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| 1 | Sex tourism is only considered wrong when it is done by men because most of society is so sexist it only ascribes agency to men.Correct. It is understandable why there is this double standard. Although from a moralistic standpoint, if no crime is being committed, both genders exploiting cheap sex should be treated the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 05:19 AM |
| 4 | Men leveraging anything for dating/sex is badThe OP is looking at things the wrong way, but he is the canary in the coal mine. Something on a macro level is happening across the western sphere and it aint good. Yes, if the basic instincts are not sufficiently fed, they will rebel and cause misery. But one must find a balance here. How far can certain men be pushed in silent misery until he has to listen to the lizard brain? At some point some men will have to start buying Toyota. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 04:45 AM |
| 4 | Men leveraging anything for dating/sex is badThere is no assumption of zero free will for women. In fact womens' choices are absolutely important here. Here it is: average women are not attracted to average men as men are attracted to women. That fact is key. For whatever reason, thats the unfortunate and proven reality. Then it is inevitable that a large portion of men are left out and have to resort to unsavoury means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/22 04:28 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are often convinced that they want sex, when what they really want is an emotionally vulnerable connection.Correct. It's basically version 2.0 of the nice guy trope and the cognitive dissonance around it. The vulnerable guy is not attractive (unless he is pretty). Reality is that women generally want a capable confident resilient guy, who is vulnerable to her in private occasionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 05:41 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are often convinced that they want sex, when what they really want is an emotionally vulnerable connection.It is not hard to know the line as your looks play a big role. Its common sense that a pretty man crying will elicit more sympathy than a fat ugly guy crying. And that an attractive guy can go harder and faster with his emotions. The same principle applies to telling jokes, a good looking person has more leeway in stretching the boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/22 05:32 AM |
| 6 | Why do women gaslight men over the significance of online dating?everywhere theres an excess of males. bars. pubs. play sports. meetup.com social events ? ever asked a speed dating organiser? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 05:11 AM |
| 10 | Why do women gaslight men over the significance of online dating?so I’m not sure what you’re arguing with me about. Your suggestion that men not rely on online dating heavily. So many men are on OLD because every option sucks for men. OLD is a shitty platform that isn’t a great stand in for other dating avenues, in part because the gender imbalance on it is so dramatic, among other things. Short of some friendship circles, for a man the gender imbalance is skewed in almost every IRL activity. Eg; bars, sports, general socials, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 01:30 AM |
| 25 | Why do women gaslight men over the significance of online dating?Most women aren’t on online dating, many of us because we found it a poor method of dating compared to “real life.” Hence the massive gender imbalances on the platforms, hence us suggesting to men not to rely on it too heavily. If men had as much options as women IRL most men wouldn't be in online dating in the first place. You are displaying the sort of cognitive unawareness that the OP is talking about. If women find OLD a poor method, imagine what its like for most men. Yet many men torture t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 11:17 PM |
| 6 | It is much harder to be a conventionally attractive man.Over many 'random walks' one can see alot of short girls dating significantly taller/tall guys. Almost never the reverse. And guess what, alot of them were asian girls with taller caucasian guys. Thanks for proving his point. Given that this mathematically means there aren't enough short girls for every short guy......once you run out of girls, who can the remaining short guys date? No one. Hence the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 10:44 AM |
| 0 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?And the moment it is a girl doing it, there is an implied element on some level of sexuality. But, again, mostly validation for that type of content. Same with men/boy idols. People like looking at pretty people, and thats what sells. There is always some implied level of sexuality being a media idol; it doesn't mean that the fans consuming this are depraved sex addicts or that the core product is sex. I mean you are clutching at straws here. The only sad thing is men are paying for something wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 10:27 PM |
| 1 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?Wrong. Validation can be beyond sex, especially for men. Firstly, onlyfans isnt just about porn. Secondly, onlyfans is really only an opener into a global industry catering to loneliness, much of it does not involve porn/sexual overtones at all. Paid dates, other streaming sites (especially asian), insta worship, and relationship approximation services that don't involve sex at all but involve monetary contributions to females. Often girls just talking and singing on a webcam to their fans. I me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 10:56 AM |
| 1 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?I maintain my position and suggest your evidence is actually evidence of my claims. When you just contradicted yourself? You agree that Onlyfans exists because men are seeking 'validation', something beyond sex, knowing that they will never get sex. And are willing to pay for it, even while porn is free. Meaning that the thing of value isn't even sexual gratification. I'd actually say those three things are major contributors to why men don't want real relationships. Far fetched cause and effect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 10:08 AM |
