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I was under the impression this sub discourages giving wife privileges to boyfriends?
/r/RedPillWomen17/12/24 01:57 AM
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We have talked about it. He knows, and has always known, that I intend to be married, ideally to him. He knows that the time he has allowed to pass has given me some concerns about his commitment and intentions. And as I said, what I'm doing here is not really some kind of strategy. I just cannot sink my energy into a marriage that might be. That effort has to be saved for a marriage that actually is. Until he chooses to make me his wife, I have to tend to my own business. Makes me really sad, b…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 06:40 PM
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We don't really fight, although we have had a couple of days of tension over this issue. I have been in his kids' lives for a little over a year now and we get along well. I hope it does happen soon, as it stands I find the job of girlfriend to be tedious and labor intensive. Always trying to make sure I'm not crossing the lines even though I want to. Always trying to figure out where we're staying, what we're doing, how to coordinate schedules. Part of why I've always been bad to move too quick…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 04:32 PM
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It feels like the advice to us as women is very conflicted. For instance, I’m making it transactional…but the whole premise of red pill is in terms of a “marketplace.” Both sides are taught strategy. If we give “husband privileges” as girlfriends, he will become complacent and have no reason to increase the commitment…but if we don’t give that, we’re not someone worth proposing marriage to. So…what is the correct logic? And how far does it go? Are we now advised to live with him before marriage …
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 02:20 PM
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That is correct and what I intend to do. This post however was about learning to understand the appropriate behavior of a girlfriend versus a wife.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 02:04 PM
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He has kids already and does not want more. My fertility is challenged and at my age I don’t want to deal with what I would need to do to have them. That’s fine if he doesn’t want to get married, I’m sure there are women who would just play house with him indefinitely. I’ve made it clear I am not one of those women.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 01:32 PM
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Relationships always involve sacrifice. It’s not automatically a bad thing. And I’ve never suggested to him that he’s done anything wrong. However, I do believe that sacrifices (or investments whatever you want to call them), should be in alignment with whatever level of commitment you’re at.I’m not his wife yet, I’m trying to be careful that I’m not operating in that role. When I say evenings where nothing is planned, I mean outings. I would love an evening home alone, but my boyfriend seems co…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 01:28 PM
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The timeline thing is also something that’s always baffled me. How does one do this? What’s the criteria? I’m 38 and not planning to have children, but I still don’t want to waste any time on a guy who’s not excited enough about me to want to make things official. So…a year? 2 years? We’ve had the marriage talk and he tells me he wants to spend his life with me…but also that we’re still getting to know each other…I’m trying to figure out how to impress upon him that I won’t wait forever, without…
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 10:34 AM
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Ohh yes. I’ve done all that 😂 He loves to talk about things we’ll do in the future, I always just smile and say “that sounds lovely, I hope we get there one day.” Etc etc. He picks up what I’m putting down, just hasn’t moved us along yet.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 03:48 AM
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Future husband. I’m not considering doing anything drastic, or anything that would come off as punishing. It just makes me feel sad to make sacrifices of time and energy that are out of alignment with the stage of commitment we’re at.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/24 03:17 AM
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I think that’s the main thing, me staying over there too much. He acts so hurt and confused when I don’t want to stay, so that makes it hard to hold that boundary. Especially when I don’t have anything going on that evening.
/r/RedPillWomen10/12/24 08:04 PM
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I should update this post because I’ve essentially done the experiment and here’s how it went: I offered a compromise. Live together 6 months but I keep my place and pay no bills at his, and no matter how things are going after 6 months I move back out. Don’t you know, after months of him talking marriage, the week before I was supposed to move out he’s “not ready to get married.” After both of us acknowledging what a good experience living together had been. It ain’t funny but I might as well l…
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/24 11:33 AM
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Ugh. This is why I’m against cohabitating before marriage. So complicated.
/r/RedPillWomen15/04/24 07:32 PM
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I was just planning to give him money, how he used it was his business
/r/RedPillWomen12/04/24 01:11 PM
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If I move in with him, I adopt a 40 minute commute. My lifestyle changes. I have to share a space and decisions with someone. All of which I have no problem with, when it’s someone who’s willing to offer some security. His life changes not at all except he also shares a space, but he gets passive income from me paying him rent (my financial situation doesn’t improve) and he gets help cooking, cleaning, minding kids.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 11:33 PM
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When I rent and my name is on the lease, I have a right to the property. There is an understanding that I won’t be homeless just because my landlord doesn’t like how I load the dishwasher. And if my landlord kicks me out I don’t have to live with someone who has rejected me AND kicked me out. When I rent, I’m not actively helping someone fix up a place, only to be turned away from it in the end. I’m sorry I don’t understand why this is hard to wrap your head around? You’re in the minority in tha…
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 11:28 PM
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I haven’t already made up my mind. That’s why I’m asking for advice. When I ask for elaboration from people with different views from me, it’s because I’m trying to make sure I’ve seen the point. I don’t automatically understand (obviously, or I wouldn’t be asking) so I’m clarifying. He and I are not buying a house together. My name won’t be anywhere on that house. Moving in adds a 40 minute commute to my day. He will get the benefit of someone to share chores and childcare. I will now have addi…
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 09:30 PM
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I get why some people feel it’s logical to live together before marriage. Try before you buy. The problem is, people aren’t cars or Netflix subscriptions. It’s insulting to treat us like that, but more importantly we’re highly dynamic. The man he is in the year or so of cohabitating may not be the man he is when his testosterone starts to dip, or after his mother dies, or when he changes careers. So what is the point?
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 03:44 PM
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So you would move in with him, but not pay any bills?
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 03:41 PM
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I don’t really view wife privileges as the cooking and cleaning stuff. I mean the companionship, the sacrifices, the plans. The changes to the structure of my life without the coverage of marriage. We’re building a life together, but separately?
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 03:40 PM
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I do have reservations, but he has needs too and I’m trying to compromise. And I didn’t say he would say anything. I said they would. Men. Most of our strategy in dating revolves around the fact that their words are kind of frail.
/r/RedPillWomen10/04/24 12:04 PM
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Yeah. We had a hard conversation about it last night and now I’m really questioning his intentions for me. Apparently my putting a timeframe on it hurt him. He said it made him feel like I wasn’t enthusiastic about living with him.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/24 04:42 PM
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He is divorced, yes. I had my attorney check on it.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/24 03:54 PM
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I can’t have babies. And it feels pathetic to me to plan a wedding when there hasn’t even been a proposal.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/24 12:00 PM
