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illusiveab/r/askTRP03/12/14 12:38 AM
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Everything reverts back to the biological position and this is what it is
/r/TheRedPill27/07/21 12:07 AM
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Yeah I mean, I was pointing out that generally that's an optimal place to start, not that it was all-encompassing, hence "a lot" and not "all."
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 02:26 PM
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I think it's entirely multifactorial - it's resources, skills, mentality, physique. There is no one cure-all in my world. One weakness impacts another as one strength does.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 02:04 PM
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Lifting is better than not lifting, so what's your point? Social media hasn't made anyone aware of their value - it's like the stock market - built on leverage and often overextended based on fair value. There are plenty of cucks with resources, can't be that. Physical change is more noticeable and sustainable than any other resource allocation or change.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 12:35 PM
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A lot can be done simply by lifting and the rest is just mental masturbation or if your girl is dumb enough to read into social media stats
/r/TheRedPill30/06/21 12:58 AM
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All change is constant and we should expect, as Aurelius said, that people close to us will die. Use what's left now to build yourself and honor these people. Grieve and move forward.
/r/askTRP16/01/21 12:04 AM
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Exactly
/r/askTRP05/01/21 09:04 PM
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Sounds like some tryhard shit Trump would say
/r/askTRP05/01/21 07:18 PM
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This is weird
/r/askTRP05/01/21 06:45 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. From my perspective, I've always had no problem dumping girls based on my dealbreakers. As I've gotten older, I've ultimately been trying to find a high quality girl to LTR and have kids but I keep coming back to the idea that none will probably ever fully avoid dealbreakers. So I've been forced to choose between weighting those dealbreakers to some degree (softer ones only) because how many times can you start over? You have to establish something eventuall…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/20 10:32 PM
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You can bang your girl endlessly and ruthlessly and I highly doubt that, lacking many other factors, she would bother to stay for that reason. You're ignoring hypergamous value.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/20 06:54 PM
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I don't disagree with you but that's not a primary mechanism of power or control
/r/TheRedPill10/11/20 06:46 PM
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The truth of this is that sex isn't a sustainable mechanism for control. Girls can get dick whenever they want. The mechanism for true control is value. If you keep adding value and you keep your boundaries/dealbreakers firm over time, then you will maintain control.
/r/TheRedPill10/11/20 02:50 PM
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Not OP but people can call a spade a spade when it comes to it
/r/TheRedPill10/11/20 02:48 AM
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I guess we're just completely ignoring social proof now. But the internet doesn't vet anyone for their success so anyone can really throw their opinion out there now I suppose.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/20 02:58 PM
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I don't use Tinder but I can understand the importance of using social media to get a solid girl. To each his own but I agree with having bigger priorities.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/20 02:12 PM
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Never thought I'd see the day a bunch of grown men would criticize tactics to getting decent pussy during a global pandemic lol
/r/TheRedPill15/10/20 12:39 PM
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Say what you want about the culture but not compulsively masturbating or watching porn is incredibly healthy.
/r/askTRP13/10/20 08:06 PM
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Bottom line is, NoFap makes you hungry for women. Women can sense it, trust me. This should be a banner here, so true.
/r/askTRP13/10/20 02:35 PM
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/thread
/r/askTRP28/09/20 03:36 PM
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I love seeing posts where the answer is so obvious but it gets posted anyway
/r/askTRP18/09/20 04:17 AM
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Are you me?
/r/askTRP13/09/20 02:27 PM
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Know this feeling, dated 9/10 model with big social media presence. But as top comment OP is correct. I have the same feeling as you about IG and have been working on my profile.
/r/askTRP10/09/20 03:44 AM
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Some of us just like space bro, it's not that deep
/r/askTRP15/08/20 11:39 PM
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/thread
/r/askTRP02/08/20 04:45 AM
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/thread
/r/askTRP01/08/20 02:35 AM
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No it's that the two ideas are incongruent
/r/askTRP26/07/20 01:05 PM
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don't break up plate What is it
/r/askTRP25/07/20 08:52 PM
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This is good advice: lead by example.
/r/askTRP22/07/20 12:25 AM
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Lol lazy advice, women are as lazy as you allow them to be
/r/askTRP21/07/20 11:46 PM
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Indeterminate on my direction, lack of frame and resources, emotionally invested
/r/askTRP17/07/20 01:44 AM
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You can never have enough money if you're investing properly my dude
/r/TheRedPill28/03/20 10:17 PM
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why the fuck don't you lift
/r/TheRedPill21/03/20 06:46 PM
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as blue pill as it comes
/r/askTRP08/03/20 05:46 PM
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My first thought
/r/askTRP08/03/20 08:49 AM
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I really think this is it. Think about where you started and where you are now and acknowledge it's generally impossible to say that your mindset is even close to the same. Being responsible, accountable, and honest changes your life and you can't uncouple that experience from your identity. Those same values change the nature of your relationships as well as your overall willingness to engage and 'settle down'.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/20 02:35 AM
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It depends on the girl. My girl is a petite model from LATAM with ~7k followers on IG and I have like 400. I'd say it's mostly American girls that care about lame shit like that.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/20 02:30 AM
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RIP
/r/askTRP16/02/20 03:49 AM
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No doubt, but I think the problem is assigning objective metrics to that pursuit. If you have advisement, please feel free to share.
/r/askTRP06/02/20 05:28 AM
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I've been in OP's shoes but I honestly just don't think I'm getting the quality I'm looking for
/r/askTRP06/02/20 03:45 AM
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This. IG acts as a currency nowadays where the quality of your pictures determines a lot about your social value. Dating is an access class and IG is the most valuable currency currently.
/r/askTRP02/02/20 04:37 PM
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/thread "A man must stand erect, not be kept erect by others." -Aurelius
/r/askMRP01/02/20 07:14 AM
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Girls who are the most contentious often give you the greatest feeling of polarized control. We all know tobacco is bad for you but many still do it because it's addictive physically and mentally yet still under your control. Once you understand this, you can begin to walk away from it.
/r/askTRP12/01/20 02:59 PM
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6'5 240 and your max bench is 285? Lol I'm 5'11 175 and my max bench is 265. Get your fucking weight up my dude.
/r/askTRP08/01/20 09:00 PM
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This is archaic. Hoodies and caps are solid when worn correctly.
/r/askTRP07/01/20 04:00 AM
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One of the worst pieces of advice unless it is an interactive event. You can just say "I've been meaning to do XYZ, let's do it together" and not sound like a moron.
/r/askTRP18/12/19 08:28 PM
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Why should I have to sift through Wikipedia to better understand a specific point you're making? If you're serious about your point, you should be more than willing to source your comment to make it effective.
/r/askTRP18/12/19 08:24 PM
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Provide a link so everyone knows exactly what you're referencing, don't be lazy
/r/askTRP18/12/19 07:39 PM
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Most of the posts these days are just obvious shit requiring online validation
/r/askTRP01/12/19 08:25 PM
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Facts. Never answer the phone on the weekends? This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Also no staying over? Don't be fuckin dumb.
/r/askTRP29/10/19 09:49 PM
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Cocky/funny never fails. DeAngelo ftw.
/r/askTRP18/10/19 04:28 PM
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Anyone who gets dates consistently knows it's tough to sustain 2-3 plates mentally if you have a high quality lifestyle and job
/r/askTRP23/09/19 09:59 PM
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Ah yes, kenja time
/r/askTRP19/07/19 07:52 PM
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All of life is about the spread and competency of your genetics based on fitness. That's what basic biology tells you if you listen. Lifting not only increases your physical fitness, but it equally enables you to fight, if necessary, for your right to survive and procreate. It seeks to increase your SMV consciously and subconsciously.
/r/askTRP08/07/19 12:56 AM
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Ozzie and 60 Years definitely fucked
/r/TheRedPill05/07/19 03:57 AM
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The Enchiridion is the bible
/r/askTRP27/05/19 06:39 PM
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Someone should frame this. This is very good and concise advice.
/r/askMRP26/05/19 04:56 PM
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Most importantly I realised how weed and other drugs take out your will to be better. I get high, I skip everything and end up locked in my room. It is never worth messing your life for a few moments of pleasure. You have to start somewhere! Little, full on monk mode, doesn’t matter. Just start man. Fucking quit weed cold turkey, start gym. Weed pulls out the life out of you. It makes you a lazy anxious stupid butt. And fucking stop making excuses you baby. If you read anything in this thread OP…
/r/askTRP20/05/19 04:19 PM
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Back away and begin to improve physically and mentally immediately.
/r/askMRP03/05/19 02:26 PM
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Pretty much every wealthy, intelligent person reads constantly. I just saw an article somewhere the other day about Charlie Munger's recommended books and it was noted that Warren reads all the time as well. The constant pursuit of knowledge is a type of self-claimed freedom.
/r/askTRP01/05/19 03:24 AM
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Hide ya manuscripts, hide ya Rollo, they rapin' everybody out here
/r/askTRP08/04/19 08:15 PM
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Sexual selection is objectively amoral, any man who attaches principle to it is free to determine his fate as far as reason is concerned. I think many truly alpha men would avoid this situation with fair abundance owing to the unnecessary complications it might create.
/r/askTRP06/04/19 03:05 PM
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I'm genuinely curious why it's so hard for men to read between the lines. Being alpha isn't just sex only nor is beta just resources, it's 100% about calibrating investment into both yourself and your partner. There are, I shit you not, many alpha men who have hot, loyal wives with resources. Those that are successful are largely in one group: pursuing further resources and increasing their own individual value. Vetting your chick for consistent value in any LTR is the same fundamental process o…
/r/askMRP31/03/19 07:18 PM
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This is only half correct. Saying that no definitive green flags exist is pure misleading, eliciting that there's no real truth to them. The context of the flags is more important. All you can really do regardless is play good offense/defense and increase your value as you age.
/r/askTRP30/03/19 07:51 PM
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Yeah I know this, but it sounds like your reactions to it are suboptimal judging from your text. I still think you're on the right track, and that the prescription is to work it a few more times and then let it go. My advice is essentially a generous anti-dump's machine.
/r/askTRP29/03/19 05:20 PM
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You're playing into a shitty place if you're showing that it impacts you. It makes you look like a little bitch IMO. You're going to receive LMR in the major leagues and by the sound of it, you're not there yet. You have to treat it as an abundance play. Have fun with it. If she doesn't show up eventually, it's a demotion and soft next.
/r/askTRP29/03/19 05:06 PM
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OP is red, but he's not being forced to make any truly difficult decisions. They say one good girl is worth one thousand bitches so long as OP understands frame. He clearly does, so he should maintain frame, consolidate side hustles, and add value in other areas.
/r/askTRP22/03/19 12:41 AM
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I always find this dynamic to be the hardest to understand in pretty much all dating: hard boundaries (red flags) vs DGAF. It seems like most advocate DGAF until LTR then hard boundaries but that seems kind of ignorant. Any sorting advice would be appreciated.
/r/askTRP19/03/19 05:07 PM
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Online dating is a massive Nash equilibrium
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 08:17 PM
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You show emotions, the world will make you pay for it. Emotions = reaction. Reaction = judgment. In my experience, even if justified, people will begin to dislike you if you show enough negative emotions. This is because (1) most people lack the capacity to make these judgment calls and understand good/bad simplistically; and (2) because many other people will think similarly. If you show any emotion at all, let it be positive emotion at any given time. Don't be too quick to praise, nor too aloo…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 07:01 PM
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This is WSB level autism
/r/askTRP14/02/19 07:56 PM
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Even the most blue pilled people start to see ideological patterns after a while
/r/TheRedPill08/02/19 12:59 AM
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This is basic gold. Keep investing in yourself at all times and remain priority #1.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/19 04:57 PM
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It shouldn't be about other options. It's about the priority of the issue and your desire to have a compatible vision for your future.
/r/RedPillWomen28/08/18 11:22 PM
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Not following? You absolutely can.
/r/askTRP10/07/18 02:23 PM
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This somewhat strikes me as correct in the situation. I can imagine the trust essential to this LTR will rely on how much distance is placed between the girl and the friend. If they are in regular contact, whether through OP or not, even as 'friends', it would be difficult for OP to trust.
/r/askTRP09/07/18 06:53 PM
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OP is vetting for long-term. Even though the aphorism applies ubiquitously, it doesn't tell him how to apply it in this particular situation.
/r/askTRP09/07/18 05:39 PM
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That's a Fabolous line I believe. Think Joe put it better with "for every bad girl, there's a dude tired of fucking her."
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 03:52 AM
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real tl;dr: the pussy is never as good as you think it will be
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 03:49 AM
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Women are a luxury who rarely offer the greatest and most proactive man an answer to anything. The life partner is as much an illusion as anything you create between you two. In return for your resources, you often receive her value, time, or looks, but rarely much else.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/18 10:57 PM
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But he has his own subreddit
/r/TheRedPill14/06/18 07:09 PM
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She doesn't belong to you, it's just your turn
/r/TheRedPill14/06/18 05:13 PM
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Get through the whole book on principle alone and give it time. The contents of it are second to none when considering improvement of yourself as a man and your relationships.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/18 05:24 AM
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Yes and the converse is true to a large degree
/r/becomeaman16/03/18 04:47 PM
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I've read Models but explain
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 03:32 AM
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But it's hard to tell if she enjoys it or not. You can't be captain of the ship with anxiety in your stomach
/r/TheRedPill02/02/18 03:30 AM
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Not every field report has to be some personal [laid/not laid] scenario. TRP is as much about learning and sharing realities as much as it is about enacting your own. Not every dude in TRP is some desperate blue pill convert that needs to try to fuck every chick they know either.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/17 01:15 AM
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I mean..if your friend likes big girls, that's cool. But let's not pretend like fucking big girls for the sake of getting laid is a legitimate means by which to judge the standard. I'd rather jerk off or work harder than simply accept "welp this is the best I can do" and act like I'm hitting my pinnacle just because I'm getting laid a lot.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/17 09:40 PM
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lol she did you a favor
/r/askTRP01/11/17 01:10 AM
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A B U N D A N C E
/r/askTRP10/10/17 06:39 PM
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This is my point to even OP. You're giving time for sex without commitment and if that's it (i.e. no emotional investment) then you're straight. You can fuck her all you want while you pursue other higher value options.
/r/askTRP28/09/17 03:12 PM
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bingo..jesus christ these type of posts make me sorry for masculinity.
/r/askTRP18/09/17 04:00 PM
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the gift of ED is shift-work because there's no call, GP is also decent but you don't make that much money considering the top end of medicine and the debt associated with learning it.
/r/askTRP18/09/17 03:28 PM
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They joke about it even - my friend was just telling me about how that HBO show "Insecure" makes a recurring joke out of a woman's "hoetation" or whatever and it's funny/cool. If a dude said that, he'd be lambasted as a fuck boy/player and criticized.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/17 04:30 PM
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Exactly, if you had a girlfriend and you met some other girl that was equally hot/cool or better, you'd probably jump ship. A man who cares for his woman will continue to focus on himself and his options because anything less is asking to be replaced. There is no charity in this.
/r/TheRedPill01/09/17 04:22 PM
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You think anyone taught me those values? I had to learn them just like you, but the difference is that, for the purposes of this thread, the concept is relatively simple. Are you more or less likely to want to approach and fuck a girl if you can simply bust your own nut in your own fantasy world forever? The answer is no. In order to get and keep the girl, you have to actually WANT to fuck her. Mark Manson discussed this really well back in the day actually.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/17 03:49 PM
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yeah it's called confidence
/r/TheRedPill17/07/17 03:27 PM
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You mean people have finally figured out that jerking off is instant gratification? And that there might be benefits to delayed gratification? This is nothing new. The same thing is true of porn, it's just gratification. Holding your seed and not getting laid is fucking retarded, but holding it to enhance your drive to have sex, to approach women, and to mitigate jerking off for the sensation are solid concepts.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/17 03:25 PM
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otherwise known as /r/advanceddeadbedroom
/r/askTRP16/07/17 03:19 PM
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Exactly. Watch, observe, STFU.
/r/askMRP16/07/17 03:12 PM
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This is the most systemic Machiavellian response one could ask for. This girl is a bad influence and there is no telling how much she could impart her influence over a long time, particularly if shit blows up in her friend's face. Would be best to try and subvert some of this influence over the long term by feeding that low value perception.
/r/askMRP16/07/17 03:11 PM
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You need to read the sidebar more thoroughly and exercise outcome independence here. You are literally jumping in with two feet and saturating your attention.
/r/askTRP15/07/17 12:34 AM
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Where exactly does STFU come from literature-wise?
/r/askMRP13/07/17 01:42 PM
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There is really nothing to fix. In fact, the lack of fixing is a fix.
/r/MarriedRedPill25/06/17 07:19 PM
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Fair
/r/askMRP21/06/17 03:07 PM
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What about boundaries? 8 does not equal 10 so technically she crossed that line. What about the principle of the matter?
/r/askMRP21/06/17 02:46 PM
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Why is it all or nothing? LTR or bust? Just calibrate and take it one step at a time.
/r/askTRP20/06/17 12:55 PM
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This is just basic stoicism. The foundations of it constitute that any sort of negative emotion is an error in judgment because we control entirely how we react and think about everything in the external world. Thus, nothing needs to be negative or harmful per se.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/17 02:13 AM
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Your wilks is average unless you deadlift 400+
/r/askTRP06/04/17 04:01 AM
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I guess I have a slightly differentiated definition of plating because I don't view it as the deadly sinkhole y'all do. I'm a male, so when I say plating is a necessary step, it simply means it's non-committal at that point. That doesn't mean forever.
/r/RedPillWomen28/01/17 02:49 PM
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You should be plated..the point of plates is really to discern whether or not you have the qualities to progress to LTR. Plating is a necessary first step to that objective.
/r/RedPillWomen27/01/17 04:56 PM
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This is a good answer, mostly because it illustrates that when she makes you angry, you officially enter her frame once you react.
/r/askTRP24/01/17 10:25 PM
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You make your choices and control your thought patterns..any deviation is just excuse
/r/TheRedPill24/01/17 07:02 AM
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Short term gains: buy mass gainer but only use it to supplement meals. Use VitD milk to supplement as well. Find your cal intake. Long term: use your cal intake to adjust your diet and add 500-700 cals/day. This is a more sustainable method of mass gain.
/r/askTRP16/01/17 05:59 PM
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Your premise is basically the same as anti-dump, which is a good attempt at minimalism
/r/MGTOW06/01/17 04:40 PM
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Anti-dump
/r/askTRP02/01/17 03:31 PM
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This is likely the best answer you'll find. I think it depends on the stage that a higher SMV male hits her up too..if she's happy with you, she'll probably ignore, if she's not, she'll probably be receptive. Weirdly enough, if you keep raising your SMV even when your relationship is not going well, you will likely still retain her because she doesn't sense stagnancy in your value. I tend to think most women branch swing via hypergamy when they sense that your value has ultimately peaked. Other …
/r/askTRP31/12/16 02:00 AM
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y'all care waaaaaay too much
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 02:40 AM
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This shows you lack field experience. If you have confidence and know your body language, you can crush this and get results. It's basically just dartboard negging.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 02:39 AM
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While I don't agree with the tactic, you have to admit that it doesn't really matter what she thinks. That shit is over.
/r/askTRP23/12/16 02:56 PM
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There is no real social media game. Limit the small talk, ask her out, talk in person. She's already interested so really, it's just mentally masturbating and fucking it up.
/r/askTRP11/12/16 05:46 PM
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competition anxiety, shit testing, mate guarding, take your pick.
/r/askTRP11/12/16 02:51 AM
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g-h-o-s-t
/r/askTRP11/12/16 02:48 AM
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Then drive up your SMV with social media and maintain as plate.
/r/askTRP07/12/16 12:33 AM
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Arms length at all times..always be able to walk away.
/r/askTRP06/12/16 01:17 AM
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I actually genuinely enjoy shit testing at this stage. Too many AFCs make their girl out to be a constant problem and don't realize that any dude worth his weight will just filter that shit out. If your objective isn't sex, even in an LTR, you will lose her. If your objective isn't to strike a balance between caring and detachment, you will lose her. At that golden mean, shit tests become fun. If your girl does or says something that is disrespectful, correct her, have boundaries. If your girl s…
/r/TheRedPill03/12/16 04:15 PM
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so you don't think there should be any rational discourse in a relationship?
/r/askTRP18/11/16 04:50 AM
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4 years man..and women are ready to just chuck it for some new dick. I already know it, and yet it still blows my mind every single time.
/r/askTRP18/11/16 03:34 AM
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Logic..G Easy..J Cole..hyped up??
/r/askTRP03/11/16 04:12 AM
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K.I.S.S.
/r/askTRP16/10/16 03:51 PM
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You can still swallow the pill and enter LTR. The issue for most people is frame and emotion maintenance. In reality, women are no different from any other human being that is essentially as unpredictable as the wind. If you treat it this way and are free to let go as necessary, then you will have no problem like OP has. Men overcommit to women way too much. Your mission is your mission first and foremost.
/r/askTRP13/10/16 04:47 AM
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Was an accident, give it to her, move on
/r/askTRP28/09/16 01:55 AM
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If you were plating more, this wouldn't even be a thread.
/r/askTRP07/09/16 11:32 PM
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/thread OP
/r/askTRP28/08/16 12:05 AM
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I don't think it is inherently wrong to ask for advice. It's what any man would and should do if he has experts available to him. The difference is trying to mitigate your exposure to bad variables by asking questions. The truth is simple: men like you had to be rejected and experience failure to move their lives forward and understand the lessons hidden within those two impostors. You have to be willing to fail to succeed and you have to be willing to lose girls to get them. You have to be will…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/16 06:19 PM
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Aren't you wary of the increased estrogen profile that comes with excess soy consumption?
/r/TheRedPill05/07/16 07:29 PM
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Probably the only reason to lift is to do it properly. Otherwise, you won't get shit all out of it.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/16 11:53 PM
2

