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not in my experience, at least the low inhibition women wont have a problem because they arent to different from adhd , and you always can shut off adhd via medication
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:22 PM
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another non argument just like the authority appeal you used before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:52 PM
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bmi looks different on people, it doesnt make much sense as a metric. the ideal body for a woman has enough fat to barely not show any bones on the torso and hips, only fingers, jawline and collar bones. no ribs, and most importantly the hip region must be flowing into the ass and thighs in a streamlined none abrupt manner but maintaining an hourglass figure. the most minimal amount of fat to achieve this is ideal. under no circumstance should the lower body look hard, edgy or boney, but the ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:12 PM
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beauty standards are NOT changing at all. they are static and biological. yes they can be influenced heavily by experiences in childhood, but thats besides the point. it doesnt matter what is being shown. what is attractive is what is healthy and gives the best reproductive success chances. I dont care how women look that are shown to me. I am repulsed from too little fat or too much, or from deformities and unproprtionality from plastic surgery. the brain is wired to look for natural growth and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:59 AM
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yes. its how mass psychology works. people have this impression that "what everyone is saying must be correct, not what some weird contrarians are saying". but its just an illusion of authority that doesnt even make a huge effort to conceal the truth, at least in terms of nutrition. all that happens is that people dont actually use common sense because when authorities talk bs, they think they must know better and they themselves are not educated, so they must be right. btw, the same applies to …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:49 AM
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possibly, but that doesnt say anything because they are fools who have no idea what they are reading and what it actually says. just because there is a conclusion, doesnt mean that it followed. nobody can argue against my claims. I can win a scientific discussion just by pointing out how the nutrients humans need are only contained in animal products. but the scientific community would not accept it because they are politically motivated. much of what you believe to be science is completely fals…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:16 AM
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no, they come from the destruction of gender roles, feminism, lack of disciplining girls, not holding them accountable, and not enforcing shame and traditionalism. men being simps is just as much of an issue. people dont behave well when they are not disciplined. if women would not be hook up without long term commitment, there would be no high standards. it the ability to hook up with them wihout commitment that enables the delusion of pulling significantly better men because of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:06 AM
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not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:38 AM
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yes, and you are a prime example. brain growth needs animal proteins to grow just like the entire body, and is composed of specific fats. last time I checked, none of these come from anything other than animal products in usable quantities. you are the one just blindly following a cult because group psychology said that it is a good idea. youve put zero thought into why things need to be what other than they told me to and they had titles, and society acts as if that was credible. its just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:35 AM
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I still want an answer. do you find that kind of masculinity sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:28 AM
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lol, why do you attack me for the biologic reality of my bodies physical reaction? all humans are like this, most just are not honest about it because of virtue signalers like you. howler monkey exhibit natural "racism". when different species hybridize, the offspring is rejected by both groups, and not recognized as their own, even though they could and did reproduce. yet they still perceive them as foreign. racism being a social construct actually is a social /political construct. its kust the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:16 AM
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yes, but because of not getting the right nutrients. the point is that today they are common and you pretty much do not find naturally perfect teeth anymore in the domesticated world. no animal has ever needed braces, and no human ever needed braces on primitive diets. in medieval times the average population had much more deformities and was 8 inches shorter than the ruling class because of lack of animal products, as they only really consumed bread,/potatoes/rice while the upper class consumed…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:09 AM
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thanks, its just so rare to find anyone who is aware of this. It blows my mind how people just swallow this crap just because the media says that they should and that supposedly its what scientist think. its the reason modern people are so ugly, while ancient skulls and teeth looked perfect. like you quoted, you need either a focus on raw milk based dairy, meats with organs or seafood to be healthy, and Im not talking just consuming them, they need to be the base of the diet that get supplemente…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:02 AM
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>But people do work on their phones Im not talking about work, and using it as a utility. Im talking texting and chatting. I dont mind productive use. Im talking about the constant chatting women do with their friends or random people. >if I’m just sitting around at home I don’t see why scrolling through my phone is a a problem. to me its just like most women perceive men playing video games. women hate men playing video games, because they hate seeing the man invest that kind of energy in a scr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:45 AM
