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Im speaking about statistics where children growing up with single mom tend to be total failures compared to any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:03 PM

Men do as little childcare as possible That claim really reflects badly on all women then. Considering differences in results when children are rised by men vs women. If men outperform women so badly while only giving minimum effort, we can make conclusion that all men are just so much better parents than all women. I kind of doubt that. PS! Single dad of 3 (all 3 grown now), so I know exactly how childcare works and how much effort it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:47 AM

Everyone's sex drive is different From this (and I agree with this) we can conclude that: I don't think we can reduce any two groups' sex drives to being either the "exact same" or completely different. is false, we can easily reduce any two groups to have completely different levels of sex drive. But, in general, in my opinion, just from observation, men in average have higher sex drive than women. Some rare outliers are not enough to change main trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:32 AM
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I didnt say that. My English is bad, but its very simple. When you become bigoted, you stop being liberal. How the hell all of you skipped part "you stop being liberal"?? Seriously, its basic English. It means when you become bigot, you stop being liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 10:12 PM
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They can call themselves whatever they want. I have met sexists who claim that they are pro-equality. Does not make it true. Bigots usually are not happy about being bigots alone, they always do their best to limit other people individual rights. Like that whole 'cancel-culture' thing you had going in US is example of opposite to liberal mindset. Those are bigots. Even when they labeled themselves as liberal and progressive. Liberal means you can do what you want as long as you do not limit my r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 10:11 PM
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But this is not what I said. Sorry, English is my third language, so I must have explained something wrong. You can be liberal and then become bigoted (actually other way too), but then you stop being liberal. Core principle of being liberal is that you leave other people individual freedoms, and you expect them to do same. In my opinion bigots tend to be opposite, They are never happy when someone disagrees and try to enforce their "freedom" into others. That's opposite of liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 10:04 PM
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Well people refuse to explain to me what part of my claim is wrong, so I have no idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 09:59 PM
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Feminism needs to get men on its side in order to enact the changes it wants Have you identified what they want?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 01:46 PM
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Like liberal women are become more bigoted and radicalized. How is that even possible? When you become bigoted, you stop being liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 01:45 PM

I asked for exact quote. Sorry but I don't trust your English skills enough to just take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:13 PM

then just call girl scouts "scouts". Why are you such a biggots and hate equality so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:56 PM

I claim that you dont know what word bigotry means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:55 PM

“Scouts” exist because Girl Scouts usually doesn’t have a major emphasis on outdoor survival skills or camping. And US solution to that is removing boy scouts? What kind of bizarre world is that? In normal society you would make girl scouts do those activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:19 PM

They claimed that? I have not seen quoted claim. Could it be that you just misunderstand what was told? I have noticed that many people barely speak any English. Mostly native speakers too. I mean you probably misunderstand part of people. Did they really claim it about all people? Maybe about themselves? Maybe it was even about something else entirely that you interpreted as you wish to suit your narrative better? My claim is easy to debunk, show original quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:18 PM
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This is why I wish Trump didn’t go full bore into merit only. It screws over men. No it does not screw over men. Merit is good. Actual problem with your education system is that bar is too low. You need to rise requirements for graduation (and of course entering) from university, but you made it very lucrative business. University was historically something for very top end of people. Yes, there were always exceptions who got in because of money, but class issue is really separate from current d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 08:31 AM
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The current administration made it their crusade to focus on merit. Based purely on merit, girls and women outperform men in majority of academics. It really depends how you define "perform". Based on merit women outperform men in tasks where "average" performance is good enough. That's just math and logic, no need to even prove. When you go for tasks where you have to be above average, men tend to outperform women. It works with lot of things. Including education. Men outperform women when you …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 08:23 AM

Scouts are a business, they have monetary incentive. How is it relevant? I know everything in US is business, but scouts are from UK. Being business is something they should not be. It is primarily a non-profit youth organization and US changing it to business is just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:53 AM

I don't think you know what words self and victimizing means in English. Neither has any correlation with anything I wrote today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:51 AM

Questions cant be lies by definition, those can be leading so lie is assumed, but I don't see my questions as such. I asked for proof for your claims as you formed your opinion very weirdly. From you I want answers to support your original claim: What part of their post(s) is shit? I would also love to know why it's shit. I won't even argue about it, as something being shit is personal and different for everyone. So I would just accept your answer as is, I just want to know what makes someones p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:50 AM

I think it's more about the constant repetitions and results that we see in male only spaces. I hope Im misunderstanding you. As I'm low IQ and you have 300 IQ, could you please expand it using much easier language. English is my third language and I never got formal education about it. But from this sentence I can conclude that you are extreme bigot. I had to google term, because greek life (“Greek love/way/custom”) automatically took me back to ancient Rome, where it was used to be connected w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:17 AM

Because there weren't enough boys who wanted Prove it. Does not pass eye test. You just make less groups or smaller groups. and they had to include girls to get enough kids Yes, girl scouts already existed. Even when they were very tiny as there werent enough girls who wanted. would be ok with girl scouts if there were groups that did the same thing as boys scouts. Cool, do it then. It is not banned by law, so just do it instead of whining and taking over male spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:10 AM

Stop your silly lies. Its in the name, boy scouts, there were also girl scouts. Now there is girl scouts and scouts. No more boy scouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:09 AM

Because they are posting shit like this What part of this is shit? and claiming to be alpha only. And this is bad because? They straight up say women don’t let people grow. And this is not true because? You know its not enough to just say that something is bad, you have to show why it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:07 AM

I will not check it out, but even without I can tell that they have no idea what alpha, bro or camp means and neither do you. They just assign random label they consider insult to that camp to vilify it. And so do you. Does not make it true. Problem with native speakers is that you literally don't speak any English and understand even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:05 AM
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They tell me that it’s because women are killed for simply being women and that it doesn’t happen to men or doesn’t happen nearly enough for the government to implement some sort of law like the “femicide” one. Ask for data. I did, they have none. I copy paste my answer to them, I never got any relevant data from any feminist who pushed that narrative. Governments do not gather data about issue, but already implement solutions. They don't even know if problem exists, what is the root cause or ho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/26 12:30 PM
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His argument is that since women do not avoid men completely, they do not actually believe in the risks they claim. Ok, I have different feeling when I read OP. I got more "women avoid selectively and tend to pick worst men and worst situations". This is what I have seen with my own eye during life and I agree. So, in my opinion it is quite good proof that those claimed risks are bogus. Those are consequences of their actions (selection) and can't be painted to most of the men and generalized as…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:00 PM
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It seems to me like you misunderstood point of OP. It's not so much about risks women take, those are just proof and examples to show how ridiculous mainstream narrative is. To me it seems that he is arguing against mainstream narrative feminists push that heavily contradicts everyones real life experiences. Those slop "science" examples do not pass eye test on first look, yet feminists keep using those as proof or source for things. Risks not being absolute, is in this context irrelevant. Relev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:02 AM

Depends from definitions. I live in one of the most secular countries in the world, it's west for east, but probably east for west. Culturally we are mix inbetween. American crazyness reaches here, is pushed hard by noisy minorities, and then it fails because its culturally irrelevant. Age-gap relationships are very rare in here. I'm sure its as rare as in rest of west, just because even in cultures/countries where its much more common, it's stilly tiny minority. I claim that this issue is overb…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:45 AM
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So your claim just look at how many men claim “rapists make up like 0.0001% of the population!!” meanwhile this study shows it’s like 15%. comes from Focused on a woman unlikely to tell anyone (15.2%) Interesting part to use to claim that 15% of the men are rapists. Just out of interest, where do you draw line between rape and consensual sex? Also, in study itsself there is actually two possibilities to reach your conclusion: 15.7% reported using exactly one of the 12 items in the authors’ “forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:22 AM
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where did you get 15% number?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:44 AM
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This study does not measure what you think it does. This study was not even done about men. This study studied how self-proclaimed rapists would act.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:20 AM
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They do it just to cover up class divide. As distraction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 08:58 PM
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whenever there is a war and the conquerors are given a free pass to rape whoever they want, what percentage of them participate? I have no idea, as I have not seen any numbers. My gut feeling tells me its less than 95%. many men claim “rapists make up like 0.0001% of the population!!” meanwhile this study shows it’s like 15% What study? 15% seems too high, and I agree 0.0001% seems too low. You do understand that it depends how concept of rape is defined? I would even believe 95%, just because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:44 PM
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For some reason people seem to think that interest is binary. There are very few things in real life that are binary. Interest is never one of those. I agree in sense, that when there is no interest you should leave her alone, but it's much harder to define what level of interest. Everyone does it differently. I go for enthusiastic interest. But I'm one of the very lucky few who can afford to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:42 PM
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So lets make it very easy. Do you think 95% of men are (potential) rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:40 PM

I guess its possible of course. My problem tends to be that I don't care what random people think of me. I'm also in my 50s, and in average this is age range I communicate with. When my ex dumped me after 22 years, my best female friend literally told me, go find next one, just make sure she is not 17. Maybe it's just cultural issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:43 PM
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Go read again please. I literally said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:00 PM
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Even regular age gap relationships are extremely hard to pull off and happen very rarely. Someone who "constantly go for teenagers at the age of like 30 or 40" is literally insane qualifier, vast majority of men can't even get close to that. Even Leonardo dates older than teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:24 PM
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likelihood of differences in life experience, financial independence, and power can increase. And in real life, nobody cares. Its only permanently online no-lifers who make it seem important. A 35-year-old dating a 24-year-old What about 55 year old dating 24 year old? Why would you care? What can you do about it? Why should they care about what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:22 PM
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I think it's unnecessarily limiting. In my opinion all people who participate in reddit are toxic. I noticed it in myself, so I took it into my hands and actively work against it, and even then I sometimes fail. I think reddit is just very toxicity inducing. Mostly I blame administration and moderation policies, that cause enormous rift and create echo-chambers where wrong-talk is not tolerated. Root cause for it are very vaguely defined hypocritical rules that get enforced by admins on whim. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:19 PM
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No you did not. Also, you have no idea who answered. Amount of women larping as men here is staggering. But of course I don't know that either, maybe soyboys have really taken over reddit. Yes, men also frequently see and talk their friends, usually. But men friendship wont end just because life has taken us to different places geographically. What you describe is exactly why I told that you can't have more than 1-3 friends. Emotional labor is too time-consuming otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:10 PM
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I have never met guy in my life who had no friends. Because alot of the stuff you do in dating is really like hanging out with a person, especially first dates. That's interesting take. I never even considered it such way. For me at least, differences are enormous. If anything, I would compare it to job interview. have an actual conversation that isnt just flirting 24/7 Yes, this is what I meant. Those actual conversations go into interrogation really quick. I would prefer to chat about mutual i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:52 PM
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Yes, like every generalization it tends to be BS. Still its good indicator of trend. If you get 5 as a answer, I would say there is quite high probability that your number of possible partners is way too tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:47 AM
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Men are generally nicer to girls with pretty faces. This is how biology works. You cant "social construct" away millions of years of evolution. This is also reason why that whole "body positivity" movement failed. You can't fight biology (or physics), you would lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:09 AM
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Because average is such a complicated concept. Math is really hard for most people. Avarage as such by definition often means better/higher than half the compared subset (mean would be someone in the middle of subset). Most mean women are delusional like that and not only understand they are below average, they think they are entitled to top men. It just does not work like that, as what woman would consider top tier man is different for women (there is of course overlap) and more importantly suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:05 AM
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Women can't be penis models (stolen from some US TV show that I don't remember name of, but its old). I can't think of anything else really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:37 PM
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Nobody will deny Misoginy that has been a thing for longer. I absolutely deny it. I deny it because misogyny semantically as defined today by feminists not only does not exist, it can't exist. If we use same definition as it used to be, "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women" and same for misandry. I would argue that each has existed as long as other, as two sides of same coin. Probably predates Homo genus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:34 PM
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AND here we go again. https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-resource-dv-lgbti-2020.pdf lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively). Not previous boyfriend, no family, no excuses, just facts: 'in an abusive same-sex relationship'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:31 PM
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Lesbian partnerships have the highest rates of Intimate Partner & Domestic Violence out of every group - gay men have the lowest. ((I swear to God, guys, this was a response I received from a proud feminist)) “Well, women are more emotional and have hired standards for our relationships. We care more.” I dont try to debunk you, I agree with you. I never gotten such answer. I have always gotten exactly the same answer: "that research counts DV done by men to lesbians before they came out and star…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:28 PM
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Try HR. I don't work in HR, but I used to write software for them, its such a collection of drama queens for some reason. And it's like 99% female, at least in my country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:24 PM

We were discussing how you seem to think that PPB main narrative is 'all women bad', when it's clearly not. You must have some weird definition of passport bro. If you can't stand your partner being entitled to the same rights and freedoms you're entitled to, then that's not partnership that's a power dynamic What made you think that I want this? Im not from USA. But even I know that universal voting rights for men don't exist in USA. Women do have universal voting rights. So what right are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:00 PM
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It depends what you seek. As I told, people have different priorities. I enjoy simplicity that you find shithole. I also choose places where its peaceful. I just need good internet, and I have to admit that some listed places had problem with it. Tacloban and GenSan were not one of those places. Dumaguete is for example absolutely terrible for me. Yes, I did live in Cebu in total for around 3 years, did not like it, did not have much choice, business happens there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:30 PM
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Thats not good definitions. Its just too wide. You cover a lot of people who travel because they have other reasons than finding relationship. By your definition I have been passport bro since 1997. I'm white European and spent over half my time since then outside of my home country. Either for work, food, climate or vacation. I just enjoy it. Relationships happen, but those have never been in top 5 reasons why I choose particular country (if I get choice). I just arrived in Europe after spendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:26 PM
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I have a lot of blocked users and never got any trouble from it. It's probably because I block power mods, flooders and automated scripts from irrelevant subreddits where I do not participate. So as I never interact with them anyway, it just keeps my feeds clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:43 AM
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Your main problem with anything (not just passport bros) is projecting and not understanding concepts you use. 'all women bad' is not mandatory nor wide-spread amongst PPB's. What you can get is 'western marriage laws are fubar' or 'western women want a lot and give nothing' thats not 'all women bad'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:00 AM
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The worst paid person in America is rich by any country you are thinking of visiting. And they still have atrocious QOL when earning minimum in US. Your prices are crazy and incomes are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:53 AM
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Name 3 places on Earth where the median wage is the same or higher than what the average 35 y/o man makes in the US. Name 3 places where that wage gives you as bad quality of life as in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:51 AM
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A woman in Paris isn't poor enough to give some low value man a chance. Person living in rich city does not have to be rich by default. There are poor people living in those cities too. Low value is something that every person can only define for themselves. You get to decide your preferences. You can't do it to others. Woman in western Europe give men who you would consider 'low value' chances all the time. That's why most men are in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:49 AM
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Sadly 50% is good divorce rate. It wont get you even in top 10 worst countries list. Yes, US is not in top 10. Its all filled with European countries. Depends, if you consider Greenland country, if yes and you consider it not European, they are 9th.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:42 AM
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Men aren't being shamed for shit. Why you think so? All men are being shamed for actions of tiny minority. And they do it on global scale, like UN. Men who are losers are. Very slippery slope. Everyone can be loser for someone, it means nothing. It does not make possible subset of men who are being shamed any smaller, just smack label "loser" on them, and done. almost always 100 percent oblivious to the fact that they are usually the chief beneficiaries of it You just believe journalists who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:36 AM
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Don't use complicated words you don't understand. Eliminating (actually avoiding) the concept of love and reducing relationships to pure transaction is much much much older and widespread than whatever you define as "red pill philosophy" is. It has actually been default throughout the history and all over the world. Concepts of "love and non-transactional relationsips" is very recent western invention. It needs rich and safe society, like west is now. I do not claim that love did not exist, it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:31 AM
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You do not understand logic behind those claims. Number of men travelling is insignificant anyway. So your claim is kind of correct. But when you look at /u/k0unitX claim he is not talking about ratio from all the men. He is specifically speaking about age-ratio inside of this group of men who travel there. If it used to be 1% and now its 30% (just picked random numbers as its irrelevant) his claim is logically sound and yours is irrelevant and makes no sense. Where you could successfully attack…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:25 AM
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"converted" In my travels I met one PPB who converted to islam. We were having beers and snacked on crispy pata (deep fried pork leg). He explained it. No responsibility to do anything, just paper, just to make her family happy, home life is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:04 AM
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The actual bullshit is that western low value men Can't be PPB's. They have no money to travel and live, when man has money he is not low value, for some reason money rises man's value in dating. Yes, in west too. Thats why so many western women have preference for six figures. women who don't want them actually give a single fuck about what they do with themselves. Women are not monolith, in this context we are obviously discussing those women who do give single fuck and show it loudly in socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:02 AM
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divorce rates are far lower for passport bros Its very hard to not have lower divorce rate than western countries have. Like top 10 of those are from west at least (I have seen list). I don't even remember in what place and what non-western country was highest, but US was also not in top 10, it was all European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:59 AM
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When you say that you are PPB, how do you define it so you would fit under its umbrella? Most feminists I have debated with seem to define it as "violently misogynistic male sex tourists"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:49 AM
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Its selection bias, this is just only place where you go where you may encounter it. Just do quick google search (reddit search sucks) and you will find some discussions if you are interested. Put "passport bros" site:reddit.com into search bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:46 AM
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It has to be vague, otherwise they would have to look truth to the face and accept that its such a tiny fraction of total political violence that its literally irrelevant and no resources should be spent on it. They can't allow that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:26 AM
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feminism = against gender equality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:24 AM
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Do you have better links for 2 last ones? https://archive.ph/TkQBZ is dead https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/universal-manhood-suffrage/ is AI cancer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:21 AM
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We also should not forget that even today majority of men have no rights to vote. All this discourse is way too western, and for some reason ALL men get the blame for something that happened in USA, 100 years ago, for 50 years and is, as you say, was way more complicated than vast majority of them even understand.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:19 AM
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How? Only TERF's know how to define women in that movement and most of them hate TERF's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:14 AM
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It cant be cult. Its just too incoherent for it. Cult needs to have some set principles, "men are evil and bad, women good and oppressed" is just not enough. If you pick two random feminists and ask them what patriarchy (or misogyny) is, there is really high chance you get 3-5 different definitions and then they start fighting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:12 AM
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Only way to do that is to get rid of elections, I guess its next step. Then they can replace all male oligarchs with females. Then of course they will discover with surprise that nothing changed to better because common denominator for them is class and not sex. Then they will find way to blame that failure on all men like always. Typical playbook by stupid people who know nothing even about basic things, but love to look important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:09 AM
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No it was not. It was irrelevant noise to distract from real issues. Issues like fact that most women did not support it. Why? Because they knew that with rights come responsibilities and they thought stupid feminist rhetoric about "equality" was true, so they supported equality. Problem is, feminism has never been for equality, so it was false premise. Equal rights does not mean you have SAME rights. It means you have same same rights and responsibilities when possible, when not possible (for e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:03 AM
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It has nothing to do with my dating life, or women in general. It has everything to do with /u/pie-mart and me having very similar discussions multiple times before. In this example, she has no idea what I wrote, but she really wanted to answer. So she wrote something totally irrelevant to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:27 PM
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It's not about point of view. Its about you not understanding that most men actually kind of like sluts, do not belittle them, do not harass them. And especially, you do not understand that not wanting long term relationship with someone is not hypocrisy, even if you would enjoy same traits in short term relationship. Its all about definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:21 PM

They want this mythical hypersexual freak who is only a hypersexual freak for them. This is your quote where you describe men as monolith. Even if its subset you label in some way (like red pillers) it changes nothing. Such men, if they even exist are very rare. You just have hard time grasping that preferences for long and short term relationships are different. OP is making same mistake and complaining about hypocrisy of men having those different preferences. Thing is, all humans have it like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:08 PM
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No, you are just unaware what words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:05 PM
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Red pill is totally irrelevant in this discussion as OP has no idea what it even means. Even men who are flat out red pilled (even without knowing it, yes such men existed decades ago too) are not acting like she describes. It must be some very tiny minority who she associates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:04 PM
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Yes, I base it all on your post. It seems to be only fitting explanation. Do you have better one? No they don't experience that kind of things. As I told you, slut shaming is predominantly done by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:57 PM

For OP red pillers clearly mean 'men who do not agree with me', so it's just irrelevant label there. It changes nothing in my argument tho. No matter what subset of men you take, they are not monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:56 PM
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Thats literally what OP has written but from male perspective. Just clear and short.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:55 PM

