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immediatesword/r/MensRights28/04/19 04:08 PM
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This article obviously isn't talking about banter between friends
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:09 PM
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Can you really not think of a joke that isnt at the expense of someone else? It doesn't necessarily have to be rude to still make someone feel bad
/r/MensRights06/08/19 10:25 PM
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Is it really so hard to understand that I'm not trying to make it a legal requirement to be nice? And um... yeah. I think it's a pretty damn good idea to try to eliminate as much sadness as possible, and try to make people feel less angry. I'm not saying that it's possible to eliminate everything bad, but be honest with yourself: do you really think this is the best we can do?
/r/MensRights06/08/19 05:21 PM
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So that's it? "People are mean, sucks to suck. Get over it." How about instead of teaching that, we teach that you should try to accommodate people when you can, and eventually it won't be expected that you'll be forced to endure discomfort. You're saying that people are going to make others uncomfortable, so we shouldn't even try to stop it. Good luck improving the world with that mentality.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 04:52 PM
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You, for calling people pansies and fragile for understanding basic social cues, and for thinking that it's okay to leave them in their discomfort when we can do something about it. Dont act like you weren't just trying to prove that we should let people be uncomfortable for the past hour.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 04:41 PM
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Look, heres my point, and if you don't understand it then you must be socially inept: if you can't spare 10 seconds to make someone more comfortable, and would rather have them be secluded in their discomfort, you are a bad person. It isn't hard to make someone feel included. And to actively call someone a pussy for feeling excluded when they are being excluded (having jokes made about you for being different is essentially the pinnacle of exclusion) makes you an even worse person. I can't say i…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 04:34 PM
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How the fuck did you draw those conclusions from what I just said? I'm saying that nobody should say, "I hate islam" when there are nicer ways to disagree with something. My point isn't that we all need to be legally required to submit to religion, just that you should be nice. Stop trying to make me sound like some sort of dictator. And where did I ever say that I care about girls more than boys? I'm just saying that if a boy is in a group of all boys because he likes boys, even though that isn…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 03:48 PM
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Oh no, a world where people aren't allowed to be mean to religions, how horrible! You know there are ways to criticize things without causing people to be uncomfortable, right? And that's a false equivalence. The boy scouts were not created as a safe space for boys, so it makes total sense for a girl to want to be part of it and do what they do. A more apt analogy would be like an all male homeless shelter, which virtually no one is trying to take away. And if that's the way you think, then I su…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 03:24 PM
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Why shouldn't we strive for a world where everyone is comfortable? Is it so much to ask that people don't say stuff like, "you can't be a real tech worker if you don't watch star trek," because it alienates people for 2 seconds of chuckling? You may as well say that we should get rid of AC, because it's too much of a hassle simply to make people feel less hot and more comfortable.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 03:04 PM
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I think the same person who posted that, and me, are against those jokes as well. Why do you always view equality from the negative side? "If bad jokes are made about men, then they have to be made about women too." How about, and I know that this is a radical idea, there are no bad jokes at all?
