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They just misinterpret what was said. I have seen (and said) that when men perpetrate violence, results are more dire (like injuries are more serious) because men are so much stronger and faster. They mix up frequency of something happening with severity of results when it's happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/26 08:55 AM
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I mean like idiot who keeps repeating same task. I even pandered to them and learned to use male/female when I speak about sex and men/woman when speaking about gender. And, of course its totally useless. They keep getting offended no matter how you form sentence.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/08/26 05:46 PM
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Well, problem is, it's really hard to tell in advance (I mean in internet, in real life they are easy to avoid). And it's kind of annoying to ask about every basic word what do they mean by it. I feel like idiot.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/08/26 05:24 PM
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They just redefined it, like they do with every single basic concept when they want. As non-native speaker it drives me mad. Why do I learn words when some weird-ass native speakers keep redefining basic words weekly.
/r/EverydayMisandry19/08/26 04:47 PM
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Its complicated, and very gendered. If we translate it from womaneze to English, it means: "i need attention and validation now"
/r/EverydayMisandry19/08/26 11:55 AM
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This garbage again. Ask for sources, and then link them source that show that incels are less violent. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/372309419_Why_isn't_There_More_Incel_Violence Secondly, we critique the association between incels and violence. Contrary to common beliefs, empirical evidence suggests that incels are not particularly prone to violence. Incels’ propensity for violence appears relatively low compared to that of the general population. The incel study with the current lar…
/r/EverydayMisandry19/08/26 10:30 AM
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Maybe it's my English skills problem (not my main language), but I don't think word respect means what redditors think it means. Respect is way too strong thing for it to be default. Default is indifference, respect is earned and not given.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 06:34 PM
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I doubt that its real increase. It's just fashion and expansion of labels. Probably still mostly straight, just do it for social credit. Also, useless to measure it through their claims, actions should be observed to get real changes. It takes a lot of time too, as they need to be observed for 30-50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 10:40 AM
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They'll never realistically start a family and contribute to birth rates Then tax extra based on that fact, not just some arbitrary trait. It has been tried, Soviet Union did it for example. by taxing parents less Many already do. There are countries where parents get 3 years of paid leave on government dime and companies have to keep their jobs available for them to return to. I think i solved the fertility crisis It does not solve fertility crisis. It will just create another crisis, depending…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/26 09:12 AM
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I give you inconsiderate and lazy, but very few people are actually evil. Internet does not count, people larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/26 03:52 PM
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Thank you, I gave it another pass and now I found it too. I skimmed it through previously. I did not concentrate enough on "Discussion" part of it. Instead I went through "Table 2. Strategies Used by Men to Get Unwilling and Nonconsenting Women to Have Sex." part and did not notice 95%. My bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/26 07:49 AM
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Mainly in terms of frontal lobe development. That take is dead horse, stop beating it already. You literally misunderstand everything about this study. Concentrate instead on rising age of reaching adulthood if you think it matters for some reason. People without developed frontal lobes (wrong btw) should not get right to vote or drive or buy alcohol or join army. They should stay in school and develop their front lobes instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/26 09:18 AM
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It's biased because of noise. It can't differentiate well between quality of sources, so it goes by who makes more noise, and lets face it, feminists are (and have been) very noisy.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/26 09:11 AM
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LLMs are trained from internet slop. Literally twitter and reddit have dis-proportionally big influence over it. And now consider it's not even new data now, we are speaking about data from peak-woke times couple of years ago. AI companies try to adjust, but they have no good solution. They can't even use scientific papers well enough, as they have same noise problem there. Just chat with random AI in topic you are strong about and you will see. It will literally parrot already outdated views be…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/26 09:10 AM
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Yes, true. Women use manipulation much more compared to men, men tend to take direct actions to solve their "problems"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 08:34 AM
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Actually just homicide rate is secondary problem. I mean, yes men do kill (commit homicide) at vastly higher rate. There would be no point to argue otherwise. Men are in average much stronger, faster and violent. Weapons are great equalizer, but men use those better too. Main problem comes from rhetoric around it. Like when feminists redefine basic concepts and muddle statistics to push their "men bad" agenda. Like they painted 95% of men rapists (btw that's weird claim and feminist study they u…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 06:58 PM
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English is my third language, so I formed my sentence poorly. So let me explain. Except that simply is not true, I can see your comments. Going back as far as 2022. Which is the exact age of your account. Why are you lying? You didn’t even say some, you said you delete all of your comments regularly. That’s false. This is what you said. It's not true. You can't see my comments from 2022 in reddit. My older comments may have been saved in some third party server, because reddit has contract with …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 06:09 PM
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I know what reddit API is. What I don't know is what do you attempt to prove to me. You know nothing of me, so avoid assigning labels. Im probably much older than you, and wrote my first professional API when you were probably still in diapers. It has been over 20 years. Well if you consider also SOAP, you can add some more years. Yes, I'm that old, I used internet first time 1992. I have hard time understanding what is even point of all this dick measuring contest. What do you try to achieve? F…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:49 PM
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You’ve hid your profile Using reddit, its literally pointless as they use everything to feed into AI. You can easily find my existing comments. not deleted any comments Yes, I have deleted my comments in Reddit. Why do you even argue? What are you trying to achieve with it? I think I know better than you do what I do with my comments. Pull shift data has been around for longer than widespread usage of AI. I don't understand relevance of this claim. Do you claim that reddit does not feed user dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 05:33 PM
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I think you posted it to wrong subreddit. You are preaching to choir here. Try to post it to PPD or such (but choose well, most places would just ban you) and see how women will start to cope and seethe. I have had countless amount of discussions with women about those issues in such subreddits. So I know their answers from heart already. So, lets go, I will give you stupidest ones. But, remember those are not my opinions, those are opinions of delusional people that I have destroyed countless a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 03:31 PM
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So your constitution has same problem as ours do. Anybody can violate it as its not enforced and there is no punishment for it. Do I understand you correctly?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 12:22 PM
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The law, on paper, is beautifully neutral. It speaks of "any person," Where? In US? How did you solve your draft law then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 11:32 AM
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You can see my comments through google search for example, because this is how reddit works, its data harvesting farm for AI. This is one reason why I do delete all my comments when those still run. Of course Im not aware how you can see my 2022 comments. As those are all deleted long time ago. When I try I don't see that old comments. btw, you are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/26 04:27 AM
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Basically it's not about loneliness, it's just noise to push "men bad" narrative. For some reason all this "male loneliness epidemic" noise became really popular lately. In multiple subreddits and threads. I have answered it multiple times, so I made wrong assumption that I actually already posted it under this thread too, this is my mistake, it was in different thread. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vnfgkt/the_loneliness_epidemic_isnt_owned_by_men_it/p3la1kg/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 10:22 AM
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You should read what I wrote before you answer. Also, you did not open neither of the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 10:16 AM
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Women don't have a biological tendency to search for a provider. But this is not how such claim should be interpreted. You have to put it into context. When people say that women have such tendency, it's compared to men, who show less of this tendency. And yes, there is proof that on average, women place more weight than men on a potential long-term partner’s resources, earning prospects or related traits. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32196435/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17380374/ What s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:29 AM
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Interesting. Did you even read that article? Why you don't mention that cutoff point is 11 times a year? Quote from article: The survey provided two options for answering this question: “0-11 times per year” and “more than 11 times per year.” Underlying study is legitimate, but I kind of disagree with their (your) conclusions. Study measures income and reported sexual frequency at the same time. It therefore cannot establish whether lower socioeconomic status causes lower sexual frequency or som…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 09:20 AM
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Proof? Evidence? Actually rewrite everything so it has some coherent point instead of unreadable low quality slop word salad. I would love to blame you for being LLM, but your writing is too incoherent and wrong, so I can't even claim that. You are human because no AI can write slop as bad as you do daily. It seems guys never think that they probably lied to themselves No it does not seem. It's all in your head, and you probably should seek professional help. I'm not sure if pathological misandr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:58 AM
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This is such a weak take. Do you have any proof for your outrageous claims? Since many mens only emotional outlet/support tends to be women What is many? 2? 5? 25? This is stupidest sentence I have read in this subreddit this week, and it contains yesterdays mandatory word-salad from lilithofbabylon. a lonely guy loses all of that. How do you define lonely in this context. Male loneliness epidemic is not really about loneliness. Now yes, this also does mean that men could stand to step up emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:27 AM
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Why write so long when your whole point can be said with one sentence? Men loneliness epidemic does not exist. So while male loneliness and that men are lonely are legitimate social problems No it is not. And no, not a cent of public money should be spent on it. It does not exist anywhere else except in internet whining. And those internet whiners have no idea what word loneliness even means, or how is different from word solitude, or what lonely actually means. it's not caused by anything women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:23 AM
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Yes, I delete all my comments. It's good thing to do regularly. It's like brushing your teeth. Mandatory hygienic procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 05:12 AM
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I told you, you have given me no evidence. Your comments and posts are just word-salad and rarely contain any coherent point except "men bad". Also, you have no idea what red pill means.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:28 PM
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Let's discuss oranges, and I give you stats about apples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:22 PM
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You have never given any evidence in any post you have ever made here. Im actually quite impressed that you opened source I linked to you that proved your claim wrong. This must be first time for us. I have linked you hundreds of sources, nothing ever changes. No matter how many lies I call out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:15 PM
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You just keep adding irrelevant slop. This does not invalidate anything I said. I did not decide about if CNN is mainstream or not. I told you it's irrelevant and does not show that such epidemic exists. And even if it did, it's still won't support your original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:13 PM
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I answered your original premise in here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vn86o9/your_internal_thoughts_are_not_an_excuse_for_your/p3fomiw/ It was also incoherent word-salad with no real point except "men bad", so I picked out more interesting (and wrong) parts of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:03 PM
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Just stay in that tiktok, you will find plenty of women speaking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:02 PM
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You misunderstood my claim. What I said was that even if it would be 50% (it's not) it would still be irrelevant to your original premise. It won't support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 02:01 PM
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There is no point to argue about definition of rare. Even if it was 50% it would not support your original claims. All those things you wrote in OP are just imaginations in your head. If you look that % then right question to discuss would be why is this result as it is. But that would be totally out of topic too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:56 PM
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1 in 8 is less than amount of morons in any random sample of population. So yes it's rare. Especially considering: Tate is widely disliked by young men, with 71% saying they have a negative view of him, including 59% with a “very unfavourable” opinion. I formed my sentence badly, left it unfinished. I mean't it's not making it into mainstream, it's pushed there by force, by women, it is just empty noise, it has not taken epidemic level, it has always existed, it may have grown lately, but all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:48 PM
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This whole word-salad has no connection with anything I wrote, even worse it has no connection with anything you wrote in OP. why is The Male Loneliness Epidemic making it into mainstream Because it is not making it into mainstream. There is no such epidemic, it's just play with words. Noise in internet is just overblown and feminists have weaponized it to demonize men in general. In my opinion its more often women who are lonely, it's women who complain about it, but for some sick weird reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 01:39 PM
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Difference is that men who say “misunderstood good men” are very rare and they are shunned by mainstream in general, women who say “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” are the mainstream. Also, you should really choose your acquaintances better, you seem to gather real scum around you. Claiming everyone misunderstands you becomes very convenient when you don’t believe in personal accountability. Personal accountability is installed into men from very early age. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/26 12:53 PM
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Such complaints in internet are just overblown and feminists have weaponized it to demonize men in general. In my opinion its more often women who are lonely, it's women who complain about it, but for some sick weird reason they call out men for it. Master level projecting. Often its just rational choice by those men. Men just choosing peace over constant nagging and drama does not make "male loneliness epidemic". Men in general tend to function well alone, we know how to be alone without being …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 10:42 AM
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I doubt its possible to persuade you. You have your experiences, I have mine. Maybe it's cultural difference, or age difference. Maybe it has changed. I'm over 50 and have literally never met man who cares about age-gap relationships in negative way, even when they don't like it (because of person, not age) they don't ostracize their friend over it. Every negative response has always been from woman.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/08/26 08:37 AM
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Yes, I agree with everything you say in this comment. This is how they work. And its all wrong too, equality is a zero sum game when material resources enter the picture.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 10:53 PM
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Of course I did not mean that. When I say resources I mean material kind. Those are the ones they are after. Its good grift for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 10:52 PM
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Why does it even matter how many degrees she has. I have met more than one genius with degrees, who is literal genius in their field and still total moron in other fields. Only exception would be if she had degree in dating I guess. Would not even surprise me if it was true, nowdays they let you do degrees in very weird fields.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/08/26 04:38 PM
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If I want to argue with LLM, I would just put my answer to ChatGPT
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:34 PM
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So when men fall behind, there's a false assumption that they're misusing their greater capacity for agency. Feminists literally define such situation as equality. It's very easy to prove too. No sources even needed, just math is enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:23 PM
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But remember, Equality isn't a zero sum game! Equality isn't, but resources are. This is what they are afraid of. Logically thinking they should have disbanded long time ago, they just got taste of sweet money and want it to keep flowing. So they have to radicalize their rhetoric as every real issue is solved long time ago.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:21 PM
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First, male and women? Seriously? Feminists would rip you apart in any other subreddit if you used men and females in same sentence. Answer to your question is: because its zero sum game. Every piece of resources spent on male issues is something that feminists want to put towards their own goals. Resources are power. Feminists have power and they are very loud. So their narrative is mainstream and gets resources. They must keep yelling, so risk of those resources being reallocated to male issue…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:18 PM
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They don't coddle women by limiting their economic freedoms. That would not work in western society. Also, that would be oppression not coddling. They coddle women by limiting their responsibilities in front of law. Women have equal rights, but don't have equal responsibilities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:01 PM
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Im saying that you imagine things that does not exist in real world. Hypothetical situation you paint is extremely rare to non existent in real world. Men don't give a shit how old woman their friends date. They don't ostracize their friends over age-gap relationships. You may get some shit when you date toxic woman, but even that does not rise above usual levels. You are just not aware how regular dynamics work in male friend groups.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/08/26 07:59 AM
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Why would supporting worker rights save us from the feminists? Feminists hate workers with passion. There may be some exceptions, but too few for it to matter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:28 AM
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Reddit does not care. Discrimination of men is official policy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 04:24 AM
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No difference, you would never learn from it anyway, may aswell sit there, this topic is dead by now anyway too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/26 04:05 AM
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Go check out tinman's last post. My speculation about Tate and such "influencers" seems to be correct. They have pretty much no support. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheTinMen/comments/1vlh0hm/boys_are_good_and_i_have_the_data_to_prove_it/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/26 01:30 PM
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It depends how you define selfish, as there are many way's. Selfish is bad word and those researches usually do not use it, they do research on concepts like generosity, cooperation, altruism, empathy, volunteering, charitable giving, honesty, resource sharing. Sex differences are different in those, but all of those seem to fit under selfish/unselfish umbrella. What you actually demonstrate is well known belief in gender differences in social preferences. https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/14…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 10:52 AM
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Even when they prove you wrong? Im speaking specifically about this claim here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1vfwbsv/women_generally_tend_to_be_more_materialistic/p24mcr1/ I don't go through history, and I usually don't mix threads, but when I saw you here, I remembered it, so I searched it out. You were wrong there. There is no such research, there was but its bit irrelevant and debunked by wider research.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:36 AM
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when I think the people critisising them are just plain wrong You should base it more on them being wrong, and much less on you thinking of them being wrong. They are usually not, It is much more probable that you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 08:25 AM
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First. Re-read your own definitions. Discipline, self control, no one has to conform, you define what matters to you. That is my position. Good, but it was not definition. It was example of traits that I (and probably some other people, it may include you) would include under umbrella of masculinity. My claim was actually, that its too fluid to define. I could have framed it better I think, but at the moment I thought it was quite clear. I sometimes tend to rant too much. We're not on opposite s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/26 07:11 AM
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yeah but from a different angle: how many men are comfortable with taboo breaking couple where the woman is 69 and the man is 45? I won't say its zero, but it's close enough to call it zero. Like men live their lives, in general they DGAF about other people lives. They will attempt to ostracize the man No they don't. I have 2 such men I know. It was even worse, as it was decades ago, we were in our 20's and both those women had kids couple of years younger. One had 6. We did not understand, but …
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/26 12:06 PM
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As usual, most women are unable to admit that gender dimension in feminist intersectionality theory is pathetically small compared to pretty much any other dimension and that class dimension has bigger impact than rest of the dimensions combined.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/26 12:02 PM
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What you are doing is called confirmation bias I have not noticed it. Please point me to my claim that is confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is the tendency to preferentially seek, interpret, remember, and give greater weight to information that supports one’s existing beliefs or expectations, while giving less attention or scrutiny to information that contradicts them. I had no chance to even show anything like that. As you have not given me any information that disproves any of my claims or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 09:03 AM
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What actions? Show me those actions, so I can improve. You probably just misunderstood what I wrote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:59 AM
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But words are not enough to prove that someone is villain. I did not even argue that I'm not conservative for you. I literally told, that Im not aware of any definition of conservative that would fit me. Instead telling me, show me. And explain why that claim is conservative POV. And many professionals who have way more knowledge than you on this subject know that this isn't a set in stone biological instinct Cool then, that I never told something like that. I told that social construct is based…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:57 AM
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Why does it matter? Also you know nothing of me. I'm not conservative. Conservative is political view that I do not subscribe to. In your opinion, what part of any of what I wrote is conservative? It could just be definition issue, I'm not from USA.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:28 AM
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You could argue that masculinity is social construct, but those constructs are still based on biological reality. I'm not conservative in any sense I have seen defined. I argue that you can't get rid of it. It's just too fluid and slippery, you can try to redefine it's meaning, and you can try to get rid of some components. But as concept in whole, it's impossible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:19 AM
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You base your opinion on what you think what masculinity as concept means. I don't tell it's wrong, but masculinity is too fluid for that. It's umbrella term that contains many traits, also those you don't agree with. It's just descriptor and there is nothing anybody can do to get rid of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:14 AM
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Wow, feminists lie. Surprised Pikachu face. Next time just tell them that concept as such is older than reddit and wide use of internet. It existed when I joined Internet first time, 1992. Mythopoetic men's movement did invent that label, probably Shepherd Bliss but I could be wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:10 AM
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Masculinity should be done away as a concept? Literal impossibility as it's just too fluid. How do you propose it's done logistically? Every man has his own set of traits he puts under that umbrella and even when there is quite large overlap, sheer amount of those is still way too big to get rid all of those. Also such changes in society can only be done via force. Lot of force. Who will be ones enforcing it and why? It is not as well defined an obvious as toxic masculinity. It seems to be based…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 07:55 AM
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If you were a man and something mystical happened to the world and, over night, sex with women was no longer an option, would you still go on dates and pursue time with women? No. As I dont go to dates and pursue time with men either, if they are at maximum my friends, there is no reason for dates. If every encounter was guaranteed to never end in sex, would you talk to or relate to women voluntarily? You are aware they are kind of like you know, 50% of f-in population? How wold I even start wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 06:16 AM
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There are multiple lists of course. Common denominator there seems to still be that its usually male actors. Justin Bieber has never been for example named People magazine's Sexiest Man Alive. So it seems that you overdo it a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:37 PM
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Every man has those, we call those preferences. There is usually quite large variance too, and that's very good. For example me and my best friend can never have girl trouble over same girl. We just have totally different preferences. Thats why I also find that 10 bs very weird, one man's 10 is another man's 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:28 PM
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I’m also a teacher which could be why. Thats nice to hear. I have utmost respect to teachers, because I had luck to have best ones in the world. Of course lately some teachers have done their best to prove to me that they should not be teachers, but I don't blame all teachers for it, just those specific individuals. my masters is in elementary education, & my bachelors is in linguistics & history so I’m sure I’ll be the one helping with schoolwork too. That time passes also very fast. And you ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 06:19 PM
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Some things can’t go through the dish washer or don’t fit in if the dish washer is too full. I also have to wash my daughter’s bottles every day because she’s a baby. Yes its harder when you have tiny baby in house. It was very hard for me then too. I had 3 in total. And its also true that in some conditions (as I mentioned too) washer is not much of help. I can only tell you that this time passes really quickly. They are tiny for very short time, and it will get easier with those chores. Of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:19 PM
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I don't get it. Every person puts their dishes to washer when they have eaten. In the evening you push the button. In the morning, you put dishes to cabinet. It's less than 10 minutes. Now that my kids are grown, its actually harder. Just not enough dishes to fill washer. So I do it by hand and only use washer when I have more. You don't need to clean every evening. Take everything nobody uses, and throw away. If its there for "we need it", throw away, if its there because its pretty, throw away…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 02:09 PM
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The chores might be “small, quick, & easy” but they add up, that’s the point. They really don't. You just overestimate what goes into it. Usual chore that women whine about takes just fraction of time you paint it. Most of time cooking is not spent on chore. It's waiting time. Same for laundry. Cleaning takes time, but problem with it is that women overestimate how much cleaning actually must be done. You live at home, it's not museum, its ok if its not pristine, especially with children. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 01:53 PM
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But in your example all you’re doing is putting laundry in the washer. That’s only one small part of the chore. Sure, that takes only a second, but then you have to fold the laundry to o & put it away. All of it is small, quick and easy. It does not sound simple, it is simple. Yes, there are other such tiny chores that need doing. Also small, quick and easy. while my husband gets to relax And here is the problem. Communicate. Also open your eyes. Women constantly underestimate "free labor" their…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:53 AM
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No I can't. I dont like people who dox me and create ad hominems based from my history. Because reddit does not allow hiding your profile (yes, it does not work) I just delete all my comments after some time. I can give you some simple examples. Woman loading washer for 10 minutes and then scrolling tiktok for 4 hours - did laundry for 4 hours, chore and house work. Man taking children to park to play for 4 hours, fun hobby, not chore, not house work. Those were examples from that discussion. Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 09:41 AM
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I had discussion right here in this subreddit, where every chore I listed was immediatly answered with "its not homework and does not count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:02 PM
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What it has to do with anything? Being egalitarian means that I believe in equal rights for all. Use of words does not change my beliefs in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 10:01 PM
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I will try to translate that English comment into womaneze Women should take accountability and admit that chores they call "unpaid labor" are irrelevant, easy and take very little time, men do more of those in general, by default. You playing with words and redefining what chore means, or what constitutes as "labor" won't make that claim wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:38 AM
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Thats really silly take. Depends of course how you define punishment. In real life taking accountability is rarely followed by punishment, usually it is followed with admiration that you had balls to admit that you were wrong and hope that you will learn from it. It's powerful, don't be afraid to live up to your mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 08:34 AM
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Every government will do that when facing existential threat. Other alternative is to disband country and give it to attacker, then they will implement that policy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/26 08:19 AM
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And that sexism is highly useful for women in general, as it mostly manifests in oppression of men. Elites coddle women, and infantilize women and take away their agency. They paint women as too weak to take responsibility that adult person should take. Very bigoted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/26 08:15 AM
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I wish feminism was like that. Well, if not all of it, at least considerable part. I would be feminist then myself. Instead I see totally different picture. Picture where half population is vilified for actions of few, using lies, and where equality is defined as "women are ahead", and inequality is defined as "women are behind"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:47 PM
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I don't understand your argument. I can't connect it with anything I claimed. When you ask me 'How so?', I don't know what to answer, as I don't understand what about this how is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 08:54 AM
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What you call day-to-day tasks won't give you any advantage in making decisions that affects family future.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:56 AM
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The red pillers and the trads will tell us that female submission is not about being micromanaged but about men making the decisions on all of the "important" stuff. I accept it as your definition of submission you argue against. How is this not retarded? That's wrong question to ask. Correct question to ask is, did you know it before you decided to move in? Did he hide it from you? People can have any kind of relationships, and if it works for them, just let them do it without assigning some la…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 07:45 AM
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Everything you write is true. This is reason why feminism cant work. No matter how much they push, they cant change reality. Slogans won't change biology. I'm egalitarian and pro equal rights, but I understand that with rights come responsibilities, full equal rights is really impossible (not only between genders) and maximum we can achieve are symmetrical equal rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 07:07 AM
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Is this some kind of misogyny? Yes it is. It comes as no surprise to anybody with brain that feminists are biggest misogynists we have. They constantly keep infantilizing women and taking away their agency. That's why we cant have equality, they refuse to take responsibility.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 07:02 AM
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Because its zero sum game. Every piece of resources spent on male victims is something that feminists want to put towards their own goals. Resources are power. Feminists have power and they are very loud. So their narrative is mainstream. Current mainstream feminism narrative is that men can't be raped, and if they can, they wanted it anyway. Yes, I'm aware there are some feminists who disagree, but they can't compete with mainstream, too tiny, too quiet, too ignored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 12:48 PM
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One of the most popular smut books has female underage protagonist with 104 years old male love interest.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/08/26 08:40 AM
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Interesting. Im opposite of you. I'm left (far left for Americans) but I'm full outsider as I don't believe in men's rights at all. I'm egalitarian and I think we all have same rights, no difference if you have dangly bits between your legs or not. Im here because its honest, and even when we disagree, nobody has banned me yet. Even when my world-views do not align 100%. It's refreshing actually considering how hard it is to disagree in most subreddits. It has already been brought up. But in my …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 02:43 PM
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That's not true and you know it. Even men need to sleep. Also male victims of DV are usually so battered that they won't fight back. They just suffer in silence. There are less places for them, and logically thinking waiting lists must be even longer. Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:27 PM
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People also heavily underestimate women's ability to gain strength. You also heavily underestimate men's ability to gain strength. I claim based on your source, that men’s average absolute increase was about 1.9 times larger than woman's. That's huge difference and you heavily underestimate it. The study reported elbow-flexor peak torque: Men: 49.35 to 55.08 Nm, gain 5.73 Nm Women: 25.09 to 28.04 Nm, gain 2.95 Nm
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 01:23 PM
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Our discussion has devolved into nothingness. I will make my own claim under your comment. Debunk that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 01:20 PM
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No, there are fewer because feminists actively fight against those. So there is no way to make those, even when there is need.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:15 PM
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Yes, true. Men are much bigger and a lot stronger (also you forgot faster and much more violent). But that does not mean that they can't be in danger. We have had weapons for long time now, millions of years, and even basic weapon is great equalizer. Men being bigger and stronger is no excuse to have such huge disparity in numbers of available DV shelter beds between men and women. And specifically, going back to topic at hand, it's not excuse for feminists to actively trying to shut down shelte…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:07 PM
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People also heavily underestimate women's ability to gain strength. This is your claim. To underestimate something, it has to be done compared to something else connected. In this context I concluded, that people heavily underestimate women's ability to gain strength compared to men's ability to gain strength. Was I wrong and that was not your intention? In my opinion, most people do not estimate it at all. This would imply that if a man and a woman had the same starting strength, they'd gain st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 12:58 PM
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No it does not. First, there are very few DV shelter beds for men compared to ones available to women. Second, you lied intentionally when you included homeless shelters. It was clear for everyone that comment was not about homeless shelters. When over 90% of homeless are men, it would be weird if there were less such places for men. Does not make original claim wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:42 PM
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Just bringing it up is enough. I thought that there is some kind of large difference. Then discovered its just 0.15 percentage points. That is far too small to interpret as a real female advantage. The study did not claim that women gained more. Its statistical test found no significant sex-by-time interaction: p > 0.05. Using “both groups improved by broadly similar relative amounts” would be much more honest conclusion from you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 12:34 PM
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OP made same assumption you did. Plus it's a short term study, it'd be strange to expect massive gains. Difference is extremely tiny, you painted it much more substantial and somehow assumed that people underestimate it. I just wanted to talk about strength gain rates cause that's what I've researched before And honest way to frame it would be like I did. "Men started from being substantially stronger, and gain difference was too tiny to matter."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 11:54 AM
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Slop in becomes slop out. Yes, this is how LLMs work if you let them. Getting out good data from them takes a lot of work actually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:37 AM
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Interesting how you pick data and even more interesting what you leave out. In context of this discussion, I would say that fact in that study that men were substantially stronger both before and after training is much more relevant. Percentage gains of improvement were: men 11.61 and women 11.76. Can it support your claim that: People also heavily underestimate women's ability to gain strength. You make same mistake OP makes, and think that people underestimate it, I would say most people don't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:22 AM
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Your original premise is already wrong. The strength difference between men and women is really not as big as people think You make assumption that people think that. In my experience majority of women underestimate how big this difference is. So your argument is already up to weak start. I could just say that "The strength difference between men and women is really much bigger than people think" and it would be as true as yours. Because both opinions are quite hard to measure. Difference is, my…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:07 AM
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You recall correctly https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202207/who-likes-violent-porn-new-research-upends-expectations/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn/ https://www.psypost.org/new-study-sheds-light-on-womens-attraction-to-aggression-in-pornography/
/r/EverydayMisandry03/08/26 07:25 AM
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You see its totally different. It's ok to shut down steam because of visual novel games that contain some mild porn. It's totally not acceptable to shut down amazon for selling underage rape porn novels. Those are different. /s
/r/EverydayMisandry03/08/26 07:21 AM
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He just projects his own horribleness into half the population.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/08/26 06:53 AM
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Did you already forget what we were discussing? Let me remind you. Original claim that you disagreed with: Not to mention feminists actively trying to shut down shelters for men or any change to laws to give men equal rights to paternity and bodily autonomy. and you wrote then this: Most shelter beds are for men. I called you out, because you were dishonest. Everyone with open eyes know that "feminists actively trying to shut down shelters for men" means DV centers. There are domestic violence s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:39 AM
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We are speaking about South Korea. Like literally, you were one who inserted irrelevant goalpost moving into debate. English language 4B subreddit is irrelevant, as it does not show how many of them actually do it, and how many just larp.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 06:36 AM
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As non American I had no idea that such party exists. Let's face it, two big ones are so noisy that looking from outside it seems like nothing else even exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 06:35 AM
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Left and right dimension is irrelevant in this context. You can be left or right wing bigot. Usually I call them whatever they call themselves. Its just name, label. Even when wrongly assigned. So if party has name liberal in name, I call it that way, but I will always call them out for any and all illiberal actions and policies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 08:23 PM
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And you know very well he was not speaking about homeless shelters as those are not shelters that feminists try to shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:21 PM
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There is literally nothing to do. We just die off and people who procreate will take over. But there is no replacement for draft. Maybe when we work out autonomous AI land-drones who can do all the grunt work. But that's so dangerous, we have all seen Terminator.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 06:33 PM
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First you have no idea what being butthurt means in English. But that's not surprising of course. Second, I already told you that you are dishonest. So stop gaslighting. Go read again what I wrote, answer is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:31 PM
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Thats actually best definition I have heard. Now take yourself impossible task. Make them confess that this is their only goal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 06:30 PM
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There are many movements where their actions don't match their labels. We should not let them take and bastardize those labels. When your actions are not liberal, it does not matter what label you use, you are not liberal. Liberals don't cancel people for disagreement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 06:27 PM
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There are definitely more than 5000 women in the 4B movement if you count English-speaking women. Prove it. But we were literally speaking about 4B in South Korea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 06:26 PM
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Most shelter beds are for men. You are misleading on purpose and you know it. Most homeless shelters (if those exist) are for men, because men are vast majority of homeless. Most bed in DV shelters are not for men. Those are shelters that feminists actively try to shut down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:13 PM
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4B in Korea is totally irrelevant. Less than 5000 women in that movement. Western noise about it is bigger than movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 01:03 PM
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Germany just did the exact same thing, and the state is already bringing down the hammer on guys who resist. There is difference. You already had that law (over 50 years now), it was just not enforced. Right question would be to ask instead is, why wasn't this law removed. Answer to that is very simple, and it also answers same question for USA (or any other country really). You may disband draft law, you may include women in draft law. But all this is just performative and changes nothing in bi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 01:01 PM
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That's progress in equal rights. You see before there was possibility that men did not have right to vote, because he had no right for drivers license without registering for draft. Now this problem is solved, as every man is automatically registered US finally has equal universal voting rights. Before that only women had universal voting rights. /s - some parts at least, I wish at least, too close to truth actually
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 12:47 PM
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Im speaking about statistics where children growing up with single mom tend to be total failures compared to any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:03 PM
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Men do as little childcare as possible That claim really reflects badly on all women then. Considering differences in results when children are rised by men vs women. If men outperform women so badly while only giving minimum effort, we can make conclusion that all men are just so much better parents than all women. I kind of doubt that. PS! Single dad of 3 (all 3 grown now), so I know exactly how childcare works and how much effort it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:47 AM
