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I’m not sure being this hostile to someone who’s clearly trying to come to grips with their societal indoctrination to hate men is helpful. By all means, point it out—but I mean, here’s someone who’s clearly ready to have their mind changed, has realized how hateful the left can be towards men and how she’s internalized that, and the top comment is an insult and suggestion to leave?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 04:00 PM
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Indeed. Do we know what happened?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/24 02:05 PM
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We even have studied the practice, and found significant changes to the way 2-year-old males react to pain after undergoing circumcision (circumcised children react more strongly to pain). We also see undesirable personality differences in adult men: https://www.cell.com/heliyon/pdf/S2405-8440(20)32409-9.pdf Meanwhile, ANY degree of cutting on female infants genitalia is (rightly) outlawed, even ceremonial tiny nicks meant to avoid any damage. The empathy gap for men is sometimes unbelievable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/24 06:35 PM
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What gives you the impression there aren’t a lot of fucked up women out there? Should we be understanding of men who paint women in general as someone to be wary of? We don’t allow for “well, yeah, of course they’re prejudiced against X because of the way X behaves” for any other group, even when it can be justified by statistics, do we? If I say “well of course white people are cautious of black people”, do you go “yeah, well there’s a lot wrong with the way black people behave, a lot of white …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/24 12:37 AM
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Dr. K is probably the best example on YouTube, great point! I don’t really think of him as “on the left” but I think you’re right that he is. (That said, he says… let’s call it “problematic” things, feels the need to point out how much worse women have it frequently, etc.) But you can tell he’s actively trying hard not to be in anyone’s camp, but rather in everyone’s camp, and he produces a lot of male-focused content. It does kind of speak to the problem that the only examples you have are ther…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 05:23 PM
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I’m glad there’s someone out there at least. Best of luck dude. Dunno what the sub rules are but I’d appreciate a link.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 01:53 AM
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Nope. If that were the problem, YouTube would bring you the leftists who are pro-male. Problem is, the left has defined itself as “anti-oppressor” and “male” as necessarily “oppressor” so the left doesn’t have any pro-male content. None at all. It’s ludicrous, you should be able to point at something, but it just doesn’t exist. (Someone please prove me wrong. One leftist talking at any kind of length about anti-male discrimination without also blaming it on men. Anyone who won’t tolerate men bei…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 01:17 AM
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Yep. But that’s just because there are basically no people on the left who openly intend to help men, because when people try to do that—Erin Pizzey comes to mind—they are ejected from the left (and, in Erin’s case, given death threats). Which sounds like a crazy, utterly lunatic thing to say—yet if there were anyone on YouTube making male-positive leftist content, you can be sure the algorithm would deliver it to you. It just doesn’t exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/24 01:10 AM
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“Let’s help men, because otherwise they’ll be violent, won’t someone please think of the women!?” is still weirdly sexist and awful, but I guess it’s a step in the right direction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:55 PM
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Creating shame for behaviors supposedly associated with your gender seems to be the only real function of the term “toxic masculinity” outside of the long lost original meaning of the term (which was academic and generally applied to truly toxic versions of masculinity, like those found in some male prisoners). The same people who will use that term find “toxic femininity” to be a problematic term, because, well, basically everyone agrees that everything is men’s responsibility and fault—it’s th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/24 01:32 PM
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Yeah, the new definition is so poorly worded that people who read it can interpret it either way. The FBI, which controls the definition we’re talking about, says it includes male victims who were made to penetrate. However, the UCR program has local law enforcement decide on the category of the crime, and the FBI’s guidance that includes examples does not include any examples of men who were made to penetrate. My guess would be that most local law enforcement will read the definition in a way t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 01:51 PM
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The Duluth “men are to blame for all DV” model is truly disgusting sexism in the guise of legitimate academic pursuit. The fucked up part is the hundreds of places that eagerly snapped up the deeply sexist and victim-blaming model.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 06:22 PM
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Appears to be from this (no full text): https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/just-men-critical-view-violence-women-coordinating-community
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/24 05:34 PM
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I don’t think it’s actually terribly complex. “Male” is quite literally used as an insult in many, many liberal spaces, while any criticism of women in those spaces is taken as evidence that the person doing the criticism is a bad person. Indeed, being upset at “male” being used as an insult will also get you attacked as bad. I’d personally estimate this to start to become common in the US around 1993, with “political correctness”, with a crazy ramp up (primarily in Universities) around 2014. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 09:20 PM
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Note that not a single comment in that thread points out the obvious anti-male discrimination; only comments about how much violence people would be threatened by.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/24 09:46 PM
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Oh look at that: a willful misinterpretation of criticism of female behavior as “all women behave this way”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 11:15 PM
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Your brain has fallen out, my guy, and I was demonstrating that to you. But you’ve somehow managed to simultaneously understand my point and think I’m not making one, while ascribing what I said to you to the entire community. Since you can’t seem to engage with the point done that way, let me spell out what should already be obvious to you: Being a comedy doesn’t give a pass for awful social messages when they’re utterly pervasive in the work. If I made a really light-hearted comedy where every…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 07:19 PM
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No no no, it’s COMEDY. You remember how a comedy doesn’t have an underlying message, and can’t be taken seriously, right? Why are you engaging in behavior you called laughable two messages ago?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 10:37 PM
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YetAgain67 is a moron. /s Now, if you have any problem with me calling you a moron, remember, IT’S A JOOOOOOKE, so you taking that seriously would be laughable and show what a moron you are. I mean, everything that you’ve ever said was stupid, and everyone on this thread is dumber for having encountered you. But I’m joooooking! lol! It’s so funny how moronic you are, based on your immutable characteristics. You’re black / Jewish / insert group, right? Well you must be fundamentally evil and dumb…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 07:26 PM
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I’m sorry, using highly popular movies to determine whether misandry is gaining or losing support is like a woke scold who problemetizes everything, when even you acknowledge the filmmakers go out of their way to shit on men, male interests, etc? What?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 10:02 PM
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I don’t think so. Misandry is on the rise; we just had the Barbie movie where every single male character had zero redeeming qualities: every one was dumb, evil, totally incompetent, wanting to subjugate women (with the only exception being Allen demonstrating that he can beat people up, and who didn’t really do anything else). And that was a huge “feminist” hit. If anything, we’re getting to the point where open misandry is celebrated as a good thing, where the only thing wrong with sexism is w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 07:22 PM
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We are seeing men in horrible situations with little to no resources because the government doesn’t tend to prioritize poor people, mental illness, veterans, disabled ppl, etc. This goes for all genders. However, men get the short end of the stick because restrictive gender roles Totally incorrect. The government does prioritize those things—if they’re female. Take a look at DV shelter numbers. Take a look at college graduation rates, then how many male-specific scholarships there are. Hell, tak…
/r/MensRights06/08/23 04:36 PM
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You’re right, women don’t, usually, directly murder men. They simply use social capital to ensure that homeless, mentally ill, or otherwise “defective” men are considered “not worth helping” (or are actually privileged!), leading to their indirect death. And then when such injustice is pointed out, you respond with “oh but men are the ones murdering”, and dismiss the obvious, direct and overt hatred, as if two wrongs make a right.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 04:26 PM
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Feminist theory has an absolute stranglehold on academia, and the corporate world, and it’s systematically shitting on men. If you can’t see that, I’d love for you to post the “women’s rights” forum that you visit that doesn’t regularly shit on men. I’ve been looking for one for 20 years. The academic achievement gap now looks like it did in 1970–except reversed. Show me a single gender studies department anywhere clamoring for male-only scholarships. You’re right that people shouldn’t simply bl…
/r/MensRights06/08/23 04:14 PM
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They don’t have to lurk; they use Automod. Once upon a time, this was against Reddit rules (banning people for what they did in a different subreddit) but Reddit always adjusts its rules for the benefit of people politically aligned with the admins, and anti-male cults like those you find here LOVE censorship and ideological purity. Indeed, it seems the only groups of people allowed to be targeted for harassment/hate speech are white people, men, and straight people… the rules used to say as muc…
/r/MensRights25/04/23 02:46 PM
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Tbh you could skip that word and still understand 90% of what was being said. Kinda seems like you’re being deliberately obtuse.
/r/MensRights27/03/23 02:28 PM
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Nothing sudden about it. The academic feminist world has been strictly anti-male for at least 50 years. It’s bled out into the mainstream culture as a narrative of male oppression became the dominant one. It became clear to me about 20 years ago when I started fact-checking dubious claims, and found that behind the sheen of “Science(tm)”, feminist academia engenders and promotes some of the nastiest of things they claim the society does only to women: erasing victims (rape? No, you experienced “…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/23 04:20 PM
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This feels like an extension of the male hyperagency idea that's so pervasive. This is usually mocked in the form of "if a man does something dumb, he's dumb, but if a woman does something dumb, women are dumb" -- that effect does exist, but there's a flipside to that thinking: If a woman does something bad, it's never her fault. She wasn't supported properly, society was mean to her, etc. If a man does something bad, it's because he (or maleness itself) is defective. It shows up in violence: if…
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:24 PM
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It's very frequently the idea that men will attack women if they share the same restroom, that women can't be "safe" if men are in the same space. In other words, anti-male bigotry.
/r/MensRights02/02/23 08:18 PM
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I think you'll find that nearly no one cares about men, specifically. They may care about "men" in that they care about all humans, and that includes men, but it's profoundly rare for folks to specifically care about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/23 08:03 PM
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I think this is an expression of what I've been calling the "woke male hyperagency fallacy" -- essentially, any time any part of society is a particular way, the only possible explanation to the typical woke person is that men made it that way. So, men don't get custody? Not a result of 1920s feminism making the assumption that children need their mother, it's the patriarchy (and the men running it). Women don't like a man? Must be a shitty man. Woman doing something evil/violent? Must be contro…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 03:41 PM
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There's just so many steps you have to take from "hyperbolic narcissist woman says hyperbolic things about political enemies to score points with feminists" to "men hate women because comments exist". Yes, I read the headline. Did you? It seems like you sorta took a jumble of the words in the headline and decided for yourself what they mean based on what would most outrage you, which is really normal behavior in /r/feminisms, but like... it'd be nice if we didn't do it in here.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:01 PM
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I’m not saying any of the straw men you replied with after your first paragraph, and it’s absurd that you read that into my question. Have a little charity in your interpretation. Can you explain what “If they can be freely abusive, and that men have to suffer from it” means, and how it relates to this news article?
/r/MensRights22/11/22 07:11 PM
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How is this a men’s rights issue? Honestly.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 04:43 PM
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Yeah, but that doesn’t mean looks for women as much as you think it does. “Surface level” attraction is a confident, assertive, flirty, observant man who she can’t figure out how interested he is… who is also ideally built and hot. You, as a man, hear the words and think about what “surface level” attraction is for you—basically, youth, health, symmetry, and hips and breasts. Ask the women you know—“have you ever found a guy unattractive and then you saw something, like him picking up his kid, a…
/r/seduction26/10/22 06:50 PM
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It’s certainly less common on dating apps, of course, because it’s very hard to give a flavor of your personality with a couple words and photos. Many women are pretty disgusted by dating apps, though, and in person you can show off your attractive behavior
/r/seduction26/10/22 06:43 PM
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You're getting downvoted because you're learning entirely the wrong lesson from them but are convinced that must be it for no apparent reason. These girls like your looks. They don't like something else about you. If you met while drunk it's likely you were way more confident and assertive than your normal self, for example.
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:27 PM
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My man, men are far, far more interested in looks than women. And you're right, there is a reason. But there's no reason to think you can figure out that reason. At best you get an educated guess. Even if you could ask her, she likely wouldn't know the reason. If you really think looks are the only thing women care about, go meet more couples. You'll see an awful lot of ugly men with beautiful girlfriends.
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:25 PM
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Of course everyone wants attractive partners. The ability for not-particularly-attractive women to sleep with highly attractive men (but not get into a long relationship with them) is presumably part of what's skewing women's perceptions. Even a decade ago the perception seems to be something like this: https://imgur.com/L9Vu4Zo
