indeed. While rape is horrible, I'd still rather get raped than murdered.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 01:11 PM
2

This law treats everyone the same, instead of handling each case uniquely.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 09:18 AM
3

Logically, yes, but some men (myself not included) feel really uncomfortable when a gay man hits on them.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 09:16 AM
6

I don't think being married makes them cool Women are really risk-averse and prone to follow the herd, so they like married men because those men are apparently safe/high-quality (after all, some other woman is married to them). So yes, from a woman's point of view, it's a plus for a man to be married to another woman. If you don't believe it, try wearing a (fake) wedding ring. You'll get lots more attention from women.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 09:12 AM
10

While prostitution is legal in my country, everyone sees it as something that only losers would do. I've never heard someone openly admit that they go to prostitutes in my life, although statistically speaking I should have met many people who have slept with prostitutes.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 07:43 AM
24

It's harder to manipulate men with your "I'm a helpless woman" act if you're clearly physically strong. I once helped my brother move and eventually his girlfriend and I lugged something heavy together. I told her afterwards "you're stronger than you look" and she said "please don't tell your brother that!" Now that we're on the topic, "women are so weak LOL" actually helps women. After all, it helps them convince men that they need assistance. While it's true that women really are physically we…
/r/MGTOW21/10/16 04:42 PM
1

The book I linked said that a woman's lips redden during arousal.
/r/MGTOW20/10/16 06:13 PM
14

TRPers are stuck in the bargaining stage of grief. "Yes AWALT, but what if I become, like, really alpha?"
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 08:24 PM
2

I've never heard of this. I would guess many women haven't, either, so you can't bring that up without them shooting it down right away, I'm guessing. And then you say, "but now you now, so you'll never wear lipstick again, right?"
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 04:18 PM
12

Makeup is not just a lie. It's sexual harassment. Take lipstick. A woman's lips redden if she's sexually aroused. So a woman putting on lipstick basically walks around saying "I want to have sex with you" to every man she comes across. No wonder that lipstick makes men easier to manipulate. No wonder that there are so many men willing to do favors for women in the hopes of someday getting sex in return. The same applies to cologne. It basically mimics the pheromones that a woman releases when sh…
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 03:59 PM
14

She wants you to pick up the tab, but she doesn't want to come out and say that because it makes it clear that she's a hypocrite.
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 09:00 PM
6

I feel like it's unfair to yell at a woman for saying she's a woman, in a thread that's explicitly an open letter to women. If you're going to yell at someone, yell at OP for encouraging women to post here and identify themselves as a woman.
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 12:22 PM
11

Also, "Men of character are, by definition, willing to commit." Advises that she should avoid being angry because of men's "fear and insecurity". I am afraid of angry women. If they're insane and they attack you or falsely claim rape, you have very few options to defend yourself.
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 12:14 PM
5

Women believe being born with a dick means money and status falls out of the sky. The because the bottom 80% of men are invisible to them. If you only look at the top 20% of men, then being a man does look like a sweet deal.
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 11:53 AM
1

A woman saying that men should be vulnerable is a shit test.
/r/MGTOW16/10/16 06:50 AM
1

If you're in a relationship, you don't have much access to the endless buffet of carnal delights that is being a single 20-something female. (And by "buffet of carnal delights," we mean "sleeping with a lot of guys who only kinda know where the clitoris is," but no matter.) A number of women polled by Mic cited having sexual freedom as a reason for staying single, with one respondent simply writing she wanted to say single so she could have "sexual encounters with men of influence."
/r/MGTOW15/10/16 07:43 AM
6

Do you think it's a shit test, or do you think they really believe that they always apologize and you never do?
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:38 PM
1

My mom said this to me once or twice. Aside from that, no.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 05:34 PM
2

Indeed. And if you have no idea how to achieve this: meditation is one way of doing it.
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 08:12 AM
4

I like how they're first asking you "are there Hillary supporters here?" and then downvoting you for your opinion.
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 05:50 PM
15

