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Everyone needs to keep in mind that this study is published in an edition of a journal that is meant to be tongue in cheek. There is a study in it that talks about why all the magazines in waiting rooms are all old. I think it's fine to poke fun at the gender's stereotypes, and it's better for us to be fine with it. I don't like over sensitivity to these sorts of things. I do understand the existence of a double-standard, but I prefer to fight it by rejecting the "get offended at everything" sta…
/r/MensRights12/12/14 04:17 PM
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They complained about that Tomb Raider? That one was really good. I even played it with one of the less reveal-y outfits because it just fit the story/atmosphere better.
/r/MensRights05/12/14 11:40 PM
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Can you share the data you gathered (cleaned up and organized)? Does it have all the different causes of death as well? Thanks!
/r/MensRights01/12/14 01:29 PM
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Nice work. You should also post this to r/DataIsBeautiful as well.
/r/MensRights01/12/14 01:10 PM
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I'm with you on getting the state out of it. I just think there's a fine distinction between the automatic nature of the legal shortcuts that a couple gets when they are married, and other kinds of contracts. The latter can be achieved already, as far as I am aware. You can get lawyers to draft up contracts to share property, etc. For example, this lesbian throuple had lawyers draw up property sharing agreements. Since what is achieved by the legal definition of marriage can be achieved without …
/r/MensRights11/11/14 05:33 PM
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Your distinction between the right to marry and the freedom of association is on the right track, but it doesn't go far enough. The "right" to marry is not even a right to contract. That already exists (and you can manage all kinds of things with a lawyer). The right to marry, in the US at least, is really just access to certain legal shortcuts.
/r/MensRights11/11/14 04:18 PM
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Being an object with inherent value is simply easier than being an agent who must earn value through work. This is one the best summaries I've heard.
/r/MensRights08/10/14 01:46 AM
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For anyone wanting to find out data for their own university, go to this website. You can search for universities, select a campus, and view a small set of the statistics for them (the ones for Clemson that OP posted are the same on the site). This page will lead you to some links to download all their data in various formats. It's too late in the evening to crunch the total numbers, but I may get around to doing a post on that at some point.
/r/MensRights03/10/14 04:34 AM
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Thank you for making this! Just hearing that someone else thinks the same way helps to keep the sanity up.
/r/MensRights02/09/14 09:56 PM
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These are some good points! I agree that some amount of accepting or rejecting fatherhood rights might be a good way to go about it.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:15 PM
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This bill has the potential to add more choices for fathers, so it's disingenuous to call it anti-choice.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 03:14 PM
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This is basically just the known fact that stress can tear you up applied to a gender war. It's a human health issue that we should all, regardless of gender, treat everyone with respect and dignity.
/r/MensRights09/05/14 04:08 PM
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Thanks for the information. I agree about the effect being greater as time passes, which was what I was wanting to demonstrate. Looking back, I read the statement That bias would affect both time periods as That bias would affect both time periods equally The author of the comment may not have meant it that way, but it seemed to be her meaning in the context of trying to discount the 12-month statistics.
/r/MensRights01/05/14 03:52 PM
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See this article for some information to help you out. 12 month data are generally better due to a lack of time passing to hide/rationalize traumatic experiences. Other commenters have talked about this, and the link I gave above does the same. The lady replied with: That bias would affect both time periods Which is clearly not true, based on the link I give, and other people's links. She needs to provide evidence for that assumption. Here is a quote from the article I linked that disagrees with…
/r/MensRights01/05/14 01:21 PM
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I've heard a hypothesis for men's greater variance based on chromosomes. Women, by virtue of having two X chromosomes, will exhibit behavior closer to the "mean" because those chromosomes may cancel or hide extreme traits (if they are recessive, for example). Men, having only 1 X chromosome, will not get that benefit. It's an interesting thought. Since the mean IQs of men and women are pretty close it could indicate that both genders are sampling from the same underlying distribution. However, w…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 02:04 PM

Your husband's behavior makes a lot of sense. I think when people get stressed/nervous, they revert back to more "typical" (for lack of a better word) behaviors. For guys, since we're conditioned in many cases to not show concern or affection, we do it by throwing spitballs on the playground at the girl we think is cute. Sounds like he's just throwing spitballs :) It's awesome that you're able to understand that and recognize his love through his actions.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 12:01 PM

