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I had a woman ditch me on the date for some other guy she met that night. I was furious at the time, but in hindsight I'm glad she had the balls to save us both the wasted time. The thing is she is very attractive Get use to pretty privilege, my friend. Hot girls are like this because they can be. You can either play along and just be fun with it and sometimes get laid or do what you did and say this isn't worth my time. The most laid optimal guy would just be non-reactive and ignore this nonsen…
/r/seduction28/01/26 03:12 AM
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"You're not supposed to ask me that!" is her trying to universalize something specific to her weird feelings. The only correct answer to a woman suddenly feeling pressured to physically escalate is just be cool with it. Don't feel bad, just say "No prob. Wanted to see if you were up for it. No worries if you're not."
/r/seduction27/01/26 08:35 PM
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Yeah, I think you've gotta find a groove that works for you. The archetype PUA is 1000% charisma, high energy, party animal, fun, funny, 1000mph conversationalist, but you can't and shouldn't try to be that if it's not within feasible range of your natural energy. It just looks odd and you'll never hit it. I naturally am a bit like this with my friends so the challenge to me was just how to get it out in front of women, but most guys aren't and they're going to play a lot better with e.g. some D…
/r/seduction25/01/26 04:47 PM
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Yeah, great point! Now just figure out how to be effortlessly funny to every woman's sense of humor without coming off too strong by how hard you need her to laugh! In seriousness, though, I've had a few breakthrough moments at parties while high on 2CB: you can come on incredibly strong with a lot of energy, humor, and charm, so long as you periodically check in and notice where they're at, and comment on it. Every little fucking thing: their clothes, the look they're giving you, just like take…
/r/seduction24/01/26 07:57 PM
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Yes and as someone who's been meditating furiously for years, it's not a substitute for going out and doing or for confronting your inadequacies.
/r/seduction06/01/26 06:44 PM
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88% likely AI. Please downvote this shit.
/r/seduction13/11/25 06:16 PM
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Yeah, there was one woman I was into who was giving very "maybe" vibes. I expressed my frustration to a female friend of mine who shared the following wisdom: "You're trying to figure out if she's into you, but she doesn't know yet either." In many cases, you do need to be able to hang out in "She's having a taste" time without pressuring here. This should NOT be confused with "she's trying to avoid dating you without outright declining you", which is my description of Friend Zone.
/r/seduction05/11/25 07:28 PM
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So in my earlier phase, I would just never make the move and/or be a wash dishrag of an overpleasing persistent personality, thinking that would work, maybe that the fawning would appeal to her. Then I just got very persistent up front, just to make sure I wouldn't time out, become too available, and let the moment for the move pass. The side effect here is I was pushy and didn't really take in the woman's experience or interest level. I never did anything that rose to being more than annoying b…
/r/seduction04/11/25 01:56 PM
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Took a girl I met in Starbucks to a concert once. Other guy was talking to her and she basically just wound up with him that night. I was kind of devastated at the time and honestly for several days afterwards, but in hindsight many years later, our date was going kind of awkwardly and this woman saved me wasting any more time with her. I'm not sure it's necessarily relevant but I'm short as well (5'3") so I dunno maybe she was just being superficial about a tall guy in a loud dark venue. This i…
/r/seduction23/06/25 04:04 PM
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Apparently we're arguing about the definition of peacocking and thus getting into worthless semantics. Presumably what you care about is meeting guys, not what things are "correctly" labeled as.
/r/seduction28/03/25 03:20 PM
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I mean, we can get into semantics and look up definitions but at the extreme, sure, you're like wearing a onesie and a tutu and just kind of making this giant scene out of how you're dressed, but at the other end, you've just got a cool scarf on or something that gives a neutral person a reason to be curious about you and someone who's into you an easy means to chat you up.
/r/seduction23/03/25 11:10 PM
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You seem very eager to shoot down female agency in the dating process in general, to call wearing a fun necklace the same thing as being a clown. The beauty of peacocking is it sets up the premise for a guy to do the approaching. You're just removing an obstacle for him of figuring out what the hell to say to someone he doesn't know.
/r/seduction22/03/25 05:11 PM
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There was this 2016 movie called "How to Be Single" that I think wasn't rated well enough for what it merited, but there was a scene in there where a player-type guy is explaining to his female friend that he's always completely honest and women hear what they want to hear and then illustrates it by telling some woman he's been seeing that they should see other people with her basically not reacting. In the next scene, the woman sees him kissing another woman and gets outraged, thus proving his …
/r/seduction05/03/25 02:08 AM
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Yeah, it's a balance. If you watch Wedding Crashers, you can see how they strategically use vulnerability to seduce their targets ("We lost a lot of good men out there.") and that's an aspect of the script that seems oddly believable. Just, you know, replace fake vulnerability with things you're actually vulnerable about. I think some part of a lot of women goes, "Aw, he's wounded," and lets her guard down in response to your guard being down. That said, you do want to temper this a bit. Someone…
/r/seduction03/03/25 02:57 PM
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Moral of the story: Only deal with high interest women. Don't feel too shitty. You'd only learn this lesson the hard way, anyway. It's never been this bad, but I've definitely had dates with this flavor to them. Makes you realize how subservient you are to a hope of female interest. The problem with online dates is the women have as little invested in you as you are in them: some of the women are inhibited enough to act on that rationally which means piecing out when something better comes along…
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:45 PM
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Because she wants you to stop being a pussy and actually acknowledge what's happening. Guys are always afraid of being called "creepy", but this problem is easily solved by actually admitting what you're about. Like just tell her you're into her because it's exciting, she wants the compliment, and wants to see if you can actually be vulnerable enough to express romantic interest or if you're going to be some risk avoidant herb who spends time with her hoping she'll make the move some day.
/r/seduction23/01/25 10:28 PM
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"You look pretty" is a perfect repartee for "you look handsome". Ya'll are overthinking this. But I hope you're asking about what to say in person not what to say in a text.
/r/seduction22/01/25 06:23 PM
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Social media status is a vanity symbol. It's the most superficial means possible to measure your success and it means you waste time on winning over people you don't know.
/r/seduction14/01/25 07:32 PM
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Honestly, overblown excuse for men to sit around and complain about they're afraid to put themselves out there and try. Just don't be pushy with women you have direct supervisory-level power over and don't like stalk women/refuse to leave them alone when there's no interest, and you should be fine. Reasonable people will give you the benefit of the doubt for those times when signals get crossed and you genuinely thought there was a vibe and she was just politely trying to get you to go away. Bot…
/r/seduction13/01/25 03:23 PM
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I question clips like this because...why were they filming?
/r/seduction13/01/25 02:01 PM
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"You spot it, you've got it."
/r/seduction13/01/25 02:00 PM
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ChatGPT likely blows these out of the water anyway and if your message smells of AI even a little bit that's game over. But ChatGPT is so good at workshopping good openers It sounds like you're aiming to craft a standout opening that feels genuine and engaging—something that doesn’t come across as overly polished or artificial. If you'd like, I can help refine or brainstorm openers with you to ensure they strike the perfect balance between authenticity and impact. Let me know what you're working…
/r/seduction03/01/25 01:32 PM
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Yeah, I agree with the content of this, but feel obliged to update the language. It's neurotic/anxious to worry about this. Men do it, women do it more often. Without making it a derogatory gendered thing, we can just say it's not useful and you're winding yourself up over nothing. If we're banging, she can call me meathead for all I care.
/r/seduction19/12/24 02:12 PM
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Yeah, nighttime on the streets is pretty much always totally out unless she's with a group of friends and there's a fun vibe going on. I mean.... do men think about what it would be like even if a random woman approached you when you were alone at night? Weird, right? Okay great, now throw in the gendered vibe of a pushy man wanting something out of a woman plus the strong likelihood that he's physically stronger than her.
/r/seduction18/12/24 06:00 PM
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Depends on where you live and its demographics. I'd say the market is about the same but I've grown so it's actually better.
/r/seduction16/12/24 08:10 PM
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Yeah, I personally came to the seduction community looking waaay the fuck too seriously and dire about everything, and I wanted the steadfast rules of a logical system. Leaving the thing more playful and open is what I should have been doing.
/r/seduction16/12/24 01:36 PM
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I mean, that's your choice, but most females are a bit sheepish about saying things directly and have essentially built up a code of plausible deniability around casual sex. Being able to recognize that code is an essential safety screen for keeping away men who've never learned more about women than what they get from staring at them. If she's into you, "calling you on your bullshit" might actually be her flirting with you. If she's not into you and asks "who is he?", she's just turning you dow…
/r/seduction16/12/24 01:50 AM
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If you or she brings up the word "boyfriend" at any point in the conversation, you both know what's going on. If she chats with you for a while but suddenly "has a boyfriend" when you ask for her number, you equally should figure that out.
/r/seduction16/12/24 12:34 AM
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Oh god, some of ya'll worry too much.
/r/seduction16/12/24 12:31 AM
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You simply ask her. This is asking her. Women aren't that dumb. This is direct enough to be flirting.
/r/seduction15/12/24 07:00 PM
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BUUUUUUUTTT what if I lie to myself and hold out hope for like just one more month?
/r/seduction11/12/24 08:45 PM
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Reframe "negging" as "teasing". It's playful and flirty. You're suppose to smile and tease back or at least give her a playful little shove.
/r/seduction10/12/24 05:46 PM
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It all depends on how you're internalizing the experience of being alone. There's: "I'm so lonely, no one loves me, no one wants me, it's proof that I'm unworthy" vs. "Meh whatever, I'm doing my thing. I'm in contact with people. It'll be nice treat when a woman comes along who meshes well with my life, but it's not holding me up or anything." I don't think there's really a tradeoff between getting a good career going so you won't be poor and meeting women so you won't be lonely. Just don't negl…
/r/seduction10/12/24 01:44 PM
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I actually have a friend who contacted a math professor half way across the country because she wanted to audit the class. He was cool with it. Most professors are just delighted to have an audience that wants to hear them. Teaching people who are forced to be there is less satisfying, even if they're paying your salary.
/r/seduction10/12/24 01:24 PM
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I wound up boinking 3 of my coworkers who were nurses or teachers at a school I taught at and was supremely lucky in that nothing blew up in my face afterwards. I think what worked was that I was cautious because they were my coworkers, so my caution drew them in. Or you know, I was just lucky it all worked out how it did.
/r/seduction09/12/24 09:03 PM
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Yeah, any IOIs from someone hired to professionally friendly should be discounted accordingly. On the other hand, it might be that people who take these jobs are just genuinely more friendly and open people so...
/r/seduction09/12/24 08:59 PM
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Yeah, but when you become an adult in an economy where you can't afford rent, suddenly you realize you can't pay the bills with all that pussy.
/r/seduction09/12/24 08:58 PM
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I'm sure the gender ratio varies enormously by the night, the venue, the time of day, time of year. Some places specifically have quotas or give women free drinks to make the ratio not terrible, since no one - men or women - wants a sausagefest. Other cities? All the data and anecdotes say that New York City is the only place where the ratio really works in mens' favor, that there are so many women there, they're so busy outcompeting each other that the men don't have to do much. All in all, my …
/r/seduction08/12/24 06:34 PM
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Well that's not a problem that validation from women can fix. Therapy, meditation, social interests unrelated to picking up women. You've got to find something to touch grass on so that you're not overly fixated on the importance of a woman or women filling this giant hole in your life.
/r/seduction26/11/24 07:45 PM
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Funny hat, cat ears, necklace, t-shirt that says something funny, like literally anything unusual enough to make a conversation piece.
/r/seduction25/11/24 11:32 PM
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Can't believe no one has mentioned peacocking: wear at least one thing that's unusual enough that a guy wanting an excuse to talk to you could ask about.
/r/seduction25/11/24 10:42 PM
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Same. Friend and I were in a bar, quite drunk, and there was a woman and her friend who just decided we were the best way to get laid that night. Our qualifications were that we were horny and drunk. I don't know. Like we weren't terribly dressed or fat or anything but very average, even shorter-than-average dudes.
/r/seduction04/11/24 11:27 PM
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Also remember that it's not an adversarial interaction: women want guys to talk to them. They want hot make outs, fun little innocent-ish flings and stories to have with their friends. Just forget about whether you're getting enough points to score and have fun flirting.
/r/seduction21/10/24 04:51 PM
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Maybe smile and nod for a quick second, but then carry on with your life like she never existed. Yeah, tune down the interest, but not to the point where you look petty or hurt or anything.
/r/seduction15/10/24 07:09 PM
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The best way to get past someone's walls is to suddenly get to know their walls without needing to get past them. Acknowledge it and then just continue hanging out.
/r/seduction14/10/24 06:52 PM
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Yeah, that's fair.