That's a little excessive. "Nope, I'm a real dick" "Nope, I'm a real jerk"
/r/askTRP18/06/16 07:43 PM
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If she's a plate, why do you care? She is still bothering to contact you. You want her to be equal to your effort but at the end of the day, are you fucking her? That physical connection is what matters in plateland.
/r/askTRP18/06/16 01:04 AM
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No man has ever done that before
/r/askTRP08/06/16 02:49 PM
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/thread
/r/askTRP07/06/16 05:44 PM
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/thread
/r/askTRP02/06/16 09:51 PM
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Yup - I think I just read your post a little differently than you asked it.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/16 04:20 PM
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or is she free to sleep with other dudes I'm not OP, but she is going to do whatever she feels. You can't actually negotiate attraction. You don't have a contract, even if you explicitly say "we are exclusive." If you fuck up your game and some other dude comes along with mack, you think she's just going to honor your words? Not likely. My whole point: it's really a non-question because thinking there are contractual obligations is just entangling shit more than necessary. She's going to do what…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/16 03:57 PM
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Here's what he's trying to say but can't: your mom stays because your dad doesn't supplicate to her. The problem for most men is not investment, it's over-investment. Your dad isn't doing anything special, he's just not prioritizing her. She doesn't want to be #1, and as long as he's meeting her agenda, she's good. It has nothing to do with his attitude - his attitude is a byproduct of his investment. I'm more convinced that women view a guy who openly shows contempt for inadequacy is a sign of …
/r/TheRedPill01/06/16 03:50 PM
3