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Everyone's sex drive is different From this (and I agree with this) we can conclude that: I don't think we can reduce any two groups' sex drives to being either the "exact same" or completely different. is false, we can easily reduce any two groups to have completely different levels of sex drive. But, in general, in my opinion, just from observation, men in average have higher sex drive than women. Some rare outliers are not enough to change main trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 07:32 AM
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I didnt say that. My English is bad, but its very simple. When you become bigoted, you stop being liberal. How the hell all of you skipped part "you stop being liberal"?? Seriously, its basic English. It means when you become bigot, you stop being liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 10:12 PM
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They can call themselves whatever they want. I have met sexists who claim that they are pro-equality. Does not make it true. Bigots usually are not happy about being bigots alone, they always do their best to limit other people individual rights. Like that whole 'cancel-culture' thing you had going in US is example of opposite to liberal mindset. Those are bigots. Even when they labeled themselves as liberal and progressive. Liberal means you can do what you want as long as you do not limit my r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 10:11 PM
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But this is not what I said. Sorry, English is my third language, so I must have explained something wrong. You can be liberal and then become bigoted (actually other way too), but then you stop being liberal. Core principle of being liberal is that you leave other people individual freedoms, and you expect them to do same. In my opinion bigots tend to be opposite, They are never happy when someone disagrees and try to enforce their "freedom" into others. That's opposite of liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 10:04 PM
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Well people refuse to explain to me what part of my claim is wrong, so I have no idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 09:59 PM
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Could you point out where I did that. I had no intention to paint anybody or anything as victim in any of my sentences. What I did try to do was to find out why people like you, think like you do. I still have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 09:58 PM
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Feminism needs to get men on its side in order to enact the changes it wants Have you identified what they want?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 01:46 PM
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Like liberal women are become more bigoted and radicalized. How is that even possible? When you become bigoted, you stop being liberal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 01:45 PM
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No they don't. It's women who do that. Its cultural toxic masculinity, men are conditioned to not show weakness, so most men avoid it at any cost. Playing victim shows extreme weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:34 PM
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No they don't. It's women who predominantly play victim. Both sexes do it of course, but women take lion share. For example I never play victim. Telling someone that they are wrong and showing them why, does not mean I play victim. I just do community service and teach college educated native speakers some basic English.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:10 PM
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Even when they were (and Im not claiming that, as I have not seen any proof), they have their right, just like you have your right to ignore them. You can create your own resort for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:09 PM
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Discrimination is not inherently bad. Discrimination against discrimination is good. So is discrimination against bigotry, racism, sexism and terrorism always good. As egalitarian I always do that. You can't use your freedoms to take away mine. This is how we are different here in Europe. We take our personal freedoms very seriously and don't succumb to group think as easily as people like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:06 PM
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I dont think you know what word victim means. What they did may be many things, but it has nothing to do with being victim. It's more about self improvement and finding inner peace without women. Its very healthy approach, but I agree that advertising was kind of shocking and lame, would not work on me, but that's because I'm cheap and won't pay for such service. If I need solitude, I just get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/26 01:04 PM
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What is this supposed to prove? That there should be no alpha retreats for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:35 PM
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Women don’t stop growth. How come? If their goals are such that including women would stop their growth, how come you can claim otherwise? Isn't it something that anyone can only decide for themselves? The bad part is their bigotry. That they think women stop growth. Is existence of retreat itself bigotry and bad? Or is that marketing campaign using this wording bigotry?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:34 PM
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So instead of getting money, like doing something for it, they decided that solution is to let in girls so they can sell cookies and earn boys money? What kind of misogynistic bigoted bullcrap is that? Why everything you say just paints you more and more as bigoted misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:24 PM
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See, it wasnt that hard. Lets go back to core questions now. Thanks to it, I also managed to find real quote. It was: “Women can’t access this place. This place banned everything that’s not making people grow.”, I guess its close enough. Why exactly is it bad? Is the bad part that women are not allowed, or that they think that women won't let people (in there) grow?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:22 PM
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In 2017, BSA reported about 2.28 million youth members across its programs. Girl Scouts had roughly 1.8 million girl members around that period. So boy scouts needed more members, but girl scouts did not. What kind of bigoted logic is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:15 PM
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I asked for exact quote. Sorry but I don't trust your English skills enough to just take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 10:13 PM
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then just call girl scouts "scouts". Why are you such a biggots and hate equality so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:56 PM
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I claim that you dont know what word bigotry means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 09:55 PM
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“Scouts” exist because Girl Scouts usually doesn’t have a major emphasis on outdoor survival skills or camping. And US solution to that is removing boy scouts? What kind of bizarre world is that? In normal society you would make girl scouts do those activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:19 PM
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They claimed that? I have not seen quoted claim. Could it be that you just misunderstand what was told? I have noticed that many people barely speak any English. Mostly native speakers too. I mean you probably misunderstand part of people. Did they really claim it about all people? Maybe about themselves? Maybe it was even about something else entirely that you interpreted as you wish to suit your narrative better? My claim is easy to debunk, show original quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 01:18 PM
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This is why I wish Trump didn’t go full bore into merit only. It screws over men. No it does not screw over men. Merit is good. Actual problem with your education system is that bar is too low. You need to rise requirements for graduation (and of course entering) from university, but you made it very lucrative business. University was historically something for very top end of people. Yes, there were always exceptions who got in because of money, but class issue is really separate from current d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 08:31 AM
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The current administration made it their crusade to focus on merit. Based purely on merit, girls and women outperform men in majority of academics. It really depends how you define "perform". Based on merit women outperform men in tasks where "average" performance is good enough. That's just math and logic, no need to even prove. When you go for tasks where you have to be above average, men tend to outperform women. It works with lot of things. Including education. Men outperform women when you …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 08:23 AM
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Scouts are a business, they have monetary incentive. How is it relevant? I know everything in US is business, but scouts are from UK. Being business is something they should not be. It is primarily a non-profit youth organization and US changing it to business is just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:53 AM
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I don't think you know what words self and victimizing means in English. Neither has any correlation with anything I wrote today.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:51 AM
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Questions cant be lies by definition, those can be leading so lie is assumed, but I don't see my questions as such. I asked for proof for your claims as you formed your opinion very weirdly. From you I want answers to support your original claim: What part of their post(s) is shit? I would also love to know why it's shit. I won't even argue about it, as something being shit is personal and different for everyone. So I would just accept your answer as is, I just want to know what makes someones p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 07:50 AM
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I think it's more about the constant repetitions and results that we see in male only spaces. I hope Im misunderstanding you. As I'm low IQ and you have 300 IQ, could you please expand it using much easier language. English is my third language and I never got formal education about it. But from this sentence I can conclude that you are extreme bigot. I had to google term, because greek life (“Greek love/way/custom”) automatically took me back to ancient Rome, where it was used to be connected w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:17 AM
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Because there weren't enough boys who wanted Prove it. Does not pass eye test. You just make less groups or smaller groups. and they had to include girls to get enough kids Yes, girl scouts already existed. Even when they were very tiny as there werent enough girls who wanted. would be ok with girl scouts if there were groups that did the same thing as boys scouts. Cool, do it then. It is not banned by law, so just do it instead of whining and taking over male spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:10 AM
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Stop your silly lies. Its in the name, boy scouts, there were also girl scouts. Now there is girl scouts and scouts. No more boy scouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:09 AM
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Because they are posting shit like this What part of this is shit? and claiming to be alpha only. And this is bad because? They straight up say women don’t let people grow. And this is not true because? You know its not enough to just say that something is bad, you have to show why it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:07 AM
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I will not check it out, but even without I can tell that they have no idea what alpha, bro or camp means and neither do you. They just assign random label they consider insult to that camp to vilify it. And so do you. Does not make it true. Problem with native speakers is that you literally don't speak any English and understand even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 06:05 AM
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They tell me that it’s because women are killed for simply being women and that it doesn’t happen to men or doesn’t happen nearly enough for the government to implement some sort of law like the “femicide” one. Ask for data. I did, they have none. I copy paste my answer to them, I never got any relevant data from any feminist who pushed that narrative. Governments do not gather data about issue, but already implement solutions. They don't even know if problem exists, what is the root cause or ho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/26 12:30 PM
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His argument is that since women do not avoid men completely, they do not actually believe in the risks they claim. Ok, I have different feeling when I read OP. I got more "women avoid selectively and tend to pick worst men and worst situations". This is what I have seen with my own eye during life and I agree. So, in my opinion it is quite good proof that those claimed risks are bogus. Those are consequences of their actions (selection) and can't be painted to most of the men and generalized as…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:00 PM
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It seems to me like you misunderstood point of OP. It's not so much about risks women take, those are just proof and examples to show how ridiculous mainstream narrative is. To me it seems that he is arguing against mainstream narrative feminists push that heavily contradicts everyones real life experiences. Those slop "science" examples do not pass eye test on first look, yet feminists keep using those as proof or source for things. Risks not being absolute, is in this context irrelevant. Relev…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 09:02 AM
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You have to ask them. Actually when you get chance, you should ask why they never push back when people use their study to push that 95% lie. It's not written there anywhere. Yet its widely used as proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:13 PM
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As they are clearly radical feminists who do not care about meaning of words but only live to push agenda, they use most radical definition of rapist. Every single CIS hetero sexual act is rape for them. I already told it, its very clear, there is no possibility for confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:07 PM
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I already answered that. When they reached conclusion that 95% of men are rapists (or potential), then its not huge stretch into all. But this is not really what I claimed. You left out important qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:25 PM
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What part of my comment makes you doubt my sanity? That I disagree with your original claim? just look at how many men claim “rapists make up like 0.0001% of the population!!” meanwhile this study shows it’s like 15%. As I disagee with 15%, you can be sure I also disagree about 95%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:37 PM
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I explained before everything you asked now. you did change it though? Yes, I wanted to know where is your line. How else can we reach conclusion about your definition? then you changed it to lying. Not changed. You established that talking is not rape. So I searched for new line, to see what do you consider rape. And you did define lying as rape. how tf did they pre select for rapists ?? I answered that. They included condition for having CIS hetero sex in last two years. As we have established…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 11:30 AM
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I did not change. I asked where you draw line. You personally. Just to show you how this whole concept is flawed and even kind of pointless to argue about when everyone has their own definition what it even is. We would just argue about semantics when we argue about that study. I'm ok with that. But I agree, it's totally out of topic and moving of goalposts. To answer your question with actual answer, as I consider answering question with question extremely rude. They pre-selected for rapists wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:17 AM
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Problem with this study is that they selected for sample that is not representative for men as whole and painted it as "all men". They defined "rape" as something that vast majority of people do not consider rape. They painted their conclusions as truth and many people keep parroting this conclusion, without support. Notice how 79% of their "rapists" were put under that umbrella because they talked to woman and told her what they thought she wanted to hear, we can't even be sure it was lie, it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:02 AM
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so you are just including looking at woman or talking to her as rape? where do you draw line?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:53 AM
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Depends from definitions. I live in one of the most secular countries in the world, it's west for east, but probably east for west. Culturally we are mix inbetween. American crazyness reaches here, is pushed hard by noisy minorities, and then it fails because its culturally irrelevant. Age-gap relationships are very rare in here. I'm sure its as rare as in rest of west, just because even in cultures/countries where its much more common, it's stilly tiny minority. I claim that this issue is overb…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:45 AM
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So your claim just look at how many men claim “rapists make up like 0.0001% of the population!!” meanwhile this study shows it’s like 15%. comes from Focused on a woman unlikely to tell anyone (15.2%) Interesting part to use to claim that 15% of the men are rapists. Just out of interest, where do you draw line between rape and consensual sex? Also, in study itsself there is actually two possibilities to reach your conclusion: 15.7% reported using exactly one of the 12 items in the authors’ “forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:22 AM
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where did you get 15% number?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:44 AM
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This study does not measure what you think it does. This study was not even done about men. This study studied how self-proclaimed rapists would act.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:20 AM
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They do it just to cover up class divide. As distraction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 08:58 PM
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whenever there is a war and the conquerors are given a free pass to rape whoever they want, what percentage of them participate? I have no idea, as I have not seen any numbers. My gut feeling tells me its less than 95%. many men claim “rapists make up like 0.0001% of the population!!” meanwhile this study shows it’s like 15% What study? 15% seems too high, and I agree 0.0001% seems too low. You do understand that it depends how concept of rape is defined? I would even believe 95%, just because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:44 PM
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For some reason people seem to think that interest is binary. There are very few things in real life that are binary. Interest is never one of those. I agree in sense, that when there is no interest you should leave her alone, but it's much harder to define what level of interest. Everyone does it differently. I go for enthusiastic interest. But I'm one of the very lucky few who can afford to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:42 PM
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So lets make it very easy. Do you think 95% of men are (potential) rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:40 PM
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I'm not afraid of trans people in general. They tend to be not so dangerous when not aggravated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 04:25 PM
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I guess its possible of course. My problem tends to be that I don't care what random people think of me. I'm also in my 50s, and in average this is age range I communicate with. When my ex dumped me after 22 years, my best female friend literally told me, go find next one, just make sure she is not 17. Maybe it's just cultural issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:43 PM
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Go read again please. I literally said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:00 PM
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I’m a guy and I just don’t get #1 Thats your right. Just as DiCaprio has right to date 25 year olds. As I age, teens at the age of consent seem less attractive than women in their 20s. Thats normal. As father of 3 (2 girls), but sorry teens seem to be bit boring and shallow for me. But again that's my right, I can't enforce it on others. Maybe some old man is just developmentally stunted. Gervais was quite right when he talked about Hollywood, they do seem to be mostly uneducated sociopaths ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:28 PM
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Even regular age gap relationships are extremely hard to pull off and happen very rarely. Someone who "constantly go for teenagers at the age of like 30 or 40" is literally insane qualifier, vast majority of men can't even get close to that. Even Leonardo dates older than teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:24 PM
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likelihood of differences in life experience, financial independence, and power can increase. And in real life, nobody cares. Its only permanently online no-lifers who make it seem important. A 35-year-old dating a 24-year-old What about 55 year old dating 24 year old? Why would you care? What can you do about it? Why should they care about what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:22 PM
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I think it's unnecessarily limiting. In my opinion all people who participate in reddit are toxic. I noticed it in myself, so I took it into my hands and actively work against it, and even then I sometimes fail. I think reddit is just very toxicity inducing. Mostly I blame administration and moderation policies, that cause enormous rift and create echo-chambers where wrong-talk is not tolerated. Root cause for it are very vaguely defined hypocritical rules that get enforced by admins on whim. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:19 PM
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No you did not. Also, you have no idea who answered. Amount of women larping as men here is staggering. But of course I don't know that either, maybe soyboys have really taken over reddit. Yes, men also frequently see and talk their friends, usually. But men friendship wont end just because life has taken us to different places geographically. What you describe is exactly why I told that you can't have more than 1-3 friends. Emotional labor is too time-consuming otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:10 PM
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I have never met guy in my life who had no friends. Because alot of the stuff you do in dating is really like hanging out with a person, especially first dates. That's interesting take. I never even considered it such way. For me at least, differences are enormous. If anything, I would compare it to job interview. have an actual conversation that isnt just flirting 24/7 Yes, this is what I meant. Those actual conversations go into interrogation really quick. I would prefer to chat about mutual i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:52 PM
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Yes, like every generalization it tends to be BS. Still its good indicator of trend. If you get 5 as a answer, I would say there is quite high probability that your number of possible partners is way too tiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:47 AM
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Men are generally nicer to girls with pretty faces. This is how biology works. You cant "social construct" away millions of years of evolution. This is also reason why that whole "body positivity" movement failed. You can't fight biology (or physics), you would lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:09 AM
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Because average is such a complicated concept. Math is really hard for most people. Avarage as such by definition often means better/higher than half the compared subset (mean would be someone in the middle of subset). Most mean women are delusional like that and not only understand they are below average, they think they are entitled to top men. It just does not work like that, as what woman would consider top tier man is different for women (there is of course overlap) and more importantly suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:05 AM
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Women can't be penis models (stolen from some US TV show that I don't remember name of, but its old). I can't think of anything else really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:37 PM
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Nobody will deny Misoginy that has been a thing for longer. I absolutely deny it. I deny it because misogyny semantically as defined today by feminists not only does not exist, it can't exist. If we use same definition as it used to be, "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women" and same for misandry. I would argue that each has existed as long as other, as two sides of same coin. Probably predates Homo genus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:34 PM
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AND here we go again. https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-resource-dv-lgbti-2020.pdf lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively). Not previous boyfriend, no family, no excuses, just facts: 'in an abusive same-sex relationship'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:31 PM
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Lesbian partnerships have the highest rates of Intimate Partner & Domestic Violence out of every group - gay men have the lowest. ((I swear to God, guys, this was a response I received from a proud feminist)) “Well, women are more emotional and have hired standards for our relationships. We care more.” I dont try to debunk you, I agree with you. I never gotten such answer. I have always gotten exactly the same answer: "that research counts DV done by men to lesbians before they came out and star…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:28 PM
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Try HR. I don't work in HR, but I used to write software for them, its such a collection of drama queens for some reason. And it's like 99% female, at least in my country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/26 01:24 PM
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We were discussing how you seem to think that PPB main narrative is 'all women bad', when it's clearly not. You must have some weird definition of passport bro. If you can't stand your partner being entitled to the same rights and freedoms you're entitled to, then that's not partnership that's a power dynamic What made you think that I want this? Im not from USA. But even I know that universal voting rights for men don't exist in USA. Women do have universal voting rights. So what right are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:00 PM
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It depends what you seek. As I told, people have different priorities. I enjoy simplicity that you find shithole. I also choose places where its peaceful. I just need good internet, and I have to admit that some listed places had problem with it. Tacloban and GenSan were not one of those places. Dumaguete is for example absolutely terrible for me. Yes, I did live in Cebu in total for around 3 years, did not like it, did not have much choice, business happens there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:30 PM
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Thats not good definitions. Its just too wide. You cover a lot of people who travel because they have other reasons than finding relationship. By your definition I have been passport bro since 1997. I'm white European and spent over half my time since then outside of my home country. Either for work, food, climate or vacation. I just enjoy it. Relationships happen, but those have never been in top 5 reasons why I choose particular country (if I get choice). I just arrived in Europe after spendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:26 PM
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It's not only men but even with the working class at large too. Yes, this is real root cause. It baffles me how people from US can label someone who hates working class as left. Being left is about worker rights over investor rights, that's core tenet and you can't drop it no matter what else you add. Democrats are not left, too corporate and hate working class too much for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 09:48 AM
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I have a lot of blocked users and never got any trouble from it. It's probably because I block power mods, flooders and automated scripts from irrelevant subreddits where I do not participate. So as I never interact with them anyway, it just keeps my feeds clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:43 AM
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Your main problem with anything (not just passport bros) is projecting and not understanding concepts you use. 'all women bad' is not mandatory nor wide-spread amongst PPB's. What you can get is 'western marriage laws are fubar' or 'western women want a lot and give nothing' thats not 'all women bad'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:00 AM
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You just play with definitions. That word salad means nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:54 AM
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The worst paid person in America is rich by any country you are thinking of visiting. And they still have atrocious QOL when earning minimum in US. Your prices are crazy and incomes are very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:53 AM
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Name 3 places on Earth where the median wage is the same or higher than what the average 35 y/o man makes in the US. Name 3 places where that wage gives you as bad quality of life as in US.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:51 AM
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A woman in Paris isn't poor enough to give some low value man a chance. Person living in rich city does not have to be rich by default. There are poor people living in those cities too. Low value is something that every person can only define for themselves. You get to decide your preferences. You can't do it to others. Woman in western Europe give men who you would consider 'low value' chances all the time. That's why most men are in relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:49 AM
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Sadly 50% is good divorce rate. It wont get you even in top 10 worst countries list. Yes, US is not in top 10. Its all filled with European countries. Depends, if you consider Greenland country, if yes and you consider it not European, they are 9th.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:42 AM
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Men aren't being shamed for shit. Why you think so? All men are being shamed for actions of tiny minority. And they do it on global scale, like UN. Men who are losers are. Very slippery slope. Everyone can be loser for someone, it means nothing. It does not make possible subset of men who are being shamed any smaller, just smack label "loser" on them, and done. almost always 100 percent oblivious to the fact that they are usually the chief beneficiaries of it You just believe journalists who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:36 AM
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Don't use complicated words you don't understand. Eliminating (actually avoiding) the concept of love and reducing relationships to pure transaction is much much much older and widespread than whatever you define as "red pill philosophy" is. It has actually been default throughout the history and all over the world. Concepts of "love and non-transactional relationsips" is very recent western invention. It needs rich and safe society, like west is now. I do not claim that love did not exist, it d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:31 AM
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You do not understand logic behind those claims. Number of men travelling is insignificant anyway. So your claim is kind of correct. But when you look at /u/k0unitX claim he is not talking about ratio from all the men. He is specifically speaking about age-ratio inside of this group of men who travel there. If it used to be 1% and now its 30% (just picked random numbers as its irrelevant) his claim is logically sound and yours is irrelevant and makes no sense. Where you could successfully attack…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:25 AM
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"converted" In my travels I met one PPB who converted to islam. We were having beers and snacked on crispy pata (deep fried pork leg). He explained it. No responsibility to do anything, just paper, just to make her family happy, home life is bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:04 AM
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The actual bullshit is that western low value men Can't be PPB's. They have no money to travel and live, when man has money he is not low value, for some reason money rises man's value in dating. Yes, in west too. Thats why so many western women have preference for six figures. women who don't want them actually give a single fuck about what they do with themselves. Women are not monolith, in this context we are obviously discussing those women who do give single fuck and show it loudly in socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:02 AM
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divorce rates are far lower for passport bros Its very hard to not have lower divorce rate than western countries have. Like top 10 of those are from west at least (I have seen list). I don't even remember in what place and what non-western country was highest, but US was also not in top 10, it was all European countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:59 AM
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You do understand that your definition basically excludes huge amount of self proclaimed passport bro's? I'm not one by any definition, but I have met many in my travels, had beers and healthy discussions. Vast majority of them can get sex in their home country, they do not go abroad for sex, they go for respectful relationship. Getting sex in west is extremely easy (can't speak for USA, can speak for western Europe), its getting good long term partner what is very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:58 AM
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Its surprisingly easy to find women to interact with in real life or in social media, or in internet in general. What is much harder is to find woman who has knowledge, experience and honesty to discuss hard topics. There are couple here who I disagree with, and sometimes we have very healthy and good debates, but they are extremely tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:52 AM
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When you say that you are PPB, how do you define it so you would fit under its umbrella? Most feminists I have debated with seem to define it as "violently misogynistic male sex tourists"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:49 AM
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Its selection bias, this is just only place where you go where you may encounter it. Just do quick google search (reddit search sucks) and you will find some discussions if you are interested. Put "passport bros" site:reddit.com into search bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:46 AM
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It has to be vague, otherwise they would have to look truth to the face and accept that its such a tiny fraction of total political violence that its literally irrelevant and no resources should be spent on it. They can't allow that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:26 AM
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feminism = against gender equality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:24 AM
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You could actually argue that TODAY in USA men have no universal voting rights but women do (you could also argue that neither have universal voting rights, but that's harder) and you would easily win with just logic, no sources needed. Feminist position is literally indefensible without fallacies, whataboutism and noise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:23 AM
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Do you have better links for 2 last ones? https://archive.ph/TkQBZ is dead https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/universal-manhood-suffrage/ is AI cancer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:21 AM
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We also should not forget that even today majority of men have no rights to vote. All this discourse is way too western, and for some reason ALL men get the blame for something that happened in USA, 100 years ago, for 50 years and is, as you say, was way more complicated than vast majority of them even understand.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:19 AM
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How? Only TERF's know how to define women in that movement and most of them hate TERF's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:14 AM
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It cant be cult. Its just too incoherent for it. Cult needs to have some set principles, "men are evil and bad, women good and oppressed" is just not enough. If you pick two random feminists and ask them what patriarchy (or misogyny) is, there is really high chance you get 3-5 different definitions and then they start fighting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:12 AM
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Only way to do that is to get rid of elections, I guess its next step. Then they can replace all male oligarchs with females. Then of course they will discover with surprise that nothing changed to better because common denominator for them is class and not sex. Then they will find way to blame that failure on all men like always. Typical playbook by stupid people who know nothing even about basic things, but love to look important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:09 AM
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No it was not. It was irrelevant noise to distract from real issues. Issues like fact that most women did not support it. Why? Because they knew that with rights come responsibilities and they thought stupid feminist rhetoric about "equality" was true, so they supported equality. Problem is, feminism has never been for equality, so it was false premise. Equal rights does not mean you have SAME rights. It means you have same same rights and responsibilities when possible, when not possible (for e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:03 AM
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It has nothing to do with my dating life, or women in general. It has everything to do with /u/pie-mart and me having very similar discussions multiple times before. In this example, she has no idea what I wrote, but she really wanted to answer. So she wrote something totally irrelevant to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:27 PM
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It's not about point of view. Its about you not understanding that most men actually kind of like sluts, do not belittle them, do not harass them. And especially, you do not understand that not wanting long term relationship with someone is not hypocrisy, even if you would enjoy same traits in short term relationship. Its all about definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:21 PM
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They want this mythical hypersexual freak who is only a hypersexual freak for them. This is your quote where you describe men as monolith. Even if its subset you label in some way (like red pillers) it changes nothing. Such men, if they even exist are very rare. You just have hard time grasping that preferences for long and short term relationships are different. OP is making same mistake and complaining about hypocrisy of men having those different preferences. Thing is, all humans have it like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:08 PM
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No, you are just unaware what words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:05 PM
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Red pill is totally irrelevant in this discussion as OP has no idea what it even means. Even men who are flat out red pilled (even without knowing it, yes such men existed decades ago too) are not acting like she describes. It must be some very tiny minority who she associates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:04 PM
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Yes, I base it all on your post. It seems to be only fitting explanation. Do you have better one? No they don't experience that kind of things. As I told you, slut shaming is predominantly done by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:57 PM
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For OP red pillers clearly mean 'men who do not agree with me', so it's just irrelevant label there. It changes nothing in my argument tho. No matter what subset of men you take, they are not monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:56 PM
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Thats literally what OP has written but from male perspective. Just clear and short.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:55 PM
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They want this mythical hypersexual freak who is only a hypersexual freak for them. Men are not monolith. Those are different men. I think most men are actually afraid of 'hypersexual freak'. Men in general tend to want to be able to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:54 PM
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So, they shouldn't be able to pick and choose when to be offended by it But being 'offended by it' is very rare, if it even exist. Women are often nice to look at. If men don't want to wife up woman they consider "slutty", it's not because they are offended by half-naked women in general. It's probably because they have preference for women who are not "slutty" for long term relationship. Maybe at the very least we should be able to call them hypocrites Of course you can. If you find specific ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:51 PM
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red-pill ideology and the manosphere You have no idea what those concepts even mean, so just don't use those in here. It's pointless, we understand you just mean men anyway. a lot are huge consumers of porn and are even proud of it. Men are huge consumers of porn, so are women of course, but yes men are probably more in average. You could argue that internet is for porn, thats why for example reddit does not close down its NSFW subreddits. When some app tries, it usually backfires. They also lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:43 PM
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Exactly true. As I also have never seen men who do this, it still works with pretty much anything. I have very different standards for long term relationship vs short term fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:21 PM
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women didn’t used to have the right to vote In some places, at some time. Specific grievance is usually about 50 years in USA. For example in my country men and women both got right to vote for exactly the same elections. legitimate grievances that could be made about gender discrimination against women Your example is not one of those. Nobody in 2026 should be even considering something that happened 100 years ago for 50 years as grievance against anyone living currently, on totally different c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 02:12 PM
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especially as reasonable claims can be made that Feminism has become opposed to gender equality. There is no becoming. They have always been like that. I mean 1913 book was written about it. So, no first wave won't get pass either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 10:07 AM
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You should base your actions on his actions, not on some random "desires" you invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:44 AM
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Its same place you got everything. Social media. Neither one happens in real life. Nobody has ever shamed me in real life for preferring slim women, not dating mtf or single moms. When I once mentioned it in reddit, flock of rabbid weirdos flooded me with irrelevant noise about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:37 AM
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The industrial society has pushed the climate on an irreversible course of warming. Thats correct. The current level of abundance enjoyed in the West is also not sustainable. I think we can continue on that path if we are wise. Problem is that excessive greed gets on it's way. We will see. Of course in my opinion, if our current level of abundance collapses, veganism would pretty much go away. There are very few vegans when there is little food. I know, I have seen with my own eyes. It "can only…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/26 01:47 PM
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Not so radically. We have even recent examples where pushing ideas of insignificant minority has caused quite destructive push-back. Modern day veganism can only survive in very rich society and even there it can only be extreme niche.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 05:11 PM
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Why would society appreciate someone who doesn’t contribute to it? This was original premise. I argued that its false premise to assume that they don't contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:54 PM
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No, not famous. Regular men. It has been going on for very long time. Every family has/had one or more. They were called "black sheep" usually. Very often they were (closeted or not) gay's. Very often quite successful and rich. I think it's mostly jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:06 PM
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Often they contribute more than average person. Such men are very often highly successful. At least visible ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:32 AM
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Yes, we lost sight of original premise. Happens sometimes. All vegans want is to switch to a more sustainable, more ethical system of production especially for food, which upsets many people because it requires personal sacrifice from everyone. Here. This is claim that I told vegans can't push in free society. So it would not happen. This is the point about what I told, that it's only possible with extreme violence and terror because vegans are 1% or less of population. Even if vegans were 10% o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/26 06:04 AM
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Moms are worst from those, they start nesting so there is more room for junk. Man can easily live from one suitcase, mom fills 2 houses with junk and complains that there is no room to store important things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:42 PM
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They just earn their salary. They have no idea what they write about. That's problem with modern governments everywhere, not just for you. People literally build bloated empires inside byreocracy, so sometimes they have to somehow seem needed and relevant. There is no cure too. Many things have been tried, even violence. Nothing helps, all this corruption grows back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:36 PM
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Those are all just pointless labels that get redefined by every person who wants, whenever it's needed, for whatever. Mean nothing really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:23 PM
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If you open your eyes, you would see that's not true. Just being alive, around women, you would reach same conclusion. Women constantly buy useless junk that nobody needs. All of you too, 1-2 who does not does not change that fact, there are too few of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:54 AM
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Do you figure liberal democracy will continue as is at the current rate? Im quite positive person. It has to continue till we invent something better. Currently there is nothing. I think it will even expand. You confuse the question of implementation with whether it'd be a positive thing. I don't confuse. I specifically asked for how it is implemented if force is not used. Vegans are like 1% of global population. I don't know any other way how tiny minority can implement any policy, they need fo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/26 04:49 PM
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90% is physically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:36 PM
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Why you keep asking for links when every time you get those you wont even open one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:36 PM
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In history, have there been times when something which was initially supported only by a minority became supported by the majority? Yes, there has been. It takes time. Veganism is so far from it that it takes very long time and even minor fluctuation in stability of our society would kick it back to zero. We can discuss it if you insist on disagreeing. I likely know Soviet history much better than you. Never say so. You don't know who could be on other side. He could not. Soviet Union was huge b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/26 04:15 PM
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Im very simple person. I say exactly what I say. I do not redefine. I do not abuse words. I don't play with definitions. I have no skills for it, English is my third language. Every time I open link to one of your researches, look at methodology and see how flawed it is. Just because they literally rape definitions of common words. I just open my eyes and look, and everywhere I look I see proof that narrative people like you push is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:17 PM
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In what world is claiming that you did 90% of house-work not whining and complaining? If you think it’s easy when they are older it sounds like your parenting is lacking. Teenagers still need a lot, in very different ways but it’s still needed. Men do it. We were discussing house chores split. You did not do 90%. It's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:30 AM