/r/seduction03/10/24 04:46 PM
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Yeah, the whole genuineness and authenticity piece only works if combined with vulnerability and awareness of the other person's state. If you just show up and start talking about how much anime excites you while her eyes glaze over, your authenticity doesn't do shit for you.
/r/seduction03/10/24 02:04 PM
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It's funny to see neurotic guys on here trying to read tea leaves: "A girl who never seemed all that into me stopped replying. Guys, did I wait the wrong number of seconds before writing a DM back? Did I say the wrong thing in response to a shit test?"
/r/seduction25/09/24 03:41 PM
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I live in a small town with around 10,000 people. possibly relocate to a higher population city Spot on, man. You're telling me that it just might be at least moderately problematic to be in a small town where everybody knows everybody's business and you can't go anywhere without being spotted for a woman to have a romantic time with the 5 ft 5 obese janitor with moderate autism? Not even looking into the issue of the demographic tables of how many single women of dating age even live in that to…
/r/seduction23/09/24 06:53 PM
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They don't think the upsides of a relationship outweigh the freedom to be able to bang around. The grass is always greener somewhere else. My impression is that psychologist/relationship therapists generally agree on the model of, "LTRs are hard because the fun exciting shit that you can get away with in the beginning because the person can just be your fun projection wears off and you have to confront both actually learning who they really are and facing your own flaws/limitations/spiritual exp…
/r/seduction23/09/24 03:39 PM
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I also live in a city where monogamous committed dating is extremely hard. Tell me you live in New York without telling me you live in New York.
/r/seduction23/09/24 03:29 PM
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There is an endless library of openers in the history of this sub. Go check out that search bar, bro. Nothing is foolproof. There is always some risk and vulnerability you can't avoid. Just try something and learn.
/r/seduction21/09/24 02:56 PM
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People like to talk about things they're interested in/passionate about. Get me talking about the finer details of coffee, social dynamics, societal norms, or bike lanes and I won't shut up. So, you can ask her what she's into and let her talk about it or you can go with topics that are popular with women (though topics like make-up, Desperate Housewives, or fashion are often things men find boring, so then you're just bored playing along). I've taken up some interests that are typically more fe…
/r/seduction17/09/24 11:31 PM
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Reminds me of the dating tip from that Will Smit movie "Hitch": And when she answers, don’t be looking at her mouth. Don’t be wondering what she looks like naked. Listen and respond. Listen and respond. Just the joke that it takes expert advice to tell you to actually listen.
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:04 PM
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Yeah, mimic her just screams simp. Sure, you don't want to be toooooo far off her energy to the point of it weird/awkward, but the power of your frame comes from your energy being something that draws her in.
/r/seduction12/09/24 10:19 PM
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Never happened to me, but a friend of mine was approaching a woman and he didn't realize he'd approached her before. She became animated and was like, "This is what you do! You just talk to random women!" like basically calling him out for being a scammer. The way he tells the story, though, conveys such a good frame on it, like, "Sorry lady, I'm just trying to meet people like anybody! It's not any easier for me than you but this is just how it works! Sorry we have to go through all this!"
/r/seduction12/09/24 01:44 AM
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a really stylish woman An excellent thing to notice about a woman. It should be obvious, but apparently it's not obvious enough that compliments about how a woman has chosen to present herself (esp. non-sexual) are superior to any kind of comment about some immutable characteristic. Tattoos/hair/piercings/style.. you're actually noticing that she's a PERSON!
/r/seduction08/09/24 04:49 PM
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I'm amused that so many people ITT just assume that sex would be just as desired if it were always thrown at us, who are likely baffled why women turn down sex. Attraction and desire come from the uncertainty and plausible deniability that a thing is going to happen. On top of this, some below have mentioned the safety aspect for women, which can't be ignored. Women have to figure out what the rape/violence/STD/pregnancy/reputation/harassment risk of going somewhere alone with a guy and having s…
/r/seduction04/09/24 04:50 PM
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There are no leagues, but also there kind of are. I was dating a cute thin fairly tall (5'9") woman (I'm 5'3") with a great sense of fashion and I would get nods from guys in bars that felt great. My thinking she was out of my league was how I completely boneheadedly failed to accept her interest in me for so long (she'd invite me a movie, come over my house, but no warm vibes so it took me a long ass time to make a move on her. When I finally did, she was VERRRRY forward). Then there are women …
/r/seduction29/08/24 06:43 PM
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Uhhh, have you not seen Legally Blonde? They had an entire scene.
/r/seduction28/08/24 05:24 PM
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I was having a conversation with a woman about the challenges/strategies of dating or something like that and the woman, I was talking to just thought this all to be absurd. "Just be yourself!" she said dismissively. Internally, I thought well, that actually is great advice .... if you're an attractive woman who innately has dating access with virtually any man she talks to.
/r/seduction26/08/24 05:12 PM
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"ch" is most commonly a "ch-" sound, like in "church" "sh" is most commonly a "sh-" sound, like in "shout". And dyslexia is an usually cruel word to have hard spelling but it is decently phonetic if you replace the first 'i' sound with a 'y'. E.g. "dislexia"->"dyslexia". Your spelling looks like "dis-ee-lex-yeah". This is all of course super relevant to pickup.
/r/seduction22/08/24 04:14 PM
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*tushy "touchy" is ...uhhh....like being touch-y"
/r/seduction21/08/24 09:15 PM
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Treat an adult woman who's making her own choices as an adult woman who's making her own own choices. Just make sure she's an adult woman.
/r/seduction15/08/24 04:00 PM
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Yeah, I read the opening and it basically sounded like this problem exactly: my relationships are a hollow shell because of how experienced I became with women.
/r/seduction13/08/24 07:47 PM
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Yeah, you need to stop doing this thing where you're COUNTING the hours until she responds. Reeks of oneitis. Hours counting is for people who work in customer service and are being paid for certain turnaround times. In your case, it's you trying to justify that your feeling of "she's not into me" should be ignored. Move on to wells that aren't dry.
/r/seduction10/08/24 04:21 PM
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Lol @ asking men in search of flirting advice for flirting advice.
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:56 PM
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Literally, the worst I've ever had was years and years ago and I used an opener from The Game and was called out on it. I held my frame and just kept going. It was fine, but awkward. In hindsight, I should have just done an Agree and Escalate e.g. "ha ha, I know! Me and friends had a bet if that shit would actually work! What do you think?" Other that that, the worst I've ever gotten is... either a fake number or a real number with weeks' worth of flaking. Women are just as afraid IF NOT MORE of…
/r/seduction07/08/24 01:38 PM
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Also, if your main concern is keeping good sex going, Esther Perel has a great book about how intimacy is necessarily at odds with eroticism, so you need breaks from the former to spice up the latter. Also, that if she's preoccupied with taking care of you (or vice versa), she will have no bandwidth left for enjoying sex for herself.
/r/seduction06/08/24 05:15 PM
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For keeping a relationship going and giving her little surprises every day, remembering things she didn't think you'd remember, leaving a bit of mystery about some of your pieces, there are certain timeless books about this. The terminology and gender stereotypes might be a bit outdated, but to paraphrase Bill Maher, "Women are mostly the same as they were."
/r/seduction06/08/24 05:00 PM
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This has been depicted in a few movies I can recall, the "thanks for the help getting rid of that guy. I don't know you at all but I'm totally open to you for the role you accidentally played in saving me"
/r/seduction05/08/24 02:27 PM
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He was lucky she didn’t call the cops. Ya'll are always so dramatic, like the women are going to impale you with a fire poker.
/r/seduction05/08/24 02:25 PM
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Yeah, so given that I'm an old person, let me tell you a thing or two, sonny: I'm going to call out "shoot your shot" as being old as the hills. I've seen "simp" around but didn't realize that was PUA in origin...I think in my day, we talked about AFCs but I don't think we had a verb for fawning. I've seen "rizz" but still haven't heard anyone use it unironically in a sentence (i.e. by a native speaker). I've never heard the rest of these. I kinda want "Big Dick Energy" to make a comeback, just …
/r/seduction03/08/24 01:15 PM
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AMOG It's been a while but Alpha Male Of Group i.e. getting punked.
/r/seduction02/08/24 08:57 PM
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Yeah, over the years something I decided that seduction advice overemphasized was "It's all in getting the technique right. If you're failing, you've done it wrong," in lieu of, "Not all women will be into you. If she's not giving you the vibes, give her a gracious send-off and move on." Maybe linger slightly more than you otherwise would to cover those times you were just pussying out and she was honestly neutral but open to you, but the majority of women you approach don't need another dick th…
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:44 PM
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"Looks" is a more general feel category but essentially yes. And just as there are things you can do to tweak your looks, you can build a fun personality that's more appealing to be around.
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:38 PM
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Yeahhhh... you'll want to forget that for at least 5 seconds at a time and actually have feelings.
/r/seduction30/07/24 04:05 PM
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How many bites should you have in a meal? How many seconds should you hug your mom? Jesus, dude, stop trying to create a linear regression model on your experience and just go with it.
/r/seduction30/07/24 03:36 PM
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Point of order, you mean "show interest", not "interests". I was confused by this and thought you had told her what kind of hobbies you liked, you know, your interests.
/r/seduction26/07/24 09:09 PM
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Fun fact: the fancy word for verbal diarrhea is logarrhea from "logos" ("word"). I learned that word recently and decided I wanted it to make a comeback.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:25 PM
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They just seem like boring interview questions, like a boring middle school boy trying to engage a girl. What the fuck does anyone care about the number of sets involved?
/r/seduction25/07/24 04:02 PM
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As a man, let me mansplain why it's not.. j/k. I think in today's day and age, your reaction is going to be more common, but it does give the woman an excuse to flirt in a kind of "damsel in distress" role, like in Mean Girls when Kady asks for help from her crush but obviously doesn't need it. Some women are proud of the kind of subterfuge involved in getting a man by playing dumb and tell that story on their wedding day. Other women just don't tick that way and get understandably annoyed at th…
/r/seduction25/07/24 04:00 PM
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Definitely backing the hand hold as a super obvious step that's limited in terms of the trouble it would get you into if you miscalibrate interest.
/r/seduction22/07/24 09:50 PM
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"Hey X, I'm super sorry about last night. I thought there was a certain way I was supposed to act to be with you but I messed up, ignored what you wanted, and made you really uncomfortable. My feelings aren't your problem. Reach out to me at some point in the future if you want to connect in the future but I understand if you don't."
/r/seduction19/07/24 10:44 PM
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The grand confession of feelings never works. But the Hollywood movies show that I can look like Seth Rogan and this technique will land me Mila Kunis! Honestly, the biggest mistake was.... it doesn't matter. She wasn't into you. You can't game your way into connection with a woman who's not into you. The second biggest mistake was needing to get repeated super clear definitive answers every moment and making your emotional state dependent on what the outcome of that answer was. You were super a…
/r/seduction19/07/24 10:33 PM
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Haha, classic Seinfeld moment when George misses VERY conspicuous cues and then just feels like dope afterwards. No worries, man. This was the ass kick you needed for next time to act when it's obvious you should.
/r/seduction18/07/24 05:22 PM
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Getting a number when she doesn't want to give it is not worth anything. It just becomes a dead lead that wastes your time to follow up on. If she's into you, she will want her contact info in your hands with the slightest excuse to do so. How you ask for the number isn't the magic everyone thinks it is. If some famous person you admired just told you to meet up with them for beers or something and asked how they could contact you, you'd be DELIGHTED for the to have it. In most cases, you will h…
/r/seduction13/07/24 05:06 PM
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Ya, I gotchu. Beginner tip for "Don't be creepy" would be something like, "Have fun, smile more, be playful/silly". But also, there's something to be said for the 3-second rule: if a girl sees you looking at her, approach within 3-ish seconds.
/r/seduction10/07/24 10:06 PM
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Hierarchy of niceness, ranked by modality, from highest to lowest: In-person talking Phone conversation/Zoom SMS/whatsapp equivalent Reddit Facebook Nextdoor Not incidentally, this is also the hierarchy for ability to flirt and have human connection. Get out of the walls of internet text and the fears of your imagination. People are nice out in the world.
/r/seduction10/07/24 07:14 PM
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Well, calibration is a thing too. If you're sensing that she's starting to spook and worried about how to get rid of you, you play up your playful, silly, talkative, non-threatening self. If she's throwing down "When can I jump you?" vibes, you show power, boldness, and mysteriousness.
/r/seduction10/07/24 01:00 PM
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I validate that point, that you can't control what other people project onto you and you shouldn't be too concerned with what others think of you, but if you're not also looking for tips on how to make the pickup process run more smoothly and have appeal to a wider array of the women out there, I'm not sure what you're doing in this sub. OP's question is specifically asking for tips here. Strawman your argument to the extreme and you get, "You should be able to walk around naked and pick up wome…
/r/seduction09/07/24 06:45 PM
5

