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All these people must be old or brainwashed to think that dinner dates are still the "best" dating idea or even one that is a "good" idea. Dinner dates are boring AF until you are in a wonderful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 01:03 PM
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Go to the park. Avoid the subway. Sunshine is your best friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 01:41 PM
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Interesting men are able to get girls within their social classes before they make it big relative to their own lives and classes. It's all relative. There are still plenty of decent women who aren't white UMC people. Working men with fun personalities can succeed just as well as anyone when it comes to women. It's not about outright success levels. It's about being a "man" to the women you are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:10 PM
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a man's job is part of who he is. Only for the losers in life who get settled for. That is exactly my point. The men who are actually interesting can get the girl before they make it big. They have full personalities and work to build relationships in all areas of their lives all the time. The whole complaint from men who get settled for is a result of their own inadequacy. It's their own fault they are not social and cool enough to have women dating them before they get their money or job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:51 PM
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You're changing the topic. My point is that you can't always fuck on the first date and sometimes you might have a chance to but it will cost to much to make it worth it. Someone who goes on dates with the MO to always fuck on the first date is a gross personality to have. It's almost like you are a monkey and can't just let things happen naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:48 PM
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play bullshit games Would you really put yourself through logistics hell just to bang on the first date? Expensive uber rides, staying up way too late on a work night, wasting money at the bar, paying for everything? Just to get a slice of clam from a woman you met hours earlier? It's not always about you being not good enough to get it. It's like you are detached from the layer of reality between you and being successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:37 PM
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Skinny vs fat is completely different than a job. The job you can change overnight, the human body just can't do that. Also, status markers are specifically what I was referring to rather than physical appearance. There are lots of guys who are physically hot enough but do not have the social status or are in a lower social class. If you never dated before the guy had money how will you ever know it's not about what you can provide instead of who you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:34 PM
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Rich girls don't need the paper, just emotional security. That is some top level game right there man. Cheers to being elite at your craft! haha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:01 PM
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It's the only worthwhile outcome. Geez dude you must really have bad blue balls
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:57 PM
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Being so expecting of sex on the first date just reeks of insecurity. If you are normal and relaxed, sometimes it happens on its own. If you had a great date it is definitely not the end of the world at all and may lead to being able to see them for more than just a night lol Kissing them on the first date is definitely a must though. If you are ever going to bang, you gotta kiss them on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:56 PM
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The whole point is that whoever you end up with should be someone who was willing to date you before you got that "sweet gig". Someone who is willing to be by your side as you climb the ladder. Not hop on later once you made it into a high enough social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:54 PM
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Men should be keeping their houses/apts clean because it's nice to live in a clean home, not because your woman is complaining. If you let your relationship get to "let's try some choreplay" metaphorically speaking, you fucked up a long time ago and deserve some cold shoulder. Really though, this is a phenomenon of low quality men. Just like most of the other "relationship problems" seen on this sub. Low quality people bring about 99% of all discussions on here lol Side question: Why do you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:01 PM
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wooo finally made it to the 1% of something!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 02:27 AM
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If you say he doesn't have to call and he takes you at your word, it's not fair to get mad at him. Listened to my gf on valentines day last year "I dont want to go out, lets just have dinner at home and have a nice evening" I think she respected me for more for giving her words weight despite the little fit she threw haha Chicks who can't handle being treated like an adult with agency and would blow up over something like that are one of the main types of women TRP is describing. Unfortunately M…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:53 AM
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I'm surrounded by other guys who are too much of a fucking pussy to talk to a girl out of fear for rejection. Definitely this. It's pretty difficult to find other guys who are down to go cold approach women, even at parties or in line at starbucks or whatever. Most are just afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/17 02:30 PM
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Life is work. Do the work or quit bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:43 PM
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If you really have no interest in relationships or family then of course it really doesn't matter. Though I think it's dishonest to yourself to say that "it's not what I want/worth it" until a real effort is made. I feel that way about everything in life btw. Just think about it every once in a while and decide if it's still how you really feel. We humans are really good at convincing ourselves of things just to make our lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 08:36 PM
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Perhaps living in wyoming is giving you access to only low quality men. Go where the money is to find motivated and responsible guys. Giving up on it completely only solidifies your own failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 08:09 PM
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dam your not even ugly at all, in fact definitely got the physical smv. You better be going out mackin' on chicks getting that game up. Your presence and attitude have gotta be the only things holding you back. All of us who succeeded put in the real world work to build up those skills. It will suck as bad as heavy ass deadlifts, but if you can do those week in and week out you can take the mental blows no prob.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:24 PM
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You should know that controlling that sex drive is also just part of being a man. Men who succeed control their desires. Weak, loser men cannot constrain their innate tendencies long enough to bring themselves some success. It's just a part of the male existence. Those who complain aren't men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:15 PM
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Something like hiking for example, or a drunk painting night at a bar, or attending a street festival or something, shit even going to your local farmers market for an hour. Those are all "hanging out" and "dates" at the same time. People just have no imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 04:37 AM
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Getting B average in mech e is really not that hard compared to getting a 4.0 gpa. C average is waaay easier. It's not hard to pass if you give it any real amount of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:14 PM
