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Seems to me like you are confused over word definitions. Compromising and sacrificing are not the same things. Compromise : an agreement in an argument in which the people involved reduce their demands or change their opinion in order to agree: Sacrifice : to give up something that is valuable to you in order to help another person. I am willing to compromise. Not sacrifice. Compromise : I like to go to the airport a lot of time before the flight, like 6 hours. He'd rather be there 2 hours befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:29 AM
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First of, your comment is debunking an article that I haven’t even cited. So it’s irrelevant. Secondly, half of those articles are too old to be relevant to day. 40 years old of today are not the same as 2009, 40 year-old. We will know how millenial women do in old age in a decade or so. Thirdly, I never mentionned that all women are thriving so again a good chunk of your article is irrelevant. Finally, the articles you have provided state themselves that the hierarchy goes like this healthy cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:01 PM
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First off, I said I would not sacrifice for anyone I didn’t say anything about compromise. But you don’t need to compromise much when you get with someone you're compatible with. We agree on almost everything. The few times we disagree whoever gets more affected negatively by the decision has the last say. "You expect everyone to accommodate for you while you are unwilling to compromise on anything. "Yes and no. I don’t want to accmodate my life and I don’t expect people to do it for me either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:21 PM
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No woman is in crisis, it’s men who keep talking about their loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 10:06 PM
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́No need for the article. They look older, tired and have financial issues. Wives report higher rates of depression. They don’t kill themselves because their kids need them. They just self medicate with alcohol.Single women are just more likely to do something about depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:44 PM
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Nope, we live together. I do, you just don’t like what I want and deem it not a true relationship but that’s just your personal opinion. You are contradicting yourself. yes I stated what I want, it’s not a shameful secret.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:40 PM
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That’s not true. I have seen both. Polls have also shown men actually rank higher relationships and marriage as priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:36 PM
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Men have not accepted their fate, otherwise rp spaces wouldn’t exist to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:36 PM
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Not you in general. Almost all mysoginist laws throughout the world have been written because of that fear of paternal fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:46 AM
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Yet wives are the most unhappy demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:44 AM
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"You have to concede and make sacrifices and viceversa, otherwise you don't have a relationship, just a hookup which most women seemingly hate. " I don’t want to do it. I don’t expect partner to do it. That’s a reciprocical exchange. I'm in a relationship that works that way and we are both fine. "Women don't even know what the fuck they want anymore as you so clearly demonstrated here. Half will "celebrate" being single which is a little bit odd to me and half would spent their time complaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:37 AM
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Not to the same extent. Men expect women to mold their lives around theirs. Hence why red pill keeps talking about submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:29 AM
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Yes and no. Because it’s not that your looks are necessarly too low. I think men are more attractive around that age too. The isssue is women take on top of looks other things in consideration(like money) and a 32 year old dude mighy be slightly less attractive than a 25 year old but with way more money and they’ll go with him instead. Basically there is too much competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:25 AM
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I mean we can discuss it but change will it do ? Women will like what they like you can’t reason a preference out of someone. I'd also say that between 18-30 years old, women are de facto 2 leagues above their "looksmatch" of the same age. That’s the age range men fight over from 15-50 years old. It evens out afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:01 AM
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Many don’t pass the tgreshold but I am not sure the threshold is that high...Men are terrible at making themselves look attractive. They often brag about not making effort...we can tell. The Red Pill was right to at least send them to the gym. Now they have less options (no makeup) but they’re not under as much scrutiny either. For the rest I agree and I don’t know if there is any way to fix this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:42 AM
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Men might have been more attracted when they were established but it didn’t lead them to treat women better. Maybe genders should accept they don’t like eachother much beyond fucking and organize society accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:37 AM
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I agree. It’salso that ideally it shouldn’t matter too much because it does not predict how good the relationship will be. The honest take is look is a threshold you need to pass. For some it’s high for others it’s low. Then, in the long run, personality matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:24 AM
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Women are overall more satisfied with it. Less pressure on both genders to perform tasks they’re not good at. Allows both genders to become more well rounded individuals. Women don’t get trapped in abusive and/or unhappy marriagesss. Now your turn. What’s wrong with abolishing gender roles ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:15 AM
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What’s wrong with abolishing gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:57 AM
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You did not understand what I meant. I meant I do not want to sacrifice myself for others àd therefore do not require it from them. If someone wants to sacrifice for me though I am not saying no. I don’t. It’s been like that for years. Modern dating doesn’t work because women no longer want to do it. In my case it means my income or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:54 AM
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I think, it’s just men not knowing how to read the room. Or men and women having different ways of communicating. Because notice how women are more likely to tell all these "everyone is beautiful" thing and Yet they spend more on makeup and beauty treaments than ever before. We know this whole "looks don’t matter" is just a white lie to show support not the actual truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:39 AM
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Eh, on this sub that’s disingenous since we are here to debate. But in really life what are we supposed to say to ugly ass teen Timmy ? "Yes dude very few women will want you ?" What’s the point of crushing that poor’s man spirit ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:58 PM
