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Guy with abundance here, why can’t I go after both the hoes and the prudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 09:35 PM
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I also went to the gym over a woman, that motivation lasted six months. The discipline has kept me going for 12 years. It’s a habit now and ultimately it has to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:40 PM
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Right right…….that’s why so many “body positive” women react sooooooo well when their friends lose weight. Also your shit lord heart and blood vessels are probably misogynistic too as they don’t seem on board with body positivity either seeing as there’s no elderly fat activists
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:37 PM
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A few things: (1) I’m an attractive guy that grew up ugly and I can promise you that one sex treating the uglier one like shit isn’t limited to just men treating women like shit; (2) by your own admission you’re not “smart.” I’m not going to give someone 100% of my respect if they don’t earn it. My ex was pretty enough but she was absolutely helpless at all household tasks, had no problem solving skills, and had clearly been spoiled by her parents, I can’t respect someone like that. Couldn’t do …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:46 PM
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Damn where are all these girls at? I’ve never met one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:33 AM
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At least in my experience, it's now young women that seem to have no life skills outside of their employment. No ability to cook, clean, do handywork of any kind, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:15 PM
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Another lawyer here. Successful and educated women lol. People like others that are like them. I'm not single but my previous relationships/long term flings were: -Accountant; -Chemist; -Instagram Model (and made more than any of my partners doing it); -Doctor; -Lawyer; Current girlfriend is a pharmacist. I keep in very good shape and have always been picky about looks. I also have a working class background so entitlement is a massive turnoff to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:08 PM
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Lmao yes It is what it is. I’ve been in relationships, I’ve had women try to seduce me to cheat, I’ve been drunk, high, etc when these attempts were made. I’ve been in failing relationships when these attempts were made. I’ve never cheated. There is no excuse. It’s a moral character failing that I could never look past.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:54 PM
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To me and actual relationship (we’re dating/exclusive) is a big commitment and one I don’t take lightly. If I agree to it that means I see a future and really want to try to make it work and wouldn’t just drop someone like a hot potato for something. So, for me, I would need to see if the sex is good first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:51 PM
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I’m fine with waiting but it would be a hard pass on a relationship requirement first. How could I sign up to date someone before I know if we’re sexually compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:58 AM
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It all depends on the height of the girl ime, I went on several dates with a girl who was 5’11, same height as me, and it was clear it bothered her. I also had a fling with a volleyball player who was 6’0-6’1, she made it clear she would only fully commit to and date someone taller than her and I was just a passing fancy. However, I’ve never been unsuccessful with women and I do know several shorter women that won’t go for guys who are too tall. Current gf is 5’2 and said she almost didn’t go on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:49 PM
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Most women I know (ex's, friends, acquaintances, etc.) are far more cynical about dating and romance than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:56 PM
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I mean the “silent treatment” can be a weapon employed by petty people to solicit some form of shock and insecurity in the person they’re texting. Or, a hundred times more likely, they just don’t want to talk to you. If I’m ignoring someone via text it means I dont want to talk to them right now, can be a friend, my girlfriend, etc. If it’s been two weeks and I haven’t replied it means I don’t want to talk to you ever. My guess is your mechanic friend didn’t want to talk to you ever for reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:53 PM
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Dan Bilzerian has to pay girls to hang out with him. He has no natural appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 01:45 AM
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Men are more likely to commit suicide but women are far more likely to attempt it. It’s just that men do the gun/noose, whereas women try to down an extra handful of pills
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:53 AM
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5’11 and a half, so a tinder 6’0. Tinder is pure garbage now, I haven’t had a match worth a shit in ages. All other dating apps are fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:42 AM
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They’ll have it until they’re blown away in all things by MTF
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:40 AM
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Men and women have racial preferences when dating, in other news the sky is blue and water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:18 AM
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As with all things, it depends: Story, one of my best friends is 40 and a little socially akward, we were at a bar and he was carrying around a book by Noam Chomsky. We chose this bar in particular because his brother (younger, taller, better looking, etc.) was a part owner of the bar. Anyway brother meets up with us and he brings a girl who's probably 25 or so, gorgeous, and a bartender herself at another bar. The four of us are having a quick talk when she points to my friends book and says "i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:28 PM
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I would suspect the difference is the conservative woman will be expected to hold up the traditional role of being a homemaker and primary caregiver for any children. Two things most gold diggers are not up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:25 PM
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Because men don't care. If my waist is a size 30 and I see a pack of underwear I like that's a size 30 i buy it, I don't care what the model looks like. Also, women HAAATTEEE fit attractive women. I know some guys on reddit get angry at "Chad" but I've never seen the pure hate and vitriol genuinely beautiful women get from less attractive women in male relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:15 AM
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You're asking a few different questions rolled into one: Does having an active nightlife at clubs and bars help you hook up: In my experience, no. Generally the girls I'm bringing home after going to a club are the ones I went in with. It's cramped, the music is loud, and there's a lot of guys pawing at women who are there. I've had much better luck meeting women outside the club or at the adjacent/affiliated restaurant (if there is one) as you can actually talk and most people are taking it eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:02 AM
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As a guy who has a good career and is in pretty good to really good shape year round, looks are more important. I'm sorry, it's terrible to say, but it's the truth, you need them to get your foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:53 AM
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I prefer hotter women because the level of maintenance is the same (less attractive women are equally high maintenance) and hotter women are more accepting of my fit lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 01:42 PM
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I have a few platonic female friends but many women severely overestimate how pleasurable their company is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 06:28 PM
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Because people who aspire to be upper middle class tend to start out as lower class and live with the policies of the upper class. If there’s ever a section 8 debate near Chicago I notice putting it in Winnetka is never considered. It’s in the south side areas. I notice that it’s also the formally blue collar south side that gets all the “through traffic” not Ravenswood. Chicago, one of the liberal urban areas is also one of, if not THE, most segregated city in the country. Many liberals don’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:52 PM
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Not for this example no. When it comes to responsibility for safety women must, and often are, taking more responsibility for their own safety than men. Why do you think women almost never go to the bar alone, or go to some guys house alone, or carry mace or a taser in their purse? Most men don’t think of these things because they know the likelihood of being placed in an unsafe situation is much smaller so less deterrent action is needed. Women get much used to feeling less safe and act accordi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 02:17 PM
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What? Most married men I know basically imply they want to swallow some shot gun mouthwash the second their wives are out of sight. These are men with the white picket fence and 2.1 kids on Facebook. They’re usually in a “eh, I could take it or leave it” about relationships and family .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:47 AM
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Hot take, I know a few girls that cold approach or slide into guys dms, what do they all have in common? They’re all dating guys wayyy out of their league. So it definitely works
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:44 AM
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Interesting, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:41 PM
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LGBT community has a reputation for racism? I’m surprised to hear that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:15 PM
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I’m not sure what a “bad boy” is by your definition but my N count is higher than that and I’ve slept with older women. Look and live the part I’m not sure what you mean but I take good care of myself and have a lot of tattoos so there’s that. To answer your questions: 1.) I don’t overtly ignore women I like, it’s possible I may not have had an opportunity to talk to you though as I don’t cold approach random women. 2.) come up and strike a conversation, doesn’t have to be romantic or sexual but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:27 PM
