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I’m a feminist. No disguise lol. Feminists generally care for men’s rights. I’m thinking maybe you’re young and I’ll not be so hard on you. I’m good. Thanks for your heartfelt concern tho. The hero we didn’t ask for and don’t deserve!
/r/MensRights27/12/23 05:35 PM
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You’re right. Small minds require fewer words haha. Good luck friend.
/r/MensRights27/12/23 09:41 AM
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Also. You might like the subreddit passport bros. It might help you feel better in the meantime until we get our differences figured out in the States. Sadly it seems a long way off! It’s essentially a world tour of women who have no financial independence and who must rely on men. You’ll feel the warm fuzzies much more than getting a therapist. It might bother you that maybe those women don’t quite love you, the same way maybe women in strip clubs might not be feeling true love. But if that par…
/r/MensRights27/12/23 06:29 AM
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I’m not here to bring joy and I have no idea why you’re being so defensive? Yes, men do dirty hard work that we cannot do. Did I somehow make you think I believed we could? Did I say that and you misunderstood? Maybe I wasn’t clear. While we are grateful, often it is women’s work that enables men time to perform these necessary jobs to society. Hence, women’s work, even if it isn’t in the workplace is essential. So taking some women out of the workplace may not make much of a dent? But taking th…
/r/MensRights27/12/23 06:18 AM
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Nope, I just took ownership of us being the problem. Stone us, burn us, rape us, do your worst. I seriously just opened with an olive branch. The health of man is the health of all mankind. Your physical and emotional health is essential to all of us. I admire and respect men. But I’ll see myself out of this particular conversation.
/r/MensRights27/12/23 05:35 AM
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I’ll read the room and see my way out. Rational discourse is lost here. Nothing fruitful will come of it. Stone me I guess.
/r/MensRights27/12/23 02:43 AM
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Bet they weren’t teachers, nurses, daycare workers. Part of the reason men are able to have essential jobs is women are at home doing “women’s work.” Unless maybe you are talking about a childless society? This sub is supposedly for men’s rights but seems actually to be anti-woman. It’s frustrating to me bc I fight for men’s rights too. Oppression is tough to deal with, and men shouldn’t have to face it either.
/r/MensRights26/12/23 11:58 PM
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There’s a whole Bible story abt it. The prodigal son. But I think it’s important to realize that human beings (not just women) tend to feel at ease and calm when people are just themselves. When they don’t think too hard or try too hard. When they aren’t too calculating. I’ve noticed this in work settings and in romantic relationships (men, women, homosexuals, bi, trans, whatever.) People tend to trust other people who are most honestly themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:40 PM
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Hmmm. Idk anything about that. It’s just a deal breaker if a man I meet doesn’t think it’s important for women to have equal rights and agency of her own body. They aren’t obnoxious about it, it’s just a simple fundamental part of their belief system. Do you think there’s a “tell” of some kind? I just listen for sexist statements and I’m out at the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:44 AM
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Some feminist men, believe it or not, aren’t “pick me bitches.” Some are just humans who care about human rights. They’re brave and sharp, and I would never date a non-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:42 AM
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That part is true. We don’t have as big of muscles or a long history of violence. If we had muscles, I’m sure we’d be more violent. We have to play on other skills to exert power in situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:23 AM
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You’re right. I don’t scare people haha. Sorry that you do? Maybe there are some ways to not be rude or scary you could explore. And yes you’re right. I don’t think every man’s words carry weight. I am aware that our culture tends to think that, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:08 AM
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In my field, if I want my word to carry weight, I go get our male secretary to deliver the news if I’m not being listened to. So I think “normal human being” doesn’t make sense to you bc you’re probably often treated like a normal human being. When you’re not, you notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:46 AM
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I’m a strong feminist and I love feminist men. I think most of us do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:42 AM
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I denounce it bc it hits me in the feels, yes! I have a nephew and I worry abt him often. I also have two daughters and I worry they’re going to have to endure some lowlife like this. If I’m falsely interpreting, please explain so I can better understand. People overuse strawman. It’s a favorite word in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:07 PM
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I guess it’s too complex for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:05 PM
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Well, as a self appointed representative of every man on earth, what can I possibly say here? If you know all the men and what they think then there can be no fruitful discussion. You’re convinced your laughable theory is truth. I sense a near religious fervor here. A cultish devotion. I can’t argue with an unreasonable, emotional man, “man who likes to argue.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:57 PM
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They denounce it bc it’s childish and sounds ignorant. And public opinion is against it. It’s like Nazis who say they aren’t Nazis. But they adhere to many of the tenets and their followers are often incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:25 PM
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But they are redpill heros. I’m just saying that even if someone doesn’t say “I’m red pilled” (maybe bc that sounds like something 15 year olds say), there are still red pilled men. But you overstate how many men are like this. This is for teenagers mostly, or men in their younger 20’s who just haven’t lived life yet. And Tate and JP make a lot of $ from their fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:55 PM
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Check, check, and check. You read and repeated the playbook accurately. Zzzzzz.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:50 AM
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It’s bc Tate and JP aren’t idiots and even broken clocks are right sometimes. They’re totally misguided, fearful, and make wild assumptions, but they’re not idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 12:47 AM
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I know we have more freedoms, but we have more responsibilities too. “Better” is hard to measure, of course. And yes, I’m very happy we aren’t being beaten as regularly! We appreciate that!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 01:49 AM
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How is it helpful? Just curious, bc as an avid fapper, I’d like to know where I’ve gone wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:34 AM
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Listen. No fap is unnecessary. The terrible outcome of porn is men develop no sexual imagination. I’m Gen X. Older men who predate incessant porn had to lie there and imagine. Masturbation isn’t the problem. It’s failure of imagination due to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:37 AM
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Some men like shallow women. Some men don’t. It’s a good enough as any other way to gauge that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 06:42 AM
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Oh. For some reason I thought we were talking about insincerity in dating. If we are talking about men’s loneliness, then yes, as part of our shared humanity, I believe it’s an incredibly important topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:12 PM
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Listening to men blame all their problems on women is a pity. A damn shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:08 PM
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Good people with a reliable paycheck? Hell yes. Assholes pretending to be decent people is what no one likes. No one. It’s not even gendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:51 PM
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It’s at least honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:28 AM
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I wasn’t talking about snap judgments. I’m talking about actually dating someone who seems genuine at first. I guess what I mean is we never love others because of their good behavior. Good behavior earns nothing but maybe a paycheck. Good behavior is pleasant, but it’s not why human beings fall in love. It’s far preferable for people to be honest assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:27 AM
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I wasn’t talking about a sixth sense? I was talking about dating people who seem lovely at first and then are frauds. People, not only women, don’t like frauds. And yet you know they walk among us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:11 AM
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Agree. If you’re trying to be wholesome and good just to get in someone’s pants, she will know the difference. Insincerity is a huge turn off. Actually being kind is extremely attractive, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:43 PM
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And I guess you mean dressing like you’re single implies that women are dressing a certain way only to snag a man, versus how women simply like to dress. If you don’t want a woman who dresses like that, don’t date one. That’s it. There’s no need to revise our wardrobes once you enter our lives. Date Amish women and leave us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:26 AM
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I wasn’t referring to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:49 PM
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They need to date Amish women. Why are they so angry at western women? They should just stay away from us rather than spend so much time hating us. Just … go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:44 PM
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I know several men who didn’t actually want custody, but to save face in public, they tell others they lost custody. Surely these aren’t isolated incidents, and it’s possibly things like this that make it harder for these myths to disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 01:25 AM
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Why do we want so many of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:53 PM
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I think wealth inequality is particularly high right now? I think that’s a societal reason that birth rates would decline. No need to blame the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:35 PM