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:23 PM
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She said it was a ‘surface-level physical attraction’ thing. And we kissed. So she liked your looks. Like I said, if you’re not showing any red flags/not saying anything retarded and she still ghosts - it’s your looks. And then she fucked off because she didn't like something about your interactions with her. What evidence do you have that it was your looks, then? I think you're 100% wrong. If she ghosts, she decided you're not competent, social, or ambitious enough for her. Your looks were appa…
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:14 PM
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… says the person literally advocating for systemic anti-male bias because some men are violent. Quick, do the same analysis on black people and show us how racist you are (you’ve already shown your sexism off).
/r/MensRights17/10/22 08:27 PM
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I’m sorry you’re so terrified of women. I hope you’ll overcome that at some point. By the way, in the analogy you’re talking about with seatbelts, I’m the guy who’s saying “sure, wear your seatbelt, but you’ll probably be ok if you go for a drive”, and you’re the guy going “SEATBELTS AREN’T GOING TO SAVE YOU. IF YOU JUST WALK BY A ROAD YOU’LL PROBABLY BE RUN OVER. WE MUST AVOID CARS AT ALL COSTS.”
/r/seduction17/10/22 05:59 PM
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*most women No, women are generally agreeable, certainly more-so than men, and are socialized to be even less confrontational. If you find they aren't, it's about 99% you're socially uncalibrated. Again, women want this strategy to work when men have been taught to not approach and not bother women now. Lmao do you not see how backwards this is? Yep, completely backwards, except what you don't understand is that the women are trying to tell the men who are socially uncalibrated to leave them alo…
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:12 AM
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Let me explain for you: Some women are disagreeable assholes who would rather snap at you than say hi in the gym. The most disagreeable ones, with the worst experiences with men, are the most likely to comment on this experience online. Btw, the strategy works just fine if what you're looking for is a man that takes initiative, which is exactly what most women want. That he failed to talk to her is SUCCESS for her strategy: she ignored the wimp. That said, while a man not being a pushover is vit…
/r/seduction16/10/22 11:00 PM
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You’re profoundly dishonest or not able to remember your own comments.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 01:39 PM
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Go read a news outlet instead of making up bullshit.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 01:38 PM
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I really, really want to hear your analysis of why black men are shot by police more often.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 01:37 PM
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And here we have a victim of feminist propaganda. Observe how she has no idea the the majority of abuse of children is committed by women, and works off the deepest of all feminist ideas: “men bad”.
/r/MensRights15/10/22 01:36 PM
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“You’re” and “in fact”. But I’m curious. Why’s he an asshole?
/r/MensRights15/10/22 01:33 PM
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Dude if you’re going to go around telling everyone what confidence isn’t, give a definition yourself or shut the fuck up.
/r/seduction14/10/22 06:15 PM
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… you experience humiliation from people saying things on the Internet? I’m sorry bro. Maybe get some help.
/r/seduction14/10/22 06:08 PM
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Why the fuck would I waste effort teaching you? You clearly don’t think you have anything to learn. Indeed, you’re downright hostile to learning anything in here, haven’t spent the like 15 minutes to learn the most basic basics of what people are talking about, and constantly spew feminist-propaganda level of understanding of PUA/seduction stuff.
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:50 PM
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Funny, I used that as an example of push/pull to this person who thought it had something to do with dishonesty earlier and thought to myself “I don’t have to explain this is just a shitty example to show what’s meant by push/pull, right?” Looks like I overestimated.
/r/seduction13/10/22 10:08 PM
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push / pull and every other technique that is not honest gets no play from me. That's not... what? You think push/pull is dishonest? Push/pull is literally bog-standard flirting... "God, you'd get me in so much trouble... I'd better avoid you." You going to tell us how negging is just insulting people next? For someone who spends a lot of time around here you're surprisingly ignorant of basic terminology.
/r/seduction13/10/22 02:06 PM
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man i can't teach you shit. Accurate.
/r/seduction13/10/22 02:02 PM
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Because all that needs to be said is “send one if you want to”? Wait, no, also: if you send a dick pic, someone you don’t want to see it might see it. There you go, subject complete.
/r/seduction12/10/22 05:41 PM
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You’re literally complaining about some one complaining about something… why don’t you just boycott this subreddit?
/r/MensRights08/10/22 01:46 PM
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This “it’s us vs them” attitude is exactly what’s wrong with feminism. It sucks seeing the MRM adopt the same shittiness.
/r/MensRights08/10/22 01:24 PM
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The claim that men are “more” oppressed than women either means there are no ways women are disadvantaged (absurdly false), or it means that you can assign a comparison between forms of oppression (how, exactly?). You are committing a non-sequitor: That men are more oppressed would not make it an either/or. … and strawman, the claim is that a binary distinction of “oppressed” and “not oppressed” doesn’t accurately model the system.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:41 PM
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Even if everything you claimed were true, no part of your response is evidence it’s an either/or. Women are raped more often than men, even if you don’t use bullshit feminist statistics. See? Not an either/or. Complicated social systems don’t boil down to “men or women more oppressed”.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:37 PM
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Men who can’t be controlled are actually exactly what many women want. Don’t conflate narcissistic/Machiavellian women for all women—we’ve all seen controlling assholes of every gender.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 07:34 PM
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My friend, I’m sorry about those challenges. It sounds tough as hell. And you’re right that emotional instability is unattractive to most women. Which is a catch-22 for a LOT of men, because we display emotional instability when we approach a girl (oh no! What if she thinks I’m a creep!) or when we date (oh no! What if she doesn’t like me!), or when we’re intimate… But I don’t think you’re right about your prospects, or how much there is you can do to alter your situation. If you aren’t regularl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 10:31 PM
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I’m with you on the hypocrisy. People who have this view are shitting on both men and women, treating men as the only ones with moral agency. That said, I think a LOT of the male-perpetrated violence was… a guy who really needed some help, particularly a few years before he got so twisted that violence was his only answer. It’s tough. In a perfect world we’d be able to really help people who couldn’t stop themselves from being violent.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 08:21 PM
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Literally >99% of PUA coaches, materials, resources, etc, point out that you must actually go talk to many girls because you WILL NEVER get anywhere close to a 100% success rate. I have no idea where that perception could’ve come from, other than the various idiots talking about “pushing”, but even they will tell you there’s a time to leave.
/r/seduction04/04/22 07:27 PM
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People rarely know the reasons for their own actions. Feedback is important but no girl is going to tell you what you failed to do right. The best you’ll get is what you did that made them feel bad—and it might even be accurate.
/r/seduction04/04/22 06:38 PM
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Yes, and the point he was making is that that upper limit is so far away and hard to achieve that for most folks, more will always be better.
/r/seduction04/04/22 04:29 PM
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The typical “2-8%” figure is bullshit anyway. They just assume that any cases that couldn’t be proved as false were true.
/r/MensRights21/03/22 03:41 PM
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Iligal is not the expectation. If someone is doing something illegal then report them so they can be dealt with to fix the illegal behaviour. Ok, so your position then is that this policy is completely pointless since sick time already covers it? Weird, seemed like you thought the opposite. I don’t see what harm can happen from people accounting for menstruation. Ok, so, you probably will focus on the wrong thing here, but let's say I gave everyone with testicles a day off a month to account for…
/r/MensRights06/03/22 05:30 PM
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I think this company in the post is just raising awareness about menstruation and that it’s okay to take leave if it can impact work performance. That's because you're inclined to believe any pro-female policy as harmlessly good. The linked image has no indication there's any equity effort at all for this policy, and given how very rare it is for anyone to care about the fair treatment of men, it's not surprising. In reality menstrual leave all companies with sick leave have. They can’t question…
/r/MensRights06/03/22 04:00 PM
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Do you think that people with menses are less able to work than people without? Because I don’t. (If it were true, then women are less productive than men on average, unless some other factor makes up for it.) If it were a fair policy that allows a certain amount of medical leave for conditions that impair work, such as difficult menses, it would say that. But it’s not; it’s designed to address concerns that usually only women have while ignoring other equally valid problems.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 01:46 AM
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Yeah, so, why restrict it to menstruation then? Is a cis male with a severe headache less deserving of support than a cis woman with severe period cramps?
/r/MensRights05/03/22 09:17 PM
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I've never read a story and though "No this doesn't appeal to me because the main character doesn't have a penis". Yeah, but how many stories have you read that would fail a reversed Bechdel test? It's hard to imagine being on the other side of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 05:16 PM
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You're expecting Google to stand up against RAINN's sexism? Why?
/r/MensRights19/02/22 09:11 PM
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Your bigotry is showing.
/r/MensRights19/02/22 05:04 PM
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It’s honestly stupidly simple to do right. Give people the same benefits in terms of cost to the business—for the women who need time off for periods, they can take sick time, or make up for it by working extra hours. Those same options should be given to any man with chronic pain problems. Forget about making special rules by gender, it’s nearly never necessary. We are humans. We are more alike than different. Men and women should be given the same amount of time off for childbirth. The man and…
/r/MensRights19/02/22 05:04 PM
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You know… if I say that I prefer “they/them”, but leave out the “because I think you’ll discriminate against me less”, and let them assume it’s “because I identify as non-binary”… If someone’s going to insist that people can’t be boiled down to stereotypes while treating people differently based on stereotypes they have no reason to categorize differently other than special pleading… why not fuck with their categories?
/r/MensRights19/02/22 04:53 PM
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Lol. Insults: when your position is so unthinking that you respond to contrary ideas by attack. I really hope someday you’ll wake up from your dogma, but you’re gonna have a real bad day when you do.
/r/MensRights19/02/22 03:41 PM
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It’s the typical culture war bullshit. You said a word that means you’re part of the Bad Group, you’re supposed to use nice Newspeak words man.
/r/seduction12/02/22 06:44 PM
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You cannot equate the two, it's just bad faith. You've arbitrarily decided the criteria by which human life "counts", and then accuse others of acting in "bad faith" when they don't agree with you. Ironic.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 06:21 PM
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Cool, now do the same analysis for black people vs white.
/r/MensRights09/02/22 04:53 PM
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His most recent book on the topic is a starting place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/22 07:59 PM
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The “except men” and “except white people” is just sorta implied these days I guess. Reddit used to say “harassment of minorities” until they realized men are a minority, last I checked they say “marginalized groups” (aka anyone other than men or white people).
/r/MensRights19/01/22 04:09 PM
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Or choose to have sex. Rape is no defense to child support in the good ‘ok “patriarchal” USA.
/r/MensRights17/01/22 06:41 PM
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It’s a hate subreddit. That is specifically allowed, as it’s not “hate speech” that’s disallowed on Reddit, it’s “hate speech against non white or non male people”
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:37 AM
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It’s actually a normal part of Wokeism: Describe something in terms no one could object to (“racism is bad”) subtly redefine your terms “racism = racism + power” add in a sprinkling of faith-based “knowledge” (“western society cannot be understood except as a power structure where white people dominate, therefore any testing is biased in favor of whites”) use this to justify policy change (“putting black people in the college they should go based on their population, rather than standardized tes…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/22 08:53 PM
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Shelters being needed is absolutely the case. Many women, and men, are victims of abuse and should have access to a shelter. Approximately 0 men do, and you can trace much of the reasoning to the crazy ideas in the Duluth model. The Duluth model teaches that all violence (including violence against men committed by women) is due to toxic patriarchal influence, wherein the man tries to dominate the woman. This is utter anti-feminist (women have no agency at all? Really?), anti-male, anti-human tr…
/r/MensRights04/01/22 05:55 PM
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Yawn. Your trolling is getting really weak.
/r/seduction03/01/22 05:32 PM
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Yeah, the "purpose" of those shelters is proper. The issue is that every single one using the Duluth model (many, probably most of them) is causing societal damage and damage to most of the men involved (who, statistically, are involved in mutually violent relationships), though they are at least creating relatively safe spaces for women.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 05:00 PM
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“I get to criticize what you say, you criticizing is ‘doubling down’.” Good god the simps are out in force tonight.
/r/seduction03/01/22 04:57 AM
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Your entire comment is so profoundly confused I don't know where to start. "Fear"? Lol, what the fuck are you on about? Why the fuck would I "fear" women liking it when I make a move with them? Shes telling you that she A.) Isn't like that, and B.) doesnt know any other women like that. None of this is bad reasoning. Yes, it is. Go read my original reply to her. How am I accurately responding to what you're saying she's saying comments ago if I'm misunderstanding her? This whole thread is like a…
/r/seduction02/01/22 04:28 AM
1

