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Really depends on what you are defining as the red Pill. What a lot of what the red pill was is now broadly mainstream opinion. Evolutionary psychology is now widely accepted by even reasonable feminists like Louise Perry and Mary Harrington and both of their recent feminist books are a reaction to changes in dating and the differences between men and women. do you think these men are actually sleeping with that many women? Is the red pill working? For some guys, yeah. If your aim in life is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:14 PM
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I don't remember saying that. I think the red and blue pill are stupid which is why I'm flared up as purple pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:35 PM
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I'd say the ones who are deluded are called bluepilled
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:43 AM
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I assumed when you described cat ladies as stereotypical “cat ladies” are strong, self-sufficient women with backgrounds in STEM, the military, or law (ie, traditionally fields that require high levels emotional regulation and commitment). You were referring to normal women who own cats not mentally ill horders who thinks the local pigeons are stealing her spoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:34 AM
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The black pill refers to the idea that attraction is an immutable characteristic. The red Pill is the idea you can hack your level of attractiveness. Incels are blackpilled. They believe there is nothing they can do about their situation or in their words "it's over and it never even began" there is normally a path to inceldom that goes from bluepill to redpill to black pill. When I think of extreme cat ladies, I think of kinda weird old ladies who sit at home knitting and call the cops over ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:00 AM
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is that not what a cat lady looks like No. Cat lady is really short for "crazy cat lady" just like incel refers to a man who is black pilled, a user of incel forums and unattractive not a guy who is involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:43 AM
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Then they're not stereotypical cat ladies. The stereotype is the cat lady from the Simpsons or f is for family. If I said I know some involuntary celibate men who are stereotypical incels that are in STEM, the military, or law (ie, traditionally fields that require high levels emotional regulation and commitment). You'd say then they're not typical incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:17 AM
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No idea. My point is that everyone understands that letting a bunch of guys blow loads up you is gross. No one wants to marry the man or woman who does that. I'd be impressed with a guy or girl who'd fucked a bunch of attractive woman. I'd be grossed out by a guy or girl who's been fucked by a bunch of attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:09 PM
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Oh I'm sorry someone was responding to me on the politics sub and then blocked me and I thought it was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:28 PM
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You're attacking me and posting and deleting this. 1 dont know why you think its my job to cater to your worldview. I dont work for you. Like wtf???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:11 PM
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I was simply describing what a cat lady is as you seemed confused about the term. Is there a particular reason why you are so mad at me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:05 PM
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I'd say it has more to do with being emotionally erratic to the point that people are unable to put up with you resulting in a life with cats as they're the most commitment you are able to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 05:47 PM
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This just shows a complete lack of understanding. I as a man could right now sign up to ginder and given my proximity to a city with a very high population of gay men could easily have my asshole creampied a dozen times before the end of the day. I could not however sign up to a dating app and fuck a dozen women by the end of the day. Both men and women understand this and both stright men and stright women would rather not commit to either men or women who have have their orifices filled with r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:22 PM
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Same reason why women set their height preferences on dating apps to 6 foot+. You can make arguments that being tall isn't a physical advantage in a relatively safe world (we're not being attacked by rival tribes) and with guns as the great equaliser but your monkey brain doesn't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:47 AM
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the issue I see is most men go though an awkward stage and they improve themselves to become more appealing, most guys that are great partners now were once losers or at least felt like losers. Porn has already done a number on these guys and more men than ever are checking out. If you add AI girlfriend to that issue it's going to make things way worse. you can say "oh well they're just losers lol" but the reality is that this is going to be the perfect tool for limbic capitalism. the australian…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:37 AM
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I'd like to see this tested. Show 100 randomly selected men being rejected and 100 randomly selected women being rejected and see the percentage of each who get mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:06 PM
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I think uni grads are rightfully upset because they are still told to go to college and "work hard" for results that never come How is that difficult from the blue pill? Arent women being lied to as well? Yep a lot. I recently read the case against the sexual revolution and feminism againt progress. Both written by staunch feminists. I agree with almost everything they write.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 12:02 PM
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All you have to do to not be fat is not eat junk food. Pretty much everyone was thin in the 70s. Yes earning lots of money is hard as there is a lot of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:05 PM
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Straight women are broadly not interested in dating men who are bisexual and have had their asshole creampied by dozens of men. I'm 100% Percent sure the reason is because women are just jealous of bi guys who are sexually liberated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:00 PM
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The number of men not interested in marriage or even dating is going up and up. It seems like men are quietly checking out as women become increasingly promiscuous. Sources https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2021/comm/never-married-on-the-rise.html See graphs https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/02/13/for-valentines-day-5-survey-findings-about-singles-from-pew-research The percentage of single Americans who are looking for a relationship or casual dates is lower than in 2019, es…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:04 AM
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If you want to argue that men are silly for falling for the propaganda then I certainly agree with you and it's even more stupid now young people have access to the Internet. there is no bluepill propaganda. mainstream society was never conspiring to make men less fuckable to women. I never said it was to make men less fuckable. It is to turn them into good productive drones by presenting them with a just world fallacy. I think the blue pill is good for socity as it encourages the idea that bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:51 AM
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Who's lying to university students. Anyone can see that university degrees don't guarantee a job. They have no right to be annoyed that the 70k they spent getting a masters in philosophy meant the only employment they could find was at Starbucks. You're making up a fantasy version of women that women never promised you, I'm not making up anything. Nice gaslighting though. The entire culture is saturated with blue pill propaganda. feel bitter and vindictive and justify your hatred and abuse of us…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:56 AM
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Because men are being lied to. Why are university graduates mad that they are stuck doing entry level jobs post graduation? Because they were told their degree that they spent tens of thousands of dollars on would result in a high paying job. If you tell someone "if you do A B & C then you'll get X Y & Z" and that turns out to not only not true but clearly a lie you're going to be mad that you were lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 11:29 AM
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I means it's a basic cost benifit analysis. There's a huge difference in how you get treated when you're viewed as attractive. I had a "glow up" in my late teens and the difference was staggering.
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 07:14 AM
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Where do you draw the line? Do you class cosmetic dental surgery under your umbrella? What about fixing an under bite/over bite? Jaw fillers? Nose job? Skin removal for people post weightloss?
/r/AllPillDebate28/04/23 04:52 AM
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How does meeting online have more presuppositions than meeting in person? Your Occ am z razor (sic) argument is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:29 PM
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Again it's not clearly in decline as all your evidence shows is migration from 1 app to others. The main app showing a 5% decrease after everyone was locked in their houses so unable to meet people. I also don't really see how Instagram being effectively an online dating profile is any different. The reality is that people are meeting and dating online more than ever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 06:25 PM
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Compared to pandemic sure but still up from pre pandemic. As I said it's a bull market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:50 PM
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From the article Bumble increased downloads by 20 per cent last year to 21.1mn, according to data.ai, while fledgling app Thursday, which encourages in-person meetings, increased from under 1,000 downloads in 2020 to more than 200,000 last year and a further 100,000 in the first quarter of this year. So yeah people are moving from tinder to other apps, no one argued social media is dead because of migration from MySpace to Facebook. It also explains that there was a dip post covid but that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:37 PM
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Can you please provide the evidence for your statements regarding people moving away from apps? Do you think meeting online via a Web 2.0 sites like Instagram is significantly different from an app?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:08 PM
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As a University student you are aware that anicdotes are not good data? I'm not going to tell you to ignore what you see and hear but you need to look at the actual evidence. Do you accept the evidence that I linked in my previous post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:40 AM
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https://twitter.com/MarkShmulevich/status/1150104869228859393 here's the data and while you're correct it's not the majority it is the plurality by a long way. Also remember that most people don't go to college so they're not doing what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 09:04 AM
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Poor tim pool.
/r/AllPillDebate19/04/23 07:02 PM
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You don't want the government to know everything your dna says about you. Let's say you have a genetic predisposition to drug addiction and that counting against you even though you don't use drugs. The film gattica covers this quite well and is a great film.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:05 AM
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Options Kill children The father pays for his kid Men who are not the father get taxed to pay for another guys kid. Pick one.
/r/AllPillDebate08/04/23 06:39 PM
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several factors. The stats show a discrepancy so that number has to come from somewhere. The fact that we know from dating stats that a small number of men get a massive amount of matches we know that men are higher in sociosexuality so would rather date multiple women given the opportunity. We know that young women are less likely to settle and have higher standards for casual relationships than long term relationships. We know the stats on male vs female sexlessness is vastly different so we k…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:21 PM
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You make an outlandish claim by calling it incel content, You refuse you back it up with evidence then try to call people emotional for calling you out on making baseless claims. You're pretty pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:01 AM
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I disagree. Casual dating often means people are dating more than 1 person. Since there's a lack of eligible young men it makes sense that given their high demand they would be dating multiple women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:49 PM
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Unlike women who totally don't become fat and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:44 PM
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This assumes 1:1 dating. A much more likely scenario is multiple women in on/off relationships with attractive, high status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:41 PM
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I certainly agree that most women would rather be single than date the bitter guys on here. I also don't blame men who don't wish to be treated like a commodity as described on female dating strategy. If my options were to be single or be treated like a resource, I'd choose single. It's also where I have a lot of empathy to "femcels" that a lot of the guys on here say don't exist. I think that the option to be treated as a fuck doll or not have a relationship isn't really an option at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:42 PM
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Sure but would you be surprised if some girl who wanted a relationship with you and you laughed at her rejected you when you said you're looking for someone to clean your house and raise your kids as your done hooking up with attractive girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:21 PM
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Like decaprio?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:06 PM
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But what does that question mean? Are you asking if he'll date absolutely any woman in the world as long as she was born in 2001?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 12:02 PM
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But you get that's not soley dating someone because of their age right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure everyone has an age bracket they are willing to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:46 AM
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That sounds a bit sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 09:25 PM
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Because if he cheats you get half his shit also he made a declaration in front of his friends, family and work colleagues so it looks pretty shitty if he starts banging other women. It's not fool proof but it's a lot better than expecting commitment from a guy you just met off tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:42 PM
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https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/subjects/psychology/evolutionary-psychology-msc/ At one of the best universities here in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:41 AM
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I work in scientific research and you are entirely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:25 AM
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You don't understand how science works. You are viewing it as taking evidence then writing a hypothesis to fit it. That is not how science is done. As I explained above it's hypothesis, experiment, results, conclusion. If you start at conclusion then use evidence to fit it that's not science and not how evolutionary psychology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:16 AM
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I think you simply don't understand evolutionary psychology. Let's look at a study into children's toy preferences. Feminists/blank slate theorists believe girls play with dolls and boys prefer objects because of society. Evolutionary psychologists believe it's an evolved trait. So the scientist gathers evidence. He looks over history and finds that we can see writings, drawings, sculptures and toys children are buried with and find it matches. Next he looks across cultures completely separated …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:44 AM
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I think you simply don't understand evolutionary psychology. Let's look at a study into children's toy preferences. Feminists/blank slate theorists believe girls play with dolls and boys prefer objects because of society. Evolutionary psychologists believe it's an evolved trait. So the scientist gathers evidence. He looks over history and finds that we can see writings, drawings, sculptures and toys children are buried with and find it matches. Next he looks across cultures completely separated …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:08 AM
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I think this is incorrect. It's based in the west much more on group identity be it class, sex, race, sexuality etc with progressive leftism focused on intersectional group identity so moving from the struggles of black people to the problems of black gay disabled trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:25 AM
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I go the mall pretty frequently. The amount of times I see a couple where the guy either looks meh or below that is pretty significant. "I'm a 6/10, finding a partner is...extremely difficult". https://www.scribbr.co.uk/bias-in-research/survivorship-bias-explained/#:~:text=Survivorship%20bias%20occurs%20when%20researchers,a%20subset%20of%20the%20population. Here's that answer. Real life is different. You don't have women walking around with measuring sticks (outside of TikTok content) looking to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:01 AM
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Younger people can have different values to older people. Men and women are sexually different. Men are much more able to separate sex and feeling than women and women are generally much more sexually selective than men. A man who has average sociosexuality for men is the correct match for a woman who has average sociosexuality for a woman. However when you look at sociosexuality in men and women they vastly different. You can't ride the pussy carousel and then settle down when you're washed up …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:39 AM
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That clearly hyperbolic but can you please explain what exactly is unrealistic about having casual relationships with more sociosexual women followed by a long term relationship with a less sociosexual woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 08:35 AM
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I don't think "no one cares about your preference" is a fair interpretation. People do care about other people's preferences especially when they reflect the preferences of larger society. If a woman says "I only want to date guys over 6ft" shorter guys don't get mad at her, they get mad at the fact that preferences shown on dating apps and that women then becomes a target for their resentment. It's no different when men talk about not wanting to date promiscuous women. They get mad at the guy p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:22 PM
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Not very high, nor is my wife's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:06 PM
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I think one of the issues is that people view preferences as bad. If I express that I don't want to marry a woman who slept with everyone she's met then I'm a slut shaming, misogynistic, incel who can't handle a strong independent woman who knows what she wants and that I'm clearly insecure/threatened and I likey have a tiny penis/am a manlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:33 AM
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You believe they're infants, but if you kill them early enough for your liking it's okay. The majority of abortions occur in the first trimester according to statistic Right but around 20% aren't which is around 150,000 a year. because the fetus has severe medical problems that couldn't be found earlier. When exactly does it become wrong for a doctor to perform a medical procedure? In cases unlike the above or mothers life is not at risk. aka elective
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:12 AM
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I'm not really interested in getting into the philosophical debate with you. The vast majority of people understand that abortion after a certain point is wrong in all but the most extreme circumstances. You can try to sanitise the language all you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:01 AM
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You can try to cleanse it as much as you like but it's killing an infant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:45 AM
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Right not saying that contraception means financial abortion should be illegal is equal to saying that female contraception is available so abortion should be illegal. Personally I mostly disagree with both abortion and financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:05 AM
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Women can get sterilised too so does that mean that abortion should be illegal because if you didn't want to get pregnant you should have simply got sterilised?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:13 AM
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I had a very similar experience when I started working out in my late teens. I was previously very tall but rail thin and complely ignored by girls. Suddenly I was funny and interesting to the point I thought they were mocking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:09 PM
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No. The issue at the moment is the number of very attractive men is much lower than the number of women interested in casual sex. The vast majority of women are not interested in casual sex (this can be shown where there're more men than women in an environment there's much less casual sex as women have more control of the market and in gay vs lesbian numbers of casual sex). If the stats stay as they are shown to in gay and lesbian sex studies that around 80% of men and around 20% of women are h…
/r/AllPillDebate02/03/23 10:09 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:52 PM
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Scott Adams kinda shows they're not free.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:38 PM
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By that standard should any group be wary of any other group if they commit a disproportionate amount of crimes against their group? Or should we attempt to judge people by the content of their character?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:27 PM
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As I said though I don't necessarily think this is a good thing for women as like OP pointed out the worst of men is off putting. I don't really want TRP and incel forums to be the flag ship of male culture. The fact that the female equivalent is the flag ship for female culture isn't great for normal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:19 PM
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Sure in exactly the same way that men reading much of tumbler/reddit style feminism, FDS dating, seeing their fathers or at least their friends fathers get fucked by the divorce and family court systems, looking at dating stats, reading evolutionary psychology even the evo psych by feminists, watching the constant barrage of anti male films and TV etc etc. The difference is how many women are reading TRP and getting pinkpilled vs men watching Netflix/YouTube and getting red/blackpilled. There is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:04 PM
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https://www.harbourfamilylaw.co.uk/how-many-marriages-end-in-divorce-in-the-uk/ It's actually 42% of first marriages and the divorce rate is dropping. I agree with you that men are becoming more risk averse but that means choosing better.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 10:06 AM
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Science is now cope?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 04:21 PM
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like the tinder match stats, the data here https://old.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/10wr80j/the_top_5_of_men_have_more_sex_than_the_bottom_50/, the data showing women find 80% of men unattractive and as you said attraction is the most important thing to young women. https://archive.vn/yhvPK only34% of male student saying they've had sex while at uni. That's the majority of young men being celibate by choice I'm guessing you're arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:07 PM
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Go for it, I've read his work and listened to him explain it on multiple podcasts. He's pretty clear on the stats and the explanations behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 02:04 PM
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It's not a harem fantasy go look at the stats.. I'm saying that an 18 year old can get a guy to commit but probably not a guy in the top percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:51 PM
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I don't think that's the issue at all especially since women vastly outnumber men on collage campuses and in cities. Women would rather be single than date guys they don't find attractive and guys woman do find attractive are in high demand and short supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:38 AM
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i knew a 20 year old girl who dated 15 year old boy. I know a person who lived til 95 who smoked everyday. What that teaches us is nothing other than rules have exceptions that are statistically irrelevant. under 20 usually care more about looks than wealth. So then they're dating the hot 21 year old guy who's in on off relationships with multiple 18-19 year old girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:34 AM
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The keys word here is commited and the key number is the missing numbers that are men 30-35 which a huge number of women aged 25+ who will be dating. If a 31 year old guy is in an off on relationship with 3 27 year women then those 3 women may all consider themselves dating and are missing from your stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 11:24 AM
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women date men who are on average older and multiple women are in casual relationships with high value men. No 18 year old guy is hooking up with a 24 year old woman as 24 year old women don't want to fuck 18 year old men. 18 year old women do have the option to date 27 year old men. So what's up with all those single women? Why are they not just dating the guy they want? Because the number of desirable men is lower than the number of single women. This whole sub is full of studies showing that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:58 AM
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nships with 20% of men, even if they want to, small scale dating choices are also affected by supply and demand. Just because the 27yo is desired by all women 18 to 30, doesn't mean all of them could just date him. there was recent data that showed most young men are single, I'd be very surpised if you made a tinder profile of an 18 year old girl that you couldn't find 22 year old guys more than happy to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:56 AM
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More attractive, taller and physically fit have more free market, anti social welfare, pull yourself up my your boot straps mentalities. There's multiple studies showing this and you tend to get a lot of left wing cope like [this]{https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5e3z7/gym-bros-more-likely-to-be-right-wing-assholes-science-confirms}
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:43 AM
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incorrect. dr william costello incels research showed they are more likely to be left leaning and it goes inline with there socialist views on dating that women should be a shared resource not horded by the top %
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 09:39 AM
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As I understand it red pillers promote a world of traditional relationships but also accept that is not the culture they live in and there is nothing they can do to change it; therefore the best solution is thrive in the environment they do exist in not pretend they live in a different environment. it's not up to redpillers to solve the crisis of single mothers.
/r/AllPillDebate18/02/23 01:50 PM
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Economic support from who? The guys who you don't want a relationship with because they don't meet your standards? If you want economic support then get married. If you start introducing some kind of single man tax then we've seen what happens; the single men leave because they're single and they can afford to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:56 AM
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The math doesn't add up on that add up on that. The number of women let's say 26-29 dating guys say 30-34 is not 50% of women aged 18-29.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:51 AM
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And 10k a year is massive amount if compared to the global average. Does that mean that's an impressive income in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 10:21 AM
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Are you going to edit your original post to say *over 34 too?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:11 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/03/21/its-not-just-you-new-data-shows-more-than-half-young-people-america-dont-have-romantic-partner/ Most men don't have a partner, what makes you think being 5'7 gives you an advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:24 PM
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You don't think that the It takes two to tango. Attitude is a societal issue where we shift blame though the Liberal idea that as long as everyone says that they concent then it's OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:03 PM
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Couldn't you argue this for a huge number of genuinely abusive relationships? Just because a person can leave doesn't make manipulating them morally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:23 PM
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“Preference” implies that there is a choice I have a preference for ice-cream over eating dog shit. The fact I have no interest in one and a lot of interest in the other doesn't change the fact that's a preference. Did I choose to prefer ice cream over dog shit or was I born that way? Does the answer to the question matter? Could I be talked into thinking ice cream tastes better than dog shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 06:54 AM
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I consider both a sexual preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 05:23 AM
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But you can change who you're attracted to right? I mean if what your saying is true then other people can change what you're attracted to. Would you agree with the statement "under the right circumstances with the right treatment and stimuli you can make people attracted to different people"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:22 PM
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A large institution. I thought most large companies offered occupational sick pay?
/r/PussyPassDenied24/01/23 06:28 PM
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Sick pay in the UK is decent as is. If you are ill most companies will give you as much fully paid time off as you need. They were right not to give it some silly protection.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/01/23 06:14 PM
4

So gay conversion therapy works?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 12:38 PM
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Have you met women? If they do anything it has to be discussed ad nauseum.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 05:56 PM
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ok? They also want to not be poor or have failing bodies and have friends and have peers who respect them and have the ability to travel, take risks, have hobbies, be well read, have good relations with their families etc etc. It's not all about smashing pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:26 PM
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I agree doing things to get laid is lame. That doesn't make working on yourself a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:22 PM
1

Cool and I'm sure you agree it's my job as a dad to pay for my children that I have with my wife right? It's not my job to pay for Karen's kids who she had with Chad because she wanted to impress Chad by letting him blow loads in her on the first date. I should not have to take food from my children's plates for Chads kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:05 AM
2

So most guys move in with their girlfriends and do less housework than when they were living alone? Well I have been living with the wrong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:17 PM
1

I've always been a bit confused by this. If a man and a woman are in a relationship but have separate apartments and it takes the guy 1 hour a day to do all his chores because he's pretty minimalist and it takes the woman 3 hours a day to do her chores because she has loads of clutter and shit is that her doing more work than him? What if they move in together and he continues to do 1 hour a day and she continues to do 3 hours a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:49 PM
1

By saying "hi I found your posts on here really fascinating, I'm also an incel and it'd be great to chat and get yo know you better"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:30 PM
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That's not what I read. I've seen incels do posts where they try asking out femcels and get no response or brushed off. femcel = chadsexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 11:33 AM
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Yeah there's being grossed out because someone is bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 10:47 AM
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I wouldn't sleep with a man because I don't find them physically attractive. What's not attractive about a guy you where attracted to 5 mins ago because you found out he is attracted to men as well as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:42 AM
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she says with 0 evidence. I've dated Bi girls and I just didn't give a shit any more than I did that they'd previously dated guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:40 AM
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I think if a 6'5 270lb rugby player had spend his 20s fucking the shit out of twinks they'd be just as grossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:38 AM
5

But in real like doing X doesn't always result on Y outcome. It's not chess it's chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:20 AM
4

Didn't they have a bunch of issues because lonely guys kept trying to date them and they were like "ewwww I don't mean ugly guys!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:15 AM
3

And if they were doing on facebook would you say that's okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:35 AM
14

How would you feel about super popular "are we dating the same woman" groups where jilted men make up lies about their exs and post their private information?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:02 AM
0

Prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:54 AM
1

I'm sure he is but isn't that a bad thing that he was able to get away with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:51 AM
1

Then why get married? Again you may as well say "contact law being made unenforceable doesn't matter just have agreements with people who you trust"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:33 PM
1

if you want someone who regards it as a binding for life, rather than as a binding for as long as it's fun, then make that clear. It's not a matter of that though. That's like me saying that it doesn't matter that the contract that you signed can be voided at any point by the other party no matter if you are in breach of contract or not. Contract law is incredibly important and the fact that you can't just buy let's say a phone on a contract then ring up and say you're breaking the contract and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:11 PM
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Because FDS is no longer active so isn't going to show up anymore. They got told being sexist was againt reddit rules so they woddled off to their troll cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 06:05 PM
1

My question is am I forced into the relationship you described where I'm totally taken care of or is this just one of any number of options on the table? Like if I want to do my own thing I'm free to do that and if I want a woman to buy me everything I want and be my mommy then I can pick that too? Do the old divorce rules apply that if she like cheats on me or hits me or doesn't give me enough money then I have ground for divorce and I can take her house, car, kids, half of savings, investments…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:07 PM
2

