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Don't date any more but my memory of it is clear. ​ I don't particularly want to spend a first date at a nice eatery being filled up with steak and salad and wine and looking at a softly lit world with waiters around who would probably look harshly at anyone who got too loud so that eventually I feel warm and cozy and quiet and generally positive to everything including the man across from me and his penis. That's what suits his imperative and is mostly the sort of thing guys choose as a first d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:51 AM
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Most of the time if I'm dismissing a person's problems it is because they are vastly overstating their actual problem, completely ignoring all the things that have already been done to help them not have the problem, and fail to show ordinary human levels of tolerance of shit not going totally their way. If that happens enough for one sort of person and problem i start being inclined to dismiss the whole problem and everyone who brings it to me to ask for my assistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:46 PM
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Pretty much. Porn for the orgasms and gaming to replace the sense of having won.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 06:34 AM
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It is just nice to be working together with someone on getting something accomplished. I mean obviously it would be better to be a really high value women doing that with a really high value man, but average works too and the math of the situation is that most people are average. " Women know a hot guy when they see him, do they not want to bang that guy when they do? " I like chocolate bars and cream cakes and all manner of sweet things. I have an entire pinterest board full of recipes and pict…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:56 AM
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Because he wants to marry above his level in some way and decides that sexual adventurousness can be the dump stat to make that happen because well he can always whine and wheedle and nag and bully his way into getting anal from her... right? Then five years in he's no longer grateful for whatever it is he got instead of sexual adventurousness, he's come to feel the pretty face or mild gentle nature or family with connections or age five years younger than him she brought to him is just his due …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:20 AM
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I don't like being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:55 AM
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Those are low N count guys who really aren't so by choice. They like to maintain the idea of being high N count as this magical land of milk and honey where if they manage to get attractive and have options they can fuck a virgin who has a preference for chasteness and she'll be theirs forever... not eventually run off in tears when she learns the reality of her situation, then spend a couple of years being comforted by friends before dating again when she realizes that the fact she's been intim…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:55 AM
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as a woman who prefers low/zero n I run into this quite a lo Oh hell yes. The refusal to believe that low count women can find male promiscuity to be icky. "I is stud! I is alpha! I haz something speshul! My dick he plow many whore, virgins will kneel and suck!" Yeah whatever dude, put your used toothbrush back in your trousers because ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:15 PM
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I'd continue to be friends with him on facebook, my facebook is not a particularly intimate space. I wouldn't have been inviting him over for one on one shit anyway unless there was a really good practical reason... and I would probably continue to do so if the practical reasons were sufficient enough to be compelling motivation for self control on his part. ​ Nobody puts you in the friend zone. They tell you they do not want to fuck you then you decide not to take that seriously. That's the fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 02:07 PM
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You know what? There's guys who can adhere to current social norms that the local population hold around the making of sexual approaches AND still manage to get laid. That's a competitive advantage. It is one of the ways that dudes who are neurotypical, and dudes who are well grounded in the dominant culture sustain an advantage over autists and immigrants. Why should they give it up? Competition is part of male sexuality. What have you got against normal healthy male competitive sexuality that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 01:56 PM
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Guys are the same. The sensible acting guy with no tatts is not a certainty to be less messed up than the guy covered in tatts having a bit of a yell in the street after a few beers. People lock a lot of stuff away to deal with ten or twenty years down the track.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 05:09 AM
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That girl yelling about skinny bitches? That abortion girl? If they went home that night and thought "I must never drink more than two drinks in a night again" and followed through on it. they'd likely become exactly the sort of someone a guy like you would cheerfully wife up having no idea what lurks beneath. And guess what? A lot of folks do precisely that after the first time they drink to excess. Or they never drink to excess to start with because deep down they know they are full of trouble…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 12:54 AM
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I'm sure they sometimes did. Human behavior is pretty damn complex, and human genetics are pretty damn complex and it is normal there's a few people working against themselves in a pretty big way. I mean it isn't like there'd be one "kill the pack alpha" gene and that gene would only do one thing and would always do that thing without any concern for the details of the situation. There would be genes for risktaking and open-ness to change, there would be genes for various sorts of fearfulness,th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 03:22 PM
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> If you don't want your husband or your boyfriend to use you like an emotional tampon maybe you could you know, communicate like functioning adults. ​ "I am not your therapist" seems pretty clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 03:49 AM
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You know what? I got no freaking sympathy for being turned into a free therapist. When my mother left my father he tried to turn me into his therapist... keeping me up to all hours on access nights at age ten ranting and whining. Because y'know... he was too horny to whine to any of his girlfriends and too proud to whine to any of his very few male friends and too chickenshit ashamed of what a piece of shit he'd been to go hire an actual therapist. If a grownass male needs a therapist I'm going …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 03:16 AM
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Well, not ideal, but it is certainly better than ending up with a TRP trying to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 01:46 AM
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Heh, show me an adult human who isn't damaged. Seriously it is the norm to have a bunch of complexes and hangups. We're a bit underpowered for the shit we have to deal with, and there's a lot of kludges that keep us going. ​ To be blunt, I'm not real keen on tatts myself especially the ones that take up a lot of space. They seem so... final... and like they are the choice of someone who precludes the idea that people change their minds. I like people who stay open. Draw on yourself with a sharpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 04:00 PM
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Nothing to brag about if he had to give her a BMW.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 11:58 AM
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I don't like being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:22 AM
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Just like any other sort of sexual activity, never going to be exactly what you wanted and people gonna find ways to judge if they find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 06:21 AM
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Rape kits are really only marginally more intrusive than the medically advisable examination after a sexual assault is anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 02:52 PM
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> TRP is the one platform that gives low value men good advice ​ Wrong. Let's start with... TRP is not a platform . Pick a different word. ​ What TRP does is encourage people to pull together a lot of advice... some good some bad but mostly mediocre... that originates from other sources then where there's no real justification for some of that advice slops it all up with a bunch of pseudoscientific woo woo to justify it so that lazy ass idiots don't gotta understand much and so they can change t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 06:41 PM
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I write, I make art, I read nonfiction on various topics, I try to find cheaper solutions to problems it would be easy to throw money at instead, I tinker with the aesthetics of my home, I go places and try to soak up the atmosphere. I plan outings for my family. ​ And yes I do read fiction, watch movies and mess about on social media a bit. I bathe and maybe once every six months I drink a little. I see none of these as problematic activities or necessarily shallow activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 08:47 AM
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I've seen it be very stable where the WCM has worked himself up to be a self employed tradesman with a successful business. There's a difference between that guy who owns and runs the shop in town that makes and sells bookcases including custom bookcases and employs three people, and the guy who works in a factory spraying lacquer on cheap pine furniture. That difference isn't just income.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:30 AM
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There's a rather large number of men who start off low value and it is downhill all the way from there. We know this. There's a rather large number of women who seem to get exactly what they went when they want it their entire lives. We know these people in real life in some quantity. In fact if you look at people's actual recounting of their lives there's rather a lot of people whose experiences don't reflect that graph of what some TRP thought happens. ​ There is no doubt that there is a form …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:21 AM
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s just socks, you can walk past and ignore them. Not a big deal. Next. And that's why serious young men who want one woman all of their own don't get to fuck serious young women who want some level of career attainment. LOL. If ur fucking a guy in a FWB that means he's likely attractive/has options. It's not you who is going to be allowing him into a relationship, it will be you begging him for one when he ghosts you after fucking u twice. especially if u give him attitude. There are several FWB…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:23 AM
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" This is the complete opposite to a female's sexual strategy " ​ Nawwww. Women are choosing to do it therefore it is their strategy. What you're saying is you have this strategy you think women should use. ​ There's a bunch of reasons why some women screw around a whole lot before committing ​ First thing... before finally committing to have a kid you're going to want to be able to clearly see what you've got in a guy, and that means learning what relationships do to you and how they skew your …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:52 PM
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I'm sorry you've had such terrible time with men, but most women don't share the same opinion of you. Most women actually do come to this opinion. But on the other hand, most women are only trying to have jobs, not careers, so it isn't a huge deal, they've just got to put time and effort into learning how to in equal measure dodge the guy's attempts to take over, teach him in exactly what sort of initiatives are welcome for her and what aren't, and teach him to accept a firm "NO" with good grace…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:27 AM
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It most probably seemed to them like his best bet (sad but that doesn't mean it is untrue) because at that stage he'd already had 18+ years of refusing family attempts to get him to exercise, refusing to be outgoing, refusing to learn people skills and refusing to focus on making and growing money. Being a bit nicer to girls probably seemed like something he at least hadn't so far persistently refused to do. I mean just saying, people get different advice depending on what they seem capable of. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:54 AM
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"Oh you mean starting drama over pointless shit that don't matter - like leaving his dirty socks on the floor knowing that he will wash them when he runs out?" We're discussing relationships with men in the context of having them while you're really busy with other shit and have your own place to live in. Yeah leaving socks on my floor when I've got a career to get started is a massive fucking hassle and disrespect of me, and makes having an LTR at that point in life just not worth the hassle. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 08:21 PM
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Big dicks are common in porn for a variety of reasons and those reasons go beyond the fact that a lot of people find a large dick sexy. ​ I mean for starters... a lot of people find the forward phase of the stroke to be really exciting, especially during first penetration or during ejaculation, and with a big dick you can go in for a close up have the guy move slow and that part of the stroke is going to take longer. making the "good bit" last a bit longer is a significant thing. lot of people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:22 PM
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here's Ben Franklin offering some warnings to be careful https://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/bdorsey1/41docs/51-fra.html ​ I mean seriously western culture going way back is FULL of cautionary tales, warnings, etc. ​ One night with venus, a lifetime with mercury. you can look that one up if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:41 AM
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The lyrics of "The house of the rising sun" are a clear warning about the dangers of knocking up low value women or the dangers of being a low value woman, depending on who sings it. Can I ask a question... are you someone whose family on both sides has been a full participant in western culture for at least two generations? Are you someone who has paid at least a little attention to western culture? Because there's warnings everywhere, some of them in various forms of code and some of them expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 04:34 AM
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Slut is not a term that really means all that much. I mean virgin girls have been called sluts because they have refused sex with a man. Girls have been called sluts because they were too picky for the guy chasing them "oh I bet you'd have sex with that Chad down the road.... SLUT" It is a pejorative, you're not actually using it for accurate descriptive value you are using it to hurt. No you can't "tell" if someone is a slut or not. You can call her a slut... and if she makes you regret doing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:19 AM
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While I don't agree it is riskier (women still carry a huge physical risk from male partners) or even that it is riskier than in the past (life in general is less violent and safer and more controlled, this includes sex) I do agree that men's risks are approaching similar levels to women's risks now. Not really a problem, unless feeling that she is risking more than you was your fetish. ​ " People tell women they need to be "careful who they spread their legs with" but never tell men the same th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:06 AM
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And if you look at having sex with your guy as a chore The point is if she shows up after having done a bunch of her stuff her own way and says "sex now plz?" and has a quickie with him, that's not a chore. And it was what she kind of had planned. But it wasn't the evening he pushed and pushed for. If she spends the best part of three hours right at the end of her day (so, like, the bit of your day that balances you and winds you down for sleep and gets things accomplished at the last minute) al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:00 AM
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The guys with 4 inch dicks are scared the small dick movement will help guys with 3 inch dicks more than it helps them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:46 PM