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I believe that people can change but I’m not gonna be the test dummy to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:22 PM
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If I’m not mistaken both genders cheat equally. Anecdotally I’ve gotten many opportunities to cheat on past girlfriends and never acted on them. It’s a moral issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 10:37 PM
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Male 28, it’s gotten better in terms of quantity and opportunity. Maybe a little less so in intensity as everyone’s a little more jaded the older they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:07 PM
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Tough news for you, you're going to be old and "not shiny and new" to all men eventually. Might be good to have something built up with someone before then. There is no benefit in "giving men a child" if you don't want one yourself. Just like there's no benefit in "putting a bun in a woman's oven" if the man doesn't want a child. Some people really want families, some are ambivalent about it, and some don't. There's still benefits based on individual pairings as well. A woman who doesn't have he…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:58 AM
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Everything you said about FDS sounds like TRP with extra steps. I agree with the Simpson’s not being a true to life couple. People date in their leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 08:26 PM
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Oh they do, but they also have high value men lining up as well and they’re not hard to differentiate. And those men will want a relationship, contrary to what even this sub says, nearly all men want a relationship, just not with low value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 06:58 PM
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You’re right I definitely don’t know any women or have any female friends with that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 06:52 PM
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Except it’s not. My point is a real Stacy doesn’t need FDS because she routinely is being offered commitment from modelesque wealthy men. These are the men that FDS is dedicated to getting and many of their strategies are either to get that or do women weird female version of mgtow. She can pick the best of these men (or at least the best for her) if she’s so inclined. She doesn’t need to “know her worth” or any other FDS trope because it’s readily apparent. FDS is like a bunch of vertically cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 06:02 PM
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It’s not weed out when any one of them is a good decision. It’s just picking out the prettiest flower in a bundle of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 05:41 PM
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Stacy doesn’t need a weed out game, she just needs to select the best among the top 5% of men that are courting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:31 PM
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The catch 22 to FDS is it’s a bunch of average to below average girls that think they’re Stacy that want a super hmv man and strategizing to get one not realizing that it’s well established that Stacy doesn’t have to try, they just flock to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 03:17 PM
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Don’t worry it’s only one way of seeing things. If what you say is true then you’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 09:29 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:53 PM
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Many men take whatever they can get. That emotionally cold, low libido woman, may be the ONLY woman who’s ever shown interest in him. I don’t think most women can understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 03:15 PM
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Different life stages, like what are you going to talk to her about? Homework? Third period? Gym class? College Applications? Even if the guys is 22 they have completely different priorities and lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:37 PM
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A fair point, as you get older I think you start to realize how important taking care of yourself is. Plenty of people who are hot at 25 look like trash at 35, most people in my experience. If someone looks good at 35-40, chances are they care about their appearance and health and will continue to look good. Some people are hedging their bets. As I said I take good care of my self and I've noticed no drop off in age or interest, none. That said I'm still in my 20s. I've seen plenty of guys in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 04:34 PM
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You’re forgetting about alignments of goals which matters a lot. Let’s say you’re 25 and looking to settle down. Handsome 35 year old man may be, and often is, looking for that exact same thing. Handsome 25 year old man is just looking to party and sleep with as many girls as possible more often than not. My personal anecdote as a “handsome” 28 year old man is that age doesn’t seem to really matter for me I still attract 18 year old girls (but I consider them too young for me) and I attract girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 12:16 PM
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Female strangers-like once a week or so. Male strangers-never. Female friends-once in a blue moon. Male friends-frequently, a lot of guys in a group are type cast for purposes of shit talking. I’m the “good looking” guy so most of the fun poked at me is related to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 08:26 PM
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A bunch of like kind pretty girls tend to raise up even the uglier one of the group. Look up the cheerleader effect
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 06:45 PM
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Lawyer here: In the US we have what is referred to as a “rape shield” regarding evidence. In short you can’t put into evidence that a girl’s promiscuous because it has no relevance as to whether she consented to that particular encounter or not. Her other sexual activities can not be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 09:11 PM
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Nick Bateman isn’t top 10% more like top 1% 1/10 men have no shot at being models
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 12:50 PM
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It all depends, last time I broke up with a girl it was because I had fallen for someone else who was both higher value objectively and more right for me personally. Asked that girl out the same day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 02:59 PM
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Automatically disqualifying
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:32 PM
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The better the product the less good the pitch is required but you still need to sell yourself. And marketing is routinely about deception and lying. Take Gucci for example, their products are considered trash in terms of quality relative to their price point but they have a marketing strategy of marketing to low income people as the merchandise they’re too poor to buy. Boom poor people spend every dime they have on Gucci (and wealthy people who want to market to poor people). They’ve been extre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:04 PM
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It’s sales, people don’t realize that everything in this world is selling yourself. A man who gives off the impression of being in high demand will. E in high demand and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/20 10:59 PM
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I don’t drink super often (once a month?) due to health and fitness concerns. We’re out there but many of us don’t volunteer that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:49 PM
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How does rising income inequality go to your point that more women have the means to support themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 12:18 PM
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On r/relationships yesterday there was a girl whining that her bf showered once a week at most and brushed once every several weeks. I don’t think men on here realize what the bottom percentiles of men are
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:57 PM
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Have you seen those guys though? I don’t really blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 05:00 PM
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No, it's controlling and sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 08:29 PM
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My mom was/is like this. My brother and I turned out more or less fine, but neither of us have a good relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 08:28 PM
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Some men are, many men will happily marry the first woman to give them the time of day. The “Chads” don’t lock down so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:27 PM
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Ok, you like to play Piano, was the guy a musician? Personally, I play piano and other instruments and like music so I'd really care about that hobby. If a girl was big into video games (a hobby that men supposedly "love") I wouldn't care at all. It's not just about hobbies it's also are they compatible hobbies and personalities. You can have a great personality and be the wrong personality for someone in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:53 AM
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Statistically they are doing this and it's becoming a large societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:37 AM
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Yep still doing fine
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 08:33 PM
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They’re not they just complain about them more. For men bad relationships are often just par for the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 02:29 AM
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She’d have to have an extreme reputation for chastity. I know a girl who every guy I know wants to bang (she probably gets asked out 2-3 times a day) and no one has ever EVER cracked those legs. She could make any man wait for it because she’s hard to get and is known for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:30 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:28 AM
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Because they’re stupid and think natural makeup is no makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:36 PM
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Fair but the same applies in the reverse for most quality men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:05 PM
