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| 3 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?My friends don't have reddit but its basically girls driving the conversation and him giving short or no responses. It's very clear there's no interest on his end unless he wants top and will message one randomly. I wish every guy had at least one chad friend so they could see how its truly a zero sum game. Fortunately/unfortunately for me I have at least 3 or 4 lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?To be fair they probably have SOME attractive quality about them. Men just need one or two attractive qualities to be into someone. Those woman seem batshit crazy. Idk if all of them act that way though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:48 AM |
| 4 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?Which honestly just sets them up for being used and disappointed. There are quite a few wonderful hot guys, but said guys usually aren’t interested in someone who doesn’t respect herself. So that just leaves the douches If they have self-esteem issues then why not go for the less attractive guys? They're setting themselves up like you said. It shows that they are vain and we shouldn't give them any sympathy. I used to have empathy for them until they lowered my self esteem lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 04:05 AM |
| 10 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?I mean I agree but... I guess a lot of woman have low self-esteem then lol They are all definitely douchebags however some of them are very bright so I wouldn't say idiots. Also to be clear, they're not mean to these woman, they just don't put any effort into conversing/getting to know them. It just shows the power of physical/status attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/21 01:27 AM |
| 12 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?The ones that approach without them initiating are typically less attractive. If they're initiating, the women are very attractive. OLD is like shooting fish in a barrel. To see the reality of casual sex, you need friends across a spectrum of beauty. Casual is truly a zero sum game for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About Men*Shitty = majority of men. Not shitty = Chad/ top 20% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:46 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About MenIts not lying its just not saying the everything. I don't like it either but its the only way men can have sex. Ideally men would also like to have something with the girl as well but that's even rarer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?Sorry, my parent comment was about some women simping for my friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?I referring to the sad women in my friends DM's | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:53 PM |
| 2 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?It could be but if you're a woman there are other more likely reasons for being single. I'm sure these women falsely assume that by simping, eventually my friends would fall for them. This is the same assumption beta niceguys make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:45 PM |
| 15 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?Usually simping is one-way. I haven't seen it reciprocated especially in the examples with my friends. They were clearly out of these girls leagues but they simping hard for him. Generally I would simp for her if she simped for me but that's not how it works irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:37 PM |
| 23 | Are there any extremely attractive men here who have no money/status or an unattractive personality?I would like to see that actually. There was guy on another site I frequent (girlsaskguys) who was a stereotypical chad (tall, muscular, well endowed, masculine face) and he occasionally posted tinder convos and censored screenshots of girls with his name written in lipstick on their tits/ass. He also made jokes about how many of the women he hooked up with had "no hookups" in their profiles. A few of my best friends are chads. The way woman treat them is like night and day. They are also very m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About MenOption 2 would lead to 40 year old virgins. If the minority of men can lose their virginity while the majority or woman have access, a lot of men will be frustrated. This way levels the playing field. You don't have to totally fake it if your hot enough. Just be ambiguous about what you both "are". I don't like it either but this is the only way so many men can get experience with woman. Ideally we could just be honest and strike out or get what we both want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 09:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: What Don't You Understand About MenOther woman have commented that they just care for the hottest guy in casual. Its all about looks for casual. Many woman think differently than you do. My experience going out is the same dudes get laid while average guys go home alone. If average men had similar access to casual it would lose its value. After 4 ONS and an STD scare they'll pretty much stop pursuing that endeavor and look for something serious. Unfortunately most men don't have access to this because woman are picky with casual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 08:50 PM |
| 2 | When are women racking up these huge n counts?Ok fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 08:30 PM |
| 8 | When are women racking up these huge n counts?This is a pretty typical experiment portraying the average American woman. Now compare that to the average guy. No hot french tutor sex, no hoe phase and countless nights striking out at the club. He meets Jenny in her mid-to-late twenties when she has settled down but he has't had half the experience that she has. There is a huge privilege here and that difference creates resentment for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Is LooksMaxing a dead end for Men ?That's a self defeating trap you don't want to fall into. Looksmaxxing in terms of working out, wearing nice fitting clothes and developing frame are essential. None of that will make the same difference as height/facial structure. This doesn't mean you dont do the above, you can still raise your value a few points but it will never be the level of 6'3 Chad. Follow the redpill and stop listening to woman blow smoke up your a** or blackpill self defeatists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?Broadly, men don't deny the importance of physical attraction. The narrative isn't looking for someone kind and considerate its hot then everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:03 AM |