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from common sense, reasearching what humans naturally must have eaten for millions of years, what kind of nutrients in which quantities are contained in which food sources, etc. the part about the deformities comes from a pre WW2 book from a food scientist and dentist who researched physical deformities of bones in the industrialized world by comparing their diet to primitive diets of tribes, who all had perfectly aligning teeth and wide, developed midfaces and jaws, which is the opposite of wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:25 AM
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they are doing it on purpose. women are manipulative. they want the benefit of your attenion. they know the duded want to fuck them, they pick up if the dude is into them, and want to take advantage of the passive benefits he provides to them. when they say that it is toxic, they are manipulating you. toxic to them is not letting them take advantage of you. they know exactly what they are doing. Also its straight up saying: your not entitled to my body, but Im still entitled to your attention an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:38 AM
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in any situation. I hate seeing people with phones, especially women. seeing her being so invested in that damn thing makes we wanna break it. I just see it as an addiction and danger. all I see is destruction. If I would ask a woman Im close to any favor and she is not enthusiastic but is enthusiastic about tying on her phone to who ever it is, I would totally loose it. the power it has over women is just insane. people should be either alone or in groups, not on the phone. its inherently anti …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:59 PM
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Its not natural to date other races than your own. to me, the different fascial features and mannerisms make it impossible to feel any attraction, its just like they are different species, because they dont look and behave like people like me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:47 PM
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non NT people are not really disadvantaged, only autism. any other neurological disorder like bipolar or somthing that makes you more emotional and more social will get you laid more than being NT, because getting women is a matter of not perceiving shame, being social, having exposure, and engage women in emotions. only autism is a death sentence because it makes you less socially adept and makes it impossible to conduct yourself in ways that lead somewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:44 PM
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the question is if it is attractive to you. you can be against it and it can still turn you on. plenty of women are against rape but have non consent and degradation fantasies that mirror rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:37 PM
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seeing her using the phone to type frequently. just repulsive af
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:34 PM
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I wouldnt date a girl who religiously insisted that vegetables are healthy. have you ever seen a cave painting of a salad or vegetable, or people looking for vegetables? Its all propaganda. the healthiest foods are organ meats, seafood, fish and meat, preferably raw. looking at nutrients we need reveals that vegetables are mostly useless from a nutritional standpoint, but have anti nutrients that slow down absorption rate, causing you to not digest and waste actually nutritious food. the few vit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:27 PM
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I dont care if its good, I mentioned it because its about attraction. you can be attracted to something not good, and girls simp over serial killers. I asked of you are attracted to that type of masculinity even though it is not good?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:05 PM
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I just know by their behavior if they had enough exposure to men. girls fear anal by nature. typically they only discover that they like it when a bf pushes them to do it a few times. if she doesnt have the mannerisms of exposure to men, they definetely have not done anal. also Im talking taking them serious. I have no problem having sex with them though, I just wont commit to a girl who has had enough exposure to men that them got get to do it. I also can see if they are the type of girl to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:02 PM
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I am repulsed by it anyway and would refuse to do anal, and dont want a girl who ever did or thought about doing anal, simply because I associate it with extreme discomfort and disgust. after all, its where the shit comes out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:18 PM
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okay so if thats the case, you must be in favor of men enforcing boundaries through violence, and that includes women. I am inclined to believe you that you perceive crime are masculine, however I dont necessarily. to me a man with impulse control but capacity of violence is the pinnacle of mascuinity. but since criminals, dictators and serial killers are in demand with women, I guess women view all violence as masculine. are you in favor of men using force to get women in place? how can men be …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:19 PM
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I wont change my opinion. I am terrified of something entering the backdoor, so doing anal to a girl would imply increadible discomfort for me, and I just dont enjoy that. if thats justified or not doesnt matter. its just uncomfortable to me, not to mention that it is where the shit comes out, and thats disgusting too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:13 PM
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most people today lack emotional control, so I assumed calling it gay was offensive. Im just too used to very snowflakey people on the internet . no, I respect blue collar work. yes I have a low opinion of the people that generally do these jobs , but I also had male role models in my personal life and friends who I looked up to who were as blue collar and or masculine as it gets. its completely removed from the labor they do, and is about the social class that ends up doing this labor most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:06 PM
