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Keep in mind, the majority of white women voted for Trump. No, most women are not like the ones you see online
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:31 PM
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You can prefer whatever you want. Talking to people in public isn't unlawful or even socially unacceptable. Maybe you don't remember when smartphones weren't a popular thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:17 PM
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In a society? lol I once had a woman come up to me to ask about rent prices in the area. Another stopped me to ask about the necklace I was wearing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:06 PM
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Because we've never observed men bothering other men in public You must be sheltered because men make small talk with each other all the time. I also think the point about attractiveness is spot on Nobody reasonable thinks attractiveness doesn't matter. The issue is that you don't know ahead of time if someone finds you attractive because everyone has their own preferences. This is actually BP advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:56 PM
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Your situation walking to the subway doesn't match the first woman's. You told the guy you weren't interested and he kept going. The first woman is saying no men have the right to approach her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:54 PM
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Before sex, men are more invested. After sex, women are more invested. It's awfully convenient that's only wrong after women are invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:20 AM
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Lol a lot of women reject/ghost men with no explanation, and they're supposed to accept it. You're not entitled to date anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:44 AM
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The other issue is that women who want to have children in their 30's know that their time is running out. They might not even like a guy all that much but will settle because there's no option left. Men don't want to date women who are desperate and settling for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 08:09 PM
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Nope. Since you just can't help yourself, you should listen to the other guy and just stay quiet about it. That's the problem with radical feminists. They can't help but think that just because they personally dislike something, that thing must be objectively bad (or sexist etc). Something can be legal and still be objectively bad. If you insist on painting it that way, then you really are just putting on a whiny victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:34 AM
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It's fine to dislike it and even voice an opinion about it, as long it's clear you understand that it's a personal preference. Most women won't be unhinged enough to call for men to be imprisoned. But they will say borderline unhinged things like how it's sexist, objectifying women, harassment etc. This absolutely does discourage naive men who are taught that they should be feminist "allies" and never make any woman uncomfortable. A more level headed take would be to say "I personally don't like…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:42 AM
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Many of you seem to be selectively forgetting that OP had a key finding that does support women's stances on dating in the form of how men reacted to his job title. Nice try, but he literally said he only told a "couple" of men his title. It'd be one thing if he told.them all and most of them bailed. And we dont even know what the title is. For all we know, it could be "homicide lawyer"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 12:09 AM
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Irl, the men I know who are actually having sex and forming relationships with women a lot younger than themselves are really respectful, decent and actually pretty private about it. But you'll notice here, they like to scream about it and really try to weaponize it against women they're debating: "we don't want ugly old bitch hags", etc. Just like how the women here love to weaponize younger womens' higher value by painting these men as predators or losers "who can't get men their own age". In …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:57 PM
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Sure, that's why you're bitching about a sub where women who clearly doing shitty things get their comeuppance
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:29 PM
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Women get drunk and want to have sex. News at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:28 PM
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While I don't read that sub, at least 3 posts on the front page are about female teachers getting busted for having sex with her young male students. It says more about you that you're upset that people find gratification in women like that receiving their due justice. As a bonus, you even bring up "attractive and young" as if that should have have any bearing on how people feel about their actions lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:19 PM
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Quit making stuff up. https://www.jlegal.org/blog/is-drunk-sex-considered-rape-under-california-law/ Total Incapacitation is Required | Is Drunk Sex Considered Rape? In California, being drunk does not automatically mean someone cannot consent. Prosecutors must prove an alleged victim was incapacitated or unable to resist due to intoxication. Memory loss, fragmentary recollection, vomiting, or stumbling is generally not sufficient to prove incapacitation. Blackout vs. Unconsciousness According t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:01 PM
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Then you shouldn't have brought up one drink because that's not what we're talking about. You can have a lot more and still consent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:18 PM
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I'd say not being able to remember the man's name the next day is more than "a bit drunk". The dailymail did not do the survey. But you can wipe your ass with science as well https://www.nature.com/articles/369711a0?platform=hootsuite It is well known that acute alcohol increases subjective feelings of sexual arousal, excitement and desire . The controversial suggestion has been made that the sex steroid testosterone could be one factor involved in the basic regulation of these feelings and beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:33 PM
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My link specifically says memory loss is not enough to prove incapacitation. Of course each situation is different, but it's clear that one can be very drunk and still consent to sex. I don't know how you can live in the UK and not know that drunk sex is very common: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1215262/One-20-women-NEVER-sex-sober-lack-body-confidence.html?ITO=1490 Millions of women drink alcohol before having sex because they lack confidence in their bodies, a study has found. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:02 AM
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https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1982-27713-001 From this study, it seems that alcohol can make it harder for women to orgasm, but should they achieve it, the orgasm will be more pleasurable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:48 AM
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I would have thought it was common knowledge, but California has one of the most progressive state legislatures. But sure, feel free to say which other states do it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:46 AM
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Rape laws reflect the common sense statement I made. https://www.jlegal.org/blog/is-drunk-sex-considered-rape-under-california-law/ Total Incapacitation is Required | Is Drunk Sex Considered Rape? In California, being drunk does not automatically mean someone cannot consent. Prosecutors must prove an alleged victim was incapacitated or unable to resist due to intoxication. Memory loss, fragmentary recollection, vomiting, or stumbling is generally not sufficient to prove incapacitation. Blackout …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:42 AM
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she won't be enthusiastic if she's blackout drunk though. You know perfectly well where the limit is and arguing about this smells rapey. Thanks for putting your ignorance on full display. You do not even know what blackout means. It simply means you won't have memory of the events later. You can still be coherent and aware during said events. That's why the link I posted explicitly says you can still possibly consent even if you black out. You don't even realize how bad you make your side look …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:37 AM
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Someone could be enthusiastic while drunk and not sober. Science confirms this. People have consensual drunk sex all the time. People are allowed to have all the meh sex they want. You. Don't. Get. To. Impose. Your. Beliefs. On. Others. then you deserve some rape allegations for being an asshole Let's apply your logic elsewhere. "If a woman acts a certain way, leads a man on, drinks until she's knocked out, she deserves what she gets. Because she doesn't follow my moral beliefs". See how insane …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:13 AM
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casually tosses a word around like confetti "BuT wHY dOn't pEopLe bElieVe wAhmEn???"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:54 AM
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Women get drunk and want to have sex. News at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:52 AM
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How many cases of drunk casual sex do you think involve only 1 beer? The law certainly allows for more than that. https://www.jlegal.org/blog/is-drunk-sex-considered-rape-under-california-law/ Total Incapacitation is Required | Is Drunk Sex Considered Rape? In California, being drunk does not automatically mean someone cannot consent. Prosecutors must prove an alleged victim was incapacitated or unable to resist due to intoxication. Memory loss, fragmentary recollection, vomiting, or stumbling i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:36 AM
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When men here have complained about their difficulties getting sex, women will criticize them for being straight edge and boring. They'll say "Do you go to any events where alcohol and drugs are involved? There's your problem." But now, apparently it's rape lmao. The thing is, those women are actually right. As studies have shown (as well as common sense for anyone who doesn't live under a rock), casual sex and alcohol are strongly linked. You can clutch your pearls all you want, but society kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:20 AM
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You keep bringing up charges when you clearly don't understand the law https://www.jlegal.org/blog/is-drunk-sex-considered-rape-under-california-law/ Total Incapacitation is Required | Is Drunk Sex Considered Rape? In California, being drunk does not automatically mean someone cannot consent. Prosecutors must prove an alleged victim was incapacitated or unable to resist due to intoxication. Memory loss, fragmentary recollection, vomiting, or stumbling is generally not sufficient to prove incapac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:16 AM
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You don't know the law and need to quit making stuff up. Drunk people do not assault each other. https://www.jlegal.org/blog/is-drunk-sex-considered-rape-under-california-law/ Total Incapacitation is Required | Is Drunk Sex Considered Rape? In California, being drunk does not automatically mean someone cannot consent. Prosecutors must prove an alleged victim was incapacitated or unable to resist due to intoxication. Memory loss, fragmentary recollection, vomiting, or stumbling is generally not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:12 AM
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If you’re asking for these specificities you’re probably trying to figure out what you can get away with bc you’re a predator lmao Nice attempt to deflect with insults when you got schooled about the law
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:10 AM
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Studies have shown that alcohol can increase a woman's libido and her enjoyment of sex. But you're right in a sense. It's why the law says drunk people can still consent. If a woman really didn't want to have sex, like you, then she simply wouldn't, regardless of how much she's been drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:02 AM
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When men here have complained about their difficulties getting sex, women will criticize them for being straight edge and boring. They'll say "Do you go to any events where alcohol and drugs are involved? There's your problem." But now, apparently it's rape lmao. The thing is, those women are actually right. As studies have shown (as well as common sense for anyone who doesn't live under a rock), casual sex and alcohol are strongly linked. You can clutch your pearls all you want, but society kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:58 AM
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It is not only possible but even common that someone could be enthusiastic in the moment but regret it the next day
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:57 AM
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Regret is not valid justification for making false accusations
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:54 AM
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When men here have complained about their difficulties getting sex, women will criticize them for being straight edge and boring. They'll say "Do you go to any events where alcohol and drugs are involved? There's your problem." But now, apparently it's rape lmao. The thing is, those women are actually right. As studies have shown (as well as common sense for anyone who doesn't live under a rock), casual sex and alcohol are strongly linked. You can clutch your pearls all you want, but society kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:51 AM
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if they wouldn't have slept with the woman under the makeup. Lol, you have got to be kidding me. Bring that up at a police station and you'll be rightfully laughed out in a heartbeat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:36 PM
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Ya, it's called common sense. Otherwise, any half-truth or exaggeration told during a date.that leads to sex could lead to to a rape charge. The best thing to do is not have sex unless you're attracted and also to not expect to get anything out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:33 PM
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Voting and being preyed upon by a much older man aren't really the same in amount of risk Correct. A bad vote can harm millions of people. At least with a bad dating choice, you only hurt yourself maybe 18 year olds shouldn't be send into war You can dream all you want. But young men make the best soldiers and one of the be biggest motivation to join is to kickstart your career.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:33 AM
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When you start sussing out real values, beliefs, character, and worldviews early you start to see you’re not compatible with a lot of people. Yep, this is why people who argue against age gap relationships on the basis of compatibility are dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:14 AM
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women who get pump and dumped repeatedly are those who lack good relationship qualities even if they don't realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:35 AM
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Sorry to say, but if you keep getting pump and dumped, you probably don't have the relationship qualities that you think you do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:54 PM
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That doesn't change the premise. The way to get good at handling rejection is to approach and get rejected enough to get used to it. Since women don't have to learn this for one reason or another, they're not going to handle it well when it does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:26 PM
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The 1 in 6 is a myth. The vast majority of rape in college is through drinking and partying , not some guy approaching and getting rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:22 PM
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If that happens every time you approach, you're approaching out of your league
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:19 PM
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Lol, that's even worse. You already know the guy in person, but would do shady online digging on him? And the OP is clearly asking about a case where you don't know the other person, which is wherr an online presence would even matter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:12 PM
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I assume you can't get it taken away for being rude to a date Are you saying that instead of acting like a normal person and going on a date to see if the other person is nice, you would message and ask some random friend of the guy on social media? If you were caught doing that, you would be the one with the red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 11:36 PM
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5) You can typically tell within the first minute if she likes what she sees or not. If her eyes are flat and her facial expression looks slightly let down, it's dead. This is the main reason a lot of us guys just want to meet ASAP. No need to spend week(s) texting if it gets all thrown out the window within the first few minutes of the first date anyways. This is a good endorsement for cold approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:25 PM
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Never said karening is illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:00 PM
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The other day, a woman stopped me to ask about rent prices in the area. Another time, one stopped me to ask about my bracelet. You live in a society, people will talk to you. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:54 PM
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Because some women hate men after being pump-n-dumped, watch too much CSI or lifetime, or think that posting on instagram is a form of socializing. No, I will not assume any woman I meet is damaged or deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:45 PM
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They're free to live in the woods if they don't want to interact with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:29 PM
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It requires the ability to read the situation, read the person, This ability is gained from approaching and learning. These are things men used to learn at a young age. However, an important fact is that even if someone is perfectly socially calibrated, the approach still might not be received well. This is something men need to understand, along with all the anti-approach feminist nutjobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:42 PM
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The twitter post that some man responded to said the woman has the qualities "money, a dream job, beautiful, smart, and funny," Where does it say she is kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:17 AM
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Sure, if I look hard enough on Twitter, I can find a man who says he likes fat women. This is some incel shit and it's "shocking" that it's a woman defending it. If you're single cuz you're driving people away, what's more likely? It's them or it's you? BTW, upon looking at your post again, nowhere does it say the woman is kind and pleasant. You entire point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:37 AM
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Yes, people are always truthful on the internet. They'll never say stuff to provoke a reaction or to make themselves sound tough. Get real. A woman who is hot and pleasant isn't going to stay single for very long. Just like a man who is successful and physically attractive isn't going to have much trouble finding a partner. People who tell themselves they're single because they're "too good" for others are almost certainly delusional about their own worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:54 AM
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Nah, posts from twitter trolls don't mean a thing. I'd like to see a man actually turn down a hot, pleasant woman who's genuinely into him. This is a coping mechanism that some women tell themselves. The reality is they really aren't that physically attractive and think their career will make up for it by projecting the qualities they desire onto men. Or they really are bitchy and lack the self-awareness to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:35 AM
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Lol funny seeing the cognitive dissonance of people who claim that younger women couldn't possibly like older guys while at the sex time bitching about the "problematic nature" of it. A young women has tons of options, we can agree on that. If she isn't attracted to a guy, she simply won't date him. If she does, then she is attracted. You can't force anyone to do anything when they got options
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:53 PM
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Attractive high-quality women are more secure about themselves so they're often ok with your advances. Low quality women, especially those who have been pump and dumped a lot, feel like your advances confirm their low-quality, if they don't find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:10 AM
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Anyone can be bothered, stranger or not. Anyone can not feel like talking whether they're "going about their day" or not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:07 AM
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It’s an example of me finding men my age more attractive. Nobody cares what you want to do. It's about minding your own business and not making assumptions about others' relationships. Especially when you yourself admit that you have no experience with age-gap relationships. He was predatory. He worked at the university. Married a girl from it and still tried cheating on her with other women from the university. He even inserted himself into my personal life befriending my bf and asking intimate…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:08 AM
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Right, an article written by a woman for a woman's magazine (that is also known for posting pro-feminist content) is some conspiracy to convince women to do things for the benefit of men. It couldn't just be that you have cognitive dissonance over the fact that some women do indeed like older men and benefit from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:59 AM
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You guys also want women more than they want you so you would do it anyways. It really isn’t about our expectations of you. Lol, there absolutely are expectations, both biological and cultural. A woman who really likes a guy will make it easy for him and enthusiastically reciprocate his advances, but it's usually still up to him to make the first move. I just gave you examples where this wasn’t the case (I did not date them). If you didn't date them, then they're not examples. If you didn't date…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:19 AM
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Older women don't want younger men. Also, if she makes enough that she could be a provider for her partner, she would still want her partner to make just as much if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:53 AM
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I know men are pursuing women more than the other way around especially young women Men are always expected to do the "pursuing" in courtship so this statement is meaningless. The point is that people in age-gap relationships meet and date the same way people do in similar-age relationships. Telling men young women find them attractive is misguiding because that is not the usually the case Men who have attractive qualities (looks, money, status, social skills etc) will be attractive to a broad s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:19 AM
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As research shows, most men are not interested in teenagers. They prefer women in their mid-20's. I have never respected an older man pursuing me. I have respected older men acting mature with restraint and even fell in love with one. Yes, the vast majority of age-gap relationships do not start with the older partner creeping on someone. They start because two people happen to meet and get along well regardless of age. Accusing people of manipulation when you know nothing about the couple is exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:34 AM
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It's not hypocrisy just because someone disagrees. It's hypocrisy because it's hypocrisy. More freedom and power means more responsibility. Your examples aren't even good because things like drinking and smoking can hurt other people. If you choose the wrong person to date, at least you only hurt yourself. Furthermore, if you want to restrict people's dating choices because you think they don't know any better, then you should just not allow them to date period. If you don't think they have good…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:40 PM
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It is hypocritical and trolling. Both people on the right and left do it. Those on the right believe in personal liberty but love to ban things like drugs. Those on the left believe in.enpowering women by saying they have the capacity to vote, take leadership positions etc. But they also think women don't have the capacity to decide who to date. Age-gap relationships are obviously not illegal so the debate is on the so-called morality issue. So it's perfectly reasonable to call people out on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:44 PM
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Age is simply one of many things to consider when choosing who to date. Some place high importance on it over other things. Some don't. And why come to a debate sub if you don't want to debate, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:57 PM
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Lol, supposedly no younger woman wants to date an older man, but at the same time we have to warn them about "manipulation". Look in the mirror indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:31 PM
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The smoking age should be lowered as well. Obviously, the laws aren't perfect. But people are concern trolling if they think someone is old enough to choose what to vote for but are being manipulated and abused if they choose to date someone older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:42 PM
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Right, and nobody is going to buy that a woman is mature enough to be on a jury and potentially put someone behind bars or cast votes that affect millions of people, but she isn't mature enough to decide who she wants to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:00 PM
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Lol, nobody is imposing themselves on young women. You can't impose yourself on someone who has tons of options to choose from besides you. At that age, women have the most options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:57 PM
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Buying alcohols for underage people is illegal so of course you would get blamed lol. A better example would be if you were all of age and drinking together and they did something stupid. Then no, it's not your fault
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:53 PM
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Ok? You can do whatever you want. Not sure why you're bitching about double standards. This thread was about what men should do if they encounter certain types of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 01:37 AM
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There is therapy to help people manage their neurodivergence. If you can manage it for your job, then you can manage it when dating. It's also a separate thing from lack of confidence, which you certainly have control over. It doesn't matter what you think of shy men. The majority of women are turned off by them. So you should blame women, not TRP. But hey, there's nothing to stop you from putting your money where your mouth is by approaching and taking the lead with shy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:15 PM
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A man like that should take responsibility for himself, self improve, and fix his issues. Even TRP would tell him that. It's funny and ironic that you would bring up double standards. It's no secret that women look down on me who are shy and lack confidence. But now men are supposed to show extra patience and consideration for these types of women? And these women with their woe-is-me attitude don't even have to approach and initiate, which men are still expected to do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:51 PM
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She's either not into you or she's playing games. For most men, either one means the best thing to do is walk away
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:49 PM
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Depends what you mean by pick-me-up. If a pick-me-up is simply a woman with traditional beliefs or who can empathize with a man's perspective, then plenty of them are in relationships or married
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:11 PM
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If she's that bad about it, it would negatively affect your dates and/or relationship, so she's not worth the time anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:47 PM
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Sorry to say, but attractive or not, she probably wasn't that into you. A single bad joke or kiss isn't going to turn a yes into a no it's not like you kicked a puppy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:47 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "constantly failing". If 1 out of 10 women will go out with you, that's not failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:41 PM
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Nice job changing the subject because you couldn't read the first time. Most men will be rejected by most women. It could be due to incompatibility, her standards, or whatever. A man messages a woman to see if he meets her standards and is compatible with her. Whether he messages a woman's friend or some woman that this woman will never meet doesn't matter. Now, it's true that messaging women's friends will make them feel a certain way even if it's not rational, so if he's smart, he'll be discre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:38 PM
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No, they are genuinely nice. They'll become friends with you, add you on social media etc. Just cause your past makes you paranoid and think everyone is faking it all the time doesn't mean that's reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:48 AM
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I didn't mention anything about slutiness. Attractive women are often nicer when approached than average or ugly women. Insecurity plays a big role
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:16 AM
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Because if there is, at the moment, 30 women of various age, education levels, style, physical features, economical background, cultural background, hobby having, etc. that he sees as potential suitable partner, it means that his views on what is a suitable partner is basically a living human being with a vagina. The whole point is to see if any of the 30 women have compatible education, background, hobby etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:08 AM
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This used to be pretty much effortless for most people, but today’s society has killed a lot of organic social interaction, and that’s why we’re seeing the problems with dating today. Approaching in person was also not unusual back in the day. Hell, the ancient Romans wrote about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:04 AM
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There's a reason women who get pump-n-dumped a lot react the most harshly to being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:03 AM
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Except being a "jizz receptacle" costs you a few days while marriage/kids can cost you a lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:00 AM
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Did you read properly? He's not saying he's pissed at her for saying no, he's pissed that she would get mad and try to shame him for talking to other women after she said no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:57 AM
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Just because these women don't like a guy talking to other women doesn't mean they have any problem sleeping around themselves lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:53 AM
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Being able to talk to strangers not only takes guts but good conversational skills. It's hardly something that shows lack of self respect
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:49 AM
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Ever heard of talking to someone to get to know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:45 AM
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Ever heard of talking to someone to get to know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:44 AM
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Beauty standards might affect people's perception of what their dream partner might look like but there's a difference between having a preference and specifically sexualizing someone based on their race alone Physical appearance is obviously tied to race. A guy who likes darker skinned woman might date black and Latina women. . It wasn't a perk or a plus, it was mandatory. Uh, many women have a mandatory requirement for race even if they don't say it out loud. A common case is women who will on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:54 PM
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Preferences in appearance are different from a fetish When people talk about race, they're often implying certain characteristics in appearance Asian women are fetishized As men assume they will be submissive. You're going completely off topic. OP never said she stereotyped him. A guy can like the appearance of asians without making any assumptions about personality. When it’s one characteristic that trumps all others it’s a fetish. Again, OP never said it was the only thing she liked about him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:49 PM
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At the end of the day, it's just attraction based on physical characteristics. You don't think when a woman fantasizes about her dream guy, he isn't someone of her own race (or in many cases, a talk white guy)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:34 PM
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At the end of the day, it's just attraction based on physical characteristics. You don't think when a woman fantasizes about her dream guy, he isn't someone of her own race (or in many cases, a talk white guy)?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:34 PM
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"Hey, nice watch man" "Shut up asshole, I don't care what you think" Lol You can date or not date whoever you want. Just be aware that any man, no matter how "honest" or good-quality you think he is, will have other women in his life who he will "say the same thing to".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:38 PM
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No, I expect her to accept a compliment like any well-adjusted person. If he says you're the most beautiful person ever, he's saying "I think you're beautiful". If he says you're the smartest person I ever met, he's saying "I think you're smart". When a friend comes over to your place for dinner and says "that was the best chicken I ever tasted!", do you say "Get out of my house with your obviously smarmy lies!"? Lol, and I thought men were the ones who lacked social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:25 PM
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Men pretend to like her, pretend they are interested in who she is Guess what? A man can be 100% genuine about this and still not want a relationship with her. That's what a lot of delusional women need to understand. Next time any rando claims “You’re the most (insert superlative here) I have ever seen” say “I know” or “Who gives a fuck what you think”. Wow, how dare someone use hyperbole in flirting? You're right. His reaction does tell a lot about him. The only thing a reasonable person would…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:09 PM
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Someone being nice to you is not a promise of a relationship. Some women here have even said having a vacation vacation paid for is "manipulation". Lol, you just had a trip paid for, you should be thankful many times over, not demand that you're owed more. The women who figure this out are the hardest to cold approach. On this, we can somewhat agree. Women who get repeatedly pump-n-dumped are harder to approach. But the reason for it is much more obvious. And the positive side-benefit of a cold …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:28 PM
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Nice try, but the level of a woman's attraction towards a man with another woman has been shown to be correlated with the attractiveness of the other woman. If it was simply about seeing if he has female friends, the attractiveness of the other woman should not be a factor. A man who's seen with an attractive woman will have more success than a man who's seen with an average or ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:03 AM
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What proof do you have that it hasn't affected the dating culture? The US is one of the fattest countries, and maybe the women wouldn't be if men had higher standards. Also, legal and culturally accepted are different things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:27 PM
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When women started to make more money (easier access to resources), their standards increased. If men have easy access to sex, their standards will also increase. I'm not sure why basic market economics is hard for people like you to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:21 AM
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When women started to make more money (easier access to resources), their standards increased. If men have easy access to sex, their standards will also increase. I'm not sure why basic market economics is hard for people like you to accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:18 AM
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Lol that's some grade A entitlement right there. "He said it, but I didn't want to believe it so it doesn't count! Now he dares have the audacity to do nice things for me so I'm owed commitment!" If you can't get a relationship, it's because you lack relationship qualities, not because you were lied to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:55 PM
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Yes, predatory younger women are a thing https://www.formyplan.com/predatory-marriage-phenomenon/ Not all young people are dumb and not all old people are smart. Not all young women are innocent and helpless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:34 AM
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But I will say as a young woman, the normal, mature ones of us who don’t have trauma or daddy issues, are not dating dudes that old Your "feels" are not reality. https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Febs0000064 The common belief that the women who choose much older partners because of having “daddy issues” was unfounded in this study. There was no significant difference in attachment styles between the 2 groups, and 74% of the women in age-gap relationships were securely attached. Res…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:13 AM
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The wikipedia page even gives several different hypotheses for age gaps and doesn't conclude that it's necessarily due to resources. https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/10/buss-1989-sex-differences-in-human-mate-preferences.pdf This study looks at the average preferred age gap for women across many different countries. There are some 3rd world countries where women prefer larger age gaps but this also occurs in some richer countries (e.g. in Europe). Taken as a whole, it does not suggest …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:24 PM
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The only reason that younger women would need ot date older men is out of economic necessity, which seems to be slowly disappearing in the west. https://www.demographic-research.org/articles/volume/41/15#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20These%20results%20suggest%20that,income%2C%20at%20least%20in%20Denmark. This study shows that a women's earnings in Denmark is not tied to age gap in her relationships. The study was done in Denmark, a country known for its gender equality. Other studies have shown that …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:40 PM
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Yes, for women. For men the peak is around 35. This lines up pretty well with what people say about the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:36 PM
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Research shows that mens' market value is later and doesn't drop as sharply as women's. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Impact-of-market-value-on-human-mate-choice-Paw%C5%82wski-Dunbar/b12e613ad59885160af4845d5a12b7be6481c539/figure/0 This is due to men being able to date at the same age or younger. That's what the wall is all about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:14 AM
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Just because a man can marry younger doesn't mean he will
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:07 AM
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It's not helpful to take that concern and express it like "These days it's guilty until proven innocent.", because that makes it sound like Constitutional law and due process has been destroyed when in reality its just public opinion being quick to judge the way it always has. Sorry, but this is a dumb take. In the past, if you were accused of something, at worse, it would only be known to your local community. Now, thanks to technology, the internet, social media, and MeToo, the whole world wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:05 AM
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Lol you ignore common sense social and biological truths supported by research. Who's the one relying on feels? The 2-3 gap is for marriage, and there are many reasons why men can go younger but choose not to..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:29 PM
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They're more attractive to their ACTUAL options. Sorry, research says otherwise https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Impact-of-market-value-on-human-mate-choice-Paw%C5%82wski-Dunbar/b12e613ad59885160af4845d5a12b7be6481c539/figure/0 You're likely never going to see this in your normal daily life Ha, even if this were true(which it isn't), it just means older women need to keep their mouths shut about this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:31 PM
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If a woman cares about starting a family, she won't disqualify a guy for being older. In fact, an older guy will likely have more resources which makes him a better parent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:25 PM
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Lol,now you're implying that older women are more attractive than older men. They don't usually have to because most young women don't want men outside their own age group. The general age Gap is 2 to 3 years. Cool, so if we see an older man dating a younger woman, she's clearly making the decision for herself. I'm glad we agree these jealous older women are simply concerned frolling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:22 PM
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So you're saying older women who use anti aging products are successfully making themselves more attractive to younger people, even more than older men? And if younger women don't date older men, why do women here have to "warn" younger women that older men are "manipulative predators", if they're uninterested anyway? Can't have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:37 PM
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Sure, that's why women spend so much more on anti-aging products
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:16 PM
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It's not. But some women here believe if the man leaves if she won't have sex, then he's "threatening" her to make her have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:10 PM
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This partly why it makes sense for older men to date younger women. Their libidos are more likely to be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:28 PM
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The issue is that women will throw a fit if the guy doesn't want her to "settle" and he refuses to play by her rules for unattractive men. For example, a guy will say "I don't want to be with a woman who's not sexually aroused by me, so if she withholds sex, I'm leaving". He's saying he doesn't want her to settle. A guy who posts this on Reddit will have men and women try to shame him. Many women here will even call it borderline rape i.e. "sexual coercion".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:37 PM
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Nope, 40-yr old women don't date 30 yr old men but the reverse isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:34 AM