| 0 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?If men were picky about a woman the way woman are to men, genetic predisposition to certain characteristics would be a huge detriment to physical attraction. Imagine if guys cared about a woman's thigh gap like woman do men's height. It has to be at least X inches wide. This is the reality for a lot of men through no fault of their own. For unattractive woman reading this, there is a path to being attractive. Unless you have some medical conditions preventing you from eating healthy, there are w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 06:00 AM |
| 3 | Hold up...isnt EVERYONE Hypergamous?Yea we all are. The difference is men don't virtue signal or say otherwise. Every human being on the planet knows what men want. Realizing the fact that woman are just like men but with more leverage, will help us attack the problem better. The results are less empathy for woman who get burned for trying for more than their market value and honesty about the biological arms race that creates attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 01:32 AM |
| 4 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.Men aren't going after just teens "biologically" as you said. Am I missing something here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/21 12:24 AM |
| 3 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.We should not "shame" men for wanting to have sex with beautiful teen girls because it is just biological. Yet this same logic is not given for women, because according to ONE okcupid study about online dating data, women only go for the top 20% of men. Men on here say this is biological for women because women are naturally hypergamous. If they only wanted to have sex with beautiful teen girls that would be a problem for a lot of women. Men don't only want that, the bar for female beauty is on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:57 PM |
| 7 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.The threshold for beauty is just lower for guys. Its like taking quantum mechanics at Cal tech vs Birmingham Alabama community college, its the same subject matter but a totally different level of difficulty. All you have to do is not be overweight. In fact, if most men don't find you attractive, you're likely also missing calls from your Doctor. Men are graded on things like height which are genetic traits. Imagine if men started caring about a woman's thigh gap. "If her gap touches I don't wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:34 PM |
| 5 | As a man you have the privilege of compensating with other attributes other than looks, and dating attractive women. While women can't really do the same.only wanting the "top 20%" of men vs men wanting the majority (not just top 20%) of women. I'm sure you can spot the difference. The threshold for beauty is just lower for guys. Its like taking quantum mechanics at Cal tech vs Birmingham Alabama community college, its the same subject matter but a totally different level of difficulty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/21 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromWhats ever so often? Every few years? Most women who are at least average have no problem scratching that itch. All the women I have dated have had a "hoe phase" the same is not true for guys. Women don't realize how few partners we actually have had probably because its so far removed from their reality. A part of me suspects infidelity is sometimes related to this. The men who didn't experience this prioritize it later in life. This is wrong but that's all the more reason to get it out of your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromSo honestly this complaint only makes sense to me when it’s coming from men who have never had casual sex because they can’t. When it’s coming from men who do have or have had causal sex. It really makes no sense. Do you really think most guys are having casual flings? Its a very small minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 01:35 AM |
| 1 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromValue as in sexually attractive, which means a lot. Imagine being with someone who doesn't lust you. Im sure women with partners suffering from ED could sympathize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromIf the guy was just someone I met at a bar, however, and felt he was stupid or we didn't get each other's humour at all or whatever, but he was physically my type and I was looking for casual sex, well, I couldn't give a shit how it turned out, could I? I could just do whatever, it wouldn't matter because we weren't compatible anyway. I wouldn't feel any incentive to work for something good with him or care how he felt about me. How do guys become this guy? I can be good and sweet all day but I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromIts reasonable if we all had the same access to casual sex. Average men don't, most women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/20 12:36 AM |
| 3 | Genuinely curious if women can understand where men are coming fromFor many people, sex can be just about getting off. In which case, all they want is a hot body to get off with. But then in other situations, when they're in a relationship, sex becomes about more than that. Men and women both have needs and they shouldn't be punished for it. I get what your saying but as someone whose been told their "a great dude" and will make a girl "so happy one day" this is a downer. I have sexual needs as well but I understand that I'm not the up to high standard in terms… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/20 11:48 PM |