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it was offensive because calling the notion of an ideal man gay is out of place and serves to attack the person that stated that notion. its just another way to attack me for no reason. If you have 2 degrees and dating a manual laborer, you must be more socially skilled and smarter than most blue collar men. does that not bother you? Im not saying a man like that must be stupid or socially not adept, but most of them are and are also of a lower social class regardless of money or job just in ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:56 PM
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alright, Im done being nice to you if you get offensive for no reason. you must be not the brightest and or lower class if these men are inherently socially attractive to you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:39 PM
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sorry I dont buy it, because it leads to contradictions. answer me, what would the ideal man be working? would he have the intellect and social skills that these men typically have, or is it just the manual labor performed without these attributes attached? you must commit to them being stupid, less socially skilled, low hierarchy and inherently lesser than you attributes assuming your middle class, atleast if you are talking about real people instead of fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:13 PM
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I dont believe that , but even if that was the case, Im not going to find out, because it would be repulsive either way. why would anyone even try that? at some point, you must have desired o be penetrated and be the recipient for somehitng rather than the source, which implies a submissive degradation oriented mindset, which is fine and natural for women to a degree, but this is beyond a natural boundary
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:08 PM
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I wont answer this because you might backstab me and get me banned
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:38 PM
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>That's their fault by the same logic, this also applies to to poor people, women, gays etc. its their fault that they are where/what they are. If a woman gets raped, its her fault because she put was alone outside risking rape. seems like bad consequences are selectively excused to fit a narrative. >He let a terrorist attack and released classified documents, he's not a hero saving us from hillaries pizza pedo ring not sure who you are talking about, but all terrorism is left wing. antifa is le…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:33 PM
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To put it bluntly, I'm not making any sense because your logic is fucking stupid. You know it's stupid which is why you keep changing the topic and moving the goal post. wtf? how can I keep changing the goal post when you yourself do not stick to your own threads topic and throw statements out with no context. of course I need to frame the context first so that there is a situation to actually debate about. you just keep removing the context necessary to define what you are saying, and then chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:06 PM
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the female orgasm is not necessary for reproduction, that should tell you a different reality. Also men view sex not only as a carnal rewards, but also as dominance over the woman because it forces emotional investment. men dont like anal. the only reason men are so obsessed with anal is because its an act of submission and to ensure that she is actually serious. the whole point is that she does not want it herself, and does it for him anyway. If women would no be so easily persuaded when their …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 04:49 PM
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yes, but many try to pretend that its not an anomaly because they are insecure about its implications. I have no problem with anomalies. the problem is pretending they are the norm because you dont want to feel weird. I admit to anomalies in my own behavior, and accept them. most men do. women on the other hand not at all, because collective non approval is a much greater psychological force for them, and because they are invested in the woke narrative, so admitting that not all things are equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:32 PM
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>The entire history and progress of humanity would demonstrate the opposite wrong, the fact that tremendous social engineering, pressure and endoctrination is needed to get so many people to not follow gender rules proves the opposite. people are more unhappy since gender roles have been reduce, because its a natural need. people not fitting gender roles have been confused in their gender identity either by biological accident of prenatal hormones, or by systematically raising and shaming them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:16 PM
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yes, ever since I saw that people with atypical gender behavior often had the lengths of these finger reversed, I look for their fingers, and overall influences of prenatal T and E, and most of the time it is as I would predict, so that I can counter the diversity and special snowflake arguments and pin them down to exceptions and erroneous divergence rather than just natural diversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:31 AM
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Im a man, and im talking about masculinity from a male point of view. How can blue collar be more masculine when its nature is inherently hierarchically inferior to other male white collar jobs? Im not talking about pay, Im talking purely from a standpoint of hierarchy. masculinity equals competitiveness and the urge for superiority and glory through responsibility. How can a blue collar man be more masculine if competitive dominant men who are also smart do not do manual labor because of pay an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:24 AM