Would you be entirely free to not marry and make your own way in the world having casual or semi serious relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:02 PM
3

all average men basically are invisible to most women and if they can’t drastically change themselves, they might as well resign themselves to a life of quiet desperation I wouldn't say drastic I'd just say it takes a long time. You could buy a house with a job your got with a high school diploma in the 70s good luck buying a family home with a single income today. 84% of working women told ForbesWoman and TheBump that staying home to raise children is a financial luxury they aspire to. So while…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:04 PM
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https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/femaledatingstrategy femaledatingstrategy Has the highest overlap with this sub. It's not just RP guys it's pink pill feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:56 AM
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It's a matter of demanding more money from the government aka from men while offering nothing in return. Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free or even better get the government to steal from people and give it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:31 AM
6

I mean you share cutlery.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 10:04 AM
0

https://fullfact.org/economy/are-women-paying-60-less-income-tax-men/ Women pay 60% less tax and receive significantly more in government spending. Yeah single moms supporting kids Don't moan about being a single mother. Get fucking married if you want to have children. It's not child free men's responsibility to pay for your bad decisions. It's a mans job to support HIS children, The issue that men have is women getting themselves knocked up then demanding men who aren't the father to pay for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 07:49 AM
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Right so if we both paid $100 into a pot a month but I got $130 of it spent on me and you got 70 spent on you would you be happy with that or would you rather just keep your 100 and I keep mine and we get rid of the pot idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 09:25 PM
1

The government isn't forcing you to have kids. If you don't want them don't have them. If I don't want to pay taxes I get sent to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:53 PM
1

Men typically offer women their labour. Men are net contributors and women are net receivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:25 PM
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Isn't that simply confirming ops post? An environment where the only reason to work is to consume current product and get excited for next product isn't a very good environment. It's just going to result in people particularly young men basically checking out of society. I can understand working long hours and/or a difficult job to support your family, I don't understand doing it to buy the latest gadgets. I mean, I'm not working my ass off to get educated and get a good job to make tons of mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:54 PM
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Isn't that just going to result in a society that only cares about owning things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:24 PM
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No it means that they are pumping and dumping those women. Male mating strategy is not to immediately jump into a relationship with someone high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:20 PM
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Wrong. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness Happiest women are married women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 08:19 AM
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If I get an onyx wedding ring it doesn't mean that gold has less value. The vast majority of people are attracted to the same attractive people. What are the latest tinder stats? Wasn't it something like the top 3% of men are getting 90% of the right swipes and that women only swipe right on 5% of men, which are basically all the same 5% all women are swiping right on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 05:08 AM
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I think I'd need to see a description of an average woman before I agree with you. When I was in college and highschool, the average woman around me was smoking hot. But now that I'm a bit older I have to disagree, the average woman doesn't look all that great. It's also hard to make an apples to apples comparison on this since men and women are valued for different things. Honestly I'm not sure what exactly they look like. Probably slightly overweight with some college and earning about 30k. Go…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:22 PM
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I think the difference is that the average looking, average earning, average everything guy would be happy with a woman on the same level as him. The average woman would not. I'd argue that most men in relationships are pretty content with what they've got even though it may not be ideal. Maybe but I'm if the opinion most men in relationships or at least most young men in relationships are capable of finding another relationship. Given they likely have options they may not be as content as you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 03:56 PM
1

I don't think most men can get a girlfriend as easily as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 02:27 PM
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Same people who decide a bar of gold is worth more than my morning shit. The market decides.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 02:08 PM
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Women can be in a relationship if they want to but they can't be in a relationship with the guy they want to be in a relationship with. It's like me saying that I could eat dinner at a restaurant every night so I'm choosing to cook for myself but failing to mention that the restaurant I can afford to eat at every night is McDonald's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:59 AM
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Which is why I'm saying it's different, but obviously when the husband breaks the contract compensation can be expected as she's not being paid You can't choose for someone else. My wife doesn't pick if I work and I don't pick if she does. We are choose what we each do and try to support each other in our choices. I don't think husbands are the victim I think anyone including women like Adele or Britney are the victim of an entirely unjust system. I don't understand why because a person is doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:02 PM
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A slave doesn't sign up to slavery, a slave can't leave, a slave isn't choosing everything that's happening. If you choose to get married then choose to quit your job then choose to have children they are all up to you. I don't understand the attitude that because someone supported you they owe you forever or because you helped them they owe you forever. I was supported by my dad and I'd help him out with his company and I'd do chores around the house. I never expected alimony after I left the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 02:27 PM
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How are wives who don't work supporting themselves unless their husbands are giving them money?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 01:27 PM
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Isn't that like saying I have to keep paying an employee after they quit because they helped build my business? Once the contract has been made void then you each go your own way completely separated. They are no longer expected to work and in turn you are no longer expected to pay them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:26 PM
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You are using it to mean the stage before. No I'm saying they asked them out the other person responded with something ambiguous like "I really like you but I'm not sure I want to ruin our friendship" so the friendzoned person attempts to win over the other party. When the person is lying about being a friend. They never lied, they caught feelings and expressed them. let's say you have a girl and she's friends with a guy. She catches feelings for the guy and he says to her "I find you really att…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:25 PM
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Friendzoned colloquially describes a relationship where 1 person is trying to win over the heart of a friend. It's not really a gendered term woman can and often are either friendzoned or fuckzoned by men. It's the unequal relationship that matters with one person trying to win the other person over. The reason why people consider it immoral is you are using a person's feelings for your self gain often using techniques like bread crumbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:55 AM
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I'm not arguing all male and female friendships are like this anymore than all friendships are like the example above. There's a big difference between being friendzoned and being friends. I'm not sure exactly why you seem to be insecure about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:47 AM
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It's like having a lapdog. You know when cooler kids get a less cool kid and they get them to run errands for them and they make fun of them but the less cool kid really wants to be part of the cool kid group but the cool kids will never let them really be part of the group? Yeah that's the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:07 AM
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Who sets the value is any given market? The buyer, things are worth what people are willing to pay and what people want. I could equally say your value is not your sense of humour or your interests. We are valuable based on what others value us on. Attraction is a value. Other values are sacrifice, determination, perseverance, conscientiousness. All of these are shown by being in good shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:42 AM
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The statement in question is: Men have to create their value, women have to preserve their value. you seem to me to the stating that this is incorrect and that becoming a fit, healthy, physically capable man is not creating value. To me those things are values just like being funny, entrepreneurial, kind etc are values. I'm curious as to exactly what you mean by the lack of a hero's journey when as i understand it all it's about is doing something that you find uncomfortable/difficult and coming…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 09:29 AM
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So you think if you took 200 unfit guys and had 100 of them work out for a year and the other 100 carry on as they were they'd see no difference in their dating success?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:36 AM
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💯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:48 PM
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I disagree with wired and there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. A shrinking aging population has a lot of issues as are playing out in Japan. I answered the question to if I have kids in my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 04:40 PM
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See https://imgur.com/dN86Uzt.jpg for more information.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:22 PM
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Right? That would be called choosing work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:21 PM
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This is not true, behind married couples single women are happiest. Women that were happy before marriage are also happy once they bounce back from the divorce, All the happiness studies I've seen show women becoming progressively unhappy. Please enlighten me. unlike divorced men that seem to never be able to achieve the same happiness they did in their relationship. Don't divorced men tend to end up doing much better than their exs? Divorced women who choose not to get remarried do so knowing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:20 PM
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I'd say the difference here is that the stats show that you being successful means you're more likely to attract a partner and that partner is more likely to be happy with you and you with her. The opposite is true for successful women. So the question becomes if you were using game theory what is the best way to maximise your life. Does your job mean more than having a husband a children that you love and who love you? How far are you going to push that work/life balance slider either way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:20 AM
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I've had it twice in 2 days. Which is weird as I literally put that I'm married in my flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:15 AM
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B B B B But Greta had the greatest come back of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 10:12 AM
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You understand you're going to get old right? Like you said I have kids to love me and take care of me, you'll have no one because there will not be enough young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:14 AM
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How many kids are people of non immigrant parents having in the west? How many would be too few in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:18 AM
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Right so men should not be forced to be fathers. If you don't want a kid then use contraception and if it fails flush it. Don't attempt to coerce a guy into being a father. If you don't flush it then that's your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:31 PM
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In Western nations?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:23 PM
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S Korea & Italy and if you look at the native rather than immigrant population in Western Europe it's also way below replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:23 PM
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Can we ban abortions because contraceptives exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:49 PM
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Like men are praised for cheating or something? Yes they are. It shows an ability to cheat or spin plates or have lots of bitches. And you know damn well if the stats still showed that men cheat more than women that many men here still wouldn't accept it. Then he would be irrational and he would have proven himself such. That has little to do with the fact self reports fucking suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:31 PM
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Sorry I mean if I could show you peer reviewed scientific studies that prove my point would you except that evidence or reject it. What hard or soft evidence would be enough to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:26 PM
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Can I ask what evidence you would need to change your mind on each of these?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:07 PM
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Would you agree that men have less of an ingroup bias than women? Would you agree men are more outwardly competitive with other men than women are with other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:42 PM
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We know self reported data tends to suck though. It's perfectly reasonable to say that a woman admitting to cheating is going to show her as promiscuous which is a social negative. Perhaps a better question would be to ask both sexes have you ever been cheated on. We know most men don't fuck kids because we know most people have not been the victims of childhood sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:27 PM
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Except we see them do it alll the time. If you say any thing about stats about women on here you g offended as women see themselves as one group. Men compete so stats saying that some men suck we think "yeah they do suck, fuck those guys" not "what if people think I'm like them, I must pretend like they're victims"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:21 PM
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Right but if I say "men commit the vast majority of of rapes" the correct response is "yes why is that and how can we stop it" not "women rape too though" Women have an ingroup bias and often react like a criticism of women is a criticism of them. Most men have no problem with people being critical of men as we don't feel any affinity to the psycos of our sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 09:09 AM
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If you are a woman without many friends what makes you feel like you'd be in the minority of men with lots of friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:11 AM
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The history of shotgun weddings and social enforcement of monogamy and fathers being responsible went out of the window the exact same time as the pill and roe vs wade. The reason for that is because it stopped being the man responsibly as the woman had options. If you don't want to raise the kid on your own then flush it became the standard attitude rather than the father needs to be responsible for something he did. You can say stupid non arguments like you have but reality reflects my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 08:16 PM
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The only woman who would buy a vibrator are women that would never be chosen by a real man That's how stupid you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:41 PM
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The stats show that you are. "love children" aka I let this dude blow loads in me and refused to get an abortion but I'm going to declare it is his responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:08 PM
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Women generally have more friends than men. Both men and women are wary of random dudes talking to them. Having a high tolerance just means it's more expensive. People are going to be weirded out if you try and carry their stuff, they'll probably think you're trying to rob them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:06 PM
2

What fun would you be having?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:12 PM
2

Not over your body. If I catch hiv off a woman who I know has hiv then it's my problem not hers. You know these guys are fertile yet your having them blow loads in you then acting like it's not enitrly your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:16 PM
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So don't have kids outside of wed lock. If you choose to let dudes blow loads in you and refuse to get an abortion then you're effectively damming that child to a horrible life because you like getting creampied.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:11 PM
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If you don't understand what's wrong with that I'd advise you look up the stats. They could but they don't look like it and brevity is the soul of wit. 2 wrongs don't make a right. The point of the meme is a person with sexual morals that have resulted in 2 babies by 2 baby daddies in the shortest possible time acting like sexual activity is a form of high morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:30 PM
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She appears to have 2 children by 2 different fathers in under a year. You may as well argue "women see men making money as bad" when the guy is sex trafficking under 10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:29 PM
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OK enjoy your cats pissing up your curtains.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:13 PM
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OK cat lover 😂 I think I've struck a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:07 PM
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We can split the difference and say it's a Manhattan as that's served in a martini glass and is whiskey based.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:04 PM
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https://imgur.com/ayCL3Tq.jpg OK incel That better?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:32 PM
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It's a judgement on having Irish twins from what seems like 2 different people. If you see this as viewing a race as lesser that's on you mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:24 PM
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I don't give a shit what you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:59 PM
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You're literally the "arguing with holes" meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:31 PM
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It should be mandatory if they are unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:23 PM
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Men should clean their rooms. Reeeee this is literally promoting rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:20 PM
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PurplePillDebate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:10 AM
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It's portrayed as the ideal on the cultural left and the cultural left is in charge of the vast majority of cultural institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:22 AM
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Right but you understand supply and demand right. It doesn't matter if there are 10 million or 10 it's about ratios.
/r/AllPillDebate23/12/22 06:41 AM
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And men of all races go to jail it's just more profound in the black community. The issue is that if you do both of these things to a community you end up with a lack of economically attractive men.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 09:04 PM
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The law of diminishing returns is certainly in effect when it comes to female success and dating opportunities. I do think there is a sweet spot but I couldn't put my finger on exactly where it is.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 08:51 PM
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*successful black guys. I'd say that they actually have the most options as there's a lack of successful black guys vs successful black women.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 08:16 PM
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This doesn't cover the fact that almost twice as many black women than black men have degrees. Comparing both with degrees when there's almost twice the attanement level with women is bad analysis. If black women with college degrees want to date a black guy with a degree then it's not a great position to be in from a supply and demand stand point.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 08:16 PM
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they struggle to get a successful black guy to commit as they have options. Does that help you?
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 08:09 PM
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Except prison is often for unstable people and it massively impacts your ability to get a good job. This hurts one's ability to support one's self which you have conveniently removed from your prior list of requirements.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 06:20 PM
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Sorry I meant justice system not in prison. That article doesn't debunk that stat but I'm happy to be corrected. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/06/16/the-stale-statistic-that-one-in-three-black-males-has-a-chance-of-ending-up-in-jail/ This goes into it being out of date but not wrong and the updated information is currently unclear.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 06:00 PM
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Can I see the information on that.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 05:56 PM
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Right but with 1 in 3 black men being at some stage of the prison system that simply means a shortage of the kinds of men you're describing.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 05:33 PM
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I guess the point is these women aren't fat losers they're successful and don't want to date fat losers. If you want to talk about fat, ugly, broke bitches I'm on the same page as you.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 05:22 PM
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The issue is that you might as well say "they need to start dating people they're not attracted to"
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 05:03 PM
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One thing I'd add to this is that on average black women massively out perform black men so they struggle to get a successful black guy (most people have in group bias re dating) to commit as they have options.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 11:36 AM
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1) housework is easy, easier if you're single. It's easy now. Prior to the Internet and modern appliances it was a massive amount of work. sex was never a issue to nobody LOL Wut.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 02:13 PM
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The point I'm making is the traditional relationship dynamic of men providing and women looking after the home is dead. I'm not suggesting men should want women to do their house work especially since house work is now so easy. Nor should women expect a man to provide as they are equally capable of working. The fact is that this change in dynamic means men and women need each other less if at all so relationships are less appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:26 AM
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When I lived alone I'd simply batch cook and that'd last me a good while and I'd have a selection of meals as I'd freeze them and/or use them as work lunches. 1 plate was very common as I'd only cook a few days a week. Everything can be washed at 40 as far as I understand. It's only heavily soiled stuff you need to wash on hot and adults don't tend to do that. Maybe I have been doing it wrong my whole life. I never built my life around minimal house work nor do any of my friends who live alone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 11:11 AM
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How many plates do you need for dinner? What hobbies are you talking about that require house work? What do they really enjoy wearing that means they are getting changed multiple times a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:10 AM
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How much sorting do you think the average single guy does? How long do you think it takes to put 1 plate in the dishwasher?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:04 AM
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Washing machines, dryers, dishwashers, roombas, ready meals, cheaper to replace than repair, online groceries, amazon, clothes shopping. on line billing, banking etc etc. Running a house was a lot of work now living alone is incredibly easy. You're not making your life easier by having a girlfriend move in with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 09:37 AM
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When you say the juice isn't worth the squeeze do you mean: 1)What women used to provide is housework/household management and that's largely been replaced by tech. 2)Sex isn't as much of an issue because porn 3)The expectations of women are high so jumping though the number of hoops you feel you have to isn't worth the reward given points 1 and 2 4) something else
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 07:40 AM
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Then maybe the question is how many nos do you have to face before a yes. The tinder stats for guys are pretty damning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:15 AM
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That's proved wrong by the university study. University students leave there houses and interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:13 AM
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If you half the competition the remainig are less inclined to treat you well or even worse than they did before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:12 AM
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Because the ones left are going to be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:00 PM
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My point is that if half of men check out it's not going to make things better for women it's going to make them worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:12 PM
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This is the issue I see too. Even doing everything "right" you're still probably going to leave uni between 21 and 24 then you have to find some entry job you'll have to deal with for a couple of years then you'll maybe be able to just about afford your own apartment or only share with 1 other person. By the time your even reasonably successful you'll be late 20s. I don't see how telling 19 year old guys who can't get laid "just work your ass off for a decade then maybe you'll be able to get a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:31 PM
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Maybe a lot are but I don't think 2/3s of men graduating University are. To me it seems like it's saying to men to "just be successful" totally ignoring the fact that it takes a long time to be successful and guys aren't going to work their ass off for a decade to settle for mediocre pussy. If women are only going to go for these top performers then they will inevitably be cheated on or fuck zoned as that was the guys reason to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:29 PM
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And you think that would make the results less shocking if we found what? That the small percentage of mature students were having more sex? That students studying maths were at 90% not having sex compared to drama at 50%? I'm not sure what data point could make this not a shocking statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:29 PM
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The demographic is men at university. Age range is pretty obvious. Class is pretty obvious given the stats on class and university attendance in the UK. I'm not sure what else you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:19 PM
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I'm not saying it is that simple. I'm saying that they are in a top group in regards to success. They are actually doing something. I'm not a cheerleader for university but rightly or wrongly most intelligent kids end up going.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:11 PM
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Around a third of men in the UK attend university. While university is no a prerequisite for success most successful people go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:04 PM
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My point would be the same. If men who are in the top 3rd of socity, mostly middle class, above average intelligence and doing something with their time can't get laid then what exactly is expected of them? The bar is on the floor is a good argument when talking about loser guys but these are not losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:01 PM
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https://archive.vn/yhvPK male students are less sexually active than their female counterparts, with just a over a third (34 per cent) saying they’ve had sex during their time at university
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:51 PM
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I remember Jordan Peterson saying that if women aren't picking you they're right, you're wrong and they're right not to pick you. I think he's correct in so far as if you're a fat lay about then you need to get your shit together but I don't see how that relates to normal guys who are trying hard at life and having no success with girls. There was a study that showed only a third of men graduating a university in the UK had had sex during their time there. I've either been in or worked in educat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:24 PM
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Will you? If you half the number of shops do the remaining shops treat you better or worse knowing that you have fewer options?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:01 AM
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Cool but that's not the question that I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 07:33 PM
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I discuses things because it means I get a better understanding of a problem. If I allow my thoughts to go unchallenged I tend to be wrong a lot more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:45 PM
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Can you explain how you think half of men leaving the dating pool will benifit women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:44 AM
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I remember Jordan Peterson saying that if women aren't picking you they're right, you're wrong and they're right not to pick you. I think he's correct in so far as if you're a fat lay about then you need to get your shit together but I don't see how that relates to normal guys who are trying hard at life and having no success with girls. there was a study that showed only a third of men graduating university in the UK had had sex during their time there. I've either been in or worked in educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:55 AM
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So the government is good because of that? Russia doesn't have those does that make it a good government? You are aware all of those things existed with governments right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:28 PM
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The government isn't helping you. You need to stop believing that. Voting for the dems to steal your money to spend on women and bombs isn't going to make your life better. If you want to keep getting getting cucked by the government so it can give your money to people who hate you then carry on. I don't give a shit. Minimum wage laws are meaningless. If you don't like the price they are offering for your labour work some where else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:22 PM
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You know how pathetic it sounds when an obviously incel-adjacent guy is claiming how awesome his open relationship is with his female partner? Poor folk shilling libertarianism sounds kind of like that. Do they? To me that's how male feminists/democrats sound. A poor libertarian is more like an ugly guy going monk mode/MGTOW. If the only thing a relationship is going to do is harm you then the best thing is no relationship. If all a government is going to do is fuck you over then the best option…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:25 PM
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rianism if you've got money, but if you're poor this kind of feels like voting for your right to get exploited by the rich. As opposed to voting for who? The dems don't give a fuck about men, their biggest voting block is single women they will never do anything for men because it'll take away from women, You're voting for the party that has fucked over men every chance they get. The republicans don't give a shit about anyone and will sell you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:51 AM
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struggling men probably stand to gain the most from a lot of leftist policies. The left have had power on and off for years and done nothing to help men while always doing everything to prop up women. you may as well argue that whites should vote for the black supremist government because they're all about equity. the reality is the government does nothing for broke men other than fuck them over. The best option for broke men is to vote libertarian and keep the government as far from them as pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:16 AM
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I definitely agree it's a lack of awareness but i think the lack of awareness is about how either sex feels. you look at This post from yesterday and you see women arguing why date a guy who's not in the top percentile when being single is great. You look at the thread we're on and it's guy's saying why bother with women when they expect you to be top percentile and they're happy enough being single. To me the reality is that women view dating though the lens of "a woman needs a man like a fish …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:06 AM
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I see the exact opposite. Men are already walking away and have been for a long time, we're just now seeing the repercussions. If you look at S Korea and Japan that I view as a decade or so ahead of the west it's a pretty simple issue that is mirrored here. The Women expect the guys to work super hard and be Salaryman to support them and the guys are like nah fuck that I'll just play videogames and jerk it to my waifu. It's the same as the post I linked from yesterday. You can't expect men to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:02 AM
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You're viewing this as some kind of conspiracy. Women don't need men for resources so choose men based on attraction. Attractive men have lots of options so choose to date multiple women. There's not some organised movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:34 PM
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Is it any surprise when This is the top post today? If women are going to talk down to guys and act like they're worthless then men will simply walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 02:12 PM
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It's nothing new look at the old anti women's suffragette posters. https://imgur.com/zsEknNz.jpg It's the "found the incel" of the 1930s.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 12:09 PM
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It's not ownership it's responsibility. I don't really care about the ceremonial traditions. What I see as interesting is the real world application which doesn't work if the contract can be voided by either party for no reason with no repercussions. If I try to get out of a contract then I have to make the other party whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:26 PM
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They speak about this bias... you didn't read so why argue? If your opinion is made already. Why bother? Only for health which makes sense for things like insurance. It is debunking one. Did all of them have the same bias? Hm... no. Yeah the general happyness one which is what we were discussing. They are also all referencing the same data set apart from the depression one which I have no idea about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:19 PM
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we can all agree that signing a contract that to be with a person no matter what is not conducive to equality. Can we? I don't have any issues with contracts. The only issue that I see is that there's no point in a contract that can be broken with no repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:15 PM
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like you say marriage means different things to different people but that wasn't always the case. Marriage as it is has relatively little legal or social value. If I can break a legal contract despite the other party doing nothing wrong and can't face any damages then that contract is meaningless. I'm in my mid 30s and I've considered marriage dead my entire life. It's only use now is it's easier to break up with legal precedence but the whole idea of marriage was that you can't break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:40 AM
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There's a lot of precedence when it comes to marriage that there isn't without it. You're signing 1 form that has a decent legal structure behind it rather than trying to write up legal agreements that could be contested. Question is if it is even good with kids... that's something you have to figure out for yourself just like is it better to buy or lease a car. It depends on the circumstances. I certainly wouldn't advise it for anyone who doesn't have or doesn't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 10:33 AM
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Men in long term relationship and marriage tend to be in better health, have better carrier and better social life and hobbies because their wives take care of them and the "domestic" parts of their life, allowing them to focus on the rest. Or it's simply a matter of selection bias. Married men tend to be taller too, do you think we add a few inches after the ceremony? It seems much more likely that women want to marry tall, healthy, attractive, guys with good jobs. https://archive-yaleglobal.ya…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 09:59 AM
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Why not instead see that women are just normal human beings wjth their own fucked up problems and issues who are looking for the same thing you are - love and a connection and some fun. Because men take "normal human beings" as people like them I.E. Men. One of the biggest mistakes young men make is treating women like they're trying make friends with a guy. Men will like you if you are silly and self depreciating and really good at halo - women will not. Talking to women can feel a lot closer t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 05:04 PM
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I think the point he's making is that because what women do tends to be either solitary or with friends it's difficult to interact. his question could better be phased "where can I meet women when everything women do is away from men they don't know?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:48 AM
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Which ones of those require you to socialise with strangers? The only one I see on there is rock climbing and maybe swimming but I swim and never interact with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:22 AM
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Telling someone that you love they gained weight is very different from shaming and making fun of someone for gaining weight. I was shamed and made fun of. It was good for me. I lost the weight. What I don't understand is... did you like, not know you were getting fat? I knew I was putting on weight but I didn't really think about how much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 12:01 PM
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No. I put on weight after having a kid(lazy eating, no time and tired all the time) and my wife and friends told me I was fat. You know what I did rather than start a cry baby movement? I lost weight. It's not about hurt feelings it's about accepting that you're fat and that's unhealthy and unattractive. Sort it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:51 AM
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Cause they are entitled FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:32 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/26/half-of-misogynistic-tweets-sent-by-women-study-finds It's not a man thing, it's a human thing. Why do you only care about what men do while ignoring what women do? Why do women only talk shit about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 09:02 AM
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ample of a guy who just went out of his way to criticize and put women down- lol thanks for proving my point. I'm sure he'd be perfectly happy to say most men look like fat piles of badly dressed dog shit too. Stop taking it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 08:59 AM
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Men and women hold each other to different standards because men and women are different. It's perfectly ok for a women who works a low paying job to want a guy with a high paying job despite the fact that she doesn't have a high paying job. It's ok for a woman to expect her man to go downstairs when she hears a bump in the night when she wouldn't want to go down if he heard a bump. It's ok for a short woman to want to date a guy over 6 foot despite her being 5'2. most average women of dating ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:28 AM
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You can do something about the dating issues too. Much like home security it's a cost benifit analysis of how much time, effort and money you are willing to put into preventive measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:48 PM
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Are you saying younger women have better looks and less of an F-me attitude? You're making our points for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:52 AM
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Sure but it's like if people keep trying to break into your home, it's just naturally frustrating. Saying "just don't be annoyed" isn't really helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:42 AM
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That's good. You're argument seems to be this is just something women do and I fully accept that is is just something that women do and like you said men also pretend to be interested in a relationship in order to get laid. I think the question is how wrong is it and how annoyed should people be or on the look out for this kind of behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:15 AM
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And I think those men are wrong for lying. I also think the women who lie are wrong. Can you say you think women who do what you described are morally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 11:00 AM
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not at all, shed value him less because she doesn’t care about his opinion of her (being easy) Right so she didn't feel the need to mislead the hot guy because she only wanted sex. The issue is that she IS easy for the hot guy but she's intentionally deceiving (lying) the guy who she wants a relationship with into thinking she's not the kind of girl who sleep with people quickly. This is exactly the problem that men have. You know men value chastity so you pretend to be chaste. You then get mad …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 10:43 AM
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I've found very similar with my friend's. Men simply don't need to talk about their emotions all the time. When we look at women we see emotional gluttons. I think a lot of women see men's friendship and see men as faulty women and think it's some kind of repressed relationship. When
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:18 PM
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You get to know if you are sexually compatible with someone by having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 10:51 AM
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I'm saying that I don't trust someone to have changed their sexual proclivities simply because they said so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:40 PM
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No, it’s just wanting to get to know someone. ”Playing games” is just absurd. That’s why dating is barely a thing where I am, you get to know each other as friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:38 PM
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Well then where you are is clearly not a place where these games exist. However they do very much exist and some women will see what a guy is willing to put up with to test him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:55 PM
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Nope. You're living in a paranoid delusion. The patrearchy is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:43 PM
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No one wants to dominate you. Stop being mad because you suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:26 PM
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You know saying that you made it up is OK. I knew you can't name this magical land because no such land exists. You keep comparing reality to dream land and being miserable that unicorns aren't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:59 PM
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I think any woman would be correct in refusing to date any man she found out to be a disgusting simp. That man's only use is as a permanent simp as that's the only value he can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:15 PM
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It's testing the guy to see what he'll put up with. Let's say a guy starts testing a woman by refusing to pay for anything and only going places he wants then when the girl enviably breaks it off with him he says "looks like the trash took itself out!" you'd think that guy was retarded. Well that's how I feel about women who won't have sex with a guy because they want to test him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:03 PM
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Short and average height guys are going to assume that you want to date taller guys and taller guys will either not careabout your height or view it as a positive. If a girl was feminine in appearance but tall would you dismiss her ? No but I'm also very tall Is a huge part of being feminine being under 5’6? No. There are tall girls who have unfortunate body types and they look masculine but that doesn't seem to be the case from what you've said. Being tall as a woman can be a positive or a nega…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 07:08 AM
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When a bank gives you a call saying they're not giving you a mortgage because your lending habits have been dog shit and you've ran every credit card into the red. They're not crying about not giving you a mortgage. When a guy says "no thanks I'm not treating an ex whore like a virgin because Friday was definitely the day you stopped fucking entire basket ball teams" no one is crying. They are simply informing you that you have blown any relationship credit score you had though bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:18 AM
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When a woman tells you that she is celibate and she is no longer having sex without being in a committed relationship, what is the first thing that goes through your mind? Why? "No longer" means in the past but not now. It's not presuming anything, it's answering the question as the question is written.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:32 PM
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It doesn't matter if you agree or not there are loads of studies that prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:51 PM
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I agree but a lot of women complain about their lack of good dating options or why men won't commit and don't like to hear it's because they are sexually promiscuous, fat, messy, disagreeable and can't cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:49 PM
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I'm anti name calling too. If that's the only issue then fine. Personally I see a lot of women criticising guys in ways they would never be critical of women on here all the time. The typical advice for struggling guys is to tell them to just be successful or get jacked at the gym. I don't think they'd demand women get rich if they want a boyfriend or drop down to a size 4. In fact they actively shame men for not wanting to date overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:14 PM
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I don't understand what that is supposed to mean. When the sex ratio benifits men then men set the rules of dating. When the sex ratio benifits women then women set the rules of dating. Same culture, same county, same year. Only difference is sex ratio. This shows women would rather have a system of dating and relationships and men would rather have a system of hook ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:07 PM
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You seem to keep acting like there are not different standards men and women hold each other to. Women wanting a taller parter is not hypocritical. Women wanting a guy who is a high earner is not hypocrital, women wanting a guy who will pay for dates, go downstairs if there is a bump in the night, defend them in a fight etc etc are all fine. It's also OK that a guy wants a woman who hadn't fucked the town.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:41 PM
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Except we can prove that's not true easy enough. In environments where men out number women thus women control the market we see more dating and relationships and where men are scarce we see more hook up culture. This is shown in things like collages with varying numbers of men and women and different cities and rural environments. We can also see it in the gay and lesbian communities where one predominantly values hook ups and the other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:16 PM
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I wish her well - Donald Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:43 PM
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From the Cambridge dictionary proclivity noun [ C ] formal UK /prəˈklɪv.ə.ti/ US /prəˈklɪv.ə.t̬i/ the fact that someone likes something or likes to do something, especially something considered morally wrong: the sexual proclivities of celebrities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:42 PM
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I'm not going to accept that your sexual proclivities have changed because you said so. I'd rather just date people without those sexual proclivities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:54 AM
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I'm not saying people can't change I'm saying that most people don't and previous behaviour is the best indication of future behaviour. I would rather invest in people who have a history of positive behaviour than a history of negative behaviour. You see exactly the same with banks and insurance companies. Why take the risk? It's not moralising the issue any more than saying I don't want to date an alcoholic even if they joined AA last week. My preference is for them to simply not have that prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:48 AM
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Previous behaviour is the best indication of future behaviour. If you constantly cane every credit card into the red and don't pay your bills then you can expect that no bank is going to invest in you. If you whore around then you can't expect any man to invest in you. Saying "yeah I fucked every guy I've ever met but I've quit sex so now I deserve commitment" is absolutely crazy. Moralizing sex (but only for women) is a huge problem in this community. Why? I can have any standards I like. My wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:38 AM
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I don't like pedophiles. If someone says that they used to rape kids but now they're only interested in relationships with adults it doesn't make me like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:24 AM
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She thought that she could get guys to commit by having sex with them and it's not worked. Now she's going to try and get men to commit by not having sex with them. The issue is that men probably weren't commiting because she's a pain in the arse. 🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 08:06 AM
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"men are the gatekeepers of relationships" is incomplete it's really "men who are desirable are the gate keepers of relationships"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:59 AM
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That makes sense to me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:24 AM
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Which book? Where can I learn about these utopias? Do they have airports? Why is everyone not flying there?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 07:20 AM
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Childless men have no reason not to leave if you tax them. Look at the exodus from California.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:25 PM
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As someone who used to do this it's because I didn't read enough stuff from women's points of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:23 PM
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My point is that it's difficult to just have a "good personality" which really means an attractive personality if you are an unattractive guy. There's things like the OKcupid study that shows people rate more physically attractive people as having better personalities. I was a late bloomer and the difference in how girls treated me was night and day. My personality didn't improve one bit yet suddenly I was "funny". https://imgur.com/KG2UFF2.jpg that meme is very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:11 PM
1

