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Discussioniponi/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:34 PM
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George J. Borjas is one of the leading experts in this area. You're familiar with Mariel Boatlift but he has done other work. Whether you consider this work conclusive depends on your standard of evidence. It is very easy to demand a standard of evidence that is impossible to meet in economics. I'd argue that the burden of proof is actually on the other side as basic economic principles of supply and demand suggest that if you unevenly import a particular kind of worker then the salary of that k…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 07:19 PM
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It some countries it is illegal to take the child's saliva and do a DNA test without the mother's permission, so even if you can prove that the child is not yours you cannot use that evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 07:04 PM
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but so far they haven't been proven to depress wages anywhere Not true. There are studies showing that immigration has a significant negative effect on low-wage workers, while having a positive effect on high-wage workers. It's also basic economic logic that more supply = lower prices. I have nothing against limited protectionism to prevent other countries' state industry from undermining your own industries (i.e. Chinese steel dumping) If China's government wants to subsidise our steel I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:26 AM
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Intelligence is an inheritable trait, so these men are right. The correlation between the intelligence parents and their adopted children is virtually zero, the correlation between parents and their biological children, even if they have been adopted into a different family, is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:31 PM
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Attention yes, sex no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:13 PM
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TIL only people in Appalachia voted for Trump. Outsourced jobs aren't coming back anytime soon That depends on policy. They'll come back with severe import restrictions. Whether that is a good idea is a different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 05:08 PM
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That's nonsense. There are plenty of jobs that require NO qualifications but pay enough to live on. The jobs that they had were fine, but got outsourced, and on other jobs their salary gets competed away by illegal immigrants. That's why Trump made a point of criticising trade deals and illegal immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:55 PM
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Are you implying that the jobs that they would be able to do are undignified? These people want to take care of themselves with any job. They don't want handouts. Dignity for them is taking care of themselves rather than having to rely on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 11:45 PM
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Because unless you are an antinatalist who doesn't care at all about the subsequent generations you'd want the population to decline at a manageable pace. Otherwise you have zillions of old people dying of hunger because there aren't enough young people to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 11:23 AM
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I didn't try to gotcha anyone. You claimed that I had said something that I clearly had not. I have not even implied it. Hence you have missed my logic. Hence projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 11:21 AM
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I didn't say that abortion and so on is "opting in", so you were projecting. Predictable you can't follow the logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:52 AM
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When there's a question I have to answer it and I don't bother reading the rest of the comment. If you don't like that then don't ask questions that you answer in your own comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:51 AM
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Western birth rates are already below replacement, so that's a pretty stupid position.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:49 AM
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Explain which logic I have missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:47 AM
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I'm not following you around, I don't even look at usernames. I just like answering easy questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:46 AM
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I followed the logic, there just wasn't much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:45 AM
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I don't understand why a man putting in a tremendous amount of effort to get laid by lots of women is somehow an attractive personality trait? It is not an attractive trait in and of itself, but it implies that he has attractive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:42 AM
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Predictable that you're arguing that on every single axis the women should either have an advantage or be equal. Women get to abort the baby against the man's wishes. Men get to opt in. This is a very good trade for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:40 AM
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Women get to abort the baby against the man's wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:38 AM
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Yes, this is a predictable result of feminism + welfare state. It places a premium on physical attractiveness and it makes intelligence and the resulting financials less important. In marxist terms, feminism and socialism is sexual class warfare of the physically attractive against the intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:36 AM
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It should be opt-in not opt-out. A lot of feminism rests on the notion that the default assumption that sex is for making babies is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:34 AM
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I read your post, what made you think that I did not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:29 AM
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I had picked up on it, but it doesn't matter. You can be very weird and ugly and you'd still have attractive men lining up for you. Some straight men actually have sex with gay men because they can't find a dominant woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:28 AM
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It's more than that for Turks. The Turks emigrated from east to west and had a culture similar to the mongols.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:25 AM
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but loved her control the most. Made her feel empowered because she had ultimate control over when it stopped, even if the point was to pretend she didn't. Hamster defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:24 AM
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Why would there be any contradiction between your worldview and your porn habits? You want to be dominated but you realize that most women aren't into that, so you do the rational thing and strive for sexual/social/financial dominance. With feminists it's exactly the opposite. They want to feminize men but secretly desire dominance, so their actions are irrational at least in this respect. There would be a contradiction if you were actively campaigning to make women more submissive, while you se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:17 AM
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Lol, most men typically run and cover their asshole when you mention the idea of pegging. Doesn't matter. What matters is the supply/demand balance. Even if only 10% of men want that, 1% of women want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:12 AM
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The reason they have a problem with it is because they understand hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:09 AM
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They voted for the candidate that didn't call them deplorables. As one Trump supporter put it: "They make fun of Trump like they make fun of me".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:00 AM
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You don't find anything ironic about feminists who complain about how degrading it is if a man holds a door open for her, but want to be choked and peed in their mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:53 AM
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He is actually divorced with kids, so this isn't even a hypothetical for him...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:47 AM
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Why haven't you had sex then? You are literally the dream of millions of straight men, and women like you are in very short supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:40 AM
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That's funny because Turks think that they are Finnish, but are really Mongolians
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:36 AM
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Plenty want a gay male top sexuality out of a hot girl with male interests. Some have been known to compromise on the hot girl part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:35 AM
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How many men did make him skinny or fat? According to the conspiracy theories about BP brainwashing there should be a sizeable portion of those as well Strawman. These "conspiracy theories" don't say that no muscles + fat is attractive, they say that it's not as important as things like "being yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:32 AM
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Both the male version and the female version are unattractive, imo. There's basic aesthetic appeal, sure, but neither is sexy. Because they look like Frankenstein's monsters due to photoshopping different body parts together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:29 AM
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I think they would know that they wouldn't really find him attractive, but many do it anyway because of political correctness. It's the same as "size doesn't matter".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:27 AM
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The ideal is clearly that he is attracted to other women but doesn't act on it because he finds her more irresistible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:22 AM
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Left guy's head is too big compared to his shoulders. I doubt the majority would vote for left guy for that reason. They probably just took survey results about face/torso/legs/arms and then photoshopped both together in one picture without asking whether the final result represents the optimum. There's a reason why they photoshop the head to a smaller size in male celebrity pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:19 AM
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Women don't want a woman in a man's body. There was a lesbian woman who disguised herself as a man and she quickly found out that straight women want a man, not a woman who looks like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:16 AM
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You can find the female choice in erotic novels and the male choice in gay porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:13 AM
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Relationships are a market. If you aren't offering perfection you can't expect perfection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:11 AM
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You'll die alone and childless and you'll probably regret it, while others will be playing with their grandchildren.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:05 AM
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Sex slaves are allowed too. Multiple wives + sex slaves are allowed, so no, real muslims shouldn't be chaste according to the quran. Religions are contradictory, news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:07 PM
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Men are allowed multiple wives, and even temporary wives. Sex slaves too. Many ways to rationalise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 10:33 PM
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Men like to compete, this much is true. Have you not noticed that the things men compete in are usually things that get you women? Sports, $$$, social status. Can I make a guess based on your post? You're a virgin who is a bit unhappy about that, and you've convinced yourself that you're lifting weights for your male friends because it hasn't brought you success with women, and admitting that that's why you're doing it would be a blow to your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 10:03 PM
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Adaptations can and do happen over generations. Yes, many generations. Thanks for proving again that you don't know anything about evolution. It has barely been a generation since the sexual revolution. I'd argue the scales were ALWAYS tipped for attractiveness. Then argue it. And the wealthiest got the best women in the past few hundred years. Not the most intelligent - they have never really had a look in. Guess where wealth comes from. In the middle ages, when times were tough, men wanted the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:59 PM
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You tease when you don't have an actual argument. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. If you troll at least do so in a halfway intelligent way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 09:47 AM
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Goes much further. The exact same behaviour will be viewed as hot by a hot guy and creepy by a creepy guy (= a guy to whom the woman is not attracted).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:30 PM
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Goes much further. The exact same behaviour will be viewed as hot by a hot guy and creepy by a creepy guy (= a guy to whom the woman is not attracted).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:30 PM
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A hot man has to put in a lot of effort to come across as creepy. An unattractive man has to put in a lot of effort not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:28 PM
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A hot man has to put in a lot of effort to come across as creepy. An unattractive man has to put in a lot of effort not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:28 PM
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A hot man has to put in a lot of effort to come across as creepy. An unattractive man has to put in a lot of effort not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:28 PM
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A hot man has to put in a lot of effort to come across as creepy. An unattractive man has to put in a lot of effort not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:28 PM
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You clearly do not understand how evolution or biology works. Our biology does not suddenly change because circumstances change. Evolution happens in millions of years because some individuals survive and reproduce more successfully than others. Women are more selective because sex is potentially far more costly for a woman than for a man. A man burns a handful of calories and ejaculates a few grams of protein. A woman is will spend a tremendous amount of calories for 9 months. Women who were no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:00 PM
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Sexual attraction to physically powerful males is not wrong, it just is. It's not something that's going to change either. In wrestling the smaller guy does not win against the big guy except in exceptional cases. That's why there are size classes. Unless you're talking about pro wrestling, which I hope you realise is play acting not real wrestling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:56 PM
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Most people do. By the way, the fact that your comments here are being upvoted despite their content shows how little weight is placed on rational argument on this subreddit. Your comments are full of ad-hominems and other logical fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:51 PM
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What is evil? Complete sexual freedom will make people more miserable on balance, so if you're an utilitarian it is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:33 PM
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The church already did that, but you can't unscramble an egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:31 PM
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You can't eliminate biology. If you have to evaluate which of two men is more sexually attractive you could do worse than imagining who'd win a fight and declaring that this is the more sexually attractive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:30 PM
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You want to eliminate no fault divorce, so does no longer being sexually attracted count as a fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:28 PM
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He already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:25 PM
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Have kids in college. This would solve most of the world's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:23 PM
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Might wanna look at how gay men behave, who are sorta-kinda in that situation. Also compare with lesbians to tease out the genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:21 PM
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Yes, but still not as selective as women in the same situation for obvious evolutionary reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:20 PM
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Harems still exist, but in the modern world sexual attractiveness is the key, not financial success. Technological development, socialism, and feminism have caused this change.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:12 PM
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The balls are still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:11 PM
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Most women (if they want a child) prefer to have the child of the man that they are with. Yes, rationally. Millions of years of evolution have found a solution to the rational mind blocking evolutionary succes: horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 11:08 PM
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How did I take away agency from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 06:56 PM
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Yeah, and saying that cocaine culture would be bad is also taking away agency from people. After all, humans are perfectly rational and all knowing creatures who foresee all consequences and are not susceptible to putting short term benefits ahead of long term benefits despite a campaign of indoctrination to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:38 AM
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I don't see how avoiding men who are only in it for sex could be that hard Desperation plus the desire to believe that the relationship can work. I know a woman who got the baby fevers and was trying to catch men with speed dates. She dated a man in his late 50s who already had kids out of the house. She only realised that he didn't want to build a second family after he pushed her out of the house after having had sex with her because his son was coming home and he didn't want his son to see he…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:24 PM
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Depends. "Where have all the good men gone?". The answer is tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:21 PM
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Why would hookup culture benefit low quality women? I don't think that's the case at all. It hurts them because it gives them over inflated expectations which results in misery and failed marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:17 PM
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Men also want an intelligent woman. Don't want dumb kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:14 PM
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Wasn't there a show where they put the women and men on separate islands to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:49 AM
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Does this really come as a surprise to anyone? I mean, women go to the friggin' toilet together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:46 AM
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No, if you use protection you don't tan.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:41 AM
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That's not what I'm talking about. Wrestling is an Olympic sport. It's not fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 09:39 AM
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You did not present any science, you showed some stats about couples staying married if they have less partners. We've already been over this. Repeating this lie just makes you look bad. My mother hated being a SAHM. N=1, and you don't even know whether a woman would have been happier as a fleshlight with a career. (probably a bitter MGTOW?) Wrong again. Also, lmaooooo at being forced to perform sexual acts. It's called rape. It's called, the cops are going to take Chad to jail. Only in your twi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:47 PM
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The thieves will have to pay you back the money you paid them. Of course you have to take action to actually get your money if you want it. So what? Analogy holds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:32 PM
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Billy Bob does not give you a lifetime of happiness Science says otherwise. and most of the friends I have who did go on Tinder for years, now have Billy Bob anyway. Exactly. The kids are grown-up, they left home, they are trapped with nothing to do, completely invisible, and completely dependent on husbands they would rather divorce but cannot because they depend on them financially. As opposed to the women who barely managed to pop out a barely healthy kid at age 40, or no kid at all, who now …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:29 PM
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On the contrary, we've made a lot of progress: Misunderstanding. Denial. Frustration. Cognitive dissonance. Retreat. <-- we are here Capitulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:21 PM
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Nope, wrestling is different because it establishes a physical dominance relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:15 PM
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That is incorrect. Even if you don't know she is a trafficking victim, she is still being hurt. Even if you don't know the goods are stolen, the people who the goods were stolen from are still being hurt. Goods get stolen in the first place because the thieves are able to sell them. It's not rocket science. Maybe this analogy is easier for you: let's make hiring people as a hairdresser illegal because they might be a human trafficking victim. I'm not sure there's any other way I can say this to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:11 PM
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Well then, why don't we just never taste chocolate because too much chocolate is bad for us? Why do we watch television and not play Sudoku instead, if it is good for our brains? If there was scientific research showing that people who have not tasted chocolate lead far more happy and satisfied lives, I would indeed skip the chocolate. That is because we only live once, and life is partly made of pleasure. Billy Bob is not worth forsaking pleasure for, because in a world in which women support t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 08:06 PM
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Lack of a purpose or chasing meaningless purposes as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:59 PM
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I'm not arguing that prostitution should be illegal, I'm arguing that you've crafted a shitty analogy because you don't seem to understand why stolen cars are such a poor stand in for human trafficking victims. You have yet to form a single argument for this claim. What you've accomplished thus far is misunderstanding the analogy repeatedly. Let's hear your argument. Using the services of a trafficking victim is bad because it hurts the victim. Yes, if you know that she is a human trafficking vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:55 PM
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Nope. Before/after feminism. The world got a lot richer since then, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:53 PM
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Buying a stolen good is punished when you know that it's stolen. Of course going to a prostitute should be illegal if you know that she is a human trafficking victim. You generally have recourse of some sort if you get your car stolen, usually because we have things like insurance. That's why it's called an analogy. It's not supposed to be 100% identical. For the purposes of the argument, the analogy applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:53 PM