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I was about to say that. Im always so pleased to see men who I consider superior to me going after women I dont care about rather than the ones I care about and vice versa. even though there is lots of overlap, it makes male groups much more peaceful. imagine a group of male friends all fighting for the same woman. male friend groups would not be possible otherwise. I can not be friends with a dude who truely is after a woman I really want, you can find enough men who are different enough that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:06 AM
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you are not making any sense. >You said time and resources, I asked so if a fat/unattractive woman did the same are you obligated to sleep with her? and I said yes, I I was in a relationship with her or dating her and she is investing like she would for a better man. since I would not date a woman who is fat or unappealing, there can not be any obligation to fuck her. why are women entering relationships with men they dont want to fuck? clearly they are after something else, but there obligation…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:51 AM
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you are not getting it. the original topic was a woman selectively making men wait. the issue isnt that men or women favor more attractive mates by nature or try to trick them into an imbalanced deal. they both do, although women do it far more and most men never pretend at all. the crucial point is that women try to paint giving sex in a different, more private light than the use of the mans body to hide the fact that they are not planning to invest at all, and as a cultural collective movement…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:38 AM
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>That's just prison culture and has nothing to do with the real world many men are in prison though. and by that logic, you could say that almost all rape happens in lower social classes and neigborhoods, so it doesnt count if you are middle class or dont go o dangerous areas. doesnt work that way. >Not all media is far left yes it is. even more conservative media is financed the same people financing the left. non left media exists to have a pseudo enemy to justify legal action and fuel pro lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:27 AM
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>So if an unattractive chick gives you her time and resources do you have to fuck her? And then only fuck fat chicks? I am talking about dates or relationships, otherwise there is no expectation. and if I dont date or have a rlationship with a fat chick, there is no obligation. >But men do this all the time, like this isn't anything new. Go to any pinkpill or old femcel subs and they say this all the time "Males only go above and beyond for attractive women". again, we are talking about relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:12 AM
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because she is getting access to my time and resources permanently. how about men saying today I dont feel like providing, dont feel like working, dont feel like protecting when there is danger. how about men openly tell a woman they are dating: you are less attractive than my ex, so I will spent less time on you, provide less than I did for my more attrwctive ex, have you split the bill while I previously payed for my exes dates, dont let you live in my house while I allowed my ex to live in it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:56 AM
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>Women have more privelidge in some senses like divorce but not in senses like rape if you factor in prison statistics, a man is more likely to get raped. a man is also far more likely to get killed or to be the victim of a violent crime. they have far far more social privileges as the result of protective instincts and asymetric sexual attraction. perfect harmony and balance is nature, and in nature, men have complete authority over women. the equivalent of a man killing and physically robbing …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:42 AM
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lol how dare you talk about bitter given how triggered and out of place your response is to mine. all women are promiscuous be nature. its just a matter of how much they are in demand and how much law and culture opreesses it. the fact that you tried having meaningless sex already means that you are fucked up. why would you even try something that you dont have the urge to do naturally? because you had the urge to use sexual manipulation to get attention. thats also promiscuous. you were after t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:00 AM
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>Nope it's an ideology that believes in the sociopolitical equality between the sexes no, thats bs. the policies feeminists want are not equal at all. destroying the family structure and gender roles is not equality, but systematic surpression of gender identity. women already have MORE rights than men while retaining all their social privileges that men never had. thats not equal. women quotas are not equality, but systematic discrimination of men. a man has to do way more to get any job. femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:41 AM
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wrong. women lie. If a woman has an instagram that is not private, she has at least promiscuous attention seeking or exhibitionist tendencies. How many women have non private instagrams, have male friends while having a boyfriend, act to attract male, non person specific attention, wear revealing clothes etc. ? Now if you exclude unattractive women, the percentage rises dramatically. finding an attractive woman who is not like that is incredibly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:18 AM
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women just call a man not allowing to be disrespected "entitlement". there is nothing more to it than them throwing a tantrum over not getting their abusive will like they are used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 08:13 AM
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Im saying that the look of boobs does not carry arousal in my eyes. the overall body shape yes, but not boobs or genitals in itself, they look neutral at best and repulsive more often than not if they are not on a girl I like for other features. arousal in my eyes is only carried by face, hair, skin, fat percentage, overall shape and proportions, and things, legs and hip/ass region. not the upper body, back or boobs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:30 PM