Please tell me more about these nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 06:01 PM
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OK so people don't have friends in communist countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:54 PM
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People don't value people for being people. People are very selective about who they spend their time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:49 PM
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High value men are not thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:30 PM
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So the solution is what communism? In a communist utopia where money is meaningless and everything in in abundance how exactly does a man who is unattractive compete with a guy who is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:22 PM
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"If the problem was that women were having issues meeting men, it would make sense that we might want to change" The problem with dating is similar to the problem with the job market. It's not that it's difficult to find anything it's that it's difficult to find some thing you want. Saying "I don't need to improve my CV because I can walk into any McDonald's or Walmart and get a job" is clearly a stupid thing to say. If you want a job or a man worth having then you need to be appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:17 PM
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If you think reading books from the 1500s are going to give you more insight than actual science then you're an idiot. We know psychopaths rarely prosper and it's not a positive trait. I'm not saying that it can never work it does work in some currupt systems. The idea that psychos do well is pure survival bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 06:44 PM
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I don't need to read the book I've read scientific studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 03:07 PM
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The average married woman might not be as happy as the average single woman. Incorrect married women are consistently ranked highest. You may be thinking about the debunked book that was widely reported on because of a misinterpreted study that conflated separated and married couples. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:58 AM
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no one labels working hard as toxic masculinity. Unfortunately they do. They also call it white supremacy. i said Machiavellianism is the easiest way to be successful. ex: robbing a bank is easier than earning money. Sure but it doesn't work as a long term strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 07:36 AM
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Right so you engaged in working hard long hours and doing more than the next person aka being competitive. This is what gets labeled toxic as it's rewarding what some view as over working. not more than anyone else That you know who are also probably successful. I don't need to as I just stated. You can't on one hand say that machiavellianism Is the only way to success then say you're successful despite being super nice and kind. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 07:14 PM
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I don't do this at all. I am gentle af and am successful. Do or did you work hard? Did you take risks? Were you willing to move to enhance your career? you need to read Machiavelli. I am gentle af and am successful Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:55 PM
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then how are women successful? By engaging in "toxic masculinity." so many men say stuff like this as if they've never read Machiavelli and understood that people have always known its easier to get ahead in life if you are shitty. Incorrect. Psychopaths tend to do well in the short term then it all falls apart. They can't hold on to long term relationships and have to move regularly because they fuck up. You seem to be arguing that all systems are based on power rather than competency which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:50 PM
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Try saying to a group of women that you wouldn't date a girl with larger labia.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:46 PM
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The problem is that toxic masculinity is often code for what you have to do to be successful. Working long hours, taking risks, being competitive etc. It's a prisoners dilemma that if you don't want to work hard then someone will and you'll be left behind and they'll have lots of success. The feminist argument suddenly ends up with calling men who aren't successful losers and don't deserve a girlfriend or they suggest communism to stop the drive to have higher status than the next guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 03:43 PM
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I guess but given they're all strangers what else do you have to go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 06:15 AM
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I don't like his taste in hats.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 02:16 PM
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Yeah wearing the same suit every day isn't a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 01:39 PM
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Sure so they'll often just ignore the other women knowing that they won't accept being their 3rd pick. I worked in night clubs and saw this every night
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:36 AM
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Male dating technique is normally go for the hottest girl and when she rejects you go for the 2nd and so on until one says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:30 AM
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Is there anyone that doesn't fit this description?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:56 AM
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he's a great academic. But if they send me his political viewpoints, I'll listen, but ultimately won't be impressed. I like Peterson or at least I did before he went a bit crazy after his recovery and I think this is totally fair. His relatively new jack of all trades approach to political topics just makes him a bit dull. It was his specificity in what he was a master at that made him interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:55 AM
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Vibrators don't stealth, have herpes, or abandon their kids that they helped create. They're also not people. If all a relationship is to you is a provider of orgasms then fair enough but for everything else you need a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:51 AM
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This is a strawman. It's that the average women has a much better time dating than the average man. No one is saying that beautiful women don't get an advantage. They're saying average guys are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:46 AM
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I don't know who that is. I read TRP about 10 years ago when it was discussing topics that were controversial at the time but now entirely mainstream like simping bad, 80/20 etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:02 AM
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If you are arguing that being polite is a good thing then I totally agree with you. I've not read TRP in years, I'm not aware they suggest being rude to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:47 AM
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I don't think the latter is bad advice but the former is like the crazy bitches with "if you don't accept me at my worst, you don't deserve me at best" posters on their walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:05 AM
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Blue pill is the idea that a high investment strategy I.e. Simping is how to get success. It doesn't work. I think blue pill is traditional as the traditional dating style is high investment where the red Pill pushes low investment and to cast a wide net.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:04 AM
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The issue is that TRP is a reaction to the fact that being traditional doesn't work for the vast majority of men. Yes you can be a blue pilled guy who is super nice to women but the reality is that it's probably not going to get you very far in today's dating environment unless you're also very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 08:57 AM
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You're assuming that because the majority of women don't want a hyper masculine body builder guy that makes it a bad idea. Let's say only 10% of women want a guy like that, well as long less than 10% are like that then it's going to help guys get laid because the demand out strips the supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:08 AM
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"Just be yourself" is really "don't pretend to be something you're not". It's not a licence to do nothing and expect girls banging down your door.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:03 AM
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You understand that women can run too? I'm also taller and stronger than most men and outside of never getting mugged while I was living in dodgy places I've never really seen it as some huge benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 07:26 PM
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How has being stronger and faster than women been a real benifit?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 06:39 PM
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The issue is that although the women would respond that's not going to work now because you can only communicate with people who match with you. To me there's always going to be an issue when women rate 80% of men as physically unattractive and as intelligence is a bell curve half of men are below average intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:54 PM
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I'd have thought that benifits women more but I'm not American so I don't really understand how the insurance system works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:14 PM
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Sure but 50% of men are below average height and the vast majority of men are below average according to women's ratings of men. I agree with you I'm simply making the point it's not as easy as just go the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:12 PM
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Sure or to make it gender neutral Good relationship > being single > bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 04:09 PM
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Musical chairs guy here. I didn't say you were wrong, I actually think you're correct and it's covered well here https://www.forbes.com/sites/andriacheng/2019/08/22/dont-just-look-at-gen-z-or-millennials-single-women-promise-to-be-formidable-consumers/ "By 2030, 45% of prime-working-age women between 25 and 44 in the U.S. will be single.“ My issue with your argument is that you seem to believe that average women have the option to get the small percentage of high value men you want. You are all …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:41 PM
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Looks maxing is better advise but again you're going to be competing with tall attractive guys and breaking into the top 5% of men who actually get swipes on tinder isn't easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:32 PM
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Right but this is often selection bias. It's like saying tall men are more likely to be married or rich men are more likely to be married. Yeah it's because women are attracted to rich and tall men. Being married doesn't make you tall or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:28 PM
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Agreed and that's why you'd have nowhere to sit. I understand that you might think "I have 6 hot guys in my dms I don't have to settle" but at some point there's no more good seats. I think so many young women are blinded by their apparent options they they can't understand the basic maths of the situation. A good relationship is better than being single and being single is better than a bad relationship. If you spend too long deciding then you're going to end up single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:54 AM
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What you seem to be saying here is the usual argument which is telling men "just be successful bro". It's not terrible advise but how long and hard to you expect some 19 year old young guy to work in order to get a girlfriend? Saying to a 19 year old that when he's 30 he'll be successful and then girls that previously rejected him might be willing to settle for him now he has some money doesn't seem like advise that's going to motivate him when he can just jerk off and play videogames.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:34 AM
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Right but you have to accept there's a 1:1 gender ratio. It's like saying you've got so many chairs to pick from in a game of musical chairs. It's not incorrect but you're going to find you've got nowhere to sit if you don't sit down fast enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:29 AM
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But I'm not more than happy for my tax to go towards that because I have my own children which I am responsible for and now under your law I'd have to take food out of their mouths to give to some other kid because his father doesn't want to pay. I don't really mind what you want to pay for. If you want to pay you can just give the money away. Why do you demand parents such as myself to pay for other men's kids when I already have to pay for my own?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 05:18 AM
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You're not giving men freedom of choice you're taxing men for other men's kids. I'd like to financially abort their kids as they're not mine. Where's my freedom in this situation? If you want to give money to men paying child support then go and just give them money. You don't have to involve the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:54 PM
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Can I ask how you believe it's more just that a rich guy (who is more likely to be able to have casual sex) is allowed not to pay for his bastard children while I as a responsible father have to pay more taxes to subside his misadventures despite being a middle earner? This subsidise the rich thing is like the free college thing. At first it looks good then you realise it's just poor people paying for privileged people who should be paying for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:25 AM
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The choice is simple You pay for your own kids or you pay for other people's. As a man who believes in personal responsibility I don't agree with financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:00 PM
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The patrearchy is literally a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:29 PM
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Because you can't on one hand say it's a conspiracy that men out earn women and make up the vast majority of highly successful people and on the other hand say that it's the way men can massively increase their dating prospects. It's not the patrearchy keeping women down it's women's demand for successful men making them highly competitive in a way women simply don't have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:15 PM
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Agreed. The problem men have is the game that some girls play where they say that they're not going to sleep with you out of some kind of test.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 05:20 AM
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Absolutely! I'm glad we agree. My issue is with the people here who think you have to just put up with the other person not giving you anything because they might have a reason. I don't give a shit about their reason. I'll go date someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:27 PM
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No but I would stop dating her pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:15 PM
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Right so if a guy isn't willing to pay then you're not willing to date him. I see nothing wrong with saying if a woman is not willing to sleep with me then i'm not willing to date her. I don't feel it's entitlement it's just checking out because it's a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 02:06 PM
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Ok so would you have a sexual relationship with a guy who didn't pay for things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:53 PM
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Cool but you wouldn't accept it if you were sleeping with him while he was refusing to pay for things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:37 PM
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OK but I didn't ask that. I asked IF YOU FOUND OUT. So please try to answer the question as it is written.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:22 PM
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As well as focusing on bodily signs of perceived dominance, the researchers also focused on facial appearance: they had groups of independent raters view participants’ faces and rate whether they saw the men as dominant and attractive. They also used software to analyse faces in terms of the masculinity of their shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:30 PM
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https://www.brunel.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/articles/Muscular-men-less-likely-to-support-social-and-economic-equality-study-suggests There were a bunch of funny articles from vice and the guardian who got very mad about it too. IIRC the idea is that good looking people tend to great treated better and so have much more of a just world fallacy/pull yourself up my your boot straps mentality. Same thing with fitness where they could be genetically blessed but still had to put in work so have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:11 PM
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I don't support the redpill or at least not in terms of it's treating women as disposable toys to be manipulated. Whereas women who like sex tend to prefer feminist leftist men, which is why those men tend to do better with women. I'm not sure I agree with you on that one. I think the men who do best with women tend to be the most physically attractive men and people who are tall, attractive and fit lean right wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:00 PM
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Well either she doesn't find you attractive or she's playing games. either way best advise is for the guy to dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:38 AM
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If she's not fucking you then she probably doesn't want you. 100% agree and that's why guys shouldn't date women who won't sleep with them but would sleep with other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:56 AM
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Let's say you asked me "would you break up with a women who would have sex with her Exs but would not with you" and I said "Not the same, money and sex aren't the same." would you say that's answering your question or avoiding the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:35 AM
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no that's not an answer just like if you asked "would you continue to date a women who slept with her exs but wouldn't sleep with you" and my answer was "she can do what she wants with her body" Isn't an answer. I'm not asking is a guy able to choose what he does or doesn't do with his money i'm asking would YOU put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:38 AM
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No I'm not repeating myself because you refuse to read. I've said several times if he doesn't want to then he doesn't fucking want to, it's his money. That's not an answer to my question. My question is would you keep dating him not is he allowed to not pay for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:35 AM
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Exactly. She just says that it's a false equivalency but absolutely refuses to answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:31 AM
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You can't give me an answer because you know how bad it makes you look. You know you wouldn't because you know you're a giant hypocrite. Keep going please, the longer you keep avoiding it the stupider you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:30 AM
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So just say it!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:29 AM
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The answer to the question is not "it's not the same" That's not an answer. Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:28 AM
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You still can't answer the question. Stop trying to change the context and answer the question on it's own merits. Would you date a guy who treated his exs but made you pay for everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:26 AM
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No you've said it's not the same several times. Just say yes or no rather than avoiding it. YES or NO? LOL blocked and she STILL can't answer the question. It's very clear the answer is you feel OWED based on your boyfriends previous generosity but you refuse to live by that same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:22 AM
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No you've avoided answering the question several times. Would you date a guy who treated his exs but made you pay for everything? Simple question please answer it with a simple answer. I don't need to be told it's not the same I just want an answer to that specific question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:18 AM
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If you found out your boyfriend would treat all his exs but made you pay for everything would you be cool with that? INB4 "I wouldn't date a guy would didn't treat me" Cool men shouldn't date women who don't fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:13 AM
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The problem is that what women hear is "just date someone who you don't find attractive" and they would much rather be single than date someone they're not into.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 07:19 PM
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I think you've got it a bit wrong. Women complain about being single and how guys treat them badly and men tell them "just drop your standards" Men complain about being single and how women treat them badly and women say "just be successful"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:48 PM
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Well I'm pro gay marriage and think that it's fucking stupid to have something that should involve an full understanding of the legal ramifications be reduced to a tick box exercise. Maybe I'm just an old stick in the mud but I'm guessing you're going to see a lot of people pissed off when they discover the power their common law husband or wife have that they didn't realise they were consenting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:22 PM
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OK but you haven't explained who it does apply to other than people who tick a box when doing their taxes. My point is that the checks and balances in marriage exist for a reason and replacing them with a tick box doesn't seem like a very good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:05 PM
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I'm sorry I don't know what that means. How do I choose? What requirements have to be met? Do I have to meet with anyone? What I'm trying to understand here is what are the checks and balances that exist in the ways that the checks and balances exist in marriage. When i got married we had to meet with the registrars and they would ask you a bunch of questions about your identity, you history, etc make sure that it wasn't a forced marriage or you weren't trying to run some kind of scam, you had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 01:11 PM
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But that's it? If I tick a box on a tax return then I'm married?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:47 PM
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I've never filed taxes in my life as you only need to if you're self employed in the UK. So that's the rule if you file taxes then you're married?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:08 PM
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What if i'm banging my room mate? What exactly defines the relationship? At what point can a women who i'm living with a sleeping with start demanding they're my wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 11:55 AM
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The point is to not get heated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:49 AM
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You're not my partner because We shared an apartment, If i want that I'll sign up to it though civil partnership or marriage. I can't imagine anything worse than any ex I lived with out of convince of us both being broke that their crazy ass gets a say in my medical treatment or my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 10:10 AM
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re I live people are almost just as likely to be common-law then married. After a couple of years you are considered married. Is this Canada? Common law marriage strikes me as the dumbest thing is the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:24 AM
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You need to use communication techniques to help communicate. For example you could try understand your partners argument by asking them "is "X" what you are saying?" So they have to agree to your framing of their point. You could ask ""Under what conditions could this conclusion be wrong?" or "what evidence would be required for you to change your position?". you're right that just talking doesn't solve everything because it's ineffective communication so the solution is to have effective commu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:08 AM
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If you're a man walking with a female friend in public and she gets harassed, you're basically expected to risk your safety to protect her from danger even if you aren't getting a crumb of pussy in return. So if you broke your leg and your gay friend defended you would you blow him? Seems weird dude. If you were hanging out with a girl and she said she'd fucked all her male friends because they gave her a ride to the airport or changed a washer in the shower head to stop it leaking you'd think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 09:02 AM
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I'm saying that women's sexual preference is a man a few years older than her. If she's 15 then yes her ideal is 18 and if she's 23 her ideal is 27. And I agree, and the science shows the same that this stops after around 40 in men. It's much easier as a normal guy being older as you're not a gawky, lanky spaz with no money or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 05:12 AM
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An average guy will have more success at age 30 than 20, but at 20 you could have more options, if you're good looking. Agreed. The vast majority of of men are not good looking though. I certainly agree that if you're a tall attractive guy in his early 20s you will do fine. Not many guys in their early 20s have any money or status so being tall and fit is a big advantage and the only reason I had any luck in my early 20s as an otherwise autistic loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:25 PM
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You know most women in their mid to late 20s don't have kids right? I don't expect college girls to be into a 30 year old guy but he's probably going to have more luck with women his own age than he did when he was 20. I'm not sure what exactly you're going on about at the end. My statement is pretty simple. It's easier to date as a guy in your late 20s rather than in your teens /early 20s when most guys are a gawky awkward mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:12 PM
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You've not disproved anything I'd said. We can disagree if you like but I can post information that shows men have a much better time dating in their early 30s than early 20s. Yes there are exceptional young guys but that's not the norm. Oh and the source is an OKcupid study they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:00 PM
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What evidence would be required for you to change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:42 PM
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IDK man, An "adonis" has been a standard of beauty for men, for centuries. Stories of "older" women going for younger guys too. How many women with options date down in age VS date up? All things being equal a 25 year old women will not date a 8/10 19 year older over an 8/10 28 year old. The same statement is not true for men. No one sees some 35yo balding skinny fat dude with greying hair as beautiful. No one sees ugly dudes at any age as attractive. Whereas youthful features such as full head …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:24 PM
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The right not to have our genitals mutilated, The right to access shelters, equal access to university funding, equal access to business funding, the right to equal treatment under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 12:18 PM
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I'd add to this that youth isn't a feature for men in the way it is for women. Being 21 isn't a plus for men in the same way it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:58 AM
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any update?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:17 AM
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That's a really great summary of how I think a massive amount of women feel. I don't often save comments but I'm saving that. The crux of the matter seem to be that both sexes are happier alone than the other sex understands. Men hear women saying like you said that you want the idyllic house, kids and husband but it's up to men to get to a level where you are willing to sacrifice your happy life for a better one. Men then respond you can just lower your standards completely ignoring that would …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:04 AM
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I think the simple reality is we're going to see a lot more single people going forwards. Men either can't or won't meet the expectations of women (I'll get into that if you want) and women would much rather be single than be in relationships with guys who they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:18 AM
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I'll go tinder as it's the one I've heard most about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:50 PM
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They pick people who are easy to abuse. Child abusers do the same to children they pick the quiet, isolated kids. It's not a matter of strength they are stronger than all of them it's picking who won't fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:17 PM
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Well convince me with a compelling argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:16 PM
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I'm just curious about how you rate a random selection of 10 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:15 PM
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If it was just physical strength then she could solve it with a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:14 PM
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Incorrect. Physical ability has little to do with abuse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 06:20 PM
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Why don't you do a quick experiment and rate the next 10 profiles that come up and tell me why 80% are terrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:53 PM
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I think it's very reasonable to not engage with people with no explanation of who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:21 PM
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Then you understand that physical size isn't how abuse works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:06 PM
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Yes. You are saying if men fixed themselves up they'd do much better but as is they are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:45 PM
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You clearly have no idea how abusive relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:43 PM
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I still don't see how that makes it a good idea. Fucking the girl up the road doesn't make me more or less able to leave it just makes me a dick even if my partner is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:25 PM
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So 95% of men are below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:23 PM
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You said you have the data. I'm simply asking for a link to this 500 times thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:18 PM
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That's like asking for a good reason to rape. There's no real answer to that question. "because it makes me feel better about myself" is neither a good reason to cheat or rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:16 PM
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I simply don't see how fucking the guy/girl up the road to make myself feel better about myself is a good reason to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:14 PM
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Kinda sounds like you just view 95% of men as below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:12 PM
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That sounds like a terrible reason to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:11 PM
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This still does not make trying to move in with some guy you're blowing a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:10 PM
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Can you link me to the data you're quoting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:09 PM
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Cool story. I'm sure there's a story of average dude hooking up with models on there too. It doesn't change the fact it sucks for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:51 PM
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So do family and shelters. I can picture a lot of guys telling a woman to piss off when she shows up with a bag of clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:50 PM
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I don't understand how that is quantified. How do say you're in 500 times more risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 03:49 PM
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I don't get why leaving is more dangerous than cheating. I don't understand why him finding you with your dad is more dangerous than him finding you in bed with the post man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:49 PM
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500 times what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 01:47 PM
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Wouldn't staying with family or at a shelter for 2 weeks be a better option than cheating. I'd be much more annoyed if my wife cheated on me rather than just left me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:52 PM
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Define high in odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:48 PM
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You become more selective. Over 6ft, masters degree, over 6 figure salary etc. The issue is that as pretty much all women have to do this only the top small percentage of men get a load of matches and they treat the women as disposable meaning the women actually have a bad time on there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:50 AM
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I'm not sure what the 2 week time frame has to do with it. Surly if he's motivated to kill you then he'll get the job done in 2 weeks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:44 AM
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I'm taking it up with you as it's you who made the statement that women are "VERY likely to get killed" I would like to know what that means. 1 in 10? 1 in 100? 1 in a million? At what odds is it acceptable to cheat to as a preventative measure to stop yourself from being murdered and does cheating lower the odds of a violent response from your ex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:55 AM
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No I'm sure you'll be fine. The issue that is "The wall" is really that if you have Mr ideal who's say over 6 foot tall, handsome and has a great job well he's likely going to pick to pick a 27 year old over you as he has a bunch of options. However is you date with in your own league you'll have no problem finding a guy who's a great match for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:53 AM
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By what numbers? either there are a very very low number of abusive men or there's a very very low risk of being killed by them. I also again don't see how fucking another guy is going to lower you chances of being shot in the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:42 AM
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What would you put the percentage of men who are abusers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:39 AM
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it's like 70 women per year which is not an inconsequential amount however it's also a very low number considering there's like 150 million women in the US. They are not "VERY likely to get killed" and I don't think that fucking Bob down the road is doing anything to lower your chances of getting shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:24 AM
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No you wanted to moderate the conversations because they make you mad hence your bitching. If no one cares why are you so mad? Why are there constant attempts to slience? They're taking flak because they are over the target and you know it. Stay mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:45 PM
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You were clearly very proud of your ambition to police conversations. You have now realised that is not possible. Youe argument with me is now telling me how you think men should behave. You have accepted you have no power. I have no influence and even if I did I wouldn't agree with you. You have lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 07:25 PM
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Lol I absolutely will police how people discuss things if it’s completely ridiculous and lacks any accountability for being half the problem. Get over it. You very obviously are upset as per the post you made above. Saying that you you "absolutely will police how people discuss things" despite having 0 power has obviously got you upset. The question remains. Why are you so insistent on policing men's conversations and why are you so mad that you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 05:09 PM
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They absolutely do when they are talking about gender relations. It makes no sense to only discuss one half of the problem. It’s like having a broken machine and only focusing on one thing that’s broken without addressing the other. Lol I absolutely will police how people discuss things if it’s completely ridiculous and lacks any accountability for being half the problem. Get over it. You very clearly are upset that you can't police them. You will never police them no matter how much you cry. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:11 PM
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Why are you upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:57 PM
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It's not hypothetical to to bring up an issue men have. Why does it upset you so much that men are talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:54 PM
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If by themselves you mean talking about how men are bad then no there's the entire rest of the Internet to read about men bad. You can cry all you like they'll never let you in, you'll be banned if you try and your crying only makes it more fun. Cry harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:48 PM
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They discuss men's issues regarding dating. Women's issues are irrelevant. Stop trying to include yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:43 PM
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Yes it is. It's pure whatabouterty which is trying to change the subject. You know on a men's forum they are discussing issues that men have. It's not up to you what other people discuss and they're under no obligation to put up with your "but but look at how men do bad thing!" whining. Respect the safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:15 PM
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The pills take some truths and build entire philosophies that are mostly incorrect. In terms of your title question the prevailing wisdom is Good relationship>no relationship>bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:40 PM
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No it's derailing. If women are talking about rape then the topic is men raping women. If a man then chimes in attempts to change the topic to women raping men that is derailing. It's perfectly OK for women to talk about men raping women as women raping men doesn't effect them. Now replace women with men and rape with any topic you want. Now add a sprinkle of empathy and understand how wrong you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 06:25 AM
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yeah and they rightfully get banned for derailing the convo. When they’re venting becomes blatant sexism and ridiculous generalizations then women are allowed to tell you to stfu and give you the cold shoulder. And men are allowed to ban them and tell them to go fuck themselves. I don't get how you don't understand it's okay for men and women to have their own spaces. Stop trying to police people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:28 PM
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Cool then men should all brigade feminist forums and do exactly what you're suggesting to women and make sure that they post about how women are bad too. Or maybe people should be allowed places to vent and discuss ideas with out you policing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:58 PM
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No it's like women discussing rape on a feminist forum and some idiot MRA jumping in and saying "why are you not bringing up how many men are sexually assaulted by women!"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:08 PM
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They don't have a duty to talk about how men make terrible boyfriend's. If you want to make a sub about how bad men are feel free. Stop policing how people discuss things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:51 PM
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If I say mosquitoes are annoying and it's best to use deet or a net to stop them I don't expect anyone to bring up that humans are the only species to use nuclear weapons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:31 PM
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No study is perfect I'm just trying to understand the data we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 01:57 PM
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It depends on the man. I'm mostly on the pro choice side ( i think abortion is wrong but I still think you have the right to not provide your body) and disagree with financial abortion as I don't think responsible men should have to pay for irresponsible men blowing loads in women. Some man want it as they deem it only fair as women have the right to abortion. I've never heard any man argue that they want a situation where financial abortion is legal but abortion is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 12:17 PM
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Don't bi men mostly end up only dating men? There's a lot more straight women than men who sleep with men but both bi women and bi men prefer men. https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/07/26/bisexuality-and-dating-on-okcupid/ As shown in this data both men and women are primarily messaging men and this is particularly true for men in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:37 AM
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If women are forced to have children, then the father should definitely be forced to support them. You understand that is literally what Conservatives want right? It's even a popular meme https://imgur.com/5DYgIDy.jpg TRP argument about financial abortion is in regards to if women are allowed to kill babies men should at least be allowed to abandon them. It's not an argument in favour of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:24 AM
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How is that relivent to a guide on how to pick up women? The issue most people seem to have with TRP is they think it's a moral argument rather than a logical argument. They're not talking about men so the topic simply isn't talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:20 AM
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Women fall in love with the guy they can get. That's not the same as arguing that women can get commitment from any man. That's like arguing that I could buy any car I wanted in the world and I choose to drive a shitty Nissan. The reality is my shitty Nissan Is cheap as fuck to run and so I put up with it. Doesn't change the fact that the reason I don't drive a GT3 is because I can't afford one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:38 AM