Fascinating. We still have a built in way to relieve the situation. When we are hungry, we prefer steak, but we will settle for rice and beans. That’s how life is. Women have learned this. Men are only now learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:36 PM

We all have dry spells and can masturbate. Like … it’s a built in feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:27 PM
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About 6 months, almost died.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:26 PM
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Is there a rule saying no other people are allowed to have emotions? I missed that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:00 PM
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Bc men are sexy and we like them and enjoy their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 09:43 PM
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It is linked, yes. But there’s no evidence that more equals higher sex drive (there’s only evidence that low T men have lower sex drive.) If you took more testosterone than you already have, it would not make you suuuuuper hornyman. Any certainty that men’s sex drive is higher than women’s has been vague and inconclusive. I’m not sure what the redpill community stands to gain by such emphatic claims that women don’t have the sex drive men do. But the myth won’t die.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 04:25 PM
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You don’t mean pre-Christian civilizations or American Indian and maybe you don’t mean Cleopatra, who was one of the greatest leaders of western Civ? “Only until modern times was it questioned and changed …” That’s a wild statement. It wasn’t until the dawn of Christianity that women were so deeply shamed for having a libido. In fact, the whole religion is constructed on the shame of Eve and the destruction of Paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:12 AM
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Sorry. I didn’t mean narcissism in the modern buzzword type of way. That was probably misleading. And yes, love and sex is always at odds with an orderly society. Just as God is at odds with dogma. It’s just the way it is. I could go on, but I think we fundamentally disagree and there isn’t much point. I hear what you’re saying though. It’s repeated often in this subreddit. Almost like a playbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:11 PM
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Check out the subreddit. Plenty of examples!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:12 PM

Yes. There’s no shortage of males willing to “help” women correct their view of reality for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:13 PM
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Manipulative, calculating women who pretend to be one thing but are really another. There’s a subreddit dedicated to “nice girls.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:37 PM

Yes, I would agree 😂 Someone seems uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:14 PM

I see. So you’re the woman representative? We should come to you so we can know how we feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:03 PM
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Listen, all human beings, men and women, like to be around people who are living securely in the moment. It puts everyone at ease and might even feel fun. Narcissism (the double edged sword of being painfully self aware, with alternating feelings of pride and shame) is unappealing. Lots of “nice guys” and “nice girls” tend to be neurotic, narcissistic, and calculating. I do think there is hope and growth from these states, but people enjoy being around others who are more at ease with themselves…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:50 PM
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Speak for yourself, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:40 PM
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I guess the part that isn’t being mentioned for some reason is that many women love sex and love to have orgasms. They’re not having sex to feel “empowered” or to further some mysterious feminine agenda. They’re having sex to get off. Let’s let them, yeah? Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:21 AM
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Or this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:36 PM
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It’s interesting to read abt the “Madonna-whore complex.” Just a brief skim of wiki will give you the gist. I’m not sure how much weight I give to psychoanalysis, but it does seem like I see it over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:38 AM

“Vague platitudes” is to avoid retaliation. It’s about safety, beyond just physical! Your points could easily be about men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:11 PM
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You’re busy preaching “the word” of this sub. Sometimes it’s worse than Bible thumpers speaking for everyone else’s reality. Carry on, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:31 AM
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Thoroughly disproven nonsense and here you are speaking for all of North America.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:06 AM
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You’re correct. Women don’t like weak men and men don’t like weak women. *submissive or emotional does not equal weak
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:34 AM
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Look, if your role is that of a parent, you can absolutely show your emotions, but not at the expense of that role. It’s imperative to perform. Stumbling is ok, but the important part is to continue to parent. It’s the same with husbands and wives (or the potential thereof). We can stumble and show emotion, of course. But the primary reason for being in this role is to be someone the other can rely on. It’s a partnership through life, even if it doesn’t last a lifetime. If you just lose your shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:30 AM
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Average Joes naturally have humility. It’s an extremely comforting and attractive quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:15 AM
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I figured you’d disagree with my statement haha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:41 AM
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What do we call women who like sex in this society? Any words come to mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:36 AM
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My argument is that you could hear directly from all women and no matter what their actual experience or evidence provided, you’ll still believe you’re correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:33 AM
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Interesting take. I’m a woman and I love orgasms. I don’t know how to make it any plainer. No hidden motive here, I literally love to have orgasms and will actively seek situations that will improve my chances of having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:21 AM
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I just think it’s kind of funny that this sub is mostly men speaking for women and stating what motivates them and how they feel. Strange little echo chamber at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:39 PM
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I didn’t know that abt sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:07 PM
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I’m 100% a feminist, but I lurk here cause y’all make some good points sometimes!
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 03:47 PM
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My bad. Usually when a man says he likes sex positive women, the incels typically accuse him of cuckoldry. It’s a script I see over and over, so you see why I might draw that conclusion.
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 03:14 PM
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You can be anti-feminist but not have an incel mindset, ftr.
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 05:26 AM
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Interesting observation. Kind of want to put it in my pocket and think on it awhile. Thanks for sharing that insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:01 AM
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I’d continue the convo, but I already know the outcome of arguing with a man who thinks he knows everything. I could beat my head into a wall and enjoy it more. So carry on, my friend! Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:53 PM
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This is what I’m talking about. Read the science, it makes your opinion irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 03:46 PM
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This has been thoroughly debunked. Most women have a very high sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:33 AM
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People are more than just flags and holes. And sex is more than just friction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:12 AM
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That last line sort of rolled out like you mumble it to yourself walking away from tough conversations. Of course women want tall sexy men. Why is it noteworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:00 AM
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I just mean that’s why you generally hear of women taking men’s wealth. Women didn’t have it to take. I think it’s changing tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:39 AM
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Right. I think gender wealth inequality is also at play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:25 AM
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Divorce laws being tilted in wife’s favor. I know they for sure used to be, but I thought this had changed quite a bit. Do you have a source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:21 AM
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Seriously. I think it’s bc RP appeals to primarily younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 02:57 AM