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lol.I would go as far as saying that boobs are the only thing on a woman that to me typically looks unpleasant. I like the look of legs and thighs, but typically I only really look at face and hair and am obsessed with those. I believe that men like you are in the majority though, but I just cant perveive it and am happy for it to be that way, but it makes me way more selective than the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:27 PM
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suits and short hair are masculine though, and no technical book was written for a female audience ever. muscles are also masculine. You dont dislike books because they are feminine, that a lie, because you dislike very masculine things
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:18 PM
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is your ring finger longer than your index finger by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:14 PM
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to me, boobs are non sexual body parts and beyond proportionality and looking feminine I do not care about a girls boobs at all. Boobs in itself are not a look that carries attraction in my eyes beyond not looking weird or out of proportion
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:06 PM
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Porn stars, oversized boobs, asses and all the typical porn stuff, including the way porn stars talk and act. I do not consider boobs in general to be visually appealing in any way. they either fit the body or they dont. I am attracted to the overall look, but not the individual part itself. I have zero interest in seeing boobs, or female genitalia or asses. to me averall shape matters, and Im just mostly attracted to facial features and hair. I just can not understand why other men seem to be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:59 PM
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the fact that a person is not canceled for openly proclaiming to be marxist even though marxism killed 100 million people, more than all wars in human history together, tell you enough about the nature of society. feminism is a hate cult with the goal of destroying the family structure and decimate population by making genders as unappealing as possible to each other and as unhappy as possible, so that the unhappy people and resulting mass poverty can lead to a marxist revolution in the west tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:20 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:06 PM
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you just can not perceive it. you truely believe what you say. you are doing me injustice. I told you that it requires hundreds of hours, probably thousands of hours of reflection throughout your life over logic and cause and effect and why everything is like it is to truely understand cause and effect, and to recognize patterns from experience and being able to apply deductive and inductive logic productively. the process is simply, but understand why it works takes lots of effort that nobody r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:05 PM
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all people do fit into a box though , they are all the same. and not wanting to adhere to their gender role is just them not wanting to grow up and throwing a tantrum. They all still want the privileges of the gender role, just not the responsibily and restriction, proving that its nothing more than infantile bs. they would all be happier inside strict gender roles. if women truely did not want their gender role, they would not be selectively avoiding the duties but taking the benefits. thats no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:54 PM
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>The reason none of this works is that happiness is completely subjective. its not. its universal and.there is a clear pattern. its the reason why ads and social engineering works. >For example, I can imagine it would make someone very happy if they could hoard all resources for themselves at the expense of everyone else. that person would be happy short term, but miserable long term, regardless of what that person thinks. > All of your arguments are based on the assumption that everyone’s happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:44 PM
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I did make a point, you were just to close minded to see it. like I said, you just perceive it as if I just claimed and assumed I was more logical, because thats what you want it to be. you would have to put in much more thought about every word to discover that there is more than just a claim. It has an implicit logical deduction/induction that you can not see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:41 PM
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how can you present evidence when a person is not capable of understanding why it is evidence or they just dont think deeply about it? How do you logically convince an illogical emotional person, or someone who is not interested in the truth at all if it makes you feel bad? You cant. Its like talking to a wall, If I told a person who can count but not do math the result of something like 222\<sup>333,</sup> that person would not accept the result because he would not be able to count to that num…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:29 PM
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exactly, but your uncle has a far bigger impact than famous people if he is involved in your life, and I am talking about multiple role models with impact in every mans personal life. that would b the cure to correct male behavior, but we dont have that because it eroded over 3 generations, which created the problem in the first place, so we need famous people as an example for men who have have no male role models in their personal life, so that they can become more like them and be better role…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 04:17 PM
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what? Im talking in real life, in communities, in families. providing internet role models is a start, but that is far from enough to combat the war on gender identity and family structure that is the root of all metal issues and unhappiness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:26 PM