/r/MensRights06/08/19 02:32 PM
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Unfortunately it was deleted, but you can still read the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/cf51ib/serious_my_perspective_on_why_girls_can_feel/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Part of it talked about jokes like, "how is there a girl on reddit? Girls don't exist lol." It's a small, harmless joke, but it gets to you after you hear it enough, and it made this girl, and apparently a lot of others, feel as if they didnt belong.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 12:50 PM
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Wow, it's almost as if subconciousness exists. Do any of you frequent r/teenagers? Remember that post that blew up last week about how girls don't feel comfortable because of the harmless jokes so many people make? They may be small jokes, but they affect the human psyche all the same. This is the exact same problem people have when others tell men to "be a man, don't cry" or, "boys will be boys" when they do something bad. Those are both small statements, but have huge effects.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 11:35 AM
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He has literally said outloud with his own mouth that women let him doanything, since he's famous. And isnt this girl constantly criticized, too? Nobody likes lena dunham
/r/MensRights03/08/19 12:35 AM
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Yeah, the vast majority cant, but famous people, like, idk, the president, can. That's the problem, not joe shmoe
/r/MensRights02/08/19 11:27 PM
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Yeah, because the video has a positive like ratio and no guy has ever been proud of doing similar things to women
/r/MensRights02/08/19 09:59 PM
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Where did you get that from? I'm not saying that everyone accused of rape is a rapist, I'm saying that the court isn't the end all be all to an allegation though
/r/MensRights24/07/19 05:51 PM
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I'm not talking about Renaldo, I'm saying that her claim isn't wrong. The court is generally right, but that doesn't mean they're always right
/r/MensRights23/07/19 10:04 PM
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No, but the court isnt the end all be all.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 10:02 PM
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What? Are you guys saying that courts can't be wrong? They're wrong all the time
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:38 PM
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Just a reminder that this is 99% of feminism's feminism
/r/MensRights23/07/19 02:04 PM
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The point isn't that you're statement is technically true, it's that you bother to mention it at all. It's like the whole BLM vs All Lives Matter. When people say that all lives matter, yeah, they aren't wrong, but it's obvious that they're only saying it as a way to destract from the actual problem
/r/MensRights22/07/19 07:38 PM
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The whole reason people hate comments like yours is because you're acting as if the anti-feminist comics are right. When you see a picture of an exaggerated feminist and you say, "well, they do exist" you're missing the whole point of the post, which isn't that radical feminists don't exist, but that they aren't what feminism stands for. Imagine a post where an incel is sexually harassing some girl and it was supposed to be a representation of modern men. Wouldnt you find it offensive if someone…
/r/MensRights22/07/19 07:30 PM
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So I assume you would agree to a comic that shows the same as in the original post, but with an angry man instead? It wouldn't be wrong, after all, right? There are some radical MGTOW guys out there who would do anything to get women off of the face of the planet, and I'd even be willing to bet that they're more common than crazy feminists. Because using very rare examples to represent the entire group is okay, right?
/r/MensRights22/07/19 07:22 PM
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Literally all of those top comments are about how bad domestic violence is against men. No one is laughing at it.
/r/MensRights15/07/19 05:29 PM
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Link to post?
/r/MensRights15/07/19 01:17 PM
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I'm referring to the comment that said that it's unfair that sex offenders are put on a list when murderers arent. I never said that it's okay for courts to descrimate on sex
/r/MensRights11/07/19 11:01 PM
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Not the sex offender list, but if a murderer tries to apply for something and they ask about his past, he would have to tell them about his felony. All felons do.
/r/MensRights11/07/19 10:41 PM
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You realize that murders, too, are put on a list, right? It's called a criminal record.
/r/MensRights11/07/19 07:34 PM
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Feminists (at least the vast majority of them) don't hate men. Why would I be on this sub if I did? I'm a man myself, by the way. And no, nobody supports false accusers, it's just that some people think we should lean towards the accused, while others think we should lean towards the accuser. Neither side is saying that false allegations are okay or good. Feminists do not believe in female superiority, they aren't anti-justice, andnthey aren't a hate movement. Open your eyes; all I said is that …
/r/MensRights26/06/19 01:05 AM
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So, let me get thisb straight: you guys (by which I mean the people of this sub, and I'm about to make an assumption based on the title of this post and suicide statistics I see, so correct me if I'm wrong) think that men shouldn't be judged for showing emotion, and that them being judged is a large part of why they commit suicide; yet when presented with the fact that men aren't as outwardly emotional, your response is just, "well, that's the way it is :-/." What kind of sense does that make? D…
/r/MensRights25/06/19 10:04 PM
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I think your response speaks for itself. You truly are a champion for equality between men and women, huh?