| 1 | What a girl saying she initially thought I was a player taught me.In the example we are assuming there is an initial attraction (or else they wouldn't even be dating). To be clear, we are talking about when you start dating someone and there is excitement about the potential before a rejection. That sort of rejection is tough to deal with repeatedly and men have this far more than women as they are typically the pursuer. Also again, the 1/30 isn't necessarily "the one". You can be compatible with any number of people. I'm also like your friend in that I don't … | /r/seduction | 15/10/20 06:43 PM |
| 1 | What a girl saying she initially thought I was a player taught me.Because they found other things out that they really liked about you. Nobody is perfect so anyone you're with will find things they don't like about you. It's about the things they do like that makes it something special to stick around for. The longer their around the more they get to know who you are. It is about numbers to an extent because you want to optimize and efficiently find someone your're compatible with. With your way the guy gets brushed aside exponentially more, which effects his … | /r/seduction | 15/10/20 06:24 PM |
| 1 | What a girl saying she initially thought I was a player taught me.Yea it could be but by not texting she doesn't find out those things. Instead she might think about what your doing and that builds tension in her head. The next time you see each other you have some emotion to work with. Your advice is good for once you're in a relationship but for the dating phase it doesn't work with most women. The man has to create spark otherwise she'll lose interest. I know you're coming from a good place with your advice but its really not effective and at the end of the… | /r/seduction | 15/10/20 06:06 PM |
| 1 | What a girl saying she initially thought I was a player taught me.Experience. Seriously its like night and day. As a guy you can try both methods and see which one gives you positive results, that's how most guys learn this stuff. Look its not a one size fits all but over a large population of attractive women, when you're too into them they lose interest. Chemistry and connection is partly in people's control and partly inherent. Most interactions are driven by the man and as such you can drive where the vibe goes. There's definitely a mutual agreement from b… | /r/seduction | 15/10/20 05:47 PM |
| 10 | What a girl saying she initially thought I was a player taught me.Again, more useless advice from r/seduction. Nah the same exact thing happened to me in my last LTR. She was attracted to the player persona then as she got to know me her feelings became much deeper. If she likes you a lot and your not texting her all the time it creates tension in her mind. I learned this the hard why after years of spilling my heart so I know it works. | /r/seduction | 15/10/20 05:00 AM |
| 1 | What are some real ways men can feel they have greater success with women that doesn't involve women changing?By definition they aren't because they dont have that experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/20 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Question regarding preference of sexual access to top tier men over likelihood to receive commitmentPlenty people (I'd say most people, probably) put no thought into what they want out of a) or b). They just live life and take what comes. Taking life as it comes results in certain trends. It's not so weird, just categorized in a way you may not have thought of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/20 03:16 AM |
| 2 | Question regarding preference of sexual access to top tier men over likelihood to receive commitmentWomen aren’t trying to get “sexual access” to top tier men, solipsism. Top tier men have women trying to gain access to their commitment, and maybe a mutually meaningless fuck here and there. Most people are not cognizant of the implications of their choices. They just live life like you said. But we can gather trends from human behavior. For example, in some places certain diets /environments are more conducive to a longer life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Question regarding preference of sexual access to top tier men over likelihood to receive commitmentI think you're missing the fact that the "groups" are very fluid. People move into and out of groups a and b. For group b there's no incentive to denounce the rights of a. It's akin to relegating oneself to a set path. Everyone wants the freedom to choose. The fact that there are good and bad choices makes no difference but the ability to choose them is important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 10:48 PM |
| 1 | A lot of men can't "be themselves" as women often offer as advice to datingPeople become compatible with them. A good lay and personality will fit the criteria for the average women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 09:19 PM |
| 1 | What is so wrong with being a gold digger?Yes I see that on here as well. I think its easy to say how things should be but its pointless and subjective. In the end my harmony might not be his or hers. There will always be some folks disenfranchised. What I took from redpill is that this is the system in place, do what you will but these are the constructs that you live in. In that sense it was very eye opening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 09:10 PM |
| 2 | What is so wrong with being a gold digger?Yea I agree, I think that's the whole point. Red pill being the truth while blue pill is the illusion if we go off the matrix definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 09:00 PM |
| 1 | What is so wrong with being a gold digger?The hot women they want don’t sleep with them they sleep with men with money or hot guys. An attractive woman’s body is a resource, and equivalent to a man’s wealth. It’s a trade. An average man cannot give his body it is literally worthless to a woman That sounds like red pill to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 08:24 PM |
| 1 | What is so wrong with being a gold digger?want Nothing you said is wrong. One might mistake you for a redpiller | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 08:16 PM |
| 1 | The reason a high N count is impressive in men, but not so much in women:Everyone has their judgments on these things but for a LTR its a red flag when a girl has had a lot of partners. I cant speak for everyone but a couple LTR are better than a bunch of casual flings as it shows where her values are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 08:10 PM |
