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iquestion_321/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 10:08 PM
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Thanks for the thorough response. It sounds sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 11:10 PM
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Like I said, ideas don't need genetics to be suject to selection. They are heritable through education and culture. I'm simply predicting that, in the future, people will be just as aversive to mgtow as they are to homosexuality now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 08:30 PM
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Sure you can innoculate your children against ideas. You can't completely control any person, but parenting has a lasting impact, and a child's personality is fully formed by the age of 7. On a more general note, any idea which causes a species to not breed is simply destined to be removed from the species. It's like a disease of the mind. Only the people who are immune to it will survive. It just seems like simple cause and effect to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:38 PM
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I concede the point, but genetics need not apply. All that is needed is for the changes to reproductive fitness to be heritable, and we know that ideologies are heritable through family education. The only possible outcome is one of families which innoculate their children against mgtow ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:19 PM
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Perhaps not a "movement" per se, but China's effort towards fiscal decentralization. http://econ.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTDEC/EXTRESEARCH/0,,contentMDK:21145468~menuPK:574960~pagePK:64165401~piPK:64165026~theSitePK:469382~isCURL:Y,00.html
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 06:48 PM
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Neither the infrequency of revolts nor their ideological nature is indicative of a government illegitimacy. I think you underestimate the leverage a citizenry can apply when threatened. Especially in a well armed populace like the US. Even Iceland staged a successful unarmed revolution in 2009 with under 10% of its population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 06:44 PM
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Thanks for the thorough response. I have seen signs of this kind of model in the sharing economy and some movements in China. If a more decentralized mode of government does evolve, it will certainly change the way war is waged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 06:31 PM
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Fair enough. Still, I don't think making these sorts of predictions depends on genetics. Ideologies themselves have a sort of heritability that occurs when parents pass down their beliefs to their children. Insofar as a belief or ideology can affect your reproductive fitness, we should expect their to emerge certain patterns of belief after antinatalist ones (like mgtow) have been selected against, all independent of genetics. The only reason I hesitate to predict that traditional institutions l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 06:17 PM
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The government has a monopoly on initiation of force, sure, but this is dependent upon the citizens consent. To completely ignore the will of the citizenry invites revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:57 PM
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I agree that this is the best way forward. Still, there is a growing perception that these tactics aren't working, things can flip around at any moment, and you'll find yourself face down wondering what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:50 PM
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Really? Doesn't our entire system of governance depend on an assumed social contract that we will all obey the law?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:46 PM
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Again, I hope you are right. But I feel that traditionalism is built upon a social contract that will not work if people perceive (whether correctly or not) that other people in society will not fullfill their end of the bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:39 PM
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I suspect things will become more like Japan. But what is Japan going to look like in 100 years once the herbivore men have died with no children? Certainly not the same, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:29 PM
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Perhaps you don't disagree with me, but TheChemist started this comment thread with "I think the biggest issue with this mindset is that idealogies aren't genetic." I'm just pointing out that they kind of aren't and kind of are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:23 PM
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Even if you were to clone Earth so you could give them identical environments, they would still form different cultures. I'm not saying culture can't be shaped by other factors. But genetics do shape our intelligence, our hormones, and the way we look at the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 05:07 PM
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Culture is dependent on the biology of the collective. If you clone yourself 1000 times and clone me 1000 times, and send each group to form it's own civilization, they will have different cultures based on our differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:57 PM
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I hope you are right. Still, I feel you may be underestimating the anti-traditionalist effects on the culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:50 PM
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I get what you're saying, but that's only partly true. Ideas, cultures, and worldviews are strongly influenced by biology. IQ is genetic for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:43 PM
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Part of the reason I ask is because I do look at things from an evolutionary perspective, and I try to use those ideas to inform my decisions. Not everyone holds a social darwanist position like I do, but if I'm right that morality itself is shaped by natural selection, it would be foolish of me to do anything that impedes my genes from spreading, despite my inclination towards antinatalism on moral grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 10:22 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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