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I literally said I’d pay the next time if the guy pays the first time and invited me. Also, you can apply that to almost anything doing with gender. Guys are privileged in many ways, women are in others. It’s life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:22 PM
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Also, you missed the part where I said I’d pay the next time (even before we date).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 12:19 PM
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Yeah, so? People can hope for certain things (just like you may hope a girl pays even if you are willing to pay or split it). Personal preferences. I like traditional dating structure. Some people do, some people don’t. Just ask to split if you don’t really want to pay or go on a free date (beach, museum, park etc.). Not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:29 AM
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I do offer to split every time in the beginning lol. So this doesn’t apply to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 10:38 AM
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The post asked for opinions and that’s my opinion. When I had a bf when it was my idea to go out on a date night I’d pay. I think whoever invites the other should pay. I can’t help if it’s usually guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:53 AM
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Who ever invites the other person should pay imo. If a guy invites me I’d offer to pay half but would hope he pays for it. Then I’d get it next time. As a disclaimer, I don’t expect anything fancy the first date and prefer it wasn’t. Just coffee, maybe some arcade games, etc. I’d be fine with just a walk too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:14 AM
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I think people mostly say this about people who want to date a specific race outside their own due to a belief in/desire for certain stereotypes I.e. white men who solely seek Asian women because they want a submissive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 06:08 PM
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Yeah, I think it’s a huge problem on both sides. I’ve heard the gay comment a lot when a guy doesn’t want to just jump the bones of whichever girl is willing especially if she is somewhat attractive. And on the reverse, I have heard so many comments/jabs from guys who think that a non “Stacy” girl should inherently be grateful someone is even showing interest in her when she is hit on or harassed or wanted for sex (a lot on this sub specifically, but I don’t necessarily think the sub accurately …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:44 AM
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So if he would’ve met her online that would’ve gotten rid of the abuse and psychopathy? Going online doesn’t solve anything, OLD or being in person had nothing to do with that case. OLD isn’t the only route
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:14 PM
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He said “reject”, not creepy. Of course women are more likely to reject ugly/average dudes just like men are likely to do the same for women. Doesn’t mean they find those less attractive people creepy. There’s a difference between not being interested in someone and thinking they’re creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:49 AM
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Let me rephrase: I don’t know a single woman who thinks/believes OLD is the only acceptable place to be asked out or hit on
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:31 AM
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Hundreds of comments from women online is still not real life. Again, I think the worst of society is amplified on the internet. If you don’t agree, I can’t make you. But I’ve never heard a single woman say the only acceptable space is online lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:15 AM
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Okay, so you say OLD is safer for both women and men. If anything, it’s just women pushing for OLD, not “feminists”. There is nothing exclusively feminist about wanting to feel safe for either men or women. And Plenty of women still get hit on irl and meet their partner that way, so your assertion that OLD is the only dating route is still a big exaggeration. If you can’t find an appropriate place to hit on a woman (and there’s plenty) then that’s on you. It’s not the magical “feminist agenda’s”…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:47 AM
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Yeah, some women/people suck and have egos. It has nothing to do with feminism moving dating to online. Plenty of people still meet others irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:33 AM
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Passive aggressive is not the same as being dangerous enough to shift dating to an online format which, again, still doesn’t even make sense because even if you meet online what’s preventing the same women from doing the same thing once you meet up? Doesn’t make sense Edit: you’re going off topic. The point is feminism is not responsible for the shift of dating to an online format. And what’s women accepting behavior from more attractive men they otherwise wouldn’t be okay with got to do with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 12:28 AM
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I never said you wouldn’t get your feelings hurt, but she didn’t turn you into the police or put up your pictures online did she? Edit: also don’t know what her level of fitness has to do with her response? Do you think she should have been grateful or something because she’s average?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:56 PM
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Social media is not real life. The worst of society and those in it is amplified online
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:38 PM
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I don’t think it’s black and white. If you look okay bald, you can make up for it. If you look outright horrific, you probably can’t. Like with weight on a woman - a little bit of extra pounds, most men can look past for a great personality. If she’s outright obese, not so much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:37 PM
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No, you made the claim that feminist are making OLD the only option which simply isn’t true. Even if they’re causing unique problems, that doesn’t affect OLD because people on OLD are still going to meet up in real life eventually? So your point is redundant. And most women aren’t behaving like your example. Plenty of people still meet/date in real life. You just aren’t one of them then Edit: even if the believe all women is leading to a lot of these instances (which I don’t agree with at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:09 PM
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I’m not going to take your one specific instance at face value. I said “almost no woman”. Your one example which seems fishy if I’m being honest (at least in the way you described it to happen) is still not enough to support your original statement. Feminists are not responsible for making OLD “the only option” and OLD is definitely not even the only option. If you think it is, I can’t help but feel you don’t know how to socialize properly or interact with others? Most people I know definitely s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:26 PM