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you dont understand that human emotions are wired to push people to do certain things, and require certain inputs that are universal to all humans because of biology. The way society should be run provides the most long term happiness to everyone that is possible, because our happiness is wired towards productivity and cooperation, because that equals survival of the genes. the emphasis is on long term happiness here. nobody finds purpose in hedonism, because hedonism is short term happiness. pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:23 PM
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they either cant afford that behavior or have had a strict father figure and upbringing that raised them correctly. but they still have the exact same urges, they are just raised to not be selfish and reckless. they still are manipulative by nature, and are equally repulsed by simps and attracted to bad boys, they just dont act on them. men are attracted to women who would b horrible to commit to or give attention, yet not all of them ruin themselves by trying to.they still have the urge to, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 02:03 PM
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no, they need masculine role models in their community and validation for their own masculinity. therapy is a postmodernist scam
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:54 PM
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>It is cognitive dissonance if you actually try to justify your conservative beliefs. wtf no, there are a lot of reasons to be conservative and a lot of meaning to be found outside of a religious world view, and most people today are starved of meaning and therefore drown in hedonism and selfishness >The natural conclusion of atheism is that there’s no reason people shouldn’t simply do whatever they want whenever they want. no, not at all. If you were smarter you would realize that the need of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:48 PM
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risk taking in women is a deal breaker, but men who have capacity for risk do far better than men who avoid risk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:28 PM
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If you make no logical effort and behave illogical, yes than this is in fact true. You talk as if there was no intllectual difference in capability and effort between groups of people that can lead them to believe something else. I got news for you, peoples capability, effort and intentions differ immensely. most non RP people here have no intention to find out how things work, and women by nature do not value truth for the truths sake, and instead value appealing to groups and ideologies higher…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:25 PM
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the ones that didnt did enforce chastity, morality, virtue, marriage, selflessness, and typical gender role related virtues slecively for each gender, they just didnt explicitely demand the roles because there was no need. people would naturally do them, and would adhere to all parameters necessary. There was no law or anything that prevented non typical practices, but it didnt matter because the important parts were enforced separately and the rest just falls in place. people still did their ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:21 AM
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its only random guesswork for illogical or intellectually lazy people. If we agree to certain things, other things must logically follow. Its not guess work, its cause and effect. Just because you cant understand why it logically follows even when its explained doesnt mean its baseless. Most RP arguments have no logical counters that cant be immediately countered and eventually lead to RP being correct. Thats why any RP argument is never argued against, and people just gaslight, bully, get emoti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:56 AM
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lol thats not cognitive dissonance. I dont have to be commited to a religious doctrine just because I am in favor of many of its social rules for logical and practical reasons rather than religious ones. >Eventually you’ll have to choose if you’re a religious conservative or a total hedonist nihilist no, and I have no idea why you would think that. you dont have to take everything or nothing. I can be in favor of things that religious people are in favor of for different reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:53 AM
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you simply dont know how paganism worked, same with "Satanism". paganism is not a definable religion, its an umbrella term for religious systems that have many parallels, and a common root religion as origin, but their social norms varied greatly across societies. In its true forms, yes there was no emphasis on gender roles at all, but there was a huge emphasis on morality, modesty, virtue, and most importantly chastity. there was lots of shame for not following them, and there definetely was an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:47 AM
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yes you probably did, you likely just lack logical perception of cause and effect and you havent put enough thought into it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:25 AM
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listen I have argued alot against studies in this sub , I know what Im talking about. dismissing conclusion because of not liking their results is not what happens. its always that the people arguing for the study dont understand the study or treat it as authority even though it does not logically prove he claim. people treat it like a prove simply because it is called study, with no logic applied. there is no logic against RP, and all logical argument are met with bullying, shaming, and blatant…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:18 PM
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cant you read? It was invented as a name for the truth that its creators wanted to find out. the meaning of a name is determined by the people who invented it. you cant just disagree because its entirely defined by its intended meaning. everything is just a name then. just because it has a name doesnt mean you get to change its definition, thats determined by the terms inventors