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Two drunk people who have sex didn't SA each other just because neither remember what happened the next day. Learn to take responsibility for your own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:01 AM
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A guy who's tipsy and has sex isn't going to accuse the woman of assault even if he didn't enjoy it all that much. Same reason women aren't afraid of hugging and grabbing random mens' asses at a club. They know they won't get kicked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:59 PM
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She will probably have more suitors, since her peers divorce at a surprising rate. Lol, the delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:46 PM
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caring more about numbers than the individual woman Texting multiple women means he genuinely cares about the women, but meeting one or more women in person means he doesn't care? no idea, i'm 38 and have always socialized over aim/the internet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:58 AM
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Then what do you mean by playing a numbers game? How does texting multiple women not count as playing a numbers game? And you didn't answer the second question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:15 PM
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How do you know he's not texting multiple women? Before phones and texting were a big thing, was nobody ever getting to know each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:33 PM
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Depends where and when in public. In the middle of the workday? Probably not. At a festival? Might as well do it together
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:39 PM
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If you cold approach you don’t immediately ask to go on a date Assuming you're both free at the time, this is absolutely not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:12 AM
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Yep, when the wall and retirement approaches, it's easy to "figure out" what you really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:06 AM
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They are related because abortion can and is used to get out of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:29 AM
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If you have an argument where you're not trying to speak for other women, I'm willing to listen,
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:19 AM
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you're projecting your own issues onto young women. As typical, radical feminists screech at the top of their lungs about equality and empowerment when it benefits women, but when it comes time to take responsibility for yourself, women are now weak and helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:43 AM
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If disappointing someone scares you that much, you are not an adult who is ready to date, let alone have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:24 PM
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And if I willingly gave 2 blowjobs to someone and refused to leave his apartment, I wouldn't be upset if he thought I still wanted to have sex. The last thing I would do is act like a unhinged child and abuse the system by crying sexual assault to some clickbait tabloid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:09 AM
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Aziz's case where the girl willingly gave him 2 blowjobs, had multiple opportunities to leave with no pressure, and where they don't even have full-on sex? Ya, that's nowhere near 2 & 3 and should barely even be in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:19 PM
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You had a bad sexual experience, boo hoo. Learn from it and move on with your life. Compare that to injuring or killing someone else while driving or voting in policies that negatively affect millions of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 04:48 AM
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It's not unrealistic. Older women, especially attractive ones, can and do have sex with younger men. Some older men can and do have sex with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:52 PM
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That's BS. A 24 yr old woman with lots of dating experience will understand male psychology and what makes them tick. A 32 yr old guy who spent his life working and staying indoors playing video games isn't going to be able to manipulate anyone. Knowing how to manage your finances does jack shit in teaching someone how to manipulate others. If that was the case, all those STEM majors would be drowning in pussy and they're absolutely not. I might be older than Luka Doncic but he's still a way bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:10 PM
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Ok, but you still lose testosterone as you age
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:45 PM
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RAINN's spokesperson was Christina Ricci, who stuck up for amber heard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:42 PM
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It's what you mentioned If those men could have fucked a young inexperienced woman, they’d have done so years ago. OP’s advice is just as unrealistic as the gender swapped version.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:37 PM
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There is no scientific consensus on when the brain is fully developed and certainly no consensus on what is considered adulthood. Ironic that you mention hypocrisy. A woman is old and mature enough to vote, drink, and drive at 18, all of which can have great impact on society, but when it comes to something comparably insignificant like sex, she's too dumb and would be easily "groomed"? Should the age limit for all those things be raised to 27?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:32 AM
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Having lots of dating experience with the opposite sex is the biggest factor in determining whether or not someone will be good at "manipulating" their partner, which is what opponents of age-gap relationships are supposedly concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:27 AM
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Older women can easily fuck younger men if they wanted. It's not unrealistic at all
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:20 AM
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This isn't the gotcha that you think it is. Men generally don't give a shit if women want to date younger. Hell, many men when they were very young, fantasized about sleeping with older women. It's women themselves, if they're looking for something even semi-serious, who don't like the thought of dating much younger men. The people who bitch about age-gap relationships are mostly women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:18 AM
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I'll let science speak for me. https://honehealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Testosterone-Levels-By-Age-Chart-1024x1024.png
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:01 AM
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Right, there are no instances where a younger person manipulates an older person, even a older person who's much more successful. https://www.formyplan.com/blog/predatory-marriage-phenomenon/ Keep peddling the myth that young women have no agency and are always victims. Anyone can see through the hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:58 AM
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Lol, deny all you want. A 24 yr old woman who has been in multiple relationships and flings is going to have a way easier time manipulating her partner than some 30+ yr old guy who spent most of his life working and playing video games. This is pure hypocrisy and concern trolling from women who claim "the past doesn't matter" but dating younger is "grooming"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:03 AM
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Better to go with the person who has changed vs the person who might change.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:58 AM
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Ok, but you're not the norm. Most guys here will tell you that they were most horny when they were younger and didn't have the maturity to know how to control it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:36 AM
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Sure, but his argument is still valid if it's say a 32 yr old and a 24 yr old
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:34 AM
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Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything. Just don't bitch when two people get together consensually. And I always hear people bring up the compatibility argument, but when asked to elaborate, they're full of shit. There are many ways two people can be compatible or incompatible that have nothing to do with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:33 AM
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Maybe if he was 18 and chronically single. If a 25 yr old guy isnt chronically single and lonely, then he does have experience, and this post is about is about two inexperienced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:24 AM
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And for the things you mentioned age has an impact on compatibility. And as I explained, OP's idea isn't dumb if you want people to avoid getting manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:21 AM
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Did I say they were? I said the guys who are most bitter about women are younger single guys
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:18 AM
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Having lots of dating experience with the opposite sex is the biggest factor in determining whether or not someone will be good at "manipulating" their partner, which is what opponents of age-gap relationships are supposedly concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:14 AM
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Having lots of dating experience with the opposite sex is the biggest factor in determining whether or not someone will be good at "manipulating" their partner, which is what opponents of age-gap relationships are supposedly concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:13 AM
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She can easily find a guy of her age who doesn’t have years of experience of being lonely and possibly harboring resentment and bitterness towards dating and women. A guy that's lonely and experienced at her age has issues that are causing him to be to be single and lonely and he hasn't proven he can overcome them. The most bitter incels are young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:12 AM
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Having lots of dating experience with the opposite sex is the biggest factor in determining whether or not someone will be good at "manipulating" their partner, which is what opponents of age-gap relationships are supposedly concerned about. "wants to fool around and figure out what they want/explore sex and love" vs. "Looking to settle down and start a family". This supports the idea that if an older guy isn't ready to settle down, then it makes sense for him to date younger. Likewise, younger …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:08 AM
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A 30-year-old near-virgin is going to want to be more physical quicker than a 23-year-old virgin. Maybe if I were in my early 20s too I’d be more willing to go at her pace No, mens' sex drive decline with age. And assuming the older guy's mature, he's going to feel less like he has something to prove and sex is not going to be as big a deal. The increased likelihood of having matching libidos is an argument in favor of age-gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:03 AM
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It was never strictly defined, but the definition used here is simply "among the top % of men"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:27 PM
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date men of your age who are already earning well or will start earning well soon. Lol such men make up a small percentage of the population. Your advice is basically "just date chad"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:20 PM
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A very good looking guy who is socially awkward is 100% attractive to wome What if he's so awkward that he's deemed creepy or even dangerous? What if he's a serial killer? Sure, like those things wouldn't kill attraction for many people. Money never creates attraction. Do you have lots of money and have you tried leveraging it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:34 PM
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Just because it's possible to have power without money doesn't change the fact that money gives power
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:01 PM
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It's just pedantry at this point. Money indicates status and creates attraction. Saying that other things can lower attractiveness doesn't negate that. A good looking guy that's extremely socially awkward won't be that attractive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:58 AM
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People are attracted to athletes and celebrities because of their social standing which implies positive personality and physical traits, not because of their money Average looking celebrities still have status and are admired. And being a celebrity often has nothing to do with having a great personality. Status is all about how others view you. And if you have lots of money, people will admire and respect you more. Obviously, if you live in a richer society, you're going to have to have more mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:43 AM
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Men are afraid to ask women out or be sexual around them for fear of being accused of something. Financial abortions means women will be choosier on who they sleep with. I shouldn't have to explain prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:43 PM
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Men are afraid to ask women out or be sexual around them for fear of being accused of something. Financial abortions means women will be choosier on who they sleep with. I shouldn't have to explain prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:42 PM
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The women can just get an abortion. They'll be choosier about the men they choose to sleep with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:38 PM
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The women can just get an abortion. They'll be choosier about the men they choose to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:35 PM
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There is no way to completely rectify the situation, but you can give rights back to people who are already at a disadvantage. For example, anywhere abortion is legal financial abortion should also be legal, claims of sexual harassment or rape need to scrutinized and there needs to be punishment for making false claims, prostitution should be legalized etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:16 AM
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There is no way to completely rectify the situation, but you can give rights back to people who are already at a disadvantage. For example, anywhere abortion is legal financial abortion should also be legal, claims of sexual harassment or rape need to scrutinized and there needs to be punishment for making false claims, prostitution should be legalized etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:13 AM
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Starting an attempt to pick someone up is just talking to someone. Just like asking for the time, talking about the weather, or any other mundane conversation, it has no effect on someone. Only someone who's self-centered, neurotic, and thinks she has no right to be asked would consider it "validation".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:53 PM
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Only those who are extremely self-centered think they have the right to interrupt women because they desire attention and validation. You have the right to interrupt both men and women. Only a neurotic person thinks that simply talking to someone equates to "validation" lmao. Right, and men "never see anyone catcall women" and men never see a cold approacher flip the fuck out when rejected. "Some black people commit crimes therefore no black person is allowed to talk to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:38 PM
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Where's the link to him saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:34 PM
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Only those who are extremely self-centered think people are not allowed to talk to them in public. I've been to target plenty and have never seen anyone doing PUA. I get hit on gay guys in public and I don't give a shit even if I have zero interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:09 PM
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Nah, this is BS. The majority of women are not neurotic and will have forgotten the approach in less than an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:40 AM
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https://research.rug.nl/en/publications/age-and-gender-differences-in-mate-selection-criteria-for-various Income. With regard to a potential mate’s income, the repeated measures ANOVA revealed only a between-subject effect of Participant Sex (F(1, 120) = 23.80, p < .001). Independent of age categories and relationship levels, women desired a potential mate who had a higher income than themselves (M = 5.22), Education. A similar ANOVA on preferences with regard to a potential mate’s education rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:55 PM
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We tend to trust the opinions of academic experts who dedicate decades of their lives studying a subject
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:30 PM
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Nope, the limiting factor is not men. As evolutionary psychology expert Prof. David Buss states: Gender differences in sexual psychology are only part of the problem. Additional elements of the mating mind exacerbate it. A key cause stems from the qualities women seek in committed mateships. Most women are unwilling to settle for men who are less educated, less intelligent, and less professionally successful than they are. The flip side is that men are less exacting on precisely these dimensions…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:31 AM
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There are some women who are bigger, taller, and stronger than some men, but nobody except those arguing in bad faith would argue that there isn't a clear difference for men and women in general. There's a reason that the overwhelming majority of people who preach that "nagging for sex in a relationship is a form of sexual assault" are mostly deranged women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:57 AM
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Then we wouldn't have a libido gap problem to begin with. But clearly we do. Maybe you have a high sex drive. Good for you. You don't represent the majority of relationships as outlined by basic biology
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:01 PM
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Whatever you think of young women's libido, it doesn't compare to the libido of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:55 PM
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Even if that's true, if the average 30-yr old woman's libido is less than the average 30 yr old man's, then it makes sense for her to date older.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:48 PM
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Nobody is discouraged from hitting on someone because of something they read on the internet. Older men who are attractive enough and want to date younger women will do so, and those who are not attractive enough won't be able to. It's not that complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:47 PM
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Testosterone goes down with age
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:45 PM
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If she's not attracted to him, then she wouldn't be dating him. This is for the whiners who ask why the couple are together, since they can't possibly have "anything in COMmoN"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:41 AM
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Have older men date younger women so the libidos match
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:30 AM
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Normal people don't think like this. Any normal woman who doesn't live under a rock will notice that at a certain age, she is receiving much, much more attention from men. Do you think it's easier to get a job at harvard or community college? I want you to really give this one some thought before you answer. You mean like a teaching job? It's much harder to get a job at Harvard because there's much more people who want to work there. Just like it's harder to get a younger woman to date you becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:38 AM
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Because the implication is that experienced people with life experience aren't impressed with you. To an 18 year old girl out of high school, a guy having his own apartment is super cool, to a 30 year old, it's pretty much a requirement. This is a dumb argument. Young women aren't stupid. Their age group is in the highest demand among women and they know it. This insult is like someone saying "You're only going to Harvard because Boston College didn't accept you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:04 AM
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There's no consensus in the scientific community about what constitutes full adulthood, especially since the concept of adulthood has been intertwined with social and cultural factors since the dawn of humanity. This scientist, for example, thinks full adulthood is reached at 30: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47622059 I'm sure there are plenty of scientists who disagree with him (and I doubt they would even accept that there can be a scientific consensus on adulthood), and virtually no socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:53 AM
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You're right, voting is a completely different issue. Voting on legislation that can affect millions of people is way more consequential than who someone chooses to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:44 AM
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In the best case, it'll still cause inconveniences. In the worst case, young women who are more mature and who like privacy won't date them. But if the young guys are really that good looking, they'll only date the most attractive young women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 08:57 AM
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Well, plenty of women don't want to sleep with you if you might have roommates lurking around your place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:41 AM
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https://www.lovepanky.com/women/dating-men-tips-for-women/reasons-you-should-date-an-older-man-at-least-once However, as men grow older, they tend to look for more meaningful relationships that provide emotional security, intimacy, and more time for bonding activities. Sex is the least of their concerns–not that they’re having a “hard” time getting it up, but it is mostly younger men in their twenties who place sex in the top three on their priorities list. Older men look for keepers, not sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:03 AM
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This whole thread is about a woman being drunk and the man isn't. The man knowing he is sober so the advice is to be seen drinking so other people think you're as intoxicated as the woman is. Yes, and the point is that the man shouldn't even have to resort to doing this. If you can't understand this is rape then let us end this discussion. Yes, when the real world doesn't match your emotionally charged world views and how you want things to be, the best thing to do is cover your ears and deny re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:28 AM
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Caveats or not, the average woman has less libido than the average man. And young men have the highest libido of all. If the average young woman doesn't want to deal with that, it makes sense that she would date a man X years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:16 AM
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The average young man and young woman don't have their shit together. A non-average young woman wants to date someone who has their shit together, because she presumably does, at least moreso than her peers. She can date older guys or date non-average guys her age. Some of these women will choose one or the other. The older guy has the advantage of being more experienced and having more of his shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:59 AM
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And if I was why would an above average 21 year old (im not talking about looks) date an older man who wasnt making much money at the time like he said? Because having a career, some work experience, being able to take care of yourself, and making some money is still better than having none of that? Some women don't have the luxury of being able to only care about these things later in life compared to the "average" woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:19 AM
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It's pretty well-known knowledge that women have lower libidos than men...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:07 AM
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You just proved the opposite point. You like the party lifestyle and presumably so do a lot of young men. Women who don't like this lifestyle should date older because it's not their thing anywaY
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:03 AM
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Who said the 21 year old woman was average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:35 AM
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Same goes for you. The actual correct analogy is "as a man, I don't understand why some men like dicks".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:18 AM
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I was referring to rape in general, loved one. We're talking about rape on the basis that one person was less drunk than the other. That's what this whole thread is about. No you would go off of level of intoxication. And how far apart is the level of intoxication allowed to be? And how would you even measure that the next day? Huh, well that's odd. Why isn't it legally binding? Because that's the law. If you were drunk and you sign a contract agreeing to have sex with someone for the next two y…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:27 AM
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5 years is not that big a gap. She's probably more mature or at least has more mature interests
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:28 AM
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For many people, especially women, you do need to drink to have casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:37 PM
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1 - Why not just have sex with women who are not drunk, instead of having sex with drunk women and taking pains to pretend to be drunk "just in case"? Sounds predatory. For someone older, I'm surprised you need to ask this. The fact of the matter is at least since the sexual revolution, alcohol and sex have been closely linked. There's a reason people associate sex with bars, clubs, and parties, i.e. places where alcohol is present. The fact is that people, including women, know that alcohol low…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:17 PM
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Well welcome to the wonderful world of proving rape. It's very fucking hard. You can't prove it because this "criteria" for rape has no agreeable standard. If one person had 6 drinks, and the other had 4, is that close enough? Do we have to take each person's weight into account, their ability to tolerate alcohol based on past history etc? Yes, you can. Sure you can, Doesn't mean anyone has to believe you. There is a reason you can't sign contracts when you're intoxicated. You can sign it, it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:04 PM
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If one person is drunk and another isn't it becomes particularly easy to suggest it was rape Anyone can suggest anything. Doesn't mean it's true. . Two drunk people often manage sex amazingly. If both are drunk, the sex can be great, but if one is, then it can't be? It being difficult to prove is only legally relevant. In the court of public opinion, most people are going to side with the intoxicated person and rightly so to some degree. It's difficult to prove because there's no agreeable stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:58 PM
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You can't claim to be taken advantage of simply because you're drunk. You're responsible for your own actions even when drunk, and you shouldn't drink if you can't handle yourself properly It's problematic that one person could make a false accusation on the basis that the other person wasn't "drunk enough", and that would be difficult to prove either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:30 PM
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I'm speaking purely from a legal perspective, both people being drunk means neither of you could have consented, which means no one was raping anyone. Neither of you were in your right mind so either you're both rapey or neither of you are rapey. (Most people choose neither of you are rapey). Legally speaking, one or both persons could be drunk, and it still wouldn't be rape. If you reach a certain point of intoxication, it could be, but if both people have reached that point, sex likely wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 06:24 PM
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How does both people being drunk affect whether or not one person can consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:08 PM
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How does both people being drunk affect whether or not one person can consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:06 PM
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How does both people being drunk affect whether or not one person can consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:06 PM
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If a person is involuntarily single, it's either because s/he can needs to lower standards or become more attractive. If nobody is dating each other because everyone is fat, the better solution is not to lower standards but for everyone to work on not being fat, especially since a society full of fat people isn't good. If you want a more equivalent example, it would be something like age. Let's say a man always complains to you about being single. You then find out that he's only "attracted" to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:20 AM
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That's such a small minority of people that it'll have no effect on the dating market. Men are not going to be forever single because they avoid a small number of people with a rare medical problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:13 PM
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Except you can control being fat so it does say something about your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:56 PM
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Then you're purposefully obfuscating or posting in the wrong thread. This isn't about "scaring" anyone. It's about making someone uncomfortable. Having to reject someone is naturally uncomfortable for anyone. It is true, however, that a loud minority of women like to exaggerate this discomfort into something scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:52 PM
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How do you initiate small talk with someone without first getting their attention? Just face it, some neurotic women clearly have issues with men expressing their sexuality in any way, so they try to make it seem like it's something completely unusual when it's not much different than any other interactions people have with strangers in their daily lives
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:48 PM
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Even people in stage 1 can sometimes make others uncomfortable. People who think like you can't accept a basic fact: people are different. You can say the exact same thing to two different people and get completely different reactions. The problem is that more and more people, especially those in echo chambers, have convinced themselves that anything that makes them uncomfortable is automatically wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:30 AM
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Gay men have better manners and are savvy enough not to proposition strangers if they aren’t certain their attention is wanted. Lol, gay men are some of the most sexually forward people out there. It's literally a stereotype. And they do hit on men in public. And most straight guys don't care: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/tntwqt/straight_men_of_reddit_how_do_you_feel_when_gay/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:14 AM
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If she likes you, she won't mind you approaching her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:08 AM
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The fact you keep asking this thinking it's some kind of gotcha shows how socially out-of-tune you are. Yes, men talk to each other in public, sometimes just to make small talk. It's not that big a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 05:07 AM
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The issue with radical feminist blowhards is that they think they speak for all women. There are plenty of women who have no problem having conversations with strangers. So there are a minority of women who are stuck up and uptight while plenty of others aren't. It's just that the former tend to be louder. BTW, although some people associate cold approaching with trying to find sex (which it works plenty well for), it's actually a great way to screen women for relationships. Who is likely to rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:28 AM
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Tell to that to the men with multiple sexual partners who approach abundantly because they're not constantly obsessed with others think of them. I'm sure they're crying themselves to sleep every night because you don't think they're "charming" enough or "socially adept" enough. Here's another bit of common sense of you: if a woman chooses to date you or even chooses to enter a LTR with you, she already likes you and doesn't give a damn about how you met.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:54 AM
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You can cry about it if you want. But the men who are most successful are those who aren't always worried about "bothering people". I suspect this will be followed by posts complaining about the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:38 AM
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Yep and, like I said, people value partners with social awareness. If you're unable to read a situation, then you're self-selecting yourself out of competition. Cool, you just demonstrated why approaching is almost always the better option. There are 3 possibilities: You approach, she doesn't think it's appropriate and considers you socially inept. She rejects you. You approach, she doesn't mind and likes you and goes on a date with you. You don't approach, she doesn't think you're socially inep…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:07 AM
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What I find interesting is how many men criticize women for "living in fear" of men, even though they are far, far more likely to be victims of sexual harassment/abuse than men are to be victims of false accusations of the same. Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:06 AM
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Book reading is a great conversation starter and can indicate common interests
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:00 PM
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If it's ok to make assumptions about men due to biological differences, then it's ok to make assumptions about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:34 AM
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If it's ok to make assumptions about men due to biological differences, then it's ok to make assumptions about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:34 AM
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How would you feel if someone questioned your ability as a doctor because you're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:01 AM
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Why do women get upset when people question their abilities in fields like STEM? Don't you know that gender and hormones can have an effect on brain development?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:59 AM
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This "fairy tale" is supported by research: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Market-value-of-males-and-females-plotted-against-age-Market-value-is-a-selection-ratio_fig1_228800180
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:48 AM
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We weren't especially talking about 'good women'. The topic is whether men should cold-approach. And just as a man needs to like a woman, a woman needs to like the man. A lot of male commenters here seem to have a problem grasping that second part. A man approaches a woman. If she's interested, they might date. If she's not, they both move on with their lives. It seems like you're the one having a hard time grasping a simple concept. If she is 'acting like an insufferable bitch' when he approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:29 AM
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We're talking about "good women" here. The point is that you don't get to decide what a "good woman" is just like some random guy doesn't get to decide what a "good man" is. It's about what other people value. A guy who lives in his mom's basement playing video games and eating doritos all day isn't a "good man" even if he thinks highly of himself. A woman who isn't feminine and acts like an insufferable bitch just because some guy hits on her isn't a "good woman" no matter what she thinks of he…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:39 AM
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If you want someone to like you/ want a relationship with you, you need to offer them something, woah, such a revelation!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:08 PM
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Although some people associate cold approaching with trying to find sex, it's actually a great way to screen women for relationships. Who is likely to react badly to cold approaches? Usually, it's women who are unpleasant, have issues with men, are traumatized due to some experiences with men, have read one too many radical feminist blogs, or all of the above. None of these point to a woman with relationship qualities. Approaching can filter them out. Women who are receptive tend to be pleasant,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:46 AM
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Things that can make dating/relationship easier for men: financial abortions, ease of access for paternity testing, laws to discourage false rape/false harassment accusations, legalized prostitution etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:05 PM
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What about dressing like a bum and whining about never getting dates because everyone you meet is too shallow? Sure, people like that exist, but it's much rarer than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:53 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/q56jew/as_a_straight_man_how_do_you_handle_gay_men/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:19 PM
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Except the OP is talking about cases where the less attractive women is approached. Many men don't even care if gay men hit on them despite having zero attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:08 PM
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There are plenty of less conventionally attractive women who are pleasant. The bitchy women tell themselves they're hated because they're unattractive or worse, because they are women, so that they don't have to do any work or introspection to change their bitchiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 06:07 PM
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Lol no they don't. What kind of 4th world country do you live be in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:58 PM
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It's not because the woman had sex, it's because she lacks good relationship qualities. For some women, this is a hard truth to swallow so they lie to themselves that it's because they had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:38 PM
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Because acknowledging the power of status requires them to acknowledge the existence of the Wall, as well as why some women like to date older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:03 PM
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Actually, I do commend the honesty. The fact that you get hate from both sides shows that you must be right about some things. Men bash you because you're pearl-clutching about these "tactics", but there's no denying that some women do find them sleazy, though this is often due to jealousy and cognitive dissonance rather than any good intentions. And of course, women hate the fact that you're acknowledging that this stuff actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:56 AM
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It's no secret that women like sexist men: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men?amp
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:36 AM
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Actually, I agree and I do find the honesty commendable. I think plenty of women believe these things but don't want to openly acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:31 AM
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I am aware, which is why I'm asking why you bring that up for what OP described. Who is getting harassed or assaulted?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:28 AM
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According to OP, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:06 PM
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Is that why you wrote "silence is violence"? Where's the violence here? OP is bitter and "frustrated" that two adults who have nothing to do with her are having a consensual interaction, and your advice is that she needs to take action next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:05 PM
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In other words, feminists who put themselves in bubbles develop the grand delusion that their views and attitudes are shared by most most women, and are constantly shocked to learn the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 06:57 PM
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It's dumb to have sex with someone you're attracted to? Being "good" and being sexually attractive often have nothing to do with each other. This basic fact of life seems very triggering to you and similar women like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:25 PM
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They do to get commitment. Unless you're suggesting that women never lie on dates lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:13 PM
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Flirting is psychological
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:18 AM
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The problem with you, OP, is that you think these women are all dumb, oblivious, and naive, and that they're not aware of what the guy is doing, while clearly, you're the smart feminist woman who can see right through the lies. It's funny that all this concern trolling about women being "manipulated" actually ends up demeaning women. The truth is, women aren't stupid. Especially in a nightlife setting, they know guys will hit on them and try to run "game". As long as he isn't being super obvious…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:07 AM
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She became attracted to the guy and slept with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:01 AM
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Hate to see it that, "silence is violence" applies here. You had a problem > saw it take place > didn't do anything > became pissed that problem continues....you LET it be effective. Lol wtf. Why should she stop it? Because some guy gave a woman a good time and made her want to sleep with him? This sounds like something written by a guy who can't get any himself so he ruins others' fun to feel "morally superior".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:00 AM
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Being interested in someone romantically and sexually is normal human behavior and isn't some nefarious "ulterior motive"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:07 PM
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https://unseenjapan.com/gaijin-hunter-fact-vs-fiction/ In a 2018 Japanese survey, 51.6 % of women and 40.8% of men said that they had some level of interest in an international marriage. . That doesn’t even matter though. You’re still not getting special white guy privilege by showing up in Japan. When people fantasize about hooking up with foreigners, they’re thinking about movie stars - not you. Lol, that's the best you can come up with? Women everywhere want to date movie stars. But they can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:38 PM