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What's the average man by definition? Average attractiveness, average income, average beliefs? Average demanor? Men who are friends with a lot of women aren't average. Average can mean a lot of things. Most random dudes I know see women as some combination of friends/sex objects. Shocking I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 10:08 PM
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There’s about six or seven different America’s. The Pacific Northwest, the Midwest, New England, The Solid South, The Rocky Mountains, Texas, and California if you were to ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 12:54 PM
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Deep down they do, but they want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:09 PM
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White women? Yes, just look a the Amy Cooper situation. That was a woman with privilege and she knew it and tried to exploit it. White women are probably the most privileged people in America and deep down they know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:06 AM
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It’s changed, I’m a generation younger than you and I was most definitely not taught “boys will be boys.” I thought my educational experience tended to be pretty fair. There was a slight bias towards women but they also don’t act out as much and are more dutiful towards carrying out what the teachers ask (I think this is why they get better grades too). Also men and women bully differently, men are more physical when they bully, women more socially so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 11:39 AM
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No, with the exception of all of the gorgeous women I know are usually dating very handsome men. I’ve seen some literal male models with some questionable women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:27 PM
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Let me answer your question with another question. Would you avoid a man who donated thousands and thousands of dollars to local e-girls and messaged local girls begging for dates for a long term relationship/marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:57 PM
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Define women’s rights? To have equal career and educational opportunities to a man? Sure. To be immune from all criticism, try to have all of the privileges that women get while also taking on no additional responsibilities in the normative gender sphere. No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:30 PM
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To a small degree, but that's because I feel that men reward the truly funny whereas women don't. I used to frequent local comedy clubs and saw plenty of women who put Amy Schumer or Sarah Silverman to absolute shame but because their humor doesn't follow a certain consensus of the 'right" humor. They're ignored. Whereas men can violate those taboos and still rise to the top (Dave Chapelle) is a great example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:40 AM
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As someone who went from ugly as a kid to good looking as an adult, it makes a world of difference. You get the benefit of the doubt for pretty much everything. Also, many women treat ugly men like they're sub-human and go out of their way to antagonize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:29 AM
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Here's something that will blow your mind. What if I told you that Instagram thicc women were mostly fit skinny women that pose in such a way to angle their legs/butt closer to the camera so that they appear to have unrealistic proportions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:13 PM
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In every relationship I’ve had I’ve never cheated, despite plenty of women trying to get me to do so. It comes down to the morals of your partner. Cheating is an absolute breach of the fundamental trust your partner has in you. Do I find plenty of girls attractive? Sure. Doesn’t meant I’m going to cheat. Also, I don’t think cheating is really a hypergamy issue so much as it’s a lack of moral issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:51 AM
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I’ve been propositioned by plenty of married women/taken women. In my experience the answer to this is normally no, the new guy isn’t “better” it’s that they’re looking for external validation or not happy with their relationship for any myriad of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 01:00 AM
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Then you didn't look very hard. A boat load of them supported Bernie Sanders back in 2016. The only ideology they had across the board was being against women's rights of any kind. If you ever browsed their old sub they would ice political discussions because their views on other things were so varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 12:53 AM
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No the fact that some people work hard for their money and notice that a good portion of society is more than happy to do f*ck all all day and basically want to use government to seize wealth from the rich so they don't have to behave like adults is what makes people support fiscal conservatism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 12:49 AM
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I think as a general rule people are turned off by high n counts unless there's an accomplishment that goes with it. Consider the following: 1.) Guy sleeps with 100 women, and all of them were fat slobs. He doesn't get the player/accomplishment credit that normally goes with the high N count. 2.) A woman has a relatively high N count, but all of the guys she's slept with were models or celebrities. She doesn't receive the normal slut shaming. The reason the double standard exists is because it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:45 AM
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Yeah I know some nurses that make more than some engineers and lawyers here in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:40 AM
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How did you extrapolate this from the top comment? Law firm hired man with law degree to be a lawyer. They hired the woman to be a secretary. In what world is that "all the benefits?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:35 AM
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I'm not sure why you're including nurses in this category. Most nurses do pretty well for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:32 AM
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But the OP was not. OP specifically mentions degree and income in the definition of class. Those things are not the same as class. I've seen plenty of male lawyers "cross the road" for a girl that wanted to be a housewife without any consideration to her degree or income, but she does have to be the same class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:22 AM
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Now were conflating class more with other things besides jobs. I know legal assistants that are hot white, middle class, and college educated, and I know legal assistants that are...none of those things. You're right that UMC people will go for the former and not the latter. We're in agreement that people normally marry within their social class and there's endless studies to back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 01:09 AM
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But aren’t secretaries or paralegals considered “low class”? What’s the definition of low class here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 12:59 AM
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I’m a lawyer and do quite well for myself. I couldn’t care less what the girl I date does. Also, I don’t know a male lawyer who really cared either. Most lawyers who date other doctors/lawyers do so because they met in school. EDITED TO ADD: it appears you're talking about the lowest of the low, like people who didn't even graduate highschool, you're right in that they're not getting any doctors or lawyers, but that has as much to do with an education/ambition/interest gap as anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 11:56 PM
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It would be a greater society if everyone felt that way, but not everyone does, which is why we have the people OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 03:27 AM
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Yeah? And how many people in society really have that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 03:10 AM
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HAHAHAHAHA absolutely not. Quite the opposite, most men learn from an early age that they're only value and ability to be loved is based on what they achieve/can provide. Society treats men as having no inherent worth. Rich man becomes broke, he's worthless. Good looking man becomes fat, he's worthless. God help the man if he's short. The men you see are often men who have completely given up. They're treated as invisible when they look like shit, then they lose weight, clean up their appearance…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:44 PM
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For younger women if they're at or near my level they do the indirect thing. If they're significantly below they just overtly approach. The hotter ones will approach if they're drunk. Older women just approach regardless, maybe confidence comes with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 03:38 PM
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Wear 2 inch lifts for a few months and see if women suddenly start swooning over you, I bet they won't. I'm 5'11 and I've never had a woman tell me I'm too short, not once. I know plenty of guys who are 5'7-5'10 who do just fine with women. I've always done better with women than my brother who's 6'1. Yeah there are some women out there who slobber over guys who are 6'3+ (which you can never be even with surgery), but they're few and far between, and do you even want a girl like that? I'm not go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:01 AM
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Who goes to a party bar at 9 p.m. to meet women? If you're going out to that type of bar it doesnt' heat up until at least 10:30
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:39 AM
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Can you explain for me what's not alpha/chad about steps 3 and 4 chief?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:21 PM
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Being quickly shut down or ignored is the only hint some guys get and yet there's still some guys that don't get it. You're not entitled to someone's time or attention, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 09:19 PM
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IMO you're just seeing the issue of top 10% men expanded upon in a single setting. Those guys have multiple options all the time and don't have to commit/settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/20 08:04 PM
1