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Cars don't need protection the way human beings do. Stealing a car is not bad because it hurts the car, it's bad because it hurts the owner of the car. If you need more help with understanding analogies, do ask. Do you see the difference? You've yet to argue that all prostitution should be illegal. Let's hear the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:26 PM
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End result is the same: misery. Even if cocaine did not destroy the brain it would still be addictive and make people unhappy because they would no longer be satisfied with an average mental state (this is actually a huge part of addiction), just like women are no longer satisfied with Bob. Casual sex, not even once.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:17 PM
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That doesn't make sense though. That's the point. The reason prositution is illegal in relation to human trafficking is because johns can't always tell the difference between willing sex workers and trafficking victims. Can't tell stolen goods either. But who are the car thiefs? The pimps/kidnappers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:16 PM
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Cocaine makes you happy short term unhappy long term. I've just given you research that shows that casual sex does the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 04:04 PM
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And those who never had cocaine are not satisfied. They just pretend to live in ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:58 PM
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Depends on what you compare it to. Computer programming doesn't have the stigma that it used to have. Men are also more attracted to thing oriented occupations, women more to people oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:57 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 03:18 PM
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Women are not more unhappy because they have least satisfying sex, but because they have too many responsibilities. Big difference. So that's why women with more sexual partners have a much higher divorce rate and are unhappier? LOL The studies you have shown merely say people who have had less partners are less likely to break up. False. Read the actual studies. This is too easy, and therefore boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:43 PM
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Trolls and feminists, just like satire and gender studies papers, are indistinguishable these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:38 PM
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I see, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:31 PM
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Are you going to quote that old, tired study which shows women getting more unhappy and specifies they are struggling to cope with all the responsibilities of childcare, housecare and career? That's what you base your 'women are dissatisfied' assumption on? This is nothing but rhetoric. Feminism, which fought for this, has resulted in women being less happy than in the old patriarchy. Good job! Secondly, men work more even if you include childcare and housecare. Also, what exactly makes you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:25 PM
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Current Tinder hookup culture is entirely different than it was 50 years ago. It's much more of a meat market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:16 PM
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Your claim is a tautology unless you define what you mean by fiscal and biological gender roles. Many of the examples of fiscal gender roles have strong roots in biology, but after we have convinced you of that we'd have made no progress on your CMV because then you'd put those in the biological gender roles bin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:08 PM
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Women have been getting unhappier for decades, and women who married there first sexual partner are more sexually satisfied. So yes, women now have the opportunity to hook up with Joe sixpack, but it's making women more miserable in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 02:01 PM
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Stay at home moms are happier. Sex work isn't rooted in misogyny lol, it's rooted in the sexual desire of one person and financial desire of the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:52 PM
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That's called not tanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:47 PM
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You misspelled correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 01:46 PM
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Vitamin D deficiency is only a problem in the winter anyway. Sun accelerates aging enormously. Take a look at this picture of a truck driver and guess which side the window is on: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/634768/thumbs/o-BILL-MCELLIGOTT-SUN-DAMAGE-570.jpg?4 I agree that you don't need to be paranoid about it, but the way many people tan is not smart. By the way, there is no proper way to tan. Tanning is the body's response to damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:46 AM
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That's a secondary concern, and getting a tan destroys your long term attractiveness because it greatly accelerates aging.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:26 AM
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Definitely. Imagine if several physicists got completely destroyed by a psychologist in a debate about physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 07:25 AM
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Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:39 PM
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There are way more men who like to be hit by a woman than men who like to hit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:38 PM
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He definitely doesn't. He is bad at picking clothes too. A shirtless nature pic would work better for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:26 PM
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Running helps you eat less because running with a full stomach sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:22 PM
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Keto only causes brain fog for 1-2 days. Lifting will definitely suffer tho, but it will suffer on any calorie deficit diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:21 PM
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If the main in the ironed shirt is fat he loses. If the man with the 6 pack does not actively try to look bad he will win regardless of clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:16 PM
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Women actually believe it when they say that. The effect would be even more pronounced in person. I wonder why there is such a difference in what women say they like and what they actually like, and why this is not the case for gays.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:14 PM
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You ought to have an argument that makes at least a little bit of sense if you're going to call somebody retarded if you want to avoid making that word more applicable to yourself than to the person you're talking about. He is opposed to being forced by the government to call a specific person "they". Plural or general "they" is common english and he is not in any way opposed to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 08:00 PM
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His ideas about epistemology and archetypes sound like gibberish to me, but on other topics he makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 07:56 PM
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Attempting to stamp out inborn gendered behaviours, what could possibly go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 07:54 PM
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Actually his opponents have degrees in gender studies and he does not, so he should be at a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 07:50 PM
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Thank you for contributing your lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:18 AM
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Yea, feminism, unlike MGTOW, would never stray from its stated goal and devolve into misandry, and of course we have to assume that all misandry coming from feminism was meant to be directed at men who deserve the misandry. MGTOW is of course toxic filth, and their bitching about women is horrendous, and to assume that this misogyny is deserved would make you literally Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:07 AM
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You edited out the question xD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:01 AM
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And how so? I will give you one example to help you out. You said that the kind of man you find on redpill/mgtow/incel is toxic filth. So I said that the kind of woman you find on bluepill/srs/feminism is toxic filth to bait you into arguing against yourself. Then you bite: Anyone who thinks a woman is toxic filth because she wants to provide for and take care of herself should forcibly be removed from all contact with women, for the woman's own safety. Presumably you're talking about feminism h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:54 AM
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I'm still waiting for an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:44 AM
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It's kind of beautiful in a way that you don't even realise that you stepped right into a rather obvious trap and ended up arguing against your own claims. I wouldn't want to ruin that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:28 AM
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You're scraping the bottom of the barrel of arguments there. If you're doing performance art I give it A+.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:09 AM
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Nothing but facts and common sense = fear mongering. OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:06 AM
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She died before those subs existed. Would you also assume without evidence that somebody who makes misogynistic statements is talking about the kind of woman you find on bluepill/srs/feminism subs? That woman is toxic filth all right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:54 AM
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I do not think physical hotness -- the narrow way it's described on this sub, aka 6'0" +, muscular, perfect face -- is necessary to "activate" sexual attraction. When you have to build such giant strawmans that it proves the opposite of what you're trying to prove...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:48 AM
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No, I think it's a good thing that men are expected to be providers. The trouble with feminism is that it changed this in one direction. Women get all the sexual freedom, careers, reproductive rights, divorce advantages, and child support, but men are by and large still expected to be the providers. Arguably it even got worse, because women are earning more yet they still want a man who earns even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:17 AM
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It's terrible for society, both short term and long term. Women are more unhappy than ever, unstable families are bad for children, men's drive to provide fuels the economy. Long term this will select for the kind of genes that do not make for a good society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 12:46 AM
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It's not men, it's feminism that brought this on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 12:50 PM
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Many women like men who are jerks to other men as a sign of dominance. Many women also like men who treat women normally, which is sometimes seen as being a jerk but in reality is nothing different than how they treat other people. It's just non-pedestalisation; teasing, joking, not going out of their way to be nice. It's the opposite of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:24 PM
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It's a market. You don't have to live up to the ultimate male, you just have to be better than the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 12:10 PM
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I like your username. Joke accidentally contains a kernel of truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 11:55 AM
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The moment SRS celebrates your spiritual growth it's time to check into a mental hospital.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 10:28 AM
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Make sandwiches. How far back do you want to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjQs_QjSwc&feature=youtu.be&t=6541
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:56 PM
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Gay marriages have a 15% divorce rate while lesbian marriages have a 30% divorce rate (straight marriages 18% -- hi evangelicals)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:47 PM
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So only Julian? ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:45 PM
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Maybe if you're talking about this subreddit, but in the real world men project too little. There is still a traditionalist image out there that women don't like sex nearly as much as men do, and that their preferences are infinitely complex and varied so you just have to wait for the one true love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 06:48 PM
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Yes, that happens, but those kind of relationships turn into dead bedrooms very quickly. I'd say that they weren't really relationships to begin with; they're basically live-in friendships, and it's part of the reason why lesbian relationships are the least stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 06:43 PM
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Maybe that's the case in a liberal bubble, but the stats don't bear that out. http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/04/are-lesbians-more-accepted-by-society-than-gay-men/ Even as society has become more accepting of homosexuality overall, longstanding research has shown more societal tolerance for lesbians than gay men, and that gay men are significantly more likely to be targets of violence. That research also has found that it’s often straight men who have the most difficult time with homosexuality …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:51 PM
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Because feminism addressed all the disadvantages of being a woman without addressing the disadvantages of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:34 PM
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Most people also don't seem to be aware that you don't tan if you put on sunscreen. Tanning is a protection mechanism that gets triggered by skin damage. You can't have one without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:32 PM
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Because they only care about the short term and rationalise away the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:30 PM
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It's not a bad example because there are plenty of things that are almost universally agreed to taste good (pizza) and almost universally agreed to taste bad (shit). Just like with food there are different tastes, but it's far from arbitrary. Popular culture pretends that there is a predestined "the one" for everyone. Reality is there aren't many people who like shit. Secondly, within a food category like pizza there is broad agreement about what is a good pizza and what is a bad pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:23 PM
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There are two reasons for ugly lesbian couples: Both are ugly and settled for each other. At least one of them is attracted to masculinity despite being a lesbian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:16 PM
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Who disagrees with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:14 PM
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It's implicitly seen as weak and bad. Feminists want women to be like men instead of celebrating femininity. Single and careerist is good, housewife is bad, dominant in the bed is good, submissive is bad, sleeping around is good, monogamy is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:00 PM
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Don't worry, reading an idea somewhere and liking it can cause a person to become convinced that they came up with the idea. It's how the human brain works and it happens to the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 11:52 AM
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I know that you aren't a feminist, but that doesn't mean that their demonisation of femininity doesn't have an effect! Why do you feel guilty about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 11:49 AM
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Exactly, a belief in upholding western values is by necessity anti-collectivist because one of the most important elements of western culture is individualism. SJW's are collectivist. They may think they are upholding western values but they are doing the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:12 AM
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Yes it is the female equivalent of porn. Why do you feel guilty about it? Is it because you like erotica in which the woman isn't as strong and independent as feminists want you to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:09 AM
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Not just violence. Almost everything in the world was invented and built by men, including the computer you're reading this comment on and the building you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 10:02 AM
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This depends on the age. If you're 21, sure. If she's hitting the wall and feeling baby tingles, hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:58 AM
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If you want to know that you can read my comments in this thread. I don't have the stamina to repeat it all again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:43 AM
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Everyone? The introduction on TRP mentions "sexual marketplace" in the first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 09:42 AM
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You aren't being coherent. Make up your mind about what your position is! In your previous comment you say: i fail to see how this counts as evidence that women care less about penis size after a certain amount. But now that is exactly what you're arguing for: The basic premise is that as long as you are at least within in her ideal range (5.5 or more ) it doesn't matter if he's got a 5.5 inch dick, a 6 inch dick, or a 7 inch dick. All would be just fine for her. Lastly, Please could you explain…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:44 PM
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The idea that there is a sexual marketplace that operates on supply and demand like an economy is at the center of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:38 PM
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Shouldn't you change your flair to red if you are now asking people to convince you that RP ideas are not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 11:35 AM
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Your first sentence contradicts the rest of your comment. I also didn't say that women prefer the largest penis, just larger than average. Do you have any arguments or data yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 11:32 AM
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For example: https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2840055.main_image.jpg?strip=all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:24 PM
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(it's a joke you refer to it as a honors thesis, lmao) I know that, but that's how she referred to it. That's why I put it in quotes, lmao I'd say the same goes with women. As long as your penis meets her minimum threshold for penis size, she's not automatically gonna think a guy who has another inch is better just because. So there is a magic threshold for her minimum size, and below that it's rejection, and above that it's completely irrelevant how big it is. lmao It seems like you're not look…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 09:17 PM
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I agree that for a long term relationship it is a minor issue compared to everything else, but any other specific issue is also a minor issue compared to everything else. If we focus on one night stands and on physical attractiveness only, then we roughly have the following four characteristics: Face Height Fitness Dick Different people will put different weight on these attributes. The girl who wrote this "honours thesis" clearly finds #4 very important compared to the others. I'd say that on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:03 PM
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I didn't add on this other context of "willing to date" or "perfectly indifferent." You did that. Yes I did. That is the point. Then you quoted it out of context with Aha! You agree with me! I said most women won't really care. As in, genuinely don't care. They aren't going to be secretly wishing you were bigger or dating you DESPITE this one little flaw. They genuinely don't care. I know you said that, but it's wrong. It not about "secretly wishing you were bigger". The question is if you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:06 PM
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Well, the original statements were a little different, but yes, they pretty much mean the same, which is, "women don't really care as long as you're not below average." I don't know what to say then, because in my world there is a big difference between still being willing to date somebody who has a certain characteristic and being entirely indifferent to that characteristic. I can give the same example again: you may date somebody with an average face, but that does not mean that you are indiff…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:58 PM
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This leads to my next point. These girls want to approached but at the same time don't want to be approached. The solution to this paradox is very simple. They don't want to be approached by unattractive men. The venue excuses are just their way of rejecting unattractive men and teaching them not to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:34 PM
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Do these two statements "mean virtually the SAME" to you: just don't have a below average dick and most women will still date you as long as your dick is above average most women will be entirely indifferent to its size In that case, sigh. and you're the one that started making this a "petty linguistic debate" because you're the one who complained about it in the first place. Complained about what? I complained about you turning it in a petty linguistic debate. In no way does that mean that I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:25 PM
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I would agree that that statement is equivalent in concept to the statement "just don't have a below average face and most women won't care." Again, the latter statement can be interpreted in different lights. It can go from "just don't have a below average dick and most women will still date you" to "as long as your dick is above average most women will be entirely indifferent to its size". Which is what I already explained before you steered the discussion to a petty linguistic debate: "That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:59 PM
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Sigh. Of course there is. Would you agree with the statement "Face only matters for most women if you're below average."? Anyway, it doesn't seem like we actually disagree about the facts. Penis size matters, bigger is better up to a point where it becomes impractical, and even then bigger may be arousing though rationally undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:18 PM
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Do you really want me to spell out the difference between "Size only matters for most women if you're below average." and "Just don't be below average and most women won't care." as in "Just don't have a below average face and most women won't care"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:58 PM
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Men are partially responsible, but with more power comes more responsibility, and women wield most of the power in this context. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:34 PM
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I know you can do better than this... Then why are you arguing with me? You said this statement was "just nonsense": Because the sentence before that made the comment nonsense: Size only matters for most women if you're below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:30 PM
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Women's choices give men an incentive to change their behaviour. That is exactly what TRP is. TRP is the way it is because that is what women reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:23 PM