There's only one seat in the lifeboat left. Do you give it to a woman or do you give it to a man? Both men and women tend to give the seat to a woman.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 04:03 PM
1

The mice that went insane also had "challenges" in the sense of: build a nice nest, seduce an attractive partner, etc. Yet they went insane anyway. Apparently, we occasionally need life-or-death challenges and there are few of those around in the west. When's the last time you had no meals for a full week? When's the last time you didn't drink anything for a day? When's the last time you nearly got eaten by a bear?
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 05:19 PM
1

The mice that went insane also had "challenges" in the sense of: build a nice nest, seduce an attractive partner, etc. Yet they went insane anyway. Apparently, we occasionally need life-or-death challenges and there are few of those around in the west. When's the last time you had no meals for a full week? When's the last time you didn't drink anything for a day? When's the last time you nearly got eaten by a bear?
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 05:17 PM
1

Good question. For me, the lesson is indeed to incorporate more challenges into your own life.
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 05:15 PM
1

when have women ever been a pleasure to be around? A hundred years ago, you didn't have washing machines, drying machines, vacuum cleaner, microwaves, etc. Having someone do the house chores was actually valuable back then.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 07:30 PM
4

Yeah, but you'd thank the guy.
/r/MGTOW02/10/16 04:57 PM
73

The boy's game was manipulating the world around them. The girl's game was manipulating the boys around her.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 04:22 PM
10

The worst situation you can be in is bad but tolerable. After all, if you're in an untolerably bad situation, you'll get out. But you can spend a lifetime in "bad but tolerable."
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 07:03 PM
1

We evolved in a polygamous culture. In that scenario, it does make sense for 80% of the women to go after 20% of the men, because the very best hunters of the tribe really were able to have and feed four wives each. Now that we're monogamous, simply arithmetic says that this no longer works, but female preferences haven't evolved yet.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 07:10 AM
1

I wonder what would happen if a man would say that he identified as a female and demanded to do the lighter female exercises.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 07:08 AM
2

Thanks for the compliment. And yes, Tyrion is a great character.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 05:23 PM
5

Frame is your way of viewing the world. "Hold frame" means "have a clearly defined worldview that's obvious to the people around you and don't submit to other people's worldview." For example, in this clip Tyrion (the dwarf) doesn't get murdered because he holds on to his "we're friends" frame, while his would-be murderers eventually submit to his frame.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 06:48 AM
5

If you're a chad, "hey" is a hot opening line. I read about an experiment where a pretend-chad opened with "anal?" on Tinder and then asked "#?" And the girl gave him her number.
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 08:57 AM
1

/r/listentothis
/r/MGTOW04/09/16 06:49 AM
0

No offense taken, do as you want.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 05:09 PM
0

critical thinking (yes really. i enjoy challenging and being challenged on pov and assumptions) Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 04:56 PM
3

I can understand, say, a jew feeling persecuted. After all, most of their ancestors had a really rough time, while my non-jewish ancestors had a comparatively easier time. That same logic doesn't hold for women. Half of a woman's ancestors are women and half are man. Half of a man's ancestors are women and half are man. So even if women were historically oppressed, why does that matter? Yes, some of my ancestors oppressed a woman's ancestors, but some of her ancestors oppressed my ancestors.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 04:37 PM
5

There's ALWAYS going to be the existential void that you are trying to fill with experiences, with materials, whatever it is, it is inescapable. Indeed. The only thing I've found that helps is more than a decade of daily meditation.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 01:15 PM
7

When someone vehemently and repeatedly claims that x is true, then they/most people usually believe that x is not true. After all, if x was clearly true, why would they spend so much energy claiming it to be true? No coal miner is going to repeatedly insist that "coal mining is tough" because everyone knows. So let's try: "Women are just as good as men!" --> people believe/she believes that women are worse. "Women can be funny!" --> people believe/she believes that women aren't funny.
/r/MGTOW02/09/16 05:56 AM
56