I know this is difficult but you have to be willing to give her up at any point in your relationship. The idea that there might be someone else doesn't actually matter because she doesn't belong to you. If you are unhappy with your relationship with her, dread her. If you don't see any change, demote to plate and maintain dread. The whole point is that you're not just hanging around on her terms. I'm going to paraphrase her but the only way to mitigate your chances of being cheated on is to be t…
/r/askTRP01/06/16 03:45 AM
1

Yup, this. Chicks that are afraid of losing you stay concerned about how you'll perceive them. If you have to remind her so often without real consequence, she's smart and realizes you are not leaving.
/r/askTRP04/05/16 03:43 PM
1

This is the right track, she's texting you because she's thinking about you. All you have to do is recognize this and play it. It's your opportunity to tease her sexually because that's where you'll connect with her. Keep it sexual FIRST, that's what she wants and needs from you.
/r/askTRP03/05/16 03:53 AM
9

Most of these responses just sound defensive as fuck or awkward. Have some fun with it, play around, you're above acting like a petty little bitch remember? That's not what an elite male would do. On some low key shit, I'd probably just reply asking her what color panties she is wearing.
/r/askTRP03/05/16 02:39 AM
2

Most of that shit is mental masturbation. I generally agree with the camp that holds texting game as a means of setting things up to see each other and not much else. Practically, it's both. You have natural interactions and you set up opportunities to meet up but the point is to never text too much. Keep it to a minimum so you have animation and material for when you're actually together.
/r/askTRP03/01/16 05:54 PM
3

Don't bother..she feels that shit and will launch nothing but drama into your life the further you prolong your ties just for the sake of it. You sound like you're basically just fucking her and calling her your girlfriend by proxy, so my advice is to sack up and discern your perspective on the situation and hold it. It doesn't matter if this is a shit test or whathaveyou, it matters that she is unsettled and looking to you to show your merit with decisiveness either way.
/r/askTRP02/01/16 07:01 PM
10

Remember, girls only respect, and thereby can only "love" guys who respect themselves. Every single man on planet Earth should take time out of his day to reflect on the value of this statement
/r/TheRedPill31/12/15 08:29 PM
2

You control how you feel and it is up to you to overcome any stifling emotional bullshit that your brain creates. Once you realize this, you can work to move beyond it. There is no "internal" sense of morality that you need to abide by if you do not actually believe in it.
/r/askTRP05/12/15 08:36 PM
1

Such an underrated answer..keep shit to yourself gentlemen. Your business is only your business.
/r/askTRP05/12/15 08:35 PM
2

Exactly..Manson is pretty much saying get out there and eliminate your outcome dependence. Be yourself, but be the best version of yourself. Be vulnerable in understanding your weaknesses. Bridge that gap and improve. Otherwise you will attract a lot of women who are not what you actually want.
/r/askTRP28/11/15 04:25 PM
30