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https://soranews24.com/2012/09/01/japanese-men-and-women-rank-which-countries-theyd-look-to-for-a-mate/ The folks at MyNavi set up a survey asking men and women what country besides Japan they’d go in search of a girlfriend or boyfriend. Based on this survey here are the top 5 countries for both Japanese men and women and reasons for their choices England Italy Germany France USA What do those 5 countries have in common? Other than their own ethnicity, Japanese women have a clear bias towards we…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:29 AM
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You said they were being genuine. Narrator: they weren't...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:21 AM
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Ok sure, some western women genuinely believe that these women of different cultural backgrounds are genuinely exploited because only these women think they are more qualified to genuinely decide what's good for women and those other women aren't finding true, genuine happiness, and are compromising the positions of women who genuinely knows what:s best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:59 PM
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Someone in this thread literally posted this: except i’m not attraction shaming because y’all know exactly what you’re doing and exactly why you’re traveling abroad to find wives. You purposely aim for cultures where the women are socially subservient and more socially submissive. You don’t want a person you can genuinely build a bond with, you want someone to make you feel secure in yourself by being submissive to you. Its one thing to meet a japanese girl (for example) by coincidence, or even …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:30 PM
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Here's a video of the boy band BTS talking to random girls on the street (before they became famous and most people knew who they were). Although I'm not a fan of their music, they are the most successful in the world. So where are all the women demanding that they be cancelled for doing such a heinous, inappropriate thing? Keep in mind most of their fanbase are teen girls who often lean progressive. Don't let neurotic women tell you you're not allowed to talk to people. They don't represent mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:15 PM
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You lose a lot of credibility if you try to tell men what their best chances of success are when you don't experience life as a man. And here's another newsflash: just because you cold approach sometimes doesn't mean you have to stop meeting people in other ways as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:04 PM
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Don't be surprised if you have a high rejection rate. Agreed. 95% of men shouldn't cold approach either. If they get dates and sex out of it, why not? Because you don't like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:56 PM
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Sure, asexual men shouldn't cold approach, for the other 95%, have at it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:46 PM
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Sure, we can agree that asexual men shouldn't approach
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:43 PM
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Non-emotionally stunted people have no problem talking to other people in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:39 PM
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Newsflash: any guy that wants to date you also wants to have sex with you. But please, keep pretending like you speak for all women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:38 PM
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If I've been attacked by black people before, can I treat all black people like criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:34 PM
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How long have you been on this site? Men who bitch about and are paranoid about women (due to reading too many blogs or whatever) absolutely get ridiculed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:32 PM
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Lmao, find me one person who says women looking for men in other countries is "exploiting" them. No one gives a shit if a woman wants to go to non-Western countries to find a man. But women won't do that because they KNOW that men won't treat them better than men in the west lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 01:09 PM
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No, it's not unexpected or problematic. I'm saying it often has nothing to do with the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:52 PM
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It's not just about the man, but the woman as well. Some women are simply uptight and don't like being approached while some are open to talking to almost anyone. The first group is louder, especially online. You can approach two different women the exact same way in the same location and get completely different responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:49 PM
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If these women were genuine, they would acknowledge that people around the world have different cultural values. They would say they don't care as long as the other woman isn't too poor. But instead they'll just come up with some other BS excuse such, e.g. "You're just looking for a submissive pushover!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 12:53 AM
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Nice concern trolling. Even when men say they prefer women from highly developed countries like Japan or SK, women still complain
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:16 PM
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Nice concern trolling. Even when men say they prefer women from highly developed countries like Japan or SK, women still complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:15 PM
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But you then need to make sure that they consent to being pumped and dumped and then discarded. Separate issue from ghosting per se but still an important if you want to avoid sexual assault charges. lol "Ghosting is never immoral but is a justification to make false accusations of sexual assault"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:15 AM
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Would that include ghosting after a pump-n-dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:43 PM
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You're being disingenuous. You have no idea where the women were going or if they were busy and had things to attend to. It's clear from the video that some of the women were not interested in talking and found the situation awkward at best. And even I think one should be wary of approaching during the night. The reason it's not a big deal is because the boys were being polite and could take no for an answer. At worst, they caused a minor disruption instead of some great traumatic experience tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:40 PM
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Yes, mate choice copying is a well-known phenomenon supported by research. I'm not sure why so many women find this controversial. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-018-0099-y Mate choice copying (MCC) is a type of non-independent mate choice where the ‘probability of acceptance’ of a potential mate increases if they are observed to be chosen by others first. The phenomenon was first demonstrated in several non-human taxa, with studies on humans conducted shortly after. The effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:37 AM
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Kinda low effort post. It this is the basis of the double-standard, women would be discouraged from dating taller men, since taller guys are usually stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:27 AM
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Here's a video of the boy band BTS talking to random girls on the street (before they became famous and most people knew who they were). Although I'm not a fan of their music, they are the most successful boy band in the world. So where are all the women calling them psychos and asking that they be cancelled? Keep in mind most of their fanbase are teen girls who often lean progressive. For guys reading this, don't let neurotic women tell you you're not allowed to talk to people. They don't repre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:11 AM
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You are not the grand arbiter of what's socially acceptable. For some, it could be enough to attend the same venue, university, festival etc. For others, simply being from the same town is enough (especially if it's a small one). Obviously, a lot of this also depends on culture and region. But the point is that it's not wrong just because you personally don't like it. That's how neurotic people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:05 AM
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Sure, women will acknowledge that they care a lot about looks. What they won't acknowledge is that a guy who approaches a lot (even if some women don't like it) and who isn't afraid of rejection will get more dates and more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:53 AM
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She emphasized that if the woman "wouldn't do it otherwise", then one shouldn't be surprised to be falsely accused. Whether one would have done it otherwise has no bearing on whether or not it's rape. So it's absolutely not a justification to make a false accusation and it's reasonable for someone to be "surprised" and outraged if an accusation is made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:24 AM
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Yes, he wasn't sure at first, then she made it clear that she wanted it and they had sex. I'm not sure what you're not understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:17 AM
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Anyone who frequents bars and clubs knows that the limit for "overserving" is way higher than what you're making it seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:15 AM
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If you started getting drunk at the bar and decided to go harder, can you later ask for a refund for the drinks you bought afterwards? People don't typically hand their wallets to strangers for no reason. People do commonly go to each other's places to have sex after drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:13 AM
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The default is not falsely accusing someone of rape, no matter what fine line you think was being "walked".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:46 AM
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No, this is pretty common at bars and a big part of how they stay in business. As long as someone is conscious and aware, they're not being exploited and they can't ask for a refund.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:03 AM
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Would you agree that a woman worried about being raped is stupid for going to a guy's place and giving mixed signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:01 AM
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And all of that happened before the very clear signals, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:00 AM
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Then they act all “surprised pikachu” when accused of rape, knowing full well these women probably wouldn’t do it otherwise Just because you wouldn't have done it otherwise does not make it rape. Quit victim blaming and defending those who make false accusations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:21 PM
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I consider just getting up and leaving due to the vibes, but figure that doing so after she literally just told me to fuck her after building up to it all evening would be extremely rude and hurtful. She takes off her jeans and underwear under the covers. Seems like extreme body insecurity, she wants to hide herself. I'm empathetic and consider that rejecting her now would practically be evil. She's a pretty girl and I'm hard, and she's explicitly verbally inviting me to do what I came here to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:17 PM
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Maybe if you're starting to fall over. If you're buzzed and having a good time, bars have no problem asking if you'd like another.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:16 PM
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The majority of FWB go Dutch. You're staying this like it's some obvious fact, but there's absolutely nothing in the definition of FWB that suggests this. ...dude, what? Who the hell is her FWB? Fucking Bill Gates? Average people can't afford that shit. Don't be silly. A guy with an established career who's single and childless can easily afford to take vacations to nice places like this. Maybe an average guy can't, but such a guy isn't getting casual sex from a much younger woman anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:03 AM
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Some women don't mind having sex with older guys but don't want relationships with them. So they put these men in the non-relationship pile and use them for simple NSA-sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:46 PM
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FWB typically go Dutch. Why? There's no requirement for this. If a guy has money, and his FWB doesn't, why would he mind paying? It does add to her lifestyle. Who doesn't want to vacation on a greek island on some random weekend to hang out with her FWB and fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:44 PM
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Status - plenty of women would love to brag that they once got to fuck Leonardo dicaprio Sexual experience - self-explanatory Better dates - some women into casual still like to be wine and dined. FWBs still like to go on dates, and more money means better dates Life style - having your own place, especially one that's clean, is much conducive to fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:29 PM
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https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1024&context=psychpubs The minimal research that does exist suggests that there are both ups and downs to being involved in an age discrepant romance. In particular, such relationships are subject to social disapproval and stereotyping by society at large, especially in cases where the older partner is a woman. At the same time, however, age-gap partners are often more satisfied and committed to one another than partners who are more simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:15 PM
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Status - plenty of women would love to brag that they once got to fuck Leonardo dicaprio Sexual experience - self-explanatory Better dates - some women into casual still like to be wine and dined. FWBs still like to go on dates, and more money means better dates Life style - having your own place, especially one that's clean, is much conducive to fucking I'll add another one. Some women like to be casual with older guys because she knows there's little chance of it leading anywhere, less chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:12 PM
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Status - plenty of women would love to brag that they once got to fuck Leonardo dicaprio Sexual experience - self-explanatory Better dates - some women into casual still like to be wine and dined. FWBs still like to go on dates, and more money means better dates Life style - having your own place, especially one that's clean, is much conducive to fucking I'll add another one. Some women like to be casual with older guys because she knows there's little chance of it leading anywhere, less chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 09:11 PM
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You keep making it sound like the man who relinquished responsibility have some kind of right over his child. He doesn't. Nothing legally or socially acceptable. Many people would encourage the child to have nothing to do with the parent who left, but if the grown child chooses otherwise, that's his/her problem. Adults are free to associate with anyone they want, even with bad people. It's like someone can choose to get back with an abusive ex, even though legally, the ex can't do anything on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:21 AM
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Why is it an issue if the person "comes back later"? You seem fixated on punishing someone who chooses not to support their kid. I'm not sure what that would achieve. And again, why would that not apply to a mother who gives up her child for adoption?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:34 AM
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Correct, that's why many women would still want abortion to be legal even if an artificial womb existed. As my first post said, many women want abortions to get out of parenthood and financial responsibility, not simply to avoid pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:30 PM
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What I've come to find out is - contrary to what others say - the cold approach is an overall losing strategy How is a losing strategy? Because it fails sometimes? That's true no matter how you flirt
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:05 PM
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Why is it an issue? If the kid knows his parent abandoned him, it's his choice whether to forgive or not. How is it different than a mother giving up her child for adoption because she wants to avoid the burden of parenting and financial responsibility, but she decides she wants to reconnect later on?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:03 PM
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Yes, so women can essentially have a financial abortion by getting an abortion, whereas men have no such option.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 05:01 PM
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And the kid can tell the guy to f*ck off if he knows the guy made the choice to "financially abort".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:06 AM
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Without an abortion, if the man wants to keep the child, she would have to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:04 AM
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if banning abortion was popular enough, would that make it ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:04 AM
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This has been discussed here before: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/nx8032/financial_abortion_and_deadbeat_dads/ Long story short, the claim is that women want abortions to avoid pregnancy, but the reality is that many women want abortions to avoid parenthood. That's all well and good, except that these same women would never support allowing men to have financial abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:42 AM
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You think someone's going to regret having a fling with a celebrity? How naive can you be? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:50 AM
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You think someone's going to regret having a fling with a celebrity? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:46 AM
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What's your source that the data skews towards older women? Since men were in the range 20-59, there's probably more older men. Nobody cares that there are no women under 20. Sexual market value is about what you want vs what you can get at your given age. And the results clearly show that men peak at a later age (though their peak is not as high as womens' at an earlier age). Men and women clearly don't peak at the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:12 AM
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No idea what you've been reading. This has nothing to do with advertising for models. These are personal advertisements from both men AND women, where they state their own traits and their preferences for the opposite sex. The graph clearly shows that mens' largest potential dating pool occurs later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:29 AM
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This topic again...As if research doesn't show that mens' smv peaks at a later age https://i.ibb.co/NtHNQXd/graph.jpg https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.1999.0634
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:55 AM
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Plenty of women (including very attractive ones) have no problem interacting with men who are interested in them and can politely reject them if they want. Honestly, the women complaining about this stuff probably live in the ghetto and only get approached by sleazy men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:49 AM
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Skills Also more likely to have matching libidos. Women on average have lower libidos, but mens' libidos drop as they get older. Older guys are also less pushy for sex since they no longer have anything to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:46 PM
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You want to live in a free society, then you're responsible for your own choices. That's how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 10:29 AM
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This other study sort of says the opposite: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819#sec-1 Results of note include: Ratings of strength are a robust and much larger predictor of attractiveness than either height or weight. Height is attractive even independent of making a man look strong. Controlling for how strong a man actually looks, raters still classify taller men as more attractive in two of the three samples. Set 2 did not show evidence that raters prefer taller men (…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:26 PM
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Yes, and normal woman wouldn't feel fear at a store, which is what I said. There are women with issues who would freak out even at a music festival.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:24 AM
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Except even science confirms that this stuff applies more to women, but really, anyone who has gone outside already knows this. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-018-0099-y Mate choice copying (MCC) is a type of non-independent mate choice where the ‘probability of acceptance’ of a potential mate increases if they are observed to be chosen by others first. The phenomenon was first demonstrated in several non-human taxa, with studies on humans conducted shortly after. The effect ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:58 AM
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That's the point. If you find it automatically scary regardless of location, then you have issues. It's no more scarier at the store than it would be at a bar. Again, we're talking about fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:24 AM
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If a normal guy without great looks walks up to me in a grocery store and hits on me I will reject him. I would most likely reject him even if I was attracted to him because getting hit on by random men is scary. If you're feeling fear in a store with other people, then it seems the issue is with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:46 PM
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Of course people cheat everywhere. And there are faithful people in the west. Though the west also has the highest rate of adultery. It's all about probability. Nothing wrong with widening your pool to have the best chance of finding what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:15 AM
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What does race have anything to do with it? Things like upbringing are obviously influenced by culture, which is different in different countries. If a guy wants a traditional wife he could look at countries with more traditional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:08 AM
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Age has nothing to do with the fact that being a more polarizing (and potentially offensive) person will get more people to like you (and hate you). Going back to the analogy, Bernie Sanders is also a polarizing figure, who's liked by younger people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:49 PM
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And loudly supported him as well. It's actually a good analogy for how men should approach dating. Be more polarizing instead of a people-pleaser. If there's 10 women a guy can potentially date, it's much better to have 8 of them hate him and 2 of them love him, then have all 10 think he's just "okay".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:41 AM
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As for being offensive some men think it makes them.a roughishly charming asshole. Really everyone just silently hates you. Sure, that's why women find sexist men more attractive. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0146167218781000?journalCode=pspc One of the most offensive guys even became president lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:42 PM
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As a reminder, there is evidence that age-gap relationships are better. https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1024&context=psychpubs The minimal research that does exist suggests that there are both ups and downs to being involved in an age discrepant romance. In particular, such relationships are subject to social disapproval and stereotyping by society at large, especially in cases where the older partner is a woman. At the same time, however, age-gap partners are often more …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:37 PM
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You're missing the point. Nobody needs to go out of their way to inspire dread or to be offensive. It means being willing to speak your mind even if you know there's a risk someone might be offended. It means being willing to walk away if someone doesn't meet your standards, which people respond positively to, thus creating "dread".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 07:05 AM
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If she didn't want to pay child support, she could simply abort the baby. That's not equal at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 06:56 AM
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You are the only on “covering your ears and screeching” This is form a website run by US department of health I don't care about pseudo-intellectual terms made up by feminists. For the 4th time, show me a case where someone was convicted for pestering someone for sex. “If you really loved me, you’d do it.” “Come on; it’s my birthday.” “You don’t know what you do to me.” "Come on, it's my birthday. Buy me this gift". "YoU'rE cOerCing mE! I'm calling the police!" “But you’ve already gotten me all …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 08:42 AM
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Why would I appeal to emotion when it’s obvious you have no sympathy for rape victims. The law isn’t the determining factor in what or isn’t rape. Many people would consider pulling off the condom or lying about STIs sexual assault. That is only legal in some states I have zero sympathy for someone who claims rape because they got pestered. If simple pestering is what it took to make you have sex, you weren't raped. You can keep covering your ears and screeching about it, but that won't make it …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 03:38 AM
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I can show you a case where a little girl was brutally raped in an alleyway and the rapist got off. Rape is not punished in American Hilarious nonsensical attempt to appeal to emotion, which has nothing to do with what's being discussed. Never said any of this, nagging someone to do chores is not the same as nagging someone for sex 1) if you’re an adult you have an obligation to do chores 2) forced sex has lasting psychological impacts 3) pestering for sex shows 0 regard for the wilful consent o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:47 PM
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If consent is only given after an extended period of sexual harassment the it is assault Show me a case where someone was convicted of assault after a period of pestering and getting sex. If someone can’t move out because they can’t afford to live alone what are they supposed to do. It’s not as easy as “just leave” I never said this By your logic, the man is committing kidnap because she is supposedly "unable" to leave. If a man is getting nagged to do chores, he's working under forced labor, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:59 AM
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Getting followed or hassled at the airport is a lot more time consuming and aggravating than what i described. According to what measure? People are on the streets a lot more often than they are in stores or in airports. Just because you don't find it aggravating to be treated like a criminal doesn't mean others don't. Your opinions and the arbitrary thresholds you create aren't universal truths. Is it being “damaged” or just more aware of your surroundings and cautious If you feel fearful in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:32 AM
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I never said pestering by itself is sexual assault If you had sex because you were tired of being pestered, you were not sexually assaulted. Low quality seems unnecessary harsh but sure, assuming there aren’t complicating factors like, money, children, DV Money and children are your responsibility. DV is not, but it's already covered by the law. Just because someone does something that's bad for a relationship, and you won't leave him for it, doesn't mean he committed a crime. Then there's the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:51 AM
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I just think that crossing the street is such an innocuous and inconsequential form of discrimination that it isn’t worth getting indignant about imo. Getting followed in a store or being hassled at an airport also leads to no harm. At the end of the day whether it’s morally justified or not depends entirely on the context of the situation and the history of the person feeling afraid. If they’ve been raped by a black person before that is going to colour their perception. She can behave however …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 01:36 AM
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You’re argument only works in the world where people aren’t able to interpret context at all. Race is just one of the facts you would take into account when assessing your personal safety Race and gender are things people can't change about themselves. Would you agree that there is a difference between a stranger stalking behind you menacingly and a stranger on the phone not looking at you at all Anyone that's actually "stalking menacingly" is suspicious, regardless of race or gender. Remember t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:32 AM
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Are why are you the arbitrator of what “societies views” are. I'm not. The law reflects societal views. If you don't want to talk about the law, then don't bring up legal terms. Sexual assault is a legal term and is considered serious. It already covers those things you mentioned but not "pestering" someone for sex. What does this even mean ? Women that have an issue with sexual coercion. There is difference between having to say “no” once and having to say “no” a thousand times. If it reaches t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:28 AM
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Who's angry? I get that this is triggering topic for many radical feminists, but that doesn't make them logical or correct. Maybe the law should be a wake-up call that it's not society's views that are warped, but yours. It's a reflection that reasonable people don't believe "pestering" someone for sex should be in he same conversation as sexual assault. Most women want to have sex with their SOs but also wouldn't have a problem saying no otherwise. The women who have issues are those that have …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:32 PM
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So no that cop example doesn’t fit in either case because there is no immediate risk to either person Who are you to say what is considered to be an immediate risk to a person? Anyone can easily say that a stranger who you know nothing about poses no immediate risk. If you want to talk about "feelings', anybody is allowed to feel whatever he wants. So yes, that means a person who simply feels unsafe about a certain group at an airport would be justified in profiling. A cop, who's very job entail…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:24 PM
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And if they don’t leave ? What then ? If it's your property, and he refuses to leave, that's already a crime that has nothing to do with sex. If this person is your SO, you can break up. Nobody cares about pseudo-intellectual terms made up by feminists. Find me a state law that says pestering someone for sex is sexual assault. Find me a case where someone was convicted for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:23 PM
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lol keep trying to weasel your way out of a bad argument. All those things I mentioned affect can have a direct effect on personal safety. If I'm a traveler or a security worker at an airport, and I thought someone might have a bomb, would I not want that person to be scrutinized because MY personal safety is also being endangered? Should I not want policemen to check someone out in my community if I feel like that person could be a criminal who could commit violent crimes against ME? And if I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:17 PM
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Sorry, but pestering someone for sex isn't assault. If you don't like it, you can ask him to leave. It would be like saying a woman nagging her husband to do the dishes is practicing slave labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:56 PM
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Who gave you the authority to determine the threshold for discrimination? Property damage can lead to the loss of livelihoods for many people. But let's play your game and prioritize feelings" of safety above all else. Keep in mind that these are just about feelings*, with no evidence of a credible threat. You are now a proponent of profiling. Police should be able to follow who anyone if they're deemed to be in a high-risk group. Certain groups can be hassled or detained in airports in the inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:52 PM
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If it's ok to stereotype men, minorities, etc, then it's ok to stereotype women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:46 PM
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Not hard to understand. Certain feminist nutjobs love to bitch about how stereotypes ruin their lives. But they tend to be ok with stereotypes as long as they aren't being hurt by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:32 AM
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But you haven't answered my question. What's wrong with me not allowing a woman mechanic to work on my car? If there's a mistake, it could lead to damage and death of multiple people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 08:21 AM
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What about following someone around a store? The motivation is simply to protect property. Or commenting on someone's appearance? That's harmless. Or thinking someone's unqualified to perform a task? Just wanna make sure it gets done properly for the sake of quality/safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:58 AM
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I'm asking you, do we judge people as individuals or based on what group they're part of, which they have no control over?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:53 AM
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As long as you're willing to accept all stereotypes, no more complaining about gender roles and women being excluded from jobs, leadership, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:50 AM
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As long as you're willing to accept all stereotypes, no more complaining about gender roles and women being excluded from jobs, leadership, etc..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:49 AM
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You are legally allowed to date anyone 18+. Everyone else is allowed to have whatever opinions they have on that. They are allowed to find you creepy, unattractive, or manipulative if that’s how you come off. Nobody can stop you, but we don’t have to give a blessing to something we aren’t comfortable with for whatever reason. Sure, and people are allowed to call out jealous post-wallers when they appear. I hope they don't play the misogyny card when that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:40 AM
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Potential upsides of younger partner: Fertility, less bitterness, less baggage, not rushing to settle down, more energetic, less focused on wealth etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:35 AM
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This is one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard. Younger women like younger faces. Older women like older faces. He's a predator because he dates women who are attracted to him and avoids the ones that aren't, over something he can't even control? Is a short guy "preying" on short women by dating them because taller women won't? lol, some of this stuff sounds like stereotypical shaming tactics from post-wall women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:32 AM
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All of those things apply to men as well Nothing's stopping women from dating younger guys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:27 AM
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How does he have power over her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:26 AM
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There was literally an AMA on reddit a few weeks ago featuring a prostitute who enjoyed what she does and the services she provides. She owns multiple businesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:09 AM
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Who says the prostitute clearly doesn't want them to be there? It says more about you take feel the need to equate prostitution to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 04:07 AM
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You are not the grand arbiter of what's socially acceptable. For you, having a dog with you is enough. For others, that might be over the top or not enough. For some, it could be enough to attend the same venue, university, festival etc. For others, simply being from the same town is enough (especially if it's a small one). Obviously, a lot of this also depends on culture and region. But the point is that it's not wrong just because you personally don't like it. That's how neurotic people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:02 AM
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Have you talked with a 20 year old lately? Do you want to bar hop and talk about tik toks? It's a myth that people fundamentally change once they get older. The woman who likes tiktok in her 20's will still be using it (or whatever's the trend) in her 30's. People who date can have compatibilities and incompatibilities that have nothing to do with age. If a woman is very outdoorsy, would she rather date an older guy who was also outdoorsy or a similarly aged guy who isn't? Of course, you can say…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:15 AM
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Why would a mature, put together, overall catch want to attempt to be with someone who has such relatively undeveloped ideas, so much less life experience, and can’t relate to him in fundamental ways? Because younger women are hotter lol. Not to mention all the other downsides of dating older women, their baggage, their desperation to settle down and the use of pressure/shaming tactics to get a man to do so. Isn’t even the pursuit of “energy and youthfulness” not a sign of maturity but of… escap…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:07 AM
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From Oxford Dictionary to treat someone as though they are a child The phrase “innocent women and children” is a way of infantilizing women, making them seem passive and helpless. Sounds perfectly appropriate to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:55 AM
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Although you could make things less risky for yourself by saying.. asking questions when your dating? Do you have a job? What do you want from life? Where do you want to see yourself in 5 years? Don't forget avoiding women who make you wait for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:23 AM
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If someone has had a lot of practice getting girls to sleep with him, an 18 year old victim isn't gonna know all the different tricks and techniques they're pulling on them. This isn't only relevant to age-gap relationships, but what kind of "tricks" are you referring to? If a guy makes a girl attracted enough to sleep with him, then whether it's through words or him having a good face, she's attracted and she consented.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:13 PM
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He'd be better off with the younger woman. The more experienced woman is a red flag. Why can't she date someone with similar experience as her? Then there's the huge issue of power imbalance. If the experienced woman wanted to, she could easily manipulate the guy as she knows how the opposite sex thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:10 AM
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Relationship skills don't help you when someone is in the hospital, when financial decisions are made, decisions on where to live, or when making decisions for children / decision whether you should have children. A relationship is just living your life with someone. Lol, your examples are quite ironic, because for most of these things, the less experienced person benefits from the knowledge a more experienced would have for these things. But your other statements are wrong too. Relationship ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:06 AM
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The relationship has a higher divorce rate, and is incredibly likely to fail If the issue is failed marriage, why isn't the scrutiny and blame placed on the younger person? A young person who gets divorced still has youth left to find another partner while the older person is out of luck. He's only out for number one and just wants some ass. So which is it? He wants marriage or just wants sex? Lol more concern trolling from older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:22 AM
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Nah, experience at a specific thing definitely trumps life experience. Otherwise, it would be like me saying I'm better at basketball than Luka Dončić because I'm older. The specific thing here is dating, relationships, and understanding the opposite sex. Imagine a 22 year old woman who has had lots of experience with dating/sex. She is more than comfortable interacting with the opposite sex in a romantic context. Now take a 30 year old guy who wasn't very social when younger and has barely any …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:17 AM
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The irony of a judgemental slut does indeed make the head hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:46 AM
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By society you mean men. Lol typical blaming the consequences of your actions on the pAtRiArcHy. Women slut shame just as much if not more than men https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2013/05/study-women-reject-promiscuous-female-peers-friends For me, they're not being paid for it, they cannot be sluts. The rest of society doesn't care what definitions you make up in your head. Sex feels good and when is mutual is great. "Chad" and the sluts chose each other. Prostitutes enjoy sex, are good at it, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 06:42 PM
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There still a huge difference but is alright. A difference if you use feminist mental gymnastics. Women are free to slut around all they want, but they're not entitled to be free from judgement. If society finds you disgusting, take responsibility and don't blame others for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:49 PM
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Men need women despite of the access they have to prostitution. You said men who use prostitutes do it because other women don't want them. You said it's different when a woman sleeps around with Chads because she just wants hassle-free good sex with an attractive guy. I said men who use prostitutes are doing the same thing. They just want risk-free, hassle-free, good sex with an attractive woman. That's why even attractive, successful men use prostitutes. Some women are only good for sex, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:57 AM
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What did he lie about? It's possible for a guy to fall in love with multiple women whether women are comfortable with that or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:31 AM
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Thanks for proving my point. About what? You asked why men use tinder instead of getting prostitutes. A guy who wants to date will use tinder. A guy who only cares about sex will use prostitutes. Yeah, always the crazy women men choose for dating. Sure, just like women who get abused chose to date those men. sToP ViCtiM bLaMinG! Best way to avoid risk is to just not date if you only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:02 AM
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Why he wants to date? Say it already. For fun, companionship, a relationship etc. Are you ok? That's what happens when your name is everywhere. Yes, and there are crazy women who want your name everywhere. Dating comes with risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:51 PM
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? If a man wants to date, he'll use tinder. If he wants to be left alone, he can use a prostitute. Something hard to understand? He's "Chad" for a reason, you know. He'll always win. Maybe, but why fight when you don't have to? For them to leave him alone before and afterwards, I guess. Glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:11 PM