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I am not someone who values sacrifices. And I think beside children, no one is worth sacrificing for. In the context of dating, men require you to diminish who you are and make them the center of their lives. It’s not worth it. I do not know about the standards of women. Most women I know want reasonably attractive, gainfully employed, domestic skills and considerate. It doesn’t seem too much and it’s stuff that they can offer themselves but who knows maybe it’s too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:54 PM
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I would let him have the DNA and start cheating for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:44 PM
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To much harm has been done under the name of this insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:33 PM
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Are they really people arguing that dating is,as easy for ugly men as it is for good looking ones ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:19 PM
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What if it’s a girly sports like ice skating or rythmuc gymnastics ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:01 PM
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This is true men are quite consistent. What men ask is just annoying and requires a lot of effort for what you get in return. Though, one might argue that you're either sexual or you are not a d if you remain a virgin until marriage without difficulty fpr example it’s because you were not into sex to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:47 PM
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Approaching is fine. Not taking no as answer isn’t. And yes, you are more likely to be rejected if you are ugly. That’s life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:42 PM
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I would say those standards should not disappear but be treated on a more realistic approach. money: Past 25 years old, he should be gainefully employed and having a lifestyle similar to mine. The less money he brings the more he should contribute to the household chores. The money thing boils down to this. If your man is poor and bad at housekeeping you are signing up for a life of misery having to p do everything. Demanding 6 foot minium is insane. However Height will always matter. A reasonab…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:36 PM
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Men not being able to reproduce is not an injustice. It’s a by product of women having agency. Women don’t even ave high standards. Most couples share bills, and are similar in looks and professional background. There is a lot of failure to launch in len but it has nothing to do with women. They’re not good at school, they don’t learn trades, they don’t communucate well, they don’t know how to make themselves look aesthetically pleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:21 PM
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I am not talking about your family specifically but families which operated like yours. The feminists who started the movement all grew up in traditional families. Yet they rejected the model. Clearly something wasn’t working for them. And considering the choices they make today that set up doesn’t work for most women. My take is the men of the past failed traditional women and it will take a lot to regain their trust if that’s even possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:37 AM
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Families like yours made the whole thing look unappealing to most girls who grew up in it. Your fathers should have been more appreciative and respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:24 PM
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Never expressed gratefullness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:44 PM
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"Don’t talk to them if you're not happy", groundbreaking advice. Almost as if, women are aldrezdy doing that and that’s why we have a loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:07 PM
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Nothing wrong in not wanting to engage in an unasked transaction. Once again, men show their struggle with consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:52 PM
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Boohoo. Women have empathy. They don’t have sympathy for it tho because it’s a self created problem and you lot are unwilling to change
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:01 PM
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Except my point wasn’t that men are asking for help and women aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:01 PM
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Women get told this in South America a lot. They are just from a culture where they are taught to be very smiley and agreeable at the same time (men too). Same with asian women, except they are taught to act reserved and to seek consenus. Basically you are just discovering non confrontational cultures. Women from both those continents are known to get mad seemingly out of nowhere and the asian ones are known to just disapearr with the kids out of the blue (see japanese divorce).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 07:00 PM
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Yeah so almost never. Accidents are infrequent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:44 PM
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Being pleasant to be around is the least of my worries. I have family, friends and a partner who love my abrasive nature. But thanks for proving my point, you lot cannot stand a woman who will not perform acts of services for men. Which is okay. But be honest with yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:43 PM
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Not true. Women do not engage with random men to get help
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:39 PM
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As opposed to you who sure sounds like a treat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:36 PM
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1) They are raised to act more accormodating. It doesn’t mean they’re necessarly better in the long run. 2) if you are obviously american or western, they hope you can offer them a better life. White american men are seen as more progressive and rich
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:46 PM
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Yeah, well I've lived in England and Canada, they’re are known to do that and the men still suffer from the same main character syndrome. They just apologize while asking you to do things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:06 PM
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Actually you are right
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:05 PM
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I have my doubts. In every country men claim they’re different and when we talk to the women it’s a different story. My country is known to be quite progressive on women rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:54 PM
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So apparently you only interact with the opposite sex when they’re either a romantic interest or a stranger/coworker. I guess men really are lonely. To answer your question : yesterday.My brother is an entitled prick. And generally speaking, men constantly expect women to adapt to them and have a supportive tasks. In a mixed friends groups we are more likely to watch a football game than all go to the ballet. When a garthering is planned in a family, men havr a tendency to inform people without …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:44 PM
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I don’t think I do have actually more male friends in real life, it’s just a pattern I have noticed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:37 PM