Men are encouraged to STEM careers (humanities are often missing in the curriculum), so they are sometimes relatively uneducated on the history of civil/human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:20 PM
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Hmmm. Men are very attractive to me. In fact, there’s nothing better. Given a beautiful sunset, pistachio ice cream in a waffle cone, and an afternoon with a man? I’d choose the man every single time. Sorry abt the lying. Sometimes men kill us or beat us, and/or society shuns us so we lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:49 PM
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Oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:22 PM
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We are also broke. Everyone. Grandparents are working or are sick from overwork. There’s no one to keep the sense of family/community bc they have to clock in somewhere to get medical care or they die.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:05 PM
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It’s tricky bc I know men find it hard to believe, but women, not only me, but MANY of the women I know have an incredibly high sex drive. But if we act on it, we are called whores and charged with causing the disintegration of society. So it puts the ladies in a tough spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:56 PM
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Nature is always mysterious. There are always more things to learn and more wonder to be wondered. Surely, even you who think that perhaps you know all there is to know about nature, love, men and women, surely you have some tucked away piece of your heart that knows you don’t have the answers and there are more things in life than you’ve yet even dreamt of.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 06:23 PM
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It’s a mutual experience. We don’t control it. We can say yes or no, just as men can say yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:25 PM
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Sorry to offend. I’m not saying he’s even wrong. I can’t speak for nature. It’s mysterious to most of us. Fascinating and mysterious. Only men say things like “women control access to men …” and so on. I never see a woman do this, so it’s just hilarious the men here taking themselves so seriously and considering themselves the ideal mouthpiece for Nature and the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:19 AM
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And here we have a mansplanation of nature itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:23 PM
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Can’t speak for feminists, but feminism just wants equality for women. That’s it. The whole thing. Some women like gender roles, and in the spirit of equality, if that’s what they like, then by all means, that’s how they should live. And I understand that people can carry weapons that would make them scary, but men are physically stronger than women. That’s all I’m saying. And it’s just something to be aware of. You’re adding a lot to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:39 PM
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Feminism doesn’t deny gender roles. And large men are weapons if they want to be. So it can be a scary feeling. An analogy might be for you to be around someone with a gun. While they might be great and you’re even getting to trust them, you never forget they have a gun. And yes, fellow human, I hear you and recognize your humanity. I do think it’s a good point that we should be listening to men and what their frustrations are, especially since a subset of them seem to be gravitating to red pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:53 AM
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Feminism recognizes and fights against widespread systemic oppression of women. Women had to fight to be considered a full human (and not just a lady in waiting for men). TRP is general male frustration, but there are no rights to fight and die over. So while yes, I do think victim mentality could be present in both groups, I think it provides the basis for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:49 AM
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I just said people from all walks of life engage in it. Feminists do it (and it’s a movement I approve of). All oppressed people do it. Teenagers do it. I’m not above it either! Self pity happens. It’s all good. But it is fuel for cults like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:30 AM
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The choices aren’t mutually exclusive. I can attempt to change it and also deal with what I can’t control. I don’t think most people in the world engage in victim mentality, but I do think it’s foundational to the red pill movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:22 AM
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I’m a feminist through and through, but I know what you mean. Some ways of thinking run so deep it’s hard for people to think outside of it. I do think red pill philosophy responds to some weakness/insecurity. But when the insecurity passes, and it will, so will that philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:20 AM
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I don’t “reward” people with victim mentality versus real victim status. I don’t carry medals around. But I have met people from all walks of life who tend to ruminate on all the ways they perceive that life has slighted them. That women couldn’t vote or own property or credit cards (until 1974!) is just facts. They are raped and called whores and made to carry pregnancies, even when they are children themselves. And they get beaten and killed by men. I don’t think it has anything to do with a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:03 AM
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You make some good points, Applesauce. I mean, I know that red pill philosophy is anemic and short sighted. I know people will grow out of it with life experience. But as a salve until wisdom comes, I kind of get it in a way. Or I can at least understand it as a result of frustration in life. But while I believe in the 1% hoarding all the monetary wealth in the nation, it’s hard for me to believe there is a 1% man club of chiseled white Brads taking all the women. Maybe I just know too many marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:49 AM
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Do you ever wonder if struggle is just normal life, and the illusion of the 1% getting all the ladies is contrived in some way? Or isn’t the complete truth? Most of us aren’t the 1% but not everyone goes red pill. Is there a particular attraction for those who tend to engage in victim mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:11 AM
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I don’t think those women are thinking about the men’s opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:22 AM
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Capitalism takes everything of true value (love, kindness, clean water, child rearing, beauty, sex) and puts a price on it. It’s literally making us a sick society. It’s not men or women doing it, we are all victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:35 AM
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People who aren’t parents really overestimate what you can do as a parent. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:53 AM
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There’s always been an elite group with a greater share of resources. But what does this 1% of people have to do with the rest of us? What does it have to do with me? Who cares what the Chads and Stacys are doing? The vast majority of all of humanity isn’t Chad and Stacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:50 AM
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I absolutely believe that the majority of women prefer white attractive men. That’s typical considering it’s white men who run the world. Typical of power structures. Makes total sense. Of course it’s so. But that the rest of us who aren’t white men have no chance in the world at finding love and happiness? That’s ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:19 AM
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You created a dating profile and somehow have applied this singular experience to ALL women. You’re like the people who deny global warming because “mah backyard has snow in it.” What you are is confused. And this conversation has grown boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:03 AM
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This isn’t even an actual opinion anymore. It’s just a well-wrung, wet piece of toilet paper you guys keep reusing. It’s become a slogan for men who can’t do their own thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 11:55 PM
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Same goes for men right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:50 AM
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Maybe bc though we have come a long way, we have a long way yet to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:30 PM
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Numerous times. Why??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:25 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:25 AM
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The men I want aren’t asking me to marry them bc I purposefully keep my distance. While I love the company, and am even in love, I’m not sure I want marriage. It’s a big step. And I can be vague when necessary, and warm and loving when necessary to keep the question in the air and out of my ear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:24 AM
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Of course not. You’re a sexual being. There isn’t an off switch. BUT you can take some time to yourself and explore your strengths and limitations as a person and develop some hobbies and a full vital life within your community. No need to wait on a woman, but one might appear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:33 AM
2

I have to recharge and replenish after social interactions. So while I engage with others (and even enjoy it sometimes!), I will feel depleted and generally down if I don’t make time to recharge! And I tend to love indoor recess activities like reading and writing, chess, movies, gardening, that sort of thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 02:33 PM
2

I’m introverted. There are plenty of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:59 AM
2

Is this a problem that needs fixing? Is it something women could do something about even if they wanted to? Would men want them to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:58 AM
9

You act like men are offing themselves left and right, while a tiny percentage of men are actually committing suicide. And women attempt suicide more often but use less lethal methods like pills. The fact that men have greater access and knowledge of guns is relevant here as well. Not to mention, attributing male suicide to distress in the dating game is overstatement. Do you have a source or is this your assumption? And pardon, I didn’t mean to stoke any blazing misogyny brushfires, but I belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:57 AM
3