| 1 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?To me it sounded like you said because women are found in fewer numbers on OLD and initiate divorce more, that we as a gender care less about our relationships than men do. I don't know whether women care more or less about their relationships, once they are in one. All I know, and what is obvious, is that women care much less about getting in one, or the value of being in a relationship in general. It suspect that woman care more about their relationships, once they are in one (although the div… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 05:18 AM |
| 1 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?Have you ever talked to a woman about the ridiculous vitriol they get while on OLD? The incessant nonconsensual dick pics? The 0-effort “wanna fuck” convos that so many men think should get them laid? Men get catfished, scammed and 0-effort too. Adding insult to injury, the average male gets much fewer matches and dates than your average woman. Yet somehow men are willing to put up with it much more than women. So we do it with a more judicious attitude. Doesn’t mean we “care less” There's a mas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 03:18 AM |
| 2 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?on OLD it’s closer to 80% men to 20% women. The argument was about OLD so I’m not sure why “big cities” get brought into it 80/20 reflects the fact that men "demand" relationships more than women do, given that the supply of men and women is the same. Which is exactly the point of the OP. I can think of many that are heavily women dominated. Men might outnumber women in activities that men generally like more, like bars & sports, but that just means that you might have to seek out more women-foc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/22 01:49 AM |
| 2 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?Its pretty evident from her sweeping incorrect generalizations. Porn is free and brothels are everywhere, yet somehow Onlyfans is thriving because guys still want a connection beyond the sexual realm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 10:18 PM |
| 2 | If men want relationships with women more than men, doesn’t that mean women face little to no difficulties in dating?Men outnumber women on dating apps. Simple supply and demand in this case can apply to this situation I used to think like that (given the 5-10% male biased birth rate) until someone pointed out to me that women outnumber men in large cities. So its not the supply of men causing this. The divorce rate only shows that women are more likely to leave marriages that don’t make them happy, and there are a lot of reasons why a relationship isn’t working. And why are men not likely to leave when they'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Which renders the whole "go touch grass" and "meet people irl" advice useless. Yep, the advice is useless as young women <36 are just not there. Of those who are putting themselves out there, many are simply recent immigrants trying to make new friends and settle down (hint: dating isn't a priority for them). But middle aged women are plenty though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 02:10 PM |
| 2 | How are bigger women improving their dating game if even?Does one need a source to equate attraction to slimness? Nearly half of adults are obese, let alone overweight. Any slim woman, who would be average several decades ago, would be near the top of the dating pyramid at this rate. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-is-the-most-obese-nation-in-the-world-just-ahead-of-mexico-2017-05-19 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 07:46 AM |
| 4 | How are bigger women improving their dating game if even?They can definitely date thin women They can't. Obesity in the anglosphere is astronomical compared to asia and europe. A thin woman over 25 years old already makes her top 5% by virtue of her being slim alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 07:41 AM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Fair point, although bars will always be a sausage fest by nature. The point of the OP is that this gender disparity is across the board in any context. Even for private dinner parties/gatherings, women are less invested and more flakey. Is that also the case in Toronto? Might have something to do with the massive obesity rate. Alot of fit men in the gym and up and about (of all ages), but noticeably much less women proportionately. I guess this will sharply increase demand for young women. A fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Your strategies were once everyone's 'default' strategies, but in a country where its a sausage fest everywhere, and obesity rates off the roof, somethings got to give. Some social gatherings I've been to its almost like going to the Freemasons and the few women there must be creeped out; its nonsense. As for me personally, im not going there...yet! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Men who are unattractive, particularly short men, often end up finding a bride overseas or who is a recent working class immigrant. The other strategy is that if you're caucasian, you go for asian women. They are often indifferent/prefer white men. Meaning that in the end some poor Chinese/Indian farmer dies alone. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Is the ratio really better in real life?so women already have much more power and men the ones doing like 95% of the pursuit / grinding to become dateable You don't need to change it much. A change to a 1:1 or 0.95:1 ratio (5% less men) is enough. The problem is that its currently 1:1.05 and the 5% excess men arent dying/disabled like what nature intended. Go look at Russia/Ukraine where the situation is much less lopsided. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:13 AM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?The biggest factor being the fact that 5-10% more men are being birthed for every woman. We also take in immigrants from male dominated countries like China. This means millions of excess men competing at the margins of the dating market. This results in social gatherings of 80/20 (or worse!) instead of 50/50. Its just pathetic at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:05 AM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?If there's so much men that I can simply choose one from my friend groups, then obviously why bother? But if there's a shortage of men, then women will have to get out of their comfort zone, like men now. Its all supply and demand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:02 AM |