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That's not the same. Not caring about a huge dick =/= liking small dicks. Sure, I wrote it that way to be extra favourable to your point. If she actively likes small dicks then there would be less of a reason for the guy to feel insecure than if she was merely content with a small dick. My point is that the guy may still feel insecure in that situation because it may be hard for him to tell how close to the truth that is. because yes that hurts and makes certain sex acts off the table Right, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:16 PM
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It's not nonsense but please continue to tell yourself that what WOMEN think about dick size is irrelevant. How did you conclude that my position is that what women think about dick size is irrelevant? It's the exact opposite. Because, as I said, as long as you're average or slightly above, you're good. Just don't be below average and most women won't care. That's like saying if you have an above average face you're good, just don't be below average and most women won't care. Yes, it's good enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 04:09 PM
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If he knows that she is genuinely part of the minority who likes small dicks that is a different story, but it would be difficult to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:55 PM
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Because he knows that she is lying for him, even if she managed to make herself kinda believe it in theory because 1) she feels bad for him if she were honest about her desires 2) it avoids having to admit to having settled a sub-optimal mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:47 PM
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That's just nonsense. There is no magic combination of attractive features that makes dick size irrelevant, as there is no dick size that makes your face irrelevant. It's always a combination, and a big dick is an advantage regardless of other features. Given two otherwise identical men the one with the bigger dick is more attractive for almost all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:38 PM
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So a rational logical inference is sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 03:31 PM
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Yay, oppression olympics!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:03 AM
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LGBT is fucked either way, because the left loves islam. Jews are fucked either way as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:59 PM
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The problem with understanding alone is that too many masculine minds - especially angry masculine minds fighting in a culture war - see empathy as weakness. It's an opportunity to be exploited, and it won't be returned. I wonder where they got that idea from ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:57 PM
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University admission is also biased against Asians.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:53 PM
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Saying that group X is privileged isn't racist/sexist, but it could be correct or incorrect. It is racist/sexist when you say that a specific person must be privileged because they are in group X.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:49 PM
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The research does substantiate OP's point, for example: When looking at pictures of immoral acts, women's judgments of severity correlate with higher levels of activation in emotion centers of the brain, suggesting concern for victims, whereas men show higher activation in areas that might involve the deployment of principles (Carla Harenski and collaborators). Women are more likely to factor personal cost into decisions about whether to punish an unfair stranger, which suggests that women are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:35 PM
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Yes it's funny how offended some of them get if you return the favour, even if you insult them in a much more gentlemanly way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 11:31 PM
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TIL principles = post-hoc rationalisation of dislike of sexually unsuccessful men. Seriously, reread this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 07:14 PM
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Good example of the OP's point xD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:44 PM
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We must have read a different post because as I read it that was the whole point of the post. What do you think is reflective of the whole post?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:35 PM
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Does it seem crazy to you? It seems entirely reasonable to me. In fact I'd say men do it too. They are much more likely to accept bad behaviour from attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:33 PM
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The paragraph I cited is clear enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:32 PM
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That's an argument you should have with the OP. The psychological tests align almost ridiculously perfectly with the hypothesis based on the large-scale brain imaging. Women can be more empathetic, when their intuitive emotions ( Very often, by instinctive reaction, which themselves would date to the human evolutionary past that shaped them ) conform to it, whereas men will treat morality much more analytically based on rigid principles that do not fluctuate too much according to emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:12 PM
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That's a property of the normal distribution. If the means of two groups differ only a little bit then at a couple of standard deviations out you'll have only members of one group. Example: the mean height of men and women may differ only by 5 inches, but almost all people over 6'6 are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:06 PM
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Not All (tm)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:55 PM
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Sure, but there is a difference between deciding morality based on whatever you feel about the situation at hand at any given moment, and starting with a few principles and reasoning from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 06:45 PM
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Clearly when somebody says 'the next generation is a disaster' they aren't concerned about their personal financial success, so why would having a degree stop them from saying that? I think the 'western civilisation is collapsing' and Trump are more about the islam and sjw thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:05 AM
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That depends completely on which group of men you're talking about. Different groups have different problems. Working class men have a big problem with job prospects due to globalisation, for example, but men with a university education most likely benefit from globalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:48 PM
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Why would it be too late? You can literally mouth swab the baby. Because at that point you've allowed your name to be on the birth certificate. If you are married to the mother and told other people that you're the father then you're on the hook too. It's a rebuttable presumption. Very difficult and expensive. Edit: I've only heard of it being illegal in France. That's one country. Don't move to France, problem solved. Your advice is also illegal in Germany. That's the two biggest countries in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:38 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:54 PM
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So men have evolved to just not being able to cope with it more than women? Yes. Women don't have parental uncertainty while men do. Since the amount of time and effort invested in children is usually gigantic, men evolved this psychology to try to invest only in their true children. Or said differently: the men without this psychology did not successfully pass on their genes. By the way, the grandparents on the side of the mother are known to be more invested in the grandchildren than the grand…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 10:40 PM
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That was fast. I ninja edited while you were responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:07 PM
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Evolution doesn't know about DNA tests, so that very powerful psychology is still there. There's also a big stigma on asking for one, and with modern laws you may be fucked regardless of whether the child is genetically yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 09:01 PM
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So a study shows that women like men with proud/powerful/moody facial expressions (which falls squarely within TRP predictions), and then you extrapolate that to a situation where the man is "moody" to the point of losing his entire social circle, and then claim that a realistic option for getting out of the ForeverAlone social isolation is finding a unicorn to have sex with. lol! I love when ignorance laughs. It's the kind of slip on a banana peel and suffer a concussion moment that announces t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 08:55 PM
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lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:22 PM
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What is a blue crew cut? A hairstyle? Yellow teeth can be fixed easily. Buck teeth can be fixed too, but less easily. The lazy eye can't be fixed but isn't that bad unless it's extreme. All these things apply to men too. I'm a man and don't have a blue crew cut and had my teeth straightened out. It's not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:20 PM
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I lost track of my N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:14 PM
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No. A man who is so socially ungifted to be Forever Alone can't use sex to get social interaction unless he looks like a supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:12 PM
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Is that a government source of marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:09 PM
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Men have this to a much greater extent, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:08 PM
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That option is only open to female FA's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:37 AM
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It's worse when women cheat because men have parental uncertainty and women don't. You list other reasons that cheating is bad in the cuckolding section. That is not argument because they apply in reverse too, and there is the additional possibility of cuckolding if the woman cheats. The only thing I can point to which could objectively make the argument that men cheating is “less damaging” than women cheating is the fact that, to my knowledge, women are more likely to forgive men who cheat vers…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:19 AM
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In terms of evolution it makes more sense to find women slightly before their peak fertility more attractive than those slightly after their peak fertility for the same reason that it makes sense to buy fruit that is slightly unripe over fruit that is already over ripe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:52 AM
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Try being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:47 AM
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Being yourself doesn't work for everyone. Putting up a bad boy act works much better for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:26 AM
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From opposition to denial to "it's common sense". Damn, that was fast this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:22 AM
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They aren't parasites. It's the very opposite: they act like servants to women. Their problem is that women aren't aroused by that. They're aroused by the misogynistic asshole, as you pointed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:14 AM
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Christopher Hitchens Predicts Victimhood Culture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:56 AM
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I find colourful tattoos ugly on either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:20 PM
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"Don't marry, don't commit to a slut, lift, maintain frame" = virtue signaling. That's not virtue signalling. It is something, but virtue signalling is not the right word for it. Maybe call it mindlessly repeating dogma. Virtue signalling does exist on the other side. Hinting at how often you go to church. Being outraged about mishandling the american flag. Calling people communists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 01:13 AM
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The most obnoxious virtue signalling was the famous people who said they would take refugees into their house, but who predictably didn't follow through.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 01:03 AM
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Has she?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:39 AM
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I was just providing some additional info that people may find interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 03:39 PM
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In Denmark the government did an ad campaign to encourage people to have children. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:45 AM
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Because in identity politics your worth as a person is based on characteristics like your gender and how fat you are. More oppressed = your opinions are more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:08 AM
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Great analysis!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 10:02 PM
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Not really if she gets pregnant from one guy she can't simultaneously get pregnant from another guy. The man on the other hand can just jerk off once and impregnate a million women. Even if all men on earth except one decide to be childless, that one man's sperm can still impregnate all women. If all women on earth except one decide to be childless, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:58 PM
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Yes, that's why identity politics sucks so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 09:31 PM
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Easy, don't let the feminists convince you to hate your own natural desires. Drawing the line is simple: It should be consensual Equal opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 08:10 PM
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As a percentage of his wealth I'm sure that Trump spends less on his women than the average man does. It is simply a very good deal for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 08:08 PM
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If you weren't tall your chances of success would be even lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 08:07 PM
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Lol that was glorious. Asserting your intellectual superiority because you read facebook xD
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:24 PM
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Damn, I didn't think I would ever agree with you that much. By the way, women talk that way about men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:30 PM
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I do that most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:16 PM
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Well, that's another thing that you are wrong about then. I enjoy debate, but if that's not available I'll settle for some shitposting =)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:14 PM
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You always post these threads but are unable to engage in debate, and just end up claiming over and over and over again that people don't understand you, without addressing the content of their argument whatsoever. At some point you must surely realise that if you are unable to form a counterargument that maybe your position is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:07 PM
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The idea is more or less correct, but you are not counting the effects of testosterone which makes men have a stronger urge to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:55 PM
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Didn't you get the memo from Clinton? Women are the true victims of war.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:48 PM
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Good flair!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:45 PM
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Trump is clearly the most pro-LGBT republican candidate in history. The extent to which liberals have their panties in a bunch over his stance on LGBT compared to how much they would have their panties in a bunch over one of the other republicans makes no logical sense. Sure, Trump is willing to cater to the conservatives, but most of the other candidates literally are those conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:41 PM
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"Unless someone is literally treeman deformed, they could be successful with women." You constantly show a lack of ability to think quantitatively. Yes, they could be, but what are their chances and what does it take compared to somebody who has good genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:28 PM
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This is so far removed from reality that I don't even know where to begin. The difference that genetics make between an attractive person and an unattractive one is massive. Yes, it still takes work, but given equal work you end up with a completely different outcome. This doesn't just apply to height. It also applies to body shape, facial features, ability to develop muscles, even intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 04:22 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:43 PM
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Just answering the title "What kind of men do feminists date?" with a little bit of actual evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:43 PM
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a b c d e f g h
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 03:03 AM
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DNA can be tested with a mouth swab, so no. A DNA test should be standard anyway to determine heritable diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:15 AM
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Paternity fraud happens about 1 in 25 children, so about one kid per school class.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 02:08 AM
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I don't care about how much sex men (and by extension, women) get. The point I made is that your system simply will not work in practice. It is not a matter of what I want or feel justified in; it's a statement of fact. That seems far less of a burden/hardship then abortion or giving the baby up after birth. Plan B is only effective within 72 hours of sex it is literally a back up and taken before the woman knows she's pregnant so it's not the same. The reasoning you have here can just as easily…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 08:31 PM
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They do, but there are passive ways of turning people on too - blushing and hiding your face is like waving a red flag in front of some people. Even more so, if you're not faking any of it. This doesn't work nearly as well for men as it does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 10:36 AM
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If he majored in a real subject then this guy just needs somebody to kick his ass every day and get him to do shit. Call it guidance if you want. Clearly the problem is not dedication because it takes dedication to get that fit. I bet he is too shy to go out an interview for a job. So somebody needs to kick his ass to do it over and over again until he is successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 10:32 AM
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My system is still unfair to men because women get the final word on whether the baby gets born or not. Women get that major boon because the baby is physically in her body, and in return, yes, they also get to deal with the comparatively minor inconvenience of having to physically undergo the abortion or take the morning after pill because the baby is physically in her body. (If you doubt that this is a major right, think of a situation where the woman is X months pregnant, and in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 09:56 AM
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Fair enough, but the title said that "women find care and compassion unattractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:03 PM
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Really? I have very patiently explained this to you in many different comments now. No you haven't. You simply responded "No that's not equivalent.". Yes that's exactly what it does if the default is for him to be "opted out" unless he opts in after the fact. No. You are again equivocating on the meaning of "opt out". By your reasoning a normal abortion is also "opt out", because she has that right after sex already happened without getting permission beforehand. Get your terms straight and we c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:55 PM
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This is nonsense. A man whole plays with a kid is very attractive, particularly if that man is masculine in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:04 PM
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Most men don't like to be in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 09:03 PM
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That's stupid of course, but I've seen it said plenty of times that they even respect women who wait until marriage, so I'm not sure how common that is. Their main concern is to avoid being BB, and delaying sex while giving sex early to others is a sign of BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:44 PM
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Men in general don't really slut shame women, other women do. Men love sluts. They just discount their RMV. But so do Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:40 PM
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No that's not equivalent. So you concede that you have no counter-argument except a reaffirmation of your opinion. Good. No, they don't. Opting out means you have to affirmatively exercise your reproductive rights. Women exercise those through abortion, adoption, or surrender. These are affirmative actions she must take in order to get rid of the parental rights\obligations she has by default once conception takes place. As I already explained, if you apply this criterion to men then a system wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:37 PM
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An equivalent situation would be where a woman would be forced to carry the pregnancy to term and then give the baby to the man unless she got the man to sign a piece of paper that says that she has the right to abort his baby. Arguably carrying a pregnancy for 9 months is even mild compared to paying for 18 years. Women do have an opt out by default. They can decide to end the pregnancy after the fact. They don't have to negotiate before the sex whether or not they will have the right to end th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 08:18 PM
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Why not delete the bad discussion then? Or not delete anything. The notion that the tender souls of the readers need to be protected from reading mean words always seemed a bit strange to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 06:00 PM
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Our psychology wasn't wired for the modern world. Building a hut and tending to a farm works out well for humans. Social media and a stressful sedentary job, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:09 PM
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Studies show that women with a neotenic appearance are judged as more attractive. Sexual selection has literally caused women to look more like children. In men this is less the case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans#Attractive_women.27s_faces So that's one reason why women hit the wall harder, because their attractiveness is more strongly correlated with how youthful they look. Secondly, women's attractiveness is almost entirely based on appearance, whereas for men it also includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:59 PM
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Our psyche isn't suited to the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 02:21 PM
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Some women do approach men, but not many, and the ones that do usually don't want to do all the work. The remaining fraction will be put off by his anxiety, self-esteem issues, and financial status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 02:07 PM