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" it's almost as if they've saying the emotional act of being in a realtionship drains of energy they could use for other things " ​ Yes. Men are hard work. They make messes, they request validation, they insist on sex, they disrespect how you organise your spaces, they screw over your plans. ​ Let's imagine this scenario. A woman phones her boyfriend "hey I'm going to take the bus to my grandma's nursing home to visit her... might drop by your place after is there anything you want from the sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 01:33 PM
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There's only so many aspects of life you can fail at before becoming someone who will drag another person down. Failing to have a social circle in youth and not forming one in adulthood is a major failure. Playing videogames all weekend instead of doing something more beneficial ain't exactly a success either. Being found a wife then expected to stay with that wife forever isn't going to make these non issues. It is just delaying the consequences of these issues until you're handcuffed to someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 06:30 AM
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A great number of different people of different opinions are in control of the media. It isn't like a car, that only one person drives. It is more like... a huge rowdy chaotic dance floor, where groups stake out a little spot to dance together in the ways they like best and break out an amp and speaker with their own music to dance to. Yes it is a given that there will be feminists in the media, exercising control over their voices and a share of the control of the whole. This is a given. At tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 05:43 AM
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Ah. So what you are asking is "Why don't feminists put more effort into knowing what men want and then go meet those male needs?" ​ Fetch your own sandwich, boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:46 AM
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​ ​ " We know who is controlling the messaging that has led to the fact that I can say the words "fat" and "acceptance" all in a row like that and create a phrase that is comprehensible to other people, " ​ Who? Come out and say it and take responsibility for having said it. Don't be gutless. Who are you talking about? There are so many possibles. Liberals? Postmodernists? Communists? Your mother and your sister and that aunt who works at a feminist bookshop? Lesbians? Women in general? Big phar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:35 AM
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I don't believe the relationship would have been great. This is a thing guys often say... "but things were good, the relationship was great, she just stopped being interested in me sexually" when it turns out that every close observer outside the relationship knew pretty much what was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 03:20 AM
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No what I'm saying is if you as a man find 25 year olds to be vapid there's a fucking obvious solution to that shit. You were taking the "waaaa waaaa waaa women just as bad" line trying to say "oh hey 25 year old women are matches for 35 year old men because they are vapid" well fine let them date another vapid 25 year old and your wrinkly ass can date a wrinkly ass 35 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:55 AM
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What you mean is they find rockstars with carefully crafted public personas attractive from a distance where they can view the public persona not the man himself... so long as they don't have a chance to actually think about it and look carefully before fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:50 AM
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You should be scared. The traditional patriarchal "rich older man pretty younger woman" dealio cheats younger women so bad. First she holds off on sex and doesn't enjoy her adolescence. Then into sex with an older guy so she never knows the rock hard erection of a 22 year old man. Then pregnancy pregnancy pregnancy and the rich older guy probably has his attention stray to whores. Then she's got the choice of handing her babies over to nannies so she can pay attention to her husband again and ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:48 AM
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Well that makes perfect sense then... date other 35 year olds and you'll be fine on that count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:37 AM
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Most men are not particularly high value at any age. At 35 it has usually become so abundantly obvious how little value they are and will ever be that you don't even have the chance to try to play up their potential at that stage. And at 35, even if they are fit and personable and well funded, their dicks are still going to be getting less hard and they are less likely to be able to climax more than once in a session. Downhill all the way. You might get ten years of halfway decent sex from them …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:43 PM
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That's why a woman at 25 should meet a guy at 35. ​ Most 25 year old women find most 35 year old men to be wrinkly boring old farts. This is not a strategy that most can benefit from.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:29 PM
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Currently the best strategy for women is probably to sell a bunch of eggs while young and never marry at all. Concentrate on fucking interesting men and building a social circle. Any guy you marry is probably going to have a limp dick by fifty anyway, and die ten years before you do, it is a losing deal compared to spreading your eggs far and wide for others to raise and building up diverse sexual memories.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 04:18 PM
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The thing about them going on rampages is that nobody really wants to support breeding rights for anyone who will mass murder in a fit of pique over not getting exactly what they need because that's a sort of human tendency we'd really not like to see reproduced. If that can just die out? Great, wonderful, the world is better off for it. I mean it sucks that some kid got thrown off a balcony, for example... but if the system had been such that it gave the perp a wife and then kids there would ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:29 AM
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Not in the same sense food, water, shelter and healthcare are. It is more like how having some sort of employment status is a need. It sucks to be, for example,someone who has never held and probably will never hold gainful employment, and not have even the respect and status given to a successful Macdonalds worker. But does one really need a job? Probably not, if one gets food, shelter etc. You'll probably die younger if you're unemployed even if the other needs are taken care of. Low status is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 08:11 AM
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It doesn't take a genius to work out that there's sexual and romantic pitfalls that rockstars fall into time and again because even though many women are attracted to them, the crazier ones tend to be the ones most attracted and willing to work to be in the right place at the right time to have sex with a rockstar. You can probably find a street musician who was having a very happy and functional sex life with numerous normal to adventurous women, he met through performing most of them not insan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:57 PM
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well men usually feel that way after a woman used them for tons of resources, like dates, gifts etc No, you get it just as much from guys in the street who ask for your number and you refuse. You've blocked him from progressing to access to your vagina and now you have to face verbal abuse and often physically threatening behavior. ​ If you don't believe it based on what we can clearly see of men's behavior towards women, believe it based upon their behavior towards other men. I've seen men come…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 01:23 AM
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I don't know what is available online, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:02 PM
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Eh, you can sit there and argue this until the cows come home He can and he will! On a weekly basis it appears! https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bdgx57/is_it_ever_reasonable_to_feel_entitled_to_sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:44 PM
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Oh for fucks sake you posted a very similar post designed to prompt similar conversation just seven days ago, nobody is going to have much different of an opinion than they did back then. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/bdgx57/is_it_ever_reasonable_to_feel_entitled_to_sex/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:43 PM
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Yeah my father is... ugh. Just a profoundly selfish man. I'm the only one who has told him to shove it I'll do without his interference and I'll do without gifts or an inheritance. I'm also the only one who managed to have kids. I think the two are causally related. For each of my siblings if I ask myself "what would it have taken" it is always they would have had to defy Dad in some way to be ready to make the necessary decisions and do the necessary actions within the right timeframes. If I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 02:34 PM
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sort of like how "I want you to hand over your wallet" stays a socially unproblematic thought until it is expressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:59 PM
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You're a grownup, you can manage organising your own play dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 01:56 PM
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" being abused by a manipulative step mum who said no one will ever love me doesn't help. " ​ If you're carrying childhood trauma that has had a substantial effect on you and you feel significant anxiety or anger about and think maybe is keeping you from making progress, then some sort of talking therapy is usually a good idea. Often there's a lot of issues arising from these things that we lock away and then avoid anything that leads us to those issues and then when something leads us to these …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 08:52 AM
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I'm a low count woman. I've generally found women who have a lot of partners to be fascinating interesting and very social people who I'm happy to be around. High count men generally annoy me and make me want to avoid them. I guess that's because unlike high count men, high count women haven't in general been looking to convince me to touch their genitals that are only several fucks removed from having brushed up against half the city. ​ I think there's some women who conflate high partner count…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:59 AM
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Plenty of guys who aren't into fat chicks but who fuck and even marry fat chicks. One way of looking at it goes they are lying when they say that's not what they are into. Another way of looking at it goes that yes they really are into women with slim athletic builds and genuinely dislike fat rolls, but that's not the only relevant factor in their choices, and when looking at the reality of the situation and what their own attractiveness can get them they'd rather make weight the dump stat than …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 05:40 AM
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Didn’t we just have this thread? We've always just had this thread. Either it is one obsessed loser posting it over and over under different accounts in vain hope he gets different responses than the time before, or this community is full of arseholes who think that loudly saying the exact same thing someone else just said is a good idea because their voice is a magical force that they call forth from the point which the entire universe rotates around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:10 PM
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Well he seemed to see it that way too... my fault, my flaw was leaving instead of just enduring in the name of our vows and because of the years already invested. Everything else was tolerable to him and no big deal. so if I saw it that way... and he saw it that way... that my inability to tolerate this and subsequent departure was the great crime of the marriage... I mean just saying. And no I don't regret leaving. even though it was wrong. I'd do it all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:27 PM
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Within the context for the marriage that we had both sworn solemnly to, it absolutely was the worst infraction. Other than that my wrongs were kind of ordinary and mild. I didn't like his mother much and after one memorable visit where she insulted me about 30 times I wasn't willing to plan to see her more than once a week under ordinary circumstances nor did I want to spend more than three hours at a time around her and wouldlmake an excuse and leave early and alone by bus if necessary to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 04:10 AM
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That was my part in the marriage's failure. In a traditional marriage you're supposed to manage that bullshit without leaving, try to work with it, try to compensate for it, fix it, repair it, neutralise it, discourage it. You're supposed to do that FOREVER rather than leave. And you're supposed to seal the pain of the consequences of that within the marriage, take your lumps and losses, make your adjustments and still function as best as possible. That's part of what traditional marriage is, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:37 AM
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Men are not more individualist than women, they are just willing to surrender slightly different things to the collective. Showing sympathy is not socialist, withholding sympathy is not capitalist. Shit talking is not unique to any political perspective it happens everywhere. Communists seem to love elevating people as much as any other sort of person does they just have slightly different ideas of who should be elevated and what elevation should involve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders,_de…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:40 PM
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Who is going to lower or raise it, The Department of Creepiness Affairs? OMG I want a job there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:06 PM
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Pretty much I kicked him to the curb because he didn't care whether he performed as promised. Not performing could maybe have been dealt with, goals could have been reworked, we could have got on with life. Not caring was insurmountable. I discovered my limit, where self interest kicks in and love dies. I will not be the only one caring in a relationship. A lot of people say that husbands and wives should not have these limits, that once you're in you're stuck with it even if the other person be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 02:55 PM
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Oh he definitely seemed like he wanted it. I have had one person tell me I should have known because his parents were from Manchester. Council-house residents with unionized jobs, apparently the whole city has a cultural problem with the idea of self directed hard work. Seems odd that a city can be a red flag though. And his father seemed fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 02:20 PM
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And all the ones with the courage to come forward... are using it illegal or not and don't feel the need for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:40 AM
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You make things sound like you're a saint dating a demon. Like I said, he was just fine until we had a mortgage. ​ Everyone is a little bitter after a bad relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:25 AM
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some of us like to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:22 AM
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But like you said, you got a mortgage and now wanted kids... did he really want them? If he didn't then he should have spoken up a lot earlier, right from the very start I was adamant I wanted kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:22 AM
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If my father had arranged my marriage it would have been even more of a disaster, he would have left it as late as possible and then deliberately have chosen a man I could never feel attracted to, ever. He would have chosen a guy who actively revolted me, and if once married he'd discovered me being attracted he would have tried to spoil it. i'm not joking and I'm not talking about the typical "daughter brings home bad boy" scenario. I'm talking about if my father liked a public figure of some s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:04 AM
3