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I think some are genuine but I just don’t get flattered the same way when a guy compliments me. Only women and children’s compliments have a soothing effect on me because it feels like it’s a purely generous gesture. Men always expect something in return even if it’s not sex. Theirs also tend to not feel very perosable. It’s always some generic "you look good" while women make you feel seen as an individual. Children too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:31 PM
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The fact that you think this behavior only shows in romantic relationship is cute. Almost all men expect this, in every interaction and are quick to call women who aren’t like this disagreeable and manly. The men who are deemed to be worthed the trouble get girlfriends those who are not don’t. Also all those unwanted men can feel free to themselves date fat,ugly or older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:27 PM
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That’s not true. Most men, abusive or not, expect women to adapt their lives around theirs. That’s how it used to work and it’s what’s causing most of today’s dating issues because women are unwilling to do it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:41 AM
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I don’t think women appreciate compliments from men though. Even when they’re non sexual, they just don’t feel as valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:37 AM
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This true. Compliments from men feel empty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:35 AM
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I'll look into it. I never was into porn more in etorica (which i know many authors are women doing it as a hobby)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:31 PM
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I guess yes. All of them are doing it for money though or to gain something like celebrity. They’re not posting it for free. But they do seem to enjoy it I'll give you that. They still are a minority. The main motivator for sex work is financial gain not pleasure or having a calling for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:33 PM
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I mean why shouldn’t she if he treats her well ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:48 PM
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As I said in my original comment : most people don’t really enjoy their jobs. So I say that about a lot of industries. Anyways, this conversation has run its course. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:39 PM
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Deep down, they know that. That’s why they always compensate with money. It’s always older men who lead with money when flirting with me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:31 PM
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Can you name a rich woman doing porn (as in someone who was aldready rich before doing porn) ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:29 PM
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That’s not what we are talking about though. We are talking about wether they enjoy it or not. And the answer is that most of them don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:44 PM
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That’s a whole lot of nonsense. Pointing out those behaviors are self destructive doesn’t mean people are advocating to remove their rights. There is no law banning women from doing porn people are just pointing out the obvious negative effects. Just like, if I say people probably shouldn’t smoke because it gives cancer it doesn’t mean that I am advocating to remove their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:49 PM
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Well no one is stopping them from doing it. People are entitled to think and say whatever they want about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:10 PM
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Then become as attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:05 AM
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Or they tried, didn’t like itso they won’t do it with the next one. Or they used to like it but their tastes changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:04 AM
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So very few are just there as a hobby. Glad we are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:02 AM
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I mean you don’t have to
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:02 AM
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No one is denying some sex workers enjoy their profession. Most don’t tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:52 PM
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How many of them are there because they thought they'd make money vs just a hobby ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 10:51 PM
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They can they don’t seem to want to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:33 PM
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That’s what most people do and that’s why I dont believe doing porn is ever truly a choice. I have yet to see a rich girl do it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:38 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:06 PM
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Most women who retire from porn, even OF where they have quite a lot agency and independance say they didn’t like it and only did it for money. The only exceptions I'm aware of are Sasha Grey and Katsuni. I am sure there is more they seem to be a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:25 PM
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This is something you have to make peace with or stop watching. If you have to pay for it it’s that they didn’t want to be sexual with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:23 PM
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Welp, not different from what is expected of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:09 AM
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The way I see it, most people don’t like their jobs even if they originally liked the subject because the professional aspect kills the fun of it I don’t see why sex work would be different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:54 AM
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Y’all are chill with this mentality when the woman is 20
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:08 PM
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The real question is why are we separating the two ? It’s easier to escalate if you are compatible and the conversation is flowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:48 PM
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"The gap is more about thresholds and selectivity, not “men attracted vs women not attracted" Tomatoes and tomatoes. Women are more selective simply because many average men are just not suitable matches. "Men are still judged on trajectory because long-term potential still matters in partner selection" Yes and their trajectories are worse than before. "BTW some women are doing well but plenty of women are still struggling nowadays. So ill address that as it being the case in comparison to the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 11:11 AM
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"create desire, which is the actual gatekeeper in dating" The average men finds the average woman attractive. The reverse is not true. "but it still ignores that men are being judged on future trajectory, not just current output. " My point is that they’ll probably do worse in the future than their forefathers. Women on the other hand, are doing better on their own than they ever have. So there is no incentive there. "Men pursuing more doesn’t prove women’s traits are more valuable, it reflects …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:34 AM