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All those "unpaid household tasks" are not hard, it's just part of being adult. No extra clapping is needed for performing those. There is a lot more than laundry when looking after 5 children. I know. I was single dad for 3. It was easy. Especially later. It's hard for first years, then it gets easier and easier. Looking after your kids is not "unpaid labor", it's choice and it's just part of life. There are hard things, but men can and do do those. Stop making it some kind of issue. It was not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:24 AM
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But laundry for 7 people does take a while. Yes, it takes while for machine to run, time when you scroll tiktok while "working". I know, been there, done that. My husband himself said I did almost everything and he was grateful for in the same way I was very grateful about the face he was going to work. Yes, I would also say same. Women need validation. I'm good man, I give my woman what she needs, even when it's lie. At no point was I complaining or saying he wasn’t doing enough. 90% is logical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:30 AM
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No I won't. I have done it here multiple times. Even to you. There is no point. You won't change your opinion. You won't even read anything written and if you do, you won't understand it anyway. It was right here, when we argued about what constitutes as homework tasks. All listed were the ones predominantly done by women, all excluded were predominantly done by men, even when done for home and family and unpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:11 AM
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Men work outside, women both work outside and inside the house No. That's just dishonest lie. I'm over 50, I have never met man who did not work inside house.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:06 AM
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Feminism does believe that men can be victims of the patriarchy. Feminism can't define what patriarchy is. When you can't define something, what you believe about it is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:05 AM
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Its just play with definitions, bad methodology. They define tasks men do as "leisure time", done, message pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:02 AM
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No, women just define everything men do as something that is not "taking care of the kids" and then complain that men do nothing. Usual dishonesty
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:00 AM
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When I was off work on maternity I did 90% of everything in the home. I doubt that. 90% is a lot. You probably just did not see what your husband did. Usual thing. All this this statistics just skips tasks done by men. Also you probably did it like women usually do. No, laundry does not take 4 hours when you run machines, it takes 10 minutes where you actually do something. All this home work is easy and fast. Lot of machines to help us. No big deal whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:59 AM
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That's not what I said. I just explained why men are over-represented on both ends. It's just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:14 PM
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Any policy has to be enforced, even in a democratic society. Yes true. Difference is that in democracy you need voters support to enforce it. If all the voters say that this will not happen, it will not happen. That's rather contrary to reality. Yes, what you explain is common myth. Reality was not that simple. But, it's pointless to discuss.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 08:13 PM
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No, force is not required. How then? Policies have to be enforced or be really popular so people follow those on their own will. Otherwise those just fail. There are many examples. Currently, besides the forcing of animals to suffer, vegans and nonvegans alike are being forced to pay taxes to keep meat prices artificially low. So we agree then. Taxes are enforced. By threat of force. If you refuse to pay tax that keeps meat prices low, you would get punished by fines, or maybe even jail. This is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 05:31 PM
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My take was not about trying to create any kind of taint by association. It was trying to explain that you need authoritarian system to implement it. You could have just the same said Stalin was in position to implement veganism yet failed, and it would have made about as much sense. He could not. Soviet Union was huge bardak, everybody constantly ignored his orders. It was all about face, much like in Asia. But its also quite irrelevant, as you are kind of correct considering what I really said…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 05:22 PM
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Im speaking about All vegans want is to switch to a more sustainable, more ethical system of production especially for food This claim. It's only possible if you use force. Lot of force.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 04:50 PM
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You did not read what I wrote. I said that he was in best position to enforce such thing and even he failed to (try) implement it. It's exponentially harder to do in free society. Your Taliban example could probably do it tho.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 03:54 PM
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Very easily. Because vast majority of men had no power in society and were not class and did not oppress. Not historically and not now. Not everyone, there were few people who did oppress others. But that was not sex issue, it was class issue. It's just wrong to paint it as sex issue. Not everyone should be instead 'not vast majority' and it's correct. Also, nobody is at fault of actions of others. So any kind of painting someone as oppressor can only be personal and not based on their genitals …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:33 PM
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But we are discussing original premise: Feminism paints men as an oppressor class even though a large portion of men have zero influence or edge over women. So you are saying to me (and please correct me when I'm wrong, I hate strawmanning) that it's ok for feminism to paint all men as oppressor class everywhere in the world because 100 years ago for 50 years in USA women could not vote while men could? You are aware that most men can't vote today? I dismissed your take about bank accounts as it…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:30 AM
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I don't care how many CEOs are men. Exactly my point. It would be just bad example. I did not use it to dismiss anything. I used it as example. There were plenty of systemic barriers that limited women's power List some such as being denied the right to vote or even open their own bank accounts. Not those. Real ones. Still happening in western society. Not something from Afganistan or 100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:14 AM
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Reading romance novels about bad boys and vampires and such are enjoyable for the same reason it's fun to look at sharks in an aquarium. You don't understand what is wrong about it. It's not wrong that you have those books. Go nuts. We are supposed to live in free society. What is wrong is when you send payment processors to kill very mild male porn while they don't kill amazon or wattpad over that smut. Equality you know, if your books are so dirty that we can't make movies or games out of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:08 AM
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34 Equating the Movement with the Cause "If you're not a feminist, you must be against equality." This makes it impossible to critique the movement's methods, priorities, or claims without being positioned as morally opposed to its stated goal. Related to #9. It does not make it impossible. It does not make it harder to critique compared to any other talking point. I just prove them wrong by giving example how feminists are against equality. They of course switch to some other fallacy immediatel…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 11:03 AM
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Vegan arguments containing logical fallacies are not nearly as common. They are just so tiny minority, feminism is mainstream. It's just matter of numbers. All vegans want is to switch to a more sustainable, more ethical system of production especially for food, which upsets many people because it requires personal sacrifice from everyone. This is not how free society works. They can try to implement it under autocratic rulership. But, even most famous vegan failed with that. It is not fallaciou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 10:54 AM
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All such movements are outside of right-left wing scale. There are more dimensions to political views than just right/left. But in general you are correct. Being left is about worker rights, simple blue collar workers are mostly male. Feminists are against their rights and want them oppressed. So, logically most feminists are right wing as they would usually choose company rights over worker rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 10:51 AM
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Of course there is specific point. I just wanted to know your definition of feminism that is based on accurate summation of feminist thought. There is no rush. Sleep is much more important than random internet strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:45 AM
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Yes, I was blind, my bad. It was in thread title. You are correct and I was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 09:44 AM
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Thats nice answer, I accept it as is. Can we expand on it? I need some brain exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:36 AM
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Its silly to limit this question only to women. Men can also answer it based on their personal experiences. I think OP is suffering from selection bias. He just has preference for such women. They do exist, but are not as common as such men. Out of all my relationships, only one was with such woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:35 AM
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That this is not an accurate summation of feminist thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:30 AM
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Oh I see, my bad. I did not notice it. Thats wrong of course. Clickbait probably as OP has nothing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:29 AM
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Did you see that leap? Link me to it please, as I did not find it in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:11 AM
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that doesn’t make women a monolith. I don't see OP claiming it anywhere. Could you please link it? And “high value” and “low value” men aren’t scientific categories. True, some generalizations can be made, but mostly every person gets to define it for themself. I mean everyone can decide what they prefer and what traits make their potential partner either low or high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:10 AM
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Even slightly flatter have significant outcome on both ends, considering both genders have about equal amount of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:05 AM
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Why not? Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:01 AM
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No need to always temper my responses Seriously? You literally know nothing of men. If you don't do that, you will get beaten often. Violence against men is normalized in our society. I could be direct. You should be direct. That constant wiggling is annoying. Say what you mean, it's allowed. At least for us in western society. Being direct is good. No one would assume I was bad at math or science Generalizations exist, but only stupid people think that generalization is always correct. It's bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:47 AM
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Men were allowed to vote long before women. Vast majority of men can't vote today. You are way too US-centric. In my country both men and women got right to vote exactly to same elections. What you said, literally means that between 1870 and 1920 women in USA were not first class citizens (yes, I'm aware that those dates are only legally "correct"). It's for 50 years, over 100 years ago. So after that women stopped being 'not first class citizens'?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:38 AM
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But it would only make sense if you compared them to similar control group. What feminists get wrong is that they don't compare at all. They just look at some arbitrary number and misunderstand it and scream 'oppression'. Majority of women were not 'first class citizens', but neither were majority of men. So their claims are just dishonest. They just refuse to understand even basic words in English and they keep redefining what words mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:33 AM
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Men need to ask permission from their wives to open bank accounts and credit cards until 2082. Ok, but you take responsibility for their debt then. Just like men did back then. That was reason why men's permission was required. Men were responsible for their female family members debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:29 AM
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His original premise is: Men are not monolith Women are not monolith But men are less monolith than women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:27 AM
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For something to happen at a societal level, it has to be more widespread and common than just "over 50% of CEO's are male" You have to show and prove that males had some kind of widespread systemic and cultural power over females. If males and females are oppressed by elite class similarly, then common denominator is class not sex. It's pointless and dishonest to suddenly make it about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:26 AM
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Men on this subreddit proudly talk about how they pump and dump and treat women poorly when they’re ugly or not worth commitment. Really? In reddit? or literally in PPD? Could I get some examples please, because I have literally never seen it anywhere in reddit. You must be going into some really weird porn subreddits. Even the ‘cels here say that undesirable women “deserve” to be abused or otherwise treated badly because they are not high value Again, never seen such claim. Not even once. Well,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:15 AM
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which factors you look at This part of your sentence is doing all the heavy lifting. It's just pointless excuse to make rest more believable. Yes, there could be factors that does not align with theory, but it's irrelevant because this is not what it's about. Nobody ever claimed that it works with all factors. Is there evidence that males are often more variable on some traits? Yes there is. Scientists are not generally doubtful that greater male variability exists in some domains. So you are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:12 AM
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I don't know. I'm from Europe not US. Never met religious freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:34 AM
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No, it usually is not worth to wait. Good relationships rarely happen without sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:50 PM
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Hookup was there as example by me. I expanded it later to clear your confusion as it would work similarly with any other examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:48 PM
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No you did not use word hookup. I did you guys just don’t wanna be honest what what you’re actually upset about. I was answering to this one. It's not that we don't want to be honest about what we are actually upset about. “Being nice doesn’t make a man more attractive!” We can just expand concept of hookup if it confuses you. That sentence means that being nice won't change our chances with woman, it does not increase or decrease chance with anything, not with sex, not with relationship (no dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:01 PM
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So I didn’t misinterpret, you guys just don’t wanna be honest what what you’re actually upset about. No. You just take basic words and make those mean whatever you want those to mean. Also, nobody is upset about it. It's quite irrelevant. Women can find someone attractive and not want to hook up with them. Of course, I never argued that they won't do it. Go nuts. Nobody can stop you. We live in free society. Men do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:52 PM
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Most men ignore irrelevant noise and don't care how strangers see them. For example: Quotes like “Being nice doesn’t make a man more attractive!” You just misinterpret those words. Actual meaning translated to common language is 'being nice won't make your chances to hook up higher' So are men happy being considered attractive but no one wants to be around him? Indifferent would be better word to describe it. Happy is way too strong emotion. Are men happy being considered attractive but doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:08 PM
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That's just play with words. Probably concept of 'sexual violence' was redefined to something that happens often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 04:59 PM
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Because statistics is lie. Well not all statistics, but vast majority of people do not understand what it shows and misinterpret everything, so even if it's not lie, their misinformed slop conclusion is lie. When I go out to potentially dangerous situation, I take precaution. I leave expensive stuff at home, I take throw-away phone and wallet with me. I don't wear jewelry. I wear old/ugly clothes. I let people know where I go and when I return.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 04:57 PM
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That's just stupid. Communication is important in relationship. Your mouth is not just for eating, it can sometimes form words, just tell him to leave it to kids. Of course I'm quite sure he would just buy some more as needed. I always did. He is probably living in modern western world.
/r/EverydayMisandry04/07/26 10:30 AM
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I want men to monitor themselves We do stop doing that We did. For some reason now women flood social media with complaints about it. Those few men who actually did need to learn that lesson learned nothing of course. See, you can't fix such things with slogans or add campaigns.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:23 AM
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Your personal experience does not invalidate gathered data and done research results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:21 AM
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If being stronger is innate/natural privilege, can we say same thing about women in average living longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:20 AM
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How many violent misogynists do you know personally who have girlfriends Not OP. But I know 0. Because I know 0 violent misogynists. Depends how you define misogyny of course. I define it as hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:26 AM
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And yet you redefined concept of incel by removing "involuntary celibate" part and including "violent misogynist". Does not compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:22 AM
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Thats even irrelevant as vast majority of them were just regular kinky people participating in their kink chat. Undefined amount of them were women. One person was arrested. So we know that at least some criminals participated, but its not even close to 62 million.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/26 10:22 AM
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Again this stupid thing. Even if it was 62 million users (it wasnt) they always ignore that % of those users are women. Considering that this kind of videos align more with female sexual interest, we can deduct that there is high probability that % of women amongst those 62 million estimated visits is higher than on more mainstream such sites.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/26 10:20 AM
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but you conveyed a meaning that could be summarized with that word. No I did not. You just misunderstood it on purpose. Quote exactly sentence that made you think it conveyed such meaning. I never thought you force anything, I think you misunderstand everything. I don't think that you have any power to force such thing. Oh please, older men do not have money. Most of them are old and broke. Of course they are old, thats part of definition. They are not broke compared to other groups. That's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 07:03 AM
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Yes, because English is my third language. Also, I do it on purpose so people won't go all feral on me and claim I'm AI. you can't be talking about people being illogical. Of course I can. Logic transcends language. It's very simple actually and your conclusion is highly illogical. You have no idea how delusional old men are. I do have. I'm one. I know many. Thats different from you. No idea, because you probably never left the basement. You know nothing of me. But you should know that older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:41 AM
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then it suggests partner choice isn't based solely on physical attraction. There are women for whom attraction plays no role at all. This is just how life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:11 AM
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Its all on you. You don't understand how much older men understand their undesirability. You just imagine things. Its easy to see when you actually observe older men. and I can link the study if needed. Why write that instead of linking it? Older men frequently operate under the assumption that they are highly desirable to younger women. Very few of them, and usually then they are. Its impossible to measure btw. It's just your emotion, impossible to prove or disprove. Definitions of older, men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:07 AM
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You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Also what you write has no connection with anything I wrote, or comment I answered to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:35 PM
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Your answer has no connection with anything I wrote. You probably put it under wrong comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:34 PM
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I was not complaining, it was example of common complaint that is not "The only empathy they expect in return is women giving them sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:47 PM
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No. Having organized feminist movement that affects country governing would make country more feminist. This is how words work. Words have meaning. No way Korea and Japan is the most feminist Most feminist on country level are countries that have strongest feminist organizations and implement their policies. Having some irrelevant statistics won't make country more or less feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:40 PM
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Men are told to open up more. Not seriously. It’s just an insult disguised as advice. The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. That's on you. Either you imagine it, or you are surrounded by very weird men. You should choose your friends better. Never met even one man who would/did respond like that. And then wonder why it's backfiring That's also on your mind only. If there are some men in the world who wonder it, it's such tiny fraction it's not even worth mentioning. Or deb…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:53 PM
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No they don't. As I told you, you have no idea what those words mean. So just stop using word feminism/feminist. Protests by people does not make it feminist protest, or feminist movement. It does not even matter whose definition of feminism you use, it would not make sense under any definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:43 PM
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They don't. Its all only in your mind. If it was true, PPB would not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:20 PM
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No way Korea and Japan is the most feminist (or egalitarian), are you serious. Most feminist as having strongest, loudest most visible feminist movement. Your English is very confusing. There is a big gender war in Korea. Exactly. Making them probably most feminist in East Asia. Even statistically (which I don't trust 100%) Mongolia is more feminist than every east asian country As I told you multiple times. You use words wrong. Feminism/feminist does not mean what you think it means. https://wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:19 PM
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Its not about good enough. It's about your claim about equality. It has to be based on something, and that something has to measure equality. As commonly defined, not some new bizarre bastardization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:14 PM
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I have tried. None measured equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:31 AM
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I don't know any that would measure equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:23 AM
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Compare that pre 20th century Europe where women where expected to be house wives and submissive Thats just not true. If you define "house wife" like that, you must also define pre 20th century European men as "house husbands". Most people historically worked in place where they lived. "wife cooks and cleans, husband goes to factory/office and earns money" is modern invention and I would even say quite US centric. It was not that common in my part of Europe. Women similarly also had to work outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:22 AM
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Mongolia also doesn't rank particularly highly in statistical gender equality measures Witch one? Could you please link it for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:13 AM
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So basically traditional gender roles for men but not for women? Higher level of social participation does not mean that women have non-traditional gender roles. In my country women also had much higher social participation of women before Christianity was imported. So you could say that higher level of social participation IS their traditional gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:12 AM
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feminism (or at least gender equality) Because feminism has nothing to do with gender equality. Feminism is for women's rights. It is the most feminist country in east asia. No it is not. I would say either Korea or Japan, but that's irrelevant as I already explained. suggesting that masculinity and gender equality are not always incompatible. Incompatible is wrong word here. You just use words where you have no idea what those mean. Masculinity/femininity has never been incompatible with equali…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 10:09 AM
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There is a reason they call pass port bro "losers back home" Yes, jealousy if you can't even get a woman in your own home country Most of them can. You forget that vast majority of men have no resources to go anywhere. Its not even so much about money, but its about time. Of course you probably even have no idea what PPB even means, you just define any man you don't like as it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:15 AM
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This is a talking Point that a lot off Men dont want to accept. Only in your brain. Majority of men know and accept it. Have always known it. Long before you were even born. A lot off Men like to believe that Money and Status is "fair game" and that every Man on the Planet has to use it. This word salad means nothing. Except most men know that there is no thing in the world what "every man on the planet has to use". World just don't work like that. if you have to use ur Job, a Car, a House or an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:12 AM
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"pulling a Wife" Is easier than pulling hookup. Amount of women who want to be wifed up is staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:03 AM
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I don't hate anybody. Not women, not feminists. Hate is strong word, and very strong emotion. Hating someone takes a lot of energy, I rather spend it on positive things. I just try to educate you (and your confused friend) that words in English have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:50 PM
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Three of these are so vague they can't be discussed Only if you don't understand basic English or live in echo chamber. there's high risk of sexual violence once homeless Vast majority of homeless are men. It's not even close. Anywhere. But I was speaking about DV shelters where every time men try to open one (there are thousands for women, in my country those are maintained by government money) feminists gather and get it closed. Let me expand on other three that you found vague. Normalization …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 03:33 PM
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Normalization of systemic misandry when systemic misogyny was eradicated decades ago? Money spent on unproven trivialities? Shelters for women and not men? Pushing irrelevant narratives instead of helping men to eradicate real problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:33 PM
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She in particular supported the point that we are leaving in post-patriarchy. Just wordplay. Before she claims anything I need to know how she defines patriarchy. Also it would be interesting to know why there is like 2000 competing definitions that change daily depending what talking point feminists need to push. Patriarchy as defined by vast majority of feminists not only never existed, it could not exist logically and semantically. Their definitions are just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 02:10 PM
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feminism challenges social hierarchies No they don't. Replacing top end male leaders with females does not challenge social hierarchies as whole. It literally changes nothing. traditional gender roles that some people derive status, identity, and self-worth from. Again, no they don't. Some of them do, but that's very tiny minority. Almost not existent compared to mainstream feminism. Vast majority of them want to eat their cake and have it too. When your sense of value depends on existing power …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:51 AM
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Its pointless play with words and misunderstanding of definitions. Question should be how do they define concept of "feminist" and why it's wrong. Can you be feminist if you do not subscribe to patriarchy theory? What about intersectionality? I believe women identifying as feminists deserve benefit of doubt and presumption of being egalitarian not cakist or misandrist. If it tells you that it is a duck, you should still observe if it walks and talks like a duck. Sometimes chicken thinks it's a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:44 AM
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endometriosis research is chronically underfunded How to fix it? Raise NIH budget? Or take budget from cancer, HIV or heart diseases?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 11:13 AM
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easy to find similarities is why they are grouped together Only similarity is that those areas are mostly male. MRA's care about things like family law, schools, or healthcare, and argue mostly for policy changes. That puts them in a very different category from other groups. Red pill usually don't believe in group solutions. If you simplify, they mostly just subscribe to self-improvement as solution for your problems. Incels think the opposite. They seem to believe their results are set by biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:39 PM
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safer and better regulated than it is. You can't do that. Who decides what makes something "safer". There are some things that should be regulated heavily. But for some reason those are not. In same time I got warning from admins for mentioning women situation in Afganistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:35 PM
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There are plenty more. Whole concept of manosphere is just so weak, amorphous and useless that its actually very hard to find any kind of common story amongst them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:21 PM
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Don't put words to my mouth and keep on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:42 AM
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Most people are good by default. Some get jaded as they age, so it changes. But even then, they are usually just more careful. There is still good core existing. Genuinely evil and bad people are surprisingly rare. I mean in real life of course. In reddit you can meet a lot. Probably most of them just larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:36 AM
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where is the evidence of this? In your brain. When you think about what words mean, you understand. What you said just makes no sense logically and semantically. It would only make sense if you used some weird invented definition. if most men love women, they do a really shitty job of showing it. They don't somehow the tiny minority of misogynists are louder than the men who love women. Its on you. You are one who goes to pointless circlejerk places where few such people exist. I rarely meet one…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:16 AM
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You are just playing games. Its quite clear from context that I was speaking about your original point, that point was not about Taliban. When you say: most men who say they don’t care about a woman’s income are usually misogynists It's clear from context that you mean men who say that, in west, now. Not men 1000 years ago, or men from Taliban. They do not say that, so they are irrelevant to current point. i did in fact say the men who say they don’t care about a woman’s income are usually misog…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:34 AM
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I thought we are speaking about current situation in west. Men in Taliban do not care about woman's income because they won't allow their woman to work anyway. Also, we are speaking about marriage (like) relationships. Not hookups. Yes, misogynists who hate women usually do not seek long term relationships with them. Why would anyone seek out something they hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:22 AM
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men, especially nowadays, are told their whole lives that marriage is an enormous risk for them financially. No they are not. It's very fringe and not mainstream. Most men are blind to those risks even now. If we go back to my youth, it never happened. most men who say they don’t care about a woman’s income are usually misogynists who think a woman’s purpose in life is to cook and clean, or they are broke themselves. Very few men say that, but those who do are usually not misogynists. Depends ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:12 AM
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The only common story among manosphere men is how women won't date them. Depends how you define manosphere. Most common definition for some reason includes MRA and they concentrate on totally different issues. Red pill is usually included and they concentrate on what to do to get women to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:06 AM
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Respect is earned and not given. You probably mean basic courtesy and indifference. This is baseline.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/06/26 09:00 AM
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Before you can say something like that you have to define what patriarchy is for you. Using any of competing feminist definitions leads nowhere. I have not found even one such that ever existed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 08:38 PM
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When CPS worker reports case it does not mean that its true. Even convictions are not always true.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/06/26 03:07 AM
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The graph is based on numbers reported by authorities Who based it on self reports instead of convictions. You said so.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 01:53 PM
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Its not about belief. It's about numbers I linked to you. Your self-report numbers are not more precise than mine.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 01:50 PM
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No, I think when you look at enough data you get a general consensus that men commit CSA at a higher rate. You are just playing with words. Every single case of pedophilia is rape and assault by default. Women do more of those.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 01:42 PM
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When there is serious gender bias in sentencing, it means that CSA reports have to either account for it, or ignore it. Numbers are not good.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/06/26 11:24 AM
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One of you must stay at home and be adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:13 PM
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We know that CSA is really underreported Yes it is. Conclusion from data is that one gender is more underreported than other. Also bearing in mind that the study is based on information which asks the subject to basically self-report that they are a pedophile who engaged in pedophilia. Yes that's another good point. Self reporting is always suspect. Isn't it possible the data might be skewed because a lot of people would be way too afraid to admit that In this context it would only be relevant i…
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 02:12 PM
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Its quoting. Reddit uses markdown so I just use > mark. It should work on phone too. I don't like reddit on phone tho, so maybe Im wrong. I don't think any of my hobbies I would have to sacrifice just because I'm involved with someone. You are very naive then. I'm over 50, believe me, you will have to make sacrifices. There is only limited amount of time. Your partner (and children of course) will eat up most of that time. If we both wanna do different things we can go do those things It's possi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:02 PM
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I see a lot of people argue that a big downside of romantic relationships are the restriction of free time. In sense that you have less time for activities you want to do as some of your free time is consumed by activities your partner want's to do. if you need to get away that bad why even with someone in the first place? And that's why % of relationships is going down lately. Some people desire freedom for their own activities more than close relationship. Especially as incentives have gone do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:52 PM
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2024.2319242#d1e829 Open Table 3, look under pedophilia and look for "Engaged in %", notice results. Consider that engaging in pedophilia is rape by default.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 01:26 PM
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Before any kind of debate can be done, you should define what patriarchy is. If we go by mainstream definition your position makes no sense. The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. This is common definition used by feminists. Your position does not reinforce it in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:47 AM
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It's still irrelevant as it was not original premise. It's about ratio between men who uphold those values and women who expect men to uphold those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:21 PM
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Men dont upload more of the contact that she does I guess you meant uphold and contract here. But he is not speaking about if men uphold it more or less. He claims that women expect it more, as time goes and that "queer utopia" forms, gap between men still upholding those values and women who still expect those values will only grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:00 PM
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I think "or something" is end-result what comes in the end when that "queer utopia" collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:55 PM
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Yes they can, and also do it very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:52 PM
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Are the majority of those men able to run a household? Yes. Or they will learn when they are finally alone. There is nothing magic in it, it's very easy. Men have invented and produce lot of machines to make it very easy. Can they clean up to the women’s standards What does it even mean? There is no such thing. Everyone cleans up to their standard. This is how life is. cook, grocery shop Of course. Again, it's just part of being adult. Weird thing to even mention. I did it when I was 6. maintain…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:39 PM
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You’re living in a fantasy world. Its you. You just live as privileged subgroup in richest and most privileged society there has ever existed. As society even US is not rich enough to continue like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:32 PM
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I mean use same label for all those groups. Things you listed are not ideology. Those are observations and conclusions. If I simplify a lot, I would say that main core tenets for them are: Incel ideology is that there is no point to even try to get female partner as results are set by biology or life situations, and their efforts won't make a difference. TRP ideology is that you should improve to become more attractive, so you can get laid. Seems like quite opposites to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:20 PM
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due to mismatch in household chore responsibilities How do you know? I have not found even one honest research about it, yet its very commonly claimed. This idea that it’s harder than ever to find a woman bc you must be xyz box as a financial provider is simply faux propaganda from the manosphere. What part of manosphere? Incels and blackpill who have given up on dating, so they don't even speak about being "financial provider" to woman. Or red pill and pua who just bump and dump and push propag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:07 PM
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Red pill and incels are ideologically about 95% identical. Red pillers are no more successful, as evidenced by this sub. Then use same label. Why generate unlimited amount of labels that in the end have exactly same meaning. It gets complicated for non-native speakers when meaning of words is changed weekly. Also 95% is enormous overestimation. In that case you should be able to give at least some ideological overlaps between two. In my opinion RP is way too amorphous to even have ideology and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:48 PM
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That's really good to hear. I wish you luck, you are on good path. "No true Scotsman" is very common in debate, but you could always point out that it's pointless to debate about it as they are not high arbiters who get to decide who are real feminists and who are not. Just ask them to define that concept (like feminism) then and ask them why do they exclude some other group. I did it here for example: https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1stlw97/dear_feminist_guests_mainstream…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 01:22 PM
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So how did your debate go?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 01:13 PM
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Height is fourth and acts more like baseline. You need to be this tall to get onto this ride. It's somewhat flexible, but it's not as plastic as top 3 traits. I would say: 1) social status 2) money 3) hotness 4) height First free can compensate for lack of every other trait, but compensating for being short is complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:11 PM
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The red pill was never going to work because it was based on the premise that the least successful, least experienced men somehow know the most about dating and attraction. You are describing incels/black pill. There has to be difference or otherwise there is no need for different concepts. we could just name all of those with one label.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:06 PM
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Who even claimed that TRP would or should work for most men? It seems to me that you are trying to break through open door here. TRP did destroy The mainstream fantasy that was “just be yourself, work hard, and someone will love you.” By claiming this, you also kind of claim that it did work for most men. TRP is just amorphous blob of advice formed through years because mainstream advice is extremely useless. Like any such amorphous blob, you can find any kind of advice that may or may not cause…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:58 PM
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Please read again what I wrote. You literally misunderstood everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:00 PM
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It's very bad and weak metaphor. Men are not m&m's, men are not monolith. We evolved to recognize signs of danger. It's easy in real life. Specimen who did not learn it, just died off. Problem is, that now-days it has just declared "problematic", so feminists take high-road and blame whole monolith of men for actions of tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:57 PM
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Stop those useless ad hominems. You make no sense. Just stop using words when you don't know what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:49 AM
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Of course you can. It's not even hard. Systemic oppression is oppression caused or maintained by the structure and normal functioning of a system, like laws for example. There’re so many challenges women face Your example can't be example of systemic oppression. You have to show how it is. Burden is proof is on you, as you made silly claim and instead of giving any kind of proof, you just keep throwing ad hominem my way in every comment you make.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:42 AM
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Thats another pointless ad hominem. You know nothing of me. You have not changed my perception that you have no idea what 'systemic' means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 11:58 AM
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How would you describe "one-way monogamy"? That has been my rule to my partners for many years. Long before red pill was ever formulated. What is wrong with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 06:22 AM
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I already know what systemic means. You don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 05:49 AM
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Ad hominem does not make your argument any stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:39 PM
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Not fully. There could be some other requirement too. But of course in pic based app, looks are majority of reason. Still maybe some subset of women also reject man based on profile info.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:01 AM
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There’re so many challenges women face As I told, challenge is not systemic oppression. Do not use words when you don't know meaning of it. If you want to use buzzwords make sure you are ready to back your words with facts. Your ad hominem is pointless, it does not support your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:06 AM
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Because I do have words to describe. Those words that those professionals themselves defined. And going by that it's you who do not understand what systemic oppression means. Only examples of systemic oppression in western societies in 2026 are ones that oppress men. I have not seen one example that oppresses women. Please give me one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:43 AM
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No logical man is going to spend that much money on flights just for an “average” woman. Maybe they are just European? Flight to Berlin for me is like 40-60€, not much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:58 PM
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I think his claim is more general. Not even about reddit, but even in real life or any other social media. I also agree with him. People who have not dated during "tinder era" just have no idea. Thats why I also clearly label my such advice with my age. As I'm over 50, my dating is totally different compared to younger guys. It's actually exponentially easier than it was when I was in my 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:29 PM
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Sometimes debates here are about dating. Also, his post is flagged debate by him, so he does expect people to argue against points in his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:24 PM
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These are (in a good sense) traits of competence, not masculinity Good thing about masculine traits is that every man can choose his own. Even you. Still it's not good idea to project those to others as monolith. One of the main traits of masculinity what most men subscribe to is DNGAF, this is what makes your projection very dishonest. Those traits are masculine. You don't get to define masculine traits as something that women don't have. All of these traits can be overdone, which is repellent …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:58 AM