I'm sorry. This is a great take for self-esteem and therapy purposes but a terrible frame for pickup, since pickup is about working with the (sometimes unreasonable) judgments women have. You can't just have all women in the world just be more sympathetic to the men they view as creepy so you're better off figuring out how not to spook them. To be clear, I'm not saying you are creepy, just that if your goal is to have a better experience with women to work on the "what part of this equation can …
/r/seduction09/07/24 05:19 PM
2

Yeah, but on the other hand, a lot of women are perfectly fine with settling down with any guy who's independent enough simply support himself. A mechanic is independent.
/r/seduction07/07/24 11:42 PM
3

Meh, only if it's something unique or interesting or artistic. Or something that showcases your positive qualities. Otherwise, it's not the most interesting thing about you.
/r/seduction07/07/24 10:32 PM
3

I think working class dude has an allure for hookups, but is harder to justify for a LTR. My guess is mechanic is seen as more manly than software developer but hard to bring home to show mom and dad.
/r/seduction07/07/24 10:30 PM
1

There are some women that are into casual sex and those will be pretty obvious. For the rest, I pretty much wind up in relationships because I'm chasing sex and don't mind the companionship, but then how shocked I wind up when I discover that I'm dissatisfied with the sexual or other details of the woman I'm with and start wondering what else is out there. I don't know. We all act like we have these hacks or are more modern than this and that we don't need to make the same compromises but by and…
/r/seduction05/07/24 04:36 PM
10

One of those Sankey diagrams would not look good. Rough estimates over like years of using: 10000 I swiped right 500 She also swiped right 50 became texts that she replied to 12 became dates 2 recently were good enough matches that things looked good. 1 became my current girlfriend.
/r/seduction03/07/24 07:47 PM
5

Someone said: sex is ice cream; it's nice, but not worth rearranging your life for.
/r/seduction02/07/24 07:51 PM
1

If you're enjoying yourself, go for it. Don't stick around if you think it's the thing you're supposed to want. But also if you are enjoying it, don't get hung up on shame stuff and miss out on something you'll wish you went along with when you're older.
/r/seduction27/06/24 01:17 AM
1

Oh, you're close but so far off it's mildly dangerous. The turnoff is NEEDINESS. She's not your shoulder to cry on, but that doesn't mean you can't have any feelings. Being able to take care of your own needs is what matters. It's like you've never seen an emo college kid play guitar and clean house. It takes bravery to put yourself out there and show who you are. Women respect that when done from a place of CONFIDENCE. This was the "Lost a lot of good men out there" cliche in Wedding Crashers: …
/r/seduction20/06/24 05:46 PM
2

It's like you guys never noticed how much women lust over Leo Di Caprio or Johhny Depp. They show vulnerability and depth.
/r/seduction20/06/24 05:41 PM
1

I met a women I wound dating for a year starting at the university gym. Don't scare her with too much interest at once. Keep it to brief exchanges until her "when is this guy going to leave me alone?" reflux subsides. Send her the message that you're not going to cling around her like a needy creepy horndog when you see her. Demonstrate to her low-stakes exchanges that show you don't need anything from her. This is your regular gym. You have plenty of time to build up rapport over the weeks or m…
/r/seduction18/05/24 07:27 PM
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Yeah, also, don't scare her with too much interest at once. Keep it to brief exchanges until her "when is this guy going to leave me alone?" reflux subsides. Send her the message that you're not going to cling around her like a needy creepy horndog when you see her. Demonstrate to her low-stakes exchanges that show you don't need anything from her.
/r/seduction18/05/24 07:24 PM
2

Sound like a bet/dare from friends. Don't think about it too much.
/r/seduction10/05/24 09:29 PM
2

Honestly, a lot of the posts in this subreddit are, "Yo, there's this one girl I like.... help me read tea leaves so I do the one right thing that results in my guaranteed success."
/r/seduction06/05/24 08:04 PM
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Yes, there are 54 US cities with metro pops of over 1 million (Austria has just 1 for comparison), spread out over a geographic region 117 times the size of Austria (roughly the area of all of Europe). Clearly, you've seen the entire country, much less the entire city you're visiting.
/r/seduction02/05/24 07:11 PM
3

Here, let me suck up to you and flatter you and be really nice to you and play along with every thing you say in hopes that this spinelessness will somehow lead you to make the first physical move on me. I can't believe how much I just follow this out of anxious tension when I was younger. Monitor her, but stay with yourself, how you feel, and what your beliefs are.
/r/seduction29/04/24 01:29 PM
6

Like fucking obviously, for sho.
/r/seduction19/04/24 06:33 PM
2

She might have just been vibing because she's one of those women who've been like super-trained by culture to be super accommodating to all people, who will play along because she's afraid of not being liked or making someone uncomfortable. You went to the bathroom was just her first chance to bail without facing you. Might have had absolutely nothing to do with your apartment or anything you said in the apartment.
/r/seduction19/04/24 06:13 PM
4

They approach when I'm not.
/r/seduction19/04/24 06:09 PM
1

You do know girls show false indicators of interest to bait guys only to reject them right? Meh, I think that's more of a "get instagram followers" thing. Women don't generally troll like this and it's going to shake a lot of your approach confidence if you spend any time thinking about it.
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:09 PM
1

I dunno. Go find out and talk to her, rather than sit around with your shy internet nerd friends and speculate. Go indirect: Hi, help me settle a debate. Go direct: Hey, you keep looking my way. I'm not just a piece of meat, you know. My name's RPL10.
/r/seduction16/04/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah, I was going to tell OP: The response the girl gave is a great sign! She could have just declined, citing her friend coffee date, but she didn't want to give you the impression she was making an excuse to not see you. That she is actually willing to include you in plans that she's made with someone that's obviously closer to her says a lot about her openness and maybe she just wants to get to know you a bit more in a low-stakes environment with the support of a friend. Also, this comment ab…
/r/seduction02/04/24 03:29 PM
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Write it down even—what she looks like, her personality, traits you DON’T want her possess. Bear in mind that a lot of learning about the traits you DON'T want her to have comes from dating women with those traits and finding out the hard way that it's important that she NOT have them.
/r/seduction27/03/24 05:44 PM
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Yeah, my challenge was always how to turn it flirty instead of just figuring that if I talked at her enough, I was making progress. Or maybe it's just that most women I was interested in didn't have interest in me. Anyway, that's why a little push, a little space works - gives her time to project mystery on to you. Who knows? I definitely also fucked up in the other way too, getting pretty clear signals from women and being too chicken shit to act. I don't know. Wishing you luck, my dude. There'…
/r/seduction24/03/24 02:38 AM
9

You absolutely should calibrate to how much you're expecting to see them in the immediate future in that context. Women are in general much better about not shitting where they eat - going romantic with someone in a regular social group of theirs risks it becoming awkward afterwards, word getting around, etc.... The social risks to women are comparatively high. She'll be a lot more receptive if she can trust that you'll be cautious and discrete. Also, seeing her on a regular basis in a non-roman…
/r/seduction23/03/24 05:44 PM
20

This is great, they're what we call Social Proof: the fact that women are willing to hang out with you greatly reduces the risk/creepiness factor to women who don't know you. Remember, every woman is navigating the issue of how to deal with the approach of strange horny hairy creatures who are physically stronger than them who they can't assume will take no for an answer. Having women with you says, "Look! Women are human to me! I'm a decent human being you don't have to automatically be afraid …
/r/seduction02/02/24 10:09 PM
1

What are you gonna do about it? Not me. Have you ever taught a classroom full of children who know any personal information about you ever? What might administration do when parents start calling in, saying they're concerned about a predator teaching their children? I know people who have been laid off for far less. You seem to be be preoccupied with what's true, as opposed to the optics of it. Again, I'm not judging one way or the other; just giving practical considerations.
/r/seduction27/11/23 01:30 PM
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Because having to start a conversation with "It was legal. I'm not a predator," is nothing I'd ever opt into with an angry mob of children, their parents, and administrators. Knowing in yourself that all was fine and there was no harm done is a lot easier than convincing an entire community and I don't know why anyone would want to begin that fight just for the possibility of getting their dick wet a couple times.
/r/seduction25/11/23 04:11 PM
9

If you still teach, don't be fucking stupid: Even if they are not your current student, you can be sure as shit they are in contact (or rumor network contact) with your current students.
/r/seduction25/11/23 04:27 AM
1

So, number 1, sorry my man. This hurts. The first place I go on this is that you're not taking any risks. You're way too safe and emotionally distant in any interaction and afraid to show yourself being attracted in a vulnerable, in the present moment way. So you talk to women and treat them really nicely, hoping some day they'll make the move for you and take those risks.
/r/seduction07/09/23 01:15 PM
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Let's stop making fun of OP. He might have just gotten high for the first time. "You guys, I just realized money was invented to buy things. Woah".
/r/seduction05/09/23 05:09 PM
13