This. Dude isn't your friend. He belittled you to build his SMV and the girl saw your lack of action as weakness. When he acts up, you need to discredit him immediately and show a strong, consolidated reaction that lets everyone know how you are to be treated.
/r/askTRP28/11/15 03:57 PM
1

Why the fuck can't some of y'all understand that some things aren't meant to be on public display, even if they aren't necessarily devious? Relationships are as much about perception as they are facts, you always keep this at the forefront.
/r/askTRP28/11/15 03:49 PM
5

Precisely..this whole wall of text is a huge red flag and basically did you a huge favor. Move on OP.
/r/askTRP26/11/15 09:06 PM
1

Don't bother
/r/askTRP07/09/15 04:16 AM
7

And spent the rest of the night setting up something else
/r/askTRP01/06/15 11:14 PM
1

I don't really understand why the core of TRP is even that difficult. Have a core mission and everything else runs parallel to that. It's really just about not putting too much effort or faith into one particular girl. If you are constantly working on your own life, then that will naturally leak into the rest of it and you will get what you want/need. I fuck an HB9 right now and she isn't the smartest girl I've ever met but she has goals and ambitions and my dread game with her is all based on t…
/r/askTRP30/03/15 09:28 PM
2

Oneitis to the core. You need to re-evaluate your life's mission and how much self-esteem you place into women. You're placing waaaaaaaaaaay too much emphasis on small shit, no chick is out of your league unless you allow her to be.
/r/askTRP30/01/15 06:56 PM
6

Even that is too much..people make shitty decisions and what's done is done. Consider yourself grateful she showed her true colors before it was any more serious.
/r/askTRP26/01/15 04:52 AM
10

If you understand why women are in it, then you can take that as a clear reality and not as a "personal" deterrent. As in, yeah she's obviously in it for my money, but who cares because I'm just about fucking her. He's not in it for the affection, so who cares. If you have it, use the matrix to your benefit.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/15 08:55 PM
1

This - you really want to take back some chick that fucked some other jabroni while she had you at the ready? Focus on you, look forward friend.
/r/askTRP16/01/15 06:31 PM
3

Top line for you to recite in this situation - she was indeed never yours, it was just your turn.
/r/askTRP28/12/14 04:03 PM
5

This is good advice with good contrast. Get involved, learn new skills, meet new women but don't push anything too hard, have drinks with friends (new and old). It will take some time but you'll eventually get over her bullshit and find someone else.
/r/TheRedPill19/12/14 02:44 AM
1

Do better Don't do worse
/r/askTRP15/12/14 09:20 PM
1

Finally, thank you. This is excellent.
/r/askTRP03/12/14 11:17 PM
1

I mean, think about it this way. You can't think of any maxims that help to guide you when you are discerning how to act? Something concise and direct that reminds you what core principles underlie rightly acting.
/r/askTRP03/12/14 09:40 PM
1

I don't think that's a good example
/r/askTRP03/12/14 08:07 PM
0

I have read it..I just think it could be more concisely framed for training purposes.
/r/askTRP03/12/14 01:05 AM
1

Fair, that is definitely correct.
/r/askTRP03/12/14 12:28 AM
1

How can one know how to act in every single instance every time?
/r/askTRP03/12/14 12:20 AM
1

That work..nailed it.
/r/askTRP02/12/14 05:54 AM
1

Because love is a self-concept - it is something you have with or without her but is formed particularly in her direction and image for as long as it lasts. It's something built and shared out of the substantiality and commitment to yourself and your interests. Love that centers and hinges on unbalanced emotional attachment is reckless and unpredictably toxic.
/r/seduction13/05/14 06:14 PM
5

Look broski, you're an ape on a planet orbiting a black hole with no purpose. Just get your mind together and figure out that there are no boundaries to confidence - there's no easy way to create it, it takes time, practice, effort, thought.
/r/seduction04/04/14 08:46 PM
1

Solid perspective. The world of attraction is built into by belief. Once you figure out your particular relationship with the world, nothing else really fazes you.
/r/seduction15/03/14 08:05 PM
1

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. That is all you need to know.
/r/seduction15/03/14 08:01 PM
4

Be done OP..too much perspective still lends to reason that she is not the girl you're looking for.
/r/seduction03/02/14 02:45 PM
1

It's not inhumane to avoid the typical series of apologies and she was drunk and she cares blah blah to just end it. Conversations at this point would probably just be a front.
/r/seduction03/02/14 02:43 PM
0

Then stop posting shit and get your shit together.
/r/seduction23/01/14 02:20 AM
1

Think about your life in a context - you are focusing so much on one girl because she is fit into your life's history and schema. You are literally talking about her on a website like she's the only chick in the universe. You keep thinking it can work out, so you rationalize putting more work in will yield different results - that's completely false. The point is..if she's not keen, take a step back, invest in yourself (no matter how old you are), and know that there are an abundance of girls th…
/r/seduction23/01/14 01:17 AM
1

Oneitis..pretty simple to remedy.
/r/seduction22/01/14 06:15 AM
12

Don't flirt..charm. Put in some slight work seducing her friends but don't go overboard.
/r/seduction19/01/14 05:43 PM
2

Because I'm not worried about those chicks, I'll get to em if I want to. Not every chick is even that entertaining - appreciate the good you find.
/r/seduction17/07/13 07:11 AM
-3

I kid I kid..it's funny to even refer to it as "night game" anymore
/r/seduction17/07/13 07:08 AM
-6

The fuck is game
/r/seduction17/07/13 06:53 AM
2

Most of the first portion of what you've said, for me, is just semantics. If it works for you, it works. If not, chances are it borders on try-hard. I can't comment because I don't know you or this girl. You don't have to be intensely sexual - you just have to give a response fitting the nature of your genuine thoughts. If you like it one way, say it. You don't have to play slick - you're better off just having a preference because (at least in my mind in your situation) she is dressing for me. …
/r/seduction14/07/13 04:07 AM
5

OP, this is decent work but honestly, you could have closed and you should have at least escalated and left it at its peak. Get her started, use language to help you - "damn, you look so good tonight, you're getting me worked up and I'm not going to be able to stop myself soon" - this is where false time constraints can actually be genuine. She'll think "why would he? I'm hot" - and you'll think "Yeah, but I can control myself." Then, when she says she needs to get up early, you escalate her...e…
/r/seduction14/07/13 01:01 AM
5

You don't really have to "hold" anything - you just can't sink into your desperate little skull like you've committed some gross atrocity if she doesn't respond like "YEAH PLEASE FUCK ME"....it's just having some balls.
/r/seduction14/07/13 12:53 AM
1

And 10 minutes away from their next hookup honestly. Depends on the girl, but in terms of what's going on inside her, she's not as innocent as you may think.
/r/seduction12/07/13 04:27 PM
6

Look at how unsettled you are over some random shit. Chances are, you probably tipped your hand more than you are assuming and she saw it. There are a million reasons why women don't respond at times - quit being frustrated like an idiot and spend your emotional welfare more wisely.
/r/seduction12/07/13 04:22 PM
8

To be fair OP, you're giving a description to guys that have little to no idea how, exactly, these types of social dynamics are calibrated. A guy like me, I can understand this dude's situation, but then again, I have more social comprehension and practice than many in the sub. When you say "escalate, escalate, escalate," most guys are like..'uh OK, I will touch her in 2 minutes, then again in 5 minutes, look for IOIs, oh shit did I piss her off, she moved away' because they are not as socially …
/r/seduction02/07/13 05:27 PM
1

Because opening is probability-based on every level. Some girls will like you and others won't, and if you don't open, you'll never know either way. Therefore, probability-based opening allows you to open as many girls as you can in order to capitalize on that fact and maximize your happiness.
/r/seduction09/05/13 04:17 AM
3

Napoleon Hill
/r/seduction24/04/13 01:22 AM
5

Manson's take is more "this is a lifestyle and this is a small feature of it" rather than "cold read to impress girls like juggler"
/r/seduction24/04/13 01:22 AM
0

Hero we need and deserve.
/r/seduction20/04/13 08:46 AM
2

Models is legendary and Mark knows his shit.
/r/seduction20/04/13 08:40 AM
2

When a girl doesn't want to meet up with me, I go meet other girls who do.
/r/seduction20/04/13 08:33 AM
2

This kid knows his shit
/r/seduction20/04/13 08:29 AM
5

It all stems back to neediness. If you are needy, you will be afraid to escalate or show sexual interest. If you don't show sexual interest and escalate, attraction will fall apart and no affection can even begin to form. And if no affection can form in conjunction with sex, all the investment is useless.
/r/seduction26/12/12 03:41 AM
3

But the game, as it has evolved, no longer revolves around any actual seduction, or not in the individual sense. The idea is to build up a proud and defined stature that allows for a mutual attraction - something that represents all the social goods and masculine goods that allows relational development. Seduction is dead because it's an empty concept and a rethinking of attraction has killed it. There's nothing special you need to do or say - if you're truly engaged in the world as an attractiv…
/r/seduction11/12/12 11:23 PM
11