If a woman dates/marries a literal manchild it’s her own fault, not the institution of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 09:15 PM
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Neither, marriage was/is for the benefit of children. The new generation is different from the boomers. More than half of us grew up in broken homes and failed marriages. Most high value women I know are more career independent and most high value men are able to get sex and can do domestic house keeping duties on their own. I no longer see a point in marriage if you’re high value at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 09:12 PM
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If we could agree to declare marriage a dead institution im down. The new generation of men aren’t incapable of doing domestic duties like their fathers were. They also learned the hard way that marriage is often a bad time (as have women). I think both sides polled under 40 (definitely under 30) would be more than happy to bury the thing. Personally I like being able to pull the plug on a relationship with no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 09:08 PM
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How’s that study done? I find it hard to believe. If it’s self reported I also find it hard to believe that a 45 year old childless single woman would ever admit she’s unhappy even when it’s obvious to even the most casual observer that she is. It’s the female equivalent of all the MGTOW folks. Of course they all say they’re happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 08:56 PM
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If you’re contention is that women hate being passed over for more attractive women (attractive being defined in any type of way) than that’s hardly news. But just as women don’t owe men a right swipe on tinder, frat guys don’t owe women attention just because she dolled herself up. I get your point and yes, most fraternities will try to keep a good ratio (for men) at their parties. Which can be tougher than you’d think, just like in online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:20 PM
2