What aspects of male and female privilege are undeniable?
/r/MensRights09/03/14 02:36 AM
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This is the best viewpoint, IMO. It seems to be bad psychology (as well as bad caring for human beings in general) to make blanket statements that something cannot ever be addictive. Also, if sex addiction is a recognized thing, why not porn addiction? That seems hard to distinguish between.
/r/MensRights14/02/14 02:40 PM
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Roger that!
/r/MensRights05/01/14 06:05 PM
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Though religion and morality comes in the way I apologize for being nit-picky, but statements about whether or not something is rape is a statement of morality.
/r/MensRights05/01/14 05:19 PM
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Oftentimes "the patriarchy" or men will be blamed for certain social ills (real or perceived). Women's participation in politics falls in that category. This story illustrates that when the culture is more free/progressive/equal that there isn't necessarily any motion toward women becoming more concerned with or participating more in politics. This therefore provides evidence that patriarchal hypotheses are wrong.
/r/MensRights02/01/14 07:31 PM

There was a Norwegian documentary, "Brainwash: The Gender Paradox" that might help shed some light on this. In the documentary, the question was asked as to why countries with more progressive equality standards saw women engage more, not less, in "stereotypical" professions. The conclusion reached/hypothesized was that in the progressive countries (which tended to also be wealthier) allowed women more freedom to pursue what they really wanted to do. In poorer countries, survival dictated that y…
/r/MensRights02/01/14 01:48 PM
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I'm also 6'4", with what are probably proportionally sized hands, and laptop keyboards can sometimes be impossible. Thinkpads hurt after a few minutes of use. The obvious explanation is that people are height-ists! I really like how she acknowledges the economic reasons for airplane seating being how it is, but doesn't seem to be able to apply that reasoning to the rest of her dilemma.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 08:25 PM
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The point is really good, but I don't see the problem stemming from the right to be believed. I see it as coming more from the notion that the alleged victim must be believed. In my view of rights, a "right to be believed" simply means that no one can prevent you from being believed by another person (which is sort of an abstract concept anyway..). For example, the right to life isn't a right that forces other people to sustain your life (in general), rather its a right that expresses that no on…
/r/MensRights11/11/13 08:53 PM
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Perhaps it already is being compensated at such a level.
/r/MensRights07/10/13 01:13 PM
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396, at just after 2 hours.
/r/MensRights27/09/13 05:33 PM
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Also, the idea that making a profit off of workers is "oppressive" ignores the fact that being an employer indicates a time preference for money. A worker wants money now, so the employer has them make goods or services and pays them immediately. The employer, however, must wait an uncertain amount of time to sell the product and make money. This is almost exactly like getting a loan. One party wants money right away (the employee), and the other party is willing to give that money right away, w…
/r/MensRights27/09/13 01:12 PM
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It's a pretty typical anti-male article, that has just enough truth smattered in it to seem reasonable. The article creep-shames all men, implies that all men are rapists, and that there is an inexplicably large number of families who don't apparently tell their kids that rape is wrong. None of that matches with reality. There was one really good comment in the thread: So we teach girls not to be victims and we teach boys not to be aggressors.In the process, we tell all young girls that they are…
/r/MensRights26/09/13 01:26 PM
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Neat! Thanks for the answer.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 04:50 PM
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Do all behavioral science studies depend on that theory though? I'm asking out of genuine interest. It seems to me that 'behavioral science' is a broad term, and I can't tell if it's being used as jargon, or just as a more general term. My impression of a 'rational actor' is also that it means that a person pursues ends with chosen means, but that it can't tell you why a person desires certain ends, or ranks means. Is that correct?
/r/MensRights29/08/13 01:58 PM
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I saw this a few minutes ago on facebook. Check out the comments on the official posting from the upworthy facebook page. One guy put down a huge number of sources used to claim that the inequity is very high. I was unsure of which person he was replying to, though. I am copying the sources here for those who are interested. Note: I have not read any of these to decide if they support any conclusion one way or another. For people with time, though, these may be interesting to look at and compare…
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:19 AM
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The quote wasn't meant to say that the 3% was including just the 3 services they listed. I used that quote to illustrate the magnitude of the abortions performed. If you include all the services planned parenthood performs then yes it is 3% The article defines how that number doesn't mean anything, because it's not representative of the relative magnitudes of services. FTA: "Planned Parenthood “unbundles” all of its services so that a pack of pills, an STD test and an exam are three separate ser…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 11:43 PM
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It certainly has! In general, it has given the traditional male responsibilities to the state. As most of you are aware, though, it hasn't removed those responsibilities from men. They have just removed the authority (which has been given to the state). It is this disconnect between responsibility and respect/authority that is a source of a great number of difficulties.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:37 PM
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This statistic is misleading. See this Slate.com article for an explanation. Basically, by calling it 'services', and by counting small things as 'services', it is made to appear that PP doesn't perform all that many abortions. FTA: "As compared with the nearly 334,000 abortions that Planned Parenthood provided in 2011, 28,674 women received prenatal services. And 2,300 were referred to adoption agencies." That's hardly '3%'.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:29 PM
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This sounds a lot like a fight I got into in grade school. The same was true about the girls, those battles raged undergound for years.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 10:35 PM
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My body, my choice
/r/MensRights10/07/13 06:37 PM
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Any chance to get some raw data to play with? The amateur statistician in me is curious!
/r/MensRights20/06/13 02:53 AM
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They are simply better at 'being bored' than boys. They tend to just zone out and day dream, while the boys look for external sources. Yep! This page has some basic overview, with links to two studies.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:44 PM
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To add to that, evolution also only works through reproduction, meaning that only traits that exhibit themselves prior to reproduction will have a significant impact. If a person had genetic defects that caused them to die or become ill-suited as a mate before reproduction, that trait would likely start to leave the population. However, menopause has zero impact on the selection of a female in a mating pair. Compound that by considering that reproduction can occur for decades before menopause an…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 06:54 PM
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Since the letter was sent in 2011, I wonder if we can find out if any action was taken.
/r/MensRights25/05/13 01:24 PM
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Seriously. How about more help for men's mental health issues or reproductive rights? It sounds like this whole thing is a white knight organization to get more free contraception for women while calling all men rapists and inherently flawed.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 06:32 PM
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Hoff-Summers is a boss when it comes to analyzing feminist policies and gender roles. I especially enjoy how well she maintains a slight emotional frame throughout her talks, as opposed to coming off as some cold fact-spewer (which I know I have issues with). Another great article by her.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:00 PM
