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illTwinkleYourStar/r/MensRights24/07/13 07:24 PM
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Well, thanks for that well thought out case. I feel smarter already.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 04:42 AM
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I agree with this so much. My story is long, but suffice to say that while I share custody, my two older children live with their dad. Custody was not taken from me and I didn't "lose" in court. We decided what worked for us as a family. Anyway, at one point I belonged to a online support group for moms who don't live with their kids full time. I was shocked at how many of the women thought their children belonged with them simply because they're the moms, and also by how many of them weren't pa…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 05:17 PM
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As a mom paying child support, FUCK her. If she can't summon up the energy to fucking be a mom, the least she can do is pay. Erg.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 01:25 PM
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See, the thing about sarcasm is that it doesn't come through very well in text. It looked like you meant what you typed. In any case, their point is not that there shouldn't be a hierarchy, but that for men it's based on skills and traits, whereas for women it's based on "purity" or physical looks which women don't have a lot of control of. That's their problem.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 09:36 AM
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What?
/r/MensRights01/06/14 08:04 AM
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I'm going to answer honestly. In order to have status within a patriarchical society, one has to shame other women for doing X. That's how a person who believes in patriarchy theory would answer you.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 06:01 PM
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bared Borne. Also, what the hell are you talking about?
/r/MensRights31/05/14 06:00 PM
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Victimized how?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:14 PM
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There are very few feminist organizations and those that do existed are necessarily representative of most "feminists" you will encounter. They aren't elected or anything. There are many more "women's rights groups", which are not the same thing.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 05:11 PM
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OTOH, man-hating was an essential part of feminism right from the beginning, as was female dominance: It's Our Turn [to run things]. So how are you separating the feminists that are about self-determination and those that are interested in in female dominance? I suppose you understand that feminism isn't monolithic.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 03:09 PM
1

Ah, okay. So a woman doesn't have to be as pretty as a man does to experience "attractiveness privilege".
/r/MensRights27/05/14 03:00 PM
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So both men and women experience privilege if they're attractive, right?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:53 PM
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So would you say the privilege is due to the "woman" part, or the "attractive" part?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:29 PM
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Sadly, a lot of posters here use the terms interchangeably.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:25 PM
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It's not like that at all. Statistically speaking, most women report actual experiences that cause them to feel afraid. Most whites who are afraid have no actual experiences to report. It's based on hearsay. I support men's rights and can still tell you some awful stories.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:23 PM
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I think it's more likely that they're thinking, I don't even mess with that shit. Most of us take the easier route.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:11 PM
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The problem is that feminism isn't monolithic. There are so many branches and sub-branches that it's difficult to even find a definition for it.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:09 PM
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What in the ever-loving fuck are you on about?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:05 PM
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Anger is just a vent for poorly structured ideas. Yeah, but no. Anger is a requirement to start any kind movement. Anger can be power.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:04 PM
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Eh, any kind of social change requires some people like that. MLK legitimized the civil rights movement, but it's the Black Power people that really got shit moving.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:03 PM
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I think we should re-appropriate #bringbackourgirls in the context of bringing our women back from the edge of feminist extremism =/ Yes!
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:00 PM
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I find that my feminist friends and I usually want the same things but we have different ideas about how things went to shit and why. I don't usually have anyone that tells me men's issues aren't important, although I have, of course heard that they "aren't as bad". To which I say that we western women have got it comparatively easy, are we supposed to ignore our issues? I've lost a couple of friends, but good riddance.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 01:59 PM
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Are you saying that women are holders of privilege because people react to them differently based on their looks?
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:07 AM
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That's great, truly. The article, however, focuses on men that are raped by other men. It would have been a great opportunity to note that women can rape as well.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 11:14 AM
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Are you unable to read?
/r/MensRights29/01/14 04:44 PM
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Finish reading that sentence and get back to me.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 12:24 PM
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As I said, I'm talking about people who are already convinced.
/r/MensRights28/01/14 04:57 AM
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We definitely agree on yiur second point. The first, I'm not sure what you mean by idealistic. In what way?