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So then explain how the majority of women who want to get married are going to secure a high value spouce when there are more women who want to get married than there are high value men? You're argument is despite the majority of women wanting marriage and the majority of men being losers women are going to find absolutely no issues in getting married. It makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:25 AM
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Do you have any data to back that up that the majority of women would rather never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:06 AM
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It's still not making any sense. Let's just break this down and see where we're going off. At maximum I'd say around 25% of men are desirable. But let's for arguments sake say it's 50%. That means that if people all pair up (and they do it's called marriage) then 50% of women are going to find they're unable to get commitment from the top 50% of men. Having a large population doesn't change the maths. It doesn't matter if you have 10 people playing musical chairs or a million, the fundamentals o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:43 AM
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Women have no problem getting committment from whoever they realistically want at any age under 60. The desirable men are often getting ran through by many women. There are enough to go around when women share. Pick one. You can't say women can get commitment from any man then say women have to share the top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:02 AM
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There aren't that many millionaires. Exactly my point. You can't all get anyone you want because there's not enough desirable men to go around. Don't you think every woman under 60 living below the poverty line would love to marry a rich loving handsome tall guy to take them out of their miserable lives? According to you they're choosing not to do that and Insted marrying Jerry with 5 teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:31 PM
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The Paul Rudd bit was hyperbole but the point is why if any woman can get any man are all women not married to very attractive, tall, charismatic, influencal, multimillionaires? You're argument is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 06:27 PM
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When men say who they're attracted to, all they think about is looks. I don't understand your point. Women think about everything. Looks is a factor. It is blindingly obvious guys in their teens and early 20s are more physically attractive than 30 year old men, but why would a woman be attracted to them for more than just looks? The data says you are incorrect on this. I'm in my 30s and so is my wife and all her friends. They don't swoon over teenagers. Women have no problem getting committment …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:34 PM
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So you're saying women are most attracted to men there own age and men are attracted to younger women? I don't understand how that refutes my point that if you maximise men's options they'll date younger and if you maximise female choice they'll date around there age. The men women most want to date are the men with the most amount of of options. Thus if you want to get a guy with the most amount of options to commit to you then you need to do it in your 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 07:38 AM
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That sounds like a load of nonsense. Can you please post your evidence. Here's mine. https://imgur.com/L6pO7dW.jpg Given just pictures men rare women in their early 20s most attractive and women rare the guys around their own age most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:16 AM
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Have you seen the tinder stats on the number of matches the highly desirable men get? Men with options pick who ever they want. Men with less options get what they're given. Women want the men with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 05:15 AM
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I'm saying that youth is part of looks. Youth is attractive. I'm not saying massively low I'm saying men in their mid 30s going for women in their mid to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:58 PM
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Right male models are better looking than a lot of women but I'm not attracted to men. Why would I pick objectively good looking over someone I'm attracted to? False men date younger when they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 06:34 PM
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Because when you maximise male choice they date younger women. We also have the stats on attraction where women rate men their own age the most physically attractive. https://imgur.com/IHcCNKX.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:59 PM
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I never said men don't find women in their 30s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:57 PM
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Most people drive mid range cars. Doesn't change the fact they wouldn't if they had the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:40 PM
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And it could be people prefer to drive a Nissan than an audi but I think it's clear that people buy the car that they can afford. To argue men in their 30s don't want to date women in their 20s because that's not who they end up with doesn't seem like a very good argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:05 PM
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Are you saying that because men choose the women who are willing to date them that means men don't have a preference for younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 01:58 PM
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I don't disagree with any of that. I think what you're missing is that a lot of men are checking out of relationships too. Woman seem to believe that men will marry anything and maybe at one point that was true but men are quite happy alone rather than being in a relationship with some women who makes him miserable. If women want to get pumped and dumped until they age out of men and into cats that's fine with everyone. I don't understand how you view that as some kind of win. Who exactly do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:18 PM
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Go ahead and post your source on a massive jump in women marring men 10 years their junior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:04 PM
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Turns out being a wage slave isn't all that fun. Yes for the top women with high flying careers it's working out well but for the vast majority of women it's just about managing in a job that you don't enjoy and where men are either fuck bois or man children who don't want to care for you and certainly aren't capable of being fathers in your eyes. Emulating men's lives isn't that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 12:01 PM
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The difference is that a 35 year old woman wants a 35 year old man and a 35 year old man wants a 26 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:54 AM
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I'm confused as to what you mean by options. Let's say you want a guy who's tall, that's 15% of the population. You want him to be reasonably attractive too? half it you're down to 7.5% of the population. want him to have a decent income (top third) divide by 3 you're down to 2.5% of the male population. These top 2.5% of guys have options why exactly would they pick a woman who's 32 over a woman who's 26? So women in their 30s are going to have to drop some of these standards in their 30s becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:51 AM
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In a world where it's easy to move that seems like a good way to massively reduce your taxes. Makes me think of the feminist cafe that charged men more then shut down not long after.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 05:52 PM
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Incorrect. It's still married women. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness It was misinterpreting a quote. It's not "in the room" it's married couples are the happiest unless they are separated as in they've split up but are still legally married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:21 PM
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These are based off a study with a misquote. It's not married couples are only the happiest when they're asked when their spouse is "in the room" it's they're happiest group when they aren't including separated couples. This has been debunked a million times on this sub but much like the wage gap or men being 7 times more likely to cheat on their dying spouse it keeps going around and around. See https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:12 PM
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Men are aware that they don't have leverage. Women seem to be unaware that they don't have leverage with the men they want to date. Men are checking out as much as women and a few loud men moaning they can't get a girlfriend doesn't represent the majority. If women want to keep acting like they're 25 when they're in their 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s then that's cool with everyone, especially big companies, wealthy investers and fashion brands. I don't know who you think you're sticking it to? Incels? Way…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:05 PM
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The question is hypergamy not novelty pussy. Men aren't cheating up they're just cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 04:27 AM
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women are constantly being tempted to cheat whereas men have to go out of their way. Yes women have more options when it comes to sex than men. This is not debatable at least not in good faith. On the other hand, men on social media are bombarded with prompts to consume sex-related material as a pipeline (for some) to engage in infidelity. I don't know what this means. I don't really use social media so can you tell me what I'm not seeing on Facebook or twitter that is going to make me cheat on …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:01 PM
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I haven't made the argument that men are as faithful as their options or that women should marry boring men. I'm not sure what evidence you have that the men who are cheating are average or that they are cheating with sex workers. I'm also not sure what it has to do with my point here which is hypergamy is simply women doing the exact same thing as employees do when offered a better deal at a different company.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:43 PM
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OK allow me to rephrase it's much easier for women to cheat on their husbands with a man who she is not paying to fuck her than it is for a man to cheat on his wife with a woman who he's not paying to fuck. I assumed every one understood that the users of the sub were aware of the fact prostitutes exist so I felt it would be superfluous but I'm happy to offer you a correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:14 PM
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I never said it was insignificant nor did I say that men don't cheat or that women cheat more. I'm a little confused as to what point you are attempting to make here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 07:05 PM
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So 85 to 80 percent of men aka the vast majority don't want to see sex workers or cheat on their wives even with the option of sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 06:51 PM
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Of course the Internet makes it easier but the vast majority of of men won't use sex workers even while single. Most men (myself included) find prostitution gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:50 PM
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I don't think I've made any moral statements in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:39 PM
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The vast majority of men don't want to use sex workers. The stats on online dating are posted here all the time and it's not good for men unless you're extremely eligible. Also putting your pictures on tinder means every single female friend of your girlfriend is going to see you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:31 PM
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Absolutely. The problem is that for men dating involves casting a wide net and that means time, effort and a high likelyhood of getting busted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:28 PM
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Men aren't presented with options is the main difference. If men had women trying to fuck them all the time they'd cheat a lot more. Yes loss is a part of the equation but if the cost benifit analysis works out then they'll go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:00 PM
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Your job is a relationship. It's a relationship with your employer and there's a deal there. You provide and get provided for, it's mutually beneficial. I'm many ways a job is the same as a relationship you find value, meaning and you get a lot of out it but you also have to put in work. If you change boyfriend to job then I think you'll understand hypergamy pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:59 AM
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did it once, regretted it for a bit. well if you had the option of quitting your job and being broke an unemployed or quitting your job and moving to a better job with more pay which would you pick? Either you ban unfaithfulness completely and stop looking for something else, or you try to not be a jealous person in your couple. Ok I'm your employer and because I've put you on a permanent contract I've said to you "You are banned from getting another job" How exactly can I enforce that? I could …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:27 AM
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I'd like to develop my thoughts on your logic, but so far it does not completely answer my question, if a woman is supposedly always on the look-out for a better partner, why would she want to keep her current partner in check so he doesn't look for another partner too. Because women are head hunted and men have to apply for jobs. It's not that women are "always on the look out" it's they they are evaluating the options presented to them. Women do their best to make sure their partner doesn't ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:17 AM
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You're confusing willing to leave immediately if anything better comes along and leaving if something much better comes along. Look at it like a job. Lets say you have a job which is pretty good and you're on a temporary contract. You would probably want a permanent contract that means you can't be fired without a good reason and you get holidays and maybe parental leave etc. If you get head hunted by another company then you're not going to just leave because they offer you $10 more a month bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:07 AM
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And I think that the exact argument for tax can be used for redistribution of sex I'm talking about in the influence on roman empire sorry if I didn't make that clear. I'm not saying they were always peaceful. War has many causes. I'm talking about the lonely men issue which is an issue on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 03:47 PM
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Blue pill is looks don't matter only being nice Redpill is looks matter but so does income, status, game, etc etc and if you work on these things you'll get laid blackpill is the only thing that matters is looks and there's no point in even trying as you'll never get anywhere unless you're great looking.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/22 08:52 AM
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From our current understanding of things, humans tend to value their autonomy a lot. Especially when it comes to things like choosing what to do with our own time/money etc. So, it would be bad to have a government which "redistributes money". Fixed it for you. Wasn't the biggest change Christianity did that created harmonious societies was the enforcement of marriage and monogamy? Which is really a distribution of all women to all men which stopped the lonely man syndrome of men who just act li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:47 AM
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I'm anti taxes so I'm not going to argue in favour of the state having the right to steal from you. I'm saying the same logic for taxes are fine because we agree it's a common good to give your money to other people who need it is the same logic as sex distribution is good because some people need sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:08 AM
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And if society decides that it has a right to the resource that is your holes is that okay? To me it seems like you're saying "it's ok because it's legal" which isn't an argument as the worst things in history have been legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:45 AM
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When you tax me you're taking my labour without my permission. %0% of the work I do Is pretty much being stolen by the state. It's not just money it's a representation of my work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:32 AM
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To me I view blue pill as the belief that you can can a girl to date you by hanging around her enough/doing her favours/paying for shit/being an emotional tampon. The redpill is you can get girls to date you by working on yourself and making yourself more appealing. I'd say there's truth to both but the redpill is correct that you can't negotiate attraction and if a girl's not into you then it doesn't matter what you do, she's still not going to fuck you. in terms of personal redpilling I'd say …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 08:57 AM
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I'd guess that women can hop on and hop off pretty quickly while men sit there hoping to be picked. I'd be interested in seeing the yearly active users rather than the numbers at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:59 AM
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Usually what is meant by it is that 80% of the women in general go to the top 20% of guys, not just 80% of the more specific demographic of women interested in casual hookups I've always understood it as 20% of men have 80% of the hook ups I think that's how most of the sub sees it. I'd also add the caveat that women's sexual attraction isn't as limited to the physical domain as men's. Charisma and humour ability (what RPers call 'game' I guess) are highly desired even in the context of STR/ONS.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:40 AM
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You're confusing 80% of all sex with 80% of hook ups. Women generally don't want hook ups, so when they do they want it with the most attractive men they can. It's pretty easy to understand that if you get to pick whatever sexual partner you want then you're going to pick the one that's the most sexually attractive. The sexual market place is exactly that a market place and as with brands you see a Pareto distribution. It doesn't matter if it's trainers, smart phones, tomato ketchup or men. 80% …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:11 AM
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Sure but it depends on what you're complaining about and to who. The problem I have with blue pill mentally is it lends itself to anger and bitterness because it's a high investment strategy. It's the difference between not getting a promotion you've been working towards for years and not getting a job you applied for. Making yourself more employable is a generally better strategy than trying to get a promotion.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:55 AM
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Because saying to someone that because you listened to their problems and paid for things when you hung out means that they owe you sex is crazy.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 06:47 AM
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I mean you can but you'll look kinda crazy just like a woman who demands that you have to be her boyfriend because she slept with you.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/22 05:40 AM
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Exactly. It's the just world fallacy. Idiot men think that if they put in so much effort they should be rewarded then get mad when women don't and they act out. Women do a similar thing and think they are owed a relationship because they let a guy bang them then act out when the guy doesn't call.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 07:38 PM
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Maybe I'm being too generous but I'd say it's toxic blue pill mentally. If a guy is told if you do X, Y & Z then women will date you and you do X, Y & Z repeatedly but keep ended up in the friend zone then sooner or later you're going to get frustrated that you're doing everything by the good boy rules but you're not getting anywhere. I can empathise with these guys the same way I empathise with people who spend a fortune doing a masters/PhD and find that employers aren't willing to hire you. I …
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/22 02:21 PM
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Are you saying that she took a chance by marrying a guy who was merely a millionaire CEO?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:48 AM
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You say there's no way but it both your examples you found out. What I've always found be it dating women or just female friends that eventually the truth comes out. It's simply not a good idea to lie to your partner as when eventually the truth is revealed it's going to be much worse than if you were just honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:44 AM
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You could just say "I made it up"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:36 AM
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It doesn't contradict anything they are going to have fully mature bodies with make up to make their eyes big and nose small. It's basically hacking the male brain in terms of attraction. No one is saying "I find her attractive because she fertile" it's men are most attracted to signs of fertility as are all mammals.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:48 AM
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So you're saying that 22 year olds are making the most money. I don't really care about the fact pedos exist. That's not news. The simple reality is men rate women most attractive in their early 20s.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:42 AM
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But men don't generally find 14 year olds very attractive. When men are rating women just by photos they universally rate women between 20-22 most attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:37 AM
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30 is roughly when physical signs of aging become apparent. You can attempt to intellectualise it all you want but the simple fact is youth is attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/22 09:01 AM
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Sure and women have always worked but they have not been able to support themselves. What I see today is highly atomised people who don't need each other so women have decided that if a man is going to enter their lives he needs to be amazing and men have decided that they're not going to jump though hoops when women have become an expensive luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:17 AM
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That's my whole point. Gender roles were men earned money and women did housework. Women became free of men by entering the work force and men have been freed of women by technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:25 PM
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An underdiscussed cause is how tech has made living alone so easy. Men provided labour for women in the form of money and women provided labour for men in house work. Between online banking shopping, bills, amazon, dish washers, roombas, washer dryer, minimalist apartments, people replacing rather than repairing, cheap take out, online porn, social media, videogames etc etc men don't need women any more. If women want to only date super successful guy then a lot of men are going to be like "I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 08:22 AM
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You're talking about stupid smart people or at least smart very charismatic people which is more likely to be a natural trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:34 PM
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The problem is that most men are not attractive to women based on appearance alone (at least 80%) and yes you can work on education, wealth etc but remember 50% of men are below average intelligence so for half of men that's going to be a real struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:35 AM
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Well incels can't and they want to. You can not know what to tell them but telling them that it's easy is probably not a great idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:15 AM
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Again 1/10 women will still not sleep with men they find unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:08 AM
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You're assuming that unattractive women want sex with unattractive men. For men sex is like pizza where even bad pizza is OK. For women bad sex or sex with some one they find unattractive is a horrible experience. Even ugly women don't want to fuck ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:00 AM
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That you think it's easy for men to get women they just need to drop their standards. This is clearly not true as involuntarily celibate men have very low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:53 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361073926_Levels_of_Wellbeing_and_Mating_Psychology_of_Incels_Involuntary_Celibates_Poster_Presentation_for_IASR_International_Academy_of_Sex_Researchers_Conference_2022 I think it's here. He's spoken about it multiple times in interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:38 AM
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There's a scientific study by william costello that shows you are entirely wrong and men who are unattractive have very low standards. But fuck science say whatever makes you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:38 AM
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No you get all the woman going for the most attractive men. Go look up the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:01 PM
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Women can get commitment from high value men not from low value men. High value men have options so choose not to commit. If there's 1000 women and 1000 men and women only want to date the top 200 men then the 1000 woman are going to find getting commitment difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 04:44 PM
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Most women don't want to date older men. Women generally prefer to date men around 3 years older than them. I'm also not arguing women can't get men to commit I'm arguing they can't get the men they desire to commit. Women treating men as disposable is the norm. Men treating women as disposable isn't. Women don't like being treated as disposable and handle rejection much worse than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:59 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean exactly. People are getting married and having children later and later. People date for longer generally speaking. I think you're misinterpreting what I said. Women have let's say 1000 men who want to date them with online dating. Well 1000 men is too many so they have to drop that to a manageable number. They do this by selecting by height, income, looks etc. This means women are all selecting the same men. These men aren't assholes they just have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:39 PM
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I don't think anyone is saying individual women are wrong. The rational problem is that since women are generally selecting the same men that means that those guys treat women as disposable making women unhappy. It also makes the majority men unhappy as they can't compete. I don't think people are really offering a solution to this issue they're more simply irritated people say it's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 08:07 AM
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It different because male and female SMV aren't the same. By the standard of who can get laid easier most 21 year old woman have a higher SMV than Henry at his peak. The amount of attention that attractive women get at 40 is much less than at 25 where as it's comparable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:51 PM
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https://imgur.com/4J4VO4a.jpg As shown in graph above women less attractive to men as men prefer women in their early 20s. Women however rate men most attractive around there own age range. Womens SMV drops and mens doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:25 PM
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I'd argue Henry's SMV has stayed the same and salmas has dropped a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:12 PM
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Heidi klum, Charlize Theron, Angelina Jolie — all of whom are late 40s And all have a fraction of their SMV compared to when they were in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:42 AM
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And do you think they have more or less SMV than when they were both 25?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:38 AM
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Which are fine. Toddlers are fun.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/22 03:12 AM
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Go read the paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:54 AM
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I did a lot my wife and I shared parental leave. Once you're out of the first 3 months it gets a lot easier. Babies don't stay babies for very long.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/22 07:25 AM
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What I'm expressing is social status matters more than money or education. That's the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:32 PM
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Yes I have kids.
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/22 03:20 PM
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Yes. Fame is the ultimate example of high social status and any famous person will tell you it makes it super easy to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:07 PM
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What you're talking about is outside perception. Like I said you can have educated caretakers and uneducated bankers. Because banking is high status it is viewed as more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:43 AM
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So then you don't want to date the caretaker because you worry others will view him as low status because of your perceived attitude of those jobs. It's not about money, education or skill it's about status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:14 AM
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Sometimes and sometimes so does being caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:08 AM
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Same with people who work in banks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:05 AM
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Care takers can have degrees in engineering.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:45 AM
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Both have degrees and technical knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:05 AM
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I think it's the difference that matters to women in terms of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:10 AM
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No I'm saying it's about status which is superficial and status matters so much women will even over look a larger salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:04 AM
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Women would rather date a guy working in a bank 9-5 earning 60k than a guy janitor working 9-5 earning 80k. that's superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:38 AM
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It's more women would rather date a white collar guy earning 60k than a blue collar guy earning 80k.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:36 AM
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divorce court is skewed towards the woman getting the better half of the deal because it is a long standing belief that women are better caretakers and should spend more time with the kids - a primarily patriarchal idea. No it's because the law is set of precedence and the big money is in lawyers representing women and rinsing their husbands. You are taking a result and trying to get it to fit the patriarchy narrative. Dating apps work under the male gaze - lemme explain, women aren’t wired to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:21 AM
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Then show me the full study don't say that there's no evidence in the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 04:12 AM
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That's simply an article with a hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:59 PM
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And flat earthers think we live on a big disk with an ice wall. It doesn't make it true.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/22 01:30 PM
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SAHP isn't a job. I'm not working nights and weekends because I have kids.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/22 01:19 PM
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Well since the evidence required for evo psych has to include across history, cultures and displayed in the animal kingdom it wouldn't meet the burden of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:53 PM
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If you date someone and after a few dates it becomes clear they're an air head you have no obligation to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:30 AM
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I'd guess a guy who is highly driven and responsible. Honestly it's difficult to say because now I'm the age where me and my friends are having families all the guys are just settling into dad mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 03:13 PM
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"Pussy's not all I want, unless that's all you got." - Patrice O'Neal People who make the superficial the primary part of themselves are going to find themselves disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:49 PM
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No we're not feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:39 PM
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I'm a biologist. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:10 PM
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I don't think a guy has a problem being told "I like that you're tall, fit, charismatic and make more money than me"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:51 AM
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Never married women also out earn never married men. The gap is really between mothers and fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:37 AM
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The only people who get mad at how attraction works are unattractive people who are unwilling to put in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 08:13 AM
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You're talking to blue pill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:15 AM
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The problem you might be having here is judging men with a wife and kids againt men who are single. Dr Warren farrell has written books on this explaining how men change their attitudes drastically after having a family. If you're expecting single men to have the same self sacrificing mentality as men with families you're never going to find one. Imagine a guy who talks about how his mother did everything for him and how self sacrificing she is and how women he dates don't live up to that. You'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:09 AM
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Found the mad feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:05 AM
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Then I'd probably change the flair to ask women. I'm not really sure what better answer you're looking for than "guy I wanted to commit didn't commit because I was a slut"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:14 PM
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Sure but You could say that about being able to get anything of value. Almost anyone can buy a car but it takes a level of success to buy an expensive car. Yes they can get A man but women don't want A man they want the right man and being promiscuous limits their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 01:30 PM
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I've refused to commit because of it. Maybe it's just personal experience but I think promiscuity is a sign of poor mental health especially in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 12:54 PM
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Masculine is things feminine is people. This is shown in babies, primates and though every culture and all though history. There's around a 20% of each sex that will prefer the opposite I.E. 20%% of women will be as interested in things as the average man and 20% of men will be as interested in people as the average women. So it's relatively normal (around 1 in 5) to see people being interested in things that typically the opposite sex is into. Gender roles is basically just enforcing the biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:04 AM
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Is it sexist that the vast majority of primate species have exactly the same behaviours? Every time this topic is discussed it's people who believe in blank slatism sticking their fingers in their ears about every evolutionary psychology paper ever published and telling an anicdote about their brothers, best friends counsen, sister who works as an ice road trucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 10:54 AM
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Let's say 80% of boys enjoy X While only 20% of girls enjoy X but 80% of girls enjoy Y while only 20% of boys enjoy Y. You simply provide more or less X or Y depending on if it's a boys school or a girls school.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:37 PM
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Saying men are taller than women isn't the same as saying that all men are taller than all women. Men and women do have differences in temperament as do all male and female mammals. I'd advise you read some evolutionary psychology on things like disgust sensitivity in males and females or interest in things or people. It's all quite simple and makes complete logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:23 PM
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They don't. But let's say you are going to create an all boys and an all girls school. It'd be a wise decision to take gender differences into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 03:18 PM
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Men and women are differently abusive. You know all those girls who kill themselves because they are bullied by other girls. Those girls bully their boyfriend's in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:19 PM
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The best way to look at this is probably the gay and lesbian communities. There's no shortage of sexually aggressive lesbians and there's a shit load of simping for the attractive girls. There would be basically no difference as the hot people would get just as much attention as they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:10 PM
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Odd that a radfem would state the absolute libright position but I completely agree. The idea of rich guys demanding the state pay for their bastards is why I'm completely anti paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:01 PM
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Joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:55 AM
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Nah just aspie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 08:01 AM
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If smoking kills how is my 90 year old grandmother still alive when she smokes a pack a day?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 07:14 AM
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Agreed but part of that is understanding and accepting reality. To me there's a difference between understanding unfairness and coming up with solutions and complaining. It's OK to analyse a specific difficulties or inequalities. You shouldn't just attempt to shut people down for talking unless it becomes a pity party.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 04:42 AM
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Things like low social media presence, not super into fashion/beauty, close friend group rather than large number of acquaintances, doesn't make being "hot" part of their identity, not outwardly sexual etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:35 AM
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There's a big gray area between captain fuckboi and plain old Rodger and that's what most people want. Attractive but low maintenance is the ideal option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:14 AM
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Would you rather date a guy who was getting constant dms from girls trying to suck his dick or a guy who wasn't constantly getting the same dms?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 06:00 AM
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If this was a short fat guy saying he only dates skinny women reddit would have a million gold awards for the first woman to call him out.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/09/22 12:01 PM
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The more hyperbolic your rhetoric the more push back you'll get but opinions that were common sense 10 years ago are now treated as controversial. Saying borders aren't racist, women don't have penises and a woman who has had 50 sexual partners is less appealing to men than women who haven't are all now treated like some kind of fascist statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:38 AM
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I have a lot of interest in the huge social change that's underway. I've been interested in it for probably around 15 years since I started reading about how men and women are not getting married or having children in Japan. I don't talk about my relationship on here really and I'm not interested in individuals. What I'm interested in is how the different philosophies clash here and how they are developing to deal with the rapidly changing dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:51 AM
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Don't you remember the massive back lash because some guy said "men prefer debt free Virgins without tattoos"? Saying you're allowed to have an opinion but if you dare express it then you'll be met with absolute wrath isn't really being allowed to have an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:40 AM
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the thing is we are not doing anything about cheating or abusive WOmen we are not working on making new generation better that's the problem. It's like whoopty do we have toxic WOmen instead of solving this issue let's teach men to be weary of all WOmen. This is literally the entire principle of TRP and MGTOW. The thing I find most interesting about this sub is the empathy gap. How can you not see that men and women are having the exact same set of problems that are both broadly derived from the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 06:09 AM
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You seem to be accepting that there's a cultural double standard and rather than agreeing and saying it's wrong you demand he simply just suck it up and stop complaining. I don't really get how this is helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:54 AM
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If some women are wary of men because they have had a history of men who cheated and were abusive does that mean those women are misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 08:21 AM
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/marriagecohabitationandcivilpartnerships/bulletins/marriagesinenglandandwalesprovisional/2019#:~:text=Marriage%20rates,-Marriage%20rates%20take&text=record%20since%201862.-,In%202019%2C%20for%20men%2C%20there%20were%2018.6%20marriages%20per%201%2C000,decrease%20from%2018.6%20in%202018. yes and they're also not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 08:09 AM
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the only guys I’ve met who I felt any chemistry with turned out to be in relationships or are not looking for one. I’ve been on some dates, I’m on dating apps; but honestly, the effort to get cute and put your best foot forward for someone who shows up to your date in denim shorts and a T-shirt from work is demoralizing. This is because women are all dating the same guys and those guys have options so don't want to settle. It's a 1 in 5 shot of getting a top 20% man to commit or you never settle…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:59 AM