They want this mythical hypersexual freak who is only a hypersexual freak for them. Men are not monolith. Those are different men. I think most men are actually afraid of 'hypersexual freak'. Men in general tend to want to be able to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:54 PM
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So, they shouldn't be able to pick and choose when to be offended by it But being 'offended by it' is very rare, if it even exist. Women are often nice to look at. If men don't want to wife up woman they consider "slutty", it's not because they are offended by half-naked women in general. It's probably because they have preference for women who are not "slutty" for long term relationship. Maybe at the very least we should be able to call them hypocrites Of course you can. If you find specific ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:51 PM
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red-pill ideology and the manosphere You have no idea what those concepts even mean, so just don't use those in here. It's pointless, we understand you just mean men anyway. a lot are huge consumers of porn and are even proud of it. Men are huge consumers of porn, so are women of course, but yes men are probably more in average. You could argue that internet is for porn, thats why for example reddit does not close down its NSFW subreddits. When some app tries, it usually backfires. They also lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:43 PM
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Exactly true. As I also have never seen men who do this, it still works with pretty much anything. I have very different standards for long term relationship vs short term fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:21 PM
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women didn’t used to have the right to vote In some places, at some time. Specific grievance is usually about 50 years in USA. For example in my country men and women both got right to vote for exactly the same elections. legitimate grievances that could be made about gender discrimination against women Your example is not one of those. Nobody in 2026 should be even considering something that happened 100 years ago for 50 years as grievance against anyone living currently, on totally different c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 02:12 PM
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especially as reasonable claims can be made that Feminism has become opposed to gender equality. There is no becoming. They have always been like that. I mean 1913 book was written about it. So, no first wave won't get pass either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 10:07 AM
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You should base your actions on his actions, not on some random "desires" you invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:44 AM
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Its same place you got everything. Social media. Neither one happens in real life. Nobody has ever shamed me in real life for preferring slim women, not dating mtf or single moms. When I once mentioned it in reddit, flock of rabbid weirdos flooded me with irrelevant noise about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:37 AM
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Why would society appreciate someone who doesn’t contribute to it? This was original premise. I argued that its false premise to assume that they don't contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:54 PM
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No, not famous. Regular men. It has been going on for very long time. Every family has/had one or more. They were called "black sheep" usually. Very often they were (closeted or not) gay's. Very often quite successful and rich. I think it's mostly jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:06 PM
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Often they contribute more than average person. Such men are very often highly successful. At least visible ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:32 AM
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They just earn their salary. They have no idea what they write about. That's problem with modern governments everywhere, not just for you. People literally build bloated empires inside byreocracy, so sometimes they have to somehow seem needed and relevant. There is no cure too. Many things have been tried, even violence. Nothing helps, all this corruption grows back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:36 PM
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Those are all just pointless labels that get redefined by every person who wants, whenever it's needed, for whatever. Mean nothing really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:23 PM
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If you open your eyes, you would see that's not true. Just being alive, around women, you would reach same conclusion. Women constantly buy useless junk that nobody needs. All of you too, 1-2 who does not does not change that fact, there are too few of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:54 AM
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90% is physically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:36 PM
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Why you keep asking for links when every time you get those you wont even open one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:36 PM
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Im very simple person. I say exactly what I say. I do not redefine. I do not abuse words. I don't play with definitions. I have no skills for it, English is my third language. Every time I open link to one of your researches, look at methodology and see how flawed it is. Just because they literally rape definitions of common words. I just open my eyes and look, and everywhere I look I see proof that narrative people like you push is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:17 PM
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In what world is claiming that you did 90% of house-work not whining and complaining? If you think it’s easy when they are older it sounds like your parenting is lacking. Teenagers still need a lot, in very different ways but it’s still needed. Men do it. We were discussing house chores split. You did not do 90%. It's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:30 AM
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All those "unpaid household tasks" are not hard, it's just part of being adult. No extra clapping is needed for performing those. There is a lot more than laundry when looking after 5 children. I know. I was single dad for 3. It was easy. Especially later. It's hard for first years, then it gets easier and easier. Looking after your kids is not "unpaid labor", it's choice and it's just part of life. There are hard things, but men can and do do those. Stop making it some kind of issue. It was not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:24 AM
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But laundry for 7 people does take a while. Yes, it takes while for machine to run, time when you scroll tiktok while "working". I know, been there, done that. My husband himself said I did almost everything and he was grateful for in the same way I was very grateful about the face he was going to work. Yes, I would also say same. Women need validation. I'm good man, I give my woman what she needs, even when it's lie. At no point was I complaining or saying he wasn’t doing enough. 90% is logical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:30 AM
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No I won't. I have done it here multiple times. Even to you. There is no point. You won't change your opinion. You won't even read anything written and if you do, you won't understand it anyway. It was right here, when we argued about what constitutes as homework tasks. All listed were the ones predominantly done by women, all excluded were predominantly done by men, even when done for home and family and unpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:11 AM
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Men work outside, women both work outside and inside the house No. That's just dishonest lie. I'm over 50, I have never met man who did not work inside house.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:06 AM
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Feminism does believe that men can be victims of the patriarchy. Feminism can't define what patriarchy is. When you can't define something, what you believe about it is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:05 AM
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Its just play with definitions, bad methodology. They define tasks men do as "leisure time", done, message pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:02 AM
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No, women just define everything men do as something that is not "taking care of the kids" and then complain that men do nothing. Usual dishonesty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:00 AM
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When I was off work on maternity I did 90% of everything in the home. I doubt that. 90% is a lot. You probably just did not see what your husband did. Usual thing. All this this statistics just skips tasks done by men. Also you probably did it like women usually do. No, laundry does not take 4 hours when you run machines, it takes 10 minutes where you actually do something. All this home work is easy and fast. Lot of machines to help us. No big deal whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:59 AM
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That's not what I said. I just explained why men are over-represented on both ends. It's just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:14 PM
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Any policy has to be enforced, even in a democratic society. Yes true. Difference is that in democracy you need voters support to enforce it. If all the voters say that this will not happen, it will not happen. That's rather contrary to reality. Yes, what you explain is common myth. Reality was not that simple. But, it's pointless to discuss.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 08:13 PM
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No, force is not required. How then? Policies have to be enforced or be really popular so people follow those on their own will. Otherwise those just fail. There are many examples. Currently, besides the forcing of animals to suffer, vegans and nonvegans alike are being forced to pay taxes to keep meat prices artificially low. So we agree then. Taxes are enforced. By threat of force. If you refuse to pay tax that keeps meat prices low, you would get punished by fines, or maybe even jail. This is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 05:31 PM
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My take was not about trying to create any kind of taint by association. It was trying to explain that you need authoritarian system to implement it. You could have just the same said Stalin was in position to implement veganism yet failed, and it would have made about as much sense. He could not. Soviet Union was huge bardak, everybody constantly ignored his orders. It was all about face, much like in Asia. But its also quite irrelevant, as you are kind of correct considering what I really said…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 05:22 PM
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Im speaking about All vegans want is to switch to a more sustainable, more ethical system of production especially for food This claim. It's only possible if you use force. Lot of force.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 04:50 PM
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You did not read what I wrote. I said that he was in best position to enforce such thing and even he failed to (try) implement it. It's exponentially harder to do in free society. Your Taliban example could probably do it tho.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 03:54 PM
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Very easily. Because vast majority of men had no power in society and were not class and did not oppress. Not historically and not now. Not everyone, there were few people who did oppress others. But that was not sex issue, it was class issue. It's just wrong to paint it as sex issue. Not everyone should be instead 'not vast majority' and it's correct. Also, nobody is at fault of actions of others. So any kind of painting someone as oppressor can only be personal and not based on their genitals …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:33 PM
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But we are discussing original premise: Feminism paints men as an oppressor class even though a large portion of men have zero influence or edge over women. So you are saying to me (and please correct me when I'm wrong, I hate strawmanning) that it's ok for feminism to paint all men as oppressor class everywhere in the world because 100 years ago for 50 years in USA women could not vote while men could? You are aware that most men can't vote today? I dismissed your take about bank accounts as it…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:30 AM
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I don't care how many CEOs are men. Exactly my point. It would be just bad example. I did not use it to dismiss anything. I used it as example. There were plenty of systemic barriers that limited women's power List some such as being denied the right to vote or even open their own bank accounts. Not those. Real ones. Still happening in western society. Not something from Afganistan or 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:14 AM
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Reading romance novels about bad boys and vampires and such are enjoyable for the same reason it's fun to look at sharks in an aquarium. You don't understand what is wrong about it. It's not wrong that you have those books. Go nuts. We are supposed to live in free society. What is wrong is when you send payment processors to kill very mild male porn while they don't kill amazon or wattpad over that smut. Equality you know, if your books are so dirty that we can't make movies or games out of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:08 AM
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34 Equating the Movement with the Cause "If you're not a feminist, you must be against equality." This makes it impossible to critique the movement's methods, priorities, or claims without being positioned as morally opposed to its stated goal. Related to #9. It does not make it impossible. It does not make it harder to critique compared to any other talking point. I just prove them wrong by giving example how feminists are against equality. They of course switch to some other fallacy immediatel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 11:03 AM
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Vegan arguments containing logical fallacies are not nearly as common. They are just so tiny minority, feminism is mainstream. It's just matter of numbers. All vegans want is to switch to a more sustainable, more ethical system of production especially for food, which upsets many people because it requires personal sacrifice from everyone. This is not how free society works. They can try to implement it under autocratic rulership. But, even most famous vegan failed with that. It is not fallaciou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 10:54 AM
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Of course there is specific point. I just wanted to know your definition of feminism that is based on accurate summation of feminist thought. There is no rush. Sleep is much more important than random internet strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:45 AM
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Yes, I was blind, my bad. It was in thread title. You are correct and I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:44 AM
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Thats nice answer, I accept it as is. Can we expand on it? I need some brain exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:36 AM
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That this is not an accurate summation of feminist thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:30 AM
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Oh I see, my bad. I did not notice it. Thats wrong of course. Clickbait probably as OP has nothing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:29 AM
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Did you see that leap? Link me to it please, as I did not find it in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:11 AM
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that doesn’t make women a monolith. I don't see OP claiming it anywhere. Could you please link it? And “high value” and “low value” men aren’t scientific categories. True, some generalizations can be made, but mostly every person gets to define it for themself. I mean everyone can decide what they prefer and what traits make their potential partner either low or high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:10 AM
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Even slightly flatter have significant outcome on both ends, considering both genders have about equal amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:05 AM
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Why not? Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:01 AM
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No need to always temper my responses Seriously? You literally know nothing of men. If you don't do that, you will get beaten often. Violence against men is normalized in our society. I could be direct. You should be direct. That constant wiggling is annoying. Say what you mean, it's allowed. At least for us in western society. Being direct is good. No one would assume I was bad at math or science Generalizations exist, but only stupid people think that generalization is always correct. It's bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:47 AM
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Men were allowed to vote long before women. Vast majority of men can't vote today. You are way too US-centric. In my country both men and women got right to vote exactly to same elections. What you said, literally means that between 1870 and 1920 women in USA were not first class citizens (yes, I'm aware that those dates are only legally "correct"). It's for 50 years, over 100 years ago. So after that women stopped being 'not first class citizens'?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:38 AM
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But it would only make sense if you compared them to similar control group. What feminists get wrong is that they don't compare at all. They just look at some arbitrary number and misunderstand it and scream 'oppression'. Majority of women were not 'first class citizens', but neither were majority of men. So their claims are just dishonest. They just refuse to understand even basic words in English and they keep redefining what words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:33 AM
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His original premise is: Men are not monolith Women are not monolith But men are less monolith than women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:27 AM
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For something to happen at a societal level, it has to be more widespread and common than just "over 50% of CEO's are male" You have to show and prove that males had some kind of widespread systemic and cultural power over females. If males and females are oppressed by elite class similarly, then common denominator is class not sex. It's pointless and dishonest to suddenly make it about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:26 AM
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Men on this subreddit proudly talk about how they pump and dump and treat women poorly when they’re ugly or not worth commitment. Really? In reddit? or literally in PPD? Could I get some examples please, because I have literally never seen it anywhere in reddit. You must be going into some really weird porn subreddits. Even the ‘cels here say that undesirable women “deserve” to be abused or otherwise treated badly because they are not high value Again, never seen such claim. Not even once. Well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:15 AM
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which factors you look at This part of your sentence is doing all the heavy lifting. It's just pointless excuse to make rest more believable. Yes, there could be factors that does not align with theory, but it's irrelevant because this is not what it's about. Nobody ever claimed that it works with all factors. Is there evidence that males are often more variable on some traits? Yes there is. Scientists are not generally doubtful that greater male variability exists in some domains. So you are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:12 AM
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No, it usually is not worth to wait. Good relationships rarely happen without sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:50 PM
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Hookup was there as example by me. I expanded it later to clear your confusion as it would work similarly with any other examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:48 PM
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No you did not use word hookup. I did you guys just don’t wanna be honest what what you’re actually upset about. I was answering to this one. It's not that we don't want to be honest about what we are actually upset about. “Being nice doesn’t make a man more attractive!” We can just expand concept of hookup if it confuses you. That sentence means that being nice won't change our chances with woman, it does not increase or decrease chance with anything, not with sex, not with relationship (no dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:01 PM
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So I didn’t misinterpret, you guys just don’t wanna be honest what what you’re actually upset about. No. You just take basic words and make those mean whatever you want those to mean. Also, nobody is upset about it. It's quite irrelevant. Women can find someone attractive and not want to hook up with them. Of course, I never argued that they won't do it. Go nuts. Nobody can stop you. We live in free society. Men do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:52 PM
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Most men ignore irrelevant noise and don't care how strangers see them. For example: Quotes like “Being nice doesn’t make a man more attractive!” You just misinterpret those words. Actual meaning translated to common language is 'being nice won't make your chances to hook up higher' So are men happy being considered attractive but no one wants to be around him? Indifferent would be better word to describe it. Happy is way too strong emotion. Are men happy being considered attractive but doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:08 PM
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That's just play with words. Probably concept of 'sexual violence' was redefined to something that happens often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 04:59 PM
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Because statistics is lie. Well not all statistics, but vast majority of people do not understand what it shows and misinterpret everything, so even if it's not lie, their misinformed slop conclusion is lie. When I go out to potentially dangerous situation, I take precaution. I leave expensive stuff at home, I take throw-away phone and wallet with me. I don't wear jewelry. I wear old/ugly clothes. I let people know where I go and when I return.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 04:57 PM
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That's just stupid. Communication is important in relationship. Your mouth is not just for eating, it can sometimes form words, just tell him to leave it to kids. Of course I'm quite sure he would just buy some more as needed. I always did. He is probably living in modern western world.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/07/26 10:30 AM

I want men to monitor themselves We do stop doing that We did. For some reason now women flood social media with complaints about it. Those few men who actually did need to learn that lesson learned nothing of course. See, you can't fix such things with slogans or add campaigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:23 AM

Your personal experience does not invalidate gathered data and done research results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:21 AM

If being stronger is innate/natural privilege, can we say same thing about women in average living longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:20 AM
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Thats even irrelevant as vast majority of them were just regular kinky people participating in their kink chat. Undefined amount of them were women. One person was arrested. So we know that at least some criminals participated, but its not even close to 62 million.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/26 10:22 AM
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Again this stupid thing. Even if it was 62 million users (it wasnt) they always ignore that % of those users are women. Considering that this kind of videos align more with female sexual interest, we can deduct that there is high probability that % of women amongst those 62 million estimated visits is higher than on more mainstream such sites.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/26 10:20 AM

but you conveyed a meaning that could be summarized with that word. No I did not. You just misunderstood it on purpose. Quote exactly sentence that made you think it conveyed such meaning. I never thought you force anything, I think you misunderstand everything. I don't think that you have any power to force such thing. Oh please, older men do not have money. Most of them are old and broke. Of course they are old, thats part of definition. They are not broke compared to other groups. That's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:03 AM

Yes, because English is my third language. Also, I do it on purpose so people won't go all feral on me and claim I'm AI. you can't be talking about people being illogical. Of course I can. Logic transcends language. It's very simple actually and your conclusion is highly illogical. You have no idea how delusional old men are. I do have. I'm one. I know many. Thats different from you. No idea, because you probably never left the basement. You know nothing of me. But you should know that older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:41 AM
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then it suggests partner choice isn't based solely on physical attraction. There are women for whom attraction plays no role at all. This is just how life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:11 AM

Its all on you. You don't understand how much older men understand their undesirability. You just imagine things. Its easy to see when you actually observe older men. and I can link the study if needed. Why write that instead of linking it? Older men frequently operate under the assumption that they are highly desirable to younger women. Very few of them, and usually then they are. Its impossible to measure btw. It's just your emotion, impossible to prove or disprove. Definitions of older, men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:07 AM
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I was not complaining, it was example of common complaint that is not "The only empathy they expect in return is women giving them sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:47 PM
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Men are told to open up more. Not seriously. It’s just an insult disguised as advice. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. That's on you. Either you imagine it, or you are surrounded by very weird men. You should choose your friends better. Never met even one man who would/did respond like that. And then wonder why it's backfiring That's also on your mind only. If there are some men in the world who wonder it, it's such tiny fraction it's not even worth mentioning. Or deb…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:53 PM

No they don't. As I told you, you have no idea what those words mean. So just stop using word feminism/feminist. Protests by people does not make it feminist protest, or feminist movement. It does not even matter whose definition of feminism you use, it would not make sense under any definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:43 PM
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They don't. Its all only in your mind. If it was true, PPB would not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:20 PM

No way Korea and Japan is the most feminist (or egalitarian), are you serious. Most feminist as having strongest, loudest most visible feminist movement. Your English is very confusing. There is a big gender war in Korea. Exactly. Making them probably most feminist in East Asia. Even statistically (which I don't trust 100%) Mongolia is more feminist than every east asian country As I told you multiple times. You use words wrong. Feminism/feminist does not mean what you think it means. https://wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:19 PM

I have tried. None measured equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:31 AM

I don't know any that would measure equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:23 AM
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Compare that pre 20th century Europe where women where expected to be house wives and submissive Thats just not true. If you define "house wife" like that, you must also define pre 20th century European men as "house husbands". Most people historically worked in place where they lived. "wife cooks and cleans, husband goes to factory/office and earns money" is modern invention and I would even say quite US centric. It was not that common in my part of Europe. Women similarly also had to work outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:22 AM

Mongolia also doesn't rank particularly highly in statistical gender equality measures Witch one? Could you please link it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:13 AM
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So basically traditional gender roles for men but not for women? Higher level of social participation does not mean that women have non-traditional gender roles. In my country women also had much higher social participation of women before Christianity was imported. So you could say that higher level of social participation IS their traditional gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:12 AM