OK but not wonderful, like most people in other words. wish I hadn't been through that pain but also value the lessons, I'm a stronger person and more decisive because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:24 AM
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My thoughts are this post is low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:16 AM
5

Also, dont marry until your late 20's. sadly, this. It would be nice if people could rely upon marrying young, have their kids while at peak health and ability to sustain sleep deprivation, and then later enjoy having kids who are old enough to take care of themselves a bit while the parents are still young enough to use the freedom to accomplish stuff together. Turns out the price of this wonderful thing happening for some people is that for some other people those marriages are going to be mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:13 AM
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No the red flags are there. People just choose to ignore them. Not always. Some malfunction shows up only under loads.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:04 AM
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A lot of those expectations are just fucking obvious follow ons from the expectations they do mention. I mean a mortgage means you can't run your bank accounts down to zero at will without thinking what happens as a result, a dog means if your partner is working late to afford that mortgage you might have to not fall asleep without taking the dog out to wee first, owning your own home means you're going to have to have discussions about what to do about the leaking downpipe, kids mean you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 01:03 AM
15

I had a separation and divorce after 4 years of marriage... a year of dating before and then a year of cohabiting came before that. The relationship started to have cracks show only once the relationship becomes "load-bearing"...we married and then we took on a mortgage. Then it was like he regressed to childhood under pressure? He stopped being calm and rational and hard working and became whiny and shiftless. ​ I was left with a terrible decision to make... do I double down and have kids with …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 12:50 AM
1

​ ​ " And right now the organised MRM are basically veering towards 'child-centrism for everyone, grow the fuck up kids-yes you boys too'. ' ​ Well it is your movement not ours, and maybe that's one reason we thought you liked that stuff for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 05:14 PM
2

30+? you should by now be self supporting and seriously working towards something, not just living for the moment. it doesn't have to be a huge something but it should be long term and require a little discipline. Buy a house. Start a business. Retire at 55 and buy a yacht. raise a family. get that novel written to publishable standard. Open a specialist museum. IDK what, that's your choice, but by 30 you should have smelled mortality and know you now have to not only support yourself but have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:43 PM
3

Healthy single childless women over age 30 almost universally describe having been attacked and shamed by both men and women (in slightly different ways) over that choice, and told it is self indulgence and pleasure seeking and a failure to provide to society in general and their family in particular a form of tribute that is just expected as the thing you do if you're not a selfish cow. And there is simply no amount of conforming and being well behaved and productive that reduces those attacks …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 01:06 PM
1

Laws remain laws until they are repealed. They get repealed when politicians can be persuaded to make the effort to do so. If you want to have clauses included in a new law that limit the range of its effect to within certain criteria, you're going to have to lobby politicians while the law is in planning stages, deal with negotiations between the particular interests involved and come up with something that is possible all things considered. ​ The concept of "when do we know patriarchy has ende…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 11:10 AM
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Pretty much if you're a woman you can live your life single, working, making yourself a home, pursuing hobbies, having friends, doing a bit of volunteering here and there, saving up for a holiday once every couple of years, putting money aside for retirement, walking your dog and patting your cat, reading a book a week, going to church on sunday, thinking carefully before you vote, wearing sensible shoes, staying a perma-virgin... really the most stable and sexless sort of quiet life of decency …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 10:10 AM
2

Women especially have every reason to be suspicious of men as the initial default. No my life would not improve if I decide every guy who tells me I have nice eyes is just a sweet darling trying to make me feel good about myself and has no ulterior motive. My life would become very much worse very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 08:56 AM
2

Quite often when someone praises you it is an attempt to lock you into continuing that behavior. People are wise to be wary of flattery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 01:16 AM
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"You're really easy going" ​ Thankyou for letting me know you intend to forget every birthday of mine and put in less than half the work I do. Now go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 09:52 PM
6

Put the relationship officially on the same footing for you as to the one he wants to enjoy it as from his end. Tell him you've had a good long think about the wisdom of committing for a lifetime to a guy who is hung up over a previous love and not totally enthused with a future life together and decided that is a bad thing. You'd like to be FWB instead, and only meet occasionally just for sex when you particularly want it. He's free to chase others, you're free to chase others. Or he can call i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:55 AM
1

Women didn't do that to them. Society didn't do it. Feminism didn't do it. Some radical liberal secret agenda by the Jewish gay illuminati scientology aliens didn't do it. It was them not getting it. Pretty much. There's tonnes of messages they consistently chose not to hear or heard and decided to actively ignore. Society is actually pretty big on pushing sports and music on kids, schools call parents in and talk to them about finding appropriate extracurriculars if little Billy or Suzie doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:03 PM
1

Pretty much. The vast majority of people in the social scenes of beautiful girls are doing just fine and know how much space those social scenes should take up in their lives in order to be positive not negative parts of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:49 AM
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You're not objectively anything online unless you post proof... your credibility is totally a matter of other people's judgement of you. And I say you read exactly like a classic "I am too an alfafa! Let me tell you how alfafa... " style of trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:11 PM
1

You can be free of things that are known disease causers and still chocca block full of stuff that hasn't been discovered to cause disease yet. There's been new STIs added to the list in just the past few years. Back in the 80s a lot of folks received one hell of a surprise from HIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:08 PM
2

Tyrion Lannister crossed with Kevin Rudd more like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:15 AM
4