I used to be with it...
/r/seduction29/08/23 07:50 PM
20

I'm mostly curious about word "rizz".
/r/seduction29/08/23 03:58 PM
3

Yeah, there is a type of woman who is really hot because her fragile self esteem is held together by horny men gushing over how she looks. This was a coworker, the school nurse. I found that hanging out with her while not reacting to the occasionally wild flirtatious remarks she made was all it took. There was an end of year work party and she basically grabbed me by the balls and made me fuck her 3 times that night. I later found out she was changing jobs and so was just waiting for the right t…
/r/seduction15/08/23 12:43 PM
1

You're lucky. I've got a terrible memory for people, so it's happened many times that I've approached the same woman more than once and I can't remember shit, so then I just look like an asshole.
/r/seduction16/07/23 03:06 AM
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Might be hearing accent from a richer country and assuming this level of money is nothing to him. I was in Ethiopia out with a random guy who was trying to set me up with a hooker. I bought rounds all night for both of them, since it was like $1.25 or something. I had no designs on anyone. I just figured "why the hell not?" Just never buy a drink for woman, expecting that it buys you anything else.
/r/seduction10/07/23 08:15 PM
1

Truth.
/r/seduction21/06/23 11:44 PM
17

It's a great line... if she's into you. And if she's not, well... at least you won't have to guess. Also, delivery on that line obviously matters. There's dry delivery and there's "wet" delivery. I do those soakingly wet, so it's absolutely clear that I'm just being playful.
/r/seduction21/06/23 06:20 PM
1

Ignore the responses below of horny dudes imagining Fucking Ms. July asking them out. It depends on if they are attracted to you already. The same rule for men applies for women: you can't hit on someone until they're attracted to you. The issue is just that men make the YAY or NAY decision faster than women on the basis of looks and men have to wait to do personality things to be attractive to a woman.
/r/seduction14/06/23 08:26 PM
4

Yeah, cold reads are always more fun than interview questions. They're these little low-stakes risks that are just entertaining and you might even discover you're betting at reading people than you thought.
/r/seduction25/04/23 05:40 PM
3

Do you approach with a needed outcome? That's awful for everyone involved. If you approach with an openness about where it goes? Low pressure all around.
/r/seduction07/04/23 06:12 PM
2

And as another point of encouragement, there are ladies who are actively into brown dudes, like it's their type, just like Indian women seem to be my type. I know 3 women who have either dated or married Indian guys and from my extremely biased sample, those women were all Jewish. It's glorious when you come across a woman and you're her type. All you have to do is not get in her way.
/r/seduction03/11/22 04:46 PM
3

I'm friend with Indians and dating an Indian. The role models out there for being a chill Indian dude who can manage his own baggage are not abundant, so the stereotypes don't work to your favor. A lot of Indian guys suck and haven't needed to work on emotional maturity. Your culture also doesn't give you a lot of practice/experience with dating and doesn't empower women to seek their desires. On the upside, it's easy to stand out as a decent Indian dude, because the standards are so low. Like, …
/r/seduction01/11/22 10:48 PM
9

shitpost, meet shitpost.
/r/seduction31/10/22 05:16 PM
63

You don't even have to really like them, if you can assure them that...yes, you understand that they are human beings and that you have a policy of not being shitty to human beings. When I was younger, I didn't know that's what the "I'm not having sex with you" thing was about, so when a woman told me she wouldn't have sex with me, I was just disappointed and said, "Welp... ok". Guess what? I still fucked her that night. My response still showed that I understood consent, that I could let go. Gi…
/r/seduction31/10/22 04:15 PM
27

The popular narrative here is that it's about not wanting to seem like a slut, but I've just never bought that as much as the safety narrative. If a woman is DTF, but has weird slut hangups, she's capable of making up whatever story she wants (e.g. was the alcohol, guy was too hot, I was indulging myself). But in general woman have a shittier time going for casual sex than men and the depth of that potential shittiness can go pretty far in a world where the other sex is, on average, pushier and …
/r/seduction31/10/22 04:07 PM
94

In today's episode of, "Does this guy understand boundaries or am I in for a night of borderline sexual assault?"
/r/seduction31/10/22 03:46 PM
103

"We are having sex, if you can prove you understand consent right now by showing me the appropriate response to 'no'."
/r/seduction31/10/22 03:43 PM
4

There's an 'H' in there? Like King of the Hill "hhh-wack"?
/r/seduction27/10/22 12:12 PM
10

What sub am I in?
/r/seduction27/10/22 12:12 PM
0

Yeah, that's a great philosophical point.... but I've learned these kinds of esoteric definition arguments have never turned a woman on.
/r/seduction26/10/22 09:01 PM
4

That is a hilariously annoying bot.
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:29 PM
16

Bah, IMHO women are more personality superficial and men are more looks superficial. No one's really getting a huge sexual charge out of knowing the inner essence of some person they just met. The healthiest takeaway you can pull from this exchange is women can be flaky as hell and it might have nothing to do your looks or personality. If a woman flakes on you, even if you thought it was going somewhere, just take it as a bee gone to look at another flower, as a user checking the next Tiktok vid…
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:28 PM
3

f you kissed someone that meant something, Nah, club make-outs with strangers were still nothing a lot of the time.
/r/seduction26/10/22 07:06 PM
7

American here and I've got a number of Indian friends and my gf is Indian. Holy shit do men have it bad in India (and so do women!). It just seems like the culture doesn't give you much in the way of useful models to work with. And then the women get stuck with the baggage of men who often haven't built any kind of relationship to maturity/ownership of experience/emotions. Also dating culture in India, there's not a lot out there plus the gender ratio is only now coming down toward parity. I sup…
/r/seduction18/10/22 04:54 PM
2

The name of the community is "seduction", not "social skills and party tricks who men who aren't happy with their love lives". Watch Neil Strauss' interview on The View for good repartee on this. However, the key issue is that the seduction community emphasizes technical skill or mindset toward a particular end. The problem, however, is that women are still people who have their own experiences. There's mention of letting go your outcome, but IMHO, there's always been an underemphasis on conside…
/r/seduction17/10/22 04:28 PM
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God, this brings me back maybe 10 years or so. I was chatting up a woman from Starbucks, I think she was a math major or something. I had tickets to Toots & the Maytals. We went for drinks beforehand. Weren't really hitting it off on the chemistry. At the concert, she winds up macking on some other dude, kissing, etc... I was furious. Internally called her all kinds of names, labels (e.g. slut). With the healing balm of time, I can even admire her choice. If anything, she was saving us both the …
/r/seduction14/10/22 07:27 PM
1

Somehow, all assumptions men have about women seem to be about attractive women. And bear in mind, the risks of dating for women are nowhere near what they are for men. They have more opportunities for dates, but that's not guarantee that they'll not have a miserable time at those dates. Men are at risk or not having a date or of having a date with someone they're not attracted to. Attractive women are dealing with the constant spamming of men who don't know them and they're constantly trying to…
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:47 PM
1

I wouldn't worry about it. There's enough importance on social status, confidence, and navigating social situations well that, for men, improvement in non-physical attributes easily offsets the slight drops in physical attractiveness. Go look up how old George Clooney or Brad Pitt were when they rose to stardom as heartthrobs (both 34). Tell me how much they've lost since then. If anything, certain aspects of dating become easier when you're older, but that doesn't mean you should just burn up y…
/r/seduction13/10/22 04:29 PM
3

Yeah, but also yoga classes are terrible places to meet women. They're there to decompress from their day/renew their spirit or whatever. They're not there to socialize, meet new people, or especially meet guys. I have been doing yoga for years at a number of different classes and class types and no one even hangs around afterwards for drinks/dinner/brunch or even to say "hi". It's just not a socializing scene in my experience. Go salsa dance, join a running group, take a fitness class, hiking g…
/r/seduction27/09/22 04:36 PM
1

Yeah.
/r/seduction17/09/22 03:05 PM
1

How are you getting this? The fact that she mentioned his birthday at all means she's more invested than having "forgotten" it and never raised it again. The only reason she's bothering to mention it is to point out that she "forgot" it. Either she's negging you, to disguise how interested in you she is, or it's just early, she doesn't really know you, and this is normal anyway. You're reading tea leaves here.
/r/seduction17/09/22 01:41 PM
3

She found other dudes to have superficial flings with. No need to dwell on it.
/r/seduction13/09/22 12:28 PM
14

Who I had a casual hook up with vs. who I dated was entirely a matter of her and had nothing to do with what I did. It's almost like they come to you with their own intentions. :) If she wants a hook up, she will find a way to wind up drunk with you at the end of the night. If she wants to date, she'll go along with your invitations to do a walk in the park/ice skating/fucking pottery night.
/r/seduction10/08/22 12:20 AM
2

I have spent many years considering this, going to social meditation events, and talking with women and I've come to: It's attracted for a man to give a shit about things that relate to his values. The charisma comes from the confidence which comes from not being ashamed of being into the things you're into. Like if you're really into Call of Duty or something, if you don't have shame around it and can make it relatable to someone who's not into it by talking about why you have emotional investm…
/r/seduction09/08/22 04:17 PM
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This happened to me. Really hot coworker. Like dressed and did make up a bit too hot for work. I assumed her hotness was a manifestation of her league, her exclusivity. Turned out she just had really low self esteem and desperately needed to have that kind of attention from men. I treated her like a human, didn't pressure her into getting her into some context that would facilitate us banging. In the end, when she realized she'd be changing jobs, she basically jumped me. Made me bang her that ni…
/r/seduction28/07/22 02:00 PM
2

I'm not sure. I feel that with Direct Game, the moment you've gone direct, you've sprung interest on a woman before she is ready for it and so the conversation instantly seems to pivot to "How do I get rid of this guy?" One of "rules" of game is you can't hit on someone before they're attracted to you. But obviously, you have to work out how to get noticed in the first place. There has to be way to set up "We're hanging out together in a low-pressure way so that you can notice me long enough to …
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:09 PM
3

Yeah, direct game is fun, but I commonly wound up with this "well now what?" moment after the opener.
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:31 PM
1

I feel l used to have a pretty similar superiority-inferiority complex: I felt like everyone else was living better lives than me, getting laid more, but also they were vapid idiots who focused on inane things. The main thing that helped me was getting into meditation communities and building connection with people, but that's probably not for everyone. I'd just say be open to trying things. Instead of judging people for their interests, figure out what people like about those things. Again, I'm…
/r/seduction22/07/22 09:34 PM
4

As opposed to reddit, where it's toxic and cringe full of attention seeking people who want validation from how many people upvote them. Or /seddit, where it's validation from how many women you've laid. We're all in the same soup, my friend. If you want to meet women, you're going to have to venture out into a world full of things you seem to find distasteful (which you're immersed in anyway). What if you have no friends or social circle, have no confidence, ugly, and don’t use social media? No…
/r/seduction22/07/22 02:44 AM
2

I soured on online dating, given just how mechanized and statistical the whole game is. It's a HUGE investment of time to get any responses and from there, do your favorite Sankey diagram of how many responses become conversations and how many of those become dates. You set yourself apart by being someone who actually leaves your basement and screen and meets people out in the world, where the people who are motivated to go out meet. Every woman you see online is being flooded with dicks and you…
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:06 AM
3

You act like not using social media is an immutable identity trait, like having freckles or something.
/r/seduction21/07/22 11:47 PM
1

For fucks' sake, hold her hand first and check out her body language. Don't charge in cold. But, yeah, telling her you want to kiss her is not going to get you friendzoned if you weren't already there. If she's into you, "I want to kiss you", is going to be met with any manner of favorable response. If you're friendzoned, she'll just give you some awkward wishy-washy answer.
/r/seduction21/07/22 08:35 PM
3