Women want to believe that they like nice guys and dislike assholes. So when they realize that they're not attracted to a nice guy, they experience cognitive dissonance. Rather than changing their beliefs, they "solve" this cognitive dissonance by viciously attacking the nice guy and loudly proclaiming that he's actually an asshole. You see, the reason that she's not attracted to him is 1) he's secretly an asshole and 2) she's such a good judge of character that she instantly realized that, tee-…
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 08:31 PM
1

/r/botsrights will hear of this.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 10:32 AM
17

Just like women find it sexually repulsive if men are overly feminine, so too do men find it sexually repulsive if women are overly masculine.
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 06:41 AM
1

men are responding predictably by withdrawing from the society Here's some fascinating yet depressing reading.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 02:11 PM
49

They consistently want alphas to flirt and betas to stay far away. It's only confusing because they use the word "men" for both categories.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 08:24 AM
1

We can add it to this list.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 08:18 AM
1

You don't agree with the jeans part? No man I know likes ripped jeans on women, but maybe other men do.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 05:50 AM
41

Women generally prefer men in their 30s to men in their 20s, so they assume that the reverse is true as well (i.e. that men too prefer slightly older women). But it's not. Women generally like cocky, assertive, sometimes asshole men. So they assume that the reverse is true as well. But it's not. Women generally highly value wealth and education in men. So they assume that the reverse is true as well. But it's not. Some women like ripped jeans, so they sometimes wear them, assuming that men like …
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 02:34 PM
2

If you don't like a thread, use the downvote button.
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 12:57 PM
1

"Let's have sex." "I'm not in the mood." "Let me rephrase that. I'm having sex tonight. Would you like me to have it with you?"
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 11:52 AM
2

The women taking the ‘we’ out of wedding are representative of a much bigger social trend Indeed. But while this may all sound mad, narcissistic or completely pointless, And again, indeed. The tendency of women not to marry low-earning men is not superficial or an indication that they are gold-diggers. (...) We could really do with a partner’s financial support, and there are simply not enough ready and willing high-earning men to go around. Uh huh.
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 08:40 PM
5

Great job. About coding: the two essential skills are learning to split larger problems into manageable subproblems; and googling the solutions to those subproblems. In other words, don't feel bad if you frequently have to google stuff. There are all kinds of great and sometimes free courses online to learn coding with, so check those out. Don't go into game development, it's harder work with less job security and lower pay than "normal" programming. Finally, start meditating for 10 minutes ever…
/r/MGTOW26/08/16 05:47 PM
1

Bonnie Tyler was at least honest about having unrealistic expectations.
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 06:25 PM
130

To be fair, what they actually mean is: "Betas are catcalling me. The government should intervene." "Alphas aren't catcalling me. The government should intervene."
/r/MGTOW25/08/16 02:10 PM
3

Women saying they like "confidence" is just them saying that they like chads who sleep around and rich men. After all, those men are usually the most confident.
/r/MGTOW15/08/16 09:21 AM
4

Patriarchy theory is non-falsifiable. That's why it's not science.
/r/MGTOW14/08/16 12:38 PM
2

I've had one male therapist who was useful. I've had four female therapists, one of whom was useful. I'd already gone MGTOW by then so I didn't discuss relationships with her, but she did help me in some other areas in my life.
/r/MGTOW11/08/16 09:08 AM
3

Here's that scene you're referencing. And later: "tell me more, tell me more, how much dough did he spend?" Also see this: he's attractive, but then acts beta (literally falls at her feet). So she looks to her girlfriends to see what she should do. When they give her the go-ahead, she pushes him upright with her foot and tells him "you'd better shape up, 'cause I need a man" (aka "stop acting beta").
/r/MGTOW09/08/16 11:46 AM
1