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My college day's are long done by now. But you really do not need college education to understand basic concepts. Otherwise, just don't use words when you don't know meaning of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:02 AM
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You just use buzzwords without understanding meaning behind those. Very common with native English speakers. State of US education is abysmal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:20 AM
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Your post is generated by LLM. It's very obvious, don't need to even read it, quick skim shows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:06 AM
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can't address systemic oppression We can't address systemic oppression because every time we try feminists cry bloody murder and rest of women line up right after them no matter how many lies they throw into discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:05 AM
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why do feminists encourage men to go to therapy? They don't. It’s just an insult disguised as advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:03 AM
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Wdym by the usage of the term “lobotomize.?” Cutting off male based therapy is in principle quite similar to lobotomy. This cutting starts on educational level when men/boys are heavily discriminated in western education system and whole course is female centric. Result is that finding male therapist is very hard as they are just rare. If we want to improve it, we really need to have special programs to put more finances into male education at the cost of female education. We don't need such dis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/26 06:51 AM
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It still won't make it patriarchy. Patriarchy has hard time to exist because nobody knows what it is. When you ask it from two random feminists there is quite high chance you get two different and contradictory definitions.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 01:35 PM
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because cold approaching is very new. I'm sorry, but what? I'm over 50 and cold approach has always been default. Not cold approach has been kind of minority, usually through friends to approach friend of friend and such. I would argue that 30 years ago cold approach was much more common, that's of course my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:53 AM
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It's semantics problem. It depends how someone defines patriarchy. Problem with feminist definitions is usually that those are incoherent and can't exist because they muddle it so much.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 07:06 AM
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I actually agree that “Gynocentrism is not possible under patriarchy”. So existence of gynocentrism in western society is reason why patriarchy does not exist.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/05/26 07:04 AM
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So I see you have nothing then to prove your claim that women often hate men as a system not individual men where men often hate women as individuals AND as a system.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:03 AM
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Why are y'all expecting women to scold other women online for saying nonsense? Like when they obviously lie? Shouldnt they get scolded then? So maybe they learn and stop posting such filth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:31 PM
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Men have the red pill/manosphere/ how to rape your wife/gf and get away with it websites and legal groups who do nothing but try to vote away women’s rights. If you really think so, I feel sad for you. If I posted something like that (but reversed gender) to mainstream subreddit I would get my account nuked by reddit admins.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:28 PM
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women often hate men as a system not individual men where men often hate women as individuals AND as a system. So, you have any source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:27 PM
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Because men are not heard, men have no power to protect themselves. Like that 62 million bs. There was maybe 1000 men who maybe did something maybe. As soon as some man gave real data, I mean basics like what porn site is, that women visit those too, that women like that kind of porn in average more than men do, that visit is not person. He was attacked so viciously that it was not even visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:19 PM
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Problem here is actually you. It's how you personally define bashing. Bashing is not another buzzword to 'I do not agree' - just use some of the already existing words that mean this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 08:40 AM
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Being disrespectful does not hinder certain men chances of finding partners and is often rewarded by success. So yes, such men are procreating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:57 PM
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It's wrong that producers made such selection. But of course they went for maximum controversy to make it go viral. This is how marketing works.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:00 PM
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It has gotten better lately yes. Not that long ago men were constantly called out for having preferences to not date fat women or trans women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 12:47 PM
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I noticed that you are not person who started it. Thats why I asked if you mixed up. And then I asked you same question. It's not just one person. Most people here refuse to open any sources and even when they do open that source they don't have enough functional reading skills to understand what is written there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:21 AM
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Because they include calling her a land whale and that she's only useful for a pump and dump. This exists in your head. Very rare in real life. Men who have no fat preference do not pump and dump fat women also we do not call her land whale in this context, we do not even interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:12 AM
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Did you mix up who you answered to? My question has nothing to do with this or any other source. I asked question about your behavior, there is no need for source. Have you ever opened even one linked source in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:11 AM
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Sadly you are correct. I don't have good solution to it either. Every other way is even worse. When you get thousands of people under one umbrella, they tend to have different viewpoints. My economic views would probably drive many leftists mad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 02:53 PM
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I don't pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. You do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:23 PM
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I don't even get what are you trying to do here. You won't change my opinion. I'm sure I can't change yours.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 06:32 AM
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Have you ever opened even one linked source in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 06:08 AM
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"Sexually compatible" covers 90% of the stuff Do you understand any English? Surely, if you understand the English language as a primary speaker English is third out of my four languages. I never had any education in English. What is your excuse to pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:58 AM
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Its my personal experience. https://np.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/comments/1t4ssrd/most_incels_are_not_violent_and_misogynistic/ok972i2/ https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1sunrw1/whats_going_on_with_the_new_meaning_of_incel/oi27one/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 08:08 PM
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Woke meaning is not opposite for now. Socially conscious is different from aware of injustice, but it's not opposite. It's just in your mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 07:44 PM
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It's disgusting how you pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. I assume you are highly educated native speaker, as most of people in this sub seem to be. If not, I apologize. This is typical tactics women use to derail discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 03:13 PM
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Such things should never be about belief. It's core principle of functioning normal society that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 08:16 AM
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I'm not angry at all. I'm just tired of lies and misrepresentations. It's disgusting how you pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. I assume you are highly educated native speaker, as most of people in this sub seem to be. If not, I apologize. This is typical tactics women use to derail discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:57 AM
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You literally do not understand what I write. Your answer is irrelevant. Eh, unlike you, he shows his posts Irrelevant, I also delete all my posts. Even before hiding feature was introduced. Also, hiding does not work. I hate being doxxed, so stop trying. hockey going back for years Are you saying women are not allowed to like hockey? See, I can be dishonest and irrelevant and put words to your mouth too. There really are men out there in the real world that value communication, shared values an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:06 PM
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No, because she sounds like woman larping as man. Notice, I never told that she is not man. It's internet, people lie here. I said she sounds like woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 09:44 PM
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I would love to agree. I even agree that it should be. Sadly most of time it has been used, women have specifically told that it does not mean it anymore. "word has changed" is most common explanation. When I tried to push what it then means now, I got answer "violent misogynist".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 09:42 PM
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I thought I was clear. I did say that she sounds like woman who larps as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:02 PM
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I noticed. It's irrelevant to how I feel he made that list.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:18 PM
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Your list sounds like you picked some woman's list from tiktok, turned it bit over, cleaned it bit up and posted as larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:59 PM
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Yes, she sounds what normal female human should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:55 PM
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So my first question is what is wife material? Make my life easier. And then men put the most value on sex in debates here, there is nothing except sex it feels like. Could I have some example please? I have not even noticed that many debates about sex in here. Putting most value in sex in debate seems silly. It's just baseline. It does not define relationship, its base, additions to it are what define relationship. So one, why should women want to be wife material if doesn't seem like men want …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:54 PM
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Im not from UK, so I can't tell them what to do. But I can tell how I handle such issue. When I vote (most often soc-dems, latest greens) I choose literally what party has least shitty platform for me. Yes, greens were led by crazy feminist, yes they supported some crazy policies. But they were still least shitty in that sea of shit. We can't always get what we want. So sometimes you just have to choose one between all bad choices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 02:10 PM
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He is typical US nepo-baby performative leftist. His views are somewhat left, but he ignores core principle, main injustice and root cause why it exist. When you are rich, you are just blind to those.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 09:53 AM
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When 'racial injustice' is still part of it's definition, it still contains its core principle. Incel has lost it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 09:48 AM
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Its meaning has been widened into nothingness. I agree with you about that part. But 'racial injustice' was not removed from it. It's still there. Being woke even today still contains this part. For incels, "involuntary celibate" is totally removed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 08:50 PM
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"your body, my choice" and As non American I have no idea what this is. But reality for most of men is that they have no choice rights over their body. Draft and genital mutilation being prime examples. the online rape academy was a fever dream Yes, that was framed like fever dream
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:52 AM
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The women complaining about not being approached aren’t usually the ones saying not to approach. That's rich. Same could be said about pretty much anything you said in precious comment. They want trad wives but don’t want to provide financially. The men who want trad wives aren’t usually the ones who don't want to provide financially. They want virgins who fuck like whores. Same They want a 1950’s housewife with no agency or opinion but don’t want to be a leader or have their shit together. Same
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:48 AM
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Of course it compares to agriculture. You can easily make such comparisons when definitions are similar enough. Agriculture is roughly 25–30% of global greenhouse-gas emission, animal agriculture is included in it, but when we separate animal agriculture, it would be ca 14–18%. Fashion is roughly 2-8%. That's close enough to make comparisons. Also, when I claim "one of the" it does not mean top 2 or top 5, it could be top 10 and still one of the biggest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 06:05 PM
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Don't confuse biggest with one of the biggest. It's just basic English, but there is difference. Agriculture is biggest polluter yes. We also eat a lot, so its only logical it's biggest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:58 PM
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Interesting. I was starting to worry I remember wrong, so I went and asked too. The fashion/textile industry is a major polluter. UNEP gives a broad estimate that fashion produces about 2–8% of global carbon emissions, and textile dyeing is a major water-pollution source. UNFCCC has also cited fashion at around 10% of global greenhouse-gas emissions because of long supply chains and energy-intensive production. So you are in right ballpark. But still, those % are insanely high. It does make it o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:10 PM
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One of the biggest polluters in the world is cheap fashion industry, also it's transportation over large distances that is usually hidden under total transportation pollution. Why was this ignored? Because women fashion market is 2-3x larger than men fashion market. It will probably close the gap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 04:45 PM
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However most men, I see who try to learn behavioral disciplines like stoicism, continue to have anger issues, and keep being prone to violence Of course. Everyone has breaking point, stoicism does not eliminate it, it just moves it bit further away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:56 AM
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All you have said has been irrelevant to anything I said. Please read before you respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:53 AM
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Yes, exactly. They have tried. It does not change my world-view. I won't become corporate shill just because they say so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:52 AM
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Thats good question. It does/did not tho. Societies have always conditioned all its member no matter what their sex. Just different things. Most of this discussion has been speculation from my side. I think stoicism was/is more conditioned into boys/men because of violence. Its quite universal too. You can notice it in cultures that had no contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:23 PM
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Being leftist has nothing to do with it. I'm leftist because I support worker rights over corporate rights. There are people who are leftists but have nothing in common with me. Not even support of worker rights. There are also types who do support worker rights, but rest of their views are unacceptable for me. I can't deny their right to be leftist, I have no such power. People have right to identify as they wish, even when they have no idea what it means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 09:19 PM
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I said that its selection bias, thats not same as anecdotal evidence. There is distinct difference what those concepts mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:14 PM
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Was my point really so confusing? But saying "boys don't cry" in not a trait, or a behavior. I did not say anything that would lead to such conclusion. I said that it could be cause for why its considered masculine trait. Cause is not same as that trait. That saying is example of social conditioning that could have changed perception why stoicism as trait has been considered masculine. I could argue that boys crying in despite being told they shouldn't is proof that stoicism is not a male trait.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:13 PM
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I have no idea how you define it. So, I can't tell if version you subscribe to exists or not. Go to AskFeminists/wiki/ and look how feminists define it, I do not agree with them about this definition, but it clearly can't exist today in western society. The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. Its not men as a group who hold power, its very tiny amount of men who hold the power and vast majority of men hold no power …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:08 PM
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Yes true, but it did not lose its core defining principle like incel did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 04:51 PM
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Because masculine traits do not have all to be biological. Body shape can visibly be more or less masculine/feminine, but stoicism can't. how is it that it becomes considered a masculine trait, thats not really logical. Social conditioning. You can't change it in couple decades when it was created during millennia. Simple example "boys don't cry" could be root cause for stoicism being considered masculine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:38 PM
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Does not matter really who redefined it. I agree that it has been redefined too much, but woke as concept still has some coherence in it. Concept of "incel" literally lost everything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 04:34 PM
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Not all (or even most) men need to have trait for it to be considered masculine. Being stoic is usually considered masculine trait even when such men are quite small minority. It's just that there is even less of such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:05 PM
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In other words, the patriarchy is what enables this effect. If something doesn't exist, it can't enable anything. Before you use word patriarchy, define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:11 PM
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No. I think you don't really understand English.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:05 PM
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I doubt it's true considering how easily they handle men who cheat. Of course I don't know if its most, but I would think so, my own observation of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:37 PM
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Incel as a concept has lost all meaning since they separated "involuntary celibate" part from it's definition. Now it's just another insult to say "I do not agree with you"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 09:38 AM
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And how is that diabolical? Why would anyone in such situation describe themselves as diabolical? Most women find that disturbing and depressing. Why? They can easily avoid such situations, men who have rosters don't hide those, there is no need.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:23 AM
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But a lot of the advice goes far beyond that and actively undermines healthy long-term relationships. Thats irrelevant. RP is not movement, its not set of rules, it's not monolith. It's just amorphous blob of advice formed through years because mainstream advice is extremely useless. Like any such amorphous blob, you can find any kind of advice that may or may not cause any kind of results in LTR. Your claim would only make point if you could demonstrate us how RP advice undermines LTR compared …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:21 AM
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Men describe themselves as diabolical by saying they want polygyny Why and where? Most men can't have such relationship. Men who can have roster don't care enough to describe themselves as diabolical. They just do it. They do it, because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:31 AM
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It’s creating a bitter echo chamber though Vast majority of places in internet are echo chambers though. Actually one of the few places where 'wrong think' is more tolerated are those 'manosphere' and adjacent places. Not always, not 100%, but you can easily see level of difference compared to mainstream spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 06:21 AM
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I can give you example from my history in reddit. There was feminist who openly wrote in mainstream subreddit that "all men should be enslaved". I quoted it and explained why I don't agree and why it's impossible to do. I got banned by reddit admins for hate speech. I still don't know if it was because I quoted her or because of me being against slavery, but both are very bad reasons for ban. And no, it was not bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:52 AM
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This is not what was discussed. Before answering its smart to read or even better, try to understand what was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:55 PM
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Show me one such comment where man claims that women have no right to be single?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:43 PM
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No they do not. I'm not American, I don't really even speak/understand English well. But Your comment has no connection with my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:25 AM
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It could be minutes if subreddit is big enough.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/05/26 06:24 AM
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You have to look into comment I answered to. I'm sure you can understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:23 AM
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Depends how you define large. Its example of selection bias. You only see those men who hit on you even when they are very tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 06:22 AM
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I should have added more qualifiers, but I thought its not needed. I know men are heavily discriminated. I answered similar request here: https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1t1j65q/many_intersectional_feminists_have_a_very_shallow/ojidkh6/ There are very few if any areas where gender dimension that feminists use (so where women are discriminated) is bigger than racial/ethnic dimension in western society in 2026.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 02:48 PM
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I meant from those few areas that feminists cry about. I'm aware that there are some very bad situations for men, but feminists ignore those in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 02:29 PM
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Try to swap gender and post something like this. Measure time before admins nuke subreddit and your account.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/05/26 01:26 PM
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Considering that they can't understand that gender dimension is pathetically small compared to pretty much any other dimension and that class dimension has bigger impact than rest of the dimensions combined, you are totally correct. There is very few if any feminist who understands it. If there is, they are just too afraid to say it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 01:23 PM
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men here continuously complaining that no women means an unfulfilling life Horny teenagers. In my age-group you would meet many men who choose peaceful life over bad partner. Very common actually, especially because kids are all grown. I'm over 50
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:14 PM
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I'm 50+, such men are very rare. Vast majority of men know they can't pull age-gap relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:13 PM
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how content or comfortable a woman's life is staying single That evens out. At later stages of life men are usually much more comfortable and content being single compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 10:05 AM
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I already pre-apologized for such chance. Sadly its very common tactics used by many native speakers to shut down discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:29 AM
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Well yes its speculation. Educated guess if you wish. I think we actually agree. What makes it seem like disagreement is not facts as such, its semantics. When I said rape in context of biology I meant rape rape. Literally (and I use old definition of literally here, not that new weird one where literally literally means not literally) non-consensual intercourse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 08:25 AM
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It's disgusting how you pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. I assume you are highly educated native speaker, as most of people in this sub seem to be. If not, I apologize. Why is not being attraxted to someone is a character flaw? He did not claim that. What /u/According-Tea-3014 in my understanding claims is that dating someone you are not attracted to is character flaw. Of course English …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:16 AM
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The thing is a lot of women would rather be single than with a guy they aren’t head over heels for. And that's their right. I have not even noticed RP men claiming otherwise. It's some weird misconception that men somehow want to force women to be in relationships they don't want to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:10 AM
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You seem to make serious mistake with definitions. Observation and explanation is not same as accusation. What you claim is quite rare. This is what is told in places that women love to label as 'manosphere' and by definition it's very tiny corner of internet. You have to actively seek it out to interact with it. I know, I tried. You can make that claim when you can point out constant flood of such telling in mainstream media (or even social media, just avoid fringe areas with minuscule user bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:07 AM
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But I wonder if biology is doing most of the work for them. Yes it does. Fact is that rape is normalized by biology. Just observe how such things go with animals. Humans worked hard and created social constructs to minimize it, but its still fact that rape as such is "social construct" and civilization is what mostly prevents it. So every honest statistics will find out that men are more likely to rape than women, that's just biology. Also “Greater Male Variability Hypothesis” plays role there, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 07:53 AM
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Yes, they have expanded definition of such concepts into nothingness. First they expaned it to "rapey behaviour" and then they changed it so everything falls under umbrella of rape. Like that "research" they love to quote when they say that 95% of men are rapists. I mean this abomination https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605261432630 They use methodological trick to inflate unreported rape statistics. Researcher definitions applied over participant experience, result reported as if c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 07:46 AM
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When FGM is declared torture by UN and is punishable by jail in many countries, so should be MGM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 08:07 PM
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I think that change is visible in internet only. They widened definition so much, that now majority of women comfortably fit under that umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:21 AM
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Yes, I reached that conclusion too when I read definition you gave. My comment is based on my own life experience. It's very common that women try to gain my attention by belittling other women (men too actually, especially ex-partners). I don't even understand why they think it works. Can't comment if men do it as much/more/less as I don't date men, but amount of such women is surprisingly high.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:19 AM
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majority of children raped are by men https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2024.2319242#d1e829 Open Table 3, look under pedophilia and look for "Engaged in %", notice results. Consider that engaging in pedophilia is rape by default. Think about it. Think about statistics. Ask yourself: "could my opinion be formed because of false claim based on faulty definition?" Or not, won't change your mind anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:16 AM
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But that definition would make majority of women "pick me"-s Belittling other women is extremely common, especially behind their back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 09:06 AM
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It is not. Actually you are not wrong with your definition. It's just irrelevant. It used to be somewhat coherent concept (woman who acts and talks against mainstream narrative to gain attention from men) but then it was redefined into nothingness and now its just another buzzword that means 'I do not agree with you'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 08:29 AM
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Actually this is my misinterpretation of situation. Somehow I limited it into same group. I have never seen such situation in school one class/group setting. But I agree, I have seen such occurrence happening when boy is bullied at school while having quite a lot of success with girls outside the school at the same time. I just did not think it through before I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:57 AM
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Im ok with them doing such thing, I know they are like that, I expect them to do it. But I also expect them to at least be coherent in their arguments. For some reason its very rare. They always do same thing, just redefine and misinterpret everything till words I say get meaning that is exactly backwards. English is my third language, if I can understand what sentence means, so should they. Most of them are college educated native speakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:53 AM
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You claimed that they 'spiral toward suicide', you can't reach that conclusion based on your description.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 02:01 PM
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harmful direction their current preoccupations lead them to. You have no idea of that. You don't even know what their 'current preoccupations' is, so you can't make even semi-educated guess where it could lead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 01:55 PM
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No. And its very confusing how you are incapable of understanding even basic words I use to write. English is my third language and Im very confused how you came to such conclusion based on anything I wrote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 01:42 PM
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Why are you actively trying to misinterpret what I wrote in the worst possible way? This is their default MO. They think its some kind of gotcha trap. They pretend to not even understand meaning of most basic words and concepts. Words and concepts that in my language we learn in elementary school. And those are supposed to be highly educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:11 PM
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You were picked on but somehow popular with girls. It’s all a contradiction. Why? I'm over 50 and I have met many such men who were picked on in early life and then grew to be heart-breakers who had lot of girls drooling after them. Some even did it much later in life, like being already over 40 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:08 PM
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I'm one of such "senior man". I'm not excited about death at all, but we all die alone. This is just how it works in real life. Living alone is better than living with bad partner. But I'm one of men who is very rarely alone. It's just how my life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:03 PM
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The Red Pill, Black Pill etc are standing directly in the way of the kind of discourse that their participants need. Its not for you to decide what they need. In free society people decide what kind of discourse they subscribe to. Only way to implement your solution is to implement full scale authoritarian regime and we can see how well it works in North Korea, at least for regular people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 12:44 PM
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If you're a political activist who identifies as a liberal and you find yourself having a lot of fascist fans, the correct course of action is to weed them out. Correct answer is to define what is liberal and what makes you liberal. And then try to understand what fascism is. Vast majority of people just use it as slogan and actually mean 'I do not agree with you' when they use it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 07:45 AM
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No it does not hold any water. She just repeats silly talking points without understanding what is behind it. correlating to women's higher risk of injury and fatalities in crashes. This is misinterpreting data. Women get more hurt in car crashes because their bodies are weaker and can't take as much punishment as male bodies can. That's it. Biology and evolution.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/04/26 06:06 AM
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But then blue pill does go way beyond that The difference is minuscule, baseline is huge. It's glass of water next to ocean. Most of modern day concepts are incoherent mess because wide adoption of internet and social media have made language something that anyone who wants can come and redefine basic concepts daily. "what everybody thinks and says" Yes, I agree. Same for feminism. It's not even really organization in sense like let's say boy scouts are. So movement is better descriptor, but sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:49 AM
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They clog the airwaves and waste space. You literally describe vast majority (like 99.9999999%) of internet and about 90% of society outside of internet. Pretty much everything you encounter during your regular day is 'clogging the airwaves and wasting space'
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:35 AM
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Yes its very interesting. Feminism has thousands of splinters. Latest one I discovered was bimbo feminism, it's fascinating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:30 AM
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But god you really have to weed out the misogynists or everything turns to shit and your cause falls apart This is not how internet works. Never has. You are just wasting your effort, you could do it better if concentrated your efforts into real life. It does not work because people are extremely dishonest in internet and mostly just play with definitions. You can't weed out misogynists when it's definition changes hourly, or if you try you will stand alone in the end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:29 AM
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Yes, its impossible to get message across. Feminists are just extremely obnoxious and loud. They yell you down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 05:14 AM
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You can make same arguments about feminism and it would still be stupid to say that feminism does not exist, you can easily observe real life and see that feminism exsists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:12 AM
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Of course abusers should be blamed. Can't blame men who are not abusers. they take a woman being partnered with a manipulative psychopath as proof that lots of women want that They don't. Amount of men who think like that is extremely tiny. I have never met even one such men. It's illogical and stupid to make conclusion about 'lots of women' based on 'woman'. Men in general tend to be logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:28 PM
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if i said some men only bring dick to the table and nothing else You would be correct. Such men do exist. Granted they seem to have excellent dick or they never find partner. there would be men offended by me reducing men to just "dick". Probably. Why would you care tho? Chances of meeting even one such man are quite tiny. Vast majority of men don't care. He also did not talk about all women, what is there to be offended about, he clearly said "plenty of women", so its enough to make point, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:24 PM
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It really does not help me. How can you even make format like this. Its really hard to read. Have you ever seen tiktok or instagram? You talked about dating. This is something you do in real life. So lets discuss it in context of real life. Yes, I'm aware that tiktok and instagram is also full of weirdos even when I have never visited those. I have really hard time connecting anything you say with anything I said. You told you are not female and for some reason you write totally illogically. Cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:18 PM
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Plenty of women, is not women. This is basic English. I don't even understand your argument. You try to tell me that there are no women who only bring holes (or themself) to the table? Then say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 03:00 PM
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It's still choice. Of course I write about my personal experience. Society tries to help her, police tries to help her, government tries to help her, her mom tries to help her, her friends try to help her. She refuses all help and crawls back to him to get next beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:58 PM
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You should start with baby-steps. Try to understand how word "plenty" changes meaning of sentence. English is not that hard. I'm sure you can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:50 PM
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I defined anti-social behaviors very clearly And I answered to you. You ignored it. It's ok, you are probably flooded. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1sy6csq/far_too_many_men_cannot_see_that_they_have/oiwg6t3/ Also I'm not female Irrelevant, but flair up, or you will be misgendered. You write like female. also what your saying doesn't fit into the context of this debate what's so ever. You claim you are male. Stop using your emotions and explain with short clear sentences how …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:49 PM
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There are plenty of women who bring a hole to the table and nothing else. English is my third language and I still understand this sentence. What part of it causes confusion in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:42 PM
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Exactly, that's only possibility. Facts will get ignored as usual. He must concentrate on emotions. In the end it changes nothing, even when he wins, he loses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:26 PM
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PART 2 - as comment is just too long The story of how one researcher discovered that the study was fraudulent, and how he came into possession of the raw data that they tried to bury, can be found here: Rosenthal, M. B. (1995). Misrepresentation of Gender Bias in the 1989 Report of the Gender Bias Committee of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Breaking The Science. http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php Unsubstantiated reports that women were being underrepresented …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:24 PM
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This is not my comment. But I saved it. It was smart move too, not only was author banned from reddit, whole subreddit was eradicated by admins: PART 1 - as comment is just too long, so I had to split it Sometimes they take it gracefully and report their results in good faith. But other times they make excuses for it or try to cover it up. The following is a list of 13 examples ranging from hiring discrimination, domestic violence, educational discrimination, and child custody discrimination. A …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:23 PM
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I'm egalitarian. I'm not even MRA. I only snuck here because it's one of the few places where they do not kick me out when I say such things. I do not even believe in men's rights (or women's rights), I only believe in equal rights of opportunity for everyone. Also, English is my third language and I never received formal education about it. It's all self-learned, that's why its so bad. You have a lot to lose. Your chance for education, your future career, your grades. Feminists don't care about…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 01:19 PM
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He will lose, but only because everyone else in room is against him and all his arguments will be ignored. No matter what goal he has.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 12:04 PM
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Yes he is, and so are vast majority of feminists. You can't debate them with facts, they ignore facts. You have to lower yourself to their level and just pick apart everything they say and deny every time they try to put words into your mouth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 12:02 PM
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Can't forget definitions. Definitions are their main weapon. When they need some claim, they do not lie with numbers. They just change definition so numbers show what they want it to show. Like with rape statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 12:00 PM
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feminism is hard to debate Feminism is very easy to debate. But its impossible to win that debate as everything you say that is considered against it, is just ignored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 11:57 AM
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You can't use any facts. They won't argue about facts. Feminists never do. Not online and specifically not in real life. They argue based on emotions. If you have time watch this video: https://youtu.be/Q9xBUBX26wg?si=nrsD3DwLv2BX-yv_ He explains how women argue and you really need it. Male feminists are basically honorary women anyway. Whole video is worth watching, but I put in timestamp where relevant part for you starts (12:35).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 11:53 AM
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Don't do it. You have nothing to win and everything to lose. You ruin your life and change nothing. They just yell over you, and there is no way you can prove anything. They just dismiss everything you say with extra noise. You can only debate in respectful environment where both sides have rights. Current time educational environment is not that. Just keep your head down, get your paper, and get out. EDIT: Just one regular advice. When they tell you something like "So, you are telling that ..."…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 11:45 AM
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they take a woman being partnered with a manipulative psychopath as proof that lots of women want that You kind of mix it up wrong way. Most of us think that woman (and yes its tiny minority) want that because they keep going back to abusive exes and for some reason even when they pick new man, its still abusive scum. This is from real life. Such women often don't even listen their female friends. It's same even in western societies where such women have very strong support structures from gover…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:27 AM
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“see look, you’re an asshole here that’s why you don’t get dates” Its other way around. I'm an asshole (for them) because I do get way too many matches and dates. It's just filter. I have no energy to date them all, so I can be asshole and just tell the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:21 AM
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You are getting downvoted because you can't read and add nothing to discussion. because women, essentially, being called "holes" makes me want to barf! It's on you. It was not written there, you just wanted to read it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:19 AM
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anti-social behavior are not that common I agree it's very uncommon. Basically fringe. Actual problem is that this is not how OP defines it. For her everything she does not like is "anti-social behavior", even when such people are successful in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:11 AM
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You take something that happens in tiny sliver of internet echo-chambers you visit and extrapolate it into real life. Things just don't work this way. "nobody wanting to be around them" is relevant only in real life context. Nobody cares about this happening in internet. always feeling the need to bring somebody down Agreed, people in real life avoid such people. How is it connected to men in general? In my experience there is at least same amount of such women. Not gender issue. every time a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:04 AM
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No they don't. That's not blame. They accept it as reality and work on themselves to be one of those who are considered attractive. Contrary to your claim, they never say all men SHOULD be seen as attractive, they accept that most men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:03 PM
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Unattractive still has value. It's just lower. 90% of the people are unattractive. Yes, women too. Yes, I know my claim make most people very angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:02 AM
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The red pill agrees with this but instead of saying so They literally say that blame women for not seeing regular men as valuable They don't do that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:01 AM
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Of course not guaranteed. I guess I misunderstood your point. What I meant is that I'm entitled to exactly the partner I want. I don't have to settle. I may never get one, but I'm entitled to have relationship with person I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:24 PM
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not entitled to dating someone who aligns with your preferences. Yes I do. Every single person is. You can't force anybody to date anybody. Every single one of us has literal right to only date someone who aligns with their preferences. There is possibility that you never meet one such, but you always have such right. Also this sentence does not align with your first sentence. Or maybe I just understand you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:57 PM
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Thats pure gold. I will steal it all (including responses) and will use it every time unhinged feminist needs some mansplaining done on her.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 01:14 PM
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You are speaking about entitlement. I said that nobody is entitled to anything from others. You are entitled for your preferences, no matter how limiting those are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:37 PM
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Yes I mixed up studies, I covered it with my other comment. Still definition issue. They expand definition of rape into meaningless word salad.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 06:17 AM
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Yes I do, I have right to have preference. I have right to choose. Of course she has right to say no too. This is just how life works. More peope who fit under my preference umbrella, easier it is for me to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:16 AM
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Even worse. I remember that research too, I mixed it up because her voice was too annoying for me to suffer through her video. That study reports 90% or more men answered they'd never rape a woman. So they just massaged numbers by (surprise surprise) massaging definitions. They call it "rapey behaviour" and then expand it to mean "rape". They included things like "asked multiple time for sex" as "rape".