/r/MensRights25/06/19 09:38 PM
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What? Like you are? If you want, look up #maletears on twitter or something and ask all of the people who have posted pictures what kind of tears they are, and if they have a problem with men crying for emotional reasons. You'll get exactly the responses I've said you'll get
/r/MensRights25/06/19 09:36 PM
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You could find literally every single one of those women in the picture, ask what male tears the cup is referring to, and absolutely none of them will say that they're tears from someone's past trauma, or their partner leaving them, or their parent dying. They'll say that the figurative tears are from guys who get mad at women for being fat, or incels who complain that every woman is out to #MeToo him. The mugs are in no way an attempt to say that men cant cry
/r/MensRights25/06/19 08:19 PM
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I can assure you guys that the vast majority of feminists whole heartedly support men being more emotional. When those mugs refer to tears, they aren't talking about sad tears, they're talking about incel tears and men getting mad at women for, what they believe to be, dumb reasons, e.g feminists existing
/r/MensRights25/06/19 07:09 PM
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So you're saying that the woman was right that men are scary? What's your point? She never said that only women can be scared
/r/MensRights24/06/19 11:36 AM
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I have a feeling they're being sarcastic. Like, they're saying what they've heard as women, but reversed, in hopes that men will actually listen once it concerns them. Apparently, it worked.
/r/MensRights26/05/19 01:53 AM
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So this post was about how horrible the draft is, and half of the comments are about how women need to he part of it, too. How about we just abolish it altogether?
/r/MensRights07/05/19 10:53 AM
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I think they just did that for English sake. Saying "she faces charges of rape because of rape" sounds stupid
/r/MensRights03/05/19 08:32 PM
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Fine, here's one they list https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ejsp.56
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:31 PM
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You really cant get it through your head that feminists don't hate men, huh? I hope that one day you realize that the few people you hear about in videos and whatnot do not at all represent the average individual. That's true for everything, by the way. Religion, political views, sex, race, etc. Until then, I'm not going to continue to repeat myself simply because you refuse to listen to one fucking sentence: feminists do not hate men.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:19 PM
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Um, no. No it hasn't. And I would assume because people like you are trying to turn feminist into a slur of sorts. It has a bad connotation, but not all connotations are true.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:15 PM
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No evidence? Yeah, you definitely didn't watch the video.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:09 PM
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Well, hate to tell you so, but those "feminists" at Starbucks are the entire feminist movement. When somebody says that they hate feminists, they rarely ever think of the handful of women in government, and I highly doubt that the Starbucks feminists agree with the idea that men shouldn't have custody. In fact, the Equal Rights Act would have guaranteed equal custody, but the antifeminists stopped that act.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:08 PM
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Then I hope you're prepared to throw the "not all men are like that" argument in with it, because there really isnt a difference using that logic. And ????? That's bad. What do you expect me to do? Say, "Yay, men are finally being put in jail for simply being men! It's what I've always wanted!" Because, well, no. Nobody thinks that way.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:05 PM
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Yeah, you didn't watch the video.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:01 PM
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The study is in the video. You would know if you bothered to even look at it. And look at the comments of that article. Do they look A-OK to you?