feminism (or at least gender equality) Because feminism has nothing to do with gender equality. Feminism is for women's rights. It is the most feminist country in east asia. No it is not. I would say either Korea or Japan, but that's irrelevant as I already explained. suggesting that masculinity and gender equality are not always incompatible. Incompatible is wrong word here. You just use words where you have no idea what those mean. Masculinity/femininity has never been incompatible with equali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:09 AM
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There is a reason they call pass port bro "losers back home" Yes, jealousy if you can't even get a woman in your own home country Most of them can. You forget that vast majority of men have no resources to go anywhere. Its not even so much about money, but its about time. Of course you probably even have no idea what PPB even means, you just define any man you don't like as it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:15 AM
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This is a talking Point that a lot off Men dont want to accept. Only in your brain. Majority of men know and accept it. Have always known it. Long before you were even born. A lot off Men like to believe that Money and Status is "fair game" and that every Man on the Planet has to use it. This word salad means nothing. Except most men know that there is no thing in the world what "every man on the planet has to use". World just don't work like that. if you have to use ur Job, a Car, a House or an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:12 AM
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I don't hate anybody. Not women, not feminists. Hate is strong word, and very strong emotion. Hating someone takes a lot of energy, I rather spend it on positive things. I just try to educate you (and your confused friend) that words in English have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:50 PM
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Three of these are so vague they can't be discussed Only if you don't understand basic English or live in echo chamber. there's high risk of sexual violence once homeless Vast majority of homeless are men. It's not even close. Anywhere. But I was speaking about DV shelters where every time men try to open one (there are thousands for women, in my country those are maintained by government money) feminists gather and get it closed. Let me expand on other three that you found vague. Normalization …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:33 PM
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Normalization of systemic misandry when systemic misogyny was eradicated decades ago? Money spent on unproven trivialities? Shelters for women and not men? Pushing irrelevant narratives instead of helping men to eradicate real problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:33 PM
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She in particular supported the point that we are leaving in post-patriarchy. Just wordplay. Before she claims anything I need to know how she defines patriarchy. Also it would be interesting to know why there is like 2000 competing definitions that change daily depending what talking point feminists need to push. Patriarchy as defined by vast majority of feminists not only never existed, it could not exist logically and semantically. Their definitions are just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:10 PM
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feminism challenges social hierarchies No they don't. Replacing top end male leaders with females does not challenge social hierarchies as whole. It literally changes nothing. traditional gender roles that some people derive status, identity, and self-worth from. Again, no they don't. Some of them do, but that's very tiny minority. Almost not existent compared to mainstream feminism. Vast majority of them want to eat their cake and have it too. When your sense of value depends on existing power …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:51 AM
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Its pointless play with words and misunderstanding of definitions. Question should be how do they define concept of "feminist" and why it's wrong. Can you be feminist if you do not subscribe to patriarchy theory? What about intersectionality? I believe women identifying as feminists deserve benefit of doubt and presumption of being egalitarian not cakist or misandrist. If it tells you that it is a duck, you should still observe if it walks and talks like a duck. Sometimes chicken thinks it's a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:44 AM
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endometriosis research is chronically underfunded How to fix it? Raise NIH budget? Or take budget from cancer, HIV or heart diseases?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 11:13 AM
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easy to find similarities is why they are grouped together Only similarity is that those areas are mostly male. MRA's care about things like family law, schools, or healthcare, and argue mostly for policy changes. That puts them in a very different category from other groups. Red pill usually don't believe in group solutions. If you simplify, they mostly just subscribe to self-improvement as solution for your problems. Incels think the opposite. They seem to believe their results are set by biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:39 PM
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safer and better regulated than it is. You can't do that. Who decides what makes something "safer". There are some things that should be regulated heavily. But for some reason those are not. In same time I got warning from admins for mentioning women situation in Afganistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:35 PM
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There are plenty more. Whole concept of manosphere is just so weak, amorphous and useless that its actually very hard to find any kind of common story amongst them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:21 PM
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Don't put words to my mouth and keep on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:42 AM
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Most people are good by default. Some get jaded as they age, so it changes. But even then, they are usually just more careful. There is still good core existing. Genuinely evil and bad people are surprisingly rare. I mean in real life of course. In reddit you can meet a lot. Probably most of them just larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:36 AM
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where is the evidence of this? In your brain. When you think about what words mean, you understand. What you said just makes no sense logically and semantically. It would only make sense if you used some weird invented definition. if most men love women, they do a really shitty job of showing it. They don't somehow the tiny minority of misogynists are louder than the men who love women. Its on you. You are one who goes to pointless circlejerk places where few such people exist. I rarely meet one…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:16 AM
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You are just playing games. Its quite clear from context that I was speaking about your original point, that point was not about Taliban. When you say: most men who say they don’t care about a woman’s income are usually misogynists It's clear from context that you mean men who say that, in west, now. Not men 1000 years ago, or men from Taliban. They do not say that, so they are irrelevant to current point. i did in fact say the men who say they don’t care about a woman’s income are usually misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:34 AM
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I thought we are speaking about current situation in west. Men in Taliban do not care about woman's income because they won't allow their woman to work anyway. Also, we are speaking about marriage (like) relationships. Not hookups. Yes, misogynists who hate women usually do not seek long term relationships with them. Why would anyone seek out something they hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:22 AM
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men, especially nowadays, are told their whole lives that marriage is an enormous risk for them financially. No they are not. It's very fringe and not mainstream. Most men are blind to those risks even now. If we go back to my youth, it never happened. most men who say they don’t care about a woman’s income are usually misogynists who think a woman’s purpose in life is to cook and clean, or they are broke themselves. Very few men say that, but those who do are usually not misogynists. Depends ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:12 AM
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The only common story among manosphere men is how women won't date them. Depends how you define manosphere. Most common definition for some reason includes MRA and they concentrate on totally different issues. Red pill is usually included and they concentrate on what to do to get women to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:06 AM
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Respect is earned and not given. You probably mean basic courtesy and indifference. This is baseline.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/06/26 09:00 AM
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Before you can say something like that you have to define what patriarchy is for you. Using any of competing feminist definitions leads nowhere. I have not found even one such that ever existed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 08:38 PM
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No, I think when you look at enough data you get a general consensus that men commit CSA at a higher rate. You are just playing with words. Every single case of pedophilia is rape and assault by default. Women do more of those.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 01:42 PM
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When there is serious gender bias in sentencing, it means that CSA reports have to either account for it, or ignore it. Numbers are not good.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 11:24 AM
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One of you must stay at home and be adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:13 PM
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We know that CSA is really underreported Yes it is. Conclusion from data is that one gender is more underreported than other. Also bearing in mind that the study is based on information which asks the subject to basically self-report that they are a pedophile who engaged in pedophilia. Yes that's another good point. Self reporting is always suspect. Isn't it possible the data might be skewed because a lot of people would be way too afraid to admit that In this context it would only be relevant i…
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 02:12 PM
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Its quoting. Reddit uses markdown so I just use > mark. It should work on phone too. I don't like reddit on phone tho, so maybe Im wrong. I don't think any of my hobbies I would have to sacrifice just because I'm involved with someone. You are very naive then. I'm over 50, believe me, you will have to make sacrifices. There is only limited amount of time. Your partner (and children of course) will eat up most of that time. If we both wanna do different things we can go do those things It's possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:02 PM
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I see a lot of people argue that a big downside of romantic relationships are the restriction of free time. In sense that you have less time for activities you want to do as some of your free time is consumed by activities your partner want's to do. if you need to get away that bad why even with someone in the first place? And that's why % of relationships is going down lately. Some people desire freedom for their own activities more than close relationship. Especially as incentives have gone do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:52 PM
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2024.2319242#d1e829 Open Table 3, look under pedophilia and look for "Engaged in %", notice results. Consider that engaging in pedophilia is rape by default.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 01:26 PM

Before any kind of debate can be done, you should define what patriarchy is. If we go by mainstream definition your position makes no sense. The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. This is common definition used by feminists. Your position does not reinforce it in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:47 AM
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It's still irrelevant as it was not original premise. It's about ratio between men who uphold those values and women who expect men to uphold those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:21 PM
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Men dont upload more of the contact that she does I guess you meant uphold and contract here. But he is not speaking about if men uphold it more or less. He claims that women expect it more, as time goes and that "queer utopia" forms, gap between men still upholding those values and women who still expect those values will only grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:00 PM
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I think "or something" is end-result what comes in the end when that "queer utopia" collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:55 PM
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Are the majority of those men able to run a household? Yes. Or they will learn when they are finally alone. There is nothing magic in it, it's very easy. Men have invented and produce lot of machines to make it very easy. Can they clean up to the women’s standards What does it even mean? There is no such thing. Everyone cleans up to their standard. This is how life is. cook, grocery shop Of course. Again, it's just part of being adult. Weird thing to even mention. I did it when I was 6. maintain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:39 PM
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You’re living in a fantasy world. Its you. You just live as privileged subgroup in richest and most privileged society there has ever existed. As society even US is not rich enough to continue like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:32 PM
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I mean use same label for all those groups. Things you listed are not ideology. Those are observations and conclusions. If I simplify a lot, I would say that main core tenets for them are: Incel ideology is that there is no point to even try to get female partner as results are set by biology or life situations, and their efforts won't make a difference. TRP ideology is that you should improve to become more attractive, so you can get laid. Seems like quite opposites to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:20 PM
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due to mismatch in household chore responsibilities How do you know? I have not found even one honest research about it, yet its very commonly claimed. This idea that it’s harder than ever to find a woman bc you must be xyz box as a financial provider is simply faux propaganda from the manosphere. What part of manosphere? Incels and blackpill who have given up on dating, so they don't even speak about being "financial provider" to woman. Or red pill and pua who just bump and dump and push propag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:07 PM
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Red pill and incels are ideologically about 95% identical. Red pillers are no more successful, as evidenced by this sub. Then use same label. Why generate unlimited amount of labels that in the end have exactly same meaning. It gets complicated for non-native speakers when meaning of words is changed weekly. Also 95% is enormous overestimation. In that case you should be able to give at least some ideological overlaps between two. In my opinion RP is way too amorphous to even have ideology and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:48 PM
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The red pill was never going to work because it was based on the premise that the least successful, least experienced men somehow know the most about dating and attraction. You are describing incels/black pill. There has to be difference or otherwise there is no need for different concepts. we could just name all of those with one label.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:06 PM
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Please read again what I wrote. You literally misunderstood everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:00 PM
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It's very bad and weak metaphor. Men are not m&m's, men are not monolith. We evolved to recognize signs of danger. It's easy in real life. Specimen who did not learn it, just died off. Problem is, that now-days it has just declared "problematic", so feminists take high-road and blame whole monolith of men for actions of tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:57 PM

Not fully. There could be some other requirement too. But of course in pic based app, looks are majority of reason. Still maybe some subset of women also reject man based on profile info.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:01 AM
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There’re so many challenges women face As I told, challenge is not systemic oppression. Do not use words when you don't know meaning of it. If you want to use buzzwords make sure you are ready to back your words with facts. Your ad hominem is pointless, it does not support your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:06 AM
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Because I do have words to describe. Those words that those professionals themselves defined. And going by that it's you who do not understand what systemic oppression means. Only examples of systemic oppression in western societies in 2026 are ones that oppress men. I have not seen one example that oppresses women. Please give me one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:43 AM

No logical man is going to spend that much money on flights just for an “average” woman. Maybe they are just European? Flight to Berlin for me is like 40-60€, not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:58 PM
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I think his claim is more general. Not even about reddit, but even in real life or any other social media. I also agree with him. People who have not dated during "tinder era" just have no idea. Thats why I also clearly label my such advice with my age. As I'm over 50, my dating is totally different compared to younger guys. It's actually exponentially easier than it was when I was in my 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:29 PM
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Sometimes debates here are about dating. Also, his post is flagged debate by him, so he does expect people to argue against points in his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:24 PM
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These are (in a good sense) traits of competence, not masculinity Good thing about masculine traits is that every man can choose his own. Even you. Still it's not good idea to project those to others as monolith. One of the main traits of masculinity what most men subscribe to is DNGAF, this is what makes your projection very dishonest. Those traits are masculine. You don't get to define masculine traits as something that women don't have. All of these traits can be overdone, which is repellent …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:58 AM
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My college day's are long done by now. But you really do not need college education to understand basic concepts. Otherwise, just don't use words when you don't know meaning of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:02 AM
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You just use buzzwords without understanding meaning behind those. Very common with native English speakers. State of US education is abysmal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:20 AM
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Your post is generated by LLM. It's very obvious, don't need to even read it, quick skim shows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:06 AM
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can't address systemic oppression We can't address systemic oppression because every time we try feminists cry bloody murder and rest of women line up right after them no matter how many lies they throw into discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:05 AM
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why do feminists encourage men to go to therapy? They don't. It’s just an insult disguised as advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:03 AM
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Wdym by the usage of the term “lobotomize.?” Cutting off male based therapy is in principle quite similar to lobotomy. This cutting starts on educational level when men/boys are heavily discriminated in western education system and whole course is female centric. Result is that finding male therapist is very hard as they are just rare. If we want to improve it, we really need to have special programs to put more finances into male education at the cost of female education. We don't need such dis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/26 06:51 AM
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It still won't make it patriarchy. Patriarchy has hard time to exist because nobody knows what it is. When you ask it from two random feminists there is quite high chance you get two different and contradictory definitions.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 01:35 PM
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because cold approaching is very new. I'm sorry, but what? I'm over 50 and cold approach has always been default. Not cold approach has been kind of minority, usually through friends to approach friend of friend and such. I would argue that 30 years ago cold approach was much more common, that's of course my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:53 AM
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It's semantics problem. It depends how someone defines patriarchy. Problem with feminist definitions is usually that those are incoherent and can't exist because they muddle it so much.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 07:06 AM
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I actually agree that “Gynocentrism is not possible under patriarchy”. So existence of gynocentrism in western society is reason why patriarchy does not exist.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 07:04 AM

Why are y'all expecting women to scold other women online for saying nonsense? Like when they obviously lie? Shouldnt they get scolded then? So maybe they learn and stop posting such filth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:31 PM
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Men have the red pill/manosphere/ how to rape your wife/gf and get away with it websites and legal groups who do nothing but try to vote away women’s rights. If you really think so, I feel sad for you. If I posted something like that (but reversed gender) to mainstream subreddit I would get my account nuked by reddit admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:28 PM
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women often hate men as a system not individual men where men often hate women as individuals AND as a system. So, you have any source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:27 PM
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Problem here is actually you. It's how you personally define bashing. Bashing is not another buzzword to 'I do not agree' - just use some of the already existing words that mean this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:40 AM
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Being disrespectful does not hinder certain men chances of finding partners and is often rewarded by success. So yes, such men are procreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:57 PM
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It's wrong that producers made such selection. But of course they went for maximum controversy to make it go viral. This is how marketing works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:00 PM
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It has gotten better lately yes. Not that long ago men were constantly called out for having preferences to not date fat women or trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:47 PM
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I noticed that you are not person who started it. Thats why I asked if you mixed up. And then I asked you same question. It's not just one person. Most people here refuse to open any sources and even when they do open that source they don't have enough functional reading skills to understand what is written there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:21 AM
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Because they include calling her a land whale and that she's only useful for a pump and dump. This exists in your head. Very rare in real life. Men who have no fat preference do not pump and dump fat women also we do not call her land whale in this context, we do not even interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:12 AM
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Did you mix up who you answered to? My question has nothing to do with this or any other source. I asked question about your behavior, there is no need for source. Have you ever opened even one linked source in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:11 AM
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Sadly you are correct. I don't have good solution to it either. Every other way is even worse. When you get thousands of people under one umbrella, they tend to have different viewpoints. My economic views would probably drive many leftists mad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 02:53 PM
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I don't pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. You do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:23 PM
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Have you ever opened even one linked source in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:08 AM
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"Sexually compatible" covers 90% of the stuff Do you understand any English? Surely, if you understand the English language as a primary speaker English is third out of my four languages. I never had any education in English. What is your excuse to pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:58 AM
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It's disgusting how you pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. I assume you are highly educated native speaker, as most of people in this sub seem to be. If not, I apologize. This is typical tactics women use to derail discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:13 PM

Such things should never be about belief. It's core principle of functioning normal society that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:16 AM
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You literally do not understand what I write. Your answer is irrelevant. Eh, unlike you, he shows his posts Irrelevant, I also delete all my posts. Even before hiding feature was introduced. Also, hiding does not work. I hate being doxxed, so stop trying. hockey going back for years Are you saying women are not allowed to like hockey? See, I can be dishonest and irrelevant and put words to your mouth too. There really are men out there in the real world that value communication, shared values an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:06 PM
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No, because she sounds like woman larping as man. Notice, I never told that she is not man. It's internet, people lie here. I said she sounds like woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:44 PM
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I thought I was clear. I did say that she sounds like woman who larps as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:02 PM
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I noticed. It's irrelevant to how I feel he made that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:18 PM
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Your list sounds like you picked some woman's list from tiktok, turned it bit over, cleaned it bit up and posted as larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:59 PM
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Yes, she sounds what normal female human should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:55 PM
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So my first question is what is wife material? Make my life easier. And then men put the most value on sex in debates here, there is nothing except sex it feels like. Could I have some example please? I have not even noticed that many debates about sex in here. Putting most value in sex in debate seems silly. It's just baseline. It does not define relationship, its base, additions to it are what define relationship. So one, why should women want to be wife material if doesn't seem like men want …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:54 PM
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Im not from UK, so I can't tell them what to do. But I can tell how I handle such issue. When I vote (most often soc-dems, latest greens) I choose literally what party has least shitty platform for me. Yes, greens were led by crazy feminist, yes they supported some crazy policies. But they were still least shitty in that sea of shit. We can't always get what we want. So sometimes you just have to choose one between all bad choices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 02:10 PM
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He is typical US nepo-baby performative leftist. His views are somewhat left, but he ignores core principle, main injustice and root cause why it exist. When you are rich, you are just blind to those.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 09:53 AM
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When 'racial injustice' is still part of it's definition, it still contains its core principle. Incel has lost it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 09:48 AM
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Its meaning has been widened into nothingness. I agree with you about that part. But 'racial injustice' was not removed from it. It's still there. Being woke even today still contains this part. For incels, "involuntary celibate" is totally removed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 08:50 PM

"your body, my choice" and As non American I have no idea what this is. But reality for most of men is that they have no choice rights over their body. Draft and genital mutilation being prime examples. the online rape academy was a fever dream Yes, that was framed like fever dream
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:52 AM

The women complaining about not being approached aren’t usually the ones saying not to approach. That's rich. Same could be said about pretty much anything you said in precious comment. They want trad wives but don’t want to provide financially. The men who want trad wives aren’t usually the ones who don't want to provide financially. They want virgins who fuck like whores. Same They want a 1950’s housewife with no agency or opinion but don’t want to be a leader or have their shit together. Same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:48 AM
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Of course it compares to agriculture. You can easily make such comparisons when definitions are similar enough. Agriculture is roughly 25–30% of global greenhouse-gas emission, animal agriculture is included in it, but when we separate animal agriculture, it would be ca 14–18%. Fashion is roughly 2-8%. That's close enough to make comparisons. Also, when I claim "one of the" it does not mean top 2 or top 5, it could be top 10 and still one of the biggest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 06:05 PM
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Don't confuse biggest with one of the biggest. It's just basic English, but there is difference. Agriculture is biggest polluter yes. We also eat a lot, so its only logical it's biggest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:58 PM
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Interesting. I was starting to worry I remember wrong, so I went and asked too. The fashion/textile industry is a major polluter. UNEP gives a broad estimate that fashion produces about 2–8% of global carbon emissions, and textile dyeing is a major water-pollution source. UNFCCC has also cited fashion at around 10% of global greenhouse-gas emissions because of long supply chains and energy-intensive production. So you are in right ballpark. But still, those % are insanely high. It does make it o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:10 PM
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One of the biggest polluters in the world is cheap fashion industry, also it's transportation over large distances that is usually hidden under total transportation pollution. Why was this ignored? Because women fashion market is 2-3x larger than men fashion market. It will probably close the gap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 04:45 PM

All you have said has been irrelevant to anything I said. Please read before you respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:53 AM
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Yes, exactly. They have tried. It does not change my world-view. I won't become corporate shill just because they say so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:52 AM
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Thats good question. It does/did not tho. Societies have always conditioned all its member no matter what their sex. Just different things. Most of this discussion has been speculation from my side. I think stoicism was/is more conditioned into boys/men because of violence. Its quite universal too. You can notice it in cultures that had no contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:23 PM
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Being leftist has nothing to do with it. I'm leftist because I support worker rights over corporate rights. There are people who are leftists but have nothing in common with me. Not even support of worker rights. There are also types who do support worker rights, but rest of their views are unacceptable for me. I can't deny their right to be leftist, I have no such power. People have right to identify as they wish, even when they have no idea what it means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 09:19 PM