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No, he's hot physically, his face too (but then again I like baby faces). He is just extremely awkward, doesn't have a job, self esteem is through the floor, and doesn't approach women. He would do great if he were gay because he would be seen as cute and others would do the approaching, but this kills his chances with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 02:00 PM
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Easy lay, but I would be a bit worried about STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:56 PM
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Yes, being too young to be looking for a relationship works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:53 PM
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I've heard it said like this: in the past centuries we have seen what masculine tyranny looks like, and in the 21st century we are going to find out what feminine tyranny looks like. The SJWs give us a taster.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:48 PM
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Trump is associated with the working class. He may not be working class himself, but that's how he acts, that's what he was viewed as by his billionaire peers, and that is who his supporters are. Champagne liberals do not like the working class, and they try not to be associated with it. Although they occasionally pay lip service to them, their new proletariat has become minorities rather than the working class. It is also economically more convenient, because supporting minorities in class warf…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:39 PM
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Yes, she makes sure that the Iranians get to use nuclear weapons more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:31 PM
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In most successful platonic friendships between men and women I've seen, one of the following applies: One or both are homosexual. Both are in a relationship. The man is significantly more attractive than the woman, and therefore not sexually interested in her. The problem with the ForeverAlone types is that they are the precise opposite: desperate, therefore unable to be platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:26 PM
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You're just proving the point here ;-) 24 is really young. If you'd waited until 35, would your husband have waited and married you? I doubt it. There are more men who would ONS a particular woman than marry her, that doesn't mean they are necessarily more attractive than the one who marries her. Nobody is saying that. They aren't necessarily more attractive, but the ones she has access to for ONS are very likely more attractive. This is simply because there are very attractive men who are open …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 11:14 AM
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Nothing you say her contradicts what I said in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 10:42 AM
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Yes, but nobody has a peak after 35 unless they were extremely overweight and didn't take care of themselves, and then fixed that after 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:55 AM
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That's not exactly what the wall means. The wall is when she realises that her SMV/RMV isn't as high as she thought / as high as it used to be. You could come up with a different word for this concept. From TRP glossary: The Wall - The point in a woman's life where her ego and self-assessed view of her sexual market value exceed her actual sexual market value; the beginning of the decline. Usually occurs as a wake-up shock to women when they realize that their power over men was temporary and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:52 AM
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Clearly as a woman you have a superior insight into the motivations of men, so I'll concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:51 AM
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Firstly, what age did you start a relationship with the guy you married? Secondly, the point isn't that you can't find a guy that you are attracted to, but that the guys who are willing to have ONS with you are more attractive than the guys who are willing to marry you. This is simply a result of the fact that men are willing to have a ONS with a partner who is less attractive than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:49 AM
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TRP fantasy. Women can have sex with men they are attracted to Long after the theoretical wall. They can likely LTR and marry them too. Only to the extent that they are willing to lower their standards. Yeah, no, I just don't believe this is at all realistic. Ok, case closed then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:44 AM
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Bluepillers seem to have a desperate need to believe that, but it's bullshit. I'm not even attracted to women in the first place. I do talk to women in their late 30s who regret not having settled down earlier when there were still "good men available" (their words).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:42 AM
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It's not entirely gradual, because it's the moment when she wants to settle down and notices that the men who want to settle down with her are a lot less attractive than the men who will have sex with her or be her boyfriend for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:47 PM
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It's not the wall it's a wall. The wall we talk about the most is the one where a woman comes crashing in to the realization that she was never empowered by giving herself away for free. It's not the end for her. I'd say it's a catalyst for change, if anything. No, that's not what the wall is. The wall is the moment when: She is at the age where she realises that the baby clock is ticking, and thus wants to settle down. Her attractiveness has declined to the point where the hot men no longer eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:42 PM
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It's not the peak. The peak is at 20 or something, not 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:35 PM
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BP needs to take every statement to a ridiculous extreme to even have a chance to win an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:24 PM
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You can say that about any attribute. It's a platitude without content.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:23 PM
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It is, and it some countries it's even illegal for the presumed father to do a DNA test of the child he is paying for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:17 PM
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The abortion would happen far less often than signing the waiver, because not all sex leads to pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:45 PM
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That's called marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:42 PM
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I would pay for it if I had to, just like music/movies/newspapers and other entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:37 PM
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Indeed, the Edward Cullen type. I don't think we're going to come to a conclusion until we invent the technology to turn you into an ugly guy for a day. Until then this video may be interesting, particularly the bit about dating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU&feature=youtu.be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:33 PM
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Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 04:25 PM
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Nope, wouldn't dare to make too much eye contact. Meanwhile a hot guy could stare, and he would be considered "mysterious" or "intriguing" or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:02 AM
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Not All (tm).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:54 AM
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Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:49 AM
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Our experience is completely different then. I've seen guys get called creepy who did not even make any advances, just because the guy was ugly and socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:47 AM
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Because this strategy actually worked in ancient times when the value of resources like food and shelter was extremely high. Getting pregnant without a devoted man to support you could easily be a death sentence because you need a lot more calories yet when you're 8 months pregnant it's a lot harder to get them. In fact I'd say that the same strategy worked to a considerable extent until women joined the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:39 AM
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Indeed, you seem to grasp this concept at least to some extent, but you don't seem to understand why people make this point. When a woman says "that guy is creepy" that is not just a judgement on the behaviour of the guy, but much more so on whether or not she finds him attractive. The statement "that guy is creepy" is in most cases equivalent to "that guy approached me and I find him ugly" or even "that guy should have known that he is too ugly for me". It is not at all limited to continuous ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:32 AM
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That whether or not a behaviour is creepy is determined by whether the woman is attracted to the man rather than the behaviour itself is the whole point that people are trying to make when they say that hot guys aren't creepy. Taking it to an extreme like there is no conceivable combination of hot guy + woman + circumstances in which the guy is considered creepy by the woman is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:22 AM
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Men know it too, but it's the men who have to approach, so the unattractive men are doubly fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:04 AM
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I support it. Good excuse to be lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:01 AM
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Most men are happy if their wife is only getting a little bit fatter each year.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:58 PM
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Here are two: Most men don't suddenly become filthy rich Most divorces are initiated by women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:56 PM
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Sometimes the tall guy who shows interest is what makes the relationship go bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:41 PM
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This is what I've been trying to tell women: lift. They think they will become hulks, but that doesn't even happen to normal men unless they take steroids. Women have naturally lower levels of testosterone so that is not going to happen. You know what this is? A sixpack under a thin layer of fat. Without the sixpack it wouldn't look nearly as good. The muscular hips too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:30 PM
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Loki fits straight into the dark triad stereotype from TRP. Edward Cullen is the ultimate bad boy turned good by feminine influence, plus he's super powerful physically and rich. These aren't considered attractive particularly because of their looks, but because of the character they represent. If Loki and Cullen played an insignificant or boring character then nobody would care. The Thor guy on the other hand would still draw some attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:23 PM
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Remember when the hilarity of the day was a woman who cut off her husband's penis, and they were laughing about it on a talkshow? Imagine if men on an all-male talkshow were laughing about a man cutting off the breasts of his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 11:13 PM
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TIL the entire media is misandrist. You filthy MRA!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 09:51 PM
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Schwartzenegger is an extreme example, but I'm pretty sure that more women find him attractive than feminine Taemin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 08:02 PM
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Sure, lifting, sports, manual labour, it all works. Lifting is just the least time consuming way of getting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 07:41 PM
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What I find particularly hilarious is women who purposely do not go to the gym because they are afraid it will instantly turn them into hulks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:01 PM
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We are still busy getting rid of the idea that women are cattle and shouldn't vote, and feminists are fighting only those who still want to treat women as cattle and deny them the vote? Whoever upvoted this needs to sterilise themselves immediately for the greater good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 02:46 PM
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Edward Cullen https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/06202010_pattinson_shirtless.jpg?w=544 Taemin http://cdn.koreaboo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/SHIRTLESS-TAEMIN-DANGER-PERFORMANCE-SMTOWN-IN-SHANGHAI-2014-GIF-lee-taemin-37697859-245-363.gif Loki https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d1/63/d2/d163d2cc14e3415f62fef41da515f2d3.jpg Benedict Cumberbatch http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/13/00/372B1A4000000578-3738240-image-m-60_1471043153198.jpg Harry Styles https://i.ytim…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 02:24 PM
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I would join him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 10:08 PM
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Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:57 PM
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Neck beard and oily hair can make you attractive if below that isn't an ugly ass face. WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 09:39 PM
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Unless you have good features, going from fat to lean won't make you attractive. Unless you have good features, going from weak to muscular won't make you attractive. Etc. Or, to take your original statement: I don't think most unattractive guys can get attractive unless they are fat "I don't think most unattractive guys can get attractive unless they have a neckbeard with long oily puffy hair".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:41 PM
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Yes, so they fall into the same category as being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:24 PM
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Doesn't your title say the opposite of the body of your post? Or was it meant that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:20 PM
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Besides being fat there are be other solvable problems that are just as bad. Fat -> lean Weak -> muscular Bad skin (acne) -> good skin Neckbeard + long oily puffy hair -> shaved or stubble + short hair washed with conditioner Crooked posture -> good posture Bad clothes -> good clothes You can offset an ugly face to some extent with the halo effect. The same face will get rated more attractive if everything else is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:07 PM
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You raped me. Your turn!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 01:38 PM
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For me this is not true. I've been attracted to people because of their intelligence (STEM nerd types). Though I'm a nerd myself. Why would evolution not make people attracted to intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 08:06 PM
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Not really. Who made more progress on physics: One Einstein The billion lowest intelligence people on the planet Even if Einstein thinks 100x as fast as each low intelligence person individually, those 1 billion people still have 10,000,000x more processing power. In fact it's worse: even within the community of physicists this is true. The progress in science was accomplished by a handful of geniuses. If you killed the 50 best physicists in Einstein's time you would set back physics more than k…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:55 PM
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Yep, it's mostly virtue signalling by doing charity with other people's money. If all the pro-refugee folks had to pay and house the refugees themselves there would be hardly any pro-refugee folks. Instead they get to feel morally superior and bully the people who are actually paying for it because those people are not in favour of unlimited numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:03 PM
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She's like the catholic church. She's leeching money off idiots who have been indoctrinated by the SJW cult to believe that they are guilty because they are white and/or males and can pay off their original sin by giving tithe money to the damsel in distress. Also funny how feminists simultaneously pretend that they are the underdog while getting to speak and the UN, and when it is convenient give the POTUS as an example of a good feminist. Feminists are the ruling elite in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:47 PM
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Nice circlejerk strawman you've got going here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:41 PM
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Sarkeesian is the epitome of complaining about complete non-issues and politicising entertainment while her silence on actual issues is deafening. "Everything is problematic". That's why she gets criticised. I think it's disingenuous to dismiss all the examples I've already provided of high profile feminists. I think the president is much more well known and effective than college professors who are only known in gender war blogs. I didn't dismiss the president, I've addressed Obama's feminist c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:44 AM
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Isn't it more flattering for the handsome guy to think that girls like him for his great personality than for his looks? It's not so much that he thinks that it's easy for anyone (because clearly there are guys who are not having success), but that it's easy for anyone with a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:23 AM
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Ok, I'll take your word for it then. By this criterion Bill Gates is the best feminist though, both in terms of the absolute amount of money donated and the percentage of his wealth donated. I don't think that's what people usually mean by feminism. When I think of good feminists I think about women's suffrage activists, for instance. Those kind of people seem to be mostly insane these days: the gender studies professors, the activist writers, the leaders of big women's activist organisations, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:21 AM
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Ok fair enough. I know that because they say that, and when I even suggest that there are many reasons why e.g. women earn less on average, such as being more likely to choose low paying majors like women's studies and less likely to choose high paying majors like electrical engineering then I am a sexist pig for believing that this has at least something to do with biology instead of patriarchal indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:10 AM
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She's donated large amounts of her own wealth to education programs for young girls in third world countries. What percentage of her own wealth has she donated? nevermind the fact that the UN has acted on FGM since Watson gave her speech. She doesn't get to take credit for things that the UN does just because she gave a speech there. BTW, I did not say that she doesn't care about the third world or that she is terrible for asking men's help. I do think that of the people you listed, Emma Watson …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:02 AM
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I'm honestly confused whether you are honestly confused or just pretending to be confused to mess with me...here is what I said: They believe that because they believe that all/most inequality of outcome is caused by racism/sexism/whateverism, which is nonsense. Which means that I think that it is not the case that all or most inequality is caused by racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:52 AM
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Well, it's her most prominent speech. I am willing to consider the possibility that I only know one side of the story and that she has actually done great work. Can you tell me what you think is her most important or impressive accomplishment with regard to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:48 AM
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If you were actually interested in what I think about inequality's relation to racism then you would ask what I think about it instead of asking "how do you know racism doesn't contribute to income inequality". Now you infer that I don't want to say that racism can cause inequality, again dishonest. I have zero trouble saying that, but you seem to think that you can put words in my mouth and then expect me to just ignore that. These kind of tactics are really common. Funny that you first call in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:45 AM
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BS. I called you out on it once, then you corrected it, and later you went straight back to it. If you think you need the dishonesty that's fine, but then I don't bite =)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:29 AM
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If you want to have a serious discussion, please retract your repeated attempts to put words in my mouth, and stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:24 AM
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They believe that because they believe that all/most inequality of outcome is caused by racism/sexism/whateverism, which is nonsense. Clear enough? If you want to have a serious discussion then please retract this statement and stop setting up strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:20 AM
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If it wasn't virtue signalling then they would address actual issues instead of polishing their halos. Even if you agree with the notion that being polite to brutal patriarchies is more important than helping women because those women happen to be on the other side of a border, in Emma Watson's own country there are an estimated 100,000 cases of female genital mutilation and there have been 0 convictions. If those two numbers were about upper class white women on university campuses getting rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:18 AM
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The question was, how do you know racism doesn't contribute to income inequality. You talked about a number of inequalities and said it because caused by racism/sexism is nonsense. You keep saying this, but I have already explained to you that I didn't say that. If you want to have a serious discussion then please retract this statement and stop setting up strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:10 AM
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It was a statement, not a question. Claiming that I'm not answering it is therefore dishonest. The answer to the question is no. Most inequality is caused by class, upbringing, personal choice, and ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:03 AM
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I think it's legitimately sad that you can't see the obvious fact that most of these people are just virtue signalling. What Obama said about the wage gap is BS and misleading. It's BS because his figures were off, but more importantly it was misleading because most of the wage gap is due to different life choices. Obama also repeated rape statistics coming from a study with misleading and broad questions that included things like having sex after the person lied to you about something or having…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:56 PM
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Ok, thanks for answering to the best of your ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:28 PM
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Those are all people who were already celebrities and took on the feminist label to get some brownie points. Even so, they still say stupid things. Obama repeated wage gap BS, for example. Emma Watson gets to speak in front of the friggin' United Nations and decides to talk about how she was called bossy, and not a word about women's rights in Saudi Arabia where women aren't allowed to do anything without a male guardian or Afghanistan where girls can't go to school. No guts, only looking for ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:20 PM
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Are you denying my lived experience??? Homophobe!!! You said most inequality being caused by racism/sexism is nonsense. Indeed, that is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:06 PM