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I think that might reinforce the inability to reject the null hypothesis!
/r/MensRights03/04/13 04:22 AM
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And don't get me started on the double-slit experiment. Misogyny!
/r/MensRights02/04/13 03:14 PM
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the majority of people under the poverty line are single mothers and their children Yeah, but a lot of that is due to the incarceration rates of men, as well as welfare being a subsidization of single motherhood. When she says that feminism still needs to address it, I think she should consider the same kind of analysis that she gives the wage gap. Are there perhaps choices and incentives that people are making and have that encourage that sort of thing? I think I get a bit knee-jerky when femin…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 12:01 AM
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I'm not trying to say that there aren't degrees of wrongness. My only concern was just a blanket statement about consent and compliance that, depending on how someone defines or views those words, could really cause a lot of unintended offense. I was imagining someone going "oh those crazy MRAs think any kind of compliance is consent because they are just rape apologists", and I went a bit on the defensive. At any rate, thanks for the respectful dialogue! I like this subreddit because most of th…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:06 AM
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It's using a threat to get sex. Is this really related to what was happening in the video? No, that scenario was different. However, I don't see how you can speak so generally and say that compliance is always consent. If someone showed up at your house, threatened your life if you didn't give them your possessions, and you gave them your possessions, does that mean you consented to that? Of course not. Sure, you said 'yes', and could have said 'no', but the thief in this case actively and willf…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 03:56 AM
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Not always, no. Compliance can occur under duress. "Have sex with me or lose your job" is a perfect example.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 02:54 AM
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You are quite welcome. It's one of the best ways to point out a pretty blatant bias in child-raising. Good luck with your presentation!
/r/MensRights12/03/13 09:25 PM
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I think this is the one you want.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:17 PM
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Such as?
/r/MensRights04/03/13 03:24 PM
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It's a very good reminder. I recently got very unhappy at a FB post that my g/f liked which was basically "we love the men in our lives, but as a group they are stupid". It was just a joke, and I know I've made similar jokes about women, but I was fresh off of a MR blog binge and feeling very pro-male so it got to me more than it should have.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 03:21 PM
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I am also really looking forward to marriage. Seeing what my folks and my brother have in theirs is really encouraging. That, and I really want to be able to pass on all the things I've learned about being a man to a son or two.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 03:41 PM
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Yeah, it was crazily oversimplified, so after I read it I had no respect for the opinions of the poster, downvoted it, and went about my day.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 09:44 PM
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I prefer my justice with all the bacon and eggs I have.
/r/MensRights01/02/13 02:21 AM
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I can't find it right now, but it was related to these posters, IIRC. EDIT: Found it right after. Here is a GWW video with all the info
/r/MensRights28/01/13 02:02 PM
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The comments have diverged to talking about atheism, which doesn't seem to be the point here. OP's point, my guess is, is to use this to illustrate that because many feminists will shut down discussion for the reasons displayed in the picture that feminism is a form of shutting down free thought. Accepting that this is an over-generalization, it does meet with many of our experiences and encounters with feminism. I imagine the rebuttal for some feminists (as we have seen in that one video where …
/r/MensRights27/01/13 08:45 PM
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Diversity in research, yes, but diversity of gender/race/etc. does not necessarily mean that you get diversity in research. In the STEM areas, the person's background may influence the kinds of fields/things they like, but it's not really going to make a big difference in terms of the idea diversity. That'll be up to what's being funded, what is marketable, the adviser you get, and other factors. TVs, airplanes, cell phones, cars, infrastructure, etc. are pretty diverse, even though they came fr…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 04:07 AM
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Yikes. I'm glad that you didn't get your life ruined. In what follows, I'm not trying to say that you should have done X or Y, I'm hoping that others can give advice on how to handle these sorts of situations. My take is that if the wife/SO is going nuts, don't give in or escalate. Just stand there, like a rock, and let them yell and vent and do all that childish nonsense. If they attack you, defend yourself, and leave immediately while calling the police. Or is there a better way?
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:30 PM
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The way the process works is that they really don't let you apply unless there initially appears to be a good chance that it would be granted. The percentage rates of annulments don't actually reflect the screening process.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 11:24 PM
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Are they doing anything to stop frivolous divorces and women breaking up families? Are they doing anything to end no-fault divorce? Well, the church won't let you remarry if you get a civil divorce. And the church has been plenty vocal about the destruction of marriage. Humanae Vitae predicted it back in the 60's. Do they teach women to submit to their husband's headship of the family? Do they oppose the concept of "marital rape?" For the first one, yes, I've heard 1 Corinthians at mass plenty o…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 02:18 PM
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That's really not all that controversial. Contraception and abortion create 'consequence-free' sex, purely for pleasure. It removes the procreative aspect from a sexual relationship. This causes people to view each other more as objects, and it creates more chances for single motherhood because contraceptives increase the rate of sexual activity. There is ample evidence of this occurring, with many different theories as to why. The CDC has even shown that increases use/access to contraceptives i…
/r/MensRights03/01/13 12:27 AM
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You did very well, I'm bookmarking because you said it all better than I could have. I did reply to her follow-up, though, and I hope I did alright. It really bugs me how quickly she dismissed the whole argument about survival being the oppressor. Speaking of which, do you read/watch a lot of Warren Farrel? Your arguments are very much like the ones he made in Toronto, as well as in his books.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 08:54 PM
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What really bothers me is that there isn't a consistent set of views (on the law books or in public, generalized perception) as to what the rights of a private business vis a vis equality are. IMO, there are only two consistent views. The first I subscribe to, which is that private property is, in fact, private, and you can allow/disallow anyone to enter your property, and you can choose to contract/sell/perform services on your property as you see fit (as long as no one else's private property …
/r/MensRights01/01/13 08:11 PM
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There were, but they were the ambulance drivers.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 08:37 PM
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I had been linked to an article or two from Men's New Daily about 8 years ago. I kept perusing the site at that time and learned some things that struck a nerve in terms of my own observations/experience. Also, the scholarship application process opened my eyes, just based on the number of scholarships available to women/minorities. I couldn't understand why pure performance wasn't the only measure of merit. I wanted to find the answer, and that led me farther down the MRA path.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 06:37 PM
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And in the US, but I find it throws many people off.
/r/MensRights18/12/12 06:33 PM