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Right but the vibe most women look for is attractive and wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 10:09 AM
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Except they're not. What we're seeing is women are ramaining single https://www.forbes.com/sites/andriacheng/2019/08/22/dont-just-look-at-gen-z-or-millennials-single-women-promise-to-be-formidable-consumers/#202f29226cc8 By 2030 45% of women will be single and childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:55 AM
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So do black people so is it OK to treat all black people as hostile? To me that's an attitude that more of one gender do X so it's OK to treat the whole gender are like that. That's literally what sexism is. I'm also not talking just about crime. I'm talking about any given interaction men are viewed as aggressors and women as victims even if you flip the dialog. Watch the video I sent you in my last post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:28 PM
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The reason those lines exist is because men constantly put women first as a natural instinct. The boys will be boys or he'd never do anything like that is nothing compared to the halo effect women have. Look at prison sentences for the same crimes or when people on reddit have revered the genders on posts and in each time people say the male is the one in the wrong. https://youtu.be/iR9tixOJSi0 I'd advise watching this presentation on a scientific study that shows people's anti male bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 08:10 PM
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But there's no equal in group bias for men and women value sex with men and that doesn't make men's lives valuable. I also don't believe it's a sex thing. If an 8 year old is killed it's a bit deal no matter if it's a boy or girl but add ten years and no one cares about the 18 year old man but the 18 year old woman is huge news. Young men simply don't have value. You can give me reasons why but it doesn't change the fact that they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:35 PM
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Being sexually desired has nothing to do with the in group bias for women or the fact women's lives are viewed as more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 07:11 PM
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That's doesn't mean men and women are treated the same by society. Black people have exactly the same but I'd rather not be black. I'm not discussing my personal relationships I'm talking about what I posted above re men are not valued inherently as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:31 PM
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It’s not going to be a profound difference for a woman with an IQ of 110 to date a guy with an IQ of 102. Right but that guy is then probably not going to be in the top 20% of looks. As he's not top 3rd of intelligence he's also not likely to have a degree and she's likely going to be out earning him. So he's not going to be physically, economically or intellectually attractive to her as women like to date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:19 PM
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How do they care about men? How does an average height, average weight, 100 iq 20 year old man get treated in comparison to an average height, average weight, 100 iq 20 year old woman? When I'm saying young men get treated badly I'm implying as opposed to young women. Women have an in group bias, men are seen as disposable the murder of men or men going missing is never going to cause a national outcry like that same guys twin sister would. As the video I linked to you shows simple polite intera…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:08 PM
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I'm not saying getting noticeably fit doesn't help. It made a huge difference for me but I'd say that's more to do with going from skinny lanky guy to very tall kinda jacked guy is a huge difference while a guy who's average height or below isn't going to see the same difference. If you want to do G rather than iq or anything else it is completely irrelevant as you see the exact same bell curve. The simple reality is while there's no perfect way to measure intelligence it's clear it's in a bell …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:02 PM
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Many women find athletes/athletic guys or models attractive even if they have a below average IQ. Sure but I'm discounting the hot 20%of men and talking about the other 80%. most people have an average IQ(on the bell curve 50% of people are on the left of the bell curve. While an iq of 99 is in the boundaries of average it's still also below average as the average is 100. Of the 80% of non hot men 50% are below average intelligence meaning that's 40% of men minimum (it'll be higher because looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:46 PM
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I'm not on here to demolish people I'm here to have conversations where both people leave feeling they have learned something. Simply saying to me that I'm wrong, and even if I'm right it's men's fault and even if I show you evidence to the contrary you are going to dismiss it immediately doesn't feel like we're going to get any where here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:40 PM
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Perhaps watch the video rather than just spouting feminist talking points so we can have a real conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:51 PM
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Right and 50% of men earn a below average wage, 70% of men don't have a degree and half of men are below average intelligence. Aren't they totally fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:45 PM
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I'm not sure we give a shit about young men at all. Women will help out other women and men will help out women. As a man you're very much on your own. https://youtu.be/Ip7kP_dd6LU I'd give this a watch to help understand what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:42 PM
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Really by who?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:43 PM
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Cool feminist now means ugly women who hate men. It used to mean women who want equal rights but it doesn't mean that any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:44 PM
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How are young men valued?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:18 PM
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Taking no action is still an action.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:50 PM
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Me too but people don't want to risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:20 PM
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Exactly so why commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:57 PM
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Exactly. They are extremely risk adverse and marriage and children are huge risks. Look at how people delt with covid. They are hyper risk averse and just want to take the easy path. Well the easy path is you live alone, you consume and you have meaningless relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:55 PM
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Not the majority. I think by their 40s they'll see that kids are likely off the table and at that point what's the point in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:52 PM
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I completely agree with you but committed relationships and children are huge risks and people treat each other like commodities that can be thrown away when inconvenient. I understand why people have their guard up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:41 PM
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My point is that women don't need men for resources and security and men don't need women to look after them. The old benifits of a relationship where you split the chores isn't there any more as it's easy to do it all alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:19 PM
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I'm not trying convince anyone of anything I'm simply saying in my opinion it looks like a great life. If you don't want to do it then I don't want you to bring children into the world with the way you view them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:17 PM
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Risk. Marriage and children are the biggest risks most people are going to take and given the cynical view people have of relationships, marriage and children and how comfy people are in their lives as single people why roll the dice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:15 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:11 PM
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How is that different to the statement I'm making?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:33 PM
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It's the commodification of relationships and people. People don't need each other any more so relationships only exist if they are convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:32 PM
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Then argue for fucking that. My wife doesn't want to work a 70 hour week. Instead of doing this. Trying to convince me that it's so fucking great. Go argue for yourself. I'm saying it's not as bad as you make out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:30 PM
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well banging someone is not a relationship so i don't really see how that's relevant to my statement that more women settle in terms of looks than men settle in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:29 PM
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right but most men find most women attractive most women find most men unattractive. That means way more women are settling in terms of physical attractiveness than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:04 PM
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and do you think the number of men not getting married by 40 is going to increase or decrease in the coming decades given what we can see with the trends at the moment in the west and the trend that are going on the korea and japan?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 01:01 PM
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do you have stats on numbers then vs numbers today or it's kind of not relevant. We're still up to our eyeballs on Valium but women were happier back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:59 PM
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The ideal is that the wife stays home and you support her on a single income. Because staying at home is shitty. No i'd be more than happy to stay home and my wife work 70 hours a week. I can't wait to get home and spend time with my family. I think you're confusing some 1960s lifestyle where staying at home was hard. Now we have washers and dryers and dish washers and roombas and online shopping and banking and everything is automated. I'd have hated to be stuck at home with the kids in the 60s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:57 PM
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Work is awesome if compared to the alternative of the past. the alternative was a single income being able to support a family. Like dude...why do you think men are always trying to convince women that they'll be happier like this, instead of men trying to convince women to let them be like that. I think we're simply pointing out facts and saying "Yeah work sucks I wish I could stay home all day and hang out with my kids I don't get why that's viewed as a negative" Almost nobody wants to do that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:44 PM
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And you think that means they reported greater life satisfaction? I can not see stats on numbers of women drugged so please show me. Either way women are just more prone to depression because of our whacky hormones. Have you evolved different hormones in the last few decades?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:38 PM
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All I'm saying is that there's a bunch of scientific literature on the paradox of female happiness that takes the studies that started in the 1970s. This is from feminist literature too. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/18/womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap here is it being reported in the guardian. I'm not entirely sure why women are less happy now than they were. Men's happiness was never that high to begin with maybe it turns out that work sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:36 PM
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A lot of unhappiness is coming from work loads/unsatisfied with work over dating. So women are better off staying home with the kids than being unhappy at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:28 PM
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Cool show me the stats. Look them up. Just did they're 0 percent of women in the 1970s where on any kind of medication they where all fit and mentally well and that's because they were married and had kids. Don't believe me well look it up. Oh, we have enough data. Then show me the data from the 70s that would have a statistical impact on overall happiness studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:25 PM
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There other studies that show women basically all judge men the same with relatively little differences. Just because you don't like a study doesn't make it not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:19 PM
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yeah not irl, 80% (or even more) of men arent hot enough to pump and dump Your quote from today https://imgur.com/fnNdyW0.jpg one of several studies showing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:15 PM
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Wages would have dropped regardless of women joining the work force, because we live in a capitalistic society, without counter-measures. The opposite even, we have measures to ensure profit. Where else do you think that profit is going to come from? You pay people the least amount you can. If both people are working they need half the amount of money each for the same standard of living. SAHMs have NEVER not been drugged up. Cool show me the stats. But also: you want to state that women are hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:06 PM
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Right but that's still women accepting relationships with what they can get rather than with what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:00 PM
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Women find 80% of men below average in terms of looks men view 50% of women as average or above average. How do the maths work out than more men than women are in relationship with people they don't find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:52 AM
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I'm not saying marriage is the only cause. As you've said women entered the work place and we've seen a drop in wages which is un surprising when you double the work force and a more competitive environment which temperamentally women dislike. It seems like work making women unhappy is similar to saying marriage and raising children makes women happy. Do you have the stats on use of drugs on women in the early 1970s I thought that was a 50s thing. The life satisfaction show it to be way higher e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:32 AM
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You too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:20 AM
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Yeah they're called fat single moms. As with women and billy beta, men find this repulsive and would rather be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:17 AM
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I don't see how that proves men want bad relationships it simply shows they want relationships. If 42% of men want pizza and 29% of women want pizza that doesn't mean men want to eat pizza covered in dog shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:14 AM
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How is an option that you don't want an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:09 AM
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Well it seems as equally an naïve statement as me saying "most women prefer bad relationships over being single".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:01 AM
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Then all women should be with the man of their dreams by snapping their fingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:00 AM
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Cleaner or fastfood worker are low skilled and it's not something like trucking that requires being stuck in a truck and shitting in a bucket or days on end.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:59 AM
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The same is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:56 AM
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I really don't think that's true at all and I'd love to see your studies proving that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:55 AM
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okay well lets take jobs that people don't like doing. Most of these jobs are filled by men with families who are willing to do these jobs because it means his family lives a high quality of life and that makes him happy. If everyone is just single then who is going to do it when you can just get a nice low risk job because living alone is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:53 AM
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I don't understand what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:51 AM
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It's not a matter of sex over porn it's a matter of dealing with a committed relationship and all the work and stress that entails or just living on your own. To me it's a pretty simple formula. a good relationship is better than a bad relationship and a bad relationship is any relationship worse than being single. If being single is comfy then why bother with the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:49 AM
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I agree but then like I said we're back to the same question. What happens when people live lives like this. I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just interested to see how it all pans out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:32 AM
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There are studies on female life satisfaction and it's been dropping since the early 70's which is when they started asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:31 AM
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I'm not so sure people do still like to live together. It's not the convenience it once was. Honestly I found it way easier living on my own than with my wife or any girlfriend and everyone I've ever spoken to (male or female) agrees. If I didn't want kids I would never have lived with anyone ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:26 AM
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well we have seen a massive drop in women's life satisfaction that correlates with the decline is marriage as well as I think 1 in 5 women on anti depressant medication. It doesn't look like it's all getting better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:21 AM
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I'm not saying it is. I'm saying that you'll see people not looking for as you call it "forever partners" so why move in, commit and no one is going to want kids with anyone they view as temporary until inconvenient. To me that's casual dating, That's what I was doing in my teens and 20s and while some relationships lasted a good while I never viewed them as anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:16 AM
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so like I said it becomes a life time of casual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:11 AM
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Don't the happiness studies show this to be totally false?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:10 AM
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I think commitment gets worse as you get older as why commit. I moved from the city to a semi rural area and got married because we wanted to have a family. That becomes less and less likely as you get older. I wouldn't be living where am am if it wasn't for wanting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:08 AM
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i'm not saying they won't date as I said. To me it's points to a life of on/off casual dating with little to no commitment. The question is if all these people in their 50s you know have no problems dating then why are they still dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 10:04 AM
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Right and they're going to find the exact same issues. Not only that but children is likely going to be out of the window and thus so is marriage and given they're so used to living alone so is co-habitation. To me it's points to a life of on/off casual dating with little to no commitment. I view commitment and kids as a huge gamble. They're either going to be great or terrible. However the middle is just that it's not great and it's not awful either. It's simply easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:47 AM
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The question becomes what happens when the people who wouldn't give up what they had for an imperfect person because they loved single life in their 20s-30s are no longer enjoying single life in their 40s and 50s? I loved being single and having my city centre apartment in my 20s but the idea of doing that when I'm 50 seems crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:38 AM
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I'm not arguing that there is anything wrong with it. What It looks like is maximising freedom of choice means people choose to stay alone. There's a lot of discussion in terms of how women don't need men any more because they have their own jobs and life is pretty safe. I think they're very little discussion on how men don't need women any more because modern tech, social media, the internet, porn etc etc has made living alone easier than living with a wife/girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:34 AM
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first gen are poor so women won't marry them. Second/third gen will have the exact same issues and if they are more trad they'll date within their community. To me the issue is simple. Women want to date the most attractive guys when they're younger and we have an extended adolescence in the west. That means most guys are ignored and are just not interested in killing themselves for a date. Women will have to deal with cats and they won't drop their standards and men will have to cope with xbox …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:16 AM
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please see my other reply re Korea and Japan. They have the exact same issue as the west they're just ahead and they are simply not getting married or having children. You basing your data on what people have done in the past not the new reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:08 AM
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Yes. The short story is the the women want to work and date attractive guys then when they settle down they want "company men" these are guys who work crazy hours as they're the only ones who can support a family on a single income. The men are looking at their fathers who are worked to death and never get to enjoy their family and are choosing to work 30-40 hour weeks and simply be consumers and live alone. The women are then faced with marrying either a guy who can't take care of them or stayi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:02 AM
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I'm not talking about fuck bois and I'm not talking about megachads. I'm simply talking about guys who are often looked at as above average not seeing a good reason to commit. My it's my friendship circle but I'm in my mid 30s and so are my friends or they're even older and a bunch of guys are simply not interested in committing and they also happen to be the men who are more successful in dating and make more money. You can see this same issue shown in women's dating blogs. The men they like ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:57 AM
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Then you also can't blame men for refusing to commit. This complete lack of parity between the sexes is just leading to an ever increasing divide. What we're seeing is men understanding that there are 2 types of guys; eligible and ineligible. The eligible see no reason to commit because they know the game is rigged and they have options and the ineligible realise the game is rigged so don't engage. The west will be just like Japan and South Korea in a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:57 AM
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Getting married is a huge risk and having children is an even bigger risk. I prefer life with my family than I did living on my own in a city apartment and I enjoyed living on my own in a city apartment. For some people family life is worse so they break up and they are way worse off than when they started. You need to look at the situation that you're in and decide what is best for you. I'm much happier now than I was and I think in 14 years time when I'm 50 I'm going to but way way happier tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:11 AM
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I don't think you understand what grooming is. Like I said as long as he's transparent with them I don't see any issues. If he's lying to them then that's wrong. I find it unlikely that he would lie because he doesn't need to as there's no shortage of women who would like a casual relationship with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:13 AM
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You seem to think this is a shelf life issue rather than a values issue. Maybe they simply want different things when they are in their mid 20s than they do in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:52 AM
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What I expect from a star like him is to put everything into his craft and if that means forgoing serious relationships then that's OK. He's under no obligation to have serious relationships and as long as he's transparent with the woman I don't see the issue. Do you not believe these women are able to make decisions for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:36 AM
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I don't think it's about tits. I think it's a matter that women under 25 have a different mentally about relationships than women over 25. If he's looking for casual relationships where he can come and go as he likes while he films, travels does his environmental work then that's okay. I have a wife and kids and a dog and that's what I see as valuable but no one has to agree with me on that. If that's the lifestyle he enjoys and values and he's honest with the woman he dates I see no issues with…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:17 AM
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Someone equally hot who's 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:06 AM
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It's not demeaning to break up with people who want different things. Women under 25 want different things to women over 25. I don't know what you mean by "getting away with it" how would anyone else not get away with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:05 AM
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Maybe they simply want different things. Women over 25 are probably going to want to start a life that's not just hanging out with Leo when he's free. It seems Leo wants casual relationships and the best way to achieve that is to date women who also want casual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:01 AM
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Can you just fake confidence? For me at least it was less about faking confidence and more simply getting used to talking to new people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 10:34 AM
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Just be yourself really means "don't pretend to be someone you're not" being more interested, more out going, kinder etc isn't pretending to be someone you're not it's just adjusting to fit the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 10:23 AM
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I don't think politicians are generally considered high value as partners I'd say AOC is more like an influencer than a politician. Either way shes certainly considered high value. movie stars' husbands are considered high value. I couldn't name a single movie stars husband who's not famous in his own right. Can you tell me some examples? If lots of people fucked you then left you're obviously not good enough for them to stay with. You're assuming it's the women that didn't want to commit rather…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:39 AM
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Men control commitment women control sex. A guy who has a lot of women who want to have sex with him is high value. I don't think men look at AOCs boyfriend and think "oh that guy has high market value" I think they look at him and think "That guy's her bitch" despite her being a high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:23 AM
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same reason a woman's success is judged by the ability to secure high value men. It shows that you have high sexual market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:19 AM
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The 2 reasons why you're single when you don't want to be as a guy are. You're not making an effort to meet women You're a mess, so it doesn't matter how many women you talk to they're not going to date you. It's not bad advise to tell guys to work on problem number 2 if they're failing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:08 PM
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I think a lot of men would absolutely never want the ability to get pregnant and go through childbirth Sure and same with a lot of women. What all men would like though is the option. Not having the option is what I'm telling you sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:52 AM
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Why. You're complaining about the ability to have children to men who have no such ability and would love to have it. Yes you're worse off than the guys who women long to have children with but that's not most men. This is the same issue we see IN PPD with dating. Women compare their struggles dating with the men they date, the issue is that the vast majority of men are the men they don't date who women simply don't see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:43 AM
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I don't disagree with anything you've said there. My point is that you are comparing sexually and relationship successful men to all women. It's better to be a man who women would love to have children with than a woman but it's better to be a woman than a man who women are ambivalent or uninterested in having children with which is the majority of men. If you're a guy who's simply middle of the road who women aren't interested in then you are very likely to never be able to have children and as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:35 AM
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Do you even understand what PR departments, advertising departments and lobbyists do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:52 AM
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I hated that I was the only partner who could carry and birth a child and the toll it took on my body and career The issue I take with this statement is while you are correct that vs the man your having a child with you are worse off you are not worse off than men as a whole. The ability to have children is something men don't have and it's not easy to convince a women to have your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:51 AM
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The issue with online dating for women is that they are overwhelmed by their dating options so they have to narrow it down. Things like height, wealth, education and fitness are easy ways to drop your matches down from an unmanageable 1000 to a manageable 50. The issue is that every other woman on the platform has narrowed by the exact same criteria so they guy your matching with has loads of matches so can treat you as disposable meaning you have a terrible time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:44 AM
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Then break up with them. It seems like a win win to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:25 PM
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incompatible libidos are a valid reason to break up with someone, in fact any reason is a valid reason to break up with someone. "If you don't do X I'll break up with you" is a pretty terrible threat because the response by any reasonable person should be to say "OK let's break up" I certainly don't view it as being forced to do something which means it's not coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:48 PM
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Their veiled threats to ditch them if they didn't put out. Sex isn't empowering when it's coerced. I feel like we all agree that lack of sex is a perfectly good reason to break up with someone and no only that but there's no wrong reason to break up with someone. I don't see how saying to a girl you're seeing "Sex is important to me and so if you don't want to that's fine but I'm going to have to break up with you as we're clearly incompatible" Is coercion. If your boyfriend wants to open the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:49 AM
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I was a late bloomer and going from below average to above average was like night and day when it came to interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:35 AM
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If you don't want to date a girl who has ONS then don't date girls who have ONS. If dating a girl who has ONS makes you unhappy you can either get therapy or break up with her. Both answers are correct and remember there's no wrong reason to break up with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:08 AM
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There's a whole ununited bubble of the manospeare which is the male answer to feminism. It's not going to look like feminisem because men are not women. It's very much it's own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:05 AM
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The UK stats show women attempt suicide more often then men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:59 AM
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My wife and I have a joint account that we each pay in a proportion of our wages and this account covers all bills, plus groceries and mortgage. Everything else stays in our personal accounts.
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 08:18 AM
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You're probably dating down in terms of looks and we have our own money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:45 PM
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I'm not saying they're dating in order to have sex I'm saying that they want to date people who they find sexually attrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:34 AM
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Surly the difference there is men who you want to have sex with vs men you don't. I'm sure that there's no shortage of young men who could sell their assholes for a good amount of money but understand it's simply not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:32 AM
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Well I do a lot of reading about it and honestly I don't think I knew much about dating when I was dating I basically did OK because I'm very tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:21 AM
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Maybe for women at the absolute top of their game but there's a Paetro distribution to sex work be it prostitutes, strippers or only fans. The vast majority of women are not worth paying for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:06 AM
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I'm married but I never struggled when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 09:04 AM
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. If a man lives alone then he's doing everything. The reality is that doing everything used to be difficult so having a women to help you was a huge advantage. Now it's super easy to live alone, If anything living with girlfriends/my wife always felt like I had way more house work to do than I ever did living alone. What do women offer a guy who lives on his own? Sex? well every women has a vagina so that's hardly special.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:54 AM
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Let's look at this another way. Single men have it way way better than they used to. We no longer need a women to split the work load because the work load has been made easy with tech. we have roombas, dishwashers, washer dryers with anti crease function, online banking, all bills are done online, grocery's are delivered and things like gusto/hello fresh make cooking a breeze, we can work from home, amazon means we never need to go shopping, nothing is repaired any more it's cheaper to buy new,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:39 AM
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The study shows almost no one breaks up because their partner gets sick and the difference between men and women is statically negatable. I feel bad for anyone who gets left because they got sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:36 AM
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Well then edit your post OP
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:34 AM
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Doesn't that simply make your an outlier? The vast majority of women find attractive men attractive that's why they're so sexually successful unlike the vast majority of men who women don't find sexually attractive but may come to find attractive if they get to know them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 08:26 AM
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The problem we've seen from all the dating app stats is women have too many options so add in a load of preferences for money, education and height which when means they're all matching with the same men and those men aren't interested in commitment because they have so many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:38 PM
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I'd advise reading this https://archive.ph/Ebh6M
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 12:24 PM
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So you don't want to date people who you find sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:06 PM
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Isn't the ideal that by the end of the date/several dates that you want to sleep with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:49 PM
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Yep it's called the "halo effect" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/29/okcupid-experiment-human-beings-dating the top graph shows this clear as day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:45 PM
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You don't think women complain about dating/the men they are seeing? Have you met women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:42 PM
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Why are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:20 PM
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Let's look at this another way. Single men have it way way better than they used to. We no longer need a women to split the work load because the work load has been made easy with tech. we have roombas, dishwashers, washer dryers with anti crease function, online banking, all bills are done online, grocery's are delivered and things like gusto/hello fresh make cooking a breeze, we can work from home, amazon means we never need to go shopping, nothing is repaired any more it's cheaper to buy new,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 07:42 AM
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This is really all it is. If you look at gay and lesbian relationships the memes are men won't commit and women take the moving truck on the second date. desirable men pump the breaks when it comes to commitment and desirable women pump the breaks when it comes to sex. This is also seen in collage campuses with different male to female ratios. Where there's a majority of men we see women dictate the terms and there's more dating and relationships and fewer hook ups where it's majority women then…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:07 PM
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No it's the same as a guy who only texts you when he's drunk and wants to get laid but the girls he's really into he wines and dines. If you're the girl only getting the drunk texts at 2am then he's not really into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:08 AM
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Agreed however it's less bad than women as men are less likely catch STIs than women and men have a much better ability to separate sex from emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 05:13 PM
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I'd advise not living with anyone you don't want a serious relationship with.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 03:12 PM
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I know a bunch that have given up on the idea of cohabitation and certainly marriage. They're all decent looking guys who make above average money. They do still date but it's all short to medium term relationships with a very "take it or leave it" attitude. These are guys in their 30s and 40s but they've been like this forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:07 AM
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I took a 6 weeks off work and did it and it was absolutely great. Hanging out with your kid all day is not a chore. If I could be a stay at home dad I'd absolutely love it. I'm not saying it's not challenging, he just walked in and turned the washer off with 10 mins left on the cycle so I have to restart it and need those clothes for tomorrow (it's 7pm here) but the idea it's more difficult than my job (and I have a pretty chill job) is crazy. It's literally just hanging out with this guy I love…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:16 PM
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The idea that looking after a kid is as hard as work and is a 24/7 job is ridiculous. We have a toddler and he's a joy. If you think hanging out at the park, watching bluey, and playing with blocks is the equivalent of dealing with the stresses of work you're out of your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:39 PM
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The biggest lesson I leant as a tall guy (6'5) is to get out of your own way. As long as you don't say anything stupid you'll be fine as if a woman is into you she'll project a good personality on to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:32 AM
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I don't disagree with this my issue is that you're acting like it's lazy to not do house work if you are the bread winner and I disagree. The negotiation as I see it is that you both put in the same amount of work. If the partner staying home is doing 8 hours of house work and the person with a job does 8 hours of work that's not the person going to work being lazy. If I quit my job then I wouldn't expect my wife to lift a finger around the house. We both have jobs so we both do housework. The i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:04 PM
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I'm a bit confused by this. My wife and I split the chores in the house and both work but the idea that looking after the house or the toddler is as difficult as work seems crazy to me. My time off is looking after my kid, walking the dog, cleaning the house, cooking dinners, doing gardening and it's an absolute breeze. I don't even have a particularly stressful job I just work in a lab and I look forward to my weekends. The idea that staying home with the kids is in any way as difficult as goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:53 PM
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The UK very rarely grants alimony and child support is a percentage of income and has a relitively low cap. I'd also note that it compares to married women not unmarried women. Half of a man's assets is a lot more than just your own assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:34 PM
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Where as you just make vast assertions based on nothing but what you've seen on reddit which is an anonymous forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:57 PM
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http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/29/slut-shaming-study.html Here's another study done on women at colleges. There's also a load of research on this in evolutionary psychology which researchers saying it's a form of keeping other women in line. Women slut shame other women and men simp shame other men. It's a way to try and keep a dating field from becoming lob sided. What you find when dating fields become lop sided I.e. There's more women than men you see a more hook ups and less re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:25 PM
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I like how you've gone from Women shame other women? The only moments I saw people slut shaming is here lol. To you don't like how the study was carried out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:19 PM
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https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/news/a32361/women-are-more-misogynistic-than-men-on-twitter-and-we-despair/ Women make more misogynistic posts than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:59 PM
7