This is a pointless insult. Many men are not normal, and some men are asexual, demisexual, or religious.
/r/seduction01/01/22 09:38 PM
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Maybe in a year or two this comment will “seep into your consciousness”. Lol. You'd have to have said something with informational content rather than vague claims of wrongness and insults for it to seep into anyone's consciousness. I'll bite. What "behaviors that you described" have caused failed relationships for you?
/r/seduction01/01/22 09:29 PM
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I am genuinely trying to understand what is said by each comment. I am not "picking the wording apart", her core argument, as best I can figure, is: "I am not like that, the women I know are not like that because of X evidence, and therefore this behavior is rare". I accept she is the way she says. Everyone here does as far as I can tell. However, the X evidence is bad evidence based on bad reasoning, and the behavior is not rare at all. If you think that is not her argument, can you explain to …
/r/seduction01/01/22 09:23 PM
1

Hey dude. Take a breath. Seriously. You will not be able to understand these things while frustrated. You're missing the concept of "common knowledge". What's the difference here: Police: You did crime. Criminal: Yeah, but what if I bribe you? and Police: You did crime. Criminal: Could we somehow take care of this right here? holding wallet out In both cases, a bribe is offered, and both parties basically understand this. What hasn't happened is that the bribe has not become common knowledge bet…
/r/seduction01/01/22 09:16 PM
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I live in a large city where I can go on like 2 hour walks per day. That's amazing! I wish I walked more, I need to, gonna be moving to a city to do just that! :) you don’t need to be constantly lifting weights to be physically healthy lol. Depends what you mean by "healthy". Would you like better moods, less inflammation, increased strength, lower all-cause mortality, etc? Then go lift weights (or do anything else similarly strenuous).
/r/seduction01/01/22 08:44 PM
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Being passionate and driven about something will also improve your mental health as much as being fit and is just as attractive. Being passionate and driven is kind of a description of parts of good mental health (like having a functioning liver will improve your health!... technically yeah, but, like, how?). You're completely right that it's attractive! I don’t work out regularly Then start. Turn those walks into jogs, or better yet, start a routine that involves repeatedly doing things until y…
/r/seduction01/01/22 08:31 PM
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Oh, then you've got no physical barriers and your time spent trying to optimize that for the sake of getting girls is probably wasted. Get a therapist/mentor/good book on your mental issues, fix them. Go to a social place and talk to 1000 girls. Both of those will pay 100X more dividends than tweaking your frame a little more.
/r/seduction01/01/22 08:13 PM
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I'm sorry you're having a hard time following the thread. Here's a recap: A: I can safely say that you are an outlier who defies the overall trend. You: On the contrary, I find that it’s usually men [...] Of course you’re right I can only speak for myself, but I have genuinely never ever heard of the woman backing out because the man isn’t making a sexual move right away. B: Yes, of course you find that, you're an extreme outlier. [...] You really think your girlfriends are going to say somethin…
/r/seduction01/01/22 08:08 PM
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Part of my confidence comes from how I see myself in the mirror, but I am working on my mental health as well Being physically fit WILL IMPROVE YOUR MENTAL HEALTH. It's not said enough or loudly enough.
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:54 PM
1

but there's very few if any girls who find doughy guys more attractive than lean ones. There are a LOT of women who prefer >10% BF. Depends what you mean by "lean" and "doughy" I suppose. Every girl has certain preferences, but ultimately they aren't super picky provided your game is tight. Ding ding ding. Any "successful" male works, the body is just one data point among many.
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:53 PM
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Do what makes you feel good and don't worry about how you think people think you should be because like I said there isn't a 1 size fits all So, this is GREAT advice. But mostly because adopting a "I'm doing it for myself" attitude is VERY VERY GOOD (for non-narcissists). :) However, would you give that advice to a girlfriend who was asking for how to dress when going out to the club to find a guy? there isn't a 1 size fits all Perhaps not, but humans are attracted to health, symmetry, etc. And …
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:51 PM
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Low bf% will get you noticed on the beach. It's like huge tits for men. Works on a lot of folks, definitely eye-grabbing. Not universal though. However, what is near-universal is that women are attracted to STRENGTH, and are impressively good at estimating it based on visual appearance. The women who say "I'm not attracted to huge guys" are either talking about absurd extremes we will not get to without steroids or genetic lotteries, or what they MEAN is "yeah he's physically attractive, but onl…
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:46 PM
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I find that it’s usually men who don’t want to continue to date if the woman doesn’t “put out” sooner rather than later. In my personal life I have never experienced anything other than that. Yes, of course you find that, you're an extreme outlier. If you were a man, you'd be complaining about all the women who lose interest for "no reason" (because you didn't escalate with them). I have genuinely never ever heard of the woman backing out because the man isn’t making a sexual move right away. Yo…
/r/seduction01/01/22 07:32 PM
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It's religious thinking in the extreme. The same way most devout Christians will not seriously entertain Jesus not loving them, woke people will not seriously entertain white male victimhood (it goes against Woke Doctrine), and the silent majority is very scared of woke people calling them racist or sexist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 02:35 PM
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I'm not sure what the official documentation says these days, but the admins have repeatedly made it clear that reddit's effective stance on hate speech is that it is only permitted on reddit if the target is men or white people. Like, they're not even pretending to be fair or blind (as in justice) anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/21 02:23 PM
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I mean, I agree with all the specific claims you make—but personally, I think not drinking sand is worth slightly higher price and small risk of lowered efficacy (creatine is already in your cells; the goal of supplementation is to saturate them, it’s unlikely other forms that get into cells will fail to do that).
/r/MensRights18/12/21 07:47 PM
1