I said that its selection bias, thats not same as anecdotal evidence. There is distinct difference what those concepts mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:14 PM
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Was my point really so confusing? But saying "boys don't cry" in not a trait, or a behavior. I did not say anything that would lead to such conclusion. I said that it could be cause for why its considered masculine trait. Cause is not same as that trait. That saying is example of social conditioning that could have changed perception why stoicism as trait has been considered masculine. I could argue that boys crying in despite being told they shouldn't is proof that stoicism is not a male trait.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:13 PM
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I have no idea how you define it. So, I can't tell if version you subscribe to exists or not. Go to AskFeminists/wiki/ and look how feminists define it, I do not agree with them about this definition, but it clearly can't exist today in western society. The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. Its not men as a group who hold power, its very tiny amount of men who hold the power and vast majority of men hold no power …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:08 PM
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Yes true, but it did not lose its core defining principle like incel did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 04:51 PM
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Because masculine traits do not have all to be biological. Body shape can visibly be more or less masculine/feminine, but stoicism can't. how is it that it becomes considered a masculine trait, thats not really logical. Social conditioning. You can't change it in couple decades when it was created during millennia. Simple example "boys don't cry" could be root cause for stoicism being considered masculine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:38 PM
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Does not matter really who redefined it. I agree that it has been redefined too much, but woke as concept still has some coherence in it. Concept of "incel" literally lost everything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 04:34 PM
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Not all (or even most) men need to have trait for it to be considered masculine. Being stoic is usually considered masculine trait even when such men are quite small minority. It's just that there is even less of such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:05 PM
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In other words, the patriarchy is what enables this effect. If something doesn't exist, it can't enable anything. Before you use word patriarchy, define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:11 PM
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No. I think you don't really understand English.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:05 PM
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I doubt it's true considering how easily they handle men who cheat. Of course I don't know if its most, but I would think so, my own observation of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:37 PM
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Incel as a concept has lost all meaning since they separated "involuntary celibate" part from it's definition. Now it's just another insult to say "I do not agree with you"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 09:38 AM
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And how is that diabolical? Why would anyone in such situation describe themselves as diabolical? Most women find that disturbing and depressing. Why? They can easily avoid such situations, men who have rosters don't hide those, there is no need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:23 AM
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But a lot of the advice goes far beyond that and actively undermines healthy long-term relationships. Thats irrelevant. RP is not movement, its not set of rules, it's not monolith. It's just amorphous blob of advice formed through years because mainstream advice is extremely useless. Like any such amorphous blob, you can find any kind of advice that may or may not cause any kind of results in LTR. Your claim would only make point if you could demonstrate us how RP advice undermines LTR compared …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:21 AM
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Men describe themselves as diabolical by saying they want polygyny Why and where? Most men can't have such relationship. Men who can have roster don't care enough to describe themselves as diabolical. They just do it. They do it, because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:31 AM
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It’s creating a bitter echo chamber though Vast majority of places in internet are echo chambers though. Actually one of the few places where 'wrong think' is more tolerated are those 'manosphere' and adjacent places. Not always, not 100%, but you can easily see level of difference compared to mainstream spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:21 AM
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This is not what was discussed. Before answering its smart to read or even better, try to understand what was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:55 PM
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Show me one such comment where man claims that women have no right to be single?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:43 PM
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It could be minutes if subreddit is big enough.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/05/26 06:24 AM
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You have to look into comment I answered to. I'm sure you can understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:23 AM
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Depends how you define large. Its example of selection bias. You only see those men who hit on you even when they are very tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:22 AM
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I should have added more qualifiers, but I thought its not needed. I know men are heavily discriminated. I answered similar request here: https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1t1j65q/many_intersectional_feminists_have_a_very_shallow/ojidkh6/ There are very few if any areas where gender dimension that feminists use (so where women are discriminated) is bigger than racial/ethnic dimension in western society in 2026.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 02:48 PM
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I meant from those few areas that feminists cry about. I'm aware that there are some very bad situations for men, but feminists ignore those in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 02:29 PM
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Try to swap gender and post something like this. Measure time before admins nuke subreddit and your account.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/26 01:26 PM
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Considering that they can't understand that gender dimension is pathetically small compared to pretty much any other dimension and that class dimension has bigger impact than rest of the dimensions combined, you are totally correct. There is very few if any feminist who understands it. If there is, they are just too afraid to say it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 01:23 PM
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men here continuously complaining that no women means an unfulfilling life Horny teenagers. In my age-group you would meet many men who choose peaceful life over bad partner. Very common actually, especially because kids are all grown. I'm over 50
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:14 PM
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I'm 50+, such men are very rare. Vast majority of men know they can't pull age-gap relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:13 PM
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how content or comfortable a woman's life is staying single That evens out. At later stages of life men are usually much more comfortable and content being single compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:05 AM
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I already pre-apologized for such chance. Sadly its very common tactics used by many native speakers to shut down discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:29 AM
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Well yes its speculation. Educated guess if you wish. I think we actually agree. What makes it seem like disagreement is not facts as such, its semantics. When I said rape in context of biology I meant rape rape. Literally (and I use old definition of literally here, not that new weird one where literally literally means not literally) non-consensual intercourse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 08:25 AM
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It's disgusting how you pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. I assume you are highly educated native speaker, as most of people in this sub seem to be. If not, I apologize. Why is not being attraxted to someone is a character flaw? He did not claim that. What /u/According-Tea-3014 in my understanding claims is that dating someone you are not attracted to is character flaw. Of course English …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:16 AM
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The thing is a lot of women would rather be single than with a guy they aren’t head over heels for. And that's their right. I have not even noticed RP men claiming otherwise. It's some weird misconception that men somehow want to force women to be in relationships they don't want to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:10 AM
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You seem to make serious mistake with definitions. Observation and explanation is not same as accusation. What you claim is quite rare. This is what is told in places that women love to label as 'manosphere' and by definition it's very tiny corner of internet. You have to actively seek it out to interact with it. I know, I tried. You can make that claim when you can point out constant flood of such telling in mainstream media (or even social media, just avoid fringe areas with minuscule user bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:07 AM
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But I wonder if biology is doing most of the work for them. Yes it does. Fact is that rape is normalized by biology. Just observe how such things go with animals. Humans worked hard and created social constructs to minimize it, but its still fact that rape as such is "social construct" and civilization is what mostly prevents it. So every honest statistics will find out that men are more likely to rape than women, that's just biology. Also “Greater Male Variability Hypothesis” plays role there, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 07:53 AM
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Yes, they have expanded definition of such concepts into nothingness. First they expaned it to "rapey behaviour" and then they changed it so everything falls under umbrella of rape. Like that "research" they love to quote when they say that 95% of men are rapists. I mean this abomination https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605261432630 They use methodological trick to inflate unreported rape statistics. Researcher definitions applied over participant experience, result reported as if c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 07:46 AM
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When FGM is declared torture by UN and is punishable by jail in many countries, so should be MGM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 08:07 PM
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I think that change is visible in internet only. They widened definition so much, that now majority of women comfortably fit under that umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:21 AM
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Yes, I reached that conclusion too when I read definition you gave. My comment is based on my own life experience. It's very common that women try to gain my attention by belittling other women (men too actually, especially ex-partners). I don't even understand why they think it works. Can't comment if men do it as much/more/less as I don't date men, but amount of such women is surprisingly high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:19 AM
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majority of children raped are by men https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2024.2319242#d1e829 Open Table 3, look under pedophilia and look for "Engaged in %", notice results. Consider that engaging in pedophilia is rape by default. Think about it. Think about statistics. Ask yourself: "could my opinion be formed because of false claim based on faulty definition?" Or not, won't change your mind anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:16 AM
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But that definition would make majority of women "pick me"-s Belittling other women is extremely common, especially behind their back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:06 AM
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It is not. Actually you are not wrong with your definition. It's just irrelevant. It used to be somewhat coherent concept (woman who acts and talks against mainstream narrative to gain attention from men) but then it was redefined into nothingness and now its just another buzzword that means 'I do not agree with you'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 08:29 AM
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Im ok with them doing such thing, I know they are like that, I expect them to do it. But I also expect them to at least be coherent in their arguments. For some reason its very rare. They always do same thing, just redefine and misinterpret everything till words I say get meaning that is exactly backwards. English is my third language, if I can understand what sentence means, so should they. Most of them are college educated native speakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:53 AM
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harmful direction their current preoccupations lead them to. You have no idea of that. You don't even know what their 'current preoccupations' is, so you can't make even semi-educated guess where it could lead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 01:55 PM
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No. And its very confusing how you are incapable of understanding even basic words I use to write. English is my third language and Im very confused how you came to such conclusion based on anything I wrote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 01:42 PM
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Why are you actively trying to misinterpret what I wrote in the worst possible way? This is their default MO. They think its some kind of gotcha trap. They pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. And those are supposed to be highly educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:11 PM
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You were picked on but somehow popular with girls. It’s all a contradiction. Why? I'm over 50 and I have met many such men who were picked on in early life and then grew to be heart-breakers who had lot of girls drooling after them. Some even did it much later in life, like being already over 40 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:08 PM
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The Red Pill, Black Pill etc are standing directly in the way of the kind of discourse that their participants need. Its not for you to decide what they need. In free society people decide what kind of discourse they subscribe to. Only way to implement your solution is to implement full scale authoritarian regime and we can see how well it works in North Korea, at least for regular people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 12:44 PM
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If you're a political activist who identifies as a liberal and you find yourself having a lot of fascist fans, the correct course of action is to weed them out. Correct answer is to define what is liberal and what makes you liberal. And then try to understand what fascism is. Vast majority of people just use it as slogan and actually mean 'I do not agree with you' when they use it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 07:45 AM
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No it does not hold any water. She just repeats silly talking points without understanding what is behind it. correlating to women's higher risk of injury and fatalities in crashes. This is misinterpreting data. Women get more hurt in car crashes because their bodies are weaker and can't take as much punishment as male bodies can. That's it. Biology and evolution.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/04/26 06:06 AM
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But then blue pill does go way beyond that The difference is minuscule, baseline is huge. It's glass of water next to ocean. Most of modern day concepts are incoherent mess because wide adoption of internet and social media have made language something that anyone who wants can come and redefine basic concepts daily. "what everybody thinks and says" Yes, I agree. Same for feminism. It's not even really organization in sense like let's say boy scouts are. So movement is better descriptor, but sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:49 AM
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They clog the airwaves and waste space. You literally describe vast majority (like 99.9999999%) of internet and about 90% of society outside of internet. Pretty much everything you encounter during your regular day is 'clogging the airwaves and wasting space'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:35 AM
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Yes its very interesting. Feminism has thousands of splinters. Latest one I discovered was bimbo feminism, it's fascinating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:30 AM
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But god you really have to weed out the misogynists or everything turns to shit and your cause falls apart This is not how internet works. Never has. You are just wasting your effort, you could do it better if concentrated your efforts into real life. It does not work because people are extremely dishonest in internet and mostly just play with definitions. You can't weed out misogynists when it's definition changes hourly, or if you try you will stand alone in the end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:29 AM
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Yes, its impossible to get message across. Feminists are just extremely obnoxious and loud. They yell you down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:14 AM
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You can make same arguments about feminism and it would still be stupid to say that feminism does not exist, you can easily observe real life and see that feminism exsists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:12 AM
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Of course abusers should be blamed. Can't blame men who are not abusers. they take a woman being partnered with a manipulative psychopath as proof that lots of women want that They don't. Amount of men who think like that is extremely tiny. I have never met even one such men. It's illogical and stupid to make conclusion about 'lots of women' based on 'woman'. Men in general tend to be logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:28 PM
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It really does not help me. How can you even make format like this. Its really hard to read. Have you ever seen tiktok or instagram? You talked about dating. This is something you do in real life. So lets discuss it in context of real life. Yes, I'm aware that tiktok and instagram is also full of weirdos even when I have never visited those. I have really hard time connecting anything you say with anything I said. You told you are not female and for some reason you write totally illogically. Cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:18 PM
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Plenty of women, is not women. This is basic English. I don't even understand your argument. You try to tell me that there are no women who only bring holes (or themself) to the table? Then say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:00 PM
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It's still choice. Of course I write about my personal experience. Society tries to help her, police tries to help her, government tries to help her, her mom tries to help her, her friends try to help her. She refuses all help and crawls back to him to get next beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:58 PM
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You should start with baby-steps. Try to understand how word "plenty" changes meaning of sentence. English is not that hard. I'm sure you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:50 PM
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I defined anti-social behaviors very clearly And I answered to you. You ignored it. It's ok, you are probably flooded. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1sy6csq/far_too_many_men_cannot_see_that_they_have/oiwg6t3/ Also I'm not female Irrelevant, but flair up, or you will be misgendered. You write like female. also what your saying doesn't fit into the context of this debate what's so ever. You claim you are male. Stop using your emotions and explain with short clear sentences how …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:49 PM
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There are plenty of women who bring a hole to the table and nothing else. English is my third language and I still understand this sentence. What part of it causes confusion in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:42 PM
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Exactly, that's only possibility. Facts will get ignored as usual. He must concentrate on emotions. In the end it changes nothing, even when he wins, he loses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:26 PM
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PART 2 - as comment is just too long The story of how one researcher discovered that the study was fraudulent, and how he came into possession of the raw data that they tried to bury, can be found here: Rosenthal, M. B. (1995). Misrepresentation of Gender Bias in the 1989 Report of the Gender Bias Committee of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Breaking The Science. http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php Unsubstantiated reports that women were being underrepresented …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:24 PM
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This is not my comment. But I saved it. It was smart move too, not only was author banned from reddit, whole subreddit was eradicated by admins: PART 1 - as comment is just too long, so I had to split it Sometimes they take it gracefully and report their results in good faith. But other times they make excuses for it or try to cover it up. The following is a list of 13 examples ranging from hiring discrimination, domestic violence, educational discrimination, and child custody discrimination. A …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:23 PM
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I'm egalitarian. I'm not even MRA. I only snuck here because it's one of the few places where they do not kick me out when I say such things. I do not even believe in men's rights (or women's rights), I only believe in equal rights of opportunity for everyone. Also, English is my third language and I never received formal education about it. It's all self-learned, that's why its so bad. You have a lot to lose. Your chance for education, your future career, your grades. Feminists don't care about…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:19 PM
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He will lose, but only because everyone else in room is against him and all his arguments will be ignored. No matter what goal he has.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 12:04 PM
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Yes he is, and so are vast majority of feminists. You can't debate them with facts, they ignore facts. You have to lower yourself to their level and just pick apart everything they say and deny every time they try to put words into your mouth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 12:02 PM
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Can't forget definitions. Definitions are their main weapon. When they need some claim, they do not lie with numbers. They just change definition so numbers show what they want it to show. Like with rape statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 12:00 PM
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feminism is hard to debate Feminism is very easy to debate. But its impossible to win that debate as everything you say that is considered against it, is just ignored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 11:57 AM
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You can't use any facts. They won't argue about facts. Feminists never do. Not online and specifically not in real life. They argue based on emotions. If you have time watch this video: https://youtu.be/Q9xBUBX26wg?si=nrsD3DwLv2BX-yv_ He explains how women argue and you really need it. Male feminists are basically honorary women anyway. Whole video is worth watching, but I put in timestamp where relevant part for you starts (12:35).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 11:53 AM
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Don't do it. You have nothing to win and everything to lose. You ruin your life and change nothing. They just yell over you, and there is no way you can prove anything. They just dismiss everything you say with extra noise. You can only debate in respectful environment where both sides have rights. Current time educational environment is not that. Just keep your head down, get your paper, and get out. EDIT: Just one regular advice. When they tell you something like "So, you are telling that ..."…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 11:45 AM
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they take a woman being partnered with a manipulative psychopath as proof that lots of women want that You kind of mix it up wrong way. Most of us think that woman (and yes its tiny minority) want that because they keep going back to abusive exes and for some reason even when they pick new man, its still abusive scum. This is from real life. Such women often don't even listen their female friends. It's same even in western societies where such women have very strong support structures from gover…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:27 AM
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“see look, you’re an asshole here that’s why you don’t get dates” Its other way around. I'm an asshole (for them) because I do get way too many matches and dates. It's just filter. I have no energy to date them all, so I can be asshole and just tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:21 AM
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You are getting downvoted because you can't read and add nothing to discussion. because women, essentially, being called "holes" makes me want to barf! It's on you. It was not written there, you just wanted to read it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:19 AM
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anti-social behavior are not that common I agree it's very uncommon. Basically fringe. Actual problem is that this is not how OP defines it. For her everything she does not like is "anti-social behavior", even when such people are successful in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:11 AM
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You take something that happens in tiny sliver of internet echo-chambers you visit and extrapolate it into real life. Things just don't work this way. "nobody wanting to be around them" is relevant only in real life context. Nobody cares about this happening in internet. always feeling the need to bring somebody down Agreed, people in real life avoid such people. How is it connected to men in general? In my experience there is at least same amount of such women. Not gender issue. every time a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:04 AM
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No they don't. That's not blame. They accept it as reality and work on themselves to be one of those who are considered attractive. Contrary to your claim, they never say all men SHOULD be seen as attractive, they accept that most men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:03 PM
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Unattractive still has value. It's just lower. 90% of the people are unattractive. Yes, women too. Yes, I know my claim make most people very angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:02 AM
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The red pill agrees with this but instead of saying so They literally say that blame women for not seeing regular men as valuable They don't do that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:01 AM
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Thats pure gold. I will steal it all (including responses) and will use it every time unhinged feminist needs some mansplaining done on her.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 01:14 PM
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Yes I mixed up studies, I covered it with my other comment. Still definition issue. They expand definition of rape into meaningless word salad.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 06:17 AM
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Even worse. I remember that research too, I mixed it up because her voice was too annoying for me to suffer through her video. That study reports 90% or more men answered they'd never rape a woman. So they just massaged numbers by (surprise surprise) massaging definitions. They call it "rapey behaviour" and then expand it to mean "rape". They included things like "asked multiple time for sex" as "rape".
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 05:53 AM
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It is not made up in sense that rape is defined as something that literally only men can do, so only surprise here is why its not 100%.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/26 10:52 AM
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If my ideal corresponds to billion women all over the world and yours corresponds to one person, then I just have much higher chance to find my ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:47 AM
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But my ideal is so low requirement. I have found multiple during my life. Of course I have right to have my ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:18 PM
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It just makes things more visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:31 PM
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Single usually does not even mean 'no sex' for them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:55 AM
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If you acknowledge that 99% of rapists aren't men But that's definition issue. Only question we ask when we see this % is 'why is it not 100%?' Reality shows that its much more towards parity when 'made to penetrate' is included in definition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:54 AM
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I personally think women cope better being single I don't agree at all. Men cope much better being single. I think you only consider small sliver of life. Basically teen and early 20's, then it's about equal, but soon after men would cope much better. And this is only about being single, as not in close loving partnership. If we also include social interactions like friends, difference grows huge. When we check out people who prefer extreme solitude vast majority of those are men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:47 AM
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Fascism is another interesting topic where we can discuss those core tenets for years, especially if we start comparing their core principles to other movements. But, yes of course you are correct it is one of core tenets of fascism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 09:06 AM
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alarming statistics which show male violence against women and girls is an epidemic There is none. Actually statistics show that violence in western society (especially sexual violence) keeps trending down throughout decades. You just believe lies by amateurs who push agenda and ignore statistics. I'm not sure why some men are so mad? Newton was genius. It's unbelievable how he defined his third law and it literally works outside of physics too. Misogyny continues to hurt and kill women by the h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:38 AM
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If you define it like that, it can't exist. Logically and semantically can't exist. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women and girls. This part can exist. It's extremely tiny minority that is actively shunned and punished in western society, but at least its possible. It functions as an ideology that justifies patriarchal systems You have no idea what ideology or patriarchy means. Those additions invalidated your whole definition. aiming to control or limit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:33 AM
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True, as they are extremely tiny minority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:24 AM
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"Once we've 'Smashed the Patriarchy' then there will be time to look at men's issues" That's rich, considering they are incapable of defining what patriarchy even is. Can't smash something you can't recognize. When everything looks like patriarchy then smashing will never end. I literally can't understand how feminists can be so blind to basic logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:17 AM
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There are feminists who are transphobic and awful towards trans people - that is not real feminism IMO. Feminism is not defined by their split between TE and rest. There are literally thousands of splinter groups because whole movement is just too bloated. Feminism as umbrella term has so many core tenets that it's impossible to adopt all of those as single person. Those splintered groups tend to have some overlap amongst most of them. Like patriarchy theory (only some academic feminists are mov…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:11 AM
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Ok, this made it much clearer. I blame my bad English skills for misunderstanding your earlier points. Yes, I absolutely agree that feminist discourse ruins people who start as egalitarians. And again yes, working class is huge majority in absolute numbers. So yes, there are more working class egalitarians. There are very smart working class people too and they do think about such things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 07:51 AM
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I will separate the "feminists" into two categories, egalitarians and misandrists. Why? Egalitarians are not movement or organization, it's just bunch of people who support equal rights, they are not inside feminist movement as you can't be egalitarian while hating, oppressing and discriminating half the population. Meanwhile, egalitarians, usually working class people Let's be real here. Vast majority of working class people don't think about such issues. At least this is my experience. I come …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 07:01 AM
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So? And I answered to it, and it was ignored. I know killing is bad. How about fact that women get convicted less than men when they actually do kill? It affects statistics. How about fact that women drive their intimate partners to death without directly killing them? I know its not as bad as killing someone, but dead is dead. They avoid punishment and statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:58 AM
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That's good story, but I doubt many (or any) of them has ever even read it. They also call my ancestors oppressors, they were enslaved till 1865. They just can't understand that slavery happened outside of US too. People who could be sold without land and whose slavery did not end after certain period and whose children were also born into slavery.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 07:39 PM
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Feminists can't even give you coherent definition what patriarchy is. Something that could not be picked apart and shown false very easily. That happens because they are unable to admit that gender dimension in their own intersectionality theory is pathetically small compared to pretty much any other dimension and that class dimension has bigger impact than rest of the dimensions combined.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 07:31 PM
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Why you can't just accept it? It's literal definition of what moving goalpost means. You shifted the standard to suit your narrative. But it's irrelevant. I already answered and accepted that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:16 PM
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Ok English is my third language. Maybe I do misunderstand. There is difference for me. Those sentences are not same. Any options is better - it means for me that no matter what kind of option, its better than no option, its one option and -s in the end of option is just grammatical mistake. Having options is better - it implies for me that you have multiple options. So Any or Having in this context would mean exactly same?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:44 PM
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What part of any of it is right wing? I think you are just not aware what being left wing means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 05:28 PM
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So now we move goalposts from physical violence in partnerhips into killing. Yes, then you are correct. Men kill more women in partnership than women kill men. Its about 61/39 for close partner killing victims. Of course it does not count deaths that result from partner violence, but who cares about that. Nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:26 PM
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They however are not the primary target for rape or physical violence in partnerships Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:33 PM
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No this is not what I said really. Maybe I did make it confusing, my English is bad. men crave peace and solitude more than women It means that in my experience there are many more men who thrive in solitude. It has always been. It seems to be dominated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:35 PM
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Men have said “any options is better than no options” Was original premise. This is what Im asking examples of. Man anwered to that: No, men say "having options is better than no options" then you said: The boys/men on this sub that struggle in dating parrot that phrase to women here repeatedly. How is man disagreeing with original premise example of men parroting original phrase to women? It's exactly the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:47 PM
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It implies that women have to bring something. Men are the prize. They are here. No, that can't be true. When men ask women that, they imply that both sides have to bring something. Any other way would just be stupid. When some man asks you 'what you bring to table', he already has answer to that question ready from his side. "men are wondering why toxic men getting women and simps don't" It's close, but not really. Those men doing "wondering" already have answer in their mind. It could be wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:04 PM
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comes directly after a conversation I had with another guy on this post who is pissed at women for also wanting peace. I did read all comments in this post, I did not notice that part. So I went back, reopened what I could and looked through to find out what you are speaking about. I went through everything find function could find with your name and could not find that place. Please give me np. link to it (non np. links may get removed).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:56 PM
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I don't know what you mean by belief. I myself would define it as observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:43 PM
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How did you reach conclusion that I did not like quality of OP? I actually found it intriguing, thats why I even argued with you. I was just miffed because first I tried to read to see how other people countered your arguments and noticed that most top level posts were circlejerk agreeing with your point. That's against debate rules in this sub. This is only reason why I did suggest other tag for such post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:38 PM
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That's the difference between men and women. If there is difference, than it would be that men crave peace and solitude more than women. At least for most part of life, teenage boys are hornier and have lower standards for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:34 PM
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I have no idea what you mean by standards are gradually raised That's very common in relationships. Has been same for centuries. Albert Einstein reportedly said, “Women marry men hoping they will change, and men marry women hoping they will not. So each is inevitably disappointed.” I don't know if he said that, but its very common thing old men told me when I was kid (Im over 50), so it's at least this old. Basically when woman marries she starts to change man to make him more suitable for her n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:26 PM
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Why do you even bother label your post as debate? It's kind of pointless, just use discussion so all that top level circlejerk won't break rules. Men are not only competing with other men. They are also competing with the peace a woman feels when she is single. I have never seen any man arguing that women don't have baseline requirements for relationship. That would just be weird. Usually when people discuss requirements for relationships they already assume baseline exists. What makes me think …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:14 PM
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Could you please give me example from this subreddit? I have not noticed it, but I could have maybe just missed it because of selection bias, I choose to read only threads that seem interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:48 AM
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Good for you. I'm for equal rights and that does include right to live without unnecessary pressure to find partner. Nobody should put their nose into other people love life, not even parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:26 PM
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The only time I hear about commit issues, is for already established long term couples that have kids, a mortgage and a dog together, but the ring is apparently too far for some guys That claim does not pass eye-test and your evidence is too biased to use as proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:55 AM
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Specific Reddit subs mean specific types of problems. Those contain self-selected populations of people with those issues. Textbook definition of selction bias. Also those include availability bias and negativity bias. Just bad example. Also you draw conclusion that is impossible to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:45 AM
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Memes are discounted as argument. It's much better to collect deeds and facts like is done in /r/ToxicFeminismIsToxic or /r/TheTinMen I don't argue against it, it would be good thing to have. I just think its usefulness is quite limited as most people discount/ignore those as not representative. 'No true Scotsman' fallacy runs rampant in feminist circles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 06:42 AM
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Thats literal textbook definition of selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:29 AM
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You forget about societal and family pressure. I think people my age are giving current youth much more lenience with relationships. I'm over 50 and when I was young there was relentless pressure to settle down and have family and kids. Especially because I had very good job since young age, but it was same for everyone in my age group. This pressure was created mostly by women, constant gas-lighting and lies how it would improve my life. I have 3 kids and I refuse to put them through this press…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:14 AM
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There aren't enough men who realize that not having a girlfriend can actually be less emotionally and financially catastrophic than having a girlfriend. Maybe its just your age-group and geographic area? I see such men around me, most of them have gf/wife. Thats how they know, they have comparison. And its nothing new. It was same 50 years ago when I was little kid. Old men told same things. Marriage is death of love. After you get married you will never have peace and quiet. Women invent shit j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:45 AM
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Majority men know it well. It's tiny fraction who may say what you think, I have not seen even one, but some probably exist. It's overblown, taken out of context and turned around 180 degrees to avoid discussing what really happens. All the online discourse by "male loneliness epidemic" is mostly pushed by angry women, who are just projecting because they are incapable of being in peace alone and think that men work exactly like they do, that men need constant validation and socialization like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:38 AM
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It’s clear you didn’t see the recent cnn article They have many articles and you forgot to link me one you refer to. I did read this one: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2026/03/world/expose-rape-assault-online-vis-intl/index.html Is it the one you thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:58 PM
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online grape academy 60-80 million men visit a month Those sites are also visited by women and as women have more 'specific' tastes they are considerable chunk of those visits to that specific site. But your numbers are totally off too, you just do not understand what was even estimated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:30 PM
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Men will also be overwhelmingly the ones ... getting cosmetic surgeries Decade is way too optimistic considering its below 10% for now. Even reaching parity would be enormous change. men's fashion industry will become much larger than women's No, I don't believe in that at all. Women's fashion industry is over 2× larger than men’s globally. If there would be 0 men around, women would still keep spending on fashion industry. No shift in dating would cause such huge change. Women simply won't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:01 PM
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I guess it depends how you define common and really bad. But cosmetic surgery for men is still very far away for men to be considered as common. I remember I saw some statistics somwhere, that men do less than 10% of all cosmetic procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:42 PM