Great job on quitting cigarettes!
/r/MGTOW08/08/16 07:16 AM
12

What you're saying is true in broad strokes, but contraception is still so much cheaper than having a child that it's worth it: The research also shows that each dollar spent on these policies would produce taxpayer savings of between two and six dollars. You can still oppose it on moral grounds, or you can argue that we shouldn't subsidize mothers at all, but this study does show that it saves taxpayers money under the current system.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 01:53 PM
21

Assuming you have a government that pays a lot of money to mothers (especially single ones), then giving women free birth control saves more money that it costs.
/r/MGTOW07/08/16 12:03 PM
3

Meditation and exercise will help you.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 07:48 PM
2

/r/nofap It's been scientifically proven that continually doing stuff that's mentally tough trains your willpower, in the same way that you can train a muscle. So even if not masturbating has zero other benefits, then it'll still train your willpower, even though there are of course other ways to train your willpower.
/r/MGTOW05/08/16 04:47 PM
5

It's weird to me that most modern women are simultaneously prideful enough that they want to be seen as strong yet they also want the perks of being weak (alimony, not being conscripted in case of war, "hire x women" quota, etc).
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 05:58 AM
3

The core point of the message you replied to is "if a woman has to choose between suffering herself and having a man suffer for her, she'll usually choose to have the man suffer for her if she can." (And no, men don't generally have women suffer in their place.) You replied to that with 'here's female suffering that women can't have men bear for them, namely childbirth, and look, they bear it themselves!" Well, yeah. Women would have men suffer the pain of childbirth for them if could, but they …
/r/MGTOW04/08/16 05:47 AM
5

"Awful but tolerable" is the very worst situation to be in. After all, if you'd be in an intolerable situation, then you'd get out. But you can spend decades in situations that are awful but tolerable. So start calling her out on her bullshit. Stand up for yourself. Either she'll respect you suddenly having a spine and she'll nag you less, or she'll go full harpy on you and you simply leave. Both situations are better than your current situation.
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 04:28 PM
-3

Stefan offers a simple and compelling worldview and presents it in a charismatic fashion. He is pushy with his worldview when he talks to others, but at first glance that just makes him seem wise and helpful. It's easy to see his appeal. However, his libertarian perspective of the world, while valuable, is just one among many. I sometimes watch him because he's really good at using his particular perspective, but his perspective isn't always the appropriate one to use. The world is too complex f…
/r/MGTOW31/07/16 06:30 AM
2

You seem really hurt and angry. If you ever want to talk about anything, feel free to drop me a pm.
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 07:12 AM
3

Why are you attacking him instead of his suggestion? Wouldn't it be easier and kinder to say "nah, that's not for the side bar" rather than spending three paragraphs tearing him down?
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 06:55 AM
1

Gary Taubes is an author who claims that carbs make you fat and who says that eating almost exclusively meat is one way to avoid most carbs.
/r/MGTOW29/07/16 07:01 PM
1

Assuming you're correct, what's the solution then? No government and let the assholes run rampant?
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 08:30 AM
0

I'd like a true libertarian (no big corps/gov) with incentives for not screwing each other up. Else you get overrun with machiavellian assholes who get a positive selective pressure. I agree that a true libertopia wouldn't be very nice to live in because assholes would ruin everyone's day. However, without a government or big business, who provides the incentives for not screwing each other up? If you want complete decentralization, then who stops the assholes? I agree that our current governmen…
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 06:28 AM
1

Context.
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 09:54 PM
1

This is not a private subreddit that requires definitive proof that you're a man before you can post here. So one sure-fire way to post here as a woman is to simply not identify yourself as a woman. If you want to post here and you want to identify yourself as a woman, then ask yourself why it's important that you openly identify yourself as a woman. Why do you want to write "I'm a woman and I think x" when you can just write "I think x"? For that reason, I'd be very suspicious to read a post th…
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 09:52 PM
6

Daily meditation for years or even decades. It doesn't sound sexy but it has some amazing benefits.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 07:30 PM
4

You're so used to seeing women with makeup that women without makeup look sickly to you.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 09:18 AM
10