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No common law in my state
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/24 11:58 AM
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He did not intentionally mislead me about being divorced. I believe him on that. Yes, his ex is drama on a very bizarre level. His kids don’t live with him full-time, but he has them every weekend. I love them I don’t mind helping with them at all. Ditto his parents. I would be contributing to the mortgage, but it wouldn’t give me any stake in the house. My name isn’t and wouldn’t be anywhere on the house he “bought for us.”
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/24 09:41 AM
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I actually had this same idea, lol. He kind of took it as me being unenthusiastic about living with him.
/r/RedPillWomen09/04/24 09:33 AM
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I think that’s what premarital counseling is for. And I’m all about that. Nothing in a year of living together will prepare us for aging together. For getting rich together, or poor. Or really sick. Or watching each other lose parents or pets or god forbid kids. What exactly am I meant to learn from a little snapshot of playing house? Not to mention it’s marriage “lite.” He might be a totally different person once there’s a legal commitment in place.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 10:31 PM
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I guess I don’t entirely see the logic of this. To me, you’d have to live a lifetime with someone to be truly prepared for what’s to come. People change. Sometimes marriage itself changes people. So what is the purpose of living together first?
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 09:34 PM
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And here’s why I’m not sure whether to live together first or not lol
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 08:41 PM
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What about “don’t give a boyfriend husband privileges?”
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 08:40 PM
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Let me ask you this. Did y’all move in together? Or did you move into his house? In my situation, if we live together, I will be giving up my rental to move in with him where I have no claim to the house that he owns. It makes me very, very nervous. The thought of putting so much care and time into a home that isn’t really mine. Even if his intentions are what he claims they are, what if (god forbid) something happened? I have no right to go on living there. I lose the man I love and am rendered…
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 07:40 PM
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Oh. Well, yes. He does do those things. But so have others, and they proved less trustworthy on the big stuff.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 07:31 PM
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That’s exactly the question I’m asking myself. I just don’t know how to answer it. For most of my life I was laid back about the subject. Zero objection to living together. Then after getting strung along twice I started to rethink my values. But obviously I’m not fully in one camp or another yet, still collecting opinions and perspectives.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 07:31 PM
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I’ve watched that video before, it’s a good one
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:51 PM
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Thank you. This is how I feel about it too. But there is so much chatter about it being a good and logical idea.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:51 PM
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He already has two children and doesn’t want more, and I can’t have them anyway. But we’re very much aligned in values in most other ways. He considers this the step between dating and marriage. I don’t. And I’m becoming more reinforced in that position.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:50 PM
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I think so? I haven’t seen him tested much, that way
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:42 PM
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What are “husband duties,” in y’all’s case? If you don’t mine my asking
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:42 PM
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That’s my instinct too but I can’t not hear all the arguments FOR living together. Plus the folks who say my fears are baseless. Gahhh what to do 😫
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:11 PM
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How do you know if you’re on track? I keep hearing horror stories about women whose partners promised them marriage and it just sort of…never happened
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:10 PM
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How does one “know?” Just because he promises?
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 06:10 PM
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How can you know “for sure?” They’ll say anything to get what they want.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 05:47 PM
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That’s how I’ve been up until now, but then he asked and seems confused by my reservations. Plus we live 40 minutes apart and this going back and forth is getting pretty exhausting. Edit to add: I don’t think you’re a hypocrite. Or if you are, so am I. I think we both lived to see the error of our ways. I also think that the “logic” of living together before marriage is flawed. You’d have to live a whole lifetime with someone to be truly prepared for living together.
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 05:45 PM
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How do you structure it? Like, are you acting married? Washing his dirty underwear etc? Or acting like roommates? Everything 50/50. Also what do you do if a couple years down the road there’s no proposal?
/r/RedPillWomen08/04/24 05:43 PM
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Was he around before you “bloomed?” He may feel threatened by your improved appearance and this is his way of keeping your attention on him. It’s childish but common
/r/RedPillWomen30/11/23 09:46 PM
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No you’re right, it’s inside me. That’s why I came here before bringing anything up with him. He has no clue I’m even having any struggle, apart from what we’ve sort of joked about. I’ve always found the messages directed at women around sex to be very confusing, so I wasn’t sure if I should feel shame or concern or what
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/23 11:53 AM
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Lol! Fair enough. And for the record, I have not been withholding sex. I don’t want to, I was just trying to figure out whether it would be good for us. Apparently, and emphatically, not so much. I’m glad to hear that because I’ve never liked the concept of sex as currency.
/r/RedPillWomen06/04/23 12:19 AM
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I don't not enjoy the experience. I was just worried that being too hasty or seeming eager had set a poor tone that there was no way to overcome. The other posters here seem to think otherwise, though.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 08:11 PM
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I've lightly and playfully broached the topic with him and he does the same teasing/reassuring move. I worried it was just to pacify me but, maybe not. Lol and don't worry, my heart's in it, I just wasn't sure if I needed to override my want (like I feel I should have back then).
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 08:09 PM
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Good advice, I really appreciate it. I'm still new to this and not completely sure how to interpret the information. Until today it seemed like a pretty all or nothing approach to dating.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 08:08 PM
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That's really interesting, I appreciate you being so thorough. I'm still in the "oh god I've been doing everything wrong" phase of this transition, it seems.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 08:06 PM
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Truth. I'll keep repeating this to myself, thank you.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 08:05 PM
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I appreciate that you have a strong conviction around this. I have one or two other questions, may I PM you?
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 03:37 PM
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We call each other boyfriend/girlfriend, yes. We don’t talk very definitively about the future but it feels like it’s still early for that under any circumstances.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 03:36 PM
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Yeah my instinct was to tell him the next day that it was too soon, but I let my mom convince me that it would give him performance insecurities. Oh well.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 03:35 PM
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Hmm. I hear you but everybody else that’s responding is saying the opposite…could you expand a little on your opinion?