For every woman killed by an Elliott Smith there’s a man who was murdered. Literally. There are many more male victims of murder, just as there are with most forms of violent crime. There is an enormous difference, in that Elliott Smith represents a tiny minority who is so deranged he makes national news—but only because he fits exactly your image of a scary man. The news plays to you with scary “non-woke/incel/boomer” (pick your bigotry) men. You internalize the narrative: “maleness=scary”. Mea…
/r/MensRights18/12/21 05:04 AM
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Audiophile? Bose? My buddy, grab some budget (or not so budget, what am I, your mom?) IEMs and a fiio. You can thank me later. ;)
/r/seduction17/12/21 05:12 PM
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So, bold + reasonably done fashion, muscle, high-confidence signaling consistent with bald head and beard, combined with going somewhere public and doing a high-value thing (writing code) while being totally non-needy (headphones). Yep, sounds like girl bait to me. (In particular, women like strength, and you know what’s a better proxy than height for strength? Muscle size.)
/r/seduction17/12/21 05:09 PM
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If you aren’t completely closed-minded, you can see someone else make all the same errors you’re making here: https://youtu.be/3WMuzhQXJoY
/r/MensRights16/12/21 08:48 PM
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MRA think all women behave like criminals and society doesn’t hold them accountable. Sure, to the same degree that feminists think all men are rapists. You are actually not capable of reading what people are saying here and hearing it, because you filter it through this lens: Elliot Rodger said shit like this before he murdered a bunch of women. It’s so stupid of a point that if it was said about anyone or anything else, you’d know it was moronic: Are you also against gun control because Hitler …
/r/MensRights16/12/21 08:46 PM
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Were you not claiming that OP wanting to be strong “like a man” was putting women into a lower category?
/r/MensRights16/12/21 08:38 PM
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Yeah, this is normal. There's a cabal of powermods who systematically try to prevent people from non-feminist perspectives. Be ready for more bans if you keep posting here.
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:53 AM
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I literally said FDS is incorrect and an extreme position. You twisting that as me condoning FDS is nuts. ??? I didn't say you were condoning FDS. And you just said this: Misogyny gets upvoted here just as often as misandry is upvoted there. Uh, no, it doesn't, not even close, and that's what my response was largely about. Do you have anything resembling a coherent point? you sound upset that r/braincels was shut down. That's the best example of an ad hominem I've seen in weeks. Bravo.
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:51 AM
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Are you talking about, like, 99% of sports, or what?
/r/MensRights16/12/21 01:48 AM
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No, it’s not sexist. That you’re even comparing the largest mens rights forum probably anywhere to that idiot box that is FDS that even no self respecting bubble-ignorant feminist could treat seriously, actually shows how absurdly sexist your viewpoint is. The male versions of FDS were banned months ago, but you are probably literally unaware of them (or listened to the “hate group” propaganda). (Y know. Because of the bans.) Did you know that FDS is still here specifically because Reddit allows…
/r/MensRights15/12/21 06:56 AM
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More like "any creatine" and "any protein", but yeah pretty much.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:36 AM
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Lol, you apparently have never been on a liberal campus. There are a lot of men who are as crazy about feminism as the craziest women.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:35 AM
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Some MRAs are like that, like AlienAmerican1 up there. A lot of men have had society crush them in ways no one has ever dreamed before, so the rage and lack of clear thought is sometimes abundant. Difference is, in the FDS subreddit, they're all like that. They embrace it. The goal is to be a horrible human being who maximally exploits their romantic partner, and to get rid of prosocial "pickme" behaviors. What's embraced here is freedom for men to vent their frustrations, sometimes in aggressiv…
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:33 AM
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When you said it was a good idea to never listen to them.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:30 AM
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Don't listen to what women say, ever. What impressively bad advice. Sounds like an awful feminist talking about men. Like, seriously. Can you hear yourself? What would you say about someone saying "don't listen to what men say, ever"? Hold yourself to a better standard man.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 03:29 AM
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I can't imagine most women want to go back to the times when they made a fraction of what men made. Not the point. The point is that while men historically enjoyed certain benefits, such as superior access to the job market, those came with responsibilities and downsides that have been nearly totally ignored in feminist analysis, such as more time spent working, increased chance of death or injury on the job, alimony, etc.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 03:20 PM
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We’re quite familiar with the claimed definition. If the term is as innocent and neutral as you claim, where are the discussions of toxic femininity?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/21 02:22 PM
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And if he was a victim of statutory rape how is he still having to pay and why is she not being convicted?? In the eyes of the law, being raped is no excuse to not pay child support. Yes, to your rapist. Yes, even if it was provably rape because you were underage and she was not.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 04:28 PM
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Not really. Just garden-variety tribalism/confirmation bias. She literally is not capable of understanding male vulnerability unless it's in a form acceptable to her religion, because for her, vulnerability could only come with a lack of power, and all men have more power than all women, because, well, "patriarchy" (you're really not supposed to think past that part of the scripture).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/21 03:55 PM
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It’s only a “actual, real” statistic if you think a man being forced to have sex is “not rape”. Would you actually read a link to cdc.gov that I can dig up for you that proves how it’s categorized? I have this crazy idea that men being made to have sex with a woman is rape, though, so from that perspective your stats are false.
/r/seduction30/10/21 02:18 PM
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They're 550% more likely to be raped than men, there's a good reason they're uncomfortable being approached by strange men. They have a good reason, sure, but the reason is they’ve been told this false story of being so much more likely to be the victim of rape. But that’s only true when you don’t count men being forced to put their penis in a woman’a vagina as “rape” (the CDC euphemistically calls this “made to penetrate”, which they do not consider to be a form of rape), or you rely on policin…
/r/seduction30/10/21 01:16 PM
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Good god you are so selfawarewolves. If you don’t think you’re morally superior, you need a communications class. Or a dozen. Is this a troll account?
/r/MensRights13/10/21 10:02 PM
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This is because unlike MRAs, Feminists aren't generally horrible people who discriminate to the point of creating victims where before you had normal people. Hahahahahaha. The cluelessness. Tell that to the tens of thousands of male abuse victims who have been through the “Duluth model” which teaches only men are responsible for violence and were gaslit to believe they were actually the abuser. You’re profoundly ignorant on every topic you’ve discussed here.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 09:59 PM
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Quick, name one law MRAs are upset about on here, then show how it doesn’t exist. I’ll wait. Oh wait, you’re completely ignorant on the topic, aren’t you? You decided the group must be evil and therefore the things they are complaining about aren’t true. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about but you’ve certainly been well indoctrinated to think feminism is always good. You should probably just list “feminism” as your religion really.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 09:55 PM
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Pure emotionally driven argumentation from a radical who has no idea they’re even a radical because they’re so in a bubble. You’re your own parody.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 09:51 PM
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FDS started as a good thing FDS has--from extremely early on--recommended making men pay for dates by lying to, embarrassing, and belittling them in public, and has always been deeply bigoted towards the kink community. If it was ever a good thing it was long before it got any popularity.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 06:14 PM
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so there must be an external factor going on that we are not seeing. Also are they egalitarian by law or culture (or both) in these countries, Well, you can look at the research yourself, but given that you jumped to “there must be an external factor”, I guess you’re unwilling to consider the possibility you might be wrong.
/r/seduction29/09/21 07:52 PM
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Interesting hypothesis. How do you explain highly gender-egalitarian countries having much higher rates of gender segregation in profession choice, since it should be the opposite given your worldview?
/r/seduction29/09/21 12:30 AM
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/r/leftwingmaleadvocates has a less of a “feminists are to blame for everything” vibe, without the “feminism is our religion and of course people treat men badly, men are trash” vibe of /r/menslib.
/r/MensRights10/09/21 05:39 PM
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To be fair, the majority of comments on that AMA were highly critical of that particular absurdly misandrist asshole (a title I bestow as he’s convinced all male victims are actually perpetuators who need to be “convinced” they’re actually perpetrators—abusing emotionally vulnerable men, in other words).
/r/MensRights10/09/21 05:35 PM
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Well, child custody going to women was a new feminist concept about 100 years ago. Now, of course, it’s “patriarchal concepts of child rearing”, or, more likely, “you can’t make shared custody the default; women should be getting custody more often”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/21 10:43 PM
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That’s a funny way to say “no”.
/r/MensRights03/09/21 02:32 PM
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Oh, a quote talking about murder as a response to a claim about abuse rates. Yep. Smack-down argument there, you really showed him.
/r/MensRights03/09/21 02:28 PM
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<3 What a nice compliment. Sounds like you've kinda already done what you can to reassure him him, though I will point out that men are typically much worse at subtext than women expect us to be. You must be VERY VERY clear. I'd say you gotta call out the flaking on seeing you (not cool, and you putting up with it too long would be unattractive) without coming off as desperate/needy or butthurt about it (also unattractive) or making him feel too bad about it (since it still might be anxiety/emba…
/r/seduction30/08/21 03:54 PM
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I think you have one more shot if you're willing to drive the interaction for a bit. Either he's just done for whatever other reason and too polite to ghost you (or, sadly, keeping you on the back burner), but more likely based on your description, he's reminded of what he thinks of as a horribly embarrassing event and believes that's what will happen again but also likes you and therefore doesn't want to stop interacting with you. So, help him with that embarrassment/anxiety by telling him your…
/r/seduction30/08/21 02:38 PM
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Cool. Find me one even sorta mainstream feminist discussing “toxic femininity”. I’ll wait.
/r/MensRights28/08/21 06:17 PM
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Way to dodge everything of substance in my comment. And I take it you didn't read as far 5 words past the headline, huh?
/r/MensRights28/08/21 12:14 AM
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Every man who has bought in to the idea that the only viable response to what they dislike has adopted toxic masculinity. So, we should accurately describe anything women do that's bad as "toxic femininity"? No. Because we would recognize that broad generalizations about a gender using derisive language is a shitty thing to do.
/r/MensRights28/08/21 12:10 AM
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The phrase "toxic masculinity" is a way to criticise and shame men as a whole, and certain men in particular (in this case, Trump). If we find that black people are less likely to choose to receive a vaccine, would you consider explaining it with reference to "toxic blackness" to also be a valid, useful, non-offensive phrase that had nothing to do with shaming people?
/r/MensRights27/08/21 11:10 PM
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I mean, you don’t have to pre-define who the “economically disadvantaged” are unless there’s a good chance an agency or court might not find that to be the case. Black people are far more clearly disadvantaged than women in the USA, so no need to define it that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/21 09:11 PM
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Your husband? Uh no. You have to stay and communicate, AND you have to communicate in a way that after the argument is over, you still like each other. Lol, tell that to my ex. Not sure I wound up with even an hour of communication with her once she decided to bail with no warning at all. That said, one of the biggest points of marriage is that it's supposed to work like you describe, and I think responsible people do treat it that way.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 09:44 PM
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There aren't MRA groups that specifically denounce extremist incel ideology either, despite public perception of their supposed similarity, to my knowledge. Uh, this happens constantly in this very subreddit. You ever go check the downvoted comments? Edit: this was posted 9 days ago and is currently stickied: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/p4akuw/it_shouldnt_have_to_be_said_but_violence_is_not/ MGTOW and Incel issues are NOT specifically men's rights issues. People do NOT have a ri…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:00 PM
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You claimed the argument that feminists in positions of power are doing anti-male things is an apex fallacy. Fine, that's logically consistent. What, then, is your evidence? If it's the apex fallacy, then the majority of feminists should disagree, and I'd assert that groups of such feminists should occur, one way or another. So surely you can point at such a group? If not, what's your evidence? The groups don't exist, though. If there is such a population of feminists, they function as the moder…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 02:31 PM
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That's not compatible with discriminating against trans women. This is a circular argument. You smuggled in the "trans women are women" part of the general modern left ideology, which is the part TERFs don't agree with and wasn't even part of your definition. They think you're not the feminist because you're "hurting women by supporting trans rights". Both of those are completely consistent positions with the rest of feminist ideology. If you assume only that transwomen are men, can you point ou…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:59 PM
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(which defines domestic violence as something men do to women) Minor point, the Duluth model also says that the patriarchy can cause women to be violent (so it's still men's fault, obviously). Almost as stupid and awful, but not quite as insane.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:47 PM
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You aren't responding to the argument. Of course none of this is black and white. You think there are large groups of feminists who don't believe in the Patriarchy? Can you point one out? How about a feminist organization or group that disparages Mary Koss's awful work that got millions of male rape victims reclassified at the CDC, effectively erasing them as victims? Oh, wait, no, they near-universally parrot her dubious work on sexual assault stats on campuses. You're making an analogy that do…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:44 PM
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There aren't self-identifying TERFs running around. There are many people who identify as feminists who are explicitly transphobes, though perhaps you're right, they wouldn't call themselves TERFs usually (I have seen it though). Transphobia and Feminism aren't compatible Lol. They actually are perfectly compatible; you've just defined away feminists who are transphobes. It's a "no true Scotsman" argument. Either way, your comment could've just been a reply to the original comment and it would'v…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:24 PM
1