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College isn't that hard, even for engineering or pre med majors. There is always plenty of time to chase pussy. People who can't find the time were just disorganized or extremely lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 08:13 PM
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someone who is constantly trying to play stupid childish mind games with me? Can I really be with someone who is disgusted when I show some Humanity to her?" Never attribute malice to stupidity or ignorance. Women aren't any more shitty than men, they are just more annoying and shitty in different ways. You're not friends with all men, why would you think all or even most women would be people who you actually like?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:29 PM
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If men werent thirsty fucks You're telling me lol. I Also blame men for the results of the SMP. The mindset of a cuck. You know, betabux husbands often think they're better than others because they "got" a wife. No matter how hot the woman is a man will have to deal with "unintentional manipulation". In fact it will probably be worse the hotter she gets. This has nothing to do with beta bux bitch ass dudes. That guy is just too much of a pussy to call out the woman on bad behavior because he is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:58 PM
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Defending women who manipulate men. That's what chicks do. Deal with it or don't. Just stop complaining about how the world actually is. You should see women looking to you for strength and direction as a good thing, it means they trust you. Dealing with the unintentional manipulation will never stop anyway, you will have to become a master of handling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:29 PM
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This is a well documented phenomenon You do realize that your argument is just as anecdotal and impossible to prove as what you say is wrong, right? You never made a singular arguable point. You made a broad assertion that can be interpreted in an infinite number of ways to suit your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 03:36 PM
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You're arguing a point that only you are aware of. It's dishonest and a waste of time. These posts are only useful if you make ONE argument and stick with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 02:24 PM
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You're looking for a 1 in 100,000 type guy. Expect that kind of odds. It wont be easy to find him. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:17 AM
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If you have real personal interests to talk about you aren't basic lol Like 2 years ago I spent a lot of time going out to my college campus to actually talk to girls (not hitting on them at all, just - hey lets chat im waiting for class). At least 80-90% had no real interests worth conversing about. I even had women straight up admit that they were just not very interesting at all. There were some interesting people for sure but they were few and far between. I found that girls who were raised …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:13 AM
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Staying fit and hot means you appreciate your awesome relationship and so decide to keep yourself attractive and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:08 AM
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Rejecting someone's romantic advances isn't mean. It's not about that. People in general are much nicer towards attractive people, let alone someone they are actually attracted to. It's not usually a conscious effort, but there is definitely a difference. Interacting as friends removes any possibility of romance, thus neutralizes the situation. There is really no way to deny that women treat good looking men better, let them do bad things without calling them out, etc. Men also do the same thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 11:02 AM
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As friends it is obviously not true. As a romantic prospect, it is definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 05:46 PM
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Granted, RPW has helped me shift my frame but the difference in education makes it easier. I still disagree that it's primarily about the education. It's about the competence that being educated brings. But really it's about someone being smart and confident. There are plenty of work men who are just as competent and confident in the world that you could see them the same way as your husband. The other men were just not up to your standards in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:43 AM
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It had nothing to do with college. If you lost respect it they had to have been plain old incompetent. Plenty of incompetent people graduate too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:27 AM
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Also, if I were "happy on my own", I would just be alone forever. Close. It means you could be along forever and still be happy. Not that being alone is the best thing or the only thing. Just something. If you truly reach a place where you could be OK with being alone forever, then congrats! You made it to don't give a fuck land. There's nothing more to lose if you are ready to die alone, so go live it up!!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 06:40 PM
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The typical self improvement advice is mostly bs and for people who are almost there. The real reason you need to stay on your own mission is because that is what will keep you sane. Having goals of your own aside from women that are achievable and exciting to you are extremely important. It's not like I stopped doing all of the stuff that I enjoyed just because "oh hey, I have a gf now, its a waste lol". Having a foundation of achievement helps to no end with anything in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:52 PM
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but more often than not it is said by people who have no business saying it - i.e., people happily dating I think you have the causality wrong here. In my experience, the only way to get a wonderful relationship, is to be happy yourself. You can't expect to be happy with anyone else until you're happy on your own. It would be like me listening to a poor guy complaining about being barely able to afford food Wrong again on the analogy. The correct framing would say: Feed yourself first so you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:39 PM
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And they're right not to. Self-improvement has consistently been shown to have very low chances of success for hardcore incels. It has the potential to succeed, but it's been shown to far more likely fail AND inflict damage in the process. But again - you don't know that because you never bothered to do any research Lmao, really? Who ever said that self improvement for your own sake was damaging? Continuously building yourself, for yourself is a key part of successful people. Not even like lifti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 03:31 PM
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The email says that he got physical when rejected. That has nothing to do with cold approaching. That has to do with mentally unstable individuals. I had one hell of an awesome time approaching girls on my campus. The only difference is that I could take rejection in stride. It was eye opening to actually just talk to these girls instead of straight hitting on them instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 02:21 PM
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The type of person who is accustomed to certain advantages of women's position in dating, so come to expect them. That is in contrast with someone who understands that despite having advantages, those perks cannot be expected from what amounts to basically strangers. Men having the expectation to buy stuff for women on the very first time they meet is an example of sexism benefiting women. So it continues to be "normal". It's not wrong to have these expectations, that is how most women in the US…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 10:25 PM