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We're running in circles here. As I said above: presumably in a secular country at least the god parts would not be legally required. Anyway, such a trivial question and still haven't been able to get a straight answer after a huge comment thread, so I won't waste more time. sigh unnecessary; don't be rude. You already reminded me of my mother, she also has trouble giving straight answers to simple questions. There's no need to reinforce it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 11:02 PM
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Exactly. The sane ones keep silent while the insane ones dominate the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:59 PM
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Sigh. Why say the vows if you don't mean it? (or if you do mean part of it: why say the parts that you don't mean)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:57 PM
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Go up two comments where you answer a different question than the one that I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:34 PM
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You're good at avoiding the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:23 PM
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Surely in a secular country you are not legally required to say that? So my question stands: why say it if you don't mean it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:05 PM
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I didn't say that they said that everything related to marriage is meaningless. I simply asked the question "Why say it [the vows] if you don't mean it?". The person I responded to had the following to say about the vows: "It's just a formal ritual. It's the deaf inertia of tradition.". Then you asked: "who's to say they didn't mean it when they said it". Does "It's just a formal ritual. It's the deaf inertia of tradition." sound like meaning it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:55 PM
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You're assuming that they are telling the truth, which is generally a bad assumption to make. They say that to: Signal that they are not gold diggers. Signal to the husband that he is not BB. Stroke their ego by saying that their SMV is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:32 PM
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So from talking to them, you know they don't care about people. Yes. They even claim to fight for me (I'm gay), but as soon as you question their ideology or "facts" in any way you become literally hitler. They only care about polishing their halo to show off to fellow SJW cultists. Also, how do you know racism and a number of other things don't contribute to income inequality? I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:24 PM
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They believe that because they believe that all/most inequality of outcome is caused by racism/sexism/whateverism, which is nonsense. Actually most SJWs don't really care about the people they claim to represent. They just like to bully people while feeling morally righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:18 PM
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I guess you can be a SJW and believe in capitalism, but many SJWs want the government to fix all their issues with policies such as hate speech legislation, hiring quotas, and wealth redistribution. The defining characteristic of SJWs is identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:05 PM
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The person I responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 09:00 PM
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Ah, so that's why lesbian relationships work and gay relationships don't. Oh, wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:58 PM
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LOL that story is so funny. First she lies and lies and lies about the reason why she doesn't want to give blowjobs. When he sits her down and demands an answer, she has an emotional breakdown to avoid answering. He gives her time. Time she uses to make up another load of bullshit about how she got tired of giving blowjobs because her previous lover couldn't get it up unless she gave him a blowjob, and this is why she doesn't want to give him blowjobs. He accepts it, no blowjobs. Classic BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:55 PM
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Why say it if you don't mean it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:48 PM
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That's young. Very different than being slutty into your 30s and then becoming a good girl because you see the wall coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:47 PM
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Do they agree with modern feminism and feminist leaders? Or are they the "feminism = equality, so I'm for it" type of feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:38 PM
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trickle down equality That's a great one!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:36 PM
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There are short men doing great. That doesn't mean that being short works to your advantage. That said I agree that for some TRP the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:33 PM
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Acting like an asshole, as you call it, is simply the way they get what they want. From their perspective women reward assholes and punish nice guys, so the choice is forced upon them. Most TRP actually lament this. They would rather be a nice guy and get laid. The problem with this theory, is that it assumes they all have a finely honed ability to know how to be a good and useful asshole. It also assumes that they're all dealing with the same woman, to varying degrees, except most can't even de…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:55 PM
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To them, that's not a bug, it's a feature. I don't think that is true. They see it as a bug too, but they accept that they can't fix the bug and have to work with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:43 AM
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How about masculine women, like Ruby Rose?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:27 AM
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It is validating until she realises that he isn't going to commit, that is, she realises that she is getting pumped and dumped. Similarly, friendzone is validating for men, until he realises that he is in the friendzone and is never going to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 10:12 AM
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Wasn't there a thread from a woman a few days ago about men not knowing how to please her sexually, and when asked why she didn't tell them what she wants them to do she said that this would ruin it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:06 PM
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Are they? Or are they just opting out. What I know about MGTOW came from Paul Proteus who is hilarious, but may not be representative? His argument is simple and quite strong I think: Statistically, most marriages now end in divorce. With no fault divorces there isn't much you can do to prevent it. You're going to lose half your stuff in the divorce. Then he asks the question: why enter into this contract given the statistical probability that you are going to lose half your stuff down the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 10:01 PM
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The traction they are getting is not because they want to stop men from sucking cock, but because they are unhappy with large scale immigration from countries where they -- wait for it -- do want to stop men from sucking cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:22 PM
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Why not doggy style + reacharound? (with fingers or magic wand)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 08:06 PM
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One tradcon guy I've spoken to on many occasions even said that giving women orgasms is "the way to betahood". LOL! Orgasms are important. The only exception is people with an orgasm denial fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:54 PM
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I don't go after girls but others have told me they don't try with women who have a high paying career because they expect that those women would want a man with an even more high paying career. It's not that they don't like a woman with a high paying career, but that they (rightly or wrongly) expect rejection which is painful so they don't initiate. If the woman initiated they would probably respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:47 PM
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I don't think men necessarily fantasise about the sexual acts they are going to perform with the women they see. It's more like a subconscious rating system, like virtual reality glasses that project a number 1-10 above everyone's head and inject a small shot of hormones depending on the number of the person that he is looking at. Your point about guys that are too hot applies to men too. It's why many men won't even try with women who have a high paying career.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:26 PM
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You're envious of not being able to give birth O_o. I wish I could do that!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:07 PM
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Do MGTOW lobby society? I thought they are the people who considered the offer of LTR/marriage and decided that it they don't find it worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 07:01 PM
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It's all good. Just joking around <3
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:53 PM
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Sigh, you make this too easy. It's like playing chess with a child. At first it's nice to keep winning, but then you feel guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 06:38 PM
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If that was your intention you may want to link to an article that disproves rather than proves RP next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:35 PM
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You link to an article talking about trophy wives to "disprove" RP because it is an example of attractive women marrying less attractive "supportive" men, and my explaining to you that this actually falls squarely within RP theory is a shitpost xD You can't make this stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:26 PM
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That's already a little bit better, good girl. A pity that you were the one that dragged down the discussion to mudslinging levels, an invitation that I always wholeheartedly accept. Don't worry, you do get points for effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 04:14 PM
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That's why I added the uprising of the right in Europe because those things go hand in hand here. If you are right you are also anti-immigration, anti-feminist, trad-con and nationalistic. I don't think this is true. Wilders is anti-immigration and nationalistic, but not anti-feminist or trad-con.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:45 PM
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I think we can all agree on that, but the key is that in most cases the best option is to follow the gender roles and a gender neutral upbringing is not the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:34 PM
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What you are describing is idealism, not pragmatism. The pragmatic thing to do is to accept that gender roles exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:30 PM
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As I said I would not be a dictator, but I don't want to bet on the statistically unlikely possibility that they will be happier without a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:23 PM
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If that is true then yes, but I don't think it is true that defying gender roles makes kids more money or makes them feel better unless they are transgender. I think that being successful in finding a good romantic partner is a big component of lifetime happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:21 PM
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I would try to determine whether they are part of the ~0% of the population that is transgender, and if not I would gently encourage them to take on the traditional roles. This is much more about general behaviour than toy preferences. I would let them choose the toys that they want to play with, but I would not try to "correct" for the societal bias or advertisement for boy's toys / girl's toys by encouraging them to "explore all options".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:14 PM
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Try something else. This kind of attempted bullying is not very effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:02 PM
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I already agreed on trans people. As a fraction of the population they are a rounding error. It makes no sense to focus on them. You don't need to be a dictator. If you let kids choose on their own then in the vast majority of cases they will choose the toys that fit their sex. Your post asks why antifeminists oppose what feminists call "letting people choose their own identity". This is like asking why antifeminists oppose gender equality (it's literally the definition of feminism!!!). What the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:59 PM
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Sure, you can defy gender roles all you want, the point is that pretending that it's without cost or even encouraging children to do it because of an ideology is not doing those children any favours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:34 PM
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Straight men believe that about women because they get convinced that women are from venus and have infinitely complex minds and their desires are infinitely varied and infinitely difficult to understand and that women are definitely not shallow like men and they like "nice guys". In fact the message is that women are not sexual creatures at all, and that your best bet is to be good guy hubby material. Gay men would not buy this about other gay men for a second, because they know that what's hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:28 PM
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So you lose the argument, and then you double down by spouting standard TBP stereotypes and attempted insults of TRP that are completely unrelated to the point under discussion. Strong xD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:20 PM
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Kids are not adults. Kids need structure. We recognise that letting them do whatever they want is stupid in other areas, such as choosing whether or not to eat vegetables or choosing whether or not to do their homework. Raising a boy like a girl does not improve his chances of a happy life, because most women are not attracted to the men that result. It would be nice if reality was different, but alas it is not. Secondly, feminists go much further than this. A couple of days ago I watched a deba…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:58 AM
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No you didn't. I only see a long story that came straight from your imagination. No facts and no logic except that you should try to read whether the other person likes you back. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:44 AM
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Now if a Red Pill man actively works to rid himself of emotion in his life and tries to become a coldly logical “Dark Triad” fantasy creature, he is crippling his ability to read people. You have not substantiated this claim in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:56 AM
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Since I always ask about STDs this would involve lying = bye bye next.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:53 AM
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No (yes).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:52 AM
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Sure, if (1) time was used up (2) some sort of sex happened (3) the client broke the terms by trying to do something that was not agreed upon, no refund is necessary. However, if no sex whatsoever happened then at least a partial refund is in order.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:51 AM
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In a restaurant it's a bit different because you pay at the end. If I understand it correctly you pay up front for a prostitute. If you would have to pay up front at a restaurant and they hadn't started cooking the food yet, then if they throw you out you would also get your money back. Even if you were an asshole. "He was continuously crossing my boundaries and disrespecting me after 45 min" maybe not. Yes, I agree. If he wants to do something that was not agreed upon then he would have to rene…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:44 AM
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I agree that redpillers don't have empathy for feminists, but I don't agree that redpillers have no empathy for blue pill men. They just don't have that phony virtue signalling type of empathy that doesn't actually do blue pill men any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:38 AM
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Nope, even TRP says that hot women marry men for resources (time/money/etc), which of course they self report as being "supportive".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:34 AM
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Depends on the asshole behaviour. If you go to a furniture store and order furniture to be delivered and act like an asshole after paying, they still need to deliver the furniture or give you a refund. If the complaint is simply "he made me uncomfortable" I would say the same applies. If there was true asshole behaviour and a lot of time was wasted, maybe not. Also consider that in the case of prostitution the payment is more than just for time. The price is high because of the type of services …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:30 AM
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Blaming the individual for the results of the system makes little sense and is useless. It's like blaming CEOs for trying to minimise the amount of taxes their company pays within the legal limits. You can't expect a company to voluntarily donate money to governments, gotta change the rules. If you want the results of the system to be different you have to change the system, not expect individuals to behave contrary to their own interests, particularly if you only expect that of one sex. The sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:24 AM
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Eh, that is precisely what RP theory predicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:19 AM
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A refund is still appropriate if services were not rendered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:15 AM
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Sure, but it's not rocket science to negotiate which sexual acts are going to be performed for which price. This can of course be renegotiated at any point, but if one side doesn't hold up its end of the bargain then the other side doesn't have to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 02:06 AM
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Well, although the preferences of gay men and straight women are different, they are not as different as culture would have you believe. Memes about how women are not that into sex, or don't really care that much about looks, or want "nice guys", or more generally how women's preferences are soooooo varied and infinitely complex and inscrutable, all BS. A lot of that is because of misinformation from women because women are expected to present themselves as such. This is not expected of gay men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:53 AM
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Terms should be set beforehand, and if the terms are not met then the money should be refunded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 01:06 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=Casino+Royale ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 08:47 AM
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What do you expect when you reply to a comment that says that the men's rights movement is a joke with demands that I provide examples of legislation that the MRA had a hand in? That's like responding to a comment that says that the earth is round with the demand that they provide photographic evidence that the earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 01:02 AM
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You fail so hard at reading comprehension and logic that you almost made me lose faith in humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 12:56 AM
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Find me a culture that thinks that female body hair is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 12:51 AM
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Pubic hair maybe, but I don't think leg hair or facial hair indicates fertility, and it's precisely that kind of hair that is the least attractive according to the answers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:53 PM
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Body hair is an indicator of high testosterone, head hair isn't. Luscious head hair is an indicator of health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:06 PM
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I understand. Though there is a certain amount of truth to the idea that welfare replaces husbands, it of course does not apply to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:46 PM
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You seem to be very angry over things that I did not say: Men don't get any benefits Most women rely on the government as a provider Women are coddled and never have to work a day in their life because daddy government provides for them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:24 PM
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Not only lower class women get benefits from the government or arranged by law. Consider education subsidies for majors that probably won't lead to productive employment, divorce settlements, more healthcare spending on women, subsidies for all kinds of activist/nonsense activities where women are over-represented in employment, etc. If you tally up all the taxes paid then men pay more and if you tally up all the taxes spent then women receive more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:35 PM
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What I mean is that social status and wealth might just affect the attractiveness of a man. Hey if the guy is loaded I am sure some of the women back then said "Eh, he's not the most handsomest guy but it'll do." and convinced themselves that he's actually easy on the eyes. This is true. It's called the halo effect. When something or somebody has positive characteristics we tend to view their other characteristics more positively too. A basic example is the effect of eyeglasses on an attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:23 PM
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That we would be living in grass huts does not mean that women would be happy about that situation. It's the opposite: men would be less unhappy to live without the luxuries of modern life than women would be, even for basic things like toilets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:20 PM
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I only know him from Batman Begins and Inception, so I'm definitely going to watch that one. Thanks for the tip!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 09:07 PM
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Perhaps my favourite too. You can't capture his appeal in a photograph: it's also his slightly feminine and mischievous way of carrying himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:51 PM
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Gay male preferences: Zayn Malik Taylor Lautner Craig Horner Zac Efron Ben Whishaw Colton Haynes Cillian Murphy Matt Bomer Quite different than the ladies here. I don't find most of their choices particularly attractive. Would be interested to know what they think of this lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:25 PM
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And in the James Bond movie Casino Royale? He's a bit less creepy there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:52 PM
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I did not mean to imply that being repulsed by shit is a gendered issue, I was merely caricaturing the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:09 PM
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Men's rights movement is a joke because people naturally sympathise with women and the opposite with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:52 AM
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Pink tax makes it sound like there is some sort of conspiracy. Companies will set the price for maximum profit for both male and female products, and the reason why those female products are more expensive is because women are willing to pay a higher price. However, as you note, both female targeted and male targeted razors are a rip off. An old safety razor or cheap non-gendered razors cost nothing compared to gillette 50 blade razors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:30 AM