I just want to add my voice to let you know that there are people who support and believe people in your situation. I'm one of them. I don't know what to say that will console you, and I wish I did. My only advice about terrible situations is to accept that you may never get over them, but you can get through them. If people in your life don't believe or trust you, you are better off without them. I know that because of this your life has changed rapidly and dramatically. Take the new start (or …
/r/MensRights11/12/12 01:06 AM
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Really great talk. My favorite parts were the discussion of the wage gap, and also pointing out that the real oppression in the past was the oppression forced by the requirements of survival. It was also interesting to hear about how feminism started with rich women who, once unencumbered from the forces of survival, were able to discover that they were unhappy, etc. I really wish he talked more about the feminization of education. If anyone has quality sources on those (the two in the FAQ are a…
/r/MensRights24/11/12 07:40 PM
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This is a great question! I would just rephrase the first one to "Should a company offer additional employment opportunities or incentives to groups that are not adequately represented in the company?". The reason is because there is a bias in believing that 'minority' means something under than 'local under-representation'. With the change, both questions are logically the same, the second one providing more specific context in order to illustrate the bias.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 08:40 PM
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It has nothing to do with the law. It has to do with the question of who is in charge of property. If you think that the government can tell you who you must do business with, and what you must charge them, then your view of private property is a very limited one. If you believe that government has any right to regulate what you do with your property (above and beyond making sure you don't harm others with it) than I don't see how you have any leg to stand on against feminism. Feminism seeks to …
/r/MensRights05/11/12 01:31 AM