It's against the rules to accuse another commenter of lying or being dishonest. Or so they say. Where is that rule? Wanna go ahead and explain how this is misandry and not the direct work of conservative religious nuts? My brain? My education? I'm not even Christian, I'm atheist, and even I know that circumcision is not religious practice amongst Christians. Council of Jerusalem decided that circumcision is NOT required for Gentile (non-Jewish) Christians. That was like 15-20 years after Christ …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:37 AM

Lies painting such huge amount of men as child sex-slave owners is ok in your book? Can I say this about women? Would you also find it "save the children" campaign?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:02 PM

Go to r/MensRights and tell me that every other post isn't about women and feminists, and actual mens rights issue. I'm seriously confused now. This is what you said. I said that random (first I found) post I opened there seems to be mens rights issue. Now you answer with that. English is my third language, I see no connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:19 PM

What part of my comment does it prove wrong? Could you please be more precise? You are surprised that most men's rights issues have connection with women? I'm shocked. I had no idea that genders include women too. I just go from top down and I see nothing that would invalidate anything I said. You are surprised that first topic discusses how feminists lies caused problems to men? How is it not mens rights issue? Did you even read any of it? Moore and Kutcher began researching the issue further, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:44 PM

Women tend to spend more than they earn. It's just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:37 PM
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You bring no new arguments into discussion. It's exactly the same issue that we are discussing. Just re-framed. Does not invalidate anything said in this thread.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 03:12 PM

Makeup is small. It's clothes. Especially if you live in north. Women have more winter boots than I have underwear. For some reason I think having around 10 pairs is enough. I just buy new and replace as needed. She has like 20 pairs of boots gathered throughout the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:28 PM
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Outside of circumcision I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to. Yes, and also draft. Men have no right for their body. Do you have any examples? I'm sorry you're bringing up issues I've never come into contact with. Its wide-spread and visible in schools when you went to one. It was same when I went to school. It is one of the causes why education gap is as bad as it is, and it's getting worse. If you really wish, you can learn more from here for example: https://academic.oup.com/esr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:26 PM
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Lot of those videos have quite huge female audience https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202207/who-likes-violent-porn-new-research-upends-expectations/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn/ https://www.psypost.org/new-study-sheds-light-on-womens-attraction-to-aggression-in-pornography/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 01:53 PM
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I agree in terms of things like family court and some divorce stuff. Well yes, but having no control over owns body is uniquely male issue. At least in most of developed world and as I understand even in most of US. Being discriminated in education is also male issue, but of course its impossible to put under systemic as biases are most probably cultural. Being discriminated in healthcare is easier to prove, but thats just how money is spent, not written in law, so as English is my third languag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:35 PM

Women spend more on stuff, because they just need more stuff. This is just my experience of course. I don't mind it, its normal part of life. Just open random closet and look. My wife always had like 80% of closet space. Maybe we are exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:23 PM
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I never said government-mandated girlfriends. That's an incel thing That's not even incel thing. That's feminist thing who use it to vilify one group they set under umbrella of manosphere to generate guilt by association to vilify MRA's. Even when there is no overlap between those groups except that they mostly contain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:04 AM
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A lot of MRAs just attack women Thats only because for a lot of women disagreement is considered attack. As is proving you wrong. feminism is causing systemic misandry. It's not sole cause, but it has observable impact. Like when any men issue is discussed, feminists gather and yell it down. Or like how they do their best to vilify and derail any discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:02 AM

It decreases my standard of living. I speak about me, my personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:44 AM

I can't agree with that at all. I literally went through those spaces to understand what those words mean. I wrote it down for myself so I know wtf are people blabbering about when they mention those terms. Manosphere is just umbrella term, its like part of internet where mostly men discuss stuff. No other connection (or in some cases there is overlap) between those areas. This is what I wrote down for myself: MRA's care about things like family law, schools, or healthcare, and argue mostly for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:41 AM
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In what world Quite big chunk of the world. Mostly of course countries that are considered backwards. Like US where over 100 little boys are killed every year because someone did not like how their penis looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:35 AM
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I personally don't agree with conversations on misandry simply because the effects are so different from misogyny. I don't think they're close enough to be comparable. You are correct in here, except not in a way you think of. Misandry is normalized and systemic in western society. It exists and is easy to prove. Misogyny is barely existing, heavily shunned, and fight against it is dis-proportionally well funded. It has gone so bad that just to continue receiving money certain interest groups ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:32 AM
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If he thinks only men should have rights You know how rare it is in western society 2026? I have literally never met one such person in real life. Even online it seems to be mostly teenage edge-lords trolling old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:20 AM
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Those things you point out are quite irrelevant noise compared to real problems men face. That male loneliness is not what you think it is. Also, men handle it extremely well, we have been doing it for long time. Just some permanently online crazy people have twisted for their use to put down men. As egalitarian man, I do not believe that anyone should be canceled (and in this context I mean his/her livelihood endangered by getting him fired from job or such actions). Not even craziest man-hatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:16 AM

Too much philosophy for me. I just want clarity in definitions. I'm already tired feminists redefining every concept into nothingness. I don't want men doing it. Lets make somewhat clear definitions and stick to those. English is my third language, its so freaking hard to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:14 AM

Of course, this is how adult people are supposed to act. I'm brave enough to say that most people my age take positive approach. When there is no connection, just act like adult and communicate. Goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:11 AM
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Do you mean 'feminism' as a whole, or are we dividing it into waves as is usually done? Thats dishonest grouping. Honest grouping would be dividing feminists by their core tenets. Feminism as umbrella term has so many core tenets that it's impossible to adopt all of those as single person, so of course they have thousands of splinters. Still, they tend to have some overlap amongst most of them. Like patriarchy theory (only some academic feminists are moving away from that flawed concept) and int…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 08:16 AM
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Black pill are resigned to never having relationships and he searches for marriage. He is just confused young man who does not understand those concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:07 AM
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Lol this isn't the 90s. So back when my children were born. The vast majority of couples are dual income. Was same back in 90s, also 80s and 70s. I'm not from US The vast majority of couples deposit their money into a joint bank account and pay their bills from there. Maybe in US. I have never even heard about joint bank accounts. The vast majority of people cannot afford life on a singular income. Yes, not even in filthy rich US. In poorer countries its even more obvious. What's your point? It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:05 AM
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He is mislabeling himself then. He is not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:00 AM
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dont become feminist and start mangling every single concept Please lets keep at least some definitions intact for longer than three days. It gets annoying for non-native speakers when I have to learn new English language every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:57 AM
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Problem is redpill promotes men being man whores. No, they promote improving themselves to become man-whores. There is difference. This is not attractive to high quality conservative women. Man-whores in general do not care if women they whore around with are high quality or conservative, bump and dump won't leave much time for political discussions Most of the stuff you listed is shallow and you don't seem to really care about the quality of women you attract. He literally labeled himself as "r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:55 AM
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Because for men in here they are only looking for sex. No. Because her money is her money and I get no benefits from her money. Why would I care about something that does not affect me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:48 AM
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Social skills are not personality. Social skills can be learned and modified. Personality can be hidden for some time, but it always comes out after some time. Hating all men is personality Hiding it everywhere except when anonymous in internet is social skill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:47 AM
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Im very picky about who I form relationship with, maybe it have caused some hurt feelings. But nobody is entitled to me, I have right to have preferences. I don't consider it being evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:04 AM
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It's impossible to define good or evil in this conctext. I do not take any shit from anybody, I'm adult and I know what I want, I don't play games. I would not say that having clear boundaries are evil. I think think I have empathy and I do not treat anybody poorly. I don't do it in general, not just in dating world. Also I don't sleep around, so I don't have much experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:32 AM
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I never said that there are humans devoid of emotions. You did not read that sentence well enough to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:00 PM
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These days I rarely engage with these types anymore. You are in very wrong place then. This sub is all about debating. I've found that it's not worth it as "red pilled" men are extremely unlikely to change their minds, especially by a woman. The mentality is cultish to an extreme degree, the views are detached from reality, I have found same true about feminists. Thankfully I'm not red pilled and not even part of any movement you love to label under 'manosphere' umbrella. I'm just me, and I'm al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:39 PM
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Of course my woes are my own. You have never avoided blaming most of the men for the actions of tiny fraction. Why would it bother me when you continued to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:32 PM
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Then should we allow fictional visual porn too? I mean VISA and Mastercard went after porn games very hard, literally made buying it illegal even in countries where its totally legal. Also Hentai has had this problem for years. Seems like nasty double-standard for me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:54 PM
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Yes true. It's well known that most of the demand for violent porn comes from women. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202207/who-likes-violent-porn-new-research-upends-expectations/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:50 PM
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Haunting Adeline — H.D. Carlton - SA and stalking Captive in the Dark — C.J. Roberts - kidnapping and Stockholm syndrome Tears of Tess — Pepper Winters - trafficking and abuse Butcher & Blackbird — Brynne Weaver - serial killers porn Still Beating — Jennifer Hartmann - trauma bonding after extreme violence
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:29 PM
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We have never denied it. This is how we have always lived. You just never noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:24 PM
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When you see something misogynistic, you can debate it and prove them wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:56 PM
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There are millions of chads all around the world. Your examples are much rarer. They are like chads of chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:38 PM
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If you and other men are solely responsible for society snd the way it currently is Yes, we men who currently live and great men who built it before us, are responsible for richest, safest, most equal and best by any metrics society that there has ever been. Saying otherwise is just being blind and uneducated. Just check out how bad things were historically. Life today in western society is better than it has ever been for regular person. Even medieval nobility or Ancient Roman aristocrats had i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:56 PM
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Pretty privilege is a thing for both men and women. I would even argue that men have more gains from pretty privilege. Pretty men get life on easy mode. I grew up ugly and useless. When my long term relationship broke down and I got freedom at age 46, I suddenly discovered I have enormous pretty privilege that did not exist when I was in my 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:51 PM
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You did not have sources that had any meaning. Link me to that subthread where you posted sources that were disregarded, I'm sure people gave you reason why your sources were disregarded, I always say why I disregard your source if I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:18 PM
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I did not go too deep. I pretty much put most common words you can imagine. Found nothing. You can easily still buy books describing much more vile acts in Amazon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 12:17 PM
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Thats just bunch of lies based on very limited experience and no analysis of raw data. You can't claim that without sources. Not even about Americans. Or about this subreddit (or any other). Everyone has right to have preferences as long as they accept consequences. Nobody has right to deny your preferences. You can't force anyone to be attracted to anyone. This is not how life works and vast majority of people would agree with me. At least people who I have interacted with. And no, I will not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:13 AM
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as i understand the side is mostly a generic porn site with more kink videos I did check it out, it has very low quality and mundane porn videos mostly. Actually lot of those were stolen from mainstream sites.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:49 AM
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than the fact that such websites exist" Interesting how they are against porn sites that mostly contain very mundane stuff, yes even that motherless is actually quite bad and low quality. I did check it out "for science" as I was not aware of it, most of my "science" is done on more mainstream sites. Same time they defend smut books in amazon that are mainstream and literally contain fully illegal porn. Like pdf - file porn is so common there. Not to say actual SA and abuse that you would have h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:32 AM
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Its just lie. Visit your local hospital and take a look (if they let you) who works there. I have been part of team writing IT systems for big hospitals, and I have actually visited and trained their employees. In my country its mostly men who do that kind of work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:28 AM
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You should also consider that 62 million views traffic does contain bot traffic and click farming. Bots generate more traffic than average person and analytics is based on estimates and does not split off bot traffic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:26 AM
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62 million was the number of men on Motherless Not men, not users, not even people, Its not measured traffic, its estimated, including bots, including men and women and non-binary or any other stuff you want. No need to help them out by giving false assumptions. One bot can generate enormous amount of traffic. Even one person can generate high level traffic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:25 AM
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62 million was the number of men on Motherless You are not entirely correct with that claim either. Why? It was not just motherless, some other sites too they looked at analytics data about traffic. Traffic are not people, everthing rises this count. One person can generate a lot of traffic. They estimate traffic indirectly using multiple data sources. It causes huge error margins. This claim is dishonest at best and probably just made to generate outrage with lie. Also such estimates include bo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:22 AM
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I wasnt speaking about post. I was speaking about top level comments. Thats where circlejerk is. Supposed to be debate. Maybe rules are differently numbered in old.reddit. I see it as 9 under core rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:09 PM
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9) Top Level Comments in Debate/Q4X threads must be appropriate Its flagged as Debate, you are supposed to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:32 PM
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It does break rule 9 a lot. I tried to look for debate, but there are mostly agreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:05 PM
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You have very wrong perception what manosphere even is. No, its not emotional, its mostly extremely logical and based on facts. I know I checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:38 PM
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Why do you think that using word EQ is somewhat not allowed? You can use it. I dont mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:24 PM
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Your claim can't be true because that so called "manosphere" may contain some "not true" info, but thats same for every single place in internet. All places contain "not true" info and "true" info. Even this thread here. Percentage of truth in manosphere is probably higher than percentage of truth in womansphere. Emotions don't play well with facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:05 PM
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Your claim can't be true. That's just logic. There are many things in manosphere that are true provable facts. I did check it out, I found true claims there. Actually its womensphere where most lies live and facts die.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:30 AM
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And why is it bad? What would it change for society at large?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:00 AM
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You seem to have been done your research. Please give me example of TRP space where a person is mostly exposed to opinions that reinforce what they already believe, while opposing views are filtered out or discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:57 AM
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You seem to be confusing opinions and facts with hate. Hate is quite rare, yes even in those spaces you love to call manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:55 AM
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how come there is a manosphere and not a womansphere? Its just stupid semantics from them. They try to generate guilt by association, pushing together groups where only shared thing is that most people in these online spots are men. They just use it as derogatory term to put down men, it has lost all the meaning sadly. Basically we don't even need word womansphere, as whole internet is womansphere and couple of exceptions won't change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:47 AM
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they will interpret their experiences through a manosphere lens It can't exist. What you call manosphere contains too many different ideas to have any kind of lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:42 AM
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So if you go online in male dominated spaces how common is it to see anti female content? Never. It's probably just because you define "anti female content" as "something I don't agree with" Male dominated spaces mostly concentrate on issues at hand (like some hobby for what it was created for), so content about women does not really exist. There are some women usually involved, but I dont think of them as "content". Or are you speaking about some very niche, very specific "male dominated space"…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:38 AM

And same time when we point out very violent books that present women as sex objects and Im generous here, some smut sold in Amazon is unhinged, any kind of illegal stuff you want, its there. "but its art", why movies and games are not art but smut books are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:35 AM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:43 AM
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It has not changed at all. Less than month ago I was down voted and spammed to death with extremely unhinged and silly takes when I said that I would not date trans woman and I can always tell when it's trans woman. Also when I mention that I only date slim women, I get same treatment online. In real life it has always been different, before 2012 and now too, nobody tells to my face that I'm not supposed to have preferences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 06:10 AM

Or even just 0, I agree with that. It already has impact, and that impact will grow worse soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:56 PM

Here we have 100% agreement, all your examples are valid and true. People who are easy to replace should worry, and should think forward about their jobs. Nobody else will help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:48 PM