There are a lot of guys who come to this community full of bitterness towards women due to their longterm relationship problems. This community helps to educate these guys into a more mature understanding of social dynamics, that their problems are their own fault, they cannot blame everyone else. THIS is exactly why I can never understood all the negative perception that this subreddit receives. Perhaps r/seduction is a misnomer for the active direction this place is headed. It's really more li…
/r/seduction11/12/12 10:19 PM
8

Quit fighting like a bunch of females and just be cordial. This subreddit does not need your bullshit.
/r/seduction24/11/12 05:00 PM
8

Wrong..if approaching is based on probability, your exposure to a larger, more diverse population of women not only increases the possibility of reception but also what you'll experience in women.
/r/seduction08/11/12 04:31 PM
1

I think that was one in the same for me.
/r/seduction29/10/12 03:12 PM
1

Broke and I have other books I need to buy first.
/r/seduction29/10/12 05:59 AM
2

I think some people find some of the spirituality business a bit weird but his take on gender dynamics is awesome. I'd like to read the rest of his stuff but I can't find any good pdf copies. If anyone has them, please pm me.
/r/seduction28/10/12 09:46 PM
1

I hate ranch but the rest sounds MONEY. I like your moves kid.
/r/seduction26/10/12 12:42 AM
1

I am exactly like you.
/r/seduction26/10/12 12:13 AM
1

Nooo. Read books, but realize that reading books about game and working on the skill in action are two different things. At the end of the day, game looks no differently than yourself, you just become the object of what you embrace.
/r/seduction11/10/12 09:20 AM
1

Doing god's work out here son.
/r/seduction11/10/12 08:42 AM
1

Remember that time you wanted to lift heavy and people told you to max lift above your thoughtful capacity? Get a spot and go as heavy as you can systematically. Same rule applies.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:16 AM
8

This guy wins the gold star for today gentlemen. This is right on. Live up to your intentions.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:10 AM
14

Ding ding ding
/r/seduction02/10/12 08:08 PM
5

In other words, our emotions are normally very predictable based on our attraction. If I'm attracted to you and you touch me, it will very likely spark that feeling - that desire. We can feel very neutral and move from there and then back, but it is normally consistent. Women, however, as you showed, can feel angry and attracted at the same time..intimidated and attracted..frustrated and attracted..very multi-faceted to our often singular conception.
/r/seduction24/08/12 06:24 PM
3

I think he meant fictional in the sense that you elaborated on his movements more specifically in order to draw the connection to seduction (and the jargon henceforth used). I think what every guy here really wants is for you to draw out a first-person experience for the female in the seduction process - i.e. they want to understand what is happening in the female's mind and body while all of this is happening. Seduction has a very limited view on this area, but if you can somehow isolate some o…
/r/seduction24/08/12 05:23 PM
2

Let me outline it: cocky, funny, INTELLIGENT.
/r/seduction21/08/12 10:35 PM
1

I mean...that's just the joy of neural plasticity and repetition. If anyone wants a more elaborated view sharing OP's findings, I would suggest researching Mark Manson.
/r/seduction28/07/12 03:52 PM
1

Because most dudes have this cognitive obsession with their own abilities, appearance, swag, whatever. I've been there. I won't lie though, when you "get there," there's something brilliant and exciting about being confident and looking into a beautiful woman's eyes and seeing that raw sexual tension and attraction build...dat feel.
/r/seduction17/07/12 02:41 AM
6

I can remember going out and talking to girls I wasn't even attracted to just because I love making women smile. It's fun just to open girls, make them laugh, and expect nothing. Too many guys expect perfection and some suave-ass idea of seduction when it's really about laughs and natural attraction.
/r/seduction16/07/12 05:17 PM
1

I love spaghetti!
/r/seduction15/07/12 09:58 PM
2

I fucking love it and wouldn't want to go a workout without it. I went a little apeshit and tweaked my wrist so I stepped away for a week or so but going back at it today for sure.
/r/seduction13/07/12 08:33 PM
12

I started lifting about 6 or 7 months ago along with changing to a much healthier diet and chicks flocked to it. I can't recommend it enough, but that's not why I do it - I love going to the gym and just spending an hour or so lifting and then hitting the bag for a while. Stress relief + health benefits + physical build = money.
/r/seduction13/07/12 07:30 PM
1

That ain't shit.
/r/seduction12/07/12 01:05 AM
1

Not a bad plan OP.
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:35 PM
3

Wouldn't be much silence..
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:33 PM
1

Why not? What's going to happen? You going to drop dead?
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:32 PM
1

I know a girl exactly like this...hollywood attitude dating mediocre guys.. EDIT: For those who want to know, there's a girl who I'm good friends with (or should be) and she chastised me for days about seeing other girls when we weren't together but were sort of "working on our relationship." She then decides to see one of my friends, never telling me (probably hiding it), until I found out about it. Epic fail..
/r/seduction11/07/12 10:30 PM
1

Seddit, thank you. Without this place I would never of had the confidence to ever do this. I beat the shit out of my fear, manned up, and got shit done. Thank you. To anyone experiencing AA, if I can do this, YOU CAN. The only fucking thing holding you back is yourself. You can't live your life in fear. This is why we're here.
/r/seduction08/07/12 05:07 PM
2

Sure, you can analyze social interactions all you'd like but you're still over-complicating game. Barring his social status, do you think a regular, plain-old Brad Pitt would need lines and techniques? No way. Same swag even without the fame would yield him the same results - the fame just makes it easier and more salient. And what do you do when lines and techniques don't work? Not every line nor technique is going to work perfectly, nor is it even qualified as being yourself. It's like letting…
/r/seduction06/07/12 01:40 AM
1

I think, in a sense, that analyzing techniques would not be any more helpful. Please, if you listen to anything in this subreddit brothers, realize that there is nothing special you need to do or say to attract women. Self-investment --> Identity/Boundaries --> Game --> Win
/r/seduction06/07/12 12:24 AM
19

I believe if women understood us better, they ought to be more supportive of what we do here. To some women, this place is just a big shithole of guys creepily trying to deceive girls to sleep with them. This, in some very misled and failed cases, is the truth. However, the objective of seddit is to self-transform. We, as men, should be focusing on how to change our needy and validation-seeking behaviors by focusing on ourselves - our self-transformative needs. The idea behind seddit, and seduct…
/r/seduction04/07/12 04:32 PM
2

This is a big sign for those guys with oneitis as well.
/r/seduction02/07/12 03:47 PM
7

Haven't learned shit from seddit, that's for sure..
/r/seduction24/06/12 04:33 PM
5

Give a quick tldr?
/r/seduction21/06/12 09:45 PM
11

Period stains...DHV
/r/seduction20/05/12 04:40 PM
8

This, ladies and gentlemen, is a skilled master in the art of the DENNIS system.
/r/seduction04/04/12 02:12 PM
1

Way too general if you ask me. I mean, don't get me wrong, it gives some valuable perspective but nothing extraordinary about life altering frames. I was blown away by how much more insightful and natural-oriented Ozzie was. He's just like...pick something you love and talk about it - no bullshit. No "bro, go up and neg twice, kino, dhv takeaway." I hear that crap so often and it's stupid. He preaches a strong physical game because as everyone should know, physical game is at least three times a…
/r/seduction03/04/12 02:27 PM
1

Skip Blueprint, go for Ozzie's Physical Game. 100x better.
/r/seduction02/04/12 09:49 PM
11

Take more walks big Red.
/r/seduction02/04/12 09:46 PM
3

Yes and push the wrong stuff that has nothing do with what you should actually be focusing on. It's like the difference between recommending Descartes or recommending Heidegger as a method for staving off old habits of dualism. I'm not sure if you'll understand that reference so I'll try to reword it if you don't...just the first thing that came to my mind.
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:47 PM
3

60 has some of the best relationship game I've ever read, plus tight club game. It's ALL money if you can read and game on the level that he's describing in that webinar and those e-books.
/r/seduction21/03/12 03:01 AM
3

60 Years is godly. After seeing most of what people recommend, you can tell he's not read enough.
/r/seduction21/03/12 03:00 AM
3

All of that is shite. There are three primary components that you need: Manson's Models, Ozzie's Physical Game, and the 60 Years of Challenge collection. If you want, check out Tim's RSD shit (Flawless Natural) which is good for club vibe, but overall game is best learned from the aforementioned three. There's nothing special you need to do or say - just things to incorporate into your identity that make you less needy and more self-validated.
/r/seduction21/03/12 02:59 AM
3

I suggest this version of JL Ackrill. I would also suggest using educated resources online (look up scholars and philosophers preferably) to supplement the reading. Additionally, you could just look on Stanford's philosophy dictionary for some decent insight.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:37 AM
8