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/26 05:53 AM
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It is not made up in sense that rape is defined as something that literally only men can do, so only surprise here is why its not 100%.
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/26 10:52 AM
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Yes of course. In this example I meant to illustrate the difference. Even solitude people have some social connections and sex is one powerful incentive to make person to be little bit more social.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:01 AM
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If my ideal corresponds to billion women all over the world and yours corresponds to one person, then I just have much higher chance to find my ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 04:47 AM
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But my ideal is so low requirement. I have found multiple during my life. Of course I have right to have my ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:18 PM
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Passport bros are a certain type of man who thinks women outside the western world are going to be more submissive and easier to control. Are you sure you want to make it so complicated? You may have cut off like 90% of self identified passport bros with such restrictive definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:55 PM
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It just makes things more visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:31 PM
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Single usually does not even mean 'no sex' for them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:55 AM
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If you acknowledge that 99% of rapists aren't men But that's definition issue. Only question we ask when we see this % is 'why is it not 100%?' Reality shows that its much more towards parity when 'made to penetrate' is included in definition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:54 AM
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I personally think women cope better being single I don't agree at all. Men cope much better being single. I think you only consider small sliver of life. Basically teen and early 20's, then it's about equal, but soon after men would cope much better. And this is only about being single, as not in close loving partnership. If we also include social interactions like friends, difference grows huge. When we check out people who prefer extreme solitude vast majority of those are men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:47 AM
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I find Eco bit too philosophical for every-day use. I have blue collar background even when I'm not blue collar myself, so I'm more of 'down to earth' type. For me 'cult of the leader' and 'anti-individualism' are two of the core principles that define fascism. Eco treats leader worship as an emergent result, not a primary trait. For Eco anti-individualism is a background assumption underlying many traits, not a distinct mechanism. I think my approach is easier to absorb for regular person, but …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 10:14 AM
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Well its hard to tell. I mean actual patriarchy is not "action for actions sake". But going by context I guess we here discuss here bastardized feminist version of patriarchy. It's still hard, because they have so many definitions. I would agree that concept of "smash the patriarchy" absolutely is "action for actions sake"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 09:32 AM
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Fascism is another interesting topic where we can discuss those core tenets for years, especially if we start comparing their core principles to other movements. But, yes of course you are correct it is one of core tenets of fascism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 09:06 AM
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alarming statistics which show male violence against women and girls is an epidemic There is none. Actually statistics show that violence in western society (especially sexual violence) keeps trending down throughout decades. You just believe lies by amateurs who push agenda and ignore statistics. I'm not sure why some men are so mad? Newton was genius. It's unbelievable how he defined his third law and it literally works outside of physics too. Misogyny continues to hurt and kill women by the h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:38 AM
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If you define it like that, it can't exist. Logically and semantically can't exist. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women and girls. This part can exist. It's extremely tiny minority that is actively shunned and punished in western society, but at least its possible. It functions as an ideology that justifies patriarchal systems You have no idea what ideology or patriarchy means. Those additions invalidated your whole definition. aiming to control or limit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:33 AM
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True, as they are extremely tiny minority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:24 AM
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"Once we've 'Smashed the Patriarchy' then there will be time to look at men's issues" That's rich, considering they are incapable of defining what patriarchy even is. Can't smash something you can't recognize. When everything looks like patriarchy then smashing will never end. I literally can't understand how feminists can be so blind to basic logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:17 AM
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There are feminists who are transphobic and awful towards trans people - that is not real feminism IMO. Feminism is not defined by their split between TE and rest. There are literally thousands of splinter groups because whole movement is just too bloated. Feminism as umbrella term has so many core tenets that it's impossible to adopt all of those as single person. Those splintered groups tend to have some overlap amongst most of them. Like patriarchy theory (only some academic feminists are mov…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 08:11 AM
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Ok, this made it much clearer. I blame my bad English skills for misunderstanding your earlier points. Yes, I absolutely agree that feminist discourse ruins people who start as egalitarians. And again yes, working class is huge majority in absolute numbers. So yes, there are more working class egalitarians. There are very smart working class people too and they do think about such things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 07:51 AM
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I will separate the "feminists" into two categories, egalitarians and misandrists. Why? Egalitarians are not movement or organization, it's just bunch of people who support equal rights, they are not inside feminist movement as you can't be egalitarian while hating, oppressing and discriminating half the population. Meanwhile, egalitarians, usually working class people Let's be real here. Vast majority of working class people don't think about such issues. At least this is my experience. I come …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/26 07:01 AM
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Ok, as you are native speaker I just have to believe you. Does not pass eye test for me, but I never got any schooling about English. It's all from basically reading books in English.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:59 AM
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So? And I answered to it, and it was ignored. I know killing is bad. How about fact that women get convicted less than men when they actually do kill? It affects statistics. How about fact that women drive their intimate partners to death without directly killing them? I know its not as bad as killing someone, but dead is dead. They avoid punishment and statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:58 AM
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That's good story, but I doubt many (or any) of them has ever even read it. They also call my ancestors oppressors, they were enslaved till 1865. They just can't understand that slavery happened outside of US too. People who could be sold without land and whose slavery did not end after certain period and whose children were also born into slavery.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 07:39 PM
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Feminists can't even give you coherent definition what patriarchy is. Something that could not be picked apart and shown false very easily. That happens because they are unable to admit that gender dimension in their own intersectionality theory is pathetically small compared to pretty much any other dimension and that class dimension has bigger impact than rest of the dimensions combined.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 07:31 PM
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Why you can't just accept it? It's literal definition of what moving goalpost means. You shifted the standard to suit your narrative. But it's irrelevant. I already answered and accepted that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:16 PM
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Ok English is my third language. Maybe I do misunderstand. There is difference for me. Those sentences are not same. Any options is better - it means for me that no matter what kind of option, its better than no option, its one option and -s in the end of option is just grammatical mistake. Having options is better - it implies for me that you have multiple options. So Any or Having in this context would mean exactly same?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:44 PM
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What part of any of it is right wing? I think you are just not aware what being left wing means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 05:28 PM
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So now we move goalposts from physical violence in partnerhips into killing. Yes, then you are correct. Men kill more women in partnership than women kill men. Its about 61/39 for close partner killing victims. Of course it does not count deaths that result from partner violence, but who cares about that. Nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:26 PM
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They however are not the primary target for rape or physical violence in partnerships Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:33 PM
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Single and solitude are two very different things for me. Maybe I use wrong word. I basically mean type of men who are permanent bachelors. Those who never commit into serious relationship and prefer to avoid social contacts at all cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:51 PM
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No this is not what I said really. Maybe I did make it confusing, my English is bad. men crave peace and solitude more than women It means that in my experience there are many more men who thrive in solitude. It has always been. It seems to be dominated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:35 PM
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Men have said “any options is better than no options” Was original premise. This is what Im asking examples of. Man anwered to that: No, men say "having options is better than no options" then you said: The boys/men on this sub that struggle in dating parrot that phrase to women here repeatedly. How is man disagreeing with original premise example of men parroting original phrase to women? It's exactly the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:47 PM
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It implies that women have to bring something. Men are the prize. They are here. No, that can't be true. When men ask women that, they imply that both sides have to bring something. Any other way would just be stupid. When some man asks you 'what you bring to table', he already has answer to that question ready from his side. "men are wondering why toxic men getting women and simps don't" It's close, but not really. Those men doing "wondering" already have answer in their mind. It could be wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:04 PM
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comes directly after a conversation I had with another guy on this post who is pissed at women for also wanting peace. I did read all comments in this post, I did not notice that part. So I went back, reopened what I could and looked through to find out what you are speaking about. I went through everything find function could find with your name and could not find that place. Please give me np. link to it (non np. links may get removed).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:56 PM
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I don't know what you mean by belief. I myself would define it as observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:43 PM
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How did you reach conclusion that I did not like quality of OP? I actually found it intriguing, thats why I even argued with you. I was just miffed because first I tried to read to see how other people countered your arguments and noticed that most top level posts were circlejerk agreeing with your point. That's against debate rules in this sub. This is only reason why I did suggest other tag for such post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:38 PM
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That's the difference between men and women. If there is difference, than it would be that men crave peace and solitude more than women. At least for most part of life, teenage boys are hornier and have lower standards for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:34 PM
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I have no idea what you mean by standards are gradually raised That's very common in relationships. Has been same for centuries. Albert Einstein reportedly said, “Women marry men hoping they will change, and men marry women hoping they will not. So each is inevitably disappointed.” I don't know if he said that, but its very common thing old men told me when I was kid (Im over 50), so it's at least this old. Basically when woman marries she starts to change man to make him more suitable for her n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:26 PM
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Why do you even bother label your post as debate? It's kind of pointless, just use discussion so all that top level circlejerk won't break rules. Men are not only competing with other men. They are also competing with the peace a woman feels when she is single. I have never seen any man arguing that women don't have baseline requirements for relationship. That would just be weird. Usually when people discuss requirements for relationships they already assume baseline exists. What makes me think …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:14 PM
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Could you please give me example from this subreddit? I have not noticed it, but I could have maybe just missed it because of selection bias, I choose to read only threads that seem interesting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 11:48 AM
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Good for you. I'm for equal rights and that does include right to live without unnecessary pressure to find partner. Nobody should put their nose into other people love life, not even parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:26 PM
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It is selection bias. Your position is indefensible. I based my claim on real life and also internet, where I did not preselect sample by subject. Incel fantasies have no connection whatsoever to anything we (as you and me) discuss here. I have not given you one sentence that could be cause for bringing that into conversation. I know you understand English, so just stop being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:33 AM
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And no, my claim is not wrong. You based your claim on pre-selected sample amongst people who already have such problem. That's selection bias. Me (and probably him) based our claims on random samples. We could still be wrong, but our claim is stronger because it does not contain pre-selection by subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:24 AM
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I agree with his conclusion that men are not afraid. Men are not afraid of such things. Men are just finding out that 'juice is not worth the squeeze' thats not being afraid as women like to frame it. Yes you are correct that its based on everyones own sample, so it passes my eye-test, from real life. You can call it being wrong, I don't mind. I explained why your claim is wrong, you took very tiny sample of people with problem and generalized it to wider audience. That does not pass eye test (m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:15 AM
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The only time I hear about commit issues, is for already established long term couples that have kids, a mortgage and a dog together, but the ring is apparently too far for some guys This is your claim. Choosing sample amongst people who have that issue does not support your claim. It does support "only time I hear" part, but that's on you, you choose places you visit, so of course you only hear from those issues. It does not support your conclusion that "already established long term couples" h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:00 AM
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The only time I hear about commit issues, is for already established long term couples that have kids, a mortgage and a dog together, but the ring is apparently too far for some guys That claim does not pass eye-test and your evidence is too biased to use as proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:55 AM
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Specific Reddit subs mean specific types of problems. Those contain self-selected populations of people with those issues. Textbook definition of selction bias. Also those include availability bias and negativity bias. Just bad example. Also you draw conclusion that is impossible to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:45 AM
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Memes are discounted as argument. It's much better to collect deeds and facts like is done in /r/ToxicFeminismIsToxic or /r/TheTinMen I don't argue against it, it would be good thing to have. I just think its usefulness is quite limited as most people discount/ignore those as not representative. 'No true Scotsman' fallacy runs rampant in feminist circles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 06:42 AM
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And gals who choose to be single in the very long run tend to report stronger social connection and feeling happier than any other demographic You have source for that claim? It does not pass eye-test. I'm in your age-group (grandfather) and all I see around me does not agree with this claim. I speculate you have fallen into that Paul Dolan 'research' trap where he wrongly interpreted data (“Happy Ever After” book). But you can prove me wrong by showing what you base your claim on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:36 AM
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Thats literal textbook definition of selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:29 AM
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most men arent not commiting by choice. They couldnt get a relationship to commit to if they tried. That's not true. Except if you somehow redefined 'most'. For me most is 50% + at least 1. Or you just mean some specific subset of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:21 AM
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You forget about societal and family pressure. I think people my age are giving current youth much more lenience with relationships. I'm over 50 and when I was young there was relentless pressure to settle down and have family and kids. Especially because I had very good job since young age, but it was same for everyone in my age group. This pressure was created mostly by women, constant gas-lighting and lies how it would improve my life. I have 3 kids and I refuse to put them through this press…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:14 AM
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There aren't enough men who realize that not having a girlfriend can actually be less emotionally and financially catastrophic than having a girlfriend. Maybe its just your age-group and geographic area? I see such men around me, most of them have gf/wife. Thats how they know, they have comparison. And its nothing new. It was same 50 years ago when I was little kid. Old men told same things. Marriage is death of love. After you get married you will never have peace and quiet. Women invent shit j…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:45 AM
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Majority men know it well. It's tiny fraction who may say what you think, I have not seen even one, but some probably exist. It's overblown, taken out of context and turned around 180 degrees to avoid discussing what really happens. All the online discourse by "male loneliness epidemic" is mostly pushed by angry women, who are just projecting because they are incapable of being in peace alone and think that men work exactly like they do, that men need constant validation and socialization like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:38 AM
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It’s clear you didn’t see the recent cnn article They have many articles and you forgot to link me one you refer to. I did read this one: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2026/03/world/expose-rape-assault-online-vis-intl/index.html Is it the one you thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:58 PM
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online grape academy 60-80 million men visit a month Those sites are also visited by women and as women have more 'specific' tastes they are considerable chunk of those visits to that specific site. But your numbers are totally off too, you just do not understand what was even estimated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:30 PM
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Men will also be overwhelmingly the ones ... getting cosmetic surgeries Decade is way too optimistic considering its below 10% for now. Even reaching parity would be enormous change. men's fashion industry will become much larger than women's No, I don't believe in that at all. Women's fashion industry is over 2× larger than men’s globally. If there would be 0 men around, women would still keep spending on fashion industry. No shift in dating would cause such huge change. Women simply won't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:01 PM
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It's very hard to predict how AI will change our income levels in next 5-10 years, but yes you are quite probably correct. At least in developed countries. AI partners would probably cause quite huge disruption too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:44 PM
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I guess it depends how you define common and really bad. But cosmetic surgery for men is still very far away for men to be considered as common. I remember I saw some statistics somwhere, that men do less than 10% of all cosmetic procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:42 PM
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I only insult when I get insulted. Its insanity that you read out something that I never said. Do not assume, just read what I wrote. I meant what I wrote and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:18 AM
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I can give you my reason as man over 50 why I dress casual for first date. I usually go to some casual place like park or beach for a walk. Maybe coffee-house if everything goes well. Those things (including casual wear) are good filters for me. I see how woman reacts and decide if I wish to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:38 AM
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first date on a bar at night Its not clothes what is wrong, that part is where those men made wrong choice. Bar at night is bad place for first date, can't even chat well there. If you really need something to drink, just go to somewhat quiet coffee-house, even better if you could just take walk in the park and then see if you have something in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:35 AM
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It's against the rules to accuse another commenter of lying or being dishonest. Or so they say. Where is that rule? Wanna go ahead and explain how this is misandry and not the direct work of conservative religious nuts? My brain? My education? I'm not even Christian, I'm atheist, and even I know that circumcision is not religious practice amongst Christians. Council of Jerusalem decided that circumcision is NOT required for Gentile (non-Jewish) Christians. That was like 15-20 years after Christ …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:37 AM
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There is no hoax to paint men as horrible people. I literally gave you example. I would not call it hoax, I would call it misandry and lie. But that's just semantics. Fact stays, if you with straight face say that there is 100000-300000 men in US every year who buy themselves 13 year old sex slave, then you are dangerous to society and delusional and should be isolated in mental institution. Absolutely nothing to even indicate the 300,000 figure isn't correct Only because you did not read what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:30 AM
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Im not trying to convince anything. I just call out clearly wrong takes when people show that they have zero empathy towards men. Quitting is when you lose. Choosing is when you realize you don't need to play the game anymore. Men just choosing peace over constant nagging and drama does not make "male lonelyness epidemic". Men are not women, we are fundamentally different. We function well alone. After everything men has been put through by society, its just rational choice. So maybe instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:23 AM
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Lies painting such huge amount of men as child sex-slave owners is ok in your book? Can I say this about women? Would you also find it "save the children" campaign?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:02 PM
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Go to r/MensRights and tell me that every other post isn't about women and feminists, and actual mens rights issue. I'm seriously confused now. This is what you said. I said that random (first I found) post I opened there seems to be mens rights issue. Now you answer with that. English is my third language, I see no connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:19 PM
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What part of my comment does it prove wrong? Could you please be more precise? You are surprised that most men's rights issues have connection with women? I'm shocked. I had no idea that genders include women too. I just go from top down and I see nothing that would invalidate anything I said. You are surprised that first topic discusses how feminists lies caused problems to men? How is it not mens rights issue? Did you even read any of it? Moore and Kutcher began researching the issue further, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:44 PM
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Women tend to spend more than they earn. It's just math.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:37 PM
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You bring no new arguments into discussion. It's exactly the same issue that we are discussing. Just re-framed. Does not invalidate anything said in this thread.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 03:12 PM
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I really can't explain it. I just don't mind it. It has always just been part of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:05 PM
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Makeup is small. It's clothes. Especially if you live in north. Women have more winter boots than I have underwear. For some reason I think having around 10 pairs is enough. I just buy new and replace as needed. She has like 20 pairs of boots gathered throughout the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:28 PM
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Outside of circumcision I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to. Yes, and also draft. Men have no right for their body. Do you have any examples? I'm sorry you're bringing up issues I've never come into contact with. Its wide-spread and visible in schools when you went to one. It was same when I went to school. It is one of the causes why education gap is as bad as it is, and it's getting worse. If you really wish, you can learn more from here for example: https://academic.oup.com/esr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:26 PM
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Lot of those videos have quite huge female audience https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202207/who-likes-violent-porn-new-research-upends-expectations/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn/ https://www.psypost.org/new-study-sheds-light-on-womens-attraction-to-aggression-in-pornography/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 01:53 PM
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I agree in terms of things like family court and some divorce stuff. Well yes, but having no control over owns body is uniquely male issue. At least in most of developed world and as I understand even in most of US. Being discriminated in education is also male issue, but of course its impossible to put under systemic as biases are most probably cultural. Being discriminated in healthcare is easier to prove, but thats just how money is spent, not written in law, so as English is my third languag…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:35 PM
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Women spend more on stuff, because they just need more stuff. This is just my experience of course. I don't mind it, its normal part of life. Just open random closet and look. My wife always had like 80% of closet space. Maybe we are exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:23 PM
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Do you agree or disagree that this index is lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:29 AM
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theredpill subreddit I have never even seen that. I based my opinion on extensive google searches, not only from reddit. MGTOW Yes, I forgot them. I know they exist(ed?). They don't seem to be main focus now-days. Even PUA topics have died down in discussions. Mostly its all about MRA/Incel. I think that feminists have just replaced them all with label incel. That's what I meant by redfined to nothingness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:23 AM
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I never said government-mandated girlfriends. That's an incel thing That's not even incel thing. That's feminist thing who use it to vilify one group they set under umbrella of manosphere to generate guilt by association to vilify MRA's. Even when there is no overlap between those groups except that they mostly contain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:04 AM
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A lot of MRAs just attack women Thats only because for a lot of women disagreement is considered attack. As is proving you wrong. feminism is causing systemic misandry. It's not sole cause, but it has observable impact. Like when any men issue is discussed, feminists gather and yell it down. Or like how they do their best to vilify and derail any discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:02 AM
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It decreases my standard of living. I speak about me, my personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:44 AM
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I can't agree with that at all. I literally went through those spaces to understand what those words mean. I wrote it down for myself so I know wtf are people blabbering about when they mention those terms. Manosphere is just umbrella term, its like part of internet where mostly men discuss stuff. No other connection (or in some cases there is overlap) between those areas. This is what I wrote down for myself: MRA's care about things like family law, schools, or healthcare, and argue mostly for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:41 AM
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In what world Quite big chunk of the world. Mostly of course countries that are considered backwards. Like US where over 100 little boys are killed every year because someone did not like how their penis looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:35 AM
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I personally don't agree with conversations on misandry simply because the effects are so different from misogyny. I don't think they're close enough to be comparable. You are correct in here, except not in a way you think of. Misandry is normalized and systemic in western society. It exists and is easy to prove. Misogyny is barely existing, heavily shunned, and fight against it is dis-proportionally well funded. It has gone so bad that just to continue receiving money certain interest groups ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:32 AM
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If he thinks only men should have rights You know how rare it is in western society 2026? I have literally never met one such person in real life. Even online it seems to be mostly teenage edge-lords trolling old people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:20 AM
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Those things you point out are quite irrelevant noise compared to real problems men face. That male loneliness is not what you think it is. Also, men handle it extremely well, we have been doing it for long time. Just some permanently online crazy people have twisted for their use to put down men. As egalitarian man, I do not believe that anyone should be canceled (and in this context I mean his/her livelihood endangered by getting him fired from job or such actions). Not even craziest man-hatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:16 AM
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Too much philosophy for me. I just want clarity in definitions. I'm already tired feminists redefining every concept into nothingness. I don't want men doing it. Lets make somewhat clear definitions and stick to those. English is my third language, its so freaking hard to keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:14 AM
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Of course, this is how adult people are supposed to act. I'm brave enough to say that most people my age take positive approach. When there is no connection, just act like adult and communicate. Goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:11 AM
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Do you mean 'feminism' as a whole, or are we dividing it into waves as is usually done? Thats dishonest grouping. Honest grouping would be dividing feminists by their core tenets. Feminism as umbrella term has so many core tenets that it's impossible to adopt all of those as single person, so of course they have thousands of splinters. Still, they tend to have some overlap amongst most of them. Like patriarchy theory (only some academic feminists are moving away from that flawed concept) and int…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 08:16 AM
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Black pill are resigned to never having relationships and he searches for marriage. He is just confused young man who does not understand those concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:07 AM
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Lol this isn't the 90s. So back when my children were born. The vast majority of couples are dual income. Was same back in 90s, also 80s and 70s. I'm not from US The vast majority of couples deposit their money into a joint bank account and pay their bills from there. Maybe in US. I have never even heard about joint bank accounts. The vast majority of people cannot afford life on a singular income. Yes, not even in filthy rich US. In poorer countries its even more obvious. What's your point? It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:05 AM
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He is mislabeling himself then. He is not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:00 AM
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dont become feminist and start mangling every single concept Please lets keep at least some definitions intact for longer than three days. It gets annoying for non-native speakers when I have to learn new English language every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:57 AM
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Problem is redpill promotes men being man whores. No, they promote improving themselves to become man-whores. There is difference. This is not attractive to high quality conservative women. Man-whores in general do not care if women they whore around with are high quality or conservative, bump and dump won't leave much time for political discussions Most of the stuff you listed is shallow and you don't seem to really care about the quality of women you attract. He literally labeled himself as "r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:55 AM
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Because for men in here they are only looking for sex. No. Because her money is her money and I get no benefits from her money. Why would I care about something that does not affect me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:48 AM
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Social skills are not personality. Social skills can be learned and modified. Personality can be hidden for some time, but it always comes out after some time. Hating all men is personality Hiding it everywhere except when anonymous in internet is social skill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:47 AM
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Im very picky about who I form relationship with, maybe it have caused some hurt feelings. But nobody is entitled to me, I have right to have preferences. I don't consider it being evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:04 AM
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I have met female teachers who were working overtime to keep boys in middle school. There is quite good start for it. My linked study would give them help. Start grading based on merit, lose the "girl discount" from grades and boy problem will get better. arguing with school boards to get more money to set up programs specifically for boys Good luck with that. Money is zero sum and it's spent on more important things. Like equality what is measured only when girls are behind. This is why some fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:03 AM
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It's impossible to define good or evil in this conctext. I do not take any shit from anybody, I'm adult and I know what I want, I don't play games. I would not say that having clear boundaries are evil. I think think I have empathy and I do not treat anybody poorly. I don't do it in general, not just in dating world. Also I don't sleep around, so I don't have much experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:32 AM
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See, this is why we women hate men like you. They really do not hate me, during all my dating/relationship life my total months single could be counted on one hand. You are the men who abuse, rape, and feel entitled to women. I never do that. I have no need nor wish for it. You're the problem men women need to avoid. They still don't. Most women in real life love my attitude. I never deny their rights, I only say that all humans should have equal rights. Women love that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:02 PM
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I never said that there are humans devoid of emotions. You did not read that sentence well enough to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:00 PM
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Cuz OP is saying because we don't give empathy to men, we don't deserve rights I don't believe in women's rights at all. But I'm very strong believer of human's rights and I think anyone no matter what sex or gender or how they identify should have same rights. So you can't blame me for anything you thought you found in his post. Of course I checked and could not find place where he told that women should have no rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:53 PM
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These days I rarely engage with these types anymore. You are in very wrong place then. This sub is all about debating. I've found that it's not worth it as "red pilled" men are extremely unlikely to change their minds, especially by a woman. The mentality is cultish to an extreme degree, the views are detached from reality, I have found same true about feminists. Thankfully I'm not red pilled and not even part of any movement you love to label under 'manosphere' umbrella. I'm just me, and I'm al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:39 PM
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I don't get it. I already did, why you keep whining about me not taking it? I have done multiple times in this same subthread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:21 PM
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Of course my woes are my own. You have never avoided blaming most of the men for the actions of tiny fraction. Why would it bother me when you continued to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 04:32 PM
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Then should we allow fictional visual porn too? I mean VISA and Mastercard went after porn games very hard, literally made buying it illegal even in countries where its totally legal. Also Hentai has had this problem for years. Seems like nasty double-standard for me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:54 PM
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Yes true. It's well known that most of the demand for violent porn comes from women. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202207/who-likes-violent-porn-new-research-upends-expectations/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:50 PM
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Haunting Adeline — H.D. Carlton - SA and stalking Captive in the Dark — C.J. Roberts - kidnapping and Stockholm syndrome Tears of Tess — Pepper Winters - trafficking and abuse Butcher & Blackbird — Brynne Weaver - serial killers porn Still Beating — Jennifer Hartmann - trauma bonding after extreme violence
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 02:29 PM
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We have never denied it. This is how we have always lived. You just never noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:24 PM
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When you see something misogynistic, you can debate it and prove them wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:56 PM
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Yes absolutely. I love my daughters, I love my brothers daughter. I love many women in my life. Thats why I did not protest when I was drafted. That's why I will fight when war comes. I don't live in cushy US that is protected by distance and geography. There is quite high (and increasing) chance that soon I have to go to war to protect my family. I don't give rats ass about government, elites or country, but I will die for my family when needed. I care about women's suffering a lot. Thats why m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:48 PM
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There are millions of chads all around the world. Your examples are much rarer. They are like chads of chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 01:38 PM
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If you and other men are solely responsible for society snd the way it currently is Yes, we men who currently live and great men who built it before us, are responsible for richest, safest, most equal and best by any metrics society that there has ever been. Saying otherwise is just being blind and uneducated. Just check out how bad things were historically. Life today in western society is better than it has ever been for regular person. Even medieval nobility or Ancient Roman aristocrats had i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:56 PM