"Wrong. We still get to tell you if we want to commit to a slut or not." You can if you wish (all the TRPs seem to say they take this line but the stench of desperation around them makes me doubt it) but generally men don't. They just don't. All the sluttiest girls I've known seemed to end up marrying really really well in terms of things like partner income, partner social status, partner social competence. Whatever they lost through sex (if indeed they lost anything much at all) seemed to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:42 AM
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Most women would rather have a highly desirable man with a past than an undesirable man with no options. And most of those women have a fairly substantial past themselves. Women nowadays just don't hold off on sexual activity in the hopes of enlarging their pool of potential partner to those men who have double standards. Women nowadays tend to either support sexual moderation as a good thing in itself and expect it from their men in return, or are hopelessly whore-ish and don't care if their me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 03:47 AM
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" Men and women can never be held to the same standards regarding n-count.. nor should they be. " ​ I am low count and I hold men to the same standards I hold myself. How a manwhore who has stuck his dick in half the twats in the city and probably carries every strain of every microbe that can't be cured by antibiotics wants to be judged by me is not up to him, if he's trying to get in my pants or in the pants of one of the many low count women who have a similar opinion to mine then he's going …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:50 AM
4

This. You've got the right to leave. That doesn't mean you're entitled to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:33 AM
2

That just doesn’t make sense. It doesn't make sense to you in particular because nothing makes sense to you in particular when you don't want it to. That's what you in particular are like. You're one of the TRPers I feel saddest for, it must be very uncomfortable being you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 01:31 AM
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It’s merely feeling like you deserved something. In all those scenarios above, you feel like you deserved something. And sometimes rightfully so. Nah. I deserve a lot of things I don't get and so do a lot of other people deserve things they don't get. I mean let's imagine you're walking down the street and are stuck by lightning. You probably are an acceptable enough human being that you deserved a lightning free day, but alas you didn't get it. Knowing you deserve something is not by itself eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 12:52 AM
1

Well of course it often is about being attractive to men. And often enough too, it isn't. ​ I like nice things. I spent hours watching Gumtree to find the lamp I currently have on my desk. I don't think that lamp will get me laid. I just like looking at it and being around it. ​ When I'm sitting at my desk in bare feet I like to look down and see nice feet not calloused, cracked messes. When I raise my hand to my face I like to feel smooth skin devoid of blemish. When I see myself in a mirror I …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 10:07 PM
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I don't think it is reasonable to feel entitled to sex, however it is reasonable to feel that certain types of dynamics can only exist if sex is happening. I mean obviously, for example, if I'm dating and over the course of a few months he won;t have sex well that's a whole sort of bonding that won't occur and I'm going to get bored, feel unfulfilled and call the whole thing off. Similarly with defending or co-operating with or any one of a thousand other sorts of mutualistic behavior towards or…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 09:45 PM
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I don't think it has much to do with men being more sex deprived, I think it has to do with transpeople having managed to better claim the right to openly be themselves than at any stage in recent history, so we actually see more transwomen and more of them are along the lines of the female central tendencies in personality... ie before being trans was made safer a transperson who came out would need to be a very assertive possibly even aggressive person willing to be in disagreement with the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:40 PM
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Kick rocks. Or maybe I'd make him do one of his dealbreakers... I've always kind of wondered what it would be like to watch my partner suck off another dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 08:43 PM
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I'm with you on everyone being hypergamous. ​ Humans are very complex and everyone has flaws and strengths, you're going to need to have someone who is better than you in some way just to make up for the fact you're going to be better than them in other ways . If you're with someone who is not better than you at any of the skills, attributes, knowledge bases and social competencies a human can have then you have married down because they sure as fuck are gonna be worse than you at something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 07:12 AM
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There's a certain amount of hiding core aspects that has to do with self preservation. If you tell another person you barely know all your weaknesses and all your hopes and all your most important experiences there's a fair chance you'll get taken advantage of in some way. Dating exists as a delicate dance of disclosure and always should.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 02:11 AM
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If you look at the maths of it and at things that can reasonably well be defined and measured rather than what men say, generally being born into the upper classes has always been and still is the the most common factor in marrying well. I'm not going to go over all the implications of that, suffice it to say that the right accent, manners, physical presentation, integration into at least one UMC social scene, a few UMC friends, a presentable career, a couple of the correct hobbies and no lower …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:39 PM
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Both matter but somehow the hookup guy only knows one bit and the boyfriend only knows one bit. Because you don't get to know everything about a human being upfront, human beings are complex things and they are wary of each other, are intent on giving impressions to each other, and even when they are trying to be open and obvious have literally too much to them to show it all at once. I mean why is this any sort of surprise or cause for feeling of betrayal? Men are totally bloody well like this …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 08:25 PM
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Well yes of course it is a good thing... it just kind of makes the whole "wa wa wa why do women show hookups more about themselves" thing kind of ridiculous... if you don't even know a person's livelyhood... how they have decided to spend much of their waking hours... you know very little about them. Obviously we're all humans and we all warm up slowly to other humans and in the first few weeks of knowing someone chances are they won't show you much more than they really need to in order to do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 11:13 AM
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Most women I know who've been into hookups didn't even tell their hookups where they worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 10:56 AM
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I'll never understand people who apparently have so many friends of the opposite sex that staying away from them in a marriage is difficult. It isn't about quantity it is about quality. I mean you're not going to sodding well shun someone that you've been friends with since high school are almost like brother and sister with and for a decade you've shared lecture notes and given assistance with homework, you've helped each other move house, minded each others pets when one of you had to travel, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 01:28 AM
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I think relationships are just real hard because people are very complex things, and it is always going to take huge amounts of rejection in the searching phase and compromise and giving up stuff you want all through. When you add into that the fact that humans are maybe 50% of the time not telling the truth (not always lying though... sometimes they've just deluded themselves or not worked out something about themselves) then relationships are bound to be one of the struggle zones in life. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 12:39 AM
1

Dude, must suck to be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 12:26 AM
1

Well they aren't going to tell us any of it that will get in the way of business, that's for sure. Kind of reduces the usefulness of it. Anyway most people on OLD sites aren't really using it as their only source of dating prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 08:33 AM
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The ones that don't even live in modern western society I just don't know what to say to them... their society is their box of dice they need to learn how to roll the tumbling dice they've got access to. Or they need to change their society, and complaining to mainly western audiences ain't gonna change shit in India or Pakistan or where ever. The ones who do but were raised elsewhere, well chances are that lack of cultural knowledge is part of their failure. Them's the breaks, migration opens u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:58 PM
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At least half the guys from middle class or higher backgrounds within an average to somewhat above average but not incredibly smart IQ range (maybe about 95 to 120?) believed it 100% when modern schooling and parenting told them they were particularly gifted, wonderful and da bomb instead of just ordinary humans, and are deep down still convinced they ARE society to the exclusion of most others. Those who are extremely poor in verbal intelligence and have spent most of their time thinking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:05 PM
1

" I always find the race lookists to be the funniest. " I agree. I mean how the fuck did there get to be so many Asians if they weren't getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:27 PM
2

Neither. I'm old and have a bunch of baggage, I'm not even on the market. I don't expect people who don't know me to want a relationship with me and I don't expect everyone who does know me to want a relationship with me because of said baggage. I don't find it particularly flattering if someone wants sex with me, people fuck other people they know are crap all the time, it means nothing. I'm not insulted if someone is attracted to me either. I'm a gal BTW. ​ What I do find insulting is inept ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:55 AM
1

Not personal experience, but I've seen it happen to a couple of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 06:45 AM
2

If you lower your standards enough you'll get a guy who sticks round resentfully and with a whole lot of ambivalence because you're so much better than nothing but so much less than he really wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 12:12 AM
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MSM? ​ https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MSM ​ I'm going to assume you mean men who have sex with men. OK ya got me, I and many other women would lower our standards to almost rock bottom if it meant hot MMF threesomes with random bisexual Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 08:02 AM
1

Pretty much they always present themselves as wanting just one thing... but you know getting that one thing will lead onto them just wanting the next thing. If we issued them all a manic pixie dream girl who fucks them out of pity but pretends it is out of attraction they'd start whining about how she says she really likes him but never sticks round after sex, won't go out with him and won't move in with him... all he really wants now is for her to want a life with him how unfair is it that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:39 AM
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I'm probably a bad person to ask because I've never been one for casual sex... but it seems to me if ever i was to plan to have casual sex there would be three issues that needed addressing... his ability to provide pleasure, my safety during the sex and that the sex would actually turn out to be casual and I wouldn't have him on my doorstep in the morning stalking me or being an embarrassment to me if he saw me out with friends or found out where I worked. ​ Just looking at how fuckboi stacks u…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 05:10 AM
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There's nothing wrong with it if you're willing to think it through carefully (traditional ways of living serve many functions not just one) and take responsibility for the choice to do it and do it in a way that you stay out of everyone else's way in how you do it. ​ Where you can go wrong with it is if you don't think it through, take it up as the easy option, discover that in some ways it does not deliver the things a relationship or dating delivers and therefore in some ways you have to do m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:23 AM
1

Life and human society is not a smooth thing. We just grew up thinking it was smooth because when we were kids it seemed like the way things were was the way they had always been and that five years was eternity. Part of the move to an adult perspective is to see that change is more normal than stasis. In very strictly monogamous societies I strongly suspect a lot of the crime occurs within families who then cover it up desperately because in a monogamous society such things tend to horribly red…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:13 PM
1