This is what Aristotle would the "phronemos" or morally wise person. It takes training and experience to become the kind of person that can feel emotion and act according to the moral good. In other words, the phronemos simply does the right thing when that thing is salient to experience. How do you become more emotionally disciplined? Aristotle says practice and I'm strongly inclined to agree. Then again, I think Aristotle's idea of self-improvement is key to most humanistic philosophy.
/r/seduction19/03/12 09:05 PM
5

The basic distinction is that there are two directions for emotions as a male (as I see it): polarizing and supplicating. You can say whatever you want so long as you have the frame to do so. There's nothing special about being good with women outside of making your boundaries and expectations clear. When you naturally develop a strong frame through self-development, you void all the emotional bullshit and neediness that comes from getting validation from women or relationships. Your responses t…
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:59 PM
5

Nah, you don't need to get angry to state or hold your priorities. Meaning, sure stick up for yourself but do it in respect to your relationship and the principles you hold as a man. Be clear, be composed.
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:45 PM
3

It's good to be cognizant of it..like "(noticing proximity) Look at you" or whatever but it becomes overkill when you sweat the details and fail to act. This is why I always recommend Ozzie - execution over perfection. That's a really solid mentality but hard to change old habits at times.
/r/seduction12/03/12 02:46 PM
4

Fair enough.
/r/seduction12/03/12 04:56 AM
6

You sound like you d-bagged out bro. Should have smiled and joked that they are buying you a new beer or something - for fuck's sake, it's just a drink.
/r/seduction12/03/12 12:38 AM
3

Most women are equally scared of rejection.
/r/seduction12/03/12 12:36 AM
3

But proximity can also fuck you up as an AFC because then you get this complex thinking "Oh, is this proximity or should I open or is that now an IOI? (exaggeration)." Proximity is good if you're on the idea that opening is mostly logistics (as many of us are), but otherwise assuming attraction covers all the necessary groundwork.
/r/seduction12/03/12 12:34 AM
5

Not the kind of chick you want to sex on.
/r/seduction02/03/12 11:47 PM
55

My god people, I made it up. Doesn't matter; Pumped Twice, haha.
/r/seduction29/02/12 01:31 AM
29

DM;PT
/r/seduction28/02/12 09:59 PM
1

I think this is why a book like Endgame was actually pretty good.
/r/seduction23/02/12 05:23 PM
8

I'd be inclined to say that it's more or less formulated as thus: inner game --> outer game. If you don't have the right reality and background, you've got no congruence on the exterior. No principles, no values = no beliefs = no behaviors = no reality. I've always dug the way 60 put it: most (but not all obviously) of this game stuff is just mental masturbation. There is nothing special you need to say or do, minus putting forth the logistics and escalating appropriately. After that, it's mostl…
/r/seduction22/02/12 01:56 AM
1

And I'll just add as an addendum, sometimes non-verbal opening is even better. Sometimes I don't even say a word and open by holding out my hand or just going straight claw. It really doesn't matter if you put your balls where your brains are.
/r/seduction17/02/12 07:47 AM
6

and boots that make you look like a centaur.
/r/seduction17/02/12 07:43 AM
4

I usually go with an "I love you" or "Marry me" opener. It's all money if you have the reality. Most of the time I just approach and say I wanted to meet her, s'all good. I'm a confident fuck so it all works. The most important thing about opening is not that it doesn't matter but that it should be WELL-INTENTIONED, meaning GENUINE. Like "Hey, holy shit, look at that.." or "Fuck I can talk to you" or "I need a hug." Control the reality and you're in.
/r/seduction17/02/12 07:24 AM
2

Just for the sake of direct reply, how do you think The Game holds up to material like Manson's Models, Ozzie's Physical Game, and 60 Year's collection?
/r/seduction14/02/12 08:43 PM
1

I just answered it below
/r/seduction13/02/12 05:56 AM
2

I would be honest with her, just at the point at which I feel it's right to tell her. Do you feel you owe her something just because she asks? If you're serious with a girl, it's easy to answer honestly because it's commensurate with your intentions. You should aim to date high quality girls that respond to honesty. But there are also cases where you can still do what I said and give an honest answer later. Again I'm not saying play mind games, I'm saying keep your power.
/r/seduction13/02/12 05:55 AM
-2

If a girl asks me if I'm seeing other girls besides her, I look at her, say nothing, and then kiss her. Or you can play it off and change her mood that way. It's all gravy as long as you're non-reactive.
/r/seduction12/02/12 08:02 PM
1

It's so irrelevant to game that it literally makes no sense. Girls don't give a fuck how tall you are.
/r/seduction12/02/12 03:59 PM
1

Even so, Ozzie and Tim alone make RSD valuable. Add Brad to that equation and you've got a pretty sick group. He recruited very well but his material is outshined by all three, particularly the first two.
/r/seduction08/02/12 11:11 PM
3

Probably the only decently articulate youtube comment ever written.
/r/seduction08/02/12 11:07 PM
1

Where did Deida mention this? I mean, I knew it from elsewhere but not Deida specifically.
/r/seduction08/02/12 06:58 PM
2

Yes and no - I think everyone hits different, but equally important features of the experience. RSD can help you learn how to create a strong reality, and then Mark Manson comes along and you fill in some blanks that were left from RSD. Then you read 60 Years and you learn something new to incorporate into your overall framework but you still build on everything you've already got. Each guru teaches you something different about the field and it's up to you to see what fits your personal reality…
/r/seduction07/02/12 10:59 PM
3

It's not outdated - just misunderstood.
/r/seduction07/02/12 08:49 PM
6

Actually I spoke with Manson not too long ago and he said that the people he knows that have met Neil said he was a dick and that Mystery was actually a very cool guy.
/r/seduction07/02/12 06:06 PM
5

Mystery's AMA would be much more informative I feel.
/r/seduction07/02/12 06:04 PM
5

Tl;dr on Lyons' qualification
/r/seduction03/02/12 08:24 AM
1

You can talk about whatever the fuck you want so long as you convey a good vibe with it.
/r/seduction02/02/12 06:00 AM
0

Who cares how tall they are.
/r/seduction02/02/12 05:58 AM
2

You have to lose girls to get girls.
/r/seduction02/02/12 05:54 AM
1

Three words: confidence and physicality.
/r/seduction31/01/12 03:52 PM
1

Austin?
/r/seduction25/01/12 12:16 PM
1

Where at
/r/seduction25/01/12 03:54 AM
1

Haha I'm not berating you man and he's not even top 3 for me. He's not even a revolutionary - all I'm saying is that if you read between the lines in this game, even RSD's shit, you can piece together what you need for a game changing reality. Yes we know Robbins NLP, Tolle's perception, Hill's research..it's not different, just approaching a more specific niche. Also, what I shouldn't say is it's not as simple..meaning the transition is not just like "hey I'm gonna create a better reality today…
/r/seduction25/01/12 02:28 AM
1

I know but I think you're missing the point of RSD and self-improvement in general. They don't stand to teach you to make out with a bunch of drunk bar rats. It's the principle behind that fact - the invisible barriers and inevitable, yet senseless mental masturbation that leads you to have a weak, shitty reality. It's breaking down the walls of the unfulfilling reality you live now and seeing reality as a free, interpretable medium. It's about changing your attitude toward experience, not how t…
/r/seduction25/01/12 01:33 AM
2

Yeah no shit, but just because you get an SNL doesn't mean you can't develop that relationship further. In fact, it's the exact OPPOSITE. As long as you're getting physical and bridging the connection, you can take the relationship wherever you want. I think I'm overstating my point - just don't try to talk to the girl for hours in a noisy bar or club where you can't really focus on what's important.
/r/seduction24/01/12 10:50 PM
3

You realize that some people use Mystery for the social dynamics right? His goal in the MM is to try and give you the shortcut to this reality we like to call core confidence. He's trying to give you these tools to employ to change the nature of your core reality, hence these techniques that give you this crazy shit to say in order for you to EXPERIENCE the type of interactions it makes possible. Thus, the more you do it, the more natural it becomes and ideally you slip into this comfortable, co…
/r/seduction24/01/12 09:21 PM
3

Fuck worrying about conversation, get physical and learn as you go. Trying to seem interesting, witty, and cool is tryhard. A guy who can show his sexual desire up front is clear and decisive with his reality. The emotional connectivity of conversation comes with the sexual connection.
/r/seduction24/01/12 09:13 PM
2

I'm going to give you some valuable advice that I hope you never forget: sex is almost always the key to a woman's affection. In other words, to get the love, kindness, caring longevity you need to show a strong sexual prowess with a connection to match. Guys who are needy for ONLY affection almost always end up friendzoned because they TAKE TAKE TAKE. They never give that manly outpouring of exciting and stimulating sexual energy. They just need need need - they leave nothing for her senses, wh…
/r/seduction24/01/12 09:11 PM
3