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Pretty privilege is a thing for both men and women. I would even argue that men have more gains from pretty privilege. Pretty men get life on easy mode. I grew up ugly and useless. When my long term relationship broke down and I got freedom at age 46, I suddenly discovered I have enormous pretty privilege that did not exist when I was in my 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:51 PM
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We do not need to put others down but we do not also have to agree with each other. This is MO for most of feminists I have met online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:47 PM
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You did not have sources that had any meaning. Link me to that subthread where you posted sources that were disregarded, I'm sure people gave you reason why your sources were disregarded, I always say why I disregard your source if I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:18 PM
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It's ok, Im not entitled to your time. I just did it for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:17 PM
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I did not go too deep. I pretty much put most common words you can imagine. Found nothing. You can easily still buy books describing much more vile acts in Amazon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 12:17 PM
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Thats just bunch of lies based on very limited experience and no analysis of raw data. You can't claim that without sources. Not even about Americans. Or about this subreddit (or any other). Everyone has right to have preferences as long as they accept consequences. Nobody has right to deny your preferences. You can't force anyone to be attracted to anyone. This is not how life works and vast majority of people would agree with me. At least people who I have interacted with. And no, I will not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:13 AM
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as i understand the side is mostly a generic porn site with more kink videos I did check it out, it has very low quality and mundane porn videos mostly. Actually lot of those were stolen from mainstream sites.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:49 AM
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than the fact that such websites exist" Interesting how they are against porn sites that mostly contain very mundane stuff, yes even that motherless is actually quite bad and low quality. I did check it out "for science" as I was not aware of it, most of my "science" is done on more mainstream sites. Same time they defend smut books in amazon that are mainstream and literally contain fully illegal porn. Like pdf - file porn is so common there. Not to say actual SA and abuse that you would have h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:32 AM
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Its just lie. Visit your local hospital and take a look (if they let you) who works there. I have been part of team writing IT systems for big hospitals, and I have actually visited and trained their employees. In my country its mostly men who do that kind of work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:28 AM
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You should also consider that 62 million views traffic does contain bot traffic and click farming. Bots generate more traffic than average person and analytics is based on estimates and does not split off bot traffic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:26 AM
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62 million was the number of men on Motherless Not men, not users, not even people, Its not measured traffic, its estimated, including bots, including men and women and non-binary or any other stuff you want. No need to help them out by giving false assumptions. One bot can generate enormous amount of traffic. Even one person can generate high level traffic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:25 AM
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62 million was the number of men on Motherless You are not entirely correct with that claim either. Why? It was not just motherless, some other sites too they looked at analytics data about traffic. Traffic are not people, everthing rises this count. One person can generate a lot of traffic. They estimate traffic indirectly using multiple data sources. It causes huge error margins. This claim is dishonest at best and probably just made to generate outrage with lie. Also such estimates include bo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 07:22 AM
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following is PART 2 of 2 - start with other comment first, do not read this before you are ready! Conclusion If after reading this you can still say any of the following exists, you are just dishones and hate men: Patriarchy exists today in western world - actually if we believe Feminists, it does not even exist in Afganistan, just because they redefined meaning of it into nothingness. Misogyny is a widespread problem and not niche issue with tiny sliver of population Misandry does not exist and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:42 AM
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I'm sorry for destroying everything you believe in. Your link shows us why feminism should be dismantled and removed. Its literal proof of lies and systemic oppression of males. Please stop reading now if you can not handle total destruction of your world-view. You have been warned, following is PART 1 of 2 as reddit can't handle truth that contains so much information What you linked is not source. It's not even study. Its pointless slop, basically repackaging of the World Economic Forum (WEF) …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 06:40 AM
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Did you see the evaluation of gender equality with the link I sent? There is still work to be done in many countries. Yes I did see. I ignored it specifically because I wanted to be polite and not point out how stupid it is to use such slop as proof for anything. Thats the part where I come out and destroy everything you say like you are 12 year old girl who just discovered tumblr. I didn't want to do that, as I have grown to respect your opinion enough to not just shatter it for lies we both kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:55 AM
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No feelings from me was involved in any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:06 PM
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I believe in specific women's rights because of pregnancy, childbirth and maternal care. Men do not require these but we do. We are equal but different. Laws need to cover this. What part of it should be codified in law? Also, those are things that feminists dont care about at all. They tend to vilify motherhood and maternal care. I saw an alcoholic male neighbour throw children's shoes at his wife and children Happens somewhere every day, even now, even in developed countries. Some people are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:06 PM
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There is no need to ask, I know you don't know. Otherwise you would not claim what you claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:54 PM
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I wasnt speaking about post. I was speaking about top level comments. Thats where circlejerk is. Supposed to be debate. Maybe rules are differently numbered in old.reddit. I see it as 9 under core rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:09 PM
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you cant even define what is manosphere or what is lie or what is emotion, yet you have such strong opinions about things you know nothing about
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:08 PM
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I think your definition of 'normal' is Western European countries. Not really. There are more. Depends how you define Western European. There are actually plenty of normal countries in Eastern Europe too. Also highly developed countries in Asia. There are far more countries with bans or controls on abortion outside of Western Europe. Thats complicated. Allowed/banned is binary but there are countries where abortion is conditionally allowed. I agree in principle that outside of Europe abortion is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:04 PM
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9) Top Level Comments in Debate/Q4X threads must be appropriate Its flagged as Debate, you are supposed to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:32 PM
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Emotions have no place when evaluating facts. Of course we all have feelings and emotions. I thought our discussion was about lies/truths in manosphere. I have no feelings towards that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:22 PM
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I don't care how something feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:19 PM
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But that rant was not about banning your use of EQ as concept. It was more like lecture to educate you about how flawed EQ is. Actually, do what you want, but I would appreciate if you did not compare it to IQ. Those are not comparable at all. IQ is very tiny sliver, EQ tries to encompass enormous and not agreed scope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:11 PM
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This is not how I function.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:07 PM
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It does break rule 9 a lot. I tried to look for debate, but there are mostly agreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 01:05 PM
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You have very wrong perception what manosphere even is. No, its not emotional, its mostly extremely logical and based on facts. I know I checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:38 PM
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Women are allowed to fight in combat roles in some countries. There is difference between forced and allowed. One is like having child because you want to, another is like having child because you are forced to. Also, if you go to countries where a war is actively being fought, we may not be combatants but there is no doubt we can die. Of course, I never argued with that. War is shitty thing and people die there. If you go to places where there are abortion bans, there will be women forced to ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:37 PM
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Why do you think that using word EQ is somewhat not allowed? You can use it. I dont mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:24 PM
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Your claim can't be true because that so called "manosphere" may contain some "not true" info, but thats same for every single place in internet. All places contain "not true" info and "true" info. Even this thread here. Percentage of truth in manosphere is probably higher than percentage of truth in womansphere. Emotions don't play well with facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 12:05 PM
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Your claim can't be true. That's just logic. There are many things in manosphere that are true provable facts. I did check it out, I found true claims there. Actually its womensphere where most lies live and facts die.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:30 AM
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And why is it bad? What would it change for society at large?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:00 AM
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You seem to have been done your research. Please give me example of TRP space where a person is mostly exposed to opinions that reinforce what they already believe, while opposing views are filtered out or discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:57 AM
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You seem to be confusing opinions and facts with hate. Hate is quite rare, yes even in those spaces you love to call manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:55 AM
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how come there is a manosphere and not a womansphere? Its just stupid semantics from them. They try to generate guilt by association, pushing together groups where only shared thing is that most people in these online spots are men. They just use it as derogatory term to put down men, it has lost all the meaning sadly. Basically we don't even need word womansphere, as whole internet is womansphere and couple of exceptions won't change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:47 AM
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they will interpret their experiences through a manosphere lens It can't exist. What you call manosphere contains too many different ideas to have any kind of lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:42 AM
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So if you go online in male dominated spaces how common is it to see anti female content? Never. It's probably just because you define "anti female content" as "something I don't agree with" Male dominated spaces mostly concentrate on issues at hand (like some hobby for what it was created for), so content about women does not really exist. There are some women usually involved, but I dont think of them as "content". Or are you speaking about some very niche, very specific "male dominated space"…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:38 AM
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And same time when we point out very violent books that present women as sex objects and Im generous here, some smut sold in Amazon is unhinged, any kind of illegal stuff you want, its there. "but its art", why movies and games are not art but smut books are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:35 AM
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I expect many serfs in feudal times lives were very similar to slavery. Ahh, that one again. Not serfs, slaves. You know difference between serf and slave? Want original source that proves they were slaves? You can call it indentured servitude if you want. Nop, not that one either, slaves. If you go by definition of slave. Except of course if someone decided to change that definition to exclude white people specifically like they did with Indigenous. You tell me one men's issue that would be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:00 AM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:43 AM
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Abortion prevention rights for men should be in place as soon as they can take the fetus and carry it. I can make similar postulate about any women issue you say that needs solving. Would be as dishonest. Does anyone have the right to tell someone else to carry a fetus? That's not what I argue about. I come from country where abortion has been legal for long time. Long before my birth and I'm over 50. I argue about men having similar rights. Also, it baffles me how US can keep something so impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:38 PM
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Women need individual rights because some of their issues, men will never have. Then there should be similar symmetrical right for men, as they also have issues that women never have. For example if woman has right to abort physically and we can't give such right to man as he can't get pregnant, we can give him right to paper abort. That's equality. Laws that gave us the right to vote were specifically for women Too US-centric. Let's expand it to developed world instead. I know US is barely deve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:18 PM
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Yes I understand that. I just can't ignore when I see something that is clearly not true. Sorry about that, if you do not wish to speak about EQ, I also leave every person right to have their own opinion, even when I disagree with it. If you want to discuss women's rights Ok, let me start then. I do not believe in women's rights at all. For me, those do not exist. Same goes for men's rights. I believe that all humans have rights, and those should be symmetrical. I'm egalitarian and I do not beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:53 AM
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You are in debate subreddit. Best debates happen deep under posts and I tend to put more effort then. Because witch-burning-mob have lost interest and left. Some of the best discussions in here has happened to me like that. I even met real life feminist who I had something common with and there were points where we agreed. I thought it impossible before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:38 AM
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It has not changed at all. Less than month ago I was down voted and spammed to death with extremely unhinged and silly takes when I said that I would not date trans woman and I can always tell when it's trans woman. Also when I mention that I only date slim women, I get same treatment online. In real life it has always been different, before 2012 and now too, nobody tells to my face that I'm not supposed to have preferences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 06:10 AM
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Or even just 0, I agree with that. It already has impact, and that impact will grow worse soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:56 PM
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Every comment I feel I need to add more disclaimers than comment itsself. Because otherwise people will tear it apart and make it mean total opposite to what I actually wrote. This subreddit is full of pedantic people, I guess I'm one of them then. That person was me. It really started as joke. I should not have done it, but Im tired of hearing how perceptive women are in general and simultanously they are totally unable to understand if man is violent and dangerous. Then you triggered me with w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:02 PM
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Here we have 100% agreement, all your examples are valid and true. People who are easy to replace should worry, and should think forward about their jobs. Nobody else will help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:48 PM
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All I hear all the time is that ai will take most jobs. I work in AI right now. It's possible, but much further away than those people think. Also, it will probably just do shift, take away jobs and generate other jobs. There are very few jobs that current LLMs can actually do, usually ones where there is not much responsibility, no accountability and its ok if ca 20% of results are utter garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:10 PM
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You should add this one too, so its understandable: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/emotional-intelligence Those definitions does not argue against my claim as those are impossible to measure. I am rejecting the claim that there exists a single coherent variable called emotional intelligence that meaningfully summarizes emotional understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:03 PM
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Tess does not suggest a woman to you? No it does not. Actually I did not even check your name really before you mentioned. I'm not American, English is my third language. So please use simpler words and don't use words where you also don't know meaning of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 02:41 PM
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I used the term EQ to suggest the ability to be emotionally aware and to have the ability to navigate human relationships well. See, that's why it cant exist. If you can't define and measure it, it can't exist in such context. There are many competing definitions and research is impossible to replicate. It is interesting to me that you did not reply to the male commenter above me this way. Your gender is not identified anywhere on my screen. I do not answer to person, I answer to arguments. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:38 PM
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That's really weird. I have seen with my own eyes how bouncer threw out drunk customer who grabbed waitresses ass and rightfully so, that has always been (and I think it still is in most places) default action plan in such situation. There is no such action plan when cougar grabs male bartenders dick, its just laughed off. Back then, we did not even see it as problem, by definition provided here, it is "rapey". I think bouncers should start throwing out such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:35 PM
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No, this is not what I said. I'm literally very happy to find opponent who does not shy away when asked for definition. It's because term misogyny has so many definitions, some of those so weird, that its hard to understand how it could even apply to anything. Your definition also has problems for me, but at least it exists. Do you have definition for misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 01:33 PM
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I have experience as IT, I built their systems and gave go-live support in person. For tens of places, in tens of countries, over years. Hardest nights of their business etc. Stories their workers tell are insane. Also, I of course have personal experiences with my own friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:58 PM
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EQ does not exist. Emotional intelligence is very problematic concept, so problematic that there is even no good definition for it, there are serious issues with measuring it and its impossible to replicate research to get consistent results.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:56 PM
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That’s the actual definition. Ok, good that you gave your definition, its bit long and adds way too many qualifiers, but at least it exists now. I appreciate that. Is misandry definition same or do you have in "do not exist" category? Only wanting to call out women shows hatred, prejudice, and contempt. No it does not, only calling out women would show that they stay on topic. But its also wrong. They do call out men (yes they, I never had reason to be part of any of those submovements you gathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 12:52 PM
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It depends and is different from culture to culture. Your personal experience is not more valid than someone elses personal experience. I did not say that straight women are just as bad, I said they are worse (especially cougars), as there are no consequences for them, they are protected. It was same in 1990's. Just work some time in some party venue, night club, bar or any such. We just did not consider it as "rapey thing" And gay and lesbians were much much much worse than any straight people,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:41 AM
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No, its other way around. Heteronormative people are least manipulative in such situations. Gay man are actually worst, but lesbians are not that far away. Of course all of this is based on my extensive life experience. It's probably different in different cultures, but not much, except in cultures where just being gay would get you executed so you have to hide it 24/7 and can not manipulate openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:08 AM
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Some women are good at math; Yes some woman have EQ No. Sorry, it was sarcasm, I'm well aware that EQ does not exist, it's just cope by low-IQ people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:06 AM
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No, we should not waste resources on problem without even knowing if problem exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 10:05 AM
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In your brain? Because you speak no English and can't understand what basic sentences mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 10:04 AM
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Its not normalised for men. Other way, its very normalised for women, has always been, I remember things you describe as rapey behavior from 40 years ago, by women, daily. It still happens. I can't say all women, but significant percentage. Over 90% for sure as you have included "psychologically or emotionally manipulating them", thats default MO for most women. I say 90% only because I can't say all, but I have never met woman who does not constantly manipulate someone to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:31 PM
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Thats nice, but then there is enormous amount of women who very casually do rapey behaviour and everybody just ignores it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:07 PM
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Thats bit dishonest. Women are famous for their mystical EQ ability and mindreading. I can't say that I'm always correct, but I can recognize violent men mostly. This is how you stay alive in bad neighbourhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:05 PM
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Only when men do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:50 PM
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They are not misogynists. They can't be, because misogyny as defined by you can't exist. Your definition is just too muddled to mean anything. Some of them can be misogynists if it's defined as 'hatred of women', but those people usually move more into black pill. Even there, for most of them it's resignation and not hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:41 PM
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Because there was a study quoted the other day that showed 95% of men agree they have engaged in rapey behaviours such as repeatedly asking until a no changes to a yes, or getting a girl drunk to try and have sex with her. No, that's not what was studied. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605261432630 Here is the study. What part of it you based your claim on? Also define "rapey behaviours" before you use such loaded term and muddle down actual sexual assaults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:36 PM
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They don't have to. There is nothing you can do about it and they can keep discussing what they want. Just like you can't force car-model collectors to denounce drunk drivers. It's irrelevant for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:27 PM
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Nobody is surprised that vast majority of violent crimes are committed by men. It does not take anything away from OP source. It's still minority of men who commit those acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:25 PM
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Why should they? Its not for what they exist. Its almost as silly as if you would be mad at car-model collectors for not calling out drunk drivers. It's just irrelevant to their cause. Not every grouping has to take stance about every issue. Especially if those groups have very specific reasons to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:15 PM
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And you say that such men are not called out?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:07 PM
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Is that truly your stance on all topic or only when its about things you dislike? This is my stance with everything. You must prioritize, or nothing gets done. Your own example of climate change is one of such issues that badly needs resources. There is not enough resources to concentrate on imaginary problems where tools for solutions already exist. Yet you mostly focus on feminism. Strange. I did not focus on feminism. I focused on topic of femicide. This is how discussions work. You are suppo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 02:19 PM
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You do realize you made it seem like they’re tired of terrible men being called out. What does terrible in this context even mean? If you speak about convicted violent criminals, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:49 PM
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For example? because if this is that common, you should be giving me a plethora of examples. You are example, right in this comment (and post) you made and where I answered. You called it out. You can find more. Women are more likely to take plea deals. Source? Most criminal cases (90%+) end in plea deals for both sexes. Evidence on gender difference is weak. Women are actually less likely to be charged at all. I could not find data to prove (or disprove) that taking plea deals is reason. As you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:46 PM
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fact men were more likely to commit crime regardless of background in comparison to their female counterpart. That's almost true. Except bit dishonest and irrelevant to topic at hand. Whole mainstream society constantly call out men about every fault men have, including crime statistics. Just like you just did. You of course act like you always do and just ignore everything I say, or answer with some irrelevant question. https://academic.oup.com/aler/article-abstract/17/1/127/212179 https://repo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:16 PM
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There is no need for them to do that when mainstream society as whole already does it every moment of every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 01:05 PM
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I am wondering what exactly you are trying to do. Find out source of data for sex-based murder of women. Could not find it. Probably because I'm just failing. Maybe someone else can find. One of the problems is, that no data is gathered. It is proof that we are not aware of it. This alone is concerning. Exactly what I said. Governments do not gather data about issue, but already implement solutions. They don't even know if problem exists, what is the root cause or how to solve it. But they alrea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 10:41 AM
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it just isn’t widespread If you removed this claim, I would agree with you 100%. It is widespread, as apps are widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:50 AM
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Most men are benevolent and love women. It's biologically hard-wired. That's reason why they give away power, out of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:46 AM
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Disclaimer to mods: I have no idea if it should be as top comment or under automod as I agree with some points and disagree with some points. I try to keep it concentrated on 'disagree' parts. Comment starts here: I think you have bit limited knowledge about past and you concentrate on either very limited geographical area, or limited socioeconomic class sample, or limited cultural sample, or some time that is very far in past, or some combination of those. Such claims do not translate well into…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:37 AM
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Its still problematic. I tried to work through data sets and there is literally nothing I could find about absolute numbers of gender related homicides. Everything I found is just adjacent. It seems that almost no country even gathers data in such way to make any normal conclusions. Interestingly most was available from EU. But even then its all about domestic homicides not about gender based homicide. It's really hard to draw any conclusions based on available data. https://ec.europa.eu/eurosta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 08:08 AM
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Because its discrimination based on sex? Clear example of systemic oppression of men? Clear example that patriarchy not only doesn't exist, but can't exist? Those laws literally destroy most feminist talking points they use to suppress and oppress men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:25 AM
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Femicide laws have actually done a lot of good to curb violence against women as it was deeply ingrained in our culture to the point that it was not only normalized but, in some cases, expected (some women used to believe, if he doesn't hit her then he must be cheating). I'm sorry but I don't believe you. It sounds insane. I come from country that has millenia old equality tradition between sexes. Women and men never had such stark inequality as was produced by patriarchical religious opression …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:18 AM
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Sex-based violence against women should be punished more severely than non-sex-based violence. Is there any information gathered, anywhere in the world, how prelevant sex-based murder of women even is. Actually just coherent definition of femicide would be good start. You already confused me by bringing up violence. I thought femicide comes from word homicide (Homicide is defined as the intentional killing of a person). So I thought femicide is subset of that but done on female (femi-). Violence…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:08 AM
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Its just example of systemic misandry. Use it as example and ask from feminists for example of systemic misogyny. They have zero examples for you, as there is no law or regulation that discriminates women in western world. This is especially good example to show them that even what they call "patriarchical" societies discriminate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 06:03 AM
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Women don’t believe in the male loneliness epidemic. People like you keep complaining that women are not monolith. Yet you come with such absolute terms? Women are main pushers of concept of male loneliness epidemic. This is to distract from fact that its not epidemic, and that men function well without women. Same time internet is full of women complaining about not getting any relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:58 AM
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You are correct, but... Yes it does not exist as defined by those women. Yes, it even can't exist. Yes, women still try to enforce something that can't exist and then cry when they do not succeed.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/04/26 09:02 AM
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Do they even know what misogyny is They literally do not know. There are so many definitions now that they themself lost track.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/04/26 08:58 AM
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Thats probably because you and OP define toxic differently. It's ok too, different people find different traits they consider toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:02 AM
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There’s this narrative that girls ONLY like assholes but it’s just not true. There is no such narrative. Notice that capitalized 'ONLY' part, that disqualifies your claim. And I don't say that it 'never' happens, as that would be stupid too. I just say that if it exists, its extremely rare and vast majority of men would never make such absolute claim when it's very easy to debunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:46 AM
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though men here balk at that suggestion Most of them don't. We know women struggle attracting man they want to be in relationship with. That's why whole premise of 'female loneliness epidemic' exists and why women push that imaginary 'male loneliness epidemic' lie so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:41 AM
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Nice goal post move as I never said accumulation didnt play any role in any number we are looking at. Then you made dishonest argument. I quote what you said: Men past a certain age are significantly more likely to cheat than younger men Ok, lets agree that it's my interpretation and I was wrong. But how do you qualify word significantly then? but they are easily google-able. Good, link one for me then please. I failed. And I specifically want source that shows data what you claimed. A spike tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 06:48 PM
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So did you. You claimed but provided no proof. Such information is quite hard to find. Age breakdowns for short-term cheating are not commonly published. What we can see is that annual cheating rates are low compared to lifetime rates. This alone proves accumulation plays a role. Its just basic math and deduction. This makes your claim that 'Men past a certain age are significantly more likely to cheat than younger men.' quite suspect. Do you have source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:29 PM
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Most comments under this post are just bunch of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:02 AM
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Most people initiate divorce on shitty partners Thats emotion, impossible to prove or disprove. What do you base that statement on?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:59 AM
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It's not 'broader spectrum', its actually just 'less quantity of deal-breakers' and even those can be thrown out. I have just 3 hard requirements for relationship to women. Women my age usually have more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:54 AM
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Those are different kind of relationships. Vast majority of men do not have enough income/money/status to afford sugar-baby or trophy-wife. I do not count paying to sex-workers as relationship in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:53 AM
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Men's likelihood of cheating has a much sharper incline as they age comparatively As I wrote to you before. You have to consider cumulative cheating vs short term cheating. Correct thing to say would be: "Men’s reported lifetime infidelity increases more with age than women’s, leading to a larger gender gap in older groups, though short-term cheating rates are less different." This effect is driven more by accumulation and life patterns than a simple age-based increase in behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:51 AM
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Men past a certain age are significantly more likely to cheat than younger men. You misinterpret that data. You do not consider time dimension. Young men cheat at similar short-term rates. Older men report higher lifetime (cumulative) infidelity rates. The increase with age is not because older men suddenly become more prone to cheat, but because older men have had more years (more opportunities) to cheat. many older women who have been left my their partner for a younger woman. This statement i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 07:47 AM
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You are incredibly condescending, do you know that? So are you. Do you know that? And yes, I was aware of amount of passive/agressive in my answer. It was not much, and it was quite warranted considering level of knowledge shown by person posting that comment. You criticise people for being ignorant while bringing no insight to the conversation. Ok, let me continue to be condescending, because thats only thing that seems to be capable of getting through to you. So I ask question. Did you even re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/26 06:35 AM
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When I lose patience I just take break.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 07:20 PM
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No big deal, can happen to anyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 07:20 PM
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No they don't. Most people here argue with bad faith arguments, just to manipulate, mislead and win. Even when they have nothing to back themselves up. For me its just entertainment, I will not self-censor myself. When mods shut me up, I guess its time to go. I do try to follow rules. I guess I have not broke anything too much yet. Mostly its just dishonest gaslighting to derail discussion. Usually they don't even read what you write. They ask for source, when you send one, they ignore it, derai…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 05:44 PM
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"Men spend time defending adult people right to be adult." literally means what is written So you think that an 18yr old who is either still in highschool or just finished has the same maturity as a 35yr old? How did you reach such conclusion? I wrote nothing about maturity or even dating. I explained what I have seen in reddit threads, a lot of it even here. Every age-gap topic has basically same comments. Say something new instead. What is your proposed solution then? Why is it so important to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:30 PM
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Why you say something as stupid as that? Please point exactly to part of my answer that made you think like that. I will fix that part. English is my third language and maybe I made mistake somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:21 PM
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I've thought age gap relationships were gross ever sice I was 17. You have your right to think what you want about age gap relationships. And those men who are able to have age gap relationships also have right to do what they want as long as they don't break law. Except in US of course, where they can do whatever they want, even if it breaks law.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:15 PM
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Youre focusing on outliers. Its you who is focusing on outliers, your whole post is literally about outliers. And now you are surprised that answers to you are also about outliers? That's rich. You try to create problem out of something that barely exists and gets disproportionate attention in internet. Its just ragebait and distraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:12 PM
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Men spend so much time defending weird age gap relationships No they don't. Men spend time defending adult people right to be adult. Concept so hard to grasp for some people. do you see many 18yr olds dating guys in their mid to late 30's? Exactly, this is reason why men have been telling you for years that why you cry so much about it. Yes, we know Leonardo keeps getting young girls, well there aren't many men like him. Why has it been made existential societal problem? Its so rare, still makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:07 PM
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it describes a very specific kind of people of the modern far right / us fascists No it does not. Its nothing about US, nothing about right or left (most of you have no idea what right/left means anyway), and it does not have anything to do with fascists (again, most of you can't define fascism anyway). It is another term that just has changed to mean 'I do not agree with you' like many other terms. that use extremly hostile and shortened 'discourse' / scapegoating to feed men antisocial behavio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 06:40 AM
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It exists as word and concept. But in real life its just too wide net to make any sense. Its very rare for men to identify as part of manosphere. Because women just redefined it to mean 'I dont agree with you', like many other words. It just seems that they need thousands of different words that have exactly the same meaning. Women often describe it like a group where everyone thinks the same, but the only shared thing is that most people in these online spots are men. Its visible whenever they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 06:22 AM
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So do you. You ignore even what I write, thats good indication that you also ignore sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:29 AM
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People with DT traits are by definition manipulative. They are very bad at it. Because they are lazy, they don't need to hide it as they get rewarded for showing it. Do you have an example? I gave you example. Go out for date, go to restaurant/bar/coffee shop and look how he/she interacts with workers there. It comes out really fast. Also, just listen when they speak about things. What he/she finds funny is also good indication, if disrespecting other people makes them happy and is amusing, it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:27 AM