Is that true? Women slut shame a lot more than men do. I'd say it's a matter no one wants relationships with sexually promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:10 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but as I understand it married women in Japan are expected to give up work and be house wives so are only willing to marry men who can provide them with a comfortable living standard. The only men who can provide a comfortable living standard are men who are willing to work 12 hours a day 6 days a week. The issue then becomes that men would rather work a western style 40 hour week and have free time and just provide for themselves than effectively betabux for a wife …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/06/22 05:16 AM
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I'd love to see a study on this over the last 5-10 years. IIRC it was the plurality not the majority of doctors marry other doctors and the largest explanation was that given their working hours as junior doctors they didn't get to meet other people. I'm guessing with online dating that make doctors can cast a wide net and will meet other women. https://www.statista.com/chart/20822/way-of-meeting-partner-heterosexual-us-couples/ Also shows a massive reduction in people meeting at work vs online …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:34 AM
1

I work in biomedical research. A lot go into sales jobs in the industry. Some just go into things entirely unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:47 PM
1

Some people who are highly educated make large amounts of money if they pick a good field and manage to specialise in something that is scarce. The reality for most highly educated people is they end up not using their education. Go look up elite overproduction. I work at a university and see PhD students all the time. Very few end up staying in the field. The vast majority of people who make a lot of money are people who work long hours in skilled jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:37 PM
1

Once again education level is not the same as working in a high earning, high pressure, long hours position. I 100% agree that education is a positive for women at least in terms of finding a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:23 PM
1

The link I sent you seems to show different tax brackets. Men don't want to date boss bitch career women but yes you're also correct that women refuse to date down. You understand that means being successful means that you're much less likely to ever be in a happy, committed relationship right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:47 AM
1

No it's showing that married men make more than married women. Women actually out earn men under 30 and never married women out earn never married men. What it shows is that men marry women who make less money than them. Being a high earning woman decreases your dating pool. Being a high earning man increases your dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:36 PM
1

That's not the numbers of what's going on with dating though see my previous link.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:39 PM
1

I've already agreed with you on education. What we disagree on is earnings and working hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:14 PM
1

Do you have a source on that? https://imgur.com/Pr7ZMVc.jpg says that you're incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:45 PM
2

We're discussing successful men not average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:40 PM
2

It doesn't indicate poor choices it indicates that you're following a passion and aren't career focused. Men who work 60 hour weeks don't want to date women who work 60 hour weeks. It's not a matter of mooching if you have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:24 PM
2

No they care about education and class. You could be doing charitable work for 0 money and he'd be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:05 PM
4

Because men don't care about how much money you make. You've achieved something that women value in men and are annoyed that men don't value it in women. It's like an 20 year old skinny guy saying "I'm short, young and skinny why don't women automatically want to date me when men automatically want to date 20 year old, 5'2, skinny women"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:10 AM
2

Are you annoyed that men have standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:06 AM
2

Most women are doing the bare minimum but expect commitment from high value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:58 AM
2

She's mad because he stopped simping. She preaches about how entitled he was yet doesn't recognise that she clearly felt entitled to his simping and is still butt hurt he walked away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:30 PM
0

I agree with the vast majority of the people on this thread that no you can't be friends with someone you have feelings for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:30 PM
3

Sure but it's still a scummy thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:52 PM
2

I don't think it's not reading between the lines when he told you he had feelings for you. I like how women claim to have loads of emotional intelligence but when it comes to orbiters they are dumber than dudes al of a sudden. What man that is successful with women follows mgtow? Most MGTOW stuff was by and for divorced guys IIRC so it seems weird he'd be into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:51 PM
1

Why is it a guys fault when he's using a women who's in love with him for sex? If she doesn't like it she can always leave. So what if she's declared her love for him when he has always said "well i only want to be friends"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:46 PM
2

By fun to hang out with you mean someone who was always happy to do what you wanted and listen to you while you talked? Did you spend much time doing things that he wanted? Going to movies he wanted to see or going to comic book conventions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:44 PM
2

stopped hanging out with someone in love with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 12:43 PM
5

she's not accepting his faults she thinks of him as less than her. Friends don't think of friends as less than them. Friends don't let people waste their life fawning over them. She fully understands that he was her obiter. If this was a guy and using a girl for sex for 10 years while she was in love with him and confessed her love for him but he said "Nah we're just friends" I think you'd be able to understand. It's the exact same situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:52 AM
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Because she wasn't his friend. She thought he was a pile of hot garbage and she took advantage of him because he had feelings for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:16 AM
2