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:11 PM
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>Lol, try quoting an actual study to a red piller. Common responses include "yes but they're all lying in that study" or "the study must have been done by liberals" to quote this sub no, its just that people use studies as an authority argument. they dont understand the study and dont understand that the methodology did not logically lead to its supposed conclusion, but because it has the title of a study it is treated as as if the lack of logic can just be ignored
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:04 PM
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yes it is defined as the truth regardless of if its ideas are the actual truth. look at he matrix movie and the concept of BP means staying inside the simulation an RP means breaking out and seeing how far the rabbit hole goes. that analogy is what the d pill name is based on
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:58 PM
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>None of this "understanding" is based on anything factual. It's a circlejerk of online losers. lol this a claim not an argument >Right, rhe old "red pill is meaningless" argument always comes out when all the retarder RP stuff gets pointed out. strawman, you confuse things and put words in my mouth >But if it was, how would that make it more appealing to religious people? It wouldnt, and that wasnt the point. religious people are not intrested in th truth about women, they just conform to a cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:53 PM
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So anything opposed to what those who subscribe the red pill think is truth then. no, RP is defined as the truth instead of the falsehood, whether individual RPers get the truth right is independent of the definition of the name >Religious texts are completely silent on many matters and simply can'tgive a full account of gender roles, especially one that appliescenturies after the texts are written. no, they are cristal clear on what marriage is, gender roles, what women and men are , and that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:42 PM
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Im not religious, but all rrligions support hard gender roles, what individual communities do has nothing to do with what the scripture mandates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:39 PM
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>Everyone seeks the truth. no not at all, most people seek comfort and selfish benefits. >Nothing special about RP. yes, its the only space that promotes true understanding of female nature. nowhere else is this discussed >Most religions are against porn and playe spinning so the fact that most RP men promote them makes them incompatible RP does not mean doing what other RPers do, its just about understanding female behavior. there is no incentive, just education about women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:36 PM
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no, blue pill is a term refering to the matrix, the delusion, or the common media propaganda and societal programming. red pill is just seeing the truth through the lies told by society. and no, there are not different interpretations to religion and gender roles, thats just you selectively following and not following what benefits you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:29 PM
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its not possible, that why women are immoral and selfish , because nobody is shaming them and there is no punishment or accountability. Dont demand morality from men after being immoral and selfish. women want selective morality, everything allowed for them while men still following traditional norms. they are the first ones to virtue signal and scream when men dont put random women first, yet demand to b completely immoral without consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:46 PM
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>Refusing to be conservative is a crime now? strawman. its about getting people to do the right thing, and yes certain things need to be restricted, and putting a political label on it doesnt remove moral accountability for your actions. people should be forced to be moral. if the government called human rights conservative, would enforcing them mean that people are forced to be conservative?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:29 PM
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than these people are hypocrites, because blue pill denies gender roles. religion has very blue pill and red pill concepts, and religious people are often BP, but do subscribe to holding women accountable and gender roles, which the Blue Pill does not do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:23 PM
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neither spinning plates nor porn is RP, its just that RP people make a case for it, but its a choice. red pill means seeing the truth, what you do with it is irrelavant. just because RP guys promote spinning plates doesnt mean men even want all that drama and stress. some do, but its more like a short term thing for some men. no same person can take dealing with that many women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:19 PM
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> the only way you can get women to be conservative is to force them... if the only way to get criminals to not commit crimes is to arrest them... >(Also, if you're conservative and weren't trying to find your wife in high school, you failed of your own volition thats invalid because men have no issue getting with girls in high school , its the women who dont want to be restricted when they have the most sexual and social leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:16 PM
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Im an RP conservative non religious man, and I agree partially. its not that religion promotes RP thought, its that religion is merged with good functional relationship dynamics to have a productive society. that was part of its political function back when it was the state enforced propaganda in europe in th middle ages. religious people are more virtuous by accident, they just happen to be brought up with a culture that promotes certain productive things that are now intentionally under attack…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:10 PM