Yeah, I'm thinking about the shitty responses a man could give, like to get offended/entitled and by like, "Whatever, bitch, I don't know I waste my time with you" or even just conveying that in tone. Or maybe you start pleading. When caught off-guard in the past, I think I've just been disappointed, which also shows her that she's safe! But now, it's all "No prob. You call the shots, babe. I'm down for it."
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:34 PM
19

Also, if she brings this up, it's a good thing; she's already charging ahead on "I want to fuck this guy".
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:16 PM
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Yeah, mostly they are checking to see whether you're going to respect her wishes/consent, or just be a pushy dude who gets her into situation where she'll free pressured into doing things and later feel awful. It's actually a great test for that. Your reaction to the question gives an answer you can't lie about. People have mentioned it below as an Anti-Slut Defense: they care about their identity and not being an easy lay or being see that way by society, giving plausible deniability. I used to…
/r/seduction11/07/22 07:10 PM
5

Fucking YEARS of gaming and one of the lessons I'd give you is: randos are UNBELIEVABLY flaky, basically as much as dating app girls. Don't sweat it. It's nothing you did or didn't do; she's just got things going on that are more interesting to her than some random dude she can't guarantee would be an enjoyable experience. Also, yes, women in our culture have been definitely trained to politely deceive a guy, rather than risk the obnoxious argument that comes from openly telling them, "I'm not i…
/r/seduction01/07/22 02:53 PM
3

My favorite thing is when people credential themselves to be the expert in some public norm, except the arena of the norm is so ambiguous that there aren't really any rules. It becomes, "How I arbitrarily feel is how the rules are."
/r/seduction29/06/22 07:58 PM
1

Just get a convo going. The vibe you're aiming for is silly/friendly/flirty/light. At this point, I'd guess she's a bit into you, but also just playing around for fun. Tell her she's being inducted to super-secret club and the next activity is to rob a bank together. Ask if she's logistics, the muscle, or the wheelman. Something just silly like that, that you can play off of. Eventually, some kind of natural window will open up for some kind of date invitation, based on what you talk about. If s…
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:44 PM
45

An opening with 3 fucking y's. She's into you. God, just reply and let this women like you already!
/r/seduction27/06/22 01:30 PM
1

test subject's shoulders Uhhh.... so about these robots that have vaginas attached.... Have you ever had someone make physical contact with you that you didn't want? Imagine some strange creepy old dude. Girls are usually pretty good with doing the escalation ladder. They'll touch you briefly on the arm, brush past you casually, etc... you start using unconscious cues like how close they stand to you to get a sense of whether escalating is invited.
/r/seduction23/06/22 01:27 PM
1

Will you go to jail for trying to hold a girl's hand? For tapping her on the wrist when you're making a point while you talk? Jesus, dude there's an escalation ladder. As Monty Python put it, there are all kinds of things to do before you go stampeding into the clitoris.
/r/seduction23/06/22 12:51 PM
2

I'm not sure this is true. A lot of guys stay lonely for life and don't meet anyone. You don't see them out and about so much so you've got a selection bias. The other part of this is I'm happily in an LTR now, but something I underestimated in my gaming years is just how variable your reception will be. Every time a woman turns you down, you internalize and personalize it. Don't. You are a product not all women will be interested in. Don't waste your time with women that won't appreciate you. I…
/r/seduction13/05/22 10:18 PM
3

/r/seduction has always been a bunch of 13-year-olds desperately asking for advice from their 16-year-old older brothers. So many "Does she like me?"/"Should I go for it?"/ "Please tell me what to do so I don't have to experience any risk myself." posts. The community can be consultant for shit you've already tried, but don't expect someone else backseat driving your life is going to work.
/r/seduction23/12/21 01:55 PM
1

Yeah, if you're into bagging a woman as a superficial status symbol, then chances are, she'll only be into you as a superficial status symbol. If you want to meet someone with the barest level of depth (and the vast majority of women do have this), all you need is a bit of depth yourself. You have a unique drive within you that makes you do what you do. You have your interests and your own particular energy to how you are. I'm a guy who always has something to say, extremely extroverted, and hig…
/r/seduction23/12/21 01:52 PM
1

Let me know how it goes!
/r/seduction05/07/21 03:55 AM
1

So fucking easy! I don't even have any self-control around cute dogs. I just charge right at them OOOOAGGMYGOD, WHO'S SUCH A CUTE GOOD BOIIIIO?, look up to the owner say something acknowledging like, "How old?", "Pitbull?", or "When did you get her?" Hold up my hand in front of dog's face first for dog's inspection and then give that good ol' awesome pet that says, "If I can make your dog this happy, imagine what else these hands could do?" LOL. I don't know if the women ever go for it, but appr…
/r/seduction03/07/21 10:52 PM
1

Uhh, if you're in high school and want to know what in the fuck to do, no one knows. I wish someone sat me down in high school and told me, "Fuck it. Just ask out that girl in your class to fucking ice cream or a hike or whatever. She'll be too polite to turn you down and then you've got a date that might just go ok. Tell women how you feel and what you're interested in doing and see how much they're down for."
/r/seduction03/07/21 10:46 PM
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I don't know how in the fuck this isn't more widespread knowledge, but HOLD HER FUCKING HAND. Going from looking at her to a kiss is leaping across a damn chasm. Unsure how she feels about you holding her hand? TELL HER YOU WANT TO. Me: I'm noticing I want to hold your hand. Her: [giggles..] Ok After caressing her hand for a bit. Me: I'm noticing I want to kiss you. Her [coy, bashful]: Okay... Sometimes I'm nervous about asking for the kiss. I tell her I can't believe what a pussy I am, that I'm…
/r/seduction03/07/21 10:41 PM
2

I like to deliver the No Pressure compliment to women, but the catch is that it only works because I genuinely have no strong intentions on the women I do it to. You compliment them, while also pacing the fact that getting a compliment from a man is typically a burden for them, because now they think they have to deal with you and your interest. Most men complimenting women are secretly demands for something. (e.g. "I like your butt. Can I have your number?") So I'll ask permission for the compl…
/r/seduction03/07/21 10:33 PM
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Yeah, it depends. One woman I was going on a few dates with was just waiting all this time for me to make the first move and kiss her. At that point, we were making out furiously and she grabbed my dick and we were in bed within 10 minutes. Most women (in my experience) aren't that confident and unshamed about their desires and will wait around until they feel safe enough to escalate things. If a woman is into casual fuck buddy stuff and is DTF, yeah, she's just relating to you and sex the way y…
/r/seduction03/07/21 10:17 PM
2

I lost my virginity at 24, myself. Between then and now, I've had a string of great relationships and hookups and my number is now 12. All in all, I've found myself more satisfied with the emotional content of a relationship than the sex. As for how I did it, I don't think my technique got any better or I was any more aggressive with the women. I just finally noticing when women around me were interested and acted on it.
/r/seduction09/01/20 10:51 AM
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Yes, yes, yes, we get it. We know you have the highest superhigh standards for all the torrent of pussy rain you are trapped in. You've convinced a stranger on the internet. I'm just wondering why you're so triggered on admitting that you can have desire for a woman that you don't end up sleeping with.
/r/seduction01/12/19 10:10 PM
1

Well, you and I just have different approached to pick up. I only approach women I'm attracted to, whereas you spend time talking to women you're not interested in sleeping with.
/r/seduction28/11/19 04:19 PM
1

You're always going to care if she says, "yes". Otherwise, you never would have bothered to ask her. The issue is whether the difference between "yes" and "no" is: "I have no worth. I'll never be happy." or "Damn, I was hoping that the grocery store had my favorite kind of apples."
/r/seduction27/11/19 02:48 PM
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Yeah, that's an interesting point. I guess the idea is that adults inherently have a kind of categorical power over kids that embeds a kind of obedience, that adults possess some kind of influential confidence that kids don't have. Also, that kids, being that they're still developing are more fragile, more ineffaceable, that they could more easily pick up scars for life from nefarious, or even well meaning, characters. Beautiful women do have a lot of power, but my general sense is that that kin…
/r/seduction25/11/19 08:15 PM
1

I've been off on a number of meditation retreats and it's funny what happens to the perception of people's age: younger people appear as old as you and older people appear as young as you. We do get very prejudiced about age. That said, there's a reason for statutory laws, in that on average, women under a certain age should be protected from men with far far more power than them.
/r/seduction25/11/19 07:16 PM
1

Well, it's not ridiculous, but I think everyone of us who would love to have this opportunity is punching ourselves in the dick if this guy doesn't. Unless this girl in in high school and the guy doesn't just want to use her and dump her, I don't see the issue. 18 is the law because we've said that's the age of adult sexual consequences, when you can be trusted to make your own decisions.
/r/seduction25/11/19 05:58 PM
1

I don't why you are being such a cruel bastard and depriving this lonely young lady of good company.
/r/seduction25/11/19 02:03 PM
1

Yeah, but that comes naturally with not thinking any given woman is going to change your life.
/r/seduction25/11/19 10:59 AM
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Women who are "professionally beautiful" I'm a little cautious around for this reason: being hot is kind of their job. And on the other hand, this is her workplace and I don't to make her feel like she has to manage me. All that said, each situation is different: use your judgment.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:22 AM
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Aw come on, that's cute. Women love that shit. It's lot less threatening than "let's get drunk and hope that sex vaguely happens/doesn't happen."
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:20 AM
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I see the logic in this advice, but there's something about its disingenuousness I don't like. I think I've just decided inauthenticity was too tiring for me to keep up. Whatever, don't listen to me if it works for you.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:17 AM
2

A good friend of mine is over 50 and started dating a 19-year-old. They've been together like 4 years now. They're actually a great couple. I suppose there are a couple good reasons for your turning this girl down though: You just don't want to deal with aspects of dating an 18-year-old You just want a quick fling and are worried about hurting her when you move on You're worried about judgments you'll get from other people for seeming vaguely predatory But if you have good intentions, and none o…
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:10 AM
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Picked up a girl I wound up dating for a year at my gym. If you want to go low risk, build it up over the course of many visits, as I did. Every time, just another casual "hello" and a bit more fluff talk. The point is you'll see her again so don't be Mr. Pushy-Ass Salesman who pressures her for a number or a date or something. Be Mr. Mysterious at the Gym Who Wasn't Trying to Get Anything Out of Me. I had talked to the girl in question maybe 3 or 4 times and then I just had to say that it was t…
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:05 AM
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As someone who has "pulled" a cougar, you don't pull a cougar; you get pulled. They are called cougars for a reason: they hunt. My friend and I were hunted in favor of another pair of even younger dudes by this hot cougar and her friend solely because we seemed more like we would follow through on the deed. You just make her feel sexy. She will do the rest.
/r/seduction25/11/19 03:00 AM
1

I'm sure we all identify with this, but what's the point in posting this on /r/seduction? We don't have any control over whether women ghost us.
/r/seduction21/11/19 11:20 AM
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this will be the first date I've ever been on and I feel dread. I understand I have to just be myself, don't expect anything from it and remember she's a human just like me Great! Nervousness is your humanity, show it off! You're just nervous about showing your nervousness! Don't place too much pressure on her being the one to complete your life, but it's really sweet when two people are so nervous for each other they can barely speak. The fact that she took the initiative in messaging you (wome…
/r/seduction15/11/19 12:28 AM
1