Pretty sure by "correct" he simply meant "matching".
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:21 PM
1

How the fuck can someone half identify as gender? Honestly doesn't seem hard. Consider what it means to "identify" as something. It's to feel you fit in that category, right? What if you feel like you sorta fit the category in some ways, but sorta don't in others? I haven't talked to a demifem person, but like, what if the person just fucking loves wearing feminine clothes and makeup, but is biologically male and fine with that and also loves, I don't know, their beard and their masculine intere…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:19 PM
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Because there are only two sides to every conversation on this sub and I didn't jump on the bandwagon. Or you responded to a comment answering "what's a TERF?" by saying something that's most reasonably interpreted as "TERF's other definition is transphobe", and people didn't think that was accurate. Nah, must be the other thing, stupid MRAs. Couldn't have been anything you did. rolls eyes
/r/MensRights24/08/21 01:02 PM
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I'm getting some serious homophobic vibes off you, and I'm really not interested in dealing with that. ...? I'm pretty sure he was trying to empathize with a common complaint of gay men on here, which is that some women will treat gay men as an "accessory" (and, worse, often not respect boundaries), all the while insisting their behavior is appropriate since you're their "gay best friend".
/r/MensRights24/08/21 12:58 PM
1

I couldn't overcome any of the hurdles I faced, and there's no reason to believe I can overcome them. That is depression. It is not an accurate view of the world, it's distorted. I know it really seems like it is accurate, and that any help will be useless. Please know that that's what almost everyone with depression thinks, but it just isn't true. The only way to get laid according to this forum is to have an attitude that you get laid all the time when you have no idea what it's like to get la…
/r/seduction22/08/21 01:10 PM
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That kind of attitude, unfortunately, is exactly what women are built to detect and avoid. Get some mental health help my friend. You’re worth it.
/r/seduction21/08/21 06:34 PM
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Unless there is some kind of abuse. Realistically, the problem here is that there will always be "abuse" if someone's payday depends on it. And many kinds of abuse leaves little to no evidence. But yeah, on the other hand, causing (nearly always) men to become financial providers for women who just didn't care for them anymore is deeply fucked up.
/r/MensRights18/08/21 02:45 PM
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I would be incredibly intrigued to see evidence of a secret population of more than 13,000 women roaming the streets of America raping men with impunity and not facing charges or even a whisper of publicity over it. Would you really? The largest study on the topic (as performed by the CDC) finds >3 million men are victimized by non-consentual sex in the US yearly, and that the majority of those cases involve a female perpetrator. Want a link? Assuming, that is, you believe that a man being force…
/r/seduction16/08/21 10:40 PM
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Given we know that those 13,840 people represent a tiny fraction of the women who are raped, due largely to the low chance of reporting, might there be something that would reduce men’s rape reporting even lower?
/r/seduction16/08/21 10:24 PM
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I'm about 99% sure you're flat wrong here. You have a link?
/r/MensRights13/08/21 02:14 PM
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because they include women that are stay at home moms and insert a $0 salary for them Every gender gap analysis I've seen uses only full time workers; stay at home moms are not included. Of course, they ignore the part where men work more hours on average, and just about every other factor.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 01:21 PM
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That part of my claim seems to be wrong; could be I'm thinking of a different publication from the CDC or my memory was just wrong. Thanks for the correction. That said, they still don't categorize "made to penetrate" as rape, which is clearly not how the public would define the word (check 10 dictionaries), and therefore they still mislead the public as news organizations will take this to mean what its plain english meaning is: Nearly 1 in 5 women (18.3%) and 1 in 71 men (1.4%) in the United S…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 06:29 PM
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I don't see a definition that includes forced or made to penetrate. The FBI (which is the agency that defines the UCR system, which is where the definition you're referring to is defined and used) supposedly believe that definition includes male victims of being made to penetrate, at least according to some random email that floats around /r/mensrights. Either way, it's an extremely awkward grammatical structure which is almost perfectly ambiguous--people who think rape includes male victims rea…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 06:11 PM
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They have to because by federal law, made to penetrate isn't rape. This isn't even wrong. There is not a federal legal definition of "rape", and even if there were, the CDC would not be bound by it, because legal charges and tracking violence in an academic way (as the CDC does) have never been the same thing.
/r/MensRights12/08/21 06:03 PM
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Eh… unless you count them classifying the majority way men get raped (a woman forcing a man to put his penis in her, about 85% of all nonconsensual sex with male victims if I remember correctly) as a non-rape category, then leaving that category out of the summary NIPSVS stats on rape, leading every mainstream source to claim that male victimization (and female perpetrators) are very rare compared with the other way. They do at least track that data in their highly-unadvertised data on being “ma…
/r/MensRights12/08/21 01:45 PM
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At this point they really should just put in their polices “no hate except against white men”, it’d be clearer and more accurate.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 06:46 PM
3

Nah, that’s not how it works. Subscription data isn’t available like that. What the number 19 means is that the users who post in FDS are 19 times more likely to post in the surviving infidelity subreddit than the average redditor. What I’d like to know is whether that’s because women who follow FDS advice get cheated on ~20X as often, or whether it’s people who went through infidelity before that get drawn to the toxic cesspool that is FDS.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 06:45 PM
3

Saying biological females can compete with transexual females based on this one example is a true statement. Not in any meaningful or useful way it isn’t. If I can show you a woman that’s taller than a tall man, would you agree that women are better basketball players than men because they’re taller?
/r/MensRights09/08/21 08:26 PM
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You're definitely right that this is surprisingly effective as propaganda, given that we have someone in this very thread that thinks this is somehow "evidence" about whether trans women will win or lose. Instead of sending a transgender woman who is in her prime, they send a transgender woman who is double the age of the rest of the competitors, who was not even very competitive before transitioning, and who had sustained what should be a career-ending injury only a few years ago. Then she fail…
/r/MensRights09/08/21 06:52 PM
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Again, either the claim is completely stupid because it's trivially obvious to everyone that some trans women will lose against some cis women (edit: since you're confused, if that's what you meant, this would mean I agree with your claim), or your evidence is probably not relevant. If you'd like to clarify what you think this evidence proves, I expect I'd be happy to disagree or point out that no one thought that wasn't the case.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 06:40 PM
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This transexual woman losing is proof that biological females can compete and win over transfemales with much larger frames. It's either no such proof, or you're making a claim (at least one trans woman is weaker than the strongest cis women) that is so undisputed and uninteresting you might as well have said nothing.
/r/MensRights09/08/21 05:40 PM
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I’m not gonna attempt to dive into this, but uh: "it helps people fall asleep" except no one falls asleep after cumming. you gotta clean it up and you have to clean your dickhole and cum keeps coming oh fuck no it doesn't let you fall asleep. Yeah, there are many guys who fall asleep very soon after an orgasm at night. Have you ever considered that other people’s experience might be different from yours?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 05:34 PM
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Boys get trafficked also for sure, but more women and girls [...] Oh, well, there are fewer male victims, you're right, we should just not prosecute the people who take advantage of them. Goodness. You can't even hear yourself right now, can you? Should we also only prosecute assault against men, since there are fewer female victims of assault?
/r/MensRights12/07/21 03:24 PM
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Sweden has over 1 murder per capita I don't mean to pick on someone's mistake, but "over 1 murder per capita" is really funny. :D Apparently everyone in Sweden is dead due to murder, including some from neighboring countries.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 03:20 PM
1

kinda scummy, nonetheless. Guess it depends on your point of view and his other actions. If he'd have said the same to anyone regardless of gender given the circumstances, that seems pretty reasonable to me. I mean, if you honestly don't understand that alcohol can make you black-out drunk, and have sex with someone in a way they couldn't really consent to because of that misunderstanding... well, yeah, that sucks for everybody.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 05:47 PM
13

you do realize that treating women as not having agency or responsibility for themselves is also really bad and even dangerous for them right? Yes, which is why so much of feminist theory, a la the Duluth model and other horrible pieces of fiction, is so offensive. This isn't feminists going 'muh patriarchy' It isn't just feminists going 'muh patriarchy', no, but like... honestly there's such a straight line from feminist theory to this court decision that it's hard to ignore.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 12:18 AM
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This “logic” makes perfect sense if you start thinking of women as helpless non-agents in the world, gust around by whatever forces are around her as if a leaf on the wind, as far too many feminists do. You can see this play out in the Duluth model very explicitly: the theory goes that women are only violent as a reaction to (or otherwise because of) male violence. It’s never women or a particular woman’s fault. How could it be? That would suggest The Patriarchy isn’t to blame for something, and…
/r/MensRights05/07/21 03:20 PM
1

takeittocirclejerk from menslib who thinks women need to rape men to counteract the effects of the patriarchy. Not that I don't believe you (I recognize your name and think you're very well informed generally), but could you provide your evidence for that?
/r/MensRights05/07/21 01:26 PM
3

but how is it a myth if the data presented is less than 50%? That would imply less likely. I'm honestly struggling to figure out how to explain this. Let's say there were equal numbers of men and women in a population, and 1,000,001 of the men had a stroke, and 1,000,000 of the women had a stroke. Let's also say we have perfect data, we know every single stroke that happened. You could then say that shows that men and women have different risks of stroke; women are about 0.00001% less likely to …
/r/MensRights28/06/21 02:40 PM
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Not an interesting topic for me. Guess you didn't see the point of my comment.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 07:26 PM
3