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"You’re stacking selective metrics and treating them like they translate directly into dating value across the board. Doing better in school or reporting better friendships does not automatically make someone more desirable in the dating market. " Having interpersonal skills, better domestic skills (most men don’t do shit around the house), being more agreeable while at the same time outearning men absolutely does make you a better partner. Dznying that is just arguing in bad faith. "outearning …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:19 AM
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"That’s still a generalization that leans one way. You’re describing men at their worst and women at their best, then using that to explain the gap. There are plenty of men who are well-rounded across multiple areas just like there are women who aren’t. The difference is men are evaluated harder across more categories at once, so even when they are solid, it doesn’t always translate into being seen as an option That only works if you treat those qualities as equal in weight. Presentation-based t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:51 AM
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You don’t understand what I am saying. Women are well rounded. Men are not. Men usually perform well job wise but neglect everything else which is why they are perceived as unsuitable options, especially when women have jobs themselves. "Women’s makeup, filters, styling, and presentation should not be treated as proof that they are automatically higher value than average men." It does, if one groupe has 5 qualities and the other just 1, the first group is of better value. "Being in a desirable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:28 AM
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The reality of it is that they are gendered expectations, they do make you more successful but women are okay with foregoing them and lowering their pool of candidates
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:56 AM
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It doesn’t make her top tier but it does make her better than the average man. This is where the problem lies. "Women can look pretty rough too, especially once the makeup, filters, angles, and presentation are gone, and plenty of women are rude or dismissive, especially toward men they do not find attractive." Yes but they do make the effort to make themselves look better wheras men don’t. Men need to step up in this area. "A cohort of men wants almost every type of woman because men are usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:40 AM
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No, the average woman works, take care of her looks, has domestic skills and good interpersonal skills. The average man has a job, a questionable haircut and lacks consideration for others. He does not deserve the average woman. Especially when she is in her prime (20-35) and thin. Because every cohort of men want her. Women want their equivalent. If they can’t they either settle so they can have kids or as it increasingly happen, they stay alone. And that’s okay. Enforced monogamy for everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:09 AM
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I mean, if we're being honest the middle isn’t that good and it has nothing to do with women preffering the top ones and everything to do with how an excpetional man is an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:52 AM
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If that happy middle is what’s actually happening why are men complaining then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:41 AM
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I mean, no one argued women couldn’t get with average men. My point is that many will never have the raw attraction that men seem to want. The happy middle is beta buxing but they decided it wasn’t enough. They want the Chad experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:28 AM
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I mean they could and some are saying that. Seems like most will tolerate anything for pussy tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:52 PM
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Men overestimate the number of women they actually find attractive. Overall men from 15 to 70 fight for the same cohort of 15 to 30 year old girls/women. Once you controle for beauty and weight (and ethnicity but this topic is banned) it doesn’t leave many women actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:40 PM
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Men react very negatively when women admit it in real life. So they don’t say it. So when you are one of the few women who admits it you are seen as extra mean in comparision. So you learn to shut up. It’s a vicious cycle. That being said I don’t think most men are unattractive to women. I think many fall into the "meh" category and having time to get to know oneanother better would help. The problem is there are no avenues to that in this day and age. Men also seem to not like the "he grew on m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:35 PM
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I would agree. That’s because men do not compensate with other skills. Like domestic skills or soft skills. Also, even if you earn a lot now, because of pregnancy, dating a dude poorer than you will lower your lifestyle. I need to look for the video but I saw a scientist explain that basically women are willing to date men who earn less than her if his earnings can sustain the same lifestyle her father provided for her as a child. Basically woman have a standard of living in mind, are aware that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:13 PM
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This is true. It’s the middle class that is disappearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:19 PM
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This is a genuine question : what if women don’t make this distinction ? What if the average dude is in fact completely unattractive to women ? This is the issue to me. Men seem to think there is a happy middle and I simply believe that, to many women, there isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:46 AM
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I would agree. That’s because men do not compensate with other skills. Like domestic skills or soft skills. Also, even if you earn a lot now, because of pregnancy, dating a dude poorer than you will lower your lifestyle. I need to look for the video but I saw a scientist explain that basically women are willing to date men who earn less than her if his earnings can sustain the same lifestyle her father provided for her as a child. Basically woman have a standard of living in mind, are aware that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:43 AM
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Women don’t even hate eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:33 PM
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And yet this thread was a guy complaining about how women raise men to be slaves. If you think it’s the case, raise them yourselves, if you think you cannot raise them accept that fact and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:31 PM
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If men don’t bring value to kids, they have no buisness telling woman how to raise their kids. No one said men aint shit except you mind you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:05 PM
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I understood your point i just disagree with it. If having the same surname is so important, men can feel free to change their names for their wives’ names I was talking about what actual latinos do not what Americans with ancestors coming from Latam do. That practice is quite unified throughout Latam except maybe Brazil. Under american law and through assimilation many just adopted white anglo practices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:19 AM