All I hear all the time is that ai will take most jobs. I work in AI right now. It's possible, but much further away than those people think. Also, it will probably just do shift, take away jobs and generate other jobs. There are very few jobs that current LLMs can actually do, usually ones where there is not much responsibility, no accountability and its ok if ca 20% of results are utter garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:10 PM
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EQ does not exist. Emotional intelligence is very problematic concept, so problematic that there is even no good definition for it, there are serious issues with measuring it and its impossible to replicate research to get consistent results.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:56 PM
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No, its other way around. Heteronormative people are least manipulative in such situations. Gay man are actually worst, but lesbians are not that far away. Of course all of this is based on my extensive life experience. It's probably different in different cultures, but not much, except in cultures where just being gay would get you executed so you have to hide it 24/7 and can not manipulate openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:08 AM
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Some women are good at math; Yes some woman have EQ No. Sorry, it was sarcasm, I'm well aware that EQ does not exist, it's just cope by low-IQ people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:06 AM
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No, we should not waste resources on problem without even knowing if problem exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 10:05 AM
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In your brain? Because you speak no English and can't understand what basic sentences mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 10:04 AM
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Its not normalised for men. Other way, its very normalised for women, has always been, I remember things you describe as rapey behavior from 40 years ago, by women, daily. It still happens. I can't say all women, but significant percentage. Over 90% for sure as you have included "psychologically or emotionally manipulating them", thats default MO for most women. I say 90% only because I can't say all, but I have never met woman who does not constantly manipulate someone to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:31 PM
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Thats nice, but then there is enormous amount of women who very casually do rapey behaviour and everybody just ignores it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:07 PM
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Thats bit dishonest. Women are famous for their mystical EQ ability and mindreading. I can't say that I'm always correct, but I can recognize violent men mostly. This is how you stay alive in bad neighbourhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:05 PM
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Only when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:50 PM
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Because there was a study quoted the other day that showed 95% of men agree they have engaged in rapey behaviours such as repeatedly asking until a no changes to a yes, or getting a girl drunk to try and have sex with her. No, that's not what was studied. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605261432630 Here is the study. What part of it you based your claim on? Also define "rapey behaviours" before you use such loaded term and muddle down actual sexual assaults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:36 PM
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They don't have to. There is nothing you can do about it and they can keep discussing what they want. Just like you can't force car-model collectors to denounce drunk drivers. It's irrelevant for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:27 PM
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Nobody is surprised that vast majority of violent crimes are committed by men. It does not take anything away from OP source. It's still minority of men who commit those acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:25 PM
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Why should they? Its not for what they exist. Its almost as silly as if you would be mad at car-model collectors for not calling out drunk drivers. It's just irrelevant to their cause. Not every grouping has to take stance about every issue. Especially if those groups have very specific reasons to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:15 PM
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And you say that such men are not called out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:07 PM
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Is that truly your stance on all topic or only when its about things you dislike? This is my stance with everything. You must prioritize, or nothing gets done. Your own example of climate change is one of such issues that badly needs resources. There is not enough resources to concentrate on imaginary problems where tools for solutions already exist. Yet you mostly focus on feminism. Strange. I did not focus on feminism. I focused on topic of femicide. This is how discussions work. You are suppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 02:19 PM
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You do realize you made it seem like they’re tired of terrible men being called out. What does terrible in this context even mean? If you speak about convicted violent criminals, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:49 PM
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For example? because if this is that common, you should be giving me a plethora of examples. You are example, right in this comment (and post) you made and where I answered. You called it out. You can find more. Women are more likely to take plea deals. Source? Most criminal cases (90%+) end in plea deals for both sexes. Evidence on gender difference is weak. Women are actually less likely to be charged at all. I could not find data to prove (or disprove) that taking plea deals is reason. As you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:46 PM
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fact men were more likely to commit crime regardless of background in comparison to their female counterpart. That's almost true. Except bit dishonest and irrelevant to topic at hand. Whole mainstream society constantly call out men about every fault men have, including crime statistics. Just like you just did. You of course act like you always do and just ignore everything I say, or answer with some irrelevant question. https://academic.oup.com/aler/article-abstract/17/1/127/212179 https://repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:16 PM
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There is no need for them to do that when mainstream society as whole already does it every moment of every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:05 PM
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I am wondering what exactly you are trying to do. Find out source of data for sex-based murder of women. Could not find it. Probably because I'm just failing. Maybe someone else can find. One of the problems is, that no data is gathered. It is proof that we are not aware of it. This alone is concerning. Exactly what I said. Governments do not gather data about issue, but already implement solutions. They don't even know if problem exists, what is the root cause or how to solve it. But they alrea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 10:41 AM
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it just isn’t widespread If you removed this claim, I would agree with you 100%. It is widespread, as apps are widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:50 AM
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Most men are benevolent and love women. It's biologically hard-wired. That's reason why they give away power, out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:46 AM
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Disclaimer to mods: I have no idea if it should be as top comment or under automod as I agree with some points and disagree with some points. I try to keep it concentrated on 'disagree' parts. Comment starts here: I think you have bit limited knowledge about past and you concentrate on either very limited geographical area, or limited socioeconomic class sample, or limited cultural sample, or some time that is very far in past, or some combination of those. Such claims do not translate well into…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:37 AM
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Its still problematic. I tried to work through data sets and there is literally nothing I could find about absolute numbers of gender related homicides. Everything I found is just adjacent. It seems that almost no country even gathers data in such way to make any normal conclusions. Interestingly most was available from EU. But even then its all about domestic homicides not about gender based homicide. It's really hard to draw any conclusions based on available data. https://ec.europa.eu/eurosta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 08:08 AM
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Because its discrimination based on sex? Clear example of systemic oppression of men? Clear example that patriarchy not only doesn't exist, but can't exist? Those laws literally destroy most feminist talking points they use to suppress and oppress men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:25 AM
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Femicide laws have actually done a lot of good to curb violence against women as it was deeply ingrained in our culture to the point that it was not only normalized but, in some cases, expected (some women used to believe, if he doesn't hit her then he must be cheating). I'm sorry but I don't believe you. It sounds insane. I come from country that has millenia old equality tradition between sexes. Women and men never had such stark inequality as was produced by patriarchical religious opression …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:18 AM
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Sex-based violence against women should be punished more severely than non-sex-based violence. Is there any information gathered, anywhere in the world, how prelevant sex-based murder of women even is. Actually just coherent definition of femicide would be good start. You already confused me by bringing up violence. I thought femicide comes from word homicide (Homicide is defined as the intentional killing of a person). So I thought femicide is subset of that but done on female (femi-). Violence…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:08 AM
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Its just example of systemic misandry. Use it as example and ask from feminists for example of systemic misogyny. They have zero examples for you, as there is no law or regulation that discriminates women in western world. This is especially good example to show them that even what they call "patriarchical" societies discriminate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:03 AM
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Women don’t believe in the male loneliness epidemic. People like you keep complaining that women are not monolith. Yet you come with such absolute terms? Women are main pushers of concept of male loneliness epidemic. This is to distract from fact that its not epidemic, and that men function well without women. Same time internet is full of women complaining about not getting any relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:58 AM
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You are correct, but... Yes it does not exist as defined by those women. Yes, it even can't exist. Yes, women still try to enforce something that can't exist and then cry when they do not succeed.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/04/26 09:02 AM
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Do they even know what misogyny is They literally do not know. There are so many definitions now that they themself lost track.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/04/26 08:58 AM
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Thats probably because you and OP define toxic differently. It's ok too, different people find different traits they consider toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:02 AM
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There’s this narrative that girls ONLY like assholes but it’s just not true. There is no such narrative. Notice that capitalized 'ONLY' part, that disqualifies your claim. And I don't say that it 'never' happens, as that would be stupid too. I just say that if it exists, its extremely rare and vast majority of men would never make such absolute claim when it's very easy to debunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:46 AM
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though men here balk at that suggestion Most of them don't. We know women struggle attracting man they want to be in relationship with. That's why whole premise of 'female loneliness epidemic' exists and why women push that imaginary 'male loneliness epidemic' lie so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:41 AM
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Nice goal post move as I never said accumulation didnt play any role in any number we are looking at. Then you made dishonest argument. I quote what you said: Men past a certain age are significantly more likely to cheat than younger men Ok, lets agree that it's my interpretation and I was wrong. But how do you qualify word significantly then? but they are easily google-able. Good, link one for me then please. I failed. And I specifically want source that shows data what you claimed. A spike tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:48 PM
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So did you. You claimed but provided no proof. Such information is quite hard to find. Age breakdowns for short-term cheating are not commonly published. What we can see is that annual cheating rates are low compared to lifetime rates. This alone proves accumulation plays a role. Its just basic math and deduction. This makes your claim that 'Men past a certain age are significantly more likely to cheat than younger men.' quite suspect. Do you have source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:29 PM
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Most comments under this post are just bunch of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:02 AM
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Most people initiate divorce on shitty partners Thats emotion, impossible to prove or disprove. What do you base that statement on?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:59 AM
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It's not 'broader spectrum', its actually just 'less quantity of deal-breakers' and even those can be thrown out. I have just 3 hard requirements for relationship to women. Women my age usually have more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:54 AM
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Those are different kind of relationships. Vast majority of men do not have enough income/money/status to afford sugar-baby or trophy-wife. I do not count paying to sex-workers as relationship in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:53 AM
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Men's likelihood of cheating has a much sharper incline as they age comparatively As I wrote to you before. You have to consider cumulative cheating vs short term cheating. Correct thing to say would be: "Men’s reported lifetime infidelity increases more with age than women’s, leading to a larger gender gap in older groups, though short-term cheating rates are less different." This effect is driven more by accumulation and life patterns than a simple age-based increase in behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:51 AM
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Men past a certain age are significantly more likely to cheat than younger men. You misinterpret that data. You do not consider time dimension. Young men cheat at similar short-term rates. Older men report higher lifetime (cumulative) infidelity rates. The increase with age is not because older men suddenly become more prone to cheat, but because older men have had more years (more opportunities) to cheat. many older women who have been left my their partner for a younger woman. This statement i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:47 AM
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You are incredibly condescending, do you know that? So are you. Do you know that? And yes, I was aware of amount of passive/agressive in my answer. It was not much, and it was quite warranted considering level of knowledge shown by person posting that comment. You criticise people for being ignorant while bringing no insight to the conversation. Ok, let me continue to be condescending, because thats only thing that seems to be capable of getting through to you. So I ask question. Did you even re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/26 06:35 AM
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When I lose patience I just take break.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 07:20 PM
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No big deal, can happen to anyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 07:20 PM
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No they don't. Most people here argue with bad faith arguments, just to manipulate, mislead and win. Even when they have nothing to back themselves up. For me its just entertainment, I will not self-censor myself. When mods shut me up, I guess its time to go. I do try to follow rules. I guess I have not broke anything too much yet. Mostly its just dishonest gaslighting to derail discussion. Usually they don't even read what you write. They ask for source, when you send one, they ignore it, derai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 05:44 PM
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"Men spend time defending adult people right to be adult." literally means what is written So you think that an 18yr old who is either still in highschool or just finished has the same maturity as a 35yr old? How did you reach such conclusion? I wrote nothing about maturity or even dating. I explained what I have seen in reddit threads, a lot of it even here. Every age-gap topic has basically same comments. Say something new instead. What is your proposed solution then? Why is it so important to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:30 PM
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Why you say something as stupid as that? Please point exactly to part of my answer that made you think like that. I will fix that part. English is my third language and maybe I made mistake somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:21 PM
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I've thought age gap relationships were gross ever sice I was 17. You have your right to think what you want about age gap relationships. And those men who are able to have age gap relationships also have right to do what they want as long as they don't break law. Except in US of course, where they can do whatever they want, even if it breaks law.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:15 PM
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Youre focusing on outliers. Its you who is focusing on outliers, your whole post is literally about outliers. And now you are surprised that answers to you are also about outliers? That's rich. You try to create problem out of something that barely exists and gets disproportionate attention in internet. Its just ragebait and distraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:12 PM
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Men spend so much time defending weird age gap relationships No they don't. Men spend time defending adult people right to be adult. Concept so hard to grasp for some people. do you see many 18yr olds dating guys in their mid to late 30's? Exactly, this is reason why men have been telling you for years that why you cry so much about it. Yes, we know Leonardo keeps getting young girls, well there aren't many men like him. Why has it been made existential societal problem? Its so rare, still makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:07 PM
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it describes a very specific kind of people of the modern far right / us fascists No it does not. Its nothing about US, nothing about right or left (most of you have no idea what right/left means anyway), and it does not have anything to do with fascists (again, most of you can't define fascism anyway). It is another term that just has changed to mean 'I do not agree with you' like many other terms. that use extremly hostile and shortened 'discourse' / scapegoating to feed men antisocial behavio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 06:40 AM
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People with DT traits are by definition manipulative. They are very bad at it. Because they are lazy, they don't need to hide it as they get rewarded for showing it. Do you have an example? I gave you example. Go out for date, go to restaurant/bar/coffee shop and look how he/she interacts with workers there. It comes out really fast. Also, just listen when they speak about things. What he/she finds funny is also good indication, if disrespecting other people makes them happy and is amusing, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:27 AM
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Thats just empty word salad. I asked for examples. You must provide those in form of peer-reviewed studies that have working methodology and show that they understand basic scientific method 101 by not changing definitions and cherry-picking data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:22 AM
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I have not received any examples. Give me link.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:21 AM
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So no examples then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:39 AM
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Women learning to be cautious is not the same as blaming you. I never said that. Im quite sure there is ovelap, but saying something so definitive is just outright stupid. So many men here say women should learn responsibility for choosing bad men Yes they should. Your choices have consequences. You should take responsibility for your actions. So do I, and everyone else. Once is accident, twice is coincidence, thrice is pattern - that's on you now, especially if you keep going back to those toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:37 AM
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Online backlash is toothless, just ignore it. Everyone has right to have preferences, most men know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:31 AM
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So do men. Still we find that in nonreciprocally violent relationships women commit 70% of assaults. I guess its for preemptive self defense then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:31 AM
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Isn’t that the double standard that men try to keep women in? Even if it is double standard (and Im not arguing that it's not) there is nothing men can do to keep women in it. Women are independent entities and make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:25 AM
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I see. Interesting take. So you are assuming that women can only abuse men in self-defense or retaliation? Any source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:22 AM
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So no examples then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:21 AM
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No one is responsible for another persons actions. Thats very good and refreshing take. I agree 100%. Especially when I get blamed for actions of 0.0001% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:20 AM
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Better to tell men to behave themselves Men who would listen, already behave well. Men who would need to behave just ignore such noise anyway. It does not affect their lives or success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:16 AM
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I don't know what method he uses, but I can tell very fast. I may meet him first time and I don't even need to communicate to see first red flags. Yes, it does not work 100% just like that, some people are better than others at hiding it. But, bad people talk themself in, very fast. Just observe how they act and speak. Just take a look how they handle interactions with people they consider below them. Works with both, men and women. Bad people are bad at hiding it. It's visible and they tell you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:53 AM
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About half of abusive relationships are reciprocally violent. So yes, considerable chunk of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:43 AM
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I wrote this very sleepy ok It's ok, I just gave suggestion, I can't make you do it. I just told you that it was hard to read. english ain't my first language (obviously) That has not been hindrance for me, I learned a lot. English is my third language, so I can't judge others by it anyway. I answered the question about what laws currently opress us WHILE agreeing that this law is sus Well, I asked that other person about laws that she claimed discrimante women worse than this proposed law in Br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 07:51 AM
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Change class to any other relevant word then. It's just good indicator that you have bought into narratives that global elites push to distract people from real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:19 PM
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Yes, this is what was written. I'm sure you can read and understand. Its very short.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:18 PM
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Well there are so many definitions. Sometimes it seems to me that almost every feminist has their own and when I tell them some definition I found from some other feminist, they for some reason tend to disagree. Like for example, go to AskFeminists/wiki/ and look how they define it: The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. Do you subscribe to that definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:17 PM
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Wasn't I clear enough? I'm sorry English is my third language, so I'm not always as clear as I would love to. I'm telling that patriarchy as most commonly defined by feminists can't exist. It's impossible. I'm not sure what definition of patriarchy you subscribe to, as there are so many. So, I can not answer your question if I deny existence of your interpretation of patriarchy as concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:43 PM
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I would think dating as you get older is harder mainly because people have more adult obligations and non-social routines, so it’s harder to actually find single people. Mostly correct, I mean if you concentrate to young people (yes for me 30 is young). Interestingly enough dating 50+ is much easier. Of course its personal experience, not based on any study or statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:28 AM
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You should really check out what word class means. It already has working and functional definition and there is zero need to reframe it to something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:22 AM
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Divorce and custody laws are now gender neutral. There are laws that discriminate men, there are no laws that discriminate women. Today, 2026 in western society. Not 50 years ago, not middle east. That's already big enough issue. The only legitimate issue I see left is the draft. It's not always about how law is worded, it's more about how law is implemented, how money is spent and how society has skewed results to harm men. No bodily autonomy protection 93% of fatal occupational injuries are me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:04 AM
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This has never happened to men. There has never been a time or place where being “female” made you more privileged than being “male” 2026, whole western world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:49 AM
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Pretending patriarchies were never a thing is not going to convince women to side with you. Lot of women know that patriarchy as defined by feminists can not exist. Even some feminists know that, at least academic feminists. Lately they have been doing their best to move away from such undefendable concept. Of course pop-corn feminists do not listen to them, and they are vast majority so they set mainstream discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:47 AM
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Please do not post such walls of text. Just leave empty row between paragraphs, its really hard to read your comment. not letting us walk shirtless (boobs are not genitals and should be normalized; it's also hot here so that sucks) That's not 'oppressing women to much worse degrees' - do you go to jail for 5 years? not letting us abort LITERAL EMBRYOS Do they put you to jail for 5 years? How many women are in jail today for aborting literal embryos? I'm not aware of any country where men have ri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 08:37 AM
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In the United States, which is supposed to be seen as one of the most egalitarian and free countries By yourself. I'm European, you can call me whatever you want but I have never seen you as free country. Chaotic and backwards, yes. Free, nop. Too much corporate and religious influence to be called free country. Your freedom of speech is joke, your work-laws suck, your customer protection sucks. marital rape, didn’t become illegal in all 50 states until the 90s. We are speaking about 2026, stop …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 08:09 AM
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Men actually get fatter than women do after getting married. That study does not support your claim. Thats all we need. So don't use it as source.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:52 PM
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Yes you did, and I refuse to let you do it. There is no need to reach any other conclusion. You can claim what you want, just don't use study as proof when it does not support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:35 PM
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Gone is the time of fighting in trenches They do fight in trenches, right now. soldiers don't need to carry 200 lbs bags Still happens, not 200lbs, but neither did they carry such heavy bags back then. manipulate 2-handed swords is surprisingly light actually. Modern day gear is heavier. Rifle is heavier than 2-handed sword, I assume sword is more taxing to handle as you swing it around. Women can do frontline fighting in this modern world. They can and should do, but thats irrelevant. Relevant …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 10:33 PM
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Given that the laws have been (and in many countries) still are oppressing women to much worse degrees Please give us some examples of those laws in many countries? Islamic countries do not count. Would prefer examples from Brazil if possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 10:26 PM
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What’s the problem with the study coming from Poland? Nothing. Just sets some geographical limits. Why you avoided my main point? That this study does not support your claim? This study shows correlation between marital status and weight, it did not even measure same people. It just compared married men to unmarried men and married women to unmarried women. Based on that study you can't claim that: 'Men actually get fatter than women do after getting married.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:11 PM
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Men actually get fatter than women do after getting married. Apparently it’s a 62% higher risk of becoming overweight for men, vs a 39% risk for women. That's one study (of 2400 people aged ca 50) in Poland. Also you can't claim that men actually get fatter than women do after getting married as this is not what was studied. Married people were compared and measured against not married people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:49 PM
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I hate the lies that doctors spread in the US, saying that "it's better for hygiene" I just ask them: "How many children are you ready to kill, so you could avoid teaching your children to shower". That did even shut up self proclaimed "dick phd".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:17 PM
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I'm not aware of the numbers from doctors. In US, its over 100 every year. Just because they want to. I live in a country where circumcision isn't common for religious purposes So do I, I'm from Europe he won't cut shit Tell him not to, or at least delay for as long as possible. Its also better for you. I'm over 50. I had to have it done (medical reasons) when I was 40 and father of 3. So you can believe me when I tell that difference for me was enormous. Sex enjoyment is much more muted. Also, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:04 PM
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Think how many little boys die every year because of that barbaric practice. Even at the hands of doctors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:34 PM
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I think my bad English skill caused my message to not come through. I'm literally speaking about both, not one or another. Over 100 little boys are killed every year in US because of failed male genital mutilation. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths Baby boys can and do succumb as a result of having their foreskin removed. Circumcision-related mortality rates are not known with certainty; this study estimates the scal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:29 PM
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I guess it depends how you define "dating". I find it pointless to argue about semantics really, for me "dating" does not mean "first date" notice different endings? one ends with -ing and another with -e English is my third language and I'm really bad at it, so maybe I'm wrong and dating does not mean something that happens regularly. For me when someone says dating it means that those two persons are seeing eachother and forming some kind of close relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:22 PM
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Why? Its not like you change your opinion. Information has been available for long time and is not hidden. It just gets ignored. Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:17 PM
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I’m convinced HAS to cause trauma Killing someone is worse than trauma. Every year over 100 little boys are killed because of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 02:05 PM
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This freedom has almost always been morally judged Yes it has, but men still did it. Now its easier for sure, social stigma still exists but its easier to ignore. Men have many more 'lone wolf' types compared to women, always had.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:12 AM
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This is strawmanning. Stop it. We are discussing it in context of relationships, where women do 70% of assaults. And if you mean gay relationships, those have lowest rates of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:11 AM
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By other men in non romantic contexts No. By their romantic partners. When will people like you stop pushing those lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:36 AM
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A lot of men are going their way for their own reasons, never even hearing of the term MGTOW. And such actions are way older than concept of MGTOW. Men has been doing it for millennia. Maybe not as often as today, but it has always existed. Men just function well alone compared to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:12 AM
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Its very complicated gaslighting. I'm over 50. It's not 'male loneliness epidemic' in some kind of negative sense. Its overblown, taken out of context and turned around 180 degrees to avoid discussing what really happens. They conveniently forget that men function well as single. Much better compared to being in bad relationship. There is even no need for data (but data exists too), just open your eyes and look around yourself. And its nothing new, it has always existed. It is same today as it w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:10 AM
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There is no such thing as patriarchy. Not even in Afganistan. I mean, it would be if we go by my definition, but Im nobody. Why it can't exist is very simple, nobody knows what it means, nobody can define it. If concept is not possible to define, it does not exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 07:33 AM
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They can't try it. There is nobody to enforce it. State violence is enforced by people, mostly men. There is reason for that. Western women are so lucky western men are so benevolent and love them so much. Otherwise whole world would be one big Afganistan, with curfew, to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 04:30 PM
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women are equally or even more violent in the context of relationships Even more, and its not even close. Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 03:41 PM
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It was argued already. Info is hard to find as google did serious purge of it from internet, because showing their intent so openly created enormous backlash. Some info still exists, just try to find international castration day
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 03:20 PM
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They have no idea how to define patriarchy. When I give them some definition (from other feminists), they usually argue that its not this.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/04/26 02:13 PM

core values to feminism There are so many, that to start you need to read about 200 books. More you read, less you know, more confused you get. like being against sexism Very few feminists are like that. They mostly just redefine what sexism means to suit their narrative and exclude men and boys. wanting equal rights between men and women Again, very rare. They mostly just redefine what equal is, what rights is and then ignore everything men say about it. Rarely men will identify themselves as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:29 PM