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 03:34 PM
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Thank you. I’m glad I haven’t let on to him that this is bugging me. I think it’s a mistake I just have to grieve privately, and do the best I can to be “relationship material” in other ways.
/r/RedPillWomen05/04/23 03:29 PM
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Thank you for sharing that. The guys getting into this mindset have no idea how they’re about to waste their own time, and ultimately just hurt themselves.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 12:38 PM
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“Educated beyond your intelligence.” That is a sick burn. And so versatile 😈
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/11/21 12:16 PM
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🚩 🚩 🚩 Run run run!!
/r/ExRedPill11/11/21 06:31 PM
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I am speechless with horror. NEXT!!
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy22/10/21 03:10 AM
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The whole premise of the movie and the “movement,” is that the red pill offers the “truth.” Except that in the movie there is an absolute truth, that the robots enslaved the humans. The Red Pill “movement” claims to offer the same kind of hard truth but fails horribly to account for the fact that human relationships are never absolute, but are instead very messy, complicated, and totally unpredictable. Not to mention the “rules” are arbitrary and constantly changing.
/r/ExRedPill03/07/21 12:00 PM
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Or, both sides think they want someone with superficial attributes, and don’t realize that they’re prioritizing that over character, substance, and loyalty. If they had an honest conversation with themselves they’d realize that having a “hot” partner isn’t what actually makes them long-term happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 03:31 PM
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I find when I’m trying to step away from a destructive mindset it helps to first lean into it. Not in an effort to accept it, just in order to understand it and trace it back to its roots. Just as many of the RP guys tend to come to their belief systems via a hurtful interaction with a woman, maybe for you this comes down to something in your personal past? Or a generalized fear? I’m also a woman, and it is easy to slip off into overgeneralization as a means of protecting oneself (bc most rapist…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 11:49 AM
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Don’t forget the double standard of “women are too picky (the only explanation for why I’m single!)” but also “she’s a single mom? She should have VETTED harder and had higher STANDARDS!”
/r/ExRedPill19/03/21 11:40 AM
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This this this. RP’s and other extremists walk around with megaphones, meanwhile sane, normal people are just living their lives. So it’s tempting to deduce that the crazies are becoming the majority; in reality they’re just louder.
/r/ExRedPill07/03/21 06:04 PM
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Got deleted before I had time to edit. Oh well it was fun while it lasted. Thanks for the heads up I’ll remember for the future
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy16/02/21 02:13 PM
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I must confess that is one of the most effectively constructed passive aggressive comments I’ve seen. Being around you IRL must be a kind of hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:28 PM
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I’m referring more to when you give one guy your best years and then he leaves you for a younger model
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 12:57 PM
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Until we age. After about 35 most of us should just shoot ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 11:22 AM
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I don’t mind ignoring individual ones. It’s kind of interesting, actually. Like seeing the results of an experiment, to see how many rain in with the usual schoolyard insults. They’re proving my point without even realizing it. Edit: well, Pauline’s point ;)
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/21 05:42 PM
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The overall gist is that we should just go ahead and acknowledge that while we definitely like and love individual men, men overall are still getting away with murder, metaphorically and often literally. See: the ongoing rate of male-on-female violence, the double standards that just won’t die, the boys clubs, the pay gap, the fact that we’re still expected to manage the entire domestic arrangement while they think they deserve a trophy for loading the dishwasher. And will cite the absence of pr…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/21 05:38 PM
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It’s out! Published 1/19. I listened to it on Audible.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/02/21 01:59 AM
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WHERE WERE YOU when I started dating?!? Teach a class NOW. I dated a man who had a toilet that quit working and he KEPT USING IT. Guess how long it took me to hate him when we moved in together. My husband eats like Kevin on his own in Home Alone. Guess who’s gaining weight just from being in his gravitational pull. This attitude isn’t petty, it’s practical. We’ve GOT to quit romanticizing these huge differences in values. Love does not conquer all.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy29/01/21 10:57 PM
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Jesus. That is sad as hell. I’m sorry you got tangled up with someone so broken. All I can say is again, please try not to take it personally. All this “alpha male” garbage works for only a very small portion of the population. And tbh I can’t imagine it providing for a very happy life. You’re much better off looking for a community and romantic partner that you jive with and enjoy, and feel safe around. Not a group/person who makes you feel like you have to live up to an arbitrary set of “rules…
/r/ExRedPill12/01/21 06:10 PM
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Idk why no one has said this, but consider the source here. There’s a lot wrong with your ex, please do NOT take her word on what the “reality” is on romantic relationships. I don’t care how “alpha” you make yourself, she’s a controlling manipulative liar because...she’s a controlling manipulative liar. You dodged a bullet there, just take what you learned and move on. Look for someone who appreciates you as a person (and vice versa) and not because of your place in a made up system that’s highl…
/r/ExRedPill12/01/21 12:11 AM
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No I don’t mean that. I find MGTOW to be a generally bitter movement and much of what I read makes me really sad for men. Many women (including myself) want and value relationships with men and want a monogamous partnership. I just mean conversationally that many women do fine on their own.
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 02:25 PM
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That used to be the case, but as our culture matures and women move away from true or perceived dependence on men, they are finding that they can also be self sufficient, and friends and family and the occasional romantic encounter do plenty to satisfy their needs for community. Add to that that women can now have children without men, and it’s becoming more normalized. It’s long been documented that men are physically healthier when married and women are physically healthier when single, now th…
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 02:09 PM
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A quick google search suggests that women do better living alone, and that women actually feel lonelier when married than when single. For instance
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 09:13 PM
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"you have no idea what these people look like unless they have pics on their profiles" You're right. I assumed that someone who seemed bitter and refers to "Chads" without including themselves in that category is (or at least feels) that they are not, in fact, a "Chad." "in the end everyone is fucking shallow as fucking shit" Fundamentally untrue. But really, we all know that. We're just biologically engineered to inflate our negative experiences and minimize anything that refutes confirmation b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 09:16 PM
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Furthermore, you fellas would have a lot more luck if you would take your own advice and look for someone in your own “looksmatch,” but no, you need the validation of having a 10 on your arm and reject girls who are less than. Many times you’re as bad as or worse than the “Chads,” because you’ll use the less attractive girls the same way but then reject them and whine that you’re alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:35 PM
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If we buy into the theory that looks have intrinsic value and can be measured on a scale of 1-10, what you’re claiming is that only men who register higher than say a 7 say and do manipulative things to get women into bed. This is very much not the case. Men of all degrees of physical attractiveness do this, with zero regard for whether their behavior might be misleading. Whether some guys have more luck is irrelevant, my point still stands: men must endure being rejected immediately, women must…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 06:31 PM