I agree with these in part. You should own it, but she is trying to break rapport with you because she's attracted to you. She doesn't want to be hung out to dry because you're not giving her clear interest yet - so just look at her, smile, and move closer. All you need to do IS NOT BREAK THE TENSION WITH A JOKE. Just look at her, take her hand, and say "new adventure" and go have fun with it. Let her know that your reality is stronger by owning the situation NON-VERBALLY.
/r/seduction24/01/12 01:14 PM
4

"And a nigga with some change and I doubt that ever change." - Rick Ross
/r/seduction21/01/12 07:16 PM
1

If you mean it, sure.
/r/seduction21/01/12 07:00 PM
4

There's no lack of state for him - you're misunderstanding state. He didn't really snap into state to begin with - he just drove the natural sexual tension between them to the SNL. In other words, he let attraction do the work (which is fine) so he WAS attractive to her and WAS NOT unattractive. The most basic advice you can give anyone. State is more active than that. State is pushing all your social, physical, and seductive modes to the furthest you can go in a given conversation or frame. It'…
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:30 PM
9

He stumbled into sexual tension and then it beat him over the head into submission.
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:17 PM
2

The reason people tell you to get girls to talk about themselves is simple: it's natural qualification. The person doing the talking is the person who is qualifying while the other person is generally screening. This is why guys like 60 emphasize escalating all the non-verbal aspects of game - it minimizes and substitutes the "awkwardness" of verbal rejection for non-verbal behaviors that work to sustain attraction while still providing a clear and decisive intention (sexual interest). I'm a rea…
/r/seduction15/01/12 05:21 PM
2

Nailed it
/r/seduction13/01/12 01:23 AM
6

Pretty unnecessary it seems
/r/seduction12/01/12 10:54 PM
1

I'll mod this a little for the advanced: 3 second rule followed by non-verbal opener. The truth is, even verbally, if you open within that frame, you can just say whatever the fuck you want. The good thing about non-verbal opening is that much of the time you pump much less approval-seeking subcommunication into it. The question to ask yourself is this (this is what I use personally): "how can I have fun with this?" And the point of all this is to develop a reality where you don't give a fuck wh…
/r/seduction11/01/12 04:11 PM
6

I think the biggest thing this subreddit forgets is that sometimes less talk means more.
/r/seduction11/01/12 03:01 AM
5

I've used this very effectively.
/r/seduction11/01/12 02:56 AM
2

Fuck the police
/r/seduction05/01/12 05:02 AM
4

I've always taken the meaning of game as this: do what you want by knowing what to do. You learn to create a stronger reality for yourself by being aware of the behaviors that allow you to bring awesome people into your life by building self-confidence and ambition. Whether through routines or whatever, it was always about self-investment at bottom. We have just changed the way we approach it now that we've seen it more clearly. It forces you to face your situation and all the social hangups you…
/r/seduction03/01/12 05:23 AM
1

I think I love you
/r/seduction30/12/11 03:52 AM
3

We really do walk around with a lot of unexamined beliefs and treat them so much like facts that we're not even aware they exist. This is one of the biggest problems and even those who are experienced still deal with the aftermath of social conditioning. We fear the unknown in the same sense that we're afraid to fuck up meeting someone we don't know. Seddit and everything in this genre is self-liberation. It takes all these massive barriers in your life and works to make them positive motivation…
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:38 PM
2

Nobody sucks with women, they suck at expressing their natural masculinity as a result of being socially conditioned into always seeking external validation.
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:22 PM
3

That's why I keep coming back, because this whole self improvement thing is a journey and all of us "brothers" are in this together. This. I want to share the things I know and learn to grow further in the process. I view every single conversation in this sub as a chance to make someone's life more enjoyable, more happy, or maybe just more stable. I love helping and giving perspective because if I can help just one guy in here become better aligned with his desire to self-improve then I'm happy.…
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:20 PM
3

We need more women commenting around here..keep up the good work.
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:10 PM
3

HAHA I love this. YES. The point is not establishing sexual tension or attraction...that shit is natural. The point is not breaking that sexual tension by doing stupid shit.
/r/seduction20/12/11 09:32 PM
3

This is practically the preface to sixty year's escalating the vibe. If you want to go deeper on the subject, look up that handle.
/r/seduction19/12/11 07:53 AM
0

You could just say "Hey, I wanted to meet you"
/r/seduction19/12/11 01:38 AM
1

FAST physical escalation.
/r/seduction19/12/11 12:32 AM
4

This used to be a sticking point for me, but once I realized how fertile "social god mode" was, I'm not sure I ever went back..I never really cared anymore. Know this - it doesn't matter what you say, it matters WHY you say it. If you have invested lines, they could work really smoothly one and real shitty another because women have better social pickups on your intentions. Just be honest about why you're approaching, like "I liked X thing about you, I wanted to meet you." Preferably that X thin…
/r/seduction19/12/11 12:31 AM
1

I tend to think that just committing to something new and filling your life with projects will give you that kind of self-reliance. You DO want to give a fuck, you just want to make sure that you're more self-invested than external dependent. Fill your life and the rest will follow.
/r/seduction18/12/11 03:29 AM
3

All I heard was free lap dances.
/r/seduction15/12/11 07:11 PM
2

60 years of challenge is a person. You can buy or torrent his stuff as you choose, look it up.
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:10 AM
2

If you like this idea of self-esteem and momentum, check out 60 years.
/r/seduction14/12/11 07:28 PM
1

I think he's missed a bit of 60 because 60 does believe escalation can occur very quickly (within a minute I think). Fast escalation seems more on a subconscious level that seeks to draw out attraction instantly so that the intent of the interaction is more seductive than social. Read Manson for foundation and 60 for style.
/r/seduction13/12/11 09:56 PM
3

Talk about sex, drugs, and metal.
/r/seduction13/12/11 07:09 PM
2

Then start to a club to that effect.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:54 PM
1

Find new friends. Meet new people. Join clubs, work out, have passion and things will evolve. I didn't have the greatest friends when I was a freshman but I went out and became friends with people I liked more through various activities. I wish more of my good friends were better with women because some of it gets depressingly AFC at times.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:24 PM
1

The conversation tends to correct those issues.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:21 PM
1

It's direct but maybe not enough even so. Most of the time I'll just flat out tell the girl I wanted to meet her or whatever but some nights those girls can be rare. The point being there that it has to be genuine. Opening ain't shit but it does become complicated when there aren't women that you think you may vibe with physically AND mentally. Thus, you self-amuse.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:19 PM
1

It's not that you're sure that it will work for you - that denotes too much of a "technique" still. Inner game just means that you're radically outcome independent and you just talk about whatever because that's the spontaneous nature of your character. It's more about how you escalate than any specific procedure.
/r/seduction13/12/11 06:14 PM
2

There's a division there I think. Maybe you've noticed it and I've never brought it up here, but you've got guys like Manson and 60 that advocate mostly fast escalation mixed with emotional connectivity and self-investment and you've got guys like DDA and other traditionalists that use cocky/funny all the time. I tend to think there lies a balance somewhere.
/r/seduction12/12/11 04:39 AM
3

I will amend this and say: make statements. This generates questions on her end depending on her interest in you.
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:57 AM
4

I have to agree, your persistence won that battle. However, I give you serious props regardless. Do you normally go with cocky/funny and not intent seduction?
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:46 AM
52

Sup
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:42 AM
9

This seems slightly passive aggressive.
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:37 AM
1

I'm not sure how much shit he's put out but Ignition was good..same with Fearless Escalation. They might be part of the same collection, I'm not sure, but regardless, Ignition is excellent. I've heard mixed shit about 60 but I've always thought it was good. Any other opinions out there?
/r/seduction04/12/11 01:36 AM
1

I mean anything other than an IOI. Meant to be more clear, my bad.
/r/seduction03/12/11 11:23 PM
2

You could look at it that way and you could look at it a bit more broadly and understand that assuming attraction perpetuates the mindset that girls are rooting for you to be the one they are looking for. It isn't JUST sexual, it's mental as well. In order to build sexual tension, you need to build rapport simultaneously.
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:58 PM
1

Read 60 Years of Challenge, I think you could greatly benefit.
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:52 PM
2

I can't see how you'd mistake this for anything.
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:45 PM
2

The secret trade is a fucking gold mine.
/r/seduction27/11/11 04:52 PM
2

Pick up Mark Manson's Models..it's relatively new, out this year in fact, but vulnerability is his (and comsequently my) whole scheme for conversation. The quickest way to engage it fully is to ping emotionally on approach and then launch into investment based on reception. A lot of the older material is based on deception and sets where the social dynamics are correct but the process is so awkward. The point has now become that if you want to meet quality, you have to BE quality. That's how emo…
/r/seduction27/11/11 04:48 PM
2

Abundance doesn't have to be about the number you have in your life personally, just that the obvious reality that there are a million in the world.
/r/seduction25/11/11 08:59 PM
3

"If you think you can kiss her, chances are you could have 10 minutes ago" I'm heavy kino but always use experience to judge the situation. Don't be afraid to be bold, it is equally or more damaging to puss out altogether. In the end, it's all about the connection.
/r/seduction25/11/11 08:18 PM
10