Yes. The rich get richer every day. Most of us are not in that 1% of the population. And honestly … do you want to be? Would that suit this group? To just be rich and exploit your fellow man? To have the most stuff and the most ladies? Your only contribution to the world would be to take from it. I’m not shaming anyone for feeling like that, but then let’s call this sub what it is … bitter and small-minded. A damn shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:33 AM
11

It’s a legitimate option! Yes, society shames them, but society shames women for being too sexual or not sexual enough or having the wrong attire or not having big enough boobs. I mean come on. Is this a serious stance? That the women are hooking up with Chads only, and the Chads are sucking up all the fun in the room? It’s such a self-pitying, no way to win so I’ll just stop trying way to look at life. It’s just … far removed from reality. It’s almost hilarious. There’s just no way that the Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:28 AM
9

Not everyone can be an alpha. It’s statistically impossible. So are you saying that if you’re not in that select 1% of men then you’ll never have happiness? Only alphas are happy? This is just so wrong and impossible and nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:09 AM
10

Women can also be ugly, poor, short, introverted. The disintegration of society has a huge impact on our sexual health as a whole. And the disintegration of society is not due to a bunch of whores, though this sub does seems to think so. It’s not only happening to men. It’s like everyone has the flu, but there’s a group of men who think it’s worse for them than everyone else. Man flu I guess? It also seems like the men on this sub tend to say they want loyalty and modesty, chastity, kindness, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:07 AM
1

Apparently you support Alex Jones. (Epstein’s activity was well known, but he had threatened people to keep them quiet, I guess Jones had enough disciples by that point that he could afford to speak up maybe. Either way, I guess you’re one of them!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:36 PM
0

Yeah I think a lot of people knew about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 08:19 PM
1

You sound like one of those guys who say “oh you’re so beautiful, the sweetest and kindest and most amazing!” And then when she says she’s not interested you call her a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:15 PM
1

I just mean if you pay a lot for a pile of shit, it’s still a pile of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:13 PM
1

Yes, I think like a lot of generally unrealistic things, it sounds great!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:36 PM
1

I’m not sure why we equate marriage with success. Or why we call it a “failed” marriage. Marriage is hard. Maybe it will stop being a life goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:02 PM
1

Also, pricey does not equal valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 03:06 PM
1

Valuable beyond being popular with monkeys. I mean valuable to Americans in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:20 PM
17

Like Alex Jones. Just bc millions of people fully believed him and loved what he had to say and his pockets got fat … does not mean what he said was valuable or true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:07 PM
-1

Yes! Life imitates art as they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:32 AM
1

I’m a feminist, and I think it was well done. The patriarchy hurts men in exactly the ways you’re describing, and I hope you share it far and wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:32 AM
1

Oh. Sounds like you’re saying jealousy serves a higher purpose, or to promote genetic fitness or something. Perhaps I misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:06 PM
3

Agreed. It’s always so crazy bc they can’t ALL be alphas. Statistically impossible, and yet they’re all pointing fingers at one another saying cuck!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:05 PM
3

Was it? Alright. Sounded a little not genuine and more like a veiled attempt at an insult. But fair enough, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:03 PM
1

I hear you. Feelings are important for the rest of your life! I hope you listen to yours in the future and that you have good ones!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:02 PM
1

“Men’s jealousy evolved to increase genetic fitness …” From what I understand, diversity promotes genetic fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:27 PM
1

Feelings are stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:24 PM
10

I don’t understand why y’all can’t wait to call each other cucks. Why??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 06:22 PM
2

This sounds like a baseless theory. Is it yours? I only say that bc sex is often performative for a lot of people. Kink is ok and isn’t pathological.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:33 PM
3

Do you support trump too? Same type of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:51 PM
5

I’m curious why the red pilled men don’t try dating within religious circles. Like evangelicals? Isn’t that more the type of woman they are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:37 AM
5

I work in a hospital, that’s just not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 06:11 PM
4

And hot chip! I think this sub goes after a certain type of woman. Like punching your own selves in the face!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:08 PM
5

Maybe society is sick and we need to change some things!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:16 AM
1

“Divorce raped” … y’all should listen to reality and not each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:09 PM
1

Pretty sure it just came across gross when he was saying things like “open ended questions” and where to sit. Sounded like someone preying on something. It’s nice just to sit and chat and see if chemistry develops.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:42 AM
1

I know the people on this sub love to believe that, but the facts don’t back it up. It’s a grievance rooted in emotion and not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:48 AM
1

Okay. I think most people hold a lot of love, respect, admiration for step dads, but not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:28 PM
-5

I’m “shilling” for honesty and bravery. And keep pretending you’re not amazing on the inside by hiding it under these smarmy behaviors. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:16 AM
-7

“Let’s take what a woman says and call it emotional nonsense so that we can loudly state we are the logical gender.” Insecure man moment. Like a little napoleon. I’m saying bravery and honesty are far more attractive than meat-headed parades of alphas. The most hysterical part of the sweeping masses of alphas is that it’s statistically impossible … you can’t all be alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:54 PM
0

Stripped of wealth. Y’all are no better than literal pillheads when it comes to assessing reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:51 PM
-4

One of the finest men I know fessed up to being a cuckold. He’s perfectly content taking care of others’ babies. It’s brave and attractive when men own up to who they are and just be. So much sexier than this tsunami of young men vying to call themselves alpha, despite evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:49 PM
1

You’re telling it as YOU see it. Which is likely from a 20 something white guy’s viewpoint. Stop relying on women for validation. That can only come from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:43 PM
1

I already do things myself. You’re basically just whining. This is a long whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:05 PM
1

I think your idea and my idea of “natural” position might be different. I guess y’all should go tell your daddies that the chattel aren’t behaving. Why complain to the chattel?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:33 PM
1

What does leading the relationship mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:55 PM
1

You sound like a middle manager who thinks he’s actually in charge. Try to just chill. No one is asking or expecting that you lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:55 PM
14

Zzzz. “Men lead the relationship” … it’s so typical of red pilled men to assume they’re the natural leaders while simultaneously saying it’s someone else’s fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:12 PM
1

Can we rename this subreddit to “what women want” and have baffled responses by men professing to know, like this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:37 AM
3

It’s unique to your gender to “believe” things about our gender and feel a sense of authority from your own thoughts. Can you understand how other brains are not ordered that way? That other people don’t automatically assume themselves to be an authority on another race or gender or culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:41 AM
2

What men want seems … irrelevant to what women should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:02 AM
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I think it tells us that they’re as interested as we are, but someone has to be the parent or the child is taken to the state. What I’m saying is that where dad’s don’t take responsibility, the mother then must.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:31 AM
1

There’s a long line of great minds who’ve wrestled the human condition and can help shed some light. HD Thoreau (who might have been MGTOW, hard to say!) has enough meat in his works to live a whole life by. I think Zen Buddhism is super interesting too. But lots of men came before us, reaching out to hand off the baton. And I don’t know of any whose entire philosophy was based in their response to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:56 AM
1

I get the gist. Carry on brother!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:17 PM
1