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Humm no, even in cultures where this is the norm, the people who change names seem to divorce just as much. Money wise it seems that it’s seems that it’s wealthy couples where the wife can afford to disconconstruct things without repercussions tthat it seems to work. Latinos have double names because the kids take one of each of their parents name. The mother doesn’t change hers. If the mom is Maria Rodriguez Lopez and the dad is Jose Ramos Dominguez then their kid is Daniela Ramos Rodriguez.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:05 AM
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This is laughable. There are so many cultures where it’s not even a thing and those have stronger ties than most western countries ( latinos, east asians, middle easterners...)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:52 AM
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Though it’s a double standards I think given the context it’s a fair fear to have. There is no history of forcing people to give away their food. There is a history of woman’s losing their rights because of sex. Hell even in so called "safe" countries when a catastrophe happens like a natural disaster or bombing the number of men skyrockets. People know deep down that sex is a need and they also know way many more men than we'd like to admit will do heinous things to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:38 AM
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That’s not true. To be able to say yes you need to be asked first. Many never or rarely get asked out first.Young men don’t ask every woman they meet to dates
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:32 AM
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Yes, so ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:28 AM
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They are more likely to not showcase all the behaviors men claim they don’t like : attention seeking, engaging in casual sex, shallow relationships, drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:03 AM
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This one makes people uncomfortable because of the potential implications. If it’s a need, is the man having had a 20 years dry spell an acceptable attenuating circumstance before the law ? If it’s a need should some women accept to take one for the team and have charity sex like we do for food ? If it’s a need should access to sex be considered a human right like access to water is ? But all those things require another person and it’d infringe on their human rights to force them to participate…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:57 AM
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And young men have a tendancy to go for the extraverted, highly sexual young women who are not marriage oriented. Meanwhile the quiet, discreet women get overlooked. Young people make short sighted decisions. More news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:42 AM
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The question is nonsensical. What is the value of anyone staying for their kids ? Kids are a duty not something you extract value from you chose to have kids so you raise them. It’s your duty. The value is mostly non tangible things like love and a sense of accomplishments. If those arent enough "value" for you then don’t have them. Or be a deadbeat and dissappear but then you have no right to complain about how women raise them like OP is. Hence the original question : why don’t men just raise …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:39 AM
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Why have kids if you see no value in raising them ? Why the heck do I need to explain to you why should raise the kids you chose to bring into tge world especially if you believe their mother is doing a shit job ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 08:02 AM
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If you are going to ignore evidence based research i cannot discuss with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:27 AM
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It’s not a reward for good behavior. You either attractive or you are not. Based on that women choose to have sex with you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:26 AM
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Yes, they’re usually good looking and charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:03 AM
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The post says "Women raise their sons to be slaves to women" And the OP said " well then why can’t men just raise their sons then" In that scenario, the way I understand it, the kids are made, just raise them who cares if your wife no longer has libido, save your sons from slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:32 PM
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Three things : Many simply do not know. Just like quite frankly many men do not give good dating advice to women. Each gender are better at giving relationship maintenance advice. Most men do not want to hear it from women. Many men have very negative visceral reactions when women say facts plainly. Ex : when were teens my brother was struggling with girls. My eldest sister told him the classic bs. I told him he needed to change his atrocious haircut and that he did not know how to read the room…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:22 PM
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They do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:16 PM
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Sex is based on attraction. So they have sex with men they find attractive.sex is not a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:15 PM
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All else being equal being agreeable helps you get a mate more easiky and people with personality disorders struggle more to find partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:31 PM
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And women choose the hot ones and men pursue the hot ones. What's your point ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:29 PM
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Science says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:05 PM
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The chads and players are hot enough that women ignore their behaviors. It’s not that behavior is "rewarded". Just like, men say they don’t want high maintenance, mind games playing, makeup wearkng, attention seeking, manipulative women with high body counts but these women never seem to be single. These people were attractive to begin with and their partners choose to ignore their bad sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:09 PM
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Men created the system because they want pussy. They created a scaricity situation and offered their work as a solution to the problem they created in order to get pussy in exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:57 PM
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There is no value in raising your kids ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:47 AM
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The introverted quiet guy / super extroverted girl is such a common pairing. Introverted doesn’t mean socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:10 AM
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Also, aren’t you the guy who told me he was desengaging from society and women ? Go do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:04 AM
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The way I see it, once you have the kids you have aldready procreated so nothing stops you from raising your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:25 AM
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We mostly look at it as "i make more money than you so asking me to do more at home makes no sense"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:07 AM
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The funniest ones are those who want you to stop working and dow size your life so they can be the provider. Thanks God my partner has more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:07 AM