| 2 | Is the ratio really better in real life?It is mathematically very possible because the birth ratio of boys/girls isn't 50/50. 5-10% more men are born for every woman. This means millions of excess single men are competing around the margins of the dating market/social settings. This is why you are seeing sausage fests everywhere and why men are generally more desperate. Go to a country like Russia/Ukraine (where there is much less men) to understand that it doesn't have to be this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 02:54 AM |
| 3 | Is the ratio really better in real life?Nature made it this way for a reason and any modification to the birth rate for either gender creates major problems in society The birth ratio isn't 1:1 (or 50/50). 5-10% more men are born for every woman. Nature made it this way because historically young men/boys died at significantly higher rates than women/girls due to war, hunting, and disease. Since the baby boomer generation there has not been a major war or disease that cut down the dateable pool of men. Without this, 5-10% translates i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 02:46 AM |
| 8 | A core issue with promiscuity and poligamy is that they are not sustainable.Give me a link where this is supposedly debunked? I highly doubt the pareto distribution somehow doesn't apply to dating; while it does to the distribution of rewards to almost all other sorts of human undertakings (money, music, sports, academia, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?obviously it would be harder to get a good partner based on what the individual thinks is a good partner because you’re trying to do it within a specific timeframe. Women beyond their fertile years are finding partners. Women want companionship, regardless of children, even the ones who wanted kids but missed out. There is no timeframe for this. I shouldn't even need to spell this out. I mean, at this point you are clutching at straws. nobody said it’s not also hard for men, but that you have an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?there is definitely a timer on a woman finding her ideal situation if what she wants (like most) is to have a family, obviously. The topic was whether men or women have it harder to get a good partner. This isn't about 'ideal situations'. Changing the goalposts means you've lost that particular argument. But I'll humor you and address your issue. Ok, so what if theres a timer on a average woman getting their 'ideal situation'? You think it isn't increasingly hard for an average man to get his 'i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?a huge part of men going after younger women is fertility and women rushing to marry before 30 is the fact that it becomes much more difficult to have a child after age 30. to act as if it’s not a very big and driving force in a lot of women’s behavior in the smp/rmp is not only unrealistic but it’s also somewhat disingenuous. It is a big driving force. But it is not a timer on women finding a partner. There is no timer; woman can find a partner at any stage of their lives, no different from men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?They can, but usually they don't because they are not as interested. That's my whole point. Your original point was that women were "limited" to the men who approached them. Now you've backtracked to say they're just not interested in approaching men, so nothing to do with being "limited" at all. Thank you. If a man picks a bad mate, he can always start over. The woman's options become limited and become lower quality over time. A man's options doesn't become limited and lower quality over time?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?They are significantly less likely to remarry than their ex husbands. Its marginal, and without knowing why it doesn't prove anything. Its likely because women are proven to be better at getting their emotional needs met through their friends, compared to men. So there's less incentive to remarry, especially after middle age. To the contrary, this shows women have options to satisfy their emotional needs. Again women have it easier, not harder. I don't think you realize what a hurdle this is. An… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 12:06 PM |
| 7 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?It's not that men have no choice, they have an infinite number of women to chose from when considering who to approach, women are limited to the number of men that approach them Come on, we all know well who does the real choosing here. Even then what you say here is incorrect. Women can and have approached men. OLD has made it much easier for women as well. You say that, but what if you pick the ice cream thats poison flavored without realizing it? Men have just as high a risk of getting the po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 02:43 AM |
| 2 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?The average body count for a young man is less than a handful. The data is out there. The average guy does LTRs. As for the locker room, the average guy sometimes muses/fantasises about frequent casual sex - but in the end ordinary people are ordinary. Just like women and fifty shades of grey... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?You speak as if women cant also try again, that its the end of their life if they divorce? Give me a break its the 21st century, women remarry just like men. And if fertility is your main concern, go freeze your eggs. Hardly a convincing or relevant argument to say women are higher risk when it comes to dating anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 02:20 AM |