Hmm. Maybe you’re a younger man. I don’t know. But there are plenty of healthier and more accurate philosophies that help men improve and be honest with themselves besides red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:05 PM
2

I think you just demonstrated why people generally don’t like MGTOW. The self improvement is awesome! I love it! But the ideology is poisonous. It’s mostly younger men though, so I’m thinking they’ll grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:50 PM
1

Degeneration from what? Waiting a little later in one’s sexual maturity? Does capitalism have anything to do with it? Overwork? Poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:11 AM
2

I think whatever happens to be considered attractive during our formative years continues to be what we are attracted to!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 08:26 PM
1

Yep. That’s what we are doing! Change is slow. Cultural change especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:30 AM
1

Well I too would appreciate if men would stop with the benevolent sexism (like explaining my own tshirt to me) … but it continues. Pretty much everywhere we ladies go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:31 PM
1

Men enjoy explaining things. And there’s a sort of benevolent sexism used by women where we ask questions and let a man explain the whole complicated world to us. It greases social wheels, and women who do this are much more popular. This may also help explain what you’re experiencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:06 PM
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I see. I’ve noticed that men sometimes take a long time to explain things to me because they assume I don’t know the subject matter, and they think I’m kind of dumb (bc I have a vagina and all those chaotic hormones). They even have a word for it: Mansplaining. Once a man stopped me to explain the tshirt I was wearing. Thank goodness for his benevolent sexism, else I might still be wandering around confused by my own shirt! I’m not saying this is what’s happening in your world, the only other im…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 09:41 PM
8

Very high n count, no tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:17 AM
-2

SAHM aren’t born. They’re cultivated. Fucking stop already Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:10 AM
3

Ursula LeGuin does a great job addressing this in The Dispossessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:36 AM
1

Somehow I don’t believe you don’t know what red pill means. Keep on keeping on, brother. Wishing you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:42 AM
1

Dude. You’re red pilling yourself. Echo chamber. Try to talk to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 12:25 AM
2

How wet she got from that? If my man ran up on stage to be violent to someone, I would realize I was married to a hood rat and would gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:18 PM
1

There’s a lot of money to be made from making consumers feel like they have less than everyone else, and they are in some way inadequate. Deficient even. And that message is in our faces all day long, meaning our literal human habitat is designed to make us feel chronically empty and needy of some service or product, one that’s faster, stronger, better, crunchier, more herbs, less stress, whatever. Male culture is sort of rooted in competition (I hope that’s changing!), so maybe feelings of inad…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:25 AM
3

There’s cake?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 09:32 PM
65

Men are enough. They’re wonderful without trying too hard. And what’s happening to their gender seems to be a period of self doubt. Consumerism is the most likely cause imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 06:22 PM
9

Most people do not fit neatly. It’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 02:25 AM
8

I’m 47, and I have daughters. They’re badasses and I’m proud of them. Y’all have to deal with a LOT of shit. But you have every tool in your toolbox to deal with it and then some. There will be younger and older women who don’t support you. Just accept that as part of your landscape. But most of us are not only out here rooting for you but would give you the shirts off our backs. You all come from a long line of hard workers, nurturers, providers. Don’t feel alone for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:40 AM
1

Is that related? In any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:42 AM
-1

I didn’t paint or pretend anything at all. I just said that marriages were abusive. And “values” are men’s rules. Not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:41 AM
1

Party on, sis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:39 AM
1

No one is saying “promiscuity” (word reserved only for women) is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:37 AM
2

Yes, no one is comparing those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:34 AM
2

Funny how there’s always someone to victim blame. Except it’s so tired and not funny at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:57 PM
4

I see. Yes, I had to go back to work at 7 weeks postpartum, and I think that’s pretty standard. Would be great if our community invested more resources into mothering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:56 PM
0

Right. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:14 PM
1

That’s not gonna get them married? Who the fuck cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:07 PM
3

Why would we have to get some guy to provide? I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:07 PM
10

There’s a long history of men being unkind to women when monogamy was presented as the only path in life. So I think some of this is a response to years of abuse in some marriages. Not all marriages, obviously, but women have been oppressed for a long time (couldn’t even have a credit card until 1974, for example).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:06 PM
1

Just seems that incels really want others to be punished for all the sex they’re not having.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:11 PM
1

And sounds like we can count on you not making any.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:13 AM
1

Right. And I would limit sex, yes. But that’s bc I’m older now. When I was in my 20s, I doubt it would have affected me at all. The death penalty doesn’t deter crime, and I think it’s the same concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:02 PM
3

I would move. Or I would learn how to do it myself. I have daughters, and I’ll fight for abortion like I would fight for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:47 AM
2

Totally different? Since the dawn of man, this is the uniquest bunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:38 AM
5

Women have never stopped having sex. Women have sex before marriage, outside of marriage, inside of marriage, with married men sometimes. Women are just as rambunctious as men. This will not change, no matter how much you shame or try to control them. This is the way that life continues. Would like to point out that men are involved in the whole idea of sex and it’s not a female driven workforce out there. It’s people having sex. Not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:37 AM
6

You sound like a hoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:57 AM
9

“Personal urges.” It’s the greatest creative force of the universe and sometimes results in more life, despite our precautions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:08 AM
0

Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:56 PM

The beatings will continue, until morale improves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:25 PM
5

Until we reach age 30 or so, it’s all performance! Just practice maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:30 AM
0

… and because we live in a patriarchy, nobody wants to be seen as feminine, not even the women. Women trying to one arm pull up all over the place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:28 AM
-2

In all sincerity, I’m not sure if this is an attempt at wit or if you’re suggesting that women should display little man syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:27 AM
0

Overwhelming majority would never strike a woman, in front of anyone else, you mean. This is usually a private affair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:01 AM
1

Apparently the inability to see our own ridiculousness transcends gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:00 AM
-3

I was commenting on the ubiquity of male violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:37 AM
1

Ohhh. Like those ones who see snow in their backyard and claim to be an authority on global warming, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:35 AM
0

Is there any evidence you’d like to share that informs your opinion that the vast majority of women are cowardly? This sounds highly emotional and may be the result of some sort of tantrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:20 AM
-1

Exactly, damn! Wtf is this guy on about? Women have to walk to their cars at night, often alone. And we aren’t asking for medals. Men beat, rape, open their trench coats and brazenly show their little whirlybirds. Is this what is meant by bravery?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:14 AM
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The average man is braver than the average woman? By whose calculations? And what exactly do you mean? Do you measure bravery only by a willingness to be punched? Women are, generally speaking, the smaller, weaker sex. This is why we have mace and self defense classes, bc men often beat us. Bc they can. And they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 01:09 AM
0

There are some shitty people of both sexes out there. Stay away from them. And there’s no reason to call anyone the village bicycle. Anyone who uses terms like that isn’t actually a nice guy. An insincere nice guy is another way of saying bad guy. Insincerity is a major turn off. If you’re not a genuinely nice guy, pretending you are makes it so much worse. Just be who you are. It’s infinitely more attractive. I’m sorry you’re having a tough time, though. It’s rough out there sometimes. If you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:57 AM
1