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lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:49 PM
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Seems much more of an expectations mismatch. You are basically proving his point that it is an effective filter for certain types of women. Some women, such as you, expect things like that from men. Other women do not. Me and Scurvemuch prefer to date the women who do not expect those kinds of things from us. Also i will say he is right that most all girls do have the same expectations that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:49 PM
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It's about starting with level expectations. Scurvemuch is right, it's not about the money. If she asked I would get something. But I won't hand it over and get it before we meet just because she's a woman. That is sexist. edit: Also personally, I feel that my time is worth an equal amount as any woman's, therefore since I spent all of the effort to approach and organize the meet that I should also not be expected to buy free shit for them. A woman who said "hey thanks for setting up this date, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 07:41 PM
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Women make money too these days. The times of men needing to show provider traits or "take care" of a woman on the first date are looong gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 09:41 PM
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I got the impression from OP that #1 was a girl going starfish on you. Like a dead fish. Floppy and unresponsive. That is definitely weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:39 PM
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i don't like sex with a wimpy guy who lacks confidence. It's not a lack of confidence when the woman literally goes limp and stops participating. That is weird as fuck. OP was saying that women literally go limp and expect him to continue. Which is most definitely a red flag. I've even missed chances for sex because I didn't push a girl up against the wall and start getting nasty within literally 15 minutes of meeting her. Looking back it was probably better that I never tangled with her. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:38 PM
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Better next time is the ONLY metric you should hold yourself to! Improvement is the best barometer for success!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:00 PM
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Balls is the limiting factor on quantity. And game will determine your batting average. These are factors men can definitely control. And seriously, who sees getting women as anything much different than closing sales? The guys who fall behind just have the defeatest attitudes and are unwilling to really reform their personas for success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:59 PM
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We dated as college kids so "dates" were Dutch and mostly pitchers of beer and burritos. he best way to know who is what! Love your flair btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:57 PM
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Sounds like a fun time! Hope it's all going well :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:54 PM
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you always make me laugh! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:52 PM
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Sex is not worth shit once you get enough. Otherwise for men it's worth the world. The wise men of this land know how to get laid and about it's limited personal achievement feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:51 PM
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Their lives suck ass. Welcome to settling for less!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:50 PM
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Completely agree. Thanks for bringing rational thought in here! Your post really makes me want to do something nice for my gf, I cant wait to show her! :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:50 PM
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You're right. people generally suck ass. It's just hard to know what to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:48 PM
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yup shes on point!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:47 PM
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It's still pathetic to disregard personal integrity regardless. The reason women don't stick with men who make such sacrifices is because they can't respect a man who sacrifices his personal integrity for some puss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:46 PM
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I get where you are coming from. Just avoid those girls who expect you to pay. it's SO obvious. I mean, come on dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:45 PM
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butt....vagina!!!!! lmao. Those guys are so pathetic. Coming from a dude, those guys get ZERO respect from men with prowess. It might impress their trailer park or suburban buddies, but men with money expect you to actually get a good deal, even in relationships. Especially relationships. It shows what you are truly willing to settle for, or settle at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:43 PM
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Thank you for the realistic reply. I feel the same!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:40 PM
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Relationships cost time or money. You know that going in. Expecting it to be "free" is some naive bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:40 PM
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Christmas, Valentine's day and sit inside and play video games, watch netflix with her 247 because you've landed a girl unless you give 0 fucks about maintaining an ltr Men with game can always spin these things in their favor. I literally just got my gf a super cute and hilarious thing from the goodwill for fucks sake. It just takes imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:38 PM
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especially balls. It takes a ton of chutzpah to proposition a girl into hooking up in a park or the bathroom of a coffee shop. Even guys who are 6-7 can pull this off. It's that unshakable, amazing eye contact and stuff. Once you are over the hotness bar, everything falls on your level of ballsiness. Pussies don't score for exactly that reason, they are weak ass motherfuckers!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:36 PM
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you are thinking about men in the upper tiers who never pay for shit. Lots of guys are ugly and have a misguided view of dating and pay for shit all the time. Since that is most definitely not me, I always have a hard time empathizing. Are they idiots through an through or just products of their circumstance that you may have been as well given the conditions? Tough questions...it's hard to know who's right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 10:33 PM
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Everyone is giving you really over complicated adivce. As long as you are having FUN pretty much every time you see each other, that's all you really need. If you can smile when you see him no matter your mood and have a laugh then you are truly compatible with him and it will be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 02:58 PM
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I used to be hardcore red, but it only got more difficult to stay that way when red pillers say the things that you are. It's just so disconnected from reality that it's hard to take seriously. I think bloops are equally crazy but damn if a lot of the reds are just as crazy as the blues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 12:14 AM
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I'm confused. You didn't make a counter argument there. Some more fleshed out ideas would be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:17 PM
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That's beside the point that is most relevant. Can you refute this: There is a huge lack of real love with the AF/BB strategy. Not everyone is enough of a narcissist or sociopath to pull off AF/BB and feel just fine mentally. That was my main argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:01 PM