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I said they're both equally strong. So explain why you think one is stronger?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:23 AM
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Date for what exacly again? For fun, companionship, a relationship etc? Some woman and "Chad" couldn't care less. Chad doesn't care if some crazy woman tries to ruin his reputation and career? What are you smoking? Why do you think some attractive, successful men use prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:13 AM
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You're not paying for the sex, you're paying for her to leave you alone before and afterwards. Why do you think some attractive, successful men use prostitutes? If it was so pleasurable the men looking for casual sex will uninstall tinder altogether and forever. Even the attractive men understand it. They want a wet hole fast and easy? They know what to do then. Because plenty of men do want to date? duh "Chad" couldn't care less. lmao you're saying this when there's currently a stickied post ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:51 AM
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What's so "strong" about slut?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:23 AM
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A great example of how delusional women can be about their own attractiveness. Prostitution is a threat because they know many men, even attractive ones, would rather pay a paltry sum to have sex with an extremely attractive woman who they don't have to deal with afterwards. After all, with prostitution, the market determines who's actually attractive (and therefore successful), not some woman's perceived self-worth. Why spend hours listening to some woman prattle and have her harass you for a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:21 AM
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Sure, calling it a "red flag" and claiming the men simply can't get any isn't shaming. Just like the word slut isn't shaming. It's just a strong way to express that you wouldn't want to date someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:13 AM
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I've only ever had casual sex with guys who were either explicit about wanting casual sex, or who didn't meet my standards for dating. I imagine you're talking about women who aren't genuinely comfortable with casual sex. Plenty of women have casual sex with a more attractive guy as a consolation prize for not being able to have a relationship with him. Yet you don't want anyone to assume that about you. Why should anyone give you the benefit of the doubt when you like to make assumptions about …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 02:02 AM
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Why does it matter? Maybe they're having sex with Chad for a slim chance at a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:33 AM
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He pays so he can have sex with a more attractive women, just like women have casual sex so chad will give them the time of day. BTW, everything you say about a guy who pays for sex can be said for a woman who buys a sex toy for herself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 01:14 AM
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Then you agree with men who feel the same way about promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:52 AM
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What many men see is irrelevant, especially if their viewpoint disqualifies them for dating lol Tell that to all the women constantly whining about slutshaming and gender roles. Again, one is paid. One is free They're not paying for sex. They're paying for safety and to be left alone afterwards. It's the same thing. If a man has trouble getting free casual sex, I don't want him. Plenty of women fuck guys out of their league because they know without sex, the guy would never otherwise give them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:51 AM
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You want desperately for hiring a prostitute to be the equivalent of casual sex, though. It isn't. That's your opinion so you can feel better about yourself for having casual sex. The whole point of OP's post is that many men see women who go for easy casual sex the same way many women see men who use prostitutes. So far, neither you nor any other woman here have been able to explain the difference other than with their "feels".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:25 AM
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One, a man should be capable of reading women and determining whether they'd be down for casual sex. Being down for casual sex doesn't mean doesn't mean it's going happen right away with no effort from him. Just because you have some weird sexuality doesn't mean it applies to other women. Two, getting mad about having to prove he's safe suggests he isn't. Who the hell is getting mad? I didn't even say it was a bad reason. But the point is any hooker who's smart will have safety measures in place…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 12:17 AM
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I don't want a man that other women don't want. What if the guy was attractive enough to get sex normally, but pays for the convenience (and for more attractive women)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:53 PM
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If women got pleasure from that they'd all do it for free What a bunch of bull. If a musician charges for gigs, does that mean he actually hates playing music?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:50 PM
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Quit playing dumb. Most women, no matter how promiscuous they are, won't be down to have sex right after meeting someone. Part of it is due to insecurity; she'll feel too "slutty" if the guy didn't have to put in effort at all. The other part is due to safety, at least making sure he's not crazy before sleeping with him. And of course, using a prostitute means a guy can get a more attractive woman, even if he doesn't have trouble getting laid with more average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:44 PM
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Lol, common sense says that if you're attracted to someone, you sleep with him. I don't why you think being a woman makes you more credible. Ever heard the saying "Don't ask fish for advice on how to catch fish, ask a fisherman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:18 AM
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You have nothing useful to say, so you resort to ad hominem. I thought it would end this way. Contrary to what you think, many guys here with similar attitudes are in happy relationships and don't struggle with dating. They merely have standards for the woman they date. When you approach dating with the attitude of "either she's fuck yes about me or it's a no", everything becomes easier. There's no need to play games, have strategies, etc. Any guy who's experienced this even with one woman would…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:16 AM
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Your "studies" explain nothing if you simply listen to actual different humans, studies can never fully explain complex human behaviour (plus there's always studies on both sides). And your spiritual claptrap is supposed to be better at explaining human behavior? Guarding your heart and mind? What's next, become one with mother earth and you'll find a happy relationship? What's funny is that the studies don't even contradict what you're saying. What evolutionary motivations do people have for re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:31 AM
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Lol, the whole reason men end up in the TRP is because women have told them lies about women their entire life. Nobody should take you seriously if you believe anecdotes are more valid than studies. I can literally find women here on PPD who say they put men in different "tiers" when deciding whether he gets to have sex. Are my "anecdotes" better than yours? You clearly don't understand how science works. To greatly simplify for you, science can sort of be thought as a collection of "anecdotes",…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:16 AM
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I don't care about gender. I would say the same thing to a guy who doesn't take responsibility for his choice to have sex with a woman after getting drunk. Imagine a guy cheating on his girlfriend and then saying "it doesn't count" because he was drunk. I'm SURE that would go over well. I will repost my earlier citation The trial judge’s reasons should not be read as equating any degree of intoxication with incapacity, as what was at issue was the extreme degree of intoxication to which the comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:48 PM
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You can't consent to sign a contract, get a tattoo, get married or have sex when drunk. So show me a case where someone got convicted for rape on the sole basis that "she wouldn't have done it if she was sober". Should be easy right? If you drink, YOU are responsible for whatever actions YOU chose to take while drunk. It doesn't matter if it's driving a car, throwing something at the bartender, or having sex. Others are not responsible for YOUR decisions. Repeat after me. Regret. Is. Not. Rape. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:30 PM
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It's wrong to make assumptions about a specific couple if you don't know them. If a person does that, no one can stop her, but she's still a b*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 04:59 AM
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If some loser guy wants to stick his nose in the business of a happy couple, he can shut his mouth, just like any jealous post-wall FDSer out there should do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 03:46 AM
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The reds don't want to date high n-count women. They don't give a fuck if other people choose to date them. That's the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:33 AM
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People who divorce once are more likely to divorce again. So don't marry divorcees. But why are you so obsessed with marriage anyway? What if people just want to date without marriage? You don't get to choose other people's relationship goals
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:29 AM
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Back at it again huh? Many studies show that age-gap relationships are equal or better https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1024&context=psychpubs The minimal research that does exist suggests that there are both ups and downs to being involved in an agediscrepant romance. In particular, such relationships are subject to social disapproval and stereotyping by society at large, especially in cases where the older partner is a woman. At the same time, however, age-gap partners a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:41 AM
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but they were impressed by the fact that they had cars, were in college, etc Attraction is attraction whether it's for looks or something else
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:34 AM
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No, it's not about being afraid of rejection. Most women also get rejected on the regular. It's about being careful to not get used in a way they can't stomach.. if they're looking to fuck they don't wanna get used emotionally too and guard their mind, if they're looking for a LTR they don't wanna get used sexually (as it will hurt when they're interested in more than sex) and guard their body. Lmao, if a woman wanted a relationship (with sex), and she only got sex, then she got rejected. You ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:19 AM
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I literally gave examples of women on PPD saying they do just that. But it doesn't matter. The fact that it's even possible means that "if they would have done it while sober" cannot be used as a factor. And it applies to everything else as well. If two drunk guys get into a bar fight, they can get in trouble and be held responsible for any damages. The fact that it wouldn't have happened if they were sober has zero relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:02 PM
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I personally never had casual sex and I'm in a LTR. I simply am able to see other people's views. You think you understand but you don't. If you don't partake in casual sex, stop pretending like you know the motivations of people who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:54 PM
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Absolutely false. I literally just finished a debate about this with another person. She thought she was clever for bringing it up but was completely unable to back up her claims when scrutinized: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sbyn05/how_constantly_criticizing_men_effects_dating_and/hu3vgbj/ Long story short, alcohol lowers inhibitions. People are aware of this and often drink for the purpose of doing things they wouldn't do if they were sober. Regret is not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:52 PM
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That's a small percentage compared to the amount of people who have drunk consensual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:47 AM
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Well I re-iterate what I said earlier, that your advice is bad for women (at least those that like casual sex) because most people don't date that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:58 AM
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That's how people in western countries date. And it's why women who withhold sex are (rightfully) treated with high suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:55 AM
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No it's not antithetical. I meet a woman and we have sex. We're still casual. We go on a few more dates, maybe have a bit more sex. We decide that we like each other and enter a relationship. The casual sex was part of the formation of the relationship. It allowed us to get to know each other (and check sexual compatibility). They were both happening at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:46 AM
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Of course I intend to enjoy sex when I have it. That's part of why I wait until I know the guy is sincere. I was talking about casual sex. Clearly, if you partake in it, then you find value in having sex with an attractive person. Who can enjoy sex when they don't know whether their partner is faking romance just to get laid? Someone who enjoys casual sex. And I don't see casual sex as something that can be done "on the way" to a relationship. It's one of the two directions at a fork in the road…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:35 AM
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That's like saying I can't assume I would be hurt in an earthquake, even though I've never been in one lol Dumb analogy. First of all, plenty of people choose to have sex and don't get hurt. It's more like being afraid of a peanut allergy without ever having tried peanuts. And that's my point...sex with an attractive person isn't valuable to me, especially if it turns out they're immoral. It's definitely valuable to you or else you wouldn't have casual sex. If you choose to have sex without the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:26 AM
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Again, I've been referring to making men wait when they tell me they want a relationship, because men will fake that just to get laid. And we're going in circles. You assume that's what they would do even though you admit it's never happened to you. It's your own insecurity. If I fucked a guy who said he wanted to date me and then it came out after the fact that he was lying, it would be 100% regrettable and embarrassing. So whatever keeps that from happening, I'll do it. If you're attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:12 AM
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If I'm ok with casual sex, then I'll fuck if we're attracted to each other. What the hell is there to lie about? Where she went to school? Who cares. That has nothing to with why we're fucking. Also, apparently, sex doesn't matter to you but it's supposed to be some kind of "reward" for honesty? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:58 AM
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Sorry, this is PPD, not TwoXChromosomes. Take your emotional appeals elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:50 AM
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If a person needs to withhold sex, then sex is important to that person. Otherwise, who cares who you fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:35 AM
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An ability or talent allows you to do something better yourself, and good looks don't do that. What a silly argument. Just like the basketball player still has to run around and grab the ball, the good-looking guy still has to go on dates and have a minimum amount of social skills. That doesn't change the fact that their natural abilities make things much easier for them (and give them a huge leg up over the competition). Rewards are transactional: you can't reward someone reciprocally, so it ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:32 AM
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half. Sorry half my point. You never in good faith address the action is deliberate for the purpose of sex and not two people having fun. Yep, keep changing the goalposts. First, it was "changing people's behavior", now it's "the purpose of sex". It really doesn't matter however. If you choose to drink, you are responsible for the actions you take as a result of drinking. You can keep covering your ears all you want, it won't stop it from being true. Watch the video I posted This is a classic ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:13 AM
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Why would anybody be disgusted for fucking someone they find physically attractive? But, you've now said it loud and clear. Whether or not you fuck someone is based on whether he meets your standards. If one guy has to wait but another guy doesn't, it's pretty obvious the second guy meets your standards the most while the first guy falls a bit short. I hope other men are reading this. Straight from the horse's mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:10 AM
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It's not that she doesn't guard her body, she just does it differently. She can still respect herself. Her priorities and boundaries are just different then. Different ≠ Nonexistent. You forget the fact that women (looking for casual hookups) instead guard their mind much more 'cause they offer their bodys intimacy. If they guard their body instead (when looking for a LTR) they will offer their minds intimacy, hence why a casual hookup with a potential boyfriend will hurt. All I'm hearing is "I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:05 AM
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I'm not complaining, I'm cringing. I also cringe when men say why they do what they do, because it's pretty clear they want some way to control women. This becomes most obvious when we point out that we're not static programming objects that respond as a class to inputs in predictable ways, and then men get upset and say women are confusing. Men are not trying to control anything. If you're looking for a betabux, most men want nothing to do with you. Don't be upset that you can't control others …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:19 PM
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You can be drunk, but not so drunk that you lack reasoning capacity. I'd say this is the majority of cases of drunken sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:16 PM
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it's not true that in most cases, one person was noticably less drunk than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:15 PM
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You can't consent when you're drunk either, Yes you can. Stop parrotting misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:28 PM
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If a grown-ass man, even if drunk, lets a woman pound him in the ass. The onus absolutely is on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:27 PM
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Casual sex and drunk sex are strongly linked. It doesn't make it rape just because you want it to. BTW, "pre-discussing" insn't a thing. If you can't consent in a situation, then you can't withdraw consent in the same situation, making any pre-discussion irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:25 PM
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If you're drunk but concious and making decisions, you're responsible for your own decisions. Regret is not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:22 PM
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In most cases of drunken sex, both parties are drunk. Casual sex and drinking and strongly linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:21 PM
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Fame, prestige, money and professional training are the kinds of things that people are competing for, but anyone can start up a basketball team Yes, and you get all those things for being on a good team. And no, not anyone can just start a good team. If there is another person who wants to have sex with that man, then who's getting rewarded with sex? What the hell is this supposed to mean? If multiple people want something from you, and you give it to the person in exchange for them being the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:33 AM
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YES, being on a team is a reward on its own. There are much fewer teams than there are athletes in the sport who want to make it professionally. Furthermore, some teams are prestigious which is large incentive on its own. And there's a major point you're ignoring. There are OTHER players who want to be on that team that don't get to because they're not talented enough. Just like there are OTHER men who want to have sex with that woman but don't get to because they're not talented enough. The one…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:45 AM
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more obtuseness... Talent: being tall achievement: rebounding the basketball Reward: getting hired on the team The player wants to be on the team and the team wants the player on the team. They both want it but the player is still getting rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:32 AM
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I see it's hard for you to understand why women guard their bodies, but it really shouldn't. Actually listen to them as to why they do it. Sorry, but a woman who got railed by Chad on first nights multiple times has established that she doesn't care about "guarding her body". She is clearly comfortable having sex without a relationship. This means that the only reason she has to make a guy wait is that she's using the sex as leverage. There's no good reason for the guy to find it acceptable to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:24 AM
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?? Talent: being tall Achievement: rebounding the basketball Reward: $$ Talent: being good looking Achievement: sexually arousing his partner Reward: sex simple enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:09 AM
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The good looking person is achieving the sexual arousal of the other person, Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 09:02 AM
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Ya, I'll just sue the bartender for theft because he encouraged me to drink knowing the more I drink, the more likely I'll be to buy more drinks, or sue my friend for encouraging me to drink so I'll sing bad karaoke in front of everyone. Are you implying that these women are insane? Gee, it couldn't possibly be that you're the one with the insane views who needs to stop reading feminist blogs and step out into the real world more often. Weird how you only ever had address my point. Almost like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:27 AM
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Encouraging someone to drink more isn't predatory. It's still each person's own decision/responsibility whether they want to drink more or not. Usually, the person doing the encouraging is drinking more themselves. But your statement that it's rape if "she wouldn't have done it if she was sober" is completely divorced from reality. You don't have to take it from me. Take it from other women in PPD. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/rxfiv8/why_does_it_take_alcohol_for_most_women_…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:09 AM
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https://ipolitics.ca/2021/05/14/top-court-clarifies-law-governing-consent-when-victim-is-intoxicated/ Nice try, but that doesn't meet the requirement "on the basis that she wouldn't have done it if she was sober". The case mentions nothing about that. It simply focuses on whether someone is too drunk to consent. Capacity to consent requires that the complainant have an operating mind capable of understanding the physical act, its sexual nature, and the specific identity of their partner, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:09 AM
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Yes it legally does. Hence why it's not just rape Show me a case where someone was convicted of rape on the basis that "she wouldn't have done it if she was sober". The law and thankfully most basic human mortality disagree with you. If your idea of morality is minimizing regret, then sure. But then you should just advise people not to get drunk, period. If you preform predatory and calculations behavior, then you are expected to face the consequences of those actions. If you make decisions whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:28 AM
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What do you mean by "plying"? If you mean forcing a drink down her mouth, then sure. Otherwise, a woman who chooses to drink is responsible for own decision to drink. have sex with her while aware she wouldn't do it sober, is Sorry, but whether or not she would have done it sober has absolutely no bearing on the situation. One of the main reasons people drink a lot is to do things they wouldn't otherwise do when they're sober. This could be as simple as being more social at a party to dancing li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:03 AM
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That's why unless you're against having casual sex, it's better to have sex earlier rather than later. Once that's out of the way, it's easy to figure out if there's something more or not. Much less time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:59 AM
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We are just moving into a post rape culture Era where getting a girl drunk to sleep with you isn't acceptable advice Just to be clear, drunk people having sex isn't rape
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:29 AM
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I mean it's an interesting observation that many women have a low opinion of prostitution but willingly engage in it. Then what's the issue? But anyway, you just answered your own question lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:49 AM
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Ask the women in this thread and all the others. They seem triggered that men would leave them for this and claiming it's insecurity etc. Like, the explanation is so clear. If people wanted a prostitutional relationship, they would find a prostitute lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:26 AM
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Men don't want to be pleased by post-wall women desperate enough to withhold sex. That's the whole point of this thread lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:53 AM
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Thanks for confirming that you talk out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:48 AM
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Then link the posts. Because I can link you dozens of men who say they'd give a woman a chance as long as she's consistent, but would disregard her otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:44 AM
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Doesn't mean "chad" didn't have to respect boundaries, she just had different priorities then. Yep, approaching the wall and needing to find a beta to settle down with. Also, men who see sex as a "reward" instead of placing value on human connection have issues. The same with men who think they can dictate how women think / feel based on her actions who they observe from outside. You're right, sex should really not be a big deal. If a woman is attracted to a guy, then unless she's against casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:41 AM
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If you're someone for whom regular hookups are a natural option, being labeled "boyfriend material" by one woman doesn't matter, you understand women have different preferences at different points in their life If you're that type of person with options, and sex is important to you, you would just dump the woman who doesn't give it to you lol. Also, using your same logic, a woman who's attracted to a guy but won't sleep with him is also not relationship material. She has scarcity mentality or el…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:50 PM
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Then, they don't have any self-respect lol And you just proved you've been talking out of your ass. You've never used for sex, but you assume many guys do this? Nobody should listen to your advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:49 PM
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is he ditches you, and you feel heartbroken. Heartbreak is painful and unpleasant. Sex makes many people (quite a lot of women) more attached to someone. So you don't want to deal with rejection. Welcome to the world of men. What are men told when they're afraid to ask women out? You can want something but not expect it. And well-adjusted men approach dating like this, and that's how women should approach it. In the worst case, she gets to have sex with an attractive guy while being mildly disap…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:42 PM
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Women are telling you in plain English why we do things the way we do them... and you are insisting we shouldn't do things that way. 😬 And this entire thread is men telling you why they do things the way they do. So what the hell are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:34 PM
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Quit being obtuse. It's like saying an athlete who gets paid more isn't being rewarded because he has natural talent. And before you say it, a good-looking guy who never showers isn't going to be rewarded either. That doesn't mean if he does shower and gets laid, he wasn't "rewarded".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:28 PM
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Then get mad about men who fake relationships just to get laid. That's not what happened. Instead, they had sex with you, gave you a chance for a relationship, and decided you're not good enough. I make men wait for me, not for them. No shit, of course women do this to be self-serving at the expense of men. The whole point of this post is that no self-respecting guy would put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:24 PM
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Some women are strictly into LTRs, so it's either LTR/marriage material or nothing. Why the hell do you people keep bringing this up? There's a difference between making every guy wait vs making some guys waits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:19 PM
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Chad gets to rail her on day 1, but the "attractive" boyfriend has to "respect her boundaries" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:18 PM
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These male users, even self-described players, will settle down if they meet the right woman (which has nothing to do with when she has sex with him). I've seen it time and time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:18 AM
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weed out guys who don't want to stick around No self-respecting guy, even a relationship-minded one, is going to stick around for someone who makes him wait and not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:15 AM
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Lol that's what women who get dumped tell themselves. The real reason is she simply wasn't interesting/high-value enough to keep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:07 AM
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Ya, women never regret having sex. Unless she was raped of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 10:10 PM
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The circus that is radical feminist ideology and their made-up pseudo-intellectual terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 09:16 PM
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Sexual coercion is the same as a man buying a woman some pizza? Just stop. Regret sex is nowhere close to sexual assault. You are responsible for your own avtions. The government doesn't exist to help prevent you from beinc pump-n-dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 03:28 PM
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The scenario being discussed isn’t a woman who has casual sex making a guy wait, it’s a woman who used to have casual sex making a guy wait. Past behavior is a predictor of future behavior. A woman can choose not to date a former alcoholic even if he's sobered up now. If sex is her only leverage withholding it does nothing. That’s absurd. Mostly true. Just like how an unattractive guy might spend a lot of money on a woman hoping she'll find him sexually attractive. It probably won't work, but so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:57 PM
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You can think all you want that n-counts shouldn't matter to people, it's not up for you to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:48 PM
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You're misinterpreting what he said . His girlfriends past is only a problem if she was dishonest about it, ie she had a ONS in the past but is now pretending to be pure and demanding that he wait. The waiting is the key part. If she had casual sex in the past but also slept with him quickly it wouldn't be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:54 AM
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A woman who participates in casual sex has no reason to make a guy wait if she likes him. In the worse case she still gets to have sex with an attractive guy. Actually, she does have two reasons to make him wait: She lacks relationship qualities and sex is the only thing she can leverage to try to make a guy stay. She's approaching the wall and is desperate to settle. In either case (and often a combination of both), the woman should be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:50 AM
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For real who is doing that? FDSers and women approaching the wall
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:18 AM
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FDSers can try to shame mens' standards all they want. They're still not getting committment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:15 AM
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You become #5 by not giving the time of day to women who withhold.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:14 AM
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The degree of "participation" obviously matters but why are you so shocked that people judge you on your past actions? If a guy used to be an alcoholic and have sobered up, a person might still have reservations about dating that guy, which is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:12 AM
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Then she can have sex with him hoping for something more but not expecting it. Then, in the worse case, she got to sleep with an attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:10 AM
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FDS is a sub for women who men don't want to have a relationship with. To try to lock down a man, these women withhold sex because it's the only leverage they have (due to lacking any other meaningful relationship qualities). Many of the women getting triggered by mens' replies in this thread are likely part of or sympathetic to FDS. You said it's a double standard if a man is willing to have sex on the first date etc, but it's not unless he also makes some women wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:53 AM
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Men can have whatever standards they want. There are lot of post-wall femcels out there who want to shame men into changing them, but they're not entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:33 AM
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Look, you're entitled to do gangbangs all you want, but you're not entitled to be free of judgement from it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:28 AM
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Isn't it also a double standard, that you're willing to have sex with women on the first date, yet it's a shady thing if a woman chooses to do the same when she's single? Do they have a different definition of double standard at FDS? It's a double standard only if he's willing to have sex with some women on the first date while making other women wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:24 AM
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People who didn't party much themselves absolutely do care. Even a woman who didn't party much is going to have reservations about a man who did. But at least he won't try to pretend to be something he's not and make her wait for sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 07:30 AM
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people can and will judge you for your past. good luck trying to shame people into not doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:59 AM
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So if the man is a slut, he shouldn't make a woman wait for sex. Sounds fair to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:29 AM
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Or the guys who drive recklessly or drink too much alcohol when they’re teens/early 20s and then grow up and realize their behavior was dangerous and toxic, so they modify it and become more responsible? If if a woman found out a guy did these things in the past, it's perfectly within her right to not want to date him. Just like it's perfectly reasonable for guys to not want to date the town bicycle who makes him wait
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:28 AM
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I think because if a man did this exact same thing, that is the likely response. So there's no reason to hold women to a different standard. You didn't think this through did you? A man isn't going to make a woman wait for sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:19 AM
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Lmao, entitled women like her are why more men join the TRP. What's up with women being outraged about being selected for weight when they're unapologetic about selecting for things like height?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:17 PM
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To some people she might be. I think it’s foolish to pretend that being a single parent when you’re 35+ is some kind of turn off in the dating market of that age group, when the vast majority of people aged 35+ or 40+ already have children themselves. Lol, if you make the "market" so specific, then sure, there's someone for everyone. Just like a short guy making minimum wage might be able to find someone in his "market". But objectively speaking, an older divorced woman with kids is not attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:00 AM
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Old, single parent acts like she's a "prize" in the dating market, and people mock her for it? Clearly, people don't like sTrOnG cOnfiDent wOmAn. Lol, this is r/ChoosingBeggars material. The fact that women feel the need to stick up for her just shows that caricatures of FDS are in fact true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:34 AM
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She's old and has kids lol /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:34 PM
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She's old and has kids lol /thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:33 PM
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Sick pics are stupid but women acting like dick pics have such a detrimental effect on their lives is also stupid. Especially during the pandemic, even men are receiving lots of explicit spam. Just delete, block, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:41 PM
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Be agreeable. Don't argue with him, don't voice your opinion too often, let him lead, all of it. I think it can be harmful in a lot of cases. There's a difference between teaching girls and boys to be nice to others and teaching them being okay when people walk all over them. Also I don't really think that we should teach girls that they shouldn't take initiative. I think there's been a study showing that women who do approach men more often end up with desirable partners. Many women don't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:58 PM
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It's a women-who-get-pump-n-dumped problem (FDSers). That's who we're talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:55 PM
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Lol at the FDSers getting triggered in this thread. The one thing we can all agree on is that men are self-serving. If a woman provides sex and a guy's life is improved by being in a relationship with her, he's not going to turn that down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:51 PM
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incels have nothing to offer so they don't get sex. women who have nothing to offer get pump-n-dumped. this is why FDSers should be treated as incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:48 PM
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So to add to this, clearly being chosen by a desirable woman will make you more attractive. How about a less desirable woman? Like if I walk around with a obese girl will that be better or worse than being just single. How obese? lol . It's possible someone is so unattractive that being seen with them could lower your "social credit", but generally, some woman is better than none. At least it shows you have experience interacting with women. And obviously, the more attractive she is, the more it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:52 AM
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Is water wet? This is easily confirmed by research but really, anyone who has gone outside already knows this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26181063/ https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-018-0099-y
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:50 AM
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Most people leave fairly quickly? Uh, no they don't. How sheltered and naive do you have to be to believe this? You seriously think relationships is an either-or between a happy relationship and no relationship? You've never met anyone in an unhappy marriage or one where the two sides can tolerate each other but aren't completely happy? You've never heard anyone say something bad about their SO/spouse despite staying with them? You don't know of couples who have fights, but the fights aren't sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:16 AM
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Do you really need everything spelled out for you? If two people are in a relationship that eventually breaks up, there would be a period of time when they're STILL IN THE RELATIONSHIP but not happy. These people would report their relationship as being less than satisfactory or unhappy. We compared relationship satisfaction between women in AGRs and SARs to determine if there is truth to the opinion that women in AGRs will not be happy with their relationship. We replicated findings from Lehmil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:24 AM
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Which would've been captured in the study...stay in school
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:52 AM
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Ah that explains a lot. Your knowledge of relationships come from TV. See, in the real world, people aren't happy in a relationship one day and then suddenly decide they're not and break up the next day. People steadily grow less and less happy in a relationship until it reaches a breaking point. I mean at least adults do, maybe it's different in your age cohort. That means there's usually a fairly long period of time when both people are still in the relationship but aren't happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:35 AM
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Right, because when people are happy in a relationship, one day they'll suddenly decide they're not and just break up. That's not how relationships "go south", genius. But I'm glad you can at least admit that women who choose to enter AGR are in fact happy about it lol. Not to mention that the study goes deeper and also measures the attachment styles of the women. The anxiety scale measures an individual’s security about their partner’s availability and fear of being abandoned. The avoidance sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:51 PM
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"...polling data from more than 3,000 recently married and divorced Americans... one-year discrepancy in a couple's ages, the study found, makes them 3 percent more likely to divorce (when compared to their same-aged counterparts); a 5-year difference, however, makes them 18 percent more likely to split up. And a 10-year difference makes them 39 percent more likely." People who divorce are more likely to divorce again, duh. https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Febs0000064 We compared …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 02:28 PM
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Lol ok fine, if you're in a 3rd world country, don't enter age-gap relationships for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:07 AM