Stop whining that the system is against you when the reality is that the system can work just as well for you as it does for others, but you've decided not to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:58 PM
1

Well have you reported me? They won't do jack unless you report people. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 05:26 PM
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They learn from actually being in relationships with men, It only takes one instance of ending up with your holidays at a different time to your spouse and coming home one day from work thinking "fabulous he'll have mowed the lawn, walked the dog, messed about with the car and be all hot and sweaty and muscled and still with energy to spare and oh dear god I hope I just walk in and he's gonna bend me over the back of the couch and fuck me" and instead discover he has climaxed three times to porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:52 PM
1

You're assumption is they are "worth" the first thing they are attracted to. Their assumption is that they are worth the better thing they are likely to get if they put a bit more time and effort in to the search. ​ Does it grate on you that women might look at you, find you attractive but don't offer to fuck you like you would for them? Well tough shit. A thousand appreciative eyes on you and your dick is still dry, them's the breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:33 PM
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This is the mathematical nature of the search for the best likely option, dismissing a bunch of possibles as not quite good enough based upon the probabilities of the search. Women are not men, we do not taste every morsel fate shoves at us. ​ ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 08:27 PM
1

In your worldview, it can be morally wrong to be born with low g and have no way to improve it? Stop fucking that strawman he'll give you splinters in your cunt. Sometimes it can be bad to be stupid. If someone runs you over as you cross the road because they are a stupid person who makes stupid choices, you're still dead and they are a bad person. And yes it is much much harder for a really stupid person to live a good life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:32 PM
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Plus, women who have genes of undesireable men can breed more undesirable men Just takes a bit longer to remove the genes if you're only targeting one gender, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 02:05 AM
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Incorrect. Women see plenty of men who satisfy their initial standards for attraction. Most of those just don't offer a suitable story, or the woman knows she can do better. ​ Just because you're attracted to it doesn't mean you'd fuck it. Men with options tend to end up taking this tack too, eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 12:55 AM
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Nature will take care if it, society doesn't have to. Evo psych, right? Those guys are there because for many generations we ran things so every guy got a gal no matter how milquetoast he was, we stopped taking those genes out the pool. Those guys won't breed so much now, the correction is in process. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 10:12 PM
1

Can't really say. I don't know all that much about sentencing in the USA. It seems very much on the high side to me for sure, for a rape with no significant physical injury. Can't really comment on him being found guilty, that was down to a jury who unlike me saw the evidence and saw the defendant's reactions in the dock. Anyway, a bunch of general observations without a lot of conclusions as to whether he really did it or what is fair under US law... ​ In the course of this story the prosecutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 09:54 PM
8

Yes men bloody well do act like that, they act exactly like that about the aspects of SMV that men care about, and it is the default that they act like that until failure knocks the shit out of them for half a decade or more. You ever known a spotty gangly skinnyfat 17 year old boy of say SMV 3 who is seriously into SMV 3 women? Remember an SMV 3 woman is usually 40 and a bit fat. Of course not. I mean he might try if she pretty much hikes up her skirt and begs him but it is not what is on his m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 09:20 PM
1

Morality isn't just about intent it is also about outcome. Sometimes it can be really BAD to be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:41 PM
1

"How do you justify even paying attention to how she interacts with men?" Is usually happening right in fucking front of me. Like how do I justify paying attention to what the sky looks like, oh that would because it is right fucking there and part of what I have to live around. "If you wouldn't want someone else to judge everything you do" Humans are judgy creatures them's the breaks. We don't stop judging like... ever. "But judging her in any way is unfair of you, because unless you are masoch…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:23 PM
2

Men on the whole don't care if they themselves are sexy or fun, so long as their women are. An impartial observer (such as say, a lesbian) would be excused for thinking men are garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 04:12 PM
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We want to be tall and we want our guys even taller. We want to be rich and we want our guys even richer. We want to be sexy and we want our guys even sexier. We want to be fun and we want our guys to be even more fun. ​ > For reference, I'm between 5'10-6'0 ​ That's one hell of a daily height fluctuation, maybe you should get the health of your connective tissue and joints checked. ​ > so this isn't some sour grapes short guy syndrome post or anything. ​ Of course not. But just in case get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 11:02 AM
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" I come in good faith " When someone feels they need to point that out I mistrust them immediately, like I mistrust any newspaper whose name is "The Truth" in any language. I mean it is like saying "awwww get in my car I promise not to drive you to a deserted location then stab you in the eye with an icepick I totally have not hidden under the driver's seat" ​ Anyway I'm going to leave this here, apparently there's people saying the whole area of research is currently a bit of a mess, the origi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 08:38 AM
1

Usually there's a high degree of certainty that how she behaves to get picked is nothing like who she really is and who she will be a month after she's publicly his girlfriend. Oh there she is eating a small side salad and talking to that muscley guy about how she loves the gym and does yoga... bitch please you are such a pick-me girl, we've seen you hot fries with gravy into your mouth and then losing the weight every few weeks by doing some sort of "juice fast" that is "cleansing" but really j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 08:22 AM
1

How it is now is OK enough that making major changes is unwarranted. ​ ​ ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 08:07 AM
2

I presume that the reasons that apply for monogamous married men and women also apply for single men too. I exercise to reduce the chances of disability and early death. I exercise so I can continue to go places and do things for longer. I seek to work through my various psychological complexes because damned if I'm going to let my upbringing control me like a tail wagging a dog. I seek to talk about my problems because I find other people helpful in understanding the most intractable of my prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 07:59 AM
1

Only a little bit of popular stuff and nothing much recently because I decided it was a poor use of my time. Life's too short to read more than a handful of books about this shit. I haven't crunched my way through anything really academic. I have read The Selfish Gene, Sperm Wars, The Territorial Imperative (read that one in 1982, lol, I've had evolutionary psych in my head longer than many of you RP boys have been alive... tell me oh OP of the impertinent attempt to portray us as not having giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 08:11 PM
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Almost like folks want the best for themselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:26 AM
1

For some women it can be health related but for me it is just straight out hormonal baldness, like dudes but the pattern is a bit different and it rarely goes to full baldness. I have the genes for it... from my father who went bald as a cue ball on top in his early twenties, My hair follicles are more sensitive to the same molecule in the same way that guys who go bald very early in life are sensitive. My hair has never been exactly thick, and withdraw the female hormones and boom, female patte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 08:37 PM
1

I'm about at the stage this lady is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e484272zqHc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:57 PM
1

Oddly enough, once I hit menopause I started to get female pattern baldness, which is like male pattern but rarely goes all the way to a totally bald patch. I'll probably end up as a little old lady with just a few wisps of grey hair. ​ TBQH I don't give a shit any more. The trick to living is either accept what you are given by fate or accept the accommodations you have to make to deal with what you were given. Baldness ain't so bad. Periods... ordinary healthy ones with no medical issues... ai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:35 AM
2

"The comment I made was that I have never even heard of a woman being called a coward. " There's a whole world of interactions between women directly and between women about other women that you are obviously not privy to. Rarely is the actual word "coward" used mostly more modern terms like "chickenshit" or "no guts no glory" are used.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:07 AM
1

Let me guess... that "variedly as possible" doesn't include a whole lot of women... if I rounded up a hundred random women off a city street you'd refuse the really fat ones and the unwashed homeless 75 year old with a skin condition and the butch lesbians and...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 10:51 PM
2