| 0 | A lot of men can't "be themselves" as women often offer as advice to datingIt took a lot of time and effort, but I feel it was worth it in the end. I can understand if you would want to take a different approach, because this one sure had some unpleasant points. Agreed that both have to be a bit fake initially. However men have to create a persona to entice their partner otherwise it doesn't get past the first date. Most attractive women are looking for something unique and have a lot of options. Absolutely women also are not being their true selves but the effort is m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 06:56 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men can't "be themselves" as women often offer as advice to datingWomen would like men to stop being bad monkeys. They can spot the desperation behind it. The good monkeys pass as they fooled you enough to think they are truly the way they appear to be. The need for an outgoing performative persona is real, you will rarely find a first date in which a man is themselves. Not that I think women are totally themselves in a first date, but men much more so. I tried "being myself" enough times, being told time and time again that "there was no spark". Well of cours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/20 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Men judge women on their N-count because women judge men on their sexual prowessA lot of them are likely lying and some are probably like you said being aggressive. Contrary to what is always spouted here, its not just physical traits that make a guy have a high smv, social status is also very important. The fact that he had a lot of options tells you everything I've been explaining, he didn't care about her and just wanted a threesome. To be clear, I don't condone his behavior, he seems like a child. But I also look at the girl as naive. The moment he asks for a threesome … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Men judge women on their N-count because women judge men on their sexual prowessNot dismissing the data that I haven't seen. I trust that you wouldn't make it up, and I'm sure some guys pressured girls into threesomes. It's important to distinguish the fact that most guys don't have that ability (maybe if they did it would be much worse) but many women do. The ability for a women to have threesome is greater than a mans. If a man is pressuring a girl for a threesome he obviously doesn't like her that much, how could you force someone you really cared about to do it? He's li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 08:29 PM |
| 1 | As a woman. What's your opinion on hypergamy?More confident, yes. Happier? I wouldn't say so. Ignorance is bliss | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 06:41 PM |
| 1 | As a woman. What's your opinion on hypergamy?Very true. But the thing about that is, the goal posts change. I improved myself a lot to the point that who I find attractive has completely changed. When I was average, I found the avg girl attractive but I had less success. Now I can easily get the same average girl but I have all these criteria because of the effort I put into myself. In the end, I can get a better quality match in looks and personality but because of the efforts I've put into myself, I want something even more. Such is life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 06:38 PM |
| 1 | As a woman. What's your opinion on hypergamy?But if you’re saying there’s some geographic location that hoards hot men (which seems racist and incorrect) you’re def talking about where I live where men who grow up here are usually over 6 feet and have broad shoulders. So either way. Its really the delta between the top tier and average, thats the topic of concern. 20% of each sex is attractive but due to the smv, 50% of the women have access to 20% of the men. That leaves another 50% of women for 80% of the men. Does that make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 06:32 PM |
| 1 | As a woman. What's your opinion on hypergamy?Ah I've found the privileged opposite sex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 06:26 PM |
| -1 | We should view men who pump and dump and women who finesse men for money the same wayDepends on your sex and your goal. But yea have at it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 06:24 PM |
| 20 | We should view men who pump and dump and women who finesse men for money the same wayMorality is subjective and doesn't matter. If Chad keeps getting it other people will mimic. Just passing judgement is pointless, the goal should be to adapt to the system in place not try to change the system because its immoral (waste of time) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Men judge women on their N-count because women judge men on their sexual prowessI have seen plenty reddit posts from women who were pressured into having a threesome they didn't want. Maybe some are fake but I doubt they all are. In my own experience, once I was organising a threesome with a guy. He had found another girl off tinder and he gave me her snapchat so I could talk to her first before we met up. She confessed to me that she didn't want a threesome, she was straight and it wasn't what she was into. She really liked the guy though and he'd really been pushing the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 05:31 PM |
| 0 | Is It Disrespectful To Make "Boyfriend Material" Men Wait?Its fair that she doesn't put out on the first date. You're right that a man needs to adjust his expectations with respectable women. Its not about expecting sex from anyone or getting mad at them. Everyone has a right to select who they wish to be with and attractive women have a plethora of options to choose from. She should do whatever she likes for her own good. Guys should do what's in their best interest as well. There are attractive women who haven't been through the "wisdom" or experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/20 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Is It Disrespectful To Make "Boyfriend Material" Men Wait?You've got to be kidding... I love you? Yeah that's way to far. Neither party even knows if there's sexual chemistry yet. Nothing wrong with being reserved for who women choose to have sex with. The behavior of those guys will just be mimic'ed which is kind of what trp is about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/20 11:57 PM |