That’s something feminism works towards as well. Making sure male victims are heard and can find justice. I can guarantee the only ‘feminists’ who think women can’t rape or shouldn’t be charged with it, are radical feminists and don’t stand for the same ideals we do. Ever heard the “1 in 4” college women will be raped/sexually assaulted claim? If you’re not very young, and run in feminist circles, you will have. That’s based on work by Mary P Koss. Indeed, that study coined the phrase “date rape…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:51 PM
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I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a difference in how men and women get treated asking for sick time off. Would you really be surprised by it? There’s someone in this thread right now justifying why that happens. Surely among the millions of employers, some of them share that attitude. How often it actually happens shouldn’t actually matter in our attitude towards whether it’s good or bad. The issue to me is: do we acknowledge that to the degree that happens, that’s a problem, and attempt to adju…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:14 PM
2

I don’t see anything wrong with this I guess if you think women need special help because their periods make them less capable than men, you wouldn’t. I think women can work just as much on average per year as men, and that women should also be paid the same as men because of that. Men are often granted sick leave with no questions asked. Many women will be told they are being dramatic. That should not happen, and to the degree that it does, that’s horrible. Indeed, employers should have no say …
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:00 PM
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Treat the 2020s as the 1920s but with the sexism reversed, and you'll see an awful lot of similarities. Men with "toxic masculinity" vs women with "hysteria". Same pointless attribution of gender-specificity to behavior, same lack of scientific rigor, etc.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 07:07 PM
3

Doesn’t everyone experience some sort of dysphoria growing up? Nope, but it's certainly common and nothing you should worry about! I've never been a stereotypical man (a number of "stereotypically feminine" interests, no/little desire for much of the typical things men talk about) but have never experienced any desire to not be male, other than perhaps when I see how easily women get hired in my field.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 07:06 PM
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Well, trans-ness has been around for forever; certainly long before trans people would have been able to find each other very well. That said, you're not the only one wondering whether some trans experiences are socially mediated, but of course it's considered heretical to even ask such questions. Here's a link to the wikipedia article covering some of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_onset_gender_dysphoria_controversy
/r/MensRights23/06/21 06:45 PM
12

None of them are people of any real mainstream game or renown Hahahaahahahahahahah. Oh man. The lengths people will go to justify their beliefs.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 03:58 PM
12

You can just say you hate women. If anyone wants insight into the perspective that reads the long comment above and thinks it says anything about hating women, Cassie Jaye does a great job of laying out her similar experience of being unable to understand the people she was talking to, and substituting what she thinks they must be saying instead. "I wasn't actually listening to them. I was looking for flaws."
/r/MensRights23/06/21 03:54 PM
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And the message of the episode was essentially that every man is violent and abusive at his core, and that all he needs is a good excuse to exercise that abuse on people, but that if you try really hard, you can be "one of the good ones". The thing is, it could be useful, deep social commentary--humans, in general, are civilized only because we make ourselves civilized. It could be people are responding to that part of it, and they should. Except it made the point by suggesting it's only men who…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 03:46 PM
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Trans people are undoubtedly part of the human experience and should be treated with all the respect due any human being—gay, straight, cis, queer, or anything else. That said, we certainly don’t understand the phenomena very well, and can’t say to what degree environment plays a role. We do know that most (something like 4 out of 5) young people who experience gender dysphoria wind up no longer experiencing it a few years later, so “born trans” doesn’t seem accurate to me.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 03:15 PM
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What the fuck. unless a woman it wanting to target someone specifically, they don't have to lie about being raped. If someone is maliciously and intentionally falsely reports rape, to the point it could be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, why does it matter that they could actually go get raped if they wanted? Like, this is so insane I don't know where to start. Do you think people are lying about rape as, like, a status symbol? The motivations to lie about rape don't go away because rape is ea…
/r/MensRights15/06/21 08:15 PM
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It's a community who nonironically uses "scrote" as a standard pejorative for men. Who they supposedly want to date. The best thing about FDS is that if someone mentions it in a positive light, you know they're somewhere between psychopath and sociopath (inclusive) and should avoid them.
/r/MensRights15/06/21 07:06 PM
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That honestly just confuses me more. What's the reason for lying about rape that isn't about targeting someone?
/r/MensRights15/06/21 06:37 PM
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With their high rape numbers there, I wonder how many false rape allegations are made? Do you think rape being common would make false allegations less common, or more? I […] assume this law will be used to scare women into not reporting being raped. Almost certainly. I’m sure some abusers would use this law to scare people (not “women”) even if it didn’t exist at all. That’s the reason we use “beyond a reasonable doubt” as the standard; people should not be afraid of being punished because they…
/r/MensRights15/06/21 05:59 PM
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I just had to see if you recently posted your age. 34!? “Hit your peak”? Lol. Buddy. My man, shave your balding head, hit the gym hard 3 times a week (this is more important for your well-being than you realize, but also critical for your attractiveness; women near-universally love muscle), get under 20% body fat with a healthy diet, get some good-fitting clothes, and go approach girls. If your social side actually is as fine as you claim (doubtful, did you invite friends to judge who are great …
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:13 PM
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Easily 99% of men have faces that don’t impress women, and even when they do, a lot of that comes down to facial signs of testosterone, strength, and health. You know what else gives off signs of testosterone, strength, and health? Therapy/self improvement (learning to not be a reactive punk), going to the gym (building muscle) and doing basic skin & health care. Every time somebody complains about lack of attractiveness due to their face on here, it’s usually clear what their problem is, and it…
/r/seduction15/06/21 05:01 PM
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and if he and let's say 50 cops testified on this matter it would become a statistic. Yes, but only if you're trying to measure statistics about the perceptions of cops. If you're trying to measure how often certain violence happens, you use a data source that reasonably reliably records information, because the whole point of using statistics is to take human bias out of it.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 05:23 AM
1

Wait, what? From your link: When severe aggression has been perpetrated (e.g., punching, kicking, using a weapon), rates of injury are much higher among female victims than male victims, and those injuries are more likely to be life-threatening and require a visit to an emergency room or hospital. However, when mild-to-moderate aggression is perpetrated (e.g., shoving, pushing, slapping), men and women tend to report similar rates of injury. Which would be the exact opposite of what the cop said…
/r/MensRights11/06/21 05:20 AM
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Charlottesville Heather Heyer is similar except the guy didn't steal the car and she died of a heart attack. That's so far from true I don't know where to start. She died from the blunt force trauma to her chest, as shown in the death investigation report. From the testimony in court, they found her thoracic aorta was severed. It's also not similar in many other ways that matter a lot: Intentionally smashing your car into a crowd vs. plausibly attempting to get away with another crime with no in…
/r/MensRights11/06/21 05:10 AM
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Is this our fault black people commit the most violent crimes ? Doesn't matter. Men also commit more crimes. We still get disproportionate sentences. Both can be true. People may also be downvoting you because they think you're just repeating racist propaganda, but no, the crime rate amongst the black population really is dramatically higher, particularly for the most violent crimes (black people commit many crimes at higher rates than white -- 600% for murder, for example).
/r/MensRights11/06/21 04:52 AM
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Hahaha. Literally constantly. Edit: to be clear, I am not tempted to say these women are representing all women nor call their behavior “femsplaining”, because I don’t believe in prejudice based on gender.
/r/MensRights01/06/21 11:49 PM
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It’s actually not $$$ specifically, though that is one option. It’s resources, or more specifically, the belief that this man can win at resource games vs other men—the strategy is “let men compete, pick the winners”. Consider the broke-as-hell artist that gets lots of attention from ladies, or the football team captain—neither of those people have money, but they have a similar appeal to the rich guy.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 03:23 PM
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Yeah, duh. The bad outcome for most men evolutionarily is their genes not making it to the next generation. (Thus, ‘any’ sex is a win.) The bad outcome for most women evolutionarily is getting an inferior set of genes from the male when she has a child. (Thus, sex is only desirable with the top x% of men.) Not surprisingly, this has translated to modern dating strategies.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 03:20 PM
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No, a “control group” is a group that doesn’t get whatever experimental intervention is being tested in order to have something to compare against. In statistics, when you don’t get all of the relevant data (in this example, you don’t ask all women), the data you do collect is called the “sample”. There’s generally absolutely nothing invalid about a sample size of 1000, but you must take pains to ensure that this is a “random sampling”, or you’ll introduce “selection bias”. It’s particularly imp…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 04:24 PM
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Don’t forget the premeditated nature of waiting until he was asleep, boiling a pot of water, and disabling as many means of him getting medical attention as she could.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 03:26 PM
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but she's not evil or anything she says due to a past expiriance she doesnt trust men working. People don't have to be evil to be sexist. Saying "due to a past experience" doesn't matter. "Due to a past experience, I don't hire black people" should be treated the same way as "Due to a past experience, I don't hire men" (or women, for that matter--someone's bigotry is not justified by having a bad experience with someone of that gender/race/whatever)
/r/MensRights24/05/21 05:53 PM
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i think we all know by now that feminism isn’t really about equality. I think most people don’t know that, because the information that would let them know that is treated as blasphemy, basically.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 04:14 PM
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Your comparison of women looking after themselves to anti black racism is disingenuous and says more about you than me. That you can’t actually describe any difference between the two and think one is bad and one isn’t is my problem? Lol. Kay. Enjoy your prejudices.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 12:13 AM
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Furthermore, our pool of potentially dangerous predators as men is much smaller. There are predatory women yes, but I think by and large the most rightfully fearful group in dating are women. This is because you’re strongly prejudiced against men, in part probably due to an absurdly incorrect sense of how “not dangerous” women are, and a massively inflated sense of how dangerous men are, which is both sexist (treating women as “not dangerous” is nearly identical to treating women as having no ag…
/r/MensRights14/05/21 10:51 PM
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Because some men are homophobic, women shouldn’t hit on men? Not sure I follow.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 10:29 PM
1