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I would argue that this makes it worse. Women want relationships and have no reliable means by which to measure whether a man is truly interested, because guys will do what they need to do to get laid, with no scruples about misleading behavior in the process. So many women are in a constant cycle of “is this love?” It sucks to never even get through the door, but I would rather be rejected before attachment forms, the way men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 01:30 PM
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Ok first of all, this doesn’t apply to “women.” MOST women are horrified and repulsed by these men. Terrified that they will encounter someone similar. Certainly don’t want one climbing into their bed. What RP understands and preys on is the fact that a lot of women were abused, attacked, have mental illness and/or low self esteem. Treating these women like garbage doesn’t make them feel good, but it’s sadly familiar and gives them a sense that they’re getting what they deserve. That’s why RP ha…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/20 12:47 PM
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My 70 year old mom just got a boyfriend and he is the love of her life. He feels the same about her. 31 is not too old especially if you take good care of yourself. Get away from this guy, he’s mean to you. He’s not going to change, and your true match is out there lonely.
/r/RedPillWives11/10/20 12:01 PM
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Same. I’m even engaged to be married and sometimes I’m like “yeah but he’ll just get rid of me once I turn however-old.” I just try to focus on the couples in my real life who have been married a long time and he is obviously still into her.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/20 11:17 PM
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I mistrust attractive and unattractive men equally when they have this belief system. Anyone who believes that love is transactional and human value is measurable (by looks no less, how sad) will abandon a woman the minute they get a better offer. And a “better” offer does not mean kinder, more fun to be around, more mature, or anything of actual substance. It just means younger and/or prettier. So abandonment is guaranteed, that woman will always be out there. If you don’t want to get vetted ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 02:57 PM
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I think men mostly judge themselves for their performance. Women, especially women with experience, know that bodies are unreliable and won’t make fun of a guy for not getting hard or whatever. Plus they know every sexual encounter will be different, and don’t expect them to all look like a Nicholas Sparks movie. And I do feel like women are judged on performance. There’s even a word for when we don’t put in any effort, the dreaded “starfish.” Not to mention all our body insecurities. Am I too h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:25 PM
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Huh? I thought he was uncomfortable bc he’s a Brit trying to comment on American politics...?
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 09:44 PM
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Yes and then if they get one they don’t hold up their end. You don’t get to run around on her or treat her like she doesn’t pull her weight just bc she doesn’t punch a time clock
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 06:53 PM
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Men: not all men. Men to their daughters: all men. Every single one of them.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy19/09/20 06:28 PM
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I think RP claim this about women’s standards because so few of them actually know many normal women. Most of the women I know are just amazed if he’s employed, more or less looks after his health, and isn’t a philandering asshole. I wouldn’t know what to do with a man who willingly-dare I say voluntarily-participated in housework. They’re that rare. Are those standards too high? And of course, it goes both ways. Most women in the west feel like the standards applied to them are impossible and o…
/r/ExRedPill19/09/20 06:21 PM
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I’ve commented “excuse me where tf is the vitriol for the absentee fathers??” when some RP hairlip tries to diss single moms. I’d get me a gumball. Extra bonus nickels for when the response is “she should have vetted better.” Face->wall, repeat.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy17/09/20 08:58 PM
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Huh. Interesting. Meanwhile it leaves sort of a grey area...one man’s “some experience” is another man’s “promiscuous” and vice versa. I’m with you RE experience though. I know my bf has been in love before (I mean he’s 40 how could he not) but I’m actually relieved rather than intimidated. Experience means he’s realistic about what relationships are for, how they feel. He knows what degree of work he’s willing to put in, and what he’s looking for. I actually feel more secure than I would if he …
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 08:51 PM
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So previous partners are like...the guy she cheated on you with? But before she knew you or committed to you?
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 05:46 PM
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In our culture that encourages women’s liberation, I think there are a lot of young women who think they’re “supposed” to live that way, and it takes a little while to realize it doesn’t actually line up with their personal values. So if your prospect had (as my bf does) a busy past, but it was a decade or more ago, would you feel the same? I think I agree that anyone, male or female, who is currently sleeping around is not ready for commitment. But my confusion has always been about the guys wh…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 03:19 PM
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But...why does it bother anybody? I get that it produces a reaction, but what’s the problem, truly? My bf was a bartender for 10 years, ending about 15 years ago. He took home so many girls it almost ruined sex for him. The last part makes feel sad for him, but the n-count is just not really relevant or interesting. I’ve tried but I can’t come up with a logical reason why men struggle with this so much in their female partners. And when I genuinely ask most guys just sneer and/or attack me perso…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 10:42 PM
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I didn’t say anything was “wrong.” OP’s original post was about moving away from RP ideology, and the attitude that only men are allowed to enjoy sex (and women are judged by their “n-count”) is foundational to the RP universe. It is also hypocritical, since the men are encouraged to pad their “n-count.” All I did was encourage OP to practice introspection while he moves away from an old set of values. If you want to make someone’s past a reason for rejecting them, go for it. No need to be defen…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/20 01:40 PM
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Sure, absolutely. I’m just a fan of introspection, and especially since you’re trying to move away from a toxic mindset, it might help for a while to examine the foundation of some of your preferences. You might pass up someone amazing just because your old belief system would have you reject her over her past.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 04:25 PM
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You’re going to have to give it some time. If you were living that life for 2 years, the majority of your social base is going to be those people. And you may need to calm down with the judgement, that sounds like a RP holdover.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/20 12:34 PM
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Lol, why? Bc I won’t react to your weak sarcasm? Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 04:26 PM
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Exactly!! Very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 12:09 PM
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Holy crap. Somebody really messed you up. I’m so sorry, but you are all kinds of wrong here. YES, there are women who are as you describe. Men too. But most of us need to grow up in order to appreciate what really matters. Please remember that women were children once, just like men, and children by default have shitty priorities. Just like many men eventually come to realize that a pretty face is not enough, women grow up and realize that good looking men are a dime a dozen, and true substance …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 03:17 AM
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I’m gonna get lost in the comments but I agree enough to post anyway. You’re 100% correct, it’s horrible how we treat people like they’re interchangeable and disposable. And for some ideologies who prefer the term “spinning” over “juggling,” its manipulative, cowardly, and borderline abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:42 PM
1