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How do you explain then, that women despite being conditionned too rejected their gender role, but men seem happy with theirs ? Probably because that role suits them or is at the very least better than the alternative of raising kids
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:05 AM
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Must everything men do be motivated by what gets them laid ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:02 AM
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Men don’t provide anymore most household are 2 parents working households.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:59 AM
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Getting attention as a woman is easy. Existing gets you attention, that’s not how you evaluate if you are successful in dating as a woman. I have written in a comment down below why it’s ineffective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:51 AM
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So was Titanic and that colleen grovers book about a girl dating a homesless guy was also a best seller. When one niche gets cateres to they usually heavily show up. I agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:58 PM
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That’s a niche but of course you guys focused on that and not on the very famous one when she leaves the one who treats her like an object to be bought to be with a poor guy (Titanic). My point anyways is that men cannot complain about being generalized based on few examples and then turn around and do the same to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:52 PM
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From immediatly to a few weeks based on where I am in my reproductive cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:44 PM
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"Im running out of counter argument so i am escaping"*
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:42 PM
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"What's stopping them from signing up? Oh yeah, they don't want to face danger and would rather have men do" Almost as if, when given the chance people would rather do not so tiring labour. When faced with better options, men don’t do these jobs either. This just boils down to more men not having other qualifications. By the same token, men would rather leave the thankless care work to women. Feel free to be a maid, elderly careworker, nurse. Seems like for whatever reasons men would rather risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:45 PM
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" goes even far beyond the fact that women still outsource the roles of dangerous work to men while crying about being oppressed" This has been an overused argument. Those men get paid. I don’t see how this has any relevance. In this day and age, war mean getting bombed. Meaning civil casualities have never been this high. Women and kids suffer just as much as soldiers now since ww2 which is a very new development. "Male loneliness? Women mock them over it." Usually only when a man has obnoxious…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:58 AM
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That’s not true and rven if it was you are all born out of a woman so you were the original leech.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 09:10 AM
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I cannot speak for all women but I don’t think most leave addicts because they look weak. And in general I don’t think women leave men because of they vulnerabilities ( id say most some probably do). In drug addiction scenario the issue isn’t the weakness, it’s the lying, the selfishness, sometimes the violence and/or neglect, the stealing, the putring rhe drugs over your loved ones. It’s a lot. Congratulations on your sobriety !
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:58 AM
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Musicians so people with money, resource and working in a field where it’s somewhat okay to do your job under the influence. I am confused by your 2nd paragraph so I have no comment to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:36 AM
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Every woman is white and every black/poc person is a man I see. Interesting way to trivalize women issues also. Men like you deserve loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:33 AM
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The age keeps growing. It used to be 25, then 30 now it’s 35. But the truth is women don’t rely on corporate jobs for fufillment. They rely on it to make money and use it to do what fulfills them in their free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:22 AM
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People do that to women by the time they’re 17. You will survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:00 AM
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The heroin thing is a terrible example because addivts rarely recover. Men or women I would strongly encourage to not get with an addict. They destroy their lives and those of their loved ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:51 PM
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That’s not what moving the goalpost is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:36 PM
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First example is a teen saving kids not man doing anything for a woman so I'll ignore it. The second I guess does fall into this category but exceptions don’t cancel the rule. There are way more men wanking in their room and listening to Andrew Tate than dudes doing free labour for women. So I will not do any for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:56 PM
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To make things clearer here is how I used the term. Pick me = a woman who acts against her own interests to get noticed and picked by men. Ex of pick me behaviors : not having any standards, act like you are okay with non comittal relationships when you are not, tolerating disrespect, performing traditionally feminine while also doing most of the breadwinning berating and mistreating other women to get males attention and favors. Those pick me women usually give everything for free so they never…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:47 PM
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Define what being a pick me is to you because I suspect we are not talking about the same thing. Too many of you seem to equate acting agreeable or flirty with being a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:12 PM
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That’s not what being a pick me is. That’s just flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:11 PM
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You get rewarded by society with money. Women not fucking you is not abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:10 PM
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This usually happens in time of wars when they were forced to. And today it’s mostly men who do it as their job. They do it for the money and prestige. Mind you I don’t even expect them to do anything for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:40 PM
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Can you point to a woman for whom it works being a pick me ? Because I haven’t seen any. They’re either single or treated like shit by their partners. I also think there is a misscharacterization of what a pick me is because I was hanging in the spaces that coined the term (black divesters) and it seems like it’s now used to describe something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:17 PM
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Not really I still have yet to see a man do free labour in real life. Mind you I don’t even want them to, i just want them to leave women in peace
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:48 PM