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Thats just empty word salad. I asked for examples. You must provide those in form of peer-reviewed studies that have working methodology and show that they understand basic scientific method 101 by not changing definitions and cherry-picking data.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:22 AM
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Your question was dishonest gaslighting to derail discussion, not worth my energy. Not only you didnt answer my questions, you didnt even read what I wrote. Typical tactics. You always act same, ask for source, when you get one you ignore it, derail discussion or stop responding. I have seen it so many times. You only answer questions with question, you rarely provide any sources to support your argument. When you do provide source, its clear that you never even opened it, as quite often it does…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:30 AM
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Its not up to you to decide what is minor and what is not. Go check out study I linked and find out how they classified severity of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:21 AM
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I have not received any examples. Give me link.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:21 AM
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Yes, me too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:07 AM
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Not people, you. People usually look for numbers and think about those.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:01 AM
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Not really. Also I agreed with you as numbers show you are right about inflicting injury. Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:52 AM
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Its not equal. Didnt you read what I wrote? In what world is 70/30 distribution anything even close to equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:42 AM
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So no examples then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:39 AM
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Yes, add more qualifiers to hide fact that when only one partner beats other then its 70% women who do it. Nobody is surprised that when men hit, consequences are dire. Men are just so much stronger in average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:39 AM
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Women learning to be cautious is not the same as blaming you. I never said that. Im quite sure there is ovelap, but saying something so definitive is just outright stupid. So many men here say women should learn responsibility for choosing bad men Yes they should. Your choices have consequences. You should take responsibility for your actions. So do I, and everyone else. Once is accident, twice is coincidence, thrice is pattern - that's on you now, especially if you keep going back to those toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:37 AM
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Online backlash is toothless, just ignore it. Everyone has right to have preferences, most men know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:31 AM
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So do men. Still we find that in nonreciprocally violent relationships women commit 70% of assaults. I guess its for preemptive self defense then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:31 AM
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Isn’t that the double standard that men try to keep women in? Even if it is double standard (and Im not arguing that it's not) there is nothing men can do to keep women in it. Women are independent entities and make their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:25 AM
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I see. Interesting take. So you are assuming that women can only abuse men in self-defense or retaliation? Any source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:22 AM
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So no examples then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:21 AM
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No one is responsible for another persons actions. Thats very good and refreshing take. I agree 100%. Especially when I get blamed for actions of 0.0001% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:20 AM
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Better to tell men to behave themselves Men who would listen, already behave well. Men who would need to behave just ignore such noise anyway. It does not affect their lives or success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 10:16 AM
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I don't know what method he uses, but I can tell very fast. I may meet him first time and I don't even need to communicate to see first red flags. Yes, it does not work 100% just like that, some people are better than others at hiding it. But, bad people talk themself in, very fast. Just observe how they act and speak. Just take a look how they handle interactions with people they consider below them. Works with both, men and women. Bad people are bad at hiding it. It's visible and they tell you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:53 AM
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About half of abusive relationships are reciprocally violent. So yes, considerable chunk of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:43 AM
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I wrote this very sleepy ok It's ok, I just gave suggestion, I can't make you do it. I just told you that it was hard to read. english ain't my first language (obviously) That has not been hindrance for me, I learned a lot. English is my third language, so I can't judge others by it anyway. I answered the question about what laws currently opress us WHILE agreeing that this law is sus Well, I asked that other person about laws that she claimed discrimante women worse than this proposed law in Br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 07:51 AM
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You never engage. You just ask for 'sources' to shut down discussion. I already gave you what to search for. You know as well as I do how many laws there are that discriminate men. You always act same, ask for source, when you get one you ignore it, derail discussion or stop responding. I have seen it so many times. You only answer questions with question, you rarely provide any sources to support your argument. When you do provide source, its clear that you never even opened it, as quite often …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:41 AM
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i already gave you example. Twice. You just refuse to read what I write.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:28 AM
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Have you ever opened any sources posted in PPD? Even one? Why you want me to educate you? Could you at least give me example of one law in western world in 2026 that discriminates women? Something with link? I will then do the work and gather some examples with links for you too. You know, you educate me, I educate you, both get smarter, both benefit. Or are you too close minded and afraid of change?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:05 PM
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men aren’t the only ones who benefit men just benefit MORE than women in marriage. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1sfzgse/sex_drive_is_a_valid_dealbreaker/of1w102/ Is this one of those benefits men get MORE than women in marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:03 PM
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Like law that bans German men from leaving country without registering when women can do it? I did give you example. There are many more. You can find those, I believe in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:56 PM
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Could you stop putting words into my mouth? Go back and read what I wrote. Especially concentrate on this part: 'as concept defined in AskFeminists wiki' Take a deep breath and think what it means. Then you maybe understand what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:56 PM
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women started to walk away from dating / marriage a few years ago Walk faster and stop posting sob videos about 'why is nobody wanting to marry me, why i always only get bumped and dumped'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:50 PM
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When I ask such question from feminists, they answer: 'Im not here to educate you, do your own research' and throw about 200 books my way to do the research. Those books are garbage, I know, I actually read books. How many you want to see? Like law that bans German men from leaving country without registering when women can do it? Clear discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:46 PM
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It won't change anything. But ok. There are laws in western world, in 2026 that discriminate men. I'm not aware of any laws that discriminates women. Again, normal countries, 2026.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:44 PM
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Not only I deny that that patriarchy as concept defined in AskFeminists wiki does not exist, I also tell that such things can't exist. Its semantical impossibility and has never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:38 PM
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Change class to any other relevant word then. It's just good indicator that you have bought into narratives that global elites push to distract people from real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:19 PM
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Yes, this is what was written. I'm sure you can read and understand. Its very short.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:18 PM
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Well there are so many definitions. Sometimes it seems to me that almost every feminist has their own and when I tell them some definition I found from some other feminist, they for some reason tend to disagree. Like for example, go to AskFeminists/wiki/ and look how they define it: The Patriarchy is "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it. Do you subscribe to that definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:17 PM
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Wasn't I clear enough? I'm sorry English is my third language, so I'm not always as clear as I would love to. I'm telling that patriarchy as most commonly defined by feminists can't exist. It's impossible. I'm not sure what definition of patriarchy you subscribe to, as there are so many. So, I can not answer your question if I deny existence of your interpretation of patriarchy as concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:43 PM
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I would think dating as you get older is harder mainly because people have more adult obligations and non-social routines, so it’s harder to actually find single people. Mostly correct, I mean if you concentrate to young people (yes for me 30 is young). Interestingly enough dating 50+ is much easier. Of course its personal experience, not based on any study or statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:28 AM
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You should really check out what word class means. It already has working and functional definition and there is zero need to reframe it to something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:22 AM
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Divorce and custody laws are now gender neutral. There are laws that discriminate men, there are no laws that discriminate women. Today, 2026 in western society. Not 50 years ago, not middle east. That's already big enough issue. The only legitimate issue I see left is the draft. It's not always about how law is worded, it's more about how law is implemented, how money is spent and how society has skewed results to harm men. No bodily autonomy protection 93% of fatal occupational injuries are me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 10:04 AM
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This has never happened to men. There has never been a time or place where being “female” made you more privileged than being “male” 2026, whole western world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:49 AM
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Pretending patriarchies were never a thing is not going to convince women to side with you. Lot of women know that patriarchy as defined by feminists can not exist. Even some feminists know that, at least academic feminists. Lately they have been doing their best to move away from such undefendable concept. Of course pop-corn feminists do not listen to them, and they are vast majority so they set mainstream discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:47 AM
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They are in this to make money. This whole concept is unregulated garbage pile. It won't change before those companies are forced by government. They would never implement something that hits their bottom line.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 09:07 AM
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Please do not post such walls of text. Just leave empty row between paragraphs, its really hard to read your comment. not letting us walk shirtless (boobs are not genitals and should be normalized; it's also hot here so that sucks) That's not 'oppressing women to much worse degrees' - do you go to jail for 5 years? not letting us abort LITERAL EMBRYOS Do they put you to jail for 5 years? How many women are in jail today for aborting literal embryos? I'm not aware of any country where men have ri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 08:37 AM
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When you source something wrong, its not pedantic to call you out for using such source. Just don't make claims about things you know nothing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 08:12 AM
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In the United States, which is supposed to be seen as one of the most egalitarian and free countries By yourself. I'm European, you can call me whatever you want but I have never seen you as free country. Chaotic and backwards, yes. Free, nop. Too much corporate and religious influence to be called free country. Your freedom of speech is joke, your work-laws suck, your customer protection sucks. marital rape, didn’t become illegal in all 50 states until the 90s. We are speaking about 2026, stop …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 08:09 AM
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Men actually get fatter than women do after getting married. That study does not support your claim. Thats all we need. So don't use it as source.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:52 PM
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Yes you did, and I refuse to let you do it. There is no need to reach any other conclusion. You can claim what you want, just don't use study as proof when it does not support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:35 PM
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Gone is the time of fighting in trenches They do fight in trenches, right now. soldiers don't need to carry 200 lbs bags Still happens, not 200lbs, but neither did they carry such heavy bags back then. manipulate 2-handed swords is surprisingly light actually. Modern day gear is heavier. Rifle is heavier than 2-handed sword, I assume sword is more taxing to handle as you swing it around. Women can do frontline fighting in this modern world. They can and should do, but thats irrelevant. Relevant …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 10:33 PM
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Given that the laws have been (and in many countries) still are oppressing women to much worse degrees Please give us some examples of those laws in many countries? Islamic countries do not count. Would prefer examples from Brazil if possible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 10:26 PM
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What’s the problem with the study coming from Poland? Nothing. Just sets some geographical limits. Why you avoided my main point? That this study does not support your claim? This study shows correlation between marital status and weight, it did not even measure same people. It just compared married men to unmarried men and married women to unmarried women. Based on that study you can't claim that: 'Men actually get fatter than women do after getting married.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 10:11 PM
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Men actually get fatter than women do after getting married. Apparently it’s a 62% higher risk of becoming overweight for men, vs a 39% risk for women. That's one study (of 2400 people aged ca 50) in Poland. Also you can't claim that men actually get fatter than women do after getting married as this is not what was studied. Married people were compared and measured against not married people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:49 PM
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I hate the lies that doctors spread in the US, saying that "it's better for hygiene" I just ask them: "How many children are you ready to kill, so you could avoid teaching your children to shower". That did even shut up self proclaimed "dick phd".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:17 PM
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I'm not aware of the numbers from doctors. In US, its over 100 every year. Just because they want to. I live in a country where circumcision isn't common for religious purposes So do I, I'm from Europe he won't cut shit Tell him not to, or at least delay for as long as possible. Its also better for you. I'm over 50. I had to have it done (medical reasons) when I was 40 and father of 3. So you can believe me when I tell that difference for me was enormous. Sex enjoyment is much more muted. Also, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:04 PM
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Think how many little boys die every year because of that barbaric practice. Even at the hands of doctors.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:34 PM
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I think my bad English skill caused my message to not come through. I'm literally speaking about both, not one or another. Over 100 little boys are killed every year in US because of failed male genital mutilation. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths Baby boys can and do succumb as a result of having their foreskin removed. Circumcision-related mortality rates are not known with certainty; this study estimates the scal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:29 PM
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I guess it depends how you define "dating". I find it pointless to argue about semantics really, for me "dating" does not mean "first date" notice different endings? one ends with -ing and another with -e English is my third language and I'm really bad at it, so maybe I'm wrong and dating does not mean something that happens regularly. For me when someone says dating it means that those two persons are seeing eachother and forming some kind of close relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:22 PM
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Why? Its not like you change your opinion. Information has been available for long time and is not hidden. It just gets ignored. Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:17 PM
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I’m convinced HAS to cause trauma Killing someone is worse than trauma. Every year over 100 little boys are killed because of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 02:05 PM
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This freedom has almost always been morally judged Yes it has, but men still did it. Now its easier for sure, social stigma still exists but its easier to ignore. Men have many more 'lone wolf' types compared to women, always had.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 09:12 AM
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This is strawmanning. Stop it. We are discussing it in context of relationships, where women do 70% of assaults. And if you mean gay relationships, those have lowest rates of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:11 AM
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By other men in non romantic contexts No. By their romantic partners. When will people like you stop pushing those lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:36 AM
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A lot of men are going their way for their own reasons, never even hearing of the term MGTOW. And such actions are way older than concept of MGTOW. Men has been doing it for millennia. Maybe not as often as today, but it has always existed. Men just function well alone compared to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:12 AM
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Its very complicated gaslighting. I'm over 50. It's not 'male loneliness epidemic' in some kind of negative sense. Its overblown, taken out of context and turned around 180 degrees to avoid discussing what really happens. They conveniently forget that men function well as single. Much better compared to being in bad relationship. There is even no need for data (but data exists too), just open your eyes and look around yourself. And its nothing new, it has always existed. It is same today as it w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 08:10 AM
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There is no such thing as patriarchy. Not even in Afganistan. I mean, it would be if we go by my definition, but Im nobody. Why it can't exist is very simple, nobody knows what it means, nobody can define it. If concept is not possible to define, it does not exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 07:33 AM
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So are gay men considered predators too? You expect people who do not know how to define men and women to answer so loaded question? Good luck with that :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 04:31 PM
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They can't try it. There is nobody to enforce it. State violence is enforced by people, mostly men. There is reason for that. Western women are so lucky western men are so benevolent and love them so much. Otherwise whole world would be one big Afganistan, with curfew, to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 04:30 PM
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women are equally or even more violent in the context of relationships Even more, and its not even close. Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 03:41 PM
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Yes, this is how they operate. Just take well-defined concept and redefine it into nothingness. Then complain that nobody (including themselves) understand what they talk about.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/04/26 03:22 PM
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It was argued already. Info is hard to find as google did serious purge of it from internet, because showing their intent so openly created enormous backlash. Some info still exists, just try to find international castration day
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/26 03:20 PM
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They have no idea how to define patriarchy. When I give them some definition (from other feminists), they usually argue that its not this.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/04/26 02:13 PM
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The word manosphere emerged first on blogspot and was then used by MRA circles long before it reached feminism. Partially true, but irrelevant. We are not discussing it's roots, I already admitted I don't know those roots. So idk why you think the name stems from feminism I don't remember ever saying that. What part of my comment made you think so? or it is feminists using it mostly? Yes, today 2026. Its of course my personal experience. Mostly when I see it used its either women using it to put…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:30 PM
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core values to feminism There are so many, that to start you need to read about 200 books. More you read, less you know, more confused you get. like being against sexism Very few feminists are like that. They mostly just redefine what sexism means to suit their narrative and exclude men and boys. wanting equal rights between men and women Again, very rare. They mostly just redefine what equal is, what rights is and then ignore everything men say about it. Rarely men will identify themselves as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:29 PM
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All those different feminisms have much more in common than for example 'manosphere' that they love to push under one umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:09 PM
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I don’t trust a lot of the studies You can stop right here. Lot of studies exist where when you look inside you see its not science. They like missed basic scientific method 101 course. They redefine things to suit them, cherry-pick data, ignore everything that goes against their intent etc etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/26 04:36 PM
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Then you use wrong label. It won't work. Feminists have never been and never will treat men in fair way. There is just too much rot in that movement for it. Too many whose whole personality is only hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:00 PM
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most testing is done for women to find out how it affects women. Don't stop there. Also read this part after it: 'most testing is done for women to find out how it affects women.' Women have less participation in first most dangerous step, but when you take whole testing process as whole, women tend to outnumber men as test subjects. Just not when its dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:50 AM
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That's the problem with feminism as movement. It's too big, too incoherent, contains too many people with different goals and agendas. Its not as bad as "manosphere" where feminists throw together groups that have pretty much nothing in common (except sex), but its very bad movement. You can't un-cancel anything. Nobody has that power, all power in feminist movement is in hands of tiny but extremely loud minority. They define what feminism is. When you label yourself feminist, you agree with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:48 AM
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No where does it state that the men are meeting the same standards as women for the same admission. There is nothing to admit. There is no such policy in admission of men to college or you would link to it. My linked article points out where you went wrong. Specifically this part: Report Highlights Only 10% of colleges favor men over women by more than 5% 48% of colleges favor women over men by more than 5% Universities that favor men are mostly liberal arts colleges Universities that favor wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:44 AM
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Do you know that lies change nothing? Do You know that Ambien WAS tested on women? DO You know how many people were injured by medicine every year and still do? What should we do? Stop work on medicines?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:51 AM
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I add some to /u/Grow_peace_in_Bedlam list Women win 80%+ of custody battles, even in cases of abuse or neglect by the mother Men are jailed for non-payment of child support, but women face no consequences for paternity fraud Men receive 63% longer prison sentences for the same crimes compared to women. Women can abort a pregnancy at any time. Men have zero say, and even if they don’t want the child, they are still forced to pay child support. 93% of fatal occupational injuries are men girls rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:29 PM
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Thats not data, that just bunch of lies. Men get into college with lower scores, lower grades, and lower extras. Did you even read your own sources? The article relies on anecdotes from admissions staff and other irrelevant sources. It does not prove formal, system-wide policy favoring men. Here is better article explaining this topic: https://collegerealitycheck.com/men-vs-women-college-admission-statistics-report/ But women tend to have on average higher IQ than men. They don't, your source is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:59 PM
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When and where were women finally freed from being property? You are aware that even today there are many women (men too) who are property?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:36 PM
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There are different varities of feminism, you cannot lump all feminists together. There is enough overlap in ideas to generalize some of it. When you claim that patriarchy and/or manosphere exists you have no right to claim that we cannot lump all feminists together. feminist who wants everyone to be treated in a fair and just way. Then you can't be feminist, because actions matter, words are empty. Feminism at its core is female supremacy movement. Some sugarcoat is better, but end-goals are sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:33 PM
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"o you can change your mind when confronted with overwhelming evidence" It won't change your mind, but I promise I will change my mind about issues where you make sense and can provide proof. I have done it before. There was one feminist in reddit who I agreed with about some issues. If you had an open mind, you wouldn't sit here and claim we don't still live in a patriarchal society. I don't claim only that. I literally claim that we CAN'T live in patriarchal society. It's literal impossibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:33 PM
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Actually women complain the opposite and say that not enough studies have been performed on women compared to men. Yes, I know some people love to complain. Does not make them right of course, still complain. perhaps it is because medical science needs to catch up for how little research they did about women in the past compared to how much they did about men. And, wrong again. Maybe check before you perhaps assume something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:39 PM
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Look who are people who started it. All of them were rich upper class white women. But, I agree that its pointless argument, I have no proof. I just say that when it walks like oligarch and talks like oligarch, it probably is oligarch. Especially when you look who benefits. 'Cui bono' is still very good concept to follow. We argue about tiny differences in low relevance areas, they benefit. Do you think its just coincidence all that culture war crap went to overdrive when "Occupy Wall Street" wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:12 PM
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First good start is to not let oppressors distract us with irrelevant noise. Yes, I just called whole feminism movement and women's rights irrelevant noise. Thats why global elite created it, thats why they trump it up. Yes, culture wars is another example of such irrelevant noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:03 PM
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But some small areas in some backwards country does not define western civilization in general. Also, every abortion is not healthcare. It can be, but that's very rare. Most abortions are done because of socioeconomic reasons. Much bigger problem for example is fact how male health research is underfunded compared to female health research. Or how men are used like guinea pigs to test new general treatments before women test subjects are included and still when all testing is done, most testing …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:02 PM
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To be honest this just sounds like you think that there are not enough, or large enough, advantages for men to merit being called a system of oppression? That's fair call in this context. Except I do call it oppression, just not gender-based oppression. It's class based oppression. I think that it's reasonable to say that many of the largest, most structural advantages have been removed in democratic countries over the last century. Most of those never existed. Not even over century ago. Also, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:56 PM
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majority of men are supposed to benefit identically to each other. Not that. I don't think its even possible. But there has to be some overlap, otherwise its too specific and pointless. Patriarchal ideas do set up powers, privileges, authorities, etc. for men that are greater than women have under those ideas, But then they have failed. As vast majority of men won't have greater privileges and/or authorities than women. Differences exist, but are minuscule compared to privileges coming from clas…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:37 PM
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Yes, I agree it's not necessary for patriarchal ideas to be single, dominant set of beliefs in society. But its weird when people call it patriarchal when common denominator has nothing to do with sex. Patriarchy for me is very strongly correlated with sex. Patriarchy is system where majority of men are supposed to benefit. It does not really matter how you define it (I mean in detail), you have to show how it benefits most of the men, it has to have sex component or its something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:13 PM
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I'm not American, so I can't discuss those parts, just not competent enough about your society. I only have outsiders look inside, and this is usually wrong. The definition I use is focused on patriarchal beliefs emphasizing the relative authority and power of men as compared to women across different spheres of public and private life. Thats very bad definition. Too fuzzy, I can just tell you that it does not exist and can't exist and there is nothing for you to tell that would make me wrong. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:58 PM
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I agree with most what you write here. But, you are not arguing with me. You are giving me examples. Those are true. Yes, we can never even come close to ideal equality. We still should have basic equality of opportunity. Like nobody should be discriminated because of their sex or skincolor or shape of nose, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:53 PM
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Feminism is pro equal rights - It is not pro equal rights. It's pro women rights. There is difference. For me, women's rights do not exist. Also, men's rights do not exist. I'm egalitarian, we all have human rights. as women are the subjugated class Women are not class. They are not subjugated more than same class men are. Poor people are subjugated class by rich people, this I agree with. But it seems like you yourself don't agree that things are unequal to start I agree with that. I just wrote…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:50 PM
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By this logic neither 'love' nor 'justice' nor 'gender' exist. Thats irrelevant. If you change definition of those to mean nothing, then yes it cant exist. Concepts can only exist when we agree what that concept even means. If its too wide, or too strict, it just can't exist. Disagree, but certainly it manifests differently today Thats the problem, it does not manifest at all, it can't. First to prove it exists you have to tell me what defintion of it you subscribe to. Go to AskFeminists/wiki/ a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:38 PM
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Nobody famous. Just someone I had healthy debate in reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:32 PM
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Be more specific. What part of healthcare? Women have access to healthcare, better access than men. At least they do not face societal pressure not to go to doctor when ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:31 PM
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Because it's about women having access to education, jobs, finances, etc. So if feminism is about "women having access to education, jobs, finances", they have that now. What is this "etc" part that is still missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:25 PM
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You mix up equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Equality of opportunity should exist. Equality of outcome can't exist, just won't work. You can smooth out differences a bit, but you would never achieve it, you would just shift inequalities to different areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:23 PM
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I guess you can't support an equal rights movement As an egalitarian, yes I can. I do not support any movements that are sexist, like feminism for example. I only support movements that are openly pro equal rights. if you don't agree that things are unequal in the first place. I have never met such people. Things have always been, are now and will always be unequal. Question is about definitions and what matters more. But many men will accept that patriarchy exists They are wrong then. Patriarch…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:21 PM
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Support feminism, not individual feminists who are toxic. It should be other way around. I would never support feminism. There is too much toxicity in it and even if its not monolithic movement, every subset of feminism has toxic component. There is one feminist that I can agree with about some of her talking points. I'm ok supporting her, rest of them have to prove themselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:13 PM
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I just made bad joke. But, if you think about it. No matter what claim we take, even if it is true, it just would make misogynists such a tiny subset of total men that it would be totally irrelevant. 5 such men in whole world can't change anything.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/26 11:29 AM
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No no. She is into something here. She just explains why misogyny and misogynists can't exist.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/04/26 10:45 AM
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It's not directly Germany. It's Moldova, Caucasus and then Baltics. Baltics attack would affect EU directly and all countries should be in war then, that's in EU agreement. EU mutual defense clausel has much stronger wording compared to NATO 5th.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/26 09:41 AM
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the difference of 1+ hour is observed among those who are married. That's bad methodology then. They should actually only compare single people. Married people have emotional issue where women invent chores that "should" be done. This skews picture a lot. I trust my source more. I saw it after separation where I discovered that house-hold "chores" are very easy and take very short time. Women just say that "I did 4h chores, I did laundry". Laundry takes 10 minutes that you spend putting your stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 01:23 PM
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Where did you take your info from? I did quick search and found https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/american-time-use-survey-9621/2023-results-704446?page=2 the days they did household activities, women spent an average of 2.7 hours on these activities, while men spent 2.1 hours. (See table 1.) Thats difference of 36 minutes/day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:45 PM
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That mechanism would be called socialisation. I'm not sure where you're getting this? Sex differences in risk-taking appear in very young children (before strong social conditioning). Also it appears with many non-human species with very different social systems. Some differences correlate with hormones (testosterone), kind of biological. Other mammals also exist in social groups and socialise I somewhat agree with you in sense that it's not only biological. But, I also never claimed that its on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:48 PM
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There are very few genes that are specific to either men or women. Then there has to be some other mechanism in play to explain reality we experience daily. A woman whose brother is a risk taker is also predisposed to be a risk taker, but women are much more heavily discouraged from taking risks from birth. In many mammals, males show higher risk-taking than females. This is well documented in behavioral ecology and comparative psychology. Seems to be biological. Humans follow a common mammalian…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 09:12 AM
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I'm statistical average and I have had gf who I had to be very careful with to not cause pain. Some women are more sensitive when you hit cervix and sometimes its surprisingly close.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:39 AM
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I'm also not arguing, I'm accepting your opinion and some of my experiences support your conclusion too. In summer the men oftentimes wear shirt sleeved shirts. And you still have 'temostat wars' going?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:08 AM
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You just say it. Looking through this post and your answers, you clearly have no idea how huge privileges you have, compared to black men, and I won't even go to other races as it would cause enormous grief to me and I have no energy to go to that stupid "race war" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:21 AM
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Its not something to argue about. I would never say that my personal experience invalidates yours. I accept your conclusion, I still think that office based 'termostat wars' would go away if men were allowed to wear normal summer clothes in there. Actually your experience validates my point, if it is true (and I have no reason to disbelieve, especially shower temperature is also my experience) then male dress code should be even more lenient and forced. I'm already chuckling thinking about all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:19 AM
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The topic of my post was misogyny Because a lot of cases of men not acknowledging misogyny is caused by fact that a lot of women like you deny misandry even exists. Anyone with brain understands that those are two sides of same coin. Either both sides exist, or none. You not accepting answer, does not make it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:09 AM
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misandry isn’t real That's because most of what we see as misandry is misogyny for you. Western societies operate on a “male disposability” model. Higher risk, higher obligation, lower protection, lower sympathy. This is systemic misandry, not individual prejudice. Following are just some examples of systemic misandry. I won't even touch cultural misandry as I'm sure you won't even read those issues I already listed. In Western countries, mothers receive primary custody ~65–85% of the time, depe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:04 AM
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leaning women leaning (towards) women in this context means that women have systemic and cultural advantages that men do not have. Of course English is my third language and I don't pretend I could not be wrong, but this is how I understand it from context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:57 AM
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Nobody likes to be called something they are not. Especially when label you assign is so weakly defined that every one of you seem to have different meaning, that in the end collapses into 'I do not agree with you'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:55 AM
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You are good example of 'privilege is invisible to those who have it'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:53 AM
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I come from country with one of the lowest amount of religiosity, You know what keeps religion alive around here? Women, vast majority of believers are women and it's not even close. This was in such way 30 years ago (when I was young) and its same today.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:51 AM