/r/MensRights28/01/14 02:51 AM
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Whatever. If you want to waste the time and energy, have at it.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:50 PM
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I feel like you're being deliberately dense. One would think your time would be better spent not doing that.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:44 PM
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Then why would women need to "atone" for feminism?
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:39 PM
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Do you understand that not every woman is a feminist?
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:35 PM
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Nobody. Nobody needs to atone for something they did not do.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:25 PM
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So when are you going to start atoning for all the bad shit that happens to women?
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:19 PM
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You know what? We could argue about this forever because the front page is constantly changing. The fact is that there's too much of it. You making statements like "have you looked at the front page" is just, well, pointless.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:17 PM
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For the love of all that is holy, would you please read the damn sidebar before making comments like this? You are so ignorant of the purpose and goals of the MRM. Please inform yourself.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:12 PM
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Love it. Not feminists, women.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:11 PM
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God, how terrifying. She really sounds like a sociopath. Good to see that you won. I do wonder, though how you think that the court system in this case is flawed. What do you think should have happened?
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:08 PM
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No. This sub isn't called /r/men or /r/men venting. It's called Men's Rights and it's about the MRM. I understand that dudes are pissed and with good reason. Without going into a ton of detail, let me say that I support men, and men's rights issues. You'll have to trust me on that. But if you're going to claim to support the MRM, the mods are just going to have to do better.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:02 PM
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So we're all to stupid to recognize a smear campaign? It's just simply that the front page of this sub makes a lot of people really uncomfortable. MR talks more about feminism than men's rights.
/r/MensRights27/01/14 05:51 PM
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Then why do you think this sub has such a bad reputation. Even among MRAs?
/r/MensRights27/01/14 05:33 PM
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Because they are. Literally every single person I know that's interested in men's rights visited this sub for awhile and then stopped. We all realize that not everyone that posts here is an "anti-feminist circlejerking over how bad feminism is" but the majority of what gets upvoted, sadly is. This sub has been told so, so many times why people turn away from them, but the majority still seem to think that negativity is the way to go. I support men's rights with all my heart, and I even still che…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 04:12 PM
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If you've got a point, make it. Don't be an asshole.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 09:40 AM
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And why is it a footnote that there's a very good chance that an innocent man spent 11 years in jail thanks to this harpy?
/r/MensRights18/01/14 10:01 AM
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Exactly my first thought.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 05:42 AM
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Absolutely. And also, cars have the right of way in the road. It's where they're supposed to be. If my child runs in front of them, the car drivers can't logically be blamed. When a person gets raped it's not because they're doing something wrong, and it's certainly no one's right to have sex with someone. I am a huge advocate of people, but especially women, taking responsibility for their safety (see my history), but this is not a good comparison.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 11:04 AM
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Aaand this why no one takes you people seriously.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:53 PM
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Yes, but men get told this everyday.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:00 AM
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I don't know what ypur childhood was like but media was not the only, nor the predominant social teacher. Did you grow up in a cave?
/r/MensRights20/10/13 03:46 PM
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Whoah, slow down there. "Get yourself into a situation that is unfavorable"? That covers a wide range of shit, some of which is certainly rape, man or woman.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:56 AM
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Are you implying that it's not okay for a person to change their mind mid-activity?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:52 AM
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Do you understand that analogies have to actually work to be relevant? One can't just compare two things that are completely unrelated to each other and expect it to make sense.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 10:18 PM
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Maybe she really doesn't want anything from you.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 10:07 PM
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Totally not.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 05:50 PM
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It isn't.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 03:25 PM
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a) They're not donating to the KKK. b) Of course you CAN criticize it, but you know that this post's aim to exemplify institutionalized sexism. This is not an example, though.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 03:21 PM
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He doesn't have to voluntarily step into to be responsible for support.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 11:20 AM
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Has nothing to do with libertarian. If I donate money, I get to decide where and to whom it goes. End of story.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 11:18 AM
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No, the problem is when they claim they're fighting for men too.
/r/MensRights10/10/13 04:43 AM
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There's no systematic sexism? Really? So you're telling me that putting women in jail for being raped is not based on sexism? That forbidding them the same education as men? That forcing male rape victims to pay for children they father? Those aren't examples of systemic sexism?