Every Transman says you're talking out of your ass. Testosterone has a massive impact on sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:08 AM
2

Seems weird you'd hang out with a guy who you describe as "obese, undereducated, comic book obsessed, less paid than I". I think why men some times get annoyed at women is that they use men like this who are losers. To me being friends with some who has told you that they have caught feeling is kinda scummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:55 AM
2

Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:44 PM
1

It is the unborn. If you're busy you can save time by not asking stupid questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:38 PM
1

How is it unfair. If you get to kill it men should at least get to abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:29 AM
1

This is exactly the same argument for banning abortion. Don't want to deal with the consequences of sex? Stop having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:28 AM
1

The stats are showing that they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:25 AM
3

I invite you to do a poll on the number of men who would be interested in having sex over the next 4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:30 PM
1

And what number would you except?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:20 PM
1

I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:18 PM
3

And sex becomes a priority when other priorities are met
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:18 PM
2

The chances are you're dating the same 20% of men that 80% of women are trying to date as those men have so many options they will ditch you on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:43 PM
1

Be less shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:33 PM
2

Those men are misinformed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:33 PM
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Your question was Okay I genuinely need someone to clarify this. Is that really the case for the average man. I ask bc it means all the men in my life (friends, best friends, friends of friends) are above average bc they’ve never struggled with dating to the extent the men of this subreddit dictate the average man does. Fuck, a majority of them have never even touched a dating app. Am I really that much of a statistical anomaly? If men could be fucking they would be so the answer is YES YOU ARE …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:32 PM
3

Food, security, shelter > sex
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:30 PM
1

K
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:29 PM
1

Agreed. Women like shiney shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:29 PM
2

Women treat men like a wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:18 PM
1

Move out of the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:17 PM
2

Go look up how people date and marry. Pro tip it's along education and class lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:17 PM
3

Once all their other needs are met.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:16 PM
2

Great, you get their life insurance policy and can live it up. Win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:15 PM
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That's an option of the writer not a stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:14 PM
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Agreed however it's a multivariable. You understand the rewards for jobs are not just income they are status and what status affords you is better assortive dating. Once you're at a point that you're lower needs are met then you begin considering higher needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:50 PM
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Caring more about friends than sex doesn't mean not caring about sex just like caring more about family than friends doesn't mean not caring about friends. I believe that I answered your question re are most men not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:47 PM
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https://archive.ph/838QV The majority of men are graduating University Virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:33 PM
2

You don't need much for that. Living alone is relatively inexpensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:02 PM
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It's relatively high status, if you work as an independent then it's well paid and from what I've seen when ever I've been to hospital their primary job is eating biscuits and gossiping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 01:03 PM
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Incorrect. Men value class, status, education, and success. What they don't value is a career that takes up all her time or how much she makes. The vast majority of people date and marry within their socal class. Being a high status woman gives you much better access to higher status men. Being exceptionally attractive as a woman can up your status because you can get by on your looks to become higher status. Dr's aren't marrying hot women who work at McDonald's but at the same time most hot wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:54 PM
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They are shrinking in some areas however things like long distance lorry drivers are going up and we already have a shortage, this also goes for trades people, loggers, oil rig workers, fishermen, welders, sewage and sanitation workers. No one is going to take these jobs when they don't have to. No one is sleeping in a truckers cot and shitting in a bucket when they can work in a warm office.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:26 PM
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Thank you, it's been nice talking to you too. I don't think spouses or children are guaranteed to be the most impactful or important but they are the relationships with the greatest potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:42 AM
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What's motivating woman? High value male commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:36 AM
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You seem to just be saying what he's saying but not looking at the inverse. Both sexes don't need each other in the ways they used to. Relationships often now feel like more effort than they are worth as we don't need each other. The men who can capitalise on this will be highly desirable and thus will refuse to settle down. The men who can't will check out and become even less datable. Women will have the choice between fuck bois, undatable losers and staying single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:30 AM
2

Is he wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:53 AM
3

I think we have quite a different view on what constitutes middle age. I veiw young adult as late teen/early 20s. Maybe that's because you don't want children or maybe it's because men at 80 are fucked but women often seem to be fine. When people talk about their happy memories or what gives their life meaning they will almost always talk about times with their loved ones and close relationships. The deepest and most valuable relationship you'll ever have is with your spouse and/or children. To …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:53 AM
2

Sure What would you consider your current stage in life? I recently turned 36 and I'd say I'm early middle aged. Did you feel in your mid 20s that you'd be happy doing that in your mid 30s? Would you feel happy now living the lifestyle you did in your mid 20? I was pretty fucking irresponsible in my mid 20s and wasn't in a particularly healthy mindset. I don't think I viewed myself as capable of being a husband or a father at that time. I certainly wouldn't want to go back to that lifestyle now.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:42 AM
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What would you consider your current stage in life? Did you feel in your mid 20s that you'd be happy doing that in your mid 30s? Would you feel happy now living the lifestyle you did in your mid 20? When would you say that you are in the second half of your life and do you think that you have to take steps in your 30s to prepare for the second half of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:07 AM
1

Sure but you can argue exactly the same is true for women. Porn isn't a replacement for sex in the same way friends are not a replacement for a husband or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:25 AM
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My issue with the former is you're telling 19 year old men that if you work really hard and get a good job then when you're 30 you'll maybe have a shot at getting laid. When young men hear this they'll most likely just take the L, smoke weed and play videogames.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:52 AM
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Sounds like this guy was right https://quillette.com/2021/06/28/mate-selection-for-modernity/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:50 AM
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Why are you open to it if you don't desire it? To me that sounds like a total cope. Look if you have some amazing career and life style that's not going to be effected by age then I get it but that's an incredibly small percentage of the population. The reality for most people who stay single is a pretty bleek outlook on the second half of your life. In 10 years time do you really want to be doing exactly what you're doing now with maybe a bit more money and even more fur babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:06 AM
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Most modern women are perfectly fine/content with being single (in the context of LTRs and marriages) if there aren't sufficient quantities of quality men... Maybe in their 20s but not so much when they are in their 30s and 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:14 AM
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This is going to be a real issue soon. If you look who does the "dirty jobs" it's almost entirely men and they almost entirely do it to make enough money to support their families. If men and women continue to separate then men will continue to choose comfortable jobs because there's no point in risking your health for money you don't need.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:03 AM
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How are men dependent on women? Living alone with the Internet and modern appliances is incredibly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:59 AM
3

Chris Williamson fits exactly what you've described. https://youtube.com/c/ModernWisdomPodcast
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:19 PM
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The men who like women and enjoy their company are attractive men. The difference how women treat you when they view you as not attractive and attractive is night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 08:33 AM
1

OK dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:49 PM
1

I think they're taking a quote out of context. I don't really understand the attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:37 PM
1

I think you're reading about what he says by people who hate him rather than actually listening to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 12:55 PM
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That seems to be very pedantic and if i recall his point was more about how these stories have evolved together other thousands of years. The old testament is really a collection of the surviving ideas and stories that worked. Most of what Peterson does now is his podcast where he has on experts in fields. It's pretty boring and dry. Peterson seems to be someone who says a bunch of boring unremarkable points then people get mad at him because they don't like him to interpreted it negatively. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:42 AM
2

Can you give us a few examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:59 AM
1

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-03-05-9703050008-story.html That's the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:39 PM
1

It's saying that murdering them is a mercy because their lives are worthless. I'm not a Republican and isn't that all laws? Don't agree with rape? Fine then don't rape people but don't force your will upon everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:05 PM
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No one in Ireland was either. It's called outcomes of laws. That's what happened to those women. Savita was one of them, that's why the law was challenged in Ireland and struck down. Because these women were dying because of doctors who would not perform the procedure on them. Wasn't that case medical malpractice rather than a problem with the laws? I'm glad Ireland changed their laws however i doubt it's saving women's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 12:02 PM
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But that wasn't an option for women with high-risk or ectopic pregnancies like Savita Halappanavar. Instead, those women, typically married, just died. No one in the US is arguing against medical intervention for ectopics. Why would I stop fucking? I've been in a monogamous relationship for seven years. I could just simply choose not to live in a third-world country like America, like my mother did before me. The bonus there is you don't have to fuck third-world American men with third-world men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:51 AM
1

Not sure what you're talking about, the stats I'm referring to are from the World Health Organization. They are the ones reporting that 30,000 women die per annum from non-doctor-supervised abortions. Right but that's around the world not in THE US or in a place like Ireland. The reality of illegal abortions in the US will be the same as in Ireland where they simply got the chemical abortion pill from the UK or in the US a blue state. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-el-salvador-suicide-teens-…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:25 AM
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I'm trying to say that it's nonsense that America is the most prosperous nation in the world. It has the most billionaires in it. That doesn't speak to the reality of poor people, as any third-world country isn't defined by the quality of life of their rich. So are their lives worth living or not? Is killing them a mercy? America being a third-world country will also now see the disparity in life expectancy outcomes that already exists growing as women who die from botched abortions will disprop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:07 AM
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So any country with a life expectancy below Costa Rica should have all pregnancies terminated because their lives are not worth living? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that if someone isn't middleclass in a rich country they're lives are so terrible it's better that they're killed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:57 AM
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So anyone born poor in the richest country the world has ever seen is going to live a life of suffering or at the very least a life liberals consider not worth living? Would you walk up to any child who was given up for adoption and say "You should never have been allowed to be born"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:24 AM
1

While Liberals hate both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:24 AM
3

Do you believe that a woman approaching a man is the same as a man approaching a woman in terms of perceived threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:42 PM
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There's a big difference between talking to someone because you have something in common with and talking to someone of the opposite sex because you find them attractive. People understand what's going on when they are being cold approached and it is more likely going to be exceptionally awkward when you have limited experience and that's going to come across and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 07:47 AM
5

There's a line between being a 3/10 women who only wants to date tall, rich dudes and a women who lets her self get fucked by a different drug dealer each week.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:34 AM
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It's a matter that they're willing to do X to make their previous partner happy but not willing to do X to make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 08:59 AM
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Childrens names are firmly included in dumb shit. I say this as a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:29 PM
42

sure but most people get some dumb shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:16 AM
1

More purple than red but I don't like my mother at all and haven't spoken to her since I was 14. In some ways you could say she's the reason I was never redpilled because to be truly redpill you need to start off blue pilled and she red pilled the fuck out of me..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:00 AM
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Yep. If it was negative they'd be taking out their anger on women, if it's positive they're looking for mommy. Lose lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:57 AM
0

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying that they are mistaking them for older women I'm saying that these girls are sexualizing themselves and broadcasting sexual avaliablity then being mad that they are attracting creeps. It's an unfortunate reality that creeps exist but they do and they always will. My advice to underage girls is to maybe not walk around in a crop top and hot pants with juicy written on them if you want to avoid unwanted attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:01 PM
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There's the issue here that a large number of 16 and 17 year olds are trying to attract men around their own age and do so by dressing provocatively. I don't think old men should be creeping on young girls but you also have to accept that if you attempt to illicit a sexual desire response from men that you are casting a wide net and you may not like what you end up catching.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:48 PM
1

What are you defining as little girls? Do you mean girls that are like 15-16?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:15 AM
1

Yes we're now able to reach what amounts to maximum potential height rather than having our bodies stunted. Our DNA hasn't changed, our environment has.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:47 AM
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Wrong https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/expectant-parents-strong-preference-gender-child-45247/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:24 AM
1

They are worthless and disposable and it's entirely due to their own actions. Just like over eating, doing drugs, tattooing your face, not getting an education/job etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 08:41 AM
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But 2x and FDS are still up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:26 PM
4

People say "No one likes a show off" That's not true people love a show off if what he's showing off is awesome. you want to show off your world of war craft character then people are going to be annoyed, You wanna invite me to your new mega yacht, I'm fucking there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:26 AM
1

You can go down the rabbit hole with this but most of the large and default subs are controlled by a relatively small number of super moderators who decide the direction the sub is going to take and pick moderators who will enforce their particular ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:58 AM
9

Mental illness and cheap hair dye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:51 AM
6

women control sex and men control commitment and their resources. Women tend to slut shame and men tend to simp shame. the reason for this is it devalues your asset that you don't want to give up without getting something that you'd like in return and if someone is being a slut/simp and they're fucking with the market value. There are great studies on this when it comes to places where one sex out numbers the other. Where there are fewer men there's a lot more casual sex, short term relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:51 AM
1

The 20% are all who matter as they are all you are willing to date. The other 80% of men might as well be dead. The issue women and in particular FDS women don't seem to understand is that you have 2 options. Dictate the terms of a relationship with a man who you don't want a relationship with or have the terms of the relationship dictated to you by a man you want to date. There is no 3rd option. You will never find a desirable man who will have a relationship on your terms because he has 5 othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 07:17 PM
1

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that men always have the strongest feelings and fewest options? That's certainly true for a lot of men but it's not true for the men who women want to date aka HVM. A HVM is a man with options and they are scarce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:12 PM
1

What is his commitment good for anyways? Sounds like I’m just giving away my loyalty and get nothing. Men feel the exact same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 06:02 PM
1

You can try to shame men all you like but they're still not going to want to commit to a ho because she's "changed strategies" from fucking every guy over 6ft to wanting a guy to provide her with everything while not putting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:19 PM
0

I read FDS regularly and it's mostly women that have fucked a tonne of "chads" and FDS was their "awakening".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:12 AM
2

I'll bite. Having a child is like doing a million hours of unpaid work but the result is a productive member of society. In other words you do unpaid labour to make everything better for everyone including yourself. It's like if their was a beautiful community garden but everyone had to put in a few hours a week to maintain it. You couldn't pay someone else, you had to do it. Now imagine what happens when fewer and fewer people tend to the garden? If no one does the work there will be nothing le…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:09 AM
1

The "older sibling" argument always confuses me. You still have to raise that first child with no help and you have to do a very good job if you're going to expect them to be able to look after younger kids. I only have 1 very young child and the idea that I'd find it particularly helpful to have a 6 year old running around seems a little crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:02 AM
3

You're most likely doing what I and other "hard gainers" do and saying things like "Nah I had a huge pizza to myself yesterday and didn't put on any weight" That's not how you gain weight. you need to overeat by several hundred calories per day everyday, no excuses. You'll start to really see a difference in around 3 months if you do that (and lift obviously)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:19 AM
2

I assume that means you're happy with coffee dates and walks right? Lol FDS you users are all over the place with your little ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 09:28 PM
2

I completely agree with you. You were the one that derailed the conversation by attempting to insult men by implying they're the low effort sex despite understanding that women are by nature the low effort sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 09:01 PM
2