Pretty sure it is. There’s a very not-yellow drink in his other hand.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy08/07/20 12:47 PM
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I think the yellow was the joke but the orange is “psych, see I do listen I was just funnin”
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/07/20 02:32 AM
14

It appears he has an orange one in the other hand...?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy05/07/20 02:30 AM
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Not me, but it’s what my dad told my mom. Roughly translated, it means “I’m leaving you and the kids for our secretary who’s 13 years younger.” Hope this helps.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/20 07:26 PM
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God, his poor wife. Cancer in 2018 and now about to get tossed out because she’s not new anymore. I hope the good women at red pill women are seeing this; exhibit A for why you can NOT trust a man to look after you. If you don’t get a degree and a good job you are fuuuuuucked.
/r/Divorce_Men17/06/20 02:54 AM
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Missing passion and afraid of being alone. Some of the posts on r/datingover30 really do a lot to reinforce that last one.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy04/06/20 05:00 PM
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Vastly untrue, of course. But I understand it’s easier to think that way. It feels like protecting yourself. But it’s not really and you’re cutting off your nose to spite your face in the long run. Hope you see that before you waste too many years in bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:33 PM
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18 year old women are not children. They are at the prime of their attractiveness Being attractive does not make someone an adult. And being 18 does not make you “at your best.” If physical beauty is all you care about in a girl then your values are as empty as those of the women you’re complaining about. AKA you have nothing to offer to a woman of any value.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:18 PM
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LOL that’s ridiculous. Who has the same taste at 30 they did at 18?? You must not be very old. For most people, men and women alike, it takes time and often pain to make them grow tf up and see what’s actually important. How on earth do you expect an 18 year old girl-still a child in our culture-to have the wherewithal to know what to look for in a partner? She can barely pick out her own toothpaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:47 PM
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You are the type who would leave a woman once she began to age, no matter how much she gave you a the start. It’s pretty clear you think of older women (those at the “finish line”) as lesser quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 08:17 PM
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I’ve made it again at least twice 😃 For some of us the distance between “oh hell no” and “everybody makes mistakes” is VAST
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/05/20 08:36 PM
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I had just started seeing a guy when my 21st birthday rolled around. He was adamant that I not make any plans because he wanted to be the one to take me out. It was on a Saturday so, perfect. The day rolled around and it got to be around 9pm, so finally I called him and was like um? His response: “oh no....I’m so sorry I completely forgot and now I’m in <party town 45 minutes away> with my friend.” I should’ve gone through with dumping him right then, made noises like I was going to, but ultimat…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/05/20 08:05 PM
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I gave up a chance to study abroad in the UK because of a guy. We were together 8 whole months. If I'm being honest though I think he was an excuse. I think I got cold feet last minute and told myself I couldn't do that to him. The fuck is wrong with me.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy25/05/20 03:07 PM
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I keep making the mistake of objecting to the double standard of the whole “n-count” bullshit (mistake because they’re never gonna hear logic) and the inevitable response is “women just don’t want to be held accountable for their actions.” Held accountable? I’m sorry exactly which part of “I had some sex in the past” is a crime?
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/05/20 10:43 AM
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Furthermore why are women “held accountable” for a past sex life? As though it’s a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:37 AM
1