Being an attractive and bubbly girl scores you points with female friends. No sorority wants known sluts in the house as it drags down the sororities reputation. I’ve seen plenty of girls get snubbed at sorority recruitment if they slutted it up prior to rushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:05 PM
3

Don’t count out freshman sorority girls before the older girls start policing their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 06:02 PM
3

Source: I was in a "good" fraternity for my entire college career. Fraternity magic isn't really a thing just because you're in a frat. It becomes a thing when you're in the right frat. Anyone who's a part of greeklife (and most party girls even if they aren't) know that the houses in a greek system are more or less ranked from best to worst. The ranking/tier system is usually bullshit to a degree, but it definitely exists. There's usually a "top 3/5" fraternities where the best looking, most so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 03:08 PM
2

27 M here. I'm an 8, I need to find her attractive and my friends would need to not give me shit about it. personality matters after that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 07:58 PM
3

High wasted anything is popular because they can pull it up like a virtual girdle over their guts and lovehandles. It also helps with the but lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 03:58 AM
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My anecdata is that women don't care about male approval until they lose it. They feel like men being overly nice, complimentary, and flirting with them is the natural state until it's not. They take it hard, and doubly hard if they notice they've lost their spot to a younger or hotter woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 03:05 AM
2

Gets with who though, that's the issue. Others have touched upon it but the real issue is supply and demand. I have higher standards and I maybe find 2-3/10 women I see attractive. Most either put in no effort into looking good or put in fake effort, meaning mastering camera angles and instagramesque makeup to look passable in photos, rather than putting in the serious work needed to look good in real life. Women are constantly talking about how men need to work harder, be more interesting, etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:26 PM
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I don't think women cared about or care about "overall" anything, they care about their rights, privileges and opportunities. There are more women in school, more women in the workforce, more women in government, more women in power generally, and that pretty much means 2nd wave feminism (the not crazy one) is achieving its aim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 08:15 PM
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I know a lot of girls who fit that description who aren’t attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:58 PM
-1

Women are complete trash at judging the looks of other women. Your friends probably aren't that hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 10:03 PM
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-You need to be on the higher end of attractiveness compared to what that guy can sleep with. -You need to be compatible with him/share hobbies, lifestyle, etc. -He needs to like you and connect with you. Not hard, but very guys specific. Most women, ime, have no idea if men are connecting with them or not because most guys will fake it until they can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 04:14 AM
0

Looking at how men behave in countries were rape laws are not enforced and how soldiers have historically behaved during military occupations leads me to believe they absolutely would.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 04:48 PM
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I’m a right leaning moderate in my opinion. I support right wing economic policies, and legal immigration, but I’m also for gay marriage, for women’s equality in the work place, and pro choice. I’m also extremely libertarian and believe both parties are broken (republicans lost their soul and the democrats lost their minds) and that government cramming down policy (particularly at the federal) is bad. I do not date woke women, one, they tend to have ..less than appealing physical characteristics…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:14 PM
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Oxymoron, if she’s “woke” she’s militant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:54 PM
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No, but often times I never respected them in the first place. Women don’t realize how terrible their personalities are and how many men just smile and nod until they can have sex. It’s never been about losing respect after sex it’s he never respected you and stopped bothering to pretend after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:47 PM
1