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Nothing but what it manifestly states.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:21 AM
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Sure, but that wasn't the point: evolution is in no way in contradiction with the fact that men are repulsed by things that are natural. I did not mean to imply that being repulsed by shit is a gendered issue, I was merely caricaturing the argument. There are perfectly good evolutionary reasons why men prefer less body hair: body hair is an indicator of high testosterone and an indicator of age. That women still have some body hair is because this hair has other evolutionary advantages, such as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:07 AM
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Nah it goes way beyond clothing choices, feminists these days think that women and men are identical above the neck. Some even believe that they are largely identical below the neck, e.g. that the fact that men are stronger is due to socialisation. That not everyone currently has their dream job is a truism, but I bet that if you made the plumbers nurses and the nurses plumbers then the overall happiness would be lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:04 AM
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Why do women shit yet men are repulsed by it? Checkmate evopsych. Why do peacocks grow large colorful feathers yet are less likely to survive because of it? Checkmate evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:11 PM
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Are you one of those people who believes that preference for large breasts was socially constructed by the patriarchy to keep women down?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 05:09 PM
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Do you have to wear tampons? & source on there being a special luxury tax on tampons?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:37 AM
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Nothing stops a woman from buying a male razor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 10:34 AM
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I don't doubt that bisexuals exist, it's just that the set of people who claim to be bisexual is far larger than the set of people who are bisexual. The paper you link to agrees with that and says that by doing their best they were able to find some men who were truly bisexual, but they say it remains to be seen how many men who claim to be bisexual are actually bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:32 AM
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Exercise is irrelevant if you overeat. A bag of chips cancels out 2.5 kilometer swimming and then some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:31 AM
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Yea, they both got attention but the protestors look like idiots who let themselves get trolled by the writer who is just using the outrage to draw attention to his writing and get more readers. He set the bait and they complied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 01:22 AM
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I think the conclusion in the title of your post is generally correct, but there are exceptions. Maybe the girl is holding out on sex because she wants to know that the guy doesn't just want her for sex. Similarly a man may hold out on investment because he wants to know that she is not just after his money. However, this is not the rule. If the girl was truly attractive he would spend the money if push came to shove, and if the guy was truly attractive the girl would have sex if push came to sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:52 AM
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Was very productive; he got a lot of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:47 AM
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In what way is that weird? Feminism's whole shtick these days is that gender is a social construct and hence in a more egalitarian society you should see more equal major/job choices. One of the many ways in which reality does not conform to feminism. My explanation is right there in the comment that you replied to: in a more egalitarian and free and wealthy society people choose what they actually enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:43 AM
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It's bullshit bragging about how dominant they are. Men want to be found attractive by their partners, and they want to perform well. Playing out a rape fantasy is the opposite of the first point (she acts like she doesn't want him), but they do it because of the second point (he wants to perform well and do something she finds hot). Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but in most cases the rape fantasies come from the woman. When men fantasise about a hot woman they do not play out a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:31 AM
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Yes, that's the other side of the same coin. More equality and freedom = more female nurses fewer female engineers. Feminism can't explain that. Gender disparity in unversity majors is a sign of an egalitarian and free society where people choose what they actually enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 12:13 AM
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Have you seen what kind of riots a handful of police shootings did in the US? If the army starts shooting rioters you would have that but 100x. So unless you want to install a military dictatorship that is ready to shoot rioters indiscriminately that's not going to work. Either way it's the end of western civilisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:31 PM
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Where have you read otherwise, because that's a well known fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:28 PM
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Sure, but that group is large enough to turn a country into chaos. Police from all over the country had to be brought in to quash those riots, and even then it took a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:18 PM
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Sure, but if you go from no muscles skinnyfat to some muscles and fit your attractiveness multiplies manifold. From there on the extra attractiveness you get from extra muscles is only marginal, and at some point in the bodybuilder range it even reverses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:14 PM
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Only if you don't take the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:07 PM
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That's complete BS the first guy is attractive to women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:03 PM
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That's one way to define leagues, but another sensible way is to divide people into brackets of 10% from least attractive to most attractive. In that sense women sleep with men above their league and marry men within their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:01 PM
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Airbrushed pictures of 10/10 men are all over the place too, and men don't constantly get told how pretty they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 03:53 PM
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I didn't mean to say that those riots were driven by Islam (though some of the other riots were), I meant to point out that civility is fickle and with the right underlying conditions a spark can set off a chain reaction. What happens to the atheist/muslim people who actually are integrated into Western society? It's not as simple as one side vs another. They will be dragged into the conflict whether they want to or not. When the streets are unsafe these groups will be forced to seek protection …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 03:45 PM
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Of course attractive men can be creepy. The point being made is that attractive men can go far without being seen as creepy, while unattractive men are seen as creepy for the smallest things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:26 PM
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Write something worth reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:17 PM
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Why is civil war unimaginable? We have two ideologies marrying up (Islam & Marxist-like SJWism) and the demographics are going in that direction. Things are stable now because the economies are doing OK so people have a comfortable life. Economies will implode due to having too many old people and too many on welfare. Welfare cuts will further the tension, and a big terrorist attack will be the spark, or a cop shooting a person who turned out to be not a terrorist. We've already seen large scale…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:57 PM
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Prefer in what sense? Rationally? Yeah. Sexually? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:45 PM
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Evolution is much faster than previously thought. Big changes can happen in a handful of generations in the face of a changed environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:31 PM
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Might be simpler than that: evolution selects those who are too stupid to use birth control. There is already evidence that people now are genetically stupider than people 100-200 years ago, and the only reason for IQ rise is better nutrition and education. Also, I don't think the link necessarily goes via genetics. Strongly religious people don't do birth control and have more children, and those people raise their children to be strongly religious. Social evolution probably has a bigger effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:26 PM
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That would be true if most people knew about TRP, but not even 1% do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:15 PM
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Then who should?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 11:43 PM
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You, in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:50 PM
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Why should you decide what other people get to post and read?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:36 PM
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The chance that Trump will actually insist on launching nukes at China is virtually zero. He has shown in the past that he is willing to listen to experts when he is wrong. Hillary on the other hand has a track record of destabilising the middle east, and she is very hawkish on Russia, so the chances that she'll unleash nuclear WWIII through a confrontation with Russia in Syria is actually much greater. Even if it doesn't lead to a confrontation with Russia, further destabilising the middle east…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 12:05 PM
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Of course she doesn't really believe any of it, but that doesn't mean that she won't pander to them with more shit like title 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:59 AM
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She wouldn't be more of the same, she would be worse. Compare Hillary's campaign now to Obama's campaign 8 years ago. Can you seriously say that Obama displayed the same level of corruption and was equally part of the establishment elite and displayed the same penchant for warmongering as Clinton now? Obama looked really good 8 years ago, but what you actually get is always much worse, particularly with polished politicians. Imagine what you'd actually get with Hillary. So more of the same, exce…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:48 AM
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Not sure if facebook hate against a hollywood star proves much. How many of those ugly men would truly reject Maggie Gyllenhaal when it comes down to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:35 AM
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That's because of the way people dress, act, hairstyle, tattoos, not because of how they look au naturel. There is definitely a bias toward thinking that ugly people are stupid. The image that CEO or lawyer conjures up in most people's minds is not one of a person below average attractiveness for their age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:25 AM
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Yea, I don't get generic openers. Why not put in a modicum of effort and show that you have more than three brain cells? Intelligence is attractive. There are evolutionary reasons why a good physique is attractive (means that he can protect, find food, has good genes), and intelligence is attractive for similar reasons. Certainly it's less important than physique on a dating site, but that's no reason to neglect it entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:11 AM
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I agree that the profile text is more or less irrelevant, but the pictures are not just about physical attractiveness. Here are three other things men show: A fun lifestyle (e.g. pictures in clubs, rock climbing, etc.) Social validation (particularly pictures with attractive women) Wealth (expensive clothes, car, etc.) Though I would agree that these are second to physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:00 AM
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I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:05 PM
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Do people really disagree that they're victims if the man lies about his intention to have a relationship? I think most would say that they are victims but also stupid, and they say the same thing about BB. I don't see the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:36 PM
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In order to establish victimhood you have you show suffering. If a woman is more attracted to a man because he uses TRP advice, why is she a victim? There has to be more than that before you can call it victimhood. When the OP talks about "the victims of this duallized female sexual strategy" I assume he means guys who have been cheated on, or guys who spend large amounts of resources on women who dangle the carrot of sex in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 08:09 PM
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Lol really, 3 pull ups for male soldiers? A lot of 15 year old boys who grew up climbing trees can do 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:42 PM
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Bush signed that agreement (which was stupid, and he also made other mistakes besides going in, such as removing all the higher ups from the Iraqi army -- many of whom later joined ISIS), but Obama came into power in 2009, so he bears responsibility for how the withdrawal was executed, e.g. how gigantic amounts of US weapons fell into the hands of ISIS, and how US trained Iraqi army and "rebel" troops joined ISIS. He also bears responsibility for not recognising the danger of sectarian cults and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:29 PM
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Doesn't change the fact that your comment was dishonest bullshit. And yes, going in was Bush's fault, but Obama does share the blame for the rise of ISIS. The careless way he pulled out of Iraq and his supplying of weapons to "rebels", and the fact that ISIS wasn't stopped in its infancy. The rise of ISIS in Libya was helped by Hillary. Clusterfucks everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:11 PM
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It hasn't stuck because the media is in bed with her and because people give more shits about bad language.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:02 PM
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That's not what she said at all. She says she does not like the "beliefs about the role of government put forth by the democrat party", no matter which democrat is proposing them. You're performing a weak-ass attempt to spin this as saying that she does not like anything democrats put forth for no other reason than that they're democrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 06:59 PM
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Women are attracted to dominant men because of evolution, and they like men who take charge because it's easy, no chance of being rejected if the man is doing all the initiating, don't need to make decisions, can just be a dead fish and not put in any effort during sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:17 AM
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Red pill discusses lifting and dressing and haircut because those are the parts that you can actually change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:11 AM
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TRP uses Louis' sketch as proof that all women want to be held down and raped while struggling back? The average quality of blue pill arguments is so low...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:04 AM
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Of course not all girls like BDSM, but 90%+ like something in that general direction. It also depends on how attractive you are. Take swallowing cum. A far greater percentage would swallow a really hot man's cum than a goodenoughtohavesexwith man's cum. Even the girls who were scared may be into it with the proper man and proper execution (i.e. not just going for it but easing into it, first with verbal "threats" to see if she's into it).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:50 AM
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No it's why you act instead of talking Feminists: "rape!!!" Or you ask in a very direct and sexy manner. Feminists: "intimidation => rape!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:44 AM
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http://www.xojane.com/sex/feminist-women-with-rape-fantasies http://asexywomanofacertainage.com/im-a-feminist-and-i-like-being-spanked-you-got-a-problem-with-that/ http://hijacked.com.au/am-i-a-bad-feminist-if-i-like-being-spanked-in-bed http://www.thefrisky.com/2009-06-01/first-time-for-everything-spanking/ http://mashable.com/2016/02/09/feminist-rough-sex/#pv4vJzWLziq3 http://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/a26477/what-its-really-like-to-be-a-submissive-and-a-feminist/ http://vagendam…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:51 AM
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Right, lots of people do though, but it's insane to expect that without prior communication. On the other side you have the affirmative consent people who want you to sign a contract at each step, which just leads to bad sex because most women will not tell men what they want or will even actively lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:28 AM
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Look at Cologne or Rotherham. That's rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:08 AM
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No. I support him because he's slightly less bad than the alternative. I would prefer a beta intelligent good guy for president of the USA, but there's only 2 options.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:06 AM
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Note that the person who posted this thread is not far off that example. She doesn't want to tell men what she wants because that's a turn-off. She just wants men to go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 12:02 AM
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Heard of consent classes? There's even an app for affirmative consent now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:47 PM
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Feminists are working hard to make that even more illegal than it already is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:41 PM
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Those guys don't know what women want because hardly anybody is telling the truth about it: not the women themselves nor the general culture (in fact lies are spread). Good sex is also illegal now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 11:24 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:57 AM
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That makes you a "what used to be called feminist".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:56 AM
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They do, but it's easier to get over it because of grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:26 PM
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The point isn't that women on reddit aren't normal, but that women on reddit are not a representative sample. Not every person on reddit is a nerd, but the proportion of nerds on reddit is much higher than the proportion in the general population, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 07:59 PM
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For gay men on the other hand, penis size is very important. Not primarily physically, but psychologically and visually.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:24 PM
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It's even more interesting. When a serial killer is in the news he will usually get a shitton of love letters. Ted Bundy attracted so many women that they couldn't fit in the courtroom at his trial. After that he got hundreds of love letters in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:07 PM
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Hillary's foreign policy experience alone should disqualify her instantly, and this is just one of the many problems with her. Trump has a different set of problems, primarily that he's an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:03 PM
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150 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 07:56 AM
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The primary difference with BP is that people are not all special snowflakes. Men and women's behaviour and desires follow patterns that are very consistent. This can then be elaborated. For men it is quite simple. Think of how feminists would like men to behave. The opposite behaviour is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:12 AM
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They will be soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 04:01 AM
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That would be really stupid, but evolution says that these types of men will eventually dominate the gene pool. Natural selection for being bad at birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:46 AM
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Do you think that at the limit our current trajectory is headed back towards this natural equilibrium? That takes time. The west will die out because of low birth rates before that happens. Men are going to check out of marriage, which will further reduce birth rates. Look at Japan, they're a bit ahead of the curve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:39 AM
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Sounds like TRP dating advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:36 AM
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Note the title: "6 Things a Feminist Woman Who Dates Men Should Look For on a First Date". This is the kind of man that feminists wish they would like. If a man actually acted like this their interest would evaporate quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:33 AM
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Try talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:31 AM
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Such things are always impossible to know for certain, but it had been going fine until that point. Feminists and to a lesser extent women in general (particularly higher educated ones) usually say that they want men to behave in a feminine manner, but when men listen they get disadvantaged whereas men who do the opposite win. The bad boy, sexually aggressive, stoic/mysterious, cocky, teasing, and dominant men win. Those who listen to the advice to be a good guy, to stop "harrassing" at the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:14 AM
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And they are socially punished for this? They lose status and attractiveness. Also what do you mean "constantly?" On an individual level or from the media? Media, but also on an individual level. The latter of course depends on the particular person's social context. One example. My brother's girlfriend was often telling him about her problems and insecurities (to get validation), and she told him that she wanted him to do the same so that they would have a "deeper relationship" and "equally ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:17 PM
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Yeah, sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:40 PM
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Depends on what you mean by many.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:14 PM
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Many women, perhaps most, do not find that type of man particularly attractive. It is a common misconception of men that women find the big bear type most attractive. This is not true, though some women do. Remember when grown women were fawning over 16 year old Justin Bieber?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:03 PM
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They do. It's just not a random sample (which is a unicorn anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:47 PM
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My mother is a staunch feminist and she convinced me of the blue pill quite well. She did speak some RP truth once. I had never had a girlfriend and we got talking about that in a time before I came out as gay. She said to me: "Don't worry if you can't find a girlfriend now, you will easily be able to find one when you are 35 and women get the urge to have children. You will be great for marriage because you do well in math and science, which means you'll have a good career." This was the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:40 PM