The fact that you point out that men chase women shows you know that men are the ones making all the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 08:08 PM
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You should try dating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:41 PM
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I'm curious of the woman who did break up with the guy was it because he was making unreasonable demands of her or not putting in any effort because she was easily replaceable?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:33 PM
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It's basically signing one form rather than dozens and the form you're signing has a tonne of legal precedent. I'd also add that you are doing it publicly in front of your loved ones which I see as giving it meaning. There's a social element where it's a contract that it's not really socially acceptable to break (people don't really want to date divorcees) There's obviously an issue with divorce where if you're a guy making a million dollars a year and working 100 hours a week then your wife has…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 06:27 PM
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Work life balance and safe work places still aren't a thing for men. Kids still play with their friends and if not they're stupefied by the Internet and videogames. Scheduled activities were always a thing and kids still walk to them now or at least they do where I live. Dropping your kids off is not a huge chore. Where are these older siblings appearing from? You have to raise them to take care of the younger ones and people are now having 1-2 kids not 3-4. I'd love to see your appliances and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 01:22 PM
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Yep. They act like they live a comparable life to a woman who'd have to ring up a bunch of different companies trying to get the best prices then write out cheques, go to the post office then go to the bank, the butchers, the supermarket, the DIY store and the department store get home clean up everything by hand then cook dinner from scratch with no video guides then finish the day mending clothes/curtains etc. Home making was literally a full time job now it's an hour a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:39 AM
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Most men graduating university in the UK are leaving as Virgins. https://www.reddit.com/r/virgin/comments/nu0204/new_data_from_the_telegraph_indicate_that_levels/ The 3rd that aren't are most likely lucky or hyper eligible. 80/20 rule in effect. The issue as I see it is women only want relationships with the top men in an environment where everything is equal (you're all just broke ass students at uni) I'd be surprised if women were the ones breaking up relationships with the highly eligible men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 10:48 AM
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Do you really think running a house is as difficult today as it was in the 50s? Between the Internet and modern appliances it's unbelievably easy. Bills, banking, shopping, groceries is all done online. Washer dryers, dishwashers, roombas make house work a breeze and we have video guides on how to cook absolutely anything and it's cheaper to replace than to repair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 10:14 AM
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I'd like to know how true that is with young people at the moment with modern dating creating men who are either hyper eligible or entirely ineligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 10:02 AM
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He's saying "don't be a money slut".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:19 PM
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Dude it's a metaphor, chill out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:21 PM
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Well I certainly don't feel sorry for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:01 PM
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It's a person who wrote reviews about men and posted them online. People are shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:50 PM
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He probably didn't want her to come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:16 PM
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Why would the Chad give a fuck about if some slut had a good time? It'd be like showing concern for a fleshlite.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:54 PM
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Knowing with absolute certainty that you're going to be caught will stop people from lying. Speed cameras work in the areas they exist because people know they'll get caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:22 AM
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Wouldn't testing stop people from thinking they can get away with cheating? No one speeds next to a speed camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:45 AM
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show me the criminal statutes making "creating a false legal relationship" a crime? I'm not saying it is. I'm saying that it should be a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 05:03 PM
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And many crimes do. The correct punishment for committing fraud to turn a man in to an indentured servant or simply steal from him for decades is prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:30 PM
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It's creating a false legal relationship. A father has legal financial duties to his child I.E. Child support given to the mother. If someone hacked into the wedding registry and made it so someone was their husband/wife so they could divorce them and take half their stuff it would be a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:25 PM
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I'm not talking about law suits I'm talking about criminal prosecution
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:11 PM
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Well the level of harm it can do is huge. If I blackmail a person then it doesn't matter if I do or don't release the information it's that I threatened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:50 PM
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I don't think it is just a financial crime. Most men view their obligations to their children as much more than just giving the minimum amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:28 PM
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Potentially ruining a mans life though fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:27 PM
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So crimes shouldn't be punished because prison is expensive? Should rapists not go to jail because it costs money?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 01:12 PM
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no it sets a standard to prevent other women from doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:59 PM
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No but it does jail people for fraud. In law, fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain. Can we agree that making a statement of fact that "You are the father" after you let 50 guys blow loads in you is deceptive as you are giving an appearance or impression different from the true one which is "you might be the father". Can we also agree that if you are listed as the father you have a legal requirement to give the woman money thus securing unfair gain? If This is true (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:56 PM
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Putting her to jail would inflict the risk of the kid getting into the system. So mothers shouldn't be punished for crimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:49 PM
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Right but by saying "You're the father" when there's a 1 in 50 chance you're clearly being dishonest. Fuck whoever you want just don't try and deceive men. I'd assume him buying shit for her/the baby or even marrying her. There's a good reason women lie about who the father is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:47 PM
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If you fuck 50 guys and find you're pregnant and you only tell one guy that it's his baby when you have no idea that's clearly deceptive. You should say "It might be yours" by stating "You're the father" it's intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:35 PM
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If the child is proven not to be yours, that's evidence. babies with mixed up paperwork could still be yours but that doesn't change the fact that they should make sure they are after they knew they mixed up the paperwork. You don't just not says something and hope you get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:27 PM
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Because you seem to be acting like it's not really a big deal and I'm wondering if it's because you can't see why it is? The point of the thread seems to be that maybe like a hospital is punished a woman should be punished too. If she's fucking other people when she got pregnant and doesn't inform you of that then that's like mixing up a bunch of babies paperwork and just being like "hey This is your kid" while knowing it could be any number of different children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:12 PM
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If hospitals were mixing up between 0.8 per cent to 30 per cent of babies would you feel the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:03 PM
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I agree with you about this when people talk about financial abortion of their children but no man should have any obligation to pay for a child just because a woman says she wants you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:57 AM
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I respect that and as I can't imagine anything worse for a child than being raised by someone who calls them crotch goblins I hope you do the right thing and get the snip. My issue with being childfree is it assumes that having extra cash in the bank is better than the strongest most meaningful relationship you'll ever have. I simply can't imagine thinking I'd rather have a couple of hundred dollars extra a month than my kid. I think once people are in their 30s and 40s and money isn't much of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:43 AM
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I'm suggesting that historical oppression isn't relevant to modern life. We were all serfs 300 years ago. Well we can politely disagree on who was or was not a good political candidate but I think most reasonable people would agree both hillary and trump were fucking terrible. If your point is that there's an unfair expectation of women to be primary care givers then I agree. I also hope you'd agree that there's an unfair expectation for men to sacrifice their dreams and time with their children…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:07 PM
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I don't think all childfree people are going to be regretful. What I think is that people often do have a myopic view about their futures. It's easy to think what makes you happy now will continue to make you happy in the future. I'd also say I think mid 40s is where people who perhaps should have had children will start to regret it as your lifestyle is going to begin to change in the second half of your life. About half the people I'm friends with don't seem interested in having children and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:48 PM
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Back to blaming the all powerful but indefinable force of patriarchy when you don't have an argument. I always find it funny talking to leftists because depending on their particular form of brainwashing the entire west is controlled by a magical power; patriarchy, white supremacy, cis hetro normativity, capitalism etc etc. You guys are so funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:00 PM
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how they view women having jobs, careers and their own incomes. I view it as a positive. What I see as a negative is the attitude that working for a company is some how better or more valuable than having a family. Does this play into your attraction to such women or a lack of attraction? competence is attractive, being more interested in your job than your family is unattractive. Do you prefer women who follow a more strict traditional path (woman stays at home and tends the kids and house) or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:32 AM
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If you want to include prison rapes, then you have to weight the proportion of rapists even more heavily towards men. No one is saying men don't commit more rape and violent acts than women we're saying that everyone is the victim of sociopaths. You're not going to have a good time if you green light judging people on their immutable characteristics and corelated crime stats. Hillary would have been several orders of magnitude more competent and less destructive than Trump. And that made her a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:32 AM
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Men are raped more than women if you include prisons. I wonder how feminists are going to try and keep brushing this off now traswomen are raping women in prison. Yeah hillary was terrible. If women want a female president then vote for one. Women vote in larger numbers than men. If you want to be a CEO then start compaines. No one is going to gift it to you. You have to compete. Women earn more than men under 30 and never married women out earn never married men. Women who have kids earn less b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:30 AM
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Surely the issue of STIs are more prominent from the men who are highly sexually desirable? I agree women are right to be sexually selective, the issue is when you're fucking 30 Chads bareback and acting like that means you're being careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:15 PM
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I'm not sure they deny the 80/20 rule, I think they say that it only applies to physical attraction and there's more to female attraction than that. Not wanting a relationship on a man's terms is perfectly reasonable. Being a simp isn't a fun experience for either gender and you're better off alone. I feel bad because they are unhappy and the dating market sucks. I feel much worse for men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:53 AM
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MGTOW seemed like a support group for divorced men rather than something for young men that aren't interested in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:37 PM
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By this analogy incels/MGTOW etc are like /r/antiwork. jobs ask too much and pay too little so they'd rather just quit the whole system in the hope that by quitting en masse the system improves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 12:40 PM
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I think they have they just don't really talk about it. If you look at how men are acting I.E. Not making an effort to be successful, gain status etc it's them rejecting the work required to get a women. They're doing this because they don't need a woman, if they did they'd do the work. While women have had a very loud rebellion with the girl boss, strong independent women etc etc because they don't need men to provide for them any more men have had a quiet rebellion where they've realised that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:43 AM
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I feel bad for women's dating problems. Women can't help that they're not attracted to the vast majority of men, especially young men who have no money or status. This means the small percentage of men they are attracted to are the same small percentage of men all women are attracted to. This means that they're either going to have no relationship or a relationship entirely on the mans terms. Is that better than what most men have which is being ignored or even treated as a threat/creep by women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:47 AM
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Yeah? How long have you been together?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 09:23 AM
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So you are non traditional in all the ways men desire but you expect a man to give you all his money so you can stay at home. You're literally the worst of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 07:53 AM
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There were The Iroquois. They're an interesting study in politics as men tend to run things based on competing ideas where they ran things based on consensus of ideas. In other words if they believed it to be true then it was true (think 1984). To me this shows why we don't see matriarchal societies because reality doesn't care about your consensus or attempt to make the group happy. Women it seems would rather live in a society of feels over reals even if that means the society doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:25 PM
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So where are all the female run companies that are out competing their male ran competitors?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:19 PM
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I've never had men inquire about my N count or what sex acts I did with exes. Men ask about your life they don't ask you how many people you fucked. I bet you can gauge that shit with men by talking to them too. I never had my options decrease as I got older. The QUALITY of the men I dated after my 20s was much higher than in my 20s. It's not about who you can date it's about who you can get to commit. If you're dating better people now than in your 20s it's because you were selecting shitty men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:15 PM
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I never said anything about that. Please stop lying. Answer the question and stop attempting to dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:35 PM
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a thirteen year old is a teenager and being able to drive does not equal being able to consent to sex. My opinion is that 16 year olds should not be fucking 20 year olds. I think that's wrong. You seem to think that's okay. I want to know where you draw the line. 15-19? 14-18? 13-17?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:19 PM
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Are you going to answer my question RE a 4 year age gap is a large gap depending on the age of the 2 people involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:58 PM
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There's no age of consent in a bunch of Arab countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:25 PM
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okay so what about an 16 and a 12 year old? It's the same age difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 09:13 AM
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I stopped reading at "demisexual"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:44 PM
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Your end goal is sex with the hot dumb guy and resource extraction from the plain smart guy. Hence why you play sex games to extract the maximum amount of resources from Mr plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:01 PM
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No I'm saying that if men are into a woman they won't play sex games, making them wait. Even extremely selective men will not do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:53 PM
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Some people choosing to wait until marriage to have sex is not the same as fucking hos on the first date but making a girl you really like wait. I like your strawman non sequitur of saying "sex is not owed to you" as if i made any kind of statement suggesting that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:03 PM
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Men wouldn't make the women they are interested in relationship with wait for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:39 AM
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Sexlessness is a symptom of the fact that most young men don't offer anything of value to most young women. Women rate the vast majority of men as below average in terms of looks alone and most young men have no status. Women have their own money in fact they out earn men under 30 and never married women out earn never married men. They also hold 4 out of every 7 degrees. Women also have access to all the attractive, high status men via tinder, Facebook, Instagram etc. I think most young men und…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 09:48 AM
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communities with mass incarceration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:44 PM
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Anything effective gets banned. If you're taking flack it means you're over the target.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:36 PM
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If you remove 30% of men from a monogamous society you're going to have problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:13 PM
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When men ask this question you're right they do hear that from men but from women they get shaming responses like "Stop being insecure" "You need to man up" "Why don't you trust her? Do you think she's a liar?!" The issue is that the best way to judge future behaviour is by looking at past behaviour (your credit score exists for a reason). Attempting to tell a man to just suppress his insecurity by telling him he's not a real man if he feels insecure about the fact she's shown herself to not be …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:36 PM
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I wouldn't say it like that, but that would be what I'm saying lol. I agree and I do feel the same about the sex thing too. Love that Roosevelt quote. I've never heard it before, so thanks for that. No problem Exactly. If you're not happy then find someone that makes you happy. I think this is really the issue. You can try and tell someone that they should just not be insecure and to just trust their partner when they say "I'm just not like that any more" But the reality is that people are insec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:35 AM
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Valid? I wouldn't invalidate someone's feelings but I would say that I think it's a recipe to be miserable comparing yourself to others instead of focusing on what you need to be happy. would you tell her she's acting entitled? To go back to your analogy, if said man had financial issues because he was spending lavishly on dates with superficial women I would be impressed that he's matured past that. Fiscal responsibility is important. If you feel that he's being too cheap that would be the issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:11 AM
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That's fair enough and very maturate of you. Do you think it would be valid for a women to feel bad that her partner didn't treat her as well as her ex? Would you call her entitled if she wanted to be brought to the same restaurants he took his ex to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:58 AM
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but I have good evidence that he's lying, of course I'm going to feel insulted. But you're not going to have good evidence just as any man isn't going to have good evidence. What you can say is that your partner has been like this with everyone but you so it'll feel like you're the common denominator. Does he have a reasonable answer about why those women were much prettier than me? If there are extra parts to the situation, especially bad parts, then it explains itself. He was a different perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:50 AM
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What about holidays, gifts, maybe he was cooking for his exs but unwilling to do that for you? Really this is obviously a metaphor for your partner was willing to do anything to make their ex's happy but with you they're unwilling to make the same effort. Would you accept that because they say "But I've changed and making that kind of effort makes me uncomfortable now"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:29 AM
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Well that's the problem, you don't know. All you know is that the person you're dating was willing to do anything to make their previous partners happy but unwilling to do the same for you. They say it's because they've changed but you also notice that their exs were much more attractive than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:24 AM
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No there's totally truth to what you're saying and there's a problem with toxic behaviours that are gendered. What I have a problem with is an attitude ( and I'm not saying you have this) that there's a general problem with men. I don't think that there is. That's not to say men don't have problems as we clearly do but we're also great husbands, fathers, and friends and we do offer a different kind of relationship to mothers, sisters and female friends. https://youtu.be/Ip7kP_dd6LU Would be wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 10:04 AM
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I mean, the articles I’ve read suggest that the reluctance to seek help for mental health struggles is a result of the idea that men are ‘strong’. Which wrongfully suggest that strength is the absence of problems as opposed to working to fix the problems. There's a difference between strong and macho. Macho is the problem. Toxic masculinity doesn’t mean men are toxic, just that the culture of masculinity as it has existed - men functioning as the sole provider and protector, the head of the fami…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:46 AM
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Men are less likely to seek medical help for all problems which I agree is a problem. My issue is that this gets conflated with. I think men are taught not to open up and suppress things from an early age - crying is looked down upon, having struggles makes you weak Which isn't the same thing at all. There's a line between repressing things and not moaning that you should walk. There's a difference between crying over something valid and never developing the ability to not cry over something sil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 09:22 AM
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I don't think this is true. Men are free to open up, it's about not whining and moaning. It's not about it not being attractive to women it's a matter that boys don't want to hang out with boy who moans and bring everyone down. It's also not a matter that you're taught not to cry. The reality is that you're taught to self sooth. At a certain point you shouldn't be crying because you got a little fright when you fell off your bike. I can already see this with my 1 year old son. He used to cry whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:50 AM
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OK let's say 2 months into dating you find out that the guy your dating used to exclusively date hot bimbos and pay for expensive dates, gifts, holidays for them but with you he goes 50/50 and only really wants to hang out at his apartment. He says "I've changed and I no longer feel comfortable spending that much time and money on women as I'm more interested in a committed relationship now" How would you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:24 AM
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You should judge the crimes they are committing based on local laws and enforcement. Weed in the UK is not the same as weed in say the Philippines. I understand that about the abuse but the answer is not to start taking loads from the guy. That's the worse idea you can have. That's the point you get on the pill and GTFO before your life is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:32 AM
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She's an inspiration and a good mother. Well from your description she sounds like a fucking train wreck but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 10:23 AM
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Because dunking on people online is fun and cathartic and there's a lot of angry people on here from incels/black pillers, FDS that want to take out their anger on each other. I've had good discussions on here that have made me more empathic towards women's problems with dating but it's hard because so many female posters on here just have a "men bad, women good" attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:19 AM
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I think he aged to be a bit physically terrifying. Now if this was the 90s and he was still in his Jordan Catalano era it would be a different story. He's now 50 so yeah unless your older then I wouldn't expect you to find him attractive but you can't say he's average as he's clearly not. His facial structure is top tier, he's just old. And I find people I see outside on a day to day more appealing than most celebrities. Maybe people shouldn’t compare themselves to other peoples’ perceptions of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 02:47 PM
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I literally said that some people are naturally going to be better than others at sales and you're saying you're a naturally good talker and very socially adept and telling me that I'm wrong? I never said you don't need training or to learn. I'm saying that even with training some people will suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 11:11 AM
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Don't sweat she put Jared Leto in average too. I'm going to assume these people don't go outside and rate everyone on a scale of movie stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:02 AM
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Well I disagree but there's also a reasonable amount of time to take into account. If it's going to take you years to get to a point that takes others weeks then it's probably not the job for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 04:04 PM
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Are you really suggesting everyone picks up every skill at the same speed? Does everyone pass their driving test after the exact same number of driving lessons?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:57 PM
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I disagree completely. People have different skills and people tend to be drawn to that which they are best at. I have no rhythm, I doubt I could ever get good at an instrument. I could play an instrument poorly if I put in the work but I'd never be good. This is the same with all skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:14 PM
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No I'm saying people are better at different tasks and have different personalities that either do or don't fit different tasks. Everyone doesn't have the personality, temperament or intelligence to be anything. People are suited to different jobs and tasks. This includes sales as it includes every other job from maths teacher to personal trainer to stand up comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:00 PM
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And what happens to the sales people who don't sell?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:35 PM
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https://abcnews.go.com/WN/reverse-gender-gap-study-young-childless-women-earn/story?id=11538401 https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/ https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds It's also covered well in the book "the boy crisis" which is well worth a read. Counter point though on the never married part. Men who make more money are more desirable thus are more likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:26 AM
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I think you have a real survivorship bias here. You're looking at the successful people then saying that anyone can do it while ignoring everyone else who tried and failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 11:14 AM
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So everyone who does the courses can be just as good as you at sales? Is everyone who you do sales with closing the same amount of deals because they're all equally qualified?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:17 AM
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Are you implying that I think I'm great at sales? No I was average at best and I hated it and just did it as work while I studied. The people who are good at it are normally sociopaths with drug issues. Sales is the fucking worst. That doesn't mean there's not a hierarchy of talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:14 AM
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More shit than I can remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:11 AM
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Well then we disagree. I don't think it can be taught because sales in my experience isn't running a script, you have to be yourself. My evidence for this is how the sales system works which is people either can or can't do it. Your evidence seems to be that you believe in some kind of charisma blank slateism where anyone can be the best with some training. edit People need a temperament for it - like being happy to not take ‘no’ for an answer What you're talking about here is really trait neuro…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 10:04 AM
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No. Women out earn men under 30 and never married women out earn never married men. The wage gap is really between fathers and mothers for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:53 AM
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Well then you should start a sales company with your new method of anyone can be amazing with the right training because good sales people are scarce but apparently you can just forge them with ease. You'll have an amazing sales force in no time and be making millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:32 AM
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No, they dropped out because they made no sales and sales jobs are commission based. The way you can tell if you can or can't do sales is if you can or can't make money doing it. If you can't made money then you can't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:21 AM
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That's incorrect. Peoples aptitude or intelligence as "G" is what defines if they are good or bad at mental tasks. It doesn't matter how good your teacher is some people will never be able to be even mediocre. Every boy wants to be funny but most aren't. It's just a talent some people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 09:16 AM
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Well I also did sales and the vast majority of people dropped out of it because they made no sales despite all going though the same training. The thing with sales is you can go on all the stupid courses you like but some people are closers and some people are not. you can nurture natural talent but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:51 AM
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It's like any skill. Like any skill some people have talent and some people don't. I'm not saying you can't get better i'm saying that you'll always suck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 08:48 AM
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Anyone who's worked in sales disagrees with you. Some people are great at it and some people are terrible. Doesn't matter how much time they're there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:17 AM
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You could simply say that men prefer approachable women over unapproachable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:47 AM
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https://youtu.be/yauS_XKlqwM Because Patrice is so much funnier than text.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 07:43 AM
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Ahahaha well good on you for trying. I remember trying to watch the young turks and just giving up after 15 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:38 PM
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Maybe have a go at just listening to his stuff rather a YouTubers hot takes. The reason why I read FDS, incel forums and TRP is so I understand they're actual augments rather than the strawmen I see people talking about on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:36 PM
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I think it's very easy to snippit things he said and make it look like he's saying incel things. Like the "forced monogamy" thing. It was pushed that he was suggesting government mandated waifus for incels when what he actually said was that cheating, spinning plates etc should be discouraged socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:20 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ntscbc/new_data_from_the_telegraph_indicate_that_levels/ That study is very eye opening. 55% of men graduating being celibate and like you said men at uni aren't fat and they are relatively smart and hard working if they're graduating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:17 PM
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has he recovered from his uh, drug problems? More or less, yeah. It was pretty fucking stupid of him but I suppose you could say that for everyone prescribed Bezos on opiates. My problem with JP is he's giving some advise that's partly universal and kinda common sense and other advise which is really 20 years out of date. I feel like the people who take everything he says as gospel are going to end up very disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:14 PM
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I've looked extensively. I've listening to a huge amount of his discussions and I've been on redpill/incel forums for years. He's talking to incels about how not to be black pilled incels and how they should grow the hell up, stop hating women and stop being bitter and resentful. You've got it just the exact wrong way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:30 PM
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I'd be very surprised if you could find anyone who went from blue pill to black pill by listening to JP in fact I'd say you'd find the exact opposite happening. I think most people attracted to JP are depressed men who have given up and are black pilled on life in a very nihilistic sense. They come out of that and become blue pilled because of JP and believe that if they just work hard life will be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:25 PM
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You know the red pill hate him right? He's super pro marriage, commitment, hates any form of "plate spinning" and as the video I posted shows he thinks that if women don't like you it's your fault and you need to fix yourself. By black pill I assume you mean lookism? Again he doesn't argue for that he says that women are attracted to responsible men and to work on yourself and not worry about black pill science. Clean you room means if your life is a mess to concentrate on the parts you can cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:17 PM
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I don't follow that mixed metaphor at all. The horse to water metaphor is saying you can show people the path to success but you can't make them take it. What's JP doing? drowning them in the path?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:10 PM
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You can be imprisoned in canada and the uk. I've listening to him quite a lot and the closest thing I can think of to what you're saying was him talking about how people use this as some form of performance and he wouldn't engage with them but that he'd never come across that in his personal or professional life. I think JP has a lot of flawed arguments but a lot of what published about him is just hyperbole. I think the closest thing he is to "red pilling" is how much he's redpilled people on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:04 PM
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Are you referring to him not agreeing with that being a law? He's stated multiple times that when ever a student has asked him to use different pronouns that he's been happy to oblige, he's simply not willing to accept that the law should have anything to do with compelling people to do so under threat of imprisonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:53 PM
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What views are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:49 PM
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I think most people who hate JP are basing their opinion on things they're read he's said rather than listing to his actual discussions. He's really moderate and liberal on almost everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:46 PM
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There's a good FDS video about this with jordan peterson and a guy from the room mates podcast. https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/qzzvnz/red_pill_favourite_jordan_peterson_doesnt_agree/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=PurplePillDebate&utm_content=t3_r7zgv7
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:22 AM
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I base it over a few numbers. Japan and Korea who are slightly ahead of the west on this have this number and if you look at rates of sexlessness in the west skyrocketing, drop off in marriage rates and university graduates being majority Virgins. I'm a man in my mid 30s and you're right about my generation. We didn't grow up with Internet dating, our general dating outlook was broadly positive. I'm not talking about us I'm talking about the men who in their 20s and grew up much more Internet na…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:37 AM
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I'm not sure about this. Women aren't just going to accept men that are lower status they they are and give up on hypergamy just because they're 40. I think these 2 articles are pretty good. https://quillette.com/2021/06/28/mate-selection-for-modernity/ https://abc7.com/cornell-university-researchers-blame-the-decline-of-us-marriages-on-a-shortage-economically-attractive-men-for-unmarried-women-to-marry/5528921/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 02:49 PM
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Not talking about incels - talking the guys who are 4s - 6s (huge % of the population). There are plenty of guys who are below 8s making big money - programming, engineering, medical, you name it. Not having a woman doesn't mean you might as well be homeless You can't have a system where women are only dating the top 20% of men until they're 40 and not accept that's going to mean a huge % of the population is going to be incel (i don't mean the guys who post on incel forums). I'm not saying they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:26 PM
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"I need a stable guy who won't cheat on me so I can have a well-adjusted child" incels are not stable people. They're also unlikely to be earning much money, not because they're unintelligent but what's the point in money when you live alone? Male thirst is insane. Imagine going through your 20s, 30s, never getting any action despite trying so hard, then suddenly at 40 you have women hitting you up. You know you're getting washed up pussy, but the alternative is dying without ever experiencing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:42 AM
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I don't see how that adds up with the level of incels this is creating (approx. 25% of men). They're not going to want to marry these guys and so many men understand that it's not worth working yourself to death until your mid 30s in the hope of getting a crumb of pussy. I think the billy beta train is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:26 AM
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This makes me think of the /antiwork sub. If a high school dropout with 0 work experience who thinks "It's not worth working for less than 100k a year because that's the only amount of money I consider worth working for" Then they are delusional. The issue is that 80% of women want 20% of the men and that means 60% of women are going to be shit out of luck (at least in terms of commitment).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:36 AM
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My experience of dating and being tall (just over 6'4) is that a minority of girls will be into you but most girls don't really care. Is it easier to date as a tall man? Yeah, you just go after the girls who show an interest in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:29 AM
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I hate FDS but it's good to know your opponents argument at least as well as they do. So what are they right about? They're right that women don't need men for money. Women have their own money so if all your bringing to the relationship is your income and you expect her to do all the typically female chores then that's not a good exchange. They're right in not being a simp or a pickme. Fucking a guy is not going to get you commitment just like giving a women free shit is not going to get her to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:54 AM
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If you're matching with these guys then so are loads of other women. You asking "why do men with loads of options make so many demands?" The answer is because they have options. If you want men who are nicer match with less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:35 AM
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It describes the men who women want to have sex with. Why? Because the other men are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:48 AM
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Because so many are part of FDS. Half of conversations I have on here end up being with an FDS poster. The topics I tend to join in with are about men and women having different problems. The shitty people on here love to act like the opposite sex has no problems while their sex is under the boot their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:31 PM
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You're probably the closet to a reasonable women this sub has to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:26 PM
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I'm saying that it's nice to have the option. That's it the option. I don't have that belief. It doesn't make sense because if they did then stright people would be having the same amount of casual sex as gay men. Sorry its early here. That's still not a huge swing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 08:00 AM
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61 vs 62 percent is negligible and a one night stand not being as enjoyable as you hoped is not a gendered issue. I don't like one night stands because I never found them enjoyable. I'm still happy that when I wanted a one night stand I could have one which is not the case for the vast majority of of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:25 AM
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What this looks like to me is that casual sex is often enjoyable for women and that's why they engage. It's simply a matter of selecting the right men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:12 AM
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How much is not a lot? Women view 80% of men as below average in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 05:38 PM
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Wearing leggings is not sexualizing myself. I wear leggings at home Is not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:12 PM
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"it's not sexual because I wear it at home" isn't an argument because that's where people wear the least amount of clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:33 PM
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If you weigh up all the benefits of being single... Total independence You're also totally on your own. Any problems they're on you. Can do what you want when you want Can fuck who you want when you want to Not just that, you can enjoy flirting, dating and discovering chemistry with new people. There's always a new story around the corner. You can do what you have time for and can afford and you can only sleep with people who want to sleep with you. You're really limited by time/money and attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 09:25 AM
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People walk around their houses naked/ in their underwear too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:50 AM
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There is no evidence for the statement that the majority of women like casual sex. There is, however, evidence for the statement that women do not orgasm nearly at the same rate as men in heterosexual encounters. And that's evidence they take no joy in them? So, men who like casual sex wish they had the problem that women who like casual sex have. I’ll agree with that, but it’s a very narrow statement given the size of the group of women. What percentage of women have ever had casual sex? The ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:50 PM
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OK but you're not all women. Your personal traits doesn't change a man's market value and his peak market value is in his 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:33 PM
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It depends on the situation and yes it's also a problem without marriage. I'd say owning property together is as big of a commitment as marriage in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:32 PM
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Evicted yes but the house is jointly owned and you can't sell it from under them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:55 PM
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Women find money and status attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:53 PM
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Is that not part of a decent relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:50 PM
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I don't think it works this way here. You divide both community property and debts. The issue is that the wife and children will not be forced from their home as they have friends/school etc so there's no selling. People who are into traditional gender roles still can pursue them. Nothing really stops them besides financial risks and these can be negotiated with prenups. Prenups are meaningless for most people as they're for what you had going into the marriage not what you accrued during it. bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 01:00 PM
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It's the same in the UK but you can't sell the house from under her and you continue to be obligated to pay the mortgage. This effectively ruins you. Well, it seems that egalitarian format is safer for both partners. Neither risks losing half of what they got while their partner was sitting at home and neither risks getting divorced and having no proper work experience. It does but it comes with its own set of problems. A lot of men are happy to take on extra work to provide and a lot of women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:45 AM
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sounds like the sweet spot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:19 AM
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Like i said "sweet spot".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:15 AM
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Those women are probably the ones that are getting something out of it; every study conducted on this topic proves the orgasm gap so it’s not my opinion that women are leaving the majority of sexual encounters unfulfilled. I understand that the majority of women who like casual sex are the women who like casual sex. The issue is that men who like casual sex don't have the option while women do. Like I said "problems men wish they had." A starving person would accept a meal they wouldn’t pick out…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:18 AM
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Kids are when it becomes really apparent. I don't see the reason for marriage without kids so I always look at marriages as with children. A bread winner situation makes no sense without kids as looking after a house without kids isn't work but looking after children is a full time job. I think a lot of trad relationships are a women earning 40k marries a guy earning 70k both doing a 40 hour week. They have a kid and the decide he can work an extra 20 hours and she can stay home and they'll have…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 10:10 AM
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Sure, but there's a middle ground to be had there. Men aren't going to get married into traditional breadwinner/care giver relationships with the no fault divorce system as means they lose everything even if they do nothing wrong. You can do what you and I have done and get into egalitarian relationships but in many ways all that means is that you're forced to stay together because neither of you can afford a divorce without a massive drop in living standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 08:43 AM
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Sure it is. Men's looks remain stable but as men's status increases over all attractiveness increases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:51 AM
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Well a 70% divorce rate obviously isn't great. We've talked about this before and I think we agreed that the issue is creating a system where both sexes want to be in a relationship. The issue at the moment in the west is that's not true for a lot of people. Also you pointed out that it's even worse in Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:41 AM
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Well changes are always going to upset some people. The sweet spot is the point where most people are happy. The current decline in the west is infinite freedom and infinite misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 07:20 AM
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Sounds like Russia has hit the dating sweet spot that comes just before the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:49 AM
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Get surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 06:38 AM
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