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When it's easy for a guy to get with hot chicks, his selection criteria gets more strict. Just the same way it does with women. At least with intelligent guys (both social and logical intelligence). Despite what TRP and a bunch of users may have you believe, there is much more to enjoying your relationships with women than pure beauty. Once getting hot girls is not a problem, other traits become of larger importance. Much like how rich people have far more discerning tastes than the poor. Once y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:22 AM
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you'd need to be pretty judgmental to pass judgement on someone like that I wasn't passing judgement. It's no secret that respect will never be developed by pure passivity. One must be an actor and DO things to earn respect. Gold diggers never DO anything compared to those people who earn a living. don't beautiful and intelligent women do this kind of thing all the time in order to cash in on their great genetics? The beautiful and actually intelligent women do not cash in on their beauty like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 01:55 AM
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There's nothing wrong with it. But really it's just a short sighted strategy. No one wants to be tied down to someone they have contempt for regardless of how much money comes with it. RPW are looking for a steadier, more fulfilling life that will be shared with someone they love. There is a huge lack of real love with the AF/BB strategy. Not everyone is enough of a narcissist or sociopath to pull off AF/BB and feel just fine mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 10:17 PM
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Assholes are good at maintaining respect is why women stay committed. Loving men need to command some power like the assholes to get that commitment. Many loving men are too soft for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:53 PM
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What do you think changed? They started letting up. Eased off the gas pedal a bit. Got lazy. Men in this world are in a constant and never ending role. We must continue action until the end. We bring value to the world through action. Having to ask for respect, kindness or anything that should be a given means someone lost that kind of treatment in the past by letting that part of the relationship die.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 03:52 PM
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I didn't state this. OK. You sated that: most loving men are delusional. and therefore: Most loving men will also not have a committed woman. Which I believe to be completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:58 PM
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most loving men are delusional. I do not believe that is true. How could you state that a loving man could also not have a committed woman? There ARE people who really do love each other and show it with commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:51 PM
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even if she is showing by actions that she can take him or leave him. Competent men know that uncommitted (showing with actions her indifference) partners are definitely not their "one". It's easy to understand that commitment is a prerequisite for love. Delusional men try to "make things work" with their "one" when it is clear that they will not. It's pure self denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:45 PM
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so the point is, MOST men in MOST relationships start off at a handicap. Probably MOST guys who involve themselves in the manosphere in any way. But general population? I would at least like to think otherwise. There are many competent men out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:31 PM
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Okay, I will admit that it can be hard to empathize after finding TRP and using it for success so early in life. Never had a chance to make such a long term relationships mistake. Married people can't simply "stop dating." Isn't that kinda what dread game is? Pull out of most communication and work on yourself? Living in the same house but not fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:29 PM
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If they say they believe in open communication, but think openly communicating "I wish you would respect me more" or something similar "leads nowhere," then they're trying to eat their cake and have it, too. Communication works sometimes, it's just another tool in the toolbox. But when a man is saying "I wish you would respect me more" he is already so fucked that he needs WAY better tools. Don't hate the tool for only doing what it does. Blame the people who use it at the wrong time expecting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:25 PM
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If you have never been in a relationship where your resources, time and so on were deeply committed to it, and had some lagging doubts about due to observed actions rather then words, there is very little that you can actually comment on here, because quite simply, its not a life experience you had. being at the level of "should" doesn't work. Sounds like a relationship where "actions, not words" was not clearly stated and enforced throughout. It has to start with the assumption of actions being…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:20 PM
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This is only a problem for men who suck ass. In relationships that have any chance of working, the woman respects the man without question - he's shown her that he deserves it. Open, direct communication works great when the woman in attracted and committed like you said. The example you gave is dumb, because seriously, who asks politely for respect? It's something that is earned, commanded and enforced. No one cares about people who nicely ask for respect and kindness. Those true relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 02:17 PM
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Women who behave as you described in the OP get absolutely zero respect. High value, top tier women would never settle for such a meaningless existence at the mercy of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:25 PM
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Thanks for getting this sentiment in here. It's like these guys have never met a poor chick who has to WORK a lot just for a decent life. My gf works 5-6 10 hour days every week and I am so much more impressed with her because of that work ethic. Women who hang around and play the part in the OP will never get respect like women with competence. Reddit must really be a suburbs and up social class type of thing. It's like they can't fathom people without money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 01:24 PM
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I thought the idea in the OP of confidence manifesting as grace was a great way to describe the amount that women should apply. Being graceful requires some mediation of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:03 PM
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The difference is basically just preference. 9 vs 10 is a girl who is your type vs just super duper sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 05:01 PM
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Being more confident is another one of those suggestions that assume someone is already attractive. I'm surprised you forgot that. Women who are decent looking but have zero confidence lose to a slightly less good looking but more confident and fun woman. Seeing girls with their shoulders rolled forward and not standing up straight is just SO unattractive (just like in men). Plus, lez b real, we both know guys who jump through hoops just fo' some of dat ass are losers or weirdos. The men who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 04:57 PM