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Indeed they don't, but if that article was right and gays are gay because they are hypersexual and women don't have sex with often enough with them, then you wouldn't see these numbers. Gay men are gay because they get aroused by men, and not by women. There have also been studies where they had people watch porn and measured their sexual arousal that show the same. IIRC they even showed that most men who claim to be bisexual are almost exclusively aroused by other men. If you have any data to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:26 PM
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There have been calls for this by women who do not like that the queues in front of women's restrooms are longer. Usually they also want no urinoirs in said unisex restrooms because iiieuw, not realising that urinoirs are the precise reason why men's restrooms do not have long queues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:41 PM
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I think you are absolutely right about disapproval from people far away, but you can't discount things like fear of being seen as a disappointment by your parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:18 PM
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A fun hypothesis, but I don't think this theory holds much water. Most gay men I know don't find women attractive. The reason they are dating men isn't that men are easy and women are hard. The OkCupid study also showed that most gay men do not have significantly more sexual partners than straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:10 PM
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Agreed, but with a caveat: interpreting a study is hard. It's easy to draw wrong conclusions from good data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:59 PM
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It doesn't counter a study, but one doesn't need a study to draw reasonably accurate conclusions about human nature. Experience + logic goes a long way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 03:53 PM
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Women are constantly telling men to be sensitive and open up and show their insecurities/weaknesses, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:20 AM
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Since you don't seem to pretend to be dense, I'll elaborate. Most women no longer identify as feminists. In the UK, for example, less than 10% do, and it is declining. The fact that you think that the behaviour of the general population can be used as an argument is ridiculous. Secondly, the argument falls flat in another way. Marrying men and having their children is in no way a substitute for speaking up against the crazies that dominate the feminist discourse. Reverse that argument for a mome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:14 AM
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Damn, nobody I know would even have the courage to do that. Even in gay clubs the people who come on to me usually ask if I am gay to make sure. Was there alcohol involved, or was he just crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:54 PM
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Interesting, where was this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:32 PM
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Blue pillers definitely exist. Many people I know are blue pillers. Some even believe that there are no inherent gender differences. Just today I was arguing here with a woman who thought that you can slut shame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 09:21 PM
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Hardly ever occurs. As a gay man I have never approached another guy without first ensuring that the guy is gay, and none of my gay friends have either. According to my scientific estimation 99% of gay dates get started via the internet or in a gay bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:37 PM
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You're still arguing against a strawman there. The OP doesn't claim that there is a "concerted effort to destroy masculinity". The OP only claims that certain masculine behaviours are officially frowned upon while said behaviour is actually rewarded. You seem to think that the OP is concerned about some kind of restriction on masculinity much like putting a dangerous animal in too small a cage, so that there is no outlet for it. This is completely beside the OP's point. The OP's point is that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:12 PM
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I'm not sure you could label it as an MRA issue even in that case. Most MRAs, unlike feminists, do not think that human nature can be changed. Some may dislike human nature and consider it unfair, but it does not make much sense to consider this an activism issue if you don't think it can be changed. There are some specific MRA issues related to this, though, such as the way boys are treated in school, so in that sense it could be viewed being in MRA territory. TRP seems to be more focused on ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 06:00 PM
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Of course society does not reward people who use violence in public, that wasn't what the OP is saying. What the OP was saying is that there is a double standard where certain masculine behaviour is officially frowned upon while the same or similar behaviour is then rewarded with respect and sex. The OP gave three examples of this, I note that you have not addressed these at all, and instead chose to refute your own strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:46 PM
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First you think that you can slut shame men, then you think that the population agrees with your sexual preferences, and now you think you can insult me by calling me a pleb. Projection seems to be a common theme here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:07 PM
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The opinion that Trump is not above average attractive for his age group? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 05:01 PM
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So your point in response to the obvious fact that Trump is very attractive for his age and looks is that you didn't find him attractive? Self-obsessed much?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:58 PM
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Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:49 PM
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Of course, the guy is 70. Go back 35 years and plenty of women would be happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:43 PM
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You're equivocating. You can get away with doing it. Heck, even Bill Clinton got away with it. However, it's obvious that as a presidential candidate it's a bad idea to actually say that you can get away with it. Even so, I doubt it will have a huge effect on the actual election, which is saying a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:40 PM
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Trump is very clearly an "alpha male" as the term is used here. You may not find him attractive in the slightest, but that's because the guy is 70. To do an apples to apples comparison you have to compare him with somebody in his age group. Most women would be absolutely sexually disgusted by a beta 70 year old male feminist. Trump is doing extraordinarily well for his age. Upper middle class women having sex with roughnecks isn't a form of respect for an alpha male. It's a form of fetishism and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:34 PM
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Of course women don't want that, though in many cases that's a rational decision not an emotional one. Many women I know admitted to being sexually attracted to these types of men, but the rational fear wins over the sexual attraction. You're jumping immediately to hyper-aggressive violent types, which isn't even the point. The sites that the OP mentions are doing precisely the opposite. They are removing the last bit of assertiveness from already unassertive men while promising that this will m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:07 PM
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Could be, but farming is fairly recent in human history too. If you want to learn how sexuality works definitely don't listen to feminists or gender studies professors. You'll likely come out stupider than you went in unless you ask them about their personal preferences which will almost certainly be some kind of hot jock BDSM fetish rather than those nice male feminists that they are trying to turn all men into. In any case this conversation has been derailed into near irrelevancies just so tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:48 PM
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Your mates are right. Her boyfriend supplies the hot cock but fails to supply the things she wants/needs, so that's why she needs you. She does not leave him because she estimates that his cock is better than yours. She drops hints so that you will supply and keep supplying the help. Even if she leaves him she will leave him for somebody else, not you. She wants an upgrade, not a downgrade, and it's clear that you are the downgrade since she chose him over you. Your motivation for helping her se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:36 PM
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I bet it took a while before cavemen even figured out that ejaculation causes babies. This is something that we have to teach to kids, and as a scientific discovery it's not actually very easy to figure out since the time between the action and the result is 9 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:32 PM
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You're not very good at this, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:29 PM
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Industrial quality lambskin condoms at Walmart are not entirely equivalent to ancient Greek condoms...in any case as I pointed out this is irrelevant. Human evolution is 200,000 years. From the ancient Greeks on is only 7,000 years. Anyway, if you want to continue to project feminine sexuality and sexual standards on men, be my guest. Any conclusions you come to based on this assumption will likely be wrong, and you'll find that out soon enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:22 PM
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Yes, I agree that's the other side of the same coin. However, I don't think they are entirely equivalent because men's sex drives work a bit differently. For a man sex is an urge. If a man does not ejaculate he gets crazy. This is why nofap is a thing and why so few actually manage it and why most people who claim to succeed are lying. Particularly funny are those who admit that they are masturbating constantly, "but without ejaculation!!!", which shows the extent to which male sexuality is an u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:16 PM
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Humans have been around for 200,000 years. The ancient Greeks were 7000 years ago, and their condoms were sure as hell not reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:10 PM
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The reason is culture which is partly based on biology. Fundamentally in the time before birth control, which is the time when evolution shaped our mind and when our culture was formed, sleeping around was a very dangerous thing for women. Getting pregnant means that you need more food and you're functionally incapacitated for a few months. For men on the other hand, there is no such thing. Having access to sex with many women merely indicates that he is highly desirable. I'll let you in on a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:04 PM
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You are projecting a feminine standard on men. Men do not care one bit about being an easy lay. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Being an easy lay for man is a positive, it means that he is sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:53 PM
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You can try to denigrate them as human dildos, but when one of the feminised guilt culture males reads that they think "damn, I wish I was a human dildo". What you call human dildo is in fact genuine sexual attraction. Note that by now you are basically agreeing with my original statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:50 PM
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Guilt culture people are only attracted to shame culture people as a fetish. It's natural for women to be attracted to masculine men. Primordial attraction doesn't lie no matter how much you talk about toxic masculinity. You call it a fetish (is it still a fetish if almost everybody has it?), I call it hypocrisy. Remember, guilt culture types think man buns are hot and often view shame culture alphas as bullies in school. Man buns are only hot if the man attached to them happens to be attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:43 PM
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If you're trying to get a relationship that is different. I was talking about sex. However, the same still applies to a lesser degree to a short term relationship. Then, the guys I approach usually have a girlfriend or are just looking for a ONS (which I am not opposed to, but that isn't how you have good sex). Already quite different than being flat out rejected, which happens over and over to my straight male friends. You seem to agree here that finding a ONS would be very easy for you? Unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:37 PM
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He never complains and is a very good natured friendly guy. He is a typical engineering nerd and when he describes his life he does not seem to have any judgement on what happend. For him it's just what happened because rules are rules. Maybe he could have actually gotten a better deal and the fact that he does not stand up for himself may be one of the reasons why he got this one. For example I don't know whether it was legal for the wife to move far away with the children, as he does have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:28 PM
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Finally, you're completely underestimating how hard it is to find someone whenever you want. No, as a woman you just have a completely different perspective on this. To get any action the average man needs to put in a lot of effort and focus on girls who are much less attractive than him and still gets rejected 50 times before the one success. For most women "it's hard to find somebody to have sex with" means "not enough guys who are much more attractive than me approach me". If you go on a dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:12 PM
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You're talking about destroying your property, which is clearly not the point, and I suspect that you know this. When feminists talk about toxic masculinity they are not just talking about smashing expensive vases. They are also, or even mainly, talking about men displaying dominant and sexually aggressive behaviour, but in practice women find it attractive if attractive men do the exact same things they are upset about when unattractive men do it. This goes all the way from manspreading to goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:04 PM
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One can be open, sensitive, exciting, masculine, and sexual simultaneously without being abrasive or "toxic". Those traits are not mutually exclusive. Yes, by displaying the same behaviour while being physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:54 PM
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Belgium.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:48 PM
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I don't see how that is contradictory, can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:43 PM
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Unless there are kids involved alimony doesn't make much sense. You can take care of the household in a couple of hours per week. My neighbour is paying alimony to his ex wife for life. Then he lost his engineering job due to company restructuring which caused his second wife to leave him and now he is financially ruined and forced to work his ass off for other people. His second wife moved across the country with the kids and he moved to the same city in order to even see his kids once in a whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:31 PM
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Aren't they supposed to be the masters of empathy and stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:26 PM
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Men who succumb to the feminine re-education will have more psychological problems when they find out that this makes them sexually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:07 PM
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Not exactly true. It may be less frowned upon, but it's not a positive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:04 PM
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Because they're the ones doing the contradictory treatment? There is actually a male equivalent of this hypocrisy, but it is less prevalent: men saying that beauty exists at all sizes will rarely date big women unless they can't do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 01:03 PM
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Then that majority should be speaking up against the dominating minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:56 PM
3

It's not just about crying, it's about showing emotions in general. Crying is just the most extreme example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:49 PM
2

The division of the groups is not as you describe it. The shame people treat football players and violent men as gods, and the guilt people talk about toxic masculinity, this much is true. However, the point is that guilt people while publicly decrying toxic masculinity privately think and act the opposite. A young feminine man in the guilt group will be privately jealous of the football players. A woman in the guilt group will be more sexually attracted to the football player than the feminine …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:45 PM
1

I don't get it, can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:37 PM
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The key is what you mean by mediocre. Most men are mediocre, and most women are mediocre. The difference is that a mediocre woman is able to hook up with far more attractive man in her 20s. This sets her expectations very high. The problem is that no matter what she may think, and no matter the signals these men send to get sex, these men would never marry her. When the clock starts to tick and the baby hormones kick in she will find out that none of the men that meet her now heightened expectat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:13 PM
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Not necessarily. Consider the people who say that gender is a spectrum. Technically they are right, but practically everyone is at the sides of the spectrum and practically nobody is in the middle. Therefore in some cases a black and white description is actually more accurate than a wishy-washy "everything is grey" description.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 11:59 AM
2

How fucked up is it that THIS is the thing that bothered you most about the show...
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 11:29 AM
1

Right, status is way less important for gay men and looks are much more important as far as I know (compared to women). However for physical appearance I think gay men and women have similar tastes, although physical appearance as a whole is less important for women.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/13 09:40 PM
0

It's not just that. I'm gay so I can only speak about gay men but a lot of them are similar to women sexually. Gay men however tend to be a lot more frank about what they really want. 50% wants to be fucked by a genuine asshole, and it's not just about abundance. Being treated like shit is a turn on in itself. For a relationship this is inconvenient of course, because in your daily life it sucks to be treated like shit.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 10:23 AM
2

In Europe we call this political stance "liberal", though I am aware that in the US the term has a different meaning.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 10:06 AM
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Right, so the question is what straight women find attractive. If we consider only physical attraction. All other factors being equal, do straight women find 20 year olds on average more attractive, or 40 year olds? From the conversations I've had I think it would be the 20 year old, but this is just anecdotal, so if anyone has a scientific study on this that would be much better.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 01:48 PM
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You're using the term correctly :) At some point the younger a guy is he will stop looking like a man and start looking like a kid. Different facial structure, smaller muscles, narrow shoulders, etcetera. The men that I am most attracted to are those who look like a man not like a kid, or are at least decently on their way in the transition to a man, but who still look youthful and do not yet show signs of aging like less smooth skin or a receding hairline. For instance this guy looks great to m…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 02:43 AM
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What can I say? I find the average 30 year old guy less physically attractive than the average 22 year old. I stalked the internet for some pictures of male models. This guy is 18 or 19, or this guy the same. Many men will have a receding hairline by age 30, and their skin will be less good than that of a 22 year old. I will definitely concede that while straight men may frequently find 16 year old girls attractive, it's much more rare for a 16 year old boy to be attractive, so there is definite…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 02:10 AM
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Perhaps, but women are also attracted visually. Maybe less so than men, but there is a visual component. I'm not entirely sure if women are attracted to young men the same way that many gay men are, but you do have things like a whole bunch of grown women fawning over Justin Bieber.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/13 01:38 AM
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Maybe it's because I'm gay but the same applies to men. They are also physically hottest at 18-25. Men's looks may decrease more slowly than women, but decrease they do. That's my personal attraction, but most gay men and straight women I've talked to agree. For men there are more other aspects (e.g. status) that do improve with age though, which can easily offset the declining looks.
/r/TheRedPill23/12/13 09:30 PM
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Seriously dude? Out of all the things that could fuck up a 3 year old, you felt the need to warn the dad about hair clips? This is completely normal behavior for a 3 year old. The only thing that's going to fuck up that 3 year old, is hearing adults telling his dad that he's going to be fucked up.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/13 01:22 AM
2

It depends on the girl, but also on your technique. For squirting you need to stimulate the right glands.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/13 09:09 PM
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Most people who get rich do get rich through inheritance, marriage, or crime. Almost all male billionaires earned the riches themselves. Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/2013-01-22/aaa/jayaa
/r/TheRedPill15/06/13 10:34 PM
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It's a great idea. Debate, if it's honest, is a great way to separate the correct ideas from the incorrect ideas.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/13 12:39 AM
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That was hilarious! "I'm a traditional girl"
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 09:18 AM
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Nobody bothers looking at the math. Heterosexual sex takes at least 2 people. So it's logical that a higher number of partners on one side results in a higher number of partners on the other (the distribution is not uniform because some have more/less partners than other but the premise holds). That's the point of this sub. A large number of women is fucking a small number of men. So the argument that "for every woman who has sex with a man, a man has sex with a woman, therefore men shouldn't co…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 08:46 AM
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Those 43 were a lot hotter than that guy she's marrying.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 08:37 AM
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Of course there is. The man can decide not to become a father financially, then the woman can decide whether or not to have an abortion.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 11:02 PM
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As far as I can tell she is implying that it's something to pick and choose, not that it happens often. You know, I give advice to young women. I say “pick a partner.” If that partner is female you are in good shape because you are likely to split up things very evenly; This implication is still dead wrong of course, as if it's a bingo game. "Whoo, I picked a partner. Oh noes, it happened to be a female, why didn't anybody tell me".