Aren’t churches everywhere? Why don’t you date some church women? Is that what the whole issue is? Plenty of church ladies think the men should have the final word in the home, they think babies (especially white ones) are super important, they love Jesus. Would you consider dating someone you’d meet in church? Have you thought that maybe your own ideas align with those of the church and maybe you would find community there too? Edit to add that it seems like the red pilled men tend to like a ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:34 AM
0

So you think we should have a male-controlled society and sort of gaslight women by using different media images? Bc they’re so confused and impressionable and have no real sense of right and wrong? They have no real principles, after all. Just mindless baby makers, amiright? This sounds like a worse dystopia than the one we already live in. People in general are having less sex. Men and women. And it should concern us all, for the good of one another, that something in society is making us a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:25 AM
1

How do you get your equal to love you? That’s a question men AND women have tried to answer for ages. That’s why “love potions” have been made and advice columns for love and sex and all kinds of perfumes and musks … to attract and sustain the attention of your beloved. None of them recommend locking anyone up or punishing someone for not feeling the way you wish they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:11 AM
1

I really try to be sympathetic to what you guys are experiencing. But forced sex/relationships is never the answer. Men sometimes tend to stray, but women never suggest putting them under lock and key. Or shaming them so they can never show their faces again. Sex is wonderful, but no one is entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:48 AM
2

Makes no difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:22 AM
1

I see. To each their own, I guess. I wouldn’t like to have a relationship where my man is forced to be with me. Takes the fun out of it, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:20 AM
2

I prefer humor, depth, and presence of mind above anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:08 AM
1

Right. I’m just saying I don’t think it ever really worked. People want to enjoy the people they’re around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:07 AM
2

Neat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:00 AM
1

I can understand an emotional reaction, and maybe that’s all this is. But I really don’t think this is the dreamy sex life you imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:00 AM
2

What would this achieve for you? If you play this hypothetical all the way out to its nasty end, what joy would you experience by having a woman stuck in a kitchen somewhere so that you can have a long-deserved fuck at the end of the day? She still wouldn’t love you or want you, she would be coerced by negative consequences to please you. Rolling her eyes and praying for death the whole time, most likely. It seems terribly depressing and dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:40 AM
5

Fit, pleasant, and a good job are just bonuses. Most women want to want the man they’re with. I don’t personally know many sugar daddy/baby situations. I don’t know any women who fall in love with fit and pleasant and a 401k.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:32 AM
1

This is absurd. Women with a high n count are usually ogled extensively. Repulsive is the wrong word here. Whereas the Amish ladies waddle through unnoticed. Go chase some Amish pussy since you revere that sort of thing, and stop this whiny someone please suck me off bc I’m a big strong alpha boi bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:22 AM
3

You sound like one of those people who say global warming isn’t real cuz um, look in my backyard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:04 PM
3

Again, if you value the false currency of virginity, why don’t you change your dating pool a little and date religious women. Or, even southern women tend to place a high value on chastity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:21 AM
1

True kindness and generosity takes a fearlessness that’s not present in “nice guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:02 PM
3

My bad. Was referring generally to red pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:26 AM
2

I wonder if TRP men ever consider that women might enjoy honesty and presence of mind more than anything else. A “nice guy” who is making nice all the time isn’t attractive by anyone’s definition. Men don’t even like other men who do that, so I’m not sure why they would expect women to. It comes off as manipulative … and simpering. When men are just relaxed and being themselves, even if they don’t always do the “right” things, they’re much more attractive and likable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:26 AM

I don’t mind if you judge me. I too have ridden high horses, among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:53 PM

No Mariana trenches for my pristine pole! No way no how.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:50 PM
1

Do we ever call men promiscuous for having a normal sex life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 08:01 AM
9

I think when a man forgets himself and just acts boyishly, it’s the most attractive thing. When they just relax and enjoy themselves. There are external physical characteristics that make men attractive (like height and muscular forearms and beautiful eyes), but these are largely secondary. They’re a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 03:12 PM
5

I’m an older woman and I don’t think it’s so much that I’m “peaking” sexually, I think it’s that I’ve experienced less shame and am therefore more willing to enjoy sex. When you throw words around like “promiscuity” (only reserved for women) or slut or whore, you run the risk of dampening women’s sex drive for a long while. Maybe it seems like women peak in their later years, when it’s really just they finally feel comfortable expressing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:09 PM

Yes girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:37 AM
0

This is the bedtime story this group loves to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:42 PM
4

Hmmm. I don’t see men as full of shit. I see them as wonderful creatures that improve life immensely. Maybe red pill people can someday understand that women are valuable at the same time they improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:29 PM
5

Red pill has some good parts. The self improvement specifically. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater, as they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:13 PM
1

Nice insight!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:11 PM
5

Can you even hear us from up there?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 02:11 PM
13

Yes. It’s confusing bc the red pill men seem to want to shame high n count women, but they want to boost their own n count and avoid commitment. I think it’s a mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:06 PM
3

Yes, well, either way is fine. I think this post is talking about n count and its relation to infidelity, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:04 PM
2

Bad things? Idk what kind of sex you’ve been having, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:23 AM
3

Haha! Good to know! Maybe i’LL join the Amish. I’ve fallen short of billionaire status it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:22 AM
5

Just saying that you’d be more likely to find low n count women within cultures like that. There are many Christian denominations that are like that. And we are a “Christian nation” so I don’t think it’s somehow beyond your culture to find these groups. They’re all over America.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:20 AM
-1

Did not mean to imply it was. I only mean that maybe typical American women aren’t a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:16 AM
17

Who wouldn’t believe those statistics? It makes perfect sense. There are many religious cultures that don’t encourage sexual freedom/exploration from its female members. They also tend to have low divorce rates. It might be a good dating pool for men who like that sort of woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:45 AM
4

Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:04 AM
9

I’m not punching back, I’m saying that it might be sensible for these men to try dating seventh day adventists or women from cultures that don’t encourage sexual freedom/exploration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:41 AM
6

Also interesting. At least their wives don’t cheat on them I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:28 AM
2

Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:28 AM
23

Exactly. The Amish, for example, don’t divorce much. Maybe the red pill people need to try the Amish communities? It seems like that’s the type of women they’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 12:15 AM

Oh. I don’t know any of those women. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:15 PM
3

People seem to celebrate life long bachelors, so I’m not sure what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:27 PM
1

I’m sorry you’re tired of the correct answer. And no one likes weak men or women. No one likes weakness or cowardice. These are unattractive qualities. Why are we talking about weakness? Or did you conflate males having emotions with weakness precisely bc you’re a product of a patriarchal system?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:57 AM
1

That’s what I mean is part of a patriarchal culture. It’s not just women’s acceptance or rejection. It’s men and women. And yes, when I was 17 I liked the strong, confident, masculine guy. But we all grow up, and while those are still attractive qualities, they’re hollow if it’s just bravado. Those qualities (when they’re real) take time to develop. Without the emotional side, they’re just meaningless affectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:32 AM
2