| 1 | Is It Disrespectful To Make "Boyfriend Material" Men Wait?Fair enough but if she's selfless with other guys then this was never going to workout. She should date the other guy or someone like him since that tickles her fancy. Its not fair for either party for her to pick the "backup" in the long run | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/20 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Men judge women on their N-count because women judge men on their sexual prowessNot as rare as you'd think. That literally described the last couple of girls I was with to a T. Talk to most guys dating and its almost like a right of passage for women in their 20's to at least try a threesome, lesbian fling, different ethnicity or someone with a certain status. BTW, in most of these instances, it was them wanting to try, not being pressured. To hear them describe it was like "Yeah everyone was talking about the new iphone so I just wanted to try it". They did describe other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/20 10:59 PM |
| 5 | Here's the god honest way to stop being needy and have girls chasing youReally well written and forthcoming OP. I wonder what guys whose hobbies are filled with other dudes do? | /r/seduction | 25/09/20 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?You mean don't ask the women I date? I never do but it comes up when you get close with someone. I appreciate your perspective, the bit about "just sex" vs sex with someone you care about was eye opening even though its very obvious now that I think about it. With dating though its different because the goal is a LTR vs a casual encounter. When I hear about the one night stands I care less than the guys she's dated if that makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/20 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Its not a problem if that's just how she is. But if she didn't wait with other guys its just a sign that she's not that into me. Maybe she likes my personality or whatever but the chemistry isn't as strong as those other guys. At that point I need to emotionally detach from the situation as the pinnacle for that relationship has diminished in potential. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/20 06:40 PM |
| -1 | For genuine nice guys and noobiesThe nicer, sweet, considerate, loving, and sincerer a guy is the more likely he is to get walked on, treated as disposable and invaluable to a girl. I know from experience. 10 years relationship. I’m currently going through it. I have a friend whom I treat with all the above and respect in every aspect. she has failed to realize how good I am to her and now she’s throwing me away like a piece of trash. She has decided to move away from me. Throw everything we have away. This is not a isolated pr… | /r/seduction | 24/09/20 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?To me its just simply the fact that the other guy was more sexually desirable to her or pushed the right buttons. Because I've been that guy for other women, I know how important sexual attraction is and ultimately I think everyone should be with someone they really desire or their LTR will suffer. I think you misunderstood, I can see why a women would wait. Having sex with someone that you don't know is committed to you can be emotionally taxing, to say the least. I don't think you read the res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/20 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Those girls didn't all become my gf but the ones I wanted to have a relationship with, did. That's why when I become the other guy, waiting for sex, I feel like I'm not truly desired. This happened to recent girl I dated which is why I'm so interested in another's perspective on the matter. We had great chemistry, spent hours just talking and were really honest about everything. She let me know with the previous guy she dated they got physical pretty early. It could be like you said, she really … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/20 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Yeah I meant that’s what we’ve been discussing for many comments. If men won’t believe women when they explain it and just say “that doesn’t make sense because I don’t like it and men don’t think that way” I can’t help. Yeah I can understand the female perspective on this because I a lot of guys actually get emotionally attached with sex as well. A one time thing maybe not but if most guys are having regular sex with someone, there's likely some emotional attachment there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/20 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Yea I see that perspective now. If she doesn't like a guy having sex is not a big deal. If she likes him then having sex might lead to a stronger attachment which will hurt her if there's no commitment. The reaction from me being the guy that has to wait is that she just wasn't as into me as the guy she gave it up earlier for. I'll be honest, its tough to wrap my brain around this but its interesting how people view things so differently. Your perspective makes me consider the waiting as her pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/20 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?And this is kinda frustrating here, since I literally just listed a bunch of other ways men get into much much riskier situations-- why are you dismissing literally everything else I said and reducing that all to exactly a DUI? I mentioned that men make themselves more at risk for assault, fights, murder, drugs, violence, and accidents (by "showing off" with dangerous stunts)-- the risks of those things are heightened for men when they... go to sketchy parties to get laid, or show off to get lai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/20 05:10 AM |