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1019673927286 It is found that a positive age gap between husband and wife increases both male and female life satisfaction, LOL Nigeria. Ya, there couldn't possibly be other reasons why relationships don't work in 3rd-world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 10:21 AM
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Nope. https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1024&context=psychpubs The minimal research that does exist suggests that there are both ups and downs to being involved in an agediscrepant romance. In particular, such relationships are subject to social disapproval and stereotyping by society at large, especially in cases where the older partner is a woman. At the same time, however, age-gap partners are often more satisfied and committed to one another than partners who are more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 05:25 AM
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I'm not trying to paint them this way at all. Women have a nature, though, and it's not something that can be controlled. One can't ask women to be attracted to something that they are not. It's more reasonable to expect very attractive men to control themselves and to seek to satiate their sexual appetites within loving, monogamous relationships. Still trying to paint it as mens' fault? If a woman can't get an attractive guy to be in a relationship with her, she needs to improve herself or lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 01:21 AM
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*Women work less hours due to having to take care of the household + kids, aka unpaid labor. Men aren’t working longer hours because they love it, they’re working longer hours because they have more time on their hands that allows them to do so. The wage gap is not “mythical” according to thousands of researchers. It exists and for the reason(s) so is due to several factors, one of which is women’s biology and companies seeing it as a liability thus reason to pay them less. Wow that was quick. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 03:59 AM
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So where are all the feminist campaigns to give women the right to work and vote? Oh right, there is none, because those issues were settled a while ago and virtually no one cares anymore. How about I give you a more plausible explanation why people don't like feminists? Because they're whiny little shits--the exact opposite of the strong, independent women you seem to think they are. Let's look at the things feminists are actually whining about. You want better pay? How about working more hours…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 08:28 AM
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So you think most men who have already amounted to something support feminism? Is Trump pro-feminist? Is that why feminists keep attacking high-contributing economic sectors (wall street, the tech sector) as being sexist? lol the delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:29 AM
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This is coming from someone who thinks a woman is entitled to keep her boyfriend while getting fat lol. What women have a hard time accepting is that more rights come with more responsibilities. You can do all the things men can do but no one's going to coddle you (as they wouldn't for men).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:25 AM
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What a load of bull. Trump's daughter is a high-powered career woman. Even the more conservative guys I know have no problem with their daughters doing STEM and other traditionally "male" fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 06:23 AM
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You're entitled to date whoever you want, but I hope you have the self-awareness to realize your views are weird and not shared by the majority. If two people had sex and enjoyed it, why would they not want the same experience again? duh People do dating things because it's enjoyable. It's unfortunate there are women like you who see dating as a job interview for a long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 03:05 AM
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And many people don't necessarily see holding hands, kissing, and paying for dates as indicative of something long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 02:59 AM
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What the hell are you talking about? If an incel can't get sex because he's only pursuing the hottest women, of course we'll say he deserves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 11:37 PM
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Because it's implied? Duh, by healthy BMI, whose health do you think it's referring to? And of course, no one wants to have sex with an unhealthy person, unhealthy = unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:33 AM
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lol the entitlement. God forbid he expects her to stay within a healthy BMI that's not just good for their relationship but also good for her well-being. And someone who plans to prioritize career so much that she can't even stay in shape? Great parent she would make!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:06 AM
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Homosexuals make up less than 3% of the population and most of them can get easy access to casual sex. You've been given pretty clear answers (that anyone with half a brain could figure out) yet you keep deflecting. Why don't you pull some stats that show that the demand for male porn, gay or otherwise, is as high as it is for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:32 AM
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I'm sorry to tell you but giving your dick out to everyone decreases your value. Classic FDS crap with no bearing in reality. Women want men that other women want. And if these guys are ghosting right after sex, it means they haven't spent time to determine if she's worth keeping after having sex either. Or they already determined she's not worth keeping
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:55 PM
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An obese single mother can also set better boundaries, doesn't mean she's getting what she wants lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:54 PM
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not that hard honestly. but that's not the point. the point is that high-value guys don't need to determine that before they can have sex with a woman. for them, it's have sex first, then determine if she's worth keeping
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:11 PM
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it won't happen again if she has relationship qualities good enough for guys she's trying to date. can you read?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:09 PM
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If you think it'll only happen once, then what are you afraid of? Chances are you are chasing guys out of your league. You might not since so because you're physically attractive, but guys look for more than that for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:56 AM
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Sorry to say, but if you keep getting pump-n-dumped, you probably don't have great relationship qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:48 AM
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The time/validation she gets from the used guy are actually "pricier" than money/food.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:48 AM
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TwoX is a cesspool/ echo chamber that doesn't reflect the real world. People come here specifically to avoid subs like that. Not to mention that of course people are more likely to post about bad experiences. A guy who was polite when rejected won't leave any impression and will be forgotten about the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:33 PM
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no idea what you're talking about, most women aren't in FDS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:14 AM
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But I don't like incels, which is why I don't like FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 10:24 PM
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Yep, that's why FDS is more akin to incels than TRP. Incels also teach that the reason they can't get women is because women suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:40 PM
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😂😂😂. There’s two types of posts you’ll find on FDS…. First type, is people like me making fun of guys…. And no I’m not a “man hater”…. It’s just funny…. Take it with a grain of salt guys… lmao, that's exactly what incels were saying about their comments on women when their subreddits got shut down
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:07 AM
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A woman with good relationship qualities doesn't repeatedly get pump-n-dumped lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:45 AM
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Ok..but even TRP isn't delusional enough to tell guys that the main reason they get beta-buxxed is because they didn't "choose women correctly" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 04:43 AM
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Their obsession with tactics to avoid getting pump-n-dumped? A woman who can easily get committed relationships wouldn't be on FDS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:09 PM
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Ha, that's what FDS are telling themselves. But anyone with a shred of common sense can tell you that if you consistently fail to get a man to commit to you, the problem goes beyond "choosing incorrectly".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:52 PM
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Sure, it looks like Brazil, where I'm from also has a low context culture LOL, no it's not. You're out of your depth and talking out of your ass. https://www.ldldproject.net/cultures/brazil/differences/interpersonal.html Gudykunst, Ting-Toomey, & Chua (1988), differentiate cultures on the basis of the variables in communication and interaction styles predominant within each culture. One of the variables refers to individualism versus collectivism; another variable refers to low context versus hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 08:54 PM
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"Opinions" of people who have experience dealing with cross-cultural communication and issues. You can be obtuse all you want, the fact that there are so many "opinions" stating the same thing shows there's truth to it. But here is a study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01463378309369485 The results suggest that members of high-context cultures are more cautious in initial interactions with strangers than are members of low-context cultures (t = -2.50, df = 285, p < .01). This find…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:54 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/adaptation/201701/top-6-reasons-foreigners-hate-american-style-small-talk https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAnAmerican/comments/9xpx1r/why_do_americans_chit_chat_with_complete/ https://hbr.org/2013/02/the-big-challenge-with-america
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:41 PM
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Most Americans are fine talking to strangers. Some foreigners even think it's weird/fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:17 PM
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you carried it over from your original country
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:32 AM
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Then I'm betting that paranoia over crime rates is what gives you your mentality. You have to the right to talk to people. People have the right to ignore you. Who cares if not everyone likes you. That's not even the purpose of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:02 PM
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Florida is in the south, but you're gonna say it doesn't count, Midwest, lol there's basically nothing there, I don't like rural areas Right, because there's no mid-to-large cities in the midwest... I'm not even from the US, I go to college in the US Middle East? Third world country? Funny how people assume that people that don't agree with them don't know anything about the real world, I've been in 3 different continents, is that good enough for you Then it must be a self-fulfilling prophecy. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:08 PM
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I said big cities. Not every city is like NYC, where everybody only minds their own business. Ever been to the south? midwest? Traveled outside the US? Funny how people who believe their own views are so "progressive" know very little about the real world. Just because you've grown up believing neuroticism is normal doesn't mean it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:45 AM
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You won’t be able to tell which women on the street are single, which ones have boyfriends, and which ones are open to dating. bad take, how did people date before online dating was a thing? I can't wrap my head around people who believe the best way to date is something that wasn't even a thing 20 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 11:02 PM
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Uh, speaking with strangers, even outside the context of dating, is pretty normal in some places (i.e. outside big cities). It sounds like you're the sheltered one who lacks social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 10:59 PM
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If you agree with me that men shouldn't be incentivised by meaningless sex, maybe don't place the blame on women? lmao, your solution is that men should just stop wanting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:48 PM
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This scenario is meticulously set up to be a "gotcha" type question, and tries to reinforce the the false notion that women don't have agency and only do regretful things because of trauma/abuse, but the real world is not so black and white. Let's take the classic example that men complain about. A woman who constantly slept with previous guys early on now wants to "settle down" and make a guy wait. Some women will excuse her by saying she must have been incredibly naive or lived a traumatic lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:49 PM
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cough TwoXChromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:51 PM
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As long as we all agree it's not "coercive sex" or some other bs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:07 PM
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Sorry, the government shouldn't step in to protect you from getting pump-n-dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:02 AM
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Good luck prosecuting people for lying on dates lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 01:22 AM
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The feminists that claim that lying to get sex is "coercive" must be squirming right now. But no, despite it being an FDSer's wet dream, you can't prosecute someone for something like lying about wanting a relationship to get sex. All the guy has to say is he changed his mind, and then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 10:55 PM
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The point is that usually the power imbalance relationship has no benefit to the person on top except for the power. They have nothing to gain except for the potential to harm someone vulnerable. That should raise eyebrows as to why they would seek out a relationship like that in the first place. Your own reasoning doesn't work for age-gap relationships. An older man isn't in an age gap relationship because the only thing he has to gain is the "potential to harm someone". He's in it because what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:42 PM
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A gay guy could be a straight guy's most manipulative best friend ever and he still wouldn't sleep with him. Are you suggesting that being attracted to someone absolves you of responsibility for your decisions? Haha, you really should think before you type because you really don't want to go down that road
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:49 AM
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Nice attempt to sneakily conflate two completely different things. As been stated a thousand times, use of threats of harm are already covered under the law. This is not the same as you getting annoyed by someone's "pestering". Find me a single straight man who would sleep with a gay man because he got "pestered". By your logic , a woman nagging a man to do chores is also illegal.If you find it annoying to that a guy is pestering you for sex, then break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:22 PM
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Salty that a feminist bubble isn't the real world, where women do in fact date older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:14 PM
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FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 09:03 PM
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If pestering someone for sex is "forced sex" then pestering someone to do chores is "forced labor", both of which are illegal. Or we can all grow up and understand the law is not there to help you navigate your dating life and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:16 PM
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I guess a woman nagging her husband to do chores is also a crime then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 08:55 PM
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It's right there in the definition: when force, threats or fraud are used.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:35 PM
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Point me to the law that says otherwise. You can have your own personal morals about dating all you want. But that's all they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:34 PM
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he can't have sex with her but he's free to try and change her mind. if she doesn't like it, she's free to no longer associate with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:20 PM
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Lol, thanks for proving my point. The definition you gave is completely different than the one on that website. Compulsion; force; duress. It may be either actual, (direct or positive.) where physical force Is put upon a man to compel him to do an act against his will, or implied, (legal or constructive.) where the relation of the parties is such that one is under subjection to the other, and is thereby constrained to do what his free will would refuse. No crap about "he kept being annoying and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:14 PM
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"force, threats or fraud as a means of having non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:11 PM
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Nice try, but that's not a law, and for good reason. Those terms are incredibly vague and can't be universally interpreted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:03 PM
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He should do all those things. Just like the gay guy should stop being annoying and asking for sex. Doesn't change the fact if a man/woman agreed to sex, it's not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:52 AM
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Call him an asshole, don't have sex with him, and don't date him. Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:45 AM
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He was threatened. A threat is a form of sexual coercion. Then this is already covered under the law. No changes needed. Correct, there's not. Coercive rape is rape. Date rape is rape. Yes, and if man can turn down sex from a gay man, a stranger, a friend etc in those situations that I described, a woman can easily do the same. No crap about "I didn't want him to be sad or he kept asking so it was annoying".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:41 AM
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I do know a straight man who was raped by coercion by a male rapist. Sorry, unless he used threat or force as covered by the law, it wasn't rape. If that guy agreed to have sex, he's likely gay anyway. Rape by coercion is usually date rape, not stranger rape, though It makes no difference whether the person is a stranger, gay, or straight. There aren't different "rules" concerning rape just because you're dating that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:31 AM
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The issue is that women want equality but don't want equal responsibility. The laws about sex and consent are mostly fine. Certain types of immature women have issues turning down sex so they want society to coddle them by changing the law and using vague terms like "coercion". If you want to know if something is "coercion", simply think how a man would react if another gay man propositioned him for sex. Would he agree if that man kept asking repeatedly? Would he agree if the guy starts whining?…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:20 AM
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lmao, thanks for confirming again that women harping about age gaps is indeed post-wall jealousy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:58 AM
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yes, like the guy you replied to said, young betas often see them as competition
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 04:22 AM
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Older women try to shame men in age-gap relationships. Some younger women always have and always will prefer older guys. If they didn't, they simply wouldn't date older guys and none of this would be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:12 AM
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I'm sure they care that old women think they're gross while younger women are dating them. Of course, you're free to not date them. If I prefer not to date black people, does that mean I get to shame interracial couples made up of a black person and a person of my race? After all, I wouldn't want black people thinking they have a chance with me, right? You're free to reject whoever you like. Who others date is none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:31 AM
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Some guy in a age-gap relationship isn't hitting on you. He's already dating someone (younger).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 05:55 AM
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And you're implying that being inconvenienced by age-gap relationships is a valid reason to try to shame people who are in them, when you should be minding your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 03:25 AM
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Too bad for you then because there will always be some younger women who like older guys. No one has to change their preferences for the sake of your convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:33 PM
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Actually it’s just old dudes who can’t handle being reminded that young women don’t want them If that's true, then I don't want to hear feminists whining about "manipulation" or "power imbalance" ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:35 PM
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these days what could you posibily have in common with a person 5 years older/younger than you hobbies, interests, and values? This has always seemed like a strange argument to me because there are a lot of things that determine two people's compatibility besides age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:23 PM
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I saw no mention of it being historical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 05:09 AM
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Nice try https://www.csus.edu/faculty/m/fred.molitor/docs/Gender%20and%20Oral%20Sex.pdf However, women did report a difference in their comfort level when receiving oral sex: they stated that they would not be comfortable receiving cunnilingus from a one-night stand, but would enjoy it from a committed partner whom they knew well. Not men's fault women aren't comfortable receiving oral sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:31 AM
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... no men are bad at sex, women are better on average at pleasing other women, men are worse at pleasing women, its basic facts then provide evidence for your so-called facts. I bet you can't even name one thing women do better at in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:23 AM
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Relevant to the average person's lifespan, it's quite young. Relative to things that are actually relevant here, the time people start dating, thinking about starting a family, getting married etc, it's not young at all. Those who think so just reinforce the idea that it's bitter older women who are complaining about these relationships. You say this as if it's never happened to anyone. It does. I've been in an international LDR--sometimes, you have to wait. Yes, it's hard. But people do it. Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:18 AM
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Then you clearly lack reading comprehension. Women are worse at sex, but women don't need to be good because men will come from anything
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:24 PM
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This topic is specifically about prejudice in the context of dating. Being a goth is irrelevant because being goth is a choice. Because observation makes it fairly obvious that the only time age-gap couples face social stigma is when one partner is quite young (late teens through mid twenties). Mid twenties is not quite young despite how much you want it to be considered. Some women have children by that age and are happy about it. Age can and does change by necessity, unlike race or orientation…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 12:33 PM
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If you live in "the West," you are a part of "Western culture." Immigrants being an integral part of American society is as old a part of American culture as America itself. And I'm pretty sure that's not what OP was talking about. It's like saying American culture promotes black supremacy because there are black supremacist groups in America. The vast majority of immigrants would never hurt someone for dating someone of a different race. The overwhelming majority of prejudice interracial couple…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:24 AM
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If it's limited and inconsistent, then it's not a meta-analysis. How can it be when there's hardly anything to analyze? If it's inconsistent, then don't make dumb statements about how it's a fact that age-gap relationships are problematic. Especially when there's evidence to show the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:38 AM
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Doesn't matter. The study only looks at 13-17 year olds. It's not relevant because they can't be in legal age-gap relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:33 AM
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People who live in the rural South; people (particularly women) from a variety of immigrant communities who date "out." The people in the South is such a tiny occurence, it's not worth mentioning. And I'm only interested in the context of Western culture, not immigrant culture. But it's not--social prejudice is a fundamentally different beast than the kind of prejudice he was describing. Unless you think goths and juggalos are also right to compare themselves to victims of racism. Nope, the kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:31 AM
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Despite IPV links with sexual health and relationship power, published evidence of the links between older partners and IPV is limited and inconsistent (Gowen, Feldman, Diaz, & Yisrael, 2004; Harner, 2004; Seth et al., 2010).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:57 AM
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FDS is basically female incels. "I can't find a good man because men suck and not because of me. Meanwhile I'll post misandrist comments on FDS and wonder why I keep getting pump-n-dumped."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:45 AM
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Lol, sleeping with people under 18 is already illegal. This says more about your thoughts than anyone elses
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:41 AM
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I can't access that study that says Dutch women like a max age gap of 5-10 years (wierd wording) - but it contradicts your first study that says their mean preference is 2.73 years. The smaller number is likely what they prefer, while the larger one is what they're open to. Explain why a rich country like the Netherlands, considered one of the best countries in the world for women, would have women being open to such large age gaps. Please real in the personal attacks, thank you. Please address …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:34 AM
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So the relationships are abusive but also satisfying? What kind of dumb logic is that? Again, that"'s not a meta analysis. If you want to condemn guys who target poor African American teenage girls in urban areas, go ahead, but that's a tiny subset of age gap relationships. Find a study that actually applies to all people like I did or keep your postings in African American community subreddits
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:24 AM
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You mean quotes such as However, studies have not supported a direct association between older male partners and IPV, particularly with adolescent mothers (Agurcia, Rickert, Berenson, Volk, & Wiemann, 2001; Harner, 2004; Raiford et al., 2007b). However, in adolescents and young adults, results have been mixed. Some studies have shown a correlation between relationship power and condom use or STIs (Buelna, Ulloa, & Ulibarri, 2009; Roye, Krauss, & Silverman, 2010), while other studies did not (Bra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:18 AM
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They're clearly not protecting themselves when they get repeatedly pump and dumped and wind up bitchin on FDS lmao. And it's it's not a factual stat that men are worse at sex. It's that men will orgasm from almost anything. Most women lay there doing nothing, and the man will still come.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:07 AM
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https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-38707-001 Across all 37 cultures sam- pled in Buss (1989)’s cross-cultural survey, women’s ideal long-term mate was on average 3.42 years older. In this study, the age prefer- ence ranged from a low of 1.82 years older in Canada to 5.1 years older in Iran. Dutch women similarly state a maximum age preference be- tween 5 and 10 years older than themselves (Buunk et al., 2001). . Your study also shows that in developing countries, women liked a bigger age gap th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:40 PM
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This is an extremely narrow study that focuses on adolescent African American girls in urban areas. Hardly a meta-analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:23 PM
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Well then, put up or shut up. Here's another study, https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2003-03889-011 Though society and relationship researchers alike often view age-discrepant romances as "taboo," it was expected, in line with divorce rates, that age-discrepant relationships would fare well. It was hypothesized that persons in age-dissimilar relationships would score higher on measures of trust and unselfish love and lower on measures of jealousy than those in age-similar relationships. 324 adults…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:17 PM
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I'm not talking about the gap size. I'm debunking your myth that women are forced into these relationships due to financial pressure. Where's your evidence for this? Here's another study that tries to correlate age gap and women's income in the rich country of Denmark. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334808357_Is_the_age_difference_between_partners_related_to_women's_earnings We hypothesized that the younger a woman is compared to her husband, the greater her income penalty is likely to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 09:09 PM
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What women want isn't always what they get. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/sex-differences-in-human-mate-preferences-evolutionary-hypotheses-tested-in-37-cultures/0E112ACEB2E7BC877805E3AC11ABC889 In table 4, women report wanting a partner with a higher age gap moreso than men report wanting a partner with a lower gap. So it's even the case that women want to be with someone older but the men don't prefer it as much. This applies to the wealthy devel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:21 PM
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Who is physically harmed for being in an interracial relationship? Nobody said people don't have the right to be racist or prejudiced. The OP's point is that prejudice is prejudice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:13 PM
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Obviously, different groups are not marginalized for the exact same reasons, but they can share many of the same social outcomes. As the researchers note: At the same time, numerous commonalities exist among the various types of marginalized relationships. For example, same-sex, interracial, and age-gap partners are all likely to experience less approval, acceptance, and support from social network members and society in general compared to individuals involved in more traditional romantic invol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 08:05 PM
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Virtually no one is killed for being for being in an interracial relationship today. Does that mean it's ok to give couples side-eye about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:53 PM
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Question for those who find age-gap relationships creepy: on the basis of power imbalance: why don't you say the same about high-N count women dating low N-count men? Shouldn't you be warning people about high N-count women? If the issue is an experience gap, the high N-count women have way more experience with the opposite sex and would be better at manipulating her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:49 PM
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Actually there is research showing how age-gap couples are marginalized in the same way as interracial couples and same sex couples, and how they react the same way They note that the “Romeo and Juliet” effect links perceived relationship disapproval by others with increased levels of partner commitment and intimacy. They also cite their own prior research (Lehmiller and Agnew, 2006) finding that partners within what they term “socially marginalized relationships”—such as age-gap, interracial, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:44 PM
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That is, they're both on 'level" with each other in experience and intellect and defer to one another. Then you should warn men about high N-count women. Just to top this off, it's clear to see that the more options women have, the less likely they are to date older men. Which is evident that when they date older men it's (more often than not) for the wrong intentions. No, this a myth. A study found that women who are themselves financially successful care even >more about financial success in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:41 PM
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Actually there is research showing how age-gap couples are marginalized in the same way as interracial couples and same sex couples, and how they react the same way They note that the “Romeo and Juliet” effect links perceived relationship disapproval by others with increased levels of partner commitment and intimacy. They also cite their own prior research (Lehmiller and Agnew, 2006) finding that partners within what they term “socially marginalized relationships”—such as age-gap, interracial, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:31 PM
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Except they don't say what you want them to say The common belief that the women who choose much older partners because of having “daddy issues” was unfounded in this study. There was no significant difference in attachment styles between the 2 groups, and 74% of the women in age-gap relationships were securely attached. Results are consistent with the limited literature on age-gap relationships regarding attachment style and relationship satiattachment https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2015-55834-…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:28 PM
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Plenty of studies show that young women who are in age gap relationships tend to have less healthy lifestyles, more trauma and worse outcomes (higher rates of abuse, domestic violence, unprotected sex, more inclination to date drug dealers and felons, more sex partners). The gap is even as low as 2 years of age. What are these studies? This study directly contradicts you. The common belief that the women who choose much older partners because of having “daddy issues” was unfounded in this study.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:24 PM
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Actually there is research showing how age-gap couples are marginalized in the same way as interracial couples and same sex couples, and how they react the same way They note that the “Romeo and Juliet” effect links perceived relationship disapproval by others with increased levels of partner commitment and intimacy. They also cite their own prior research (Lehmiller and Agnew, 2006) finding that partners within what they term “socially marginalized relationships”—such as age-gap, interracial, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:18 PM
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Lmao, why don't you publish research about how men are 60x worse than sex if you're so much smarter than those researchers? You know the forever single pump-n-dumped women bitching and moaning on FDS? They're the women who are obsessed with your withholding strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 07:15 PM
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you... relize that was men and women and gays and lesbains in that study....... the rate for orgasm in lesbian sex is 63%, for straight sex the women's orgasm rate is 7% No, where did you get that information? They had a separate study for men who orgasmed at 80%. There's no mention about lesbians, but they're a tiny percentage of the population. And they mentioned that one of the big reasons women don't orgasm is because they don't communicate with their partner. no, but trying to blame women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 10:11 AM
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And the flip side of that is that her withholding sex is a red flag. What is she trying to hide? A woman who has good qualities knows that a man will stick around even after sex because of her qualities. There's a good chance that she slept with men in the past, and later they discovered her bad qualities that drove them away. Now, either being unwilling or unable to improve herself, she decides that withholding sex is an additional tool to be used to secure commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:05 AM
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we dont always enjoy sex with people there attracted to, i mean only 7% of women orgams or cum during sex A study of 24,000 college students found that about 40 percent of women had an orgasm during their most recent casual encounter. https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20131112/women-sex-orgasm So no, it's definitely higher than 7%. Not to mention that sex doesn't require an orgasm to be enjoyable. If don't women enjoy sex, why are more and more women partaking in casual sex? And resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:09 AM
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Protect themselves from what? Having sex with someone they're attracted to? Last time I checked, woman are supposed to enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:36 PM
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Clearly most 40 year olds can probably easily manipulate a 10 year old or a 15 year old or a 20 year old or a 25 year old. What exactly would the guy say to the 25 ye old to manipulate her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:58 PM
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Then why mention relationships? Sex is not something you give after you've received a relationship. The hard truth is that having sex neither increases not decreases your chance of having a relationship. Your other qualities will determine that. Women who feel they need to withhold it do so because they likely lack those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:15 PM
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The whole purpose of this thread is whether or not dating gets easier for men relative to women as they age, and the research clearly shows it does, even to the point where men are rejecting younger women and lowering the average age gap in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:32 AM
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The whole purpose of this thread is whether or not dating gets easier for men relative to women as they age, and the research clearly shows it does, even to the point where men are rejecting younger women and lowering the average age gap in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:31 AM
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And of those age couples, how many of them have the woman being older? Take a look at this study here https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/sex-differences-in-human-mate-preferences-evolutionary-hypotheses-tested-in-37-cultures/0E112ACEB2E7BC877805E3AC11ABC889 In table 4, women report wanting a partner with a higher age gap moreso than men report wanting a partner with a lower gap. So it's even the case that women want to be with someone older but the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:10 AM
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And of those age couples, how many of them have the woman being older? Take a look at this study here https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/sex-differences-in-human-mate-preferences-evolutionary-hypotheses-tested-in-37-cultures/0E112ACEB2E7BC877805E3AC11ABC889 In table 4, women report wanting a partner with a higher age gap moreso than men report wanting a partner with a lower gap. So it's even the case that women want to be with someone older but the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:48 PM
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We don't care whatever men will stop raping thanks to prostituees. We don't want to throw other women under the bus for our own benefits. We care about other women and want them to be safe LoL, you don't see how stupid your argument is? The point is if you want less women to be raped, you should be pushing for more prostitution and porn, not less
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:57 PM
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LoL sure it does https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326955512_Why_Is_Age_So_Important_in_Human_Mating_Evolved_Age_Preferences_and_Their_Influences_on_Multiple_Mating_Behaviors https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1689672/pdf/10081164.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:50 PM
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Research says otherwise. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326955512_Why_Is_Age_So_Important_in_Human_Mating_Evolved_Age_Preferences_and_Their_Influences_on_Multiple_Mating_Behaviors https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1689672/pdf/10081164.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:48 PM
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Research says otherwise: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326955512_Why_Is_Age_So_Important_in_Human_Mating_Evolved_Age_Preferences_and_Their_Influences_on_Multiple_Mating_Behaviors https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1689672/pdf/10081164.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:47 PM
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Ok, let's see what women have to say when asked. https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8dnbgy/q4w_ladies_why_do_you_make_some_guys_wait_for_sex/ Some responses: Because I didn't want do date them, I just wanted to fuck them. Why wait to fuck someone if that's all you want to do. So with women knowing that, women should only give into temptation with men she doesn’t value as LTR prospects. If she’s going to go for the casual secks....Serious prospects / men you truly see devoting you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:54 AM
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No, you seem quite ignorant of FDS doctrine. They're not suggesting to do that just to "get back" at the man. If that were true, FDS would be even more fcked up than I thought. But that's not what they're saying. Here's the infamous post from the FDS moderator. Only a foolish woman would actually tell the guy she’s dating that she’s also fucking someone else, while she’s delaying sex with him. That would be a dumb strategy move. Male insecurity cannot handle that. And here's her justification: W…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 09:58 AM
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Women who don’t have sex outside of commitment withhold because they’re looking for men on the same page. They’re not into casual sex. They want a relationship and are trying to weed out men to find ones that have the same view. No, they select certain men to give sex to right away and certain men to withhold it from. Some women here have been pretty open about this. In FDS, they even recommend finding a guy to have some side action with so that they can control their own urges while they make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 12:15 AM
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No, that just defies all common sense. You're telling me a man would rather not have sex at all than have sex repeatedly because he doesn't want to learn to please his partner? Men complain that they have to spend money wining and dining a woman, jump through hoops, become a dancing monkey, a performer etc just for the possibility of having sex once. All that is way more work than "getting to know a woman's body". I think you're in denial. Women don't withhold sex because they think a guy isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 05:10 PM