I did technically strawman you in some sense I suppose, but only because I was attempting to steelman you and respond to the version of your response that made the most sense and wasn’t hilariously awful in its sentiments—or are you actually trying to say that women generally require flowers to be happy? I assert that flowers are a near-universally accepted gesture of “I didn’t need to do this, but I wanted you to feel that you’re important to me, so I did anyway.” for women. Agreed? So if there…
/r/MensRights14/05/21 10:25 PM
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Lol. Ok “men suffering: it’s definitely their own fault”, news at 11, huh?
/r/MensRights14/05/21 08:08 PM
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Like... the question is about what nice thing a woman might do to show that she values you. If you truly don't want a woman to ever give you any sign she likes you, then, um, cool, you do you, but what a weird way to respond. "You want chocolate or vanilla?" "I am one with the Universe, vanilla and chocolate are mere concepts for those of limited imagination." "Um... cool man. What kind of ice cream you want?" "I AM BEYOND ICE CREAM, MORTAL." "Alright... then why'd you come into this ice cream s…
/r/MensRights14/05/21 05:43 PM
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Nope. Compliments being very rare is a very common male experience.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 05:37 PM
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Except women have absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose from complimenting strangers? Um. Friendship, a smile on someone's face, a romantic relationship maybe... and what do they have to lose exactly? Someone might misinterpret it as being aggressively hit on and loudly reject them or something?
/r/MensRights14/05/21 05:35 PM
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Dude... being better than that hellhole of thinly-veiled sociopathic/narcissistic nonsense is so low of a bar that it’s kind of insulting to /r/MensRights to even compare the two.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:47 PM
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Don’t. Not for a second. You aren’t responsible for what people who look like you do, and being on the subreddit means you’re probably better informed on male issues than >99.99% of the population, meaning you care to help people who don’t look like you, an increasingly rare thing in today’s world, and an incredibly rare thing for people to do for members of groups that (supposedly) “has all the power”.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 08:42 PM
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Every time someone denies being an MRA publicly, someone else reads it and thinks “what’s all this men’s rights stuff all about, anyway?” It’s our job to give them the obvious facts, so if they’re not completely deluded, they might be able to figure it out. I think the most obvious thing that shows how fucked up society is on the subject of men is a question along the lines of “should a woman forcing a man at gunpo…
/r/MensRights09/05/21 01:42 PM
2

Upvote for “Querying is an art.” :)
/r/seduction09/05/21 01:11 AM
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I agree strongly that people are bad at giving advice for dating their own gender. But for the record, men are just as bad at giving advice to women about dating men. And the reason in both cases is not “honesty”, but perception: the audience member can spot good acting, but doesn’t know how to accomplish it. (Not that dating is acting, but it has the same dynamic: knowing how to see signals isn’t the same as knowing how to generate those signals.) You don’t notice how the shaped line on her mak…
/r/seduction09/05/21 12:56 AM
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We also didn’t mention to not murder her, but pro tip: don’t murder her on the date. Or anyone, really.
/r/seduction09/05/21 12:42 AM
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I think the whole paradigm of “who has it worse” is fundamentally bad and wrong. It’s that kind of thinking that makes most feminists unable to understand MRA points, because they look at power as if it’s as simple as “men powerful, women not”, but of course in the real world everyone holds some power, and relationships are complex and can be to benefit, or to the detriment, of everyone involved, or even both at the same time (as is usually the case).
/r/MensRights28/04/21 03:41 AM
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Well... I mean he has a point. Uh... no. You've just sort of imposed your own ideas on the rambling nonsense of the original post. Your comment after the first sentence absolutely has a point. OP can't even not contradict themselves in their own sentence: "I'm not saying those things are not welcomed, I couldn't care less about it, but the way people just pretend this is fine is fucking disgusting." This is someone who doesn't know how to make a point or is rambling about something that annoys t…
/r/seduction27/04/21 03:37 PM
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You mean telling people that they’re hopeless and lame and will never do well with seduction isn’t great advice? Man, and I’d taken out my notebook and everything.
/r/seduction27/04/21 12:42 PM
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This isn’t really a good example of their bias since they allow this since a bikini is proper attire for a pool/hot tub. I mean... can I take a camera onto a nude beach and stream? Don’t really see how the “environment” (a “hot tub” that appears to be a cheap prop in a room) that is fully under the streamer’s control should make a major difference.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 03:28 PM
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Doubtful anyone would try to prosecute to protect a man with this law anyway. The fucked up part is even if you got a conviction, it wouldn’t matter much, as so far courts have ruled that being raped as a child is no reason you can’t be forced to pay child support (to your rapist!?), even if you can prove the fact of your inability to consent because you were too young. Because, you know, the interests of the other child (because, remember, the “man” in this story is too young to consent) are de…
/r/MensRights22/04/21 05:40 PM
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It’a very telling that you think that’s an excuse. How about the massively disproportionate number of men who are killed in war vs. women? As usual, feminists advocate for all rights for women, but none of the responsibilities that come with them, nor any rights for men.
/r/MensRights20/04/21 12:26 AM
2

Google “no true Scotsman”.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 02:35 PM
3

Cool. Now point out the feminist organizations working to have the draft include women. I’ll wait.
/r/MensRights19/04/21 02:33 PM
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You start with the basics: gym, style, haircut, grooming, smell good/be clean. This sub communicates “I am a male with his shit together”. Competence is massively attractive to most women, and creepiness is not exactly the opposite of attractiveness, but you do get a LOT more forgiveness when you look like you intentionally made yourself look the way you look. It’s like two extra lives for when you accidentally set off her creepometer. Then you interact with her assertively, and just say what’s …
/r/seduction12/04/21 09:25 PM
1

Why would I want to “check bad behavior” for a guy? Because that’s what mature adults do in order to get along with each other? You will literally leave a man for any behavior he has that you don’t like, rather than tell him you don’t like it?
/r/seduction06/04/21 08:15 PM
1

Be charming and likeable. Shit, I knew I was forgetting to do something! Seriously though, this entire sub is (or should be anyway) about how to be charming. “Charming” is just a euphemism for “seductive and fun”. It’s as though you’re saying “have you tried having a skill you don’t have?” The rest of your advice is spot on.
/r/seduction06/04/21 08:12 PM
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Yep. You need to become a good option to spend time/attention on for her to have the best chance of spending any time on you. How? Create value for her, and remind her of something positive at the same time. Were you funny earlier? Add on to a joke that landed well. Have a nice chat about a band? Send her a song you like and tell her why you like it. Can’t think of anything positive that happened? Send a kitten doing something cute. Bitches love kittens (I mean, who doesn’t? Also, what’s the equ…
/r/seduction18/01/21 03:35 PM
4

About 90% of people online seem to have no idea what a “neg” is, including you apparently. Let me rephrase, since you’re the kind of person who uses “autist” non-ironically: ever had a girl like it when you teased her? Congratulations, you’re a PUA who “negs”. And, uh, yeah, reacting to shit tests as if they were a pure flirt is absolutely a normal PUA thing to do. Which you then say “just flirt”, uh, yeah, that’s what this whole PUA thing is about learning to do. Flirting. Your comment is so fu…
/r/seduction01/01/21 11:26 PM
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It’s kind of amazing how you simultaneously believe this is a bunch of crap that isn’t useful with your first example being “shit tests”, while also believing that shit tests are an accurate way of describing how many women flirt. Which is it? Probably every single fuckboy you know is doing most of what you describe in this very comment (well, sort of, it doesn’t sound like you understand this stuff very well at all, but yes, calibrated social contact, engaging her emotionally and playfully (neg…
/r/seduction01/01/21 11:06 PM
0

I’m sorry you’re spreading misinformation?
/r/seduction20/12/20 12:56 AM
1

Yeah, that’s nonsense. Go get one of each if you think they’re the same size. They are the same length and the same width at the base (the “54mm”); however, they do not fit the same at all, and the XL is noticeably larger in actual use. Having recently gone through a large condom sampler pack (online condom shopping rules, and yes I have a giant dong), I don’t know why you think any common “standard” condoms are as big either. Most of the “large/extra large” condoms from other manufacturers were…
/r/seduction19/12/20 09:32 PM
1

I’d bet she’s a woman with the benefit of youth to attract guys. Why be serious? Dates “just happen” (because of the “too serious” men who have figured out approaching women like her). She’ll be taking it seriously in 5-15 years.
/r/seduction18/12/20 06:18 PM
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Asking is a great way to make her feel safe. Not asking is a much better way (usually) to make her feel tingles. It’s a horribly ironic thing that most women like men who take risks. That said, it’s important to respect boundaries and to carefully observe her—if she pulls away, or looks uncomfortable in reaction to a touch, you have to back off. Edit: And it’s important not to go too fast. If it could be called a “grope”, you’re doing it very very wrong unless she’s comfortable with you and has …
/r/seduction11/11/20 07:46 PM
1

I really appreciate it. Thanks, that's nice to hear. :) but would it be wrong to get to know this person as a friend first and see where it works out from there? Of course not! Friends become lovers all the time. You're just limited to dating your social circle, which is much harder to grow than it is to get a guy on a date. Thing is, don't you basically want a non-partier stable long-term-focused geek boy? They (we, lol) aren't likely to have huge social circles or be expanding them right now. …
/r/seduction07/11/20 06:19 AM
1