I've never called a woman a coward for her sartorial choices because I've never had a woman plead that I agree to in one fell swoop without looking at the details love her sartorial choices and assure her that everyone else will love them before she's even shown up in them. Seriously, if you're a woman you get up. you put on your big girl panties and show a little courage to face the world, you get dressed, it is inevitable your choices in getting dressed will push someone's limits somewhere bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 10:48 PM
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Oh well then, just hire someone to help you with that, that's the quickest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 10:04 PM
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If you'd like to have a wider choice of presentation options but there is no risk around clothes or makeup you feel is worth taking then you're a coward. Not every moment of every day is worktime. Got to a different city during your holiday time and throw on a bit of foundation when you go clubbing, get used to it, let it rumble round in your mind, get good at it. Then maybe give serious consideration to pushing another limit. Don't be a coward, pick some risks and take them. When you're a cowar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:47 PM
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Well I don't think makeup clothes etc are totally risk free in that regard for women either, a bad choice can get your picture passed around no matter what gender a person is. Let's start with something simple. No-one at all is going to shame you all over the world if you just start by putting a bit of carefully chosen and blended out concealer on your under-eye shadows and then following up with a lightly tinted moisturiser. If you want to wear makeup but are not doing that you totally are more…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 09:09 PM
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Don't ask permission, just make your own decisions, it is your body, Just like with women wearing makeup, some will be attracted to it and some won't. Some will approve, some won't. Some will disapprove heartily. It is your job to work out what you want to do to yourself and how you want to do it. There's pretty much nothing any of us women can do to ourselves appearance-wise that won't make some men happy and some men sad, this is the goddamn reality so take a deep breath and take the actions y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 03:24 PM
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For thousands of years one of the ways a woman could ruin her life and family was to fall for a gay dude. Millions and millions of women in those sort of relationships put in the same effort as other women but reaped fewer offspring, a lack of the same devotion other women receive due to male sexual bonding, and a deep loneliness from not being desired or being able to find and start a relationship with someone who desires them. Now some wanker on the internet is trying to argue there's somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 02:05 PM
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It isn't girly per se to use skincare products. It is girly to obsess about skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 01:23 PM
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" He has zero creepy vibe " ​ ahahahahahahaaaaaaaa no. He makes my skin crawl, even before he entered politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:29 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 08:24 PM
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This was back when fandom was face to face, people on the whole hid their cringe and fucked up, and did not make it the centrepiece of their fannish activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:15 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:04 PM
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Well that's probably because I live somewhere that alimony is very rare, temporary and for exceptional situations only (example, if there are profoundly disabled kids, or if the richer member of the couple appears to be using unreasonable delaying tactics on the property settlement) and not for ordinary divorces. So alimony doesn't figure in my thoughts at all. ​ Also, at age 35 when people are more "complete" than in their early twenties you can easily pick someone of similar wealth, industriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:39 PM
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I haven't seen much crash and burn. They are older and more considered both about getting into a long term thing and about, if absolutely necessary, getting out of it. This is the new pattern for those who choose not to have kids, they wait until they are a finished product and are choosing a finished product.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:14 PM
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Or that the beta boys aren't there waiting to towel them off and provide them with cash and prizes after they hit the wall. I know a lot of folks who decided never to have kids, and to be blunt most of them end up partnering up in their late thirties for reasons of mutual provisioning, and the male imperative to do this seems just as strong as the female imperative to do this. I mean maybe things are different for the top 20% of each gender maybe they've both got other ideas but in general avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:25 PM
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Feeeeeeeeeemales. Pfffft. How you sound. ​ Are you brown?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:22 AM
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I answered that earlier. ​ " Didn't want to date anyone from school, the prospect of that just seemed odd, like my dating would play out in front of a large audience of random people who I don't actually want to be around... not just my friends but also random friends of friends and onlookers and ugh" ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 12:20 AM
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I had no problem being attracted to guys my own age, generally found them more attractive than older dudes, and would have been quite willing to date the right one. In fact there were maybe a dozen guys at school who I would have given out indicators of interest to except for the fact I knew them through school rather than through out of school interests. I didn't want to date anyone I knew through school and all my out of school interests were not particularly appealing to teenage boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:45 PM
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I dated one older man. I was into a particular fandom and way back then fandom was mostly face to face. The fandom mostly involved guys who were 20+ so those were the guys I met outside of the school environment. Didn't want to date anyone from school, the prospect of that just seemed odd, like my dating would play out in front of a large audience of random people who I don't actually want to be around... not just my friends but also random friends of friends and onlookers and ugh, no, never wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 08:52 PM
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"But what about the second group?" ​ Whatever. They aren't particularly common, in general if someone can swing it to have a high quality partner of the sort they prefer, then they will. ​ I don't know if the men you are thinking of are selfish or not, you've really not described these guys well enough to decide whether they are selfish. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:48 PM
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" They're allowed to date older guys, they're allowed to have sugar daddies," ​ What a load of self serving self deceptive shit. I dated a twenty-four year old when i was sixteen, the experience was not a socially approved one at all. I was not regarded as empowered, I was regarded as a shitty little upstart with daddy issues trying to take shortcuts. When it inevitably fell apart (sixteen year olds aren't particularly good at choosing which twenty four year olds are good uns) there was very lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 04:06 PM
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Part of what I find odd about the discourse round this is that there's three moral infractions there... the drugging, the raping, the robbery. And a lot of guys seem to see the robbery as the most important thing (ok it is bad to rob and she's a thief...but in essence it is a crime against property and not even a really big one) and a lot of women seem to see the raping as the most important thing (well yeah rape is bad and she's a rapist but doesn't seem to me like she was raping all over the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:49 AM
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I'm not disgusted by men's emotions per se. But anyone's emotions can get annoying if the emotional person isn't attending to certain aspects of the social situation. ​ There's two groups we're talking about here, right? Guys you're in a relationship with and guys who are like the whiny guys who can't get laid and are whoring for sympathy anyplace they can. ​ In a relationship there's sympathy over adverse events then there's sympathy for being a recidivist fuckup, for having to suffer things ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 03:39 AM
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" In ky experience you can either tell that type of guy pretty fast but a lot of women ignore obvious signs based on physical attraction. " ​ Plenty of guys wandering round the place with a woman on their arm who every woman in his social circle knows is trouble and pain but also knows there would be just no telling him he's just going to have to find out. Just because you can tell doesn't mean that someone who he has an incentive to keep secrets from can tell. Deception is tailored to the targe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:24 AM
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" Well we could have an entire debate about that last paragraph but I'm not here for that right now. " Lol. Peterson fan eh? He's a dill and so are most of his lost boys. I tried to remain open about what i was willing to have as a future, but some things are just fuck no, oh fuck no. And a lot of the things that are "fuck no" aren't so much about status or about overall levels of resources as about the specific consequences of specific forms of them or the consequences of the means used to obta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 03:13 AM
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Women, myself included, are attracted somewhat on immediate things like a nice looking body, a gleaming smile, a witty comment etc, but that is quickly followed by a narrative fantasy about it is all might go if you follow up this attraction. That narrative fantasy can then ramp up or dull down the attraction. I mean seriously if you ask yourself "so how does it go if I fuck him and it goes well? How about if it goes bad?" and the answer is "well I go back to his place and his sheets will be unw…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 02:16 AM
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" And i think it's fair to say that in LTR/marriage, many men do uphold their end of the bargain to provide and take care of their wife and children. " ​ Nope. they don't do it well enough, in general. ​ If you're going to want me to devote serious time to appearance AND do all the housework AND childcare and you're going to want me to have two or more kids then you're going to have to pay for everything. EVERYTHING. And with no heroic frugality efforts on my part either. From the moment that ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:38 PM
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Yep. Things might be different if we were peasants whose lord provided enough personal farming land to actually support a large family, and we could put him to work. Just a matter of the occasional extra bit of this and that in the stew pot and an extra cup of grain in the porridge. Might be good to have another set of hands around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 03:06 AM
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You know, generally by the time a woman has got to the point with a man where they've agreed to have a baby together and actually conceived a baby as a result, there's been a whole bunch of trust building stuff happen between them. To have one of them come out at the point where the decision is not reversible and say "yeah you know how I seemed so so trusting... it turns out not so much" is of course going to change the dynamic. In part it is the wanting of verification... and in part it is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:52 AM
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Yup. He's a bastard he's not got a lot of options, one of those options is to try to "fix" things so he inherits. We're living in the Middle Ages so there's plagues and shit to help it along by thinning any herd, even having a dozen kids is not going to rule out him organising all my kids to be dead. My husband was an idiot for bring that child into the house, for even letting me know he exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 02:11 AM
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I think very few of the ones that actually go come back... but let's be realistic most of them don't actually go, they just hang around whining about how they have gone, yes really they aren't interested anymore, c'mon girls now look at me going... I'm really going... hey let me tell you why I've left... I just want to explain to you how you'll be sorry later that I'm gone etc etc etc. Being MGTOW is just a gimmick, something to let them feel less awkward as they give out care eliciting signals …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:27 PM
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Sometimes it would be jealousy that the girl doesn't like them. Sometimes it would be memories of having been rejected at that age. For the ones with daughters it might be the fear of their daughter developing sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 05:45 PM
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First one? Back in the days of livejournal it happened to one of my livejournal friends. He liked to bite and she discovered this when half naked in his bedroom in a house with deadlocked doors. She posted a pic of her upper body... given the damage I would not be surprised if he went on to kill someone. I wanted her to report it but she was ashamed of having co-operated to increase her chances of getting out of there alive. Also there have been a lot of lesser but similar incidents that friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 04:02 PM
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Not one for casual sex myself, and one of the many reasons is I never want to fake sexual response, which seems all too common in women who have sex with men they don't know well. You can imagine it can't you? I mean imagine you've gone home to some guy's place and he turns out that when out of public view he is rough and cruel and violent and a little psychotic. You're kind of in danger there... you could die in that bedroom and be wrapped up in a rug and thrown off a bridge. No-one there to he…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 01:58 PM