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Sorry, but that's BS. With so many average men complaining about how hard it is just to get a date, you're telling me they wouldn't jump at the opportunity to have casual sex repeatedly with the same woman with the only caveat of having to learn her body so that they can have better sex? Ya, that might apply to Chad but sounds like bs when talking about most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:45 PM
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This subreddit does not reflect reality, and even so, the average men here and in the real world are bitter about sluts who sleep with Chad, but not with them.. These men,, who often go sexless, would be plenty accepting if the slutting was evenly distributed. There was a thread asking men if they cared about women not putting out quickly, and most said they wouldn't like if the woman put out for other men but not for them. The problem is the inconsistency. Women couldn't give a shit about other…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:35 PM
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Well that's the answer in terms of what men have to offer. Do you really think most guys don't care about getting off their partner? It's a big ego trip for a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:15 PM
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So if they become FWBs and he learns to satisfy her, then it's good? Plenty of men would be happy with this situation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:05 PM
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Women slutshame more than men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 03:01 PM
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If I'm dating a woman, she should be attracted to me. If she isn't, then she shouldn't be dating me. So then, she gets to have sex with someone she's attracted to. How is this a bad deal for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:57 PM
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This was about porn's effect on men. Men approach women (and in rare cases, commit rape) because of their sexual urges. Porn provides an easy outlet to men for these urges. More porn->less approaching, and less rape. It's not rocket science. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:47 PM
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Right that's why their birth rate is plummeting and large amounts of men and women report going sexless. And women even pay for professional "dates" www.scoopwhoop.com/amp/Inside-Japans-Host-Clubs-Where-Women-Go-To-Have-Their-Desires-Satisfied-Be-Pampered/ Go to Japan yourself and see how often you get approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 09:54 AM
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Myopic sort of opinion. If men see women depicted in porn and have pickmes catering to their demands their treatment of other women plummets accordingly. Yep, instead of being treated like "kweens" to get sex as a reward, they'll be treated more like normal people. That's basically what OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 02:28 AM
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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ab.20413 right, totally a "male-perpetuated myth"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:58 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault As evidence mounted that if anything, porn helps prevent sexual assault, porn critics changed their tune. Instead of blaming X-media for harming women, they claimed it harms men by confining them in a dark prison of masturbatory isolation that destroys their interpersonal relationships with others. haha, this guy was right on the money
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:34 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault Save the emotional arguments for TwoXChromosomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:24 AM
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Lmao I can see your point about prostitution, but porn does not diminish the attention we get at all. BS, men were approaching a lot more before they had access to instant gratification through porn (online dating is also another factor). Porn is also fairly normalized in Japan, and men there don't give much attention to women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:21 AM
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The funny thing is that women who think like you are often the same women who claim that N-count shouldn't matter. If you really were concerned about "power imbalance", you should equally if not more so condemn and be grossed out about high-N count women being in relationships with low-N count men. Unlike age, which really isn't a strong indicator of one's life experience interacting with the opposite sex, a women having multiple past relationships gives her far more potential "power" to maniupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 01:12 AM
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Reality is that shootings and killings have been happening long before the internet was even a thing. It's no different than saying that video games and movies make people kill. If you don't think political correctness contributes to some subs getting banned and others not, explain why TRP is quarantined.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 04:14 AM
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Men are the relationship gatekeepers. Many women end up in FDS because they got repeatedly pump-n-dumped (kept out of a relationship). FDS will make fun of any man that rejects them just like how incels make fun of women who reject them. Incels will call these women sluts/whores that they didn't want anyway and FDS will call these men LVM/scrotes that they didn't want anyway. Neither is willing to look inward to realize there might be something wrong with them that's causing them to get repeated…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 02:22 AM
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I do think they would still wait, or more likely they would jump into a committed relationship sooner and with someone who isn’t quite right just because of the added pressure to do so because it’s the only way they’re having sex. And probably the same would be true for women, or for some women who have a high sex drive. Ok, then we agree that if women did "the right thing" , your strategy of making the guy wait a long time would no longer work. I didn’t make things the way they are though, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:37 PM
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You haven't addressed how your arrangement would work if women stopped giving sex in search of commitment. Let's say that happened and the man you're making wait can no longer have sex on the side. Do you think he would still wait? What would he think about you getting all the sex you want during this time? You admit that you have high sex drive and need sex to get by during the waiting period, but somehow you think this would apply less to men? If you at least wanted to be consistent, you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:14 PM
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anyways, this is a hypothetical situation, what's the relevancy here? i mean imo, in reality, if a man is dating a woman but not having sex with her and they agreed to be exclusive for a number of reasons (she's a virgin or has a low n-count/does it only within the context of LTRs and does not feel ready, they both are religious and/or agreed to wait until marriage, similar agreements), if he's having sex with other women he's probably not staying to wait for her, she's probably going to find ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 11:03 AM
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No, he's waiting for one woman while stringing along others for sex. We agree he has sex on the side. So where is this guy, with all his great relationship qualities, getting sex from? By stringing along other women and making them think they have a chance at a relationship with him. Basically, the main people hurt in this waiting arrangement are women. Which is ironic considering it's supposed to be advice to help improve the dating lives of women. If you don't support this system, that's fine,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 02:12 AM
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You do realize that her "strategy" leads to more guys using women for sex? The only way her HVM is going to wait for her is if has other women on the side. And the way he gets those women to sleep with him is to string them along. It's incredibly ironic that this strategy creates more of the kind of guy FDS purportedly hates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:55 AM
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Except TRP is quarantined when FDS isn't. And FDS is worse than TRP. At least TRP teaches men to be the kind of guy women want. FDS doesn't teach women to be the kind of woman men want. Instead, it just blames men for womens' lack of success. That's why it's the female version of incels
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 12:12 AM
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If they didn't, your whole strategy falls apart. The only reason it works is because while you and your potential partner are "vetting" each other, you both can have all your sexual needs satisfied. No HVM is going to tolerate going sexless for months while you "vet" him, especially not while you have all the NSA sex you want. Not to mention he might not get sex at all if you decide he's not good enough after all. Whether you want to admit it or not, the only way your system works is if a good n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:38 PM
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Ya, a tiny minority of incels kill people. And we don't know that they even read any incel content. People hate incels. (and TRP to an extent) because they make misogynistic comments. FDS is the exact same but for women. It deserves every ridicule it gets. The reason it doesn't get more hate is because it's more politically correct to call out misogyny than its opposite.i
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 11:32 PM
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Also most guys would be sleeping around also during this time, so you’re not even doing anything they’re not doing. Not going to delve into other problems in your post right now but you do realize the many of the other women he's sleeping around with likely wanted a committed relationship from him as well? Do you see the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 09:05 PM
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Same reason people dislike and make fun of incels
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 08:39 PM
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no gold to dig if it's a ONS
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 06:49 PM
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Are you saying if any of these guys went into a bar asking for a ONS, they would find no takers?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/21 04:29 PM
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Some women are able to keep the wall back for a long time, doesn't matter statistically. Older women are free to pursue younger men. You won't hear men complaining about this. They certainly wouldn't abuse terms like harassment, power imbalance etc. They wouldn't be like the idiot OP asking questions like "how dare men think that younger women might be interested in them!?". They used to place zero (or very little) emphasis on looks since marriages used to not be based in attraction. Women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 06:30 AM
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How would this shift not affect womens' behavior? Instead of relying on a man to support them, they can pick someone they are attracted to. Except they don't. Well-off women don't place more emphasis on "good looks". Both men and women care about age, but women also care a lot about resources. A man can make up for age if he has status and resources. Women do not have the ability to do this with men. Not all men have status and resources so of course not all of them can date significantly younge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:21 AM
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Yet the less she picks or is coerced into choosing someone twice her age to survive. Women used to not select for sexual attraction at all and now it is part of the equation in how they select someone. That is why they tend to prefer slightly older or same age men instead of wanting 10+ year old men. You are arguing for the social role/structural powerlessness hypothesis and the study clearly states that you are wrong. You just won't admit it. This is classic feminist propaganda, that traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 04:37 AM
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It's quite clear that when women don't have to choose a partner for purely practical purposes the average age gap goes down. Your shining example of the Netherlands shows an age gap similar to other western countries and even if it didn't, there can be outliers. https://bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/2438/16932/3/FullText.pdf Buss (1989b) provided a more systematic set of tests of the social role theory explanation. In one test, he identified women who were financially successful, as measured by th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 01:31 AM
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And yet you responded to my post where I was talking about who women pick for marriage and sexual relationships. You said women only dated older men because they were forced to. This is blatantly wrong. Women select for resources even when they're given the exact same opportunities as men. The Wall exists in egalitarian societies. said men in their early 20s rated women 1-2 years older more attractive unit they crossed over into their mid 20s. It is in the study I sent you. Here it is- "Men on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 11:56 PM
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The Wall is the main topic here. The OP and similar women around always make posts like these because they're butthurt when people correctly claim that dating becomes easier for men and harder for women with age. I don't get why you keep bringing up marriage because it's not the relevant topic here. I'm not here to tell people who they should marry or how to keep their marriage alive. And I've said numerous times already, just because men can marry younger doesn't mean they will. Just like how w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 09:30 PM
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Let's be clear what The Wall is about. We are talking about the pool of available partners that a man or woman can potentially date. Who they end up choosing to marry is up to them. Just because you can marry older or younger doesn't mean you have to. As all the research indicates, if a woman wants the best chance of landing the highest quality partner, she should settle in her 20's because her dating pool will be the largest. At that time, she can date men her own age and above. How high she is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 11:13 AM
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The study you quoted said most women in western countries want a smaller age gap. There can be exceptions to a statistical rule. Also you said Dutch women stated a maximum preference of 5-10 years older. Yes and that's what this whole discussion has been about. Are younger women open to dating older men? A maximum of 10 years is huge in terms of skewing the dating marketplace. I've already given you examples of countries with high-gender equality where women still prefer older men. Explain why D…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/20 06:25 AM
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That is true but this just seems like wishful thinking that the correlation is at least not partly caused by female choice. If men could control female sexuality like in the past, the age gap would go back to what it once was. Which was much more in line with mens' preferences. Then explain why in this study by the same authors, Dutch women stated a preference of 5-10 years old, higher than most other countries. The Netherlands has consistently rated among the highest of countries in terms of ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:59 PM
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He may have gotten the specifics wrong, but the gist is correct in that TRP teaches men to be more selfish. Most women know this too but like to create strawmen. The real reason they don't like TRP is because it teaches men to be more selfish, therefore making dating more difficult for women, especially those who are less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 10:26 PM
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A correlation is just a correlation. There could be numerous reasons why African countries have higher gaps, e.g. the practice of polygamy. What you're suggesting is just what wikipedia says. The study itself concludes that women prefer older men. Other interesting data from that study shows gender-equal countries like Norway and West Germany having women that prefer a larger age gap than most other European countries. They also don't show a large priority placed on looks for women in the west. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 12:00 AM
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The average age gap goes down as gender equality increases. I don't think it is because young women find men 10 years older "creepy", it's just that they don't need to select for a man's money and have more choice to choose someone they are attracted to. Not true. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b07xbj/what_science_has_to_say_about_changes_in_the_smp/eif6ae4/ Subsequent studies have continued to fail to find support for social role theory of sex differences in mating strategie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:42 PM
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Then OP is misunderstanding TRP. But he is correct in saying that many women believe TRP is about faking committment
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 10:56 AM
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True, women do make false accusations to get back at men who they think wronged them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:53 PM
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Where does TRP tell you to fake commitment? You know TRP tells you not to give off provider vibes for a reason, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:50 PM
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You know TRP advocates for the latter right? If a guy wants to do the former, he'd be better off staying beta instead of going for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 10:40 PM
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We're not talking about no sex at all. Even if that was the case, some people want relationships but no sex. Then, they can find an asexual community
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 09:25 AM
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Attractive women complaining about being approached is like a rich person complaining to a poor person about how much it sucks to be approached for money or business deals. Entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:58 AM
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My personal standards are irrelevant. People can choose to have whatever standards they want. For some people like you, sex is a big deal. For others, having bad sex is like eating at a restaurant and the food ends up tasting bad. If a person doesn't know how how to say "no" she isn't mature enough to engage in sexual activity or even dating for that matter. People need to be held responsible for their actions. You can't commit a crime and avoid responsibility by saying your friends "begged" you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:50 AM
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The law defines rape. If you didn't break the law you didn't rape. You clearly have your own definition of acceptable sex separate from the law. That's fine but don't try to force your values on others. People can have unenthusiastic sex for all kinds of reasons. To keep their partner happy, to maintain the relationship etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:58 PM
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Then go to the police. The law is the law not what you want it to be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:43 PM
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If there's consent enthusiastic or not, then there's no rape period
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:34 PM
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I'm not "for" anything. People are allowed to have any kind of sex they want, from great sex all the way down to crappy sex. People are free to have "unenthusiastic" sex. For some, it's not a big deal. Rape has nothing to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:26 PM
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If you consented after being asked 10 times, you still consented. If you don't think people should ask for sex 10 times, that's fine, but it's your own personal belief
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:30 PM
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If there was no physical threat and you consented, then you consented. This is about the law, not your personal morals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:13 PM
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If you don’t seek clear consent and your fine being pushy or begging or other coercion tactics... you can very much end up raping someone. If you had sex with someone because he "begged", you weren't raped. Stop distorting words and take some responsibility. in a world where many more people now believe women. And you're showing why they shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:43 PM
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Same could be said about feminists here always harping about how men never do chores, how rejecting a guy can get her killed, how women don't get hired for certain obs etc. Ya, maybe where you come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 09:31 AM
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They could've been taken already and didn't want to escalate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:18 PM
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You're forgetting there's a wide movement telling men it's wrong to approach. So unless men are 100% sure, they don't take the risk. Not saying they should care, but they do. You're also forgetting that for a lot of women these days, they might not be autistic (or who knows, maybe they are), but still socially underdeveloped enough that their knowledge of "flirting" is limited to sending emojis through text.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 05:03 PM
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That's literally why FDS exists. Yes, so they don't have options for what they're looking for. There are women who exist who multiple men want to pursue for a relationship. FDS women are not among them. Huh? They go to FDS because they can't filter out the men who only want commitment—they get lots of men who lie or are mistaken about what they want and then turn to FDS as a result. That's what they tell themselves. In reality, the man gave them a chance and decided "no thanks" If Jim would comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:11 PM
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And that guy is still a "loser" if he commits to a different woman? incel/FDS: "I didn't like him/her anyways!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 01:36 PM
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Which goes right back to incel talk. "People who reject me are losers."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 01:14 PM
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We are talking about Female Dating Strategy. Who are they trying to date if not men? Where are the recommended improvements to make men want to commit to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:32 PM
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I don't see much in there about becoming the kind of woman men want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 11:25 AM
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Nah that's a mistake. The problem is they have too many men of different types pursuing them at once. Their filters are overwhelmed. Men differ quite a bit in sexual strategies across the gamut of "quality," so just because a high power lawyer is very keen doesn't mean he's keen for a relationship, even if she's fitness-model/lawyer/CEO of a non-profilt. That sounds like a lot of delusional coping. Right, the sub filled with bitter women who say all these nasty things about men do so because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 09:50 AM
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Their working assumption is that they already have what men want And that's exactly its flaw which I'm referring to. If they had what men wanted, they would be in relationships and wouldn't need FDS. They assume they're not in relationships because "men are bad". That's why it absolves women of any responsibility and is different from TRP. The premise of TRP is the opposite, that the men who need it don't have what women want. It puts some responsibility on men to improve themselves. Even your e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 06:51 AM
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And what did they suggest to improve? Looks? Because that's a very minimum thing and if FDS was self-aware enough, they would know that's not enough for a relationship. TRP teaches men to give women what they want. FDS does not teach women to give men what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 06:02 AM
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why should they select for a son? all it means is that if a woman wants to settle down, her best chance is in her 20's. If she doesn't care about any of that, then it doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 05:17 AM
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Honestly if men truly believe that women are all over the hill by 25 and men never age out of attracting 20 year olds then they should select for sons. Hard cutoffs are always an exaggeration. It's more accurate to say that mens' value as a partner peaks later than womens'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:22 AM
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Depends what you mean by "stuck". Just because men can marry younger doesn't mean they will. There's still factors like maturity and readiness to start a family etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 04:02 AM
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Yes, this is consistent with other research. Men still want to have sex with older women, they just don't view them as ideal relationship partners
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:53 AM
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lmao, your example basically proves my point. If my friends invited me to go to the beach and I said no because of the fear of sharks, they would rightfully think I'm a weirdo. Of all the things to fear in life, shark attacks should be at the bottom of the list. You have much higher chance of getting hit by a car. And you should be careful going down the path of stereotyping people based on traits they can't control because at minimum it makes you sound like a bigot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:43 AM
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How many women are killed each year in developed countries for "turning a guy down"? Get outta here with that insane paranoia
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:34 AM
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The difference between TRP and FDS is that FDS doesn't teach women to improve themselves, only to blame men for their problems. FDS is more akin to incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:31 AM
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Lying is this. But also gaslighting, mental abuse, trying to damage someones self-esteem to make them act in certain way... Same stuff that FDS does.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:29 AM
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women don't want to approach and consider approaching to be a threat? what entitled jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:26 AM
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science says otherwise https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b07xbj/what_science_has_to_say_about_changes_in_the_smp/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:23 AM
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Great, another "wall isn't real post". This has already been discussed here numerous times and proven with studies: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b07xbj/what_science_has_to_say_about_changes_in_the_smp/ Men never have relied heaviiy on looks to get relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 03:22 AM
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The existence of FDS suggests otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 07:52 AM
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Not irrelevant. I don't know where you live but in the US (and some other Anglo countries), but being sexual is not encouraged. At best, there are mixed messages. There's all kinds of censorship when it comes to sex (but not violence) in the media not found in other countries. Look at the Janet Jackson superbowl scandal. Something like that happening in other countries wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. PDA is also taboo. Disney ingrains in girls that they're pure princesses that need to hold out f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 07:23 AM
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lol disney films do not encourage girls to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 05:38 AM
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Sounds like an excuse for those who fear rejection. If you have good self-esteem, you can handle rejection fine (which women are much worse at than men)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 05:46 AM
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The point is, when people look at a picture of Elliot Rodgers, they're thinking this is not a bad starting point to work with at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 12:23 AM
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And what's the point of taking such an extreme unrealistic example? And if things "go wrong", why can't she kill him? Also, since the vast majority of violent crime is committed by younger men, a woman should date older men if she wants to feel safer. So, another win for older men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 12:05 AM
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If those guys are getting then its because they are attractive not less attractive. I meant they are born less attractive but put in the effort to improve
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 12:00 AM
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wtf are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:31 PM
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Then how is she being used? A woman who is sexually attracted to a guy and wants to have sex with him is being used if they have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:30 PM
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Or who looksmaxed by hitting the gym, being fashionable etc. I have no idea why people feel sorry for Elliot Rodgers. The guy wasn't short, wasn't particularly fat or skinny, or had any deformities. He could have hit the gym and automatically looked better. There are guys who are 5'6'' who are genuinely struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:29 PM
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Where do people keep getting the idea that TRP advocates lying to get sex? The whole point of TRP is to become attractive enough that women will want to have sex just for sex. If a guy wants to lie, why would he need TRP? He can just continue being a beta and lying to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:32 PM
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He wasn't a knockout, but i've seen plenty of less attractive guys get decent looking girlfriends. Guys like him are an insult to other guys who actually have real shortcomings that affect their dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 01:24 PM
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Until men and women are seen through an equivalent lens in issues pertaining to sexuality, child rearing, home management If you won't treat dating through an equivalent lens, then you better fulfill your end of the bargain on child rearing, home management etc
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:54 AM
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Or it's because they like this so-called "patriarchy" because they benefit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:41 AM
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Nobody is suggesting women shouldn't pursue education/careers. The problem is many women think having these things make up for their other unfeminine/unattractive traits. For example, as an extreme case, being bitchy might help you rise up the career ladder, but isn't going to make you attractive for a relationship. If a woman has feminine relationship qualities, then them being successful is a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 01:39 AM
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Another type of power gap is a social one. Social influence can create a power gap. This is much trickier to identify, but I know of at least one case in my own experience where someone was able to socially ostracize someone else after being turned down for sex and have it stick among their friends. Who were also mostly co-workers, so it became a rather uncomfortable scene. Sounds like someone trying to dodge responsibility. If you feel like you have to have sex because you'd be shamed for turni…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:48 PM
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Yes. In fact, that's why they often say that in sugar-daddy relationships, it's often the woman who has the power and is potentially being manipulative. It's a young, attractive woman taking advantage of a lonely older man. Think of it this way. Let's say we have a 23-year-old woman. Who could manipulate her much easier, a 30-year-old man with limited dating/relationship experience, or a 23-year-old player who's had multiple relationships in the past? Having life experience isn't as important as…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:40 PM
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Macron as an adult consensually chose to be with his wife. He is also the most powerful person in France, so obviously, she didn't hinder his progress. So what exactly is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:32 PM
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It pretty much does. For one thing, sexual experience still means lots of interaction with the opposite sex and lots of experience with seduction. It's also highly unlikely someone with high-n-count had nothing but a string of ONSs. Most likely, they've been in multiple relationships with varying levels of seriousness. So if you want to talk about so-called power imbalance, a high-n-count women has a lot of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:29 PM
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Because a lot of them clearly do involve abuse of power, and people who abuse power are risks to us all. Based on what? That's a claim based on your own prejudice. If a 40 year old is dating a 21 year old, the 40 year old's boss might decide to keep a closer eye on their behavior in positions of power that are easily abused. Their best friend might think twice about letting them get too cosy around young family members. A school principal who knows about the relationship might elect not to hire …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:27 PM
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It's not a legal issue if both are adults. But yes, people should mind their own business when it comes to others' relationships, regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 08:21 PM
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By your logic, only people with similar levels of relationship experience should date each other (which includes n-count).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:16 AM
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more sensible to assume abuse of power is happening than to assume it isn't. why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:14 AM
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Why is it a problem if it worked out for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:11 AM
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If it's easier to manipulate someone if you have more relationship experience than them, then by that logic, it's right for men to avoid relationships with high-N-count women, because those women can more easily manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:08 AM
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It's easier to manipulate someone if you have more relationship experience than them. By that logic, it's right for men to avoid relationships with high-N-count women, because those women can more easily manipulate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 05:05 AM
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You realise that people in the real world don't buy into internet pseudoscience created by desperate, lonely, men right? If you want to talk about the "real world", the concept of "the wall" has been around long before the internet was invented. Why do you think mothers always pushed for their daughters to marry young? Honestly, in most places, it's still common knowledge, It's only the "yass queen" mentality invented by femcels that have convinced some desperate women otherwise. Where is this '…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 03:57 AM
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The wall is about womens' market value peaking earlier than men's. Research shows that men have the easiest time dating between 30-40 because at this time, their pool is the largest. They can date woman their age or younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:42 PM
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The wall for women is backed by science and has already been discussed here: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b07xbj/what_science_has_to_say_about_changes_in_the_smp/eif6ae4/ I'm tired of people not using the search function, having nothing new to add but useless anecdotes, and seeing the same pointless denials from women. Coping indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 02:17 PM
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And this is why people don't "believe women"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 03:15 AM
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A man can get rejected a hundred times but still think he's da man when he gets some validation from a female. That's not narcissism. It's just being rational
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 06:28 AM
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That is what they're doing, "still at the stage of blaming men for their problems". If every man she meets ends up being low-value, it probably says something more about her own value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/20 10:41 PM
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What about the women who are in good relationships? Lol not all women are FDS women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:36 PM
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I never said casual sex is bad for women. That's what you said. We are talking about two systems here. The old system that you describe where most people date exclusively and only have sex in LTRs, and the new system of the past few decades where there's more casual sex, and men and women go through many partners before settling with one person (if they ever even end up settling down). I have no opinion on which system is better, I'm just explaining how things are. You clearly think the second s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:55 AM
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Sexual element is not necessary sex. It can be holding hands, kissing, sexual tension. You can't have sexual tension without the desire to have sex with each other. So yes, all men do want sex. If you and your man value other more important things in each other such as companionship etc, then it shouldn't matter whether you have sex on the 1st date or the 10th. If the time you have sex is a big factor on whether or not you two have a successful relationship, then it's a shallow relationship. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:14 PM
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physically incapable of declining participation in, or communicating unwillingess to engage in, the sexual act at issue Yes, if a person can't even stand up, have no idea of what's going on, or is unconcious, then she can't consent. But there is a lot of room for intoxication before reaching that point. I guess there are far less chances that a guy who isn't capable of declining participation will put his dick into someone else, that vice versa. But this part should be worked on more. There are …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:52 AM
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Romantic relationships by definition require a sexual element, otherwise they would just be friends. A guy can have companionship with a male friend, but unless they're both gay, it's by definition not a romantic relationship. Your man was sexually attracted to you, wanted sex from you, and expected it down the line. If you had told him you were never going to have sex with him, you think he would have married you? Your views seem divorced from the reality of western sexually liberated societies…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:33 AM
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Planned Parenthood has no authority here. This whole topic began because of your claim: Being lied to or being promised things that weren’t true to trick you into having sex Most people would interpret that as a man "tricked" a woman into having sex by "promising" committment and reneging on it. If that's not what you're referring to, I suggest you change that statement and be more specific. Because neither you nor anyone else have come close to showing how that violates consent. The woman conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:35 AM
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But yes, technically according to the law in most countries, you're not legally able to consent while intoxicated because you're "not of sound mind." This is BS. In no countries does being drunk mean you can't consent to sex. It's only if it reaches the point where you're barely able to stand and have no idea what's going on or you're literally unconcious. And here's another question. If we were to follow that silly line of thinking, and two drunk people had sex, who raped who?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:47 AM
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First of all, copypasting is a lazy form of debating, and I hope you're not going to resort to this moving forward because it doesn't reflect well on your "movement". I also want to make it clear to anyone reading this that the copy-pasted text is not how sexual consent is defined under the law and doesn't even reflect the average person's beliefs about sexual consent. It doesn't even say who came up with these definitions. With that out of the way, I'll play along just for fun. Freely given. Co…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:28 AM
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Ya, the title of this thread is "dating game theory advice for women", and it's literally what everyone else is talking about. Even if you are trying to get over some trauma, there's probably more legit places to do it than a sub full of bitter single women who spend half their time trying to justify why men should always pay for dates lmao. If anything, they're encouraging the sugar-daddy dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:34 AM
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What the hell does any of this have to do with FDS? FDS is full of women who keep getting pump-n-dumped, so they try to come up with manipulative tactics to secure a man's committment. There's nothing abusive about it, unless you somewhow think that men owe women committment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:59 AM
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Not a bad thing to emulate, but it's pretty clear from the scene that she was already attracted to him from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:56 PM
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First of all, there is no romantic relationship without sex, period. Companionship, sex, and other things are all part of the package, If there is no sexual component, there cannot (and should not) be a romantic relationship. Men value companionship and sex, not just one or the other. I know players who "gave in" and settled down once they found the right woman. Now, if a woman isn't interested in having sex with a man, then by dating him (or pretending to be friends, whatever you call it), she …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:41 PM
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The original poster said FDS advice is the same advice her parents gave them. In terms of finding a "good man", this advice is good...in the past when women weren't giving up for guys simply because they found them hot. Nowaways, you have plenty of "good men" even high-value men, who are willing to have a relationship, but don't want to be the second guy. So good luck getting these guys by withholding sex. This is why FDS is so full of bitter women whining about how almost every guy is low-value…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:22 PM
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Right, women should look out for themselves, but when men do the same, it's a "manipulative tactic". For a while, men were doing exactly what you stated in your paragraph, and women took advantage of them for it. Now, when men are starting to wise up, you have all these women with surprised pikachu faces. I can take exactly what you wrote and make a version for men: "That's typical women manipulative tactic. Basically "spend time and resources on me and I'll decide if you're good enough for sex"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:49 PM
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And women weren't listening to their parents advice anyway. Why should they when they can sleep around with attractive guys before eventually finding some guy to "settle" down with. Only problem is men started waking up to this and decided they didn't want to be the second guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:40 PM