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The worrying numbers of sexual harassments in feminist organozations, the amount of men boasting the fact they pretend to be left leaning to get laid. And the fact that most men are not feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:39 PM
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Simping doesn’t work just like being a pick me doesn’t work. People with no boundaries don’t get good results. The problem is too many conflate acting decently with being a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:38 PM
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And they all expect sex in return from whichever woman they tryna impress at the time. Good for the cause but rarely expecting nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 06:35 PM
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Rage baiting mysoginistic men on the internet instead of my boyfriend while i pmsing has been great for my relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:20 PM
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What labour do they do ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:18 PM
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What isn’t true ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:16 PM
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Action and sci fi are usually violent, and yes objectifies the few woman who appear there. And when women draw the conclusion that men like violence and are neglectful partners you don’t like it. Yet, you draw negative conclusions based on women behaviors. Also they are way more women being in sports anime and games than men being into women stuff. You can’t even name any other woman interest beside love even though it’s not the genre liked by most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:15 PM
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Movies and games are seen as arts by litteraly anyone. My point anyways is that’s hypocritical to make generelise women based on the media they consume but to then get mad when men get generalised as enjoying violence and objectifying women based on what they consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:56 AM
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Average woman doesn’t care about HeforShe. That’s UN priviledged campaigns that no one cares about like most of what the UN does. I have yet to see a man do unpaid labour for anyone without ewpecting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:51 AM
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It isn’t. It just leads you to develop noble values like selflessness. It’s been shown that parents have more pro ciak behaviors than the childles. Saying this as lady who does not plan on having kids
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:48 AM
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We expect men to not cause problems not care about our problems. Aka don’t be violent, don’t discriminate based on gender, don’t expect me to do your unpaid labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:42 AM
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" i also disagree with your statement that men aren't willing to date an ugly woman, you may not realize just how many and how desperate some men can be..." Then how come ugly women rarely if ever get hit on or shown interest ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:36 AM
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It seems, that the best time to be a man was in the 70's and 80's where men really got to have their cake and eat it. There were women just fucking around and then there were still traditional women to find when it was time to settle. Men are complaining today cause they no longer get to have both. You either go the trad route, marry young, stay in a very religious community or you fuck around and get a woman who fucked around too and who'll never be traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:32 AM
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You are right actually because the men I know in real life have always advised eachother to make the best first impression. I only see this bs online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:27 AM
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Rodger wasn’t even ugly. If you had to put him somewhere he was average to good looking range. From his manifesto where he describes his childhood you get 3 insights : -he was materially spoiled but emotionally neglected and he had terrible social skills he needed therapy he never asked anyone out even once, he just expected things to fall into his lap
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:25 AM
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Yup and that’s when I go "so you agree then that I do not have the personality for marriage and kids" and that shuts them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:21 AM
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The media created didn’t even lie to them. The nerd has some baseline of attractiveness, he gets picked only once the hot dude does something too heinous to be ignored. Essentially making that nerd a second choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:19 AM
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In Disney movies, the prince that gets the woman is good looking and usually has a higher status than her. The nerds in movies are always somewhat good looking and always have good hygiene. Men are bad at reading subtext and get mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:16 AM
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I love answering "I know" in a very flat tone when someone says "But you're so pretty"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:14 AM
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My comment is referring to the stories liked by men so I don’t know what are you talking about. And if you cannot understand what a sex object is, I guess you need to go back to first grade because it’s just a reading comprehension problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:10 AM
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The point isn’t wether it’s art. I think both is. My point is it’s hypocritical to say that all women have a certain behavior based on observations and then be mad when the same is done to men. Most men enjoy violence and would rape anyone if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:40 AM
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Those movies are also very violent and present women as sex objects but when feminists point this out you all say #notallmen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:18 AM
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And the patriarchy and feminism are also things women observe for themselves but you all want to believe it’s some sort of global hysteria. And to your point, comments section and different forums men participate in are full of woman hate. So when women criticize the red pill it’s also based on observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:12 AM
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Nothing’s stopping him from doing it. He is just not entitled to get it just because he worked hard. It’s a shit deal for the 18-25 girl to agree to it unless she is extremely poor though and people are entitled to say it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:09 AM
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"Imagine if women would support, if men ever made babies. We won't get a penny." Women are less pressured to contribute financially but are pressured to take care of the random kids their fuckboy brothers/sons and until recently husbands would bring. And if men do not want to be responsible for the kids, they can stop passing down the names and meddling into women buisness. The abortion issue should be voted by female politicians only. Having kids is not in women’s benefit but in society’s benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:58 AM