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Charity is as gynocentric as welfare. ​ You're not doing anything to make it otherwise so I guess suck on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:10 PM
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Why should I need to? Men pay the vast majority of taxes. The early days of the development of female birth control relied very heavily on charitable donations of both time and money. Margaret Sanger set up organisations that could be donated to and pretty much donated all her own time and some of her money to it, the Rockefellers made several large donations and the actual development of the Pill was funded by Katharine MacCormick. I mean just saying, it is a known path, it has worked before in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 05:05 AM
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Well for starters I think it is going to be pretty damn tempting to those young guys who have no trouble getting laid, whose erections you could use to club baby seals to death, whose libido is so high it makes study a bit difficult and who have future job prospects that promise very high earnings if they can just knuckle down and work. ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:51 AM
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Why should men have to? They don't have to? Nobody would be putting a gun at your head saying you have to. But a lot of you probably will. Remember, you as a man have not interacted personally yet with the business of selecting a hormonal birth control and then testing it out to see how well it does for you personally and whether the side effects are worth it. I as a woman have interacted with that dynamic. I think once you guys get started you'll love it. You'll be lapping up those pills like a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:35 AM
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Whether the risks are too much compared to the benefits is a decision for individual men and their doctors. This is the case for women when it comes to use of hormonal contraception with all its possible side effects, it should be the case for men too. What is a good choice for one man may not be for another. And ultimately if a guy doesn't like what it is doing, he can stop taking it. If decrease in T is a significant issue then there are tests for that, a man could be tested before and after s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 04:11 AM
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I think it is more that young women start off with an immense amount of fertility based value, due to the fact that women don't get to keep that their entire lives. That eventually fades away. ​ But you're right, there's a bunch of other issues involved and a 45 year old woman with a well paid and secure career is in a far better situation than one without such a thing, and yes men's fertility value also drops as they age and it is very rare that a normal woman in her most fertile years would ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:10 AM
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Severe side effects merely means nothing life threatening. It could still mean a decrease in muscle mass, confidence, etc etc things associated with masculinity. ​ Since apparently it replaces natural T as well as reduces natural T it could also just as easily mean an increase in any one of those things. I remember lengthy conversations with my mother about the two hormone replacement therapies she tried while menopausal. One was a natural form another was less so, they both feminised her but ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:45 AM
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Look, if the relationship is transactional, I'm not interested Followed by a big list of what you do and don't want out of a relationship. 'K. You do want a transactional relationship, you just don't want the ones that are on offer. That's fine, no deal then. I'm going to save up for a boat instead. That's an option. We're not here to argue you into participation if normal ordinary human assortive mating along the lines of "maybe we can work things out and do this deal where we put up with some …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:50 AM
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The mistakes that guy made was expecting women to be nice to him in an online place where they absolutely do not have to be ​ If he was wise he'd take this surprise response to his post as an opportunity to learn that a good deal of the neutral and positive responses he gets from women in real life are probably due to them being cautious and not wishing to cause him to become angry, not due to what he is saying actually being well received. He really needs to reflect on this. He doesn't trust wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:29 AM
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Well that's good so long as any changes reverse when the medication is stopped. If it replaces part of normal T production to some extent I'm guessing there's also some guys who will end up taking it for medical reasons other than just contraception. ​ Also while I can understand there's guys who will just not be up for potential decreased libido there's also guys who won't be too unhappy about that if it happens. Not every guy is possessed of less libido than he'd like to have, there's some who…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 01:08 AM
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These are all things we do, not who we are. How the fuck is the universe supposed to treat you as kind if you never do a kind thing? As strong if you never do a strong thing? As smart if all your decisions are shithead decisions? As sexy if you fuck like a cucumber that was left at the back of the fridge too long? As handsome if you never wash your face and are full of razor bumps? ​ I really am a great cook... enjoy your burnt toast. I'm terribly terribly faithful.... oooooh he's got a nice ars…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 12:41 AM
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A lot of men who want casual no-strings sex with attractive young women just pay for it. They hire a hotel room, they call a number, they fuck the girl, they pay her, they are back to their ordinary life doing their ordinary recreational activities without the need to learn a whole bunch of shit that isn't particularly relevant to their job or their interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 05:48 PM
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If you think the benefits of never trusting are worth forgoing the potential benefits that accrue from two intimates trusting each other, then fine, don't trust. There's people all over the world who don't trust the other gender or who trust only with great caution. It is a thing. You tend to get hurt a lot less in several very specific ways if you don't trust. That said, the potential benefits are huge. Two fully intimate human beings operating from a basis of trust and centering their efforts …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 04:57 PM
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A great deal of the events that propel people up or down are random. However, in general, if you are working in the average to low ranks of value it becomes impossible to take proper advantage of lucky breaks and impossible to weather unlucky breaks without falling lower if you've not been actively improving yourself and your situation. For example, the low income person who has got their budget under control and keeps $2000 in the bank that they are not going to readily spend is in a hugely sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 03:00 PM
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Nobody is passionate about being with a "big fat caring and busy mammy type of woman" other than a guy with serious issues. If you're human you've got serious issues. It is the human condition. If you want to have a human as a partner you are going to need to deal with someone else who has serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 12:15 PM
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If someone can't stomach being in a relationship they should end it especially if the relationship has no kids. Kinder on everyone. ​ But y'know... if safety and reliability is what he is then he's probably got to eventually face up to the fact that if he gets in a relationship that seems to work out, it is going to be because the person wanted safety and reliability. I mean... for those guys of you who can't see this because his story is too close to home imagine a 35 year old woman whose most …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 05:42 PM
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Mostly they don't give that shit to other men or to women they don't feel they've locked down yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 05:20 PM
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It isn't an uncommon dynamic. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 11:45 AM
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I pretty much agree with you. Men are hard work. They really are. Men are awkward, high maintenance, sulky creatures full of tantrums. OP says that laundry is a trifling no big deal. On some levels that's maybe true for a household of competent adults. ​ But you can betcha if you had moved in with him and both agreed that laundry was trifling, wasn't even to be countered as a chore and you'd both just make sure you had what you needed yourself but put through some of the other's things a bit whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 12:35 AM
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Yea, there is a level of testing, which I think I have passed. Did not let it be seen that I was overly bothered, just a bit dissinterested in subject. ​ Dude. DUDE! Stop with the hidden agenda you idiot. You've done with her EXACTLY what you did with us here when you came for specific advice but tried to slip it in as wanting a general comment on certain types of thing. You want a very specific thing but you've tried to slip it in by starting with vagueness, generalities and no expectations whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 11:49 PM
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Well then she should know what comes of that is thirsty dudes trying harder and harder to fuck her. Not a good thing. ​ Flirting however is not of itself an automatic bad thing though, it covers too much ground for that. And PPD debate probably shouldn't be a "give me advice about my very specific circumstances" place. I mean we really aren't here to be agony aunts, and asking very general questions when what one wants is specific advice is dodgy bullshit too. I know /r/asktrp is a crap place an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 11:24 PM
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Get your shit together and rent a whole apartment to yourself with your own utility bills, like a grownup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 03:21 PM
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Depends upon a whole heap of different things. I mean would any of you TRPs really dump your girlfriend who works as an office secretary in aged care because there's an 80 year old dementia patient who loves flirting and she co-operates in having the same light verbal flirting interaction with him each day every day when he wanders up to the front counter? That's not a red flag, that's simple kindness. ​ Every interaction needs to be taken in its own merits, paying attention to what the person w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 05:34 AM
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Most of the times I've changed my mind here I've changed it even further away from what the person I am arguing with wants me to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:08 PM
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They are dating men and men kinda suck at times. I mean seriously they take rejection badly, push hard for access to delicate bits of your body before they even know you well enough that you'd let them drive your car down the shops, lie a whole lot about what their value really is, and just in general a whole lot of them are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 06:34 PM
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About six months after starting to cohabit there should be a serious discussion about what the ongoing relationship is going to be and what the finances need to be long term to sustain that. Personally I don't feel I need marriage, but if there is to be no marriage I need to know because that alters how much I'm going to be investing in the household as opposed to my retirement, whether I'm willing to have my name on the lease and utilities, whether we need to have a difficult discussion about h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:20 AM
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And if you think parents are more than ten percent of the reason why women are hypergamic, you're sorely mistaken. You've clearly never experienced the standard middle class dating/engagement/wedding process. The whole thing is designed to put you in a situation where you either are thrown back on your parents for support for what you are doing OR you underperform in front of your peers AND workmates AND boss AND everyone you know. It is a crucible of societal judgement. The judgment of peers an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:45 AM
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That argument would be valid in the 1950s, nowadays women have infinitely more agency and self-determination, which makes it a silly and dishonest excuse. If you think pleasing one's parents is something that goes out of date, you are sorely mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:56 AM
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It is only prostitution if one goes for a rich guy one isn't attracted to. If one just avoids getting to know poor guys and is willing to suck it up and deal with celibacy if no attractive rich guys come one's way, that's not prostitution. ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 12:27 PM
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It isn't that one is incapable of loving a very poor man it is that if one wishes to please one's father, one takes care not to get to know very poor men well enough to love them. I'm still estranged from my father twenty years after having kids with a man whose employment was patchy. And get this... the estrangement exists despite my having been the only one of three kids who had children of their own. He would rather ignore his genetic line totally than deal with it not being middle class any …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 12:22 PM
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Looks don't matter all that much if you are socially adept and looking for an LTR and willing to put up with poor looks or lower social class in your partner. The hunt will be longer but you'll get what you need. Nobody is saying good looks aren't generally useful, just that you can live a normal life and have a family despite moderate ugliness. Looks matter if a man wants lots of casual sex with many good looking partners, is unwilling to pay for it, and is unwilling to go below his social clas…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 08:32 PM