Yes. And the way that shapes everything in our world. I’m not going to try to make you understand we live in a patriarchy. The only people who would deny this are being willfully obstinate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:33 AM
2

Not looking to build a matriarchy. Just want equality. We live in a patriarchy. You know it and I know it and so does everyone else. Men hold most positions of power. This may be changing, yes! But we have more to do. The patriarchy hurts men because there’s a cultural tendency to shame men for seeking help or showing emotion or having any sort of mental struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:50 AM
4

I’m a die hard feminist. Many, many men are allies. The patriarchy hurts men as well. Men’s issues are hugely important. The health and experience of men is hugely important. This isn’t an us versus them situation. There are crazy people in every group/movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:30 PM

Yeah. Kids are tough on libido. And then a husband who doesn’t behave like a partner makes it so much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:23 PM
2

After a thorough investigation, you’ve determined it’s EASIER to be tall and muscular. I’ve determined it’s easier to have boobs and to be thin. That’s life. I’m not out here joining cults over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:21 PM

I don’t doubt you know a little about it, and actually I think what you’re saying abt beta qualities vs alpha qualities is interesting. I’ve said before that we aren’t attracted to “good people.” We don’t want to have wild sex with the saints. Men are the same from what I can tell. None of them have mother Theresa in their spank bank. At least I hope they don’t. But a part you’re missing is while women may be partly attracted to alpha behavior (like you describe), they are repulsed by childlike …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:30 AM
2

Just like if a woman tried dating and it went nowhere. Take a break, investigate why it might not be working, consider what you might do to make life better for yourself and others. Take a brave assessment of what you bring to the relationship. And go from there. It’s a better approach to life than being bitter and disappointed and joining a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 05:23 PM
2

Red pill is not mainstream. Not by any stretch. It’s a fringe cult that preys on men with mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:19 PM
1

Hell yes you can!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:17 PM
0

How do you have any idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:17 PM
1

Yes I understand the word “race” has two meanings. Didn’t mean to confuse. I get that we are talking about an actual foot race. I just wonder who the other competitors are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:51 PM
2

I live with and talk to plenty of average men. I know none who feel like this. But I don’t know any red pill cult people in real life. At least not well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:46 PM
5

I understand foot race. But you’re talking about outrunning other people in your hypothetical foot race. Who are the other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:45 PM
4

Insane. Y’all are full on insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:42 PM
10

Anyway, I don’t mean to be mean. I get frustrated with this sub. But the simple truth is that women do value men. Very much. And men’s sense of health and happiness is important. Red pill philosophy erodes this relationship, so I get impatient with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:10 PM
11

Oh. It sounded like you said “if women don’t want to have relationships anymore, then the population will COLLAPSE in a few generations.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:05 PM
5

I think it’s really easy for someone with mental health issues (red pills) to assume it’s looks. That means they don’t have to take any responsibility for themselves. It’s victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:58 PM
2

So you’re mostly concerned about one race of people? Just trying to figure this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:56 PM
11

So in other words, if women don’t submit, the entire human population will disappear? This is overstatement. A catastrophization. You’re in hysterics and need to calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:55 PM
13

He’s implying it’s within our control. If we would just eat right and exercise, this wouldn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:26 AM
1

People change a great deal from the time they’re 20. Is that a surprise?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:58 PM
2

It’s on the women? For being young and in love? You’re ridiculous. Gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 12:50 AM
3

It’s not that I don’t believe it’s possible, I just don’t believe it’s the norm. You guys are in a cult. There’s no way to reason with cult followers. Carry on. Best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:48 PM
2

Women amiright???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:28 PM
3

I meant not working bc they don’t seem to like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:04 PM
0

Fully agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:04 PM
3

“This one time …” Okay okay. There was that one time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:43 PM
2

They’re not trashy (even tho it’s a common description for single moms who DO stay and raise their kids). And no need to throw anyone in a gulag. Just some of the income would be helpful when child rearing is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:41 PM
6

I feel like I’m talking to a Fox News cult member. There’s plenty of evidence that shows how safe sharing a bathroom with transgender people is. But you probably eat three square meals of misinformation with your buddy Tucker Carlson, so there’s no point in arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:23 PM
8

Does it feel weird to profess to know why women get divorced and to say without a doubt it’s frivolous. I just can’t quite reach that level of arrogance. I’d have to ask men why they get divorced and would listen to their reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:11 PM
1

“Just switch one day.” Haha! For no rhyme or reason. Just switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:10 PM
2

Not just misogyny in this sub but bigotry too! What a wonderful world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:09 PM
16

I know of so many more women who get stuck with full custody and can’t make the bills bc Junior won’t work or contribute in any way. The “current legal climate” seems to be whatever incels think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:37 PM
1

Are you saying that allowing for transgender people makes us all insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 03:33 PM
5

Exactly! Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:48 PM
15

If women bring nothing to the table, then why are y’all so worried abt them? MGTOW on a horse and head off into the sunset.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 10:48 PM
1

The lonely are so delicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:24 AM
1

I would be sad. I love men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:26 PM
1

It is. Just interesting how hard people try to demonstrate that they know all about something and that it’s all bullshit and there’s no convincing them otherwise. Methinks he doth protest toooo much! I hope you find hope and love and beauty. Peace to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:19 PM
1

Marriage? Or love?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:37 PM
1

No reason to be sarcastic. And marriage is a whole other topic. The fact that marriages fail and that some people are in transactional relationships doesn’t mean all relationships are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 07:08 PM
1

I think the ones who are actually living like that are the real world. The pretenders and red pills are tied up in subs like this. To the majority of people, these subs seem fringe and sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:57 PM
1

Some relationships are transactional, yes. Some marriages are transactional. But there are many many people who don’t live like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 04:09 PM
2

There’s a whole world of people who are able to love genuinely and who value human connection, who don’t see love as shallow and merely transactional. The red pill men are living a sort of superficial and painful, prideful existence. Definitely easy pickings for cults. I hope for more for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:28 PM
1

No. I always pay bc I have the $. I’m saying the men on this subreddit obviously don’t feel good and are being preyed upon by a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:02 PM
1

This narrow-minded (and even rather ill) subreddit is worlds away from the reality of our society. These are men who don’t feel good and need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:52 PM
3

Well, no one minds a hard pass when there’s a fundamental disagreement. Wasn’t saying you HAD to pay, just was suggesting generosity on a first date. I think this might be the wrong sub for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:13 PM
1

Let me just toss in right here the amount women spend on tampons, gyno trips, lab work, Pap smears, mammograms, ultrasounds, etc. I’m not saying women are owed this $. But … maybe pay for just the first date? Just to start off on a generous foot. Then split after that. If she keeps expecting you to pay, then find a different lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:46 PM
5

Wish I could upvote this more times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:06 PM
9