/r/MensRights21/09/13 04:08 PM
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Women are not victims, never were (as a group) and have always been regarded well. See, this reply makes you sound just ignorant of history. Of course women were victims. But of sexism, not of men. Men were/are victims as well. You can't just deny that women have been victimized by society. We want to tell the truth, not force a false agenda.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 11:45 AM
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Wear a fucking condom, idiot.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 10:08 AM
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No. They're not. The ad has nothing to do with men, it's targeting women's emotions about their own body.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 05:06 AM
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Dove ads are intended to contrast with what men find attractive, but are targeted to women. I disagree. Women are generally find thinner women more attractive then men do. Most of the women in the Dove add are a smidge above normal, and pretty attractive to boot. I don't think men would have any problem seeing most of them as attractive.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 07:49 PM
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The add that this post is parodying is not telling men what's attractive, though. It's telling women what's attractive. Yeah, serious question though. Why are you downvoting this post? It's just a statement of fact. Or does someone here think that the adds are marketed towards men?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 06:01 PM
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I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that the Dove marketing campaign was aimed at women, not men. It wasn't telling men to think larger women are attractive, it was telling larger women that they are attractive. Whether you agree with that it neither here nor there. This post has missed the mark by a mile.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 05:59 PM
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I actually got into a big argument iver in 2x because I said that I was a victim but no longer. I said I refused to let my abuser to define me. I was told that I didn't have that choice and would always be a victim. Empowering, no?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 10:44 AM
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It's uninteresting AND makes you all look like idiots.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 10:42 AM
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Context? The world away from your computer. The politics and laws of the country you live in. Life. Why is any time at all being wasted on a minor subreddit populated with trolls? Call them out on it! Now what? Congratulations, you've deduced that there are assholes in the world.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 09:10 PM
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@ Typhon Good for you for putting yourself out there like that. Very brave.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 08:46 PM
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Gah! Can we talk about something fucking important? Do you LIVE on Reddit?
/r/MensRights30/07/13 08:37 PM
1

Well, we are specifically talking about ships. I don't know if it's different for offices, and it's not really relevant to this conversation. We're talking about women and children.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 08:42 AM
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Which is why I said: Wealth is the motivation for almost all war, so I see it more as a class struggle than one of gender. Meaning poor folks were the ones that got screwed. Please read the comments leading up to the ones you comment on.
/r/MensRights27/07/13 07:12 AM
1

Men have a distinct physical advantage over women. I said that very thing in the beginning of our exchange. It's only natural that they would fall into the more work-intensive roles, they were naturally better at it. No, they were better any anything that required speed and strength. Pre-historic SAHMs didn't spend their driving taking the kids to soccer. There was a lot of work to be done there. In fact, it's likely that young women did not stay at home. They had to prepare the meat and skins a…
/r/MensRights27/07/13 07:08 AM
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The times he does sacrifice himself is for his country or family through means like enlistment, which can be considered sacrifice for women since women never went into combat themselves. I have a problem with the idea that women are somehow responsible for men dying in war, or that they are the prime motivation. Wealth is the motivation for almost all war, so I see more as a class struggle than one of gender. In any case, for the majority of wars, women were not allowed to vote and therefore had…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 11:05 PM
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I don't think you and I are going to have anything productive to talk about.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 10:45 PM
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I speak another language and am typing on a non-English keyboard at 1230 in the morning. When I write a book, I'll be sure to hire you to proofread it. It's not a thing today. It's an ideology that isn't often used in practice. Why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't they what? Abandon helpless children? Or women?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 10:37 PM
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I don't blame the guy in the video, of course, but I object to the definition of human capital not including the skills and lessons learned by parenting and having a family. It devalues those skills, which ARE marketable, in my opinion. And leads to nobody wanting to do them, men or women. Basically, I think we need to stop being ashamed of procreating and valuing our families.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 10:17 PM
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just found this, it might be interesting for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first
/r/MensRights26/07/13 10:00 PM
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No, I've spent a lot of time both reading and thinking about these kinds of things. Men and women both fulfilled predetermined roles designated by their sex; women's was ensuring the continuity of the species by reproducing, and men were assuring it by protecting the women and children. The flaw in your theory is that women can hunt/protect and reproduce. It's only toward the end of pregnancy that a women is in any way disabled. They certainly didn't work any less later, when society became agri…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:57 PM