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I think they've just worked out that to be effectively me-tooed you need to have been systematically predatory for years including at least a few instances which were illegal in nature (assault, deprivation of liberty, workplace discrimination etc) , and that if all you've done (like most men) is mess up on etiquette and make a faux pas here and there that you regret and learn from almost as soon as it happened, the rules have not changed for you at all. I think they've also had a bit of a think…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 02:30 PM
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Pretty much. Most women are on a budget for how much SAHMhood they can afford in their lives, even down to working out how may weeks rather than months they can take off work, and the issues you've raised (getting a decent job after a break is hard, nobody gives a shit about you when you are a SAHM it is like you've ceased existing in terms of societal influence and power, and guys can not be relied upon) are some of the main reasons why. ​ But things weren't much better before this current era.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 01:58 PM
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That shit's going to be expensive to buy and maintain, Yup. Stuff that interacts in complex ways with our clunky, lumbering clumsy bodies tends to have a price it can't be driven down below and stay safe and pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 04:34 AM
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If you want anything from me other than 50/50 as per this song you're going to have to pay for it in some way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCKpJkplwoU ​ ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 07:21 PM
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> And I just read that. I don't read something which would confirm it like "yeah the fact so many lonely men exist nowadays it's becaue our standards are high and we don't like shy men because they're insecure and we like more masculine men" ​ Most adult women in the age range for partnering up are in relationships. Most women work until they have kids and yet their relationships are still heavily skewed to traditional gender roles. It is a bit rough expecting them to be sucking their boyfriend'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 05:13 PM
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Well you sound like you're right down one end of the stay-at-home vs get-out-in-it range of behavior. That's not going to ever work out as well for finding a compatible partner as being somewhere around the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 09:32 AM
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Well... you might go to a free art exhibition? Or maybe hop on a bus or train and be at the beach for sunset or sunrise whichever is most impressive over that particular beach. Or maybe there's a river near you that has a weir that they open when the flow is heavy, so one day after rains you go to see the weir? Or you could be a member of a board game club? or a tabletop roleplaying group? Or you could go to the local show of the Dahlia society and see just how good those flowers get? Or the cac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 08:28 AM
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If he's dead-set on homecooked food and I'm working a job or if I get ill or become disabled, then he's going to have to take some responsibility for that too. You don't get to be frugal off my back and my back alone, I am not willing to be the sole crunch point for this lifestyle choice. Seriously, there's guys out there who won't even turn the oven on and put a casserole from the freezer in it... if you are one of those guys and yet refuse to buy food out of home, you are not a fit match for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 08:21 AM
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You can fake about an inch and a half through lifts. An inch and a half is in most circumstances a rather substantial amount. You can probably get another inch at least in terms of people's perception of you by having good posture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 06:41 PM
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Any time friendship is offered (anytime... anytime to anyone) the person to whom the offer is made should then consider carefully how much friendship is healthy/happy/right for them and how much is too much. This applies even if the very thought of the person offering friendship makes your genitals engorge. During friendships (any friendships... between anyone) it is wise to continuously be aware of how reciprocal the situation is and distance yourself if it all appears too intense or too one si…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 04:05 PM
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she has a space that looks sort of Art & Architecture Modern Living Most of those sort of spaces deliberately are designed to allow for others to enter and live in the space. They aren't what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 03:33 PM
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On the whole, if a woman has dropped out you are unlikely to have the fact drawn to your attention unless she admits you to her personal life in some way, you just can't trust day to day perceptions on this issue. I think if you were to formally count the women who are in high positions of power or influence, those who have dropped out of the SMP/RMP would be represented amongst them at a higher rates than amongst the general population. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 03:27 PM
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If you're curating it for yourself and curating it hard, only for yourself, then chances are it isn't going to be the sort of place a man feels comfy in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 03:14 PM
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Well of course it isn't exactly 1:1. But if you're reading this sitting in front of your desk on a height adjustable ergonomically designed chair in a democratic first world nation, then near as dammit unless you've decided to live in a mining or fishing town. ​ What it comes down to is this, it feels like there are more men because when women drop out of the SMP they drop out good and proper. They develop lives that are of immense value to them but would be thoroughly upturned and devalued by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/19 01:23 PM
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If you're having to game an ordinary man of medium value (4 to 7,)n the first few months of being with him there's probably not much point in keeping him around, he's just not that attracted and he's not worth the cost of doing that for a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 11:11 PM
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but how else do you expect a guy to feel about losing his junk? Like he wants to go talk about it with someone privately. Not like he wants to drag reddit into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:57 PM
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I don't want to change your perspective. I don't care about your perspective. I think your perspective is trite, irrelevant and mainly consists of exaggerating the pain caused by rather ordinary parts of the human condition in hopes of eliciting care responses. I mean farreal, everyone must deal with the problem that what is there for them in the RMP and SMP is probably not going to be exactly what they wanted. I care about the whining omg the annoying whining. Stop whining, start dealing with y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:46 PM
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You're going to see any conversation as unproductive if it doesn't validate your point of view. Shrug.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:36 PM
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> Just because some whine about it doesn’t refute the point. ​ You don't have a point that we give a shit about. ​ >Address the entire block of what I’ve said and stop nitpicking ​ I... and everyone else... are not obliged to see the things anyone else says in the context they wish them to be seen. If we hear someone whining we are totally free to look at the entire situation and quickly come to the conclusion there is no significant underlying problem worth discussing, the whining is the proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 06:21 PM
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Gosh, I know when I've got major lifechanging medical decisions to make I seek counselling from the random average idiots on reddit, not from the counselling service at the hospital involved which isn't a bunch of ordinary schmucks playing out their own personal issues. /s ​ Anyway, he's got the right to refuse treatments. whatever other people think of that. And they've got the right to be really fucking angry at him and get angrier and angrier as he gets sicker and sicker. ​ One thing I do kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:42 PM
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“Single mothers are not my thing because xyz” is not whining. Oh please, we all know that conversations in which it is whining run 99 to 1 against conversations where it is just part of a general discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 05:34 PM
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"I could say I don’t want to date single mothers and be called insecure by single mothers. " ​ And they'd probably be correct. If you weren't deeply insecure about making that choice the chances are you'd never even be having a conversation that leads to you saying that. ​ " I could say I find single mothers attractive and be called insecure by dudes who think I’m a cuck. " ​ Nah they wouldn't call you insecure, they'd just call you a loser. ​ " It’s just people wanting to push you into a direct…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 08:54 AM
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" Very often on this sub and others I see insecurity thrown around so often for people’s replies to posts. " ​ A lot of what people do is due to insecurity. I mean feel free to argue against any one particular use of it as an argument, but if you're arguing that it isn't a huge reason for the things you and everyone else does in life then hahahahahahaha no. ​ " What I don’t understand is people trying to guilt(the very thing they claim to be against) men into doing something they clearly don’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:56 PM
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In the early years more men look like they would be quality. Let's say 80% look like they've got some real potential at age 18. Then gradually, most of these men fall, falter and make decisions that mean they will not catch the "tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune" Also most of those 80% steadily get married. And seriously that's not a huge problem because it prunes down the competition as well as what you are competing for. What really makes the decision a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 11:45 PM
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Probably a meth-head. We exit the situation as promptly as possible then call the police about the dude who is trying to provoke a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 09:30 AM
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Yes but why is the OP defending Trey when Trey is obviously guilty of the same thing she is... providing pleasure to someone who has spectacularly low levels of respect for him? I mean surely the OP has to see the similarities between them and that his friend Trey is just getting given back a little of what he gives? Is the OP just idk... stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 11:11 PM
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You can criticize them, but why should anyone take you seriously? OP seems to take it seriously enough to bother attempting to refute it, why I do not know I mean surely if Trey has a problem with being shit talked "then stop fucking that person" applies equally well to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:43 PM
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Why do you feel the need to defend Trey? Trey can just stop fucking her if her low opinion of him and her shit talking is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:02 PM
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> Yes it can be controlled, but in when it comes down to it, it is much more natural for you to scream than it is to not scream. ​ Huh? Both responses are natural. To communicate or not communicate, there's natural reasons for both and there's a fairly wide variance in the tendencies of individuals. ​ I think this post of yours is just an excuse to create and live for a moment a persona online that probably does not reflect who you are in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 05:49 PM
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Yup. We go to the gym to work out, it takes a bit of getting our shit together and it ain't in any sense "free" not in time, energy, motivating ourselves, or financial cost. Respect that. The snack bar after a session is good because if you're interested in the approach you are now free to chat or organise to go for coffee.... and if you aren't interested you've not got a whole gym session ahead, being distracted that someone is sneaking peeks and stewing over how to fuck you anyway despite the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:34 AM
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I'm just pointing out, rather indirectly but still pointing out, that placing some sort of expectation on a woman to keep investing in a trivial relationship thereby turning it into a significant relationship when all along his laugh makes her want to kick puppies... well there's problems with that. Someone shouldn't have to spend the next thirty years with some charmless nerk who really has nothing in particular to offer but a whole bunch of neuroses and irritating habits, just because he manag…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:37 PM
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A person may not even have laughed heartily within the first two dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 10:39 PM
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Medium issue would be less than yours examples but more serious than sometimes his laugh is annoying. Is there any point at which you feel it is OK to reject someone for having an annoying laugh? I mean surely it is grounds to not accept a second date, for example, if his laugh is annoying and you really can't imagine a future in which you start to think of it as neutral and unobtrusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 04:55 AM
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> Most people put up with a little nonsense in life. ​ Yeah. Most people do. They put up with a bit of nonsense and never ask the internet for help. ​ People generally come to ask internet strangers for advice when the nonsense has become frankly ridiculous, they instinctively know they should leave or at least make themselves able to leave, and they want moral support. ​ A lot of the time the people asking for advice are young inexperienced people putting up with nonsense that only promises mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 04:51 AM
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