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Right, guys are the ones having trouble understanding consent when you have to resort to mental gymnastics to distort the meanings of words. It's like me saying lying is the same as stealing because lying is the act of taking away the truth rightfully owed to someone. Sure, you can link any words you want if you do the right mental gymnastics. Why twist the meaning of a word that already has connotations associated with it in popular speech, if not to accomplish some kind of agenda? Here's the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:34 PM
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Only naive women believe men don't want relationships. The truth is the vast majority of men are always open to a relationship. Every human being likes companionship and sharing their lives with others. If a man can have a beneficial relationship that makes his life better and get great sex (not to mention consistent sex), why would he turn that down? The difference between men and women is that men are more than willing to settle for casual sex if he can't find that great relationship. The wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:16 AM
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The Oxford dictionary defines coercion as "​the action of making somebody do something that they do not want to do, using force or threatening to use force". If you really want to do mental gymnastics to the point of redefining and linking words that have virtually nothing to do with each other, go ahead. Just don't be surprised if no one takes you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 11:05 AM
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Being lied to or being promised things that weren’t true to trick you into having sex Thinking critically, even this falling under "coercion" is nonsense. A better term might be "deception".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:17 AM
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Nope, if a woman is adding something to a man's life (besides sex), he'll stick around. Women get pump-n-dumped because they have no relationship qualities to offer, not because of how soon they had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:00 AM
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Something tells me they weren't teaching you to fuck alphas and bux betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:31 AM
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true, but there's no way he would recommend someone wait 6 months for sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:28 AM
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Threatening someone's safety is already covered under sexual assault laws, and there are laws against blackmail. In any case, both are far cries from an inconvenience like nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:09 PM
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Ok then, nagging for sex is roughly as bad as nagging someone to do the dishes. I can agree to that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:13 PM
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The difference is that with coercion there is at least some consent, even though it's often not willing or eager. Nagging isn't bad as long as it isn't men who are get nagged. There are tons of complaints about nagging female partners and surprisingly other men support these poor victims of female psychological abuse. I've never heard of men putting nagging in the same conversation as something as serious as sexual assault. It's like saying if a man does the dishes because the woman nagged him, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:35 PM
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Sexual contact without your consent is assault. Sexual coercion means feeling forced to have sexual contact with someone. This line suggests you're trying to imply something. It's somewhat okay to have sex just to please your partner although I don't fully agree with it, but some women do it not because they want to please, but because they "give in" and it's easier for them to have sex than to deal with the nagging. Sorry to say, but if all it takes is nagging to get you to do something, then d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:05 PM
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Yes, underdeveloped people. And no, it is not "close" to sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:54 PM
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It also seems that we discuss different things. I'm mostly talking about sex in LTRs, where a guy is nagging his partner to have sex, and you're talking about dating in general, when a woman keeps a guy waiting for sex. Then it's even less likely to be assault. People compromise and do things for their partners to make them happy all the time. Just because it involves sex doesn't make it "assault".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:53 PM
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I think the line is quite clear. One thing is going a massage and kissing your partner and another is nagging "let's have sex, common, babe, you'll like it". We're not talking about foreplay. We're talking about any kind of resistance a woman might put up because she enjoys playing hard-to-get, not wanting to seem like a slut, and making herself feel valued because the man has to "work" for her. Whether you or I like it or not, this is how many women are, and it's not going to change because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 11:12 AM
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There is also a difference between getting your partner into the right mood and just nagging them constantly. There is no clear line between the two. The best thing she can do is just leave. I think it's mostly for women to learn what is coercion and when their partners' actions aren't okay. Sure, people can learn about bad dating behaviors. But why the hell would this even be in the same sentence as sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:57 AM
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Glad some people still have common sense left
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:34 PM
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Being worn down by someone who repeatedly asks for sex Many women like this so... Being lied to or being promised things that weren’t true to trick you into having sex Having someone threaten to end a relationship Stupidest entitled BS I've ever heard. Not to mention it's impossible to prove, making it pointless. There was a thread earlier where someone asked why men hate modern feminists. This is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:33 PM
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Men should only have relationships with women who are sexually attracted to them. Doing so would solve many divorces, dead bedrooms, betabuxxing etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 07:18 AM
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She is saying "pay with commitment for sex" and "I don't think your genes are valuable enough to risk not getting security from you in exchange". Yep, and men need to avoid women who think this way about them at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 07:12 AM
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Right, as if there aren't enough nice guys and orbiters already
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:59 AM
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Doesn't change the fact that without sex, there's nothing there. All the compatibility in the world doesn't matter. It's like two guys who are 95% compatible will be best friends, but unless they're both gay and attracted to one another theres nothing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:57 AM
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But if you want a relationship, the fuck does it matter that it took a little longer to get to sex? Don't you want to get to know the person you are getting into a relationship with? You're basically proving the point of why women who give sex easily to other men shouldn't withhold sex from a man she wants a relationship with. If the man and woman are truly compatible in the non-sexual aspects of the relationship, it shouldn't matter whether she puts out on the first date or the fifth. The man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:48 AM
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The problem is that the woman is using sex as a tool to get committment from the guy. If she's willing to use it for this, who knows what else she'll use it for. If the woman is conservative about sex in general, it's not a problem because she's just following her nature, not using sex as a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:40 AM
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The problem is that the woman is using sex as a tool to get committment from the guy. If she's willing to use it for this, who knows what else she'll use it for. If the woman is conservative about sex in general, it's not a problem because she's just following her nature, not using sex as a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:40 AM
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Why are men not allowed to change their minds?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:35 AM
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Compatibility does not matter if there is no sex. Just be friends then, no point of having a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:31 AM
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Women aren't owed committment any more than men are owed sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:30 AM
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Tell that to the radfems who claim drunk sex is rape
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 12:59 AM
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Nobody said they didn't believe what happened to you. Stop trying to play the victim in everything. You're getting called damaged and ridiculed not because of what happened to you but how you choose to respond to it, by becoming a deranged man-hater, and assuming all women are like you. Nobody was upset about metoo taking down some powerful men who deserved it. It got ridiculed when it starting saying things like "believe all women". It got ridiculed when people used social media to do away with…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:57 AM
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Right, just because you say so. I should totally believe you because you're clearly not traumatized/biased. I'm being 100% honest when I say that if you're actually trying to get more people to care about sexual assault, you're doing a piss-poor job and simply confirming every stereotype about radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:56 PM
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It’s not a daranged view of men if literally almost every women goes through it Except they don't. That's why it's deranged. Just because you had bad experiences doesn't mean everyone else did. You as a man would know this to be true and chose to protect your daughter instead of telling her “oh no it’s not true, you can walk alone at night no one will rape you. You can stay alone with your uncle he won’t touch you” unless you do it to her first lol. Thanks for proving how deranged you really are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:43 PM
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Exactly why we shouldn't listen to you. You've been damaged by some traumatic experiences with some men, and you now have a deranged view of men. If you're so convinced of objective facts, then link the studies. You said you're muslim, ya? If I had some bad experiences with muslims, do I get to make generalizations about them as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 05:53 PM
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haha, you drank the feminist koolaid. Ya, that 1 in 4 study applies if you consider everything rape. Sorry, but no reasonable person is going to take you seriously if you really believe 1 out of every 4 women gets raped. And no, someone putting a hand on your shoulder or you having sex while drunk isn't rape lol. And here's what the woman responsible for that study had to say about female-on-male rape: "It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual interco…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:00 PM
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Actually, there are studies that show that the number of male and female victims are a lot closer than we think: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/1748355 Many cases of male victims go unreported because it's not socially acceptable for them to speak out about it The fact is, though, that rape is rare, and when it happens, it's often by a man a woman already knows well. Also, since you seem to believe in the biological determinism of males, I wonder if you're willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 09:44 PM
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Right, because women never rape. Or commit other heinous crimes. Are all those crimes "telling of women's nature"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 05:16 PM
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Don't be obtuse. Someone wearing a veil in any country, including a western one, simply isn't going to get much attention compared to someone wearing, say, revealing clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:22 AM
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You know being nurturing is a valuable skill to have, right? You can be nurturing to a friend or a family member. There are traits that most women find sexually attractive in a man just like there are traits that most men desire in a woman for relationship. A male incel could easily say 'I don't want to build muscle. That's prioritizing satisfying the female gaze! I don't want to improve my career. That's prioritizing providing for women! I don't want to learn to be confident and assertive. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:46 AM
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blah blah, women who can't take an approach are not "women", spare me the platitudes. Whether you like it or not, the men who are most successful at dating are the ones who don't give a shit if women like his approaches. I linked the thread to show that how you want men to be is not how are men are, and no one needs to change for you. I don't care if the few men you know in your life happen to be white knights. You would think that by coming here, you would get a wake-up call that there exists a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:07 AM
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You can keep repeating that crap all you like, it doesn't make it true. This is a common feminist tactic, that you want is what all women should want. That what you want is a "social norm". I could just as easily say men approaching women is a social norm. It's literally been happening thousands of years. There are ancient Roman poems about it. Go tell an Italian guy today how he's violating a "social norm" for telling a woman she's beautiful and see how he reacts. If it's such bad thing, you wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:02 AM
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So do men. If you’re a creep, I’m going to call you a creep. I don't care if some shitty, rude woman calls me or anyone else a creep. I'm not going to blame these terms on the patriarchy, I'll just assume I met a shitty woman. Answer me this. I have approached plenty of women. The majority are neutral about it, a decent amount like it, and a minority dislike it. Some of my best dates have come from approaching. I know some long-term couples who have met in places you would consider "inappropriat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 02:10 PM
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I don’t make generalisations about men. She (and you) generalize by suggesting that any man who approaches is a guy who can't take no for an answer or even a rapist. Most men think this is gross or cringeworthy. Oh really? www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/cuazu8/you_shouldnt_go_to_x_or_you_shouldnt_do_y_just_to/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 02:04 PM
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This just seems like a list of what you want in a woman. It’s designed to benefit you - not the woman. FDS is about women getting what they want, not men getting what they want. Haha, exactly the response I would expect from a feminist. Explain to me how any of those things listed are bad for a woman. I can take every thing you say and apply it to a male incel, like a nerd who sits at home playing video games all day and complains that no woman wants to sleep with him. When you tell him to chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:50 PM
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This whole debate is going in circles. Let's lay out some points. Cold approaching (not sexually overt) is not inherently rude or constitutes harassment. There are some women (not many) who dislike any form of cold approaching, believe it's rude, or even constitutes borderline harassment. These women believe because they "feel" wrong has been done to them, that wrong has in fact been done to them. Therefore, it's safe to say that any time someone "feels" wrong has been done, that alone does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 01:23 PM
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If a guy intentionally farts on the train and then smirks at me I'm going to tell him off. If you think that's entitled you've a major case of "too nice" that needs fixing. Ya, farting is a part of life. no one cares that much. And nice attempt to deflect into something physical, which is completely different. Someone trying to get your attention and causing a minor inconvenience would not count in any way. Furthermore, harassment is a crime, and includes intentional causes of "annoyance." "A pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:42 AM
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How you treat strangers is different than how you treat friends, family, or lovers. We restrain or act in according to feelings all the time based on context. Yes, and you are not entitled to strangers never causing you discomfort in any way. You absolutely can tell them to stop. I'll tell Jehovah's Witnesses to stop coming to my house to evangelize. Not angrily, but I tell them their behavior is unacceptable. The point is: there are (not always, but sometimes) valid times to tell someone their …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:31 AM
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The women on FDS are the ones who get pumped and dumped and can't find a man to commit to her. No one denies they can get sexual offers easily enough, as most women can, but relationships are another story. Their sole focus on "vetting" is exactly why FDS is pathetic. They take no responsibility. If a man didn't commit to her, it's obviously because the guy is "low-value" and because most men suck in general. It couldn't possibly be because she lacks relationship qualities that would make a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:15 AM
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Sure they do. Do you explode at your boss if he makes you angry? Or do you keep that behavior in check compared to when an inanimate object or event makes you angry? What kind of silly analogy is this? How you treat your boss is completely different from how you treat most other people. And water is wet. And the sky is blue. This isn't relevant to the discussion. It's the whole point of the discussion. I might not like being solicited by charities. I might not like people wearing X,Y, and Z in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:56 AM
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Nope, even the silent majority of women don't find it unacceptable. Most reasonable women can empathize with the male point-of-view and understand that's up to men to make the first move most of the time. Even here on PPD, the silent majority of women will speak up about it when asked. It's the loudmouth feminist minority here and on Twitter that screeches constantly about how terrible and traumatizing it is to be approached. There can be a cultural element too, if you look at how they do it in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:48 AM
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She is paranoid. There are studies that show that violence and sexual violence have declined in developed countries. Rape is rare and when it does happen, it's usually by a man that woman already knows well. She might be unluckier than the average person in her "encounters", but she has no right to paint people with a broad brush because of that. It's like if I had a few bad experiences with black people, do I get to make generalizations about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:32 AM
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Interesting, since you're telling them how to feel about entitlement and approaches. I am not telling them how to feel about approaches. I'm saying nobody needs to change their behavior because of their "feelings". The world doesn't revolve around their "feelings". Nobody is entitled to feel good 100% of the time. Right, so "look how the youth are all brainwashed by feminismTM" was a really silly argument to make. Also, unlike you, I didn't say they were "brainwashed," I set their opinion about …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:26 AM
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yes imagine bringing down the patriarchy as you do so
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:37 PM
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enjoy the cats
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:36 PM
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♀️👊 😿
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:32 PM
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r/TwoXChromosomes is that way ->
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:26 PM
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Still not answering the question eh? the mere existence of radfems strikes a nerve. they should just move to saudi arabia
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:24 PM
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Address the points or go to r/TwoXchromosomes if you don't like being challenged
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:23 PM
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I love how you can't win an argument so you resort to insults. Why don't you advocate banning charities if you hate being approached so much? You don't like being cold-approached. Many people don't mind it or like it. Answer why anyone should care what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:18 PM
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And I demonstrated why "social settings" have downsides and can also be inappropriate places. There is no "correct" place to meet people. It depends on your preferences and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 04:15 PM
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I've encountered people of all types who don't have social skills and don't leave, but I don't paint any of them with a broad brush and automatically assume others will do the same. Yes, I know that people in relationships have sex. I don't belive that this dude at this point thinks about loving me, but rather getting his dick wet. That sounds more like your biased preconceptions of men. This isn't the old days where you date for 6 months before having sex. People have one night stands, they "se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:37 PM
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I've encountered old women who don't leave. But I would never suggest that old women in general aren't allowed to engage me when I'm drinking coffee or doing whatever. Although I see the difference between an old lady looking for someone to talk to and a guy who most likely wants to use me (fuck me). As I suspected, you seem to have a problem with male sexuality. There's nothing wrong with him wanting to fuck you. It doesn't mean he doesn't also enjoy talking to you or see no other value in you.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:12 PM
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There's no difference between an old lady interrupting your coffee drinking to talk to you or some guy who's interested in you. If you don't want to talk to them, they should leave. But's it's perfectly fine if they thought beforehand that you might be down to have a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:00 PM
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Although still annoying, especially when I'm enjoying my coffee. There are plenty of women who are bored drinking their coffee and wouldn't mind having a conversation with someone new. Many coffee-shop owners these days complain that nobody talks to each other in coffee shops anymore, they just sit with their laptops/phones. This seems to be another point of disconnect. You don't seem to realize that many people enjoy having conversations with strangers, even if doesn't lead to a date. In the pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:43 PM
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Like I said, if others are rude to your first, then go ahead and be rude back to them. Simply approaching you isn't being rude. I'm all for teaching boys that it's ok to approach women and ways to do it without being rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:31 PM
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I don't disagree. It's definitely an issue of insecurities. But nobody should change their behavior because of other people's petty insecurities. Just like any man here complains he only is attractive to obese or deformed women. 99% of men have no problem with getting attention from unattractive women. The few that do aren't worth much
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:30 PM
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Why not? Interracial marriage was considered "wrong" by the majority until 1990. Seems like a very plausible explanation. Telling women how they're "supposed" to feel about something is a common feminist tactic. Just because people don't agree with your beliefs doesn't make them brainwashed. If a woman, regardless of age, doesn't feel bad, offended, harassed etc when she's approached, who's to tell her she should feel otherwise? Not to mention that older women no longer get much attention, so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:14 PM
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If they are rude to me, then what I do is what the earned. I wouldn't pretend that I'm interested and then block them, If they would leave me alone after first, short "no". It's their fault, they are they one who are being awful first. They pretty much deserve it. If they are rude to you first, I have no problem with you being rude back. If you are rude to them simply because they approached, I have no problem with them being rude back to you. But I will talk how awkward or rude it can be It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:08 PM
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Sorry but feminists don't get to be the "rude" police. You can call anybody you want a creep, but if you get called a whore or a slut in return, don't blame the patriarchy. You get what you give.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:06 PM
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At some point, one or both of you decided to start dating, so you went on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 02:04 PM
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That's not the only interpretation of the graph. An equally valid interpretation is that women today dislike it the same amount but are more willing to stand up and call it "harassment" than in the past. The questions were also asked of older women at the same time. I'm not going to buy into the argument that these older women are currently "brainwashed". Do you talk to many people who have lived in France? Most of my female friends who have visited/lived there will tell you it is still a very f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:12 PM
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Who mentioned patriarchy?. You think that I'm rude to them when they talk to me? No, I smile. And I'm nice. These men are the ones who don't know how to behave. Becasue when I say "no", they very often try to talk longer and convince me to give them a chance. So they are the ones deserving to be treated badly, not me. If you reject someone in a rude way, then be surprised if they're rude in return. It's not misogyny, rude people get in return what they dish out. What? I'm not trying to change an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:00 PM
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Did you look closely at the graph? It includes responses both for "always" and "usually" (which is an important distinction probably not worth lumping together). And only the US and France (really, France? Notoriously the flirtatious country in the world?) have an issue with being invited to drinks. I'm not saying the number is 0 or the economist's take on the study is inaccurate necessarily, but without access to the study and questions directly, I'm skeptical of the findings. Why should there …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:53 AM
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by meeting at an informal reunion of a small group of school friends There are good reasons why some people would think this is an inappropriate place to meet dates. If something happens between you two, it can create drama for the whole group/ split the group. Some people don't want their friends to know about who they're dating. Some people just want their hangouts to be clean without involving anything relating to dating or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:40 AM
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Just becasue you are ok with women saying simple "no" doesn't mean, that a big portion of mean doesn't try to push despite woman's refusal. Most men in developed countries don't. For the ones that do, that's why we need to teach boys it's perfectly ok to approach women, as long as they take no for an answer. But the women complaining won't agree to this because their real goal is to control men. And you don't know if they were neutral about it. They could've pretended. I used to be cute and nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:34 AM
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... Do I need to point out that 11-year-olds wear tight-fitting clothing? Or that fitness attire is tight fitting? I hope I do need to point that out and you just haven't been thinking about what you're actually arguing. Gym attire is an exception, not the common case. Look at the ubiquity of tight-fitting jeans, something actually common because it's casual wear. Child fashion is irrelevant and often follows adult fashion (not saying this is a good thing, in the extreme case, it can be highly i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:24 AM
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I have approached plenty of women. Most are neutral about it. A decent amount like it. A minority dislike it. I have gotten some of my best dates from it. Why should I or anyone stop because you personally don't like it? No, he just doesn't consider the fact, that I might not want tot be approached. And it's fine, I don't care about him either. There is absolutely no way for him to know if you want to be approached without approaching you first. Normal guys do it every time. From my experience m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:10 AM
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How did you meet on your last date then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:06 AM
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Most clothing that people wear to be attractive isn't sexual or made with the intent to draw sexual attention. Disagree. Tight fitting clothing isn't coincidentally fashionable. It's designed to show curves. I guess I need to repeat myself. .... Do you not know how to flirt without being overtly sexual right out of the gate? It's very easy to do. You're going off-topic again. I don't give a fuck about cold approaches so why do you think random comments about them are relevant? I think most appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:02 AM
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Nice strawman. You are free to accept or decline whatever you want. You're not entitled to being approached only when you want. But yes, hypocritical prudes. Women are sexually liberated and can be proactive about it, you go gurl! But men have to suppress their sexual thoughts! https://www.youtube.com/embed/9zYh7Yc8kuM
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:54 AM
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Why should anyone stop if not for morality? But generally, it’s better to do it in a more social setting and try to gauge interest. I've heard this argument plenty of times and it's basically another way of saying "only women are allowed to make the first move (giving signals etc)". It's a toxic mix of female prudishness and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:49 AM
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I don't care that the guy might not be an asshole, I'm not taking the risk anymore. He doesn't care about me, so I will not care about him. A guy approaching you doesn't indicate anything about whether he cares about you (unless you're on the phone or something similar) and certainly doesn't make him an asshole. Sure, it's fine to hit on a woman. And it's fine if a woman is irritated or pissed at the guyt becasue of that. It's fine if I pretend to be interested and then block him. He is not enti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:46 AM
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I meant if they choose to broadcast online, they will inevitably receive attention from all kinds of men. They're not entitled to only receive attention from "high-value men".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:39 AM
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No, feminists are the ones who like to speak for all women. I have approached women randomly and gotten dates, some of the best dates in fact. Why should I or anyone else stop just because you don't like it/ think it's immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:36 AM
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Men shouldn't change their behavior because of the bad actions of a few men. Even if the guy is nice, I still don't want to feel awkward. It's his choice and his risk when he talks to me. Absolutely. You're not entitled to not getting hit on and he's not entitled to get anything out of it. It seems the best solution here is to teach boys that it's perfectly ok to hit on women, but to take no for an answer. Hypocritical feminists will never agree to this though, because in reality, it's "I only w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:35 AM
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11-year-olds wear clothing all the time to "invite attention" (looking cool/cute, for example). It's just not of the sexual kind. Women who wear sexual clothing know they will invite sexual attention. I'm going to let you re-read my first sentence and see if you still want to stand by the logic you're presenting here. The logic is simple. There is nothing immoral about men approaching a women they're attracted to. No it isn't. The entire topic of this post is about women who are ostensibly invit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:32 AM
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You can choose to date or not date whoever you want. There are countless incidents every day of men approaching women and accept being turned down gracefully, and this far outnumbers the bad cases. You likely aren't as socially adept at this as you think. Nobody has to change their behavior to adjust to your paranoia (and yes, it sounds really paranoid)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:21 AM
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No you just really, really don't want to accept the fact that women aren't responsible for male behavior. You can keep saying this all you want, but I've already made it clear there's nothing wrong with this type of "behavior", so I don't really care who is responsible for it. If you're giving us attention because of the way we're dressed then why the fuck should we cater to you? You don't have to cater to anyone. Let's be clear. You are the one trying to get people to act a certain way, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:16 AM
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Many (probably the majority) women don't mind it. Some like it. Why should anyone cater to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:13 AM
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More buzzwords when you have no argument. Maybe just answer me this. If some women don't mind or like it but you don't, why should I or anyone else cater to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:07 AM
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Right, the nun and the half-naked woman are equally likely to get hit on. And before you suggest I'm telling women to dress like nuns, it's just to illustrate because some feminists evidently don't understand figurative speaking. It’s inappropriate to hit on a woman in the supermarket. That’s not what she is there for. She is trying to go about her day. And women who don’t want to be hit on at all give off the vibe that they aren’t looking for that shit. Learn to read the room, ffs. There is har…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:07 AM
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Possessing visible breasts and a female figure is enough to garner male attention. The more provocative you dress, the more likely you are to garner attention. Common sense. I don't like when people stop me to ask for the time. I don't like being solicited in public for charity. I don't like when people where X,Y,or Z in public. But guess what? It's a free country. That's the price you pay for living in one. People don't get to tell others what is moral. Your whole argument boils down to "I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:59 AM
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It's the belief in the entitlement that men can't be men (but not being disrespectful) because of some womens' "feels" and preferences. That men are wrong for being attracted to a woman (could be because of how she is dressed) and making a move. You don't like being hit on? Too bad. You can reduce the likelihood by dressing in different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:51 AM
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The topic is about men having sexual thoughts and approaching women who they find attractive, which in part could be due to what they wear. If you have a different interpretation, that's fine, but that is how the majority of people posting here are interpreting it as shown by the quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:45 AM
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Women who are developed don't mind men's advances and can turn them down gracefully. You can choose to date whoever you want, but you're not entitled to only be approached when and where you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:42 AM
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Some quotes from this thread: I don’t want anyone to approach me when I’m grocery shopping or whatever. I hate being approached, I never know how to act and it makes me feel uncomfortable. . I'm not going to be nice to people who don't care about me and interrupt me during my day. No matter how they look. I don't care that they think that I'm pretty. Doesn't matter, it is awkward. This is a popular sentiment that's commonly heard here and IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:36 AM
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If you do something that naturally invites attention, don't be surprised when you receive it. There's nothing immoral about it. Stay in church if it bothers you. The world doesn't revolve around your penis. If a woman doesn't like it, that's fine with me. I'm not trying to change anyone. Stop trying to force your prudeness and morality on others
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:35 AM
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Some quotes from this thread: I don’t want anyone to approach me when I’m grocery shopping or whatever. I hate being approached, I never know how to act and it makes me feel uncomfortable. . I'm not going to be nice to people who don't care about me and interrupt me during my day. No matter how they look. I don't care that they think that I'm pretty. Doesn't matter, it is awkward. This is a popular sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:32 AM
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And when women complain about this stuff? They’re talking about men using poor manners. Nope, plenty of examples in this very thread where women complain about simply being approached. Then there was that other thread about women "feeling disgusted" about being approached by men they find attractive, and how men should stop doing it. Also: if someone were to bring cookies into the workplace, it’s good manners to not ask for something that doesn’t belong to you, and wait until the person offers y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:29 AM
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Right but many times that's accidental/not the primary purpose of looking that way. They're not doing it to invite attention, so it isn't hypocritical to get pissed when little dumb-dumbs drool and yip like chihuahuas at them. They know what they're doing will invite attention. They're saying it shouldn't but that's like saying humans shouldn't be humans. .... Do you not know how to flirt without being overtly sexual right out of the gate? It's very easy to do. Agreed, but this thread is about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:24 AM
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Or are men really just mere beasts who lack the ability to control themselves? Again, missing the point. THey don't need to control themselves. There' s nothing wrong with what they're doing. If it makes you uncomfortable, that's your problem, and you can choose to find ways to reduce. The world does not revolve around your "feelz". When men start complaining about being objectified by women (highly acceptable by society), then you can talk. Equality, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:21 AM
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I'm not holding women responsible for anything. Men are behaving like normal human beings. They're not required to 100% withhold their sexuality any more than women are. https://www.youtube.com/embed/9zYh7Yc8kuM Men are not the ones complaining here about being normal human beings, women are
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:17 AM
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I really don't know how to explain this in more simple terms. Humans are sexual beings. THere's nothing immoral or unnatural about this. Men approach women they find attractive. If you want to be approached less often, you can dress in a way that's less attractive. Otherwise, accept that getting attention is a part of life. And nobody said anything about "staring intently up and down". This is a post about women receiving any kind of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:15 AM
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Way to miss the point. How do I make this simpler? If I know that doing X invokes a natural ammoral response from others and I don't like this response, then I should do less of X.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:10 AM
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Newflash: Humans are sexual beings. If you don't want less attention, don't do things to invite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 09:01 AM
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No, he wants to FUCK her-dating is the means to this end but let's not pretend you and most of the men on here would not happily skip the date and go straight to sex if the woman was up for it! Your deflection, cognitive dissonance and lack of empathy are typical. Why do I bother... So people can't be dating, having sex and also interested in the other person in non-sexual ways? People don't date to form relationships? All girls' boyfriends are not only with them for sex? Actually, considering y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:55 AM
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Correct, but don't be surprised that when you're rude to others, they might be rude back to you. Don't try to blame it on the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:52 AM
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Ive heard lots of women complain yes, but the women normally complaining are the women who aren’t actually going out and wearing slutty clothing. It’s always women defending other women. I have never in my life seen or heard the woman who’s wearing the slutty clothes doing the complaining. Modern fashion is directly tied to sexuality. So unless you're only hanging around women who don't care about fashion at all, they're likely guilty of it. And this is not a choice between someone who dresses l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:50 AM
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And FYI a woman has NO REAL INDICATION if a man is capable of rape or not until it happens. Just because you claim to be a nice guy does not remove the risk or fear-FYI most serial rapists are VERY CHARMING and unthreatening in appearance and behaviour-that is how they are so successful! That and targeting naive kind natured women who want to give all men the benefit of the doubt. However, I'd like toa dd that I never suggested a guy who approaches an attractive woman is going to rape her BUT he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:40 AM
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Anyone who's been around women long enough will have heard plenty of complaining about it. Just look at the comments from the women in this thread. And again I can say that I never stare at a man running without a shirt on, it’s extremely easy not to look. Here's the thing. No shirtless man is going to complain about some woman staring him. At worst, he might consider it a mild annoyance, but certainly wouldn't be crying about how how misandrist society is because of it.And let's not gloss over …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:31 AM
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Having things in common only matters for a long-term relationship. And it's ill defined. Being from the same city is having something in common. Also, you can talk to see if you have anything in common before setting up any date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:27 AM
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newsflash, rapists are gonna rape regardless of how women dress or how much you try to shame men's sexuality. Pretending that the guy who approaches an attractive woman is going to rape her is a joke. Repressing men's sexuality isn't going to reduce rape, it might even increase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:25 AM
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There are plenty of women who dress in a sexual way in public but complain that men shouldn't stare or have sexual thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:22 AM