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Anyone who uses OLD is what’s contributing to it becoming a bigger option. “Feminists” aren’t the problem. Even if feminists do create unique problems, moving things online wouldn’t change it. I mean, you’re gonna meet up in person eventually anyway? (If you make a plan to do so). Have you ever met someone in class? At the grocery store? At the park? There’s literally nothing creepy about “hey, I think you’re cute. I was wondering if I could have your number?” I can guarantee almost no woman wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:53 PM
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This girl is not representative of most women. I’ve seen some of her other posts and she definitely is on the extreme end of gender theory/beliefs (whatever you call them)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:28 PM
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I’m not sure, it’d just depend on who you’re around. I don’t think anyone has those statistics. And it does suck, but I genuinely believe you’ll be okay. Just work on what you can and own what you can’t 👍 charisma and confidence go a long way especially for men Edit: and eventually, many more of your peers will be right there alongside you. It’ll just take a little longer for them to get there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 06:02 PM
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I'd say it's probably a dealbreaker for most young women who are at least somewhat conventionally attractive. But you can make up for it in other areas. It's not the end all be all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:48 PM
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I second this. I was actually going to add another edit. If you possess a trait not conventionally attractive but own it, it can make you even more attractive imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:59 AM
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Almost always. *However*, I actually think it's kind of a good thing you're bald now. Women will know what you look like bald. They can take it or leave it. The type of guys I've always been inclined to avoid are the ones that are in the process of going bald (who don't have their heads shave) or men with baldness running in the family because I don't know what they'll look like bald when they eventually go bald when they're older. I'd rather just know now and decide for myself than take a gambl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:52 AM
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I socialize plenty, and I still stand by my comment. Maybe it's not true for others, but it's true for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 05:17 PM
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No, because most men (and women) I know in real life don't behave the way their gender is often talked about on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:21 PM
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no, unless the woman is crazy or stupid edit: to be clear he is free to want this woman, but the chances are highly unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:59 PM
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There are definitely muscular vegans out there with no excess estrogen, and tofu isn't the only source of protein lol. Either way, lean muscular vegan males do exist. I don't know why you're trying to argue on a hypothetical post that asks for my ideal man lmao Edit: I'd be even more attracted if a guy had to put in a little more effort regarding his diet to help save the animals and look good doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:31 PM
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There's no hormonal effect on men unless you're consuming excessive amounts. And there's plenty of muscular vegan men, and my type isn't super ripped anyway. Just lean muscular, I'm not interested in any hulk. And being vegan has nothing to do with losing weight lol? You can be overweight and vegan just as you can when you eat meat. Exercise can't make up for a shitty diet (and shitty vegan diets exist). If you're really interested in the subject, you can look up videos of fitness instructors wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:50 PM
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I already addressed the kids thing. And muscular vegans exist lol. People who don't think so can't see past the soyboy trope
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:23 AM
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What do you mean by professional dress code? Jut curious. Like dresses like she's at a business meeting all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:33 AM
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haha my bad. I wasn't trying to mess with you lol. I don't want kids, but still want a taller guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:22 PM
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Yeah, if they want one. I could see my life both with kids and without. I guess ideally they wouldn't want kids. I'd still prefer taller if they didn't, but would care less Edit: tbf I don't really care now, it's just if I could pick and choose a man in a hypothetical situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:17 PM
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oh lol yeah. It's like a 99% chance I don't, but I wouldn't be opposed if I could get a surrogate. Edit: maybe more like 95% but yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 09:07 PM
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Maybe next summer..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:12 PM
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But as a serious answer - Physical: 25, 6'2-6'4 (so if I have kids they have a better chance at sports), strong jawline, pretty eyes and smile, proportional, thick hair (especially on head), no facial hair and minimal hair naturally on chest/back, muscular but lean Lifestyle: fairly active (but nothing crazy), loves to travel/go on adventures, has hobbies and a good friend group, vegan. Drinks socially, and some drug use is ok (ecstasy every once in awhile? idk). Intelligent, romantic, financial…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:27 PM
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April Ludgate's dream man - Yao Ming's torso, Napoleon's brain, and the Hunchback of Notre Dame's hunchback
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:21 PM
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I didn't say there wasn't, simply that switching out someone for someone higher value is still hypergamy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:37 AM
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I don't agree a woman wouldn't be happy. Maybe if there were only 3 guys in the room, but it'd be the same for guys I think. And switching out an older woman for a younger, prettier one is still hypergamy even if the girl isn't the prettiest in the room
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:05 PM
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That's your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 09:04 PM