You bizarre Europeans/Other Non-USA folks and your weird spotted round football.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 08:37 PM
1

Suicide is never the "polite" or the right thing to do. Everyone has worth. Please see a therapist and I'm here if you need to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 07:37 PM
1

Why can't it be both 1 and 2...which is probably the actual case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:34 PM
1

I get what you're saying, but with the current state of the political left in the US that analogy maybe isn't the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 10:21 PM
2

Same thing as fat acceptance among women. Most will just try to convince themselves they’re sexy just the way they are and hate better looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 10:13 PM
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I'd take them back for a roll in the hay but I wouldn't date them again. Two of my exes are insta models, it was never their looks that killed the relationship haha. Looks are critical for choosing a girl alongside personality. She needs to have both or I won't date her. I would not keep her around if she was a bitch because I, like most men, always want what I don't have and would look at other women if there was no personality keeping me committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:37 PM
1

Not to speculate, but I've met a few women who were like you and they tend to come across a little too strong personality wise for most guys. Most men who you would be attracted to (other successful men) are usually looking for a first mate to their captain. Some men like equal power but they're few and far between. If you're looking for the good looking successful men, who want a relationship and don't mind sharing equal power in the relationship are the hottest commodities in the dating market…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:32 PM
1

UMC pool with cafe and spa gym. More of a club. I'd say it was 60/40 men. The women were nearly all trophy wives or girls aspiring to be trophy wives which caused some hilarious intergym competition amongst the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:17 PM
1

Male-27 As far as attractiveness I've never been rated below a 7 in person and take very good care of myself, I get hit on a lot. I look for hookups mostly but would date the right girl if I found her. I'm successful at online dating and I get a lot of matches (and I swipe pretty selectively) and it can be stressful. It's hard to keep 8-9 conversations going at once so I usually pick the two hottest girls and just talk to them and barely respond to the rest. I can't imagine how bad it is for hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:09 PM
2

Femaledatingstrategy is just the female version of the incels, I don't understand why men are so angry when they should see it for the comedy it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:02 AM
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I’m almost positive the sub is a parody of braincels, the fact that it’s allowed to stay while braincels is banned shows the hypocrisy of reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:54 PM
2

Men absolutely look out for each other. Society has just conditioned us to think that’s a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 01:04 PM
1

1.) I do. 2.) About 1/5? 3.) Absolutely not, to be just friends I only have to like their personality. 4.) Only the personality, with my friends there's little difference between the personalities of the men and women. 5.) Nope, for most of my female friends there's usually some reason I don't find them attractive. If they are attractive they're usually married or have kids, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:23 PM
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The plurality of scenarios is what you would expect, but theres usually more to it. I've seen cases where the one or both parties is having an affair, one party is abusing the other, the woman was the bread winner and now pays maintenance (alimony) to the man. I've seen both men and women be equally shitty to each other. The one thing I have noticed is that women come out claws out to start the divorce whereas the man is usually in a state of despair and not being very aggressive. After a while …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:47 AM
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Both genders see a positive in marriage in that they want to have a partner to have a life with. I feel that most people get married because they either feel obligated to or because they think it's the ultimate step in signifying their commitment to each other. Both genders view this plus equally. Many men, however, grew up children of divorces and while it can be hard on both parties, from a financial perspective, it tends to be the man who gets the short straw. That combined with the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:34 PM
1

I think another issue is tall girls have faced height discrimination. My mom is 6'0 and was viciously bullied for it growing up. She would never openly tell someone they're too short or mock someone for their height (but will tell me in private X guy was too short for her if he's below about 5'9)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:18 PM
1

I'm also 5'11, most women I know want a guy taller than them but don't really care about the height. The only two girls where I encountered issues were with a volley ball player who was about 6'1 that I dated casually who kind of treated me like a low priority. I also had a few dates with a girl who was 5'11 flat so exactly my height and taller in heels who got really weird during the date (I think she was just weird generally though). Outside of that I've had one ex who was an absolute 6'0 or b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 06:02 PM
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Women on dating sites : Have heavy make up that changes their complexion and contours their face; Wear push up bras, Wear stomach girdles or shaping shirts; Wear yoga pants and heels to get better legs and asses; Take pics at angles they know give off an unrealistic look at themselves; Take selfies in the tall mirror to look thinner; Fake eye lashes; Hair extensions; Photoshop themselves in some more extreme examples; Take all pictures with either filters or perfect angles; Use photos that are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 07:06 PM
1

I do pretty well on the app myself, but am always looking for pointers to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:27 PM
2

I know it's my looks that give me success. I always have, I don't think people who are average appreciate how cruel people are, particularly women, to unattractive men, and how nice they are to attractive men. The difference is a night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:21 PM
1

I feel like this question would never come up in real life. If a girl is at least not a complete troll there would be men interested in her. If not a single other man was interested in her, it's because she's so ugly or has a personality so vile she's undateable to me anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:07 PM
1