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I am not toxic I would say. I might be you never know but that’s not the feedback I got from those men. They are delighted about my personnality at first and I am usually the one breaking up when I realize that they like ot but at the end of the day they stil’ need some sort of traditionalism and try to change me. I make jokes about my own traumas not not the mens. I don’t make them butts of the jokes as individuals. But, usually their innapropriate jokes also include stuff like slightly racist …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 07:36 AM
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As a pretty masculine woman : men like the fantasy of a masculine woman. Not what it actually entails. Low maintenance = never as good looking as she could be if she tried. Most women look average in their fully natural form. No drama = will not tolerate the chaos many men bring into women's life. No oversensitivity = all fun and games until that no oversensitivity is expected to be both ways. Males are extremzly sensitive about many subjects and generally don’t handle comments made by women wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:33 AM
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This is a myth. Very few woman believe men are after anything else but looks. It’s just that what men want is quite irrelevant because they made clear that most would date, fuck and marry anyone with a pulse
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:17 AM
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"or their fictional characters crushes and you discover readily that men actually like the bad bitch archetype, a mix of dedicated super heroes and hot headed strong willed protagonists, and sarcastic no filter characters. Or the career driven charismatic character, the strict no bullshit milf or the law breaker rebellious college girl." Those women are usually very attractive physically and still have feminine traits like being very pro social or selfless . As a dominant woman, they do not like…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:15 AM
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Get off dating apps and meet organically. That’s the real dating advice. Yes it’s harder but it’s less dehumanizing, fits women attraction better and more rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:05 AM
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Regardless, innocence comes with inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:36 PM
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If it was just about promiscuous behavior, men wouldn’t mention women being innocent as an asset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:49 PM
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Men value inexperience. Inexperienced women are not good in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:22 AM
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Yup. That’s why you make it a volunteering thing like in many countries. Those are more efficient too. And the only reason they don’t send women to war is because they give birth and replenish the new warriors. Feel free to find a way for men to do that. Equality hasn’t even excisted for a hundred year so that’s innacurate. I've actually seen states collapse. Women did better at actually maintaining civilization. The men just became drunkards and used the draft to justify all their terrible acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:14 PM
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I'm not offended, I just think it’s an uneffective way to date. Sex work simply isn’t the same as having sex with people you are attracted to so it simply isn’t the same
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:05 PM
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They are untitled to do whatever they want. I just think they’re bound to miss out on good relationships over something stupid. Also, it’s something that is so easy to lie about/hide. There are more effective ways to vet for someone who is more attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:09 PM
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Feel free to advocate and defend against the draft. Women did not come up with it so your anger is missguided. The system is faulty and should fail anyways, no one is happy under it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:05 PM
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Because you getting your feelings hurt over something that has nothing to do with you. No one talked about dating sex workers. Let’s have nuance here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:01 PM
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Men will also have to embrace modernity then. You better spend the hours and money women spend to get ready for a date. You better have domestic skills. You better be good in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:59 AM
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Yes, because it sounds like the thing was targeted towards you specifically so being offended makes sense. I was talking about someone doing one thing then changing their mind and systematically doing something else with every new date from then on
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:35 AM
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You are entitled to pick whoever you want at the end of the day, I just think it’s unhealthy to take new standards so personally. I also find this discussion wildly theoretical as unless we live in small communities, most of us will never know how our partners behaved with their exes. And once we do we are usually too far into the relationship for it to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:27 AM
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Still no reason to be insulted. She probably decided that from then on she'll date a certain way and you happened to be the guy she liked right after that decision. I get not wanting to be chaperoned and you refusing to date her but I do not get feeling insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:25 AM
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You people need to understand that people are allowed to realize a behavior is reckles and to choose to correct it even if they like you. If I choose that ill stop eating chips for dinner everyday because it’s bad for my health but insread have it once a week as a snack it doesn’t mean i no longer like chips
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:41 AM
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All of these are sensationalized anecdotes. "And what happened to "equality" all of a sudden?" Ukraine is still very traditional so I don’t know what you are on about. "All women of a fighting age should be drafted, just like ukrainian men are right now" No they shouldn’t. There should be no draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:30 AM
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"Ukrainian men are getting killed defending their women, while their women are "just having fun" with american and european guys" Where is this meme coming from ?First of, ukrainian men are defending themselves and their territory first, and fight a war that was drcided by other men. Secondly only a subset of ukrainian women are in Europe. Most are getting bombed and trying to survive and keep regular service going. of the minority that is in Europe, most are with their kids trying to assure the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:47 PM
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You are taking the problem upside down. A sizeable portion of Those men no matter how useful they were for society were a nightmare to live with as individuals. Women started getting degrees and office jobs to make money for themsemves and not have to deal with those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:42 PM
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But how does that translate to being a good partner ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:39 PM
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The bargain sucked for women hence the rise of feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:35 PM
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This, this sub everyday makes me realize that men need women to agree with them on everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:29 AM
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