All those different feminisms have much more in common than for example 'manosphere' that they love to push under one umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:09 PM
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I don’t trust a lot of the studies You can stop right here. Lot of studies exist where when you look inside you see its not science. They like missed basic scientific method 101 course. They redefine things to suit them, cherry-pick data, ignore everything that goes against their intent etc etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 04:36 PM

Then you use wrong label. It won't work. Feminists have never been and never will treat men in fair way. There is just too much rot in that movement for it. Too many whose whole personality is only hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:00 PM

most testing is done for women to find out how it affects women. Don't stop there. Also read this part after it: 'most testing is done for women to find out how it affects women.' Women have less participation in first most dangerous step, but when you take whole testing process as whole, women tend to outnumber men as test subjects. Just not when its dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:50 AM

That's the problem with feminism as movement. It's too big, too incoherent, contains too many people with different goals and agendas. Its not as bad as "manosphere" where feminists throw together groups that have pretty much nothing in common (except sex), but its very bad movement. You can't un-cancel anything. Nobody has that power, all power in feminist movement is in hands of tiny but extremely loud minority. They define what feminism is. When you label yourself feminist, you agree with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:48 AM

No where does it state that the men are meeting the same standards as women for the same admission. There is nothing to admit. There is no such policy in admission of men to college or you would link to it. My linked article points out where you went wrong. Specifically this part: Report Highlights Only 10% of colleges favor men over women by more than 5% 48% of colleges favor women over men by more than 5% Universities that favor men are mostly liberal arts colleges Universities that favor wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:44 AM
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I add some to /u/Grow_peace_in_Bedlam list Women win 80%+ of custody battles, even in cases of abuse or neglect by the mother Men are jailed for non-payment of child support, but women face no consequences for paternity fraud Men receive 63% longer prison sentences for the same crimes compared to women. Women can abort a pregnancy at any time. Men have zero say, and even if they don’t want the child, they are still forced to pay child support. 93% of fatal occupational injuries are men girls rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:29 PM
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Thats not data, that just bunch of lies. Men get into college with lower scores, lower grades, and lower extras. Did you even read your own sources? The article relies on anecdotes from admissions staff and other irrelevant sources. It does not prove formal, system-wide policy favoring men. Here is better article explaining this topic: https://collegerealitycheck.com/men-vs-women-college-admission-statistics-report/ But women tend to have on average higher IQ than men. They don't, your source is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:59 PM
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There are different varities of feminism, you cannot lump all feminists together. There is enough overlap in ideas to generalize some of it. When you claim that patriarchy and/or manosphere exists you have no right to claim that we cannot lump all feminists together. feminist who wants everyone to be treated in a fair and just way. Then you can't be feminist, because actions matter, words are empty. Feminism at its core is female supremacy movement. Some sugarcoat is better, but end-goals are sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:33 PM
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"o you can change your mind when confronted with overwhelming evidence" It won't change your mind, but I promise I will change my mind about issues where you make sense and can provide proof. I have done it before. There was one feminist in reddit who I agreed with about some issues. If you had an open mind, you wouldn't sit here and claim we don't still live in a patriarchal society. I don't claim only that. I literally claim that we CAN'T live in patriarchal society. It's literal impossibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:33 PM
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But some small areas in some backwards country does not define western civilization in general. Also, every abortion is not healthcare. It can be, but that's very rare. Most abortions are done because of socioeconomic reasons. Much bigger problem for example is fact how male health research is underfunded compared to female health research. Or how men are used like guinea pigs to test new general treatments before women test subjects are included and still when all testing is done, most testing …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:02 PM
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I agree with most what you write here. But, you are not arguing with me. You are giving me examples. Those are true. Yes, we can never even come close to ideal equality. We still should have basic equality of opportunity. Like nobody should be discriminated because of their sex or skincolor or shape of nose, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:53 PM
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Feminism is pro equal rights - It is not pro equal rights. It's pro women rights. There is difference. For me, women's rights do not exist. Also, men's rights do not exist. I'm egalitarian, we all have human rights. as women are the subjugated class Women are not class. They are not subjugated more than same class men are. Poor people are subjugated class by rich people, this I agree with. But it seems like you yourself don't agree that things are unequal to start I agree with that. I just wrote…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:50 PM
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By this logic neither 'love' nor 'justice' nor 'gender' exist. Thats irrelevant. If you change definition of those to mean nothing, then yes it cant exist. Concepts can only exist when we agree what that concept even means. If its too wide, or too strict, it just can't exist. Disagree, but certainly it manifests differently today Thats the problem, it does not manifest at all, it can't. First to prove it exists you have to tell me what defintion of it you subscribe to. Go to AskFeminists/wiki/ a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:38 PM
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Nobody famous. Just someone I had healthy debate in reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:32 PM
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Be more specific. What part of healthcare? Women have access to healthcare, better access than men. At least they do not face societal pressure not to go to doctor when ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:31 PM
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Because it's about women having access to education, jobs, finances, etc. So if feminism is about "women having access to education, jobs, finances", they have that now. What is this "etc" part that is still missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:25 PM
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You mix up equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Equality of opportunity should exist. Equality of outcome can't exist, just won't work. You can smooth out differences a bit, but you would never achieve it, you would just shift inequalities to different areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:23 PM
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I guess you can't support an equal rights movement As an egalitarian, yes I can. I do not support any movements that are sexist, like feminism for example. I only support movements that are openly pro equal rights. if you don't agree that things are unequal in the first place. I have never met such people. Things have always been, are now and will always be unequal. Question is about definitions and what matters more. But many men will accept that patriarchy exists They are wrong then. Patriarch…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:21 PM
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Support feminism, not individual feminists who are toxic. It should be other way around. I would never support feminism. There is too much toxicity in it and even if its not monolithic movement, every subset of feminism has toxic component. There is one feminist that I can agree with about some of her talking points. I'm ok supporting her, rest of them have to prove themselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:13 PM
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I just made bad joke. But, if you think about it. No matter what claim we take, even if it is true, it just would make misogynists such a tiny subset of total men that it would be totally irrelevant. 5 such men in whole world can't change anything.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/26 11:29 AM
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No no. She is into something here. She just explains why misogyny and misogynists can't exist.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/26 10:45 AM
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the difference of 1+ hour is observed among those who are married. That's bad methodology then. They should actually only compare single people. Married people have emotional issue where women invent chores that "should" be done. This skews picture a lot. I trust my source more. I saw it after separation where I discovered that house-hold "chores" are very easy and take very short time. Women just say that "I did 4h chores, I did laundry". Laundry takes 10 minutes that you spend putting your stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:23 PM
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Where did you take your info from? I did quick search and found https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/american-time-use-survey-9621/2023-results-704446?page=2 the days they did household activities, women spent an average of 2.7 hours on these activities, while men spent 2.1 hours. (See table 1.) Thats difference of 36 minutes/day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:45 PM

That mechanism would be called socialisation. I'm not sure where you're getting this? Sex differences in risk-taking appear in very young children (before strong social conditioning). Also it appears with many non-human species with very different social systems. Some differences correlate with hormones (testosterone), kind of biological. Other mammals also exist in social groups and socialise I somewhat agree with you in sense that it's not only biological. But, I also never claimed that its on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:48 PM
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There are very few genes that are specific to either men or women. Then there has to be some other mechanism in play to explain reality we experience daily. A woman whose brother is a risk taker is also predisposed to be a risk taker, but women are much more heavily discouraged from taking risks from birth. In many mammals, males show higher risk-taking than females. This is well documented in behavioral ecology and comparative psychology. Seems to be biological. Humans follow a common mammalian…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:12 AM
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I'm statistical average and I have had gf who I had to be very careful with to not cause pain. Some women are more sensitive when you hit cervix and sometimes its surprisingly close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:39 AM

I'm also not arguing, I'm accepting your opinion and some of my experiences support your conclusion too. In summer the men oftentimes wear shirt sleeved shirts. And you still have 'temostat wars' going?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:08 AM

You just say it. Looking through this post and your answers, you clearly have no idea how huge privileges you have, compared to black men, and I won't even go to other races as it would cause enormous grief to me and I have no energy to go to that stupid "race war" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:21 AM

Its not something to argue about. I would never say that my personal experience invalidates yours. I accept your conclusion, I still think that office based 'termostat wars' would go away if men were allowed to wear normal summer clothes in there. Actually your experience validates my point, if it is true (and I have no reason to disbelieve, especially shower temperature is also my experience) then male dress code should be even more lenient and forced. I'm already chuckling thinking about all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:19 AM

The topic of my post was misogyny Because a lot of cases of men not acknowledging misogyny is caused by fact that a lot of women like you deny misandry even exists. Anyone with brain understands that those are two sides of same coin. Either both sides exist, or none. You not accepting answer, does not make it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:09 AM

misandry isn’t real That's because most of what we see as misandry is misogyny for you. Western societies operate on a “male disposability” model. Higher risk, higher obligation, lower protection, lower sympathy. This is systemic misandry, not individual prejudice. Following are just some examples of systemic misandry. I won't even touch cultural misandry as I'm sure you won't even read those issues I already listed. In Western countries, mothers receive primary custody ~65–85% of the time, depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:04 AM

leaning women leaning (towards) women in this context means that women have systemic and cultural advantages that men do not have. Of course English is my third language and I don't pretend I could not be wrong, but this is how I understand it from context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:57 AM

Nobody likes to be called something they are not. Especially when label you assign is so weakly defined that every one of you seem to have different meaning, that in the end collapses into 'I do not agree with you'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:55 AM

You are good example of 'privilege is invisible to those who have it'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:53 AM

I come from country with one of the lowest amount of religiosity, You know what keeps religion alive around here? Women, vast majority of believers are women and it's not even close. This was in such way 30 years ago (when I was young) and its same today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:51 AM

I disagree. when sexual reproduction rights are still precarious in some parts of the west Whole world has about 24 countries where abortion in all circumstances is prohibited. I'm sorry that you live in one of such shithole countries. It still not misogyny, it's not based on hatred of women. Religion is likely to be one of the major components behind total abortion bans worldwide. Western countries where abortion is banned are Andorra and San Marino. Malta also used to ban, but they made some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:43 AM

Never mind the rising violence against them Its not rising, its going down actually. Even feminist sources agree with that. Historical comparison is complicated because much older historical data are scarce and definitions of violence have been changed a lot, but indicators show decline of rate of violence against women specifically, and that's not western world, we are speaking about global statistics here, even those countries where beating your wife with thumb wide stick is god given right. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:15 AM

The whole termostat wars. This is personal experience now (I'm over 50 and worked my whole life in corporate setting), so no 'sources', no science etc. In my opinion it comes down to dress code. As someone from Northern Europe I noticed it is not problem during winter but as soon as summer starts, huge problems start. Problem to me seems to be that men have strict dress code that enforces them to cover up whole body with multiple layers, while women go around in flimsy sundress. I understand nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:04 AM
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Yes thats true. Estonia already has 22% of population Russians. Them and their family members are not blocked from entering. It's only new ones with no current connection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 12:20 PM
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Stop with "technically" and forget wiki.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:50 AM
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It is not gendered problem and also not left/right problem. She was/is politician, politicians say irrelevant stupid things and confuse everything. That's not news, they do such things in every country. That policy is to protect Estonia from security risks not to ban Russian men specifically. Also I was too categorical, Estonia still accepts Russians, just not random ones. Like for family reasons they are still accepted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:49 AM
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I actually was not aware of that until just now. Why do you ask? To make you aware that she probably knows and disregards that opinion from Marx. She is well known right winger, with right wing views. Ah, I didn't check to see if she's still prime minister, as she's described in the OP's title. Yes I too fell into stupid trap that I saw that this tweet is from 2026, so I was confused. She was prime minister 2022 when she said that. Weird to bring it up in 2026, she has said worse things. It just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:23 AM
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Yes its legal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:33 AM
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Kallas is a racist who genuinely hates Russians. Russian is not race, so this is very weird take. Kaja Kallas is well known right wing grifter and quite suspicious and not popular politician, but she has never shown any bit of racism. When Russian politicians talk about “Western hypocrisy” and “NATO expansionism” they are thinking of her Russian politician talks, opinion disregarded. In Russia there is only one "politician" whose talk can be taken seriously, its Putin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:32 AM
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You do understand that she is old enough and received actual formal education about Marxism in Soviet Union? I don't think that denial is a coincidence on her part, given that she presides over a former Soviet state She is well known local right-winger, so her political view-point is common knowledge, but she DOES NOT preside over Estonia. She works for EU since 2024. Of course it changes nothing as current PM is also well known right winger. It's also irrelevant as being left/right has nothing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:30 AM
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Most Afgan (very few) and Syrians (little bit more, but still few) who fled to Europe were men not women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:25 AM
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Does she do the same for Russian women running away from their country? She can't. She has no power in Estonia, she has been working for EU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Representative_of_the_Union_for_Foreign_Affairs_and_Security_Policy But answer is yes, it's not gender based. Estonia does not accept more Russians no matter if male or female.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:25 AM
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Kaja Kallas is not PM of Estonia. One google would say that. There is also deeper reason why countries like Estonia can't give asylum to Russians. Start of Ukrainian invasion 2022 demonstrated it when local Russians were actively used to check out military movements and damage from attacks and target information. Estonia already has many local Russians, it's just smart for them to make it harder for GRU to plant more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:22 AM
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Because its very hard to separate art from artist. Very few of us can actually do it. For me it's easy. For example, there is probably nothing in real life I would agree about with Kameron Hurley, and I still find her book "The Light Brigade" one of the best books.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/01/26 08:42 AM
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Also, if she hates men so much why is she dating a man right now? Because he is "one of the good ones", till he is not.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/01/26 08:39 AM

Then you have some very weird definition of 'completely a doormat' that is very different from mine. I have never met even one person who I could describe as 'completely a doormat'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:04 AM

No I'm not. That was just random example how being submissive works in my opinion. This is what he was speaking about: At least in my experience, if a guy proves he's trustworthy and actually takes initiative, and cares for her, a woman is perfectly willing to follow his lead. You told that those women are 'absolute doormats'. I disagree. Women who are 'willing to follow his lead' are usually not 'absolute doormats'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:50 AM

Yes he is not. This is part where I agree with you. What I disagree about is your take on 'those women are absolute doormats'. They may be, but most of them are not. I would even say that for majority of them being submissive is constrained into bedroom. I could be wrong even with that, its just based on my personal experience. Most people are not submissive in every area, but in same time they are in some area. Probably also comes to how you even define submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:44 AM

Those women are absolute doormats. It's not that easy. There are plenty of people (yes men too) who are submissive in some areas of life and not in other areas. I mean there have been examples of high power successful people who enjoyed submissive sexual relationship. I don't think I have ever met person who is 100% submissive in every area of life. For example, my childrens mother is kind of submissive usually, but when it comes to children she turns to mother lion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:22 AM
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I'm putting a strawman up in response to this strawman post. His post is opinion. It's clear when you read it. If you have opinion about some concept it's not strawman. He is not misrepresenting an opponent position. It's kind of impossible because there are many feminist positions and he does not target specific persons opinion. You can't strawman such vague and fluid idea. Who are these people who are doing all these things? This posts whole point is about criticizing ideas, not people. There …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 07:24 AM
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I don't think you know what strawman is. Just in case one of the common definitions: Misrepresenting an opponent’s position — making it weaker, simpler, or different — and then attacking that distorted version instead of the real argument. I think you are much closer to strawman than OP is, but if we call it sealioning we are much closer to what you are doing here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 09:56 PM
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You have to argue ideas Yes, we can agree to that. I always argue with ideas. Like when someone writes question: How many men's rights people are just open misogynists? I argue against premise of such question, because in my opinion men's right people are not more misogynistic compared to other random sample of people. That of course depends how you define misogyny. I can't argue with you when we don't speak same language.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 05:49 PM
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I gotta say, I do get tired of this seeming dogmatism regarding character growth being a requirement for every character in writing, like that's the only thing that can make a story interesting, or being interesting is the only purpose a story can serve. I agree with that. I don't want always the same. Sometimes power-fantasy is fun to read. But I also quickly get tired when every book I read is power fantasy. Character growth is not mandatory to make story interesting, but you can't just make o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 04:59 PM
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One important part of masculinity is that you DGF about what other people think. You get to define what matters for you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 11:49 AM
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Perfect characters in any entertainment just makes for boring entertainment. There is no room for growth. I have always loved books and mary sue (male or female, no difference) characters are ok for short term entertainment, but if you keep consuming only similar plots, it just gets mind-numbingly boring really fast. More complex characters bring so much more to the table.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 10:21 AM
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How many men's rights people are just open misogynists? This is mental gymnastics. It's only possible because mens rights people are usually included into wider "manosphere" context even when they have nothing in common with other parts like incels or red pill. To prove it you have to show that men's rights people are in average more misogynistic compared to some random sample of men. I would say from my personal experience that men's rights people are less misogynists than average men and also …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 09:15 AM
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Then they should not use study that does not measure what they claim. If they want to compare DV in lesbian vs gay relationships they should just check one such. Like for example this one: "lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively)." https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-resource-dv-lgbti-2020.pdf
/r/EverydayMisandry17/01/26 03:33 PM
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We are speaking about real life, not about some sick fantasy. If you want to go that road just check out NSFW books women read. Those are full blown misogynistic smut porn. Those are mainstream and widely sold even in amazon. Still there is difference between fantasy and real life.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/01/26 12:05 PM
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there are tons of spaces that talk about issues with men and sexism and don't go into misandry. That's because how you see and define misandry. Lot of you claim it does not exist, so of course it's impossible to go there. Lot of you claim that its not misandry but misogyny, so again it's impossible to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:28 AM
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Intersectionality is pretty weak at explaining causes. They can't make it stronger. If they try the whole facade would collapse. For example if reproductive responsibility were treated symmetrically, feminism would have to address male reproductive rights. So they just keep it vague.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 07:41 AM
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I understand what you say, I just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:47 PM
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younger people aren't far more likely to be susceptible to these kinds of toxic relationships. I mean this part. I haven't seen statistics that show that younger people have more toxic relationships. So I go with my personal experience. Toxic relationships concentrate on certain people disregarding their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:33 PM
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I have not seen statistics, so I don't know. What I know is based on my own personal life experiences and in my opinion being susceptible to toxic relationships has no age parameter. It can and does happen at any age. Also, there are people who are always (or often) in toxic relationship. Once it can be accident, but when one after another is toxic and violent then its up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:39 PM
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You can have a fully developed brain and still lack the world experience to recognize toxic and harmful relationships. I'm over 50. Most people I communicate with are around my age. I know my age woman who is smart and has fully developed brain and still lacks experience to recognize toxic and harmful relationships. Even when every friend she has tells her same, she still refuses to recognize. She only had one healthy relationship, all rest were violent, toxic and harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:32 PM
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These are adult men, fucking teenagers 8.8 years younger than them and getting them pregnant before they can finish schooling and get a good paying job. That's interesting find. Good look back to 30 years ago. This was a population-based, retrospective cohort analysis of all 12,317 very young adolescent mothers residing in California with a first singleton live birth during 1993-1995 I wonder if and how it has changed. Interesting if such research is even possible to do in current political clim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:11 PM
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patriarchy, where women are systematically oppressed by men We don't have that in western society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:50 PM
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I’m talking about people who intentionally seek out people who have significantly less life experience than them. Your experience argument is just wrong. I had more life experience when I was 16 than a lot of people have at 25. Its huge difference if you grow up in ghetto or in safe sheltered suburb. And when we go by age argument, it's kind of weird too. Is it even problem in reality? How many 18 year olds do you even know who have age-gap relationship with 30+? I can't remember even one. I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:35 PM
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legally murder Murder by definition is illegal killing. For example, when you are in military and kill another soldier (like in battle) its not murder by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:30 PM
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I was 23 when I seeked out and seduced 37 year old woman. I thought it's good idea as she was hot and I wanted to learn how to be better at sex, neither of us thought it was long term, we knew its purely sexual. I'm over 50 now, I still thank her as I think her teaching was reason why all my partners have been content with our sex life. I don't think she groomed me or was predator. I was hunting her not other way around. I had to work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:26 PM
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It doesn’t even compare abuse among couples. But the amount of dv experienced by different type of individuals. That includes, partner violence but also familial abuse. Why do you search info from irrelevant study then? Why not check out actual studies that people speak about? You can get links from my answers to other people here (about study that dv stats are higher amongst lesbian women compared to gay men): https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qaaggt/dating_women_is_significant…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:02 AM
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Gay women or women in a gay relationship have a much higher self report for DV because they usually were in a relationship with a man who had abused them before their gay relationship Could you please stop it? Its wrong. I just answered same allegation here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qaaggt/dating_women_is_significantly_harder_than_dating/nz4vdfx/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:46 AM
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statistic on dv rates in lesbian/bisexual relationships is about people who have EXPERIENCED DV in the past, not specifically in lesbian relationships. People who claim that do it because they did not read source. It's specifically in lesbian relationship, compared to gay relationship. It's also not about experiencing, it's about reporting. So reason could also be that lesbians make more false allegations compared to gays. "lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:28 AM