| 1 | CMV- Most dating advice in this sub and other subs are more depressing and anxiety inducing than helpful to men and they should seek answers somewhere else.I think the issue is the lack of feeling "genuine" by applying the red pill logic. I used trp logic in dating when I was younger and it drastically improved my opportunities. I applied my own personality but the general tenants were effective. Eventually I found someone I really liked and we fell in love. After your're really close with someone all the "tactics" go out the window, your character comes out. I used it as a tool for more opportunities but its not the end all be all, you can still f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/20 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Whereas if a women doesn't care about someone or knows there's no future, having sex with them makes sense? That's what it's there for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/20 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?So yeah, sorry, I just can't agree at all that women are taking bigger risks than men in any way, because that's just not reflected in any data. Sorry I mis-stated. I mean't the magnitude for risk is far greater for women than for men. Objectively, a DUI is not as severe as rape right? But in the example of going to a risky venue because a hot guy/girl is there, the risk is greater for the female imo. I can see your point that a guy would engage in riskier behavior once at that said venue (and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/20 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Yes, I see what your're saying and I agree. Within a subset of activities, men would take greater risk on avg than women. Critically, the men are choosing those risk whereas for women its often outside of her control once she makes the initial decision to go to that party. I think one can argue that the magnitude of the risk is far greater than for women (rape vs. DUI) I think its also important to note that its a spectrum right? So while some men would choose to partake in riskier endeavors oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/20 06:19 PM |
| 6 | The whole I’m ready to settle down memeI think you're spot on. I would add that typically men have more options the older they get so in a sense they become that youthful party girl at a later age (in terms of opportunities) For those men they are only just then finding out what they want, they weren't able to in their early twenties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/20 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Right, so those other factors play a role in deciding who to sleep with. The attraction factor is more important emotionally as it convey's sexual attraction. Wanting kids, politics, and religion are all very important in a life partner but they have nothing to do with attraction. I know plenty of women that would make great mothers and have the same political leaning but the sexual attraction is not strong so it wouldn't work. Men want to be with someone who is attracted to them sexually. When … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/20 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?The two overlap don't they? You have to be attracted to someone to consider a relationship with them right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/20 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?So your perspective is waiting for sex because you really care about them and want to develop commitment. Whereas if a women doesn't care about someone or knows there's no future, having sex with them makes sense? I phrased it as a question as that's what the parent comment insinuated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?I think you need to come up with an example. I'm trying to see your perspective but I can't think of anything that would convey your attraction to someone in that way. Guy A was so sexually attractive that things got hot and heavy on the second date. Guy B has been on date for months without sex. How do you convey to guy B that he is as or more attractive to you then guy A? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Very true, better to work on the things you can control and not worry about the one's you cannot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?That's true. I guess we should just discuss the women for whom sex is intimate for as the women who take it more casually would have sex with both guys in this example? With that in mind, I cant think of anyone that wouldn't have sex in their top 5 important aspects of a relationship. That goes for men and women. If she told me she got physical with someone very early, meanwhile I'm a couple months in without getting there...to me that's a sign she doesn't feel as attracted to me (perfectly fine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 10:12 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?It was a one off snarky comment. Let me rephrase. It's how drug dealers get so much pussy. "But at least this is a plausible example that applies to some women (and some men also— like dudes don’t do stupid dangerous shit when they see a hot gal)" So from this I gather that people generally engage is riskier behavior for someone their into. But the risks are greater for women right? Maybe I misunderstood but for men to do it, it's less of a risk than for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 09:58 PM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Why do so many men marry specific women despite red flags?Same here man. I can empathize with women in those situations. Its tough to balance those traits you need and try to project what kind of life/wife she makes. As someone with a lot of family who are woman in their 30's, I appreciate it when others are considerate in this regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?I think that's why you see the obsession with improving looks/status by the men here. It seems like you're in agreement with their conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Men and women both agree that sex is a big part of any relationship. If a man's in a situation were he isn't having sex with someone he likes but he knows she's hooked up with other dudes without waiting, he's just going to feel like shes not that into him. Sex is very intimate, for a women to share that with another is telling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 08:32 PM |