| 2 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?She'll land the average guy who just wants sex and nothing else. That shows your misunderstanding of reality. It is actually the top guys (that most women want) who tend towards casual sex and are less committed, because logically they are spoiled for choice. The average guy is actually incentivized to be more committed. So again, objectively women have it better simply because they can land this 'average' person even if they use the male dating strategy. I (and most people) sure as hell prefer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 02:08 AM |
| 12 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?You're forgetting men also eventually commit to someone. Did you forget that men are a part of the relationship equation now? Lkikewise, women can always flake, reject and try again too. Just like men. Men have just as much risk of investing years on a terrible mate/marriage. Carry on.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:58 AM |
| 3 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?By using such an extreme example, you inadvertently admitted that women have it much better than men. A woman who adopts the male strategy will statistically land the average guy. Which is miles and miles better than 'a crackhead homeless' person; which is what men will only get if they adopt the female strategy and don't persue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:51 AM |
| 12 | Why should men still be the ones to pursue?You don't even make sense. Having choice by definition makes it easier versus having no choice. Sure its hard to choose what's the best flavor of ice cream I want, but it sure beats someone else deciding what ice cream I'm getting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?Sure I respect your personal preferences. But I was more talking about people in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?I'm not sure why you lot are arguing over something as pervasive and proven as hypergamy. Generally, men date across and down. Generally, women date across and up. I mean surely this is not up for debate. If anything stuff like OLD and the oversupply of men there has made it worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?Sure, women, on average, will likely never be as 'horny' as men. But it doesn't change the point that if you deprive women of intimacy they will inevitably desire it much more. I recall a study where the prevalence casual sex and LTRs was indeed correlated with male/female shortages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?No, I understand. You however, don't understand Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Women are struggling to get a LTR/marriage where several boxes on the hierarchy of needs are ticked; namely sex, intimacy, love, and esteem. The works. Alot of men are struggling to get anything. Thats the difference. There's struggle and then there's struggle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?I said that I rather not have sex than bad or unsafe sex. No, you also said you don't prefer casual sex as you need trust. About bad sex....I mean this is a non-sequitur, who the hell likes bad sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?What, women can't enjoy sex too? What an outdated view. And, if you're going to only look at where it can go bad, what about bad marriages and divorces where men get sent to the cleaners or women get beaten? Sure, women value sex less, because they can get it so easily. But that goes back to my point that you'll be singing a different tune if it became scarce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | What would “society being honest with men” look like?I do agree that many young men foolishly view women in an overly idealized way, but that view is actually harmful both to women and to men. Key word here is 'overly'. With just literary hyperbole I don't know enough to judge Bottleblank's situation. The reality is that for anyone, if one is attracted to someone it is very likely they will idealise this person; this is the dopamine hit clouding ones judgement. Its built into our biology. Now you can say thats foolish; but you will be applying a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 12:51 PM |
| 5 | Do you actually receive tons of flirting, orbiting and puppying attempts by guys every day just by you going about with your daily routine, hence validating the frustration written by men online about women being utterly spoiled for choice?Actually, if intimacy was as hard to get for women as it is for men, you would be singing a different tune. You'll settle for casual sex to hold the fort just like men do. It is very basic on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. One person's dumpster is another persons treasure. Just another area where women and men live on completely different universes. Same thing about women complaining about being swarmed with 'bad' matches and 'difficulty' of panning for the good; meanwhile many men are lucky to ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | What would “society being honest with men” look like?Not really. Did you not read how he describe his view? I already quoted earlier, but I will again: I'm not saying you exaggerated his words. I'm saying that what he said is a exaggeration of reality, although the underlying point is still correct. There are no perfect women, and it’s incredibly naive and outright stupid to think any woman you want is perfect. I highly doubt that was meant to be interpreted literally, it was just hyperbole. Its no different from the principle, 'the customer is al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 03:59 AM |