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Isn't that RPs whole thing though? Assuming what people will do? I guess you could call it an "assumption" because that's what it looks like from the outside, but really it's hedging your bets. Most of the RP stuff is based on personal experience for what happens "more often than not", which looks like you are assuming stuff but there is a critical difference. Your comment in which you said: Only a fool would assume Is attempting to predict the thoughts of a person. RP material uses "more likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 12:49 PM
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Only a fool would assume Risky play there. We both know that assuming what people will and won't do is a complete waste of time. It's a lazy and garbage debate tactic to pull out stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:13 AM
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Surprised? I'm not. But your OP was about conflation between the two. The authors are aware that the terms mean the same thing, they just don't care. So your direct argument is wrong, but the sentiment is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/17 01:10 AM
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it's just so gay Sick burn, no coming back from that one! lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:34 PM
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I think families are being destroyed by men refusing to man up, not feminists. What do you mean here by the term "man up"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:33 PM
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I understand what you are saying, and that people really do not argue honestly and stuff. But what do you actually think about my comment? Surely the authors of these papers know they are using redundant terms? Or is is borne out of some condescending view that most people are too dumb to understand one includes the other, like you were saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:30 PM
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I think /u/soccerstar77 kinda missed the point of why this is important. It really has nothing to do with the definition of either rape or sexual assault. I think that we can all agree that sexual assault includes rapes. However, the disconcerting part about the whole thing is that given our agreement on definitions, using "rape or sexual assault" becomes a deliberately redundant term. The authors purposefully use extra words to say the same thing for effect. The word RAPE is a strong word that …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:27 PM
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It's not misleading or untrue, its a psychological tactic to garner stronger emotional response.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:21 PM
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What about using the phrase "rape or sexual assault" is not the truth? It may be literally factual, but these studies hijack the word rape and use it everywhere for shock value. They want people to get emotionally charged and more affected by their results. They could just leave it at just sexual assault but that is never the case. There is certainly a strong motive behind using these redundant terms other that "just cause".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:20 PM
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rape and sexual asslt actually ARE interchangeable so why always make a point of mentioning it twice? It's redundant yes? The word rape just has such a more visceral and intense reaction from people that it gets hijacked as an attention getter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:16 PM
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The issue is that they always shoehorn in the word "rape" to make the statement seem more intense. They should be using the general term, "sexual assault" that covers rape instead of calling it out explicitly. You would think those women's rights people would understand that rape is included in sexual assault implicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 09:15 PM
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I blew a shot at a record like that. Girl on tinder was so down for the 15 minute intro I was just thrown off and missed the cue. After we walked out of her bedroom it was over lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 06:00 PM
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He's totally right. Having the attitude where you get back up and try 2x as hard will get you where you want to be in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 04:03 PM
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I mean in my experience, insecure guys mentally fuck with chicks, usually pretty nasty that way but they save the fista cuffs for other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 03:55 PM
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You were right about at least one thing from TRP, that people need their own interests. Based on the assumption that your man would enjoy supporting your own interests: No doubt if you had motivation to keep your hobbies, social groups and such going well men would stay much more interested. Being motivated to wake up early on a Saturday and go to an event, meetup or something related to an interest of yours is how you keep the energy going. But I do want to point out that being a "co captain" d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 03:51 PM
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I was just trying to explain that he was being biased. Insecure men usually act aggressively against other men, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/17 03:38 PM
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Everyone learns their skills somehow. Playing catch-up is not an indicator of true personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:44 PM
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What's your deal with the definitions anyway? They're vague on purpose, don't you get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:42 PM
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Trying to define success for someone else is probably one of the biggest wastes of time in this universe. Everyone has to decide what is success for themselves. If hardcore manospheroids feel successful based on their own metrics, then yes they are a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:24 PM
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You prove my point that the only reference point worth anything is your own. We don't all live in the same place or same markets, having universal ratings is completely meaningless and a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:22 PM
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ITT: We learn most of the women on PPD are also introverts with far less social experience than is always claimed when the anecdata is brought out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 01:31 PM
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You are such a smug jerk about it. Perhaps if you used a relative rating scale based on your own experiences it would help ease your butthurt. HB7 = top 30% of all women you have ever seen IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:36 PM
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You may just have a definition in mind that is synonymous with success, but "game" itself it a bit different. Sales people have "game", so do business men who close the most deals. "Game" is pure ability to use social skills for the purpose of convincing people do act with you towards your own interests (which is perceived as mutual by them). In general it's a catch all term for the countless small behaviors and nuances that culminate in a successful ONS, job offer or business deal. This is why …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:28 PM
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Whoever decides to take the leading role in a relationship should expect to have very minor insecurities. Leaders must be confident and secure for success. So if you want to have your insecurities tolerated, find yourself a woman who like to lead. Also, get used to being second in command. Men like to lead more than women. Hence the tolerance for insecurity is far lower. Also, being confident repels insecurity because it is much easier to be honest about your shortcomings and work on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:12 PM