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 06:23 PM
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Some guy calls her on her bullshit and she responds: Okay, I'm getting aggressively downvoted anyway (because, hey, it is not about a diversity of opinions, it is about being "right" or "wrong") Hahaha! How typical.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 05:04 PM
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Somewhere else in the thread you said: I was giving her a bit of light hearted ribbing about her choice of sunglasses and didn't let her get away with getting sympathy after the "I'm blind line" (I responded with "clearly", as a continuation of the sunglasses piss take). That's a shitty thing to do to a blind person. Teasing somebody is OK, but making fun of somebodies disability that they can't possibly do anything about isn't. That would explain her hostility.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 02:36 PM
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I still wonder if this has got her as far as being a hot female (who isn't blind) would have got her. Probably not, that's kinda obvious. If you're blind you are at a disadvantage... She didn't on the face of it seem to use her body to indicate interest or disinterest as much as I'm used to. This is also a bit hard to learn for a blind person, if she was blind her whole life. You learn a lot by imitating others. Additionally because she can't see you she doesn't immediately know if she's interes…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 02:28 PM
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None of them are that bad looking. Take the blond guy. If he spent some time in the sun he wouldn't be so pale and it would probably solve his acne. Then he needs to work out a bit and shave his head (best thing you can do if you're going bald), get rid of his eyeglasses, change his posture and dress nicely. Now you have a totally different looking person.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 02:25 PM
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You are making two mistakes: She does know she's hot She does or will know and care what you look like Maybe she doesn't have eyesight, but her friends do.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 02:17 PM
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Feminist conspiracy censored it /s
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 06:42 PM
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and that she will love me forever.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 03:23 PM
1

Sounds awesome, how can I watch Macho Like Me? I couldn't find it anywhere.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 02:21 PM
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It's only lack of tact in other cultures, in their home country it's honesty which is appreciated. Take a dutch person to an american restaurant and they'll cringe at the behavior of the waitress.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 10:00 PM
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That's true too, but just suppose that the guy goes to the gym and becomes a surgeon. What's left that's stacked against him? His 4 inch dick? Should all men with a 4 inch dick castrate themselves then? He has a perfectly average dick for an indian man for christs sake. Now lets see what he has going for him: He's fit (will be, if he does follow up with his plan to go to the gym) He's intelligent He's a doctor This dude will be quite attractive. Not all girls will like him of course, but if this…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 09:48 PM
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That is not at all what I said.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 09:21 PM
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You are simply wrong. Just like a man who has accomplished something in sports is attractive, and a man who has accomplished something in politics is attractive, a man who has accomplished acquiring a lot of money is attractive.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 09:11 PM
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You're so alpha.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 09:03 PM
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This is definitely not always true. Money does make a man genuinely more attractive, not just "i'll pretend to find you attractive to get at your money". This is especially true if the money is self earned, as it indicates that you have the kind of genes that enable you to make money. But for this to work it has to be exceptional money. Luckily for this guy, he's all set up for that.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 08:45 PM
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That's a good solution. She is happy, you are happy.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 08:37 PM
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You're only hurting yourself with that one. Do you really think she'll bat an eye? She just won't give you directions.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 08:26 PM
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Acting like you love her are things like: saying that you love her seeking affection cooking dinner for her asking her to come with you to your parents/friends etc. I phrased it in mainstream terms because this is a mainstream person new to theredpill.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 11:31 PM
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Fair enough. My view on this is that it's a terrible situation that whether or not it's rape depends on how well the guy can tell the difference between a girl who is acting like she doesn't want it and a girl who actually doesn't want it. The problem is that it's not just that one girl, a lot of girl are into this stuff. Most guys aren't, for the vast majority of guys their first reaction to somebody saying 'no' is to stop immediately. But enough encounters that fail because of that where it tu…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 10:52 PM
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Please read both articles. It's become abundantly clear that you have not. What you say contradicts what she writes all the time. For instance: But this is just one person talking about her sex life and someone who's describing consensual sex (ideal scenario!!) In her case I'm not worried about her being raped or making a false accusation because she's clearly laid out to us her situation. How can you possibly say this in light of her rape allegation? And this: But this is just one person talkin…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 10:37 PM
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Yes! I know that is the non rape case! That's the point. The real rape case is described in that article she wrote as a reaction to the reaction on reddit claiming that she was raped. You are assuming all kinds of things, like safe words, that she didn't write. Had there been a safe word, she'd have written that as a response to show that it wasn't rape, instead of writing a whole article where she doesn't even mention safe words. You are reading this only from a female perspective. Again, try t…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 10:27 PM
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Here: http://www.girlonthenet.com/2011/11/09/on-buttsex/
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 10:09 PM
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If that was the situation is would completely agree with you. But it is not. See my other reply.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 10:03 PM
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You have trouble understanding because you have the facts backwards, which is understandable because the facts are rather fucked up. It's guy A she's in a relationship with, not B. She does not say that she talked about rape fantasies with B. She is explicitly NOT consenting with guy B. Yet according to her A was rape and B wasn't.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 09:59 PM
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Stop doing things for her and start acting like you don't love her. If she leaves you, the relationship was over anyway. If she changes her behavior, good. That's the paradox of relationships. Want more attention? Give less attention. Want more love? Give less love. Want somebody to do more for you? Do less for him/her.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 09:51 PM
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If that seems clear cut to you I want to have what you're smoking. The only difference between the two cases is whether she enjoyed it or not. If there is any other difference, please point it out.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 09:47 PM
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Here's the full version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU (only a couple seconds longer, but those seconds are worth it)
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 09:23 PM
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who she'd discussed her rape fantasies with before they enacted them Where does it say that? The way she writes that pretty clearly implies that she didn't. That's the whole point. I don't see any gray area here. I don't either but the point is that many girls, including the girl who wrote that, DO. And if you don't go against her words and body language, you fail the test. Here's some relevant fun
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 09:20 PM
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I guess we're seeing the same situation completely differently. In the first situation she clearly says she didn't want sex and articulated that. She doesn't say that with that person they had enacted rape fantasies before. In fact she qualifies with, Now in a different situation with a guy I trusted and had talked about that with it would be different. Try to look at this from the perspective of the guy. In the second situation she also said she didn't want it. How is the guy supposed to know w…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 08:32 PM
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She did call it rape in another instance: As a woman who has said no and meant it, and been ignored, this is a tricky area. I was in a relationship years ago. One night, I didn’t want sex (at all, I was drunk and spinning and made it very clear), but he pinned me down, covered my mouth, forced himself on me and anally raped me. Now in a different situation with a guy I trusted and had talked about that with, it may have been a huge fucking turn-on. Now compare that to what she writes here: No ma…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 08:08 PM
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Except if she's had a drink, of course. Then you should walk out even if she says yes.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 07:51 PM
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Well, who is telling women that the should be all that? At least half of it is coming from feminists. In any case this comes back to what we discussed before: none of that is men saying that women should be X but secretly desiring women who are the opposite of X. I agree that high standards are being applied, but certainly not more so than to men. Just different standards. A man cannot show weakness, has to have a good job and provide for the family, has to pay for the dates, has to be muscular,…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 07:25 PM
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Don't worry about me, I'm set. Also, just to be clear, I support the type of feminism that promotes equal opportunities, equal pay for the same work, etc. I just don't think that anybody has to live a life they don't want to live. If a woman wants have a relationship where she has the same role as the man, fine. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom, and have partner who works for the money, fine. If a man wants to have a stay at home wife while working for the money, also fine. I don't like…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 07:02 PM
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Agreed. Since the majority of girls like a dominant man, you're basically saying "don't date (the majority of) feminists" though.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 04:18 PM
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Yea that's something I've noticed too. In a straight couple it's a bit hard to see how much they look like each other but it can be very visible in gay couples. Interesting to hear that it's confirmed by science.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 04:15 PM
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No, with the feminist woman desiring a dominant man is saying X and doing Y. Or more accurately: saying men should do X but rewarding & secretly wanting men who do Y. The nice guy is believing Z and doing Z. It's the wrong Z, but it's not hypocritical.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 03:54 PM
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Couples with a huge variety in physical attraction and you wonder why they're even together. Couples with a huge age or pay scale difference, etc. This usually goes hand in hand. Everybody knows the joke how to spot a rich guy. Anyway, overall, most people are 'normal', and the things different people are attracted to are uncannily similar.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 03:43 PM
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There isn't any irony/hypocrisy on the nice guy's part, the irony is in the whole situation around it. He's behaving exactly according to his honest beliefs and like he's told he should.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 03:40 PM
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Is the reason why bad guys attractive because people get told that they are? I don't think that's the main reason. A certain type of behavior just is attractive to the majority of girls. They weren't educated to find it attractive, it's how the world works, just like most girls like tall men. Nice guys can be sexy and longterm healthy relationship material and that's really the best combo. As long as the guy is attractive enough, sure. Otherwise a lot of those girls will get bored with the relat…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 03:23 PM
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That's true, but downvoting has never improved a discussion. It just makes people more antagonistic.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 03:09 PM
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Perhaps similar to the women must be sexy but not slutty idea? It's a bit like that but a little different. Sexy is positive and slutty is negative, so while it's not a good situation it's not a contradiction in itself. On the other hand 'equal treatment' and 'traditional treatment' are both positive, but you can't have both at the same time. The author, being a feminist, presumably doesn't find it right for a man to want a female to be a stay at home mom. But at the same time it's okay for her …
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 03:03 PM
5

People, stop downvoting somebody who is trying to have a honest discussion!
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 02:30 PM
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What's described in the post goes beyond sexual kink though: To be sure, I am a domestically-inclined woman who loves cooking, home decorating and being around children; I hope my future husband can support our family so that I can be a stay-at-home mom for a few years while my kids are young. But when I say what I want with a man is a “traditional” relationship, I really mean the masculine/feminine dynamic and not one where one person has power over the other. The older I get, the more I feel a…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 02:21 PM
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I wasn't talking about your personal life, and definitely not about what you can't or don't want to change about your husband. Just the general irony of a feminist woman desiring a dominant man.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 02:08 PM
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It's the "get your cake and eat it too" that makes it ironic. Men should be dominant exactly when it suits you, and not dominant also exactly when it suits you.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/13 02:04 PM
2

Most gay men like masculine men actually.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/13 06:00 PM
0

It's just a sexual fantasy, and it makes perfect sense. If another man is fucking your wife, you get aroused because if you fuck her right after it might be your kid instead of his. If you take this effect to the limit, and actively search for this kind of arousal, you get what's linked in the OP.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/13 07:17 PM
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Since a penis doesn't really have any upper limit but does have a lower limit (namely a length of 0 cm), I'd expect that there are more big outliers than small outliers (like a Gamma distribution). Those affect the mean but not really the median, so I expect the median to be slightly lower than the mean. It also very much depends on where you live and on your race.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 03:53 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size While results vary slightly across reputable studies, the consensus is that the mean human penis is in the range 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length with a 95% confidence interval of (10.7 cm, 19.1 cm) or, equivalently (4.23 in, 7.53 in) — that is, it is 95% certain that the true mean is at least 10.7 cm but not more than 19.1 cm.[5][6][7]
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 03:00 PM
1

Creating the bow is both the cause of and the effect of evolution. If that's a silly argument then literally every argument that is about history and could have caused us not to be having this conversation right now is silly. Including your argument about sexual selection!
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 08:56 AM
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Well yes, that's what I said, so I think we agree. Note: celibacy isn't castration. Celibacy simply means that you're single and don't have sex your whole life.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 01:18 AM
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The desire to become a great scientist isn't for the most part a conscious strategy to attract women though. Consider for example that Newton, perhaps the greatest scientist in history, was (as far as we know) celibate. Also consider somebody like Galois, who the night before he died, wrote up everything he knew about mathematics, which was a lot of truly revolutionary stuff. This couldn't have gotten him any women, since he would be dead. So he wrote that down to go into history as a great math…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/13 12:39 AM
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Evolution is quite slow. And I don't think we can change the system. Women will be attracted to what they are attracted to regardless of the system. Besides, sexual selection is far from the only reason curiosity and innovation developed. If you can make a bow and an arrow that's valuable even if women wouldn't find that attractive.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 08:04 PM
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Thanks. I do partially agree with your point about a society as a whole, but I feel like the great scientists are often (but not always) the exception to this rule. Most of the really great ones are a bit crazy in their curiosity and obsession, and comparatively less interested in investing in the normal future-dad things or being very sexually active, and rather spend time doing science/mathematics. (of course not all of them)
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 03:11 PM
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Taking women out of one generation doesn't change the biological urges of that species. That is exactly my point. Which is why I don't think this is realistic: "Equalism" will more likely result in the destruction of mankind than in the continuation of our species. My reasoning for this is women have no motivation to innovate, and if you take away a man's motivation, replace his chance to do something great with a woman, nothing but stagnation will occur. (even leaving aside that whatever effort…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 02:30 PM
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No need to lecture me about evolution, your disagreement is entirely based on not carefully reading what I wrote: Intelligence & curiosity and desire to develop science & technology may have evolved as a kind of peacock's tail to impress a partner How did you interpret this as Lamarckian evolution? It's clearly not saying that people evolved to be smart because they wanted to impress women. Perhaps after a second reading you can respond to my point: but that doesn't mean that when there are no w…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 01:55 PM
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Source: 99% of the world's inventions and discoveries in the last 5000 years. [...] Not for anything much more than survival and enjoyment. Exceptions noted. And still there is that naturally driving testesterone that would fuel the curious, but a world with only men wouldn't have much intellectual growth imo. So you're saying that great scientists and inventors were doing their thing to impress women? I rather doubt it. People like Einstein are intrinsically driven by their curiosity, not by th…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 01:39 PM
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How hypocritical. Why didn't they use an overweight male too? Because that's unattractive...
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 10:45 AM
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Size does matter for most people. I'd say more or less 30% of your physical attractiveness is determined by penis size (source: I'm gay myself, and have also talked to girls about this). Some may care more some less. People who say they don't care at all are either lying or outliers. For actual sex it may not matter much, but the idea is attractive, just like being muscular may not matter much for actual sex, but people find it attractive in itself. However: Having a fit body is more important. …
/r/TheRedPill22/05/13 12:35 AM
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