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Yeah, so they pushed out the kids and then could die for all the victors cared.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:45 PM
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There's all kinds of research to support that statement. I just assumed everyone kind of knew that. In invading force would usually kill the men and anyone old or disabled, often the babies, and take the women home to impregnate, thus truly wiping out their enemies by breeding them out. It wasn't because they believed women were inherently worth more, except for their capacity to bear children.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:39 PM
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You seem to have missed the fact that what we're talking about, women and children first, is a newish concept. It has not been like that for all of history. Women and children held no special place for most invaders and have been as easily disposed of as men. There are a lot of theories as to why traditional roles were developed. Yours is one of them. The fact is that we don't really know. My theory is that because men are generally bigger and stronger, they were more efficient at doing their jo…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:20 PM
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And the idea that they couldn't fend for themselves was because they had no agency, which was necessary to keep them protected from harm, which in other words meant they were considered more valuable. Do you realize this makes no sense? At all? The popular notion at the time was that women were simply not as smart or mentally strong as men. It became man's duty to care for them because they were unable to care for themselves. There's no reframing, that's literally how it was. Feel free to bring …
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:49 PM
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In China, probably.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:03 PM
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As to your first question: Since when does not having a vagina make my life any less valuable than a woman's? "Women and children first" wasn't really a thing until Roughly Victorian England and was based not on women being more valuable but on the idea that women, like children were less able to fend for themselves. You will never see a feminist arguing this point. Why? Actually, early feminists did argue this point and actually wrote against the idea, claiming that men got out of the situation…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:02 PM
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No, this sub won't ban you. They'll downvote you to shit, but not ban.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 07:39 PM
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How is this relevant to men's rights?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 07:35 PM
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You'll note that the post you first responded to was not a reply to you. I was responding to someone else. Legally, it's every parent's choice in the US. Personally, I think it should be illegal, but again, it's not only women making this decision.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 02:56 PM
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Hey, you won't find anyone more anti-circumcision than myself. I'm saying that it's not a female conspiracy.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 01:42 PM
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I'm just blown away that we can't even have a conversation with women on these important issues. Can we not do this? You can't have a conversation with these women.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:26 AM
1

Well, that's a little hyperbolic. Most couples make the decision together. It's not like all men are against circumcision.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:25 AM
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Hey, there. I'm totally kidding. Maybe.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:16 AM
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But the most common reason for men to refuse to perform oral sex is because they think it makes them look weak and submissive to women, and that it would insult their manhood to do it. Any evidence for that?
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:14 AM
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Of course it's his decision, but reciprocation is important in a relationship. I wouldn't stay with someone that refused to give blow jobs either.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 09:13 AM
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It's funny, my ex husband stopped talking to his best friend near the end if our relationship. I asked but he kind if blew me off. Turns out ex was venting about me and his friend suggested we break up because although he liked me alright, he said we brought out the worst in each other. He was so right. Friends and family are important.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:20 PM
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Have you thought about going to the media?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 08:14 AM
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In some places you don't even have to be legally married to be put in a shitty position.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 08:11 AM
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Also my friends weren't too fond of her... but they dealt with her knowing we were together. Woman here. This, right here is key. Every time my friends didn't like one of my partners they turned out to be right. Not just one, but literally all of them. I'd also start by talking to her about men's rights. If she's willing to at least listen, that's a good start.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 08:10 AM
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How is it irrelevant? If she gives it up willingly and then people call her crazy, the next woman is far less likely to give up custody even if it's better for everyone.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:55 PM
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Part of the reason that moms fight so hard for custody is that there's a huge stigma if a woman's kids don't live with her, even if she made that decision.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 05:59 PM
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I'd like to know more about this whole thing. Was she actually getting the money or was the state keeping it? Did he question it? Or ask for custody of the kids? I'd like to know how the father handled everything.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 05:54 PM
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