It’s just hard cuz I feel like alot of guys in my city are all about playing around and just having sex so it’s hard to find someone who actually wants a serious relationship. The vast majority of men are driven for sex with many girls. It's wired into us. It's up to you to convince one that he should abandon that for just you--that's also wired into us, but it isn't nearly so easy as convincing a guy to have sex with you. Most men are open to sex with any reasonably non-crazy, reasonably attrac…
/r/seduction07/11/20 05:25 AM
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I have to get to know you first for at least 2 months or so before I make the decision whether I wanna go out on a date with you or not. Ah, yeah, so this isn't what I would call a "standard"; this is a screening mechanism. I understand the desire to feel safe and comfortable. It's perfectly valid and ok to take as much time as you want. However, it's also perfectly valid and ok for men to lose interest, or wind up in the beginnings of a relationship with someone else in that time (Indeed, I jus…
/r/seduction07/11/20 05:11 AM
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It’s entirely possible to have unrealistic standards that only serve the function of keeping you from whatever it is you’re looking for. I’d say do the math: put down a list of traits that are important to you, guess how common they are, multiply the percentages all together, then see how rare such a person would be: if it’s literally 1 in 1,000,000, you can choose a life of (probably) no partners, or you can lower your standards. Also, people often confuse “standards” with “screening methods”. …
/r/seduction07/11/20 01:27 AM
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Two things: do you like submissive men who will look to you, to, say, plan and pay for a date? Or do you prefer assertive, confident men? If you’re in the majority, you prefer a man with leadership qualities. Consider why that is. Otherwise, you should realize you’re in the minority (and that’s totally ok and valid! there’s also a minority of men who are very much “followers”, so to speak). I do agree it was inappropriate to label all women like that, and “followers” isn’t an amazing word choice…
/r/seduction06/11/20 08:40 PM
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So like, what the hell is the reason to go to the extra work to add “/femoids”? It’s needlessly snotty, and reinforces socially uncalibrated language in your mind. Yes, of course women enjoy the product of the gym: a physically attractive partner. That said, if you think it’s just that, explain the physically attractive guys without confidence that have trouble with women.
/r/seduction06/11/20 02:46 PM
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Yeah, it sounds like FDS stuff. In that world, a man who doesn’t take a woman for dinner and pay is a “LVM” that’s not worth dating.
/r/seduction20/10/20 06:36 PM
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To clarify, you ask if the body language is sufficiently ambiguous. Not cool to be kissing women who aren’t consenting. That said, if you follow the “get close, triangle gaze, wait” advice, you’ll usually get a clear answer in body language (moves away, or parts lips and closes eyes).
/r/seduction30/09/20 02:39 AM
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Finally, some quality content on here. Much love buddy.
/r/seduction30/09/20 02:37 AM
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no that’s not at all how we feel and then them getting shut down left and right and then a bunch of guys wondering why they can’t get fucking laid. Your insight into your own behavior and emotional state sucks. Sorry, but it does. That isn't because you're a woman, it's because you're a human. We all engage in posthoc rationalization and other forms of story-telling to ourselves. Also, being a woman doesn't mean you get the same experience or have the same reactions as other women, and your mech…
/r/seduction26/09/20 11:26 PM
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Probably we're thinking of different stages/types of engagement. I'm thinking of time in dating site/app message land these days. (I live in an area full of COVID, so I don't think it's appropriate to go to large gatherings of people, but I think 1-1 time in person is a reasonably small risk, so I'm doing online-only.) In that realm for straight men, it's a tricky balance of keeping attention, driving the interaction forward, while not overstepping unspoken boundaries and not turning into a clow…
/r/seduction26/09/20 11:05 PM
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But I’ll come back later with an assload of sources:research that disputes this outright and shows that attraction has just as much to do with psychological influences by our parents and patterns and other xyz’s... Looking forward to it. :) Remember though, I am not claiming attraction isn't highly subjective, complex, and highly variable at an individual level. Indeed, I would say attraction for women is typically not primarily about physical attraction once an interaction has gone on long enou…
/r/seduction25/09/20 05:04 PM
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I could give a shit about “upper body strength” and I’m confused as to why you are buying into these sweeping generalizations. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819 From that study: For each female rater, we computed the correlation between her ratings of the men's attractiveness and the men's actual physical strength (as measured in the original studies, table 1). These correlations were examined to see if any women in our samples showed a significant preference for weak…
/r/seduction25/09/20 04:34 PM
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It’s so multidimensional and nuanced and personal I have no idea why people are constantly arguing about it in here. You're wondering why people are arguing about attractiveness on the seduction subreddit? Of course attraction is subjective, but there are also objective things you can say about subjective things. There are also things one can do to increase attractiveness to nearly all people, which is close enough to objective that its subjective nature doesn't matter very much. For example, ne…
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:33 PM
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You're responding to a creation in your head of what I said, not what I said. I'm happy to engage if you have actual, specific criticism. Nothing about what I said suggests lesbians don't exist; I rather carefully worded what I said to avoid assuming the sexual orientation of anyone actually.
/r/seduction24/09/20 10:08 PM
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There’s no obvious line between “manipulative”, “charming”, and “seductive”, other than intent. We label things “manipulative” when we don’t like the intent of the actor. If someone gets advice from a friend “being a rose on a date, women like that”, what is that? How about “make sure to back off if a woman declines a sexual advance, she won’t appreciate you being persistent in that moment”, what is that? How about “talk about your passions, women love guys with passion”? How about “wait a while…
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:29 PM
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I’m slightly shy and anxious around new people; used to be very much so. Overcoming that involves explicitly not acting like my normal self, pushing myself to be more gregarious, to speak up when I don’t feel like it, and this results in dramatically improved social interactions. If you are about to say “well that’s just what I mean”, then your advice has no content at all, it’s basically “act like yourself except those parts where you shouldn’t”.
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:19 PM
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You are expressing the stereotypical BS of “just be yourself”. Then you say “assume familiarity”. Assuming familiarity isn’t “just being yourself”. Yes, it is good to be comfortable/confident and to show your personality. Yes, sometimes that will work out. Most of the time, particularly with women who get a lot of male attention, it will bore her.
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:10 PM
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OP is almost certainly a woman who has never tried to interact as a romantic prospect for women, and thus has no idea what it’s like. This advice is kinda good for women who don’t want to approach men (in that scenario, focus on improving your looks and first impression for sure), but for men it’s ludicrously bad advice. It resonates with the women on here, though, because women often perceive men learning social skills as “tricking” them (a “real” high quality man would’ve just picked up those …
/r/seduction24/09/20 05:04 PM
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“The only things that matter are looks and first impression” is demonstrably wrong (so no one’s ever had a second date go poorly? no one ever matches online and has the conversation fizzle? no one has the experience of being uninterested in a person at first and then becoming attracted once you know more about them?), and it’s ludicrous that this sub has so many people saying such obviously false drivel. Even the rest of OP’s post contradicts that idea, and somehow it gets lots of upvotes.
/r/seduction24/09/20 04:41 PM
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If she's not into you, nothing will work, and if she is into, almost everything will work So your argument is basically "women don't care about behavior almost at all". I'm not sure where to even start at showing that that's ridiculous. Have you ever heard the term "suave" as a positive label for men? Have you ever heard a story from a woman where she was not initially attracted, but then became so? Does the phrase "he was so seductive" mean the exact same thing as "he was so good-looking" to yo…
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:41 PM
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How do you know it cheated? How do you know it deliberately went out of it's way to find a glitch in the game? They don't, and almost certainly aren't claiming anything about intention. I don't know what research group you're talking about, but the claim, if stated precisely, would likely be something like "this AI didn't follow the rules we thought we'd laid out for it, because it found a flaw in the logic we wrote to validate actions in the game; it was better at finding loopholes in the rules…
/r/MensRights04/08/20 05:47 PM
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I think this borders on an almost arrogance about the creation of AI, You can think that, but I'm talking about current state technology. This is a very normal machine learning classification problem. You seem to be going from heuristic based "AIs", which don't adapt without a programmer, as you say, to generalizable AI, which is future tech. I'm talking about current machine learning approaches like used in the study gimme_the_loot was talking about, which absolutely adapt without a programmer …
/r/MensRights04/08/20 05:32 PM
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AI's can't adapt very easily. AIs based on machine learning are very, very good at adapting (assuming you're continuously training it). What aren't good at adapting are "AI"s that are actually just collections of rules for what to do in what scenario, like many game bots.
/r/MensRights04/08/20 05:05 PM
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Most women do not seek out relationships bases on pure shallowness (looks/money) unless they are forced to for survival (living in a very poor country and not having access to education or means of earning an income besides marriage). It's kind of unclear what you're arguing with here; TRP absolutely suggests one of the most relevant factors for attraction is behavior. As someone that observed both relationships, this one is far healthier for my sister. Glad to hear it! But that doesn't mean you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:07 PM
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Ok, so the average woman is also overweight. Is that who men are interested in dating, on average? Not maximally interested, no, but that's not relevant to what we've been talking about. Men's ratings of women's looks are well-matched to the population's ranking; if many men rate a woman as "average", it means she's probably near the 50th percentile. The basic idea here is that due to perceptual differences, if a guy truthfully says "I'm ok with an average looking girl", he actually is, while a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 05:24 PM
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Every study I've seen on this topic shows than women, on average, perceive well over 50% of men as "below average" in looks. One potentially useful yardstick is to ask yourself whether you picture the average man as overweight--statistically, he should be, assuming you're in the US. Figures vary, but generally if a man was rated as "average", that means he was roughly in the 80th percentile of attractiveness among the male population, as rated on average by women. These data aren't amazing in qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:51 PM
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Does this also apply to men? No, it's just bad advice. You may be bad at reading him (are you an anxious person?). He may be giving mixed signals. In either case, you might be confused but he may really like you. As for the man, he probably isn't sure himself right now. 2 months in? Have you had an explicit talk about being exclusive? That will help figure out where you're at.
/r/seduction21/07/20 04:12 AM
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Why is this getting downvoted it is true. It doesn’t matter what you say if she is not attracted to you Because it isn't true. Yes, it is possible to be SO unattractive physically to someone that what you convey otherwise makes little difference. However, particularly for women rating men, "attractive" includes things entirely within your control as that man, that have nothing to do with being a physical specimen, and everything to do with revealing your character: Body language Is he standing u…
/r/seduction16/07/20 11:05 PM
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