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Aha why? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:27 PM
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I don't agree there's no replacing going on in the "fuckable" threshold. And I think hypergamy in men does include the wall. You're still going after the "better option", so it's still hypergamy. If every man going after younger women was actually trying to reproduce, then I would say okay yeah since being post-wall really does matter then. But they're most often not, and women post wall can still have and enjoy sex, so it's still a matter of trading in a lower SMV for a higher one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:21 PM
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Interesting, most of my friends aren't interested in younger, but I know there are definitely women who are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:14 PM
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I think your last point is valid. But if the men who date younger women regard physical appearance/looks as the primary value of a woman, then going after those women is going after "the best" for them, and therefore, hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:12 PM
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I don't know, men wanting to "collect" women is not better than simply trading up in my opinion. I say this because in both situations, the original partner will probably not be very happy with the change whether it is being broken up with completely or having to share your partner with someone else. I would rather be broken up with than have to share my s/o
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:10 PM
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Well, no because I don't agree that that belief is founded. Men and women are both relatively able and have been able to pursue their own interests in the modern world. My point is that a lot of people of both gender are hypocrites, and that if you dislike one, you should dislike the other. If that type of men's behavior is a response to women following their interests, then following that logic, women beginning to pursue their interests was also just a response to being oppressed historically (…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:07 PM
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Morality is not my focus though. My point is that both behaviors are simply similar in that they involve trading someone with a lower SMV for someone with a higher one. The motivation behind the actions are similar. To have a "higher quality" person replace a lower quality s/o
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:08 AM
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They have no reason to lie to me and are pretty good friends. Other reasons (at least for guys in the 40-60 range) that I've heard is that older men can feel weirded out if they have a child your age or older. (Conversely, other guys get weirdly turned on by that). Most of the older successful men I know, including those in my family, date women in their own age bracket. Not that there haven't been the ones who did go after younger women though. This is just my experience, but teens and young 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 05:03 AM
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I had to reread his whole post again because I thought maybe I got it wrong and he was trying to help prove/support your point, but no, he actually was trying to contradict it. People really think $60k is enough to get hot 20/30 year olds suddenly interested lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:20 AM
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That's a good point, but there are many men who are looking to swap whether they're red pill or not. And I don't necessarily agree with your statement on polygamy for women. There are women genuinely in relationships with 2 men for an extended period of time, though I don't think think it's as common as trying to switch up. Regarding harems, maybe individuals wouldn't be switched out on the daily/monthly but the whole lot was often replaced every few years (not at like the same time, but gradual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 03:07 AM
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Yeah, I get that. I was just saying if you look back at history, both have existed for a long time so it's short sighted to think that hypergamy came before or use that as a reason to justify that behavior. I also get that that is the reasoning behind many men's motivation for trading in so to speak. But, just because you have a certain view/preconceived notion (for men or women), it doesn't mean that the hypocrisy isn't there or that you're justification for doing something isn't faulty/wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:58 AM
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I don't think I'm projecting as I'm just restating what I've often come across on this forum and theredpill. And I don't think polygamy and harems contradicts anything I've said. Women can be polygamous too, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:54 AM
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Generally, yes, but I also know quite a few older, successful men who aren't interested in young girls in their teens or 20s due to the difference in life experiences and mental maturity. I agree SMV does start to decrease at that age, but not to the extent a lot of people seem to think it does (considering you take care of yourself and don't become abhorrent). I also don't think hypergamy entails cheating. Men should be shamed for cheating. Everyone should be shamed for cheating. I wouldn't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:46 AM
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I don't think it's about chicken or the egg, and broad, strict generalizations of an entire group of people are almost always tacky imo. There will always be people of both genders who will try and be willing to continuously trade up. Even if it was a chicken or the egg situation, take a look at history. The pattern of men continuously trading up, simply because they had the ability too, is apparent. And hypergamy in history is very apparent too. Though historically, marrying up was often women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:32 AM
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Yeah, I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:23 AM
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Glad to hear it. I also have no intention to trade up. I think humans in general would fare better if we quit feeling the desire to continuously upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:20 AM
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I don't know if I'd agree with that. Women's value decreases, yes, but so do most men's. Less than 10% (if i remember correctly) make above 100k (therefore increasing their SMV) and even 100k isn't usually enough to compensate for being like 40 or 45+ (depending on how young/hot of a woman you want). That is, unless you're still very attractive. Of course, if you're younger and making that much then for sure. But I think men get upset that they usually don't have as often of an opportunity to tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 02:18 AM
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