Idk what a purple pill woman is. I’m just a woman, but I think that’s accurate. Especially in the first couple of years of a relationship. I think the typical decline of sex during a marriage shouldn’t be considered a determining factor. Too many factors at play there to isolate any one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:51 AM
0

I’m not sure criminalizing prostitution has anything to do with protections the economically vulnerable. It seems like it’s punishing the economically vulnerable. I hear what you’re saying, and if there were a valid safety net out there, I’d agree. But there isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:16 AM

Ok, ok. Arrogant of me to assume men want human connection. It’s probably loveless sex and Oreos. All good, friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 10:39 PM

It’s not arrogant to be human and report back how it feels. I said all people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 09:48 PM

Why is this sub full of men convinced they know exactly what women want? That’s … kind of arrogant. If that’s the right word? I think all people, male and female, crave human connection above all else. Beyond money and status and material and loveless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:36 PM

What if you looked at hobbies and clubs as a way to enjoy life and not as a guarantee to meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:29 PM
2

You people meaning women? I guess you’re right. Odious people don’t go around announcing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:30 PM
3

I think what you fail to understand is masculinity and femininity are two ancient powers that make up the driving force of all of life. Together it’s a creative power that sustains the pulse of the entire planet. That’s the commonest sense there is. So beyond that and into all this absolutely insane whiny bullshit abt how women should be kinder and more inclusive and let men touch their boobies more … seems almost foul. Or perverted. Or more like desecration of your own gender. And that brings u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:06 AM
6

Do you guys have any evidence about this? That men are increasingly hating women? More and more misogyny? Are you projecting your own misogyny? Honest question, bc I simply haven’t met anyone like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:34 PM
2

What does society do to empathize and work with the KKK? Or Nazis? Or rapists? Or pedophiles? Nothing. We do nothing. There is no negotiation for intolerable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:20 PM
1

It sounds like you’re saying give us sex or else?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 06:16 PM

You just called something you think “a fact.” Possibly completely frying the receptors huh? Facebook? RIP my receptors. Dang. And porn? What happens when women fit 2 weeks of porn into one glowing overnight solo session? Are we immune to super stim? Gen X
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:53 AM

You’re so hilarious you can’t even see it. It’s … hysterical. Y’all have gone into hysterics on this sub and need to be slapped (like in old movies when they used to slap women who became dangerously emotional and unreasonable). This is the same behavior. You’re talking about women being dumb on social media? Without even a discussion about male behavior on social media. They too have similar opportunities and pitfalls, tendencies toward vanity and perceived fame. But for some reason we are talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:44 AM

I don’t blame men for everything. I also think their experience on this planet is enormously important. I love men. All kinds and shapes and sizes. But I can’t reason with misogyny. It’s unreasonable and emotionally-based. This sub is more like a religion or cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 12:12 AM

Maybe continuing to whine about the fact that women have agency over their own bodies now will help? Idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:53 PM

Fries their dopamine receptors?? Do you think of women as children who need your protection and appraisal? So so so so so crazy. Bonkers. Absolute bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:33 PM

Your comment is so spectacularly paternalistic and narrow-minded that … I won’t respond. It’s completely pointless. There are no fruitful discussions here. This sub is a circle jerk for men who seriously need jerking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:31 PM

Males are resistant to this phenomenon?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 11:29 PM
-5

What is social media’s affect? Specifically on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 08:08 PM
1

Not lots? Yes lots! Lots of people out there doing it. I promise. There are fewer kids. People getting married later in life and also deciding to be childless, but people still doing the dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:44 PM
1

The average woman isn’t either. There’s an age in life where both men and women prize looks above all else. But we all grow out of that in our 20s or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:40 PM
1

Then what is it would you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 08:34 PM

I wish men understood that lots and lots of people are out there having sex. Lots of ugly or otherwise average people having loads of sex. Some of the sexlessness may be linked to traits such as a sense of entitlement regarding sex, a self-pitying attitude, bitterness, and whining/wheedling/pestering behaviors. This is all extraordinarily unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:10 PM
3

Why is that relevant to what women are looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:37 AM
0

What? That’s a strange thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 03:25 PM
1

Have you ever watched a woman walk by and silently wolf-whistled at her … virtue? The world is playful. All species are playful. None are exempt. Whole empires have been built on a good sense of humor or how someone’s ass looks in blue jeans. This is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:42 PM
1

I’m done with it too. But we all have a reason to care. We are in this together. You’re not an alien race. You’re the men in our world. You’re important to all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:50 PM
1

Of course there’s no moral argument for it. And of course the cuter men get more traffic. And because of outdated opinions about sex and marriage (that men need to be the ones to initiate contact) … then it may be challenging sometimes. This is pretty normal. Idk why all the anger and self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:09 PM
1

Completely agree that taller and cuter men have an easier go of things. Just like thin, cute women. But I think the myth that the top 15% have all the ladies is ridiculous. It’s not based in fact. A group of people who persist in believing things that aren’t actually factual … reminds me of a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 02:54 PM
4

Disturbing? Abortion isn’t disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:27 AM
1

I like this comment. But I do think this is sort of a contagious insanity. Like a cult or something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 10:48 PM
0

I know what you guys want to believe. This is what it sounds like: “Lunch used to be free, and now I have to earn it, and I feel really sorry for myself now.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:30 PM
1

These statements aren’t based in fact though. It’s just self pity. I wish you guys could understand that self pity is way more unattractive than average height and looks. Women are moved by many more qualities than looks. It’s … absolutely silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:56 PM
5

It seems like that to you bc you frequent incel subs that love this myth. I’m guessing it’s bc they can blame external reasons and avoid any personal responsibility. I’m not sure why it’s so wildly sensational. Think reasonably about it. Do you really think the top 15% of tall guys are running around like Wilt Chamberlains? Scraping up all the women? Even the less attractive ones? And women are just salivating over them? Is this really what you think the problem is? We are all in this together. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:45 PM
-1

I was overstating to emphasize the ridiculousness of your statement. The tsunami of men coming forward to whine bc they aren’t tall or cute enough (and that all of human sexuality could be reduced so drastically into those terms) verges on hilarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:24 PM
0

Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:10 PM
1

Hell yeah! Punani Dasani!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:07 PM
4

You’ve found it. The extinction of the human race. All due to the fact that some of you aren’t tall. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:56 PM
2

Nobody is trying to deny your reality, buddy. It’s just that some people actually believe and have experienced love as a selfless gift. And also as something they feel humbled by. It’s moving. I hope you someday experience that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:16 AM
3

Is this the part where we get to argue like madmen on Reddit about sensationalist headlines? Swoon. We obvs aren’t hedonists, but masochists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:09 AM
2

“Unreasonable” is perfectly understandable. When you applied the behavior to men, you called it unreasonable. The same behavior from women became a matter of respect. That’s what I found strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:05 AM
4

Such a popular myth men love to repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:44 AM
13

This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:43 AM
0

You don’t “respect” a woman who might seek comparable earning power in a spouse? What a strange thing to say. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 03:42 AM
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