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Saying its "not fair", hypocritical or whatever in regards to topics like the one this thread is about is a complete waste of time. It will never be "fair" in regards to what behavior is attractive or acceptable to normal people. Most all relationships follow a dynamic where each partner has complimentary roles. That means they will be providing value and taking value in different ways. Ultimately any couple can do things how they want, so could make it more "fair" if they so choose. If men want…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 05:07 PM
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"...or at least that's what she expects" Assuming she shares your view of the situation. Insecure guys usually fight other guys for no reason, not beat their woman. "hey bro did u just insult my girl? see me bitch!! What?? pussy cant handle himself?!? lets go bitch!" etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 04:58 PM
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Lengthy, meticulous and thorough work finding bugs and thinking about logical systems. There are only absolutes, no gray areas, yes or no, 1 or 0. Feelings are never discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 05:52 PM
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discover some of his really bad habits after a year (lazy, is getting fatter, is not as intelligent as he seemed to be) and she loses attraction. Couples that are truly in love and view their relationship in a healthy way do not lose attraction in a month because of a newly discovered habit. If women can't spend the time to nicely tell their partners that they expect them to stay in shape before things get bad, then both are to blame. Letting dissatisfaction fester for fear of confrontation is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 04:10 PM
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Or else most incels would go fuck a fat woman. Many guys do. You already know that. Please stop arguing in bad faith. Incels are irrelevant to the SMP anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:19 PM
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With these freedoms comes responsibility. Without good parenting many young women end up doing things they regret later. Some live the casual relationship lifestyle and that's cool. But I really feel for the chicks who follow the hype and end up really disappointed at the end. There are a lot of cultural messages to young teens and college age women who are still developing that over-hype harmful habits. Since women are more inclined to follow group preference I think that they have felt more of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:17 PM
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But we just established they have to stay with the guys who suck because Chad won't get them commitment! If your best option still sucks guess what - It's not just them who sucks. Women need to have the same accountability and understand that it's not always just the guy. Like attracts like - your partner is a reflection of your value! (No way you could disagree with that) Men who care about their family generally want to be in their kid's life. That means dealing with the baby like you mentione…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:11 PM
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They accomplish a well designed evolutionary purpose: to keep the couple together as long as it is necessary for the baby to grow up. Seems like we are looking at this from opposite perspectives. You, from the biological origin and end result, and me from the first person, what is happening in the moment. Thinking that zoomed out in regard to relationships won't ever let you live in the moment with someone you love. Being present with your partner is extremely important. Living with every action…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:06 PM
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the average woman is not attracted to the average man They should be, that's their league. Those women, just like the delusional men, need to date within their league to get something they will actually enjoy afterwards. Women just have the illusion of choice - that those more valuable options are real. Truth is they are fleeting and immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:02 PM
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because they have too many responsibilities. I thought that's what women wanted? More power = more responsibility. Anyway most of those "overworked wives" are stressed because they are in relationships with loser guys who suck. Guys they chose.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:08 PM
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Man, i guess we just will never agree. Your personality sounds so clinical and cold. There are very few women who are like that compared to men. It's just a bit odd that you automatically dismiss the emotional side of relationships. It's the intimacy and shared emotions (like after sex cuddles for example, or going through hard times) that bond couples. Without any kinds of feelings, with time we can create feelings of affection Will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:04 PM
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Sounds like you are completely unwilling to compromise with the logical thinker part. You won't find a sweet girl with any real kinds of feminine behaviors with those criteria. My awesome relationship with my gf has showed me that spending a little effort to understand (not take as my own) the feminine communication styles is a major success factor. Words need not be said and people can communicate. Requiring such strict logic requirements is pure projection of your own values. It would feel lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:27 PM
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Great comment, I completely agree! Men don't need to lead all the time, just women should give it a shot with a competent man. Maybe that's exactly the problem, these women can't get a competent man. Or perhaps their partner choosing skills are not very good. Women feeling this sentiment likely had to settle for a "non-ideal candidate" and are just bitching about it on the back end. Makes me wonder then, if these women are in the gender flipped position of red pillers who married low quality par…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/17 03:45 PM
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This is a direct effect of women marrying pathetic losers who are lazy slobs. There are plenty of men who can maintain a household by themselves without much effort. These women seem to be complaining of incompetent buffoons. THE SOLUTION: Get married to someone competent. You won't have to bitch and moan about things being done half assed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 09:58 PM
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Oh sure, I'm not saying these hobbies are a way for them to meet women. Just that they have hobbies outside of "work, gym, video games." Yeah they do, but it's just watching WWE RAW on the weekends abd buying/building lego kits they always wanted. Also, Gym is definitely not one of their hobbys or something they have done in the last year at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 01:18 PM
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People tend to focus on skills that come naturally to them. For some it's science and not social stuff, for some the other way. My point is that most people are not interested in spending a lot of energy learning the other skill set because it is difficult for them. This includes "smart" "intelligent" rocket scientists. People work hard in ways they care about and are lazy as fuck in regard to things they dont. Most scientists are lazy as fuck when it comes to being casanova romance master. Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 12:38 AM
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Same situation, agree completely. Got lucky and found a girl on tinder. First date was Rock climbing. Made puns worse than mine and dirtier. Still dating a year later and loving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 06:24 PM
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succour Thanks for my new vocab word. Diggin the variety around here!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 05:00 PM
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Lol lazy scientists. Yeah, they are fucking lazy, unless they have autism there is no excuse for ignoring social skills. The same way sales people are almost all people skills and less technical ability. Anyone who is unwilling to learn about disciplines that will compliment their existing skills is EXACTLY: lazy, in denial, or have a shitty attitude/major ego complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:45 AM