Sigh. No. Translated as “women are given no allowance (as men are) for being young, ignorant, misguided, confused.” It’s assumed that irresponsible, even violent or criminal, behavior in young men is to be expected, but for some reason young women “should have known better.” Why? Women have no special access to premature wisdom. And why is it such an affront to so many men that women have as much interest in sex as they do? Why the insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:15 AM
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Going go get lost in the comments and prob repeating something already said 20 times but here we go: women (in general) have been conditioned to appear to “care less” about sex because we are and always have been punished for having sexual appetites. Now y’all frame it as “it’s just my preference to be with a woman with a low number of previous partners,” but the message is the same. Men can go full throttle but we have to monitor our behavior neurotically or risk our past being weaponized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:14 AM
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Where are these stats? I have never dated a guy more financially well off than me. There was a month or two when my ex got a raise and was making more than me, and it actually made me uncomfortable, motivated me to find another job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:59 AM
2

I see your point but would argue that the man does have the right to “terminate” his impending fatherhood...simply by disappearing. Lots of guys do this.
/r/MensRights25/04/20 04:57 AM
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Oof. Ignorance on the psychological effects of domestic abuse. Embarrassed for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:19 PM
2

Touché
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:18 PM
4

You misspelled “men”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:02 PM
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Lol trust me men are just as much if not more of a burden. How many women have you heard describe that it’s like having an extra child?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 12:00 PM
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Lol thanks I’m well aware that I. HAVE. AGENCY. Calm down! Nobody’s painting anybody as selfless saints. I thought we were having a discourse but you’ve got some strong feelings going on here. If you’ll excuse me I think I’ll see what’s going on elsewhere 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 10:09 PM
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I didn’t say we’re all forced to be housewives, no need to exaggerate. I’m saying that most women grow up watching their moms put their husbands, kids, parents, friends, etc first. And millennials‘ moms dealt with the “second shift.” No one actively directed us to think of ourselves last, it’s just what we always saw. We feel guilty and inexcusably self-indulgent when we don’t pitch in on whatever needs doing. Why do you think there are so many self-help books/sites/whatever directing women to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 08:30 PM
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Even modern women grew up watching the double standard of sluts and stags. Plus women still aren’t directed, the way that men are, how to put themselves and their desires first. You’d be surprised how many 20 and 30 something women have never even asked themselves “what do i want?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 07:55 PM
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Your leader doesn’t think marital rape is a thing. Because a woman signs a contract to provide sex. How’s that for respecting women’s boundaries? Obvious issues with this attitude aside, how does this work if she’s making as much or more money? And where exactly does the fulfilling relationship come in? The first mistake is believing in and participating in the game at all. If you ever truly hope to have companionship worth having, cut this crap. You’re only going to attract damaged, insecure wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:33 AM
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Your experience with girls. TRP is by nature flawed because it is reactive. It appeals to regular guys because dating is hard and it promises a fail-proof system. It’s not much better than a crash diet. And like those it provably does work for a time. But trust me, the only women you snag with this are the women you have such a hard time respecting. They’re damaged and immature. Bc TRP does not teach a meeting of healthy equals on common ground. It promotes the supposed power struggle and teache…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:28 AM
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Just because you know it doesn’t mean she’s reminding you on purpose. Appreciating the value in your partner (and treating them accordingly) is a positive. “Dread” is constantly making someone feel insecure by reminding them of your other options. And it is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 02:23 AM
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That is not what dread means, literally or in the context of TRP. It’s a measure by men to ensure they have the upper hand, because certain kinds of men need to remind themselves that they have options or they get insecure. And it’s not something that actual adults do. What does reminding a woman that you have other options do to make sure you’re the best boyfriend/husband? Nothing. It makes you a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:51 AM
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Women do not become bored by routine. Girls do. Likewise grown men shouldn’t have to resort to such juvenile crap. Dread is not a tool of grownups.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:46 AM
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Manipulative is focusing on your own gains at the cost of your partner’s sense of well-being. It uses ugly methods in an attempt to control someone else. Dread’s sole and stated purpose is to instill dread into the female partner. That is manipulative and abusive. Setting healthy boundaries, on the other hand, is not manipulative. TRP teaches men to set boundaries but does not encourage respecting the boundaries of their female partners. When a woman “steps out of line,” no matter what the circu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 12:30 AM
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I mean, shit-it's right there in the word. DREAD. In what world is a relationship healthy while one person is actively and consciously creating a sense of DREAD in the other? Optimal: you both make each other feel SAFE. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:50 PM
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It is expressly stated in TRP that dread is something used by men, on women. So it is definitely not both parties being emotionally responsible and saying,"we're going to be our best selves and not take each other for granted." Dread is an RP man's strategy for making a woman feel insecure. Give her compliments in the beginning, but not after a while. Make her always wonder if you're losing interest. Remind her that other women are interested in you, make her wonder if you're truly committed. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:44 PM
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In a healthy relationship that is not demonstrated, because it isn't true. In a healthy relationship, the two individuals are important to one another, not interchangeable with whoever is "just beyond the threshold." Dread is manipulative. It says behave like I say or I'll dump you. It is the man constantly reminding the woman that she is nothing to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:40 PM
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Dread is about control. And it's pathetic to have to resort to manipulative games to keep a woman in "her place," as you put it. Jesus, grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:13 PM
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I know I don't need to tell you what a disgusting person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:10 PM
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The "dread game," defined as "intentionally instilling dread in a partner;" allowing a woman to believe you're exclusive when in reality you have many partners (aka "spinning plates"); direct quote from one of TRP's creators Robert Fisher: "Rape isn’t an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really." -wow- ; how TRP "uses its knowledge about women's nature to manipulate their emotions." I could go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:15 PM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:43 PM
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What redpill, female dating strategies, RPW, all these kinds of groups really, are getting right is the parts that can also be called “being an adult and taking responsibility for yourself.” What they get wrong is AKA “feeling entitled and abusing others for your own narcissistic gain.” They all have both sides, cherry picking is advised. Also TRP is training for psychological abuse. They come right out and say it constantly, it’s super gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:03 PM
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Jesus. Do you really think that sounds appealing? Focus all my energy on my looks and live off some guy I feel lukewarm about? Apparently nobody told you, some of us do have dignity and integrity. I’m sorry the whole work hard get rewarded thing hasn’t panned out for you, but give me that opportunity and the freedom that goes with it any day. Also if focusing on your looks and scoring someone else to earn the money sounds so good to you, why not do it? Make yourself a pretty boy and aim for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:16 PM
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Hell yes. And you can be the one to watch helplessly as your youth passes and you therefore become invisible and irrelevant for the majority of your adulthood. A man can always change his cards as long as he’s capable of working. A woman is at the mercy of the hand she’s dealt, no matter how she busts her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:18 PM
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Ohhhh no. Not to hear you weirdos tell it. I don't care if a woman is rail thin, you'll always play the age card or come up with some other impossible standard. I would love if my income, education, and actual contribution to society mattered nearly as much. You don't even know the privilege you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:39 PM
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I'm totally fine with that. I would LOVE to have my worth measured by something I can actually control (you know, like men)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:00 PM
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OP specifically said she doesn’t just want attention, she wants to be loved. And with all the “how to manipulate women’s emotions” garbage floating around right now it is a nightmare to figure out if you’re being used or if you should really give this guy a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:03 PM
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TRP and everything in its gravitational pull is Psychological Abuse 101. They even come right out and say it, “women have feelings and TRP teaches men to manipulate those feelings to men’s advantage.” As if 1) that’s in any way an ok thing to say and 2) that’s not exactly what they’re bitching that women try to do to them. God damn.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy20/10/19 10:56 PM
2