Showing fear reduces attractiveness and increases her own fear. It only works in romantic comedies not in real life. Given what I just experienced last night, I'd just say suspend judgement and try it.
/r/seduction23/10/19 10:47 AM
1

I'm agreeing with everything you're writing. From the sounds of my third-hand read of your account, she's interested, and I agree that you've done a great job on the set up for being disinterested. Like you intuited, I would not ask the friend for her number. Yeah, it's direct, but it's a kind of wimpy direct. Your idea seems good, just having your friend arrange that the two of you be in the same place at the same time again. From there, you get in there and do your thing. Something I like to a…
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:21 AM
1

being direct with them helps polarize and you can get out of the "friendzone" and get an answer and move on. Yeah, this. It's better to just get an answer than live with not knowing what could have been. For me it's been helpful to not think of telling your interest as a sales pitch, where getting a "no" means that you've asked wrong. Think of it as an experiment, and you're just curious about which way the data goes.
/r/seduction22/10/19 08:07 PM
1

Sure! You can be upfront with that too, but language matters. "I want to bone you" is different than, "There's a physical attraction I want to follow."
/r/seduction22/10/19 05:13 PM
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E.g. "Fuck, Marry, Kill," , 2 Truths and a Lie, That Cube in the Desert personality test everyone likes so much.
/r/seduction23/04/19 09:01 PM
1

I hate that the /r/seduction community and society in general equates "can hold a conversation" to "has an infinite amount of interesting and witty things to say regardless of response." You can always keep a conversation going by asking boring questions about her, the origin of her name, where she's from, what she majored in, what her relationship with her siblings is like, what her favorite movie, food, actor, sex position is, but this doesn't do much IMHO if you don't really care about the an…
/r/seduction23/04/19 06:35 PM
1

You're backing up nothing. All you're doing is avoiding answering a question.
/r/seduction23/04/19 01:16 AM
1

Yeah, not to cast aspersions or anything, but without giving an answer, you're coming off like an armchair critic/reddit pickup artist here, buddy.
/r/seduction23/04/19 12:24 AM
1

Et tu, Brute?
/r/seduction22/04/19 08:30 PM
1

Not sure what you mean by this. If you're asking for my rate of full closes relative to women I've talked to, it's probably in the neighborhood of 0.1%. If you want to know how many women I've slept with, it's 11. And only 1 of those have I paid a bill for prior to sex.
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:54 AM
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I've had a pretty consistent difference in success among the girls I've dated between those I paid for prior to sleeping with them and those I haven't. This includes women that I've wound up dating and those who I haven't.
/r/seduction21/04/19 08:29 PM
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I see her stealing glances at me. Depends on context. I'd wager it's an IOI, since women creeped out by staring dudes generally try to avoid making eye contact with them. Flash her a smile and see if she smiles back.
/r/seduction26/03/19 08:03 PM
1

Just to waste time arguing on a community of incels, paying for it really doesn't give me any satisfaction. You just feel like you gave in.
/r/seduction24/03/19 04:18 PM
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Well, women hook up too, but honestly I spent a lot of my life just trying to increase my number and missed a lot of great connections along the way. Also, hurt a few women in the process. So, yes, don't chicken out and go non-physical when she's giving you signs of romance, but you'll both have a better time if you drop the "salesman closing a deal" act and actually respond to what she says and does.
/r/seduction12/02/19 07:27 PM
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So importantly, this is just a list of all the ways not to fuck her when she wants to fuck you. If she's legit not digging sex on the first date (and a lot of girls don't), don't think this means you've failed somehow. It can be beneficial to drop that whole goal mentality and just read where she is
/r/seduction12/02/19 01:59 AM
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Usually tell them to put their purse inside my house Yes, first time I ever got laid, the girl accidentally left her keys at my house and had to go back to get them. I was actually stupid enough to be annoyed at her initially.
/r/seduction12/02/19 01:55 AM
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You have to get turned down, act okay with it, and then honestly be ok with it. Of course, it won't always work, because it depends on her preferences too. But that's the point: she has her own desires that may not include you. It's a Chinese finger trap - you can succeed, but only by not caring if you do.
/r/seduction11/02/19 02:48 PM
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Yeah this. If you've asked her out and are now friends with her, there may be a strong natural pull towards continually trying to impress her, or to winning her over. The point is to give that up completely because you don't care. And as regards FriendZone favors, a good defense against that is just "charging" her for favors. I say, "All right, I'll help you change your flat tire, but you own me a beer/dinner." Beers are good currency for favors. You're making someone pay you for your time, but …
/r/seduction11/02/19 02:43 PM
2

So you can't hold hands, but you can sex?
/r/seduction10/02/19 10:52 PM
2

I like coffee shops too. I just sit down next to them, read a book, every once in a while ask what they're working on, get a sense if they're interested in being interrupted, based on their response. Ask for them info as I'm leaving if I think there was a decent connection.
/r/seduction23/01/19 02:55 AM
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I meant among the women who be soliciting for followers. I have friends, male and female, who Instagram and I didn't intend to apply this to them, but the idea of cold approaching a random girl over the internet because she appears interested? Seems like a great way to waste a lot of time and effort.
/r/seduction21/01/19 03:46 PM
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So I haven't tried the Instagram thing, so this is not empirical, but I had the impression that Instagram was just attention whores who use their attractiveness as bait to feel important but are a complete waste of time to try to start anything with.
/r/seduction21/01/19 02:53 PM
3

It's a waste of time and energy to get into the politics of #metoo and MR's or whether Gillette as a company is just capitalizing on #metoo. If the Gillette ad makes you feel like a shitty person, modify your approach so that you're a welcome presence instead of an obnoxious catcaller who follows random women on the street. If you feel Gillette missed the mark and is issuing an overly broad condemnation, then ignore it and move on. I'm way more argumentative than I want to be about completely me…
/r/seduction16/01/19 08:01 PM
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Yeah, this. Not sure I've got a better way of saying this than "be a safe space for declines". Always approach with the thought process "her turning me down is absolutely fine." There are women that I want to ask out, but they're at their job and I don't want pressure from strange men to be a part of her work environment, so I tell her that, "Hey, you're at work so don't want you to feel pressured, but how about we grab a drink sometime?" Whether or not this results in more success for me is bes…
/r/seduction16/01/19 07:52 PM
1

Link to moment in question.
/r/seduction16/01/19 07:38 PM
3

You mean... a community founded for neurotic risk-averse nerds who spend their spare time talking about approaching women instead of doing it are overthinkers? No! Where DO you get these ideas?
/r/seduction09/01/19 11:05 AM
15

Yeah, I dated a girl who did this to me. Best handjobs ever.
/r/seduction06/01/19 06:28 PM
78

So... you're saying... don't grab her by the pussy?
/r/seduction06/01/19 06:04 PM
5

I still regret breaking up with a particular girlfriend years ago. I keep in touch with her on the phone as friends. Every time this helps remind me that I'm still in love with the projection of her and that I did legitimately break up with her for good reason. She's a bit crazier and has stronger issues I can't fix than I was recalling. It was never as good as I sometimes idealize it to be. No actual woman will complete your life; only your fantasized projection of her can do that. There's stil…
/r/seduction04/01/19 04:59 PM
1

It is generally proper form to leave a space after a punctuation mark, like a comma or a period (many argue for two after a period). Your post categorically lacked either, despite mostly correct spelling, interspace spacing, and capitalization. I therefore conclude/joke that your spacebar is broken.
/r/seduction29/12/18 11:57 PM
3

Yeah, but if only someone would buy her a new spacebar.
/r/seduction23/12/18 02:09 PM
3

Yeah, my dad would never have gotten my mom is today's world. Every search for a job or college or woman now has an insane applicant pool because of how mechanized the workings are. Women are the employers in the dating market and they have incredibly high expectations for a mate because they think their options are infinite. In the old days, the world was a lot more boring and you were exposed to a lot fewer options in a mate. People went with what was in front of them because that was it. Now,…
/r/seduction22/12/18 04:07 PM
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It's a bit of an ironic title, since his whole point is about finding things that you do give a fuck about.
/r/seduction26/11/18 01:24 AM
13

Yeah, nothing gets a vagina moist like a properly rotated image.
/r/seduction26/11/18 01:24 AM
1

Yeah, this has helped me a lot. And in the end, putting your self worth on how many people comply with what you want like some kind of salesperson with a quota is terribly unhealthy.
/r/seduction24/11/18 11:31 PM
4

I've never experienced it, but it sounds like you had the Quagmire hookup experience.
/r/seduction18/11/18 11:29 AM
6

About the "shy" thing, do NOT use that on a woman who is actually shy. You'll just alienate her. People who are actually shy hate having attention drawn to the for their shyness. That's a great line for a conspicuously outgoing woman, though.
/r/seduction18/11/18 03:12 AM
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Yeah, people have covered the bases below but (1) maybe too much fapping and porn or (2) maybe this is just your preferences. I've personally found that I've gotten pickier with age in terms of who I'm physically attracted to. Another thought is that the problem is online dating/dating events. I too had this issue with a lot of online dates, where after the endless hours of clicking, I got a few dates, we met up, had lukewarm polite conversation with each other, but there was utterly no spark be…
/r/seduction11/11/18 01:44 PM
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Make sure to include a student's t-test and include p-values. J/k. Good luck!
/r/seduction06/11/18 01:47 PM
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Read this, but of course you are free to not read it. To double your chances of someone agreeing to your request just add “but you are free” (BYAF) to the end of your sentence. It tells the person you are asking that they are free to refuse the request. Christopher Carpenter looked at 42 studies on the BYAF technique’s effectiveness and found that it worked regardless of the type of request. The technique is only less effective when the person doesn’t answer you immediately and instead has time …
/r/seduction26/10/18 11:25 AM
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Yeah, that sounds like a totally reasonable rule and not arbitrary bullshit she made up.
/r/seduction21/10/18 04:27 PM
1

This is shown in the fact that men have basically an equal capacity to sexually discriminate. I mean, I'm not going to have this whole debate on /r/seduction but the fact that men are DRAMATICALLY less selective in casual than women in all contexts and than men selecting for long-term mates is extremely well documented. See: Robin Baker's Sperm Wars or David M. Buss's Evolution of Desire. If you are espousing a view on the basis of evolutionary psychology, it's a highly heterodox one, given that…
/r/seduction15/10/18 11:43 PM
2

generate the best possible offspring/conditions for them to grow up properly. That's not generally the explanation given. It's more like, "Can create another copy of my genes without committing energy/resources to it."
/r/seduction15/10/18 09:37 AM
2

There's a much stronger argument that monogamy came about to prevent destructive tribal in-fighting over mates and problems of paternity. Most (all?) human cultures have rituals where there is some kind of public declaration of sexual fidelity between partners and who is off limits from whom. Otherwise your tribe is constantly having fights over mates. Regardless, the fact that we have any long-term emotions at all for mates is evidence that monogamy is a natural tendency within humans that is n…
/r/seduction14/10/18 11:00 PM
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Yeah, across all cultures, monogamy does exist in one form or another, but so does infidelity. Humans are an awkward mix of both having long-term bonding, but also having contradictory urges against it.
/r/seduction14/10/18 10:54 PM
129

And when you're dating a woman, it becomes, "Man, I'm fucking this woman, but I haven't had sex with someone new and exciting in Z years."
/r/seduction14/10/18 01:52 PM
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And then you move on to, "Man, I've fucked X women but I haven't gotten laid in Y months."
/r/seduction14/10/18 01:39 PM
4