| 6 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?So your perspective is waiting for sex because you really care about them and want to develop commitment. Whereas if a women doesn't care about someone or knows there's no future, having sex with them makes sense? Seems a bit odd as sex is very intimate and can create emotional attachment on its own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Thats definitely true but the post was more about the inconsistencies. If one was to hold off sex for the above reasons, that seems very reasonable. But thats not always the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 07:54 PM |
| 0 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?I can’t believe this honestly. When I was growing up everyone took this stuff for granted and knew the deal. Men are more pushy for sex because they have high drives and less risk. Women are slightly more reluctant and risk pregnancy and heartbreak so they delay it a little. Especially for the sake of commitment. I can’t believe anyone doesn’t just know this as how things work. It’s not the “environment.” And how many times do we hear stories of women who caught feelings for their FB and are now… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Being coy and playful and teasing a little bit drives men absolutly wild. I actually enjoy doing it to a degree. Its definitely fun from the male perspective as well. The dance loses its beat when you find out other guys didn't have to play though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?I've seen this and even experienced it to a degree but then its a bit perplexing if they sleep with another guy randomly. If this was consistent than the logic is sound. To be clear, not having sex to avoid emotional attachment but then having sex with another without regard for hormones or emotional attachment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?Lol, finally. Took you long enough to actually come up with something that’s at least somewhat relevant to your original comment. Not that I think you’re right in general— not all women will go to shady parties or weird places are also not there just because there’s a hot guy, lol. But at least this is a plausible example that applies to some women (and some men also— like dudes don’t do stupid dangerous shit when they see a hot gal)... but haha, good grief, I’m still just laughing you tried to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/20 07:16 PM |
| 1 | A lot of cynicism from men about dating revolves around the fact that most women are not consistent with how much effort the men they “let” sleep with puts into them, versus the men that are actually dating them. And why I like the 90 day rule.I think only once a man has a lot of sex will he realize it isn't really the "holy grail" so to speak. It will always have importance but at least it may be re-arranged as far as priorities in a relationship If I used this logic on the women I dated I wouldn't get anywhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 07:11 PM |
| 1 | A lot of cynicism from men about dating revolves around the fact that most women are not consistent with how much effort the men they “let” sleep with puts into them, versus the men that are actually dating them. And why I like the 90 day rule.Maybe they're not being positive or productive but its really hard to say (case by case right?). I can definitely empathize with them, same as a woman looking for a committed relationship but dealing with fboys. Its two sides of the same coin imo. You're absolutely right about idolizing sex. I did that when I was younger and less experienced. The "casual sex" opportunities and experiences seem to come later for men. The sexual experiences with someone you love are much deeper and enjoyable but j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 07:07 PM |
| 1 | A lot of cynicism from men about dating revolves around the fact that most women are not consistent with how much effort the men they “let” sleep with puts into them, versus the men that are actually dating them. And why I like the 90 day rule.Yep, can you see how someone without the capability of the "fun" could be jilted? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 06:54 AM |
| 1 | A lot of cynicism from men about dating revolves around the fact that most women are not consistent with how much effort the men they “let” sleep with puts into them, versus the men that are actually dating them. And why I like the 90 day rule.From the average male perspective the sex doesn't come as easily so it is prioritized higher than for a women. We might even assume you place the same value on it. I think only once a man has a lot of sex will he realize it isn't really the "holy grail" so to speak. It will always have importance but at least it may be re-arranged as far as priorities in a relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 06:49 AM |
| 5 | Why women want to make guys they like wait for sex?It happens to me and I'm a male. Sometimes delayed gratification can make the moments sweeter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 06:23 AM |
| 2 | A lot of cynicism from men about dating revolves around the fact that most women are not consistent with how much effort the men they “let” sleep with puts into them, versus the men that are actually dating them. And why I like the 90 day rule.You're right about the tolerance but sometimes its fun to wait and let the tension build. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 06:05 AM |
| 3 | A lot of cynicism from men about dating revolves around the fact that most women are not consistent with how much effort the men they “let” sleep with puts into them, versus the men that are actually dating them. And why I like the 90 day rule.That being said, women sometimes outgrow the "fun" life and start to crave a real relationship while in a sexual relationship with some of these jerks, and so they try and change him into husband material and then get upset and bitter at men when he never becomes the husband material they wish for. That was a a different perspective, thanks. I think most of the guys on here would prefer being the male "dumb hoe" not the other guy. This may seem a bit crass but you have to realize that most men d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/20 05:52 AM |
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