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Its not like women intentionally lie about what attracts them all their lives, and tell men the opposite of the truth just like the media and the entire society is invested in brainwashing men to become as unappealing to women as possible. Men who are successful or unsuccessful with women are just born into their role, they either have the looks and or physical strength and popularity at a young age that exposes them to the right experiences or they dont. They only way for this to change is a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:54 PM
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no, its just that men forget that women until they approach the wall do not look for LTR, and women having their life together does not mean career, but the things they value in women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:35 AM
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I would be outraged, because it most likely would not be true but a reflection of entitlement and self delusion. If it was true and the girl is indeed way better looking I dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:30 AM
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Simple, do not have sexual relations with anyone other than a person you want to live with long term. Do not use the sexual privilege for anything but building a long term live.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:27 AM
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Im not talking legal marriage, Im talking LTR and family. Also the lower the body count and age the less likely the woman wrecks the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:24 AM
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no, its because people are denied their biological needs, especially a healthy family and place/role in a community, and their natural gender role. all political trends push for unhealthy food, more consumerism, less family, less gender roles, so more isolation, so more mental illness. also all housing, cars etc. get a more basic design void of details and natural shapes, which causes depression, because humans are build to live in nature, and are wired to recognize certain patterns and design a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:34 PM
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Its designed to make family impossible without being legally able to ruin the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:30 PM
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no just for a man. for a woman to have the healthiest baby, and best chance at the best possible guy she can pull, she needs to reproduce before any aging sets in, meaning she should by nature be done getting pregnant at like 26. 25 is not to young for women. women are technically ready for their role on this planet at 18 at the latest. no growing up further is biologically required and even counter productive for children and their dating options
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:27 PM
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no. it plays a part, but the main fault is the systematic erosion of gender roles, purposefully molding men to become feminine and women ´to become masculine, culturally removing all judgement surrounding female immorality, and a legal system and marriage/abortion laws that serve only the system, and to destroy the family unit. And a whole society allowing, encouraging and pressuring women to be immoral and cruel particularly to men and even their own children in order to make family ,realtionsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:20 PM
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this is just projection. Men like women who are attractive. men typically dont even know who kim kardashian or kylie jenner is. women who have similar appearances have bfs who are of low quality. no good looking, mentally stable dude goes for these types of women. I have never seen that in my life. these women typically pull men who are not good looking, and if they are they have something wrong with them , typically they are beta and weak, feminine or weird. men dont like plastic surgery and ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 03:13 PM
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bs, women have never been opressed. Having more legal rights is not opession if you have also proportionally more responsibilities. the opression is a political narrative. women had social privileges men did never have. it was balanced. today its completely imbalanced. men have still more responsibilities than women, still dont have all the social privileges, while women retained all their privileges and on top got not equal but more rights than men. women are legally and socially privileged in …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:47 PM
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NO, because they are not equal biologically. you have no idea what value is, and how and where it is distributed in sexual dimorphism. It is fundamentally asymmetric. Men and women have evolved to fit different roles, and their bodies are specialized for their role. A man is meant to fight and create ressources from the enviroment for himself and the group , the woman is specialized in getting ressources from men, and redirect them in a balanced way to ensure the survival of the own genes , and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 02:21 PM
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do you understand that a relationship without sexual attraction equals a onesided investment on the mans side? What is he getting for the benefits that the woman receives for being in a relationship? Men dont throw away their ressources, energy and time for free. they want something in return, sex and intimacy, and you saying why arent they just slaves for women with nothing in return? lol f off
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:55 PM
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you fundamentally dont get what a relationship IS. the foundation is not "love", impulsive love is temporary and "love" is what is killing the west. Its about cooperation, implying and exchange of VALUE with a productive common goal. You must provide value, because a relationship means value is flowing from the man to the woman by default, much more than in return. If you remove sexual attraction, why would I protect someone and invest ressources in that person? What am I getting in return? all …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:52 PM
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