It's not illegal (or at least, it shouldn't be). The restaurant is private property, and they should be able to charge whatever they want to whomever they want. How many other instances of government forced 'equality' has this subreddit been against? Would doing it in this case be ok just because you want to pay less for a meal? Just don't give your money to places you don't like. If enough people do that, then they'll learn their lesson.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:53 PM
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I've noticed that, too. Also, an-caps and libertarians will tend to be more open minded just because we're very pro-individual, so if you have your preferences, that's fine. Just don't force them on other people :) An-caps will be different from left-anarchists in that private property is one of the foundational principles of their view of society. My impression of left-anarchists is that there's no state, and people within the community agree to share property, or have private property except f…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 04:58 AM

Yes :) I'm following the standard libertarian progression toward an-cap!
/r/MensRights30/10/12 04:14 AM

I want to throw in some personal experience here that agrees with the above. If you've never gone through a radical change in thought/opinion, then you may not realize that it can be physically painful as well. Uncertainty, doubt, and the other emotions can register quite extremely. My own experience was going from a hard-core neocon to a libertarian, meaning that I had to accept/understand that 'Murica had done some pretty terrible things in the world (going from "glass the middle east" to "oh …
/r/MensRights29/10/12 08:18 PM
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I wonder if the study did total compensation? Even the CONSAD study wasn't able to hit insurance or other benefits well. For two single people, i would imagine the woman's insurance is higher, so an offset in salary isn't shocking
/r/MensRights26/10/12 11:01 PM

Link to original story, since it seems missing
/r/MensRights26/10/12 04:37 PM

women shouldn't be afforded the same rights as men Everyone has the same rights. Privileges differ, though. The two get confused a lot. A proper distinction is important when discussing gender issues. (I'm not saying anything you said is wrong, I'm just adding on).
/r/MensRights02/10/12 04:36 PM
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Wow, good info. Thanks!
/r/MensRights02/10/12 03:01 AM

For those of you interested in some data to carry around with you, the link between broken families and crime is the biggest one (it beats socioeconomic factors) Here is a good article about that. FTA: The relationship [between single-parent families and crime] is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime. This conclusion shows up time and again in the literature. The nation's mayors, as well as police offi…
/r/MensRights01/10/12 02:42 PM