Did a woman just jack our subreddit?? Is this real life?
/r/seduction20/11/11 09:43 PM
1

There's an established difference between sharing yourself through vulnerability and being the kind of dude that showers with attention and gifts. One is going to be successful, the other is going to wind up unhappy.
/r/seduction20/11/11 03:40 PM
-1

In principle, sure. But not in reality and according to social norms and standards. I see what you're saying though.
/r/seduction18/11/11 08:07 PM
-1

Attraction and mentality are different between men and women...it's not as simple as just everyone approaching everyone else.
/r/seduction18/11/11 07:31 PM
2

Spot on, seriously. Fucking awesome analogy.
/r/seduction17/11/11 09:37 PM
2

Everyone's a natural that learns to really open their heart and be truly vulnerable to life. That, gentlemen, is all you need to know. Tell her or show her. Show her. Just a lost fucking generation of men who just want a body to jerk off with. Most men genuinely want these girls but don't have extensive social circles where they exist. So they club and shit where the demographic is almost completely against it. I'm not saying you can't meet quality women there, but you'd likely be more successfu…
/r/seduction17/11/11 09:29 PM
4

Which is more thrilling to women: the money itself or the challenging pursuit of the man who has it?
/r/seduction17/11/11 02:36 AM
2

Money or the pursuit?
/r/seduction17/11/11 02:23 AM
7

Look, it seems cliche, but the truth is: if you want a quality woman, you need to invest in making yourself a quality man first. Work on YOU, and the rest will come because you won't be reaching so heavily for everyone's approval. Approval is neediness and neediness is not attractive. The reason someone like Mystery gets bitches is not because he's wildly attractive or predisposed to succeed, he just simply stopped giving a fuck and decided to stand out by changing his (and everyone's) perceptio…
/r/seduction16/11/11 05:46 AM
2

I have his stuff, just haven't read it yet actually. Since you recommended, I might just get to it that much quicker though.
/r/seduction15/11/11 08:36 PM
1

Any underestimated material for day game?
/r/seduction15/11/11 02:18 PM
2

Yeah attraction is definitely multi-faceted like that, but I get girls all the time that deflate it down to purely physical. I got standards bitch!
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:18 AM
11

I would have said "Which one?"
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:08 AM
4

I told my friend that today...I combine my 1-10 scale as physical attractiveness and personality. So a 10 could be a 6 on my scale if her personality is dog shit.
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:01 AM
2

Don't worry about steps so much..intro, build commonalities, tease, KINO, and seal. Steps are so much less important when you realize that game is not a series of events to success - it's polarizing the woman correctly. You don't have a necessary order, you just have to follow your own priorities (i.e. the correct ones for attraction and manhood) and have fun with it. I'm good at building comfort, escalating, and closing but my approach game still needs work because I haven't had as much natural…
/r/seduction13/11/11 08:49 PM
1

It means be yourself but learn better social dynamics to avoid passivity.
/r/seduction31/10/11 04:56 AM
1

Explain the last bit in a little more detail Tof.
/r/seduction27/10/11 07:50 PM
1

Best material for natural game?
/r/seduction27/10/11 07:49 PM
2

This is why openers generally don't fucking matter because this type of congruence is completely independent of outcome. As I type this, I myself am transitioning to a better phase of congruence. You can understand everything you need to do to avoid being AFC but you need to believe it. He's completely right that most dudes pander to results and their entire emotional state depends on IOIs. In a way, and feedback is appreciated, but opening isn't about skilled lines, it's about skilled congruenc…
/r/seduction17/10/11 03:37 PM
1

I agree, his sense of congruence is spot on. The way I think about congruence is this: it starts small and as you invest more of yourself into it, you begin to become that belief. You're going to struggle until you find things that work for you and then you'll build them into a worldview. That's basically how all of life already works.
/r/seduction16/10/11 06:40 PM
1

As Savoy says, opening is a skill, not a personality test. Like everything else, skills take time to develop. Many take months or years.
/r/seduction16/10/11 05:31 PM
1

How successful is that shit IRL? I might need to see some FR on this.
/r/seduction14/10/11 11:15 PM
2

Because I have a background in philosophy, I understand exactly what you're trying to say. Most of the history of philosophy is spent re-examining itself for errors that, in truth, were simply outdated and mislead. Take, for example, the idea of phenomenology and dualism. Merleau-Ponty rejected dualism because it didn't provide enough emphasis on the bodily portion of perception, only on the inherent 'I' identity that consciousness seems to embody. In a way, I wish PUA was like this. I wish peop…
/r/seduction14/10/11 11:07 PM
1

Can you expand on mindsets and attitudes in transitioning? My natural game is characterized by playfulness, confidence, and humor. Those are the three key elements I am best at and normally do much better at day game. I tend to self-evaluate that once I establish rapport, I am pretty much golden but need help to build a more successful bridge to naturally doing so. I always try to achieve an honest idea of what I'm doing right and wrong so that I can achieve success effortlessly at points. Is th…
/r/seduction09/10/11 03:58 PM
1

Apply abundance rule, carry on. I wouldn't expect much until it picks up.
/r/seduction08/10/11 08:37 PM
1

That's just true in general. There's no greater motivator than nothingness at the end of it all but that doesn't mean that just simply because we conquer our negative fears that we've tackled all the problems of approach. All the material in the world won't do shit for you if it's not written into your natural demeanor. I'll admit, I still have obscure doubts about my game but that's because I'm a perfectionist and I want it to be seamless. I know failure sets up for success but I like to do my …
/r/seduction01/10/11 06:00 PM
3

I'd like to see what the experts say about this comparative stance.
/r/seduction01/10/11 05:17 PM
3

Direct K opening or soft K opening?
/r/seduction30/09/11 08:18 AM
2

Yeah man, back off and make her wonder about you a bit. It will add some mystery and sharpen her interest if you seem less available so immediately.
/r/seduction30/09/11 08:16 AM
3

Read Aristotle in general. Everything he wrote is somewhat relevant to the human condition and congruence.
/r/seduction30/09/11 08:10 AM
1

I'm trying to work out the logic on this one because I think it's too hard to say that we shouldn't have principles. It's one thing to say that you shouldn't care about what happens when you game and to just have fun with it but another to say that you shouldn't value certain qualities or characteristics. I reject being the type of person who shows up late to things because I believe punctuality is important, and so I start to dislike my good friend after they consistently show up late for mutua…
/r/seduction30/09/11 07:39 AM
1

I'd say you shouldn't have waited two weeks to open because normally it just won't help with the attraction stage but either way, you could go indirect or direct as long as you just talk to her dude. Just walk up to her and game her about class or next time you see her at the bar, accuse her of looking at you like a piece of meat jokingly. Or, as many others may recommend, just walk up and get straight to the point. It's really open season but the hardest part that comes with experience is sizin…
/r/seduction23/09/11 02:01 AM
4

"Have you been to the doctor for a mammogram lately?"
/r/seduction06/09/11 12:07 AM
1

You're the man Ngo, thanks for the brief - I'll try it out.
/r/seduction24/08/11 01:10 AM
1

Honestly, I will ASAP because as you said, I'm a pretty good looking dude so I think I could dominate the attraction phase with the right lead. I guess I'll just have to go out and see what field experience tells me. Got any material on direct openers? I'd like to read more into it and then go with it. Oh and any personal anecdotes from your experience would be cool too. Experience trumps cold material any day.
/r/seduction23/08/11 01:34 PM
1

Honestly, I will ASAP because as you said, I'm a pretty good looking dude so I think I could dominate the attraction phase with the right lead. I guess I'll just have to go out and see what field experience tells me. Got any material on direct openers? I'd like to read more into it and then go with it.
/r/seduction23/08/11 01:32 PM
1

Any good material specifically on direct openers? This definitely got me interested.
/r/seduction23/08/11 02:51 AM
1

Nah I went to Hartwick in Oneonta but lived in the 607 my whole life. I've been out in Bing before and it's a wild time. My friends mostly graduated now though.
/r/seduction23/08/11 02:49 AM
1

Wait, Bing like Binghamton NY?
/r/seduction23/08/11 12:59 AM
1

Nah I'm more situational/neg oriented because direct always seemed to be frowned upon. What's the advantage of using direct openers?
/r/seduction23/08/11 12:30 AM
1

What's the follow up? I'm interested to hear this.
/r/seduction21/08/11 11:23 PM
1

I will actually, what kind of results have you seen? I've just always steered away from direct because I thought compliments are DLVs.
/r/seduction21/08/11 09:40 PM
1

I would never go direct, or at least not with anything like your example because it gives too much of a compliment. Then again, I almost always neg to joke.
/r/seduction21/08/11 09:26 PM
1

You hit the nail on the head with this one - "this shit becomes engrained in who you are"
/r/seduction21/08/11 05:01 PM
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