It's very simple. Women are the bottleneck for reproduction. A tribe with 18 women and 2 men outbaby a tribe with 10 women and 10 men. (We used to be polygamous.) Therefore we're evolved to care much more about women than about men. So if something benefits women at the expense of men (like makeup), then most of us are okay with that, because that would be beneficial for a polygamous stone-age tribe. If something benefits men at the expense of women (like a man lying about his salary), then most…
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 07:26 AM
15

My mother repeatedly cheated on my father and was then shocked that he eventually broke up with her. And my father wonders why I'm not interested in relationships.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 07:44 PM
2

These hoes ain't loyal.
/r/MGTOW15/07/16 07:26 PM
1

And "everyone's lives matter, you sexist pig" would be the feminist response to "male lives matter." Why can't it be simultaneously true that society cares less about black people and cares less about males? Why does it have to be one or the other?
/r/MGTOW12/07/16 04:07 PM
1

It's hard not to seem hypocritical if you take that position.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 05:32 PM
3

You can send an "I didn't rape you" text the day after, something like "I had a great time last night." If she replies positively, it'll be hard for her to claim rape later.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 05:29 PM
11

A hundred years ago there was no real television, no smartphones, no internet, no online porn, no video games and no real computers. Travelling was a lot harder. I suspect that it'd also be harder to do drugs than it is nowadays. So the single life was far more boring than it is today.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 01:28 PM
28

Why should I go out and be the provider so someone else can live off it? A hundred years ago, your wife would be giving birth to and raising 5-10 children. She'd also do the housework without the benefit of washing machines and other modern appliances. And once she was 40, she'd be spending a lot of time raising your many grandchildren. In that scenario, it was pretty fair that the man was the sole provider. But yeah, this is a very different situation from a woman staying at home for 1-2 childr…
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 11:05 AM
1

Japan panics about the rise of "grass-eating men" Japan’s sexual apathy is endangering the global economy I'm not saying that the government is concerned about the love life of Japanese single men because they want to make every single Japanese man happy. But I am saying that Japanese MGTOWs are hurting the Japanese economy. And Japan cares about their economy.
/r/ExRedPill23/06/16 10:19 PM
3

Nobody gives a fuck about MGTOW The Japanese government cares very much about MGTOW. (They're called "herbivores.")
/r/ExRedPill23/06/16 10:08 PM
2

Shouldn't women have the right to not be murdered? And before you say "that's merely a property crime against her male owner": shouldn't a female orphan have the right to not be murdered?
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 10:05 PM
5

[Red pill men] use the excuse that women only cheat on men but you see these men are insecure and lack power. Translated from hamster: "if a woman cheats on a man, then it's the man's fault for not being more attractive. If he'd been Brad Pitt, she wouldn't have cheated on him!" In other words, she's victim-blaming.
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 10:02 PM
4

In all likeliness, a man wrote that.
/r/MGTOW23/06/16 06:32 AM
6

There is, but it'll require years and probably decades of meditation and mindfulness work. It's worth it though.
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 01:09 PM
7

Everyone is born with a hole in their heart. And apparently you decided early on that women can fill that hole. Turns out they can't, and now you fill that hole with hobbies, your profession, etc.
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 07:08 AM
11

The first question is: Many women have a quality of purity that few men possess. I bet that if you agree, you're a benevolent sexist; while if you disagree, you're a hostile sexist. (There's no neutral option.) In other words, you're always sexist. edit: if you fill in the survey full MGTOW, you're a 5 hostile sexism/0 benevolent sexism. If you fill in the survey full bluepill, you're a 0 hostile sexism/5 benevolent sexism. In other words, you're always sexist.
/r/MGTOW19/06/16 09:08 AM
36

And neither is a rat trap, if you're a rat.
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 10:45 AM
5

They think by acting nice the guy will feel special and be more inclined to participate in other unnecessary add-ons the gym provides. In most cases they're right.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 10:37 PM
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