Isn't that already called Springer?
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:38 PM
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I think it will be the end for the same reasons that the pill is. The further destruction of the family, and the loss of any semblance of real respect for men and women as human persons. We'll all treat each other like objects, since there won't be "consequences". No reason to relate to someone for who they are, just keep taking pills and using each other.
/r/MensRights16/08/12 08:03 PM
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1) Sexual activities can be planned for while sober. You can control how much you drink. You can decide ahead of time how much to drink, max. You can have a friend with you to make sure you don't leave with someone if you get drunk. You can avoid getting to the point where you are too fucked up to resist. I'm not trying to victim blame here. I'm pointing out that pretty much everything you can say about drunk driving, you can say about drunken sex. Especially mutually drunken sex! If someone get…
/r/MensRights15/08/12 04:38 AM

Thought experiment: If one party isn't responsible for their actions while drunk, then drunk driving laws should be abolished.
/r/MensRights14/08/12 02:42 PM
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Interval training is a fantastic way to lose weight. It works with sprinting as well as with weights!
/r/MensRights12/08/12 03:50 PM

MENERGY!
/r/MensRights09/08/12 06:17 PM

I think the discussion is relevant here because, in the episodes, false allegations are shown to be used as tools of manipulation and threat, which many people may not be used to. If MRAs want people comfortable with the idea that false allegations occur, then having them shown on a popular TV is a some kind of starting point.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:33 PM
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I've seen perfect condom use have a 2% failure rate over a year.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 06:03 PM
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Yeah, I thought that was the whole point.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 08:42 PM
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I thought the article was supposed to be a sort of back-handed criticism of Ledbetter and the like.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 03:04 AM
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Damn, that is horrible. I'm raging just from reading that. Don't let it get you down, though.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 02:15 PM
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It didn't have one, I think they just wrote it themselves!
/r/MensRights10/02/12 01:30 PM
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There are times I can't watch TV because the dudes in the shows are so completely omega. Frustration abounds!
/r/MensRights16/11/11 03:32 AM
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You would think so...
/r/MensRights11/11/11 03:46 PM

Ha, there it was, right at the start. My mistake. Don't couple already do this, though? I had always thought that in marriage, the goal was supposed to be the family. It doesn't matter whose income it is, it's for the family. Both spouses should work hard! If one works hard and provides money, the other works hard to provide direct care to the offspring. They can share and mix and all that good stuff, but if you start purposefully (and with the force of government) removing the group effort of m…
/r/MensRights10/11/11 06:26 PM

They never asked the more important question, "where does the money come from?"
/r/MensRights10/11/11 06:12 PM
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Let people hang out with whomever they wish. If they prefer the company of their own gender, so be it. Perhaps organizing a non-company event on company time and email is not the best way to go about things, but it doesn't show a hatred of the other sex or a removal of their rights.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 06:09 PM
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I think he's just saying, long-windedly, that some people just want to watch the world burn.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 02:59 PM
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Well, I'm convinced.
/r/MensRights17/10/11 11:52 PM
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Thank you for posting this. Do you know where his data is? I'd like to see, or at least make, my own charts about this.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 05:21 PM
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Part of the reason you need 2 incomes is inflation. The federal reserve and government spending really spiked in the early 20th century. This coincides with the same time as women's suffrage, but I wouldn't say the two are correlated.
/r/MensRights26/09/11 04:19 PM
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Am I a hypocrite for being a supporter of mens rights when I'm leaving my father, possibly for another continent? I'd say no, because you aren't the court system or anything like that. You're making your own decisions about your life. Your situation is unfortunate, and my heart goes out to you, but it's your future in your hands. I'm sure your dad will understand the need to stay alive. That way you can certainly see him sometime in the future, as opposed to never again!
/r/MensRights13/06/11 10:16 PM
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Haha, no problem. I tend to rant about statistics, because they are so prone to ease of tailoring of results. At the absolute worst, all this report says is that there are generally more women in lower paying jobs, but when the job is the same, the pay is pretty much the same. That seems to be supported elsewhere, too.
/r/MensRights21/04/11 02:26 AM