If women think they're hot enough to still get younger men they'll definitely try. I get hit on by pretty middle aged women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:51 PM
1

You'd see women's SMV's go way down, which is a good thing as they're artificially inflated. One good thing TRP says is that men should focus on their mission over women. If simps aren't pandering to average women they may start to align their expectations with reality. ​ The problem with TRP is the lack of trust they have in the good intentions of women. This means the death of relationships as the genders will trust each other even less than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:09 PM
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-Lack of female friends -Kids (age and other factors vary on this) -Does she need constant attention/validation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:57 PM
1

That's because society doesn't have to pick up the tab for the kid in nearly as many of those instances.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:38 PM
4

In the West? Women, and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:13 PM
1

Money, and drive, would become paramount. Also, unique fashion folks would probably still do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 03:01 PM
1

Are you giving us the extremely hot take that dating is ridiculously lopsided in favor of women?!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/19 01:42 PM
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Chad is relative, Chad is what happens when one man in the room is 2 points higher on the SMV scale than every other man in the room. Alpha males are men who get the respect of other men. Nothing more, nothing less. And no, no MGTOW man who hasn't slept with a woman in years is really getting respect from other men no matter how much he whines about it on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 11:42 PM
1

Women have the right to select from more men than ever before. Every problem you bring up is the result of them selecting poorly. No, the current SMP is great for women. They just don't think their decisions through.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/19 01:46 PM
1

Of course, but you can rarely measure talent, only proficiency (someone can be untalented but become proficient through hardwork and vice versa). Someone showing mastery or proficiency in a hobby is sexy because it shows they have the drive, passion, and discipline to become good at that thing. Definitely lifts her a few points up in my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 04:03 PM
0

My anecdata: 1.) a lot of conservative guys are right of center or libertarian. Most conservative women I know are that way for religious reasons. While this causes views to align at the ballot box it doesn’t equate to shared core principles or ideals. 2.) soyboy leftists don’t so well with women from what I’ve seen. Neither do the gun toting in your face trump supporters. The reasonably conservative men I know seem to do best out of all the political spectrum because they’re usually the most ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:54 PM
2

Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 08:40 AM
1

Absolutely, that's why all women want a doctor/lawyer even though a plumber also makes a very good living. Can't brag about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:24 PM
1

My philosophy is that "chad" is relative. If you're in a group of awkward highschoolers, the average looking guy is the chad. In a group of male models the one who is the richest is the "chad". There's always a chadlier chad and most chads know this. I've seen some real good looking dudes get crazy jealous fwiw.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:19 PM
4

True but if Chad says he doesn't want them around or wants more of her time then poof they're gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:15 PM
3

True, but they only want those conversations with a chad. They'll toss every orbiter in the trash to have a relationship with chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 06:13 PM
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I always feel like men and women "miss" each other with regards to this. Men want to give more affection than women want at the start of the relationship and then slowly tend to give less and less whereas most women dont' want/give much affection at the start but the more attached they get the more they want it/give it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:56 PM
3

Pre-selection. While some women may enjoy sex for it's own sake, the vast majority of even slutty women want a relationship. It's the same selection issue that men who can't have sex run into. If you meet a guy who know woman finds attractive and can't get a girl to sleep with him, most women would say it's a bit of a turn off/deal breaker for them. Imagine if you found out the guy at the bar you thought was cute had been turned down four times that day already. They may realize how petty that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:48 PM
1

For me it's mostly 3, and 5, and 7. 7 is particularly important because it builds upon itself. If it's known that you slept with a number of beautiful women (and you're not a douche about it) then it intrigues other women and makes it easier to get with them too ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:39 PM
2

The red pill tries to codefy into science and techniques what actually happens in nature. There are several underlying preceps that red pillers are 100% correct about, but they're too rigid in their beliefs and don't realize it's a spectrum. Like any "true believer" they'll defend their points to the absolute death and I think most blue pillers and women can't be bothered to debate for hours/days on end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:36 PM
5

If you thought that braincels was funny but this is terrible you're a hypocrite. It's the same sub just reversed. ​ EDIT: I'll include TRP people in with this as well. This is the natural reaction and I don't understand why people are so upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:26 PM
2

I find it funny how many asian women get mad that they're being "fetishized" by white guys only to then exclusively date white guys "cus that's the only race they're attracted to."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 10:03 PM
2

Women aren’t funny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 08:59 PM
14

My experience with beautiful women is that a lot of them are super insecure about their appearance, but not for the reasons you'd think. They KNOW they're attractive, the beautiful girl who never gets approached is all but a myth, most beautiful women get hit on, asked out, approached, constantly. I'm talking multiple times a day. After a while it gets in their head that a pretty face is all they are, because everyone they talk to has the ulterior motive of wanting to sleep with them. Any accomp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 08:05 PM
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It's too unique to each relationship to say for certain imo. Generally there's one person that "leads" the relationship but it's often the more social one, so it can be a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 07:27 PM
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I didn't like the red pill, I thought the sub was full of tryhards. What I don't like is all of the "moderation" appears to only go one way on reddit. You have some really crazy leftist subs that are just as bad as braincels and trp (and often worse) that aren't penalized at all. Much like with the media, all of the "mistakes" tend to go one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:14 PM
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This question is too vague to be answered. Obviously for reproduction purposes they both need each other 100%. Taking reproduction factors out, society is at its healthiest when both genders are represented. For individual happiness I believe both sides are declining now that more and more people are living life single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:10 PM
4