/r/MensRights28/04/19 09:01 PM
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That "random article" has sources just about every other word
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:53 PM
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I'm going to say this for the last time because I really don't think you understand it: those situations are bad. I'm not saying that we should push men to suicide or that men should be made into slaves. Very few people think that all men are rapists, that all women are unconditionally telling the truth, that all women are flawless angels, that being a man is to live a perfect life. If they are, they're a hypocrite. Jokes can be harmful; realize that.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:52 PM
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Factually correct, actually. Employers have shown that they don't like to hire minorities when there are white options. And are you even listening to me? I'm not advocating for male suicide, and neither is the rest of the feminist group. The people that do are a fringe minority, similar to actual nazi conservatives
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:47 PM
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I'm not saying you have to agree with it, I'm saying it's true. https://theconversation.com/psychology-behind-the-unfunny-consequences-of-jokes-that-denigrate-63855
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:44 PM
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Again, did you even watch the video? I mean seriously??? There are studies that show that African style names draw in negative attention on resumes. White privilege is undeniable at this point. That doesnt mean that all white people are rich, or that all minorities are homeless, but it means that white people have an easier life, in general, than their minority counterparts
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:41 PM
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And people think that that's bad? I'm pretty sure that 99.999999% of feminists you ask would hate that video just as much as you.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:39 PM
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Because Asian privilege is more of a good stereotype. It's going away from the norm in a positive direction. It doesn't take away from anybody. Other minorities' stereotypes are negative, and bring down their social status, and I think we can all agree that moving up is better than moving down. But I do think that a large number of people don't like the traditional pressure that Asian parents give their children, although I dont have all of the experience to speak to that fully. Nazi retards lik…
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:38 PM
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The literal first thing he says is that the video is for anti-SJW's, because someone who is an SJW already knows everything in the video. He is bringing in anti-SJW's closer to the middle because he feels that they're the ones furthest from it. He does mention that not everything is racist or that not everyone is a rapist, and he dismisses that side of SJW's, but he makes it clear that most feminists and SJW's simply want equality. I would hope that equality has no political leaning
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:33 PM
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You're kidding, right? He made a lot of rational arguments. Like how not all feminists are SJW's, or how the wage gap does exist, or how when people say toxic masculinity they dont mean that all men suck, or that feminism does include men, etc
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:24 PM
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I'm saying that you shouldn't act as though they could have, when in reality, it would have been harder for someone else. The parallel between graffiti and race jokes are that they are both harmful variants of their overall category. It's not like everytime you make a race joke, a black person keels over and dies, but those jokes contribute to people's racial biases, and those lead to racism overall.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:22 PM
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No..? He's simply saying that a lot of people dont see the logic behind the feminist movement, and he was explaining to those people (who are probably all pretty well versed in anti-sjw facts already) the reasoning behind feminism and sjw's. He didn't need to present the other side, because the audience is the other side
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:19 PM
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You have to realize what it does to a person's confidence when you tell them, "just as work as hard as I do, and eventually you'll be just as successful", when that simply isn't true. And again, it's not just comedy. That's not saying that outlawing graffiti is a limitation of art. While sure, it's technically true, graffiti is different than other art, just like how racial jokes are different than other jokes.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:14 PM
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1- it stops the stereotype of white people bring inherently better 2- if you make a joke about black people being unproductive, that subconsciously affects people. They may not realize it, but it does
/r/MensRights28/04/19 07:54 PM
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1- acknowledge it. Don't pretend as if everyone had an even chance at success, and that you simply worked harder to be where you're at. 2- when they hurt people, yes. What's wrong with that?
/r/MensRights28/04/19 07:41 PM
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He addressed that point. It's not that white people get more or something extra, it's that minorities get less. You can't control what others think of you, but you can control what others think of minorities. Try to rid yourself of any racial bias, and dont make jokes that will subconsciously make people think less of minorities
/r/MensRights28/04/19 07:30 PM
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Did you watch the video?
/r/MensRights28/04/19 07:22 PM
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Let me guess, you arent going to watch the video because you think you have nothing to gain from it?
/r/MensRights28/04/19 06:30 PM
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How are they wrong? It's not my fault that people dont report crimes, or that they may not answer survey's truthfully. Those are the best facts we have currently
/r/MensRights21/01/19 05:43 PM
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No, that's not what the ad is saying. It's saying that any man who isn't standing up to assault, should be standing up to assault.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 04:33 PM
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What? What you're saying is that because a lot of them could be false, because they're basically impossible to be proven, that they're all essentially false? I know that the majority isn't always the best to listen to, but when 70%+ of women say they've been harassed, I doubt they're all lying about it.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:35 PM
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Less than 10 percent of all accusations are false. You cant use such a small percent to disregard all other claims
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:23 PM
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You should believe them because most people tell the truth. Also, why would large numbers of women all lie at once in an anonymous survey about being cat called?