Apart from encouraging women to have careers, how is this advice different from what RP women, which TRP supports, teaches?
/r/askTRP20/10/19 10:51 PM
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What should a guy do before you sleep with him? In what other ways does he demonstrate genuine interest and commitment?
/r/askTRP20/10/19 10:49 PM
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I can only speak from my own experience of course, but the single moms I know, including my own, don’t get squat from the dads. I had a friend growing up whose dad actually moved to another country (with his new gf of course) to avoid child support. I don’t actually know any guys with primary custody so i can’t speak to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:58 PM
1

As a woman I totally agree with paying half. Absolutely. But I’ve literally had men fight me for the check on a date, and I’ve been told that it’s unattractive for me to insist on paying my way. “Men want to feel like the hero” and such. Ditto non-financial stuff. I’ve had to teach myself to stop and let a man open the door because the feedback I got was me doing it or, god forbid, me holding the door for a man, was emasculating. So tbh I’m not real sure how to show up 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:56 PM
1

I literally do not personally know any women who think of men as walking wallets. I always hear men complaining about the opposite, that women are too independent and won’t let guys do things like pay for dinner. I know I don’t feel comfortable letting a guy pay because apparently they “want to pay” but then feel “treated like a walking wallet?” Honestly which is correct??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 12:01 AM
1

Sounds good. Have fun with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:58 AM
1

Not deflecting. Just suddenly really weary. It’s a debate without end.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:55 AM
1

Let’s get real-real here. In a really lame way. Nothing works across the board. And that’s why we all bicker. We want it to be simple but it’s not. Both sides want it to be the other side’s fault. Dating men is scary and disappointing and confusing. I’m sure dating women is the same. Did I miss any platitudes? I hope you find some relief from whatever makes you so agitated about this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:47 AM
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*hire And it’s 79 cents now. trust me, it’s not about “choices...” more about facts like NASA couldn’t complete a female-only space walk because it only had 1 female space suit. Women are passed over because they’re more likely to miss work to start families. Also we’re told we’re less marriageable if we’re successful, so women who believe that and want families gravitate toward less demanding jobs. So there’s an opportunity gap as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:37 AM
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Women as a whole are still paid less for equal work, which could explain why men pay more income tax. As for the rest, I'd be curious to see the data you're referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:44 AM
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You'd think that would make it easier to find common ground. Must be some cosmic joke that wanting the same thing puts us at odds with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:22 AM
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Everybody's taxes pay for it now that women can work. You don't think RP is a broad attempt to bring about cultural change?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:20 AM
3

Oh lort.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:17 AM
1

Lol. There you are ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 06:08 PM
1

Thank god. It’s basically “psychological abuse 101”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 06:00 PM
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Maybe don’t stick your dick in it without a ring on your finger? Or did you not know that a guy, behaving just as irresponsibly, has to be involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:59 PM
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Lol. Trust me he’ll be fine. Furthermore...why isn’t he in jail? This wasn’t even he said she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:58 PM
1

This entire thread is evidence to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:45 PM
1

Unless he’s an athlete who rapes a girl behind a dumpster. Looking at you Brock Turner, who’s very much in the mainstream view.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:45 PM
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Wow. Is this real. Ok: You would clearly be amazed at how few teenagers understand how easily pregnancy happens. They think if you pull out, if you do it while she’s on her period, etc it won’t happen. You’re right, where ARE the parents? Many of them are moms who’s husbands took off. But we’re not taking those guys to task of course. If our culture was harder on men who had irresponsible sex I promise we’d see fewer girls getting seduced then dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:44 PM
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Also there’s the double standard within this very subject. Female single parent: pariah. Male single parent: hero. No questions asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:15 PM
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Either men have agency or they don’t. No exceptions for youth. If we don’t get a pass on our mistakes, no matter how honest, why do men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:14 PM
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And children do not have agency. Women aren’t born knowing what’s best for us, and acting against it. Have a little compassion we’re all trying to figure it out as we go.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:03 PM
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I agree. But “boys will be boys” persists 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:02 PM
1