I linked you source that say's you are incorrect. You have to compare acts of terrorism to some baseline. Otherwise just listing terrorist acts is pointless and proves nothing. Also, you can easily get such results when you just redefine what some word means. That's not science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:39 AM
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That’s no longer what incel means after all the terrorist attacks done in the name of the ideology. https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2023/07/Whyisnttheremoreincelviolence.pdf When people say incel, they mean violent misogynist. Then there is very few incels who would fit old definition. You could even say that if its true then you changed definition of apple to mean orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:20 AM
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Incel is different than virgin Of course, thats just common sense and I think most people would agree. Incel does not have to be virgin, and virgin does not have to be incel. Incel used to be defined as involuntary celibate, nowdays it's for some reason redefined as 'I do not agree with you'. Even random women get's called it sometimes. But incel to a lot of women tends to be men who are aggressive because of their lack of being able to have sex. I actually got curious when I was called incel (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:13 AM
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basically saying I am worthless unless im attractive or can provide them sex I can't agree with that. Your worth is not measured like that. What they do say is that they don't find you friend material, but their bar for sexual partner is much lower. I don't think talking and interactions come to play here at all, there are other reasons why men avoid doing it with women lately. I do interact and talk with women I'm comfortable with (and don't have sex with), but I'm very careful with women stran…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:47 AM
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after having been married once and divorced already wtf? If its not secret, where are you from? Also, wtf? How is this even possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:42 AM
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The fact remains that tweets aren't real life. Depends. Who tweets and what. Tweets can have real life consequences. I mean, your president keeps tweeting. But how is it relevant to my case? I did not link 'just more tweets'. You can go check yourself if you don't believe me. There is no national movement to take men's rights away. Depends from location and definitions. There is no national movement to take women's rights away is as true, and as useless. We can't even argue about it as it really…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:42 AM
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"lesbians commit more domestic violence" What study do you mean? There is study that says "lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively)." It's just that its interpreted wrongly. People don't even check the headline and then use it in wrong context. "Intimate partner violence in lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, intersex and queer communities" https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:18 PM
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Review the title of the thread. You should read the post, not just title. It says "Feminism .. yada yada. He brings up two claims he finds important. I agree with him about those issues, but I do think there are more important things that I don't like about feminist discourse. Of course I leave him right to his opinion. There is no nuance or "some" I think you should read post. I don't see anywhere where he could add "some", I just don't see absolute statements there, maybe you can point me to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:04 PM
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Most guys haven't really checked out red pill stuff, don't call themselves that, and don't actually believe its main ideas. When you look at what people think about dating and gender roles, most men still have pretty old-school views. That already puts red pill ideas outside the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:51 PM
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Even if that damage exists it would not make it mainstream. Their propaganda is quite toothless. Majority of men endorse core egalitarian norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:42 PM
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"all anything" is way too extreme to describe most of the things in society. Things are much more fluid. Also, where did I mention here "all women" or "all feminists"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:38 PM
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Why do feminist have to have the moral high ground? Because it's mainstream. Has been for decades. You know what happend with TRP? They became mainstream. Come back when they lecture us in UN. It's very tiny fringe thing, most people never heard of it. It's not mass movement like feminism is. It's fringe subculture. "not all men!" Then start listening when feminists speak to you and stop that stupid pandering to patriarchy concept. You have two options, you either drop it, or you will always los…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:30 PM
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Well, then you either did not open any of topics in those two subreddits. Or you define attacking differently than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:17 PM
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I sent you whole subreddit with evidence. You labeled it 'just some tweets' and refused to open any. Still you have time to complain here that no links is sent to you. I give you another one /r/TheTinMen and don't tell it's only tweets, anyone can go there and check for tweets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:10 PM
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So just more tweets? You didn't even look there. Go open some and check.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:58 PM
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Never seen terror group claim, but for newer than 2014 examples of misandry you can start in here r/ToxicFeminismIsToxic/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:46 PM
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They have to use it. Otherwise whole concept of patriarchy collapses and without it they would be like headless chickens.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/01/26 12:37 PM

You can't really save people from something like the manosphere pipeline because it's not a real, organized thing. People often describe it like a group where everyone thinks the same, but the only shared thing is that most people in these online spots are men. MRA's care about things like family law, schools, or healthcare, and argue mostly for policy changes. That puts them in a very different category from other groups. Red pill usually don't believe in group solutions. If you simplify, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:29 AM
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It's not that simple. If you notice then all this stuff has been pushed more and more. It's goal is not just clicks, its distraction, to keep masses busy and concentrate their anger at wrong targets. Yes, I know I sound like some old weird conspiracy theorist. I try to keep open mind, but its getting really hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 07:38 AM
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Skimmed, its not worth to actually read. Too much misandry and rambling. Not enough substance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:04 PM
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I can't take Hooks seriously. Her definition of patriarchy does not exist currently in western world. That's why nowdays even feminists move away from using pointless term like patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 06:00 PM
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Send some links then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 08:18 AM
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Of course. I have excellent taste in women clothes. Every single one of my partners have always appreciated my input about their clothes and accessories. They ask for it because they know I see full picture and can easily give advice that makes them look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:09 PM
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It literally changes nothing in lives of 99.9999% of people if you replace every single elite man with elite woman. Common denominator for those people is not their gender (or sex) but their class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:03 PM
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Marriage adds 1.7 years to a man's life, but it shortens a women's life by 1.4 years. Its selection effect for both genders. Married women overall don't die younger than unmarried women. Its other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:48 AM
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Not only marathons, even in extreme endurance long distance running elite men are still much faster than elite women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:39 AM
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That's why men commit 92% of violent crimes. They don't. Majority yes, not 92% You guys often use your "powers" for evil I guess it depends how you define "evil", but most men do not. Most men are benevolent and kind. Criminals are very tiny subset of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:28 AM
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.34% sounds insanely high. But then I remember seeing something about something where someone explained that in US you can get in that list for public urination. Is it true?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/12/25 11:39 AM
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Evidence does not show that married women overall die younger than unmarried women. Its other way around actually, but it doesn’t mean marriage causes longer life. A big part of the pattern is likely selection effects.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/12/25 03:38 PM
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Yes crazy ex is very bad and counters women argument 'but we don't see it at first, we have no idea that he is toxic, its not written on his face'. He tells you, you just refuse to listen.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/12/25 03:24 PM
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Its very common, they literally refuse to read things they disagree with, so they just downvote. For example, try to tell them that 'sources' they linked do not support their claims and you will see.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/12/25 09:45 AM
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Because they redefined it. Original meaning is lost now as it would not fit their narrative.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/12/25 09:43 AM
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That's really interesting take you gathered here. Im starting to think that even so called 'wage gap' could have been created by that. I don't mean feminist wage gap that does not exist (women get paid less for same effort), but real life wage gap where men earn more in total. Men just tend to be more confrontational, go to boss and tell them 'pay me more or Im out of here'. For example I immediately went for other job and told HR what I think about their policy when they refused to accommodate …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 09:21 AM
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It's kind of weird. Sharks are not really fish. Actually there is no good definition of fish. This was interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C3lR3pczjo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 08:46 PM
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I think you wanted to say unironically misogynistic. Because it really is, there is no irony here, they are literally misogynistic and infantilize adult women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 08:42 PM
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It does not make sense because it has no connection whatsover with Schrodinger Cat thought experiment. They literally just proved that females can't understand such complex concepts and that's sad. I have met many women who do understand and then you see dumb becky who ruins it for all women all over the world.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/12/25 07:30 AM
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You know Wikipedia can be edited by anyone You know its wrong? Wikipedia is even more moderated than reddit. They do not tolerate 'wrong-think' there at all, and those power users get to decide what is 'wrong-think' with no rules or limitations on them.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/12/25 10:53 AM
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This is literally how they function. On double standards. Yes, all of them. Yes, some of them lie.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/25 09:19 PM
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Thats why I only date racists who hate my race while making me exception /s
/r/EverydayMisandry09/12/25 08:08 AM
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There are many issues, I expect people who participate here to be at least somewhat aware of at least some issues. You could easily add draft to list that kills men.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 03:30 PM
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Yes exactly, if it would be needed for STD prevention, it would show up in statistics. It does not.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 01:01 PM
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Well they say its needed because hygiene. When they tell you that, ask them if they are sure that not even single one of those boys would grow up with knowledge how to wash their dick. Also, how many little boys are they ready to kill, so some of the boys would not need to learn how to shower.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 12:44 PM
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I dont know what this word means. I have heard of circumcision, but that word does not exist for me, its just gaslighting to hide misandry. Its called male genital mutilation.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 12:42 PM
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Ok, literal example how systemic misandry kills little boys while girls are protected by law Even today children die because of this. In USA alone it's over 100 children every year. Actually nobody knows real numbers, because there is very strong incentive to wrongly classify cause of death. 100 deaths is probably low-balled number but it's best we have. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths Baby boys can and do succumb …
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 11:31 AM
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You mean that you are not aware of fact how systemic misandry kills over 100 little boys every year in USA?
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 08:47 AM
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Misandry literally kills little boys. Physically kills, without any reason. This is just one example, men are killed by it too.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/25 08:25 PM
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women are still disproportionately affected in both metrics. Only if you define those metrics like that. Thats not science. A key thing to remember here is domestic violence isn't just partner to partner abuse, but can also be family member to family member. Yes true, check out what gender commits majority of domestic violence, especially against children. but for women it is DUE to their gender being perceived as lesser that they are targetted. Yes it does, in Afganistan for example. We of cour…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 01:10 PM
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the chance of a woman being killed by an intimate partner is 12% No its not, its not even close to that. Murder rate is measured in 1/100000 because this is how low it is. Female murder rate is even much less as men are 81% of the murder victims world wide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 12:50 PM
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Shouldn't then women who does not participate in military or civil service (no idea if it exists in Switzerland, but it does in my country as alternative for non-violent men) also pay higher tax?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:55 AM
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No one should be drafted, but currently people are. Not having draft is privilege. Very few countries can afford to give such huge privilege. Most countries who have draft have aggressive neighbor, they have no better option. This of course does not excuse fact that everyone should give effort in there. Draft in normal countries also include non-violent options for men who don't want to fight. Women should be included in it equally. If they dont want to be drafted to combat roles, they can make …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:52 AM
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Men don't start wars. Elite class does, yes it also includes women. That's the problem with feminists. If you look through their core tenets and remove all class issues, there is nothing left. No gender issues at all, only class issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:20 AM
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There are no such thing. Homeless shelters are for all people, this is not men's shelter. Its just that men are vast majority of homeless, so it seems so. Also, homeless shelters where I live (EU) are more like regular housing, just government pays for it.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/11/25 09:08 AM
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Thats fake, there are way too few men's shelters in the world, chance that she is working in one are very low.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/11/25 08:34 AM
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Those are the men they pick. And then blame rest of the 99% for their failures.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/11/25 10:07 AM
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I'm humanist. I believe in equality and human rights. I don't believe in women rights nor men's rights. We all should have same right and opportunities. I think feminists take class issues and make those gender issues. Basically safety valve, distraction and useful idiots for ruling class
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 08:53 PM
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They just define misandry in such a way, that no comment ever would break it. Not even #killallmen content
/r/EverydayMisandry30/10/25 06:48 PM
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Typical feminist not understanding how society works. Takes class issues and makes those to gender issues, pandering to elite and do anything to avoid elephant in the room.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/10/25 07:08 AM
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I was talking about me, its in earlier comment. I know eveyone is different. For me difference was so huge that I could not finish as fast as before. Its actually annoying. Even some women dont like it when you fuck for hour and cant orgasm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 07:50 PM
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I dont know actually, but I think you cant restore nerves, just extend existing part, so it wont give sensitivity back. Thats why I find it insane that people do it to little kids before they even get to experience sex. I even had heated debate with dick doctor (like actual phd about dick health) from US who spewed such filth about positive sides of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/25 03:38 PM
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In this context, I actually meant it as medical issue. You loose lot of sensation, and even when some people cheer it on as they can go from 10 minutes to 20. We should not concentrate on it as price is really high for it. Difference in feeling is huge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/25 02:03 PM
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If you're in support of that there is nothing of worth in your perspective. English is my third language. I did not tell that, I actually told exactly the opposite. I had to have it done because of medical issue I had then. It absolutely made my sex life worse, feelings are muted and sex is like half as good as it was. Only good thing is that now I last longer, but I never had problem with lasting, 20-40 minutes was no problem for me even before and now Im situation where quite often I dont fini…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/25 01:50 PM
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I think I only saw women only wagons, not trains. But that's irrelevant to current topic. Those are short range trains and creating segregation is easier there. Making it work on plane is logistical nightmare. I'm in IT for 40 years and have worked on many logistical problems. That sounds like nightmare and very expensive. Companies would start losing money, a lot of money. So ticket prices would go up.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/10/25 09:38 AM
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That's BS. I had it done at 42 because of medical reasons. Had strong sex life before and after. I know what I feel, even if some dick doctor tells me otherwise. It's cope. They lie. Yes even scientists lie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/25 09:11 AM
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US is exception, you didnt lose huge amount of land and people who should also participate in voting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 06:37 PM
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During the war its very common. Especially considering that many people are incapable of voting because of atrocities committed by Russians. For example United Kingdom, Canada and New Zealand suspended or delayed elections during World Wars. Nobody didnt think that its bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 06:21 PM
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No this is not how any of it works. During war laws change. For example lot of countries have no elections during war. For Ukraine thats in constitution. Thats normal. Elections will be after the war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 05:49 PM
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I agree with you. Such system should include everyone. There are different roles and we can go by needed properties instead of gender to draft people to fill those.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 01:53 PM
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It's privilege that only a few countries can have. US is one such country. When you are a small country bordering an aggressive neighbor, you just don't have such luxury.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 01:40 PM
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Well you are kind of correct, but the thing is those crazy ones were weeded out really fast. I mean we did get together much younger compared to current generation. So the radical feminist types were the ones who complained about 'where are all the good men' and refused to accept reality that those 'good men' were already in LTR by age of 25 or so. In my friend group we had one man who was single by 25, but he was kind of playboy and slept around a lot. He got taken down by nice girl when he was…
/r/EverydayMisandry09/10/25 08:14 AM
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I'm over 50. If even 10% what I read about current generation dating is true (and it's more, I have children and grandchildren and I see) then it was much better 30 years ago. Both partners had to pull, now one pulls and one is like cart driver with whip.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/10/25 06:59 AM
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The problem is not that some ultra feminist says something dumb, The problem is that most of the feminists are ultra feminists and only say dumb things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 04:49 AM
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They will implement it, or become 51st
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 05:02 PM
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No we literally can't. And by we I mean countries bordering aggressive neighbor. Like Latvia, or Finland. I see movement to other direction instead. As rule-based world order was broken down, more and more countries will have to implement conscription. There is no other way for small country bordering large and aggressive neighbor. Canada is next
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 07:24 AM
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I promise you, they will not use their army for doing wars. Strictly just self-defense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 06:01 AM
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Not everyone has luxury to not use it. You either feed your army or someone elses. And that someone elses army is freakin expensive to feed. I know, I remember.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 06:00 AM
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But if governments insist Its much bigger than government and it has quite society-wide support. Comes from fact how shitty neighbour they have. Same goes for many countries in area.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 05:58 AM
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Either way, isn't the root of the issue the religion though? Usually in Muslim/Jewish populations. Exceptions are Philippines and USA where its cultural and not religion issue. Maybe there are more countries with cultural root of the issue that Im not aware of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 12:59 PM
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Wow that's unbelievably toxic. So if I make sure my harassment improves productivity it's ok? I have about 20 ideas how to do it, they should hire me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/25 03:59 AM
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Worst part is that I have lost hope and stopped searching if something new is published.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 01:51 PM
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They just dont care that there is pretty much nothing for a man to read. Im really not interested in anything published lately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 12:55 PM
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Yes, some of them say so. But, scratch a feminist and misandrist bleeds.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 03:44 AM
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Why limit it to 'misandry specifically and explicitly in their mission statement'? Thats literally pointless fiction. Actions matter, words are cheap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 11:50 PM
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I dont know why. It usually does when I point it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 01:48 AM
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Just tell them: 'What a nice ad hominem we have here. How is it relevant to our discussion?' Always seems to make them rage
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 12:30 AM
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He doesn't see it because it doesn't exist. If we use simplified dictionary definition, then yes, there is extremely tiny fraction of misogynists, but that definition was killed by misandrists long time ago. Now they have thrown so many additional books and articles to it, that it has transformed to meaningless buzzword that literally can't exist in real world as nobody has any idea how to define it and if we believe what misandrist say, then literally most of the population is misogynists. Just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/25 11:51 PM
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That's the patriarchy privilege you have. Billionaire daughter is much more oppressed than you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/25 10:27 AM
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So, in your opinion, we should just surrender to Russia and let them do whatever they want?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 11:54 AM
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Pay gap is already other way around. Companies are so afraid that young females already get better pay for less work. This happens when you repeat lies long and loud enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 08:31 AM
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I thought it's obvious. It's my internalized misandry that I just can't cure when it comes to sending females to front lines in war. I'm just too old and have been exposed to expendable men propaganda for my whole life. I don't know how to cure it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 08:28 AM
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Isnt that obvious from what I wrote?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 06:46 AM
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Sadly I have to agree with you. In general Im pro equal rights, but truth to tell, I dont want my daughters to be drafted and sent to die in frontlines when Russia invades. So, Im not all for equal rights, still some lingering misandrism in me that forces me to give women more rights than to men. But the rest, yes Im fully onboard with equal rights. Its about time to close suicide gap, education gap, workplace death gap, criminal punishment gap, life expectation gap, medical research and spendin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 05:39 AM
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I saw that 25% of people down-voted this post. So, I can't help but think this is still seen as creepy because I am a guy. Dont take it too seriously. World is full of weird creepy people who downvote things they do not understand.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/02/25 02:27 AM
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Also example is unnecessary genital mutilations where little boys are killed at much higher rate compared to girls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 10:29 AM
1

You confuse me. Whole premise of this topic is about 'Red Pill statements'. I never thought that those are not about dating. I could be wrong of course as I have never cared enough about such things. Why do you even participate and complain about 'my entire value is in my youth and looks' if its not about dating and red pill? Of course I find it highly suspicious, I'm from Europe and I dont notice such things in work place. Maybe in hardware store or dating, but not in IT where we cheris every f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:16 PM
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Date down, problem solved. We men do it, why cant you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:12 PM
3

Compared to man it's easier today to be CEO as woman. Men have ruthless competition for very few spots. Woman have quotas.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 02:40 PM
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Russian nukes are harder to launch than US nukes. There is literally whole chain of people who have to accept it. This is how we avoided disaster during cold war, random low level officer just said 'nah, I don't believe you and we would not launch'
/r/MensRights17/04/24 01:48 AM
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Left and right have specific meanings that have transformed through time. For me it has always been about pro-corporations vs pro-workers. Nothing to do with anything else.
/r/MensRights17/04/24 01:21 AM
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The same can be said about nazi and incel. Those words mean now 'I don't agree with you', at least in internet discussions.
/r/MensRights17/04/24 01:18 AM
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You have good point here.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 07:13 AM
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Bears don't kill. They literally eat you alive.
/r/MensRights11/04/24 12:48 PM
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https://politiscales.party/results?bTE9MTAmbTA9NzYmdDE9ODEmYjA9NjkmYjE9MTImczA9ODMmYzE9MzMmYzA9MTQmZmVtaT0yNCZwMD01NyZwMT0xOSZqMT0xOSZqMD02MiZlMD00NSZlMT0zOCZwcmFnPTEwMCZhbmFyPTY3 Quite accurate except labels are totally off. Communism doesn't meqn what they think it means and I hate it.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 03:27 AM
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Don't pick not interested, instead pick do not suggest from channel
/r/MensRights22/03/24 01:33 AM
1

Could be, but as European I believe more that reason is that there is no measurable difference for less STD's because of circumcisions.
/r/MensRights01/03/24 12:22 PM
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If it was true then European countries would have a higher rate of STDs. Check it out yourself.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 05:43 AM
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No it does not. And 2 is wrong. Right number is 16. Yes, 16. Edit: I'm sorry, I also lied. I should not comment before I have my morning coffee. Real number is 17. https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
/r/MensRights19/02/24 08:52 PM
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Have you been to Russia? Like even once? Have you spoken to Russian?
/r/MensRights06/02/24 09:45 PM
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It's better because man are too fast and strong, so it's hard to keep track. Female game is a lot different and in my opinion more interesting.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 01:26 AM
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Is it lack of looks, or lack of femininity? Those have nothing to do with being boring. Being boring makes one boring. Not having common interests can make someone boring. Not woman, man too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:34 PM
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I know back then ads like magazines and newspapers were sort of the 'Tinder' method back then. I never did that. I have actually never done "online" dating either. We just socialized in real life. We just did not have so large reach like you have now. Usually partner was found in area and social circle close to you. I found my ex-wife 120km away. My gf before her I found from my school, another one from army. Others from bars/parties/night clubs/gatherings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 01:31 PM
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So you basically want to create regime that is stricter then Soviet Union was? Something literally on level of North-Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:17 AM
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