Describing catcalling as pick up is like saying that dropping a bomb on a chessboard is a chess strategy.
/r/seduction22/09/18 08:23 PM
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It's been said below, but the issue you're describing isn't really relevant to this sub, but since you're posting on a public forum, you are opening yourself up to opinions from strangers. I'm sorry that going outside is this uncomfortable experience for you, but allow me a few ideas that could make you feel a bit more empowered, though they might sound a bit harsh: I've talked with a lot of women about the question of unwelcome male attention and women have a whole spectrum of tolerance levels …
/r/seduction22/09/18 12:18 PM
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They are a lie, preying on your attraction and vulnerability. Look at their photos. Do they look like real people or just oversexed cartoons with perfect pouty everything? They're either there for marketing, to get your data, or to sell something.
/r/seduction21/09/18 02:08 AM
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Yeah, so even men get less physically attractive as they age. I've looked back on high school photos of me and man, I am younger and have more life. The catch is that a man's mental attractiveness can be seriously improved with age. The natural "don't give a shit"/unflappable vibe you've been working on deliberately just settles in naturally. You get better at reading social situations, know more fun stuff to do, better venues, and you're doing things you just like so you just look better doing …
/r/seduction20/09/18 10:05 PM
3

Always assume they talk to each other about it because they actually do. Yes! The gossip network will always run.
/r/seduction09/09/18 04:23 PM
1

.5. Notice which people you naturally get along with. I am acquaintances with a lot of people I wouldn't invite to a party.
/r/seduction09/09/18 04:22 PM
1

Yeah, if you're talking to women that you'll see again, it becomes that much more important to wait for IOIs (indicators of interest) before escalating to the next step. The only way pursuing women in your social circle can really go wrong is if a woman is now uncomfortable because of past unsolicited advances you've made.
/r/seduction09/09/18 04:21 PM
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I am seriously doubtful of the need to put a college student on tindr. It's college. Every there is already single and ready to meet people and has plenty of time/opportunities to do so. Just join some interest groups/clubs and meet a few people. Also, since it's a college campus, you will encounter the same women you approach many many times again and they will talk to each other so don't get pushy on any one approach. The key is building up familiarity through many interactions. Cold approache…
/r/seduction01/09/18 03:36 AM
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Maybe she's too young. Some women put a huge value on their first time and it being with the right person. If this is her first time, you really will probably have to wait months. She's not playing games with you. She's just nervous about actually following through with this huge thing, because she can't take it back. She is incredibly anxious about the whole thing. Just keep spending time with her, making out with her, being dirty with her, and eventually she will be comfortable with you. At ev…
/r/seduction28/08/18 09:58 PM
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Sorry, didn't mean to slam you on it, but the value of this sub is in the general principles and techniques. I see it more and more transitioning to posts asking for consulting on specific situations that haven't gone anywhere yet, that have little applicability to anyone else. Talking to girls is a neurotic process that involves uncertainty. This sub can't change that.
/r/seduction23/08/18 03:34 PM
3

/r/seduction really used to be field reports, openers, IOIs, and DHVs. Now it's /r/imahighschoolkidtalkingtoanuninterestedflakygirlandwanttoknowwhatIdidwrongbecauseshehasntrespondedinthelast5hours You won't get an answer right away. Be prepared to wait. Focus on something else. Some women deliberately wait 2+ fucking days because they don't want to show desperation and all their female friends tell them this is necessary. I know the culture now has set up this idea that everything should answer …
/r/seduction23/08/18 01:45 PM
1

Yeah, but the kiss is not the first step that you just have summon up the nerve for and do awkwardly. Check out all the other bodily contact she's giving you. HOLD HER FUCKING HAND. From how she holds your hand, it will be clear whether she's giving you a green light or a stop sign. Also, do not require that the kissing leads to sex. Just keep it slowly escalating and keep monitoring any feedback you get.
/r/seduction06/08/18 11:33 PM
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I mean, maybe it's your approach, but my experience is that women are A LOT more comfortable going as far as a make out in a public place than either (1) going somewhere private with a strange guy and (2) having that dude's parts in her. She knows as long as she's in a public place with you, she might be slurping your face off and grinding like hell, but no dangerous consequences and she won't feel judged as a slut. I remember I picked up this one girl in a Starbucks, really cute. I invited her …
/r/seduction06/08/18 09:44 PM
1

I mean, I don't really know your situation. There have never been any students for me where "friends" would describe the situation. All I can say is "go for it". If she's constantly "busy" on the dates you propose, then that's a polite decline. If she actually joins you, then she has interest in at least hanging out. All that said, some female teachers do seem interested in doing their students, given the news articles.
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:14 PM
1

Yes. If you actually mean it, then there are more effective ways to say it. The common way that has worked for 100% of the women that did not want to sleep with me that night is to not bring up sex and just not go home with me. But if you go back with me to my place or yours, yeah, the common interpretation is, "she's open to the prospect of sex".
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:34 AM
1

I am a male teacher and many of my friends are female teachers. Interest from a male student to them has categorically been met with kind of a yeck response. You will likely get a polite decline. But go for it.
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:30 AM
1

Yes. That be a bad approach.
/r/seduction06/08/18 01:27 AM
1

Choose your own adventure, read the situation, and pick something that feels genuine to you.
/r/seduction03/08/18 04:27 PM
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Yeah, my post might not be what you want to hear, but it'd probably be helpful in the long run as a guard against expectations. As a fellow meditator and longtime follower of the PUA community: Congratulations on your breakthrough, but at the same time... be wary that might not have actually broken through anything. Stories like, "I'm only into healthy girls now" or "I'm not interested in casual sex" are great feel good stories and I'd say the first 3-9 months of meditating were my fantastic hon…
/r/seduction30/07/18 07:57 PM
2

I'm a busy man with a demanding career and time-sucking hobbies. Yeah, this. I kind of feel like I'm surrounded by children who bathe in an ocean of free time and frivolity. I definitely feel that if you don't stand up for your time, other people will find ways to waste it for you and they certainly won't value it as much as you do.
/r/seduction06/07/18 03:45 AM
1

Yeah, he might have a stereotype of an Instagram user in mind, but there's no one type of woman that uses it. There's no harm in the desire to have people notice some pics you take. Sure, you could post vapid superficial shots of how fabulous your life is and how hot you are, but that's not everyone.
/r/seduction28/06/18 02:59 PM
0

That's funny, you're seriously limiting yourself if you're serious. You're generalizing about half of the service's 800 million users.
/r/seduction28/06/18 02:55 PM
2

Yeah, that works for those of us who are that big. Some of us are just big enough to where the only really satisfying position is happy baby pose.
/r/seduction27/06/18 10:12 PM
4

Teasing is also good. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Make her want more than you're doing.
/r/seduction27/06/18 08:42 PM
11

I find that taking the pressure off of trying to orgasm For sure. Also, most women don't orgasm from vaginal sex alone. At least play with her clit while you're fucking.
/r/seduction27/06/18 06:38 PM
9

Yeah, talk to the less attractive girl first is SOP.
/r/seduction29/05/18 07:27 PM
5

just have no balls to go up to one and start a conversation So everyone in the community just needs to drop this idea that walking up to strange women and starting conversation with ease is the necessary mark that someone has arrived as a man. It's not a natural act. It's hard. Often, it's the socially awkward thing to do. And it's oversold as the way to meet women. Join a few activities, get out and away from your computer, and meet some people. Do some meet ups, try a few hobbies that involvin…
/r/seduction29/05/18 02:57 AM
1

The Offspring has an answer for you..
/r/seduction28/05/18 07:05 PM
1

I have a witty reply, I suppose, but my point is that even with a relatively okay record with women, it's not really something I've completely gotten over. I hope that's encouraging for guys who feel like failures, that this mindset is fictional at pretty much any level and that it will be there, but you don't need give it credence.
/r/seduction23/05/18 01:22 PM
13

I'm risk averse, socially inept, and too busy crying tears of cum into my mattress every night.
/r/seduction22/05/18 06:17 PM
15

I'm 34, have slept with 11 women, and I still don't have an answer for this. And it still sometimes haunts me during my depressive days. Honestly, it's an impertinent question. Like asking a woman how old she is. Enough of philosophy, you want a useful answer: play it off as a compliment. Her: Why don't you have a girlfriend? You: Yeah, I know right! I'm so gorgeous/quite a catch/so charming!
/r/seduction22/05/18 04:34 PM
2

It's more like chicksand than a zone. You're trapped, using up your energy and resources futility when you could be spending them elsewhere on green pastures.
/r/seduction15/05/18 01:19 PM
1

Because 10s still feel like 5s inside. Everyone does. The issue is that a male's status is opaque to woman, so she doesn't know where you rank on her ladder. She looks at cues from you to figure out how you rank her and she responds accordingly. Do you interact with her like a normal woman or do you betray signs that you think she's out of your league? Really attractive people are not any happier or more confident than the rest of us. On average, they get better treatment from people, but they f…
/r/seduction09/05/18 05:51 PM
12

Don't sit indoors on weekends doing reddit Homework might be a bit more legit than reddit time.
/r/seduction08/05/18 12:21 AM
2

videos run at a constant rate, Pro-tip: You can click "Settings" on any video and watch at 1.25x, 1.5x or 2x speed.
/r/seduction22/04/18 10:49 PM
2

It's essentially 10 minutes about not being a Friendzone doormat. "Buy" = being nice, listening to her problems, doing her favors. You're treating her like a prostitute: favors = love and sex. Your energy, your time, your money are valuable resources. Don't give them away like they're worthless. Don't do nice favors expecting something in return. Don't hang out with people who aren't returning value to you.
/r/seduction22/04/18 10:48 PM
7

It's nice when you can filter this way. If a girl is out doing the 420 thing, she's probably pretty chill and you already have a whole base of things to talk about in terms of the common interest a la every weed story you've ever had. The problem for me is that the (1) gender ratio generally doesn't work in your favor for weed interest and (2), the fraction of stoner women I'm interested in sleeping with is probably less than that of just random women I see on the street because a lot of them do…
/r/seduction21/04/18 09:52 PM
1

Like the very first episode of Seinfeld was about this. But yeah, it sounds like she's telling you she wants something to happen.
/r/seduction20/04/18 04:39 PM
3

Alcohol and meditate more. Try to do your entire day more slowly. Spend 10 minutes a day doing literally nothing. Not like in front of a screen on reddit/facebook/instagram. Be intentionally bored. It slows you down a lot from the constant entertainment stimulation we're surrounded by. Notice in conversations when you're trying to make the conversation go where you want instead of where the other person wants. See if you can let go. All just my life experience here. No real scholarly research, s…
/r/seduction20/04/18 03:01 PM
2

I think a slight tweak could improve a lot, if you play it off as a tease/neg: You: I recognize you from somewhere - I think we matched on tindr. Her: [OMG, no/I'm not on tindr/Don't think so] You: Naw, just messing around! Of course, I bet you're too classy to be on tindr [playful sarcasm]. Seriously, though, I think I've seen you [at salsa lessons/at my favorite bar/at this awesome coffee shop]. And then you get to show off at least some aspect of what things you're interested in without it se…
/r/seduction20/04/18 12:25 PM
2

Oh man, props to these guys for an honest video. I had so many moments watching this of just awkwardness from all the dead responses, "I'm not on tindr". They got a few number pulls, but they were the weakest-ass pulls I've ever seen. I guess that's the point in that this is supposed to be funny video, but I'm not sure why you would post that here. I don't think "we matched on tindr" is a great opener for all the reasons shown here. It's kind of like a woman walking up to you and opening convers…
/r/seduction18/04/18 11:22 PM
1