What about the women who thought they had a commitment? Or the ones who are victims of our abysmal sex education system? How about the 16 and 17-year-olds who were far too young to know what was going on, and were taken in by older men? Rape victims who chose to raise the kid? I get why it’s tempting to try oversimplify this shit, but to do that is really just ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 05:01 PM
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Plus, look at all the single moms who are very young. A lot of them got taken advantage of when they were far too young to know any better. Women were children too
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:26 PM
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Can only do so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:24 PM
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That’s not honesty, that’s highly jaded opinion. Men don’t consider themselves as responsible for children, they bail all the time when things get hard. Start changing your focus to include all the stories of abandoned women, and see how exceptional they seem. Why do you think women started wanting to work? Constantly getting burned by the “provider.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:21 PM
2

Huh? How was she supposed to know he was going to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 04:18 PM
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Maybe he wasn’t a deadbeat. Maybe he’s just dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:55 PM
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Why the instant assumption though that it’s what she deserves? What if she had sex with 1 dude, her husband, and then he bailed or died? Does that make a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:52 PM
1

I think a century ago it was just par for the course for men to have outside sexual relationships.
/r/RedPillWomen06/10/19 12:44 PM
1

The second. He started trying to crawl back the second real life got real. Then he found himself a meth habit.
/r/RedPillWomen06/10/19 12:42 PM
1

So....she deserved what she got. Basically. I seem to recall a heartbreaking post on here recently from a young woman who had done everything “right.” Housewife, no career, 4 children. And a husband who wasn’t worth shooting. Maybe you saw it? In other words, I think it’s incredibly unfair to suggest that this man’s behavior is his wife’s fault. Oh, and the “more feminine wife” he ruined everything for left him the second he ran out of money. And he started trying to crawl back to the “modern wo…
/r/RedPillWomen06/10/19 12:42 PM
1

This is the most hopeful thing I’ve read here thank you
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/19 03:05 AM
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When I say, “give everything,” I don’t mean martyring. I mean went 100% into the relationship. Thought they were contributing to something bigger than themselves. Case in point one of my friends who met and married her husband young. They built a successful construction company together, had a beautiful home and a vacation home, 3 nearly grown kids. Were starting to look at expanding. Then he comes home one day and drops the bomb that he’s leaving for someone younger than one of his daughters.
/r/RedPillWomen04/10/19 02:57 AM
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I struggle not to feel resentment that we have to think this way. But I guess that’s about as useful as wishing water wasn’t wet 🤷‍♀️
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 10:20 PM
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I guess I haven’t had much exposure to those kind of men. Several who I thought were like that turned out not to be, they just managed to get their wives to take them back. One told me the only reason his marriage was intact was bc the woman he was sleeping with died.
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 10:18 PM
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I’m talking about women who have been married for decades. Who give everything and then get blindsided. I can think of three right off the top of my head who built amazing lives with their husbands, only to come home one day to him saying “I found somebody else.” And she’s 20 years younger than him. They burn down empires Because a 20 something will give them the time of day
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 09:27 PM
1

Really? How interesting. Do you mind if I ask where you’re from? Yes I am in the US
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 08:19 PM
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It just seems like lately every time I turn around, perfectly nice mature women are getting dumped because they had the audacity to age. It’s discouraging tbh, and makes me mistrustful if men in general. As unfair as I know that to be.
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 07:51 PM
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I’ve wondered something along these lines. The RP community in general talks a lot about “the (dreaded) wall,” and there’s SO much emphasis on SMV for us. I keep wondering...sure we can work on ourselves and settle down when we’re young and pretty, but what stops him from trading us in further down the line? Sometimes it feels like no matter what amount of non-aesthetic value we bring, our age is ultimately the most important thing. And age is coming for all of us, no matter how gracefully we de…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/19 07:22 PM
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Maybe she’s lonely and intimidated by the new surroundings? Have you tried reaching out like you love each other instead of trying to figure out how to best manipulate?
/r/MarriedRedPill07/01/19 10:56 AM
2

Hmm. I think this is a touch exaggerated and oversimplified. And not a view shared by all men (fortunately). That said, you are of course entitled to your worldview and I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Best of luck to you!
/r/RedPillWomen01/09/18 08:15 PM
2

I'm curious, does your logic about not being able to "forego former lifestyles" and "transition into Good Whatever," apply to men? Because nearly all the men I know have enjoyed sexual freedom, but no one doubted their ability to become "Good Men" once the wild oats were sown.
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/18 03:24 AM
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Ah. I'm not sure I personally know any of these women. I've only known one person, in fact, with such a number and he was a man. Not upheld to the same standards, of course. Anyway I appreciate your input, bleak as it is, but I'm not sure it specifically applies to my situation since, once again, I'm nowhere near the 50+ range. Thank you though for taking the time.
/r/RedPillWomen31/08/18 03:20 AM
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Also wasn't meaningless or random. And I'm not ashamed. I wouldn't do it again given the chance, but that's not the same.
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/18 02:53 AM
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I feel compelled to chime in here...it's nowhere near 50+...exact number is 17 including current boyfriend. And it was all nearly ten years ago. Young n stupid.
/r/RedPillWomen29/08/18 02:51 AM
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Unless he's fooling around online, I don't think he's cheating. He almost never leaves the house. He's just been cheated on multiple times so he assumes I'm doing/will do it too.
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/18 02:31 AM
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Oh...yeah that's hard to hear. Especially since we've been together so long and live together. I'm listening to you, though, and will consider what you've said. Thank you for the input. I don't believe he's cheating, at least not physically. I guess it's possible he's emotionally cheating online or something but physically he almost never leaves the house except for work.
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/18 01:49 AM
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Usually when I leave the house for long periods, even if it's for work or shopping or to go visit family
/r/RedPillWomen27/08/18 01:25 AM
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I'm 32. I agree, I wish he would stop that. It's frequently out of seemingly nowhere, too 😕
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