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:20 PM
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that women need to be raised to have options. The way you're raised changes almost everything about you, so we should tell girls that they can do whatever they want, other than just give them media that shows them all as mothers, nurses, and teachers.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:18 PM
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You need proof for every single woman who says she's been cat called or groped? Good luck with that. Surveys generally work, especially when it comes from a trusted source like NPR
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:17 PM
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I'm not saying that fat people dont exist, or that being fat is healthy, or that being fat is better than being skinny. I'm saying that when there are totally in shape people with cellulite, and an ad calls them ugly, that ad deserves flak
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:15 PM
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Just pointing out your sophistry, nothing more.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:14 PM
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I'm not expecting that, I'm expecting us to raise girls so that they know being CEO is an option, and they they dont have to have children and whatnot. A lot of women are never really given an option to do anything other than be a traditional mom
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:13 PM
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Read my previous replies
/r/MensRights21/01/19 03:12 PM
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You know that women produce more fat than men, right? Which is why so many of them get cellulite? My point still stands that a lot of people get cellulite, even when they arent obese
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:53 PM
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https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics - 90% stat https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence - 16% stat Women are running, just not enough, because they've never been told they can run. No little girl is told that she may be president one day. Our culture around that needs to change. From what I've witnessed, people seem to be more patronizing and condescending towards women. It's not a fact, but it's my own experiences. That's Canada, a place which I would say has more to offer women th…
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:51 PM
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I'll say it again, stretch marks dont only come from being fat. It comes from stretched skin. That can happen for a lot of different reasons. I know people who in the best shape ever, but stopped working out for a weak, and that cause cellulite. Anybody can get cellulite
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:13 PM
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Nice ad hominem. Also, I really dont think you have the authority to call people trolls when you're entire profile is bait
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:12 PM
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Do you know how many men are raped in prison? Also, I didnt mention that only men rape. I said that mostly women are raped. There's a difference there. I said that women are raped. Saying that men are raped, and that women rape, doesnt invalidate my statement
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:09 PM
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https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics - 90% stat https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence - 16% stat Having more money, especially when it's mostly inherited, is privilege. That's like, the most basic example of it. People are definitely upset that there arent more Native Americans in Congress. From what I've witnessed, people seem to be more patronizing and condescending towards women. Female genital mutilation exists, too. I won't try and defend male genital mutilation, but I never …
/r/MensRights21/01/19 02:06 PM
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Yeah, if it's a choice, then it shouldn't be mentioned at all. But not being promoted to the point of reaching the fortune 500, that's not a choice.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:53 PM
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Funny how my comment is also downvoted :-)
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:52 PM
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But men are the vast majority of them. There's a huge difference between saying, "men should be more conscious of their harmful actions and the harmful actions of others", and "women are ugly because of natural body marks"
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:50 PM
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Not only obese people have stretch marks lol
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:20 PM
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So are workplace accidents. If you dont choose a violent job, you wont die during it.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:18 PM
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Why are those irrelevant? And how are they false? And I know that not all men report rapes, but neither do women.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 01:02 PM
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90% of rape victims are women 95% of the people in the Fortune 500 are men Women are underrepresented in Congress 16%~ of women have been raped Men are taken more seriously Men have more body autonomy (no abortion laws, can walk around shirtless) 66% of women have reported being sexually harassed in public You can find stats to show privilege on either side. Truth is, men and women both have unique privileges and set backs.
/r/MensRights21/01/19 12:40 PM
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Avon shamed women for having cellulite. Gillette shamed men for doing immoral things. There's a difference there :-/
/r/MensRights20/01/19 06:12 PM
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But? Everybody is flipping out..? Also, quite a lot of women get assaulted on camera and nobody bats an eye. Assault is a problem for both sides
/r/MensRights30/12/18 12:27 AM
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I could see this being just as dangerous. If she's drunk, yet consents, a judge wont always say that counts.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 02:21 PM
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I think theres obviously some discretion implied here
/r/MensRights25/11/18 02:54 AM
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Just curious, how many people on this sub actually openly talk about their feelings and whatnot? The stuff that this picture promotes
/r/MensRights21/11/18 12:37 PM
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