It's wastes of time all the way down.
/r/seduction12/04/18 12:31 PM
4

whove I like this.
/r/seduction12/04/18 12:30 PM
1

24.
/r/seduction09/04/18 10:37 PM
4

And a lot of men want to be dominated by women. It's not a gender thing. People like to be with someone who takes care of the details, doesn't worry, and makes decisions for them. But given the society we live in, yeah, you've got much better odds as a man playing the dominating role.
/r/seduction04/04/18 12:55 AM
29

Guys, you are the chef and she is the customer eating the food. You can take her feedback on how she enjoyed the experience, but she's not going to know what went into cooking the food or how to get good ingredients. Women don't know what they want any more than men do so take what you will from a woman's advice.
/r/seduction03/04/18 05:27 PM
4

Yeah, I'd tell you more about it but I have to go meet my friends in just a sec.
/r/seduction30/03/18 09:52 AM
31

It was linked to the exact section, but basically it was just reminding everyone to use FTC (false time constraint): when you approach, let me know that have a thing you have to be at pretty soon. This takes off the whole pressure of "how much longer do I have to talk to this dude?" The guy gives a good theory of this: when you approach with FTC, you're asking her for less to begin with (lowering compliance threshold).
/r/seduction29/03/18 08:03 PM
2

Great advice with craptacular practicality.
/r/seduction29/03/18 02:52 PM
2

she doesn’t have female friends because there’s too much drama and that her past female friends always thought that she was flirting with their boyfriends. So many coded flags: I bet she was flirting with them because she's one of these girls who doesn't know how to do friendship with men and just plays up a flirty/slutty vibe to get guys to notice her, be nice to her, etc... The problem with this technique is that it is successful in getting guys to notice you (e.g. you), but for the wrong reas…
/r/seduction25/03/18 05:42 PM
1

Yeah "drama" is a self-imposed projection that dramatic people cast on people around them as reflection of who they are. People actually capable of living without drama don't bitch about it. When they encounter an actual insecure drama queen, said drama queen first off, probably won't be set off by them and second off, they'll chuckle to themselves and not give the person another thought.
/r/seduction25/03/18 05:37 PM
2

Most girls simply don't have anything that sets them apart from other people aside from how hot, sexy or pretty they are. They all wear the same clothing, they all have the same hairstyles and on and on. It's fine if you want to operate on these assumptions, but given how the human mind has heuristics that substitute a simplified model for what is actually reality, I'm going to have to disagree that it is actual reality. And even if the distinctions are unimportant to you, they are often an impo…
/r/seduction23/03/18 10:44 PM
6

Here's the problem with "you're pretty": people are really incredibly fucking obnoxiously repetitive and uncreative. If you have any notable external traits (e.g. being tall, having green hair, missing an arm), that is all you'll hear about strangers. Maybe you recall in Garden State when Zach Braff's character goes home and everyone he runs into is trying to give him some "great ideas for a movie", same idea. If you're just one more stranger saying the same shit to her because she's pretty, you…
/r/seduction23/03/18 01:14 PM
2

No way this happens without status attached to it. A guy doesn't need a good job to get the chicks, mate. ? So are you complaining about being held back by your job or not?
/r/seduction23/03/18 12:48 PM
1

I'm a high school teacher. Do you work at McDonald's or something?
/r/seduction22/03/18 02:27 PM
3

I'm 5'3", normal looking, and just a normal professional earning an unimpressive income. Sometimes women just decide they're into me. If I could figure out what did it, I would do it every time.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:32 PM
1

I didn't lose my virginity until I was 24. I turned out fine. Put a little bit of pressure on yourself to change things up and meet people, but other than that, don't worry. Move to some place where you'll find people like you and things will fall into place.
/r/seduction21/03/18 01:41 AM
22

I've experienced a few examples of this. The answer is don't question it. A fucking 9.5 l I'd been flirting with at work for like a year suddenly basically attacked me and suddenly used all her seductive powers to get me home. No explanation. Women are just like everybody else, they're going to project some great fantasy on people they don't know that they're attracted to. Whatever distinctive thing you've got that this girl likes you for, great. Just go with it.
/r/seduction20/03/18 03:50 PM
3

If that is not genuinely your energy, it can come off as needy, obsequious, and approval-seeking. Positivity is great, if it's really within you to charm someone into feeling better. For a lot of us, it's a way to perform the act of begging dog and enter Friendzonery.
/r/seduction19/03/18 02:41 PM
7

Yeah, reading OP's description, this was my feeling: boobs, ass, pussy, her hair... there was a heat map floating around the internet that I cannot find right now about where men want to touch a woman vs. where she wants to be touched and basically they're the same thing, though men slightly underutilize the nape of the neck (woman love it). Another idea I read about in a Jonathan Franzen novel is that you make a woman feel sexy by showing her how much you desire her. A woman isn't turned on by …
/r/seduction18/03/18 02:18 PM
3

Wouldn't even waste my life thinking about it. Their whole concern is that you give this much of a shit about it. Don't avoid them; don't seek them out.
/r/seduction11/03/18 04:12 PM
40

How much older? Older women (35+) often have a fear of losing their attractiveness. All you really have to do in that case is make them feel desired and sexy.
/r/seduction11/03/18 03:45 PM
2

that it doesn't really count because its her issues This is called projection and everyone does it to people they don't know - fill in the holes you don't know about the other person with extrapolations from who you are. This is why people early in relationships often say "she's like a female version of me". Also, from your comment below: they are the type of girl to assume a guy is for them and only them if they have sex but never said anything and just assumed, then i feel that's all my fault.…
/r/seduction10/03/18 05:09 PM
8

She tells me that "we're going to go over here, don't follow us, alright?" I just said something beta like, "oh, alright." Honestly, I don't think you Beta-ed out or anything and I think the bigger mistake is considering how you came off over what her experience was. Women have random dudes on them all the time and a lot of them really just won't go away. That's a crappy experience. In a situation like this, I would just always make my priority be showing them that I'm perfectly fine with them n…
/r/seduction09/03/18 03:45 PM
3

Tinder's a volatile marketplace dude. A girl will flirt the shit out of you until someone else turns up on her radar. Don't take it too personally and don't waste too much time worrying about it.
/r/seduction08/03/18 05:12 PM
1

Young girls. Beautiful? Yes. But oh, so fucking, flaky. It's like the moment they suspect you might have a penis and that they might be interested, they giggle, run, and hide, frightened by of the idea of being an adult.
/r/seduction08/03/18 04:50 PM
2

I lost my virginity at 24 and have since had 11 partners in total over the next 10 years, mostly in the form of relationships and a few hookups. I don't actively hunt because I hate the feeling of trying to sell myself and I have ways I'd rather use my time. Anyway, I feel competent with women now and I wanted to let you know that things can still turn out ok.
/r/seduction02/03/18 05:04 PM
43

It's just lost AFCs projecting their PUA into the internet world anonymously hoping to be the PUA they advise everyone to be. We're all here because we're risk-averse rationalists who want the rules to a system. If we were actually good at this shit, we'd be out doing it instead of jerking off on the concepts. Nerds giving dating advice to nerds. I include myself. It's much easier to sit around here and sharpshoot someone else's approach than actually get out and try it because it involves takin…
/r/seduction23/02/18 08:51 PM
4

In high school, lol. That shit's almost always only in the movies. I've been to like 13 weddings and the only one that met in college is divorced now.
/r/seduction22/02/18 09:00 PM
9

Thanks. I appreciate the share and it takes a lot to share what you're trying on the internet with people who will pick it apart. That said, I've used direct game of "Oh, I just wanted to talk to you." It usually gets some giggles from her, as happened with you guys, but then she's a bit on her guard about the whole thing so there's a trade off. Once you've jumped off the cliff, I feel like it's hard to get the kind of substantive connection needed to have her to want to follow up. Keep up the s…
/r/seduction22/02/18 03:39 PM
13

But getting the number is not what counts in pick-up. Yeah, took me a while to learn this. It's not like a video game where a number is a low-level prize, a date is a higher level prize, and getting laid/girlfriend is highest-level prize. A number is literally worth nothing if she wasn't happy about giving it away. In fact, it has negative value, because you're going to waste your time talking to a girl a that likely won't pan out. If you want to keep score, I think the best measure is, "Did I m…
/r/seduction22/02/18 03:35 PM
1

That sounds fine. If she's interested, she won't let the opportunity pass.
/r/seduction13/02/18 08:59 PM
1

I'm afraid I might have been to eager and scared her away. Oh man, I remember being like this. I'd say you're fine and you didn't do anything wrong. Just give her enough space to show interest if she's got it instead of it being you push-push-pushing. It doesn't look like she's showing a lot of interest now, though.
/r/seduction13/02/18 05:34 PM
12

There's the issue of risk, mentioned below. There's also the question of whether she's interested in you or is just being an attention whore who is using her sex appeal for power, knowing you'll treat her nice, do favors for her, etc... AKA friendzone. She's 20 so she probably sees this all as cute and more playful than it is. She flirts with you, you flirt back, but don't take it seriously. If you want to go for it, try a little KINO and seeing if she reciprocates. But again, the risk of shitti…
/r/seduction07/02/18 03:53 PM
5

Yeah, a hijab is the kind of usual item a guy would not take an excuse to comment on. As a relatively ignorant white dude, my general notion about women in hijabs is that (1) they may get discrimination/uncomfortable looks from racist people and (2) their background on dating/sex is more conservative than mine. This causes my instinct to be a bit reverential and polite and to view not so much as prospective mates, since they may be less willing to date outside their ethnoreligious group, and may…
/r/seduction01/02/18 04:02 PM
2

I've gone on a "friends" date with a girl and then we wind up sleeping together 3 dates later. "Friends" is girltalk for "can we meet up without any pressure on me?" As for the East Asian context, yeah, it is a common experience that when you date an Asian international woman, nothing happens. For a while. Like a month or 2. That is the culture. If you have interest in her, you can keep meeting up with her, but I would point you in another direction if you want to hook on American/Western timesc…
/r/seduction26/01/18 01:51 AM
1

Yeah, sounds like he's going for the old conversation sponge approach. Let me just copy + paste my post before about being flirty: Yeah, I have a great deal of experience being in your shoes. The problem is that you get FriendzonedTM because you make polite boring conversation to them and so you just look like another defanged male that she won't think of sexually. Advice that would have been great for 16-year-old me, which I hope is applicable enough to you: Notice when you're sucking up or oth…
/r/seduction16/01/18 09:54 PM
14

Agree with everything, but here's my story: I was dating a woman and an acquaintance was all on her with the subtlety of a fart. I was amused, a bit flattered, so I let it go on. It didn't become anything, but he would gchat with her and did so a couple times off the record, which she saved. She showed me. It was pretty bad and she didn't realize it. I told her this guy was probably getting off on this and asked if wanted me to say something. I did and he backed off pretty quickly, DEFENDING his…
/r/seduction23/12/17 01:22 PM
14

Yeah, I have a great deal of experience being in your shoes. The problem is that you get FriendzonedTM because you make polite boring conversation to them and so you just look like another defanged male that she won't think of sexually. Advice that would have been great for 16-year-old me, which I hope is applicable enough to you: Notice when you're sucking up or otherwise just being nice because you want her to like you. This can be hard, because it's an automatic response in many situations, b…
/r/seduction22/12/17 03:57 PM
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