Ah, well, there are several reasons. It was a government sponsored survey. Presumably that means that it's trustworthy. While I don't personally make that assumption right off the bat, perhaps feminists (who seek to gain power through government) will have an inherent trust in such a thing. CONSAD has some big name clients. Presumably they would not be selected if they were not trusted. While the report does receive some flak, the rebuttals against said flak appear to make sense. Go to this site…
/r/MensRights21/04/11 02:04 AM
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I haven't even poured through all the little details, but hitting the highlights (the intro and abstract) provides a good summary of the results, and also the factors they left out of the study because they didn't have enough data. Some of those factors include choices based on total compensation (fringe benefits such as health or time off). Considering that the study pulled the gap to within 6% (ish) without accounting for those kinds of choices is also a very powerful statement.
/r/MensRights21/04/11 12:28 AM

Dude, you gotta have this CONSAD study in your back pocket at all times. The abstract alone is enough to shut up their arguments. Download that bad boy for good. Not that what you said wasn't wrong (it was certainly factually accurate), but more info is always better.
/r/MensRights20/04/11 08:42 PM
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It does get tiring to hear about it, but it's important! Why? Because it can and has been used to enforce regulations such as Title IX that alters the freedom people and institutions have. It's not just sports in universities, but it also impacts funding for research, scholarships, and it imparts regulations and quotas. Accurately tracking a wage gap and WHY it happens is critical in reaching any kind of sanity on this issue.
/r/MensRights12/04/11 09:15 PM
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Hahaha, good point!
/r/MensRights12/04/11 01:20 AM
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I agree with you on this. It looks like the data may be from single-parent families. If the single-parent families lean more toward mother only (which I suspect that they do) then the results will have some natural skew. Some normalization to the population size of father or mother only households would be nice.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 02:03 PM
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That's the takeaway it seems to give. If she cheats, it's OK because it's a symbol you messed up. I'm not a big fan of game, but there are times when it makes sense. At least it promotes having self-confidence and not being walked all over.
/r/MensRights11/04/11 01:48 PM
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I thought the main message was about trying to fit to ultra high standards driving people insane. That trying hard to conform to a mold and 'fit in' wasn't without cost.
/r/MensRights02/04/11 05:27 PM
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Way to stick to the facts. Good, concise summary of the obvious truths. Unfortunately, it's painful to change ideologies quickly, and a natural response is to lash back out at what you used to dislike but can no longer find a reason to disagree with. The best thing to do is hold your ground and don't compromise.
/r/MensRights29/03/11 06:07 PM
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That's still law, but yes. Technically it should already exist, since if the kid is not yours, you therefore entered into no actions that made you contractually obligated to take care of the child. That should already fall under basic rule of law about private contracts and enforceability... I hope!
/r/MensRights24/03/11 04:24 PM

You two must be adorable at the reunions
/r/MensRights24/03/11 04:22 PM
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What's your situation? What are you looking for?
/r/MensRights16/03/11 05:22 PM
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I throw a link to this report out whenever I hear people complain about a 'wage gap'. It should add some good statistically sound ammo to your arsenal.
/r/MensRights13/03/11 01:50 PM
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Let me rephrase, because I can see why 'consent' isn't the right term. When two people consent to sex, they acknowledge that parenthood is a potential result. That's the whole point of sex. Since two people consented, together, to perform an action that could result in a child they are bound by that mutual consent to be responsible for the consequences of their actions. That's more of what I was trying to say. Mutual consent to perform an action designed for reproduction while attempting to avoi…
/r/MensRights12/03/11 03:55 PM
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I'm not referring to what is legally recognized. I'm referring to what should be the case, based on what sex is and what having it could bring about. If the current state is that men cannot legally give up fatherhood, then women certainly should not be able to give up motherhood, since they have engaged in the same activity that bound the man to fatherhood. The options for equality are then both can bail out, or both cannot. I believe that both should not be able to abstain from their responsibi…
/r/MensRights11/03/11 04:48 PM

Consent to sex is, tacitly, a consent to fatherhood. Similarly, it is tacit consent to motherhood. Since birth control, etc. is not 100%, then by engaging in sexual activity you are, whether you like it or not, opening yourself up to the chance of becoming a parent. While chances may be very small and conditioned on the acts being performed, they do exist, and must be understood. However, extreme cases where the woman 'cheats' birth control or lies (this subreddit has many examples of this occur…
/r/MensRights11/03/11 02:32 PM
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