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I disagree. when sexual reproduction rights are still precarious in some parts of the west Whole world has about 24 countries where abortion in all circumstances is prohibited. I'm sorry that you live in one of such shithole countries. It still not misogyny, it's not based on hatred of women. Religion is likely to be one of the major components behind total abortion bans worldwide. Western countries where abortion is banned are Andorra and San Marino. Malta also used to ban, but they made some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:43 AM
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Never mind the rising violence against them Its not rising, its going down actually. Even feminist sources agree with that. Historical comparison is complicated because much older historical data are scarce and definitions of violence have been changed a lot, but indicators show decline of rate of violence against women specifically, and that's not western world, we are speaking about global statistics here, even those countries where beating your wife with thumb wide stick is god given right. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:15 AM
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The whole termostat wars. This is personal experience now (I'm over 50 and worked my whole life in corporate setting), so no 'sources', no science etc. In my opinion it comes down to dress code. As someone from Northern Europe I noticed it is not problem during winter but as soon as summer starts, huge problems start. Problem to me seems to be that men have strict dress code that enforces them to cover up whole body with multiple layers, while women go around in flimsy sundress. I understand nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:04 AM
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Yes thats true. Estonia already has 22% of population Russians. Them and their family members are not blocked from entering. It's only new ones with no current connection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 12:20 PM
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Stop with "technically" and forget wiki.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:50 AM
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It is not gendered problem and also not left/right problem. She was/is politician, politicians say irrelevant stupid things and confuse everything. That's not news, they do such things in every country. That policy is to protect Estonia from security risks not to ban Russian men specifically. Also I was too categorical, Estonia still accepts Russians, just not random ones. Like for family reasons they are still accepted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:49 AM
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I actually was not aware of that until just now. Why do you ask? To make you aware that she probably knows and disregards that opinion from Marx. She is well known right winger, with right wing views. Ah, I didn't check to see if she's still prime minister, as she's described in the OP's title. Yes I too fell into stupid trap that I saw that this tweet is from 2026, so I was confused. She was prime minister 2022 when she said that. Weird to bring it up in 2026, she has said worse things. It just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:23 AM
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Why post years old slop then? She has not been PM since 2024.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 08:06 AM
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Yes its legal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:33 AM
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Kallas is a racist who genuinely hates Russians. Russian is not race, so this is very weird take. Kaja Kallas is well known right wing grifter and quite suspicious and not popular politician, but she has never shown any bit of racism. When Russian politicians talk about “Western hypocrisy” and “NATO expansionism” they are thinking of her Russian politician talks, opinion disregarded. In Russia there is only one "politician" whose talk can be taken seriously, its Putin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:32 AM
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You do understand that she is old enough and received actual formal education about Marxism in Soviet Union? I don't think that denial is a coincidence on her part, given that she presides over a former Soviet state She is well known local right-winger, so her political view-point is common knowledge, but she DOES NOT preside over Estonia. She works for EU since 2024. Of course it changes nothing as current PM is also well known right winger. It's also irrelevant as being left/right has nothing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:30 AM
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Most Afgan (very few) and Syrians (little bit more, but still few) who fled to Europe were men not women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:25 AM
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Does she do the same for Russian women running away from their country? She can't. She has no power in Estonia, she has been working for EU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Representative_of_the_Union_for_Foreign_Affairs_and_Security_Policy But answer is yes, it's not gender based. Estonia does not accept more Russians no matter if male or female.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:25 AM
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Kaja Kallas is not PM of Estonia. One google would say that. There is also deeper reason why countries like Estonia can't give asylum to Russians. Start of Ukrainian invasion 2022 demonstrated it when local Russians were actively used to check out military movements and damage from attacks and target information. Estonia already has many local Russians, it's just smart for them to make it harder for GRU to plant more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 07:22 AM
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Because its very hard to separate art from artist. Very few of us can actually do it. For me it's easy. For example, there is probably nothing in real life I would agree about with Kameron Hurley, and I still find her book "The Light Brigade" one of the best books.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/01/26 08:42 AM
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Also, if she hates men so much why is she dating a man right now? Because he is "one of the good ones", till he is not.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/01/26 08:39 AM
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Why do you think the term "doormat" exists to describe people if nobody actually exists who fits the description? Because people love words that describe concepts that does not exist. When some word means something they are very glad to go and muddle that word till it means nothing. Doormat is of course bad example of that, its usually used as insult and insult mostly are baseless exaggerations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:27 AM
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Then you have some very weird definition of 'completely a doormat' that is very different from mine. I have never met even one person who I could describe as 'completely a doormat'
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:04 AM
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No I'm not. That was just random example how being submissive works in my opinion. This is what he was speaking about: At least in my experience, if a guy proves he's trustworthy and actually takes initiative, and cares for her, a woman is perfectly willing to follow his lead. You told that those women are 'absolute doormats'. I disagree. Women who are 'willing to follow his lead' are usually not 'absolute doormats'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:50 AM
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Yes he is not. This is part where I agree with you. What I disagree about is your take on 'those women are absolute doormats'. They may be, but most of them are not. I would even say that for majority of them being submissive is constrained into bedroom. I could be wrong even with that, its just based on my personal experience. Most people are not submissive in every area, but in same time they are in some area. Probably also comes to how you even define submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:44 AM
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Those women are absolute doormats. It's not that easy. There are plenty of people (yes men too) who are submissive in some areas of life and not in other areas. I mean there have been examples of high power successful people who enjoyed submissive sexual relationship. I don't think I have ever met person who is 100% submissive in every area of life. For example, my childrens mother is kind of submissive usually, but when it comes to children she turns to mother lion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:22 AM
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I'm putting a strawman up in response to this strawman post. His post is opinion. It's clear when you read it. If you have opinion about some concept it's not strawman. He is not misrepresenting an opponent position. It's kind of impossible because there are many feminist positions and he does not target specific persons opinion. You can't strawman such vague and fluid idea. Who are these people who are doing all these things? This posts whole point is about criticizing ideas, not people. There …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 07:24 AM
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I don't think you know what strawman is. Just in case one of the common definitions: Misrepresenting an opponent’s position — making it weaker, simpler, or different — and then attacking that distorted version instead of the real argument. I think you are much closer to strawman than OP is, but if we call it sealioning we are much closer to what you are doing here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 09:56 PM
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You have to argue ideas Yes, we can agree to that. I always argue with ideas. Like when someone writes question: How many men's rights people are just open misogynists? I argue against premise of such question, because in my opinion men's right people are not more misogynistic compared to other random sample of people. That of course depends how you define misogyny. I can't argue with you when we don't speak same language.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 05:49 PM
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I gotta say, I do get tired of this seeming dogmatism regarding character growth being a requirement for every character in writing, like that's the only thing that can make a story interesting, or being interesting is the only purpose a story can serve. I agree with that. I don't want always the same. Sometimes power-fantasy is fun to read. But I also quickly get tired when every book I read is power fantasy. Character growth is not mandatory to make story interesting, but you can't just make o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 04:59 PM
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One important part of masculinity is that you DGF about what other people think. You get to define what matters for you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 11:49 AM
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Perfect characters in any entertainment just makes for boring entertainment. There is no room for growth. I have always loved books and mary sue (male or female, no difference) characters are ok for short term entertainment, but if you keep consuming only similar plots, it just gets mind-numbingly boring really fast. More complex characters bring so much more to the table.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 10:21 AM
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How many men's rights people are just open misogynists? This is mental gymnastics. It's only possible because mens rights people are usually included into wider "manosphere" context even when they have nothing in common with other parts like incels or red pill. To prove it you have to show that men's rights people are in average more misogynistic compared to some random sample of men. I would say from my personal experience that men's rights people are less misogynists than average men and also …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 09:15 AM
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Then they should not use study that does not measure what they claim. If they want to compare DV in lesbian vs gay relationships they should just check one such. Like for example this one: "lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively)." https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-resource-dv-lgbti-2020.pdf
/r/EverydayMisandry17/01/26 03:33 PM
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We are speaking about real life, not about some sick fantasy. If you want to go that road just check out NSFW books women read. Those are full blown misogynistic smut porn. Those are mainstream and widely sold even in amazon. Still there is difference between fantasy and real life.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/01/26 12:05 PM
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The patriarchy If you can't define concept, it does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:05 AM
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there are tons of spaces that talk about issues with men and sexism and don't go into misandry. That's because how you see and define misandry. Lot of you claim it does not exist, so of course it's impossible to go there. Lot of you claim that its not misandry but misogyny, so again it's impossible to go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:28 AM
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Intersectionality is pretty weak at explaining causes. They can't make it stronger. If they try the whole facade would collapse. For example if reproductive responsibility were treated symmetrically, feminism would have to address male reproductive rights. So they just keep it vague.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 07:41 AM
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I understand what you say, I just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:47 PM
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younger people aren't far more likely to be susceptible to these kinds of toxic relationships. I mean this part. I haven't seen statistics that show that younger people have more toxic relationships. So I go with my personal experience. Toxic relationships concentrate on certain people disregarding their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:33 PM
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I have not seen statistics, so I don't know. What I know is based on my own personal life experiences and in my opinion being susceptible to toxic relationships has no age parameter. It can and does happen at any age. Also, there are people who are always (or often) in toxic relationship. Once it can be accident, but when one after another is toxic and violent then its up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:39 PM
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You can have a fully developed brain and still lack the world experience to recognize toxic and harmful relationships. I'm over 50. Most people I communicate with are around my age. I know my age woman who is smart and has fully developed brain and still lacks experience to recognize toxic and harmful relationships. Even when every friend she has tells her same, she still refuses to recognize. She only had one healthy relationship, all rest were violent, toxic and harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:32 PM
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These are adult men, fucking teenagers 8.8 years younger than them and getting them pregnant before they can finish schooling and get a good paying job. That's interesting find. Good look back to 30 years ago. This was a population-based, retrospective cohort analysis of all 12,317 very young adolescent mothers residing in California with a first singleton live birth during 1993-1995 I wonder if and how it has changed. Interesting if such research is even possible to do in current political clim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:11 PM
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patriarchy, where women are systematically oppressed by men We don't have that in western society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:50 PM
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I’m talking about people who intentionally seek out people who have significantly less life experience than them. Your experience argument is just wrong. I had more life experience when I was 16 than a lot of people have at 25. Its huge difference if you grow up in ghetto or in safe sheltered suburb. And when we go by age argument, it's kind of weird too. Is it even problem in reality? How many 18 year olds do you even know who have age-gap relationship with 30+? I can't remember even one. I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:35 PM
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legally murder Murder by definition is illegal killing. For example, when you are in military and kill another soldier (like in battle) its not murder by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:30 PM
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I was 23 when I seeked out and seduced 37 year old woman. I thought it's good idea as she was hot and I wanted to learn how to be better at sex, neither of us thought it was long term, we knew its purely sexual. I'm over 50 now, I still thank her as I think her teaching was reason why all my partners have been content with our sex life. I don't think she groomed me or was predator. I was hunting her not other way around. I had to work hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:26 PM
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It doesn’t even compare abuse among couples. But the amount of dv experienced by different type of individuals. That includes, partner violence but also familial abuse. Why do you search info from irrelevant study then? Why not check out actual studies that people speak about? You can get links from my answers to other people here (about study that dv stats are higher amongst lesbian women compared to gay men): https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qaaggt/dating_women_is_significant…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:02 AM
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Gay women or women in a gay relationship have a much higher self report for DV because they usually were in a relationship with a man who had abused them before their gay relationship Could you please stop it? Its wrong. I just answered same allegation here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qaaggt/dating_women_is_significantly_harder_than_dating/nz4vdfx/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:46 AM
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You're making this claim in order to paint women as special snowflakes and blame their male exes for the DV. She just literally lies. I answered her lie here: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1qaaggt/dating_women_is_significantly_harder_than_dating/nz4vdfx/ Sorry for np link, automod wont let me link it otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:43 AM
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women are statistically reported to experience DV by men at much higher levels and more severe Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Recipro…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:42 AM
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statistic on dv rates in lesbian/bisexual relationships is about people who have EXPERIENCED DV in the past, not specifically in lesbian relationships. People who claim that do it because they did not read source. It's specifically in lesbian relationship, compared to gay relationship. It's also not about experiencing, it's about reporting. So reason could also be that lesbians make more false allegations compared to gays. "lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:28 AM
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You first have to show me where I claimed they are all violent terrorists. Why? It has no connection with anything I claimed. Show me where I claimed that you claimed that they are ALL violent terrorists. You didn't even read what I wrote. Incels are associated with violence, hatred and misogyny, often engaging in violent fantasies about women in their online communities. And thats worthless. First you have to show me where I said that they are not. But even more importantly you have to expand y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:00 AM
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And yet you keep bringing out sources that clearly used definitions before those evolved. Claim should be (and you need to prove it) that incels as group commit more violent acts (or terrorism if you wish) than random control group (regular men). It does not seem to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:50 AM
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I linked you source that say's you are incorrect. You have to compare acts of terrorism to some baseline. Otherwise just listing terrorist acts is pointless and proves nothing. Also, you can easily get such results when you just redefine what some word means. That's not science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:39 AM
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That’s no longer what incel means after all the terrorist attacks done in the name of the ideology. https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2023/07/Whyisnttheremoreincelviolence.pdf When people say incel, they mean violent misogynist. Then there is very few incels who would fit old definition. You could even say that if its true then you changed definition of apple to mean orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:20 AM
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Incel is different than virgin Of course, thats just common sense and I think most people would agree. Incel does not have to be virgin, and virgin does not have to be incel. Incel used to be defined as involuntary celibate, nowdays it's for some reason redefined as 'I do not agree with you'. Even random women get's called it sometimes. But incel to a lot of women tends to be men who are aggressive because of their lack of being able to have sex. I actually got curious when I was called incel (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:13 AM
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basically saying I am worthless unless im attractive or can provide them sex I can't agree with that. Your worth is not measured like that. What they do say is that they don't find you friend material, but their bar for sexual partner is much lower. I don't think talking and interactions come to play here at all, there are other reasons why men avoid doing it with women lately. I do interact and talk with women I'm comfortable with (and don't have sex with), but I'm very careful with women stran…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:47 AM
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after having been married once and divorced already wtf? If its not secret, where are you from? Also, wtf? How is this even possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 08:42 AM
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I gave you multiple, you can easily find more. Those people are feminists as a group. If you keep adding artificial qualifiers then of course nothing would fit your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 04:36 PM
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Im not arguing at all. I try to understand what you mean when you say feminism hurts men. When people say that some concept hurts some people, then they usually do not mean that something abstract hurts, they mean that some subset of people who subscribe to that concept hurt people. Thats why I asked example from patriarcy, as it is also abstract concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:00 PM
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Hatred hurts. People hate and hurt. Feminists are people who subscribe to feminism. You set artificial and pointless qualifiers. Give me one example how patriarchy hurts women today in western society and I will try to dig out something similar about feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:48 AM
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You might not be trying to paint them as a terror group, but lots of men here are. Show me even one example. Maybe I'm just not subscribed to those extreme subreddits, I have not even seen one such claim. So that’s why I continue to ask for evidence of this, and still no one, you included, can find any evidence of it I gave you evidence you asked for. Evidence for feminists hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:24 AM
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So not actually not even one instance then? I can bring you to water, but I can't make you drink trying to label feminism as some sort of terror group Not even once have I done that. I have never even seen such claim. they ignore the rising violence against women n girls Historical comparison is complicated because much older historical data are scarce and definitions of violence have changed but even feminist sources disagree with that. Progress on reducing intimate partner violence has been pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:13 AM
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First I tell you what I mean by certain words. So you have less chance of misinterpreting what I wrote. Sometimes it seems to me, that my English is so bad (its my third language) that I may aswell speak different language than some native speakers. Feminism is a broad set of ideas and movements centered on the claim that women and men should have equal legal rights, social status, and opportunities, and that social structures which systematically disadvantage women should be identified and chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:57 AM
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I specifically did not ask for proof at all. Because proof (or sources if you will) does not reflect your views. I actually just asked for you opinion and view. How does those things manifest in real life. I already have sources, and those show that majority of men endorse core egalitarian norms. So it seems to me that they are not affected by TRP (or manosphere, if you wish to widen the net) talking points. Thats why it's for me hard to believe that TRP is mainsteam, they should have much bigge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:06 AM
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The fact remains that tweets aren't real life. Depends. Who tweets and what. Tweets can have real life consequences. I mean, your president keeps tweeting. But how is it relevant to my case? I did not link 'just more tweets'. You can go check yourself if you don't believe me. There is no national movement to take men's rights away. Depends from location and definitions. There is no national movement to take women's rights away is as true, and as useless. We can't even argue about it as it really…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:42 AM
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Are you seriously saying that's a bad thing? Yes I think its very bad thing that she keeps asking for sources after she has been linked hundreds of sources already and she dismisses those as 'just some tweets', I don't know how many tweets there are, but I can assure you, there are non-tweet sources too. Many actually. Reddit is a terrible source Subreddits I linked are just consolidated lists to outside sources. Wikipedia is also very bad source for anything, but you can still use it to check o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:38 AM
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I think you should consider your responses better. It seems to me that you bring no substance. You just keep repeating buzzwords and explain nothing to support your claim. I don't ask for sources, just explain what you mean. With your words. How following things manifest in our western society today (sorry if Im mistaken about your location, our experiences are very different if you are from Afganistan for example) influence of the manosphere (how influential and prominent TRP and manosphere are…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 08:33 AM
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Yes, I have noticed that she keeps asking for 'sources'
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:57 PM
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Thats the thing. Its not prominent and it's effect is not noticeable. If it was mainstream and had effect you claim we would see more men with such views. Most men don't even know what views they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:39 PM
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"lesbians commit more domestic violence" What study do you mean? There is study that says "lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively)." It's just that its interpreted wrongly. People don't even check the headline and then use it in wrong context. "Intimate partner violence in lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, intersex and queer communities" https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:18 PM
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Review the title of the thread. You should read the post, not just title. It says "Feminism .. yada yada. He brings up two claims he finds important. I agree with him about those issues, but I do think there are more important things that I don't like about feminist discourse. Of course I leave him right to his opinion. There is no nuance or "some" I think you should read post. I don't see anywhere where he could add "some", I just don't see absolute statements there, maybe you can point me to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:04 PM
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Most guys haven't really checked out red pill stuff, don't call themselves that, and don't actually believe its main ideas. When you look at what people think about dating and gender roles, most men still have pretty old-school views. That already puts red pill ideas outside the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:51 PM
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Even if that damage exists it would not make it mainstream. Their propaganda is quite toothless. Majority of men endorse core egalitarian norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:42 PM
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"all anything" is way too extreme to describe most of the things in society. Things are much more fluid. Also, where did I mention here "all women" or "all feminists"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:38 PM
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I can, if you tell me what you mean by attack. It's clear that you refuse examples there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:33 PM
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Why do feminist have to have the moral high ground? Because it's mainstream. Has been for decades. You know what happend with TRP? They became mainstream. Come back when they lecture us in UN. It's very tiny fringe thing, most people never heard of it. It's not mass movement like feminism is. It's fringe subculture. "not all men!" Then start listening when feminists speak to you and stop that stupid pandering to patriarchy concept. You have two options, you either drop it, or you will always los…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:30 PM
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Well, then you either did not open any of topics in those two subreddits. Or you define attacking differently than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:17 PM
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I sent you whole subreddit with evidence. You labeled it 'just some tweets' and refused to open any. Still you have time to complain here that no links is sent to you. I give you another one /r/TheTinMen and don't tell it's only tweets, anyone can go there and check for tweets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:10 PM
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So just more tweets? You didn't even look there. Go open some and check.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:58 PM
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Never seen terror group claim, but for newer than 2014 examples of misandry you can start in here r/ToxicFeminismIsToxic/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:46 PM
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They have to use it. Otherwise whole concept of patriarchy collapses and without it they would be like headless chickens.
/r/EverydayMisandry09/01/26 12:37 PM
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You can't really save people from something like the manosphere pipeline because it's not a real, organized thing. People often describe it like a group where everyone thinks the same, but the only shared thing is that most people in these online spots are men. MRA's care about things like family law, schools, or healthcare, and argue mostly for policy changes. That puts them in a very different category from other groups. Red pill usually don't believe in group solutions. If you simplify, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:29 AM
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It's not that simple. If you notice then all this stuff has been pushed more and more. It's goal is not just clicks, its distraction, to keep masses busy and concentrate their anger at wrong targets. Yes, I know I sound like some old weird conspiracy theorist. I try to keep open mind, but its getting really hard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 07:38 AM
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Skimmed, its not worth to actually read. Too much misandry and rambling. Not enough substance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 07:04 PM
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I can't take Hooks seriously. Her definition of patriarchy does not exist currently in western world. That's why nowdays even feminists move away from using pointless term like patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 06:00 PM
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Send some links then.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/26 08:18 AM
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Of course. I have excellent taste in women clothes. Every single one of my partners have always appreciated my input about their clothes and accessories. They ask for it because they know I see full picture and can easily give advice that makes them look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:09 PM
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It literally changes nothing in lives of 99.9999% of people if you replace every single elite man with elite woman. Common denominator for those people is not their gender (or sex) but their class.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:03 PM
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Marriage adds 1.7 years to a man's life, but it shortens a women's life by 1.4 years. Its selection effect for both genders. Married women overall don't die younger than unmarried women. Its other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:48 AM
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Not only marathons, even in extreme endurance long distance running elite men are still much faster than elite women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:39 AM
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That's why men commit 92% of violent crimes. They don't. Majority yes, not 92% You guys often use your "powers" for evil I guess it depends how you define "evil", but most men do not. Most men are benevolent and kind. Criminals are very tiny subset of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 11:28 AM
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.34% sounds insanely high. But then I remember seeing something about something where someone explained that in US you can get in that list for public urination. Is it true?
/r/EverydayMisandry29/12/25 11:39 AM
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Evidence does not show that married women overall die younger than unmarried women. Its other way around actually, but it doesn’t mean marriage causes longer life. A big part of the pattern is likely selection effects.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/12/25 03:38 PM
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Yes crazy ex is very bad and counters women argument 'but we don't see it at first, we have no idea that he is toxic, its not written on his face'. He tells you, you just refuse to listen.
/r/EverydayMisandry23/12/25 03:24 PM
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Thats really weird take, I always ignore pictures anyway, those tend to be edited and filtered to hell. I ask for immediate random videocall to see real her. Its not even so much about looks, its more about filter out possible scammers.
/r/EverydayMisandry22/12/25 10:50 AM
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Its very common, they literally refuse to read things they disagree with, so they just downvote. For example, try to tell them that 'sources' they linked do not support their claims and you will see.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/12/25 09:45 AM
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Because they redefined it. Original meaning is lost now as it would not fit their narrative.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/12/25 09:43 AM
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That's really interesting take you gathered here. Im starting to think that even so called 'wage gap' could have been created by that. I don't mean feminist wage gap that does not exist (women get paid less for same effort), but real life wage gap where men earn more in total. Men just tend to be more confrontational, go to boss and tell them 'pay me more or Im out of here'. For example I immediately went for other job and told HR what I think about their policy when they refused to accommodate …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 09:21 AM
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It's kind of weird. Sharks are not really fish. Actually there is no good definition of fish. This was interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C3lR3pczjo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 08:46 PM
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I think you wanted to say unironically misogynistic. Because it really is, there is no irony here, they are literally misogynistic and infantilize adult women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 08:42 PM
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You can't force respect, its easiest way to lose all of it. Respect is earned not given.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 01:47 PM
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It does not make sense because it has no connection whatsover with Schrodinger Cat thought experiment. They literally just proved that females can't understand such complex concepts and that's sad. I have met many women who do understand and then you see dumb becky who ruins it for all women all over the world.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/12/25 07:30 AM
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You know Wikipedia can be edited by anyone You know its wrong? Wikipedia is even more moderated than reddit. They do not tolerate 'wrong-think' there at all, and those power users get to decide what is 'wrong-think' with no rules or limitations on them.
/r/EverydayMisandry13/12/25 10:53 AM
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This is literally how they function. On double standards. Yes, all of them. Yes, some of them lie.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/12/25 09:19 PM
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Thats why I only date racists who hate my race while making me exception /s
/r/EverydayMisandry09/12/25 08:08 AM
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There are many issues, I expect people who participate here to be at least somewhat aware of at least some issues. You could easily add draft to list that kills men.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 03:30 PM
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Yes exactly, if it would be needed for STD prevention, it would show up in statistics. It does not.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 01:01 PM
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Well they say its needed because hygiene. When they tell you that, ask them if they are sure that not even single one of those boys would grow up with knowledge how to wash their dick. Also, how many little boys are they ready to kill, so some of the boys would not need to learn how to shower.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 12:44 PM
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I dont know what this word means. I have heard of circumcision, but that word does not exist for me, its just gaslighting to hide misandry. Its called male genital mutilation.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 12:42 PM
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Ok, literal example how systemic misandry kills little boys while girls are protected by law Even today children die because of this. In USA alone it's over 100 children every year. Actually nobody knows real numbers, because there is very strong incentive to wrongly classify cause of death. 100 deaths is probably low-balled number but it's best we have. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths Baby boys can and do succumb …
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 11:31 AM
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You mean that you are not aware of fact how systemic misandry kills over 100 little boys every year in USA?
/r/EverydayMisandry08/12/25 08:47 AM
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Misandry literally kills little boys. Physically kills, without any reason. This is just one example, men are killed by it too.
/r/EverydayMisandry07/12/25 08:25 PM
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women are still disproportionately affected in both metrics. Only if you define those metrics like that. Thats not science. A key thing to remember here is domestic violence isn't just partner to partner abuse, but can also be family member to family member. Yes true, check out what gender commits majority of domestic violence, especially against children. but for women it is DUE to their gender being perceived as lesser that they are targetted. Yes it does, in Afganistan for example. We of cour…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 01:10 PM
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the chance of a woman being killed by an intimate partner is 12% No its not, its not even close to that. Murder rate is measured in 1/100000 because this is how low it is. Female murder rate is even much less as men are 81% of the murder victims world wide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/25 12:50 PM
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Lot of countries are not bordering aggressive neighbor, that's true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/25 06:27 PM
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Thats stupidest thing I have read today in reddit. How is fact that elites start wars connected to Marx in any way? Marxist elites also start wars. There is no difference. Elites start wars, can't blame billions of men for actions of thousands.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/25 05:13 PM
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Shouldn't then women who does not participate in military or civil service (no idea if it exists in Switzerland, but it does in my country as alternative for non-violent men) also pay higher tax?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:55 AM
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No one should be drafted, but currently people are. Not having draft is privilege. Very few countries can afford to give such huge privilege. Most countries who have draft have aggressive neighbor, they have no better option. This of course does not excuse fact that everyone should give effort in there. Draft in normal countries also include non-violent options for men who don't want to fight. Women should be included in it equally. If they dont want to be drafted to combat roles, they can make …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:52 AM
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Men don't start wars. Elite class does, yes it also includes women. That's the problem with feminists. If you look through their core tenets and remove all class issues, there is nothing left. No gender issues at all, only class issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 10:20 AM
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There are no such thing. Homeless shelters are for all people, this is not men's shelter. Its just that men are vast majority of homeless, so it seems so. Also, homeless shelters where I live (EU) are more like regular housing, just government pays for it.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/11/25 09:08 AM
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