Well one party is advocating for #believeallwomen, no due process for men, and thinks that women are oppressed in the West today even though that very concept is laughable....so it would be advantageous for women to ally with that party. It would be advantageous for men to not ally with that party.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 02:38 AM
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This may technically work, but it's far from the proper way to address this issue. Maybe men should just not rape women, how bout that? When a man is debating to rape or sexually assault someone, how about he just not do it, that's only one step!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 07:28 PM
2

I believe empirical data shows the opposite of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 07:06 PM
1

Technology and access to instant gratification for both genders (validation for women, sexual release for men) is causing both sexes to become hyper picky when selecting partners (women moreso than men because they can afford to be). Dealing with the average member of the opposite sex is such a chore. Why listen to some girl talk about how much she loves wine, netflix, and animals, but is completely unique and nerdy because she likes Harry Potter when you can just watch porn. I'm sure women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 07:04 PM
2

A lot of e thots have men handling them. They're not smart enough to figure this out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 12:36 PM
1

They sure are. Women have it pretty good in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 02:25 AM
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It's not that women want to abandon traditional gender norms that bugs people. It's that they want to abandon traditional gender norms while keeping men chained to theirs. The man should, of course, do all the manual labor, still make more money, still be the traditional "man" and man up whenever he has to and be the stoic rock of the family while the woman can do whatever she wants. If it was complete freedom for both sexes men wouldn't care, but the female dating market shows they very much st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 04:58 PM
1

I've dated two girls who are instamodels, one got into it way after we broke up, the other I dated while she was "on the rise". That lifestyle is nowhere near as much fun as it appears and the type of people it attracts... For what it's worth, both girls were somewhat vapid and shallow (and I am too for dating them). I just feel like it's pandering to the lowest common denominator of men and to me personally, it just doesn't hit right, and it doesn't with a lot of men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 04:46 PM
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I think instamodeling is mainly done by vapid, insecure, photo obsessed women, but there is an extremely lucrative market there. I hate the market more than the women and all the simps who fall all over these girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 12:18 PM
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He's got the same issue a lot of women have, if he can't find his ideal (way above his league) than he'd rather be alone. A lot of people say this is a bad development but I think choosing to be alone is a good development in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 01:14 AM
2

Personally I've noted it's a mental psych up thing. I have a friend who's physically maybe a 6? If he sees a girl who's a 9 he's obviously attracted to her. He'll frequently find some flaw with her or more or less make one up so that all of the sudden she's a 7. Suddenly he feels like he's not too far below her league and can ask her out. He does this a lot and occasionally has success. That's why all these guys ask out women out of their league, because very rarely you will get a yes. I have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 12:47 AM
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I have the option to date significantly younger and all I can say is....have you met these girls? If you're pushing 30 and you're not annoyed by the tik tok, vine, snapchat filter life they're all obsessed with, I would wager there's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 03:01 PM
1

Idk how I could handle the time commitment of actually dating one woman some days, let alone two or more. I prefer plate spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:57 PM
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I think that problem runs both ways and neither gender will admit it. I think a lot of guys devalue the numerical ranking of women because either some guys have higher standards or rank differently and also because if he acknowledges the 9 is a 9 than he might feel like she's out of her league and human romance dynamics are based around men doing mental gymnastics to get the courage they need to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:52 PM
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Both genders do this. Getting with one super attractive partner leads them to believe they can get with a multiple others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 06:01 PM
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Maybe. I'm an attorney and I used to do divorces. I've mentioned on reddit before that the problem with most marriages is that both parties settled for each other. Plenty of mediocre men meet mediocre women and then they have a mediocre marriage that one of them decides doesn't make them happy. I'm smart enough to avoid settling. If I met the woman of my dreams I would like to get married.... ​ ​ ​ ​ ...on the other hand I like the ability to opt out of the relationship with no problems as women…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:20 AM
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My anecdata is different than yours. I'm in my late 20s and a shockingly large number of women still live with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:12 AM
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Only one of your points is an actual shift in culture and that's the female empowerment in hollywood. Hollywood is trying to say that women can do anything that men can do (like the new female bond) and not really looking at whether women even want to do the things that men want. Media is doing that because capitalism. As for your other points: - divorcing a man and taking half (or more than half) his stuff even after that man was so nice and kind and invested so much into the relationship I'm a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 11:53 PM
2

They're starting to. All anecdotal but a good chunk of my taller male friends have mentioned they want to date taller women so that there sons will be taller. I never heard anything like this before 2018, and before that heard the opposite, the guys wanting someone shorter. I'm 5'11 and I'd like kids my height or taller so I actively look for taller women when thinking LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 12:18 AM
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