| 3 | Nice guys are not mean or creeps, they are men who interact with women platonically in the hopes women will make the first moveGuys who are attractive get locked down. Forget about the other stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | What would “society being honest with men” look like?Although viewing women as "magical helpless fairies" is quite the weird exaggeration, the underlying point still rings true. What I mean is; traditional gender roles die hard despite decades of feminism. Accordingly to the data, women and men still want what they've wanted for millennia. For women; a man who is alot taller and more resources/status than them, and white. Hence, for poor old Bottleblank, what your man/grandparents told you is still true. The mistake wasn't what they told you, it w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/22 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Why do men and women get together?online dating supercharging hypergamy feminism's been around for too long to point a finger at it merciless supply of men from the 5-6% birth rate bias I'm tempted to blame porn but the rise of Onlyfans and other forms of GFE contradicts this and indicates that whatever the problem is, its tied to increasing loneliness not hypersexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 12:49 PM |
| 9 | Why do men and women get together?The number of men who have not had any intimacy in the last yr has jumped threefold in the last decade. Something is broken and this 'whining' will persist until we acknowledge and resolve what is truely and objectively a real problem across the board, not just the typical biased rants of insecure man. Telling such men to toughen up is simply a bandaid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 08:30 AM |
| 1 | It’s male projection that women will at least EVENTUALLY want to settle down with an Average Adam eventually. No relationship IS better than a bad or monotonous relationship, this cannot be stressed enough50k in Vietnam is not very much, compared to the whole population. More than 2 million veterans had a war related disability. Not sure how much of those have a severe disability but its going to be magnitudes of 50K, possibly a million men who are effectively out of the 'normal' dating market. And the population at the time was only 180 million, with only a fraction being young men. Thats more than enough to smash the male birth bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 12:45 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Statistical average don't mean jack shit when you're a man, perceived average is what mattersThey're not when the male is selling LTR but wants casual sex. This skews women's perception is that she is 'eligible' for LTR from men above her league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 11:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Statistical average don't mean jack shit when you're a man, perceived average is what mattersThe other major contributor is that everyones waistlines have exploded since decades past, except asians. This is disproportionately affecting men as finding a slim/fit woman is much harder than a fit male (asians excepted). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 11:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Statistical average don't mean jack shit when you're a man, perceived average is what mattersActually, they are competing with the perceived average because men way above their league will still match and have a night out with them; just not have an LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 10:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Statistical average don't mean jack shit when you're a man, perceived average is what mattersCorrect, but males still cop it much worse. As a 5'9" guy with low body fat, the female version of me would be top 5% while I will be 'average'. Meanwhile this is what an 'average' 5'4" 160 girl looks like: https://height-weight-chart.com/504-160.html Growing up in the 1990s my idea of "average" came of age during that time, so its game over. Waistlines have exploded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 10:51 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Statistical average don't mean jack shit when you're a man, perceived average is what mattersThey're only 'attractive' because alot of guys are desperate. This is what a 5'4" 160 girl looks like: https://height-weight-chart.com/504-160.html 5'4" 165lbs is not even 'slightly overweight', its simply overweight. BMI is misleading for girls due to higher body fat compared to men. For alot of guys whos idea of "average" came of age growing during the 1990s, its game over. Waistlines have exploded. The average weight eastern european or french girl (or a anglo girl from the 1960s) is a superm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 10:44 PM |
| 1 | It’s male projection that women will at least EVENTUALLY want to settle down with an Average Adam eventually. No relationship IS better than a bad or monotonous relationship, this cannot be stressed enoughThere is a short supply of women due to the 1.05:1 birth ratio. Thats millions of excess men at any one time. Men outnumber women in almost every co-ed social context, with OLD being the worst. Normally the 1.05:1 birth ratio doesn't cause a problem because its exactly what nature intended; a far higher male mortality rate (war and disease) culled men's numbers to get it to about 1:1. Everything, including the Spanish Flu, disproportionately hit male numbers. The problem is that Gen X/Y are the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyIndeed your position is that everyone must be lying The words of someone who seems to be detached from how real life works. This is obviously not about 'lying' and more about self awareness and multifactor correlations at play. There's always a gap between what people say they like and what they choose. Psychology 101. Otherwise how exactly can you explain the following: "Based on self-reported data, men who are high on the dark triad are successful in acquiring short-term partners (e.g., Jonaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyCheck out figure 3, showing that nice Todd outperformed jerk Todd in every conceivable sexual circumstance Proves nothing. Duh people will say that they will ding potential mates that they perceive to have dark triad traits and to be promiscuous. Who the hell willingly says they prefer a psychopath, a manwhore or prefer a face that looks like a creep/jerk? Why are you being captain obvious again? It is abundantly clear at this point you have no clue about the difference between stated preference… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyHere are the research outcomes: Dark triad personality traits are actually overall a positive for dating. Being seen as sexually desired by others will in turn make you more attractive. Promiscuity stigma, if it exists at all, is far less of a deal for men than it is for women. Know the difference between you projecting your own difficulties with women, vs actual facts from research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyKnow the difference between revealed preference and stated preference. Yes, most people would say they prefer a nice honest non-promiscuous person, personality over looks, etc. Thanks for being captain obvious. But what people say isn't what they do, because life is complex. For many women, promiscuity in men ranks low in importance (while men ding women much more) so they'll often overlook it. It will hardly dent a man with alot of other things going for him. I'm sorry that wasn't the case for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 03:45 AM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyI'm sorry, but if a bunch of disgruntled men were able to turn substantial women against you, then that simply means your status wasn't that high. Womanisers with well understood reputations effortlessly pull attractive women all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyI suspect I wish I was born in your generation :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Bumble doesn't work because women HAVE to message first and they still WANT traditional gender rolesThe better gender ratio doesn't matter for the average man when women are going to receive so many more 'likes'. In the end, what matters is the 'quality' of likes, and Hinge beats Bumble hands down here. When male attention is cheapened and less restricted, as it is on Bumble/Tinder vs Hinge, women are simply not going to like you the average dude as much; when they can always find 'likes' from many more attractive men. I'd like to see a dating app restrict to 5 likes a day and a message at lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 10:09 PM |
| 3 | Bumble doesn't work because women HAVE to message first and they still WANT traditional gender rolesEven if there was this algorithmic incentive, its not obvious nor a hard cutoff like Hinge. Let alone the fact that this will hardly convince the average thirsty dude to be picky enough that he will limit his likes to below 8 likes a day, which is the benchmark ceiling for 'male thirst' set by Hinge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyNot that I agree with the OP, but this doesn't even make sense. A high 'status' man is meant to threaten other males. Thats biology 101. As for trust; alot has been said about 'high status men' being able to attract women despite being the 'bad guy'. The dark triad is associated with better dating outcomes. Heck in popular culture, I'm sure one can think of many men who have an openly bad history, yeah still pull attractive women. Thats 'status'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female companyThe no. of partners is a novelty when the average no. of sexual partners for a large proportion of young men is like <3, and 30% of young men haven't had sex in the past year. Not saying I agree with the OP however. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:29 PM |
| 3 | Bumble doesn't work because women HAVE to message first and they still WANT traditional gender rolesHinge's limit to 8 likes a day is far more effective at limiting male thirst than the marginally 12% better ratio. Women's accounts are being spammed with likes. Compared to Hinge, Bumble simply incentivises men to 'like' as much as they can, its zero effort. No need to think of a witty message. Logically, if men can do unlimited likes, what will happen on Bumble is an even more unequal distribution of women's attention to the top men; compared to Hinge where the top men are restricted to liking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:19 PM |
| 1 | A 4/10 dude asks 100 girls out on a date. Interesting results.This was the point. Literally. No. You tried to say being tall as a man is the same as having big tits as a girl. Rubbish, when slim models with flat chests are desired and used all over the world. I also know girls like this. They aren't 6s. Except to the despeerate. They are, whether you like it or not. Heck even fat chicks (being fat means the face is also 'busted' by default) get lots of attention on apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 11:31 PM |
| 2 | A 4/10 dude asks 100 girls out on a date. Interesting results.Yep being under 6 foot means straight out rejection for a tonne of women on dating apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 11:04 PM |
| 3 | A 4/10 dude asks 100 girls out on a date. Interesting results.Incorrect, having big tits isnt the female equivalent of being tall. Thin models wouldn't even be desired if big tits were so important. No. The correct analogy is : A girl with a busted face but an slim athletic body. That will definitely a 6 in this obese society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 11:01 PM |
| 15 | A 4/10 dude asks 100 girls out on a date. Interesting results.He has a 20% success rate because hes a 6'1" asian guy (uncommon) with a camera beside him, and approaching alot of asian girls. Thats it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?Hinge is not a hookup app, Tinder is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 10:41 PM |
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