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These days the smart business kids do Supply Chain or something specifically related to an operational area in business. A Business Communications degree is probably the most generic "I graduated college" type of qualification. But yeah very few students hustle hard enough to get higher paying jobs. Most of that is just great social skills and networking though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:31 PM
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Success with the business degree relies much more on the industriousness and motivation of the degree holder than other majors. Some kids make a ton of cash and others wallow in their own self pity. Most just do OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:18 PM
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This was my experience in college. Was one of those dudes. lol. Best of both worlds baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:14 PM
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You're right about the humanities. Unfortunately many graduates today just don't have the confidence, energy or will to take initiative and find roles in a wide array of industries outside of the humanities where they can leverage their skills. I see the same thing even with other majors too. Students are not very willing to look outside of their major's traditional industry for jobs. It's like they can't even use google to do some more extensive research and find those jobs like you are talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:11 PM
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If they were as smart as their egos would suggest, they could see that social skills are something they could learn just like calculus. Training both hemispheres of your brain shouldn't be too complicated for an idea for "smart people". They are just lazy, in denial, or have a shitty attitude/major ego complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:18 PM
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The major choice is mostly not relevant to an individuals' success in any respective field. The main difference that I see is ambition, dedication and interest in their work. Wanting to take promotions and increase responsibility. Never settling for less in their career, etc. It's too bad most career women are seen as bitchy but that isn't so different from men being assholes if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 06:12 PM
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To me the people who are salty just suck at playing the game of life. Accepting and understanding what works on tinder is not rocket science. Many guys just see angling your profile for max success as "selling out" instead of "winning". Guys think that they are cheapening their personality by playing the tinder games, and that is exactly why they fail. You ARE cheapening your personality because you are going after women with flat, boring and usually uninteresting lives anyway. Gotta play the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:22 PM
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I agree that there are likely some issues, but if you check out the source website for the article it is completely ripe with a feminist alternate reality. They basically use all the tricks to avoid female accountability. http://www.aauw.org/article/new-report-women-and-student-debt/ “Women face a catch-22: go to college and take on student loan debt but get a higher paying job or, alternatively, forgo college and avoid the debt, but be locked out of higher-wage careers. We need to do better,” s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 04:18 PM
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Sometimes unattractive qualities are only noticeable in real life. Kinda a bs answer I know but for real chicks have ESP for the weirdo types. I done seent that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:43 PM
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In my experience going out to talk to women during the day and in nightlife compared to tinder it completely matters on your demographic. Young women (early-mid 20's) seem much less receptive to IRL interactions than meeting through tinder. Probably something to do with the realities they grew up in. Now obviously success can be had with both ways. I seduced a woman within 30 minutes of meeting her IRL, and also was rejected by a girl on tinder because I didn't make aggressive sexual moves withi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:40 PM
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He could still be a total creep. That shit is unforgivable no matter how hot you are. It would be a beta bucks relationship if the guy was a weirdo creep. She would not be there for the love. Also, "I cant put my dick in her college degree" swapped genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:35 PM
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Make a new FB account with the same profile pics and stuff, then DONT swipe for everyone. You're not going to fuck the fatties anyway (and promptly unmatch them if you do match) so just stop. Swiping right on everything gets your profile shown to lower tier users. Don't think that tinder isn't using all the stats they can get on their users. They know who is hot. Just don't act thirsty, you'll do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:34 PM
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Swiping a lot probably fucks with your ranking in their algorithm. That shit puts you right at the bottom of their system, and doesn't show you to the actually hot girls that are like you. Only swipe on chicks that you might actually want to fuck and not everyone including the fatties you would unmatch immediately. Check it out on google, there is definitely something to the tinder algorithms that can make or break it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:30 PM
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Tinder is MUCH easier than going out IRL if you know how to setup the profiles and are good at texting. I've been out approaching and on tinder for a few years, tinder lays are far less effort. I'm young 20's tho so it is probably different for older people. There are a lot more young women on tinder than around 30's. In a big city there is really no comparison. The women already have and idea of whether they are gonna fuck you on tinder when you meet up. Sometimes it only takes an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:29 PM
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either way...even 1 in 100 is shocking. Telling men that 1 in 100 kids aren't theirs is a sobering thought. That is pretty high odds for the number of kids born every day!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 03:29 AM
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Good advice for the gentleman. Escalating is demonstrating your attraction, and very important regardless of whether she defends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 06:15 PM
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dumbass hysterics decided to conflate that to mean just rape. Yeah and the word rape just numbs people to facts. Their bullshit worked. That is what is so maddening about it. Not their methods, results or whatever. Just how effectively people ate up that bullshit stat and parade it around like a scalped head.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:18 AM
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The misleading part of it was positioning the narrative such that it seemed higher than usual. Young women going to house parties anywhere are going to be getting similar experiences. It really has nothing to do with college per se, and everything to do with drunk teenagers. The activist people are just great at spinning the message to their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 12:15 AM
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Anything following the Scientific method is science. Math is usually just the easiest way to interpret results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:33 PM
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We are supposed to just turn a blind eye to it all out there. You're right about this and it's still one of the things that annoys me the most. The fact that people simply can't or won't own up to their intentions while calling them out also makes you an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:18 PM