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I'm engaged and I don't look for a man. I never know how to act when some dude asks me out and interrupts my day. I've been chased and called stupid whore for refusing to go out with some man. Before the lockdown a guy approached me when I was having my sweet time for myself in a cafe. I had to pretend that I'm going to pick up a friend because he wouldn't leave me alone. And I was just weraing normal skirt and a shirt. Usually I pretend that I'm interested and block them as soon they text me. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:19 AM
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There are contexts where it is more acceptable to approach people. Bars, parties, certain networking events, gallery launches, OLD etc. Says who? Why do you get to decide this? Was everyone being sleazy before the recent invention of OLD? And saying being approached in public is terrible while suggesting OLD and bars are good places to meet is both sad and hilarious. In many cultures, which are often more relaxed, it's common to approach people in public In general, strangers do not want to be b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:18 AM
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For men to call "easy" women sluts but still accept an offer of sex on the first date and THEN ghost her because "Ewwww she's a slut" etc etc etc? Doesn't happen much. He didn't have a relationship with her because she didn't have relationship qualities. Or for men to see an attractive but modestly dressed but very attractive women and shoot their shot but when they are denied abuse or physically harm or rape her because "look at how she was dressed-she asked for it" or even when covered from he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:14 AM
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If women weren't so sexualized from their early teens, they most likely wouldn't be sexualizing themselves to that degree either. The idea that a woman's sexuality is her the most and only "power" still is alive and well, teens are still bombarded with mixed messages of 'respect yourself" and "prepare your summer body", it's no wonder some of them, maybe even a lot of them, fall into the trap. It's more like they realize that "sexualizing themselves" gets them better treatment from people overal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:12 AM
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f you haven't spoken before and you don't know them in real life it is honestly a little degrading, all you know is their picture and what they've decided to caption things and they know absolutely nothing about you. If you want to only date people you know, that's your choice. You're not entitled to everyone having the same preference
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:11 AM
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The reason is irrelevant. If I bring freshly baked cookies to the office, and my coworkers smell them and ask if they can have one, I can't complain even if that wasn't my "intention". Women can be hypocritical but they're not stupid. They know what they're doing and that it might invite attention. They just won't admit they want the attention exclusively from attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:07 AM
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Showing sexual attraction to someone isn't inherently disrespectful
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:04 AM
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Well nearly every sexy person is attractive, but there's a huge section of the venn diagram that's purely just "attractive." We're disagreeing about the size of the "fuzzy zone," but my position is that women make very overt indications that they want to be seen as purely "sexy" over something else. So unless there's overt intentionality included, or it's your romantic partner, the social protocol is to assume innocent intent, which avoids the common scenario where a woman dresses up just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 08:00 AM
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I know they do, which is why I bought it up, and I think those women are creepy and thirsty as well. I myself follow an extremely attractive male model because he looks great but I’ve never gotten the urge to comment ‘sexy body’ or ‘I’d hit it’ or any other stupidly sexual comment whenever he’s giving bedroom eyes or shirtless. I’d feel creepy as hell doing it because a) I have no kind of chance with him and b) I’d feel disgusted with myself saying that out loud. I always wonder how people are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:56 AM
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Just because you want attention only from a certain group of people doesn't mean you're entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:54 AM
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Except women complain simply for being approached. Just look at this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:52 AM
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Alls I’m sayin is, you show the goods, you get the prizes. It’s not any deeper than that. I don’t do it myself, because I suck at it and don’t give a shit about the prizes, but it’s totally clear why women do it. Men use violence to get what they want, women use sex. It’s shitty, but overall it works or we wouldn’t do it Then women shouldn't be complaining. Take the advantages with the disadvantages. Additionally, as women in Muslim countries and traditional cultures can attest, being virgins ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:50 AM
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Except these women blame men instead of talking about how they themselves can become more attractive options for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:47 AM
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Their definition of pickmeshas is often "women who don't follow my brand of unattractive feminism".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 07:46 AM
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So your definition is basically a woman that doesn't subscribe to your feminist agenda? A woman can't have issues with modern feminism and believe it's bad for everyone? Men's issues are constantly talked about? Feminists are not the ones talking about sexual liberation and anti-slutshaming while being hypocrites and shaming men and women's sexuality? Ironically, the main reason FDSers can't find commitment is because they're not doing enough of these very things you're accusing pickmes of doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 06:12 AM
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From what I saw on their sub, I only should have feminine passions. That sounds horrible to me. I can cook, but I won't pretend that I want to do it in my free time. I can bake, but I hate it and I'm not doing a nurturing hobby out of it. Many women who say things like this are doing it in the same vein as guys who want to stay at home and play video games all day while believing women should still want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 09:17 PM
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I already said that, but others don't need to change because of their "feelings".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 11:02 AM
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If you read the responses from the women who say they feel disgust, it's clear they believe: I feel disgust = the man did something wrong = men should stop doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:09 AM
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That's fine, as long as you don't expect others to change their behavior for your "feelings".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:22 AM
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An attractive person should feel the same way a rich person should feel. Understand that their "problems" are minor inconveniences and that the advantages far outweight the disadvantages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 09:46 PM
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It's more like men believed women when they claimed to be sexual liberated (and being the same as men)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 02:43 PM
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A hot person complaining about how terrible it is to be hit on is like a rich person complaining about the "inconveniences" of being rich
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 02:41 PM
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Don't settle then. Just don't expect to be only approached by Chad. Life ain't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 07:42 AM
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oooooo, an ad hominem from the bigbrain twelve-year-old. i'm so hurt. oh the irony The point would be that being an asshole isn't doing anyone any favors, but youre too retarded to get that. Go ree somewhere else. yep, approaching = being an asshole Words I would expect from a white-knighting incel living in mom's basement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 06:31 AM
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They're not surprised good-looking men do better with women. That's been around since forever. They're surprised a woman will use a guy she's not attracted to for his resources
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 06:17 AM
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so to avoid losing his soulmate, he should not approach her because he's afraid of offending her, therefore never even giving her a chance to say yes or no? Great logic, fucking incel
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 05:59 AM
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I took it as "men approaching me make me feelz bad, they need to understand and stop!". If you don't want your opinions criticized, don't come to a debate sub. r/TwoXChromosomes is that way ->
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 05:19 AM
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Dating is a numbers game, whether for relationships or just for sex. If a guy has to approach 100 women to meet his soulmate, after he does, do you think he's going to care about the other 99 he "offended"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 05:06 AM
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I’m just not sure why you’re so offended that a woman is saying being accosted in public is inconvenient and unwanted. Well, for one thing, you don't speak for all women. Just look at the other responses in this thread. A common feminist BS talking point is that what they want is what all women want. Second, your post about wanting to help men "understand" implies that you think they're doing something wrong and should change their behavior. They shouldn't. The only reason you gave just exposes …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 05:03 AM
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You might not want to admit it, but the guys who are successful with women are the ones who don't care how she feels about being approached. (These guys don't care about being rejected either)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 04:52 AM
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I am actually entitled to feel disgust when someone hits on me which is the question posed in this thread. It’s a visceral feeling, doesn’t mean I’m rude or impolite to the person at the time but internally yes I feel disgust in certain cases. I’m not here to lie or sugarcoat. Let me put this in a way men can understand. Imagine you have a really nice car and you drive it around town. You can feel whatever you want. Men don't have to (and shouldn't) care. No one did anything wrong because of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 04:23 AM
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You can date or reject whoever you like. You're not entitled to not being hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 03:53 AM
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What if that guy has dated a more attractive woman than you in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 03:13 AM
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men don't give a damn if ugly women hit on them. most non-traditional men don't even care if gay guys hit on them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 03:11 AM
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I call BS. Men who are comfortable approaching don't care about rejection. They'll just move on to the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 03:08 AM
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Let me put this in a way men can understand. Imagine you have a really nice car and you drive it around town. Now imagine that all the damn time, people just assume you’re open to selling your car. Once in a while you’ll get some bum offering you $2,000 for your car and it’s just insulting as well as insanely delusional. You just want to enjoy your life and not be bothered by compete strangers who always assume that they can offer you a deal you’re not interested in. You just proved how silly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 03:02 AM
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why the entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 02:57 AM
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holy sh*t, i want to hear the fat women story
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 07:40 AM
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Great, so you agree that guys who go on dates should just go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:52 AM
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TRP’s “taking responsibility” is again, pretty much: you should know how awful women are in a-z ways so if you’re not getting what you want it’s your fault for not knowing how awful women are in a-z ways. Again, stop strawmanning. One of TRP's slogans used to be "F* bitches get money". In other words, stop acting beta and chasing women all the time, instead become more attractive and women will come to you. Obviously, there's women bashing in it, but the focus on self-improvement was always a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 06:10 AM
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I think FDS’s strategy is basically believing better vetting will help solve whatever commitment issues a woman may have, so maybe that is the difference. Again, both TRP and FDS talk about vetting. But that alone is not taking responsibility. There are women who want casual sex. There are men who are open to committment (in fact, most men are). TRP says if men want casual sex, he has to become the kind of man women want. If a guy is not getting sex, there's a pretty high chance he doesn't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 10:24 PM
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TRP teaches men to be more than physically attractive. Being attractive is more than just lifting. It's lifestyle, hobbies, career, behavior etc. Being masculine is a big part of TRP philosophy. Again, telling a woman not to put out is just another way of telling them to how to avoid bad men. THere' s no taking responsibility. There's no resolving the core issues of why she can't get committment in the first place. Something like TRPW actually teaches women to take responsibility. Like FDS, TRPW…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 10:07 PM
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BS, noow you're just trying to strawman because you have no argument. Nobody in TRP is going to say "you can get casual sex or a non-betabuxxed relationship" just by avoiding bad women. It frequently emphasizes that if you can't get casual sex, it's because you're not attractive enough. And the only way to solve it is to become more attractive. That is taking responsibility. FDS is like the neckbeard in the basement thinking he's the prize and wondering why no woman wants to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:51 PM
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The goals of TRP and FDS are different but the problems are not. TRP also teaches men to enforce boundaries and to avoid shitty women, but that is just one component. Taking responsibility and self-improvement is another. You keep saying FDS women know how to sexually attract men, but that's not relevant. Most women, FDS or not, can get a man to want to have sex with her lol. What FDS is looking for is committment. I see this all the time. A woman knows how to dress up nicely and men will approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 09:29 PM
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You're not getting it. Obviously there are men who are open to committment, which is what FDS wants to help women find. FDS is pathetic in that they put no responsibility on the women to improve to achieve what they want. They instead spend time bashing men and only telling women to avoid non-committal men. TRP also bashes women and tells men to avoid women looking for a free meal. However, TRP ALSO tells men that it's also their fault for attracting such women in the first place and that they n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 07:40 AM
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Women already know what men want, FDS is more about trying to protect women from falling into giving men what they want without getting what they want in return. Moreover, even assuming TRP knows “what women want” they expressly intend to use this information to men’s benefit alone, not for women’s FDS isn't about finding casual sex partners for women. They're looking for committment, and the women in that sub clearly don't know how to get it from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:21 AM
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Attractiveness doesn't have anything to do with character. Getting committment definitely does.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 12:18 AM
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Even if you don't think the sub's intentions are to target shitty women, you can't deny it'll naturally attract those types of women, just like TRP will inevitably draw in some incels. And while I don't believe in the just world fallacy, I will say that anyone who's dated multiple shitty people have a high chance of being shitty themselves. Something tells me you wouldn't be too happy if there was a male group that puts all the blame on women and doesn't put any responsibility on men. TRP doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:13 AM
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It'll affect you when you get older and realize ore men your age are dating downward. If you're so concerned that women can be so easily manipulated, why don't you petition to have the age of adulthood raised for women? Or, you can just mind your own business. If you don't want to date older guys, then don't. No one's saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:02 AM
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It doesn't get reported becaues it's hard to prove. But if other people noticed or the bouncer notices, a guy doing that would be thrown out immediately. If people notice a woman doing it, they would just laugh and call the guy lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:34 PM
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It doesn't get reported becaues it's hard to prove. But if other people noticed or the bouncer notices, a guy doing that would be thrown out immediately. If people notice a woman doing it, they would just laugh and call the guy lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:34 PM
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Sorry, it works. Just cuz you suck at it doesn't mean otherwise. Dating is always a numbers game no matter what approach you use. Though you still haven't suggested what the right approach is. Also, have you considered that many people simply enjoy talking to others, even if no date comes out of it? So much for calling others losers, lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:38 AM
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Ya, keep telling yourself that. You're trying to spare your feelings, not theirs. Assuming they can't take "no" for an answer is even more demeaning and insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 08:29 AM
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If the dude offered a relationship, they would take it. No, they wouldn't unless they were always the type to seek relationships. Most of the flings i've had with younger women was when I was traveling. They know it's not going anywhere, but the status that comes with being more cultured and being able to have a traveling lifestyle is what gets them, and these come with age. The majority of 25 yo women have jumped off the CC entirely and are now pursuing BB which is what is causing the boost in …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 09:50 PM
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A younger woman fucking an older guy doesnt care about being a pariah. He's a ons/ fuck buddy not someone you introduce to friends and family. By your femcel logic, the younger hot guy is the one getting buxxed because he's the one giving her status among her peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:49 PM
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Most millennial men are already confident. She can pick the hot confident frat boy not some former neurotic nerd in his 30s. Hahaha, the generation of video games and smartphones with record levels of anxiety and depression are the most confident..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:43 PM
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Keep coping. Guys who go for post wall women are the ones diving.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:40 PM
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If she's been riding the CC, then she's used to chads jumping ship at the first sign of monogamy. She may think it's better to continue FWBing wealthy high-value dudes in the hopes of getting them emotionally attached later on. Nice coping. Thats why theae women refuse to enter a relationship even when the older guy offers it...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:38 PM
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Nah, there are women smart enough to marry guys before they peak. Whats left are unmarried postwall women competing with younger women for guys at their peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 07:32 PM
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Yep, it couldn't possibly be that women out there are higher value than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 12:00 AM
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Right, I'm the one accusing women I don't like of being gold-diggers and men who refuse to abide by my standards as "low SMV". Insecurity indeed. Now, you're admitting that you don't even know people in these relationships, and yet you feel like you can comment on their nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:29 PM
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Nice attempt at shaming tactics. I wonder who is truly insecure. Surely not the feminists who preach about equality but say nasty things about men's partners who come from outside their acceptable sphere. Sure, they don't want those men. Just like nobody wants to buy products from companies who make them in China /s. The dating market is becoming like the global economy. It's more competitive, so you better have something good to offer. It doesn't matter what you want. No one's going to bend ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 06:01 AM
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Yeah OK. He’s perfectly capable of getting younger and “better.” He’s still here. Because a woman who wants him but doesn’t need him is far better in his mind than a woman who needs him but doesn’t want him. Sure, if he actually want him and express it, then great. This is more a warning for those who don't. You just have to learn how to vet the gold diggers. This is where certain things taught in TRP are useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:14 AM
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The whole point of this topic is guys going overseas and finding their SMV is changed. You'll have a harder time selling your product when guys can just go overseas to get something better and cheaper.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:06 AM
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No one’s worried. Especially not on PPD, nearly all of us are married or in LTRs. Making in observation based on what we see isn’t being worried. Irrelevant. Your spouse/SO isn't going to be so compromising for you if he knows he can get better elsewhere. Exactly. And if that works for you, great. Good luck to you. But pretending that they’re better women simply because they’re willing to play a role and use you to get a better life is disingenuous. A woman who extracts resources but treats a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 02:43 PM
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Right, you're so concerned with "facts" that you paint millions of women with a broad brush. And these women just so happen to be ones that can threaten your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 02:39 PM
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Right, women from 'murica are the smartest and sexually enpowered when they have a ONS, but when women from other countries go home with a guy, they're stupid enough to believe it will actually land them a green card. So maybe put aside the borderline race-baiting, and travel the world a bit more. Most of world doesn't give a shit about the US or think it's that great. But if all that were true, what do local women have to worry about? If these women were truly using these men, the guys will scr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:55 AM
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you sound like one of those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 07:20 AM
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It's not that simple. You need witnesses to prove it's a legit marriage and marriages like this would be highly suspect. And by your logic, even local women who have ONS are just trying to fuck their way into a serious relationships. Obviously, that usually doesn't work out, just like it wouldn't overseas. But I really think you don't understand that women are attracted to status. And having western citizenship and being relatively wealthy can be a huge status booster, in addition to potentially…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 06:56 AM
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Cool, just making sure your "moral judgement" is consistent. This does further support the idea that it's probably women who slut-shame more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 01:44 AM
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So, as a feminist you believe: women are NOT capable of making big decisions, they do NOT have bodily autonomy, and they should NOT wear revealing clothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 09:17 AM
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So you're against women having one-night stands then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 09:16 AM
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Not really sure why you're being stubborn with this. Nobody is saying technology is all bad and no one should ever use it. With anything good, there is always some bad. The industrial revolution also increased the quality of life for many people. It also brought mass pollution and lacked labor standards. Until people realized what was happening and decided to put a check on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 03:45 AM
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If you're unaware of the various studies linking technology to increased anxiety, depression, ADHD, negative relationship outcomes etc, you are vastly ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 11:01 PM
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So the campaigns against smoking is just hysteria? Why are you against educating people about the dangers of what they're consuming?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 05:50 PM
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No one is saying there's something intrinsically wrong with the current generation. But people used to think smoking was no big deal. People used to think having unprotected sex was no big deal. It's about making people aware of what they're actually consuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 08:23 AM
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Who's suggesting to take away people's phones? Technology is great and all, and you do need it to survive, but it's stupid to suggest there aren't drawbacks and that we shouldn't be concerned about people using it irresponsibly. It has made women more socially inept, depressed, and oversensitive. Even older feminists scoff at current ones who suggest that a women telling a man she doesn't want to have sex with him is too much to ask of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 07:50 AM
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Go read about mens' experiences in this very thread. I, for one, do not consent to women touching unless she's attracted to me (and it has happened plenty)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 07:23 AM
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stop being obtuse. the point is a person (male or female) has no way of knowing for sure beforehand whether the other party welcomes advances or not. So we either allow it (for both genders) or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 07:21 AM
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Nah, they just don't want to end up like this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 12:37 AM
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You just contradicted yourself. If creepiness is subjective, then what's "wrong" and "correct" for one person isn't going to be the same for another. And women these days are quite liberal with the use of the word. It basically boils down to if they're uncomfortable, you did something wrong and are therefore creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:55 PM
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Who gets to decide that approaching with a lack of signals is creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:36 PM
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Ya, but the analogy is not quite complete. If men weren't afraid to talk to women, they would have more access to women, and women would lose power. They can't have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 07:15 PM
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guys who can naturally integrate themselves into smooth interactions with strange women never have to ask others for approval. they don't think about it, its old hat. it wouldn't even occur to them that they shouldn't because the have the social skill to know when they should or shouldn't, when they should end an interaction, etc. guys who need to ask the internet don't have any of that. and they're more likely to be ugly which means the results wont be as good anyway. Ha, even in agreeing with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 06:58 PM
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Don't you know? Heterosexual sexuality is inherently self-absorbed, saying more about him and how he feels at the moment, than about the woman herself, which is a bizarre thinking/communicative process when attempting a two-way conversation with another human... But seriously, prepare for the women here to tell you how traumatizing it is for them to be approached. How no woman ever wants to be approached in public. Or how every other man could be a rapist/killer waiting to strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:37 AM
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Because according to women, it's "objectification".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 09:56 AM
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They do get fair trials; it's just a hard crime to prove. It's incredibly difficult to win slander cases due to laws governing free speech. The best defense against it is for society to be vigilant against claims and not believe someone simply because of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 10:43 PM
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You can slander all you want, but no reasonable society is going to believe you without evidence, nor should they. And sure, let's pretend all women are wonderful and would never lie. And that they're all sane. Nobody would ever abuse this form of "justice", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 10:31 PM
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If you accuse me of burglary, and I deny it, we look at the evidence to try to figure out who's telling the truth. We don't automatically believe you or me. Whether the process is traumatizing or not, neither I nor anyone else should support trampling the rights of others to make the victim "feel better".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:37 PM
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These issues need not be against women’s issues, they can work in unison. Not for things relating to rape, sexual harassment, #BelieveAllWomen, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/19 09:17 AM
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Right. There are equally as many violent offenders per capita as there were before, who are just itching to attack someone, and the only reason they can't is because people are staying inside...Those women in less developed countries are attacked because they're forced to go outside
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:10 PM
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compared to their former less developed, less rich, less educated selves. Ok? A society that is more developed than it was before has less crime and violence than it did before. Central-Eastern Europe (ignoring Russia, Ukraine and Belarus and everywhere there's Russians) are much poorer and less developed than Western Europe and yet we are on par with them when it comes to crime statistics and even more safe than the states. Uh, what countries are you referring to? Central Europe usually include…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:09 PM
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Ya, you're right. You're clearly the expert.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 03:50 AM
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Do you seriously think there are just as much violent offenders now per capita as there were before, but the only reason violence has gone down is because people are more cautious? Or we can use the explanation that anyone with a shred of common sense can understand. Richer, more developed, and more highly educated societies produce less criminals. Women in 3rd world countries are not getting raped more because they lack the "caution" of women in developed countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:46 AM
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Nope, pretty much every study attributes it to better education and increased quality of life. You seriously think with people traveling more than ever and the rampant use of online dating/hookup apps, that people are more cautious? lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:18 AM
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the vast majorities of rape and violence against women are not done by strangers. Also, a guy who isn't afraid to approach women isn't going to get violent when she rejects him?. Why should he give a shit, just find another woman to approach. A lot of women who say they hate being approached implicitly know this. It's not safety they're worried about. What they don't like is being the disposable one for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:11 AM
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This is one of the most safest times in human history for people, including women, in developed countries. Yet ghosting is more prevalent than ever. It's not danger, it's that women are more coddled than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 02:09 AM
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The job application analogy is a good one, but it shows why approaching is necessary. To compare with the SMP, it's like you just graduated from a highly competitive field, and you're in a job market where employers have all the power. Yes, you should go through all the traditional routes, networking with friends, going to job fairs etc. But you must also apply to as many positions as you can, sending out your resume to many, hoping to strike lucky with a few. Yes, you still need a solid resume,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 01:37 AM
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Huh? It's the opposite of giving her massive power. By cold approaching, you're sub-communicating that you're not afraid to approach and talk to women. If she doesn't like you, it's not a problem, you can always approach more women and find one that does. Obviously, this doesn't work if your social skills are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 01:29 AM
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I've always considered it more of a kindness from women. When a woman doesn't let a guy catch her alone, she's trying to spare his feelings by avoiding an awkward confrontation. She's hoping he'll get the subtle signal when she doesn't want to be alone with him, when she shrinks away from his touch, when she answers everything he says with two words or less. She's trying to avoid embarrassing him and soften the blow of rejection by giving him hints instead of being bitchy. Sometimes, this might …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 01:21 AM
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We're not allowed to talk about race here, but I think you're smart enough to think of an analogy where a person might not want to be assumed to be a criminal. Just in case though, I can present you with another scenario. Let's say you're at the grocery store, and a toddler comes up to you and starts talking to you. You respond back without any sort of malicious intention. The mother of the child notices you speaking to him, comes up to you, and picks up her child. She gives you a dirty look and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 01:14 AM
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Wrong. You can approach two women in the exact same way and get completely different reactions. The annoying thing is when women who prefer it one way try to force their beliefs on everyone else by framing it as a gender issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 12:54 AM
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Oh really? Then, please explain "having friendships and getting close to gay men". I think it's english but maybe you know something more?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:05 AM
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Right, you know what people are thinking. Sounds like projection. I hope this convo at least makes you more careful about the implications of your arguments lol. Your new topic is also very different from this one, so I think it's you who's misunderstanding the OP. This thread is about men wanting to be friends with women they are attracted to and men making advances on women in general. It's not about men invading women's personal space. Clubs are raunchy places in general where typical rules d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 12:57 AM
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how the hell did you turn a thread about unwanted attention and "friendships" into sexual assault at a club? Also, do you realize that you're implying that as long as the guy is attractive, women at the club would be okay with him grabbing their asses and tits? You sure that's where you want to go? Women do not want some random guy grabbing her genitals no matter how good he looks. lmao, somehow your argument turned into one condoning assault Imaging a man you find sexually unappealing inserting…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 12:33 AM
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it also shows that women like older guys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 12:22 AM
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no, the wtf reaction is for your completely out-of-the-blue depiction of a sexual assault. Something that nutty radfems need to understand: unwanted/unrequited sexual attention does not equal rape/assault. Men do not care about mere sexual attention. Most men and well-adjusted women do not equate it with rape/assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 08:27 PM
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wtf, ya men don't want to be assaulted or raped. They don't give a damn if some guy or girl has sexual feelings towards them. Atlas was right when she said the women bothered by this are often the less attractive ones. They don't want to be confronted with the fact that less attractive men might be in their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 08:17 PM
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In general, men simply don't care that much if someone they find unattractive is hitting on them, regardless of that person's sex. They have thicker skin. Safety is mostly a non-factor. Even the women here are attesting to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 07:42 PM
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It's just funny that radfems and tradcons, who are supposed to opposites, can be so equally prudish that you can't tell if a statement came from one or the other. "Heterosexual energy" is a natural part of humanity and isn't some boogeyman or the excesses of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 07:34 PM
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Well I know you generally believe people can do whatever they want, but OP clearly thinks men should change their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 07:31 PM
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Based on your interaction with the other guy, it sure doesn't seem like you're debating in good faith. I'm not a mod, but I've seen posts with a similar tone removed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 07:29 PM
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I read it. The guy shot down your argument, but you couldn't even fully admit it. Goodbye indeed, but be careful: Below are the guidelines required for a successful CMV post: ... 2) You must be open to having your view challenged. This means that you must act in a way that demonstrates that you are willing to have your view challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:26 PM
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The Wall is backed by science https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/b07xbj/what_science_has_to_say_about_changes_in_the_smp/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 12:19 PM
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I've seen it and my comment still stands. Women do not place men into two groups of gross vs attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 11:38 AM
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Refuse to believe what? Men here are saying they're not repulsed by gay men and don't really mind being hit on. They're refusing to believe their own feelings? It's funny because when I tell radfems that being hit on isn't the worse thing in the world, they insist that I'm mansplaining. Then I tell them how I get hit on by gay guys and it doesn't bother me, and it shuts them up real quick. (They hate men but gays are a protected class in their eyes)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:51 AM
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heterosexual sexuality is inherently self-absorbed, saying more about him and how he feels at the moment, than about the woman herself, which is a bizarre thinking/communicative process when attempting a two-way conversation with another human Sometimes, I really can't tell if something is written by a radfem or the crazy preacher down the street who still thinks it's the 1600's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:36 AM
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Sounds like you're projecting your own shittiness onto other women. And it's strange that I'm the one now defending NAWALT. Most women do not mind if a guy she's unattracted to hits on her unless he's being rude or overly persistent. And most women do not categorize men into two groups, attractive or gross. There's plenty of in between ("he's alright", "just meh" etc). Even BP women insist that they need time to get to know a man to build attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:30 AM
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Except the great flaw in your argument is that no guy knows if a woman is attracted to him until he hits on her. This isn't true for gay men because the vast majority of guys are straight. It DOES apply in situations where men are likely to be gay, such as gay bars. But the vast majority of straight guys would not be upset if gay guys were hitting on them in a gay bar. in FACT, the more unattractive men feel comfortable hitting on a woman the LOWER her self-esteem will be. That can apply to low-…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:25 AM
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Plenty of women, including those here, insist that men shouldn't approach women because they will feel threatened. But at least you're basically admitting that many women are just hiding behind that excuse and trying to turn it into a gender issue, when in reality, they're just trying to avoid some minor discomfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:11 AM
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Gay men can be just as persistent as straight men. Funny how so many women here claim how rude it is for a guy to even try to talk to her and are now denying it and when men say they don't react the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 10:06 AM
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That's great for a fling. Nobody wants yo deal with that shit long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 06:33 PM
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This is sbout a woman who's hsd a ton of bfs. 3 LTRs by the age of 25 is not a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 06:32 PM
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What are some examples of dangling committment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 07:20 AM
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Still a dude pretending to be a woman, or did you come clean with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 05:23 PM
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I know some asian guys who are quite successful at getting laid (by a variety of ethnicities) because they seek out kpop fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 10:37 AM
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You are either hanging around asians or weebs. Or both. weebs isn't even the right country, but i wouldn't expect someone of your caliber to know that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 09:45 AM
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Some of the complaints definitely stem from chauvinistic attitudes (my country (and the men in it) is the best and women shouldn't be looking elsewhere). However, I'd like to point out that women, including some commenting here, are hypocritical about this, for example, looking down on men who date or marry foreigners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:49 AM
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