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I completely agree with your post, but lets be real and admit that there are quite a few guys on TRP who are waaayy beyond what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:15 PM
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Simple courtesy. That goes way beyond gender. Good luck getting any real significant percent of people to develop "simple courtesy" for the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 05:21 PM
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Those guys do it to men too. Someone with any kind of confidence can ask them to move. Some people will only react if prompted. Like women leaving their bags on the seat and wont just move it for you, you gotta ask for that shit! Same deal with guys. Quit being such weenies and tell people what you want! (men and women, pussy guys are just the same)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 05:18 PM
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Satisfied doesn't mean happy. it means good enough. Settling. Would you settle for your relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 06:01 PM
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I think the best way to put it is that you get the behavior you incentivize. shoulda just left it here. thats the bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 05:47 PM
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I can tell you're a bit of a codger. People think differently now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 05:31 PM
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The hard thing to prove is whether that person would have been unattractive before they acted that way. Some people have far less sexually attractive auras before they swing over to the dbag spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 01:47 PM
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How can you assume that those specific people would still be attractive to you otherwise? You can't. Your claim is unfalsifiable anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:53 PM
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Redpillers only wanted sex anyway, not a relationship with their FWB or fuck buddies. You gave them exactly what they wanted. Their "tactics" worked on you. How is that not clear? You were the only one mentioning relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 09:30 PM
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Thanks. You're right that we're eternal students. I'll reserve my disdain for those who are openly mocking education instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:11 PM
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Being extra confident. Developing a warm and welcoming smile and demeanor. Ability to get someone talking about themselves. Reading body language and general feeling quickly. Being able to confidently make eye contact with anyone. Learning to speak slower, with a bit more authority and much more smoothly. Generally got my BS in communications by doing that haha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:09 PM
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Yeah I agree, I see lots of men who are affected by those types of influence all the time. I just am really having a hard time caring anymore. Most of them are not interested in help, the ones who are usually start from square one. Why even give a fuck about the people who just can't figure it out by now? I kinda lament that feeling so if you have some interesting responses that would be nice :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 01:42 AM
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they still love their husband probably. The article would suggest only in a mental or logical capacity. When sexual and intimacy needs are met, people are not asking for "open relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 01:40 AM
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Your approach seems reasonable. I have a feeling that the couples in this article are not like you. We can only expect people to act on their incentives. Those with enough intellect to see future consequences usually keep impulsive feelings in check. These people do not appear capable of that. Either way, setting boundaries is the main way that people in relationships keep the ship steering straight and narrow. "Nip it in the bud", etc. Like I said before though, these couples sounded like their…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 01:39 AM
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I think losing your built up life in a divorce is as bad as getting dumped without any marketable skills or money. Sounds the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:33 PM
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Yeah I can see how these guys are missing information like that. But really anyone with boundaries and balls cuts out the bullshit a long time back. The biggest mistake these people made was being content with settling. Their relationships sounded really shitty right from the start. TL;DR Dumb people have trendy relationship problems, they are unhappy in ALL of the photos. Women just tryna get the last blood from the stone of their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:31 PM
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Men locked in marriages have just as bad of a deal as women locked in marriages. EDIT: These men are just as stuck in the arrangement as the women of yeras past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:27 PM
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It's not that simple. The whole bruhaha is about these women not just outright being honest and saying they are no longer attracted to their husbands. It's about these women having the gall to not only expect continued spousal support (within the marriage) and also disrespect these men to their face by saying "get over it". Either way, the women are shitty and the men are weak and deserve to reap what they sowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:58 PM
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Interesting point, you're right about it being switched from the past. The problem with that line of thinking is the amount of people capable of developing extra marital affairs. Men having a harder time getting it on the side is definitely an important factor to consider. Hypothetically speaking, if the rate of the open marriages is much larger than men's infidelity in the past I would say that it could not be equated. Additionally, it is far more disrespectful to have it out in the open, in fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:55 PM
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His in person vibe is probably extremely unattractive. Those traits you listed are cool, but think about the "I can't fuck her college degree" argument. That's the same thing for that guy with those academic achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:49 PM
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Her husband told me he had little interest in putting in the work necessary for even casual flings. “If I could meet someone for sex once a week with no emotional obligation, like a regular tennis game, I would do it,” he said. “But I already wooed someone, my wife,” he said. “I don’t want to have to do that again.” The bolded part of this quotation shows the true underlying cause of these marriages. Men quit. They stop romancing their wives. The men see these kinds of life achievements as one a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:44 PM
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I share the same perspective and experience with the TRP information. Changed my life, but I certainly am not a "follower of the teachings" haha You're right about the smart people using it to help shape themselves rather than modeling themselves after it's described image.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:32 PM
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One of the best things I have ever done was care about those things. Approaching women during the day helped me learn so many amazing life skills. Some people are just mentally trapped in their shitty realities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:20 PM
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Your family sounds amazing! Thanks for sharing another perspective. It's great to have some legitimate diversity haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:34 PM
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